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Biryulevo Pogromnoe

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Outskirts of Moscow illegally opposed the migrants. Yesterday in Moscow, the so-called people's gathering in memory of the 25-year-old Egor Shcherbakov killed a few days ago ended with the most widespread unrest in the past few years.

The instigators were the nationalists, who, stating that the killer of the young man was a "man of Caucasian appearance", called for the pogroms of migrants. West Biryulyovo, where the confrontation between the police and right-wing radicals unfolded, by Sunday evening more resembled a war zone.

In the city, the Vulkan-5 plan was announced, which was last introduced after the terrorist attacks in the subway, and Interior Minister Vladimir Kolokoltsev demanded that Shcherbakov’s killer and instigators of the riots be found, threatening to dismiss the leadership of the metropolitan police.

The first national gathering of nationalists and residents of the area Biryulyovo West conducted "hot pursuit" - a day after the murder of Yegor Shcherbakov. Operatives told "Kommersant" how it happened.

On the night of Friday, at about two o'clock, 25-year-old Yegor Shcherbakov was returning home with a girl. Near the house entrance in Vostryakovskiy passage, 7 (Mr. Shcherbakov lived there) an unknown person approached them and, according to the investigators, began to insult the girl. Between young people began a verbal skirmish, which quickly turned into a skirmish.

First, the alleged killer, pushing Yegor Shcherbakov away, hid behind a parked car, and when he rushed after him, he hit him with a knife. As the investigators say, the blow was struck with a folding knife and fell between the ribs in the back. Yegor Shcherbakov died on the spot, before the ambulance arrived, and an unknown person disappeared from the scene of the crime.

The killer, they say in the police, was "a man of Caucasian appearance." Already on Friday, his photo taken by surveillance cameras was published in all nationalist communities on social networks. And in 22: 00, about a hundred local residents came to the scene of the murder of Yegor Shcherbakov to demand an immediate investigation from the authorities. After talking with the representatives of the police and the local government, they quickly dispersed, but that same night a new people's gathering was announced.

“The start time in 16: October 00 13 near the scene of the murder of Yegor Shcherbakov. Those who are from other areas - to get to the place carefully, so as not to be intercepted on the road by lawlessness by the police. When questioning all the policemen to answer that they are going to meet with their acquaintances, ”such instructions appeared in most of the specialized communities of the Vkontakte social network on Sunday night.

Exactly to 16: 00 on Vostryakovsky passage began to gather local residents and young people, like football fans. They did not have any political symbols, flags and posters on their hands. It all started peacefully: one of the leaders of the “Russians” movement, Alexander Belov (Potkin), entered the center of the crowd with the head of the local government, Viktor Lehavin, and the official said that youth squads would be created in Biryulyovo. The crowd responded to complaints about the "domination of migrants" and the local fruit and vegetable base, which allegedly became the center of the spread of "non-resident criminals."

The participants of the meeting got tired of listening to politics rather quickly, and they decided to go to the shopping center "Turquoise", located in the neighboring Bulatnikovskaya street. In the crowd, someone said that it was there that migrants work. “Where do you let the crowd go?” They have already begun to smash cars! ”Shouted Mr. Potkin at the head of the council, watching the heated youth gaze.

Around 20, people broke into the lobby of the mall, smashing windows and throwing flares. A fire started. In the clouds of smoke, it was clear how the staff of the shopping center and the sellers were trying to escape through the back door. At the same time, at about 40, riot police officers at first simply watched what was happening and only after 20 minutes did they decide to push the crowd back from the Turquoise. Started the first detention. There were seven people in the paddy wagons, but they failed to take them to the ATS: the crowd, chanting "Release" and "Russia for the Russians!", Was surrounded by a police car trying to drive along Bulatnikovskaya Street. As a result, Avtozak returned to the shopping center and several detainees left it. Crashed into small groups, young people discussed the perspectives of “going crazy on the area” and offered each other “sharpen knives”.

The crowd greeted the nationalists with applause. Right-wing radicals crowded for another half an hour without any goal, after which, following shouts from the crowd “To the base!”, They moved towards Vostryakovsky passage, where the vegetable base is located. The nationalists smiled and planned their evening. “There is a chock in the area most of all, you can have fun,” the correspondent of “Kommersant” heard conversations in the crowd.

In the column, in order to “just see what the base would have,” many married couples went with their children. Along the way, right-wing radicals warm up: they turned over bins, garbage cans, tore road signs out of the asphalt and threw empty bottles at policemen. “We’ve got it, let them go to the village,” an elderly woman to her companion argued the need for references and deportations.

The riot police several times tried unsuccessfully to block the movement of the crowd, but every time people walked around the living chain through the courtyards. Not everyone was able to reach the vegetable base: some of the nationalists decided to go to the destination bypass, but in the end they were cut off by the riot police. Those who arrived quickly knocked out the gates of the vegetable base and searched the territory of the complex in search of visitors. They could not find anyone: the vegetable warehouse was empty. Turning over several soda fountains and not finding what they were looking for, the nationalists retired.

At this time, around 800, people tried unsuccessfully to get through to the vegetable depot from the Podolsk Cadets street. The performance of the nationalists in terms of their scale was more like the “Russian march” or the festivities in honor of the victory of the national hockey team. The eight-lane carriageway was completely filled with people, sometimes frankly drunk, who shouted the traditional: “Russia for the Russians, Moscow for the Muscovites”; over the crowd at the same time waving Russian flags.

Accidental visitors at the epicenter from the Caucasian republics or Central Asian countries hid in the bushes, but not everyone was able to leave.

They were beaten in groups, while police officers standing nearby reluctantly drove them away from the victim. Closer to 20: 00, on the Podolsk Cadets Street, the impressive forces of the fighters with their shields were pulled together, and the crowd began to thin.

Nationalists broke into groups and scattered around the courtyards in search of visitors. One of these groups reached the Biryulyovo-Tovarnaya railway platform, where she smashed the collapse with watermelons and turned over the Zhiguli standing nearby.

The fact that in Moscow an extraordinary state of emergency occurred, is indicated by the fact that by this time the “Vulcan-5” plan had been introduced in the capital. The last time such operational activities were held three years ago, after the terrorist attacks in the Moscow metro (then 40 people died). The plan is introduced, if necessary, the detention of highly dangerous armed criminals, allows for the detention to resort to the most stringent measures. At the same time, Interior Minister Vladimir Kolokoltsev declared an alarm to the entire staff of the Moscow police. This measure implies the immediate arrival of the service, even those who are on vacation. Until the alarm is canceled, they serve around the clock.

The police department said that the riots in Biryulyovo were provoked not by local residents, but by mob riders. These are young people, about 350 – 400 people, who, as the police say, were tricked through social networks, saying that “the chocks completely let themselves go, and at night people were afraid to go to the streets”.

However, the efforts of the authorities did not calm down the aggressive crowd. At the very beginning of Podolsk Street, motorists were met by police cordons — patrol cars and trucks, so it was impossible to drive. On practically deserted streets only occasionally buses passed and cruised small groups of young people. Despite the abundance of riot police and other police units, the young people calmly met the need two steps from the police. Practically at each large outlet there was one or two policemen with riot policemen. The outfits of policemen in helmets passed through the yards of residential houses, checking documents from young people.

Late in the evening, the square in front of the Turquoise shopping center became the center of action. It was more like a place of a recent battle: smoke was pouring out of a building with broken shop windows, and a police helicopter circled above it in the night sky. About several hundred young people returned from time to time, who periodically blocked the roadway. Finally, a police truck appeared on the square. Bottles flew into the fighters jumping out. The police severely pushed the most active attackers to the playground and took the ring. However, comrades came to help the detainees. Here on the square began to appear all the new police cars that filled the entire territory in front of "Biryuza".

This was also called special vehicle "Tiger". Police officers began pinpoint detentions. According to the observations of Kommersant correspondents, among those people who still remained on the square, there were a lot of local residents, including children and dogs.

According to police, riot police "acted tough, but within the law." A criminal case was initiated against the detainees under art. 213 "Hooliganism", which, most likely, will be supplemented by Art. 318 "The use of violence against the authorities".

Representatives of national diasporas immediately responded to the unrest. The head of the Federation of Migrants of Russia, Muhammad Amin, appealed to them not to leave home. “There may be attacks in different parts of Moscow. Nationalists are very aggressive, ”he told Interfax. According to Mr. Amin, it is better for migrants and foreigners in general “not to walk and not to visit public places”.

Judging by the actions of the police, the authorities really expected the continuation of large-scale riots already in the city center. Police around the perimeter cordoned off Manezh Square. Several hundred riot police in full combat gear did not allow passers-by to go there. Near the Historical Museum are located a half dozen covered awning police trucks with soldiers. Later, Red Square and Alexander Garden were taken under similar protection.

During an emergency meeting at the Ministry of Internal Affairs held late Sunday evening with the participation of the head of the Moscow police Anatoly Yakunin, Minister Vladimir Kolokoltsev threatened that if the killer and instigators of the riots in Biryulyovo were not established and arrested in the near future, "other people will head the police units."

According to the Ministry, about 100 people were checked for involvement in the murder and "large-scale measures were carried out to identify and search for the suspect."

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  1. svp67
    svp67 14 October 2013 08: 08 New
    122
    The outskirts of Moscow illegally opposed migrants.
    If the government doesn’t stop moving away from resolving the long-overdue issue, it may soon become ILLEGAL ...
    1. Zhenya
      Zhenya 14 October 2013 08: 12 New
      67
      You can’t even imagine what’s going on here. smile All for the forceful solution of the issue, up to the toughest, there is still not a lot of oil and all ....
      1. domokl
        domokl 14 October 2013 08: 50 New
        -7
        Quote: Marrying
        All for the forceful solution of the issue, up to the toughest, there is still not a lot of oil and all ....

        Not all. It’s a little that you went too far. Biryulyovo has always been and is a hole. Even Kopotnya against Biryulev is a center. There has always been a kingdom of migrants. And not only from Central Asia and the Caucasus. And there’s no need to talk about the fruitful base and Pokrovsky market. .
        It seems to me that the outbreak of anger was caused precisely by the fact that over the past 10 years they have set up a bunch of new houses where Muscovites moved from areas less populated by migrants (thanks to Luzhkov, he broke the five-story slums) So the clashes began.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 14 October 2013 09: 03 New
          81
          Quote: domokl
          .Biryulyovo always was and is a hole .. There has always been a kingdom of migrants.


          So what now to evict Russians from there and build an aul?

          Quote: domokl
          It seems to me that the outbreak of anger was caused precisely by the fact that over the past 10 years a bunch of new houses have been set up there


          But it seems to me that the residents of Moscow need to be provided with work, and not hell knows visitors
          1. fzr1000
            fzr1000 14 October 2013 09: 08 New
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            “Oppositionist” I. Yashin tweeted photos of “nationalist pogromists” with comments like “Where the police are looking. Keep the fascists!” Here is the radish.
            1. avt
              avt 14 October 2013 10: 36 New
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              Quote: fzr1000
              “Oppositionist” I. Yashin tweeted photos of “nationalist pogromists” with comments like “Where the police are looking. Keep the fascists!” Here is the radish.

              Do not offend a good spring vegetable. smile
              Quote: domokl
              And what about the village? The Russians lived and live in Byurilevo. But there was never any order there. By the way, Major Yevsyukov, at one time he taxied the police department in Biryulyovo too ... That's it, note ...

              And the friendship of his dad, who ensured his career take-off, after an explosion in Kashirka, in a district subordinate to him, flew up to Luzhkov in the Central Internal Affairs Directorate. Well, not 37 years old. a piece of black cash wholesale with subsequent retail gives.
              Quote: domokl
              There is no more idiotic demographic situation than anywhere else in Russia. Even in China, 20% of the population of small Russia (two cubits on the map) lives in Moscow and the Moscow region. There are as many ministry students ...

              Yes, they flow from Moscow to the Oblast and vice versa. The same gadyushniki in the oblast are a dime a dozen near the roundabout, in Mytishchi, for example, in general, a “murdered” harlem. Moscow was fanned by merchants and their business centers to disgrace. Cherkizon removed, the stalls from the stops - do not believe it, it became quiet, almost like before the perestroika.
              1. azkolt
                azkolt 14 October 2013 11: 50 New
                -3
                Of course, this is all bad, but it seems to us that we have enemies and a terrible one here who are very scolding and who want, firstly, to divert the blow from themselves by casting a shadow on the wattle fence, that is, on migrants, and secondly, to help tear apart Russia on national soil and thereby destroy it!
                1. goldfinger
                  goldfinger 14 October 2013 16: 27 New
                  +5
                  Quote: azkolt
                  Of course, this is all bad, but it seems to us that we have enemies and a terrible one here who are very scolding and who want, firstly, to divert the blow from themselves by casting a shadow on the wattle fence, that is, on migrants, and secondly, to help tear apart Russia on national soil and thereby destroy it!

                  When the warehouse is robbed, it is set on fire.
                  To set fire to a stolen Russia and topple over a hill, where they have families, money and real estate, that’s the goal of the Kremlin team.
                  The Russians are not looking for enemies there.
                  1. 31231
                    31231 14 October 2013 16: 38 New
                    -11
                    That Belarusian for the fate of Russia cares. Or a normal analysor?
                    1. goldfinger
                      goldfinger 14 October 2013 19: 47 New
                      +5
                      From Minsk. To paraphrase Roosevelt, one can say, "When Russia sneezes, Belarus has pneumonia." (About the USA and Mexico). Whether or not we are allies. If you have an excess of bandits and "Gaster", according to the "law of communicating vessels," they will flow to us. It is better to fight this together. Although you have a lot, for us it is not considered "This is good," the main thing is total corruption.
                      ВThat Belarusian for the fate of Russia cares. Or a normal analysor? Cit.
                      1. Dober
                        Dober 14 October 2013 22: 05 New
                        +4
                        Quote: goldfinger
                        With an excess of bandits and "Gaster" from you, according to the "law of communicating vessels", they will flow to us.

                        In this case, this law does not apply. And the "Law of Entropy", according to which "something always flows to where it is better," will work. That is, CONDITIONS ARE CREATED. Who / what? First (and only) power !!! The "market conditions" that are often spoken about are also subject to laws issued by the authorities.

                        Belarusians, as we see, the authorities are NOT INTERESTED in the presence of hordes ostarbeiters (I hate the word - "Gastarbeiter". Gast (German) - GUEST. And the same Turks for the Germans are NOT GUEST !!!), therefore, under Lukashenko you will not have a "biryulevo".
                        Quote: goldfinger
                        It’s better to fight this together.

                        In order not to "fight", it is better not to allow. I’m glad that yours understand this, but in Russia the “lessons of Europe” do not fit into any interpretations. I'm talking about power ...
                      2. goldfinger
                        goldfinger 14 October 2013 23: 21 New
                        +7
                        Dear Dober! I agree with you completely, but did not want to "show off" the situation with migrants with us. Indeed, traders in the markets are also not all Belarusians. But, I ask you to believe, not a single one, I emphasize, I don’t remember a single case in recent years, that there would be problems in this field. There was a fight in the car market in the spring with a wound, there were gypsies from Russia, and Caucasians, also Russian. They didn’t seem weak. Someone was sitting. The order put in place is "stiff", as the Old Man says. And it is true. There is no ethnic crime. Maybe quietly, each other and beat, but that's their business. About migrants From Belarus to you, to put it mildly - is not true. Nobody goes with their families, they go to work, seasonally. Yes, and not so massively. Mainly, universal finishers, your rich mansions to finish. And that's great. The country needs a currency. If the Russians themselves do not want to work, or do not know how? Vocational education, unlike us, has collapsed. And the fact that your nouveau riche massively buy housing in Minsk and other cities is already a whole problem. And their parents are sent here to rest. We know that too. They also accept Russians, Slavs from Central Asia, but not gopot, but specialists. 36 came to us for permanent residence last year. Not so bad with us in this matter. And most importantly, the solution to all of Russia's current problems is “clean hands”.
                        Bye. Good luck.
                      3. Dober
                        Dober 15 October 2013 00: 07 New
                        +2
                        Yura. We can talk in PM. If there is a desire, only half of the above does not apply to me, although I agree with almost everything.
                        For almost 11 years I have not lived (permanently) in Russia. But every year I visit twice.
                        And I want to say that in Russia hunting is for permanent residence, but so far THIS AUTHORITY will not go there. And to Belarus .... what Yes, even after a month. But I’m sure that there won’t be such conditions, which I’m used to, and for the umpteenth time that I don’t want to become a “big fan”. The two highest "images" and a healthy salary distinguishes me from other "local Ostarbaiter".
                        Quote: goldfinger
                        The order put in place is "stiff", as the Old Man says.

                        This bazaar is generally like a song. good You can hear on winter evenings with vodka and boiled bulb with cucumber. crying
        2. Altona
          Altona 14 October 2013 11: 26 New
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          I don’t know a greater fascist than Yashin himself ... But migrants need not just leave home, they don’t leave their region of birth ... In Russia there are a lot of their hands ... And the police need to carry out the President’s instructions and not cut loot from such illegal bases ... By the way, it would not hurt to pay a tax visit there and encircle such places with a dues ... Otherwise, one business is crushed, and the other condones ...
          1. New Russia
            New Russia 14 October 2013 12: 40 New
            +7
            "And the police must follow the instructions of the President"

            Putin: We will not introduce a visa regime.
            Putin's head of the Federal Migration Service, his former KGB colleague: Migration in the world is a natural process, there is nothing to worry about changing the ethnic composition of Russia
            1. Altona
              Altona 14 October 2013 15: 13 New
              +2
              I spoke about the order in the markets ... Not for migration in general ...
            2. Altona
              Altona 14 October 2013 15: 16 New
              +1
              By the way, the policemen do not rule migration ... And I don’t need to poke the FMS, confuse green with warm ...
        3. Airman
          Airman 14 October 2013 11: 45 New
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          Well, the authorities played out tolerance and liberalism, now they are looking for the extreme. Migrants are dearer to them than their citizens. They will catch and condemn this chock, like a killer, for 5-8 years, and 20-30 of our citizens for inciting ethnic hatred. ALL MIGRANTS get out of Russia!
          1. 31231
            31231 14 October 2013 12: 02 New
            -1
            And who is a citizen of Russia ?!
          2. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 14 October 2013 13: 20 New
            +4
            Quote: Povshnik
            Well, the authorities played out tolerance and liberalism, now they are looking for the extreme. Migrants are dearer to them than their citizens
        4. Kibalchish
          Kibalchish 14 October 2013 12: 35 New
          +1
          Mr. ... Mr. Yashin, I apologize for the expression.
        5. ICT
          ICT 14 October 2013 14: 49 New
          +1
          Quote: fzr1000
          Here is the radish.

          this is for the film, in fact this is called a bastard
        6. OffenroR
          OffenroR 15 October 2013 18: 10 New
          0
          Quote: Marrying
          You can’t even imagine what’s going on here. smile All for the forceful solution of the issue, up to the toughest, there is still not a lot of oil and all ....

          1 World Civil War wassat From all over the world, “relatives” will be called for help fellow
      2. domokl
        domokl 14 October 2013 09: 33 New
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        Quote: Vadivak
        So what now to evict Russians from there and build an aul?

        And what about the village? The Russians lived and live in Byurilevo. But there was never any order there. By the way, Major Yevsyukov, at one time he taxied the police department in Biryulyovo too ... That's it, note ...
        Quote: Vadivak
        But it seems to me that the residents of Moscow need to be provided with work, and not hell knows visitors

        It’s ridiculous to provide residents of Moscow? I wonder why migrants don’t go somewhere to Siberia or the Far East? Have you ever thought? Yes, simply because there is no work there. And there is work in Moscow. A lot of work. And money. They go to Moscow not only from auls, but also from quite apparently decent Russian cities.
        We don’t have to provide Muscovites with work. We need to invest money in Russia, not Moscow. There is no more idiotic demographic situation than in Russia. Even in China, 20% of the population of small Russia (two cubits on the map) lives in Moscow and the Moscow region. Yes, there are as many minrants ...
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 14 October 2013 09: 36 New
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          Yevsyukov, in fact, taxied in Tsaritsyno, though that Tsaritsyno, that Orekhovo, that Biryulyovo was dominated by ... ehh ... migrants and Caucasians are about the same.
          1. domokl
            domokl 14 October 2013 09: 48 New
            +5
            Quote: fzr1000
            Yevsyukov, in fact, taxied in Tsaritsyno,

            laughing The police station, which Yevsyukov taxied, is located on Zagoryevskaya Street and belongs to Biryulyovo. Not only the west, but the east. And it is really closer to Tsaritsyno.
            But I agree with the rest. The regions are really Caucasian. Well, this is due to the fact that the market there was huge (the benefit was dispersed by Sobyanin), again, the neighborhoods are near
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 14 October 2013 09: 54 New
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          Quote: domokl
          The Russians lived and live in Byurilevo. But there was never order there.


          But didn’t you think why?
          Quote: domokl
          ? I wonder why migrants do not go somewhere to Siberia or the Far East? Have you ever thought?


