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The AvtoVAZ director will deal with the missiles

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The AvtoVAZ director will deal with the missilesIn the coming days, the current director of the AvtoVAZ plant, Igor Komarov, will be appointed head of the United Rocket and Space Corporation (ORKK), and Deputy Defense Minister for Science Oleg Ostapenko will be appointed head of the Federal Space Agency (Roscosmos). The current head of Roscosmos, Vladimir Popovkin, will be dismissed, Kommersant reports.


Komarov and Ostapenko’s candidatures, according to newspaper sources, were agreed upon in the Russian government and presidential administration. "The main argument in favor of the appointment of Komarov was the fact that he managed to rectify the situation with AvtoVAZ. Having received the company in 2009 with a net loss of 49,2 billion rubles and debts to banks 38 billion rubles, he was able to optimize production," interlocutor edition.

As for the choice of Ostapenko, his current position also played an important role. "The scientific direction will prevail in the agency, since the customer represented by the Ministry of Defense will order products directly from ORKK," said the source of Kommersant, who added that the decree to remove Ostapenko from the post has already been signed.

It is reported that Popovkin’s resignation was largely predetermined by his disagreement with the reform dividing Roskosmos into an agency and an ORKK. Instead, he proposed creating a state-owned corporation like Rosatom. Popovkin stated that it is worth making blocks of shares of space industry enterprises in the authorized capital of Roskosmos and giving the department the right to directly manage the industry, but this idea has not been understood by federal officials.

About a possible change of the head of Roscosmos started talking two months ago. On August 1, at a government meeting, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin proposed that Deputy Minister of Industry and Trade Igor Karavaev be appointed to replace Popovkin.

At the same meeting, the Cabinet of Ministers, Popovkin, refused to take responsibility for the Proton-M launch vehicle crash that occurred on July 2, which was the reason for a tough conversation between him and the ministers. Following the meeting, the head of Roskosmos was reprimanded with the phrase “For violation of ethics and misunderstanding of responsibility for the industry”.
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  1. Boot under the carpet
    Boot under the carpet 7 October 2013 12: 13
    20
    What is this, a joke?
    1. experienced
      experienced 7 October 2013 12: 16
      23
      Bugaga, well, at least laugh at personnel changes ...
      "The main reason for the appointment of Komarov was the fact that he managed to rectify the situation with AvtoVAZ. Having received the enterprise in 2009 with a net loss of 49,2 billion rubles and debts to banks of 38 billion rubles, he was able to optimize production," - said the interlocutor of the publication.

      Another "effective manager" ... They will again rivet cheap rockets and sell them at a high price through intermediaries to the state, while simultaneously leasing space.
      The fact that AvtoVAZ was pouring budget money in considerable amounts into the crisis for some reason is not mentioned
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 7 October 2013 12: 20
        +6
        Quote: seasoned
        Bugaga, well, at least laugh at personnel changes ...

        Lesha, hello! Kalina's GDP has rolled, and now the whole country will be rolling with Roscosmos ..
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 7 October 2013 14: 38
          +3
          Well, how can you not begin to be disappointed in Putin?
      2. AVV
        AVV 7 October 2013 13: 34
        +4
        Is it possible to give such a serious industry to someone who hasn’t even been able to put cars on the stream ??? And hasn’t established normal work in the automotive industry? Absolutely collapsed from the oak! And it seems still far from April 1?
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 7 October 2013 14: 49
          -3
          Quote: AVV
          Is it possible to give such a serious industry to someone who hasn’t even been able to put cars on the stream ??? And hasn’t established normal work in the automotive industry?

          How did it fail? And who put the VAZ under the French?
          1. Lyokhin63
            Lyokhin63 7 October 2013 20: 48
            -1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            How did it fail? And who put the VAZ under the French?

            Damn a couple of months ago there was a rumor that our factory is being corporatized under the French. Thought - nonsense ...
            1. Lyokhin63
              Lyokhin63 12 October 2013 03: 23
              0
              Gee, I'm talking about our plant, not about VAZ, I wrote who did not understand, I work at the Samara state enterprise, but there was a rumor. It’s good that everything turns out if Komarov was pushed, Pah pah pah.
        2. vlrosch
          vlrosch 7 October 2013 20: 57
          0
          The main thing is personal devotion. Therefore, who has stepped out of the confidence of the president is resigned. And who managed to steal billions under house arrest with a trip to boutiques and restaurants.
      3. domokl
        domokl 7 October 2013 14: 29
        0
        Quote: seasoned
        Another "effective manager".

