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Russians don't want a secession of the Caucasus

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A study by the Agency "Polytech" showed that Russians do not feel themselves disadvantaged by the majority and are not against lezginka on the streets
In the Public Chamber presented the results of the sociological research "The national question in the socio-political life of Russia."


Russians don't want a secession of the Caucasus


The study was conducted by the Agency of social technologies "Polytech", edited by Mikhail Romanov. The focus of the study was on studying the opinions of three groups: the indigenous nations of the North Caucasus, the Volga region, Siberia and the Far East; the Russian population of these republics; Russian population metropolitan regions. More than 4000 thousand people were surveyed in 400 cities from all subjects of the Russian Federation.

The survey answered the following questions: should the nationality be returned to the passport? Do Russians oppress Russia? Is the North Caucasus worth separating from the Russian Federation? Do I need to call on Caucasians in the army? And even to the question of how Russians relate to Lezginka on the streets of their native city. And also, is there a future for nationalist parties, and is Islamization threatening Russia?

Count "nationality"

51% of respondents spoke in favor of introducing “nationality” in the passport. As a rule, supporters of the return graphs said that it is necessary to preserve the "roots" and "national traditions." 35% of respondents believe that this should not be done, 14% have not decided on the answer. Basically, Russians (54%) speak for the return of nationality to the passport, the residents of the North Caucasus strongly oppose this idea - 60%.

“Russian means oppressed”

When asked whether you believe the statement that “Russians in their own country that they historically created were in the role of an oppressed majority,” 37% of Russian citizens answered in the affirmative. Every second (53%) survey participant expressed the opinion that this statement does not reflect the true situation. The absolute majority of representatives of the titular peoples of the North Caucasian republics do not consider that the Russian people are in a depressed position.

“The titular North Caucasian peoples do not see anything reprehensible in the actual non-admission of Russians to the republican administrative elites,” the report says.

Ethnocrime

Half of the survey participants (51%) expressed the opinion that it is possible to indicate the nationality of the perpetrator, while many added that it was not only possible, but necessary. 40% against indication of nationality. Most often, the Russians of the capital regions (61%) spoke in favor of indicating the nationality of the criminal. In the capital cities, which are the centers of attraction for migrants (labor, education, leisure, etc.), the population associates the increase in crime with visitors. Most of the representatives of the titular peoples of the North Caucasus spoke out against indicating the ethnic affiliation of criminals (67%).

"Stop feeding the Caucasus"

The topic of secession from Russia of some republics of the North Caucasus was constantly discussed after the collapse of the USSR. In the 90s, Chechen separatists fought for secession of the Caucasus; now, not only Russian nationalists, but also journalists and politicians of liberal convictions are demanding secession.

66% of survey participants were against the separation of any regions from Russia. Some respondents expressed the opinion that separatism in Russia is inspired by the West, and the separation of even one region can serve as a catalyst for the complete destruction of Russia. Every fourth survey participant (26%) expressed the opinion that “some regions” should be separated from Russia, for example, one or another North Caucasian republics, or the entire North Caucasus. Representatives of the titular peoples of the North Caucasus spoke out against the separation of any region of 76%.

International army

In recent years, residents of Chechnya were not called in to the Russian army, and the call from Ingushetia and Dagestan was significantly reduced. This was due to the unwillingness of Caucasians to submit to military discipline. However, the survey results show that the majority of Russians (63%) believe that residents of Chechnya, Ingushetia and Dagestan should be drafted into the Russian army. True, there were ideas about the creation of separate national parts. The call was made by 63% of respondents, 28% against. Representatives of the titular peoples of the North Caucasus overwhelmingly spoke in favor of the appeal - 83%.

Everybody is dancing

In recent years, conflicts have arisen regularly in many Russian cities related to the provocative behavior of Caucasian youth. In particular, young Caucasians, who dance lezginka in public places of large cities, cause considerable irritation among local residents. To reduce tensions in society, the heads of the Caucasian republics have repeatedly spoken against lezginka on the streets of Russian cities.

Despite this, the survey showed that 38% of respondents are positive to the Caucasians' dances, 39% are neutral, only 21% are negative. However, even respondents who said that they were dancing towards Caucasians in a neutral or even positive manner mentioned the antisocial behavior of Caucasian youth.

The future of nationalist parties

The older generation of Russians to nationalism is clearly negative. At the same time, half of the Russian youth (51%) perceive nationalism as neutral, and 13% - positively. The number of convinced supporters of nationalism is small, but for the majority of Russian youth, nationalism is a permissible ideology.

46% of the Russian participants in this poll were ready to vote for the party, which would declare the protection of the interests of the Russians as the main target, 54% for the Orthodox party.

Islamization

Most Russians, including Muslims, are secular. At the same time, residents of Chechnya and Ingushetia are largely guided by Islamic norms.

Polygamy

Most Russians, including residents of the Caucasus, believe that polygamy in Russia should be banned everywhere - 57%. Polygamy is favored only in Chechnya and Ingushetia - 62%.

Hijabs

The absolute majority of Russians have a negative attitude to hijabs in schools - 74%. In all the republics with the traditional spread of Islam, the number of opponents significantly exceeds the number of supporters of wearing hijabs in schools. The exception to this rule is only Chechnya and Ingushetia, where the number of opponents (45%) is equal to the number of supporters (44%) of wearing hijabs in schools.

Islamic parties

There are no registered Islamic parties in the Russian Federation today, however, according to the results of this study, it can be argued that if such were created, they would have a certain potential. According to the poll in Dagestan and Bashkortostan, Islamic parties could fight on equal terms with other political parties, and in Chechnya and Ingushetia, no party could have been a real competitor to the Islamic party.

The leader of the New Force party, MGIMO professor Valery Solovey is skeptical about the findings of sociological polls: “Here we are talking in questions and formulations, you can get any result, whatever you want, the main thing is to correctly formulate the question.”

The professor believes that if sociologists asked: “Do you consider the North Caucasus to be a part of Russia?” - the majority would answer that they do not.