          You didn’t go there. Migrants are already full in Siberia, but about the Far East in general I am surprised at your ignorance. The Chinese live in colonies.
          1. domokl
            domokl 14 October 2013 10: 15 New
            -1
            Quote: Vadivak
            You didn’t go there. Migrants are already full in Siberia

            laughing I live in Siberia ... And I’ll tell you for sure that there are many Caucasians. But we won’t have pogroms. They behave quite adequately. Just like our native people. And they can fill their faces and help if necessary.
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 14 October 2013 11: 33 New
              16
              Quote: domokl
              I live in Siberia ... And I’ll say for sure that there are Caucasians, even a lot. But we won’t have pogroms ..

              You live in Siberia, and you write about Biryulyovo as if it was only from there that a hole and a limit came in there.

              And you also live in some virtual Siberia

              October 12 2012
              Caucasians smashed a Siberian cafe shouting "Allahu akbar!" About 15 raiders at the Kemerovo bar "Sliver" beat up peaceful visitors and shot at them.

              Feb 11, 2011 Surgut police chief: “Extremism” provokes migrants
              The main reason for the spread of extremist sentiments among the residents of Ugra is the large influx of migrants, many of whom do not want to live in a law-abiding manner, ”said Viktor Ivanov, police chief of Surgut.
              For the most part, migrants from the North Caucasus, Transcaucasia and Central Asia arriving in the district do not seek to adapt and adapt to the existing rules of life in society and, as practice shows, they often take part in illegal activities, become members of organized criminal groups, he said.
            2. jagdpanzer
              jagdpanzer 14 October 2013 16: 26 New
              -1
              come on??? fresh tradition but hard to believe!
            3. 31231
              31231 14 October 2013 16: 39 New
              0
              In Siberia, I liked the Irkutsk region for its friendliness.
        3. Ustas
          Ustas 14 October 2013 10: 13 New
          +6
          Quote: domokl
          . You need to invest money in Russia, not in Moscow. There is no more idiotic demographic situation than in Russia.

          I agree.
          Russia try to manage with your own human resources, why do we need visiting shabashniks!
          1. domokl
            domokl 14 October 2013 10: 18 New
            -2
            Quote: Ustas
            Russia try to manage with your own human resources, why do we need visiting shabashniks!

            Russia cannot provide the indigenous people with normal jobs and salaries. And in Moscow, both of these are in abundance. Here shabashniks go to where it smells like big money
            1. Sirocco
              Sirocco 14 October 2013 12: 00 New
              +8
              Quote: domokl
              Russia cannot provide indigenous people with normal jobs and wages.

              Who do you mean by Russia? My opinion is that we switched to the rails of capitalism, as a result of which capital rules everything, it follows from this that our capitalist entrepreneurs do not give us work, in view of my greed for profit, I have already scolded this topic, they say so, you don’t want to work for a certain amount, Uzbeks, Tajiks, etc., who will plow for less, are behind the gates. Well, at construction sites, it’s already a rule to hire cheap workers from Central Asia, which you can hire, and for which you don’t have to pay any taxes, not holiday pay, and not sick leave.
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 14 October 2013 13: 24 New
                +3
                Quote: Sirocco
                we switched to the rails of capitalism, as a result of which capital rules everything

                With claims on migration policy, too, to apply for capital, or we still have the state?
                1. Sirocco
                  Sirocco 14 October 2013 13: 30 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Yarosvet
                  With claims on migration policy, too, to apply for capital, or we still have the state?

                  You didn’t come into the world yesterday? Capitalism is already a state policy, and as with any power, in the EU and others, we have capitalists behind power, in this case, who pays for the girl, she dances. Although I may be wrong. request
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 14 October 2013 15: 46 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Sirocco
                    Capitalism, this is state policy
                    Capitalism - only a form of socio-economic relations in which the right of private ownership of the means of production is allowed - this is not state policy. Public policy is a system of distribution of benefits, legislative activity and the implementation of the latter in practice.

                    and as with any power, in the EU and others, the capitalists are behind us, in this case whoever pays for the girl dances her
                    True, there is only a small nuance - this dance is great at odds with the current Constitution, which automatically transfers dancers to the category of criminals.
        4. Babon
          Babon 14 October 2013 12: 35 New
          +2
          They also come to Moscow from Ukraine and Belarus, I personally communicate, and from there they also go to offices to sit, and not to do some "prestigious" work.
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 14 October 2013 09: 58 New
        +4
        Quote: Vadivak
        And it seems to me that the residents of Moscow need to be provided with work,

        Vadim, why the hell do you make them sweep the streets. So long as it’s cleaned up by itself, it will be so. Take out all the migrants now, so tomorrow there will be news on all TV channels that Moscow is buried in snow and mud.
        1. Guun
          Guun 14 October 2013 10: 14 New
          -5
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Take out all the migrants now, so tomorrow there will be news on all the TV channels that Moscow is buried in snow and mud.

          I agree to all 100. I just don’t understand - the Caucasian killer - they beat the Asians. What are the Asians guilty?
          1. roma2
            roma2 14 October 2013 11: 16 New
            -2
            WELCOME TO T A M O J E N N Y S O U Z
            1. goldfinger
              goldfinger 14 October 2013 11: 35 New
              +8
              Quote: roma2
              WELCOME TO T A M O J E N N Y S O U Z

              The Kremlin fought for what, and ran into it.

              Xenophobia is inflated and arrows are being transferred to the State Department.
              So they get a pogrom in Biryulyovo. They will continue in the same spirit, they will receive a civil war.

              All this has already happened.

              In the late 80s, before the collapse of the USSR, there were Sumgayit and many other places.

              And a hundred years ago, before the collapse of the Russian Empire, there were pogroms. Read the article HOW RUSSIA LOSED JAPAN'S WAR on the Satire and Life website.

              Putin's Russia has an increasing chance of stepping on this rake for the third time. No wonder Putin was a threesome at school ...
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 14 October 2013 13: 28 New
                +6
                Quote: goldfinger
                Xenophobia is inflated and arrows are being transferred to the State Department.
                So they get a pogrom in Biryulyovo. Will continue in the same vein, get a civil war
          2. 31231
            31231 14 October 2013 13: 23 New
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            And the radicals do not care. And cons instructed you in confirmation. Sunni radicals, too, Christians and Alawites blamed only because they were not of their faith.
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        3. Zhenya
          Zhenya 14 October 2013 10: 17 New
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          Alexander Romanov I have a grandfather from the top floor, in the spring I wanted to go as a janitor, to sweep our 3 closest houses, Do you know what they told him? We do not need you, we have enough emigrants, please do not talk nonsense if you do not know the whole situation.
          Guun You have stereotypes in relation to Muscovites no more no less, you find it even more difficult to know the current situation.
          1. domokl
            domokl 14 October 2013 10: 26 New
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            Quote: Marrying
            please do not talk nonsense if you do not know the whole situation.

            Eugene, I know the situation and will be responsible for Alexander. Moreover, I know not Grandfather’s words, but as a person who really did this recently in Novogireevo. Really, why is Grandfather UK? For janitors there are a lot of additional work that your grandfather will never do. You want an example ? Sobyanin leaves on okrugs on Saturdays to see what and how. Moreover, he never tells the exact route. Local officials, having learned that he is going to their okrug, drive everyone and everyone out onto the streets to bring gloss. The chair is a pity. And these janitors work not only during working hours, but all night. Would your grandfather have worked? Yes, never.
            And then. You go to work at 7 in the morning. Is your porch clean? Clean. There are no beer bottles, no gobies ... Because the migrant works from 5 in the morning and all day. For a penny by Moscow standards.
            1. Zhenya
              Zhenya 14 October 2013 10: 33 New
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              domokl Good day, although still morning, but sunny .... good autumn.
              Bottles? Gobies and a lot of things are lying around, although I live in the Central Administrative District, I can tell the region it is not difficult for me. The duties of a janitor, to keep his plot clean so? Since I’m sure that my grandfather would have done it, but the emigrants warm their hands, so they refused to my grandfather, let's be realistic.
            2. Babon
              Babon 14 October 2013 13: 04 New
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              And grandfather will also clean in the morning, and they clean the streets from 5 in the morning to 7 already finish. In addition to officials, there are various bodies, the Ministry of Emergencies, the Ministry of Internal Affairs ... And they have territories not only in Moscow, but also in the Moscow Region entire TCs. So they are taken out there for cleaning, something like subbotnik turns out. And parks in Moscow also need to be cleaned.
            3. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 14 October 2013 13: 34 New
              +8
              Quote: domokl
              For janitors, there are tons of extra work your grandfather will never do.
              Local officials, having learned that he is going to their district, expel everyone and everything to the streets to bring gloss
              And these wipers work not only during working hours, but also all night because the migrant works from 5 in the morning and all day. For a penny by Moscow standards.


              It only says that the issue is systemic and rests on non-compliance with the TC.
              Non-compliance with the TC rests on uncontrolledness and corruption.
              Uncontrollability and corruption rests on the priorities and policies determined by the first person of the state.

              Conclusions?
            4. Turtles
              Turtles 14 October 2013 14: 16 New
              +3
              domokl
              Do you already figure out where you live in Siberia or Novogireevo?
        4. fklj
          14 October 2013 10: 19 New
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          In the same Moscow region there are many who want to sweep the streets. You have to pay for work.
          1. Zhenya
            Zhenya 14 October 2013 10: 23 New
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            fklj You are just smart, decent salary solution to the problem!
          2. domokl
            domokl 14 October 2013 10: 31 New
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            laughing j ->
            Quote: fkl laughing j
            In the same Moscow region there are many who want to sweep the streets. You have to pay for work.

            That's right. To pay MORE than now. Only where does the salary come from? The state order is put up for tender. And the one who undertakes to do the job for less money wins. And what should the entrepreneur do? Win up the business or set the salary in such a volume so as not to burn out?
            Romanov also wrote about this. To make Muscovites and Muscovites work, you need to fulfill a bunch of their conditions. Or hire those who agree with the conditions proposed by the entrepreneur.
            1. fklj
              14 October 2013 10: 37 New
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              There is another choice. Hire a "Gaster" and put the "extra" money in your pocket or pay our janitor for work.
            2. Zhenya
              Zhenya 14 October 2013 10: 37 New
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              domokl You ulcerate again! Current status:
              1. Emigrant, you will not expel work, you will expel the right to download, instead of 20, we will pay 000, you will expel your mouth. Once again I say this is beneficial, not Muscovites.
              1. domokl
                domokl 14 October 2013 11: 18 New
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                Quote: Marrying
                Current status:
                1. Emigrant, you will not expel work, you expel the right to download, instead of 20 000, we will pay 12 000, we will expel our mouth.

                But did I write that it is not profitable? It is beneficial if you live normally with the district administration of a single customer. Otherwise, add the costs of another 10-15% of the fines from them.
                And the situation that you described is when an illegal slave force is used. But this is already a question for the migration service. (I don’t know today's prices, but a few years ago it officially cost 2000 rubles and 100 rubles for something there.)
                Here we are talking about those who have a work permit and are officially registered in Moscow.
                When Luzhkov pompously opened the Tsaritsyno complex, which was restored, or rather completed in Luzhkov’s style. By the date. And then the fun began. The work in the museum that threatened to destroy all the work. They called specialists from the RAS. They calculated 80 million elimination costs. Resin cut his power to 40 ... And the company won the tender for 4 million ... So much for the benefits and reasons for using migrants.
            3. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 14 October 2013 13: 40 New
              +5
              Quote: domokl
              That's right. To pay MORE than now. Only where does the salary come from? The state order is put up for tender. And the one who undertakes to do the job for less money wins. And what should the entrepreneur do? Win up the business or set the salary in such a volume so as not to burn out?
              In our Constitution, is an entrepreneur the highest value, or a person?

              Or hire those who agree to the terms proposed by the entrepreneur
              It’s strange - for some reason, the opposite happens with the car industry: instead of increasing the quality of cars, they put protective duties on foreign cars and do not soar.
            4. chief.matros
              chief.matros 14 October 2013 23: 07 New
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              oh, what kind of poor things are you in Moscow ... Yes, because of your stinginess and greed, you turned all of Russia against yourself, you need a person to work for three for one salary and combine three other specialties at the same time !!! No matter how they propose a job in Moscow, this must be done, and then, and if you calculate it, you will save at least hundreds of thousands of rubles on one employee.
          3. 31231
            31231 14 October 2013 12: 14 New
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            Yah?! In Moscow?!
            My parents in the province have Russian janitors. I was in Moscow and it’s enough for me that everything is lost in the subway. And for some reason I think that it was not the non-Russians who lost it, but the cheerleaders, who were throwing each other with their seats at the matches. You at least take a look at the fresh videos on YouTube on Biryulyovo before defending these scumbags.
        5. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 14 October 2013 10: 57 New
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          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Take out all the migrants now, so tomorrow there will be news on all the TV channels that Moscow is buried in snow and mud.

          No, Sasha. Real wages will start to pay, not the pennies on which migrants sit. I’m currently working in the housing and communal services, I know how loot is being cut. I already wrote, З / П one is calculated, another is paid. And in the chain the contractor sits on the contractor. The final hard worker gets a penny.
          1. chief.matros
            chief.matros 14 October 2013 23: 17 New
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            Yes, everyone knows this for a long time, even there was a box-by-box transmission. The center allocates money to the same janitor, while one of the officials “cuts” part of this money, then the amount goes to the region — there they cut a piece, from the region to the district, and there they chopped off a piece, so that the final paycheck comes and the crumbs from this pie. But this chain is not difficult to trace, there are simply no interested parties — the whole country is mired in corruption, and if things go on like that, which is regrettable, but indeed the Civil could begin.
        6. avt
          avt 14 October 2013 11: 40 New
          +7
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Vadim, why the hell do you make them sweep the streets. As long as we clean up the mess ourselves, it will be so.

          Well, how much snowstorm can you drive? It seems that a long time ago they were given a monetary situation when, according to a statement of 40 thousand, migrants for the top ten sign and live in basements, and the officially relying apartment, as a rule, odnushka on the ground floor, surrenders for money in black. Even in the subway, about three years ago there was no one Asian - a cleaner, now they have already appeared, and there, I don’t remember as a keepsake, but there were no less than 25 per month with all their real benefits. It’s difficult to rule with locals and visitors from the region, as the rules quickly figure it out when they are warm ... and they don’t have to hide, they have a passport, they easily put the rule on the hossies as a rule. Just give me a tax statement - they’ll gladly squeeze a legal person dry, already like that helped the guys. And what about a slave? They even cannot explain what they want to say in Russian.
          Quote: Guun
          What are the Asians guilty?

          It’s already realistically that they are straying into hungry flocks, in addition to individual robberies, Tajik gangs have already taken - they flew into warehouses in industrial zones, goods were taken out.
    2. Babon
      Babon 14 October 2013 12: 28 New
      +1
      This went after the Cherkizon was closed, all these people began to actively populate not only Biryulevo, but in general the Southeast of Moscow. There is the Moscow Shopping Center nearby, and the whole district is populated, and for the most part they rent apartments, there is a complete international, from where there are no people.
      1. avt
        avt 14 October 2013 12: 45 New
        +7
        Quote: Babon
        There is the Moscow Shopping Center nearby, and the whole district is populated, and for the most part they rent apartments, there is a complete international, from where there are no people.

        Okay, take off! I’m a friend, lives in Maryino, immediately said - look at the payment for the apartment. And, surely, the column has disappeared how many people live in the apartment. A friend called the REU on the advice, and in response - this is for your safety. And then they began to pop up in Lublin written in batches the Chinese. The people rushed - write out, and muzzles in the passport office and the Federal Migration Service - look for them and write them out. Here you have the rubber apartments without the knowledge of the tenants, but the law will not be accepted and the answers will be answered by the fatty FMS cats and the passport-residents and understand no one wants, the loot is taken and spent.
        1. Babon
          Babon 14 October 2013 12: 58 New
          +6
          This is yes, especially passportists are welded, most importantly, this is not a secret. Yes, the ads are hanging, "we are registering" the passports themselves and hang. I talked here with a former official, he talked about one passport office in Yasenevo. So there, for days on end, the Chechen hung around, just to the liking of the drunken singles, nariks. The "cops" themselves ordered him, and they asked this official not to get into his own business, if he goes there, then he needs something.
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  2. Danilka
    Danilka 14 October 2013 08: 52 New
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    in-in ... in Pugachev there was a “peaceful rally” in the Biryulyovo rally with a splash of “emotions” and will it be the third time? Revolution or super pogrom? How long ???? angry
    1. 31231
      31231 14 October 2013 10: 16 New
      -10
      The rally ?! Cars burned and shopping centers. And if as a result of the actions of these scumbags you will suffer ?! How do these radicals differ from the Islamic ?! What are these rams, what are those. Instead of a head, a bone.
      1. matross
        matross 14 October 2013 11: 03 New
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        Quote: 31231
        How do these radicals differ from the Islamic ?!

        They are ours. Russians. Do not understand the difference? Want to make a liberal appearance? Then, if that, for sure
        Quote: 31231
        you will suffer
        1. 31231
          31231 14 October 2013 11: 21 New
          -5
          They are ours. Russians.


          Pop Gapon was also Russian. Chikatilo was also Russian. Vlasov was also Russian.
          Maybe a person is marginalized and scumbag only from the fact that Russian nationality is yours. You may be ready to endure his illegal tricks, but for me personally, everyone is equal before the law. We Russians are no exception. And the place of the exceptional has long been occupied by the Americans.
          1. matross
            matross 14 October 2013 12: 11 New
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            Quote: 31231
            but for me personally, everyone is equal before the law. We Russians are no exception

            That is the problem. The law does not work. And we Russians are just the exception. And if the law doesn’t work, there will be pogroms. The system seeks a balance of justice. And do not give out the legitimate indignation of Russian citizens for provocations by the Nazis. If there is no reason, you won’t provoke anyone, even crack, but if you’re there, you don’t need to provoke, it will break through itself and not seem enough ...
          2. Vadivak
            Vadivak 14 October 2013 12: 12 New
            +4
            Quote: 31231
            Pop Gapon was also Russian.


            The cleverest man by the way was Georgy Apollonovich. The rector of the orphanage of St. Olga, the author of the project, which provided for the creation of labor colonies for the rehabilitation of unemployed tramps, the model for which was the Kronstadt House of industriousness, proposed the founding of a new working society on the model of independent English unions in general read about it
            1. 31231
              31231 14 October 2013 14: 20 New
              -1
              Gapon’s Aikyu was measured ?! For some reason I have a religion outside of politics. And if a clergyman crawls into politics under the guise of a cassock and dignity, then this is not from a great mind.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 14 October 2013 11: 07 New
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        Quote: 31231
        And if as a result of the actions of these scumbags you will suffer ?! How do these radicals differ from the Islamic ?! What are these rams, what are those. Instead of a head, a bone.

        The difference is that Ours do not go to bargain with them. And if your children suffer from pasties? Will you hope for justice? It is unlikely. Only the introduction of strict migration laws like Saudi Arabia and the Emirates will help. In any other case, the pogroms will continue, and there will be people speculating on this.
        1. 31231
          31231 14 October 2013 11: 17 New
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          Only the introduction of strict migration laws like Saudi Arabia and the Emirates will help.

          Do you think this will stop the Natsik ?! Expel Caucasians and Asians. Although I have little idea how it will look and how a citizen of Russia or the CSTO will be kicked out.
          Do you think the provocateurs of the Natsik calm down ?! I doubt it.
          After all, there are still Jews, Tatars, Buryats.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 14 October 2013 11: 39 New
            +3
            Quote: 31231
            Do you think the provocateurs of the Natsik calm down ?! I doubt it.
            After all, there are still Jews, Tatars, Buryats.

            All this can be supplemented by the introduction of registration. Did it work before? Will work now.
            1. 31231
              31231 14 October 2013 12: 32 New
              0
              that is, a Caucasian citizen of Russia with a residence permit for stabbing does not cause a pogrom of Natsik and bad youth ?! Do you really believe that ?!
              Okay, I’ve been rude to have stabbed me, but what is the fault of the shopping center and its employees ?! What are car owners to blame for ?! Or have you not watched a YouTube video on the actions of these "innocent" scumbags ?!
              I was in Kazakhstan and you know what surprised me ?! Education of youth. Children are brought up respect for the state, for the elders, for the laws. What respect can these young thugs say if you offer to leave them without punishment ?!
              Then Vani Agafonov’s holy martyrs of Caucasians appear. And the fact that they wring out phones is not significant.
              1. New Russia
                New Russia 14 October 2013 12: 47 New
                +7
                "for the stabbing will not cause a pogrom of Natsik and bad youth ?!" Why do you Putiners always have bad people, youth? And when people are indignant with Putler, such as you immediately accuse them of ingratitude to superlord and stupidity) A bad king always has people to blame)
                And the people here judging by this summer and yesterday’s events are getting smarter)
                1. 31231
                  31231 14 October 2013 13: 58 New
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                  What kind of youth are you talking about ?! That which shopping center and cars burned yesterday ?! Or the one who serves in the army, or studies and works, and she has no time to buzz ?!
                  Suns, at 93 I myself went with such a herd of students to the administration of Eburg. I don’t remember what we then demanded, but for us it would be more adrenaline than something conscious. Nevertheless, several provocateurs launched empty bottles in riot police. And well done cops that did not begin to taunt all the fools of youngsters, but pulled out these provocateurs and rejuvenated. And who tried to intercede, that also got it. With the help of such young hamsters, revolutions are made.
                  1. New Russia
                    New Russia 14 October 2013 14: 05 New
                    +1
                    “Either the one serving in the army, or studying and working, and she has no time to buzz ?!” Buzz? What they should beat to sit quietly and be silent? I have a friend, he served him in the army for 25 years and then contracted for several years, now he runs construction projects in Sochi, so he himself proudly admitted to me that he “buzed” a Caucasian only because he was trying to meet his Russian friend, and he himself would go out to the square to "wake up" if such a situation happened. and this is with us, in peaceful Adygea.
                  2. 31231
                    31231 14 October 2013 15: 25 New
                    -1
                    Buzz? What they should beat to sit quietly and be silent?



