Biryulevo Pogromnoe

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Outskirts of Moscow illegally opposed the migrants. Yesterday in Moscow, the so-called people's gathering in memory of the 25-year-old Egor Shcherbakov killed a few days ago ended with the most widespread unrest in the past few years.

The instigators were the nationalists, who, stating that the killer of the young man was a "man of Caucasian appearance", called for the pogroms of migrants. West Biryulyovo, where the confrontation between the police and right-wing radicals unfolded, by Sunday evening more resembled a war zone.

In the city, the Vulkan-5 plan was announced, which was last introduced after the terrorist attacks in the subway, and Interior Minister Vladimir Kolokoltsev demanded that Shcherbakov’s killer and instigators of the riots be found, threatening to dismiss the leadership of the metropolitan police.

The first national gathering of nationalists and residents of the area Biryulyovo West conducted "hot pursuit" - a day after the murder of Yegor Shcherbakov. Operatives told "Kommersant" how it happened.

On the night of Friday, at about two o'clock, 25-year-old Yegor Shcherbakov was returning home with a girl. Near the house entrance in Vostryakovskiy passage, 7 (Mr. Shcherbakov lived there) an unknown person approached them and, according to the investigators, began to insult the girl. Between young people began a verbal skirmish, which quickly turned into a skirmish.

First, the alleged killer, pushing Yegor Shcherbakov away, hid behind a parked car, and when he rushed after him, he hit him with a knife. As the investigators say, the blow was struck with a folding knife and fell between the ribs in the back. Yegor Shcherbakov died on the spot, before the ambulance arrived, and an unknown person disappeared from the scene of the crime.

The killer, they say in the police, was "a man of Caucasian appearance." Already on Friday, his photo taken by surveillance cameras was published in all nationalist communities on social networks. And in 22: 00, about a hundred local residents came to the scene of the murder of Yegor Shcherbakov to demand an immediate investigation from the authorities. After talking with the representatives of the police and the local government, they quickly dispersed, but that same night a new people's gathering was announced.

“The start time in 16: October 00 13 near the scene of the murder of Yegor Shcherbakov. Those who are from other areas - to get to the place carefully, so as not to be intercepted on the road by lawlessness by the police. When questioning all the policemen to answer that they are going to meet with their acquaintances, ”such instructions appeared in most of the specialized communities of the Vkontakte social network on Sunday night.

Exactly to 16: 00 on Vostryakovsky passage began to gather local residents and young people, like football fans. They did not have any political symbols, flags and posters on their hands. It all started peacefully: one of the leaders of the “Russians” movement, Alexander Belov (Potkin), entered the center of the crowd with the head of the local government, Viktor Lehavin, and the official said that youth squads would be created in Biryulyovo. The crowd responded to complaints about the "domination of migrants" and the local fruit and vegetable base, which allegedly became the center of the spread of "non-resident criminals."

The participants of the meeting got tired of listening to politics rather quickly, and they decided to go to the shopping center "Turquoise", located in the neighboring Bulatnikovskaya street. In the crowd, someone said that it was there that migrants work. “Where do you let the crowd go?” They have already begun to smash cars! ”Shouted Mr. Potkin at the head of the council, watching the heated youth gaze.

Around 20, people broke into the lobby of the mall, smashing windows and throwing flares. A fire started. In the clouds of smoke, it was clear how the staff of the shopping center and the sellers were trying to escape through the back door. At the same time, at about 40, riot police officers at first simply watched what was happening and only after 20 minutes did they decide to push the crowd back from the Turquoise. Started the first detention. There were seven people in the paddy wagons, but they failed to take them to the ATS: the crowd, chanting "Release" and "Russia for the Russians!", Was surrounded by a police car trying to drive along Bulatnikovskaya Street. As a result, Avtozak returned to the shopping center and several detainees left it. Crashed into small groups, young people discussed the perspectives of “going crazy on the area” and offered each other “sharpen knives”.

The crowd greeted the nationalists with applause. Right-wing radicals crowded for another half an hour without any goal, after which, following shouts from the crowd “To the base!”, They moved towards Vostryakovsky passage, where the vegetable base is located. The nationalists smiled and planned their evening. “There is a chock in the area most of all, you can have fun,” the correspondent of “Kommersant” heard conversations in the crowd.

In the column, in order to “just see what the base would have,” many married couples went with their children. Along the way, right-wing radicals warm up: they turned over bins, garbage cans, tore road signs out of the asphalt and threw empty bottles at policemen. “We’ve got it, let them go to the village,” an elderly woman to her companion argued the need for references and deportations.

The riot police several times tried unsuccessfully to block the movement of the crowd, but every time people walked around the living chain through the courtyards. Not everyone was able to reach the vegetable base: some of the nationalists decided to go to the destination bypass, but in the end they were cut off by the riot police. Those who arrived quickly knocked out the gates of the vegetable base and searched the territory of the complex in search of visitors. They could not find anyone: the vegetable warehouse was empty. Turning over several soda fountains and not finding what they were looking for, the nationalists retired.

At this time, around 800, people tried unsuccessfully to get through to the vegetable depot from the Podolsk Cadets street. The performance of the nationalists in terms of their scale was more like the “Russian march” or the festivities in honor of the victory of the national hockey team. The eight-lane carriageway was completely filled with people, sometimes frankly drunk, who shouted the traditional: “Russia for the Russians, Moscow for the Muscovites”; over the crowd at the same time waving Russian flags.

Accidental visitors at the epicenter from the Caucasian republics or Central Asian countries hid in the bushes, but not everyone was able to leave.

They were beaten in groups, while police officers standing nearby reluctantly drove them away from the victim. Closer to 20: 00, on the Podolsk Cadets Street, the impressive forces of the fighters with their shields were pulled together, and the crowd began to thin.

Nationalists broke into groups and scattered around the courtyards in search of visitors. One of these groups reached the Biryulyovo-Tovarnaya railway platform, where she smashed the collapse with watermelons and turned over the Zhiguli standing nearby.

The fact that in Moscow an extraordinary state of emergency occurred, is indicated by the fact that by this time the “Vulcan-5” plan had been introduced in the capital. The last time such operational activities were held three years ago, after the terrorist attacks in the Moscow metro (then 40 people died). The plan is introduced, if necessary, the detention of highly dangerous armed criminals, allows for the detention to resort to the most stringent measures. At the same time, Interior Minister Vladimir Kolokoltsev declared an alarm to the entire staff of the Moscow police. This measure implies the immediate arrival of the service, even those who are on vacation. Until the alarm is canceled, they serve around the clock.

The police department said that the riots in Biryulyovo were provoked not by local residents, but by mob riders. These are young people, about 350 – 400 people, who, as the police say, were tricked through social networks, saying that “the chocks completely let themselves go, and at night people were afraid to go to the streets”.

However, the efforts of the authorities did not calm down the aggressive crowd. At the very beginning of Podolsk Street, motorists were met by police cordons — patrol cars and trucks, so it was impossible to drive. On practically deserted streets only occasionally buses passed and cruised small groups of young people. Despite the abundance of riot police and other police units, the young people calmly met the need two steps from the police. Practically at each large outlet there was one or two policemen with riot policemen. The outfits of policemen in helmets passed through the yards of residential houses, checking documents from young people.

Late in the evening, the square in front of the Turquoise shopping center became the center of action. It was more like a place of a recent battle: smoke was pouring out of a building with broken shop windows, and a police helicopter circled above it in the night sky. About several hundred young people returned from time to time, who periodically blocked the roadway. Finally, a police truck appeared on the square. Bottles flew into the fighters jumping out. The police severely pushed the most active attackers to the playground and took the ring. However, comrades came to help the detainees. Here on the square began to appear all the new police cars that filled the entire territory in front of "Biryuza".

This was also called special vehicle "Tiger". Police officers began pinpoint detentions. According to the observations of Kommersant correspondents, among those people who still remained on the square, there were a lot of local residents, including children and dogs.

According to police, riot police "acted tough, but within the law." A criminal case was initiated against the detainees under art. 213 "Hooliganism", which, most likely, will be supplemented by Art. 318 "The use of violence against the authorities".

Representatives of national diasporas immediately responded to the unrest. The head of the Federation of Migrants of Russia, Muhammad Amin, appealed to them not to leave home. “There may be attacks in different parts of Moscow. Nationalists are very aggressive, ”he told Interfax. According to Mr. Amin, it is better for migrants and foreigners in general “not to walk and not to visit public places”.

Judging by the actions of the police, the authorities really expected the continuation of large-scale riots already in the city center. Police around the perimeter cordoned off Manezh Square. Several hundred riot police in full combat gear did not allow passers-by to go there. Near the Historical Museum are located a half dozen covered awning police trucks with soldiers. Later, Red Square and Alexander Garden were taken under similar protection.

During an emergency meeting at the Ministry of Internal Affairs held late Sunday evening with the participation of the head of the Moscow police Anatoly Yakunin, Minister Vladimir Kolokoltsev threatened that if the killer and instigators of the riots in Biryulyovo were not established and arrested in the near future, "other people will head the police units."

According to the Ministry, about 100 people were checked for involvement in the murder and "large-scale measures were carried out to identify and search for the suspect."

Biryulevo Pogromnoe
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  1. +122
    14 October 2013 08: 08
    The outskirts of Moscow illegally opposed migrants.
    If the government doesn’t stop moving away from resolving the long-overdue issue, it may soon become ILLEGAL ...
    1. +67
      14 October 2013 08: 12
      You can’t even imagine what’s going on here. smile All for the forceful solution of the issue, up to the toughest, there is still not a lot of oil and all ....
      1. -7
        14 October 2013 08: 50
        Quote: Marrying
        All for the forceful solution of the issue, up to the toughest, there is still not a lot of oil and all ....

        Not all. It’s a little that you went too far. Biryulyovo has always been and is a hole. Even Kopotnya against Biryulev is a center. There has always been a kingdom of migrants. And not only from Central Asia and the Caucasus. And there’s no need to talk about the fruitful base and Pokrovsky market. .
        It seems to me that the outbreak of anger was caused precisely by the fact that over the past 10 years they have set up a bunch of new houses where Muscovites moved from areas less populated by migrants (thanks to Luzhkov, he broke the five-story slums) So the clashes began.
        1. +81
          14 October 2013 09: 03
          Quote: domokl
          .Biryulyovo always was and is a hole .. There has always been a kingdom of migrants.


          So what now to evict Russians from there and build an aul?

          Quote: domokl
          It seems to me that the outbreak of anger was caused precisely by the fact that over the past 10 years a bunch of new houses have been set up there


          But it seems to me that the residents of Moscow need to be provided with work, and not hell knows visitors
          1. +31
            14 October 2013 09: 08
            "Oppositionist" I. Yashin posted a photo of "nationalist pogromists" in Tweet with comments like "Where the police are looking. Keep the fascists!" Here's a radish.
            1. avt
              +10
              14 October 2013 10: 36
              Quote: fzr1000
              "Oppositionist" I. Yashin posted a photo of "nationalist pogromists" in Tweet with comments like "Where the police are looking. Keep the fascists!" Here's a radish.

              Do not offend a good spring vegetable. smile
              Quote: domokl
              And what about the village? The Russians lived and live in Byurilevo. But there was never any order there. By the way, Major Yevsyukov, at one time he taxied the police department in Biryulyovo too ... That's it, note ...

              And the friendship of his dad, who ensured his career take-off, after an explosion in Kashirka, in a district subordinate to him, flew up to Luzhkov in the Central Internal Affairs Directorate. Well, not 37 years old. a piece of black cash wholesale with subsequent retail gives.
              Quote: domokl
              There is no more idiotic demographic situation than anywhere else in Russia. Even in China, 20% of the population of small Russia (two cubits on the map) lives in Moscow and the Moscow region. There are as many ministry students ...

              Yes, they flow from Moscow to the Oblast and vice versa. The same gadyushniki in the oblast are a dime a dozen near the ring road, in Mytishchi, for example, in general, “harlem” is not killed. Moscow by traders and their “business centers” were inflated to disgrace. Cherkizon was removed, stalls from bus stops - you will not believe it, it became quiet, almost like before perestroika.
              1. -3
                14 October 2013 11: 50
                Of course, this is all bad, but it seems to us that we have enemies and a terrible one here who are very scolding and who want, firstly, to divert the blow from themselves by casting a shadow on the wattle fence, that is, on migrants, and secondly, to help tear apart Russia on national soil and thereby destroy it!
                1. goldfinger
                  +5
                  14 October 2013 16: 27
                  Quote: azkolt
                  Of course, this is all bad, but it seems to us that we have enemies and a terrible one here who are very scolding and who want, firstly, to divert the blow from themselves by casting a shadow on the wattle fence, that is, on migrants, and secondly, to help tear apart Russia on national soil and thereby destroy it!

                  When the warehouse is robbed, it is set on fire.
                  To set fire to a stolen Russia and topple over a hill, where they have families, money and real estate, that’s the goal of the Kremlin team.
                  The Russians are not looking for enemies there.
                  1. -11
                    14 October 2013 16: 38
                    That Belarusian for the fate of Russia cares. Or a normal analysor?
                    1. goldfinger
                      +5
                      14 October 2013 19: 47
                      From Minsk. To paraphrase Roosevelt, we can say "When Russia sneezes, Belarus has pneumonia." (About the USA and Mexico). Whether you like it or not, we are allies. With an overabundance of bandits and "gaster" you, according to the "law of communicating vessels", they will flow to us. It is better to fight this together. Although you have a lot, for us it is not considered "It is good", the main thing is total corruption.
                      ВThat Belarusian for the fate of Russia cares. Or a normal analysor? Cit.
                      1. Dober
                        +4
                        14 October 2013 22: 05
                        Quote: goldfinger
                        With an overabundance of bandits and "gaster" you, according to the "law of communicating vessels", they will flow to us.

                        In this case, this law will not work. And the "Law of Entropy" will work, according to which "something always flows to where it is best for him." Ie, CONDITIONS ARE CREATED. Who / what? First (and only) power !!! The often talked about "market conditions" are also subject to the laws issued by the authorities.

                        Belarusians, as we see, the authorities are NOT INTERESTED in the presence of hordes ostarbeiters (I hate the word - "Gastarbeiter". Gast (German) - GUEST. And the same Turks for the Germans are NOT GUEST !!!), therefore, with Lukashenka, you will not have "biryulyovo".
                        Quote: goldfinger
                        It’s better to fight this together.

                        In order not to "fight", it is better not to allow. I am glad that yours understand this, but in Russia, the "lessons of Europe" by no means fit into misinterpretations. I'm talking about power ...
                      2. goldfinger
                        +7
                        14 October 2013 23: 21
                        Dear Dober! I am completely satisfied with you, but did not want to "show off" the situation with migrants here. After all, traders in the markets are not all Belarusians either. But, I ask you to believe me, I do not remember a single, I emphasize, not a single case in recent years, that there were problems in this field. There was a fight in the car market in the spring with an injury, there were gypsies from Russia, and Caucasians, also Russian. They did not think weak. Someone is sitting. The order has been restored "zhestachai", as Father says. And it is true. There is no ethnic crime. Maybe, on the sly, they beat each other, but that's their business. As for migrants from Belarus to you, to put it mildly, it is wrong. No one travels with their families, they go to work, seasonally, and not so massively. Mostly, versatile finishers, the mansions of your finishing rich. And that's great. The country needs currency. If the Russians themselves don't want to work, or don't know how? Vocational education, unlike us, was ruined. And the fact that your nouveau riche are massively buying housing in Minsk and other cities is already a whole problem. And their parents are sent here to retire. We know this too. Russians, Slavs from Central Asia are also accepted, but not a gopot, but specialists. 36 came to us for permanent residence last year. Not so bad with us in this matter. And most importantly, the solution to all of Russia's current problems is "clean hands."
                        Bye. Good luck.
                      3. Dober
                        +2
                        15 October 2013 00: 07
                        Yura. We can talk in PM. If there is a desire, only half of the above does not apply to me, although I agree with almost everything.
                        For almost 11 years I have not lived (permanently) in Russia. But every year I visit twice.
                        And I want to say that in Russia hunting is for permanent residence, but so far THIS AUTHORITY will not go there. And to Belarus .... what Yes, even in a month. But I am sure that there will not be such conditions, to which I am accustomed, and for the umpteenth time I do not want to become "come in large numbers". Two top "images" and a healthy salary distinguish me favorably from other "local Ostarbaiter".
                        Quote: goldfinger
                        The order has been restored "zhestachai", as Father says.

                        This bazaar is generally like a song. good You can hear on winter evenings with vodka and boiled bulb with cucumber. crying
            2. +26
              14 October 2013 11: 26
              I don’t know a greater fascist than Yashin himself ... But migrants need not just leave home, they don’t leave their region of birth ... In Russia there are a lot of their hands ... And the police need to carry out the President’s instructions and not cut loot from such illegal bases ... By the way, it would not hurt to pay a tax visit there and encircle such places with a dues ... Otherwise, one business is crushed, and the other condones ...
              1. New Russia
                +7
                14 October 2013 12: 40
                "And the policemen must follow the instructions of the President"

                Putin: We will not introduce a visa regime.
                Putin's head of the Federal Migration Service, his former KGB colleague: Migration in the world is a natural process, there is nothing to worry about changing the ethnic composition of Russia
                1. +2
                  14 October 2013 15: 13
                  I spoke about the order in the markets ... Not for migration in general ...
                2. +1
                  14 October 2013 15: 16
                  By the way, the policemen do not rule migration ... And I don’t need to poke the FMS, confuse green with warm ...
            3. Airman
              +20
              14 October 2013 11: 45
              Well, the authorities played out tolerance and liberalism, now they are looking for the extreme. Migrants are dearer to them than their citizens. They will catch and condemn this chock, like a killer, for 5-8 years, and 20-30 of our citizens for inciting ethnic hatred. ALL MIGRANTS get out of Russia!
              1. -1
                14 October 2013 12: 02
                And who is a citizen of Russia ?!
              2. Yarosvet
                +4
                14 October 2013 13: 20
                Quote: Povshnik
                Well, the authorities played out tolerance and liberalism, now they are looking for the extreme. Migrants are dearer to them than their citizens
            4. +1
              14 October 2013 12: 35
              Mr. ... Mr. Yashin, I apologize for the expression.
            5. ICT
              +1
              14 October 2013 14: 49
              Quote: fzr1000
              Here is the radish.

              this is for the film, in fact this is called a bastard
            6. OffenroR
              0
              15 October 2013 18: 10
              Quote: Marrying
              You can’t even imagine what’s going on here. smile All for the forceful solution of the issue, up to the toughest, there is still not a lot of oil and all ....

              1 World Civil War wassat From all over the world "relatives" will be called for help fellow
          2. +14
            14 October 2013 09: 33
            Quote: Vadivak
            So what now to evict Russians from there and build an aul?

            And what about the village? The Russians lived and live in Byurilevo. But there was never any order there. By the way, Major Yevsyukov, at one time he taxied the police department in Biryulyovo too ... That's it, note ...
            Quote: Vadivak
            But it seems to me that the residents of Moscow need to be provided with work, and not hell knows visitors

            It’s ridiculous to provide residents of Moscow? I wonder why migrants don’t go somewhere to Siberia or the Far East? Have you ever thought? Yes, simply because there is no work there. And there is work in Moscow. A lot of work. And money. They go to Moscow not only from auls, but also from quite apparently decent Russian cities.
            We don’t have to provide Muscovites with work. We need to invest money in Russia, not Moscow. There is no more idiotic demographic situation than in Russia. Even in China, 20% of the population of small Russia (two cubits on the map) lives in Moscow and the Moscow region. Yes, there are as many minrants ...
            1. +10
              14 October 2013 09: 36
              Yevsyukov, in fact, taxied in Tsaritsyno, though that Tsaritsyno, that Orekhovo, that Biryulyovo was dominated by ... ehh ... migrants and Caucasians are about the same.
              1. +5
                14 October 2013 09: 48
                Quote: fzr1000
                Yevsyukov, in fact, taxied in Tsaritsyno,

                laughing The police station, which Yevsyukov taxied, is located on Zagoryevskaya Street and belongs to Biryulyovo. Not only the west, but the east. And it is really closer to Tsaritsyno.
                But I agree with the rest. The regions are really Caucasian. Well, this is due to the fact that the market there was huge (the benefit was dispersed by Sobyanin), again, the neighborhoods are near
            2. +17
              14 October 2013 09: 54
              Quote: domokl
              The Russians lived and live in Byurilevo. But there was never order there.


              But didn’t you think why?
              Quote: domokl
              ? I wonder why migrants do not go somewhere to Siberia or the Far East? Have you ever thought?


              You didn’t go there. Migrants are already full in Siberia, but about the Far East in general I am surprised at your ignorance. The Chinese live in colonies.
              1. -1
                14 October 2013 10: 15
                Quote: Vadivak
                You didn’t go there. Migrants are already full in Siberia

                laughing I live in Siberia ... And I’ll tell you for sure that there are many Caucasians. But we won’t have pogroms. They behave quite adequately. Just like our native people. And they can fill their faces and help if necessary.
                1. +16
                  14 October 2013 11: 33
                  Quote: domokl
                  I live in Siberia ... And I’ll say for sure that there are Caucasians, even a lot. But we won’t have pogroms ..

                  You live in Siberia, and you write about Biryulyovo as if it was only from there that a hole and a limit came in there.

                  And you also live in some virtual Siberia

                  October 12 2012
                  Caucasians smashed a Siberian cafe shouting "Allahu akbar!" About 15 raiders at the Kemerovo bar "Sliver" beat up peaceful visitors and shot at them.

                  Feb 11, 2011 Surgut police chief: “Extremism” provokes migrants
                  The main reason for the spread of extremist sentiments among the residents of Ugra is the large influx of migrants, many of whom do not want to live in a law-abiding manner, ”said Viktor Ivanov, police chief of Surgut.
                  For the most part, migrants from the North Caucasus, Transcaucasia and Central Asia arriving in the district do not seek to adapt and adapt to the existing rules of life in society and, as practice shows, they often take part in illegal activities, become members of organized criminal groups, he said.
                2. -1
                  14 October 2013 16: 26
                  come on??? fresh tradition but hard to believe!
                3. 0
                  14 October 2013 16: 39
                  In Siberia, I liked the Irkutsk region for its friendliness.
            3. +6
              14 October 2013 10: 13
              Quote: domokl
              . You need to invest money in Russia, not in Moscow. There is no more idiotic demographic situation than in Russia.

              I agree.
              Russia try to manage with your own human resources, why do we need visiting shabashniks!
              1. -2
                14 October 2013 10: 18
                Quote: Ustas
                Russia try to manage with your own human resources, why do we need visiting shabashniks!

                Russia cannot provide the indigenous people with normal jobs and salaries. And in Moscow, both of these are in abundance. Here shabashniks go to where it smells like big money
                1. +8
                  14 October 2013 12: 00
                  Quote: domokl
                  Russia cannot provide indigenous people with normal jobs and wages.

                  Who do you mean by Russia? My opinion is that we switched to the rails of capitalism, as a result of which capital rules everything, it follows from this that our capitalist entrepreneurs do not give us work, in view of my greed for profit, I have already scolded this topic, they say so, you don’t want to work for a certain amount, Uzbeks, Tajiks, etc., who will plow for less, are behind the gates. Well, at construction sites, it’s already a rule to hire cheap workers from Central Asia, which you can hire, and for which you don’t have to pay any taxes, not holiday pay, and not sick leave.
                  1. Yarosvet
                    +3
                    14 October 2013 13: 24
                    Quote: Sirocco
                    we switched to the rails of capitalism, as a result of which capital rules everything

                    With claims on migration policy, too, to apply for capital, or we still have the state?
                    1. +4
                      14 October 2013 13: 30
                      Quote: Yarosvet
                      With claims on migration policy, too, to apply for capital, or we still have the state?

                      You didn’t come into the world yesterday? Capitalism is already a state policy, and as with any power, in the EU and others, we have capitalists behind power, in this case, who pays for the girl, she dances. Although I may be wrong. request
                      1. Yarosvet
                        +3
                        14 October 2013 15: 46
                        Quote: Sirocco
                        Capitalism, this is state policy
                        Capitalism - only a form of socio-economic relations in which the right of private ownership of the means of production is allowed - this is not state policy. Public policy is a system of distribution of benefits, legislative activity and the implementation of the latter in practice.

                        and as with any power, in the EU and others, the capitalists are behind us, in this case whoever pays for the girl dances her
                        True, there is only a small nuance - this dance is great at odds with the current Constitution, which automatically transfers dancers to the category of criminals.
            4. Baboon
              +2
              14 October 2013 12: 35
              They also go to Moscow from Ukraine and Belarus, I personally communicate, and from there they also go to sit in offices, and not to some "non-prestigious" job.
          3. +4
            14 October 2013 09: 58
            Quote: Vadivak
            And it seems to me that the residents of Moscow need to be provided with work,

            Vadim, why the hell do you make them sweep the streets. So long as it’s cleaned up by itself, it will be so. Take out all the migrants now, so tomorrow there will be news on all TV channels that Moscow is buried in snow and mud.
            1. Guun
              -5
              14 October 2013 10: 14
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Take out all the migrants now, so tomorrow there will be news on all the TV channels that Moscow is buried in snow and mud.