“The purpose of this survey was to show that the Russians are positive towards the North Caucasus, that they consider it a part of Russia,” says Nightingale.

Director of the Information and Analytical Center "Sova" Alexander Verkhovsky, believes that the state should not be led by nationalist-minded citizens.

“I would not like to comment on this report, I read it carefully. I would like to say what the state needs to do: we should not be led by the nationalists, even if it seems to us that they represent the position of a significant part of society. The state must protect the constitutional foundations. Fortunately, the survey shows that the majority of citizens did not succumb to nationalist propaganda, although the trends are still pretty sad, especially if you look at the trends by age. The survey shows that there are problems, but the state does not do anything, and it is eliminated from their solution. Negotiations that the authorities are conducting, for example, with representatives of diasporas, with citizens in Pugachev, are not perceived by the population. In fact, the state must declare that it will do this and that, and begin to do so. It must follow the stated principles, ”Verkhovsky told the Russian Planet.
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  1. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 8 October 2013 07: 47
    32
    It must be written in my passport that I am Russian. It is important. I have a Tatar friend, he would like his passport to reflect this fact.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 8 October 2013 07: 59
      28
      Quote: FC Skif
      I have a Tatar friend, he would like his passport to reflect this fact.

      And why are the inhabitants of the Caucasus sharply opposed to this, they are so proud that they are from the Caucasus, that they will become dumb if they see in the passport who they are by nationality.
      Return to the count and all! Tired of it already without a clan, without a tribe.
      1. zmey_gadukin
        zmey_gadukin 8 October 2013 10: 24
        +6
        Alexander, well, on this site they repeatedly convinced that there are no Russians, but there are only Russians and do not care even Tatar, even Yakut .... Russians and that’s all! How to deal with this?
        1. Avenger711
          Avenger711 8 October 2013 12: 52
          +1
          And as in China. There they spit on original cultures.
    2. mirag2
      mirag2 8 October 2013 08: 01
      34
      Yes, it’s right! Why can people be against it? I think that everyone, no matter who he is, is Russian, Lezgin, Tatar or Bashkir is not shy about his nationality.
      If only it suddenly reveals something unsightly?
      What do some want to hide?
      What can we see-that we have 70% of deputies-servants of the people of the Jews? Or that 95% of the journalists are Jews? Maybe this?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 8 October 2013 10: 17
        13
        Quote: mirag2
        What can we see-that we have 70% of deputies-servants of the people of the Jews? Or that 95% of the journalists are Jews? Maybe this?

        + I think this is what they are hiding.
        1. IRBIS
          IRBIS 8 October 2013 11: 27
          +6
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          I think this is what they are hiding.

          Sanya, to hell with him with a passport, but where do they get their typical faces? You can’t hide shnobely, fact.
          And nationality needs to be returned, we are not in America, thank God we live!
      2. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 8 October 2013 11: 28
        0
        Quote: mirag2
        Yes, it’s right! Why can people be against it? I think that everyone, no matter who he is, is Russian, Lezgin, Tatar or Bashkir is not shy about his nationality.
        If only it suddenly reveals something unsightly?
        What do some want to hide?
        What can we see-that we have 70% of deputies-servants of the people of the Jews? Or that 95% of the journalists are Jews? Maybe this?

        I think this is not enough. Everyone needs to glue a nationality sign on his forehead, and then invent the stigma, we will burn it ... in a prominent place. But Jews in general need to be completely painted in a special color, so that the enemy could be immediately seen good Really what to be ashamed of? But if a Chinese man takes and writes for example - I’m Russian, then when we don’t touch the rest of the Chinese, we’ll touch him, he’s already our Russian! Or .. we’ll appoint an examination, let him donate blood, we’ll examine the section of the eyes and other signs - suddenly the enemy has clambered into our ranks. So, after all, anyone can call himself Russian, but in fact he will turn out to be Chuvash or Tatar? And most importantly, what do these people want to hide? Indeed, suddenly they hide something unsightly, and what if ?! Enemies need to know in person! what
        Listen, but maybe you should not look for a person’s unwillingness to indicate his nationality, some kind of dirty trick, a hidden threat to others, huh? maybe all the same it is his constitutional right to self-determination, the choice of who to be and how to live, eh? request
    3. vadimus
      vadimus 8 October 2013 08: 15
      20
      Do they wait for the Russians to become an ethnic minority to begin to indicate their nationality?
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 8 October 2013 09: 56
        0
        Quote: vadimus
        I think that every person, no matter who he is, is Russian, Lezgin, Tatar or Bashkir is not shy about his nationality.

        To indicate whether or not to indicate your nationality in a passport is a purely personal matter, everyone must decide whether he needs it or not.
        1. chehywed
          chehywed 8 October 2013 14: 16
          +8
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          To indicate whether or not to indicate your nationality in a passport is a purely personal matter, everyone must decide whether he needs it or not.

          Anecdote to the topic
          Little Moisha comes home, comes to mom, and says:
          - Mom, mom, and today at school I wrote in the column "Nationality" that I'm Russian!
          “Son, what did you eat for lunch every day?”
          - chicken
          - Here, and now you will eat potatoes, like all Russian children.
          Moysha was upset, went to dad, thinks maybe dad will approve.
          Coming to dad:
          - Dad, dad, and today in the column "Nationality" at school I wrote sho I'm Russian!
          - Son, what did you go to school every day on?
          - By car, Dad!
          - Here, and now you will ride a tram, like all Russian children.
          Moysha, completely upset, comes to grandfather, suddenly he approves:
          - Grandfather, grandfather, and today I wrote in the column "Nationality" I'm Russian!
          - Granddaughters, how much did you get pocket money every day in school?
          - The steward, grandfather!
          - Here, and now you will receive a rupe, like all Russian children.
          Moysha was completely upset; he sits down with his family for dinner.
          Everyone is eating a chicken, winking at each other.
          Moysha is eating potatoes.
          Then mom asks Moisha:
          “Well, son, how are you going to be Russian?”
          - Bl @ t, just a couple of hours, like a Russian, but I already hate you Jews!
          1. alone
            alone 8 October 2013 22: 24
            0
            Quote: chehywed
            Anecdote to the topic