        Well, now our missiles will become like our passenger cars. I would like to wish the government to take the blinkers out of our eyes and look around. There are so many talented leaders in the field, and the radio walked on and on and around. You climbed into the cage and you will lead, no matter what than ... One word manager
      4. fzr1000
        fzr1000 7 October 2013 15: 39
        +1
        The largest Russian automaker for the first time since the crisis of 2009 suffered losses. The amount of losses amounted to 2,6 billion rubles, while the first six months of 2012 the company ended with a profit of 27 billion rubles. However, then this amount was not formed from the results of the main activities of the company, but due to the discounting of interest-free loans of the state corporation Rostekhnologii provided to AvtoVAZ during the crisis years.
        Bes comments.
      5. DmitriRazumov
        DmitriRazumov 7 October 2013 16: 27
        +1
        Popovkin was almost the only official with a basic specialized education (he graduated from the Mozhaysky Military Space Academy) and vast experience in service and work in the industry (he went from lieutenant to colonel general in the air forces, he commanded the northern training ground and the air forces at the end of his military career ) Therefore, he had his own professional opinion, kotr. I was not afraid, unlike other lizoblyudov, openly uphold, for which he paid. Insignificant bureaucrats like DAM do not tolerate this. It is enough to recall how he dealt with Luzhkov and other professionals. were no match for him.
      6. Rus2012
        Rus2012 7 October 2013 18: 16
        +2
        Quote: seasoned
        Another "effective manager" ...

        ... ohhhh ... BYAD Kol pies will begin to bake the shoemaker: (((
        Space is more than a business, it should be the work of a lifetime ...
        Here "control" will not work, life must be laid.
        Or at least be the Stalinist iron Commissar!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 October 2013 12: 20
      +9
      I haven’t read the article yet, but I read the title and almost collapsed from the chair wassat wassat wassat TAZ directors whose cars are falling apart in front of rocket managers laughing
      As I understand it, these are the SERIOUS measures that Rogozin promised us. I don’t already know whether to cry or to laugh fool
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 7 October 2013 12: 23
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        . I don’t know already toli, or laugh

        First Sasha, with a high degree of probability the first .. crying ..If the pies the cobbler begins to bake ... wassat
        1. wasjasibirjac
          wasjasibirjac 7 October 2013 13: 16
          +1
          unfortunately, most likely there will be a first
          Quote: Tersky
          . I don’t know already toli, or laugh
          And we will cry, and this gentleman will laugh. The quality of AvtoVAZ is a parable in languages, now they are switching to the assembly of imported cars - Renault, Nissan. can it use the same technology in rockets - buy a practically finished one and screw a fairing?
          1. Andrey KZ
            Andrey KZ 7 October 2013 16: 52
            +3
            Why are you doing that? ”Komarov raised AvtoVAZ to an unprecedented height, BMW and TOYOTA nervously smoke on the sidelines.
        2. IRBIS
          IRBIS 7 October 2013 15: 16
          +1
          Quote: Tersky
          .If the pies the cobbler begins to bake ..

          "-Well, deceased, are we going to fly?", The new head of the corporation turned cheerfully to all the cosmonauts ...
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 7 October 2013 12: 53
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        TAZ directors whose cars are falling apart in front of rocket managers


        By the way, Polyakov has the status of some kind of anti-crisis manager, and over the years he has shown himself to be quite an adequate figure. A sort of shit. Seen in space quite tight
      3. Wedmak
        Wedmak 7 October 2013 13: 52
        +1
        whose cars are falling apart before our eyes

        Where are they falling apart?
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 7 October 2013 14: 10
          +3
          Quote: Wedmak
          Where are they falling apart?


          Yes, please - on Grant there is no mechanism for adjusting the tension of the generator belt a kind of know-how - the result is a thousand kilometers and a joke.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 7 October 2013 14: 58
            +1
            Quote: Vadivak
            Yes, please - on Grant there is no mechanism for adjusting the tension of the generator belt a kind of know-how - the result is a thousand kilometers and a joke.

            It is foolish to demand German quality from an inexpensive car. VAZ never competed with MERCEDES, although they break. Less often, of course, but repairs are more expensive.
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 7 October 2013 15: 32
              +4
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              It is foolish to demand German quality from an inexpensive car.


              Yes, it’s not a matter of quality, the generator was tightly screwed onto the engine, its belt cannot be adjusted as before by tension. Design flaw or nonsense
            2. True
              True 7 October 2013 16: 41
              +4
              Inexpensive car? For the price of viburnum in Korea, you can buy a Solaris (there it is an accent) with a hatch and a rear view camera.
              Hyundai Solaris in Korea is manufactured under the Hyundai Accent brand. This is no secret to anyone. But did you know that this same Accent 2011 release there costs 17360000 million Korean won? In rubles at today's exchange rate it is 470500 rubles. And this is the top grade! With all the options, which by the way include a hatch and a radio with a large color display and navigation! Here is the prooflink http://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?b...ogNo=116009890 And here is the video on which you can watch this radio and sunroof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=- GLad ... eature = related In Russia, the top-end picking FAMILY costs 634000 rubles. It is more expensive than in Korea at 163500 rubles! Add to this somewhere else around 35000 for the radio with navigation and sunroof and the amount of difference will approach 200000! And this is almost the cost of customs duties for the import of the same Accent from Korea to the Russian Federation. Something I even bought it here somehow got sick even. What do you think about that?

