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China has agreed to buy Russian amphibious all-terrain vehicles

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China during the international exhibition of high-tech equipment and weapons "VTTV-Omsk-2013", held in early October, ordered three amphibious all-terrain vehicles on an Arktika airbag, six more air-speed boats were included in the option under the contract.


The purchase was probably carried out within the framework of strengthening the amphibious capabilities of the Navy of the People’s Liberation Army of China.

As suggested by the blog of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, we are probably talking about the amphibious all-terrain vehicle hovercraft "Arctic 3КK" developed by JSC "Commercial and Industrial Center" SibVPKneftegaz.

This airboat can carry 50 people for distances up to 1 thousand. 100 km with a cruising speed of 80 km / h. The maximum speed reaches 140 km / h over a smooth surface - water or ice.
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  1. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 19 October 2013 12: 20
    12
    Sorry, but minus, although I understand the order and jobs. Here is the article below, where we are in China 6-e in the queue ..., so hi
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 19 October 2013 12: 32
      +3
      Accordion!
      http://topwar.ru/34178-ot-kitaya-poluchen-zakaz-na-postavku-treh-vezdehodov-na-v

      ozdushnoy-podushke-arktika.html # comment-id-1556319
    2. domokl
      domokl 19 October 2013 14: 16
      10
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      but minus, although I understand the order and jobs. Here's the article below, where we have 6's next in line ... so hi

      So Russia did not order a single car ... After the end of the exhibition, and it was just more engineering, not a single Arkimka (and in the picture only the machine itself, without an additional trailer) was of no interest to anyone.
      But there were still swamps (weight 21 tons, transporting 24 in the swamp and 35 in the snow), there were modernized ferries (estimated the best in the world at the moment).
      In short, everything is as always. We have equipment and weapons at the level of the best world standards, but we do not buy ourselves, but work for export ...
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  2. roial
    roial 19 October 2013 12: 25
    34
    three amphibious all-terrain vehicles on air cushion "Arctic"


    And in a year he will release hundreds of his production.
    1. Fregate
      Fregate 19 October 2013 13: 11
      27
      PRC - Copy People's Republic.
    2. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 19 October 2013 13: 13
      +7
      Quote: roial
      And in a year he will release hundreds of his production

      This is to the very point! .. With such "friends" and "partners" as "great" China, you don't need enemies ...
      1. morpex
        morpex 19 October 2013 14: 24
        +5
        Quote: Chicot 1
        This is to the very point! .. With such "friends" and "partners" as "great" China, you don't need enemies ...

        Here, here. And here recently I read the comment, I almost crashed from the chair laughing
        Quote: Vital 33
        What about China?

        And what? Gave 337 sq. km of marshy land, and settled the dispute that has been going on between us and China since the 60's. But now the brothers are forever. Any more questions?
      2. Deniska
        Deniska 21 October 2013 14: 38
        +1
        And only friends betray :) Enemies and so enemies))
    3. Siberian
      Siberian 19 October 2013 13: 21
      +6
      China has ordered three Arctic amphibious all-terrain vehicles, six more airboats were included in the option under the contract.
      That's why they are ordered piece by piece. That would then release hundreds. In such numbers, chickens laugh. And the whales for mass production. Only repainted.
    4. alone
      alone 19 October 2013 21: 09
      +2
      Quote: roial
      And in a year he will release hundreds of his production.


      do not doubt it. Moreover, after they copy, they will offer others much lower than Russia
    5. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 20 October 2013 12: 25
      +2
      and there is nothing complicated in them, small SVPs are made by amateurs almost in the kitchen. I have a question for the author - what does he mean by "airboat", because "airboat" is not a hovercraft, tk. they have different methods of obtaining high speed - for a hovercraft - creating an air gap between the bottom of the vessel and the supporting surface, for an airboat - reducing resistance by going to planing, i.e. sliding on the surface.
  3. Metlik
    Metlik 19 October 2013 12: 25
    +4
    This airboat can carry 50 people for distances up to 1 thousand. 100 km with a cruising speed of 80 km / h. The maximum speed reaches 140 km / h over a smooth surface - water or ice.
    Excellent characteristics, it is not surprising that the Chinese decided to copy it. I wonder what kind of engines there are and what is the fuel consumption.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 19 October 2013 14: 15
      +1
      Quote: Metlik
      I wonder what kind of engines there are and what is the fuel consumption.

