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Vladimir Putin "pardoned" ministers

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The last day of September in Russia was “marked” by the release of an interesting presidential decree number 754. At the beginning of the material is to give the full text of this document to, as they say, more accurately identify the subject of conversation.


So, the decree №754 from 30.09.2013 year

On the removal of disciplinary action from the Minister of Education and Science of the Russian Federation, the Minister of Labor and Social Protection of the Russian Federation.

1. Consider the Minister (the word in the decree is used with a capital letter - author's note) of education and science of the Russian Federation D.V. Livanova, Minister of Labor and Social Protection of the Russian Federation M. Topilin. not having a disciplinary penalty imposed by Decree of the President of the Russian Federation on 19.09.12 No. XXUMX “On declaring a disciplinary penalty to the Minister of Education and Science of the Russian Federation, the Minister of Regional Development of the Russian Federation and the Minister of Labor and Social Protection of the Russian Federation”.
2. This Decree shall enter into force on the date of its signing.

President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin


Bottom line: Dmitry Livanov and Maxim Topilin may throw leather suitcases against the ceiling from an excess of positive emotions, but the former head of the Ministry of Regional Development Oleg Govorun will continue to walk “under the yoke” of disciplinary action. Let’s try to figure out what prompted our president to pardon the ministers.

Vladimir Putin "pardoned" ministers


Returning to the time of reprimands designated ministers. Then - in September 2012 of the year - the disgruntled President Putin decided to discipline ministers Topilin, Livanov and Govorun for what they were, let's say, coolly attributed to the execution of his (Putin) May decrees - decrees that the President signed as soon as he was inaugurated.

Consider the points of these decrees, which are directly related to the work of the Ministry of Education and the Ministry of Labor. The Ministry of Regional Development, with its head at that time, will not touch on this material, since the Govorun, speaking in folk language, cut off a chunk ...
So here. In a presidential decree No. 599 of 7 in May, 2013 indicated the scope of work for the Government in the field of education and science. Here are some important points from that decree.

Achievement of 2016 year 100% of the availability of preschool education for children aged 3 to 7 years.

Entry to 2020 year at least five Russian universities in the first hundred of the world's leading universities according to the world ranking of universities.

Increase in 2015 of the year of the share of the employed population from 25 to 65 years, who underwent advanced training and (or) professional training, in the total number of people employed in the field of economics of this age group to 37 percent.

Increase in 2020 year the number of children from 5 to 18 years enrolled in additional educational programs in the total number of children of this age to 70-75 percent, stipulating that 50 percent of them should be trained at the expense of the federal budget allocations.

Increase in domestic research and development expenses by 2015 up to 1,77 as a percentage of gross domestic product with an increase in the share of educational institutions of higher professional education in such expenses up to 11,4 per cent.

By September 2012, take measures aimed at eliminating queues for enrollment of children aged from three to seven years in pre-school educational institutions, providing for the expansion of the forms and methods of pre-school education, including in private pre-school educational institutions.

To ensure the development by June 2012 of a set of measures aimed at identifying and supporting gifted children and young people.

By the end of 2013, to ensure the implementation of measures to support teachers working with children from socially disadvantaged families.

It turns out that in the year since the receipt of the disciplinary sanction, the Minister of Education and Science Dmitry Livanov managed to correct all his shortcomings, for which President Putin changed his anger at the mercy of him. And what exactly is the minister Livanov corrected something? Maybe our queues in kindergartens have disappeared, maybe we have developed unique programs for working with gifted children, maybe our universities are beating all world ranking records, and teachers who work with "difficult" children no longer know what to do with the means of state support? ..
If all is true, then the Minister Livanov needed not only to cancel the disciplinary punishment, but also to submit to a high state award ... Or, perhaps, you just need to be patient, because in the clerical depths a decree about his award is being prepared, about which the Russian public will soon should be informed (well, how about awarding General Makarov with a star of the Hero of Russia in 2012, for example) ...

Requirements were also put forward regarding the work of the ministry headed by Maxim Topilin. Among others, there were some: take all measures, in order for 2018 in Russia, on average, labor productivity increased by 1,5 times, the share of high-tech sector increased by 30% of total GDP indicators, 25 million modernized jobs were created.
Considering these presidential requirements, it turns out that the work of Maxim Topilin (even immediately after the minister made a proposal to deprive the unemployed Russian citizens of free medical care in order to attract them to work and pay taxes) fully complies with the requirements of the highest federal authorities. It turns out that the modernization of jobs in Russia is in full swing, the knowledge-intensive sector “gives the country coal”, and labor productivity is growing so that the Chinese and Singaporeans are only jealous of us ...