              PS Oh, I completely forgot. The simplest equipment there costs 11330000 won, which is about 306000 rubles, we have 379000 and then with the postscript "from" The difference of 73000 rubles for this price category is also quite a lot.
              http://solaris-club.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1073
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 7 October 2013 17: 37
                +2
                Exactly - in Korea! And you still bring it here. By the way, I still do not understand why the sunroof, if there are windows ???? And I park somehow without a camera ... fine.
                And now, specific prices on my example:
                Solaris
                1,4l 107 HP 459.000 p.
                1,6l 123 HP 499.000 p. (this one is already air-conditioned)
                And this is not even the station wagon that I wanted.
                Kalina 2 Station wagon 1,6 l 8-cl., Manual transmission 379000 p. Norm.
                Kalina 2 Station wagon 1,6 l 16-cl., Automatic transmission 465600 p. Suite

                I want to note right away that the Solaris 1.4 is equipped with a lot of lotions, ala steering wheel heating, LED running lights, etc. This of course has a definite plus.
                And now consider insurance, the cost of maintenance, the cost of spare parts. A person with an average income didn’t have these heating and LED lights. He needs to transport himself to the cottage and potatoes from the cottage.
                Therefore, my opinion about Russian cars is workhorses. Hardy, cheap to operate, with reasonable comfort. All that is more expensive, foreign cars - this is more a matter of prestige and increased comfort.
                1. Lyokhin63
                  Lyokhin63 7 October 2013 21: 11
                  +2
                  Quote: Wedmak
                  Therefore, my opinion about Russian cars is workhorses. Hardy, cheap to operate, with reasonable comfort.

                  Three years ago they took a viburnum-universal luxury ... Faults - the envelope burned out and antifreeze leaked. All. By the way, yes, we don’t use heated seats at all, since in winter the interior warms up in minutes, I used the mirror adjustment once upon purchase. This is really superfluous. We never regret that we did not get into loans / debts and did not take the fusion as we originally wanted.
                  1. Beard
                    Beard 7 October 2013 22: 24
                    0
                    So what else do you say, once you live in Togliatti.
                    1. Wedmak
                      Wedmak 8 October 2013 14: 52
                      0
                      I will say the same thing, although I live in Astrakhan.
                2. Beard
                  Beard 7 October 2013 22: 22
                  +3
                  Gyyyy. what they say to you that Avtotaz Kalina should cost no more at home than Solaris on her own. and I consider the insurance on my lachek every year. and maintenance every 15 thousand and the cost of spare parts. Sudden discovery, if more expensive, then imperceptibly. Potatoes in the country can be carried on a wheelbarrow. Well, what is the net savings, no need to pay for insurance. And the parts are cheap. I have in operation two avtotaza-10ka and Prior. My opinion, a complete guano, to repair the cloud of money goes away. Spare parts - the antifreeze tank twice went to the store changed. When last year we decided to buy a new car with a chef butted for two weeks. Glass eyes - support the Russian auto industry, buy Cheviniva. The result of six months of operation-mileage of 15000, changed a bunch of spare parts (though for the time being under warranty), yesterday the semi-axis changed-fell apart. If autotaz is so good, explain why in my yard (a simple house of 1986 gp in an ordinary sleeping area) the number of basins is already close to zero. The only Tazikovskaya car worthy of attention is the Lada Largus.
                  1. Wedmak
                    Wedmak 8 October 2013 14: 56
                    +1
                    If autotaz is so good, explain why in my yard (a simple 1986 house in an ordinary sleeping room) the number of basins is already close to zero.