              I agree to all 100. I just don’t understand - the Caucasian killer - they beat the Asians. What are the Asians guilty?
              1. roma2
                -2
                14 October 2013 11: 16
                WELCOME TO T A M O J E N N Y S O U Z
                1. goldfinger
                  +8
                  14 October 2013 11: 35
                  Quote: roma2
                  WELCOME TO T A M O J E N N Y S O U Z

                  The Kremlin fought for what, and ran into it.

                  Xenophobia is inflated and arrows are being transferred to the State Department.
                  So they get a pogrom in Biryulyovo. They will continue in the same spirit, they will receive a civil war.

                  All this has already happened.

                  In the late 80s, before the collapse of the USSR, there were Sumgayit and many other places.

                  And a hundred years ago, before the collapse of the Russian Empire, there were pogroms. Read the article HOW RUSSIA LOST THE WAR OF JAPAN on the website "Satire and Life".

                  Putin's Russia has an increasing chance of stepping on this rake for the third time. No wonder Putin was a threesome at school ...
                  1. Yarosvet
                    +6
                    14 October 2013 13: 28
                    Quote: goldfinger
                    Xenophobia is inflated and arrows are being transferred to the State Department.
                    So they get a pogrom in Biryulyovo. Will continue in the same vein, get a civil war
              2. 0
                14 October 2013 13: 23
                And the radicals do not care. And cons instructed you in confirmation. Sunni radicals, too, Christians and Alawites blamed only because they were not of their faith.
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            3. +27
              14 October 2013 10: 17
              Alexander Romanov I have a grandfather from the top floor, in the spring I wanted to go as a janitor, to sweep our 3 closest houses, Do you know what they told him? We do not need you, we have enough emigrants, please do not talk nonsense if you do not know the whole situation.
              Guun You have stereotypes in relation to Muscovites no more no less, you find it even more difficult to know the current situation.
              1. -5
                14 October 2013 10: 26
                Quote: Marrying
                please do not talk nonsense if you do not know the whole situation.

                Eugene, I know the situation and will be responsible for Alexander. Moreover, I know not Grandfather’s words, but as a person who really did this recently in Novogireevo. Really, why is Grandfather UK? For janitors there are a lot of additional work that your grandfather will never do. You want an example ? Sobyanin leaves on okrugs on Saturdays to see what and how. Moreover, he never tells the exact route. Local officials, having learned that he is going to their okrug, drive everyone and everyone out onto the streets to bring gloss. The chair is a pity. And these janitors work not only during working hours, but all night. Would your grandfather have worked? Yes, never.
                And then. You go to work at 7 in the morning. Is your porch clean? Clean. There are no beer bottles, no gobies ... Because the migrant works from 5 in the morning and all day. For a penny by Moscow standards.
                1. +23
                  14 October 2013 10: 33
                  domokl Good day, although still morning, but sunny .... good autumn.
                  Bottles? Gobies and a lot of things are lying around, although I live in the Central Administrative District, I can tell the region it is not difficult for me. The duties of a janitor, to keep his plot clean so? Since I’m sure that my grandfather would have done it, but the emigrants warm their hands, so they refused to my grandfather, let's be realistic.
                2. Baboon
                  +2
                  14 October 2013 13: 04
                  And grandfather will also clean in the morning, and they clean the streets from 5 in the morning to 7 already finish. In addition to officials, there are various bodies, the Ministry of Emergencies, the Ministry of Internal Affairs ... And they have territories not only in Moscow, but also in the Moscow Region entire TCs. So they are taken out there for cleaning, something like subbotnik turns out. And parks in Moscow also need to be cleaned.
                3. Yarosvet
                  +8
                  14 October 2013 13: 34
                  Quote: domokl
                  For janitors, there are tons of extra work your grandfather will never do.
                  Local officials, having learned that he is going to their district, expel everyone and everything to the streets to bring gloss
                  And these wipers work not only during working hours, but also all night because the migrant works from 5 in the morning and all day. For a penny by Moscow standards.


                  It only says that the issue is systemic and rests on non-compliance with the TC.
                  Non-compliance with the TC rests on uncontrolledness and corruption.
                  Uncontrollability and corruption rests on the priorities and policies determined by the first person of the state.

                  Conclusions?
                4. Turtles
                  +3
                  14 October 2013 14: 16
                  domokl
                  Do you already figure out where you live in Siberia or Novogireevo?
            4. fklj
              +17
              14 October 2013 10: 19
              In the same Moscow region there are many who want to sweep the streets. You have to pay for work.
              1. +8
                14 October 2013 10: 23
                fklj You are just smart, decent salary solution to the problem!
              2. 0
                14 October 2013 10: 31
                laughing j ->
                Quote: fkl laughing j
                In the same Moscow region there are many who want to sweep the streets. You have to pay for work.

                That's right. To pay MORE than now. Only where does the salary come from? The state order is put up for tender. And the one who undertakes to do the job for less money wins. And what should the entrepreneur do? Win up the business or set the salary in such a volume so as not to burn out?
                Romanov also wrote about this. To make Muscovites and Muscovites work, you need to fulfill a bunch of their conditions. Or hire those who agree with the conditions proposed by the entrepreneur.
                1. fklj
                  +10
                  14 October 2013 10: 37
                  There is another choice. Hire a "Gaster" and put the "extra" money in your pocket or pay our janitor for work.
                2. +16
                  14 October 2013 10: 37
                  domokl You ulcerate again! Current status:
                  1. Emigrant, you will not expel work, you will expel the right to download, instead of 20, we will pay 000, you will expel your mouth. Once again I say this is beneficial, not Muscovites.
                  1. 0
                    14 October 2013 11: 18
                    Quote: Marrying
                    Current status:
                    1. Emigrant, you will not expel work, you expel the right to download, instead of 20 000, we will pay 12 000, we will expel our mouth.

                    But did I write that it is not profitable? It is beneficial if you live normally with the district administration of a single customer. Otherwise, add the costs of another 10-15% of the fines from them.
                    And the situation that you described is when an illegal slave force is used. But this is already a question for the migration service. (I don’t know today's prices, but a few years ago it officially cost 2000 rubles and 100 rubles for something there.)
                    Here we are talking about those who have a work permit and are officially registered in Moscow.
                    When Luzhkov pompously opened the Tsaritsyno complex, which was restored, or rather completed in Luzhkov’s style. By the date. And then the fun began. The work in the museum that threatened to destroy all the work. They called specialists from the RAS. They calculated 80 million elimination costs. Resin cut his power to 40 ... And the company won the tender for 4 million ... So much for the benefits and reasons for using migrants.
                3. Yarosvet
                  +5
                  14 October 2013 13: 40
                  Quote: domokl
                  That's right. To pay MORE than now. Only where does the salary come from? The state order is put up for tender. And the one who undertakes to do the job for less money wins. And what should the entrepreneur do? Win up the business or set the salary in such a volume so as not to burn out?
                  In our Constitution, is an entrepreneur the highest value, or a person?

                  Or hire those who agree to the terms proposed by the entrepreneur
                  It’s strange - for some reason, the opposite happens with the car industry: instead of increasing the quality of cars, they put protective duties on foreign cars and do not soar.
                4. -1
                  14 October 2013 23: 07
                  oh, what kind of poor things are you in Moscow ... Yes, because of your stinginess and greed, you turned all of Russia against yourself, you need a person to work for three for one salary and combine three other specialties at the same time !!! No matter how they propose a job in Moscow, this must be done, and then, and if you calculate it, you will save at least hundreds of thousands of rubles on one employee.
              3. -4
                14 October 2013 12: 14
                Yah?! In Moscow?!
                My parents in the province have Russian janitors. I was in Moscow and it’s enough for me that everything is lost in the subway. And for some reason I think that it was not the non-Russians who lost it, but the cheerleaders, who were throwing each other with their seats at the matches. You at least take a look at the fresh videos on YouTube on Biryulyovo before defending these scumbags.
            5. +13
              14 October 2013 10: 57
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Take out all the migrants now, so tomorrow there will be news on all the TV channels that Moscow is buried in snow and mud.

              No, Sasha. Real wages will start to pay, not the pennies on which migrants sit. I’m currently working in the housing and communal services, I know how loot is being cut. I already wrote, З / П one is calculated, another is paid. And in the chain the contractor sits on the contractor. The final hard worker gets a penny.
              1. 0
                14 October 2013 23: 17
                Yes, everyone has known this for a long time, there was even a TV show. The center allocates money to the same janitor, while one of the officials "cuts" part of this money, then the amount goes to the region - they cut off a piece, from the region to the district, and there they chopped off a piece, so the final salary-recipient gets crumbs from of this cake. And this chain is not difficult to trace, there are simply no interested persons, the whole country is mired in corruption, and if things go on like this, then that is not regrettable, but indeed the Civil Civil War may begin.
            6. avt
              +7
              14 October 2013 11: 40
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Vadim, why the hell do you make them sweep the streets. As long as we clean up the mess ourselves, it will be so.

              Well, how much snowstorm can you drive? It seems that a long time ago they were given a monetary situation when, according to a statement of 40 thousand, migrants for the top ten sign and live in basements, and the officially relying apartment, as a rule, odnushka on the ground floor, surrenders for money in black. Even in the subway, about three years ago there was no one Asian - a cleaner, now they have already appeared, and there, I don’t remember as a keepsake, but there were no less than 25 per month with all their real benefits. It’s difficult to rule with locals and visitors from the region, as the rules quickly figure it out when they are warm ... and they don’t have to hide, they have a passport, they easily put the rule on the hossies as a rule. Just give me a tax statement - they’ll gladly squeeze a legal person dry, already like that helped the guys. And what about a slave? They even cannot explain what they want to say in Russian.
              Quote: Guun
              What are the Asians guilty?

              It’s already realistically that they are straying into hungry flocks, in addition to individual robberies, Tajik gangs have already taken - they flew into warehouses in industrial zones, goods were taken out.
        2. Baboon
          +1
          14 October 2013 12: 28
          This started after the "Cherkizon" was closed, all these people began to actively populate not only Biryulyovo, but in general the South-East of Moscow. There is a Moscow shopping center nearby, and the whole district is populated, and most of them rent apartments, there is a complete international, from where there are no people.
          1. avt
            +7
            14 October 2013 12: 45
            Quote: Babon
            There is the Moscow Shopping Center nearby, and the whole district is populated, and for the most part they rent apartments, there is a complete international, from where there are no people.

            Okay, take off! I’m a friend, lives in Maryino, immediately said - look at the payment for the apartment. And, surely, the column has disappeared how many people live in the apartment. A friend called the REU on the advice, and in response - this is for your safety. And then they began to pop up in Lublin written in batches the Chinese. The people rushed - write out, and muzzles in the passport office and the Federal Migration Service - look for them and write them out. Here you have the rubber apartments without the knowledge of the tenants, but the law will not be accepted and the answers will be answered by the fatty FMS cats and the passport-residents and understand no one wants, the loot is taken and spent.
            1. Baboon
              +6
              14 October 2013 12: 58
              Yes, especially passport officers are welded, most importantly, this is not a secret. Yes, the ads are hanging - "we make out the registration" and the passportists themselves hang up. I spoke here with one former official, he talked about one passport office in Yasenevo. So there the Chechen hangs around all day, just to the soul of drunken loners, drug addicts. The "cops" themselves ordered him, and this official was asked not to meddle in his own business, since he walks there it means he needs something.
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      2. Danilka
        +18
        14 October 2013 08: 52
        in-in ... in Pugachev there was a "peaceful rally" in Biryulyovo-rally with a splash of "emotions" and will it be for the third time? Revolution or super pogrom? Dokol ???? angry
        1. -10
          14 October 2013 10: 16
          The rally ?! Cars burned and shopping centers. And if as a result of the actions of these scumbags you will suffer ?! How do these radicals differ from the Islamic ?! What are these rams, what are those. Instead of a head, a bone.
          1. +13
            14 October 2013 11: 03
            Quote: 31231
            How do these radicals differ from the Islamic ?!

            They are ours. Russians. Do not understand the difference? Want to make a liberal appearance? Then, if that, for sure
            Quote: 31231
            you will suffer
            1. -5
              14 October 2013 11: 21
              They are ours. Russians.


              Pop Gapon was also Russian. Chikatilo was also Russian. Vlasov was also Russian.
              Maybe a person is marginalized and scumbag only from the fact that Russian nationality is yours. You may be ready to endure his illegal tricks, but for me personally, everyone is equal before the law. We Russians are no exception. And the place of the exceptional has long been occupied by the Americans.
              1. +15
                14 October 2013 12: 11
                Quote: 31231
                but for me personally, everyone is equal before the law. We Russians are no exception

                That is the problem. The law does not work. And we Russians are just the exception. And if the law doesn’t work, there will be pogroms. The system seeks a balance of justice. And do not give out the legitimate indignation of Russian citizens for provocations by the Nazis. If there is no reason, you won’t provoke anyone, even crack, but if you’re there, you don’t need to provoke, it will break through itself and not seem enough ...
              2. +4
                14 October 2013 12: 12
                Quote: 31231
                Pop Gapon was also Russian.


                The cleverest man by the way was Georgy Apollonovich. The rector of the orphanage of St. Olga, the author of the project, which provided for the creation of labor colonies for the rehabilitation of unemployed tramps, the model for which was the Kronstadt House of industriousness, proposed the founding of a new working society on the model of independent English unions in general read about it
                1. -1
                  14 October 2013 14: 20
                  Gapon’s Aikyu was measured ?! For some reason I have a religion outside of politics. And if a clergyman crawls into politics under the guise of a cassock and dignity, then this is not from a great mind.
          2. +10
            14 October 2013 11: 07
            Quote: 31231
            And if as a result of the actions of these scumbags you will suffer ?! How do these radicals differ from the Islamic ?! What are these rams, what are those. Instead of a head, a bone.

            The difference is that Ours do not go to bargain with them. And if your children suffer from pasties? Will you hope for justice? It is unlikely. Only the introduction of strict migration laws like Saudi Arabia and the Emirates will help. In any other case, the pogroms will continue, and there will be people speculating on this.
            1. -3
              14 October 2013 11: 17
              Only the introduction of strict migration laws like Saudi Arabia and the Emirates will help.

              Do you think this will stop the Natsik ?! Expel Caucasians and Asians. Although I have little idea how it will look and how a citizen of Russia or the CSTO will be kicked out.
              Do you think the provocateurs of the Natsik calm down ?! I doubt it.
              After all, there are still Jews, Tatars, Buryats.
              1. +3
                14 October 2013 11: 39
                Quote: 31231
                Do you think the provocateurs of the Natsik calm down ?! I doubt it.
                After all, there are still Jews, Tatars, Buryats.

                All this can be supplemented by the introduction of registration. Did it work before? Will work now.
                1. 0
                  14 October 2013 12: 32
                  that is, a Caucasian citizen of Russia with a residence permit for stabbing does not cause a pogrom of Natsik and bad youth ?! Do you really believe that ?!
                  Okay, the nerus staged a stabbing, but what is the fault of the shopping center and its employees ?! What are the car owners to blame for ?! Or have you not watched the YouTube video about the actions of these "innocent" thugs yet ?!
                  I was in Kazakhstan and you know what surprised me ?! Education of youth. Children are brought up respect for the state, for the elders, for the laws. What respect can these young thugs say if you offer to leave them without punishment ?!
                  Then Vani Agafonov’s holy martyrs of Caucasians appear. And the fact that they wring out phones is not significant.
                  1. New Russia
                    +7
                    14 October 2013 12: 47
                    "For stabbing will not cause a pogrom of the Nazis and bad youth ?!" Why are you all the time Putin people are bad people, young people? And when people such as you are indignant with Putler, they immediately accuse them of ingratitude to the superlord and stupidity) A bad king always has the people to blame)
                    And the people here judging by this summer and yesterday’s events are getting smarter)
                    1. 0
                      14 October 2013 13: 58
                      What kind of youth are you talking about ?! That which shopping center and cars burned yesterday ?! Or the one who serves in the army, or studies and works, and she has no time to buzz ?!
                      Suns, at 93 I myself went with such a herd of students to the administration of Eburg. I don’t remember what we then demanded, but for us it would be more adrenaline than something conscious. Nevertheless, several provocateurs launched empty bottles in riot police. And well done cops that did not begin to taunt all the fools of youngsters, but pulled out these provocateurs and rejuvenated. And who tried to intercede, that also got it. With the help of such young hamsters, revolutions are made.
                      1. New Russia
                        +1
                        14 October 2013 14: 05
                        "Or the one that serves in the army, or studies and works, and she has no time to squabble ?!" Buzz? Should they beat to sit still and be silent? I have a friend, 25 for him, he served in the army and then under a contract for several years, now he runs construction projects in Sochi, so he himself proudly admitted to me that he "buzzed" one Caucasian just because he tried to meet his Russian friend, and I would go out to the square to "pobuzit" if such a situation happens. and this is with us, in peaceful Adygea.
                      2. -1
                        14 October 2013 15: 25
                        Buzz? What they should beat to sit quietly and be silent?



                        Et doo! Just like those Arabs in Paris. They take out their protest on the property of others and the health of others.
                      3. 0
                        14 October 2013 23: 33
                        by the way, that shopping center belongs to some thread to a deputy of a certain scale, and only his pogrom, the shopping center, could attract the attention of the authorities, and if there were no pogrom, then the cops would always work from 16:00 to 23:00 and drink beer at home
                  2. +3
                    14 October 2013 14: 25
                    Quote: 31231
                    that is, a Caucasian citizen of Russia with a residence permit for stabbing does not cause a pogrom of Natsik and bad youth ?!

                    There will always be exceptions. Do you remember the registration, how did it work? There will be no influx of the same Caucasians in such volumes. And maybe this is not right, but I am more tolerant of the antics of my youth than of the antics of the Caucasians. They don’t go to someone else’s monastery with their own charter, understand?
                    1. -5
                      14 October 2013 15: 28
                      And maybe this is not right, but I am more tolerant of the antics of my youth than of the antics of the Caucasians.

                      Criminals have no nationality. Everyone is equal before the law. Including these headless.

                      1. +7
                        14 October 2013 15: 52
                        Quote: 31231
                        Criminals have no nationality. Everyone is equal before the law.

                        You tell the judges, otherwise, according to Article 282 Russians alone are sitting.
                      2. -3
                        14 October 2013 16: 45
                        But what should I fight for the murder should go under Article 282 ?! Oh, wei, you are just like that Pontius Pilate verb.
                      3. +2
                        14 October 2013 17: 23
                        Quote: 31231
                        But what should I fight for the murder should go under Article 282 ?!

                        When the Russians are killed with the cries of Alah Akbar, how do you think this should be regarded?
                      4. -5
                        14 October 2013 21: 41
                        Have you seen the recording of Shcherbakov’s murder with voice acting ?!
                        Wow. I should have looked at least with one eye without voice acting, and you even heard "Allah akbar".
                      5. +3
                        14 October 2013 23: 45
                        I’m not catching up with something; you, in your Joburg, have froze so much or you really are such a brake, here it’s not only Shcherbakov’s conversation, but, in general, Russia
                      6. +4
                        14 October 2013 23: 42
                        just as the Russians begin to defend their right to life, so immediately fomenting inter-divide, and how to dance Lizginka in the middle of the night under the windows of the house, so observe tolerance.
                      7. Yarosvet
                        +4
                        14 October 2013 15: 55
                        Quote: 31231
                        Criminals have no nationality. Everyone is equal before the law

                        The fact of the matter is that not all were equal, but upon closer examination it turned out that those who are not equal have either a social class, or a North Caucasian or, less often, Central Asian nationality.

                        Everyone would be equal - there would be nothing to discuss now.
                      8. +2
                        14 October 2013 23: 39
                        it’s just interesting why all the detained Caucasians usually have FSB xivs, and they are quickly released, like they were on a mission (sometimes it feels like the whole Caucasus is working for the FSB).
                  3. -1
                    14 October 2013 22: 56
                    Quote: 31231
                    Okay, the nerus staged a stabbing, but what is the fault of the shopping center and its employees ?! What are the car owners to blame for ?! Or have you not watched the YouTube video about the actions of these "innocent" thugs yet ?!


                    When Russians get from Caucasians or Asians, it’s bad. But when Russians beat or bomb someone it’s good ... But for some reason they bomb those who are not guilty in principle. And then they themselves will shout that someone is stirring up ethnic hatred.
                    If, the crowd had beaten, specifically the guilty one, then as they say he asked for it ...
                    But when they knead, everyone who comes to hand is already too much ...
                  4. +1
                    14 October 2013 23: 28
                    I was born, grew up and live in the Caucasus, I see how old people teach their children to their minds, but then what these "educated" children do in Russian cities, you would have seen, do not believe me, come to Stavropol Territory, to the eastern regions of the region, or to Krasnodar edge, to the southern regions
              2. +9
                14 October 2013 12: 53
                Quote: 31231
                After all, there are still Jews, Tatars, Buryats.


                You see the ones you live live according to the laws of the country, not Sharia and customs brought with you. Tatars in general were a stronghold of autocracy because they have in their blood a love of order in general.
                1. 0
                  14 October 2013 13: 43
                  Yah?! Seriously ?! I know at least five Czechs, two Dagas, who do not pray. There is nothing to say about Tajik friends. Hard workers and once they bow to Allah.
          3. Danilka
            +3
            14 October 2013 13: 38
            And I'm actually a blue-eyed Aryan both in passport and in appearance ... although I recall an anecdote -
            conversation of two Jews
            -chem did you hear there will soon be pogroms
            I’m Russian on my passport !!
            -. they will beat not according to the passport but in the face! laughing bully
      3. +13
        14 October 2013 09: 18
        It is necessary for the military to occupy police stations and release detainees ...
        Policemen do not act in the legal field and do not carry out the functions of justice ...
        Sobyanin and officials, unfortunately, are also not on the side of the Verse speeches ....
        So OTHER PEOPLE will already head ...

        Military)))
        1. +16
          14 October 2013 09: 33
          And by that time ...
          About 380 detainees in the Biryulyovo Zapadnoye area will be interrogated in a criminal case on hooliganism, a spokesman for the capital’s Interior Ministry head office said on Monday night.

          “Given the circumstances of the incident in the area of ​​Biryulyovo Zapadnoe, 30 investigators of the main investigative department of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia for Moscow are currently conducting urgent investigative actions with detainees for disturbing public order. About 380 detainees will be questioned in a criminal case instituted under part 2 of Article 213 (“Hooliganism”), ”a source quoted as saying by Interfax.
          For investigators, you’ve found a better job than catching a killer ...
          1. +1
            14 October 2013 10: 27
            And much separates these officials of justice from the murderer of the nerus ?! If they indiscriminately stammered the "non-Russians" they came across, what kind of adequacy can we say ?!
            These are the same criminals as the distinguished Nerus.
            Put them in turn in the same cell with the killer and let them catch up. The most interesting thing was that he was not Russian.
            I have a brother with a friend who killed a regular criminal with a knife. Russian scumbag. 15 years for 2 corpses. Normal household with a fight.
            And I do not have the slightest desire to somehow support such scumbags.
          2. Danilka
            0
            14 October 2013 13: 42
            and they have a plan on their mind. Give 380 cases !!! bully
        2. +7
          14 October 2013 09: 40
          Quote: Asgard
          Policemen do not act in the legal field and do not carry out the functions of justice ...

          So maybe this is the whole point? "The law is one for all"! This principle should be put at the forefront. Migrants, Muscovites, newcomers - it doesn't matter. If they know that at the slightest violation of the law they will be punished, regardless of "persons", then there will be order. And now we need to act VERY HARD, so as not to flare up further. And further support this principle. And not only in Moscow. All over the country. Otherwise, a general revolt cannot be avoided. IMHO
        3. gladiatorakz
          +10
          14 October 2013 10: 58
          Quote: Asgard
          It is necessary for the military to occupy police stations and release detainees ...
          Policemen do not act in the legal field and do not carry out the functions of justice ...

          It would be good, but unrealistic. The army is smaller than the Ministry of Internal Affairs. And psychologically and morally, they are not ready to defend their people without an order. Or against the order. But the creation of popular squads and partisan movements is necessary.
          1. +7
            14 October 2013 11: 09
            The movement will begin and the POLICE OFFERS will take the side of the People ...
            Do not think that only "traitors" serve in the police ....
            Yes, I agree that not the best representatives ....
            inclined and inclined to protect traitors - "the occupation system of bandits"

            But after all, they understand THIS very well ....
            If somewhere, something is organized, We will see how Kolokoltsev begins to say the right thing ...
            -and not like "drunk football fans" and that Murder is a REASON
            FIRED AT ALL
            1. gladiatorakz
              +5
              14 October 2013 11: 31
              Quote: Asgard
              The movement will begin and the POLICE OFFERS will take the side of the People ...
              Do not think that only "traitors" serve in the police ....
              Yes, I agree that not the best representatives ....
              inclined and inclined to protect traitors - "the occupation system of bandits"

              Asgard, I’m not saying that in the Ministry of Internal Affairs there are only traitors to the People. And in spetsnaz so generally they are few. But in order for them to take the side of the People, their eyes (or maybe Soul) must open and go beyond the red flags. I think this is inevitable. The question is, what kind of blood?
            2. Dober
              +3
              14 October 2013 22: 25
              Quote: Asgard
              The movement will begin and the POLICE OFFERS will take the side of the People ...

