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Launching of the assault boat "Ivan Kartsov"

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Launching of the assault boat "Ivan Kartsov"

On the evening of September 30, 2013, Vostochnaya Verf OJSC in Vladivostok launched the water from the floating dock of a high-speed landing boat in the air cavity "Ivan Kartsov" (serial number 4001) - the lead boat of the project 21820 being built at this enterprise (code "Dugong") . This is the first boat of this type designed for the Pacific fleet Russian Navy. The boat was built at the enterprise since 2010 and was removed from the workshop to a floating dock on September 28, 2013. The delivery of "Ivan Kartsov" is planned by the end of the year.


The lead landing craft of the 21820 project (cipher "Dugong") developed by the Nizhniy Novgorod Open Society "Central Design Bureau for the SEC named after RE Alekseyev" was built at OJSC "Shipbuilding Plant" Volga "in Nizhny Novgorod (serial number 811) and transferred to the Russian Navy in 2010 year joining the Caspian Flotilla as D-105 (in June 2010 of the year was named Ataman Platov). Three more boats of this project under the name Denis Davydov (serial number 701), Lieutenant Rimsky-Korsakov (serial number 702 ) and “Michman Lermontov” (703 serial number) are built under a contract with the Ministry of Russian ones, dated June 2011 year at OAO "Yaroslavl shipyard." The first boat "Denis Davydov" was launched in Yaroslavl, July 26 2013 years.

As reported on the web site, forums.airbase.ru, in addition to launching its head assault boat of the 21820 project, Vostochnaya Verf, also 26, September 2013 of the year was handed over by the Russian-built 21980 anti-diversion boat Rook (8002 number) ), and shortly before that, the floating dock of the 2010 project built for the Navy under the contract from 17789 was commissioned.
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  1. honest jew
    honest jew 3 October 2013 12: 38 New
    -23
    Good news !!!! Advocates awake !!! hi
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 3 October 2013 12: 41 New
      16
      It seems to me that they are very long being built .. the same boats, and what are the terms then for large ships will be ?!
      1. smiths xnumx
        smiths xnumx 3 October 2013 13: 38 New
        +5
        And why whine about the timing of the construction of ships. Then (in the early 2000s), when they were laid down, there was complete devastation, the legacy of the BNU, then yes. Theft flourished, the prevalence of corruption, the rule of the oligarchy. Not that now, right now they got up from their knees.
        So we will look at how much they will build a second ship, second, third and fourth frigates of project 22350. Then we can start))
        1. Ramadan
          Ramadan 3 October 2013 22: 10 New
          +2
          Maybe it’s time to stop nodding at the difficult legacy and get down to business "rolling up your sleeves"? And the dominance of corruption has not gone away!
          3 years for the construction of the boat is a lot. If there was no funding, then this is one question, if the fault of the plant, then this is another question that needs to be addressed.
          Now it is not in vain that everyone raises the question of increasing production efficiency ....
        2. old man54
          old man54 3 October 2013 23: 08 New
          -1
          Quote: smiths xnumx
          Theft flourished, the prevalence of corruption, the rule of the oligarchy.

          and now, of course, there is complete order on these issues in the State University, right? wink bully
          Quote: smiths xnumx
          Not that now, right now they got up from their knees.

          Yeah, they got up, it just seems to have gotten up with cancer, and right from their knees !!! lol
      2. andrey903
        andrey903 3 October 2013 18: 01 New
        +2
        Each boat is given a name
    2. Manager
      Manager 3 October 2013 12: 47 New
      +6
      Quote: honest Jew
      Good news !!!! Advocates awake !!!

      Well, get away from one such boat straight ...
    3. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 3 October 2013 12: 49 New
      15
      Quote: honest Jew
      Good news !!!! Advocates awake !!!

      Rough trolling.
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  3. honest jew
    honest jew 3 October 2013 12: 40 New
    +5
    Soon and Mistral Descent !!!
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 3 October 2013 14: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: honest Jew
      Soon and Mistral Descent !!!