                    I dont know. In our streets, I see just the opposite. The number of Kalin and Largus (Prior is not enough) has increased, if not by an order of magnitude, then once in 5 for sure. True, Largus recently came out, but still this is the same VAZ.
                    1. Beard
                      Beard 9 October 2013 12: 01
                      0
                      I don’t know how you got there in Astrakhan, for the sake of interest, I counted in Samara, Togliatti and ours. AvtoVAZ - about 40%. The most traveling cars at autotaz are viburnum and largus. grant, prior - full guano. Again, the price of AvtoVAZ is overstated one and a half times.
                      In 2006, the question arose of choosing a car. Sold the twelfth. she was 5 years old, mileage 55 thousand. She began to rot and crumble little by little. During this time, I changed ball joints every 15 thousand, changed 2 support racks, repair brake drums, stoves, gasoline pump, 2 racks. the amount was up to 300 thousand rubles. there was a choice - 10-ka - 280 tr (+ signalization + rugs + music + covers + Tekstil without kondeya - somewhere else 18 thousand and comprehensive insurance - about 20 more), Lanos - 292 (with signalization, rugs, music and air conditioning + covers from 1500 rubles + Casco 22), the Chinese, Daewoo Nexia, were still Renault Logan, Kia Spectra but there for the same configuration the price went from 340 tr. Guess what the choice fell on? I traveled on Lanos for 4 years. Mileage 60 thousand km. I changed the bearing of the hub (700r + work about the ruble) and Glushak (the whole gut from autotasis - 2000 rubles + welder 500 r). Tech radiator, but I scored it. Consumption of antifreeze somewhere a liter of 15 thousand. So consider that cheaper. Now I ride a Lacetta sedan. Mileage is already 60 thousand km. From repair - changed the stabilizer bar (in principle, this is a consumable) 4 pcs and 2 bushings - according to materials somewhere 3000 rubles + work. That's all for now.
                      And for comfort - I went on all models of auto-base to Dalnyak and to Lanos and Lachetka. I have problems with my back torn off in my youth. Samara series - after 500 km there is no back or ass. Ten - no back from the waist to the crown. Lanos - no lower back. Lacetti - traveled to Moscow - 900 km, a day driving. My back didn’t feel the ride.
                      Threat. I’m just the same average driver who needs to take the poop to the cottage and take himself to work.
                3. grafrozow
                  grafrozow 7 October 2013 22: 51
                  0
                  Quote: Wedmak
                  A person with an average income didn’t have these heating and LED lights. He needs to transport himself to the cottage and potatoes from the cottage.
                  Therefore, my opinion about Russian cars is workhorses. Hardy, cheap to operate, with reasonable comfort. All that is more expensive, foreign cars - this is more a matter of prestige and increased comfort.
                  You forgot about the "people's" Zaporozhets. Only a foreign car is not prestige, you just feel like a man behind the wheel.
            3. v.lyamkin
              v.lyamkin 8 October 2013 05: 33
              0
              Well, yes, if such an option as the "alternator belt tension adjustment mechanism" is considered a sign of an expensive car, then I am embarrassed to ask: what else is not in the Grants package? Or is it better: what is in the Grant?
          2. Wedmak
            Wedmak 7 October 2013 16: 31
            +6
            Yes, please - on Grant there is no mechanism for adjusting the tension of the generator belt a kind of know-how - the result is a thousand kilometers and a joke.

            Come on??? 1000 km ??? Do not make people laugh. The first time I hear this. If the memory does not change, the generator belt is checked only at the 2 m. And this is 12000 km. It is hard to believe in your version.
            1. True
              True 7 October 2013 16: 53
              +1
              Of course, you are not confused by the fact that viburnum / grant is a modernized vase 2108, hairy, 1984th year.
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 7 October 2013 17: 21
                +5
                And the T-90 is the modernization of the T-72 ... the hairy 1972 of the year. What should be confusing? Quality? Increased. Price? The cheapest car on the market. Maintainability? Spare parts cost a penny, compared with foreign cars. Comfort? It is quite acceptable.
                If you want more, you need to pay more for it.
            2. rrrd
              rrrd 12 October 2013 06: 07
              0
              Wedmak

              normally besieged him +
      4. alone
        alone 7 October 2013 20: 32
        -1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        As I understand it, these are the SERIOUS measures that Rogozin promised us. I don’t already know whether to cry or to laugh


        when I wrote that Rogozin is a talker and out of place, they almost buried me with minuses. Well, Rogozins, continue to minus or turn on the mind? wassat
      5. Combitor
        Combitor 8 October 2013 05: 08
        0
        <Alexander Romanov (1) Yesterday, 12:20 ↑ Director of TAZ, whose cars are falling apart before our eyes as missile managers>
        The next step is to curtail the production of its own missiles and switch to assembling the French "Arean" (or "Ariane") at Russian enterprises.
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 7 October 2013 12: 26
      17
      Quote: Boot under the carpet
      What is this, a joke?


      This is a pattern. As furniturefuhrer Serdyukov, Minister of Defense. As Livanov, a minister without education, as Trudogolikova without a clue about medicine. In short, this is a diagnosis ...
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 7 October 2013 12: 31
        +6
        Quote: Vadivak
        This is a pattern.

        Pattern - the ability of the system to reproduce the same type of changes in different people. In this case, this is the ability of the system for reproducing people of the same type in different changes. And this is really a diagnosis, and the disease is incurable. Vadim hi !
        1. Garrin
          Garrin 7 October 2013 12: 33
          +5
          Quote: Tersky
          In this case, this is the ability of the system for reproducing people of the same type in different changes.

          Attack of the clones ... in kind !.
          1. Misantrop
            Misantrop 7 October 2013 12: 35
            +3
            Quote: Garrin
            Attack of the clones ... in kind !.
            Rather, an attack of the CLOWNS lol
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 7 October 2013 12: 49
              +4
              Quote: Misantrop
              Rather, an attack of the CLOWNS



              They wanted to start a criminal case against the director of AvtoVAZ, but it did not start

              - Police comments



          2. Tersky
            Tersky 7 October 2013 20: 28
            +2
            Quote: Garrin
            Attack of the clones ..