              I'll argue with anyone. that do not get up!
              This power was given to them by so many nishtyaks that they did not even dream of five years ago. I have both uncles BOOL police officers (in the past). Last August I spoke a lot with them on this subject ...
              And they don’t know about another power. and they don’t want to know. The task is to PROTECT this. And who will stand up against the defense [b] (AUTHORITIES) [/ b] - that will be replaced.
              Estimate yourself:
              The criminal could be found in a few hours, it was enough to put a little pressure on the "people" who came from Azerbaijan to "look" at the vegetable base. Such an approach would be much more effective than any “Volcano”, because for the sake of preserving the right to freely sell tomatoes, apricots will give not only the murderer, but also their brother to justice. And the capture of the killer would contribute to a decline in passions. There was not even an attempt to do this. Why? Inability, ignorance, unwillingness ... / underline necessary /.

              The fact that the killer was an Azerbaijani was guessed by many, as the Transcaucasian Turks themselves say, “Biryulyovo is the Azerbaijani pearl of Moscow,” but apparently misunderstood political correctness (if we suspect corruption) did not allow saying this.
              [b] But what the Moscow police did not do was come from Azerbaijan themselves - they recognized their compatriot as the killer. [/ b] I would like to immediately clarify, this was done not out of philanthropic motives, but with the aim of helping others to "lay down on bottom ”and wait out“ troubled times ”.

              So, the administrators of the largest groups of Azerbaijanis on VKontakte on the night of October 14 published records that the failed rapist and murderer Yegor Shcherbakova is an Azerbaijani. Group administrators urged their fellow tribesmen to be careful not to engage in skirmishes and not to leave their homes without special need. At the same time, it was also indicated [b] that the killer is a native of Shamkhor, which unequivocally confirms that the Azerbaijani community in Moscow knows the identity of the criminal. [/ B] Some Ramil Agayev confirms the information:
              [b] “Aslan, is anything known? As far as I know, he is ours, he worked at that very vegetable warehouse. ”[/ B]
              It is symptomatic that the members of the group immediately attacked the administrators, accusing them of allegedly betraying their fellow tribesman. A certain Farrukh Seidmammedov could not resist the provocation that could cause new bloodshed: [b] “Many already knew that it was possible not to shoot it, the protesters had already killed two brothers of Azerbaijanis.” [/ b] Then he explained: [b] “The father said they killed two brothers. One died immediately, the other in the hospital ”[/ b].
              Against this background, the Russian guy’s appeal to the Azerbaijanis looks completely hopeless: [b] “Hand him out. Show that you are against crime. If you hide it or block it, it will clearly show that you approve of such behavior, especially on a foreign land. "[/ B]

              And now IMHO - All this is the norm of behavior of the Transcaucasian abrek or Asian - which he wants to introduce in Russia, which provides his family with the opportunity not to starve to death.
              Crime has a nationality. Today she is an AZERBAIJAN.
          2. +6
            14 October 2013 11: 15
            Quote: gladiatorakz
            But the creation of popular squads and partisan movements is necessary.

            A good thought, but without the support of the state, is doomed to failure. And our Gus state will not do this. These squads will instantly declare organized crime groups and gangs. Kvachkov, Khabarov, Far Eastern partisans are an example of this.
        4. +6
          14 October 2013 11: 15
          Asgard It is necessary for the military to occupy police stations and release detainees


          This is an appeal from your side. In the course that the main elite of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is the former military, also with the FSB, here they are destroying it quietly, phrase from the beginning of the 90s in police circles,Boots killed the police


          Police officers do not act in the legal field


          And in what field should they act? They follow orders that gives them a hand-in. For more details, tell me how it should act.
      4. +13
        14 October 2013 09: 50
        And tomorrow the holiday begins Kurban-Bayram (now the time has come for the holidays ...), in Moscow it can be very "interesting" ...
        1. Danilka
          +3
          14 October 2013 13: 50
          in general, you can catch so many illegal immigrants on this holiday ... Mama Do not Cry. Admission is free, and at the exit the docks-registration citizen! No? Do you want a free tour to the sunny ... camp?
          and about K-B a little spark-and can blaze. Although I'm not a fortuneteller feel request
      5. +3
        14 October 2013 11: 21
        Zhenya All for the forceful solution of the issue, up to the toughest


        And now in more detail. Who is the power solution to the issue-the people, the street?

        Yesterday I looked — how many people immediately joined this rally, deputies, politicians and other dishonesty — all make political capital, raise ratings, blame the local police department, council and so on — and they’re all right angels in the Dumasay for a long time enter a visa regime, accept normal laws

        The second question and the most important one, how to solve the problem with immigrants from the North Caucasus (Mr. Russia), this question is, in my opinion, one of the main
        1. goldfinger
          +6
          14 October 2013 11: 39
          Russian riot.
          Citizens are already tired that Russia is under the Caucasian yoke.
          Tolerance is not a blind eye to Caucasian banditry and demonstrative disrespect for the laws of the Russian Federation.
          .If it is blazing across the country, a terrible orgy will begin. Who needs this? ...
          To the Zaputins.
          Abroad, they have families, loot, real estate.
          Having ruined Russia and dumped to the West, they expect that no one will look for them.
          There is no country.
          1. +1
            14 October 2013 11: 49
            goldfinger

            Russian riot


            These are all the slogans on your part, is there a concrete program of action?
            1. +5
              14 October 2013 12: 07
              Quote: Rustam
              These are all the slogans on your part, is there a concrete program of action?

              There is:
              1) Refusal of foreign labor.
              2) The most severe punishment for corrupt officials, including bribery in uniform, up to life imprisonment.
              3) Deportation of all illegal immigrants.
              4) Real public control over the activities of officials. Open trials. The ability to make a civil arrest.
              1. rolik
                0
                14 October 2013 12: 48
                Quote: Russkiy_Prapor
                1) Refusal of foreign labor.
                2) The most severe punishment for corrupt officials, including bribery in uniform, up to life imprisonment.
                3) Deportation of all illegal immigrants.
                4) Real public control over the activities of officials. Open trials. The ability to make a civil arrest.

                This, of course, is all interesting.
                No foreign slave / force can not do. In many large cities, such as Moscow, local people will not go to work for 15000 a month. In order for this to happen, it is necessary to raise the janitor's salaries to 40000-50000. To do this, it is necessary to firmly take the entire housing and communal services system in the gauntlet. Take on management companies, almost the whole mess comes from there.
                As for our peace officers, I agree completely.
                Well, about public control over officials, this is fantastic. Which official will allow public control over himself. In order to control officials, one has to do something like the services of one's own security, or create a detachment of "untouchables" - only in the economy. Then the bureaucrat will think before putting a bribe in his pocket.
                Well, in general, with all the successes of foreign policy, it is almost a complete failure in the domestic in the most important areas. We would have a normal prime minister, who would form an adequate cabinet.
                1. +3
                  14 October 2013 12: 57
                  Quote: rolik
                  No foreign slave / force can not do. In many large cities, such as Moscow, local people will not go to work for 15000 a month. In order for this to happen, it is necessary to raise the janitor's salaries to 40000-50000.

                  15000 pay the janitor a migrant in his arms, and he signs for 30000. Any pensioner will be glad of such an increase. That is precisely why they don’t take Russians into janitors, they will have to pay honestly.
                  Quote: rolik
                  Well, as for public control over officials, this is fantastic. Which official will allow himself public control.

                  And who will ask these freaks? To accept the law and they will not go anywhere.
                  1. rolik
                    +3
                    14 October 2013 13: 21
                    Quote: Russkiy_Prapor
                    15000 pay the janitor a migrant in his arms, and he signs for 30000. Any pensioner will be glad of such an increase. That is precisely why they don’t take Russians into janitors, they will have to pay honestly.

                    So I wrote about this: to deal with Management Companies.
                    Quote: Russkiy_Prapor
                    And who will ask these freaks? To accept the law and they will not go anywhere.

                    And who will pass these laws ??? people??? the same bureaucrats and will have to accept it in the Duma)))) That's why I’m talking about the Security Service, which would be appointed by presidential decree, or by order of the Prime Minister.
                2. Yarosvet
                  +4
                  14 October 2013 14: 20
                  Quote: rolik
                  No foreign slave / force can not do. In many large cities, such as Moscow, local people will not go to work for 15000 a month. In order for this to happen, it is necessary to raise the janitor's salaries to 40000-50000

                  In Australia, the minimum wage is equal to 50% of the PPP GDP per capita (not taxed)

                  In Brazil, the minimum wage is 32% (tax free)

                  In the Russian Federation - 8% (minus 13% of the amount)

                  That is, the normal minimum wage for the Russian Federation (social state) in the region of 31-32 tr. (for Moscow in the region of 35-40). Given the working conditions of the salary, the janitor in Moscow not only should, but may also be in the region of 50-60 tr.

                  The question of replacing vacant seats with the position of a janitor by Russian citizens is a question of the amount of social guarantees, and this question is one of the main directions of the state’s internal policy.
                  1. rolik
                    0
                    14 October 2013 14: 52
                    Quote: Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet

                    In the constitution, please note, the President DETERMINES, that is, gives direction. But the Duma or Parliament takes these very directions. And these, as they say in Odessa, are two different things. GDP may determine, but other participants in the action may not accept it. Or, as in the case of DAM, look from a different perspective on this goal and accordingly ..... screw up everything in the end.
                    1. Yarosvet
                      +2
                      14 October 2013 16: 35
                      Quote: rolik
                      But the Duma or Parliament accepts these very directions.
                      The Duma and parliament adopt not directions, but federal laws, which are then signed by the President. HAVING A VETO LAW.

                      GDP may determine, but other participants in the action may not accept
                      The policies are specified by presidential decrees MANDATORY (from 90 of the Constitution).

                      These decrees are not "executed" by the government - a group of civil servants, which is actually FORMED AND APPOINTED BY THE PRESIDENT.

                      Article 14 of the Law on Civil Service stipulates for non-compliance with presidential decrees, albeit miserable, but responsibility - which NONE OF THE PRESIDENT allegedly violated.
                      1. rolik
                        +1
                        14 October 2013 17: 14
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        The Duma and parliament adopt not directions, but federal laws, which are then signed by the President. HAVING A VETO LAW.

                        Everything is correct, but Article 80 (which you cited) clearly states that the president determines the directions in the domestic and foreign policy of the state. For example, the GDP determined the direction for integration with Belarus, respectively, subordinate structures must prepare legislative proposals (initiatives. According to part 1 of article 104 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the President of the Russian Federation, the Federation Council, members of the Federation Council, deputies of the State Duma, the Government of the Russian Federation, legislative (representative) bodies of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, as well as the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation, the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation and the Supreme Arbitration Court of the Russian Federation on the issues of their jurisdiction. According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, draft laws are submitted only to the State Duma. This secures the privilege of the Duma to begin consideration of any draft law, which excludes a similar possibility for the Federation Council. The Federation Council, included in the circle of subjects of legislative initiative, can exercise this right only by submitting a bill to the State Duma. Now about the President and his role in all this fun))) According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the President of the Russian Federation signs and promulgates The laws passed by the Federal Assembly are gone. This right, known in some countries as promulgation, transforms acts of the legislature into acts of government. Only after the head of state promulgates the adopted federal law, this law acquires legal force obliging to execute it. 2 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the President of the Russian Federation is obliged to sign the adopted federal law, if within 107 days from the date of receipt he does not reject it. He also has no right not to sign a federal law rejected by him earlier after its re-approval by the State Duma and the Federation Council within seven days from the date of receipt of the decisions of the chambers of the Federal Assembly on the approval of the law in the original version and is obliged to promulgate this law (paragraph "d" of Art. 14, part 84, article 3 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation) The President of the Russian Federation has the right of veto, the overcoming of which, upon reconsideration by the chambers of the Federal Assembly, requires a two-thirds majority of votes of deputies (members) in each chamber. The veto is an effective weapon in the hands of the President of the Russian Federation, he often uses it. However, as noted above, the President of the Russian Federation participates in the legislative process at earlier stages. He has (and quite often implements) the right of legislative initiative, gives an opinion on bills adopted by the State Duma in the first and second readings, and participates in legislative activity at virtually all stages. This activity is carried out in accordance with the Regulations on the Procedure for Interaction between the President of the Russian Federation and the Chambers of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation in the Legislative Process, approved by the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation (as amended on March 107, 4).
                      2. rolik
                        0
                        14 October 2013 17: 28
                        Quote: rolik
                        This activity is carried out in accordance with the Regulation on the Procedure for Interaction of the President of the Russian Federation with the Chambers of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation in the legislative process approved by the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation (as amended on March 4, 1998).

                        I will continue. So, naturally, a lot of people, including me, would like the LADY to be asked out of the Kremlin. But the reality is probably a little more complicated than we imagine it. What if there is an agreement between VVP and DAM that DAM will keep the post of prime minister for the first presidential term of VVP ???? Because, everyone is already convinced of this, GDP clearly follows its promises. When joining, for the first time, to the presidency after EBN, he promised the latter that he would not touch his people. Indeed, I did not touch it for a long time. Then came the reshuffle, it didn’t come to full exclusion from power, but the dismissed (rearranged) person usually received a position that could not allow him to harm as before. Now the situevina is developing very interestingly, LADIES frankly mows-mows-mows, but sits in her chair. Although, from the outside. it should seem like it’s time to give him a magic penal. But this is not happening, I still lean towards theory, agreement. Well, all other countries need to show our moral image that the president and the prime minister are doing the same thing. Although the jambs of the plush are trying to be corrected by subsequent decrees, or to mitigate the consequences of the iPhone's body movements. And at the same time, preparations are underway for the command "all of a sudden," with the change of the entire Cabinet headed by the plush. No wonder Surkov was pulled out of the corner, it seems that he is being prepared to replace Dima.
                      3. Yarosvet
                        +2
                        14 October 2013 17: 42
                        Quote: rolik
                        Everything is true, except for one thing - the presidential decree is a by-law and DOESN'T PASS THROUGH THOUGHT.

                        The President issues a decree, thereby determining the direction of the policy - the decree also specifies this direction.

                        The decree is binding.

                        For non-execution of the decree, the president has the opportunity to dismiss the previously appointed employee (in principle, he can do this without obvious violations on the part of the employee)

                        What is really?

                        In fact, not a single civil servant was injured.
                      4. Yarosvet
                        -2
                        14 October 2013 19: 22
                        Quote: rolik
                        What if there is an agreement between GDP and DAM that DAM retains the post of prime minister for the first presidential term of GDP ????
                        But what if the Martians replaced Putin and Medvedev ????

                        Because, as everyone has already seen this, the GDP clearly follows its promises
                        Yeah - especially the election laughing

                        Upon entering, for the first time, the presidency after EBN, he promised the latter that he would not touch his people
                        Suppose - why and why?

                        And indeed, for a long time did not touch. Then there were permutations, it didn’t reach the full expulsion from the government, but a dismissed (rearranged) person usually got a position that could not allow him to harm as before
                        I did not notice anything like it.

                        DAMS frankly mowing, mowing, mowing, but sitting in his chair
                        From the point of view of an ordinary citizen.

                        Well, all other countries need to show our moral character that the president and the prime minister are doing one thing
                        Does the "other countries" have intelligence, no agents and no analytical departments?

                        Although plush jambs are trying to fix subsequent decrees, or mitigate the effects of the iPhone
                        Dima's shoals that are revealingly correct are a trifle. Nobody fixes large "jambs".

                        No wonder Surkov was pulled out of the corner, it seems that he is being prepared to replace Dimochka.
                        What is the difference between Surkov and Medvedev?


                        Mdya ... The bottom line is that if you remove from the equation the unfounded hope that Vova has as its goal the well-being of the citizens of the country and put in its place the constantly confirmed fact that Putin is a logical continuation of EBNya - by itself there is no need to guess and build hypotheses, since there are no unknowns in the equation.
              2. +1
                14 October 2013 12: 58
                Russian_Prapor
                There is:


                You know, I usually don’t comment on these topics on this site, since emotions and slogans prevail over common sense and specific proposals -how sad


                Sergey, but this is already something and not inconceivable slogans, but for the ruin of everything and everything, whoever hit the wrong face

                let's try to make out

                1) Refusal of foreign labor.


                I don’t quite agree, the slave force is mainly from Asia, who works for a spear, sweeping streets and yards, you probably need to start with Dezov and other organizations, clean them and then try to hire Russian-speaking people or the Russian Federation, but you must agree that the profession is a janitor or a general laborer or a seller our, especially young people, are not very attracted — everyone wants to be Lawyers, Menchandisers, and so on — nobody wants to go behind the machine or drive the streets, to the same place you will agree how our population behaves — mountains of garbage and dirt on playgrounds, but go into your elevator at home and see what happened to him?
                Yes, you need to introduce a visa regime - and stop the huge flow, but still you can do without them - so a certain percentage is needed for those professions that are unpopular with the indigenous population

                Severe penalties for corrupt officials, including bribery in uniform

                I agree in part, but we must take it higher and do not dump everything on the Ministry of Internal Affairs, to which they twisted their hands (all kinds of human rights defenders, etc.)

                Deportation of all illegal immigrants.


                There is such a thing, it’s necessary to deport — only no one can do this — again blaming the Ministry of Internal Affairs — but the Ministry of Internal Affairs cannot deport since the FMS does it — in the best case, a fine is written out — the person throws it out and goes on, and collecting documents for a judicial decision is a big problem, the same thing happens with this decision
                probably it’s necessary, as in Europe, large separate departments and export to the border at the expense of the state

                Real public control over the activities of officials.

                I agree, but with reservations

                The bottom line is all this is mainly Asia! What to do with SEV CAUCASUS (by the cities of the Russian Federation), after all, problems come from them mainly? are you undeporting them?
                And this is a problem, not stupid national slogans to hang up and so on
                The main problem is the North Caucasus of the republic within the Russian Federation - what to do with them and how to deal with newcomers from there, no one can clearly tell
                1. +4
                  14 October 2013 14: 09
                  The last sketch is a demonstration video

                  1-0-10sec - crowd with frenzy pounce on the Asian guys and why so weak? you go to the Czechs on kaenna, pull out of the car and so on, have never seen such

                  2-pog of the shopping center - there non-Russians are working, I turn over the Gazelle and other cars, and whose they have grown, maybe this is the person’s nurse?

                  3 - take the food base by storm

                  This is called a pogrom and want to participate oh how many
                  1. -1
                    14 October 2013 16: 00
                    here is an interesting quote - from http://echo.msk.ru/blog/mmusaev/1176598-echo/

                    Yesterday in the Moscow park Troparevo-Nikulino found the mutilated body of the dentist Anastasia Nilova with traces of our death

                    That same evening in South Butovo, a company of football fans gathered at the house of their friend Alexei. They drank, hurt, chatted. As a result of the gatherings, for some reason unknown so far, one of the participants in the party had beaten the other two with something heavy.

                    A couple of days ago, on the Altufevskoe highway, a certain Evgeny Ivanov in a Honda car demolished a bus stop. Seeing the police, Ivanov tried to run away, but, either exhausted, or changing his mind, he entered into a fight with the cops. Later it turned out that Ivanov's car had been stolen, and that he had two pistols in his car.

                    At about the same time, in Moscow in the B2 club, a certain Arkady Berdnikov began to meet a certain Oksana Korchagina. The girl, apparently, was against it. Apparently, this did not stop Berdnikov. A defender was found, a quarrel occurred, which resulted in a fight. A knife went into action, and the case ended with the murder of Arkady Berdnikov
                    And now a few questions for the crowd who have committed atrocities in Biryulyovo, and for all those who support this crowd.

                    Why didn’t you react to any of the described atrocities so vividly as to the murder of Yegor Shcherbakov?

                    Why is Anastasia Nilova, Arkady Berdnikov, Alexei from Butovo, his friend and many other victims of crime in Moscow worse than Shcherbakov?

                    1. +3
                      14 October 2013 16: 07
                      A thousand times worse ... this is called - put the pig at the table, she and her legs on the table ... or in another way ... the above-mentioned is an intra-family incident, and we will figure it out at home ... and if you arrived on a visit (or even for permanent residence) behave in such a way that you don’t be ashamed of your people, and respect someone else’s .... And so we will reach the point that we, too, will find ourselves extreme in killing our aliens guys and rape our girls, Or not?
                      1. -2
                        14 October 2013 16: 56
                        the aforementioned by you is an intra-family incident, and we will figure it out at home ... and if you come to visit (or even for permanent residence) behave in such a way that you are not ashamed of your people, and respect someone else’s


                        What kind of intrafamily ?! I don't need such a family for nothing. Moreover, by supporting these "family" scumbags, you only stimulate their bacchanalia. And nerus will also answer within the framework of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
                    2. 0
                      14 October 2013 16: 07
                      A thousand times worse ... this is called - put the pig at the table, she and her legs on the table ... or in another way ... the above-mentioned is an intra-family incident, and we will figure it out at home ... and if you arrived on a visit (or even for permanent residence) behave in such a way that you don’t be ashamed of your people, and respect someone else’s .... And so we will reach the point that we, too, will find ourselves extreme in killing our aliens guys and rape our girls, Or not?
            2. goldfinger
              +2
              14 October 2013 16: 04
              Neighbor Belarus. There is! Lukashenko answered this question of your journalist at a press conference last Friday. Personal honesty of the president and his entire team (ministers, governors, etc.). All his ministers report with documents to him for every major purchase !!! And how will your Yakunin report for the fur store to his friend from the KGB?
              1. 0
                14 October 2013 16: 57
                Could the photo of that fur store?
                1. goldfinger
                  0
                  14 October 2013 18: 10
                  Quote: 31231
                  Could the photo of that fur store?

                  Type in Google "photo of a fur store", and hold on to anything, so as not to collapse!
                  1. 0
                    14 October 2013 21: 46
                    Yeah, you thought you were a serious person. And you live as demiators who sculpt all and sundry.
                    You did not try to study official data ?!
          2. 0
            14 October 2013 16: 49
            Quote: goldfinger
            Citizens are already tired that Russia is under the Caucasian yoke.


            You seem to be from Belarus, but speak for Russia. It’s strange.
            1. goldfinger
              +1
              14 October 2013 17: 49
              From Minsk. To paraphrase Roosevelt, we can say "When Russia sneezes, Belarus has pneumonia." (About the USA and Mexico). Whether you like it or not, we are allies. With an overabundance of bandits and Gaster you, according to the "law of communicating vessels", they will flow to us. It is better to fight this together. Although you have a lot, for us it is not considered "It is good", the main thing is total corruption.
              1. -1
                14 October 2013 21: 47
                I do not know. Here I’m not climbing to you with moralizing. For you have to deal with your monastery.
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    2. +12
      14 October 2013 08: 14
      Quote: svp67
      she herself can become ILLEGAL

      They need it now. And a savior will come in the person of PU. This is all Jewish tactics. They don’t need a united country.
      1. +22
        14 October 2013 08: 20
        to whom? what tactics? animals kill people thereby leading people to such actions - that’s the reason. and, as they said here, the weakness of power.
        What do you mean .... s?
        1. +4
          14 October 2013 08: 31
          Quote: Gleb
          animals kill people

          That's right. But who and how did it all come to this? And who brought it?
          1. +22
            14 October 2013 08: 35
            Quote: regin
            but who and how did all come to this? and who brought it?

            Our indifference to each other.
            1. Guun
              +14
              14 October 2013 11: 08
              You are right - if you stand up for each other in a mountain - for your nation, and this does not happen, even in the armies a couple of Caucasians (not everywhere) keep everyone in fear of the Russian guys and do not care for everyone. By the way, in our village Malovodnoye Chechens killed two guys - Kazakhs. But then there was a gross ethnic cleansing by Kazakhs of people of Caucasian nationality - law enforcement officers gave exactly one day to restore order to an angry crowd. Back in 2002, Caucasians shot an adult video with some kind of forgiveness and put it under the name We live in Kazakhstan and Kazakhs e-be-m - they cut out the entire village of Chechens without exception where they shot the video and seized their extra villages in a fever. And recent skirmishes in Astrakhan between Kazakhs and Chechens - Chechens got a hot head.
              1. +12
                14 October 2013 11: 32
                Guun, I agree with you, sometimes you have to act by not quite legal methods. I recently read Lukashenko’s interiorview of how he put things in order on the roads right after coming to power in 90's. On the gangster road Brest-Moscow gave the order to destroy the bandits on the spot. Well-armed employees rode in cool cars as bait. Three gangs were liquidated on the spot, the fourth was not. Since then, the roads of Belarus have been quiet and calm. We would have such a president.
                1. gladiatorakz
                  +7
                  14 October 2013 11: 44
                  Quote: sergey32
                  We would have such a president.

                  Is it the Union of Ukraine, Belarus, Russia and Kazakhstan? I think only because of such a president would Ukraine join the Customs Union,
              2. avt
                +7
                14 October 2013 11: 52
                Quote: Guun
                But then there was a gross ethnic cleansing by Kazakhs of people of Caucasian nationality - law enforcement officers gave exactly one day to restore order to an angry crowd.

                request Well, in this case, it is not for nothing that 282 were introduced and potsi corrupt with the same judges and understand. The guys in Ostankino did jogging with the slogan "Russian means sober" so guess from three times who first came and tied them up - "Caucasians" or policemen? And what was shown to them - playing sports in the wrong place, or extremism.
            2. Guun
              +3
              14 October 2013 11: 09
              You are right - if you stand up for each other in a mountain - for your nation, and this does not happen, even in the armies a couple of Caucasians (not everywhere) keep everyone in fear of the Russian guys and do not care for everyone. By the way, in our village Malovodnoye Chechens killed two guys - Kazakhs. But then there was a gross ethnic cleansing by Kazakhs of people of Caucasian nationality - law enforcement officers gave exactly one day to restore order to an angry crowd. Back in 2002, Caucasians shot an adult video with some kind of forgiveness and put it under the name We live in Kazakhstan and Kazakhs e-be-m - they cut out the entire village of Chechens without exception where they shot the video and seized their extra villages in a fever. And recent skirmishes in Astrakhan between Kazakhs and Chechens - Chechens got a hot head.
            3. +1
              14 October 2013 11: 22
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Our indifference to each other.