      The construction time of Mistral is 36 months, just like this boat, with the only difference being that the boat was built not in France but at Vostochnaya Verf OJSC.
  4. Canep
    Canep 3 October 2013 12: 41 New
    -7
    And what is quality ?, the photo shows how metal warped at the welds. So the seams become visible after several years of operation.
    1. TRex
      TRex 3 October 2013 13: 23 New
      14
      Well, you have eyesight! Congratulations! I envy! How many pixels?
      1. Canep
        Canep 3 October 2013 14: 20 New
        0
        Actually, this is visible to the unarmed views on the photographs from the article, in the bow of the ship and on the superstructure.
    2. Coward
      Coward 3 October 2013 14: 50 New
      +5
      Violation of welding technology. Most likely they cooked single-pass and unidirectional seams. Now many young welders do not even have a clue about: reverse-printing welding, multidirectional (counter) seams, annealing rollers, tapping the weld after each pass. It also seems that funds were not allocated, or simply mastered, for straightening welding deformations and annealing thermal zones in the weld areas of the kit.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 3 October 2013 17: 18 New
        +2
        Quote: Coward
        . Now many young welders do not even have a clue about: reverse-printing welding, multidirectional (counter) seams, annealing rollers, tapping the weld after each pass.

        When they begin to replace welders with such robots, perhaps we’ll move forward.
        1. Coward
          Coward 3 October 2013 18: 15 New
          +2
          Robots cannot completely replace welders. They are good at welding butt welds. Welding the kit to the casing, especially in the double bottom and double-hull spaces, is the destiny of a person. The greatest welding deformation gives just a set.
          By the way, in my opinion, when welding butt rectilinear seams, it is better to use friction stir welding, rather than electric arc welding. This is to what to change the welders. hi
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 3 October 2013 21: 55 New
            0
            Quote: Coward
            This is to what to change the welders.

            This is not to push all welders into a corner, but to the fact that modern technology in a shipyard involves a large-knot assembly. Such a robot will pass a 5 meter seam in 10 minutes with the highest quality of welding, given that a highly qualified welder can average 200 meters on average shift, then you begin to understand why the supertanker at Daewoo shipyards is being built a year.
            And our landing boats are brewing in the old fashioned way ......... it's time to get down to business, and not to write on every vessel "has no analogues in the world"
            1. jjj
              jjj 4 October 2013 03: 17 New
              0
              Yes, we know how it is cooked without oxygen, and how to cook titanium. Technology has been around for decades. In Russia
  5. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 3 October 2013 12: 47 New
    +3
    Considered the acquisition of the Mistral.
    Dugongs and Chamois. It seems that even in this version a little more of the landed equipment and drugs in one wave comes out. But there all the problems with durability were a kind of crude project. At high speeds and excitement, the hull in the stern began to crack. Therefore, for so long.
  6. honest jew
    honest jew 3 October 2013 13: 00 New
    -16
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Rough trolling.



    - Intelligence test.
    Laugh after the word "shovel."
    Shovel.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 3 October 2013 13: 26 New
      12
      Quote: honest Jew
      - Intelligence test.
      Laugh after the word "shovel."
      Shovel.

      My brain is unable to find the deepest meaning in your set of words. Is the test failed?
    2. DJEIN8
      DJEIN8 3 October 2013 13: 56 New
      +4
      honest Jew 13:00 Normal Jews for such a MORAL freak should be
      I am ashamed ....... and whether a Jew ..... After your ... with you to conduct a test and not
      it is necessary ........ so everything is clear ........
    3. Genry
      Genry 3 October 2013 14: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: honest Jew
      - Intelligence test.
      Laugh after the word "shovel."
      Shovel.

      You Pahzoite the nation of Europe !!!
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    1. Apollo
      Apollo 3 October 2013 13: 14 New
      +4
      quote-The lead landing boat of the 21820 project (code “Dugong”) developed by the Nizhny Novgorod OJSC Central Design Bureau for SPK named after R.E. Alekseev was built at OJSC Volga Shipbuilding Plant in Nizhny Novgorod (serial number 811) and transferred to the Russian Navy in 2010 year,