                    Et doo! Just like those Arabs in Paris. They take out their protest on the property of others and the health of others.
                2. chief.matros
                  chief.matros 14 October 2013 23: 33 New
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                  by the way, that shopping center belongs to some thread to a deputy of a certain scale, and only his pogrom, the shopping center, could attract the attention of the authorities, and if there were no pogrom, then the cops would always work from 16:00 to 23:00 and drink beer at home
            2. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 14 October 2013 14: 25 New
              +3
              Quote: 31231
              that is, a Caucasian citizen of Russia with a residence permit for stabbing does not cause a pogrom of Natsik and bad youth ?!

              There will always be exceptions. Do you remember the registration, how did it work? There will be no influx of the same Caucasians in such volumes. And maybe this is not right, but I am more tolerant of the antics of my youth than of the antics of the Caucasians. They don’t go to someone else’s monastery with their own charter, understand?
              1. 31231
                31231 14 October 2013 15: 28 New
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                And maybe this is not right, but I am more tolerant of the antics of my youth than of the antics of the Caucasians.

                Criminals have no nationality. Everyone is equal before the law. Including these headless.

                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 14 October 2013 15: 52 New
                  +7
                  Quote: 31231
                  Criminals have no nationality. Everyone is equal before the law.

                  You tell the judges, otherwise, according to Article 282 Russians alone are sitting.
                2. 31231
                  31231 14 October 2013 16: 45 New
                  -3
                  But what should I fight for the murder should go under Article 282 ?! Oh, wei, you are just like that Pontius Pilate verb.
                3. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 14 October 2013 17: 23 New
                  +2
                  Quote: 31231
                  But what should I fight for the murder should go under Article 282 ?!

                  When the Russians are killed with the cries of Alah Akbar, how do you think this should be regarded?
                4. 31231
                  31231 14 October 2013 21: 41 New
                  -5
                  Have you seen the recording of Shcherbakov’s murder with voice acting ?!
                  Wow. I would have to look at least with one eye without voice acting, and you heard “Allah akbar” even.
                5. chief.matros
                  chief.matros 14 October 2013 23: 45 New
                  +3
                  I’m not catching up with something; you, in your Joburg, have froze so much or you really are such a brake, here it’s not only Shcherbakov’s conversation, but, in general, Russia
          2. chief.matros
            chief.matros 14 October 2013 23: 42 New
            +4
            just as the Russians begin to defend their right to life, so immediately fomenting inter-divide, and how to dance Lizginka in the middle of the night under the windows of the house, so observe tolerance.
        2. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 14 October 2013 15: 55 New
          +4
          Quote: 31231
          Criminals have no nationality. Everyone is equal before the law

          The fact of the matter is that not all were equal, but upon closer examination it turned out that those who are not equal have either a social class, or a North Caucasian or, less often, Central Asian nationality.

          Everyone would be equal - there would be nothing to discuss now.
        3. chief.matros
          chief.matros 14 October 2013 23: 39 New
          +2
          it’s just interesting why all the detained Caucasians usually have FSB xivs, and they are quickly released, like they were on a mission (sometimes it feels like the whole Caucasus is working for the FSB).
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 14 October 2013 22: 56 New
      -1
      Quote: 31231
      Okay, I’ve been rude to have stabbed me, but what is the fault of the shopping center and its employees ?! What are car owners to blame for ?! Or have you not watched a YouTube video on the actions of these "innocent" scumbags ?!


      When Russians get from Caucasians or Asians, it’s bad. But when Russians beat or bomb someone it’s good ... But for some reason they bomb those who are not guilty in principle. And then they themselves will shout that someone is stirring up ethnic hatred.
      If, the crowd had beaten, specifically the guilty one, then as they say he asked for it ...
      But when they knead, everyone who comes to hand is already too much ...
    3. chief.matros
      chief.matros 14 October 2013 23: 28 New
      +1
      I was born, raised and live in the Caucasus, I see how old people teach the minds of their children, but what then these "educated" children do in Russian cities, you would see, don’t believe me, come to Stavropol, to the eastern regions of the region, or to Krasnodar region, to the southern regions
  • Vadivak
    Vadivak 14 October 2013 12: 53 New
    +9
    Quote: 31231
    After all, there are still Jews, Tatars, Buryats.


    You see the ones you live live according to the laws of the country, not Sharia and customs brought with you. Tatars in general were a stronghold of autocracy because they have in their blood a love of order in general.
    1. 31231
      31231 14 October 2013 13: 43 New
      0
      Yah?! Seriously ?! I know at least five Czechs, two Dagas, who do not pray. There is nothing to say about Tajik friends. Hard workers and once they bow to Allah.
  • Danilka
    Danilka 14 October 2013 13: 38 New
    +3
    And I'm actually a blue-eyed Aryan both in passport and in appearance ... although I recall an anecdote -
    conversation of two Jews
    -chem did you hear there will soon be pogroms
    I’m Russian on my passport !!
    -. they will beat not according to the passport but in the face! laughing bully
  • Asgard
    Asgard 14 October 2013 09: 18 New
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    It is necessary for the military to occupy police stations and release detainees ...
    Policemen do not act in the legal field and do not carry out the functions of justice ...
    Sobyanin and officials, unfortunately, are also not on the side of the Verse speeches ....
    So OTHER PEOPLE will already head ...

    Military)))
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 14 October 2013 09: 33 New
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      And by that time ...
      About 380 detainees in the Biryulyovo Zapadnoye area will be interrogated in a criminal case on hooliganism, a spokesman for the capital’s Interior Ministry head office said on Monday night.

      “Given the circumstances of the incident in the area of ​​Biryulyovo Zapadnoe, 30 investigators of the main investigative department of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia for Moscow are currently conducting urgent investigative actions with detainees for disturbing public order. About 380 detainees will be questioned in a criminal case instituted under part 2 of Article 213 (“Hooliganism”), ”a source quoted as saying by Interfax.
      For investigators, you’ve found a better job than catching a killer ...
      1. 31231
        31231 14 October 2013 10: 27 New
        +1
        And much separates these arbiters of justice from the killer Nerus ?! If they indiscriminately kicked across the “non-Russians” about what adequacy they can be talked about ?!
        These are the same criminals as the distinguished Nerus.
        Put them in turn in the same cell with the killer and let them catch up. The most interesting thing was that he was not Russian.
        I have a brother with a friend who killed a regular criminal with a knife. Russian scumbag. 15 years for 2 corpses. Normal household with a fight.
        And I do not have the slightest desire to somehow support such scumbags.
      2. Danilka
        Danilka 14 October 2013 13: 42 New
        0
        and they have a plan on their mind. Give 380 cases !!! bully
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 14 October 2013 09: 40 New
      +7
      Quote: Asgard
      Policemen do not act in the legal field and do not carry out the functions of justice ...

      So maybe this is the whole point? "The law is one for all!" This principle should be put at the forefront. Migrants, Muscovites, visitors - it does not matter. If they know that at the slightest violation of the law they will be punished, regardless of the "faces", then there will be order. And now you need to act VERY TIGHT so as not to flare up further. And continue to support this principle. And not only in Moscow. In the whole country. Otherwise, general rebellion cannot be avoided. IMHO
    3. gladiatorakz
      gladiatorakz 14 October 2013 10: 58 New
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      Quote: Asgard
      It is necessary for the military to occupy police stations and release detainees ...
      Policemen do not act in the legal field and do not carry out the functions of justice ...

      It would be good, but unrealistic. The army is smaller than the Ministry of Internal Affairs. And psychologically and morally, they are not ready to defend their people without an order. Or against the order. But the creation of popular squads and partisan movements is necessary.
      1. Asgard
        Asgard 14 October 2013 11: 09 New
        +7
        The movement will begin and the POLICE OFFERS will take the side of the People ...
        It’s not necessary to think that some “traitors” serve in the police ....
        Yes, I agree that not the best representatives ....
        inclined and inclined to the protection of traitors- "occupational system of bandits"

        But after all, they understand THIS very well ....
        If somewhere, something is organized, We will see how Kolokoltsev begins to say the right thing ...
        - but not like, oh, about “drunk football fans” and that Murder is an REASON
        FIRED AT ALL
        1. gladiatorakz
          gladiatorakz 14 October 2013 11: 31 New
          +5
          Quote: Asgard
          The movement will begin and the POLICE OFFERS will take the side of the People ...
          It’s not necessary to think that some “traitors” serve in the police ....
          Yes, I agree that not the best representatives ....
          inclined and inclined to the protection of traitors- "occupational system of bandits"

          Asgard, I’m not saying that in the Ministry of Internal Affairs there are only traitors to the People. And in spetsnaz so generally they are few. But in order for them to take the side of the People, their eyes (or maybe Soul) must open and go beyond the red flags. I think this is inevitable. The question is, what kind of blood?
        2. Dober
          Dober 14 October 2013 22: 25 New
          +3
          Quote: Asgard
          The movement will begin and the POLICE OFFERS will take the side of the People ...

          I'll argue with anyone. that do not get up!
          This power was given to them by so many nishtyaks that they did not even dream of five years ago. I have both uncles BOOL police officers (in the past). Last August I spoke a lot with them on this subject ...
          And they don’t know about another power. and they don’t want to know. The task is to PROTECT this. And who will stand up against the defense [b] (AUTHORITIES) [/ b] - that will be replaced.
          Estimate yourself:
          The criminal could be found in a few hours, it was enough to put a little pressure on the "people" who came from Azerbaijan to "look" at the vegetable base. Such an approach would be much more effective than any “Volcano”, because for the sake of preserving the right to freely sell tomatoes, apricots will give not only the murderer, but also their brother to justice. And the capture of the killer would contribute to a decline in passions. There was not even an attempt to do this. Why? Inability, ignorance, unwillingness ... / underline necessary /.

          The fact that the killer was an Azerbaijani was guessed by many, as the Transcaucasian Turks themselves say, “Biryulyovo is the Azerbaijani pearl of Moscow,” but apparently misunderstood political correctness (if we suspect corruption) did not allow saying this.
          [b] But what the Moscow police did not do was come from Azerbaijan themselves - they recognized their compatriot as the killer. [/ b] I would like to immediately clarify, this was done not out of philanthropic motives, but with the aim of helping others to "lay down on bottom ”and wait out“ troubled times ”.

          So, the administrators of the largest groups of Azerbaijanis on VKontakte on the night of October 14 published records that the failed rapist and murderer Yegor Shcherbakova is an Azerbaijani. Group administrators urged their fellow tribesmen to be careful not to engage in skirmishes and not to leave their homes without special need. At the same time, it was also indicated [b] that the killer is a native of Shamkhor, which unequivocally confirms that the Azerbaijani community in Moscow knows the identity of the criminal. [/ B] Some Ramil Agayev confirms the information:
          [b] “Aslan, is anything known? As far as I know, he is ours, he worked at that very vegetable warehouse. ”[/ B]
          It is symptomatic that the members of the group immediately attacked the administrators, accusing them of allegedly betraying their fellow tribesman. A certain Farrukh Seidmammedov could not resist the provocation that could cause new bloodshed: [b] “Many already knew that it was possible not to shoot it, the protesters had already killed two brothers of Azerbaijanis.” [/ b] Then he explained: [b] “The father said they killed two brothers. One died immediately, the other in the hospital ”[/ b].
          Against this background, the Russian guy’s appeal to the Azerbaijanis looks completely hopeless: [b] “Hand him out. Show that you are against crime. If you hide it or block it, it will clearly show that you approve of such behavior, especially on a foreign land. "[/ B]

          And now IMHO - All this is the norm of behavior of the Transcaucasian abrek or Asian - which he wants to introduce in Russia, which provides his family with the opportunity not to starve to death.
          Crime has a nationality. Today she is an AZERBAIJAN.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 14 October 2013 11: 15 New
        +6
        Quote: gladiatorakz
        But the creation of popular squads and partisan movements is necessary.

        A good thought, but without the support of the state, is doomed to failure. And our Gus state will not do this. These squads will instantly declare organized crime groups and gangs. Kvachkov, Khabarov, Far Eastern partisans are an example of this.
    4. Rustam
      Rustam 14 October 2013 11: 15 New
      +6
      Asgard It is necessary for the military to occupy police stations and release detainees


      This is an appeal from your side. In the course that the main elite of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is the former military, also with the FSB, here they are destroying it quietly, phrase from the beginning of the 90s in police circles,Boots killed the police


      Police officers do not act in the legal field


      And in what field should they act? They follow orders that gives them a hand-in. For more details, tell me how it should act.
  • fzr1000
    fzr1000 14 October 2013 09: 50 New
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    And tomorrow, the holiday begins Kurban-Bayram (now the time has come to celebrate their holidays ...), in Moscow it can be very "interesting" ...
    1. Danilka
      Danilka 14 October 2013 13: 50 New
      +3
      in general, you can catch so many illegal immigrants on this holiday ... Mama Do not Cry. Admission is free, and at the exit the docks-registration citizen! No? Do you want a free tour to the sunny ... camp?
      and about K-B a little spark-and can blaze. Although I'm not a fortuneteller repeat request
  • Rustam
    Rustam 14 October 2013 11: 21 New
    +3
    Zhenya All for the forceful solution of the issue, up to the toughest


    And now in more detail. Who is the power solution to the issue-the people, the street?

    Yesterday I looked — how many people immediately joined this rally, deputies, politicians and other dishonesty — all make political capital, raise ratings, blame the local police department, council and so on — and they’re all right angels in the Dumasay for a long time enter a visa regime, accept normal laws

    The second question and the most important one, how to solve the problem with immigrants from the North Caucasus (Mr. Russia), this question is, in my opinion, one of the main
    1. goldfinger
      goldfinger 14 October 2013 11: 39 New
      +6
      Russian riot.
      Citizens are already tired that Russia is under the Caucasian yoke.
      Tolerance is not a blind eye to Caucasian banditry and demonstrative disrespect for the laws of the Russian Federation.
      .If it is blazing across the country, a terrible orgy will begin. Who needs this? ...
      To the Zaputins.
      Abroad, they have families, loot, real estate.
      Having ruined Russia and dumped to the West, they expect that no one will look for them.
      There is no country.
      1. Rustam
        Rustam 14 October 2013 11: 49 New
        +1
        goldfinger

        Russian riot


        These are all the slogans on your part, is there a concrete program of action?
        1. Russkiy_Prapor
          Russkiy_Prapor 14 October 2013 12: 07 New
          +5
          Quote: Rustam
          These are all the slogans on your part, is there a concrete program of action?

          There is:
          1) Refusal of foreign labor.
          2) The most severe punishment for corrupt officials, including bribery in uniform, up to life imprisonment.
          3) Deportation of all illegal immigrants.
          4) Real public control over the activities of officials. Open trials. The ability to make a civil arrest.
          1. rolik
            rolik 14 October 2013 12: 48 New
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            Quote: Russkiy_Prapor
            1) Refusal of foreign labor.
            2) The most severe punishment for corrupt officials, including bribery in uniform, up to life imprisonment.
            3) Deportation of all illegal immigrants.
            4) Real public control over the activities of officials. Open trials. The ability to make a civil arrest.

            This, of course, is all interesting.
            No foreign slave / force can not do. In many large cities, such as Moscow, local people will not go to work for 15000 a month. In order for this to happen, it is necessary to raise the janitor's salaries to 40000-50000. To do this, it is necessary to firmly take the entire housing and communal services system in the gauntlet. Take on management companies, almost the whole mess comes from there.
            As for our peace officers, I agree completely.
            Well, as for public control over officials, this is fantastic. Which official will allow himself public control. The share of controlling officials, you need to do something like your own security services, or create a detachment of “untouchables” - only in the economy. Then the bureaucrat will think before putting a bribe in his pocket.
            Well, in general, with all the successes of foreign policy, it is almost a complete failure in the domestic in the most important areas. We would have a normal prime minister, who would form an adequate cabinet.
            1. Russkiy_Prapor
              Russkiy_Prapor 14 October 2013 12: 57 New
              +3
              Quote: rolik
              No foreign slave / force can not do. In many large cities, such as Moscow, local people will not go to work for 15000 a month. In order for this to happen, it is necessary to raise the janitor's salaries to 40000-50000.

              15000 pay the janitor a migrant in his arms, and he signs for 30000. Any pensioner will be glad of such an increase. That is precisely why they don’t take Russians into janitors, they will have to pay honestly.
              Quote: rolik
              Well, as for public control over officials, this is fantastic. Which official will allow himself public control.

              And who will ask these freaks? To accept the law and they will not go anywhere.
              1. rolik
                rolik 14 October 2013 13: 21 New
                +3
                Quote: Russkiy_Prapor
                15000 pay the janitor a migrant in his arms, and he signs for 30000. Any pensioner will be glad of such an increase. That is precisely why they don’t take Russians into janitors, they will have to pay honestly.

                So I wrote about this: to deal with Management Companies.
                Quote: Russkiy_Prapor
                And who will ask these freaks? To accept the law and they will not go anywhere.

                And who will pass these laws ??? people??? the same bureaucrats and will have to accept it in the Duma)))) That's why I’m talking about the Security Service, which would be appointed by presidential decree, or by order of the Prime Minister.
            2. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 14 October 2013 14: 20 New
              +4
              Quote: rolik
              No foreign slave / force can not do. In many large cities, such as Moscow, local people will not go to work for 15000 a month. In order for this to happen, it is necessary to raise the janitor's salaries to 40000-50000

              In Australia, the minimum wage is equal to 50% of the PPP GDP per capita (not taxed)

              In Brazil, the minimum wage is 32% (tax free)

              In the Russian Federation - 8% (minus 13% of the amount)

              That is, the normal minimum wage for the Russian Federation (social state) in the region of 31-32 tr. (for Moscow in the region of 35-40). Given the working conditions of the salary, the janitor in Moscow not only should, but may also be in the region of 50-60 tr.

              The question of replacing vacant seats with the position of a janitor by Russian citizens is a question of the amount of social guarantees, and this question is one of the main directions of the state’s internal policy.
              1. rolik
                rolik 14 October 2013 14: 52 New
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                Quote: Yarosvet
                Yarosvet

                In the constitution, please note, the President DETERMINES, that is, gives direction. But the Duma or Parliament takes these very directions. And these, as they say in Odessa, are two different things. GDP may determine, but other participants in the action may not accept it. Or, as in the case of DAM, look from a different perspective on this goal and accordingly ..... screw up everything in the end.
                1. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 14 October 2013 16: 35 New
                  +2
                  Quote: rolik
                  But the Duma or Parliament accepts these very directions.
                  The Duma and parliament adopt not directions, but federal laws, which are then signed by the President. HAVING A VETO LAW.

                  GDP may determine, but other participants in the action may not accept
                  The policies are specified by presidential decrees MANDATORY (from 90 of the Constitution).

                  These decrees are “not executed” by the government - a group of civil servants, which is actually FORMED AND APPOINTED BY THE PRESIDENT.

                  Article 14 of the Law on Civil Service stipulates for non-compliance with presidential decrees, albeit miserable, but responsibility - which NONE OF THE PRESIDENT allegedly violated.
                  1. rolik
                    rolik 14 October 2013 17: 14 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Yarosvet
                    The Duma and parliament adopt not directions, but federal laws, which are then signed by the President. HAVING A VETO LAW.