              Well, this is also a consequence of the competent policy of "Nasha", so to speak, the authorities. Kara Murza wrote about it intelligibly in "Manipulation of Consciousness".
            4. AK-47
              +12
              14 October 2013 12: 20
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Our indifference to each other.
            5. rolik
              +3
              14 October 2013 12: 53
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Our indifference to each other.

              Raised by a 20 year race for the dough. Money replaced conscience, mind, and honor, unfortunately. And this is an integral part of the bright path to a free - market economy. The economy, without state control (90s) when everyone was only his own friend and brother.
        2. -14
          14 October 2013 08: 54
          Quote: Gleb
          animals kill people thereby leading people to such actions

          Gleb, what kind of animals? A specific contingent lives in Biryulyovo. Most of them are former limiters and their descendants (first, maximum second generation), then migrants (a cheap area, wild and divorced from civilization. You can only get on buses or by train. Well and recently arrived (10 years) Muscovites, residents of the former five-story buildings. The lawlessness has always been there.
          1. +24
            14 October 2013 09: 25
            Quote: domokl
            what animals? In Biryulyovo, a specific contingent lives. Most are former limiters and their descendants


            And of course, these are third-class people for Muscovites. And immigrants limit the filth can be killed.
            1. 0
              14 October 2013 09: 37
              Quote: Vadivak
              , this is for Muscovites third-class people. And immigrants limit the filth can be killed.

              Don’t talk nonsense. Who wrote this? Second, third, twenty-fifth grade ... You simply do not own the situation. In Moscow, Muscovites are relics for a long time. Limita is a relic of the USSR.
              They always kill everyone, especially in Moscow.
              1. +9
                14 October 2013 09: 57
                Quote: domokl
                Who wrote this? Second, third, twenty-fifth grade ... You simply do not own the situation. In Moscow, Muscovites are relics of a long time ago. Limit is a relic of the USSR.


                You wrote, you won’t erase a word from a song. So rushing - I quote
                Quote: domokl
                The specific contingent lives in Biryulyovo. Most of them are former limiters and their descendants.
                1. 0
                  14 October 2013 10: 36
                  Quote: Vadivak

                  You wrote, you won’t erase a word from a song. So rushing - I quote
                  Quote: domokl
                  The specific contingent lives in Biryulyovo. Most of them are former limiters and their descendants.

                  And where is it about the second grade? Here is precisely the cause of the conflict.
                2. rolik
                  +5
                  14 October 2013 13: 01
                  Quote: Vadivak
                  You wrote, you won’t erase a word from a song. So rushing - I quote
                  Quote: domokl
                  The specific contingent lives in Biryulyovo. Most of them are former limiters and their descendants.

                  You know, in Arkhangelsk there are also a lot of children and grandchildren of former convicts. After the war and before the war, they referred here to prisoners' settlements (working at timber processing enterprises), plus a lot of zones in the region. And what, let's consider the residents of Arkhangelsk and the region as third-class people. But with blacks, our situation is not so acute, and they are not even asked to build mosques. The only thing celebrated every year at one of the stadiums is the Tatar Sabantuy. But I have not heard a single case of collision with the Tatars.
          2. New Russia
            +14
            14 October 2013 11: 32
            "A specific contingent lives in Biryulyovo. Most of them are former limiters and their descendants."
            What contingent? What are the limiters? There people live like us! If you think that in some other place in Russia people, if they are invited to a meeting or find out about it, will not run to wet the migrants and Caucasians, you live in your own world. There is no single nation with these and there will not be, that some people still hope through stupidity that the authorities who created this situation themselves and decide it for a short time, most already understand everything, and those who do not understand still understand the main thing, life cannot be changed and since this power will never change its mind its end is obvious
          3. Gennady1973
            +11
            14 October 2013 11: 53
            (a cheap area, wild and cut off from civilization. You can only get there by buses or trains). Who are you talking about now? are there second-class people? are you chosen in the center? if the capital is "wild" !!! what about us about the "provinces" you say ??? you have seen your tree of genealogy "limits" ??? MOSKVICH !!! the same as a football player from my grandmother, or do you have blue blood "princes" ???
          4. +6
            14 October 2013 13: 26
            Quote: domokl
            Gleb, what kind of animals? In Biryulyovo, a specific contingent lives. Most are former limiters and their descendants (first, maximum second generation)

            When they began to build Biryulyovo and Orekhovo-Borisovo, there, just settled the native Muscovites from the center, who were resettled from communal apartments. In the late 60s, early 70s, I had a lot of acquaintances, friends and relatives moved there. Later ZIL and AZLK households. the way they began to build houses there.
      2. +24
        14 October 2013 09: 16
        Quote: regin
        They don’t need a cohesive country.


        Who is united with? With the beast? with those who lived and live in our country as in the enemy rear? Show me a working gypsy - fooling around and drug trafficking in Tula have built a whole city behind a fence, that the authorities do not know about it? He knows, but he doesn’t do it because he is lured. So they got Biryulyovo. There will be more
    3. +45
      14 October 2013 08: 17
      The police department said that the riots in Biryulyovo were not provoked by local residents, but by rioters who came here.

      Riots are the result of stupid domestic policies of the authorities! The authorities are now making another mistake, initiating criminal proceedings against the Russians. Further blood will not be measured when a couple of million go out onto the streets. What kind of riot police will stop it.
      1. +15
        14 October 2013 08: 20
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        when a couple of millions will go to the streets

        The negative is getting younger, and this unbridled mass will no longer be stopped.
        1. +27
          14 October 2013 08: 37
          Quote: regin
          and this unbridled mass will no longer be stopped.

          It is possible to stop for now, if the authorities begin to load Caucasians into commodities and send them to their villages. But our government will not follow this. hi
          1. +5
            14 October 2013 08: 45
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            send them to their villages. But our government will not follow this

            And they, too, will not go for it. Everything is already neglected to the limit. Extreme and harsh measures are needed.
          2. +37
            14 October 2013 08: 49
            It’s going to go in commodities itself ....
            And migrants will make their way through the forests (THIS was already in Kondopoga)))
            For two days the police were not visible in the city (only Omon's cordons on the roads and flocks of "black women" with children making their way through the forest, away from Kondopoga .....
            If they try to "drown out the conflict", then the Power and the Police can start "smoking bamboo" .......

            Another interesting fact is that OMON was reluctant against the People (the bulk)))
            It was evident that "civilian clothes" had already been prepared on the strings))))))
            1. +11
              14 October 2013 09: 12
              Quote: Asgard
              Another interesting thing is that Omon behaved reluctantly against the People (the bulk))) It was evident that the "civilian clothes" were already prepared on the nycs)))))) [/ b]

              No one needs the attention of the crowd to spread to him, especially since they mostly agree with her.
              And I don’t think that fighters who spend 6 months a year in the Caucasus are so afraid of the crowd, most of whom were even afraid to join the army.
              The fact is that all the blood will then be hanged on them anyway, for their actions or inaction, and the authorities, as always, will remain on the sidelines.
              1. +14
                14 October 2013 09: 55
                Do not compare a business trip to the Caucasus and confrontation with several thousands of uncontrollable young people who, although they did not join the army, went to the basement, to the rocking chair, and to the pears. Not all young people drink and smoke, and I have seen others. And also do not forget that there is also an ideological moment — the majority of the people are for these young people, and support in this matter is not the last moment.
            2. gladiatorakz
              +4
              14 October 2013 11: 07
              Quote: Asgard
              Another interesting fact is that OMON was reluctant against the People (the bulk)))
              It was evident that "civilian clothes" had already been prepared on the strings))))))

              Yes, the riot police are mostly normal combat guys. But they themselves see what is happening, that’s not a desire to mate. Question: Do their eyes open earlier or will the authorities begin to replace them with Caucasians? )))
          3. GDP
            -13
            14 October 2013 09: 40
            The created tense situation in Moscow and negative feelings towards migrants are the result of inaction or inability to cope with the situation of the entire government - from the president to local self-government. An attempt to solve all interethnic issues at the expense of the tolerance of the Russian population can go sideways ...
            BUT! Do not forget.
            Caucasians are the same citizens of Russia as we are. Either we must separate the republics of the North Caucasus from Russia, or we must not tell them where to live ...
            Another thing is that nothing is being done in order to introduce them to a civilized culture and law-abiding.
            It is necessary to change the consciousness of all the Caucasian and Russian nations. So that the Caucasians themselves do not feel that they live in a hostile country and at the same time, that they live in accordance with the laws and customs of the territories in which they live ...
            The key to solving the problem is not nationalism, but internationalism! But it should be mutual, and not one-sided as it is now.

            Another point, if Russian citizens or foreigners move to a temporary residence in another national region, the authorities should have guarantees that they will be provided with all the necessary minimum. If they do not have such an opportunity not to allow them to move to other regions ... This should reduce crime among them by an order of magnitude ...
            1. rereture
              +28
              14 October 2013 09: 55
              How many Russians must die in order for a Caucasian to become civilized?
              The correct answer is everything.

              We are tired of watching that we are being humiliated, they are killing us, watch the news on the criminal chronicle, every third crime is Caucasians.
              Shooting in St. Petersburg - Caucasians.
              The murder of a guy in Pugachev Caucasians.
              Shooting on the track (this is every day) - Caucasians.

              Are you tired of yourself?
              1. 0
                14 October 2013 23: 14
                Quote: rereture
                Shooting in St. Petersburg - Caucasians.
                The murder of a guy in Pugachev Caucasians.
                Shooting on the track (this is every day) - Caucasians.


                When the Russians or something else do something similar, the media don’t write, nobody is interested. Happened and happened, and if they write, then no one is discussing.
                I do not condone the insolent children of the mountains, but in the criminal chronicle, events involving Caucasians and Asians provoke passions, all the rest, alas, are commonplace ...
                1. rereture
                  +2
                  14 October 2013 23: 54
                  When their own people do it, this is one thing, but when a Russian, God forbid, "a child of mountains" does something, then right away Article 282 of the Criminal Code "inciting ethnic hatred", and if a "presumptuous child of the mountains" kills a Russian, then "domestic murder" ...

                  Shooting in St. Petersburg - Caucasians.


                  Something I didn’t see the Russian guys come by car and, shouting "alah akbar", shot the nightclub.
            2. gladiatorakz
              +1
              14 October 2013 11: 09
              Quote: GDP
              Caucasians are the same citizens of Russia as we are. Either we must separate the republics of the North Caucasus from Russia, or we must not tell them where to live ...

              Only must indicate HOW to live!
              1. GDP
                +2
                14 October 2013 11: 33
                By itself. Laws should be the same for everyone. Everything should be decided in fairness - this is the main feature of our people.
                1. gladiatorakz
                  +3
                  14 October 2013 11: 49
                  Quote: GDP
                  By itself. Laws should be the same for everyone. Everything should be decided in fairness - this is the main feature of our people.

                  And why do you put an equal sign between law and justice? These are different things !!! The law that draws ... And justice is life in truth. So before the people and lived in truth. And in the Soul she stirs yet.
            3. +5
              14 October 2013 11: 14
              Quote: GDP
              Caucasians are the same citizens of Russia as we are. Either we must separate the republics of the North Caucasus from Russia, or we must not tell them where to live ...

              Stalin did not stop these "citizens of Russia" from settling all over Russia in 48 hours (Chechens). And there was friendship of peoples to the core. The Caucasians only understand strength
            4. Turtles
              +1
              14 October 2013 15: 11
              I believe that the situation can be resolved only by applying the principle that the law is the same for everyone. In this case, everything will be decided simply, you do not live by the law, you are welcome to the northern regions. Not a single criminal case can be let down, especially on the nationality of the perpetrator of the crime. For any person living in Russia or temporarily located on its territory, an unshakable rule must be set aside: either you live by law, or behind barbed wire, under the sights of automatic guards.
          4. +2
            14 October 2013 11: 14
            <<< Alexander Romanov
            It is still possible to stop if the authorities start loading Caucasians into commodity traders and send them to their auls, BUT our authorities will not go for it >>>
            All this will not solve the problem! All these are pawns or, in the jargon of the 90s, "infantry" which do not decide anything. The authorities need to start with those who stand behind this infantry, who steer it! Look - who is the owner of all these shopping centers, vegetable stores, markets and not only them. Now, if the authorities take HOW FOLLOWS behind the backs of all these owners of "Cherkizones", united in diasporas, which are essentially mafia roofs for all illegal migrant trash, and begin to check them for the legality of their possession of huge pieces of property in Moscow, then, for sure, they themselves will quickly and effectively put things in order among their fellow tribesmen and will do it faster than the Moscow police and riot police!
      2. +27
        14 October 2013 08: 29
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        What the hell riot police stop.

        "Bells" are already there. OMON ALREADY COULD NOT stop the "crowd", and in general it is high time to use the word "horde" in the sense of "irregular force". The "Horde" already has a "fighting", very close-knit and prepared for such battles "core", around which the "partisans" rally. She also very skillfully conducts propaganda ... As a result, I conclude that this is already a POWER, the only thing it is not clear is WHO is their LEADER? I am afraid that our "rotten power" is more and more creating conditions under which Russia begins to resemble Germany in the 20s and 30s ...
        1. Danilka
          -7
          14 October 2013 08: 56
          Do you have a parish of the new Fuhrer (Lenin) and his associates?
          1. -1
            14 October 2013 09: 40
            Quote: Danilka
            Do you have a parish of the new Fuhrer (Lenin) and his associates?

            Lenin and his associates, the first to Magadan!
            1. -3
              14 October 2013 10: 02
              Lenin was already exiled once, we know what came of it, right away at a cost.
        2. +21
          14 October 2013 09: 29
          Quote: svp67
          OMON ALREADY COULD NOT stop the "crowd


          Most likely did not want to. They probably also care.
          1. +14
            14 October 2013 10: 05
            Riot policemen are the same citizens and believe many of them are more nationalists than those who took to the streets of Biryulyovo.
            1. 0
              14 October 2013 19: 41
              Hello dear Maxim!

              You say that these are OMON officers, also citizens of the Russian Federation, and police and FSB officers.
              ................

              So why on the ORDER of the occupation authorities will they all OBEDIENTLY go to beat, intimidate and shoot at their own people ?!

              Where is the logic here?

              So it means to beat a pensioner who encourages his fellow citizens that dare to stand up against the rink of betrayal and treason, in your opinion, EXECUTION of official duty for the nth RUBLES (that is, for the INCREASED salary and pension).

              And to protect the city headman (embezzler of the city) from the wrath of these fellow citizens is also the performance of official duty !?

              Or maybe, all the same, the DUTY of a policeman, riot policeman, fighter of the BB, FSB eshnik- ALL THOSE PROTECT your people from the SALES AUTHORITIES, THIEVES and CHAIRS who live today, and who do not give a damn what will happen to its citizens in 5 or 10 years ?!

              What do you answer me, my rhetorical question is not at all?

              Because over the next 1-2 years, the answers to a similar question will have to be GIVEN ONCE or TIME to many people in uniform and without them (Ministry of Internal Affairs, VV, FSB, etc.) ...

              After all, in life there is a limit !!!
              ..................
              Is it only for the "fat cats" and the "steering" ones who have been drinking, it seems that the solution to any problem depends only on the thickness of the bundle of banknotes?

              And the old people say that it's good when you have money and can "pay for services and goods", but you still need something from YOU they wanted to accept !!!
              1. +2
                14 October 2013 20: 58
                Quote: michajlo
                Or maybe all the same the DUTY of a policeman, riot police, a fighter of the BB, FSB-eshnik- ALL THOSE PROTECT your people from the SALES AUTHORITY, THIEVES and CHAINS

                This is nothing more than demagogy. Their duty consists, briefly, in protecting the rule of law and protecting the constitutional order. In any country. Under any authority. Otherwise, chaos.
                PS To attentive readers, even of this brief article, it is clear on whose side the police are actually ...
                1. +2
                  14 October 2013 21: 50
                  When a murmur in a dark alley fucks you up or a car is stolen, Sherlock Homs will go and complain.
                  I am ashamed of such people. If only one of you tried on their problems. Just crap. But what’s the matter, so run to the police.
        3. +2
          14 October 2013 09: 42
          Quote: svp67
          "Bells" are already there. OMON ALREADY COULD NOT stop the "crowd", and in general it is high time to use the word "horde" in the sense of "irregular force". The "Horde" already has a "fighting", very close-knit and prepared for such battles "core", around which the "partisans" rally. She also very skillfully conducts propaganda ... As a result, I conclude that this is already a POWER, the only thing it is not clear is WHO is their LEADER?

          If, the crowd starts pogroms, for allegedly good purposes, and it can not be stopped at the beginning. Then in the future, all the strangers and their own will fall under pogroms.
          For justifying the crime of some, the crime of others is stupid.
        4. lexe
          0
          14 October 2013 16: 32
          I am afraid that our "rotten government" is creating more and more conditions under which Russia begins to resemble Germany in the 20s and 30s ...


          Yes, and anyone would not be a scribe.It would be better of course the king.
          The Russian people are the brain of the planet — its progress. And the world elite has long been addicted to progress — they are drug addicts in general. And the Russian people are its dose.What are we going to do with Narik-Heal?For their benefit, by the way ...
          And they won’t go to breaking the brain because progress is their god. So the Russian people are their overlord, and they know this ... And the Russian people are dearer to them than any people on the planet. However, they hide it very skillfully by imposing slavery on us.
          But they still did not understand that Russian geniuses did not think well in shackles, which means that their final goal by previous methods is not achievable.
          So give me back the Russian Empire... and maybe ... the Russian people will give you one of the planets. But you will die from a brain rupture, how to live and why to live.
      3. Danilka
        +9
        14 October 2013 08: 54
        The GUVD is such a police department ... the rioters are not a cause but a consequence!
      4. -10
        14 October 2013 09: 01
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        . Further blood will not be measured when a couple of millions go out onto the streets. What the hell is the riot police stopping.

        Hi SASh. You wrote the signature, I'm sorry. There will be nothing further. You forgot that it is Moscow. And Biryuleva is a cesspool. A cesspool is torn from Moscow. The activists will be transplanted and transplanted. That's all we passed in 1993 ...
        The security forces of Moscow can almost independently catch any speech. The riot police will call the extreme police from the nearest areas. And these are generally crazy .. Hatred of Muscovites, you know.
        The rest of the country again perceives these events as internal showdowns of snickering Muscovites and will not do anything at all.
        1. +9
          14 October 2013 09: 10
          Quote: domokl
          Activists will be caught and transplanted and that’s it.

          They will catch those who did not have time or could not hide, and this is usually someone from the "partisans" or "Makhnovists", the "horde" knows how to get away from such "sweeps" and "pull" their own from the "jail".
          A comrade, who had previously left the army in the police, complained that the "horde" clearly "works" better than the "police" and seems to have "its own people" at the top.
        2. +25
          14 October 2013 09: 27
          Quote: domokl
          Hate Muscovites, you understand.
          The rest of the country again perceives these events as internal showdowns of snickering Muscovites and will not do anything at all.

          You are lying, domocles. The province does not perceive it that way.
          We were brought in by the Uzbeks themselves. Four of them were abused that week to satisfy sexual needs, four of them were there. But they burst, a woman 36 years old, married. That same evening they were found and beaten, all in the hospital, two in in serious condition. The whole village knows who beat and for what, but the police did not even lift a finger.
          Muscovites' problems in this regard are close to us.
          Quote: svp67
          I am afraid that our "rotten government" is creating more and more conditions under which Russia begins to resemble Germany in the 20s and 30s ...

          But this is the scenario for next year. And as a result of the change of power in 2015-2016, especially given the stagnation of the economy and the onset of the crisis.
          1. -18
            14 October 2013 09: 44
            Quote: baltika-18
            You are lying, domocles. The province does not perceive it that way.

            Well, well ... And you ask those Muscovites who lived in Moscow in October 93. You can talk about anything now. And I say what I saw myself.
            Quote: baltika-18
            . The whole village knows who beat and for what, but the police did not even lift a finger.

            And how are you different from the lads of the 90s? With pride to write about lawlessness? And then to write, I want the laws to be implemented, I want me to live in a country where criminals are caught and imprisoned ... You’re the bandits yourself. The most real. your village.
            Why the hell are you laws and all the other nonsense? You yourself are quietly investigating. Do you have your own opera, trackers, executioners ...
            1. +16
              14 October 2013 10: 00
              Quote: domokl
              And how are you different from the lads of the 90s

              Quote: domokl
              ..You are the bandits yourself. The most real. The whole village is yours.

              And call it what you like. They showed who the boss is in the house and what you should behave decently. They now do not go out of the house where they live. But they used to rummage, they molested the young girls. But the youngsters are young, but then I’m sorry for adult men .
              1. -6
                14 October 2013 10: 42
                Quote: baltika-18
                And call it what you want. They showed who the owner of the house is and that they should behave decently.

                So they agreed. And what's next? Surely among the relatives of these half-killed there is at least one normal man. He will start to take revenge. And he will start right. Let not in your village, in another. But it will be exactly the same. And again, we’ll start yelling and are they killing?
                I myself can stand up for myself, but I have always been against lawlessness. There is already enough blood.
            2. 0
              14 October 2013 11: 05
              It is useless to explain to him. A person really does not understand what chaos and a herd of sheep are led by provocateurs and puppeteers. The rams will receive the timing, and the priests of Gapon will continue to call on the contacts to "sharpen their knives."
            3. +5
              14 October 2013 13: 49
              Quote: domokl
              What the hell do you need laws and all the other nonsense?

              Laws should be the same for everyone. But when in Russia they live more equal than equals ... And then the crowd boils.
              When they steal billions and sit under house arrest ...
              Or when a bag of potatoes (just from hunger and hopelessness) is planted in all severity ...
              Where is the justice of the law? ...
          2. +6
            14 October 2013 10: 35
            Quote: baltika-18
            but the police didn’t even lift a finger.

            sorry ... I could add such apricots from myself ...
            1. +6
              14 October 2013 11: 37
              Quote: military
              sorry ... I could add such apricots from myself ..

              The main thing that took the side of the indigenous population.
          3. 0
            14 October 2013 11: 02
            But this is the scenario for next year. And as a result of the change of power in 2015-2016, especially given the stagnation of the economy and the onset of the crisis.


            2011. Egypt. Mursik. Muslim brothers.

            Do you at least realize that you offer the same radical things ?!
            1. +2
              14 October 2013 14: 55
              Quote: 31231
              Do you at least realize that you offer the same radical things ?!

              I don’t propose, but suppose. I am not clairvoyant, maybe fortunately, or maybe unfortunately, but I consider this option most likely in the current situation in the country. Take off your pink glasses and look at the reality surrounding you, abstracting from the imposed opinion of those who hold power. .
              Wait a short time. Let's see who turns out to be right.
              1. -1
                14 October 2013 17: 04
                Take off your pink glasses and look at the reality surrounding you, abstracting from the imposed opinions of those holding power.


                And there are no other arguments ?! And then "take off your rose-colored glasses" and "the imposition of opinions by the authorities" somehow do not impress me. I am impressed by the growth of economic indicators in comparison with the 90s, the improvement in living standards, the decrease in emigration to the West, and the increase in the birth rate. Or do you need a revolution and new 90s or 20s of the last century?
                1. Yarosvet
                  +5
                  14 October 2013 18: 03
                  Quote: 31231
                  I am impressed by the growth of economic indicators compared to the 90s
                  And what indicators, acre of prices, are rising? And with what 90s do we compare - with the 93rd or the 99th?

                  improving living standards
                  WHERE? !!!

                  reduction of emigration to the West
                  Those who wanted and could have already left.

                  birth rate increase
                  In the country, or in the original Russian territories?

                  Or do you need a revolution and the new 90s or 20s of the last century?
                  How about simple compliance with the constitution?
                  1. 0
                    14 October 2013 22: 10
                    GDP: 93rd - less than 0,5 trillion.
                    2012 - 2 trillion.
                    unemployment: 93rd - about 6%
                    97th - about 12%
                    13th - 5,76%
                    fertility / mortality
                    Population: 11-year - just above zero.
                    12-year - profit of more than 10 thousand

                    What can I explain to you? Previously, the country borrowed money from the IMF, now it itself lends to many.
                    1. Yarosvet
                      +1
                      15 October 2013 15: 19
                      Quote: 31231
                      GDP: 93rd - less than 0,5 trillion.
                      2012 - 2 trillion
                      GDP - the market value of final goods and services, that is, the total SUM of concluded deals - what has increased, except for prices?

                      unemployment: 93rd - about 6%
                      97th - about 12%
                      13th - 5,76%
                      Has anyone correlated with the "natural" population decline?

                      fertility / mortality
                      Population: 11-year - just above zero.
                      12-year - profit of more than 10 thousand
                      For the period 79-89, there is a peak in fertility.
                      Look at the statistics for the regions - at the expense of whom there is an increase (the population of one Chechnya for the period 01-12 increased by more than 300 thousand).