  8. MAN
    MAN 3 October 2013 13: 15 New
    +3
    In my opinion, this is great news! More to such news! good
  9. dimon-media
    dimon-media 3 October 2013 13: 36 New
    +4
    I will not argue, our fleet needs both small and large ships. Some went wrong - they need big, you need big ships! We need ships of generally all classes. And we build as we can. The main thing is that we are building in general. And our fleet, compared with some, is not so old. (for example, Japan: they have an average age of 30-40 years for ships). This does not mean that you need to equal them. It will be more correct for us to constantly develop shipbuilding and not stop there and hope for a miracle. A Russian fleet, be! drinks
    1. VAF
      VAF 3 October 2013 18: 05 New
      +7
      Quote: dimon-media
      This does not mean that you need to equal them


      Yah belay ? And who then .. wink on the great tandem? wassat
      And wait for another miracle? wassat - Here comes the master and ... master will judge us? lol

      And so ... just read about ... their fleet wink and "their pace" recourse

      On September 28, 2013, the Huangpu Shipyard in Guangzhou launched 576 Huangshi, the 18th Type 054A frigate.



      On October 1, 2013, the 19th Type 054A class frigate was launched at the Hudong shipyard in Guangzhou.



      Conclusion: .... no comments belay recourse
      1. Ka-52
        Ka-52 3 October 2013 18: 31 New
        +4
        YES, and this is at normal prices. Unlike us. We do it at 1%, take 99%, and yell at 200% am
        where are the business executives, you must have a conscience! stop
        1. cyberspace
          cyberspace 3 October 2013 20: 12 New
          +2
          Quote: Ka-52
          where are the business executives

          At enterprises, it is not business executives who rule, but “bukhgakters” -economists, for whom the main thing is not production indicators, but financial ones. Almost everywhere, the staff of accountants and economists seems to be inflated further, and technicians are being reduced. And until the bookkeepers are explained that their business is to count rather than lead, the business will be done extremely slowly.
      2. marat1000
        marat1000 3 October 2013 18: 56 New
        +2
        Not theirs, but theirs. Theirs)) There is no such word (this is in the common people drunks say so)
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 3 October 2013 19: 01 New
          +1
          "Theirs" is found in Bulgakov, and Zoshchenko, and Gorky, and Bunin, and Prishvin, and Shklovsky, and L. Andreev, and Chukovsky, and L. Tolstoy, Chekhov, Dostoevsky, Turgenev, Leskov, not to mention our contemporaries. After this, to say that “the word does not exist” can only be a very ... peculiarly stubborn and blinded person.
          1. POBEDA
            POBEDA 4 October 2013 00: 29 New
            0
            Properly speak and write "them." "Theirs" is very colloquially colloquial. And the point.
        2. jjj
          jjj 4 October 2013 03: 21 New
          0
          Do you know about the ranks of Casseriou?
      3. alone
        alone 3 October 2013 20: 11 New
        +1
        Quote: vaf
        Conclusion: .... no comments


        why no comment? laughing have a comment)

        the state and the people responsible to the state work. and work diligently and with a clear conscience.
    2. Srgsoap
      Srgsoap 4 October 2013 02: 01 New
      0
      Well, it’s not so old, but in number:
      4 diesel-electric submarine Harusio, construction 1991-1995
      11 diesel-electric submarines of the Oyashio type, construction 1998-2008
      3 diesel-electric submarines “Soryu” - 2009-2011
      URO destroyers:
      2 type "Hatakadze" mid 80s
      2 “Atago”, 4 “Congo” (similar to the American EM URO of the Orly Burke project) 1993-1998
      32 destroyers of four types 1987-2006
      more detailed information here http://www.modernarmy.ru/article/138
      Alas, we have so far nothing to oppose, and there is still China.
  10. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 3 October 2013 13: 38 New
    11
    You can joke about the news as much as you want, BUT the fact - ships are still being built in Vladivostok. Let so far and such.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 3 October 2013 15: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Kibalchish
      Let so far and such.

