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L.Ivashov: “Oligarchs pushed Yeltsin to coup 1993,”

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Behind him stood greedy, cynical people, rushing to Russian wealth


October 1993, Moscow. Two decades have passed, and for historians this is, in general, no time limit, but whether this reservation only works in this case is a debatable question. The main conclusions each side of that two-day civil war for itself made.

“The consequences of the coup are horrendous. In essence, an economic and social policy was given that led to extraordinary consequences. A direct consequence of these events is the 1998 default of the year. The second consequence is the complete destruction of parliamentarism and the triumph of authoritarianism ... And the most important thing: for more than a decade Russia was a satellite, America's errand servant, ”Ruslan Khasbulatov, who headed the parliament at that time, gave this bloody event.

The authorities today do not like to remember this much, but the current “stability” regime is still a direct logical continuation of the Yeltsin era, and the notorious “vertical”, it turns out, was based on the blood of those who defended the White House in 1993 ( see Help KM.RU).


Film KM TV "1993-y: the year of bloody fracture"


Geopolitics, Leonid Ivashov, president of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, who held the post of lieutenant-general in 1993, shared his memories of the events of those days in an interview with the KM.RU observer.

- I myself was in the White House and saw everything that was happening there. And they dragged me for interrogation, and to the question “Why were you there?” I answered the investigator: “Are you a lawyer?” - “In general, yes, a lawyer”. - “So why you, the lawyer, did not go to protect the law ?! After all, the Decree number 1400 illegal. "

Of course, in October, 1993 was both possible and necessary to avoid bloodshed. And if the oligarchy, who was pushing Yeltsin to forcefully suppressing parliament, would not have already imagined in their dreams those untold riches that they could seize, then there could well have been some sort of agreement.

Yeltsin lived for power. And for the sake of its strengthening, for the sake of his statement in it, he went precisely to the use of force, a completely illegal version of the “pacification” of parliament. In fact, what he organized can be classified as a coup d'état. But still it would have been possible to avoid him, if such greedy, cynical people, rushing to huge sums of money, did not stand behind his back.

Yeltsin would also hardly have gone for the force option if Bill Clinton had not supported him. In the end, he could instruct the secret services to provoke any uprising, a riot among the deputies of the Supreme Soviet themselves. But in the end I decided the way I decided.

Mikhail Poltoranin, a former deputy prime minister in the government under Yeltsin, in his memoirs “Power in TNT equivalent” describes the essence of the Yeltsin and Clinton accords in the following way (the quote is not literal - KM.RU note):

“Boris Yeltsin: Bill, I want to disperse my conservative undemocratic parliament. Will you support me?
Bill Clinton: No, Boris, I cannot support it, because this step will not support our congress.
Yeltsin was offended by a colleague and was already looking for other workarounds as soon as Clinton called him:
BK: Boris, but if you had made any such step so that I could convince Congress of the need to support you, I would then be happy ...
BE: And what should I do?
B.K .: Well, if you gave the United States half of the weapons-grade uranium, you would have a chance to convince Congress.
BE: Yes, take it all! ”

That is, as we see, Yeltsin was ready to give to the Americans at least all of the uranium, even half of Russia, for the sake of one-man power that was not controlled by anyone. He enlisted the support of the West, which untied his hands and allowed him to act brazenly, cynically. And if the States did not support Yeltsin, but would act in accordance with the principles of their democracy, then Yeltsin would hardly have decided on this step.

- Why the army did not support the defenders of the White House?

- I am sure that, probably, 99%, if not all 100% of the officer corps, and the vast majority of sergeants were on the side of the White House. But the army lives on orders. But after all, pay attention to the difficulty with which the leadership of the Ministry of Defense was looking for crews ready to shoot at the White House! Grachev himself told about this how difficult it was to negotiate, how the soldiers had to be misled: they did not say that they were to shoot at people. They said: hit the guy, hit the target, check your accuracy.