                    Everything is correct, but in article 80 (which you cited) it is clearly stated that the president determines the directions in the state’s domestic and foreign policy. For example, the GDP determined the direction for integration with Belarus, accordingly, subordinate structures should prepare legislative proposals (initiatives. According to part 1 of article 104 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the President of the Russian Federation, the Federation Council, members of the Federation Council, deputies of the State Duma, the Government of the Russian Federation have the right The legislative (representative) bodies of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, as well as the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation, the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation and the Supreme Arbitration Court of the Russian Federation on matters of their jurisdiction.The draft laws are submitted only to the State Duma according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, thereby securing the Duma’s privilege to initiate consideration of any draft law, which excludes a similar possibility for the Federation Council. The Federation Council, included in the circle of subjects of legislative initiative, can exercise this right only by introducing a bill in the State Duma. Now about the President and his role in all this fun))) According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the President of the Russian Federation signs and publishes There are laws adopted by the Federal Assembly. This right, known in a number of countries as promulgation, turns acts of the legislative authority into acts of state power. Only after the head of state promulgates the adopted federal law, does this law acquire legal force obliging it to be enforced. By virtue of Part 2 of Art. 107 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the President of the Russian Federation is obliged to sign the adopted federal law, if within 14 days from the date of receipt he does not reject it. He also does not have the right not to sign the previously rejected federal law after his repeated approval by the State Duma and the Federation Council within seven days from the date of receipt of the decisions of the Federal Assembly on approval of the law in its original version and is obliged to promulgate this law (paragraph "d" of Art. 84, part 3 of article 107 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation). The President of the Russian Federation has a veto power, overcoming of which upon repeated consideration by the chambers of the Federal Assembly requires a two-thirds majority of the votes of deputies (members) in each house. The veto is an effective weapon in the hands of the President of the Russian Federation; he often uses it. However, as noted above, the President of the Russian Federation is involved in the legislative process at earlier stages. He has (and very often realizes) the right of legislative initiative, gives an opinion on the bills adopted by the State Duma in the first and second reading, participates in lawmaking in virtually all stages. This activity is carried out in accordance with the Regulation on the Procedure for Interaction of the President of the Russian Federation with the Chambers of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation in the legislative process approved by the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation (as amended on March 4, 1998).
                  2. rolik
                    rolik 14 October 2013 17: 28 New
                    0
                    Quote: rolik
                    This activity is carried out in accordance with the Regulation on the Procedure for Interaction of the President of the Russian Federation with the Chambers of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation in the legislative process approved by the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation (as amended on March 4, 1998).

                    I will continue. So, of course, very many, including myself, would like DAM already asked to leave the Kremlin. But reality is probably a little more complicated than we imagine. What if there is an agreement between GDP and DAM that DAM retains the post of prime minister for the first presidential term of GDP ???? Because, as everyone has already seen this, the GDP is clearly following its promises. Upon entering, for the first time, the presidency after EBN, he promised the latter that he would not touch his people. And indeed, for a long time did not touch. Then there were permutations, it didn’t reach the full expulsion from the government, but a dismissed (rearranged) person usually got a position that could not allow him to harm as before. Now the situevina is developing very interestingly, DAM frankly mowing, mowing, mowing, but sitting on its armchair. Although, from the side. it should seem that it is time for him to give the magic pendal. But this does not happen, I am still inclined to theory, agreement. Well, all other countries need to show our moral character that the president and the prime minister are doing one thing. Although shoals of teddy are trying to fix the following decrees, or mitigate the effects of telodviguh iPhone. And at the same time, preparations are underway for the “turn all of a sudden” team, with the change of the entire cabinet, led by plush. No wonder Surkov was pulled out of the corner, it seems that he is being prepared to replace Dimochka.
                  3. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 14 October 2013 17: 42 New
                    +2
                    Quote: rolik
                    Everything is true, except for one thing - the presidential decree is a by-law and DOESN'T PASS THROUGH THOUGHT.

                    The President issues a decree, thereby determining the direction of the policy - the decree also specifies this direction.

                    The decree is binding.

                    For non-execution of the decree, the president has the opportunity to dismiss the previously appointed employee (in principle, he can do this without obvious violations on the part of the employee)

                    What is really?

                    In fact, not a single civil servant was injured.
                  4. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 14 October 2013 19: 22 New
                    -2
                    Quote: rolik
                    What if there is an agreement between GDP and DAM that DAM retains the post of prime minister for the first presidential term of GDP ????
                    But what if the Martians replaced Putin and Medvedev ????

                    Because, as everyone has already seen this, the GDP clearly follows its promises
                    Yeah - especially the election laughing

                    Upon entering, for the first time, the presidency after EBN, he promised the latter that he would not touch his people
                    Suppose - why and why?

                    And indeed, for a long time did not touch. Then there were permutations, it didn’t reach the full expulsion from the government, but a dismissed (rearranged) person usually got a position that could not allow him to harm as before
                    I did not notice anything like it.

                    DAMS frankly mowing, mowing, mowing, but sitting in his chair
                    From the point of view of an ordinary citizen.

                    Well, all other countries need to show our moral character that the president and the prime minister are doing one thing
                    The "other countries" do not have intelligence, are there no agents and analytical departments?

                    Although plush jambs are trying to fix subsequent decrees, or mitigate the effects of the iPhone
                    Shoals of Dima, which significantly correct - a trifle. Large "shoals" no one fixes.

                    No wonder Surkov was pulled out of the corner, it seems that he is being prepared to replace Dimochka.
                    What is the difference between Surkov and Medvedev?


                    Mdya ... The bottom line is that if you remove from the equation the unfounded hope that Vova has as its goal the well-being of the citizens of the country and put in its place the constantly confirmed fact that Putin is a logical continuation of EBNya - by itself there is no need to guess and build hypotheses, since there are no unknowns in the equation.
      2. Rustam
        Rustam 14 October 2013 12: 58 New
        +1
        Russkiy_Prapor
        There is:


        You know, I usually don’t comment on these topics on this site, since emotions and slogans prevail over common sense and specific proposals -how sad


        Sergey, but this is already something and not inconceivable slogans, but for the ruin of everything and everything, whoever hit the wrong face

        let's try to make out

        1) Refusal of foreign labor.


        I don’t quite agree, the slave force is mainly from Asia, who works for a spear, sweeping streets and yards, you probably need to start with Dezov and other organizations, clean them and then try to hire Russian-speaking people or the Russian Federation, but you must agree that the profession is a janitor or a general laborer or a seller our, especially young people, are not very attracted — everyone wants to be Lawyers, Menchandisers, and so on — nobody wants to go behind the machine or drive the streets, to the same place you will agree how our population behaves — mountains of garbage and dirt on playgrounds, but go into your elevator at home and see what happened to him?
        Yes, you need to introduce a visa regime - and stop the huge flow, but still you can do without them - so a certain percentage is needed for those professions that are unpopular with the indigenous population

        Severe penalties for corrupt officials, including bribery in uniform

        I agree in part, but we must take it higher and do not dump everything on the Ministry of Internal Affairs, to which they twisted their hands (all kinds of human rights defenders, etc.)

        Deportation of all illegal immigrants.


        There is such a thing, it’s necessary to deport — only no one can do this — again blaming the Ministry of Internal Affairs — but the Ministry of Internal Affairs cannot deport since the FMS does it — in the best case, a fine is written out — the person throws it out and goes on, and collecting documents for a judicial decision is a big problem, the same thing happens with this decision
        probably it’s necessary, as in Europe, large separate departments and export to the border at the expense of the state

        Real public control over the activities of officials.

        I agree, but with reservations

        The bottom line is all this is mainly Asia! What to do with SEV CAUCASUS (by the cities of the Russian Federation), after all, problems come from them mainly? are you undeporting them?
        And this is a problem, not stupid national slogans to hang up and so on
        The main problem is the North Caucasus of the republic within the Russian Federation - what to do with them and how to deal with newcomers from there, no one can clearly tell
        1. Rustam
          Rustam 14 October 2013 14: 09 New
          +4
          The last sketch is a demonstration video

          1-0-10sec - crowd with frenzy pounce on the Asian guys and why so weak? you go to the Czechs on kaenna, pull out of the car and so on, have never seen such

          2-pog of the shopping center - there non-Russians are working, I turn over the Gazelle and other cars, and whose they have grown, maybe this is the person’s nurse?

          3 - take the food base by storm

          This is called a pogrom and want to participate oh how many
          1. Rustam
            Rustam 14 October 2013 16: 00 New
            -1
            here is an interesting quote - from http://echo.msk.ru/blog/mmusaev/1176598-echo/

            Yesterday in the Moscow park Troparevo-Nikulino found the mutilated body of the dentist Anastasia Nilova with traces of our death

            That same evening in South Butovo, a company of football fans gathered at the house of their friend Alexei. They drank, hurt, chatted. As a result of the gatherings, for some reason unknown so far, one of the participants in the party had beaten the other two with something heavy.

            A couple of days ago, on a Altufevskoye highway, a certain Evgeny Ivanov demolished a bus stop in a Honda car. Seeing the police, Ivanov tried to run away, but, either exhausted, or changed his mind, entered into a fight with the "cops". Later it turned out that Ivanov’s car was stolen, and he had two pistols in his car.

            At about the same time, in Moscow in the B2 club, a certain Arkady Berdnikov began to meet a certain Oksana Korchagina. The girl, apparently, was against it. Apparently, this did not stop Berdnikov. A defender was found, a quarrel occurred, which resulted in a fight. A knife went into action, and the case ended with the murder of Arkady Berdnikov
            And now a few questions for the crowd who have committed atrocities in Biryulyovo, and for all those who support this crowd.

            Why didn’t you react to any of the described atrocities so vividly as to the murder of Yegor Shcherbakov?

            Why is Anastasia Nilova, Arkady Berdnikov, Alexei from Butovo, his friend and many other victims of crime in Moscow worse than Shcherbakov?

            1. FREGATENKAPITAN
              FREGATENKAPITAN 14 October 2013 16: 07 New
              +3
              A thousand times worse ... this is called - put the pig at the table, she and her legs on the table ... or in another way ... the above-mentioned is an intra-family incident, and we will figure it out at home ... and if you arrived on a visit (or even for permanent residence) behave in such a way that you don’t be ashamed of your people, and respect someone else’s .... And so we will reach the point that we, too, will find ourselves extreme in killing our aliens guys and rape our girls, Or not?
              1. 31231
                31231 14 October 2013 16: 56 New
                -2
                the aforementioned by you is an intra-family incident, and we will figure it out at home ... and if you come to visit (or even for permanent residence) behave in such a way that you are not ashamed of your people, and respect someone else’s


                What an intrafamily ?! Such a family is unnecessary for me. Moreover, supporting these "family" scumbags you only stimulate their bacchanalia. A nerus will also respond in the framework of the Criminal Code.
            2. FREGATENKAPITAN
              FREGATENKAPITAN 14 October 2013 16: 07 New
              0
              A thousand times worse ... this is called - put the pig at the table, she and her legs on the table ... or in another way ... the above-mentioned is an intra-family incident, and we will figure it out at home ... and if you arrived on a visit (or even for permanent residence) behave in such a way that you don’t be ashamed of your people, and respect someone else’s .... And so we will reach the point that we, too, will find ourselves extreme in killing our aliens guys and rape our girls, Or not?
    2. goldfinger
      goldfinger 14 October 2013 16: 04 New
      +2
      Neighbor Belarus. There is! Lukashenko answered this question of your journalist at a press conference last Friday. Personal honesty of the president and his entire team (ministers, governors, etc.). All his ministers report with documents to him for every major purchase !!! And how will your Yakunin report for the fur store to his friend from the KGB?
      1. 31231
        31231 14 October 2013 16: 57 New
        0
        Could the photo of that fur store?
        1. goldfinger
          goldfinger 14 October 2013 18: 10 New
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          Quote: 31231
          Could the photo of that fur store?

          Type in Google "photo of the fur store", and hold on to anything that would not collapse!
          1. 31231
            31231 14 October 2013 21: 46 New
            0
            Yeah, you thought you were a serious person. And you live as demiators who sculpt all and sundry.
            You did not try to study official data ?!
  • 31231
    31231 14 October 2013 16: 49 New
    0
    Quote: goldfinger
    Citizens are already tired that Russia is under the Caucasian yoke.


    You seem to be from Belarus, but speak for Russia. It’s strange.
    1. goldfinger
      goldfinger 14 October 2013 17: 49 New
      +1
      From Minsk. To paraphrase Roosevelt, one can say, "When Russia sneezes, Belarus has pneumonia." (About the USA and Mexico). Whether or not we are allies. If you have an excess of bandits and Gaster, according to the "law of communicating vessels," they will flow to us. It is better to fight this together. Although you have a lot, for us it is not considered "This is good," the main thing is total corruption.
      1. 31231
        31231 14 October 2013 21: 47 New
        -1
        I do not know. Here I’m not climbing to you with moralizing. For you have to deal with your monastery.
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  • queen
    queen 14 October 2013 08: 14 New
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    Quote: svp67
    she herself can become ILLEGAL

    They need it now. And a savior will come in the person of PU. This is all Jewish tactics. They don’t need a united country.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 14 October 2013 08: 20 New
      22
      to whom? what tactics? animals kill people thereby leading people to such actions - that’s the reason. and, as they said here, the weakness of power.
      What do you mean .... s?
      1. queen
        queen 14 October 2013 08: 31 New
        +4
        Quote: Gleb
        animals kill people

        That's right. But who and how did it all come to this? And who brought it?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 14 October 2013 08: 35 New
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          Quote: regin
          but who and how did all come to this? and who brought it?

          Our indifference to each other.
          1. Guun
            Guun 14 October 2013 11: 08 New
            14
            You are right - if you stand up for each other in a mountain - for your nation, and this does not happen, even in the armies a couple of Caucasians (not everywhere) keep everyone in fear of the Russian guys and do not care for everyone. By the way, in our village Malovodnoye Chechens killed two guys - Kazakhs. But then there was a gross ethnic cleansing by Kazakhs of people of Caucasian nationality - law enforcement officers gave exactly one day to restore order to an angry crowd. Back in 2002, Caucasians shot an adult video with some kind of forgiveness and put it under the name We live in Kazakhstan and Kazakhs e-be-m - they cut out the entire village of Chechens without exception where they shot the video and seized their extra villages in a fever. And recent skirmishes in Astrakhan between Kazakhs and Chechens - Chechens got a hot head.
            1. sergey32
              sergey32 14 October 2013 11: 32 New
              12
              Guun, I agree with you, sometimes you have to act by not quite legal methods. I recently read Lukashenko’s interiorview of how he put things in order on the roads right after coming to power in 90's. On the gangster road Brest-Moscow gave the order to destroy the bandits on the spot. Well-armed employees rode in cool cars as bait. Three gangs were liquidated on the spot, the fourth was not. Since then, the roads of Belarus have been quiet and calm. We would have such a president.
              1. gladiatorakz
                gladiatorakz 14 October 2013 11: 44 New
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                Quote: sergey32
                We would have such a president.

                Is it the Union of Ukraine, Belarus, Russia and Kazakhstan? I think only because of such a president would Ukraine join the Customs Union,
            2. avt
              avt 14 October 2013 11: 52 New
              +7
              Quote: Guun
              But then there was a gross ethnic cleansing by Kazakhs of people of Caucasian nationality - law enforcement officers gave exactly one day to restore order to an angry crowd.

              request Well, in this case, it was not in vain that 282 were introduced, and the poses were corrupt with the same judges and understood. The guys in Ostankino did jogging with the slogan, “Russian - sober” “guess three times who came first and they were tied up -“ Caucasians ” or policemen? And what they were presented with was sports in the wrong place, or extremism.
          2. Guun
            Guun 14 October 2013 11: 09 New
            +3
            You are right - if you stand up for each other in a mountain - for your nation, and this does not happen, even in the armies a couple of Caucasians (not everywhere) keep everyone in fear of the Russian guys and do not care for everyone. By the way, in our village Malovodnoye Chechens killed two guys - Kazakhs. But then there was a gross ethnic cleansing by Kazakhs of people of Caucasian nationality - law enforcement officers gave exactly one day to restore order to an angry crowd. Back in 2002, Caucasians shot an adult video with some kind of forgiveness and put it under the name We live in Kazakhstan and Kazakhs e-be-m - they cut out the entire village of Chechens without exception where they shot the video and seized their extra villages in a fever. And recent skirmishes in Astrakhan between Kazakhs and Chechens - Chechens got a hot head.
          3. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 14 October 2013 11: 22 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Our indifference to each other.

            Well, this is also a consequence of the competent policy of "Our" government, so to speak. Kara Murza lucidly wrote about this in the "Manipulation of consciousness."
          4. AK-47
            AK-47 14 October 2013 12: 20 New
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            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Our indifference to each other.
          5. rolik
            rolik 14 October 2013 12: 53 New
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Our indifference to each other.

            Raised by a 20 year race for the dough. Money replaced conscience, mind, and honor, unfortunately. And this is an integral part of the bright path to a free - market economy. The economy, without state control (90s) when everyone was only his own friend and brother.
      2. domokl
        domokl 14 October 2013 08: 54 New
        -14
        Quote: Gleb
        animals kill people thereby leading people to such actions

        Gleb, what kind of animals? A specific contingent lives in Biryulyovo. Most of them are former limiters and their descendants (first, maximum second generation), then migrants (a cheap area, wild and divorced from civilization. You can only get on buses or by train. Well and recently arrived (10 years) Muscovites, residents of the former five-story buildings. The lawlessness has always been there.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 14 October 2013 09: 25 New
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          Quote: domokl
          what animals? In Biryulyovo, a specific contingent lives. Most are former limiters and their descendants


          And of course, these are third-class people for Muscovites. And immigrants limit the filth can be killed.
          1. domokl
            domokl 14 October 2013 09: 37 New
            0
            Quote: Vadivak
            , this is for Muscovites third-class people. And immigrants limit the filth can be killed.

            Don’t talk nonsense. Who wrote this? Second, third, twenty-fifth grade ... You simply do not own the situation. In Moscow, Muscovites are relics for a long time. Limita is a relic of the USSR.
            They always kill everyone, especially in Moscow.
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 14 October 2013 09: 57 New
              +9
              Quote: domokl
              Who wrote this? Second, third, twenty-fifth grade ... You simply do not own the situation. In Moscow, Muscovites are relics of a long time ago. Limit is a relic of the USSR.


              You wrote, you won’t erase a word from a song. So rushing - I quote
              Quote: domokl
              The specific contingent lives in Biryulyovo. Most of them are former limiters and their descendants.
              1. domokl
                domokl 14 October 2013 10: 36 New
                0
                Quote: Vadivak

                You wrote, you won’t erase a word from a song. So rushing - I quote
                Quote: domokl
                The specific contingent lives in Biryulyovo. Most of them are former limiters and their descendants.

                And where is it about the second grade? Here is precisely the cause of the conflict.
              2. rolik
                rolik 14 October 2013 13: 01 New
                +5
                Quote: Vadivak
                You wrote, you won’t erase a word from a song. So rushing - I quote
                Quote: domokl
                The specific contingent lives in Biryulyovo. Most of them are former limiters and their descendants.

                You know, in Arkhangelsk there are also a lot of children and grandchildren of former convicts. After the war and before the war, they referred here to prisoners' settlements (working at timber processing enterprises), plus a lot of zones in the region. And what, let's consider the residents of Arkhangelsk and the region as third-class people. But with blacks, our situation is not so acute, and they are not even asked to build mosques. The only thing celebrated every year at one of the stadiums is the Tatar Sabantuy. But I have not heard a single case of collision with the Tatars.
        2. New Russia
          New Russia 14 October 2013 11: 32 New
          14
          "A specific contingent lives in Biryulyovo. Most of them are former limiters and their descendants."
          What contingent? What are the limiters? There people live like us! If you think that in some other place in Russia people, if they are invited to a meeting or find out about it, will not run to wet the migrants and Caucasians, you live in your own world. There is no single nation with these and there will not be, that some people still hope through stupidity that the authorities who created this situation themselves and decide it for a short time, most already understand everything, and those who do not understand still understand the main thing, life cannot be changed and since this power will never change its mind its end is obvious
        3. Gennady1973
          Gennady1973 14 October 2013 11: 53 New
          11
          (a cheap area, wild and divorced from civilization. You can only get by bus or train). are you talking about now Are there people of the second grade? are you elected in the center? if the capital is "wild" !!! what about us about the "province" you say ??? did you see your own family tree “limits” ???
        4. Garrin
          Garrin 14 October 2013 13: 26 New
          +6
          Quote: domokl
          Gleb, what kind of animals? In Biryulyovo, a specific contingent lives. Most are former limiters and their descendants (first, maximum second generation)

          When they began to build Biryulyovo and Orekhovo-Borisovo, there, just settled the native Muscovites from the center, who were resettled from communal apartments. In the late 60s, early 70s, I had a lot of acquaintances, friends and relatives moved there. Later ZIL and AZLK households. the way they began to build houses there.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 14 October 2013 09: 16 New
      24
      Quote: regin
      They don’t need a cohesive country.


      Who is united with? With the beast? with those who lived and live in our country as in the enemy rear? Show me a working gypsy - fooling around and drug trafficking in Tula have built a whole city behind a fence, that the authorities do not know about it? He knows, but he doesn’t do it because he is lured. So they got Biryulyovo. There will be more
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 14 October 2013 08: 17 New
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    The police department said that the riots in Biryulyovo were not provoked by local residents, but by rioters who came here.