            cool joke)))
        2. DJEIN8
          DJEIN8 8 October 2013 15: 18
          0
          Ruslan_F38 11:28
          YOU ... NOT RIGHT ... by covering up your wretchedness to post
          photo ACTOR AND MAN PAPANOV next to
          ...... WHAT are you "setting out" here ....
          ... IT'S VINDLE and NASTY ....
          It is not clear why moderators DO NOT PAY FOR SUCH ATTENTION ....
          1. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 8 October 2013 16: 46
            +1
            Quote: DJEIN8
            YOU ... NOT RIGHT ... by covering up your wretchedness to post
            photo ACTOR AND MAN PAPANOV next to
            ...... WHAT are you "setting out" here ....
            ... IT'S VINDLE and NASTY ....
            It is not clear why moderators DO NOT PAY FOR SUCH ATTENTION ....


            Well, I think the moderators will figure out for themselves who they should pay attention to and who they don’t.
            Actually, the lines of my commentary left at 11.28 are irony, and therefore you should not take everything literally and run to paint the Jews, wet the Chinese and burn the stigmas of the rest. Regarding wretchedness, it's you in vain, well, it's not true. hi
            But about the photo of my favorite actor Papanov, it's not your business - understand?
      2. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 8 October 2013 12: 56
        0
        Quote: vadimus
        Do they wait for the Russians to become an ethnic minority to begin to indicate their nationality?


        This will happen only when any Americans become the titular majority in the Russian Federation. Will they then use this column? Then here all indigenous peoples will be a minority.
    4. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 8 October 2013 13: 02
      +3
      Quote: FC Skiff
      It must be written in my passport that I am Russian. It is important. I have a Tatar friend, he would like his passport to reflect this fact.


      Everyone has a friend, a Jew or a Tatar, I’ve even got a Saudi friend. I do not understand why the article was omitted. The author simply quoted the survey and concluded that the conclusion is correct. He wants to sprinkle in himself, let it be, only Nikton has canceled the integrity of the country. Even if they marry, even if they live with donkeys, even if they create a national army, in Siberia, for example, only then let them forget about separation, get off our neck and pay taxes.
      1. smile
        smile 8 October 2013 13: 46
        +3
        Geisenberg
        With surprise about the article covered, I agree. With that. that if they want to boil in their own juice, let them boil categorically not. It is necessary to involve them in the life of the country and accustom them to normal coexistence. Otherwise, the integrity of the country will be in jeopardy. And no narodia and national formations are a ready source of ignition.
        I ask you to draw the attention of colleagues that according to this survey, and we, I think, can see it without him, our liberals joyfully joined our liberals, who say that enough to feed the Caucasus and it is necessary to separate it. This very clearly illustrates who is struggling to inspire ethnic hatred and separatism in our country. And those who thoughtlessly support such slogans should think about whether they should speak in line with the liberals, who, obviously, all sound only slogans approved by their puppeteers. It also makes us appreciate on whose mill our few ultranationalists poured water ...
  2. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 8 October 2013 07: 54
    +3
    from the Don.
    Q: Polytech: -! What to take from them !?
  3. fklj
    fklj 8 October 2013 07: 54
    17
    The pennies for these surveys and studies are worthless. As the sponsor / customer says, interest will fall
    1. kris
      kris 8 October 2013 10: 03
      +6
      Quote: fklj
      The pennies for these surveys and studies are worthless. As the sponsor / customer says, interest will fall

      here I am about the same.
      Another manipulation of numbers.
    2. O_RUS
      O_RUS 8 October 2013 10: 11
      11
      good +


      a minus article
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 8 October 2013 11: 11
        +6
        the survey showed that 38% of respondents are positive towards Caucasians' dances, 39% are neutral, only 21% are negative.
        I would look at these 38 percent.
        1. smile
          smile 8 October 2013 13: 59
          +2
          Ingvar 72
          Perhaps the interrogators cheated, and the question sounded, how do they relate to their dances in general, and not to the dominant dances of savages with injuries that escaped from their mountain villages.
          I explain to those who do not understand, I do not consider all Caucasians savages, I believe that they are the same as us, but those who defiantly arrange dances, namely savages, claiming their superiority with their jumping-skoks ... they to their poor folly, it is believed that since they aren’t kicking them for such rivulets, it means they are the coolest .... in principle, the best way would be to publicly flogging mountain eagles for every such trick ... a whipped ass becomes much smarter than an empty head ... but unfortunately, this is not accepted here ... but for a couple of days in the temporary detention center too, nothing - there mountain eagles instantly turn into wet chickens ... just magically :)))
  4. pinecone
    pinecone 8 October 2013 07: 58
    +8
    A set of nonsense.
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 8 October 2013 09: 44
      10
      Show me those who like Lezginka in public places and generally ugly behavior of Caucasians in public? According to the report, "only 21% are negative." Where this research was carried out - apparently in the Caucasus.
  5. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 8 October 2013 08: 05
    25
    “The titular North Caucasian peoples do not see anything reprehensible in the actual non-admission of Russians to the republican administrative elites,” the report says.


    So much for TOLERANCE means that the Russian people should show this according to DAM to their oppressors of various kinds, show tolerance, turn their cheek to blow both right and left, portray friendship to all sorts of scumbags, etc.

    Such sociological polls are pure lies.

    This is sadomasochism in its purest form.
    1. Stiletto
      Stiletto 8 October 2013 08: 58
      10
      There are three degrees of lies: Lies, Impudent Lies, and Statistics.
  6. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 8 October 2013 08: 16
    11
    Director of the Information and Analytical Center "Sova" Alexander Verkhovsky, believes that the state should not be led by nationalist-minded citizens.
    “I would not want to comment on this report; I read it carefully. I would like to say what the state needs to do: we should not follow the nationalists' lead, even if it seems to us that they represent the position of a significant part of society.