            Igor, hello! Painfully often we began to "clone", starting from Serdyuk and .... (the appointment of the director of the AvtoVAZ plant Igor Komarov, apparently not the last "feint" from the government of the Russian Federation.) To no limb. They love the rake in Russia, so to speak, a national instrument, and a patented one.
            1. Garrin
              Garrin 8 October 2013 10: 38
              0
              Quote: Tersky
              They love a rake in Russia, a national tool, so to speak, and a patented one.

              Hello Victor!
              The most interesting and unpleasant thing in this national game is that they (the ruling elite) step on the rake, and we get it head on. "There you go ... little kids."
      2. ultra
        ultra 8 October 2013 00: 01
        0
        Quote: Vadivak
        like Trudogolikov without a clue about medicine.

        This is without a clue, but her husband orbidol? laughing
    4. predator.3
      predator.3 7 October 2013 12: 39
      +1
      it is better to invite the director of "tayota", they have a better car! laughingbut seriously fool
    5. honest jew
      honest jew 7 October 2013 13: 13
      0
      What's so unusual? As you know, VAZ products are popularly called torpedoes (Lada). And from torpedoes to missiles one step !!!
      1. Lyokhin63
        Lyokhin63 8 October 2013 19: 43
        0
        Torpedo at one time the people called the dashboard in any car, as I recall. But you certainly know better.
    6. user
      user 7 October 2013 13: 40
      +2
      I remember as soon as they start filming a film or a program about someone, they will definitely use the phrase "a talented person is talented in everything," thereby wanting to show what kind of horizons a particular person has.
      Now we have reached the leaders, it seems that there is already negative experience in the same Ministry of Defense or Education or. . . (I wanted to list, but there isn’t enough space for listing).
      The main thing is that there should be one of ours, that it is not an ear or a snout, well this is the tenth matter.
      In short - the Clinic.
    7. Civil
      Civil 7 October 2013 13: 44
      +1
      This is the one that brought 20 vice presidents to VAZ right away, so that it would be more fun to fly to Moscow every weekend .....
    8. Col.
      Col. 7 October 2013 14: 18
      +6
      Quote: Boot under the carpet
      What is this, a joke?


      And our "reformers-modernizers" under the sensitive leadership of EBN and its protégé VVP have been joking like that for 20 years already. Are there many real professionals in the leadership of ministries, departments, large (including strategic) enterprises, etc.? Now about half of Russia's enterprises are owned by foreigners, the other half are owned by members of Putin and Co. Until this year, there were only two branches left where the "playful little hands of reformers" did not reach - Roscosmos and the Russian Academy of Sciences. And now it happened! Now, here, too, "effective managers" will rule, not those who SHOULD lead. And mediocrity, as you know, does not tolerate smart professionals in its environment, so you can be sure that the collapse of the Russian Academy of Sciences and Roscosmos is practically a foregone conclusion ... Our primates in power have forgotten common truths: "The trouble is, if a pastry starts to make boots, and a shoemaker starts to bake pies." And further: "To lead people, you need to know more than them!"
    9. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 7 October 2013 14: 41
      +1
      This is insanity.
    10. Alez
      Alez 7 October 2013 17: 44
      +1
      Now the missiles will be assembled as follows, hammer in screws, screw nails. A rocket will be popularly called a pipe with bolts.
      1. Ka-52
        Ka-52 7 October 2013 18: 17
        +1
        The AvtoVAZ director will deal with the missiles

        No words sad
        1. alone
          alone 7 October 2013 20: 34
          +1
          Quote: Ka-52
          No words


          what You’ll have to look for the right words. Moreover, it’s obscene so that the comments are not deleted.
      2. Lyokhin63
        Lyokhin63 7 October 2013 21: 33
        +1
        R-7 family missiles are the most reliable missiles in the world. Still. Despite the 90s and all sorts of changes in the leadership of Roskosmos.
      3. v.lyamkin
        v.lyamkin 8 October 2013 05: 40
        +1
        Well then, at least it really becomes clear why they are falling. And then the current explanations are somehow not impressive.
        1. Lyokhin63
          Lyokhin63 8 October 2013 20: 46
          0
          Quote: v.lyamkin
          Well then, at least it really becomes clear why they are falling. And then the current explanations are somehow not impressive.


          Rockets always fell. And they fall, and they will fall. Because it is a complex technical product, which, unlike other complex technical products, must work out PERFECTLY to fulfill its target functions. For me personally, it is not clear to me not the fall of missiles, but the reaction of the opshchestvo, which until about 09 was generally purple and before the RUSSIAN missiles, and before the fall of the RUSSIAN missiles. Somehow this observational enthusiasm coincided with the formation of the first private company "SPACE-X", which really claims to replace our "Soyuz". This is really incomprehensible to me. Explain to me good people, who are holy in politics, what it would mean.
    11. alone
      alone 7 October 2013 20: 29
      +1
      What is this, a joke?