    Riots are the result of stupid domestic policies of the authorities! The authorities are now making another mistake, initiating criminal proceedings against the Russians. Further blood will not be measured when a couple of million go out onto the streets. What kind of riot police will stop it.
    1. queen
      queen 14 October 2013 08: 20 New
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      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      when a couple of millions will go to the streets

      The negative is getting younger, and this unbridled mass will no longer be stopped.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 14 October 2013 08: 37 New
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        Quote: regin
        and this unbridled mass will no longer be stopped.

        It is possible to stop for now, if the authorities begin to load Caucasians into commodities and send them to their villages. But our government will not follow this. hi
        1. queen
          queen 14 October 2013 08: 45 New
          +5
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          send them to their villages. But our government will not follow this

          And they, too, will not go for it. Everything is already neglected to the limit. Extreme and harsh measures are needed.
        2. Asgard
          Asgard 14 October 2013 08: 49 New
          37
          It’s going to go in commodities itself ....
          And migrants will make their way through the forests (THIS was already in Kondopoga)))
          For two days the police did not see the police (only riot police cordons on the roads and flocks of "black women" with children making their way through the forest, away from Kondopoga .....
          If they try to "drown out the conflict", then the authorities and the police can begin to "smoke bamboo" .......

          Another interesting fact is that OMON was reluctant against the People (the bulk)))
          It was evident that on civilian clothing "civilian clothes" had already been prepared)))))))
          1. olegff68
            olegff68 14 October 2013 09: 12 New
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            Quote: Asgard
            Another interesting fact is that OMON was reluctant against the People (the bulk))) It was evident that civilian clothes had already been prepared on the hitchhikers))))))) [/ b]

            No one needs the attention of the crowd to spread to him, especially since they mostly agree with her.
            And I don’t think that fighters who spend 6 months a year in the Caucasus are so afraid of the crowd, most of whom were even afraid to join the army.
            The fact is that all the blood will then be hanged on them anyway, for their actions or inaction, and the authorities, as always, will remain on the sidelines.
            1. fzr1000
              fzr1000 14 October 2013 09: 55 New
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              Do not compare a business trip to the Caucasus and confrontation with several thousands of uncontrollable young people who, although they did not join the army, went to the basement, to the rocking chair, and to the pears. Not all young people drink and smoke, and I have seen others. And also do not forget that there is also an ideological moment — the majority of the people are for these young people, and support in this matter is not the last moment.
          2. gladiatorakz
            gladiatorakz 14 October 2013 11: 07 New
            +4
            Quote: Asgard
            Another interesting fact is that OMON was reluctant against the People (the bulk)))
            It was evident that on civilian clothing "civilian clothes" had already been prepared)))))))

            Yes, the riot police are mostly normal combat guys. But they themselves see what is happening, that’s not a desire to mate. Question: Do their eyes open earlier or will the authorities begin to replace them with Caucasians? )))
        3. GDP
          GDP 14 October 2013 09: 40 New
          -13
          The created tense situation in Moscow and negative feelings towards migrants are the result of inaction or inability to cope with the situation of the entire government - from the president to local self-government. An attempt to solve all interethnic issues at the expense of the tolerance of the Russian population can go sideways ...
          BUT! Do not forget.
          Caucasians are the same citizens of Russia as we are. Either we must separate the republics of the North Caucasus from Russia, or we must not tell them where to live ...
          Another thing is that nothing is being done in order to introduce them to a civilized culture and law-abiding.
          It is necessary to change the consciousness of all the Caucasian and Russian nations. So that the Caucasians themselves do not feel that they live in a hostile country and at the same time, that they live in accordance with the laws and customs of the territories in which they live ...
          The key to solving the problem is not nationalism, but internationalism! But it should be mutual, and not one-sided as it is now.

          Another point, if Russian citizens or foreigners move to a temporary residence in another national region, the authorities should have guarantees that they will be provided with all the necessary minimum. If they do not have such an opportunity not to allow them to move to other regions ... This should reduce crime among them by an order of magnitude ...
          1. rereture
            rereture 14 October 2013 09: 55 New
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            How many Russians must die in order for a Caucasian to become civilized?
            The correct answer is everything.

            We are tired of watching that we are being humiliated, they are killing us, watch the news on the criminal chronicle, every third crime is Caucasians.
            Shooting in St. Petersburg - Caucasians.
            The murder of a guy in Pugachev Caucasians.
            Shooting on the track (this is every day) - Caucasians.

            Are you tired of yourself?
            1. Russ69
              Russ69 14 October 2013 23: 14 New
              0
              Quote: rereture
              Shooting in St. Petersburg - Caucasians.
              The murder of a guy in Pugachev Caucasians.
              Shooting on the track (this is every day) - Caucasians.


              When the Russians or something else do something similar, the media don’t write, nobody is interested. Happened and happened, and if they write, then no one is discussing.
              I do not condone the insolent children of the mountains, but in the criminal chronicle, events involving Caucasians and Asians provoke passions, all the rest, alas, are commonplace ...
              1. rereture
                rereture 14 October 2013 23: 54 New
                +2
                When they do their own thing, this is one thing, but when God forbid the Russian “child of the mountains” does something, then immediately article 282 of the Criminal Code “inciting ethnic hatred”, and if the “presumptuous child of the mountains” kills the Russian, then “domestic murder” .

                Shooting in St. Petersburg - Caucasians.


                Something I did not see that the Russian guys arrived by car and with the cries of "Alah Akbar" shot a nightclub.
          2. gladiatorakz
            gladiatorakz 14 October 2013 11: 09 New
            +1
            Quote: GDP
            Caucasians are the same citizens of Russia as we are. Either we must separate the republics of the North Caucasus from Russia, or we must not tell them where to live ...

            Only must indicate HOW to live!
            1. GDP
              GDP 14 October 2013 11: 33 New
              +2
              By itself. Laws should be the same for everyone. Everything should be decided in fairness - this is the main feature of our people.
              1. gladiatorakz
                gladiatorakz 14 October 2013 11: 49 New
                +3
                Quote: GDP
                By itself. Laws should be the same for everyone. Everything should be decided in fairness - this is the main feature of our people.

                And why do you put an equal sign between law and justice? These are different things !!! The law that draws ... And justice is life in truth. So before the people and lived in truth. And in the Soul she stirs yet.
          3. andr1966a
            andr1966a 14 October 2013 11: 14 New
            +5
            Quote: GDP
            Caucasians are the same citizens of Russia as we are. Either we must separate the republics of the North Caucasus from Russia, or we must not tell them where to live ...

            Stalin did not stop these "citizens of Russia" to resettle in Russia in 48 hours (Chechens). And there was a friendship of peoples to the core. Caucasian people only understand the power
          4. Turtles
            Turtles 14 October 2013 15: 11 New
            +1
            I believe that the situation can be resolved only by applying the principle that the law is the same for everyone. In this case, everything will be decided simply, you do not live by the law, you are welcome to the northern regions. Not a single criminal case can be let down, especially on the nationality of the perpetrator of the crime. For any person living in Russia or temporarily located on its territory, an unshakable rule must be set aside: either you live by law, or behind barbed wire, under the sights of automatic guards.
        4. Goldmitro
          Goldmitro 14 October 2013 11: 14 New
          +2
          <<< Alexander Romanov
          It is possible to stop so far if the authorities start loading Caucasians into commodities and sending them to their villages. But our government will not see this >>>
          All this will not solve the problem! All these are pawns or, in the jargon of the 90s, “infantry” which do not solve anything. The authorities must begin with those who are behind this infantry, who steer it! Look - who owns all these shopping centers, vegetable bases, markets and not only them. Now, if the authorities take HOW IT SHOULD BE ... for all these owners of the Cherkizons, united in diasporas, which are essentially mafia roofs for the entire illegal migrant trash, and start checking them for the legality of their possession of huge pieces of property in Moscow, then, for sure, they themselves will quickly and efficiently restore order among their fellow tribesmen and do it faster than the Moscow police and riot police!
    2. svp67
      svp67 14 October 2013 08: 29 New
      27
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      What the hell riot police stop.

      There are already "bells". Riot police could not stop the "crowd", and in general it is time to use the word "horde", in the sense of "irregular power." The Horde already has a “core,” very united and prepared to conduct such fights a “core”, around which “partisans” rally. She also conducts propaganda very skillfully ... As a result, I conclude that this is STRENGTH, the only thing that is not clear is WHO is their LEADER? I am afraid that our "rotten power" is increasingly creating the conditions under which Russia begins to resemble Germany 20-30 years of the 20 century ...
      1. Danilka
        Danilka 14 October 2013 08: 56 New
        -7
        Do you have a parish of the new Fuhrer (Lenin) and his associates?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 14 October 2013 09: 40 New
          -1
          Quote: Danilka
          Do you have a parish of the new Fuhrer (Lenin) and his associates?

          Lenin and his associates, the first to Magadan!
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 14 October 2013 10: 02 New
            -3
            Lenin was already exiled once, we know what came of it, right away at a cost.
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 14 October 2013 09: 29 New
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        Quote: svp67
        Riot police could not stop the "crowd"


        Most likely did not want to. They probably also care.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 14 October 2013 10: 05 New
          14
          Riot policemen are the same citizens and believe many of them are more nationalists than those who took to the streets of Biryulyovo.
          1. michajlo
            michajlo 14 October 2013 19: 41 New
            0
            Hello dear Maxim!

            You say that these are OMON officers, also citizens of the Russian Federation, and police and FSB officers.
            ................

            So why on the ORDER of the occupation authorities will they all OBEDIENTLY go to beat, intimidate and shoot at their own people ?!

            Where is the logic here?

            So it means to beat a pensioner who encourages his fellow citizens that dare to stand up against the rink of betrayal and treason, in your opinion, EXECUTION of official duty for the nth RUBLES (that is, for the INCREASED salary and pension).

            And to protect the city headman (embezzler of the city) from the wrath of these fellow citizens is also the performance of official duty !?

            Or maybe, all the same, the DUTY of a policeman, riot policeman, fighter of the BB, FSB eshnik- ALL THOSE PROTECT your people from the SALES AUTHORITIES, THIEVES and CHAIRS who live today, and who do not give a damn what will happen to its citizens in 5 or 10 years ?!

            What do you answer me, my rhetorical question is not at all?

            Because over the next 1-2 years, the answers to a similar question will have to be GIVEN ONCE or TIME to many people in uniform and without them (Ministry of Internal Affairs, VV, FSB, etc.) ...

            After all, in life there is a limit !!!
            ..................
            This is only to snickering "fat cats" and "taxis", it seems that the solution to any problem depends only on the thickness of the bundle of banknotes?

            And the old people say that it’s good when you have money and you can “pay for services and goods,” but you still have to they wanted to accept !!!
            1. matross
              matross 14 October 2013 20: 58 New
              +2
              Quote: michajlo
              Or maybe all the same the DUTY of a policeman, riot police, a fighter of the BB, FSB-eshnik- ALL THOSE PROTECT your people from the SALES AUTHORITY, THIEVES and CHAINS

              This is nothing more than demagogy. Their duty consists, briefly, in protecting the rule of law and protecting the constitutional order. In any country. Under any authority. Otherwise, chaos.
              PS To attentive readers, even of this brief article, it is clear on whose side the police are actually ...
              1. 31231
                31231 14 October 2013 21: 50 New
                +2
                When a murmur in a dark alley fucks you up or a car is stolen, Sherlock Homs will go and complain.
                I am ashamed of such people. If only one of you tried on their problems. Just crap. But what’s the matter, so run to the police.
      3. Russ69
        Russ69 14 October 2013 09: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: svp67
        There are already "bells". Riot police could not stop the "crowd", and in general it is time to use the word "horde", in the sense of "irregular strength." The Horde already has a “core,” very united and prepared to conduct such fights a “core”, around which “partisans” rally. She also conducts propaganda very skillfully ... As a result, I conclude that this is STRENGTH, the only thing that is not clear is WHO is their LEADER?

        If, the crowd starts pogroms, for allegedly good purposes, and it can not be stopped at the beginning. Then in the future, all the strangers and their own will fall under pogroms.
        For justifying the crime of some, the crime of others is stupid.
      4. lexe
        lexe 14 October 2013 16: 32 New
        0
        I’m afraid that our “rotten power” is increasingly creating the conditions under which Russia begins to resemble Germany of the 20-30s of the 20th century ...


        Yes, and anyone would not be a scribe.It would be better of course the king.
        The Russian people are the brain of the planet — its progress. And the world elite has long been addicted to progress — they are drug addicts in general. And the Russian people are its dose.What are we going to do with Narik-Heal?For their benefit, by the way ...
        And they won’t go to breaking the brain because progress is their god. So the Russian people are their overlord, and they know this ... And the Russian people are dearer to them than any people on the planet. However, they hide it very skillfully by imposing slavery on us.
        But they still did not understand that Russian geniuses did not think well in shackles, which means that their final goal by previous methods is not achievable.
        So give me back the Russian Empire... and maybe ... the Russian people will give you one of the planets. But you will die from a brain rupture, how to live and why to live.
    3. Danilka
      Danilka 14 October 2013 08: 54 New
      +9
      The GUVD is such a police department ... the rioters are not a cause but a consequence!
    4. domokl
      domokl 14 October 2013 09: 01 New
      -10
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      . Further blood will not be measured when a couple of millions go out onto the streets. What the hell is the riot police stopping.

      Hi SASh. You wrote the signature, I'm sorry. There will be nothing further. You forgot that it is Moscow. And Biryuleva is a cesspool. A cesspool is torn from Moscow. The activists will be transplanted and transplanted. That's all we passed in 1993 ...
      The security forces of Moscow can almost independently catch any speech. The riot police will call the extreme police from the nearest areas. And these are generally crazy .. Hatred of Muscovites, you know.
      The rest of the country again perceives these events as internal showdowns of snickering Muscovites and will not do anything at all.
      1. svp67
        svp67 14 October 2013 09: 10 New
        +9
        Quote: domokl
        Activists will be caught and transplanted and that’s it.

        They catch those who did not have time or could not hide, and this is usually someone from the "partisans" or "Makhnovists", the "horde" knows how to get away from such "sweeps" and "pull" their own from the "prison".
        The comrade, who had previously left the army as a police officer, complained that the "horde" clearly "works" better than the "police" and seems to have "its own" people "at the top" ..
      2. baltika-18
        baltika-18 14 October 2013 09: 27 New
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        Quote: domokl
        Hate Muscovites, you understand.
        The rest of the country again perceives these events as internal showdowns of snickering Muscovites and will not do anything at all.

        You are lying, domocles. The province does not perceive it that way.
        We were brought in by the Uzbeks themselves. Four of them were abused that week to satisfy sexual needs, four of them were there. But they burst, a woman 36 years old, married. That same evening they were found and beaten, all in the hospital, two in in serious condition. The whole village knows who beat and for what, but the police did not even lift a finger.
        Muscovites' problems in this regard are close to us.
        Quote: svp67
        I’m afraid that our “rotten power” is increasingly creating the conditions under which Russia begins to resemble Germany of the 20-30s of the 20th century ...

        But this is the scenario for next year. And as a result of the change of power in 2015-2016, especially given the stagnation of the economy and the onset of the crisis.
        1. domokl
          domokl 14 October 2013 09: 44 New
          -18
          Quote: baltika-18
          You are lying, domocles. The province does not perceive it that way.

          Well, well ... And you ask those Muscovites who lived in Moscow in October 93. You can talk about anything now. And I say what I saw myself.
          Quote: baltika-18
          . The whole village knows who beat and for what, but the police did not even lift a finger.

          And how are you different from the lads of the 90s? With pride to write about lawlessness? And then to write, I want the laws to be implemented, I want me to live in a country where criminals are caught and imprisoned ... You’re the bandits yourself. The most real. your village.
          Why the hell are you laws and all the other nonsense? You yourself are quietly investigating. Do you have your own opera, trackers, executioners ...
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 14 October 2013 10: 00 New
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            Quote: domokl
            And how are you different from the lads of the 90s

            Quote: domokl
            ..You are the bandits yourself. The most real. The whole village is yours.

            And call it what you like. They showed who the boss is in the house and what you should behave decently. They now do not go out of the house where they live. But they used to rummage, they molested the young girls. But the youngsters are young, but then I’m sorry for adult men .
            1. domokl
              domokl 14 October 2013 10: 42 New
              -6
              Quote: baltika-18
              And call it what you want. They showed who the owner of the house is and that they should behave decently.

              So they agreed. And what's next? Surely among the relatives of these half-killed there is at least one normal man. He will start to take revenge. And he will start right. Let not in your village, in another. But it will be exactly the same. And again, we’ll start yelling and are they killing?
              I myself can stand up for myself, but I have always been against lawlessness. There is already enough blood.
          2. 31231
            31231 14 October 2013 11: 05 New
            0
            No use explaining to him. A person does not really understand what chaos and a herd of sheep are led by provocateurs and puppeteers. Sheeps just get the sheep’s terms, and the priests of Gapona will continue to call in the contacts to sharpen knives.
          3. Ustas
            Ustas 14 October 2013 13: 49 New
            +5
            Quote: domokl
            What the hell do you need laws and all the other nonsense?

            Laws should be the same for everyone. But when in Russia they live more equal than equals ... And then the crowd boils.
            When they steal billions and sit under house arrest ...
            Or when a bag of potatoes (just from hunger and hopelessness) is planted in all severity ...
            Where is the justice of the law? ...
        2. military
          military 14 October 2013 10: 35 New
          +6
          Quote: baltika-18
          but the police didn’t even lift a finger.

          sorry ... I could add such apricots from myself ...
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 14 October 2013 11: 37 New
            +6
            Quote: military
            sorry ... I could add such apricots from myself ..

            The main thing that took the side of the indigenous population.
        3. 31231
          31231 14 October 2013 11: 02 New
          0
          But this is the scenario for next year. And as a result of the change of power in 2015-2016, especially given the stagnation of the economy and the onset of the crisis.


          2011. Egypt. Mursik. Muslim brothers.

          Do you at least realize that you offer the same radical things ?!
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 14 October 2013 14: 55 New
            +2
            Quote: 31231
            Do you at least realize that you offer the same radical things ?!

            I don’t propose, but suppose. I am not clairvoyant, maybe fortunately, or maybe unfortunately, but I consider this option most likely in the current situation in the country. Take off your pink glasses and look at the reality surrounding you, abstracting from the imposed opinion of those who hold power. .
            Wait a short time. Let's see who turns out to be right.
            1. 31231
              31231 14 October 2013 17: 04 New
              -1
              Take off your pink glasses and look at the reality surrounding you, abstracting from the imposed opinions of those holding power.


              But there are no other arguments ?! And then “take off your pink glasses” and “imposing opinions by the authorities” somehow do not impress me. I am impressed by the growth of economic indicators in comparison with the 90s, an improvement in living standards, a decrease in emigration to the West, and an increase in the birth rate. Or do you need a revolution and the new 90s or 20s of the last century?
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 14 October 2013 18: 03 New
                +5
                Quote: 31231
                I am impressed by the growth of economic indicators compared to the 90s
                And what indicators, acre of prices, are rising? And with what 90s do we compare - with the 93rd or the 99th?

                improving living standards
                WHERE? !!!

                reduction of emigration to the West
                Those who wanted and could have already left.

                birth rate increase
                In the country, or in the original Russian territories?

                Or do you need a revolution and the new 90s or 20s of the last century?
                How about simple compliance with the constitution?
                1. 31231
                  31231 14 October 2013 22: 10 New
                  0
                  GDP: 93rd - less than 0,5 trillion.
                  2012 - 2 trillion.
                  unemployment: 93rd - about 6%
                  97th - about 12%
                  13th - 5,76%
                  fertility / mortality
                  Population: 11-year - just above zero.
                  12-year - profit of more than 10 thousand

                  What can I explain to you? Previously, the country borrowed money from the IMF, now it itself lends to many.
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 15 October 2013 15: 19 New
                    +1
                    Quote: 31231
                    GDP: 93rd - less than 0,5 trillion.
                    2012 - 2 trillion
                    GDP - the market value of final goods and services, that is, the total SUM of concluded deals - what has increased, except for prices?

                    unemployment: 93rd - about 6%
                    97th - about 12%
                    13th - 5,76%
                    Has anyone correlated with the "natural" population decline?

                    fertility / mortality
                    Population: 11-year - just above zero.
                    12-year - profit of more than 10 thousand
                    For the period 79-89, there is a peak in fertility.
                    Look at the statistics for the regions - at the expense of whom there is an increase (the population of one Chechnya for the period 01-12 increased by more than 300 thousand).