      The main point is the production is saved.
      1. alone
        alone 3 October 2013 20: 14 New
        +1
        Yes, it is certain. +
  11. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 3 October 2013 13: 42 New
    +1
    By the end of the year there will be more good news about the Navy. November will be especially eventful.
  12. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 3 October 2013 13: 47 New
    +2
    The Japanese were probably outraged by "indignation and deepest sorrow" ... laughing
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 3 October 2013 14: 41 New
      +5
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      The Japanese must be outraged

      These are Japanese, they can only cross over. laughing
  13. sven27
    sven27 3 October 2013 13: 54 New
    +4
    Build a boat 3 years ??? Something needs to be changed in our USC!
  14. 17085
    17085 3 October 2013 13: 56 New
    +3
    After the first article on the subject of this Dugong rummaged on the Internet, asked colleagues. I understood one thing, to hell with it with quality, the need for these boats, both for the Navy and civilians, is just what.
    One of my classmates in Vladik worked at this eastern shipyard in Ulysses and visited the Yaroslavl shipyard as an exchange of experience, I did not communicate with him, but the guys say that he clutched his head at how they were building there. At Denis Davydov, some nodes were redone several times in order to pass the acceptance, and this is only in the case. But in the end, they took it with a score of 3--. Almost immediately after launching, Putin spoke at some meeting on the low quality of equipment being handed over to the army and navy. I think Deniskin's mite was present in this. But there is a word - it is NECESSARY. I immediately remember with what rush raw tanks were taken before the war ("Stalin's Armor Shield" M. Svirin). It’s necessary, build, more, and there you look - it’s better.
  15. darksoul
    darksoul 3 October 2013 14: 01 New
    +1
    Three years boat ... no words ....
  16. Ram chandra
    Ram chandra 3 October 2013 14: 07 New
    +6
    Here you guys are talking about deadlines. Dissatisfied with them - it is, in principle, true. But you understand that after the collapse, everything goes practically in a new way. It is very difficult. The designers are old, many are already retired - young people, consider, are studying according to these first samples. Everything will come to its senses in the future - they will do better and faster - with experience.
  17. VladimS
    VladimS 3 October 2013 14: 10 New
    +1
    But Taburetkin regularly allocated money for the construction thereof? Hardly.
    From that and the timing of such. So no need here ...
  18. marat1000
    marat1000 3 October 2013 14: 16 New
    -2
    Ahahaha laughing laughing laughing , three years did a boat and three years kickbacks, kickbacks, kickbacks))) Chickens laugh, it’s really possible to build a trough in a month, there’s nothing complicated there. Americans will build an aircraft carrier in such a period
  19. marat1000
    marat1000 3 October 2013 14: 19 New
    +1
    Right now I looked at this little one and I wonder how it would be better if Russia copied from China and it would have been faster, and it would have been more profitable. Otherwise, apart from shame, the homeland hasn’t gained anything.
  20. sven27
    sven27 3 October 2013 14: 37 New
    -3
    Finally, cheers patriots began to minus, otherwise I already got bored)))
    1. marat1000
      marat1000 3 October 2013 18: 53 New
      0
      I also set a minus for you, ear laughing
      1. sven27
        sven27 4 October 2013 09: 57 New
        0
        Quote: marat1000
        I also set a minus for you, laughing ear

        you are Troll, I do not care for you hi
  21. Muadipus
    Muadipus 3 October 2013 14: 56 New
    +2
    Quote: Vadivak
    The boat was built at the enterprise since 2010 and was removed from the workshop to a floating dock on September 28, 2013. The delivery of "Ivan Kartsov" is planned by the end of the year.

    Yeah, and I mean the same thing. Mistral builds faster than a boat
    The boat was built at the enterprise since 2010 and was removed from the workshop to a floating dock on September 28, 2013. The delivery of "Ivan Kartsov" is planned by the end of the year.
  22. AK-47
    AK-47 3 October 2013 15: 01 New
    +7
    ... in Vladivostok, OJSC “Vostochnaya Verf” launched the landing boat “Ivan Kartsov” of project 21820 “Dugong”. The boat with serial number 4001 was laid in 2010, becoming the first production boat of this project. Designer - OAO Central Design Bureau for SEC named after R.E. Alekseeva "(Nizhny Novgorod)


    Small spool but precious.

