Launching of the landing boat "Ivan Kartsov"

On the evening of September 30, 2013, Vostochnaya Verf OJSC in Vladivostok launched the water from the floating dock of a high-speed landing boat in the air cavity "Ivan Kartsov" (serial number 4001) - the lead boat of the project 21820 being built at this enterprise (code "Dugong") . This is the first boat of this type designed for the Pacific fleet Russian Navy. The boat was built at the enterprise since 2010 and was removed from the workshop to a floating dock on September 28, 2013. The delivery of "Ivan Kartsov" is planned by the end of the year.

The lead landing craft of the 21820 project (cipher "Dugong") developed by the Nizhniy Novgorod Open Society "Central Design Bureau for the SEC named after RE Alekseyev" was built at OJSC "Shipbuilding Plant" Volga "in Nizhny Novgorod (serial number 811) and transferred to the Russian Navy in 2010 year joining the Caspian Flotilla as D-105 (in June 2010 of the year was named Ataman Platov). Three more boats of this project under the name Denis Davydov (serial number 701), Lieutenant Rimsky-Korsakov (serial number 702 ) and “Michman Lermontov” (703 serial number) are built under a contract with the Ministry of Russian ones, dated June 2011 year at OAO "Yaroslavl shipyard." The first boat "Denis Davydov" was launched in Yaroslavl, July 26 2013 years.

As reported on the web site, forums.airbase.ru, in addition to launching its head assault boat of the 21820 project, Vostochnaya Verf, also 26, September 2013 of the year was handed over by the Russian-built 21980 anti-diversion boat Rook (8002 number) ), and shortly before that, the floating dock of the 2010 project built for the Navy under the contract from 17789 was commissioned.

Comments

[honest jew]

Good news !!!! Advocates awake !!!

[ShturmKGB]

It seems to me that they are very long being built .. the same boats, and what are the terms then for large ships will be ?!

[smiths xnumx]

And why whine about the timing of the construction of ships. Then (in the early 2000s), when they were laid down, there was complete devastation, the legacy of the BNU, then yes. Theft flourished, the prevalence of corruption, the rule of the oligarchy. Not that now, right now they got up from their knees.
So we will look at how much they will build a second ship, second, third and fourth frigates of project 22350. Then we can start))

[Ramadan]

Maybe it's time to stop nodding to the heavy legacy and get down to business "rolling up your sleeves"? And the dominance of corruption has not gone anywhere!
3 years for the construction of the boat is a lot. If there was no funding, then this is one question, if the fault of the plant, then this is another question that needs to be addressed.
Now it is not in vain that everyone raises the question of increasing production efficiency ....

[old man54]

Quote: Kuznetsov 1977

Theft flourished, the prevalence of corruption, the rule of the oligarchy.

and now, of course, there is complete order on these issues in the State University, right?

Quote: Kuznetsov 1977

Not that now, right now they got up from their knees.

Yeah, they got up, it just seems to have gotten up with cancer, and right from their knees !!!

[andrey903]

Each boat is given a name

[Manager]

Quote: Honest Jew

Good news !!!! Advocates awake !!!

Well, get away from one such boat straight ...

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Honest Jew

Good news !!!! Advocates awake !!!

Rough trolling.

[honest jew]

Soon and Mistral Descent !!!

[Vadivak]

Quote: Honest Jew

Soon and Mistral Descent !!!

The construction time of the Mistral is 36 months, like this boat, with the only difference that the boat was built not in France, but at the Vostochnaya Verf JSC.

[Canep]

And what is quality ?, the photo shows how metal warped at the welds. So the seams become visible after several years of operation.

[TRex]

Well, you have eyesight! Congratulations! I envy! How many pixels?

[Canep]

Actually, this is visible to the unarmed views on the photographs from the article, in the bow of the ship and on the superstructure.

[Coward]

Violation of welding technology. Most likely they cooked single-pass and unidirectional seams. Now many young welders do not even have a clue about: reverse-printing welding, multidirectional (counter) seams, annealing rollers, tapping the weld after each pass. It also seems that funds were not allocated, or simply mastered, for straightening welding deformations and annealing thermal zones in the weld areas of the kit.

[APASUS]

Quote: Coward

. Now many young welders do not even have a clue about: reverse-printing welding, multidirectional (counter) seams, annealing rollers, tapping the weld after each pass.