                    What can I explain to you? Previously, the country borrowed money from the IMF, now it itself lends to many.
                    Since the 99th year, the price of oil has increased 10 times, the development of Western economies has led to an increase in energy consumption by 2 times.
              2. Ustas
                Ustas 15 October 2013 10: 11 New
                +2
                Quote: 31231
                I am impressed by the growth of economic indicators in comparison with the 90s, an improvement in living standards, a decrease in emigration to the West

                Our ardently highly respected Prime Minister DAM himself recognizes the decline in the economic development of the country. And you say growth!
                Now from personal observation: people began to buy less goods, only the most necessary, thanks to an uncontrollable increase in housing and communal services tariffs, etc. Salary growth has stopped, but prices are rising for everything.
                And you say "improving living standards."
                PS: Once in the USSR, economic growth was compared with growth in 1913. It may be enough to compare the current state of life with the 90s, then there were then 2000-2009, but there really was economic growth. And now the recession is most likely.
                1. tverskoi77
                  tverskoi77 15 October 2013 12: 51 New
                  +3
                  ... DAM Prime Minister himself recognizes the decline in the economic development of the country. And you say growth!

                  Gennady, don’t you know that some members of the forum are always trying to smooth out sharp corners. And when discussing topics that clearly reflect errors and inaction, corruption ... of the authorities, they are trying either to divert the discussion to another topic or correctly hush it up.
      3. Xroft
        Xroft 14 October 2013 09: 31 New
        +2
        People are just bored of living an ordinary life ... everyone wants a show (look at the recordings, 70% of people filmed everything on phones), and here is such an excuse to go see the fights without rules, especially on weekends. It will not go further biryulyovo, but it will give a call to the authorities about migrants who really are embarrassed by the whole of Moscow.
        1. 31231
          31231 14 October 2013 11: 07 New
          -1
          The shopping center was burned, cars, "non-Russians" were broken. Do you call this a show ?! And if these thugs set fire to your car ?! And your head would have been broken when you rushed with them into the analysis ?!
          Yeah. Give them a spectacle.
          1. Xroft
            Xroft 14 October 2013 11: 14 New
            +4
            I had in mind the reason for the mass action, of course this is not normal, but the modern generation perceives it as an entertainment program (families with children, young couples) they do not know and do not remember what such actions lead to .... The reason for the lack of purpose is people, in another article already written many cannot answer why do we need the state now? government institutions in general? Complete inaction and only a complication of people's lives, a complete negative to any work of officials (even if it is positive).
            Yes, people now need only Bread (alcohol) and Spectacle (events that happened).
            Ps This is the real problem of the country, and what will happen after Putin leaves? The cultural layer is empty, one match about the change of power and hello return of the 90s. Many young people think that the 90s is a romantic time when the strong one gets everything from life (cars, grandmothers, heifers) but they don’t understand about the collapse of the country / murder / decline in cultural morality, etc. Yes, they don’t want to explain to them either. They look at the former participants of the 90s either oligarchs / big businessmen, or large-scale legitimate politicians who put the device on the law / people, and about the fact that 95% has been in the graves for 10 years already don't want to remember.
            1. New Russia
              New Russia 14 October 2013 12: 53 New
              +1
              "the modern generation is perceived as exactly an entertainment program (families with children, young couples"

              Nonsense, everyone came to a spontaneous rally against Cove and not in order to remove it.

              "Many young people think that the 90s is a romantic time when the strong one gets everything from life (cars, grandmas, heifers)"

              Nonsense no one thinks so. And how much can you remember these 90s, except that the meager wages began to be paid and before they didn’t pay, there’s no difference, crime has become even worse because of the migrants.
              1. Xroft
                Xroft 14 October 2013 17: 29 New
                +3
                Why drag children to a * spontaneous rally *? You don’t give your opinion for the general, if you look at the video from the scene of the incident, then there are crowds of people with mobile phones and other recording devices under the giggle and hooting with a smile on their face all take off and go behind the * skeleton * of the crowd, which consisted of aggressive young people who came it’s not clear where.
              2. 31231
                31231 14 October 2013 22: 12 New
                +1
                Nonsense, everyone came to a spontaneous rally against Cove and not in order to remove it.


                At rallies, other people's property scumbags do not smash. This is a pogrom.
              3. Russ69
                Russ69 14 October 2013 23: 27 New
                0
                Quote: New Russia
                Nonsense, everyone came to a spontaneous rally against Cove and not in order to remove it.

                Part came, really at the rally, and with this part I completely agree. Unfortunately, this is sometimes the only way to stir up power.
                The other part came to bomb, that is, to bomb.
                Moreover, this part is no better than that of the Azeir-Bajan. Because give free rein and they will begin to kill worse than others. First, strangers, then their own, who do not think so, look askance and there will be a bunch of reasons. Moreover, this concerns not only our country, but also all other countries.
                And the third part, stupidly remove and put, in no, on all kinds of pages in order to prove their "creativity" ...
      4. Vadivak
        Vadivak 14 October 2013 09: 34 New
        17
        Quote: domokl
        The rest of the country again perceives these events as internal showdowns of snickering Muscovites and will not do anything at all.


        Snickering Muscovites do not beat immigrants. They are either their descendants themselves or live at their expense. And this case is a reaction to the murder of an innocent person, what is there incomprehensible ???
        1. domokl
          domokl 14 October 2013 09: 53 New
          0
          Quote: Vadivak
          Snickering Muscovites do not beat immigrants. They are either their descendants themselves or live at their expense.

          You already decide ... Muscovites beat or still closer to you the version of the Department of Internal Affairs of Moscow .. Type riot police came from somewhere and provoked lol And somehow it does not beat the comment with your others ...
        2. PureGUN
          PureGUN 14 October 2013 12: 07 New
          +1
          Why are you Muscovites so stuck in the liver ?!
      5. The comment was deleted.
      6. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 14 October 2013 09: 45 New
        17
        Quote: domokl
        Hello SAS. You wrote a sign, sorry

        Good San! I don’t really do not bullshit. They showed a meeting at Kolokoltsev, so there was not a word about Caucasians, but a bunch of words about drunk Russian provocateurs.
        Quote: domokl
        .You forgot that this is Moscow. And Biryuleva is a cesspool

        Now the matter is not in Moscow or Biryulyovo, now the point is that the Caucasians are insolent and people themselves already take to the streets and not only in Moscow.
        Cops all blame on the provocateurs, but there would be no problem, then no provocateur would have done anything.
        Quote: domokl
        The rest of the country again perceives these events as internal showdowns of snickering Muscovites

        Judging by the comments, he does not perceive at all. In every city there are such problems.
        1. domokl
          domokl 14 October 2013 10: 04 New
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          .Shcha showed the meeting at Kolokoltsev, so there is not a word about Caucasians, but a bunch of words about drunk Russian provocateurs.

          But what about 120 detained Caucasians? This was announced in the morning. (But here I only know from TV, I was not specifically interested in it yet)
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Now the matter is not in Moscow or Biryulyovo, now the point is that Caucasians are insolent and people themselves take to the streets and not only to Moscow

          And why? You did not think? Why do Caucasians feel their strength in Russian cities? Yes, simply because they bought the administration, police, prosecutor's office. Remember the comments on the same site. They describe how three Caucasians beat the driver on the road. Moreover, with hatred of the Caucasians. But not a single one there wasn’t a Russian peasant to get out of the car with his mount and smash it in brazen faces. That’s why I’m writing, there’ll be no shit. They’ll catch a dozen guys who have fixed the cameras, put them all ... Well, the Diaspora will from theirs to the slaughter .. Type killer.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Judging by the comments, he does not perceive at all. In every city there are such problems.

          Here I am about the same thing ... Ponte, only ponte ... You know, like, if ... then I ... and so ... I read and grin sadly. The Russians crushed, oh crushed ...
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 14 October 2013 10: 08 New
          +6
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          but if there was no problem, then no provocateur would do anything.


          That's it.

          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          so there is not a word about Caucasians, but a bunch of words about drunk Russian provocateurs.


          The drunken Russian provocateurs would have been heading the GUVD, everything would have been, on the contrary
      7. 31231
        31231 14 October 2013 10: 48 New
        +1
        The rest of the country again perceives these events as internal showdowns of snickering Muscovites and will not do anything at all.


        I personally do not grieve to participate in the analysis of the Natsik with the non-Russians. The first frostbitten on the head, and the second like wolves in a strange forest. To plant all those to blame and no concessions regarding nationality. Yes, the liberot will immediately conquer "the Russians have not been planted for anything." Only when these frostbitten Natsiks break their heads to anyone, then it may come to be that they are criminals, and kings of Solomon.

        I don’t like the crowd’s calls to sharpen knives. Murcia in Egypt, the same young scumbags radicals brought.
  • fklj
    14 October 2013 08: 23 New
    21
    If the government doesn’t stop moving away from resolving the long-overdue issue, it may soon become ILLEGAL ...

    But there is only one solution - a suitcase, a station, a sunny village. Everything else is half measures
  • Asgard
    Asgard 14 October 2013 08: 33 New
    21
    _Soon the riot police and the police will be led by "other People", said Kolokoltsov))))
    As I understand it, the people showed that they are strong, they have no support in the government, even among the cops)))
    The next "riot" will begin the massacre (the pogrom was)))
    Hot Autumn begins ......................................
    1. Danilka
      Danilka 14 October 2013 08: 58 New
      +4
      Russian rebellion is terrible and merciless. Who said that?
      Other people? From the rearrangement, the amount does not change ...
    2. georg737577
      georg737577 14 October 2013 10: 59 New
      +4
      ...- Soon the riot police and the police will be led by "other People," said Kolokoltsov ...

      That Caucasians and will lead. They have enough money. Then it will become quite interesting.
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 14 October 2013 10: 07 New
    10
    Our worthless, thieves power disrespectful of its citizens is disgusting.
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 14 October 2013 14: 18 New
      +5
      That's how our cops work. This is how Caucasians behave, this is how they poison us in the open. And again, instead of the cops, simple guys decide questions, maybe from Biryulyovo ...
      1. Rustam
        Rustam 14 October 2013 15: 32 New
        -1
        Ruslan_F38
        That's how our cops work. This is how Caucasians behave, this is how they poison us in the open


        Then Ostap suffered, we will analyze this video
        That's how our cops work

        The police are to blame for the fact that the spice was not listed in the table until September 16 of this year, and nothing was shining for the sellers of this foolishness — can ask a question to those who are adding the drugs to the table?

        This is how Caucasians behave, this is how they poison us in the open


        Lead? and who likes that they remove the cha, probably inappropriately buy this nonsense, right?

        And again, instead of the cops, simple guys decide questions, maybe from Biryulyovo ..


        Why didn’t they decide on the issue then? But ran away? if they stayed, they turned the kaenn, they would have turned up, etc. Here the Asian in ten is normal, in the order of things

        Yes, now for storing spice-article 228 p1 from September 16, 2013
  • Skiff
    Skiff 14 October 2013 10: 52 New
    +4
    On the eve of the acting Alexander Polovinka, chief of the Internal Affairs Directorate for the Southern Administrative District of the capital, said that information about the lack of information about the progress of the investigation about the murder of Yegor Shcherbakov to his relatives was only a cause for unrest.
    No comments......
  • goldfinger
    goldfinger 14 October 2013 11: 32 New
    +6
    Quote: svp67
    If the government doesn’t stop moving away from resolving the long-overdue issue, it may soon become ILLEGAL ...

    The most paradoxical is that Putin does not support the introduction of a visa regime between the former republics and Russia. And across this border all rubbish climbs to you because of the far abroad through the holey borders of the Central Asian countries. In addition, he has a nostalgic dream of reviving what died back in 1991. His stupid reluctance to see emerging problems amid inter-ethnic hatred leads the country, in addition to economic collapse, to human tragedies. Power, not respected by the people and based on fear and repression, will fall sooner or later!
    1. goldfinger
      goldfinger 14 October 2013 22: 20 New
      +3
      Letter to the President.
      "Moscow's comsomolets".
      Mr. President, real unrest has occurred in the capital of your controlled Russia. If you want, the words "controlled by you" can be deleted. But if you want to remove the word "real", then we will not concede.

      Too much in our lives has become unreal. Political parties, peace in the Caucasus, happy residents of Sochi, some results of some elections ...

      Imitation (fake) captures more and more space, and it can not end in good. Recently, one man portrayed the president for four years. We were told that it was the light of reason. But in reality, he only increased the darkness (unsuccessfully manipulated time).
      Millions of civil servants have been militia-police for many years. She’s dressed better and better, her salary is bigger, her helmets are stronger, her batons are more modern - have we begun to feel better protected?
      The authorities are constantly talking about the real fight against corruption, but the “Serdyukov case” shows that this is not a fight, but an imitation, a phantom.
      You, Mr. President, have appointed a person who has portrayed the Secretary of Defense for five years. You have appointed another who represents the Minister of Culture. Hundreds more depict the parliament, the people elected ...
      Several million civil servants portray caring for the people. If this concern were real, the people would love officials, or at least respect. But the real feelings of people are completely different. And officials know this and hide from people.
      But endlessly, illusion cannot exist.
      When a phantom collides with reality, one of them collapses. It is generally accepted that it is always destroyed by a phantom. Alas, not right away. The phantom of building communism has been destroying reality for decades. And when it nevertheless collapsed, the reality crawled out from under the rubble completely ugly - in some places fascist, in some places Turkmen (politically), in some places thieves.
      On paper, migrants are labor. In reality, a threat. Residents of Russia believe that this is the biggest threat. There are even more migrants in America, but there it is a problem, not a threat. Why?
      Because we are not America. Mr. President, note the obvious difference. Russian radio stations around the clock every half hour report the dollar. US radio stations do not say a word about the ruble. The local police are just as radically different from ours.
      We are told: they say, migrants work in all civilized countries. Thus, we are, as it were, recorded in civilized ones. On the one hand, this is certainly true. Almost universal literacy, jeans (and not loincloths made from banana peels), three televisions in each apartment. On the screens, political spellcasters and sorcerers promise stability, order ...
      But, going out into the street, a person gets into reality. Unpleasant. Non-television. Hostile. A person behaves correctly (as taught), stands up for a girl, or for a child, or for his own dignity, and he is stabbed with a knife.
      But, indeed, not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. Although I'm not a fan of this newspaper.
  • michajlo
    michajlo 14 October 2013 15: 33 New
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    The outskirts of Moscow illegally opposed migrants.
    If the government doesn’t stop moving away from resolving the long-overdue issue, it may soon become ILLEGAL ...
    Zhenya (1) RU Today, 08:12 you have no idea what’s going on here :) All for the forceful solution of the issue, right up to the toughest, not a lot of oil and that’s all ....

    Hello everyone!

    Yes, already on Monday morning, the state Slovak radio (savoring * uki) talks about the pogroms in Moscow, and that they say (the police reinforced the outfits on Red Square and the Kremlin’s guards) ?! That there is truth to this, I do not know, but ...

    And now the flowers appeared ... angry fool

    And the few who have long said that Russia is undergoing "deliberate replacement of Russians by migrant workers from the Caucasus and Central Asia" is just providing "Russian businessmen with non-Russian surnames with cheap slaves WITHOUT rights, "and a decrease in the level of salaries of Russians, as many cheers-patriots have called here? Remember yet?
    Then the people who were talking about such a danger, even before the bonfire of the bacchanalia of the maddened crowd blazed, as they called it? (provocateurs, "with a swamp spirit", "screaming at the American embassy"). I have listened to such epithets more than once. I didn’t get away from this, I speak from myself, and not for the sake of profit.

    But also what to do now, when did the pogroms begin?

    Urgently employ young people without work, residents of Moscow and the outskirts, so that they do not wander around the streets, dens and pubs, But did you have work and responsibility for it? Restore circles, gyms, stadiums (and not private ones with a criminal trainer, but STATE ones with care for educating young people and organizing their free time).

    But it turns out that the "Soviet experience" of school, education, physical education and sports was not bad at all, it’s just everywhere there are a lot of “reformers / managers” instead of “perestroika”, the occupation authorities pushed into the authorities and governing bodies.

    And with all this, as a reaction of several hundred or pairs of thousands of Muscovites and people from the outskirts of the capital, to the already familiar “street murder” of a Russian guy from the Caucasus or CA, it was just “a bunch of lovers to beat, to break windows and well done show "(i.e., football fans + drunk + self-natsik).

    Since the “occupational power” indulged in “the demand of cheap migrant slaves,” it itself CREATED a vacuum of power and the rule of law.

    And it’s quite logical that self-nominated Natsik will FILL him, then “street” and “district squads” will appear, and then, those who go in police uniform and explosives will be happy if they return (run away) from the “semi-military” alive -action "against his own people ...

    Continuation No. 2 >>>
  • michajlo
    michajlo 14 October 2013 15: 35 New
    +2
    Continuation No. 2 >>>

    And besides everything, just imagine for a moment that in the evening on the street, YOUR son, nephew, grandson, to whom you prepared a present for his wedding, was killed ?!

    And then dear, for whom you will stand:

    - for power, which apart from TAXES and COLLECTIONS wants nothing from you, and you give it a damn,

    - or for some new self-proclaimed “defender of the people” with a mustache and a screaming “z * g * ayl!”, and promising (to begin with, to gather supporters) that he is ready for you “to die yourself!”

    And then wonder where the "Hitlers" come from?

    And a little more for thought.

    It’s just that hooligans and “massacre lovers” have gathered, who were supported by the words HOME residents tired of the dominance of migrants.

    But just imagine that against the “police cordon” and “autosacks”, the same crowd will be led and will be shown how to precisely “eliminate the enemy” and our “Afghans and Chechens” without any extra gestures !?
    And from the sidewalks they will be thanked and encouraged by pensioners, disabled people and adults with children ?!

    I mean the veterans of the military, who "tasted the taste of blood" and who, after they became disabled or "had their roof removed," became a burden for the native state, which itself sent them to these same wars. And of which, fate threw ON the side of life.
    Everyone knows that after any war, people with disabilities remain, both physical and mental, and in our post-Soviet Union, what kind of power did you try to do with them?

    But the authorities would have to transfer the next kindred thieves from the “Detainees” to “Witnesses”, show the new Olympics and show off other “salon” and “Peterhof” games themselves.

    And for the victims in the Far East, ordinary citizens collect help by SMS, money and other gifts.
  • Siberian German
    Siberian German 14 October 2013 19: 23 New
    +1
    Representatives of national diasporas immediately responded to the riots. The head of the Russian Migrant Federation, Muhammad Amin, appealed to them not to leave home. “In different areas of Moscow there may be attacks. Nationalists are very aggressive, ”he told Interfax. According to Mr. Amin, it is better for migrants and foreigners in general “not to walk and not to visit public places”. - Mlyn, the head of the federation noted aggressive nationalists, but about his Genghis Khan who are leading, it’s obvious that he doesn’t say goodies. Now the news broadcast has been detained by 1200 people speaking in the biryulevo - so what should we expect now that everybody chooses ... the eyes will come from there and cut us
    1. 31231
      31231 14 October 2013 22: 15 New
      -2
      held by 1200 people speaking in biryulevo


      Oh, wei! Even 1200 ?! And what is not a mullion ?! In contactees, so "true" information was revealed to you ?!
  • Alikovo
    Alikovo 14 October 2013 08: 15 New
    13
    Yesterday I saw this news on TV, in my head immediately flashed: for the murder of a local, cut 10 visitors.
    1. queen
      queen 14 October 2013 08: 23 New
      17
      Quote: Alikovo
      and killing a local, cut out 10 visitors.

      Guys, don’t be like animals ... but 10 rhinos should be planted on an ice floe and sent around the world ... I think it will be more humane.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 14 October 2013 08: 39 New
      23
      Quote: Alikovo
      immediately flashed a head: for killing a local, cut 10 visitors.

      The entire Caucasian elite in the cars and on Magadan! Although what am I talking about when Georgian thieves in law in Moscow feel much better than in their native Georgia.
    3. Danilka
      Danilka 14 October 2013 09: 00 New
      0
      SS methods ... survived ... but if the tumor goes like this, chemotherapy cannot be cured, you need to CUT !!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 14 October 2013 09: 46 New
        +3
        Quote: Danilka
        SS methods ... survived ..

        Who survived the people or power leads to this?
        1. gladiatorakz
          gladiatorakz 14 October 2013 11: 10 New
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Who survived the people or power leads to this?

          Both those and those. Power is its venality. The people are indifferent.
      2. KEKS44
        KEKS44 14 October 2013 11: 02 New
        +8
        Quote: Danilka
        SS methods ... survived ... but if the tumor goes like this, chemotherapy cannot be cured, you need to CUT !!

        Biryulevsky pogrom is not the best method of dealing with migrants. But with the complete inaction of the authorities, probably the most effective. If we get around the problem, we will wait for the fact that migrants will organize pogroms as in Europe. This is exactly n ... q will be!
    4. Danilka
      Danilka 14 October 2013 09: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: domokl
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      . Further blood will not be measured when a couple of millions go out onto the streets. What the hell is the riot police stopping.