      No, not a joke. It will be interesting to look at rockets similar to Lada Kalina, which will launch satellites into space laughing
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 7 October 2013 21: 28
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        it will be interesting to look at rockets similar to Lada Kalina, which will launch satellites into space laughing
  2. Ivan79
    Ivan79 7 October 2013 12: 15
    +5
    I don’t even know what to say here ... Such dual feelings ... Again, an effective manager?
    Well, if he had AvtoVAZ managed to pull out of the debt hole, maybe it will pull rockets out of the sea? smile
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 7 October 2013 12: 46
      +4
      Quote: Ivan79
      Again an effective manager?
  3. major071
    major071 7 October 2013 12: 16
    +6
    The next launcher will be loudly named LADA 210 .. (you can figure out the last two numbers yourself) and gather in Togliatti.
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 7 October 2013 18: 10
      0
      Lada "Gruz200" wassat
  4. zart_arn
    zart_arn 7 October 2013 12: 17
    +1
    The main thing is that the missiles do not turn into autoTAZs. And so, what can you say here, we'll see another "Effective" manager.
    1. alone
      alone 7 October 2013 20: 35
      -1
      in this situation, when the motorist begins to manage the production of rockets, you still have to rejoice that the rockets have turned into basins.
  5. avt
    avt 7 October 2013 12: 21
    10
    And immediately establish a recycling program and there will be no more accidents. Again, the names need to be corrected, well, at least double ones should be entered .Not, but Proton-Kalina, Soyuz-Priora, Progress-Niva will sound cool, for example ... And instead of military acceptance of priests there are more, well, as if in the previous news about the uninitiated Proton , without the knowledge of the priest, do not put it on the table. Here by itself, everything will work out.
  6. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 7 October 2013 12: 27
    +4
    Hmm, do they really believe that the field of mechanical engineering of the basins is identical to the rocket and space region .....
  7. vorobey
    vorobey 7 October 2013 12: 28
    +5
    Well, the whole banter was already removed from the language about viburnum and prior and other things, although the seven-seater shuttle Buranlargus would not look sour in the line. Interestingly and Renault Nissan will also enter Rosskosmos?
  8. Andrey57
    Andrey57 7 October 2013 12: 29
    +3
    So they got to the rockets, as they had previously reached the rest of industry, education and medicine. It’s a pity, however, the rocket industry, now the basins and in their orbits will hang like restless ones, if of course they will take off altogether. Well, a very wise appointment! fool
  9. iwind
    iwind 7 October 2013 12: 32
    +5
    Hmm ...
    And somehow they tactfully keep silent about the billions in subsidies to AvtoVAZ. And judging by the latest news, he did a little. And already this - "Renault-Nissan in the summer of 2014, the Franco-Japanese alliance will receive full control over AvtoVAZ", I would not call a GREAT achievement. And so already used quite a few parts and machine tools
    http://news.drom.ru/25243.html
  10. Russ69
    Russ69 7 October 2013 12: 33
    +5
    Actually, this position should be given to the production worker, but whatever one may say, the production worker is better than Popovkin. Let the designers go about their business, oh he is his own. To establish work between subcontractors,
    Also, the matter is not simple. In USC, nothing has been done so far.
    Let's wait and see that ahead of time to draw conclusions. You can laugh at VAZ, but whatever one may say, the enterprise lives on, makes a profit, thousands of people get paid.
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  12. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 7 October 2013 12: 34
    +3
    It is reported that Popovkin’s resignation was largely predetermined by his disagreement with the reform dividing Roskosmos into an agency and an ORKK. Instead, he proposed creating a state-owned corporation like Rosatom. Popovkin stated that it is worth making blocks of shares of space industry enterprises in the authorized capital of Roskosmos and giving the department the right to directly manage the industry, but this idea has not been understood by federal officials.

    Liberasts reached out to Roskosmoms, crushing to destroy him too.angry
    Well, AtoVAZ is a byword ... rockets do as you please ...
  13. Garrin
    Garrin 7 October 2013 12: 37
    +2
    In the coming days, the current director of AvtoVAZ plant Igor Komarov will be appointed the head of the United Rocket and Space Corporation (ORKK)