    Specifications:
    Displacement: 280 t. (Full)
    The main dimensions: length - 45 m, width - 8.6 m, draft - 2.2 m.
    Maximum travel speed: 35 knots
    Navigation range - 300 miles
    Seaworthiness - 5 points
    Crew: 6 people
    Airborne capability: 3 tank or 5 armored vehicles
    Armament: two 14.5-mm MTPU machine gun installations

    Project 21820 is a basic modification of an airborne landing craft.
    1. viktor_ui
      viktor_ui 3 October 2013 17: 37 New
      +1
      AK-47 - "Small Spool Yes Road." drinks and in pursuit and asks "small bug yes smelly" wassat... I don’t want 3 with a minus, but I want 2 with a plus ... I don’t connect you, but I just think of myself and continued the state from the article: either to rejoice, or to cry recourse
  23. DJEIN8
    DJEIN8 3 October 2013 15: 09 New
    +5
    We learned how to arrange a show-parody during the launch ... (soon, and perhaps even when launching a new boat
    will carry out)
    Launch a NEW ship with a rating of THREE ........ !!!?
    They work on the principle of "they pretend that we are paid, and we that work" ...
    Then they will be proud as they cheated THEM ......... THEM is ... WHO ... ??? ...
    And their families and they themselves, and in general we all can be "proud" of such work, ..... rejoice ..
    And sworn "friends" how happy such QUALITY .....
    A RESPECT to ..... MYSELF, OWN WORK ... But how to serve sailors on this ...?
    In turn, and HOW sailors will operate the ship ......., a terrible chain .....
    Do not be thoughtful ... ??? EVERYTHING you can’t dump fish on a rotting head ......
    1. Ramadan
      Ramadan 3 October 2013 22: 15 New
      0
      "They work according to the principle" they pretend that we are paid, and we that work "..." - 5 points !! ))))))))
  24. aepocmam
    aepocmam 3 October 2013 16: 01 New
    +3
    Firstly, not Ivan, but Roman, and not Kartsov, but Kartsov. And so, the news is great. Seven feet keel and keep it up!
  25. de bouillon
    de bouillon 3 October 2013 20: 02 New
    0
    Quote: Ram Chandra
    Here you guys are talking about deadlines. Dissatisfied with them - it is, in principle, true. But you understand that after the collapse, everything goes practically in a new way. It is very difficult. The designers are old, many are already retired - young people, consider, are studying according to these first samples. Everything will come to its senses in the future - they will do better and faster - with experience.


    and what's new? go where up or down ?? in my opinion they condemned it already .. the conclusion is not comforting
  26. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 3 October 2013 21: 12 New
    +1
    <<< Launch of the landing boat "Ivan Kartsov" >>>
    It seems that for our shipbuilding this is a whole EVENT! Here are the fruits of the liberal market, the fruits of the collapse that cannot be overcome. For a long time we will have to wait for the revival of the mighty Russian fleet!
    1. 77bor1973
      77bor1973 3 October 2013 22: 00 New
      0
      For this enterprise, and this is, in principle, an achievement. We need to work "rolling up our sleeves." All this reminds a fairy tale "About the Boy Kibalchish" - there are guns, but there is no one to shoot!
  27. Dyukha Siberian
    Dyukha Siberian 3 October 2013 22: 31 New
    +1
    I will not quote anyone, but the comments above are a fact! accountants and economists rule the ball! and on whom they save? for those who are building! nobody wants to work for the idea now, everyone wants to eat! wages are not for quality, but for the quantity and time of production! until the state provides locksmiths, welders, machinists, etc. worthy remuneration of their work, motivation to train new specialists, then in the near future we will generally have nothing to catch! Higher education is great of course, but who will build it? new ships, missiles and everywhere there is a marriage! Yes, he will go on! why? see above! 3 years KATER built! correct if I'm wrong!
  28. gunnerminer
    gunnerminer 4 October 2013 00: 33 New
    +1
    Launching an unfinished boat is presented as news and success? Have you already lowered to such a distortion?
  29. voliador
    voliador 4 October 2013 01: 00 New
    +1
    I am in favor of increasing both the quantity and quality of ships under construction with both hands. BUT. 3 (three) years (!) To build a pelvis with a displacement of 280 tons. This does not go into any gates. With such a pace, what the hell are aircraft carriers, what is everyone dreaming of?
  30. voliador
    voliador 4 October 2013 01: 06 New
    0
    True, I can add that the boat from this Denis Davydov series has been under construction for a year and a half already (from January 2012 to July 2013 - launching). This, of course, is progress ( wassat ), but still - chickens to laugh!
  31. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 4 October 2013 10: 34 New
    -1
    Let the boat, but still nice.