    If the state does not want to protect the Russian-speaking population as it was in the 90s in the Caucasus
    I will support even the devil if it saves the Russian people from extermination.
    And this director of the Information and Analytical Center “Sova” represents the interests of a small handful of people who are interested so that Russians do not exist as a people.
  7. waisson
    waisson 8 October 2013 08: 27
    12
    the stupid polls clearly feel the Chechen trace, for example, I count for the nationality column and I am against Lezghinka on the street and against keeping the Caucasus (Chechnya Dagesta) that are lawless on the streets of Russian cities, I will not be against separation, but on condition that Russia sends them all to their own habitat. so much is allowed in comparison with a simple indigenous RUSSIAN
    1. queen
      queen 8 October 2013 08: 42
      +6
      Quote: waisson
      stupid polls clearly felt Chechen trace

      Rather, the Jews ... they then know how to pit peoples, but at the same time remain white and fluffy.
      1. New Russia
        New Russia 8 October 2013 14: 51
        +1
        Jews are to blame for ethnic crime? In the chaos of Caucasian pigs? (I ask all Caucasians not to be offended only about pigs, which, by the way, are the majority in Chechnya) Do you suggest that Russians tolerate this and not "play off"? :) And if your daughter walks with these at night, how will you react ?: )
    2. Sergeant Air Force
      Sergeant Air Force 8 October 2013 08: 43
      +4
      Separation is not allowed. The Caucasus covers the south. In the Rostov steppes or the Stavropol plains, an attack on Russia would have been much easier. Not to mention the economic potential of the Kavz republics. Another thing is that they do not know how to use it properly.
  8. Troy
    Troy 8 October 2013 08: 44
    27
    I am amazed at the cries of Russian nationalism. And why is no one trying to figure out where he went from? After all, he did not suddenly appear. Why is it a disgrace for a Russian minority to marry a Russian daughter? Yes, we have many mixed marriages, I do not argue, but the fact is the fact. The Russian husband is neither for Tatars, nor for Dagestanis, nor for Moldavians, etc. not valid. But is this not nationalism at the household level? Now many will answer me that they have many familiar mixed couples, I assure you that I can list as many (or even more) where the parents on the girl’s side were against. And what about relations with Russians in the former republics of the USSR? And what do they want after that, so that we would kiss them in the ass further? I can’t understand at all, where did they get so much hatred for the Russians that we did to them? Maybe it was necessary to act with the peoples where the Russian Empire came, to act like the British? How many peoples they destroyed at the root, but no one accuses them of great-power chauvinism. As soon as the Russian says something in defense of his interests, a screech begins about nationalism and great-power chauvinism. But didn’t one nation disappear from the face of the earth under the Russian Empire or the USSR. Everyone seems to be alive.
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 8 October 2013 10: 05
      -6
      Quote: Troy
      Why is it a disgrace for a Russian minority to marry a Russian daughter?
      - if nationality plays a role, then by 10 percent, and the remaining 90%, this is for religious reasons. I’m sure if some Russian brother accepts Islam, many and very many Dagestan fathers of girls will be pleased with him.
    2. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 8 October 2013 10: 11
      10
      Quote: Troy
      I can’t understand at all, where did they get so much hatred for the Russians that we did to them?


      We prevent them from finally turning into savages living by "concepts." In addition, we have completely different values ​​and perceptions of the world, a different religion, finally.
    3. mamba
      mamba 8 October 2013 11: 01
      +6
      Quote: Troy
      I can’t understand at all, where did they get so much hatred for the Russians that we did to them?

      Like what? Eradicated the slave trade - a favorite, convenient and honorable way of existence of wild Aborigines. They banned raids, robberies and blood feuds. They imposed a secular lifestyle on people obsessed with Islamic norms of behavior. And under the Communists, they also sucked in Marxism-Leninism. In a word, everything is out of concept!
      Quote: Troy
      Maybe it was necessary to act with the peoples where the Russian Empire came, to act like the British? How many peoples they destroyed at the root, but no one accuses them of great-power chauvinism.

      Definitely not, but not to give a reason to consider the Russians weak. After all, savages understand only strength and rigidity. There is no other way to make them respect us.
    4. Alexei
      Alexei 8 October 2013 12: 59
      +1
      Quote: Troy
      I can’t understand at all, where did they get so much hatred for the Russians that we did to them?

      If you want to make the enemy - help him, lend.
  9. erased
    erased 8 October 2013 09: 04
    12
    A strange survey and more than strange results. Ethnic crime, illegal migration, power indulgence in banditry and violence - and this does not cause rejection? Nude Nude.
    1. Nitup
      Nitup 8 October 2013 10: 35
      -3
      Quote: erased
      A strange survey and more than strange results. Ethnic crime, illegal migration, power indulgence in banditry and violence - and this does not cause rejection? Nude Nude.

      Ethnic Crime - There is no ethnic crime. There are decent people, and there are criminals. Illegal migration? Do you know what migration is in general? The Caucasus is part of Russia and its inhabitants are not migrants when moving around the country. Indulgence of crime and banditry by the authorities: yes, this is a problem in the Caucasus, but measures are being taken. In particular, the arrest of the mayor of Makhachkala and other officials, etc.
      1. hrych
        hrych 8 October 2013 11: 23
        +6
        There is the concept of internal migration, no less disgusting. Back in the USSR, a propiska institute existed to prevent this abomination. In any case, there is a concept of ethnic crime, and if there is a percentage of criminals among Russians - minuscule, then, for example, the percentage of Roma who do not participate in crime is the same minuscule.
    2. Stiletto
      Stiletto 8 October 2013 11: 15
      +4
      Quote: erased
      A strange survey and more than strange results.


      According to a survey conducted on the Internet, to the question: "Do you use the Internet?", 100% of the respondents answered affirmatively.