                      What can I explain to you? Previously, the country borrowed money from the IMF, now it itself lends to many.
                      Since the 99th year, the price of oil has increased 10 times, the development of Western economies has led to an increase in energy consumption by 2 times.
                2. +2
                  15 October 2013 10: 11
                  Quote: 31231
                  I am impressed by the growth of economic indicators in comparison with the 90s, an improvement in living standards, a decrease in emigration to the West

                  Our ardently highly respected Prime Minister DAM himself recognizes the decline in the economic development of the country. And you say growth!
                  Now from personal observation: people began to buy less goods, only the most necessary, thanks to an uncontrollable increase in housing and communal services tariffs, etc. Salary growth has stopped, but prices are rising for everything.
                  And you say "improving the standard of living."
                  PS: Once in the USSR, economic growth was compared with growth in 1913. It may be enough to compare the current state of life with the 90s, then there were then 2000-2009, but there really was economic growth. And now the recession is most likely.
                  1. tverskoi77
                    +3
                    15 October 2013 12: 51
                    ... DAM Prime Minister himself recognizes the decline in the economic development of the country. And you say growth!

                    Gennady, don’t you know that some members of the forum are always trying to smooth out sharp corners. And when discussing topics that clearly reflect errors and inaction, corruption ... of the authorities, they are trying either to divert the discussion to another topic or correctly hush it up.
        3. +2
          14 October 2013 09: 31
          People are just bored of living an ordinary life ... everyone wants a show (look at the recordings, 70% of people filmed everything on phones), and here is such an excuse to go see the fights without rules, especially on weekends. It will not go further biryulyovo, but it will give a call to the authorities about migrants who really are embarrassed by the whole of Moscow.
          1. -1
            14 October 2013 11: 07
            The shopping center was burned down, the cars, "non-Russians" broke. You call it a show ?! And if these scumbags set fire to your car ?! Would they have smashed your head when you rushed into the analysis with them ?!
            Yeah. Give them a spectacle.
            1. +4
              14 October 2013 11: 14
              I had in mind the reason for the mass action, of course this is not normal, but the modern generation perceives it as an entertainment program (families with children, young couples) they do not know and do not remember what such actions lead to .... The reason for the lack of purpose is people, in another article already written many cannot answer why do we need the state now? government institutions in general? Complete inaction and only a complication of people's lives, a complete negative to any work of officials (even if it is positive).
              Yes, people now need only Bread (alcohol) and Spectacle (events that happened).
              Ps This is the real problem of the country, and what will happen after Putin leaves? The cultural layer is empty, one match about the change of power and hello return of the 90s. Many young people think that the 90s is a romantic time when the strong one gets everything from life (cars, grandmothers, heifers) but they don’t understand about the collapse of the country / murder / decline in cultural morality, etc. Yes, they don’t want to explain to them either. They look at the former participants of the 90s either oligarchs / big businessmen, or large-scale legitimate politicians who put the device on the law / people, and about the fact that 95% has been in the graves for 10 years already don't want to remember.
              1. New Russia
                +1
                14 October 2013 12: 53
                "the modern generation perceives this as an entertainment program (families with children, young couples"

                Nonsense, everyone came to a spontaneous rally against Cove and not in order to remove it.

                "Many young people think that the 90s is a romantic time when the strong gets everything from life (cars, grandmas, heifers)"

                Nonsense no one thinks so. And how much can you remember these 90s, except that the meager wages began to be paid and before they didn’t pay, there’s no difference, crime has become even worse because of the migrants.
                1. +3
                  14 October 2013 17: 29
                  Why drag children to a * spontaneous rally *? You don’t give your opinion for the general, if you look at the video from the scene of the incident, then there are crowds of people with mobile phones and other recording devices under the giggle and hooting with a smile on their face all take off and go behind the * skeleton * of the crowd, which consisted of aggressive young people who came it’s not clear where.
                2. +1
                  14 October 2013 22: 12
                  Nonsense, everyone came to a spontaneous rally against Cove and not in order to remove it.


                  At rallies, other people's property scumbags do not smash. This is a pogrom.
                3. 0
                  14 October 2013 23: 27
                  Quote: New Russia
                  Nonsense, everyone came to a spontaneous rally against Cove and not in order to remove it.

                  Part came, really at the rally, and with this part I completely agree. Unfortunately, this is sometimes the only way to stir up power.
                  The other part came to bomb, that is, to bomb.
                  Moreover, this part is no better than that of the Azeir-Bajan. Because give free rein and they will begin to kill worse than others. First, strangers, then their own, who do not think so, look askance and there will be a bunch of reasons. Moreover, this concerns not only our country, but also all other countries.
                  And the third part, it is stupid to shoot and put, no, on all kinds of pages, in order to prove your "creativity" ...
        4. +17
          14 October 2013 09: 34
          Quote: domokl
          The rest of the country again perceives these events as internal showdowns of snickering Muscovites and will not do anything at all.


          Snickering Muscovites do not beat immigrants. They are either their descendants themselves or live at their expense. And this case is a reaction to the murder of an innocent person, what is there incomprehensible ???
          1. 0
            14 October 2013 09: 53
            Quote: Vadivak
            Snickering Muscovites do not beat immigrants. They are either their descendants themselves or live at their expense.

            You already decide ... Muscovites beat or still closer to you the version of the Department of Internal Affairs of Moscow .. Type riot police came from somewhere and provoked lol And somehow it does not beat the comment with your others ...
          2. +1
            14 October 2013 12: 07
            Why are you Muscovites so stuck in the liver ?!
        5. The comment was deleted.
        6. +17
          14 October 2013 09: 45
          Quote: domokl
          Hello SAS. You wrote a sign, sorry

          Good San! I don’t really do not bullshit. They showed a meeting at Kolokoltsev, so there was not a word about Caucasians, but a bunch of words about drunk Russian provocateurs.
          Quote: domokl
          .You forgot that this is Moscow. And Biryuleva is a cesspool

          Now the matter is not in Moscow or Biryulyovo, now the point is that the Caucasians are insolent and people themselves already take to the streets and not only in Moscow.
          Cops all blame on the provocateurs, but there would be no problem, then no provocateur would have done anything.
          Quote: domokl
          The rest of the country again perceives these events as internal showdowns of snickering Muscovites

          Judging by the comments, he does not perceive at all. In every city there are such problems.
          1. +3
            14 October 2013 10: 04
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            .Shcha showed the meeting at Kolokoltsev, so there is not a word about Caucasians, but a bunch of words about drunk Russian provocateurs.

            But what about 120 detained Caucasians? This was announced in the morning. (But here I only know from TV, I was not specifically interested in it yet)
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Now the matter is not in Moscow or Biryulyovo, now the point is that Caucasians are insolent and people themselves take to the streets and not only to Moscow

            And why? You did not think? Why do Caucasians feel their strength in Russian cities? Yes, simply because they bought the administration, police, prosecutor's office. Remember the comments on the same site. They describe how three Caucasians beat the driver on the road. Moreover, with hatred of the Caucasians. But not a single one there wasn’t a Russian peasant to get out of the car with his mount and smash it in brazen faces. That’s why I’m writing, there’ll be no shit. They’ll catch a dozen guys who have fixed the cameras, put them all ... Well, the Diaspora will from theirs to the slaughter .. Type killer.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Judging by the comments, he does not perceive at all. In every city there are such problems.

            Here I am about the same thing ... Ponte, only ponte ... You know, like, if ... then I ... and so ... I read and grin sadly. The Russians crushed, oh crushed ...
          2. +6
            14 October 2013 10: 08
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            but if there was no problem, then no provocateur would do anything.


            That's it.

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            so there is not a word about Caucasians, but a bunch of words about drunk Russian provocateurs.


            The drunken Russian provocateurs would have been heading the GUVD, everything would have been, on the contrary
        7. +1
          14 October 2013 10: 48
          The rest of the country again perceives these events as internal showdowns of snickering Muscovites and will not do anything at all.


          I personally do not burn in any way to participate in the analysis of the Natsiks with non-Russians. The first frostbitten on their heads, and the second like wolves in a strange forest. To plant all the guilty and no indulgences in relation to nationality. Yes, the liberot will immediately cry "the Russians were not imprisoned for anything." Only when these frost-bitten Natsiks break anyone's head, then it can come to light that these are criminals, and the kings of Solomon.

          I do not like the calls of the crowd to "sharpen knives". Murica in Egypt, the same young scumbags radicals led.
    4. fklj
      +21
      14 October 2013 08: 23
      If the government doesn’t stop moving away from resolving the long-overdue issue, it may soon become ILLEGAL ...

      But there is only one solution - a suitcase, a station, a sunny village. Everything else is half measures
    5. +21
      14 October 2013 08: 33
      _Soon riot police and police will be headed by "other People", said Kolokoltsov))))
      As I understand it, the people showed that they are strong, they have no support in the government, even among the cops)))
      The next "riot" will begin the massacre (there was a pogrom)))
      Hot Autumn begins ......................................
      1. Danilka
        +4
        14 October 2013 08: 58
        Russian rebellion is terrible and merciless. Who said that?
        Other people? From the rearrangement, the amount does not change ...
      2. georg737577
        +4
        14 October 2013 10: 59
        ...- Soon riot police and the police will be headed by "other People", Kolokoltsov said ...

        That Caucasians and will lead. They have enough money. Then it will become quite interesting.
    6. Ruslan_F38
      +10
      14 October 2013 10: 07
      Our worthless, thieves power disrespectful of its citizens is disgusting.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        +5
        14 October 2013 14: 18
        That's how our cops work. This is how Caucasians behave, this is how they poison us in the open. And again, instead of the cops, simple guys decide questions, maybe from Biryulyovo ...
        1. -1
          14 October 2013 15: 32
          Ruslan_F38
          That's how our cops work. This is how Caucasians behave, this is how they poison us in the open


          Then Ostap suffered, we will analyze this video
          That's how our cops work

          The police are to blame for the fact that the spice was not listed in the table until September 16 of this year, and nothing was shining for the sellers of this foolishness — can ask a question to those who are adding the drugs to the table?

          This is how Caucasians behave, this is how they poison us in the open


          Lead? and who likes that they remove the cha, probably inappropriately buy this nonsense, right?

          And again, instead of the cops, simple guys decide questions, maybe from Biryulyovo ..


          Why didn’t they decide on the issue then? But ran away? if they stayed, they turned the kaenn, they would have turned up, etc. Here the Asian in ten is normal, in the order of things

          Yes, now for storing spice-article 228 p1 from September 16, 2013
    7. Skiff
      +4
      14 October 2013 10: 52
      On the eve of the acting Alexander Polovinka, chief of the Internal Affairs Directorate for the Southern Administrative District of the capital, said that information about the lack of information about the progress of the investigation about the murder of Yegor Shcherbakov to his relatives was only a cause for unrest.
      No comments......
    8. goldfinger
      +6
      14 October 2013 11: 32
      Quote: svp67
      If the government doesn’t stop moving away from resolving the long-overdue issue, it may soon become ILLEGAL ...

      The most paradoxical is that Putin does not support the introduction of a visa regime between the former republics and Russia. And across this border all rubbish climbs to you because of the far abroad through the holey borders of the Central Asian countries. In addition, he has a nostalgic dream of reviving what died back in 1991. His stupid reluctance to see emerging problems amid inter-ethnic hatred leads the country, in addition to economic collapse, to human tragedies. Power, not respected by the people and based on fear and repression, will fall sooner or later!
      1. goldfinger
        +3
        14 October 2013 22: 20
        Letter to the President.
        "Moscow's comsomolets".
        Mr. President, real unrest has occurred in the capital of your controlled Russia. If you want, the words "controlled by you" can be deleted. But if you want to remove the word "real", then we will not concede.

        Too much in our lives has become unreal. Political parties, peace in the Caucasus, happy residents of Sochi, some results of some elections ...

        Imitation (fake) captures more and more space, and it can not end in good. Recently, one man portrayed the president for four years. We were told that it was the light of reason. But in reality, he only increased the darkness (unsuccessfully manipulated time).
        Millions of civil servants have been militia-police for many years. She’s dressed better and better, her salary is bigger, her helmets are stronger, her batons are more modern - have we begun to feel better protected?
        The authorities are constantly talking about the real fight against corruption, but the “Serdyukov case” shows that this is not a fight, but an imitation, a phantom.
        You, Mr. President, have appointed a person who has portrayed the Secretary of Defense for five years. You have appointed another who represents the Minister of Culture. Hundreds more depict the parliament, the people elected ...
        Several million civil servants portray caring for the people. If this concern were real, the people would love officials, or at least respect. But the real feelings of people are completely different. And officials know this and hide from people.
        But endlessly, illusion cannot exist.
        When a phantom collides with reality, one of them collapses. It is generally accepted that it is always destroyed by a phantom. Alas, not right away. The phantom of building communism has been destroying reality for decades. And when it nevertheless collapsed, the reality crawled out from under the rubble completely ugly - in some places fascist, in some places Turkmen (politically), in some places thieves.
        On paper, migrants are labor. In reality, a threat. Residents of Russia believe that this is the biggest threat. There are even more migrants in America, but there it is a problem, not a threat. Why?
        Because we are not America. Mr. President, note the obvious difference. Russian radio stations around the clock every half hour report the dollar. US radio stations do not say a word about the ruble. The local police are just as radically different from ours.
        We are told: they say, migrants work in all civilized countries. Thus, we are, as it were, recorded in civilized ones. On the one hand, this is certainly true. Almost universal literacy, jeans (and not loincloths made from banana peels), three televisions in each apartment. On the screens, political spellcasters and sorcerers promise stability, order ...
        But, going out into the street, a person gets into reality. Unpleasant. Non-television. Hostile. A person behaves correctly (as taught), stands up for a girl, or for a child, or for his own dignity, and he is stabbed with a knife.
        But, indeed, not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. Although I'm not a fan of this newspaper.
    9. +2
      14 October 2013 15: 33
      Quote: svp67
      The outskirts of Moscow illegally opposed migrants.
      If the government doesn’t stop moving away from resolving the long-overdue issue, it may soon become ILLEGAL ...
      Zhenya (1) RU Today, 08:12 you have no idea what’s going on here :) All for the forceful solution of the issue, right up to the toughest, not a lot of oil and that’s all ....

      Hello everyone!

      Yes, already on Monday morning, the state Slovak radio (savoring * uki) talks about the pogroms in Moscow, and that they say (the police reinforced the outfits on Red Square and the Kremlin’s guards) ?! That there is truth to this, I do not know, but ...

      And now the flowers appeared ... angry fool

      And those few who have said for a long time that "the purposeful replacement of Russians by migrant workers from the Caucasus and Central Asia" is simply providing "Russian businessmen with non-Russian surnames with cheap slaves WITHOUT rights ", and a decrease in the level of salaries of Russians, how many hurray-patriots were called here? Remember also?
      Then the people who were talking about such a danger, even before the bonfire of the bacchanalia of the maddened crowd blazed, as they called it? (provocateurs, "with a swamp spirit", "shouting at the American embassy"). I have listened to such epithets more than once. I didn’t get away from this, I speak from myself, and not for the sake of profit.

      But also what to do now, when did the pogroms begin?

      Urgently employ young people without work, residents of Moscow and the outskirts, so that they do not wander around the streets, dens and pubs, But did you have work and responsibility for it? To restore clubs, gyms, stadiums (and not private "with a criminal trainer", but PUBLIC with concern for the education of young people and the organization of their free time).

      But it turns out that the "Soviet experience" of school, education, physical education and sports was not at all bad, it’s just everywhere there are a lot of “reformers / managers” instead of “perestroika”, the occupation authorities pushed into the authorities and governing bodies.

      And with all this, as a reaction of several hundred or a couple of thousands of Muscovites and people from the outskirts of the capital, to the already familiar "street murder" of a Russian guy by a native of the Caucasus or the SA, it was just a "bunch of fans to beat, break windows and valiant prowess show "(ie football fans + drunk + self-natziki).

      Since the "occupation power" by indulging in the "demand of cheap migrant slaves" itself CREATED a vacuum of power and legality.

      And it is quite logical that it will be FILLED by self-nominated Nazis, then there will be "street" and "district squads", and then, those who wear police uniforms and explosives will be glad if they return alive (run away) with "semi-military -action "against its own people ...

      Continuation # 2 >>>
    10. +2
      14 October 2013 15: 35
      Continuation # 2 >>>

      And besides everything, just imagine for a moment that in the evening on the street, YOUR son, nephew, grandson, to whom you prepared a present for his wedding, was killed ?!

      And then dear, for whom you will stand:

      - for power, which apart from TAXES and COLLECTIONS wants nothing from you, and you give it a damn,

      - or for some new self-proclaimed "defender of the people" with a mustache and shouting "z * g * ail!", and promising (to begin with, to gather supporters) that he is ready for you "and die himself" !?

      And then wonder where the "Hitlers" come from?

      And a little more for thought.

      It is only for now that hooligans and "lovers of massacre" have gathered, with words supported by DOMESTIC residents tired of the dominance of migrants.

      And just imagine that against the "police cordon" and "transport vehicles", the same crowd will be led and shown how to precisely and without unnecessary gestures "eliminate the enemy", our "Afghans and Chechens" !?
      And from the sidewalks they will be thanked and encouraged by pensioners, disabled people and adults with children ?!

      I mean the veterans of the military who "relished the taste of blood" and who, after they became disabled or "their roof went down," became a burden for their native state, which itself sent them to these wars. And which, fate threw out ON the_side_of_life.
      Everyone knows that after any war, people with disabilities remain, both physical and mental, and in our post-Soviet Union, what kind of power did you try to do with them?

      But the authorities would have to transfer more related thieves from the "Investigation" to "Witnesses", show the new Olympics and show off other "salon" and "Peterhof" fun there.

      And for the victims in the Far East, ordinary citizens collect help by SMS, money and other gifts.
    11. +1
      14 October 2013 19: 23
      Representatives of national diasporas immediately responded to the riots. The head of the Russian Migrant Federation, Muhammad Amin, appealed to them not to leave home. “In different areas of Moscow there may be attacks. Nationalists are very aggressive, ”he told Interfax. According to Mr. Amin, it is better for migrants and foreigners in general “not to walk and not to visit public places”. - Mlyn, the head of the federation noted aggressive nationalists, but about his Genghis Khan who are leading, it’s obvious that he doesn’t say goodies. Now the news broadcast has been detained by 1200 people speaking in the biryulevo - so what should we expect now that everybody chooses ... the eyes will come from there and cut us
      1. -2
        14 October 2013 22: 15
        held by 1200 people speaking in biryulevo


        Oh wei! Even 1200 ?! And what is not mulion ?! Has this "true" information been revealed to you in your contacts ?!
  2. Alikovo
    +13
    14 October 2013 08: 15
    Yesterday I saw this news on TV, in my head immediately flashed: for the murder of a local, cut 10 visitors.
    1. +17
      14 October 2013 08: 23
      Quote: Alikovo
      and killing a local, cut out 10 visitors.

      Guys, don’t be like animals ... but 10 rhinos should be planted on an ice floe and sent around the world ... I think it will be more humane.
    2. +23
      14 October 2013 08: 39
      Quote: Alikovo
      immediately flashed a head: for killing a local, cut 10 visitors.

      The entire Caucasian elite in the cars and on Magadan! Although what am I talking about when Georgian thieves in law in Moscow feel much better than in their native Georgia.
    3. Danilka
      0
      14 October 2013 09: 00
      SS methods ... survived ... but if the tumor goes like this, chemotherapy cannot be cured, you need to CUT !!
      1. +3
        14 October 2013 09: 46
        Quote: Danilka
        SS methods ... survived ..

        Who survived the people or power leads to this?
        1. gladiatorakz
          +4
          14 October 2013 11: 10
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Who survived the people or power leads to this?

          Both those and those. Power is its venality. The people are indifferent.
      2. KEKS44
        +8
        14 October 2013 11: 02
        Quote: Danilka
        SS methods ... survived ... but if the tumor goes like this, chemotherapy cannot be cured, you need to CUT !!

        Biryulevsky pogrom is not the best method of dealing with migrants. But with the complete inaction of the authorities, probably the most effective. If we get around the problem, we will wait for the fact that migrants will organize pogroms as in Europe. This is exactly n ... q will be!
    4. Danilka
      +1
      14 October 2013 09: 13
      Quote: domokl
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      . Further blood will not be measured when a couple of millions go out onto the streets. What the hell is the riot police stopping.

      Hi SASh. You wrote the signature, I'm sorry. There will be nothing further. You forgot that it is Moscow. And Biryuleva is a cesspool. A cesspool is torn from Moscow. The activists will be transplanted and transplanted. That's all we passed in 1993 ...
      The security forces of Moscow can almost independently catch any speech. The riot police will call the extreme police from the nearest areas. And these are generally crazy .. Hatred of Muscovites, you know.
      The rest of the country again perceives these events as internal showdowns of snickering Muscovites and will not do anything at all.

      so almost all the riots and roars will begin from the outskirts and lower classes of society
      1. +4
        14 October 2013 10: 46
        Quote: Danilka
        so almost all the riots and roars will begin from the outskirts and lower classes of society

        And how did the outskirts react? Read the comments. Outskirts of Moscow on a drum showdown. And revolutions always began in the capitals ... and ended .. Russia is stable because it combines two different worlds ... Capital cities and the country itself.
    5. 0
      14 October 2013 21: 43
      Quote: Alikovo
      Yesterday I saw this news on TV, in my head immediately flashed: for the murder of a local, cut 10 visitors.


      what But what do you propose to do when the local themselves were killed by the locals themselves? Maybe you’ll also put 10 in for this?
  3. +28
    14 October 2013 08: 16
    The head of the Federation of Migrants of Russia, Muhammad Amin, is what kind of animal belay
    1. yan
      +2
      14 October 2013 08: 19
      and this is the principle at the right time in the right place, if you can cut the dough on tolerasts why not
    2. Sewer
      +5
      14 October 2013 08: 25
      The beast is like a beast!
    3. +2
      14 October 2013 09: 20
      kafa, go to http://www.fmr.su/. See for yourself.
  4. Gennady1973
    +20
    14 October 2013 08: 17
    Once again, the authorities showed their helplessness. Again, a riot, not in the "province" but in the capital. How many more have to be killed to put things in order with migrants of all races and state workers?
    1. +1
      14 October 2013 08: 25
      Quote: Gennady1973
      How many more should be killed to bring order to migrants of all races and guest workers?

      Not much ... only the blood of those to whom they present tribute.
  5. yan
    +7
    14 October 2013 08: 18
    Abscesses break through the lack of an adequate policy in relation to migrants, and even multiplied by tolerance .... A system of qualifications (financial, settled, age), but whatever, but there must be restrictions for this flow
  6. +15
    14 October 2013 08: 18
    And this is just the beginning.
    1. +7
      14 October 2013 08: 24
      We don’t need such beginnings. Another revolution and we will have nothing left from RUSSIA!
      1. +13
        14 October 2013 08: 42
        Quote: krasin
        We don’t need such beginnings. Another revolution and we will have nothing left from RUSSIA!

        Then, what kind of banana does our power begin to move with its assholes, only after the next murder. Do you really need blood for change? All this was predicted earlier and two goals back on the site wrote that it would be so! The people want one thing, and the authorities act differently, what will be the result?
        1. +1
          14 October 2013 09: 19
          Answer: Putin's rating
          international politics positive
          domestic policy is negative

          Either the liberals are holding Putin "by the hand", or it is by design (he works as a security guard for them)
          And immediately remember Joseph Illarionovich, with nostalgia!
          1. +1
            14 October 2013 10: 19
            Who is Joseph Illarionovich?
          2. +3
            14 October 2013 10: 32
            I apologize!
            Vissarionovich
            Very old, bad became negative
          3. mamba
            0
            14 October 2013 10: 59
            Quote: krasin
            And immediately remember Joseph Illarionovich, with nostalgia!

            Maybe all the same, Vissarionycha? Do not be like the famous character from the movie "The Adventures of the Soldier Ivan Chonkin", the NKVD captain Afanasy Petrovich Milyaga, who interrogated "Comrade Stalin's father":
            And then a saving memory flashed in the captain's brain. If this is Stalin’s father, then it means that Stalin himself should be called Joseph Moiseevich. But his name is ... his name is ... Milyaga could not remember the patronymic of his beloved leader.
          4. +2
            14 October 2013 11: 06
            Quote: krasin
            Putin's rating
            international politics positive
            domestic policy is negative

            well, and what is the bottom line? ... a phenomenon or m *** ringing? ...
          5. 0
            14 October 2013 11: 52
            Quote: krasin
            And immediately remember Joseph Illarionovich, with nostalgia!

            maybe Joseph Vissarionovich all the same?
        2. +4
          14 October 2013 10: 57
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The people want one thing, and the authorities act differently, what will be the result?

          the result will be ... the question is different ... why Does the "people's" government act contrary to the wishes of the people? ... or is it not at all popular, but anti-popular? ...
        3. +1
          14 October 2013 13: 10
          Alexander, when a Russian visiting Kazakhstan commits a murder, he is simply condemned and no pogroms. Why do we have a post-ordinary domestic crime show with a "riot of the people" ?! And, as always, in the light of "Kontaktika" with their herds of "hamsters" and their puppeteers, the lawyers.
          Many even here without looking at the video of the exploits of hamsters consider them fighters with the authorities. Today they burn cars and shopping centers tomorrow, how will the rebels in Syria take up arms ?!
          Who benefits from chaos and srach in the Russian state ?!

          Who wants to say that these are adequate people and they are fighting the government legally?