      Two diesel engines of 400 hp Fuel consumption at a speed of 100 km / h is not more than 68 liters / hour.
  4. sashka
    sashka 19 October 2013 12: 36
    0
    It doesn’t matter who agreed with whom .. Do we have them? ..
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 19 October 2013 13: 53
      +7
      Quote: Sasha
      It doesn’t matter who agreed with whom .. Do we have them? ..

      There is. Once I sit on our reservoir (Beloyarsk reservoir) in winter. I freeze the fish. I hear a howl from behind. You never know what howls there. Maybe the plane crashes or something ... But more and more. And I feel approaching me. Turned around and almost .... Here's a similar habazin to me. All in the coloring of the Ministry of Emergencies. She got up. 2 men jumped out from there. Come over. They asked "Biting?", Asked for a smoke, thanked and rushed away ... They left me bewildered.
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 19 October 2013 14: 16
        +3
        Quote: retired
        I'm freezing fish. I hear some kind of howl from behind. Who knows howls there. Maybe the plane crashes or something ...

        Steel nerves however !!!
      2. domokl
        domokl 19 October 2013 14: 21
        +2
        Quote: retired
        . Here is such a similar cabin to me taxis. All painted by the Ministry of Emergencies. I got up.

        Alas, it was a completely different cabin lol Much less. Neither in the Ministry of Emergencies, nor in the Ministry of Defense there are any such machines. They were developed not for the army or the Ministry of Emergencies, but for ordinary gas workers and oil workers. They ride in pieces.
      3. nazgul-ishe
        nazgul-ishe 20 October 2013 19: 15
        0
        So probably not enough and far away on foot.
  5. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 19 October 2013 12: 39
    +2
    It is not clear why ours are not buying. You can carry people to them in winter and summer and to the ice drift. There are two of these in the leshoz
  6. go
    go 19 October 2013 12: 42
    10
    I sometimes really amazed at the fools in Russia who do such things to the detriment of their own country. After these 3 pieces, they rivet themselves and will chase them across Siberia ... someone should block such transactions. If you sell, then 3000 pieces by yourself and close each node with potentia separately prescribing in the contract that you will have to pay seriously for copying ...
    1. zennon
      zennon 19 October 2013 14: 03
      +1
      I sometimes really marvel at the fools in the Russian Federation who do such things to the detriment of their own country .... someone should block such transactions.

      And I do not get tired of wondering at your stupidity! A child in a nursery group of a kindergarten understands that bureaucrats receive solid kickbacks from such transactions to increase the welfare of their loved ones. Who will cut chicken that lays golden eggs? You are simple in geyropa like laundry soap .. .
      1. domokl
        domokl 19 October 2013 14: 26
        +2
        Quote: zennon
        It is clear to the child of the nursery group of the kindergarten that the bureaucrats receive substantial kickbacks from such transactions in order to increase the welfare of their loved ones.

        And then the officials? The car doesn’t belong to officials side by side. There was no GOZ for them either. The departmental design bureau ordered the department to make the car. And since you need to earn money, we found a buyer.
        So your comment is completely off topic. This time.
    2. sak1969
      sak1969 19 October 2013 17: 45
      0
      Quote: go
      I sometimes really amazed at the fools in Russia who do such things to the detriment of their own country. After these 3 pieces, they rivet themselves and will chase them across Siberia ... someone should block such transactions. If you sell, then 3000 pieces by yourself and close each node with potentia separately prescribing in the contract that you will have to pay seriously for copying ...

      There is no silver lining.
      Are you sure that the car is without flaws.
      Chinas and so on would rivet something like that. And so looking at the Chinese and ours will begin the purchase of more advanced equipment.
      I’ll probably agree about patenting ...

      Ukraine has already handed over to China the largest hovercraft in the world, and we are only small, and we are only going to ...

      And we will not surrender Siberia to the Chinese!