      So this poll is from about the same area ...
  10. evgenii67
    evgenii67 8 October 2013 09: 12
    10
    Hello everyone! It seems that the Custom article (supposedly the majority of FOR and all GUD, custom-made because there are many minuses here in VO) really, none of those who are sitting on VO did not get on the poll ?! I will be for Lezghinka when I will know with confidence that in the central square in Grozny you can SAFELY dance gopok near Kalinka-Malinka (for example), and since I am against, concerts and various festive international events are one thing, but Aslan and Umar (for example) “The titular peoples of the North Caucasus do not see anything reprehensible in the fact that Russians are not allowed into the republican administrative elites”, in general, Caucasians do everything that they did before in regions where the majority of residents are RUSSIAN, but the Russians infinitely like what they do, and why ask the Russians at all, let them go to the Arctic Circle (just kidding) and article minus. The question is, who was they interviewed at all?
    1. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 8 October 2013 10: 13
      17
      evgenii67
      I will support. You (and not only), in my opinion, have identified the main idea of ​​the article:
      Quote: evgenii67
      “The titular North Caucasian peoples do not see anything reprehensible in the actual preventing Russians to republican managerial elites ”,

      And the rest is all ... water ...
      Well, tell me why you, me, any Russian (!!!), even if allowed - dance in the squares, shoot up and not only, drive in wheelbarrows, ignoring ALL rules, even logical ones - ANYWHERE? What for? We express joy, success, sorrow in a completely different way. After all, even from a funeral, they easily make demonstrations, screams, or, while carrying the body in their arms, lifting it above their heads. Bullshit ... From our point of view. It’s normal with them. Yes, I don’t argue, their traditions.

      So let it go ALL THIS do it yourself !!! I do not need it. They can think about our way of thinking - whatever they want. BUT !!! Being at home! And I'm at YOURSELF in the homeland, and also (!!!) I can (and will!)think about them based on their Russian-Soviet upbringing. For me, they ... more precisely and remember ... something extremely aggressive, unbalanced, uncultured (elementary illiterate and (!) unwilling to learn), always screaming (!!! interestingly, do they even know what a SCREAM is?), arrogant COMMUNITY. I agree, one way they can be adequate ...

      Guys, this is my opinion. No extremism, fascism, nationalism - just OPINION. Russian, located in his homeland. Once again I say - they can think of EVERYTHING about us. BUT! At home. Let them live and work there. I’m not going to them. Why are you busting here?
      Quote: erased
      Ethnic crime, illegal migration, power indulgence in banditry and violence - and this does not cause rejection?


      They are already becoming heads of housing offices, police and other government agencies. WHO is it necessary ??? O N O speaks Russian barely, confusing cases, gender, numbers.
      So what am I supposed to say to such a "RULER"?
      "You are not my brother, but Mr. yes h ... I am" Film "Brother".

      Admins and moderators, please do not "erase". It's just an opinion ...
    2. DJEIN8
      DJEIN8 8 October 2013 14: 07
      0
      evgenii67 09:12, Z.A. 10:13 a.m.
      You described everything exactly, and if there are requests to the Admins and moderators to leave
      written, this is a very bad symptom ....
      In the days of the USSR, when lezginka danced ON STAGE, IN HALLS, ARTISTS, AT CONCERT
      SQUARE ... EVERYTHING ... the watchers clapping to cheer the dancers, with smiles on
      persons ..... and any propaganda was nothing to do with .... it was friendly
      feelings for friendly people ... although even then, the behavior of some of them
      did not correspond to the concept of "friendly" ...
      WHAT they DO NOW and ... CHANGED ... attitude towards them ... crossed the BORDERS
      HUMAN RESPECT being in GUESTS .... WE ARE RUSSIA, but at the same time everyone has
      OWN HOUSE and ... EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING ... a Russian should ALWAYS REMEMBER this ......
      ANY bestial behavior, especially ... CRIMINAL ... ANY CITIZEN. !!!
      ... HAS NO RELATIONSHIP TO THE NATIONALITY ... !!! ... NO ...
      And if the NATION consists of PEOPLE then ... IT IS MYSELF ... first of all from RESPECT TO MYSELF ..
      MUST bring order to this matter ... ... ANY NATION ...
      And if the NURSE of normal people cause their moral, understandable feelings and
      ATTITUDE TO THE FOLLOWING ARRIVERS FROM WHERE THEY WERE NOT NOBLE ... Only he who
      is a MORAL freak may not understand this, including, using for
      excuses HARVESTED ON NATIONAL SOIL ....
  11. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 8 October 2013 09: 24
    10
    The poll was fabricated, about the fact that they do not want to separate from us, it is understandable - Allah will stop giving them money, but do we have Russian nationalism at all? I understand if Russians in the Caucasus began to demand more rights for themselves, and who will be responsible for the genocide of the 90s in the Caucasus? What can the "hero of Russia" Kadyrov say to that?
  12. Russ69
    Russ69 8 October 2013 09: 24
    +1
    We must fight, not specifically with the Caucasians, but with fools. Which is enough everywhere, unfortunately.
    And to separate, then complete stupidity. First two wars to go through, then invest a lot of money. And as a result, separate to get aggressive neighbors, where Wahhabism can quickly gain strength.
    As for the lysgin, I personally have nothing against it, if this happens in a civilized way and in certain places. In any case, no worse than the crowd of teenagers with beer in their hands, which we have to observe, much more often alas ...
    That’s what, I categorically disagree, with the national military units and religious parties ...
    1. O_RUS
      O_RUS 8 October 2013 10: 47
      +1
      Quote: Russ69
      In any case, no worse than the crowd of teenagers with beer in their hands, which we have to observe, much more often alas ...


      and you don’t watch how young people get drunk. Do something
    2. New Russia
      New Russia 8 October 2013 14: 45
      +3
      That is, in your opinion, in the early 90s in Chechnya, Russians were killed and expelled simply "fools who are enough everywhere"? :) And in Pugachev they demand to expel "fools" and not all Caucasians?
  13. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 8 October 2013 09: 51
    +7
    The vast majority of representatives of the titular peoples of the North Caucasus republics do not believe that the Russian people are in a depressed position.