When they begin to replace welders with such robots, perhaps we’ll move forward.

[Coward]

Robots cannot completely replace welders. They are good at welding butt welds. Welding the kit to the casing, especially in the double bottom and double-hull spaces, is the destiny of a person. The greatest welding deformation gives just a set.
By the way, in my opinion, when welding butt rectilinear seams, it is better to use friction stir welding, rather than electric arc welding. This is to what to change the welders.

[APASUS]

Quote: Coward

This is to what to change the welders.

This is not to push all welders into a corner, but to the fact that modern technology in a shipyard involves a large-knot assembly. Such a robot will pass a 5 meter seam in 10 minutes with the highest quality of welding, given that a highly qualified welder can average 200 meters on average shift, then you begin to understand why the supertanker at Daewoo shipyards is being built a year.
And our landing boats are brewed the old fashioned way ......... it's time to get down to business, and not write on each vessel "has no analogues in the world"

[jjj]

Yes, we know how it is cooked without oxygen, and how to cook titanium. Technology has been around for decades. In Russia

[smiths xnumx]

Considered the acquisition of the Mistral.
Dugongs and Chamois. It seems that even in this version a little more of the landed equipment and drugs in one wave comes out. But there all the problems with durability were a kind of crude project. At high speeds and excitement, the hull in the stern began to crack. Therefore, for so long.

[honest jew]

Quote: Vladimirets

Rough trolling.

- Intelligence test.
Laugh after the word "shovel."
Shovel.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Honest Jew

- Intelligence test.
Laugh after the word "shovel."
Shovel.

My brain is unable to find the deepest meaning in your set of words. Is the test failed?

[DJEIN8]

honest Jew 13:00 Normal Jews for such a MORAL freak should be
I am ashamed ....... and whether a Jew ..... After your ... with you to conduct a test and not
it is necessary ........ so everything is clear ........

[Genry]

Quote: Honest Jew

- Intelligence test.
Laugh after the word "shovel."
Shovel.

You Pahzoite the nation of Europe !!!

[Apollo]

Quote-The lead landing boat of project 21820 (code "Dugong"), developed by the Nizhny Novgorod Central Design Bureau for SEC named after R.E. Alekseev, was built at the Volga Shipyard in Nizhny Novgorod (serial number 811) and transferred to the Russian Navy 2010 year,

[MAN]

In my opinion, this is great news! More to such news!

[dimon-media]

I will not argue, our fleet needs both small and large ships. Some went wrong - they need big, you need big ships! We need ships of generally all classes. And we build as we can. The main thing is that we are building in general. And our fleet, compared with some, is not so old. (for example, Japan: they have an average age of 30-40 years for ships). This does not mean that you need to equal them. It will be more correct for us to constantly develop shipbuilding and not stop there and hope for a miracle. A Russian fleet, be!

[VAF]

Quote: dimon-media

This does not mean that you need to equal them

Yah ? And who then .. on the great tandem?
And wait for another miracle? - Here comes the master and ... master will judge us?

And so ... just read about ... their fleet and "their pace"

On September 28, 2013, the Huangpu Shipyard in Guangzhou launched 576 Huangshi, the 18th Type 054A frigate.

On October 1, 2013, the 19th Type 054A class frigate was launched at the Hudong shipyard in Guangzhou.

Conclusion: .... no comments

[Ka-52]

YES, and this is at normal prices. Unlike us. We do it at 1%, take 99%, and yell at 200%
where are the business executives, you must have a conscience!

[cyberspace]

Quote: Ka-52

where are the business executives

Enterprises are not ruled by business executives, but by "accountants" - economists, for whom the main thing is not production indicators, but financial ones. Almost everywhere, the staff of accountants and economists seems to be inflated and there is nowhere else, and the techies are being cut. And until it is explained to the accountants that their business is to count, and not to manage, business will be done extremely slowly.

[marat1000]

Not theirs, but theirs. Theirs)) There is no such word (this is in the common people drunks say so)

[Alex 241]

"Ikhny" is found in Bulgakov, and in Zoshchenko, and in Gorky, and in Bunin, and in Prishvin, and in Shklovsky, and in L. Andreev, and in Chukovsky, and in L. Tolstoy, in Chekhov, in Dostoevsky, Turgenev, Leskov, not to mention our contemporaries. After that, to say that "the word does not exist" can only be a very ... peculiarly stubborn and blinkered person.