This is more eloquent nowhere to say that the army did not support the shooting of the House of Soviets. They tried to persuade the military, promised them apartments, promotions. However, for example, the commander of the Kantemirov division refused to lead Tanks to the White House: brought them to the ring road and then did not lead. Finally, they found Mr. Evnevich, the commander of the Taman Division, who undeservedly got his post. They persuaded him, promised him the Star of the Hero - and he agreed.

- It is strange that Vladimir Putin has never commented on those events. Why do you think?

- The fact is that the shooting of the White House automatically made Yeltsin himself illegitimate, who overstepped the existing constitutional norms, ignored the laws that the Supreme Soviet adopted. Accordingly, the adopted or, rather, the new constitution imposed on the country has become illegitimate. Putin is Yeltsin’s successor, which means that he can always be reminded of this, pointing out that he, too, turns out to be an illegitimate president. After all, he was nominated by the illegitimate Yeltsin, elected and approved by the president according to the illegitimate Constitution. Therefore, Putin is wisely silent, because in this situation it is for him indeed the best option. He prefers not to draw attention to these events once again, and therefore to the legitimacy of his election for the first presidential term.
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  1. rrrd
    rrrd 5 October 2013 06: 41 New
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    B.K .: Well, if you gave the United States half of the weapons-grade uranium, you would have a chance to convince Congress.
    BE: Yes, take it all! ”


    ) laugh! MODE Sharks and governors!
    I still do not understand. why did Yeltsin bring Putin. where did he find him? a feeling that he was advised above by his people. lead hand gdp.
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 5 October 2013 07: 20 New
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      Read Korzhakov's "From Dusk Till Dawn" is very interesting.
      1. ded10041948
        ded10041948 5 October 2013 07: 31 New
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        Can you first see who Korzhakov is? And if you even think ... Then you do not need to read.
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 5 October 2013 07: 45 New
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          All Russian oligarchs got rich right under Yeltsin, that says a lot.
          1. michajlo
            michajlo 7 October 2013 00: 17 New
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            Good afternoon, Omar!

            Why are you all about Yeltsin, aligarchs and other evil spirits.

            Answer me please:
            - Where did the “head” begin to rot in the USSR and when: in 1985 both from Gorbachev, or from the 53-70s and from the top of the KGB?

            And about all these so-called. "Aligarhof" answer me and yourself:
            - where did they all get out of?
            - Why did people from the special services have influence, connections and incriminating evidence on another “exactly the same bastard”, only most of them wisely “did not shine” according to the old “KGB habit”?
            - why none of you, talented, zealous and decent beyond the cooperative or emergency, nothing could pass in principle ?, competitors, tax, or bandits clamped ?,
            - and someone in 25-30 years in a couple of months became “like a new owner” of many banks, steamboats and factories in exchange for “vouchers”, bankrupt enterprises, etc.?

            So when you provide me with an intelligible answer to these simple questions, then in my opinion it will be possible to discuss about greedy for power, fame, or just traitors to the Motherland, generals of the National Security Committee, GRU and workers of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Socialist Republic, SovMin, State Bank and other wreckers / reformers.

            Otherwise, in my opinion, we will argue about the consequences, having lost sight of the very "beginning of BETRAYING THE UNION" and the main directors and performers of the collapse of the USSR. And MSG, EBN and GDP are just pawns in the multi-way game of “big players” and thrown to the people like a dice to gnawing and worshiping a “blind guide”.
            Of all the leaders of the 90-2010 years, only Lukashenka is worth praise and admiration. I understand that he, too, is not perfect and somewhere "cut past or harder", but his results are IMPRESSIVE.
            Well, from these Guarantors, what remains? There is nothing to say about our Ukrainian Judas (Kravchuk, Kuchma. Yushchenko, Yanukovych), I can only be ashamed of them.

            In my opinion, it’s not worth exchanging for trifles and “false goals” thrown to us by the townsfolk and arguing about them.

            Proverb "Look at the root," doesn’t tell you anything?

            Regards, Michael
        2. SPACE
          SPACE 5 October 2013 08: 39 New
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          Quote: ded10041948
          And if you even think ... Then you do not need to read.