          [media = http: // http: //youtu.be/y19mREBbNN4]
      2. +3
        14 October 2013 10: 31
        And so much is left not stolen, destroyed? Everywhere dominated by hucksters, thieves, bandits. Everything that is being built is being built on foreign loot, we don’t even own the gold reserves ... The authorities are doing everything to quietly transform Russia into a cattle-country with cattle-population. It is clear that it won’t be possible to legitimize s right away, so it’s not a problem - at first they’ll ruin medicine, education, the army, the birth rate ... and then you can choose what you like and where you want to enter it.
        1. -1
          14 October 2013 11: 45
          All that is being built is built on foreign loot


          And where is this nonsense ?! Or have prosralipolymers been added to the National Health ?!
      3. -3
        14 October 2013 11: 20
        Quote: krasin
        We don’t need such beginnings. Another revolution and we will have nothing left from RUSSIA!

        For me, this seems to me to be achieved by not washing so much, and these from the Caucasus are poisoned like dogs, taking advantage of their inadequacy in their assessments, in short, they must be crushed like swamps !!!
        1. New Russia
          +2
          14 October 2013 12: 56
          "these from the Caucasus are being hunted like dogs" Poor people all over the country hounded
          "In short, you need to crush them like swamp !!!" Whom to push? This is a common people and not liberals. I propose to crush people like you)))
          1. 0
            14 October 2013 15: 56
            Quote: New Russia
            "they are poisoned from the Caucasus like dogs"

            Poison in Russian, I’m talking about that! And you turned everything upside down!
  7. +30
    14 October 2013 08: 20
    Did not like the article. "... locals and young people who looked like football fans began to gather. They did not have any political symbols, flags or posters with them." If they don’t have anything, then they do not look like forfeits, but for citizens brought to the limit, everyone knows what.

    Here is a Russian
    with a shot head.
    For his part, the conflict
    was national
    With the opposite
    parties - household.
    Emelin wrote this poem about 7 years ago. The government, with migrants and people, is playing spools, so they played it out to Biryulev.
  8. Voskepar
    +11
    14 October 2013 08: 20
    Such a rebellion is necessary for many to sober up and behave normally, otherwise soon there will be nowhere to hide from migrants in Moscow.
    1. Danilka
      0
      14 October 2013 09: 16
      you're right ... but what should be the scale of the Schaub riot there raised their fifth points and do the job am .Although I think that 1 million will not be enough. If I'm wrong, correct
      1. +2
        14 October 2013 09: 47
        Quote: Danilka
        .Although I think that 1 million will not be enough. If I'm wrong, correct

        Enough and a million, but immediately in 5-6 cities. Then run into
  9. +11
    14 October 2013 08: 21
    I don’t understand - why is the issue with migrants stalled?
    the authorities lack courage: 1. to jam visitors, to bring them to order?
    2. Hard to cheer up our "businessmen" languishing with greed, paying such pennies that Russians will not work, and migrants will be happy?
    all this will end badly for both the authorities and the people ...
    1. Sewer
      +20
      14 October 2013 08: 26
      So power is businessmen! Do you think that they will punish themselves or something?
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    2. SIT
      +4
      14 October 2013 11: 46
      Quote: Silkway0026
      I don’t understand - why is the issue with migrants stalled?
      the authorities lack courage: 1. to jam visitors, to bring them to order?
      2. Hard to cheer up our "businessmen" languishing with greed, paying such pennies that Russians will not work, and migrants will be happy?
      all this will end badly for both the authorities and the people ...

      The turnover of the same vegetable base is up to 10 million per season. dollars a day. Of these, from 50% to 70% is black cash. For that kind of money in Moscow you can buy any power, at least the municipality, at least the police. Any quirks for your money ...
    3. New Russia
      +3
      14 October 2013 12: 06
      "I don’t understand why the issue with migrants stalls?
      the authorities do not have enough courage: 1. to push the visitors, bring them to order? "

      Vladimir Putin: We will not introduce a visa regime, we must not alienate the "allies"
      We will give them passports at our expense (straight line)
  10. Grigorich 1962
    +11
    14 October 2013 08: 22
    Riot police cannot solve these problems ..... they can only be drowned out for a while ..... but the boil only from this will become larger and someday it will explode even more. Biryulyovo once again showed how the inhabitants of Russian cities got the emigration policy of local authorities
  11. zevs379
    +22
    14 October 2013 08: 23
    Horsho OMON worked - well done !!!!!!!! Protected the poor migrants.
    And when will you protect us Russians?
    1. +18
      14 October 2013 08: 43
      Quote: zevs379
      And when will you protect us Russians?

      Never! We riot police protects national minorities.
  12. pinecone
    +13
    14 October 2013 08: 23
    It is immediately clear that the article is from the anti-Russian print organ of the comprador elite.
    1. Sewer
      +4
      14 October 2013 08: 27
      YES, the article rolls negative!
      1. +3
        14 October 2013 09: 11
        and on this issue are you seeing some kind of positive ?! Visa regime ... this is not much that our government can do, it will be positive!
        1. Sewer
          +6
          14 October 2013 09: 17
          Drive out all the migrants! And give their jobs to the Russians! That's all you need!
        2. +9
          14 October 2013 10: 10
          Quote: bodriy
          visa regime...it's that little what can our power do

          laughing This "little" Putin recently BANCHED laughing
          So, we continue to listen to his speeches about "scrapie" (a filthy word invented by him). We listen, see and ... draw conclusions ... WHO STILL HAVE NOT DONE!
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    2. -4
      14 October 2013 08: 59
      Quote: pinecone
      It is immediately clear that the article is from the anti-Russian print organ of the comprador elite.

      Here hamsters react aggressively to her dreaming to wash their paws in the blood!
      Yes, this Moscow hesitated with its bunch of neglected problems, which is spreading all over Russia. And someone cleverly manipulates this by clicking on pain points.
      1. zevs379
        +2
        14 October 2013 09: 25
        So it is necessary that the authorities themselves cut off these "pain points" and not bring them to sin am
      2. +7
        14 October 2013 09: 45
        Quote: olegff68
        Yes, this Moscow hesitated with its bunch of neglected problems, which is spreading all over Russia.

        Let +1 be a warning. Dear!
        For especially SMART from Tambov, Tambov news!
        http://w68.su/churki-sovsem-oborzeli-t71.html
        http://vireg.ru/churki-tantsuyut-i-strelyayut-u-kaiena-v-tambove
        http://www.msktambov.ru/news/gastarbajtery-nakormyat-tambovchan-uzbekskim-plovom

        /
        http://tambov.kp.ru/daily/26129/3021079/
        http://tambov.mk.ru/article/2013/08/07/896580-na-smenu-korennomu-naseleniyu-tamb

        ovschinyi-prihodyat-migrantyi.html

        WHAT?? DO YOU STILL DRAW ??? BRAINS INCLUDE ALREADY!
        THIS Crap ALL OVER THE COUNTRY!
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          1. sergey82
            +1
            14 October 2013 14: 32
            Only Moscow was once not controlled by a Muscovite, but only collective farmers, and Muscovites always worked as janitors and in production
  13. Sewer
    +21
    14 October 2013 08: 23
    "The outskirts of Moscow illegally opposed migrants"Just think about this phrase! We have lived, the Russians have already been declared illegal in their country! I would also like to note that as soon as the people rose to a just demand for punishment and putting things in order, all sorts of moral people quickly arrived among the people, who began to crumble everything around. , and the Jewish bloggers on Jewish sites began to write about the riot police taking away freedom fighters! It's a pity of course that the riot police and other security forces did not join the sane part of the people, which at the beginning behaved very adequately, and did not start a joint cleaning Birilyov from evil spirits! But there are pluses in everything, and in yesterday's event! The authorities had to work again! But it really does not understand that there are more riots like this, and that one day, they will turn into a huge fire? Or they are trying to achieve this “I’m sometimes inclined to think that this is exactly the case!
  14. ReifA
    +14
    14 October 2013 08: 25
    When the "democratic" government is inactive, the people themselves start solving problems.
  15. +6
    14 October 2013 08: 29
    Quote: Sewer
    The beast is like a beast!

    why not at home on a native palm tree or in a zoo cage am
    1. Sewer
      +8
      14 October 2013 08: 41
      Probably because managers like animals more than theirs!
  16. +17
    14 October 2013 08: 34
    Wow ... yourself. And I didn’t know that in my country, the Russian Federation, there is another Federation, of certain Russian migrants. Yes, even with his president. They survived, aphids ...
  17. +21
    14 October 2013 08: 39
    Good It’s a pity for the guy, a fond memory to him, he died like a real man - he defended the honor of his lady, and this is a ram in the back of a knife ... I have few words, and thanks to people! their decisions! The issue with migrants had to be solved yesterday!
  18. Troy
    +24
    14 October 2013 08: 44
    And this is only the beginning. We also have skirmishes in Siberia such that the cops close the entrances to the city. Riot police reluctantly acted, but they themselves were already sick of it with these animals. There are many normal people among the siloviki, and they also think.
    1. +15
      14 October 2013 08: 53
      Quote: Troy
      . There are many normal people among the siloviki, and they also think.

      Well, then the time is near. If Putin does not understand this now, then the Caucasians will begin to be cut out and very soon all over the country.
      1. +8
        14 October 2013 10: 09
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        then Caucasians will begin to be cut out and very soon all over the country.

        And then the issue of conquering the Caucasus for Russia will be resolved once and for all.
      2. 0
        14 October 2013 11: 29
        Alexander Romanov Well, then the time is already close. If Putin doesn’t understand it now, then Caucasians will begin to cut


        What are you talking about? Does your position interest me? Do you consider the Caucasus a part of Russia or not? or you for his separation and fencingThis question is important to me - I want to understand your position or these phrases is a slogan or program of action?



        Then what? And what will begin there in the North Caucasus republics? And why the hell we fought there for what
        1. +2
          14 October 2013 13: 57
          Quote: Rustam
          And why the heck we fought there for what

          So I want to understand what they fought for?
          Quote: Rustam
          Do you think the Caucasus is part of Russia or not

          I consider it to be a part of Russia.
          Quote: Rustam
          or you for his separation and fencing

          But you don’t need to separate anything, it’s just here on the territory of Russia that the representatives of the Caucasus are properly set up, and in the Caucasus they will hear it.
          Quote: Rustam
          and what will begin there in the North Caucasus republics?

          If the Russians run out of patience, then there will be trepidation in the republics.
          1. +2
            14 October 2013 15: 36
            Alexander Romanov

            I consider it to be a part of Russia.


            Which one is more specific?

            set the brains well for the representatives of the Caucasus


            These are all common phrases and nothing! more specifically how we will set, catch and cuthow did you say or what?
            1. -1
              14 October 2013 16: 03
              Quote: Rustam
              These are all common phrases and nothing! more specifically how we will correct,

              Many do not need to be straightened, just hang the heads of the enclaves with their eggs and they will cut out those who behave like this. This is for starters, and then the results will be seen.
        2. +4
          14 October 2013 14: 03
          They fought for the preservation of peace throughout the country, peace turned out to be relative there, but the war spread throughout the country, since these "peace-loving" lumps, heated by the West, are fighting with us everywhere. There is no longer any sense to endure them, either they or we, BUT! since we are at home, and they are not, then THEY must get out of here until they learn good behavior and respect for the nursing hand.
          These animals, and among them a huge number of good and sincerely kind and respected white crows, understand only strength, they perceive everything else as weakness. That is, if you do not beat him, then he hits you and all your surroundings. Another is not given unfortunately.
  19. +12
    14 October 2013 08: 44
    why wonder at the arrogance of migrants? Not so long ago, someone for a base in Asia himself promised even greater concessions to migrants. So they are already almost feeling themselves masters here.
  20. patriot2
    +13
    14 October 2013 08: 47
    Whoever sows the wind will reap the storm. Violence gives rise to rebellion. Those who shed a little blood will choke with big blood!
    These are the fruits of ill-conceived migration policies. It is possible to appeal to the reason of the indigenous population only when migrants stop in such numbers (legal and illegal) to climb into Russia and live in it according to their own, and not Russian laws. A simple person sees this every day, every hour. Only officials who do not want to solve migration issues in the interests of the peoples of the host country do not see it. We didn’t call them here! You were called - gentlemen in power!
  21. +8
    14 October 2013 08: 47
    yeah - everything goes to the point that soon and riot police will not help
    1. DuraLexSedLex.
      +7
      14 October 2013 10: 18
      It will help. The way the riot police behaved in Biryulyi, so to speak, was soft, very soft, he did not behave in any way, but could. Believe me, 500 "cosmonauts" with shields and rubber truncheons (as a rule, not ordinary, but not much longer), they will disperse a crowd of thousands to a well-known plant, everything will be used and special means and water cannons, the fact that they did not do this does not mean that they cannot do that.
      1. +3
        14 October 2013 11: 23
        these? ... these can! ... although one shouldn't "deify" them either ... they can, until the crowd has clubs and pieces of reinforcement in the hands of the crowd ...
        1. DuraLexSedLex.
          -1
          14 October 2013 13: 50
          Well, we are not preparing an act of "civil disobedience" after all ... but yes fittings ... the weapon of the proletariat is a brick, gasoline with engine oil in a compartment with silver powder, poured into a bottle. It's all good, while the special forces of the explosives on the armored personnel carrier with AK in hands he will not enter the city. THEN then everything will be quiet. I mean that the authorities can react harshly ... only she knows how to do this only in relation to the Russians and the indigenous, and they are afraid of Chechens / Dag / Ingush, exactly as well as immigrants from Central Asia. Therefore, if something PPC will be us, ordinary Russian citizens.
          1. +1
            14 October 2013 21: 06
            "COMRADE", apparently, decided to fight ON THE WRONG SIDE! Ordinary Russian citizens do not like such tricks ... Everyone knows who the real ENEMY is (obviously not OMON)!
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  22. +14
    14 October 2013 08: 48
    Hush did not work. It’s clear that the police are covering this whole monkey.
  23. +2
    14 October 2013 08: 48
    Hush did not work. It’s clear that the police are covering this whole monkey.
  24. +17
    14 October 2013 08: 48
    Quote: Troy
    We also have skirmishes in Siberia

    Last night I was at the market (fruits, vegetables,) I still thought - that there are not enough men among the traders, women and places are empty. In the evening I went online - both on, in Biryulyovo just begun. and they are already in the crevices, it already reaches them how it will end! When it comes to the government!
    1. +1
      14 October 2013 11: 27
      Quote: Bort Radist
      When it comes to the government!

      everything comes to a giraffe later ...
  25. Lech from our city
    +14
    14 October 2013 08: 50
    Well, the results of the Kremlin's tolerant policy regarding scumbags from the southern latitudes have again manifested themselves.
    The bandit is still free, and hundreds of people dissatisfied with this are sitting in the bullpen.

    NOT GOOD - it should be the other way around.
    Fat deuce Dame and Putin for such work.
    1. +7
      14 October 2013 11: 28
      Quote: Lech from our city
      Fat deuce Dame and Putin for such work.

      count ... or two ...
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  27. +9
    14 October 2013 08: 51
    People themselves begin to solve the problems of migration and will do it as they can, and if the authorities do not decide on harsh measures such as visa regime, deportation, deprivation of citizenship that is illegally obtained by imprisoning those who cover and cover these people. The people will begin to clean up themselves and after markets and bases, next in line are councils and ovds.
  28. both s69
    +10
    14 October 2013 08: 58
    They arrived, called! If it really flares up in Russia, it won't seem a little, I think, to anyone in the whole world! God forbid, a "Russian revolt - senseless and merciless" will begin. The authorities should immediately begin to pursue a coherent internal policy towards "people of Caucasian nationality" and migrants, otherwise the Russian peasant "will get off the stove and pick up the pitchfork" and then ... OMON "nervously smokes on the sidelines." There have already been such precedents in our history. All this is sad. sad
  29. ed65b
    +14
    14 October 2013 08: 58
    I wonder how many birulevs are needed so that the GDP finally understands it's time to put a barrier at the border. That fairy tales about the indestructible brotherhood of peoples are left in the past, while illiterate people who do not know either language or culture are coming to us, for the most part thanks to the local "kings of beasts" they have also been thrown back in the civilizational plan 100 years ago. And it is impossible to compare a Tajik 20-30 years ago with modern "rabble". I'm afraid this is just the beginning, but they said they warned.
    1. New Russia
      +6
      14 October 2013 12: 22
      "I wonder how many birulevs are needed so that GDP finally understands it's time to put a barrier on the border." Not at all. It seems to me that you yourself understand that Putler will never start dealing with either migration or corruption ... Moreover, he created the problem of migrants himself
    2. -1
      14 October 2013 17: 13
      Quote: ed65b
      I wonder how many birulevs are needed so that the GDP finally understands it's time to put a barrier on the border.


      So they stand on the border of Italy and America. Or have you never heard of their immigrants? And where do zapadentsi migrate in search of work?
  30. Jahn
    +16
    14 October 2013 09: 01
    what are you talking about nationalists? that means when they molest a girl and the guy defends him, it dies okay, the girl goes with the child you can molest her, this is all tolerance, and when people have risen, they are Nazis, but we’ll go so far, now we’ll be vegetable check when this circus will end. and we will come to everyone from the Asian and Transcaucasian republics I advise one suitcase, train station. train, village,
    1. +27
      14 October 2013 09: 08
      If a Russian kills-this is nationalism, if a Russian in his own city is hooliganism! Conclusion? The Russian rebellion is terrible, but everything goes to this.
      1. +4
        14 October 2013 09: 58
        This is the official position of the authorities.
      2. both s69
        +1
        14 October 2013 13: 04
        Quote: Marrying
        If a Russian kills-this is nationalism, if a Russian in his own city is hooliganism! Conclusion? The Russian rebellion is terrible, but everything goes to this.

        And the authorities continue to "chew snot", as always, however ...
        Maybe the GDP Olympiad just wants to be held "without unnecessary problems", and the "Caucasus" is taking advantage of the moment, so to speak? Who knows? I would like to hope that the government at least a little began to "screw up the screws" in relation to the well-known diaspora ... winked
    2. +8
      14 October 2013 09: 34
      For the most part, young people who have grown up on nationalist ideas "rebel", seeing the lawlessness that migrants are doing with the connivance of the authorities and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
      If the authorities do not solve the problem of migration, the people will solve it, since we can do it.
  31. +9
    14 October 2013 09: 11
    It is possible to stop all this, but the authorities now want to release everything on the brakes. She does not need a fire before and during the Olympiad. And after the Olympiad everything will begin, a showdown with blacks. And now, as they say, "it's troublesome."
    1. 0
      14 October 2013 11: 55
      Quote: buywol
      It is possible to stop all this, but the authorities now want to release everything on the brakes. She does not need a fire before and during the Olympiad. And after the Olympiad everything will begin, a showdown with blacks. And now, as they say, "it's troublesome."

      I read an article here, saying that after the Olympics, it will be the 37th year, and this supposedly not only concerns the black people.
  32. Sarus
    +13
    14 October 2013 09: 12
    I see one way out ... the death penalty ...
    The people are rebelling in my opinion for two reasons.
    1. Murderers can evade responsibility on "their own land". I do not think that Moscow investigators or the opera will go to villages, for example, to Dagestan or even to Tajikistan to look for the culprits. In no case do I want to say that the operas are lazy or something like that .. I just can't imagine how they will beat off the guilty from their relatives (for example, Moscow in the summer). and for what to try? 5 7 years old and he is free. Taking into account that the punishment of a citizen of another country can be done on his territory. That is, to the first station on their territory. and so I think an eye for an eye. You came to visit and killed .. If of course you are caught, then accept the punishment comparable to the crime.
    2. And the population was simply tired of everything ... I, too, feel unpleasant to watch how they are standing in hospitals. Like buses are full of them .. I am a Siberian in the 3rd generation .. My grandfather from the Urals came to the North Siberia oil industry in 50 years .. Of course, when here sn and good conditions go here everyone ... And where were you before when you were alone taiga.
  33. Sarus
    +1
    14 October 2013 09: 12
    I see one way out ... the death penalty ...
    The people are rebelling in my opinion for two reasons.
    1. Murderers can evade responsibility on "their own land". I do not think that Moscow investigators or the opera will go to villages, for example, to Dagestan or even to Tajikistan to look for the culprits. In no case do I want to say that the operas are lazy or something like that .. I just can't imagine how they will beat off the guilty from their relatives (for example, Moscow in the summer). and for what to try? 5 7 years old and he is free. Taking into account that the punishment of a citizen of another country can be done on his territory. That is, to the first station on their territory. and so I think an eye for an eye. You came to visit and killed .. If of course you are caught, then accept the punishment comparable to the crime.
    2. And the population was simply tired of everything ... I, too, feel unpleasant to watch how they are standing in hospitals. Like buses are full of them .. I am a Siberian in the 3rd generation .. My grandfather from the Urals came to the North Siberia oil industry in 50 years .. Of course, when here sn and good conditions go here everyone ... And where were you before when you were alone taiga.
  34. +3
    14 October 2013 09: 12
    On the one hand, it is good that people have begun to unite, on the other hand, such "forceful" actions are a "wake-up call" for the authorities.
  35. +9
    14 October 2013 09: 13
    In America, when self-appointed human rights defenders speak out in support of illegal immigrants, they are usually asked by normal people this question: "What part of the expression 'illegal immigrant' do not you understand?"
  36. vlad0
    +12
    14 October 2013 09: 15
    The old principle: if something happens, then someone needs it! Imagine that all the animals were thrown back to the villages, and the problem of migrants disappeared in Russia. This is after all the people and the officials will take over, and there for the government. Do they need it? So, most likely, the root cause of what is happening sits on the sidelines of the Kremlin. After all, such situations very much distract people from other, more important and problematic issues of politics, economics and the social sphere.
  37. +3
    14 October 2013 09: 15
    In power there is a part (large) of people "tied" to the west. Their money and children are there, and therefore their owners. The West needs chaos in Russia. Therefore, the Westernizers in power are fulfilling the order for the collapse of our country into separate, preferably warring, parts. The "Separate the Caucasus" brand is one of the key ones in this process, it is under this brand that programs for the import of "rhinos" from Asia and the Caucasus are carried out, it is under this brand that they "protect themselves", put pressure on the judges and the police to let them go unpunished. This is how they persecute people (not only Russians) and immediately throw in slogans about the disintegration of the country - "to separate something", etc.
  38. -12
    14 October 2013 09: 16
    In Moscow, several people die every day at the hands of criminals and crime has no nationality. Why did the Shcherbakov murder become so resonant? Russia has always been a tolerant and multinational state precisely because of this, such a vast territory still retains its state integrity. But obviously, some pro-Western forces, rooted in Moscow, are not happy with this, and they are trying to foment ethnic conflicts.
    1. +17
      14 October 2013 09: 28
      1. 70% of crimes in Moscow come from the Caucasus or visitors from Central Asia.
      2. It was tolerant only under the USSR, the Decembrists' slogans were to expel all non-Russians and ban Islam in Russia. Do you recall when it was?
      3. When you hear too much Russian on the streets, you understand what tolerance has led to. Yes, you do not need to go far, look at Europe.
      4. Russia has such borders because of conquests, and not because of tolerance!
      5. The President of Tatarstan has repeatedly mentioned the withdrawal, like Dagestan, and Chechnya, and Ingushetia, continue?
      6. The country's foreign policy is strong, but the domestic one is weak, which is not acceptable for our state.
      1. 0
        14 October 2013 16: 01
        Quote: Marrying
        1. 70% of crimes in Moscow come from the Caucasus or visitors from Central Asia.

        You need to start the pogroms with the Migration Police, which protects these migrants, otherwise you will only achieve the growth of bribes and the cost of fruits and vegetables.
        Quote: Marrying
        2. It was tolerant only under the USSR, the Decembrists' slogans were to expel all non-Russians and ban Islam in Russia. Do you recall when it was?

        The Decembrists eventually led to a revolution, and the revolution to a civil war and millions of victims, not counting repression. In the USSR, there was never any tolerance, there was the concept of a national minority for which special quotas were allocated for studying at universities out of competition, for positions of superiors, for prizes and awards!
        Quote: Marrying
        3. .. look at Europe

        Most of all in Europe, migrants from Russia are afraid that everyone is so eager to go there, since it is so bad there?
        Quote: Marrying
        4. Russia has such borders because of conquests, and not because of tolerance!

        Evil begets evil. This is the law of the universe, its foundation. Not a single enslaved people, when not reconciled to this situation, people cannot be enslaved, it can only be destroyed, which Stalin actually did.
        Quote: Marrying
        5. The President of Tatarstan has repeatedly mentioned the withdrawal, as well as ....

        These are the natural consequences of the concentration in Moscow of the financial elite, which milks the whole country, leaving crumbs in the regions. With such a policy, both Siberia and the Far East can leave Russia. They are stupidly tired of living in cold and hunger, with broken roads and mortality as in the 18th century.
        Quote: Marrying
        6. The country's foreign policy is strong, but the domestic one is weak ....

        Both politicians are weak. There is a single success in Syria and it remains to be seen how much Russia will cost. Look at how much the Russian budget costs on friendship with Chechnya and Dagestan. This is because they do not buy friends, as they are now trying to do with Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Belarus. Friendship is either there or not. But the reason is simple - most politicians are proteges of the oligarchs, for whom the budget is a tidbit.
      2. -1
        14 October 2013 17: 17
        1. 70% of crimes in Moscow come from the Caucasus or visitors from Central Asia.