      I recall V.I. Ulyanov: The bourgeois themselves will sell us a rope on which we hang them.
      (Russia is now bourgeois.)
  7. Sergeant
    Sergeant 19 October 2013 12: 43
    +1
    Actually ... it's a "repeat".
    There was an article recently about this "great" deal.

    http://topwar.ru/34178-ot-kitaya-poluchen-zakaz-na-postavku-treh-vezdehodov-na-v
    ozdushnoy-podushke-arktika.html

    Why repeat and "race" these airboats in a circle.
  8. Lech from our city
    Lech from our city 19 October 2013 12: 45
    +6
    The Chinese are in a hurry in the ARCTIC, and you can only copy equipment for work in these latitudes from RUSSIA.
    In general, there’s nothing new to buy a small batch for study, and then it’s up to the copyists.
  9. AVV
    AVV 19 October 2013 12: 46
    +3
    They will build it for themselves, and sell to China in small batches, it makes no sense, they steal !!!
  10. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 19 October 2013 12: 47
    +1
    Such an article already seemed to be here .. bully
    1. alone
      alone 19 October 2013 21: 11
      +1
      not like, but it was definitely. and the comments are almost the same with that topic))
  11. waisson
    waisson 19 October 2013 13: 04
    +1
    again the tops for itself and the competitors roots (this is about the turnip) again new developments for themselves in the last turn
  12. Brummbar
    Brummbar 19 October 2013 13: 18
    +1
    After a couple of years, stamped copies and will trade themselves.
  13. Migari
    Migari 19 October 2013 13: 29
    +2
    Well, a new product will appear soon in the export line of China.
  14. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 19 October 2013 13: 40
    +4
    Russia needs to apply a tough international system to protect intellectual property from copying. After all, Chinese design thought only works on copying Russian models of military equipment. Even to C-300 already reached. It is necessary to stop this chaos of the Chinese.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 20 October 2013 04: 43
      0
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      It is necessary to stop this chaos of the Chinese.

      Only if "poplars" in Beijing, Shanghai, well, there are a dozen smaller cities. In an amicable way you cannot persuade them to stop. The Americans tried many times, and through the Chinese courts (well, naive - who expects that the Chinese court will punish a Chinese company at the request of a foreign one?), And through the WTO - zero effect.
  15. pahom54
    pahom54 19 October 2013 13: 48
    +3
    Something too often lately mentioned is China, in particular its arms purchases. Note that all purchases are almost single copies, and indeed for copying.
    On the one hand, it is necessary to trade with China and maintain friendly relations ... And on the other hand, some types of weapons or equipment are not only almost absent from our army (or are present in small numbers), but are also fully adapted to operations and exploitation on the territory of Russia, in particular - Siberia, the Far East, the North ... And God forbid there will be an armed conflict, so our copied equipment will act against us in the off-road territories, and our troops will not be able to quickly deploy in the absence of roads and crossings.
    Trade by trade, but some types of equipment should not be sold to either "friends" or "opponents". In this case, "Arctic" is safe to sell to Africa, even if they taxied over the sands-swamps-rivers without bridges.
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 19 October 2013 13: 51
    0
    I would sell them 200 pieces less does not make sense, anyway, in a couple of months copies will appear under the name Song-pong
  17. Yura
    Yura 19 October 2013 13: 52
    +2
    And I, in principle, do not mind that they would buy these devices, in the 60s, 70s, 80s, small hovercraft were made by us in the sheds and garages, so China, in principle, is not difficult to develop and produce similar devices for the same couple of years what they are buying now. There are reasons why they buy them, so let them buy. Some money to earn for our manufacturer is also not bad.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 19 October 2013 14: 21
      +2
      Quote: Jura
      And I, in principle, do not mind that they would buy these devices, in the 60s, 70s, 80s, small hovercraft were made by us in the sheds and garages, so China, in principle, is not difficult to develop and produce similar devices for the same couple of years what they are buying now. There are reasons why they buy them, so let them buy. Some money to earn for our manufacturer is also not bad.

      Everything is so, they already have Bison, just a little new technology for creating a pillow (rather a skirt design) + retractable landing gear has been applied in the Arctic. This is what our inventive friends are interested in.
      1. Yura
        Yura 19 October 2013 17: 07
        +1
        Quote: lelikas
        they already have Bison, just a little new technology for creating a pillow (rather a skirt design) + retractable landing gear is applied in the Arctic. This is what our inventive friends are interested in.