          And the truth is, why read at all when tilivizir is? laughing And what they just won’t think of ...
    2. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 5 October 2013 08: 00 New
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      ") laugh!" rrrd  Today, 06:41


      There is no laughing matter. In fact, with US support, Yeltsin carried out a coup d'etat, usurped power, destroying the popularly elected supreme legislative power of Russia.
      After the coup, he abolished the Constitution of the state and dragged through a falsified vote the new pro-American Constitution of Russia, through which he turned Russia into a colonial appendage of the United States and the West.
      Actually Today, Russia has an illegitimate Constitution, adopted under the usurped authoritarian rule of the criminal and conspirator Yeltsin and his pro-American team. What did these actions lead to in front of everyone.
      The question of replacing the current Constitution of Russia and Russia's return to the legal field of an independent sovereign state is a question of the existence and preservation of Russia itself.
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 6 October 2013 13: 18 New
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        Quote: vladimirZ
        dragged through a falsified vote the new pro-American Constitution of Russia, with the help of which he turned Russia into a colonial appendage of the USA and the West
        Is this referendum a falsified vote? Is this the current Constitution - pro-American?

        Vladimir - Can you explain what exactly is falsification, what is the pro-Americanism of the Constitution, and what is the mechanism for turning the Russian Federation into a colonial appendage through the Constitution?

        What did these actions lead to in front of everyone
        Personally, I have before my eyes the results of actions VIOLATING the current Constitution.

        The issue of replacing the current Constitution of Russia
        For what?
        We rewrite the article on the Central Bank do not care about the convertibility of the ruble?

        and the return of Russia to the legal field of an independent sovereign state
        RF is not in the legal field? Maybe the Russian Federation is not sovereign?
    3. karal
      karal 6 October 2013 13: 54 New
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      Only a person from law enforcement agencies could guarantee the personal safety of former President Yeltsin and his family. Putin was not spoiled by the authorities, so he became the most suitable candidate!
  2. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 5 October 2013 06: 43 New
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    What other oligarchs-at this time I remember actively all over the country all sorts of MMM and local bandits
    bottling.
    And the assault on the White House is a showdown of political crooks into which they dragged the ARMY and PEOPLE.
    I am always amazed at the arrogance of politicians for their tricks and people and service people are paying.
    Yeltsin, Khasbulatov, Rutskoi appeared in politics in the wake of Gorbachev's perestroika.
    As in all revolutions, the laws of their behavior are the same - if you look at the root of things (this is a thirst for power).
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 5 October 2013 06: 47 New
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      Balabolit and keeps his nose in the wind Ivashov. It has become too much lately. Direct forest gump of some kind, participated in all the significant events of the country sad
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 5 October 2013 10: 29 New
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        Quote: bomg.77
        Balabolit and keeps his nose in the wind Ivashov. It has become too much lately. Direct forest gump of some kind, participated in all the significant events of the country sad

        By the way, he did not resign in protest, but continued to serve and received another rank from the hands of Yeltsin's "regime". Curious ?
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 5 October 2013 10: 44 New
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          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: bomg.77
          Balabolit and keeps his nose in the wind Ivashov. It has become too much lately. Direct forest gump of some kind, participated in all the significant events of the country sad

          By the way, he did not resign in protest, but continued to serve and received another rank from the hands of Yeltsin's "regime". Curious ?
          Homeland, Homeland, and scheduled lunch
    2. Ustas
      Ustas 5 October 2013 08: 35 New
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      Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
      What other oligarchs-at this time I remember actively all over the country all sorts of MMM and local bandits

      Do you think that the oligarchs are not bandits?
      1. Lech from ZATULINKI
        Lech from ZATULINKI 5 October 2013 09: 20 New
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        The bandit from the oligarch differs only in the scale of his activity.
        The first works with the hands of the second head, respectively, and the profit is different.
        1. Ustas
          Ustas 7 October 2013 14: 35 New
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          Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
          The gangster differs from the oligarch only in the scale of his activity. The first works with the hands of a second head, respectively, and the profit is different.