        Can I have a good link? And then I somehow read that more than half of these crimes are associated with violation of migration laws. Simply put, illegal stay on the territory of the Russian Federation.

        5. The President of Tatarstan has repeatedly mentioned the withdrawal, like Dagestan, and Chechnya, and Ingushetia, continue?


        You can also link to this. And then I only heard this in the 90s. And our fool Rossel wanted to create the Ural Republic. Become a prince.
    2. +8
      14 October 2013 09: 28
      The murder of Shcherbakov is a spark from which a long-planned fire has flared up, and this fire will lead to a fire.
    3. +7
      14 October 2013 09: 54
      Quote: scientist
      crime has no nationality
      Oh well sad Probably because of this, thieves, legalists, reketirs, tweezers, etc. the criminal element is almost a third made up of Slavs, despite the fact that the total number of Slavs in the society is almost 90%.
    4. +1
      14 October 2013 10: 11
      Quote: scientist
      Russia has always been tolerant ...
      You do not accidentally confuse tolerance with tolerance?
    5. georg737577
      +4
      14 October 2013 11: 11
      Crime has a nationality! Stop hiding your head in the sand. It is necessary to act radically - this is a war, do not you understand? And the government should immediately take hostages from the Caucasian diasporas, the most respected representatives of the diaspora and their families. And to shoot 100 for killing a Russian: 1. Then they will like to live in peace in their native village ...
    6. AK-47
      +6
      14 October 2013 11: 39
      Quote: scientist
      Russia has always been tolerant and ...
  39. +9
    14 October 2013 09: 17
    Now at the "top" a discussion has begun on the creation of the MUNICIPAL POLICE, the whole MEDVEDIEVSKAYA REFORM of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is "the brightest cut",

    harmful to the STATE. The Ministry of Internal Affairs simply does not have enough forces and means to quickly respond to similar events ... So that citizens are prepared to PAY for the creation of the MUNICIPAL POLICE, it will be created and CONTAINED at the expense of the MUNICIPALITY BUDGET, so there will be many fines and tax lawsuits, very many .. .
    1. 0
      14 October 2013 10: 16
      "Democratizer" in a bag from Louis Vuiton - hmm, "Winnie the Pooh lives well in the world," that is, sorry, modest workers of the "democratizer" and a penalty receipt. Or a Chinese-made Vuiton?
  40. Jahn
    +19
    14 October 2013 09: 23
    The answer is, to expel all of the migration police, and to gain nationalist ideological one week of blacks will not be in Russia
  41. +7
    14 October 2013 09: 24
    When Sobyanin tried to call at this fruit base three years ago, they didn’t immediately let him in)) There is one more Cherkizon, they only sell vegetables and fruits. Such pogroms will be more frequent every day, the authorities will not be able to stop this if it does not change their attitude to to migrants.
  42. +2
    14 October 2013 09: 25
    Quote: Sewer
    So power is businessmen! Do you think that they will punish themselves or something?

    "The hand warms the hand!"
  43. Aubert
    +4
    14 October 2013 09: 29
    “We got it already, let them go to the aul”

    I subscribe to every word angry
  44. +2
    14 October 2013 09: 31
    The ringleaders were nationalists,

    That is why I do not mind their presence in political life in a minimal form, so that, as they say, crucian carp does not doze off. Although, if the government does not deal with this issue, it is not known what will happen (national politics and not nationalists).
  45. rereture
    +4
    14 October 2013 09: 32
    DON'T FORGET IT WAS NOT A MIGRANT, AND A NUMBER FROM THE CAUCASUS, Rather, ALL DAGESTAN OR A FREEDOM.
    So make your own conclusions.
    1. +3
      14 October 2013 09: 53
      Quote: rereture
      DON'T FORGET IT WAS NOT A MIGRANT, AND A NUMBER FROM THE CAUCASUS, Rather, ALL DAGESTAN OR A FREEDOM.

      But do migrants behave better? How many crimes are they committing?
      1. rereture
        +1
        14 October 2013 10: 02
        I’m not saying which is better, just many replace liquid with warm.
    2. DuraLexSedLex.
      -2
      14 October 2013 10: 31
      I’ll tell you a secret .. current TSSS, og?;) The Caucasus is big, there is still Georgia, Abkhazia, Ossetia (southern), Azerbaijan. Talk to no one 6.
      1. rereture
        0
        14 October 2013 15: 25
        You perfectly understood that I had in mind the republics that are part of the Russian Federation.
    3. Yarosvet
      +2
      14 October 2013 14: 58
      Quote: rereture
      DON'T FORGET IT WAS NOT A MIGRANT, AND A NUMBER FROM THE CAUCASUS, Rather, ALL DAGESTAN OR A FREEDOM.
      So make your own conclusions.
  46. +34
    14 October 2013 09: 33
    Quote: scientist
    In Moscow, several people die every day at the hands of criminals and crime has no nationality. Why did the Shcherbakov murder become so resonant? Russia has always been a tolerant and multinational state precisely because of this, such a vast territory still retains its state integrity. But obviously, some pro-Western forces, rooted in Moscow, are not happy with this, and they are trying to foment ethnic conflicts.

    Honestly, this phrase is annoying: "crime has no nationality."
    Here nationalism in Russia always has a nationality. For some reason he is always Russian, and no more. The same is fascism. One can only hear - "Russian fascism", but not a word about Caucasian or Jewish fascism.
    But crime or terrorism for some reason never have a nationality. Terrorism also has no religion, this is also a standard phrase.
    The media will probably say: "there was a murder on domestic soil, in response there were riots on national the soil. "So they will say. How to kill Russians is an everyday routine," crime has no nationality. "And as in response to something, so immediately" Russian fascism. "
    1. +8
      14 October 2013 10: 28
      Quote: Sour
      Honestly, this phrase is annoying: “crime has no nationality.” Here nationalism in Russia always has a nationality. For some reason he is always Russian, and no more.

      good Bravo for the whole comment !!! good hi
    2. both s69
      0
      14 October 2013 16: 29
      How to kill Russians is an everyday routine, "crime has no nationality." And as in response to something, so immediately "Russian fascism". How to kill Russians is an everyday routine, "crime has no nationality." And as in response to something, so immediately "Russian fascism".
      I agree to all 100 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ !!!
  47. DuraLexSedLex.
    +15
    14 October 2013 09: 34
    Dear morning forum users hi
    In Moscow, a national conflict has long matured, I do not need to say that all this is garbage. problemuneducated visitors, and arrogant, greedy for blood, leading a beastly way of life a lot. And every day there are not less, but more. The numbers say that more than half of all crimes committed in the capital and the metropolitan region are committed by visitors from other countries, republics and guests from ours, YES OUR (that is, our dzhigits living in our country), all the most beloved and most calm and tolerant in the world, the North Caucasus. All this happens, with the tacit consent of the authorities and the protection of the guilty: someone relatives came and bought, someone just agreed on the spot, but they didn’t look for anyone at all, there was little evidence, laziness ... This all naturally bothered the people and the next murder simply became a spark ... it boiled. And if the killer was not detained, the shortest time, the continuation of the banquet is secured.
    The question is what to do ... nothing, there's nothing to be done, the situation is at such a deep 5th point that only radical measures will help, but our gut is thin on it.
    Therefore, you can cut Russian-Allah allowed.
    By the way, about the birds, you can expect retaliatory pogroms from migrants and guests.
    1. DuraLexSedLex.
      +7
      14 October 2013 09: 42
      There is a solution, but this is not entirely legal (we cannot gather more than 3 without permission): the creation of volunteer squads, as necessary with weapons or non-lethal countermeasures (stun guns, batons, gas) and expanded powers to verify documents, and detention of suspicious persons. This practice is in the USA (not the best example, but ..) it works.
      If the authorities continue to chew snot, then it will be quite likely the appearance of a kind of red brigades that will not stand on ceremony with anyone ...
      1. DuraLexSedLex.
        0
        14 October 2013 11: 32
        "If the police are not in good shape, then the state is in the anus" (C)
  48. Ruslan_F38
    +20
    14 October 2013 09: 36
    The caustic tone of the authors of the article is not clear. The same caustic tone was in the comments of the media, for example, Irada Zeynalova at the first. People tired of the Caucasian demon are called drunk nationalists who succumbed to the provocations of their leaders staged illegal and illegal pogroms. Why insult and humiliate people like that? If the government is inactive, then sooner or later there will be pogroms and massacre, and our government that does not understand this, or maybe this is what it is achieving? People's patience burst and that’s all. And the statements of corrupt and worthless media, politicians, and security officials are insulting and disrespectful to their citizens. Disgusted by all this at heart.
    1. Ruslan_F38
      0
      14 October 2013 20: 54
      Last news: Deputy Mayor of Moscow: Riots in Biryulyovo were provoked by "a handful of frostbitten nationalists"
      MOSCOW, October 14. The riots in West Biryulyovo were provoked not by local residents, but by nationalist forces, said Moscow Deputy Mayor Alexander Gorbenko.
      "We are confident, and I think that investigative measures will officially confirm this, that yesterday's riots were provoked by extremely minded nationalist forces, because the civilian population behaved peacefully when meeting with the authorities," Gorbenko said at a press conference on Monday , Interfax reports.
      According to him, the relatives and friends of the deceased made a statement that they are categorically against inciting ethnic hatred.
      "The situation has shown that a sudden call of a handful of frostbitten nationalists can lead to such consequences. Thank God that the internal affairs bodies worked quickly and professionally," Gorbenko said.
      More details: http://www.rosbalt.ru/moscow/2013/10/14/1187645.html

      After such statements, I want to spit in the face of this deputy mayor - what a lie and cynicism!
  49. blake
    +5
    14 October 2013 09: 37
    These are only the first not even calls, calls.
  50. +7
    14 October 2013 09: 42
    PUTIN and MEDVEDEV do not give a damn about the order in Russia; the main thing for them to GAME is to conduct gas and oil under personal control. In which country of the world are the presidents
    Oil refineries also go to run oil pipelines with gas pipelines, but in no other
    Russia. In all likelihood, Mr. - Comrade - Barin Putin, BB is
    the owner of ROSNEFT as well as the whole of Russia, but a good owner is happy about the order in the family and why Putin is happy about it knows only HE and him -----.
  51. patriot2
    +2
    14 October 2013 09: 43
    Quote: vlad0
    So, most likely, the root cause of what is happening lies on the sidelines of the Kremlin.

    It seems this reason is called “Kadyrov’s brother” - guess what (the name of the GDP adviser who recently celebrated his birthday)...
    1. +1
      14 October 2013 10: 35
      I read a thread here on the mail.ru forum....
      And I don’t understand that everyone writes “Kobaev!” What kind of politician is that????
      It turns out that this is what the “advanced youth” calls the President))))
      Also, by the way, it’s a Caucasian surname.....
      1. +1
        14 October 2013 10: 39
        Since when did the surname KABAEV become purely Caucasian?
        1. +3
          14 October 2013 10: 54
          Last name Kabaev(NOT PURE)))) has a very interesting history of origin and belongs to the common type of ancient eastern surnames, originating from the Turkic nickname Kabay. Similar nicknames were given to a Slav, a person who had nothing to do with the Turks. The nickname usually related to some personal characteristics. (or FORMINATION)))) Later they got used to the nickname, and the descendants inherited it. As a rule, the original meaning of the word, which formed the basis of the nickname, was forgotten. .....

          Well, the Russian boys are taking revenge on him - Since he declared 2013 THE YEAR OF THE FAMILY and immediately got divorced and got lost))))))
          1. +1
            14 October 2013 13: 12
            Well, the fact that Asgard knows how to use a search engine will not surprise anyone. Anyone can find this information, but the question is the same. Why was it written Caucasian?
            At first it was Caucasian, now it is Turkic? But I can say that this is a Tatar surname, will I be right? Wouldn’t it be easier to immediately say that the origin is Turkic, but not specifically define the Caucasus?
            when copying information on the surname "Kabaev", Asgard for some reason did not highlight the rest:
            The surname Kabaev is of Turkic origin. Perhaps from the word “kabai” (bast cradle, cradle), preserved in the language of the Siberian (Altai) Tatars, or from the Tatar “kaba” (large, wide). The surname arose from a nickname associated with one of these words
            At the same time, the Altai people often used the word “kabai” in relation to a grave pit. Kizhinip kabayi, i.e. “The cradle of man” is what they called the funeral bed.
            since it would be more logical to say “Caucasian” or Tatar (or even better, Turkic)?
            1. 0
              14 October 2013 13: 30
              Oh Gleb, Caucasian in the sense of Asian)))
              And if the state is headed by an Imaginative man with the nickname “Kabaev”, then such a union will shine GRAVEMA(you dug this out yourself, draw the right conclusions, since our People grew up from the “cradle” and lullabies? 7522 years ago))))

              Yes, and this is already visible to the naked eye....
              И People just KABAEV will not speak)))))
              And even earlier, when He was the head of the Club in Germany, his nickname was “Mol”
              also indicative)))
              1. +2
                14 October 2013 13: 36
                )) Well, I don’t agree about the pit, although the events of the topic really make the heart beat faster
      2. +4
        14 October 2013 11: 38
        Quote: Asgard
        And I don’t understand that everyone writes “Kobaev!”

        A friend in the distant USSR went to visit relatives in Kyiv. I went to football. Oleg Blokhin had already finished playing football and was married to the famous gymnast Irina Deryugina. So far everything is fine from the stands everyone was shouting at Oleg, Blokhin, how he would screw up the whistle and - DERYUGIN!!!
  52. Bekas
    +9
    14 October 2013 09: 46
    Quote: domokl
    The rest of the country again perceives these events as internal showdowns of snickering Muscovites and will not do anything at all.


    This is exactly what you wrote. What snickering Muscovites, if they write here that Biryulyovo is a cesspool. And the country, by the way, for the most part supports the nationalists. Ask any worker, manager, driver, etc. how they feel about what is happening. And anyone will answer, the beast has become insolent, everything is being done correctly.
    1. +12
      14 October 2013 09: 56
      The point was that Muscovites are constantly saying that they got greedy, but what did they get greedy with? Because my parents and I grew up in Moscow? All I hear is reproaches...Moscow has hesitated...Moscow has gotten greedy...fucking Moscow, And I'm for TRANSFER capitals to the center of Russia, to develop the regions, and not expand the city, which in 20 years has turned into God knows what. I would like to buy an apartment for myself to live with my girlfriend, but I can’t, because a one-room apartment costs 10 in my area, 000 on the outskirts, and why should I pay such prices, for the fact that this is the capital , for the fact that this is one of the most expensive cities, but I didn’t give a shit about that, I want affordable housing, normal prices for food, normal prices for housing and communal services, I want young families to be able to live somewhere, then the question of the birth rate was not raised would be, but now everyone is betting on a career in order to somehow save up for an apartment and not live with their parents, and to give birth after 000, and if everything goes well......
      1. 0
        14 October 2013 10: 36
        Quote: Marrying
        I want affordable housing, normal prices for food, normal prices for housing and communal services, I want young families to be able to live somewhere, then the question of the birth rate wouldn’t be an issue, but now everyone is betting on a career in order to somehow save up for themselves apartment and not live with parents, and give birth after 40, and if everything went well

        Quote: V. Vysotsky
        where is the money, zing?
      2. DuraLexSedLex.
        +2
        14 October 2013 10: 40
        6 lyams is a lot, although if you rummage around you can find it cheaper, but the area is not close (((And so you are right. The capital is in Yekaterinburg or Novosibirsk, let them take all the migrants and Caucasians there... let’s listen to what they say later.
  53. Volkhov
    +1
    14 October 2013 09: 47
    This is an element of big politics - war leads to revolution, it just looks like this in a particular case.
    http://warfiles.ru/33449-damask-udar-iz-glubiny.html
  54. Sarus
    +10
    14 October 2013 09: 48
    What kind of pogroms on the part of migrants? They will now sit for a week somewhere in trailers of 40 people until their diaspora says... well, all the Russian brothers have calmed down, let's go to work... We have to work, otherwise our brothers want to eat in their offices.. No one will leave Moscow.. No one deported..
    Deportation for Moscow would be when there would be 4 5 trains full of migrants with bars on the windows with guards from the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.. and to the first station of their sunny homeland.. And what is the point of deporting 80 and even 100 people if the next day 1000 thousand or 5... It’s just that now the authorities will make a show.. they will catch some similar guy somewhere in the market.. or whom the diaspora will hand over.. they will give him 6 years.. and everyone will forget about this situation.. Now the authorities need to switch attention from themselves to the killer.. that's why Seryozhka said to find him quickly... Because they will search for him if it takes a month or two, who knows what real citizens will then demand... maybe the resignation of the mayor, the head of the prefecture or the heads of the Ministry of Internal Affairs... So I think today tomorrow they will catch some thread a guy who knows nothing... and everyone will calm down...
    PS
    I will vote in the presidential elections for any candidate if he promises to introduce a visa regime... Be it Navalny, or Zhirinovsky, or even Obama himself...
    1. +4
      14 October 2013 11: 25
      Promising does not mean getting married. At every election they make promises... and the crowd always believes those who promise more. Here is the result.
    2. SIT
      +3
      14 October 2013 12: 18
      Quote: Sarus
      No one will leave Moscow... No one will be deported

      Why spend public money? On the contrary, you can replenish the treasury. Illegal migrants were found at the facility - a million fine for each owner of the facility. Found again - automatic liquidation of the SRO's permit for the type of activity. Hiring migrants must be extremely unprofitable and risky. That’s actually all that is required from the authorities. But she does exactly the opposite, because... Migrants are a source of huge kickbacks. The same Pokrovskaya vegetable warehouse is 60% black cash, but look at a picture of Moscow on Google and see how many trucks there are. That’s millions of dollars from this base alone, and it’s not the only one in Moscow. The problem of migrants is not due to the powerlessness of the authorities, this problem is directly initiated by the authorities and all sorts of decriminalization raids are an imitation of vigorous activity.
  55. +8
    14 October 2013 09: 49
    But let the children of Our managers take a stroll around Biryulyovo in the evening and if they survive, they will probably tell their DADS a lot. And maybe something will change on the issue of migrants and the issue of weapons and self-defense.
  56. Ddhal
    +16
    14 October 2013 09: 51
    One of the options for a “bright” future...
  57. SAG
    +3
    14 October 2013 09: 51
    Well, it’s clear where the legs are coming from; the British BBC is most delighted with the pogroms!
    Actually, if they wanted to find the killer, they would first try to talk to the diasporas. But here the goal was different: pogroms and riots. And the typical tool is the Internet...
    The basis of Roman law - look for who benefits!
    1. DuraLexSedLex.
      +5
      14 October 2013 10: 10
      They started talking to the diasporas only when they started smashing) This is Russia...here, for the authorities to start working, they need to be kicked in the ass.)
    2. New Russia
      +4
      14 October 2013 12: 30
      “Well, it’s clear where the legs come from; the British BBC is most delighted with the pogroms!” Well, it has begun, the State Department is to blame!)
  58. largus886
    +7
    14 October 2013 09: 54
    Distribute Kalash rifles that have been sitting in warehouses and issue shooting licenses!!!!!!!!!!!!
  59. +12
    14 October 2013 10: 05
    The problem is purely corruption; 90% of gasters can be deported under current laws.
    Too many officials, police officers, and entrepreneurs rely on illegal immigrants to feed,
    Damn you will drive them away from this feeding trough, just disperse them.
    1. 0
      14 October 2013 11: 07
      Quote: ando_bor
      The problem is purely corruption, 90% of gasters can be deported under current laws

      The deportation of one illegal immigrant costs the state and you and me from 1 rubles!!! Both officials and the police are already screaming at the illegal immigrants - the special detention centers are packed to capacity, illegal immigrants are sitting in them for months, and often years, waiting for money to be allocated from the treasury for a ticket, and the state (WE), in addition to everything, is also feeding them all this time !!!
      1. +7
        14 October 2013 11: 59
        Quote: olegff68
        when the treasury allocates money for a ticket, and the state (WE), in addition to everything else, also feeds them all this time!!!

        what ticket?... what food?... fool
        illegal is illegal... no one invited him to Russia... only citizens, tourists and official migrants should have rights...
        talking about rights in relation to cockroaches not appropriate!...
        a freight car... and an armful of tops for the road... am
      2. georg737577
        0
        14 October 2013 20: 24
        How much does one PM cartridge cost the treasury?
    2. -1
      14 October 2013 11: 16
      Quote: ando_bor
      The problem is purely corruption; 90% of gasters can be deported under current laws.
      Too many officials, police officers, and entrepreneurs rely on illegal immigrants to feed,
      Damn you will drive them away from this feeding trough, just disperse them.


      Yes, you can’t drive them away from the feeding trough, but you can force higher authorities to listen to the people. How to do it? We have democracy and the people can choose: either hang those who are at the trough, or go to the mayor’s office in a peaceful and organized manner (without stupid pogroms) and demand the expulsion of migrants from their cities; in the event of a real mass protest of people, riot police will not help and the authorities will have to comply with the demands . And when trying to detain active protesters, massively make faces at the cops.
  60. ed65b
    +10
    14 October 2013 10: 12
    And what kind of demand can there be from diasporas if they brazenly pull their fellow tribesmen out of the cops by hook or by crook? After all, their business is not taken away from them; they are not prohibited from living a beautiful life. If they closed another business, for example, the Dagestani diaspora, then the “Moscow” dags themselves would drive the visitors away and send them home because they would know that any crime would seriously affect their well-being and they would sell their mother for money. so you only need to fight them with “financial means” and deprive them of income. Look how many “crazy” defenders have divorced, how they have climbed onto TV channels controlled by the liberals. How they are stupidly trying to blame everything on the nationalists. just like yesterday they turned the people into lummen, a drunken bunch of bulls. but looking at Moscowabad you yourself become a nationalist, how many crooked faces there are. It’s time to apply the article for carrying knives. start a great construction project in the north and drive all the criminals from the solar republics there.
  61. +7
    14 October 2013 10: 12
    The authorities cannot always avoid solving problems, the main of which is the lack of justice in society, the lack of people's internal politics, when a bunch of parasites live at the expense of the country while they are not subject to its laws. There is no trust in the authorities and the people are trying their best to restore order, there are certainly forces interested in using the released energy. The only way out here is to build a trusting relationship between the people and the authorities; if there was trust, no one would support a handful of rebels. And for this, 37 is needed not only for Kvachkov and Khabarov (which they did not deserve), but also for the rest of the high-profile figures.
  62. 0
    14 October 2013 10: 29
    And tomorrow is Kurbat Bayram. They will slaughter sheep... I wonder if this will be the last straw of the people's patience? And if not this, then what?
    1. New Russia
      +4
      14 October 2013 12: 31
      Most likely, they will be patient for another year, the credit of trust given by the people to Putin has not yet completely dried up, another year of “stability” and the stabilizer will come)
  63. +2
    14 October 2013 10: 30
    Quote: ale-x
    Who is Joseph Illarionovich?

    Double of Joseph Vissarionovich laughing
  64. +4
    14 October 2013 10: 35
    Eh, some people would think about the future. Of course, we can hush it up again, but it’s still better to start solving the problem with migrants and especially with visitors from the Caucasus, otherwise the people will decide for themselves and no special forces, no matter how tough they are, will help. Revolutions always begin with small, and since the authorities are fed up with everyone with their stupid inaction, and perhaps the next time some kid from the Caucasus slaughters a Russian, the lid will be completely ripped off the cauldron and heads will roll...
  65. +4
    14 October 2013 10: 39
    The reform of the police iPhone is beginning to bear fruit. They laid off not the snickering top of the cops, but ordinary patrol officers, and from the remaining ones they made guardsmen who herd herds of migrants and Caucasians, skimming loot from them and replenishing the pockets of their bosses. Just look at the big shots in police uniforms driving around the whole day in Moscow and what kind of cars would be at least a BMW 3ka or a Merin 200 and they didn’t care about traffic jams or riots on the street. They have one task: to collect the units and transfer the money to the higher ups and get your jackpot, the higher the rank and position, the higher your percentage.
    After all, even simple, but constant, universal checks of Caucasians and migrants on the street for the presence of weapons will already give good results. The traffic police almost does not react in any way to migrants driving around in cars with Baltic license plates, but these are also potential criminals, since they are hiding behind fake license plates.
    The pogroms in Biryulyovo are a consequence, and the cause is starting from the local DEZ, the Administration and the department of the Internal Affairs Directorate and higher up the chain, so the search for and punishing the perpetrators must first of all start from here, and not in the crowd of driven people.
    Kolokoltsev turned out to be the same chatterbox as Nurgaliev. Like some kind of thrashing, the markets begin to fluff, and no one needs everything else; in the region they don’t even twitch.
    AY, ZWAI, POLITSI (poems about the police)

    What is the essence of the reform, what will happen in the next few days?
    I'm sure the same rate will remain
    But before we paid them in rubles
    The police will have to pay in dollars!
    I wish I could hit them with a fire hose,
    Put a basin on the shard,
    Change Makarov to Colt,
    And call the UAZ a Jeep.
    Forward to new reforms, guys!!!
    Now the cops will be such sweethearts!!!
    And you will be bruised with a baton
    Under the stencil, like cool tattoos...
    Well, if your nerves really fail,
    That incident, according to the rate, will be in “euro”.
    But before you pay, first
    they will now count the rights.)))
    We've been accustomed to paying for everything for a long time,
    Recommending that we unite at the same time,
    But why not want, mother go,
    Pay for someone’s mistakes yourself!..
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  67. gladiatorakz
    +4
    14 October 2013 10: 45
    Yeah, there is also the Russian Spirit!!! Well done! There is not enough organization of pogroms and people's militias. In Moscow this is hardly possible anymore, but in small towns it is imperative to restore order. And only then in Moscow.
    1. -2
      14 October 2013 16: 15
      Look how happy some people are on Ukraine. They understand perfectly well that then a civil war will begin and Russia will fall apart, this will be the end. You rejoice early. In Russia there are two problems: fools and roads, but the former are not enough, and the roads have recently become much better.
      1. gladiatorakz
        0
        14 October 2013 20: 55
        Quote: scientist
        Look how happy some people in Ukraine are. They understand perfectly well that then a civil war will begin and Russia will fall apart, this will be the end. You rejoice early. In Russia there are two problems: fools and roads, but the former are not enough, and the roads have recently become much better.