Then the Minister of Labor and Social Protection also needs to be submitted to a high state award with the casting of a bronze bust and the subsequent installation of this bust upon entering the Government building ...

In general, the ministers are forgiven by the president, and this means that they will have to take up the work of everyone in their sector with triple enthusiasm ... Well, here ... And we are here (and not only us), you know, argued that it was time for Livanov to resign after all his reform perturbations. It was argued that it was time, from the Minister of Labor, to ask exactly where the modernization of workplaces proceeded (in the meeting hall of the Federation Council or in his personal office).

Not! Still, we do not understand anything either in sensible ministers or in the principles of their work for the benefit of the people and the Fatherland. There is no limit to our dullness and backwardness ... Ministers first received disciplinary penalties for failing to comply with presidential orders, then these penalties were lifted for the same failure to comply with presidential decrees. We are definitely not able to master such a "quantum" logic ...
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  1. Ustas
    Ustas 3 October 2013 08: 34 New
    57
    Well, "Everything is calm in Baghdad."
    Now it remains to release Vasiliev and terminate the case against Serdyukov.
    1. krasin
      krasin 3 October 2013 08: 39 New
      10
      There is no limit to our grayness and denseness ...
      We definitely can’t master such “quantum” logic ...
      Quote: Ustas
      Now it remains to release Vasiliev and terminate the case against Serdyukov.

      For a complete understanding of the picture!
      1. smiths xnumx
        smiths xnumx 3 October 2013 09: 51 New
        33
        In short, something like this ...
        1. honest jew
          honest jew 3 October 2013 12: 04 New
          +3
          on the thief and the hat is on !!!!
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        7. vjhbc
          vjhbc 3 October 2013 22: 35 New
          +4
          our golden people
        8. Airman
          Airman 4 October 2013 00: 57 New
          +7
          Quote: smiths xnumx
          In short, something like this ...

          The Tsar orders his boyars, without wasting time, both science (RAS) and offspring (school) urgently to throw water into the abyss. From paid medicine to a super-expensive cemetery. Here is the slogan of "our" (so that they die) reformers.
    2. klimpopov
      klimpopov 3 October 2013 08: 48 New
      16
      And what about Mr. Field Assistant is something to do?
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 3 October 2013 14: 31 New
        +9
        He’s not to blame for anything !!! Golden man... wassat
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 3 October 2013 15: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: Serg 122
          He’s not to blame for anything !!!

          Pay the fat, um ... fine - and sleep well. belay
    3. bodriy
      bodriy 3 October 2013 09: 05 New
      12
      Someone is surprised, I don’t! This is normal! So Livanov can still train something else, we are waiting for news on this front!
      1. Garrin
        Garrin 3 October 2013 09: 36 New
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        Quote: bodriy
        then Livanov can still be re-educated, we are waiting for news on this front!

        The fact is that all of his "graduation" hit our children and grandchildren. Does the guarantor not guess? Or consciously decided to raise a generation of uneducated cattle?
        1. ben gun
          ben gun 3 October 2013 11: 29 New
          +6
          In connection with all the news of our domestic and foreign policy, I recall with sadness the phrase-curse of the ancient Chinese - that you live in an interesting time.
          So we live in an interesting time, with the feeling that there are even more interesting times ahead.
        2. Normal
          Normal 3 October 2013 12: 45 New
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          Quote: Garrin
          Does the guarantor not guess?


          Of course he doesn’t “guess”. He is precisely the guarantor of everything that Livanov and others like him do.
        3. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 3 October 2013 15: 57 New
          +6
          Quote: Garrin
          The fact is that all of his "graduation" hit our children and grandchildren. Does the guarantor not guess? Or consciously decided to raise a generation of uneducated cattle?