          Nevertheless, the gangster remains a gangster, it doesn’t matter whether he gangs with his head or hands.
  3. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 5 October 2013 06: 53 New
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    The thing is that the losers did not have a strong, charismatic leader. This is not their misfortune, but all of us.
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 5 October 2013 06: 57 New
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      Quote: FC Skiff
      The thing is that the losers did not have a strong, charismatic leader. This is not their misfortune, but all of us.
      That's what you said for sure and they fought not for the country, but for Yeltsin to let them steer the "steal".
    2. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 5 October 2013 07: 17 New
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      Quote: FC Skif
      The thing is that the losers did not have a strong, charismatic leader.

      Tendency however request And if he is not there, what kind of bolt to talk about a change of power? If in 0 years the opposition has not been able to find a leader, then this is a diagnosis fool
    3. nazgul-ishe
      nazgul-ishe 5 October 2013 07: 21 New
      +3

      1 

      Colonel General Avatar
       FC Skif SU  Today, 06:53 AM


      The thing is that the losers did not have a strong, charismatic leader. This is not their misfortune, but all of us.


       "There are few real violent ones - there are no leaders.
  4. George
    George 5 October 2013 06: 56 New
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    Hello all.
    I remember watching the dock. a film where Eltsin tells how he sat down to play cards with thieves, and after losing everything he had, he agreed to play the last game for life, and won. And I thought, maybe it’s scratching, I blew it and I gave all my debts to life?
    That is, as we see, for the sake of the sole, uncontrolled power, Yeltsin was ready to give the Americans at least all the uranium, at least half of Russia. He enlisted the support of the West, which untied his hands and allowed him to act brazenly, cynically. And if the States did not support Yeltsin, but acted according to the principles of their democracy, then Yeltsin would hardly have decided on this step

    And you are oligarchs, oligarchs.
    1. FC SKIF
      FC SKIF 5 October 2013 11: 25 New
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      Because of this scum and the like, I turned out to be a foreigner in Ukraine, and then I changed my citizenship for a long and expensive time. .
    2. Papania
      Papania 6 October 2013 17: 19 New
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      "And if the States had not supported Yeltsin, but would have acted in accordance with the principles of their democracy" ...

      In my opinion this is the key, and the rest is EVERYTHING clear ...
  5. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 5 October 2013 06: 57 New
    +1
    The inability to negotiate between our politicians is generally a disease of our state.
    You always need a strong charismatic leader - who is encouraging for the weak in spirit, a reference will be given to the strong,
    gangsters soak in the toilet and then.
    1. bask
      bask 5 October 2013 07: 14 New
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      Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
      Inability to negotiate between our politicians

      Not, not the ability to negotiate Lech, but the dependence of our politicians on the West.
      L.Ivashov: “Oligarchs pushed Yeltsin to coup 1993,”

      And the oligarchs were pushed by imperialists from the USA and the world Zionist centers. (Members of the Bilderberg club).
      It was necessary to take control of the natural resources of Russia (which they did with success) and destroy the army and the military-industrial complex (inflicted severe damage).
      Until now we can’t recover. Only a few technologies have been destroyed, military research institutes, KG, military factories).
    2. Stalinets
      Stalinets 6 October 2013 05: 21 New
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      And you pay attention to the nationality of politicians and then you will understand everything. yes
  6. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 5 October 2013 06: 58 New
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    hi Ivashov ...., um ... I do not believe him, but EBN is a continuation of the policy of labeled, but am in a liberal upswing (burn them in the LARGE!).
    1. ded10041948
      ded10041948 5 October 2013 07: 29 New
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      Here is this snapshot, but a reminder to everyone. From one oak acorns. And where did the current come from? It seems that there were no coups.
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 6 October 2013 13: 37 New
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        Quote: ded10041948
        And where did the current come from? It seems that there were no coups.
    2. Sirocco
      Sirocco 5 October 2013 07: 41 New
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      Quote: Valery Neonov
      (burn them in the BELL!).
      Greetings to all, There is such an expression, cause and effect, and so 1993 is already a consequence of the systemic destruction of the country, and as always there were many who wanted to fish in the muddy water. But, I have long been tormented by such a question - the REASON (the fact that Gorbachev is a protege of Andropov is not a secret) So, how could such a Shark in the KGB as Andropov, blink, or let this Juda - Gorby come to him? Was the KGB really sleeping in those years? What happened? once this one came "reformer - terminator" to power??????
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 6 October 2013 13: 42 New
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        Quote: Sirocco
        But, I have been tormented by such a question for a long time - REASON (The fact that Gorbachev is Andropov’s protege is not a secret) So, how could such a Shark in the KGB like Andropov blunder, or let this Judas-Gorby come to him? Did the KGB subside in those years? What happened