      Hi SASh. You wrote the signature, I'm sorry. There will be nothing further. You forgot that it is Moscow. And Biryuleva is a cesspool. A cesspool is torn from Moscow. The activists will be transplanted and transplanted. That's all we passed in 1993 ...
      The security forces of Moscow can almost independently catch any speech. The riot police will call the extreme police from the nearest areas. And these are generally crazy .. Hatred of Muscovites, you know.
      The rest of the country again perceives these events as internal showdowns of snickering Muscovites and will not do anything at all.

      so almost all the riots and roars will begin from the outskirts and lower classes of society
      1. domokl
        domokl 14 October 2013 10: 46 New
        +4
        Quote: Danilka
        so almost all the riots and roars will begin from the outskirts and lower classes of society

        And how did the outskirts react? Read the comments. Outskirts of Moscow on a drum showdown. And revolutions always began in the capitals ... and ended .. Russia is stable because it combines two different worlds ... Capital cities and the country itself.
    5. alone
      alone 14 October 2013 21: 43 New
      0
      Quote: Alikovo
      Yesterday I saw this news on TV, in my head immediately flashed: for the murder of a local, cut 10 visitors.


      what But what do you propose to do when the local themselves were killed by the locals themselves? Maybe you’ll also put 10 in for this?
  • kafa
    kafa 14 October 2013 08: 16 New
    28
    The head of the Federation of Migrants of Russia, Muhammad Amin, is what kind of animal belay
    1. yan
      yan 14 October 2013 08: 19 New
      +2
      and this is the principle at the right time in the right place, if you can cut the dough on tolerasts why not
    2. Sewer
      Sewer 14 October 2013 08: 25 New
      +5
      The beast is like a beast!
    3. Doctor Evil
      Doctor Evil 14 October 2013 09: 20 New
      +2
      kafa, go to http://www.fmr.su/. See for yourself.
  • Gennady1973
    Gennady1973 14 October 2013 08: 17 New
    20
    Once again, the authorities showed their helplessness. Again, a riot, but not in the "province" but in the capital. How many more should be killed to bring order to migrants of all races and guest workers?
    1. queen
      queen 14 October 2013 08: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: Gennady1973
      How many more should be killed to bring order to migrants of all races and guest workers?

      Not much ... only the blood of those to whom they present tribute.
  • yan
    yan 14 October 2013 08: 18 New
    +7
    Abscesses break through the lack of an adequate policy in relation to migrants, and even multiplied by tolerance .... A system of qualifications (financial, settled, age), but whatever, but there must be restrictions for this flow
  • Gav-111
    Gav-111 14 October 2013 08: 18 New
    15
    And this is just the beginning.
    1. krasin
      krasin 14 October 2013 08: 24 New
      +7
      We don’t need such beginnings. Another revolution and we will have nothing left from RUSSIA!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 14 October 2013 08: 42 New
        13
        Quote: krasin
        We don’t need such beginnings. Another revolution and we will have nothing left from RUSSIA!

        Then, what kind of banana does our power begin to move with its assholes, only after the next murder. Do you really need blood for change? All this was predicted earlier and two goals back on the site wrote that it would be so! The people want one thing, and the authorities act differently, what will be the result?
        1. krasin
          krasin 14 October 2013 09: 19 New
          +1
          Answer: Putin's rating
          international politics positive
          domestic policy is negative

          Either the liberals are holding Putin’s hands, or they’re doing so (they work as a security guard for them)
          And immediately remember Joseph Illarionovich, with nostalgia!
          1. ale-x
            ale-x 14 October 2013 10: 19 New
            +1
            Who is Joseph Illarionovich?
          2. krasin
            krasin 14 October 2013 10: 32 New
            +3
            I apologize!
            Vissarionovich
            Very old, bad became negative
          3. mamba
            mamba 14 October 2013 10: 59 New
            0
            Quote: krasin
            And immediately remember Joseph Illarionovich, with nostalgia!

            Maybe after all, Vissarionycha? Do not be like the famous character from the movie "The Adventures of a Soldier Ivan Chonkin", the NKVD captain Athanasius Petrovich Milyaga, who interrogated "the father of Comrade Stalin":
            And then a saving memory flashed in the captain's brain. If this is Stalin’s father, then it means that Stalin himself should be called Joseph Moiseevich. But his name is ... his name is ... Milyaga could not remember the patronymic of his beloved leader.
          4. military
            military 14 October 2013 11: 06 New
            +2
            Quote: krasin
            Putin's rating
            international politics positive
            domestic policy is negative

            well, and what is the bottom line? ... a phenomenon or m *** ringing? ...
          5. RBLip
            RBLip 14 October 2013 11: 52 New
            0
            Quote: krasin
            And immediately remember Joseph Illarionovich, with nostalgia!

            maybe Joseph Vissarionovich all the same?
        2. military
          military 14 October 2013 10: 57 New
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The people want one thing, and the authorities act differently, what will be the result?

          the result will be ... the question is different ... why Does “people's” power run counter to the wishes of the people? ... or is it not at all popular, but anti-popular? ...
        3. 31231
          31231 14 October 2013 13: 10 New
          +1
          Alexander, when a visiting Russian in Kazakhstan commits murder, he is simply condemned and no pogroms. Why do we have a show with a "rebellion of the people" ?! And as always in the light of "Contact" with their herds of "hamsters" and their puppeteers pokokatori.
          Many even here without looking at the video of the exploits of hamsters consider them fighters with the authorities. Today they burn cars and shopping centers tomorrow, how will the rebels in Syria take up arms ?!
          Who benefits from chaos and srach in the Russian state ?!

          Who wants to say that these are adequate people and they are fighting the government legally?

          [media = http: // http: //youtu.be/y19mREBbNN4]
      2. Lapotnik
        Lapotnik 14 October 2013 10: 31 New
        +3
        And so much is left not stolen, destroyed? Everywhere dominated by hucksters, thieves, bandits. Everything that is being built is being built on foreign loot, we don’t even own the gold reserves ... The authorities are doing everything to quietly transform Russia into a cattle-country with cattle-population. It is clear that it won’t be possible to legitimize s right away, so it’s not a problem - at first they’ll ruin medicine, education, the army, the birth rate ... and then you can choose what you like and where you want to enter it.
        1. 31231
          31231 14 October 2013 11: 45 New
          -1
          All that is being built is built on foreign loot


          And where is this nonsense ?! Or have prosralipolymers been added to the National Health ?!
      3. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 14 October 2013 11: 20 New
        -3
        Quote: krasin
        We don’t need such beginnings. Another revolution and we will have nothing left from RUSSIA!

        For me, this seems to me to be achieved by not washing so much, and these from the Caucasus are poisoned like dogs, taking advantage of their inadequacy in their assessments, in short, they must be crushed like swamps !!!
        1. New Russia
          New Russia 14 October 2013 12: 56 New
          +2
          "these from the Caucasus are poisoned like dogs" The poor throughout the country hunted
          "they must be shorter as if they were marsh !!!" Who to push? This is a common people and not liberals. I suggest crushing people like you)))
          1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
            GELEZNII_KAPUT 14 October 2013 15: 56 New
            0
            Quote: New Russia
            "these from the Caucasus are poisoned like dogs"

            Poison in Russian, I’m talking about that! And you turned everything upside down!
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 14 October 2013 08: 20 New
    30
    Did not like the article. "... locals and young people who looked like football fans began to gather. They had no political symbols, flags or posters with them." If they don’t have anything, then they do not look like forfeits, but for citizens brought to the limit, everyone knows what.

    Here is a Russian
    with a shot head.
    For his part, the conflict
    was national
    With the opposite
    parties - household.
    Emelin wrote this poem about 7 years ago. The government, with migrants and people, is playing spools, so they played it out to Biryulev.
  • Voskepar
    Voskepar 14 October 2013 08: 20 New
    11
    Such a rebellion is necessary for many to sober up and behave normally, otherwise soon there will be nowhere to hide from migrants in Moscow.
    1. Danilka
      Danilka 14 October 2013 09: 16 New
      0
      you're right ... but what should be the scale of the Schaub riot there raised their fifth points and do the job am .Although I think that 1 million will not be enough. If I'm wrong, correct
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 14 October 2013 09: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: Danilka
        .Although I think that 1 million will not be enough. If I'm wrong, correct

        Enough and a million, but immediately in 5-6 cities. Then run into
  • Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 14 October 2013 08: 21 New
    11
    I don’t understand - why is the issue with migrants stalled?
    the authorities lack courage: 1. to jam visitors, to bring them to order?
    2. firmly cheer up our "businessmen", who are exhausted from greed, paying such pennies that the Russians will not work, and the migrants with pleasure?
    all this will end badly for both the authorities and the people ...
    1. Sewer
      Sewer 14 October 2013 08: 26 New
      20
      So power is businessmen! Do you think that they will punish themselves or something?
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    2. SIT
      SIT 14 October 2013 11: 46 New
      +4
      Quote: Silkway0026
      I don’t understand - why is the issue with migrants stalled?
      the authorities lack courage: 1. to jam visitors, to bring them to order?
      2. firmly cheer up our "businessmen", who are exhausted from greed, paying such pennies that the Russians will not work, and the migrants with pleasure?
      all this will end badly for both the authorities and the people ...

      The turnover of the same vegetable base is up to 10 million per season. dollars a day. Of these, from 50% to 70% is black cash. For that kind of money in Moscow you can buy any power, at least the municipality, at least the police. Any quirks for your money ...
    3. New Russia
      New Russia 14 October 2013 12: 06 New
      +3
      "I don’t understand a damn - why does the question with migrants stall?
      the government lacks the courage to: 1. jam the newcomers, bring them to order? "

      Putin: We will not introduce a visa regime, we should not push away the "allies"
      We will give them passports at our expense (straight line)
  • Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 14 October 2013 08: 22 New
    11
    Riot police cannot solve these problems ..... they can only be drowned out for a while ..... but the boil only from this will become larger and someday it will explode even more. Biryulyovo once again showed how the inhabitants of Russian cities got the emigration policy of local authorities
  • zevs379
    zevs379 14 October 2013 08: 23 New
    22
    Horsho OMON worked - well done !!!!!!!! Protected the poor migrants.
    And when will you protect us Russians?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 14 October 2013 08: 43 New
      18
      Quote: zevs379
      And when will you protect us Russians?

      Never! We riot police protects national minorities.
  • pinecone
    pinecone 14 October 2013 08: 23 New
    13
    It is immediately clear that the article is from the anti-Russian print organ of the comprador elite.
    1. Sewer
      Sewer 14 October 2013 08: 27 New
      +4
      YES, the article rolls negative!
      1. bodriy
        bodriy 14 October 2013 09: 11 New
        +3
        and on this issue are you seeing some kind of positive ?! Visa regime ... this is not much that our government can do, it will be positive!
        1. Sewer
          Sewer 14 October 2013 09: 17 New
          +6
          Drive out all the migrants! And give their jobs to the Russians! That's all you need!
        2. Z.A.M.
          Z.A.M. 14 October 2013 10: 10 New
          +9
          Quote: bodriy
          visa regime...it's that little what can our power do

          laughing This "little" Putin recently banned laughing
          So, we continue to listen to his talk about "scrapings" (a filthy word, coined by him). We listen, see and ... draw conclusions ... WHO DID NOT DO ANYTHING!
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    2. olegff68
      olegff68 14 October 2013 08: 59 New
      -4
      Quote: pinecone
      It is immediately clear that the article is from the anti-Russian print organ of the comprador elite.

      Here hamsters react aggressively to her dreaming to wash their paws in the blood!
      Yes, this Moscow hesitated with its bunch of neglected problems, which is spreading all over Russia. And someone cleverly manipulates this by clicking on pain points.
      1. zevs379
        zevs379 14 October 2013 09: 25 New
        +2
        So it is necessary that the government itself stopped these "pain points" and did not bring to sin am
      2. afire
        afire 14 October 2013 09: 45 New
        +7
        Quote: olegff68
        Yes, this Moscow hesitated with its bunch of neglected problems, which is spreading all over Russia.

        Let +1 be a warning. Dear!
        For especially SMART from Tambov, Tambov news!
        http://w68.su/churki-sovsem-oborzeli-t71.html
        http://vireg.ru/churki-tantsuyut-i-strelyayut-u-kaiena-v-tambove
        http://www.msktambov.ru/news/gastarbajtery-nakormyat-tambovchan-uzbekskim-plovom

        /
        http://tambov.kp.ru/daily/26129/3021079/
        http://tambov.mk.ru/article/2013/08/07/896580-na-smenu-korennomu-naseleniyu-tamb

        ovschinyi-prihodyat-migrantyi.html

        WHAT?? DO YOU STILL DRAW ??? BRAINS INCLUDE ALREADY!
        THIS Crap ALL OVER THE COUNTRY!
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          1. sergey82
            sergey82 14 October 2013 14: 32 New
            +1
            Only Moscow was once not controlled by a Muscovite, but only collective farmers, and Muscovites always worked as janitors and in production
  • Sewer
    Sewer 14 October 2013 08: 23 New
    21
    "The outskirts of Moscow illegally opposed migrants. "Just think about this phrase! They survived, the Russians in their country have already been declared illegal immigrants! I also want to note that as soon as the people rose to a fair demand for punishment and putting things in order, all sorts of moral ones arrived quickly, who began to crumble everything around and the liquid bloggers on the Jewish sites began to write about the fact that the riot police took away the freedom fighters! It’s a pity, of course, that the riot police and other law enforcement agencies did not join the sane part of the people, which at the beginning behaved very adequately, and did not start a joint Birilev’s cleansing of evil spirits! But there are pluses in everything, and in yesterday’s event! The authorities had to work again! But doesn’t she understand that there are more such riots, and that one day, they will develop into a huge fire? Or do they achieve this ? I sometimes tend to think that this is so!
  • ReifA
    ReifA 14 October 2013 08: 25 New
    14
    When the "democratic" power is inactive, people themselves begin to solve problems.
  • kafa
    kafa 14 October 2013 08: 29 New
    +6
    Quote: Sewer
    The beast is like a beast!

    why not at home on a native palm tree or in a zoo cage am
    1. Sewer
      Sewer 14 October 2013 08: 41 New
      +8
      Probably because managers like animals more than theirs!
  • Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 14 October 2013 08: 34 New
    17
    Wow ... yourself. And I didn’t know that in my country, the Russian Federation, there is another Federation, of certain Russian migrants. Yes, even with his president. They survived, aphids ...
  • Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 14 October 2013 08: 39 New
    21
    Good It’s a pity for the guy, a fond memory to him, he died like a real man - he defended the honor of his lady, and this is a ram in the back of a knife ... I have few words, and thanks to people! their decisions! The issue with migrants had to be solved yesterday!
  • Troy
    Troy 14 October 2013 08: 44 New
    24
    And this is only the beginning. We also have skirmishes in Siberia such that the cops close the entrances to the city. Riot police reluctantly acted, but they themselves were already sick of it with these animals. There are many normal people among the siloviki, and they also think.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 14 October 2013 08: 53 New
      15
      Quote: Troy
      . There are many normal people among the siloviki, and they also think.

      Well, then the time is near. If Putin does not understand this now, then the Caucasians will begin to be cut out and very soon all over the country.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 14 October 2013 10: 09 New
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        then Caucasians will begin to be cut out and very soon all over the country.

        And then the issue of conquering the Caucasus for Russia will be resolved once and for all.
      2. Rustam
        Rustam 14 October 2013 11: 29 New
        0
        Alexander Romanov Well, then the time is already close. If Putin doesn’t understand it now, then Caucasians will begin to cut


        What are you talking about? Does your position interest me? Do you consider the Caucasus a part of Russia or not? or you for his separation and fencingThis question is important to me - I want to understand your position or these phrases is a slogan or program of action?



        Then what? And what will begin there in the North Caucasus republics? And why the hell we fought there for what
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 14 October 2013 13: 57 New
          +2
          Quote: Rustam
          And why the heck we fought there for what

          So I want to understand what they fought for?
          Quote: Rustam
          Do you think the Caucasus is part of Russia or not

          I consider it to be a part of Russia.
          Quote: Rustam
          or you for his separation and fencing

          But you don’t need to separate anything, it’s just here on the territory of Russia that the representatives of the Caucasus are properly set up, and in the Caucasus they will hear it.
          Quote: Rustam
          and what will begin there in the North Caucasus republics?

          If the Russians run out of patience, then there will be trepidation in the republics.
          1. Rustam
            Rustam 14 October 2013 15: 36 New
            +2
            Alexander Romanov

            I consider it to be a part of Russia.


            Which one is more specific?

            set the brains well for the representatives of the Caucasus


            These are all common phrases and nothing! more specifically how we will set, catch and cuthow did you say or what?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 14 October 2013 16: 03 New
              -1
              Quote: Rustam
              These are all common phrases and nothing! more specifically how we will correct,

              Many do not need to be straightened, just hang the heads of the enclaves with their eggs and they will cut out those who behave like this. This is for starters, and then the results will be seen.
        2. afire
          afire 14 October 2013 14: 03 New
          +4
          They fought for the preservation of peace throughout the country, the world turned out to be relative there, but the war spread throughout the country, since these "peace-loving" chunks warmed by the West are fighting with us everywhere. There is no sense to endure them anymore, either they, or we, BUT! since we are at home, and they are not, THEY should get out of here until they learn good behavior and respect for the lactating hand.
          These animals, and among them a huge number of good and sincerely kind and respected white crows, understand only strength, they perceive everything else as weakness. That is, if you do not beat him, then he hits you and all your surroundings. Another is not given unfortunately.
  • asadov
    asadov 14 October 2013 08: 44 New
    12
    why wonder at the arrogance of migrants? Not so long ago, someone for a base in Asia himself promised even greater concessions to migrants. So they are already almost feeling themselves masters here.
  • patriot2
    patriot2 14 October 2013 08: 47 New
    13
    Whoever sows the wind will reap the storm. Violence gives rise to rebellion. Those who shed a little blood will choke with big blood!
    These are the fruits of ill-conceived migration policies. It is possible to appeal to the reason of the indigenous population only when migrants stop in such numbers (legal and illegal) to climb into Russia and live in it according to their own, and not Russian laws. A simple person sees this every day, every hour. Only officials who do not want to solve migration issues in the interests of the peoples of the host country do not see it. We didn’t call them here! You were called - gentlemen in power!
  • marder4
    marder4 14 October 2013 08: 47 New
    +8
    yeah - everything goes to the point that soon and riot police will not help
    1. DuraLexSedLex.
      DuraLexSedLex. 14 October 2013 10: 18 New
      +7
      It will help. The way OMON behaved in the Biryuli, it’s soft, very soft, so to speak, it didn’t behave in any way, but it could. Trust 500 "astronauts" with shields and rubber batons (usually not ordinary but not much longer) a crowd of thousands will be dispersed to a well-known plant, everything and special means and water cannons will be used, the fact that they didn’t do this does not mean that they cannot do that.
      1. military
        military 14 October 2013 11: 23 New
        +3
        these? ... these can! ... although they shouldn’t be "deified" either ... they can, until in the hands of the crowd clubs and trimmings of reinforcement appear ...
        1. DuraLexSedLex.
          DuraLexSedLex. 14 October 2013 13: 50 New
          -1
          Well, here we are not preparing an act of "civil disobedience" after all ... but yes, the armature ... the weapons of the proletariat are brick, gasoline with motor oil in a compartment with silver powder, poured into a bottle. That's all right, as long as the special forces of the BB with AK in his hands, he won’t enter the city. THEN then everything will be quiet. I’m so bad that the authorities can react harshly ... only she knows how to relate to the Russians and the indigenous people, and they are afraid of Chechens / Dagis / Ingushs, exactly as well as immigrants from Central Asia. Therefore, if that PPC will be for us, ordinary Russian citizens.
          1. mizantropi
            mizantropi 14 October 2013 21: 06 New
            +1
            "COMRADE", apparently, decided to fight NOT ON THE SIDE! Ordinary Russian citizens do not like such fortels ... Everyone understands who the real ENEMY is (obviously not OMON)!
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  • rugor
    rugor 14 October 2013 08: 48 New
    14
    Hush did not work. It’s clear that the police are covering this whole monkey.
  • rugor
    rugor 14 October 2013 08: 48 New
    +2
    Hush did not work. It’s clear that the police are covering this whole monkey.
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 14 October 2013 08: 48 New
    17
    Quote: Troy
    We also have skirmishes in Siberia

    Last night I was at the market (fruits, vegetables,) I still thought - that there are not enough men among the traders, women and places are empty. In the evening I went online - both on, in Biryulyovo just begun. and they are already in the crevices, it already reaches them how it will end! When it comes to the government!
    1. military
      military 14 October 2013 11: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: Bort Radist
      When it comes to the government!

      everything comes to a giraffe later ...
  • Lech from our city
    Lech from our city 14 October 2013 08: 50 New
    14
    Well, the results of the Kremlin's tolerant policy regarding scumbags from the southern latitudes have again manifested themselves.
    The bandit is still free, and hundreds of people dissatisfied with this are sitting in the bullpen.