    It would be better if on Skolkovo or in Rusnano, they threw me into the depot to Chubys. There will be no worse.
  14. Nayhas
    Nayhas 7 October 2013 12: 52
    +2
    Well, they don’t let us die of boredom! With a smile on their faces, Russians are moving into the future!
  15. spirit
    spirit 7 October 2013 12: 53
    12
    Let's go!))) More precisely, we arrived)) Move boiled to Mars not fly laughing
  16. military
    military 7 October 2013 12: 55
    +2
    as if Mr. Popovkin did not surface somewhere in a completely unexpected hypostasis ... otherwise we will then recall his "space odyssey" with nostalgia and think how well everything could have turned out if Vova continued to sit in his Roscosmos ... repeat
  17. Humpty
    Humpty 7 October 2013 12: 55
    +7
    It looks like the agony of personnel policy.
    1. Metlik
      Metlik 7 October 2013 13: 39
      +2
      The personnel policy of the government is that if an active person gets into it, they quickly send him somewhere to the governors. As a result, passive blanks sit at the meeting and nod their heads bluntly.
      1. Ka-52
        Ka-52 7 October 2013 18: 21
        0
        As a deck do not shuffle, you still get ***

        bully (joke)
  18. Strashila
    Strashila 7 October 2013 13: 01
    +3
    Black humor ... more and more signs of the incompetence of the government. It is somehow difficult to comment on insanity ... how they can’t keep within their heads that an economist is not needed there, by the way who does not know what and how it works, a specialist is needed there ... who knew the essence of the matter ... knew how to read blueprints and technical maps ... and not an amateur on the division of finances. But in essence it’s clear ... to finish off the industry ... sell it to Chinese comrades ... capable of more.
  19. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 7 October 2013 13: 07
    10
    The first manned flight into space was accompanied by the word GO! And now we have come along. recourse
  20. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 7 October 2013 13: 18
    +5
    All this would be funny, if it weren’t so sad
  21. sven27
    sven27 7 October 2013 13: 20
    +3
    Now in rocket science we will again be collecting classics for thirty years)
  22. SolomonSS
    SolomonSS 7 October 2013 13: 31
    +3
    Now the rockets will need to be in place: tighten it up here, glue it here, and cosmonauts should buy mats in the AvtoVAZ store. The insanity of our government goes through the roof ...
  23. sven27
    sven27 7 October 2013 13: 34
    +1
    Apparently another "effective manager"
  24. atos_kin
    atos_kin 7 October 2013 13: 38
    +3
    Something all rushed to discuss AvtoVAZ products. And the fact that Popovkin must be driven from Roskosmos is silent. Judging by the overall results of AvtoVAZ, Komarov is not a bad option.
    1. Lyokhin63
      Lyokhin63 7 October 2013 21: 42
      +1
      As for Popovkin, I agree. Well, wait and see. But Komarov, unfortunately, is also not Korolev sad
  25. pinecone
    pinecone 7 October 2013 13: 44
    +4
    It's embarrassing to even read that. I’m ashamed of the country.
  26. Blad_21617
    Blad_21617 7 October 2013 13: 46
    +2
    goodbye space !!!
  27. pensioner
    pensioner 7 October 2013 13: 46
    +1
    And what is it with his handles in the picture? Accustomed to the hands of bills, this is understandable. But still, sometimes at least fingers need to be unbent, unbent ...
  28. Wedmak
    Wedmak 7 October 2013 13: 57
    +4
    What are you all sarcastic. Nothing that he is just a manager? Not a locksmith, not a collector ... Rzhote over AvtoVAZ, and he already began to deliver cars to Germany. And they take it, surprisingly. Maybe there Renault helped Nissan, but still - the fact is the fact.
    It’s better to buy a brand new Kalina for 350 than for the same number of 3-4 (or even 6-year-old) summer foreign cars. On the first one there is a guarantee, and the 3 year definitely passes without problems, on the second there is a great lottery, you know what the hell will break in it.
    1. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 8 October 2013 05: 44
      0
      Just with Germany, everything is clear: there are a lot of our former unemployed. You can’t save up with Mercedes unemployment benefits.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 8 October 2013 14: 59
        0
        And why should an unemployed car?
  29. Mails
    Mails 7 October 2013 14: 00
    -2
    The lineup:

    Rocket "PROTON-Grand"
    Equipment...

    Rocket "PROTON-Kalina 2"
    Equipment...

    Rocket "PROTON-Priora"
    Equipment...
    1. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 8 October 2013 05: 46
      -1
      And I would ask the package still to voice. At least basic, is it air-conditioned?
  30. military
    military 7 October 2013 14: 12
    -1
    ... the reason for a tough conversation between him and the ministers ... Following the meeting, the head of Roscosmos was reprimanded with the wording "For violation of ethics and lack of understanding of responsibility for the industry."

    it is necessary ... "ethics" ... but after all, Vova could easily charge some of his accomplices in the Cabinet of Ministers in his hearts and turnips ... right at the meeting ... on the basis of the recent cantusia, so to speak ... a decanter - not a bottle of champagne, but it will do too ... laughing
  31. Bezarius
    Bezarius 7 October 2013 14: 14
    0
    With AvtoVAZ, rockets will crawl at best ...
  32. Grbear
    Grbear 7 October 2013 14: 20
    +2
    Putting on the management of a state corporation a person who has experience in "assimilating" government subsidies and who handed over his enterprise to a "screwdriver" says a lot. I had a better opinion of Rogozin (and the personnel crisis is obvious, since they did not "find" a competent person in the space industry).