        I think you guessed there is no other explanation for what happened. hi
      2. michajlo
        michajlo 7 October 2013 00: 34 New
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        Good evening Vladimir!

        You see, how, after you asked a simple question, you yourself without any prompts get an answer to the question, where did the Union “start to rot fish” from?

        According to my data and the conclusions of others, long before me, our socialism, power and lack of control over Western financial tycoons - ceased to arrange the top of the KGB and even from the 70s ...
        Such an interesting pre-story turns out.

        So MSG. EBN. GDP and others are just “dolls” in the “theater for the naive and gullible,” played out on the notes of the KGB, GRU, together with partners of their Western intelligence services (CIA, NSA, MI6, German and Israeli) ... am

        You should not take my word for it, you just have to think, reflect and the answers, "very unpleasant and dirty," you will receive yourself.

        Sincerely, Mikhailo. hi
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 7 October 2013 00: 39 New
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          Quote: michajlo
          According to my data and the conclusions of others, long before me, our socialism, power and lack of control over Western financial tycoons - ceased to arrange the top of the KGB and even from the 70s ...
          Such an interesting pre-story turns out.

          So MSG. EBN. GDP and others are just “dolls” in the “theater for the naive and gullible,” played out on the notes of the KGB, GRU, together with partners of their Western intelligence services (CIA, NSA, MI6, German and Israeli) ... Are you serious?
          1. michajlo
            michajlo 7 October 2013 11: 00 New
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            Quote: alex 241 Today 00:39 _131007 / pon
            Quote: michajlo
            ... that MSH. EBN. GDP and others are just “dolls” in the “theater for the naive and gullible,” played out on the notes of the KGB, GRU, together with partners of their Western intelligence services (CIA, NSA, MI6, German and Israeli) ... Are you serious?

            Good morning, dear Alexander!

            Alas, this is serious. It’s very strange to me personally that for all the time that has passed sinceop 70-80s, i.e. For 30-40 years, the townsfolk still believe in fairy tales "about the evil knight Ilya Muromets_MSG", which is "playfully" for 4 years, the community of internal affairs agencies / 1985-1989 collapsed; and for 6 years, our Union / 1985-1991 !?

            Think for yourself how one scoundrel, albeit with a pack of “Gorbi & Co.”, is without leadership, execution and GUARDING of the top of the KGB, was able to do this?
            And now, 20-30 years after all “these heroic deeds”, the same “moral hero of MSG” participates in advertising “condoms”, steals vintage wine in a supermarket (2013b / Germany), etc.
            Such things, for example, would the “three times Hero of the Union” begin to do, even if he died of hunger?

            Here's a look at another comparison.

            Once upon a time there were Maghreb / ​​Sev.Africa countries, but suddenly in 2011 an infection started under the name “Arab Spring”, in which Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt “turned out”, only in Syria there was a hitch so far and the third year Syria hasn’t broken.

            Only 2 years passed and all thinkers agreed that there was no “Arab spring”, but there was an act of organized coups, intervention and even a DIRECT ATTACK of NATO forces (Libya) with the money of the UAE, Qatar by order of Israel and the attraction of US and French special services ( Libya).