    “The titular North Caucasian peoples do not see anything reprehensible in the actual non-admission of Russians to the republican administrative elites,” the report says.
    - it is we who are kind to them, and they directly point the Russians to their place. If it seems to someone that this is just such a national feature, in fact it is a very dangerous tendency when Russians are publicly placed one step below the so-called "titular" nations and this happens in their own country!
  14. both s69
    both s69 8 October 2013 09: 55
    11
    I am Russian and let everyone know about it !!! There should be a column in the passport - nationality !!! hi
    1. chehywed
      chehywed 8 October 2013 14: 38
      +2
      Quote: both-with 69
      I am Russian and let everyone know about it !!! There should be a column in the passport - nationality !!!

      Oleg. I am also Russian. And in order to be aware of this, I do not need to look into my passport for a reminder. hi
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 8 October 2013 15: 06
        +3
        And I am a Belarusian, and even my second profession proves it, I make oak floors (SUV) smile
  15. DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 8 October 2013 10: 20
    +3
    The survey is custom-made for me. And its results are not objective IMHO.
    Because for each survey there are shoals of whom and where they asked. For example, here ...
    "When asked whether you believe the statement that "the Russians in their own country, which they historically created, turned out to be in the role of an oppressed majority," 37% of Russian citizens answered in the affirmative."
    Who and where was interviewed, I personally believe that Russians are being infringed. That if you are Russian, you are guilty. Again, consider the old pickle for srachs on the forums, there is truth in it, it says: "If the Russian hit ha ** a, then this 282 and attempted murderif ha *** hit russian it's maximum administrative offense, or national traditions such". I'm not very serious about this, but this is mostly true. That is, infringement on ethnic grounds.
    Further cooler:
    -"In recent years, many Russian cities regularly have conflicts associated with defiant behavior of Caucasian youth."Well, not conflicts, but stabbing and criminality. A conflict is when they sent each other and dispersed, each with his own. And so this is shooting and stabbing. Often with a fatal outcome, And the" guests "from the mountains then descended" nothing to do with " or they will be jammed, or then they release them on the brakes. This is also an infringement of the Russians in my opinion.
    The national question is long overdue, the Russians have lost it and they will be destroyed and oppressed further. That's the whole logic.
  16. pluginigor
    pluginigor 8 October 2013 10: 22
    +9
    Over 4000 thousand people were interviewed in 400 cities from all the constituent entities of the Russian Federation. Those. 10 people in 400 cities? I wonder how it looked physically?
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 8 October 2013 12: 32
      +2
      Quote: pluginigor
      Over 4000 thousand people were interviewed in 400 cities from all the constituent entities of the Russian Federation. Those. 10 people in 400 cities?
      ----- once again convinced ------- mathematics, the whole head ......... hi
  17. understudy
    understudy 8 October 2013 10: 28
    +4
    The conclusions of the indicated survey are a consequence of the implementation of the well-known "Three Ps" method - finger-floor-ceiling. Otherwise, order. Statistics on the LKN problem will mean something only when the opinion of residents of nearby regions is analyzed - Stavropol, Kuban, Don ...
    The authorities are blurring their eyes, although, I am absolutely sure, and knows that the result of the pursued national policy is that Article 282 of the Criminal Code is called “Russian” among the people for some reason.
    The reasons for conferring the ranks of generals, the titles of Hero and other dubious "nishtyaks" - that's what needs to be studied and brought to the public. For there are many questions.
  18. varov14
    varov14 8 October 2013 10: 28
    +4
    Is that 4 people from the village? Worthless such a survey, phoned friends or editorial staff for example and made conclusions.
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  20. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 8 October 2013 10: 41
    +2
    The Caucasus was and will be part of Russia (even if they or we wall off from them or from us) It so happened historically geographically and politically .. And this whole mess was clearly artificially created and for which everyone knows .. So, swing the boat useless and dangerous (for rockers)))
  21. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 8 October 2013 10: 41
    0
    The Caucasus was and will be part of Russia (even if they or we wall off from them or from us) It so happened historically geographically and politically .. And this whole mess was clearly artificially created and for which everyone knows .. So, swing the boat useless and dangerous (for rockers)))
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 8 October 2013 14: 42
      +4
      The Caucasus will be part of Russia, Chechnya Ingushetia and Dagestan no. An empire in which the main people have less rights than the conquered is not an empire but some kind of crap ... oh :)
      1. alone
        alone 8 October 2013 22: 28
        -1
        if one entity leaves the composition of Russia, a catastrophe will happen. Those who call for the separation of the North Caucasus from Russia, call for the collapse of their own country. These people are the fifth column.
        1. New Russia
          New Russia 9 October 2013 00: 57
          0
          Most of the population is the fifth column? :) Today, the next murder of a Russian schoolgirl by a geek in St. Petersburg would you be better worried about the victims of these freaks
  22. Stepnogorets
    Stepnogorets 8 October 2013 10: 44
    +1
    If for the majority this poll is bullshit, separate the Caucasus from Russia and see what happens!
    1. O_RUS
      O_RUS 8 October 2013 10: 54
      0
      Quote: Stepnogorets
      If for the majority this poll is bullshit, separate the Caucasus from Russia and see what happens!


      what is so miserable? The head is given to a person not only to wear a hat
  23. optimist
    optimist 8 October 2013 10: 50
    +1
    The article is full of bullshit, starting with its title! What is the point of separating the UK if the most smelly "fleas" from this "mangy dog" have already spread across Russia and occupied the most trump places? Catching these "Indians" and throwing them into their "uluses" is also unrealistic: civil war is assured. The only way out is to deal with them, as the Americans once solved the "Indian question". The current government, of course, will not agree to this: the circle is closed. So we will continue to endure their antics and pay tribute ... And a simple separation of the territory will not give anything except another gemmoroi in terms of the security of the southern borders. In economic terms, these territories are practically of no value, taking into account the population that does not want to work ...
    1. both s69
      both s69 8 October 2013 14: 28
      +1
      That's right, you said, and to the point. Without unnecessary emotions and interjections! Thank. This is exactly the situation that has developed in Russia today. Neither reduce what is called nor add. hi
  24. nod739
    nod739 8 October 2013 11: 02
    +1
    Quote: waisson
    I am against Lezghinka on the street and against us keeping the Caucasus (Chechnya of Dagest) that create lawlessness on the streets of Russian cities, I will not oppose secession, but on condition that Russia sends them all to their own environment.