    The protons will certainly fly (the VP was returned, the "tails" were wound, etc.). But will there be ProtonsM +?
    1. Locksmith
      Locksmith 7 October 2013 15: 08
      +1
      Quote: GrBear
      who handed over his enterprise to the "screwdriver" - says a lot.

      Okay to invent something wink AvtoVAZ produces all its cars NOW in a full cycle, including the Renault ones, because now the Renault engines are put on the largui, so the engine plant in Tolyatti is being built NEW, that’s the way people shame everything without even reading. The quality certainly hasn’t risen to heaven -but it has risen and work continues on this topic. Our people are buying grants with an automatic machine, everyone is happy with the machine and finally they began to do facelift and design new grant platforms, the alliance appointed for sale in Europe, and it will go under the Nissan brand talking about something, we have the potential !!
  33. artemiy
    artemiy 7 October 2013 14: 26
    0
    Time will tell!
  34. erofich
    erofich 7 October 2013 14: 38
    0
    And not Lada 210, but they will most likely call the Satellite.
  35. Nitup
    Nitup 7 October 2013 14: 41
    +3
    1. The resignation of Popovkin, which is already good.
    2. The appointment of Komarov. The decision is doubtful. Well, we will judge by the results.
  36. andrei332809
    andrei332809 7 October 2013 14: 42
    -1
    my mother is a woman ... what is it going to be? autotases in space? Lord, make it so that today is the first of April belay
    1. alone
      alone 7 October 2013 20: 38
      0
      hit a motor rally off-road in space))
  37. Muadipus
    Muadipus 7 October 2013 14: 45
    +3
    In the coming days, the current director of AvtoVAZ plant Igor Komaro will be appointed head of the United Rocket and Space Corporation (ORKK)
    Then you can not read the article. Kirdyk rocket science.

    Medvedev: "Lada is a machine of our time ..."
    "Yes! This is x ... th time!" - Chavez thought to himself and smiled, nodding his affirmative head!
  38. Gato
    Gato 7 October 2013 14: 49
    +1
    In the coming days, the current director of the AvtoVAZ plant will be appointed the head of the United Rocket and Space Corporation (ORKK)

    It reminds me of something. Here in the Third Reich, the postal agency was engaged in nuclear research. With relevant results ...
  39. Double major
    Double major 7 October 2013 14: 55
    +3
    Well, that’s ... Khan of our missile industry ...
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  41. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 7 October 2013 15: 15
    -1
    We are waiting for the next
  42. waisson
    waisson 7 October 2013 15: 23
    +1
    the name of the rocket will be changed to viburnum and they will make a budget model working on water fool fool fool
  43. USNik
    USNik 7 October 2013 15: 27
    +1
    The AvtoVAZ director will deal with the missiles
    The news killed on the spot belay . We are waiting for Prior in orbit and a cornfield on Mars, tests in the pool simulating the state of zero gravity are already underway laughing
  44. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 7 October 2013 15: 34
    +3
    Damn PEOPLE EVEN I DO NOT WANT TO COMMENT A FULL JO *** PA !!!!!
    PS In our small peripheral town where everyone knows each other (in this, everyone knows each other's laughter) by the day of the city they hung portraits under the heading "people of the year" meaning our town. This is how the biggest villains, bribe-takers, or absolutely incompetent doctors weigh. So this is in a small town and such, but what is being done on a national scale.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 7 October 2013 16: 54
      +1
      Quote: kapitan281271
      and what is being done nationwide.

      Well, how can I tell you ... laughing
  45. Algor73
    Algor73 7 October 2013 15: 38
    +3
    How the military-industrial complex is developing with similar managers can be observed here, in Ukraine.
  46. HAM
    HAM 7 October 2013 15: 53
    +3
    As long as the cakes are stewing the boots, and the shoemaker bakes the cakes, the plumbers will fly like that ... in short, as the quartet doesn’t sit down, there won’t be any music.
  47. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 7 October 2013 16: 02
    +1
    On October 1, he drew an analogy between AvtoTaz and RosKosmos ... and oh my gosh - kind of got it ??? Or maybe it's such a way of grabbing the remnants of former glory into private, smelly little hands of high-ranking kleptocrats ??? You have to be a complete idiot to put this cunning manager on the sprawling rocket and space industry. SEEK THE NEW QUEEN SERGEY PAVLOVICH, and not the next high-ranking sharpler. fool
  48. Troy
    Troy 7 October 2013 16: 22
    +1
    This is complete ,,,,,! A furniture maker was appointed Minister of Defense - the result is known. But our government has a lesson
    didn’t go to mind. They all went crazy there, s_u_k_i fool
  49. WS
    WS 7 October 2013 16: 32
    0
    And Reus (general director of OJSC OPK Oboronprom) also managed a tractor plant in my opinion
  50. Savva30
    Savva30 7 October 2013 16: 48
    +1
    another effective manager ... they are destroying us