          The fact is that his graduation is a real state policy and was not initiated by him.
          1. bask
            bask 3 October 2013 16: 05 New
            +7
            Vladimir Putin "pardoned" ministers

            First of all, he did not pardon the government, but himself.
            After all, he primarily bears personal responsibility both for politics and for the economy.
            1. Vittt
              Vittt 3 October 2013 16: 51 New
              +4
              He and only he bears all responsibility for this insanity! But he is a monument, who will plant him!
              1. denn
                denn 3 October 2013 18: 47 New
                0
                And personally, you are not responsible? Not at all?
            2. Falcons 2013
              Falcons 2013 3 October 2013 18: 41 New
              -2
              Gentlemen, you don’t see the general picture of the world at all, so don’t understand the essence of what is happening. Putin has to retreat so far. This is also indicated by Surkov’s new appointment. And why Putin has to retreat, turn on your brain and everything will become clear.
          2. denn
            denn 3 October 2013 19: 26 New
            0
            Why didn’t you so cleverly emphasize “in accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation”? Essentially keywords in a sentence.
            1. New Russia
              New Russia 3 October 2013 21: 23 New
              +3
              And what does that change? :) Do you want the constitution to not answer for it?
        4. Vittt
          Vittt 3 October 2013 16: 48 New
          +5
          Honestly, when I look at your Minister of Education and Science, my hair stands on end. How can such a person be allowed to power? What’s in Putin’s head with a medical specialist? I didn’t even hear about our Minister of Education, because Lukashenko doesn’t allow revolutionaries to take power. Our business is getting better, but education is kept at a good level (teachers have only a small salary).
        5. bear
          bear 3 October 2013 19: 42 New
          +4
          And they do not need us educated, otherwise we ask too many questions
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 3 October 2013 20: 28 New
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            Quote: bear
            And they do not need us educated, otherwise we ask too many questions

            Right.

            And if the population is not educated - it not only does not ask questions, but also invents wonderful answers laughing
            Quote: Falcons 2013
            Gentlemen, you don’t see the general picture of the world at all, so don’t understand the essence of what is happening. Putin has to retreat so far. This is also indicated by Surkov’s new appointment. And why Putin has to retreat, turn on your brain and everything will become clear.
      2. novobranets
        novobranets 3 October 2013 15: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: bodriy
        Livanov can still be trained

        Get together, children, in a heap, fortunately, I’m going to graduate. wassat
    4. Hon
      Hon 3 October 2013 09: 10 New
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      Quote: Ustas
      Now it remains to release Vasiliev and terminate the case against Serdyukov.

      And in relation to Serdyukov there is no case, he is just a witness!
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 3 October 2013 14: 32 New
        +6
        A witness on the body of Vasilyeva ...
    5. anip
      anip 3 October 2013 09: 20 New
      13
      Quote: Ustas
      Now it remains to release Vasiliev and terminate the case against Serdyukov.

      Nah ... Another scenario is more logical here:
      Serdyukov, after all, is already a witness, so there is no longer any case against him, and as for Vasilyeva, she is now under house arrest, that means she will be punished, and when the investigation is over, the term of house arrest will be set off, and she will already serve her sentence. Everything is simple.
    6. 123dv
      123dv 3 October 2013 10: 00 New
      +8
      I do not know the gentlemen too much in the face, but the one on the right looks VERY colorful.
      His image just exudes cognac.
      1. matross
        matross 3 October 2013 11: 18 New
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        Quote: 123dv
        the image just exudes cognac.

        Yes, you can see right away - he loves this thing!
        Well, yes, this is not considered a sin in Russia.
        But the second - Livanova - p.ed.d.k.a smooth, just do not amnesty, but you must castrate! And to entrust the "procedure" to graduates of a Russian high school who have not studied, by his grace, anatomy! With broadcast on TV on the channel "Culture"!
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 3 October 2013 18: 45 New
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        Quote: 123dv
        I do not know the gentlemen too much in the face, but the one on the right looks VERY colorful. His image just exudes cognac.

        From his face, pure XO drains! wink
    7. creak
      creak 3 October 2013 11: 03 New
      +5
      It seems that this is only a matter of time ... Time will pass and things will slowly fall apart or they will fall apart ...
    8. Beon
      Beon 3 October 2013 11: 04 New
      +2
      Theater of the absurd!
      1. Walking
        Walking 3 October 2013 14: 11 New
        +5
        As always, a person stole 10 million dollars instead of a prison forgiveness or another position, go steal further.
    9. sub307
      sub307 3 October 2013 14: 55 New
      +1
      And I won’t be surprised if this happens.
    10. Vittt
      Vittt 3 October 2013 16: 43 New
      +3
      I think that Vasilyeva and Serdyukov will also have to, and investigators will be deprived of the prize.
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    12. vjhbc
      vjhbc 3 October 2013 22: 00 New
      +2
      gold people
    13. Valery Neonov
      Valery Neonov 4 October 2013 05: 46 New
      +3
      Apparently this will happen soon ... The main person involved in the case, E. Vasilieva, is now under house arrest. If the investigative actions are not completed by October 24, then A. Serdyukov’s comrade-in-arms will be released at the end of November. request