    Do you know why they conquered the Caucasus and shed blood?
    look at the map
    to separate? so can we leave Muscovy the Novgorod and Suzdal principality? where were the original Slavs?

    or do you want the border with Turkey to lie next to the growth on the don? or even near Voronezh? and, accordingly, all sorts of patriots and NATO were there ???
    Caucasian republics in the event of separation will turn into ala Estonia to bark at Russia and get hooked, A holy place does not exist empty, there Americans will immediately find friends.

    lawlessness on the streets and their relatives also do.

    Well, let the lezginka dance, dancing is good when it is beautiful and everyone likes it.
    it’s just that you need to behave normally. so as not to interfere with dancing, and most importantly not to drive yourself defiantly
    1. hrych
      hrych 8 October 2013 11: 32
      +1
      It’s just that every year the percentage of internationally educated Russians falls, now the 40–70-year-old October people rule the state, after five years when this evil comes down, you don’t recognize the North Caucasus, the hapak dance will supplant the ligament and most likely forever.
  25. nod739
    nod739 8 October 2013 11: 16
    +1
    Quote: Troy
    I can’t understand at all, where did they get so much hatred for the Russians that we did to them? Maybe it was necessary to act with the peoples where the Russian Empire came, to act like the British?


    and we taught them to read and write, built factories, all kinds of rafs and vefs, airlines in Tbilisi, taught us how to make houses not from dungs ​​but from brick, dug channels to them so that they could grow something in the desert, they spent electricity, they gave the opportunity to be on par ....

    Yes, as they say from good, they don’t look for good ...
  26. zmey_gadukin
    zmey_gadukin 8 October 2013 11: 36
    +5
    I’ve thought ... by father, all Ukrainians from Pastavy, mothers from Oryol province are Russian, but there were Tatars in the family, my last name was typical Polish, and my Ukrainian passport ... who am I? )))
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 8 October 2013 11: 49
      +4
      Quote: zmey_gadukin
      I’ve thought ... by father, all Ukrainians from Pastavy, mothers from Oryol province are Russian, but there were Tatars in the family, my last name was typical Polish, and my Ukrainian passport ... who am I? )))

      MAN and many need to understand this, that it is not nationality that determines a person, but his upbringing, his inner world and the values ​​with which he lives!
      1. zmey_gadukin
        zmey_gadukin 8 October 2013 11: 57
        +4
        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        MAN and many need to understand this

        can not argue with that )
    2. alone
      alone 8 October 2013 22: 28
      -1
      first of all, man. and the rest is of secondary importance.

  27. major071
    major071 8 October 2013 11: 38
    +5
    The article is nonsense. It is written clearly to order. They just want to convince us that everything is fine in Russia, all white and fluffy, and we have no interethnic problems. In any country they are, including ours. It’s just that they should not be hushed up while painting rainbow paintings, but eradicated.
    1. Breeze59
      Breeze59 8 October 2013 12: 42
      +1
      True truth. To speed up.
  28. 1536
    1536 8 October 2013 12: 10
    +1
    I am reading the news about the APEC Summit 2013. The leaders of the states put on the national Indonesian clothes and posed in front of video and cameras. And in the next paragraph, that at the same meeting in 2012 in Vladivostok, Russia generally did without national clothes. Like this. Or, nevertheless, something is wrong? It is time for the leadership of our "main party" to think about national clothes for the citizens of Russia, and to make an order, probably, from "famous" our "fashion designers" of the type of military uniform. "Probably so!", As Winnie the Pooh used to say. About Vladivostok. It is no secret that the Cossacks mastered the Far East. Ivan Yuryevich Moskvitin is considered to be the discoverer. The Cossacks certainly had and still have their own clothes. Or are the elites "ashamed" of their history, gentlemen?
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 8 October 2013 12: 43
      +1
      Quote: 1536
      it's time for our "main party" to think
      - it’s given that people there are initially selected not capable of this ........ otherwise how to explain Serdyukov, Chubais and others ???????????????
  29. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 8 October 2013 12: 36
    0
    Why separate the Caucasus. We need him, but without Caucasians. To solve this issue, two things are needed - political will and one hundred thousand tons of napalm.

    1. Lakkuchu
      Lakkuchu 8 October 2013 13: 08
      -3
      Yeah .. come on, hold the flag.
    2. hrych
      hrych 8 October 2013 16: 24
      +4
      When there is a big war, hostile elements behind, no one will leave, except for napalm there are more humane methods that Yermolov did after cleansing the Caucasus and what Stalin did. Only the tsarist regime was wiser and deported outside its state. But at present, unfortunately, conflicts are fleeting for some and there will be no time for these antimonies, the task will be solved again not by napalm, but by means of mass destruction.
  30. Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu 8 October 2013 13: 12
    +2
    Those who want should be given the opportunity to indicate their nationality in the passport, but ... for those who do not honor their kind and tribe (as expressed above), those who do not know their roots and traditions, no inscription will help, even write her forehead, this is nothing more than an excuse.
  31. anushin10ru
    anushin10ru 8 October 2013 13: 14
    +8
    Every nation has the right to life and homeland, Caucasians are no exception. Interethnic insults are another matter. The facts of the often provocative behavior of Caucasians in Russian cities are easy to explain. Most likely, the Russian power elite will benefit from a certain escalation of Russian ethnic hatred towards Caucasians, Central Asians, and vice versa. This distracts the population from realizing the true reasons, to put it mildly, not very good social and economic conditions, a kind of lightning rod. The true cause of all our troubles is the unjust, slowly killing Russia bourgeois - comprador system, the main support of which every day you see on the TV screen broadcasting wise and eternal are true.
    1. Lakkuchu
      Lakkuchu 8 October 2013 13: 20
      +2
      Your truth.
    2. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 8 October 2013 15: 35
      +3
      Are murders, rapes, slavery, "defiant behavior"? What do they do with a pack of mad dogs? Do they teach you order? No. The madmen calm down in only one way. You yourself know how.
  32. New Russia
    New Russia 8 October 2013 14: 25
    +2
    Anyone who believes in opinion polls needs to remember that according to the opinion poll, in July it seems that Medvedev's rating is 58% and that according to the new rating, 1% are ready to vote for him. Opinion polls are needed to manipulate the mind. If the Russians really were so tolerant, could Pugachev happen?
    Petersburg?