[POBEDA]

Speak and write "them" correctly. "Theirs" is very colloquially colloquial. And the point.

[jjj]

Do you know about the ranks of Casseriou?

[alone]

Quote: vaf

Conclusion: .... no comments

why no comment? have a comment)

the state and the people responsible to the state work. and work diligently and with a clear conscience.

[Srgsoap]

Well, it’s not so old, but in number:
4 diesel-electric submarine Harusio, construction 1991-1995
11 diesel-electric submarines of the Oyashio type, construction 1998-2008
3 diesel-electric submarines “Soryu” - 2009-2011
URO destroyers:
2 type "Hatakadze" mid 80s
2 “Atago”, 4 “Congo” (similar to the American EM URO of the Orly Burke project) 1993-1998
32 destroyers of four types 1987-2006
more detailed information here http://www.modernarmy.ru/article/138
Alas, we have so far nothing to oppose, and there is still China.

[Kibalchish]

You can joke about the news as much as you want, BUT the fact - ships are still being built in Vladivostok. Let so far and such.

[novobranets]

Quote: Kibalchish

Let so far and such.

The main point is the production is saved.

[alone]

Yes, it is certain. +

[VohaAhov]

By the end of the year there will be more good news about the Navy. November will be especially eventful.

[Dazdranagon]

The Japanese must have surrendered themselves to "indignation and deepest sorrow" ...

[novobranets]

Quote: Dazdranagon

The Japanese must be outraged

These are Japanese, they can only cross over.

[faint27]

Build a boat 3 years ??? Something needs to be changed in our USC!

[17085]

After the first article on the subject of this Dugong rummaged on the Internet, asked colleagues. I understood one thing, to hell with it with quality, the need for these boats, both for the Navy and civilians, is just what.
One of my classmates in Vladik works at this eastern shipyard in Ulysses and visited the Yaroslavl shipyard as an exchange of experience, I myself did not communicate with him, but the guys say that he clutched at his head because of how they build there. At Denis Davydov's, some units were altered several times in order to pass acceptance, and this is only for the body. But in the end they accepted it with a score of 3--. Almost immediately after launching, Putin spoke at some meeting about the low quality of the equipment being handed over to the army and navy. I think Deniskin's contribution was also present in this. But there is a word - it is necessary. Immediately I remember with what rush they took raw tanks before the war ("Stalin's Armor Shield" M. Svirin). It is necessary, build, more, and then you look - better.

[darksoul]

Three years boat ... no words ....

[Ram chandra]

Here you guys are talking about deadlines. Dissatisfied with them - it is, in principle, true. But you understand that after the collapse, everything goes practically in a new way. It is very difficult. The designers are old, many are already retired - young people, consider, are studying according to these first samples. Everything will come to its senses in the future - they will do better and faster - with experience.

[VladimS]

But Taburetkin regularly allocated money for the construction thereof? Hardly.
From that and the timing of such. So no need here ...

[marat1000]

Ahahaha , three years did a boat and three years kickbacks, kickbacks, kickbacks))) Chickens laugh, it’s really possible to build a trough in a month, there’s nothing complicated there. Americans will build an aircraft carrier in such a period

[marat1000]

Right now I looked at this little one and I wonder how it would be better if Russia copied from China and it would have been faster, and it would have been more profitable. Otherwise, apart from shame, the homeland hasn’t gained anything.

[faint27]

Finally, cheers patriots began to minus, otherwise I already got bored)))

[marat1000]

I also set a minus for you, ear

[faint27]

Quote: marat1000

I also set a minus for you, laughing ear

you are Troll, I do not care for you

[Muadipus]

Quote: Vadivak

The boat has been under construction at the enterprise since 2010 and was taken out of the workshop to the floating dock on September 28, 2013. Delivery of "Ivan Kartsov" is planned by the end of the year.

Yeah, and I mean the same thing. Mistral builds faster than a boat

The boat has been under construction at the enterprise since 2010 and was taken out of the workshop to the floating dock on September 28, 2013. Delivery of "Ivan Kartsov" is planned by the end of the year.