            Remember how in 1989 in just 7 months. the regimes of "socialist power" in all socialist countries were defeated in order to end in East Germany for the 8th month by the coup and destruction of the Berlin Wall.
            Moreover, in all countries, with all, as it were, “random manifestations of the people's will for revolution,” everywhere were READY the television headquarterss (having permission to shoot from the existing government, which just went to overthrow)broadcasting without denominations and reviews for the whole world, the ongoing processes of “popular will”!?

            And what is characteristic, despite all the anti-communist words, slogans, calls anywhere except Romania (Ceausescu and his wife were hanged there, probably didn’t agree to “theatrical resignation”), none of the TOPs of the Communist Parties, and most importantly the SPECIAL SERVICES, were injured.

            All of them are in power (political elite), reformers / Guarantors, and former generals of the former special services on "gospensii" in the shade, from where they manage the new financial empires in the expanses of the post-OVD and post-USSR through various young nephews, sons, and other reliable and persons bound by bail. ”

            Would this be possible with a spontaneous and meaningful rebellion of the people against "Communist scum elite"?

            Well, enough for a start, so that later you will not start vomiting when you digest these two paragraphs ?!

            Continuation # 2 >>>
            1. michajlo
              michajlo 7 October 2013 11: 14 New
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              Continuation No.2

              And the materials and facts on organizing and carrying out the "Velvet Revolution" in Czechoslovakia on November 17, 1989, I have already translated something (I am finishing the rest) from Czech and Slovak into Russian, now my friends and acquaintances are doing proofs.
              Here on the VO website, I received an answer that in my translation from Slovak (12 p. In Russian) there are a lot of mistakes, etc., so I won’t bother administrators anymore.
              And here I will give links to Wikipedia / rus, where I will expose them as a translator.

              If you want, I will send them to you in Email, send me your Email in PS.
              Since this is not my personal opinion, which does not have to be infallible, but the words, thoughts and conclusions of other people whom I think are smart and insightful, and most importantly decent, since they did not expect and did not receive any benefits from these publications.
              For example, the already deceased Miroslav Doleici from Prague was spat on and muddy for his publications and analyzes. But for some reason, none of them named “heroes of betrayal of socialism in the CSFR” filed a lawsuit against him?

              And the same late president of the Czechoslovak Republic, Vaclav Havel, a former ShtB agent, a drunkard and a womanizer, helped to ruin Czechoslovakia, plunder it and destroy it.

              But why the president didn’t get the courage to sue the former political prisoner Come on ?!

              How do you like this fact that the president is afraid to sue an old man who has lost his health in uranium mines and prisons?

              Or is the TRUTH stronger than presidents and death?

              And this Czechoslovakia until 1989 was an industry and defense industry, the 9th country in the world! And now it is the colony of the West / Germany (Czech Republic = 10 million, Slovakia = 5 million inhabitants).
  7. andrei332809
    andrei332809 5 October 2013 07: 07 New
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    that there are grabbers, that there. as they say, dick to dick change, time to lose
  8. Strashila
    Strashila 5 October 2013 07: 11 New
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    They couldn’t push, they didn’t have that strength ... that’s the advisers recruited by the Americans, but accomplices to the destruction of the economy ... those yes ... with both hands and feet were for it.
    1. Delink
      Delink 5 October 2013 07: 22 New
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      They had only seductive offers that were impossible to refuse.
  9. Grbear
    Grbear 5 October 2013 07: 51 New
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    This coup is such a muddy story that we learn about undercurrents from western sources. And then, only because there they tried to launder the money stolen from us. Many of the participants in those events are still alive, but they will be silent, or "keep their nose to the wind." But the fact is that the enemies used objective circumstances, the venality of the leaders and the "universal" stupidity of EBN to the fullest.

    The question is, where did the GDP come from? will remain in the shadows for a long time. This is the KGB. They know how to keep secrets.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 6 October 2013 13: 45 New
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      Quote: GrBear
      The question is, where did the GDP come from? will remain in the shade for a long time
      1. Stalinets
        Stalinets 6 October 2013 23: 12 New
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        It’s not the main thing from where it came up. They all pop up. What is important is something else, does or does not do good for Russia. This is an indicator. yes
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 7 October 2013 10: 47 New
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          Not important, but important.