    Petersburg again

    And much more.
  33. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 8 October 2013 15: 51
    +4
    The survey in the above article is a blatant lie !!! Everyone has already gotten this policy of the government if huge funds are allocated to the Caucasus, then at least they would be controlled. Huge unemployment in the region, jobs are not created. Why do not solve this problem. What kind of impotence in power, they cannot fight corruption, it is the same to control the targeted use of money, with crime, including ethnic crime. And God forbid crisis, what will they all do here? and so most are engaged in criminal activity. Trouble.
  34. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 8 October 2013 16: 33
    +2
    <<< The absolute majority of representatives of the titular peoples of the North Caucasian republics do not believe that the Russian people are in an oppressed position.
    "The titular North Caucasian peoples do not see anything reprehensible in the de facto exclusion of Russians from the republican administrative elites," the report says. >>>
    And how many Russians are left in these republics, if they are treated so well? Of course, who of the representatives of the titular peoples of the North Caucasian republics, especially from among those in power and those close to her, admit that the Russians are in an oppressed situation there, but at the same time they do not hesitate to openly declare that the Russians will NOT be allowed into power! Here is such equality in Caucasian women! And the federal authorities are quietly "swallowing" it! And this is the most IMPORTANT thing that underlies all conflicts, especially since the North Caucasians extend this "ideology" - the line of behavior to those Russian-speaking regions where they are actively migrating and where they (it is clear how) penetrate into power - the squeezing of Russians from local power structures and replacing them with their fellow tribesmen! Plus, the Russian-speaking population is being squeezed out! It's easy to imagine what will happen when there are more of them!
  35. Altona
    Altona 8 October 2013 18: 32
    +3
    I may not even want to separate the Caucasus, but I demand the observance of the rules of a socialist hostel ... If they dance Lezgins and build mosques in Russian cities, then let us dance a gypsy in villages and beat their faces at weddings ...
  36. VladHard
    10 October 2013 03: 10
    0
    Comrades! I didn’t just post this topic! All these statistics and polls are pulling pictures of the majority into our eyes! This is what really is not! I personally am not against dancing, not against the Caucasian peoples, on the contrary, I respect them, in Soviet times everyone respected them, they behaved with dignity and honor! And now, what are they doing ?! Totally confident in your impunity! Want to dance? so organize a festival, a concert and get crowds of enthusiastic audience, and performances at 2 a.m. in a residential quarter with firearms and screaming prior are not an indicator of a beautiful tone! All this speaks of some kind of big doom from above or what? Unrevealed cases of the murders of Russian students, about which it is hushed up, which, in other matters, have recently been decided by the Cossacks by lynching, I will not speak in which cities. After such actions, not respect shines for them, but another war! I would like to take up arms and cut all this oddity! The Russian people are kind and patient for a long time and for the time being, and then they will let everyone crap! Actually, it’s necessary to solve and educate something with this new Caucasian youth, so that our children do not see everything that happened in the 90s and could not be afraid to go to educational institutions, where now unfortunately there is a mess and provocative Caucasian youth!
  37. VladHard
    10 October 2013 03: 46
    0
    Quote: major071
    The article is nonsense. It is written clearly to order. They just want to convince us that everything is fine in Russia, all white and fluffy, and we have no interethnic problems. In any country they are, including ours. It’s just that they should not be hushed up while painting rainbow paintings, but eradicated.


    ..... Person! The article is not nonsense and is not written to order, but in order to emphasize a bunch of lies in the country and what are turning a blind eye! I am not a nationalist, but at such a pace I will become him! I’m not for separating it as an order, but for driving the Caucasians back to the Caucasus, they have their own land, although it was founded by the Russian empire, and we have our own, with borders we can possibly live in peace and harmony and bear that they want and under OWN windows they turn on music and scorch from Makar.
  38. VladHard
    10 October 2013 03: 49
    0
    Quote: Ruslan_F38
    To indicate whether or not to indicate your nationality in a passport is a purely personal matter, everyone must decide whether he needs it or not.


    This is not the essence of the article. You are right, let everyone decide for himself, we are all citizens of one big country and are free to decide. For me, in principle, it doesn’t matter whether my passport says Russian or not. Another thing is if a cult can be made of this, then yes.
  39. VladHard
    10 October 2013 03: 51
    0
    Here is another point!


    25.09.13/XNUMX/XNUMX: Migrants from the Caucasus commit more crimes than foreigners - FMS

    Migrants from the North Caucasus commit more crimes in Russian regions than citizens of foreign states, said Viktor Solodovnikov, head of the Federal Migration Service for the Rostov Region.

    “In Russia, less than 3% of crimes are committed by foreign citizens, but many people confuse the concepts of“ foreign citizen ”and“ internal migration ”. Those who come from the Caucasian republics, from the southern republics to central Russia, yes, they really commit a large number of offenses, including criminal offenses, ”said Solodovnikov.

    In addition, according to the representative of the department, the number of crimes committed by foreigners is greatly exaggerated.

    “The proportion of crimes committed by foreign migrants is very small, all of which, in our opinion, is inflated, and we conducted several analyzes, and, believe me, this proportion is insignificant,” RIA Novosti quoted Viktor Solodovnikov as saying.
    Read more: http://www.irn.ru/news/80208.html