      Read full article: http://top.rbc.ru/society/04/10/2013/880455.shtml
    14. Joker
      Joker 5 October 2013 01: 28 New
      +1
      And where are the Putin worshipers? Anyone else have doubts? So Putin didn’t know and everyone does everything for the evil of Putin, he knows everything there and Serdyuchka did everything with his consent.
  2. sapsan14
    sapsan14 3 October 2013 08: 35 New
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    The actions of the president and the government are just tricky moves wink , we don’t understand them. To paraphrase V. Lenin: "The circle of these servants of the people is narrow ... They are terribly far from the people ... Their cause has disappeared ..."
    1. Asgard
      Asgard 3 October 2013 09: 08 New
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      Volodin correctly focused on the capital letters of the presidential decrees ...
      As you can see, education fell even in the administration))))
      Below the baseboard, as everywhere in all of Russia, in all areas of knowledge, production and life ....

      And the ministers, the whole government and Vladimir Vladimirovich personally are to blame for this ...
      Confidence falls, here economists say that during the year you can’t expect any shocks ...

      But I doubt very much "this" ....
      The number of critical "errors" just rolls over, the algorithm shows that soon everyone will die ....
      Either Power or We (the second is unlikely, according to the algorithm))))
      1. AK-47
        AK-47 3 October 2013 10: 40 New
        +6
        Quote: Asgard
        And this is the fault of the ministers, the whole government and ...

        Make a lot of mistakes? It’s a pity that they are not sappers.
        1. ben gun
          ben gun 3 October 2013 11: 32 New
          +6
          And sappers are WE who live in the Russian Federation and in the territories of the USSR now, and will live in the future.
  3. Alex66
    Alex66 3 October 2013 08: 36 New
    +8
    And here we (and not only us), you see, reasoned that it was time for Livanov to resign after all his reformist upheavals
    Only I immediately read not perturbations, but mast .... bats, and in my opinion it is much better, because and from Livanov and mast ... no specific fruits.
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 October 2013 08: 42 New
    0
    Not! Still, we do not understand anything in sensible ministers, nor in the principles of their work for the benefit of the people and the Fatherland. There is no limit to our dullness and denseness ... The ministers first received disciplinary sanctions for failure to fulfill instructions of the president, then these penalties were removed from them for the same failure to comply with presidential decrees. We definitely cannot master such a "quantum" logic ...


    Not everyone will understand this arithmetic, much less the average citizen. Undercover intrigues, but what without them, at court!
  5. bubla5
    bubla5 3 October 2013 08: 47 New
    +3
    Well right, the robber's nightingale cohort
  6. Rakti-kali
    Rakti-kali 3 October 2013 08: 48 New
    +7
    We definitely can’t master such “quantum” logic ...

    It's just that here, as in physics, we don’t know much yet, but just like in physics we understand "something is wrong here ...".
    And as in physics - if the "general theory" is not applicable to the minister, then there is a "special" theory for him.
  7. saag
    saag 3 October 2013 08: 50 New
    +6
    Looks like there was a recommendation phone call asking not to upset good people
  8. nemec55
    nemec55 3 October 2013 08: 50 New
    -7
    Actually, it’s an ungrateful matter to judge ministers now, the thing is that their work can be judged specifically in 15-20 years. Indeed, in our history we always exalt it at the beginning, then overthrow it, then deify it, and so on. It's time to stop living like that. We need a concrete approach. WHAT THE ELECTOR IS AND TOLERANT.
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 3 October 2013 08: 55 New
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      Yes, no one elected them, they themselves took
      1. nemec55
        nemec55 3 October 2013 09: 05 New
        10
        GDP was chosen and he scored hi
      2. Serg 122
        Serg 122 3 October 2013 14: 35 New
        +1
        Self-nominated ...
    2. nemec55
      nemec55 3 October 2013 09: 51 New
      0
      It seems that the woman Dusya will sit down and have fun. Arguments please. Or go to seed the husk.
    3. user
      user 3 October 2013 12: 22 New
      +8
      Well, let's see the last 15 years, we all know the faces and the results too

      1.Filippov Vladimir Mikhailovich - Minister of Education of the Russian Federation (1998-2004)

      Chairman of the Higher Attestation Commission of the Ministry of Education and Science of Russia since February 2013, Rector of the Peoples' Friendship University of Russia (RUDN) (1993-1998 and since 2005), academician of the Russian Academy of Education, doctor of physical and mathematical sciences, professor.
      At the initiative and under the leadership of V. M. Filippov, an active modernization of Russian education was launched.