        Here, here I am about that, thank you, for the idea was expressed even more precisely.
  18. major071
    major071 19 October 2013 14: 05
    +6
    We have already discussed this topic. Repeat We follow the path of China - we begin to copy articles.
  19. Nayhas
    Nayhas 19 October 2013 14: 06
    0
    Here it is worth considering why they need such vehicles? China has no places where it would be justified to use it, because the hovercraft is not called the Arctic for nothing, it means it is designed to work in the extreme north.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 19 October 2013 14: 09
      +1
      It can be used wherever there is water, snow, sand and just a flat place.
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 19 October 2013 19: 25
        0
        Quote: lelikas
        It can be used wherever there is water, snow, sand and just a flat place.

        Of course, but only in contrast to similar units can it be used at extremely low temperatures. Or do you think the ambient temperature is not important?
  20. Alikovo
    Alikovo 19 October 2013 14: 07
    0
    It amazes me how the Chinese created a compass and gunpowder.
    1. artist-mamluk
      artist-mamluk 19 October 2013 14: 15
      +4
      The Chinese have long bought one compass and a half a kilo from us.
  21. Siberian
    Siberian 19 October 2013 14: 12
    0
    Now I climbed in a search engine, we already have "Arctic" in service and in civilian life. The performance characteristics of the "Arctic" are cool, they come in different modifications. Who is not too lazy to look.
  22. Fotoceva62
    Fotoceva62 19 October 2013 14: 14
    +1
    There is nothing exclusive in this technique. If we don’t sell it to the Chinese, they themselves will only spend more money on development, and our company will be able to develop and develop something new with these funds. They will not be able to copy this product, but it most likely will not tantamount to a model since they have no schools and, accordingly, experience.
  23. Vlad_Mir
    Vlad_Mir 19 October 2013 15: 00
    0
    Good stuff. But in the Russian army there are such, interesting ?!
  24. Savva30
    Savva30 19 October 2013 17: 29
    +2
    Recently, power has been striking with its brainless moves ... neither honor, dignity, nor devotion to the Fatherland
  25. Air55
    Air55 19 October 2013 17: 38
    +1
    I agree with the authors of the comments about copying from three samples ... only they were not wrapped in the drawings ...
  26. lotar
    lotar 19 October 2013 18: 10
    0
    Yes, whatever you may say, the Chinese are great, you can only be glad for their power. There is hope that ours are not burdocks, but they came up with something like the old equipment being given into the hands of our potential enemies, and they themselves, in turn, purchase new generation equipment.
  27. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 19 October 2013 19: 59
    0
    The Chinese have gathered in the Arctic or what?
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 20 October 2013 04: 47
      0
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      The Chinese have gathered in the Arctic or what?
      And what, someone doubts this?
  28. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 20 October 2013 07: 37
    0
    China has agreed to buy Russian amphibious all-terrain vehicles

    This means that China will soon enter the WORLD market with a new "product" of its own ... From this country it is necessary, when selling something, at the state level to draw up an "oath" that they will not appear on the World market, and in China itself CLONES of these products, and in case of violation of the "oath" - fine!
  29. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 20 October 2013 11: 31
    0
    Serdyukova with Chubais would have been cloned by the Chinese (although we would have given them away and given some more money ... if you could have kept Medvedev away in the appendage Dim Xiao pin ...)))
  30. PValery53
    PValery53 20 October 2013 13: 42
    0
    And for what reason are our "businessmen" selling 3 pieces, knowing 100% that they will be copied to the detriment of Russia's interests? - If only to "cut down" fast "grandmothers"? - What wretchedness! - Then it can go out sideways. - They do not want to see beyond their nose ... They betray, however ...
  31. Chuvash
    Chuvash 20 October 2013 16: 27
    0
    Sites may not be profitable to expand the production of these amphibians, it is easier to buy a finished product. it is hoped that it will be so winked
  32. Omskgasmyas
    Omskgasmyas 20 October 2013 17: 33
    0
    These all-terrain vehicles offer at exhibitions for several years, do not take. The number of built - fingers enough to count them. Oilmen took a few pieces to the North, and that’s it. The Chinese are now selling them in despair.
    Amendment: An all-terrain vehicle takes either 3 tons of cargo, or 25 passengers and 0,5 tons of cargo. 50 passengers per 60 kg? Only the Chinese will fit, and then the small ones, according to 2 for one chair.
  33. Patriot_1
    Patriot_1 20 October 2013 22: 04
    0
    Again clones, and the clone will be a fiction as always .... However, they learn