    NOT GOOD - it should be the other way around.
    Fat deuce Dame and Putin for such work.
    1. military
      military 14 October 2013 11: 28 New
      +7
      Quote: Lech from our city
      Fat deuce Dame and Putin for such work.

      count ... or two ...
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  • morpogr
    morpogr 14 October 2013 08: 51 New
    +9
    People themselves begin to solve the problems of migration and will do it as they can, and if the authorities do not decide on harsh measures such as visa regime, deportation, deprivation of citizenship that is illegally obtained by imprisoning those who cover and cover these people. The people will begin to clean up themselves and after markets and bases, next in line are councils and ovds.
  • both s69
    both s69 14 October 2013 08: 58 New
    10
    Arrived, called! If it really breaks out in Russia, it will not seem a little, I think, to nobody in the whole world! God forbid the "Russian revolt - senseless and merciless" begins. The authorities should immediately begin to pursue a coherent domestic policy towards “people of Caucasian ethnicity” and migrants, otherwise the Russian peasant would “get down from the stove and pick up the forks” and then ... OMON “nervously smokes on the sidelines”. Similar precedents in our history have already been. All this is sad. sad
  • ed65b
    ed65b 14 October 2013 08: 58 New
    14
    I wonder how many birulevs are needed so that the GDP finally understands it's time to put a barrier on the border. That fairy tales about the indestructible brotherhood of nations are left in the past, and illiterate people who don’t know any language or culture are coming to us, for the most part, thanks to the local “animal kings”, they are also discarded 100 years ago in civilization terms. And to compare Tajiks 20-30 years ago with the modern "rabble" is impossible. I'm afraid this is only the beginning, but they said they warned me.
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 14 October 2013 12: 22 New
      +6
      "I wonder how many birulevs are needed so that the GDP finally understands it's time to put a barrier on the border." Not at all. It seems to me that you yourself understand that Putler will never begin to engage in either migration or corruption .... Moreover, he created the problem of migrants himself
    2. 31231
      31231 14 October 2013 17: 13 New
      -1
      Quote: ed65b
      I wonder how many birulevs are needed so that the GDP finally understands it's time to put a barrier on the border.


      So they stand on the border of Italy and America. Or have you never heard of their immigrants? And where do zapadentsi migrate in search of work?
  • Jahn
    Jahn 14 October 2013 09: 01 New
    16
    what are you talking about nationalists? that means when they molest a girl and the guy defends him, it dies okay, the girl goes with the child you can molest her, this is all tolerance, and when people have risen, they are Nazis, but we’ll go so far, now we’ll be vegetable check when this circus will end. and we will come to everyone from the Asian and Transcaucasian republics I advise one suitcase, train station. train, village,
    1. Zhenya
      Zhenya 14 October 2013 09: 08 New
      27
      If a Russian kills-this is nationalism, if a Russian in his own city is hooliganism! Conclusion? The Russian rebellion is terrible, but everything goes to this.
      1. Orik
        Orik 14 October 2013 09: 58 New
        +4
        This is the official position of the authorities.
      2. both s69
        both s69 14 October 2013 13: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: Marrying
        If a Russian kills-this is nationalism, if a Russian in his own city is hooliganism! Conclusion? The Russian rebellion is terrible, but everything goes to this.

        And the authorities continue to “chew snot”, as always however ...
        Maybe the GDP Olympiad just wants to hold "without unnecessary problems," and the "Caucasus" takes advantage of the moment, so to speak? Who knows? I would like to hope that the government at least a little began to "screw nuts" in relation to the diaspora known to all ... winked
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 14 October 2013 09: 34 New
      +8
      For the most part, “rebellious” young people who grew up on nationalist ideas, seeing the lawlessness that migrants do with the connivance of the authorities and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
      If the authorities do not solve the problem of migration, the people will solve it, since we can do it.
  • buywol
    buywol 14 October 2013 09: 11 New
    +9
    You can stop all this, but the authorities now want to lower everything on the brakes. She does not need a fire before and during the Olympics. And after the Olympics, everything will begin, a showdown with the blacks. And now, as they say, "it’s troublesome."
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 14 October 2013 11: 55 New
      0
      Quote: buywol
      You can stop all this, but the authorities now want to lower everything on the brakes. She does not need a fire before and during the Olympics. And after the Olympics, everything will begin, a showdown with the blacks. And now, as they say, "it’s troublesome."

      I read an article here, saying that after the Olympics, it will be the 37th year, and this supposedly not only concerns the black people.
  • Sarus
    Sarus 14 October 2013 09: 12 New
    13
    I see one way out ... the death penalty ...
    The people are rebelling in my opinion for two reasons.
    1. Killers can evade responsibility on "their land." I don’t think that Moscow investigators or opera will go to villages, for example, to Dagestan or to Tajikistan in general to look for those responsible. By no means do I want to say that the opera is lazy or that the thread is like that .. I just can’t imagine how they will beat the culprit away from relatives (an example is Moscow in the summer). and why try? 5 7 years old and he is free. Given that the punishment of a citizen of another country can be done on its territory. That is, to the first station on their territory. and so I think an eye for an eye. You arrived and killed. You are, of course, if you get caught, then take the punishment comparable to a crime.
    2. And the population was simply tired of everything ... I, too, feel unpleasant to watch how they are standing in hospitals. Like buses are full of them .. I am a Siberian in the 3rd generation .. My grandfather from the Urals came to the North Siberia oil industry in 50 years .. Of course, when here sn and good conditions go here everyone ... And where were you before when you were alone taiga.
  • Sarus
    Sarus 14 October 2013 09: 12 New
    +1
    I see one way out ... the death penalty ...
    The people are rebelling in my opinion for two reasons.
    1. Killers can evade responsibility on "their land." I don’t think that Moscow investigators or opera will go to villages, for example, to Dagestan or to Tajikistan in general to look for those responsible. By no means do I want to say that the opera is lazy or that the thread is like that .. I just can’t imagine how they will beat the culprit away from relatives (an example is Moscow in the summer). and why try? 5 7 years old and he is free. Given that the punishment of a citizen of another country can be done on its territory. That is, to the first station on their territory. and so I think an eye for an eye. You arrived and killed. You are, of course, if you get caught, then take the punishment comparable to a crime.
    2. And the population was simply tired of everything ... I, too, feel unpleasant to watch how they are standing in hospitals. Like buses are full of them .. I am a Siberian in the 3rd generation .. My grandfather from the Urals came to the North Siberia oil industry in 50 years .. Of course, when here sn and good conditions go here everyone ... And where were you before when you were alone taiga.
  • Kerch
    Kerch 14 October 2013 09: 12 New
    +3
    On the one hand, it’s good that people began to unite, on the other hand, such “power” actions are a “wake-up call” for the authorities.
  • Revolver
    Revolver 14 October 2013 09: 13 New
    +9
    In America, when self-appointed human rights defenders advocate illegal immigrants, normally normal people ask them the following question: “What part of the expression 'illegal immigrant' you don’t understand?”
  • vlad0
    vlad0 14 October 2013 09: 15 New
    12
    The old principle: if something happens, then someone needs it! Imagine that all the animals were thrown back to the villages, and the problem of migrants disappeared in Russia. This is after all the people and the officials will take over, and there for the government. Do they need it? So, most likely, the root cause of what is happening sits on the sidelines of the Kremlin. After all, such situations very much distract people from other, more important and problematic issues of politics, economics and the social sphere.
  • Syrzhn
    Syrzhn 14 October 2013 09: 15 New
    +3
    In power there is a part (large) of people "tied" to the west. There is their money and children, and therefore their owners. The West needs chaos in Russia. Therefore, Westerners in power carry out the order for the collapse of our country into separate, preferably warring, units. The brand "Separate the Caucasus" is one of the key in this process, it is under it that programs are implemented to import "rhinos" from Asia and the Caucasus, it is under it that they "roof", put pressure on judges and the police to let them go unpunished. So they poison people (not only Russian) and immediately throw in slogans about the collapse of the country - "separate something", etc.
  • scientist
    scientist 14 October 2013 09: 16 New
    -12
    In Moscow, several people die every day at the hands of criminals and crime has no nationality. Why did the Shcherbakov murder become so resonant? Russia has always been a tolerant and multinational state precisely because of this, such a vast territory still retains its state integrity. But obviously, some pro-Western forces, rooted in Moscow, are not happy with this, and they are trying to foment ethnic conflicts.
    1. Zhenya
      Zhenya 14 October 2013 09: 28 New
      17
      1. 70% of crimes in Moscow come from the Caucasus or visitors from Central Asia.
      2. It was tolerant only under the USSR, the Decembrists' slogans were to expel all non-Russians and ban Islam in Russia. Do you recall when it was?
      3. When you hear too much Russian on the streets, you understand what tolerance has led to. Yes, you do not need to go far, look at Europe.
      4. Russia has such borders because of conquests, and not because of tolerance!
      5. The President of Tatarstan has repeatedly mentioned the withdrawal, like Dagestan, and Chechnya, and Ingushetia, continue?
      6. The country's foreign policy is strong, but the domestic one is weak, which is not acceptable for our state.
      1. scientist
        scientist 14 October 2013 16: 01 New
        0
        Quote: Marrying
        1. 70% of crimes in Moscow come from the Caucasus or visitors from Central Asia.

        You need to start the pogroms with the Migration Police, which protects these migrants, otherwise you will only achieve the growth of bribes and the cost of fruits and vegetables.
        Quote: Marrying
        2. It was tolerant only under the USSR, the Decembrists' slogans were to expel all non-Russians and ban Islam in Russia. Do you recall when it was?

        The Decembrists eventually led to a revolution, and the revolution to a civil war and millions of victims, not counting repression. In the USSR, there was never any tolerance, there was the concept of a national minority for which special quotas were allocated for studying at universities out of competition, for positions of superiors, for prizes and awards!
        Quote: Marrying
        3. .. look at Europe

        Most of all in Europe, migrants from Russia are afraid that everyone is so eager to go there, since it is so bad there?
        Quote: Marrying
        4. Russia has such borders because of conquests, and not because of tolerance!

        Evil begets evil. This is the law of the universe, its foundation. Not a single enslaved people, when not reconciled to this situation, people cannot be enslaved, it can only be destroyed, which Stalin actually did.
        Quote: Marrying
        5. The President of Tatarstan has repeatedly mentioned the withdrawal, as well as ....

        These are the natural consequences of the concentration in Moscow of the financial elite, which milks the whole country, leaving crumbs in the regions. With such a policy, both Siberia and the Far East can leave Russia. They are stupidly tired of living in cold and hunger, with broken roads and mortality as in the 18th century.
        Quote: Marrying
        6. The country's foreign policy is strong, but the domestic one is weak ....

        Both politicians are weak. There is a single success in Syria and it remains to be seen how much Russia will cost. Look at how much the Russian budget costs on friendship with Chechnya and Dagestan. This is because they do not buy friends, as they are now trying to do with Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Belarus. Friendship is either there or not. But the reason is simple - most politicians are proteges of the oligarchs, for whom the budget is a tidbit.
      2. 31231
        31231 14 October 2013 17: 17 New
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        1. 70% of crimes in Moscow come from the Caucasus or visitors from Central Asia.


        Can I have a good link? And then I somehow read that more than half of these crimes are associated with violation of migration laws. Simply put, illegal stay on the territory of the Russian Federation.

        5. The President of Tatarstan has repeatedly mentioned the withdrawal, like Dagestan, and Chechnya, and Ingushetia, continue?


        You can also link to this. And then I only heard this in the 90s. And our fool Rossel wanted to create the Ural Republic. Become a prince.
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 14 October 2013 09: 28 New
      +8
      The murder of Shcherbakov is a spark from which a long-planned fire has flared up, and this fire will lead to a fire.
    3. FunkschNNX
      FunkschNNX 14 October 2013 09: 54 New
      +7
      Quote: scientist
      crime has no nationality
      Oh well sad Probably because of this, thieves, legalists, reketirs, tweezers, etc. the criminal element is almost a third made up of Slavs, despite the fact that the total number of Slavs in the society is almost 90%.
    4. Revolver
      Revolver 14 October 2013 10: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: scientist
      Russia has always been tolerant ...
      You do not accidentally confuse tolerance with tolerance?
    5. georg737577
      georg737577 14 October 2013 11: 11 New
      +4
      Crime has a nationality! Stop hiding your head in the sand. It is necessary to act radically - this is a war, do not you understand? And the government should immediately take hostages from the Caucasian diasporas, the most respected representatives of the diaspora and their families. And to shoot 100 for killing a Russian: 1. Then they will like to live in peace in their native village ...
    6. AK-47
      AK-47 14 October 2013 11: 39 New
      +6
      Quote: scientist
      Russia has always been tolerant and ...
  • svp67
    svp67 14 October 2013 09: 17 New
    +9
    Now at the “top” a discussion has begun on the creation of a MUNICIPAL POLICE, the whole MEDVEDIEVA REFORM of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is a “brightest cut”,

    harmful to the STATE. The Ministry of Internal Affairs simply does not have enough forces and means to quickly respond to similar events ... So that citizens are prepared to PAY for the creation of the MUNICIPAL POLICE, it will be created and CONTAINED at the expense of the MUNICIPALITY BUDGET, so there will be many fines and tax lawsuits, very many .. .
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 14 October 2013 10: 16 New
      0
      "Democratizer" in a bag from Louis Vuitton - MDA, "lives well in the world of Winnie the Pooh," that is, sorry, the modest workers of the "democratizer" and the penalty receipt. Or Chinese-made Wheaton?
  • Jahn
    Jahn 14 October 2013 09: 23 New
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    The answer is, to expel all of the migration police, and to gain nationalist ideological one week of blacks will not be in Russia
  • bomg.77
    bomg.77 14 October 2013 09: 24 New
    +7
    When Sobyanin tried to call at this fruit base three years ago, they didn’t immediately let him in)) There is one more Cherkizon, they only sell vegetables and fruits. Such pogroms will be more frequent every day, the authorities will not be able to stop this if it does not change their attitude to to migrants.
  • RUSS
    RUSS 14 October 2013 09: 25 New
    +2
    Quote: Sewer
    So power is businessmen! Do you think that they will punish themselves or something?

    "Hand warms hand!"
  • Aubert
    Aubert 14 October 2013 09: 29 New
    +4
    “We got it already, let them go to the aul”

    I subscribe to every word angry
  • Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 14 October 2013 09: 31 New
    +2
    The ringleaders were nationalists,

    That is why I do not mind their presence in political life in a minimal form, so that, as they say, crucian carp does not doze off. Although, if the government does not deal with this issue, it is not known what will happen (national politics and not nationalists).
  • rereture
    rereture 14 October 2013 09: 32 New
    +4
    DON'T FORGET IT WAS NOT A MIGRANT, AND A NUMBER FROM THE CAUCASUS, Rather, ALL DAGESTAN OR A FREEDOM.
    So make your own conclusions.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 14 October 2013 09: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: rereture
      DON'T FORGET IT WAS NOT A MIGRANT, AND A NUMBER FROM THE CAUCASUS, Rather, ALL DAGESTAN OR A FREEDOM.

      But do migrants behave better? How many crimes are they committing?
      1. rereture
        rereture 14 October 2013 10: 02 New
        +1
        I’m not saying which is better, just many replace liquid with warm.
    2. DuraLexSedLex.
      DuraLexSedLex. 14 October 2013 10: 31 New
      -2
      I’ll tell you a secret .. current TSSS, og?;) The Caucasus is big, there is still Georgia, Abkhazia, Ossetia (southern), Azerbaijan. Talk to no one 6.
      1. rereture
        rereture 14 October 2013 15: 25 New
        0
        You perfectly understood that I had in mind the republics that are part of the Russian Federation.
    3. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 14 October 2013 14: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: rereture
      DON'T FORGET IT WAS NOT A MIGRANT, AND A NUMBER FROM THE CAUCASUS, Rather, ALL DAGESTAN OR A FREEDOM.
      So make your own conclusions.
  • Sour
    Sour 14 October 2013 09: 33 New
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    Quote: scientist
    In Moscow, several people die every day at the hands of criminals and crime has no nationality. Why did the Shcherbakov murder become so resonant? Russia has always been a tolerant and multinational state precisely because of this, such a vast territory still retains its state integrity. But obviously, some pro-Western forces, rooted in Moscow, are not happy with this, and they are trying to foment ethnic conflicts.

    Honestly - this phrase is sickened: "crime has no nationality."
    Here nationalism in Russia always has a nationality. For some reason he is always Russian, and no more. The same is fascism. All that is heard is “Russian fascism,” but not a word about Caucasian or Jewish fascism.
    But crime or terrorism for some reason never have a nationality. Terrorism also has no religion, this is also a standard phrase.
    The media will probably say: "there was a murder on domestic soil, in response there were riots on national on the ground. ”They will say so. How to kill Russians is commonplace,“ crime has no nationality. ”And as if in response to something,“ Russian fascism ”immediately.
    1. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 14 October 2013 10: 28 New
      +8
      Quote: Sour
      Honestly, this phrase is embarrassed: “crime has no nationality.” Here, nationalism in Russia always has nationality. For some reason he is always Russian, and no more.

      good Bravo for the whole comment !!! good hi
    2. both s69
      both s69 14 October 2013 16: 29 New
      0
      How to kill Russians is a commonplace, "crime has no nationality." And as if in response to something, so immediately "Russian fascism." How to kill Russians is a commonplace, "crime has no nationality." And as if in response to something, so immediately "Russian fascism."
      I agree to all 100 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ !!!
  • DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 14 October 2013 09: 34 New
    15
    Dear morning forum users hi
    In Moscow, a national conflict has long matured, I do not need to say that all this is garbage. problemuneducated visitors, and arrogant, greedy for blood, leading a beastly way of life a lot. And every day there are not less, but more. The numbers say that more than half of all crimes committed in the capital and the metropolitan region are committed by visitors from other countries, republics and guests from ours, YES OUR (that is, our dzhigits living in our country), all the most beloved and most calm and tolerant in the world, the North Caucasus. All this happens, with the tacit consent of the authorities and the protection of the guilty: someone relatives came and bought, someone just agreed on the spot, but they didn’t look for anyone at all, there was little evidence, laziness ... This all naturally bothered the people and the next murder simply became a spark ... it boiled. And if the killer was not detained, the shortest time, the continuation of the banquet is secured.
    The question is what to do ... nothing, there's nothing to be done, the situation is at such a deep 5th point that only radical measures will help, but our gut is thin on it.
    Therefore, you can cut Russian-Allah allowed.
    By the way, about the birds, you can expect retaliatory pogroms from migrants and guests.
    1. DuraLexSedLex.
      DuraLexSedLex. 14 October 2013 09: 42 New
      +7
      There is a solution, but this is not entirely legal (we cannot gather more than 3 without permission): the creation of volunteer squads, as necessary with weapons or non-lethal countermeasures (stun guns, batons, gas) and expanded powers to verify documents, and detention of suspicious persons. This practice is in the USA (not the best example, but ..) it works.
      If the authorities continue to chew snot, then it will be quite likely the appearance of a kind of red brigades that will not stand on ceremony with anyone ...
      1. DuraLexSedLex.
        DuraLexSedLex. 14 October 2013 11: 32 New
        0
        "If the police are not in good shape, then the state is in the anus" (C)
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 14 October 2013 09: 36 New
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    The caustic tone of the authors of the article is not clear. The same caustic tone was in the comments of the media, for example, Irada Zeynalova at the first. People tired of the Caucasian demon are called drunk nationalists who succumbed to the provocations of their leaders staged illegal and illegal pogroms. Why insult and humiliate people like that? If the government is inactive, then sooner or later there will be pogroms and massacre, and our government that does not understand this, or maybe this is what it is achieving? People's patience burst and that’s all. And the statements of corrupt and worthless media, politicians, and security officials are insulting and disrespectful to their citizens. Disgusted by all this at heart.
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 14 October 2013 20: 54 New
      0
      Last news: Deputy Mayor of Moscow: Riots in Biryulyovo provoked "a bunch of frostbitten nationalists"
      MOSCOW, October 14. The riots in West Biryulyovo were provoked not by local residents, but by nationalist forces, said Moscow Deputy Mayor Alexander Gorbenko.
      "We are confident, and I think that the investigative measures will confirm this officially, that yesterday's riots were provoked by extremely nationalistic forces, because civilians behaved peacefully during meetings with the authorities," Gorbenko said at a press conference on Monday , Interfax reports.
      According to him, the relatives and friends of the deceased made a statement that they are categorically against inciting ethnic hatred.
      “The situation showed that the sudden call of a handful of frostbitten nationalists can lead to such consequences. Thank God that the internal affairs bodies worked quickly and professionally,” Gorbenko said.
      More details: http://www.rosbalt.ru/moscow/2013/10/14/1187645.html

      After such statements, I want to spit in the face of this deputy mayor - what a lie and cynicism!
  • blake
    blake 14 October 2013 09: 37 New
    +5
    These are only the first not even calls, calls.
  • NORILCHANIN
    NORILCHANIN 14 October 2013 09: 42 New
    +7
    PUTIN and MEDVEDEV do not give a damn about the order in Russia; the main thing for them to GAME is to conduct gas and oil under personal control. In which country of the world are the presidents
    Oil refineries also go to run oil pipelines with gas pipelines, but in no other
    Russia. In all likelihood, Mr. - Comrade - Barin Putin, BB is
    the owner of ROSNEFT as well as the whole of Russia, but a good owner is happy about the order in the family and why Putin is happy about it knows only HE and him -----.