          And useful ... Violation of the Constitution - is it useful? smile
  10. Orik
    Orik 5 October 2013 08: 20 New
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    Everything is clear with the Eltsin, exorbitant ambitions, a team hungry for power, service of the Western elites, he had everything for this event, whom he did not have bought or deceived. Let's look on the other hand, what is there? And there ... it’s still not clear what country they were planning to build, how to live (I hope no one wanted to live under Khazbulatov), ​​in a word, the swamp and decisions were such, Eltsin won by a clear advantage. BUT, Skiff correctly said, when there is no leader, this is a problem for all of us.
  11. maestro123
    maestro123 5 October 2013 09: 36 New
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    Quote: rrrd
    I still do not understand. why did Yeltsin bring Putin. where did he find him?

    In the photo, the redhead on the left waves his hand. wink
    1. alone
      alone 5 October 2013 20: 53 New
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      one on the right, the other on the left. Now it’s clear why Chubais is still busy. So don’t bother with hopes that the GDP will disperse the liberals. He himself is the same. He just disguised himself. The KGB school wassat
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 6 October 2013 13: 47 New
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        Quote: lonely
        just camouflaged.
  12. individual
    individual 5 October 2013 10: 39 New
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    On Thursday in the program "Russia" I watched the "duel" of Solovyov.
    So behind the podium of those who "shot" in parliament, Soloviev gathered those for whom Kolyma was crying along with the presenter. Were it not for the shooting of the White House by tanks, the hands of the war in the Chechen Republic would not have been untied. Dudayev would be offered a position in the federal government and the entire confrontation would end. There had already been some progress in this direction, but it was already in Yeltsin's alcoholic blood that tanks were cutting on the living. The first fraudulent voting was started by those who organized "YES, YES, NO, YES" and who defend the crooked truth of the "crooked mirror" of Yeltsinist apologists.
  13. Stalinets
    Stalinets 6 October 2013 05: 23 New
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    The "oligarchs" appeared with this goat. Before that, this word rested in a history textbook. yes
  14. Neighbor
    Neighbor 6 October 2013 11: 20 New
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    Eltsin was still no one in a rather gray crowd of party functionaries, code about him went to incomprehensible jokes like; The machine gunners run into the Supreme Soviet, yell, Yeltsin ducked down and shot the others .... Stupidly, but someone was PR on black then. Not the KGB.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 6 October 2013 13: 49 New
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      Quote: Neighbor
      Not the KGB.

      The KGB must have led any potential leader ...
  15. Captain45
    Captain45 6 October 2013 13: 53 New
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    Quote: Sirocco
    But, I have long been tormented by such a question - the REASON (the fact that Gorbachev is a protege of Andropov is not a secret) So, how could such a Shark in the KGB as Andropov, blink, or let this Juda - Gorby come to him? Was the KGB really sleeping in those years? What happened? once this "reformer - terminator" came to power ??????

    On this topic on the site "Special Forces of Russia" since February 2013 there is a series of publications by Vl.Shved under the general title "GORBACHEV - AN EPOCHAL WILDHOOD. MATERIALS FOR A FUTURE COURT ON THE FACT OF STATE Treason", very interesting, I recommend.
  16. karal
    karal 6 October 2013 13: 55 New
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    Yeltsin and his entire gang must be held accountable, even posthumously!
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 6 October 2013 14: 43 New
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      Quote: karal
      Yeltsin and his entire gang must be held accountable, even posthumously!
  17. Papania
    Papania 6 October 2013 17: 15 New
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    As I understand it, the article bleaching Borka-drunk ...
  18. michajlo
    michajlo 7 October 2013 00: 44 New
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    Quote: Papania today 22:41 PM _131006 / wk
    As I understand it, the article bleaching Borka-drunk ...

    Good afternoon, dear!

    Yes, you are not mistaken! And after that I sang along with the praising Kremlin helmsmen, I can’t name it otherwise than the "crowd blinded by the clinking of coins" stupidly following the "blind guide."

    Alas, I cannot get a different conclusion.