[AK-47]

... in Vladivostok, OJSC “Vostochnaya Verf” launched the landing boat “Ivan Kartsov” of project 21820 “Dugong”. The boat with serial number 4001 was laid in 2010, becoming the first production boat of this project. Designer - OAO Central Design Bureau for SEC named after R.E. Alekseeva "(Nizhny Novgorod)

Small spool but precious.

Specifications:
Displacement: 280 t. (Full)
The main dimensions: length - 45 m, width - 8.6 m, draft - 2.2 m.
Maximum travel speed: 35 knots
Navigation range - 300 miles
Seaworthiness - 5 points
Crew: 6 people
Airborne capability: 3 tank or 5 armored vehicles
Armament: two 14.5-mm MTPU machine gun installations

Project 21820 is a basic modification of an airborne landing craft.

[viktor_ui]

AK-47 - "Small spool but expensive." and in pursuit and asks "the bug is small and smelly" ... I don’t want 3 with a minus, but I want 2 with a plus ... I don’t connect you, but I just think of myself and continued the state from the article: either to rejoice, or to cry

[DJEIN8]

We learned how to arrange a show-parody during the launch ... (soon, and perhaps even when launching a new boat
will carry out)
Launch a NEW ship with a rating of THREE ........ !!!?
They work according to the principle "they pretend that they pay us, and we work" ...
Then they will be proud as they cheated THEM ......... THEM is ... WHO ... ??? ...
And their families and they themselves, and in general we can all be "proud" of such work, ..... rejoice ..
And the sworn "friends" will be delighted with such QUALITY .....
A RESPECT to ..... MYSELF, OWN WORK ... But how to serve sailors on this ...?
In turn, and HOW sailors will operate the ship ......., a terrible chain .....
Do not be thoughtful ... ??? EVERYTHING you can’t dump fish on a rotting head ......

[Ramadan]

"They work according to the principle" they pretend that they pay us, and we work, "..." - 5 points !! )))))))

[aepocmam]

Firstly, not Ivan, but Roman, and not Kartsov, but Kartsov. And so, the news is great. Seven feet keel and keep it up!

[de bouillon]

Quote: Ram Chandra

Here you guys are talking about deadlines. Dissatisfied with them - it is, in principle, true. But you understand that after the collapse, everything goes practically in a new way. It is very difficult. The designers are old, many are already retired - young people, consider, are studying according to these first samples. Everything will come to its senses in the future - they will do better and faster - with experience.

and what's new? go where up or down ?? in my opinion they condemned it already .. the conclusion is not comforting

[Goldmitro]

<<< Launching the landing boat "Ivan Kartsov" >>>
It seems that for our shipbuilding this is a whole EVENT! Here are the fruits of the liberal market, the fruits of the collapse that cannot be overcome. For a long time we will have to wait for the revival of the mighty Russian fleet!

[77bor1973]

For this enterprise, this is already, in principle, an achievement. We need to work "rolling up our sleeves." All this reminds of the fairy tale "About Boy Kibalchish" - there are guns, but there is no one to shoot!

[Dyukha Siberian]

I will not quote anyone, but the comments above are a fact! accountants and economists run the show! and who do they save on? on those who build! no one wants to work for the idea now, everyone wants to eat! labor is paid not for quality, but for quantity and production time! until the state provides locksmiths, welders, machine operators, etc. decent wages for their labor, motivation to train new specialists, then in the near future we generally "will have nothing to catch"! Higher education is great, of course, but who will build? new ships, rockets and marriage is everywhere! and he will go on! why? look above! 3 years BUILDING BOAT! correct if I'm wrong!

[gunnerminer]

Launching an unfinished boat is presented as news and success? Have you already lowered to such a distortion?

[voliador]

I am in favor of increasing both the quantity and quality of ships under construction with both hands. BUT. 3 (three) years (!) To build a pelvis with a displacement of 280 tons. This does not go into any gates. With such a pace, what the hell are aircraft carriers, what is everyone dreaming of?

[voliador]

True, I can add that the boat from this Denis Davydov series has been under construction for a year and a half already (from January 2012 to July 2013 - launching). This, of course, is progress ( ), but still - chickens to laugh!

[1c-inform-city]

Let the boat, but still nice.