        D.u.r.a.k is a person moving on his own, non-standard path to the goal. It's worse when you're stupid. When they come to him on earth, in black cities. They kill, rape, take away spheres of influence from the Russians. But he's on guard. He looks carefully towards Ukraine. ORT told him: there are enemies there, and the dark ones are ours, they are good. This is difficult to treat. By bloodletting.
        And healthy people who don’t want to live in shit put their own things in order.
  68. +7
    14 October 2013 10: 53
    The problem has two levels. The first is that the district administration and the local police clearly have some kind of profit from this base, and therefore they look at all problems carelessly. Accordingly, this cannot but irritate local residents and arouse in visitors a feeling of permissiveness due to the payment to the authorities.

    second, it seems to me that certain forces have quietly decided to realize their dreams of redistributing spheres of influence and crushing this base for themselves. fans have long been controlled by criminal authorities, and their desire to destroy the vegetable warehouse gives rise to certain thoughts in me personally.

    The decision is to release the district leadership from their positions and initiate criminal cases against them. conduct a total, real check of the market, or even better, close it. conduct an investigation against the organizers of the action, with subsequent conclusions. to restore order in Biryulyovo, which even in Soviet times was a marginal and far from safe area of ​​Moscow.
  69. +5
    14 October 2013 10: 57
    The main thing is not to start looking for switchmen in the West, they say everything is fine with us, it was the insidious US State Department that dropped out its agents by parachute at night, who began to incite unrest on the peacefully sleeping streets of Moscow, the Putin regime has already learned to shift the switches to the West, covering up its helplessness So it turns out that the West is to blame for everything, and the crowds of migrants on the streets of Russia are the work of the US State Department, which got them all the permits to work in Russia.
  70. +2
    14 October 2013 10: 59
    Shaigu quickly became the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs... Why has he already brought order to the Army? Now he needs to work in the police too!
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    2. New Russia
      +5
      14 October 2013 12: 37
      Oga) At one time he distributed 10000 AKs to Yeltsin’s men, for which he received a high rank, they are all the same in power there
  71. vkrav
    +3
    14 October 2013 11: 00
    And behind all this unrest they are looking for a killer?
  72. +6
    14 October 2013 11: 04
    At one time, Luzhkov and his comrades opened the floodgates of an uncontrolled flow of foreigners to Moscow, remember 10 or 15 years ago they cut off an Azerbaijani, so tens of thousands of his fellow tribesmen walked with the coffin almost throughout Moscow, already showing who is boss in Moscow! The problem lies in the plane of its AUTHORITY reluctance to deal with this problem and rampant corruption and venality to the diasporas, who bought most of the officials with their giblets! By the way, riot police also have wives and children walking the streets in the evening, and where is the guarantee that the next “animal” will not use a dagger!
  73. +17
    14 October 2013 11: 05
    The actions of the authorities:
    1) They shamefully covered themselves with a girl: they forced her to say that she did not want ethnic hatred.
    2) They tried to set the riot police on the people, but the riot police acted as softly as possible, which is not typical for them, which means they were, in general, on the side of the people’s gathering when they ensured order.
    3) As always, they got off with general, meaningless phrases: measures are being taken, the Vulcan 5 plan has been introduced, and similar meaningless nonsense.

    Results:
    1) The killer was not caught; instead, approximately 400 Russian people were detained.
    2) The people have had their say: we do not need visiting workers from other countries.
    3) The authorities remained deaf to the opinions and demands of the people, once again showing their true face, hostile towards the people.

    The conclusion is simple: lynching is the most effective justice. And we need to start not with migrants, but with the heads of administrations and other officials directly or indirectly guilty of rampant banditry, put them on stakes in front of the vegetable warehouse and attach signs to their necks with the inscription: “bandit accomplice, thief and bribe-taker.”
  74. +5
    14 October 2013 11: 05
    The authorities think that these are just pogroms. There is no shopping center and the base is a place that allows illegal immigrants to earn money and a place of income for owners from other republics, so the first thing the people did was to destroy this feeding trough. We need to remove the income component from these people who have come in large numbers to deprive them of the opportunity to make money here for you and me .And also to cleanse local authorities harshly, even cruelly. And to appoint a district police officer from the locals, and assistants from the locals so that they are responsible to their neighbors and friends. The owners of their house will not allow newcomers and will not cover up for those who come in large numbers.
  75. +3
    14 October 2013 11: 10
    "It all started peacefully...
    “Where are you sending the crowd? They’ve already started smashing cars!” - Mr. Potkin shouted at the head of the council, following the heated youth with his eyes."

    There will always be provocateurs in protest actions. Now the authorities will find those to blame among Russian nationalists. And for the authorities (I also mean the “policemen”) there is no need to solve any problems. Everything can be blamed on the “rebellion”. Everything can be left as is. And continue to make money on this.
  76. AK-47
    +15
    14 October 2013 11: 12
    Do not hire these animals, do not buy anything from them, do not sell, do not rent out apartments, do not help, etc. This, I am not afraid of this word, is the duty of every normal person.
    If you want to communicate with animals, go ahead to them, to the menagerie, to their beautiful countries, which, having slaughtered the Russians, they turned into a trash heap.
  77. +13
    14 October 2013 11: 16
    Oddly enough, I am generally for the Russians. This is their country and their business is to defend their national interests.
    1. -1
      14 October 2013 11: 59
      "Muscovites", as usual, exaggerate the significance of the events taking place in "their" city. Very little time will pass about this incident, if not forgotten, then the acuity of perception will fade away. A lot of things have already happened on THIS topic and in other places. Another spontaneous, or not very, incident on THIS topic only confirms the “diagnosis”. Similar events took place, and most likely will continue to take place, in Paris, and in London, and in Moscow, and in Kondopoga, and in Muhaska - in any place where there are contradictions between the “newcomers” and the “indigenous population” in that or other soil.The question of whether a “multicultural” society without conflicts in the “acute phase” is possible in principle remains open.
    2. Kazakh
      -1
      14 October 2013 22: 07
      But in vain. The most difficult years for Kazakhs were the early 70s of the 20th century. Then the population of Kazakhstan was 15 million and of them there were only 5 million Kazakhs, and there were 10 million Slavs. And the Slavs greatly offended the Kazakhs. This is me showing tolerance and not writing as it really happened. And as soon as the Kazakhs fooled the Russians, we were immediately called national people. What is happening is normal. In Russian it will be - the mouse's tears will flow to the cat. I wish Russians to be as “brave and brave” as they have been for centuries. Beat the Asians, the Caucasians will hit you for it.
  78. patriot2
    +4
    14 October 2013 11: 30
    Quote: olegff68
    Often illegal immigrants sit for years and wait for money to be allocated from the treasury for a ticket, and the state (WE), in addition to everything else, also feeds them all this time!!!

    Why do illegal immigrants need legs? Under the Tsar, they went to Siberia on foot. And these “guests” - on foot to the border and to their homeland. It will be cheaper: in columns, under Kalash and on foot - home to the village. During the time that they sit with us and eat along the way, they could build roads in Russia, after all, feeding costs money. Isn’t it this “road map” that the Duma members are now concerned about? If not, then life will improve greatly for them; they won’t have to wait long.
    It's time to start respecting your people, which some consider sheep!
  79. -1
    14 October 2013 11: 35
    Tsar Peas stole, Tsar Ivan stole.
    And then he gave out daughters to the cops.
    It went to the kings, it went to the cops.
    And after the cops, it remained for us.

    Steal, steal, Russia!
    And then you’ll disappear.
    Steal, steal, Russia!
    You won’t steal everything.

    We don’t take it, but any
    It sticks to playful hands.
    We are good - not good, but what took, then in the suit.
    For whatever power, we would only steal.

    Steal, steal, Russia!
    And then you’ll disappear.
    Steal, steal, Russia!
    You won’t steal everything.

    Then he’s godfather to someone, he’s brother-in-law to someone,
    He is such a man, he cannot but take.
    Tsar Peas stole, Tsar Ivan stole.
    And for my ass, but I’ve felled.

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  81. +11
    14 October 2013 11: 38
    By the way, our “human rights activist” Lyudmila Alekseeva already noted yesterday and said that beating a person for another nationality is the Middle Ages... They are beaten not for their nationality, but for their unclean habits, for setting up villages in modern cities, for their unwillingness to behave respectfully towards to the indigenous population...By the way, it would be nice to find out who is bringing these wild hordes to us? They should also be put in jail somewhere for the sake of ostracism... It would be nice to publish lists of bribe-taking and corrupt cops...
    I saw a picture at the Moskovsky station in Nizhny Novgorod, a man was robbed, he turns to the cops, and they say that the criminal fled to the territory of another district and he is beyond their competence... Disgraceful... At the same time, as many as three cops at the magazine at the counter they look at a car magazine and choose new cars to buy from it... This is how our valiant police work in some places...
  82. +4
    14 October 2013 11: 45
    We don’t have to provide Muscovites with work. We need to invest money in Russia, not Moscow. There is no more idiotic demographic situation than in Russia. Even in China, 20% of the population of small Russia (two cubits on the map) lives in Moscow and the Moscow region. Yes, there are as many minrants ...
    ----------------------------------
    Golden words...I always say this too...Why is everyone focused on Moscow? In Russia, there are so many places that need to be settled and populated, and everything goes to Moscow... Even during perestroika there were shouts: “Give us decentralization! Down with the dominance of the center!” So what? Again, like Turkmen sheep, they rested against this same center, and even cemented the corruption vertical for it... First the Vietnamese worked on one ZiL, then now in Moscow and the region there are more foreigners than potatoes in the fall...
    1. +5
      14 October 2013 11: 59
      It’s just that Moscow must again become a regime city. In addition, for better control it is necessary to revive registration and nationality (in the passport). I am not against Russian citizens who come to work in Moscow, but foreigners have nothing to do with us, we are against foreign labor. I wonder if Sobyanin is the mayor or the enemy of the people? If he is the mayor, then he will listen to the indigenous population and clear Moscow of illegal immigrants; if he is an enemy, then everything will remain as it was.
      1. 0
        14 October 2013 13: 09
        Quote: Russkiy_Prapor
        I wonder if Sobyanin is the mayor or the enemy of the people? If he is the mayor, then he will listen to the indigenous population and clear Moscow of illegal immigrants; if he is an enemy, then everything will remain as it was.

        he is Putin's henchman...
        "neither friend nor enemy, but... so..."
        1. New Russia
          +1
          14 October 2013 13: 27
          “he is Putin’s protege...” Not just a protege, but the one who arranged early elections in order to get elected before Putin’s collapse and fenced himself off from United Russia.
          1. +3
            14 October 2013 13: 38
            Over the course of twenty years, the crap that came to power has settled down, stratified into factions... but has not lost its essence...
            shit can't be either good or bad... it can only be shit...
        2. +3
          14 October 2013 13: 32
          He is a reindeer herder))))))
          I was recently in the Moscow City Hall, and the officials there called him names...
          1. +3
            14 October 2013 13: 51
            Quote: Asgard
            He is a reindeer herder))))))Recently I was in the Moscow City Hall, and the officials there themselves call him names....

            that's another thing... his "patronus" breeds rabbits... nationwide... wink
  83. +9
    14 October 2013 11: 45
    To solve the problem with the Caucasus forever, political will and one hundred thousand tons of napalm are needed. It's my personal opinion.
  84. +6
    14 October 2013 11: 54
    The authorities will always be on the side of the chocks. And the logic here is simple: power under capitalism serves only the interests of capital and owners. Migrant lumps are the main labor force that brings fabulous income to their capitalist owners and is very convenient for them and the state bureaucracy, like undemanding draft animals that do not need high pay, labor protection, benefits, social guarantees, on the one hand, and on the other hand, Migrants lower the bar on wages and social benefits. guarantees for local residents, making them compete. If you “pinch” migrants, then they will be “thrown” back to their homes and it will be necessary to replace them with the local population, which is extremely unprofitable for “entrepreneurs” - capitalists and government officials. And if you “pinch” the local population, then it’s okay - you can generally transfer all the locals to prison and recruit new migrants in their place, that’s all. So, nothing personal, just capitalism.
  85. +3
    14 October 2013 11: 55
    Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
    I’ll tell you a secret .. current TSSS, og?;) The Caucasus is big, there is still Georgia, Abkhazia, Ossetia (southern), Azerbaijan. Talk to no one 6.

    Open the secret wider - Russian Caucasus: Adygea, Karachay-Cherkessia, Kabardino-Balkaria, North Ossetia, Chechnya, Ingushetia, Dagestan.
    Transcaucasia: Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, South Ossetia, Abkhazia.
  86. +2
    14 October 2013 11: 57
    Meanwhile;
    According to the Russian News Service, several armored cars drove along the Third Transport Ring in the Luzhniki area. At the moment they headed towards the Warsaw highway. In addition, 2 more armored personnel carriers drove along the Zvenigorod highway towards the center.
    Earlier, information appeared that dozens of migrants were running towards the vegetable warehouse in Biryulyovo, trying to get there before the police appeared.

    http://www.dni.ru/news/2013/10/14/261819.html

    On the way, they decided to carry out the cleanup on an adult basis...
  87. +4
    14 October 2013 11: 57
    I personally don’t really like him, but this comrade commented on these events quite accurately
  88. +1
    14 October 2013 12: 00
    Quote: domokl
    Quote: Marrying
    please do not talk nonsense if you do not know the whole situation.

    Eugene, I know the situation and will be responsible for Alexander. Moreover, I know not Grandfather’s words, but as a person who really did this recently in Novogireevo. Really, why is Grandfather UK? For janitors there are a lot of additional work that your grandfather will never do. You want an example ? Sobyanin leaves on okrugs on Saturdays to see what and how. Moreover, he never tells the exact route. Local officials, having learned that he is going to their okrug, drive everyone and everyone out onto the streets to bring gloss. The chair is a pity. And these janitors work not only during working hours, but all night. Would your grandfather have worked? Yes, never.
    And then. You go to work at 7 in the morning. Is your porch clean? Clean. There are no beer bottles, no gobies ... Because the migrant works from 5 in the morning and all day. For a penny by Moscow standards.

    What do migrants have to do with it? The janitors always got up at five, or even earlier. In all the surrounding houses, I have locals and elderly people working there, including.
  89. +9
    14 October 2013 12: 00
    Everything is debatable. As a person, I am completely and completely on the side of people who are boiling, who are tired of the medieval morals of our “friends” from Central Asia and the Caucasus. But as a citizen of a multinational country, I understand that such speeches play into the hands of our enemies and not serve to strengthen our statehood.
    The authorities were warned and did this more than once. They were told that if you don’t deal with this problem, then the problem will deal with you. Well, we don’t want to live in the same city with these wild people who don’t value human life at all. Our mentality is different. But if their presence in our city is so necessary, which I personally very much doubt, then teach them to live among people who do not share the values ​​of their upbringing. Be responsible for them, keep an eye on them.. If it is profitable for you to bring these animals here and pay them up to , so maybe you can move out of here yourself.
    This is not the last explosion of people’s patience. There will be more. And each time they will be bloodier and bloodier. No, these are not a bunch of drunken fascists. These are Russian people, people without their own country in their own country. And the sooner the authorities understand this, the better for everyone.
    1. +2
      14 October 2013 12: 31
      Quote: shark
      The authorities were warned and did this more than once. They were told that if you don’t deal with this problem, then the problem will deal with you

      It is necessary to destroy business together with the authorities. The main profit from illegal immigrants comes from unscrupulous businessmen who feed the authorities so that they turn a blind eye to their outrages. Those ridiculous fines that employers pay for illegal immigrants do not solve the problem. We just need to deprive such people of their freedom and business, coupled with a cosmic fine. And those who inflame interethnic conflict on this basis must be isolated from society along with the local authorities, since all this is either a flaw or connivance or corruption.
  90. +1
    14 October 2013 12: 01
    Quote: domokl
    Quote: Marrying
    please do not talk nonsense if you do not know the whole situation.

    Eugene, I know the situation and will be responsible for Alexander. Moreover, I know not Grandfather’s words, but as a person who really did this recently in Novogireevo. Really, why is Grandfather UK? For janitors there are a lot of additional work that your grandfather will never do. You want an example ? Sobyanin leaves on okrugs on Saturdays to see what and how. Moreover, he never tells the exact route. Local officials, having learned that he is going to their okrug, drive everyone and everyone out onto the streets to bring gloss. The chair is a pity. And these janitors work not only during working hours, but all night. Would your grandfather have worked? Yes, never.
    And then. You go to work at 7 in the morning. Is your porch clean? Clean. There are no beer bottles, no gobies ... Because the migrant works from 5 in the morning and all day. For a penny by Moscow standards.

    What do migrants have to do with it? The janitors always got up at five, or even earlier. In all the surrounding houses, I have locals and elderly people working there, including.
  91. USNik
    +9
    14 October 2013 12: 03
    As they say, the capital is the face of the country, and this face is not at all Slavic.
  92. 12061973
    -1
    14 October 2013 12: 06
    one of the leaders of the “Russian” movement, Alexander Belov (Potkin). I don’t understand, is he Jewish?
    1. New Russia
      -1
      14 October 2013 13: 05
      Potkin is a degenerate sent, there is no need for him to stain all nationalism
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    1. -4
      14 October 2013 12: 18
      It’s their custom, if possible, to lead all the forces in all directions, even the most seemingly unpromising ones. just in case - so that in any case you can get gesheft
      1. 12061973
        0
        14 October 2013 12: 32
        gesheft, this is the Jewish Kaganate on Russian territory, kill each other, make room for the chosen ones.
        1. 12061973
          0
          15 October 2013 00: 07
          Yes, we lived without the Plotkins in the USSR and would have continued to live. I was a shepherd in 99, I’m a Kalmyk, I shoot at Chechens. this is the Jewish dream to kill everyone, a land for the Jews.
      2. 0
        15 October 2013 16: 20
        oh so many minuses laughing
        Why doesn’t the “Gussian” nationalist Potkin join in this situation? isn't he trying to make his own profit here?

        and the liberal forces are almost entirely headed by the “Gussians”, the “patriot” Zhirinovsky with his Liberal Democratic Party. Dvorkovich and Medvedev with their united Russia. everywhere they are led either directly or in the shadow by political forces in our country and in the world as a rule.
        maybe only the Communist Party of the Russian Federation was not affected by this trend. and even then the leadership of the RSDLP consisted almost entirely of “Gussians”
  94. +8
    14 October 2013 12: 07
    Don't lie to yourself. It’s not a matter of having representatives of a different ethnic group. but in their behavior.
    The fact is that they carry a culture that is alien to us, or rather a lack of culture that is alien to us.
    It’s easier for us to look at a gopnik in sweatpants than at a Caucasian man in an expensive tracksuit.
    We are outraged by their behavior, not their presence.
    And as for their behavior:
    I grew up in Kazan, at that very period when the whole country was surprised by the “Kazan phenomenon”, when half of the conscript population was in various groups. So... a couple of weeks ago I was sitting in a bathhouse with a sidekick, we were having a conversation about Caucasians and the sidekick said to me: “- Do you remember in our time you’re walking through the market with a girl and the “khachi” selling apricots couldn’t raise their eyes. God forbid if the girl says that "Khach" looked at her wrong... the reaction was lightning fast, a broken shoulder, kidney failure and a ban on trade, because our boys held the market. And now what? They fuck our girls, and the youth tolerate it. There is no power now in contrast."

    I have already said that the problem is not that there are many of them, but that there are few of us. And it’s not that they are strong, but that we are weak.

    Their culture cultivates a cult of strength, a cult of men. And our culture cultivates rear-wheel drive, tolerant liberals. Who will win? the answer is known.
  95. +11
    14 October 2013 12: 12
    And in the regions this “rabble” is a dime a dozen. It won’t work out that way for us; they won’t “cool” with us. Drive us out of Moscow and St. Petersburg, there will be no life for us in the regions. In our Kuzbass, Governor Aman Gumirovich Tuleev, in order to get pluses from GDP for the birth rate, imports and legalizes (of course not himself) hundreds and thousands of Tajiks and Uzbeks, because Russians are leaving (the standard of living when compared with St. Petersburg and Moscow seems to be in different countries). The school next to the house where I once studied, now teaches black children, 3-4 Russians per class. All maternity hospitals work without interruptions, where little black females give birth to Roseseyaninants in batches. Tuleyev looks very bad now, that is, we are all mortals, but putting such a pig on Kuzbass is very low even for him and his SDS (the company of his “friends” and family). The level of salaries due to the Russian Seyants is very low, why pay a Russian normally if there are Rose Seyants, so a lot of Russians “dump” from Kuzbass and Siberia in general. Tuleyev is forcing those same Russians from Russia to be admitted to universities and graduated as specialists, engineers and lawyers, because he is “rummaging” that a Russian engineer for a salary of 20 thousand rubles will not work at the “shitty” SDS or “AZOTE”, but how can an Uzbek engineer be trained as a teacher? They don’t know, our language is difficult for them. In general, we will soon live in a society where all the cops are from the Caucasus (since Chechens and Caucasians en masse study at the Saratov Military Institute of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia and the Krasnodar University of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia), and the engineers are from Central Asia (KemTip and KUZGTU). Despite the fact that Kaukau residents are not blown up in Chechnya, but Russian police officers from Russian regions are taken to Chechnya. And Caucasians are prosecutors, investigators and detectives in Russian regions.
    1. 0
      15 October 2013 18: 31
      100500 I live in Novosibirsk. I am ready to subscribe to every word.
  96. +3
    14 October 2013 12: 12
    It’s difficult for our authorities now, I want to continue to earn money from guest workers, without having to quarrel once again with all sorts of the EU and other defenders of migrants. but the instinct of self-preservation, in order to continue to feed from our people, tells them that it would be good to restore order. otherwise, if this continues, the people will rise up, and various types like Potkin will take advantage of the moment.
  97. +10
    14 October 2013 12: 18
    PVOshnik (2) RU
    Well, the authorities have played their game... They'll catch you and convict you damn it, like a killer, for 5-8 years, and 20-30 of our citizens for inciting ethnic hatred. ALL MIGRANTS get out of Russia!

    I think even more Russians will be imprisoned, and for longer periods. Interior Minister Vladimir Kolokoltsev promised to punish all those responsible for the “unrest.” And what's in these riots the culprits are in government, who drove people to the extreme with their policy of dominating Russia with Gasters, HE “doesn’t suspect”? Who said that Russia couldn’t do without their broom and trade? And how do they manage to cross the border in thousands without permits and settle in the country? Under the USSR, even during the day or at night, you could calmly walk, go from work or to work. Children aged 5 years and older played in the yards, and no one feared for their lives. WE HAVE REBUILDED....
  98. +13
    14 October 2013 12: 27
    Oddly enough, it is the presence of such a number of illiterate migrants that shows everything that our “galley slave” has achieved, what kind of economy he has built. Despite the loud statements that Russia is building a new economy based on the latest technologies and scientific achievements, we see quite the opposite - Russia has become a cesspool and a raw material appendage of the whole world, because no high-tech industries are being built here, but what is being built is something that requires low-trained , low-skilled labor, that is, migrants.
    1. +9
      14 October 2013 13: 27
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      ... what our “galley slave” achieved, what kind of economy he built.

      reached the position of first consul... with a claim on Caesar... and Caesar knows only one economy - the slave system...
  99. +10
    14 October 2013 12: 44
    We need a new mayor in Moscow, preferably from among the military personnel and a native Muscovite. So that the police could be built and officials who went too far could be severely punished. And Sobyanin, apparently, is just another pitiful and weak yap, who solves nothing and is incapable of doing anything.
    1. +7
      14 October 2013 13: 32
      Sobyanin and his wife of a certain nationality deeply do not care about the national self-awareness of the titular nation
    2. tverskoi77
      0
      14 October 2013 16: 28
      Preferably measures from Minsk) under the clear leadership of Lukashenko.
  100. +11
    14 October 2013 13: 09
    Another small remark about whether we need migrants or not, in the Moscow region there is a city called Khotkovo, there are basically no migrants there at all, and all those vacancies that are occupied by guest workers in other cities and villages are occupied by local residents in Khotkovo.
    1. +11
      14 October 2013 13: 29
      Such Myths have long been destroyed!!! Regarding the fact that all Russians are heavy drunkards and parasites who don’t even though they can’t work! And that we cannot do without migrants! All this is nonsense!!! Disseminated by those who benefit from it, who profit from it
      1. 0
        14 October 2013 21: 48
        The enemies of Russia are gradually achieving their goal. The people have already forgotten how the USSR was collapsed and how it began. All that remains is to wish that human reason will still win in this difficult struggle.