      2. Fursenko Andrey Alexandrovich - Minister of Education of the Russian Federation (2004-2012)

      Acting Minister of Industry, Science and Technology (2003-2004). Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation (since May 21, 2012). Member of the Board of Trustees of the Russian Council on Foreign Affairs (2011).
      He is a big supporter of the exam. According to Fursenko, the Unified State Exam (and the Olympics) "do not provide opportunities for corruption."

      3. Livanov Dmitry Viktorovich - Minister of Education of the Russian Federation since May 21, 2012.

      Previously - rector of NITU MISiS (2007-2012), professor of the Department of Non-ferrous Metals Metals MISiS (2004-2012), State Secretary - Deputy Minister of Education of the Russian Federation (2005-2007), Director of the Department of State Science, Technology and Innovation Policy at the Ministry of Education of the Russian Federation (2004-2005). Doctor of physical and mathematical sciences.
      In 2003, with a crushing score, he failed in the election of member-members in the Department of Physical Sciences of the Russian Academy of Sciences: two “for”, the rest “against”. He is the nephew of the Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Dmitry Rogozin.
      Livanov opposed the increase in the number of students in universities, believing that an overabundance of students in higher education deprives prestige, in particular, education in technical schools, and gradually it is necessary to abandon free higher education in general, using other mechanisms to finance the training of new specialists, including educational loans . He is the initiator of the reform of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
    4. user
      user 3 October 2013 12: 25 New
      +3
      And here are the results of their activities.
      Passing ball at the faculties (budget) of Novosibirsk State Technical University. At the beginning of the 90s, the largest university beyond the Urals was considered. According to Forbes magazine, it ranks 19th in the Russian Federation for the success of graduates among universities.
      All data is publicly available (I did not give the full results for a simple reason - 10 faculties and about 100 specialties), but you need to take into account that in 2013, the lower bar for receiving documents depending on the specialty began with 108 points:

      Faculty of Physics and Technology, in the field of:

      Optical Engineering - 144
      Photonics and Optoinformatics - 144
      Innovation - 144
      Physics -156
      Laser technology and laser technology -156
      Technical Physics -156

      Faculty of aircraft:

      Applied Mechanics - 150
      Ammunition and fuses - 150
      Aircraft - 161
      Ballistics and hydroaerodynamics - 161
      Technical operation of aircraft and engines - 161
      Management in technical systems - 161
      Technical Physics - 161
      Technosphere Safety - 161

      Faculty of Automation and Computer Engineering:

      Biotechnological systems and technologies - 169
      Instrument Engineering - 162

      Faculty of Mechanics and Technology:

      Materials Science and Materials Technology - 167
      Technological machines and equipment - 167
      Design and technological support
      machine-building industries - 167
      Nanoengineering - 167
      Operation of transport and technological
      machines and complexes - 167

      Faculty of Radio Engineering and Electronics:

      Electronics and Nanoelectronics - 187
      Nanotechnology and microsystem technology - 187
      Radio engineering - 188
      Infocommunication technologies and communication systems - 188
      Design and Technology of Electronic Tools - 188

      But the faculties to which people go:

      Faculty of Humanities Education:
      (oddly enough, for a technical university, this is the largest humanitarian faculty in the city and one of the best in Novosibirsk):

      Linguistics - 235
      Social Work - 234

      Faculty of Energy:

      Heat power engineering and heat engineering - 216
      Power industry and electrical engineering - 243
      Technosphere Safety - 232
      1. washi
        washi 3 October 2013 16: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: user
        And here are the results of their activities.
        Passing ball at the faculties (budget) of Novosibirsk State Technical University. At the beginning of the 90s, the largest university beyond the Urals was considered.

        I agree, but Tomsk were valued higher. Novosib was valued because of accessibility (railway, two airports), and Tomsk for quality and practice (unfortunately in the 90s, almost all plants were destroyed because they mainly worked for the defense industry (in Soviet times the best ones were selected for the best salary.) And the Tomsk University is generally the oldest in Siberia and the Far East (it was here that the archives of All Siberia and Far East were stored, transferred that are half lost to the regional centers)
    5. user
      user 3 October 2013 12: 29 New
      +6
      Well, the question?
      After such reforms and their results, when should we expect an upsurge and breakthrough in science and industry. Before answering, look again at the passing ball on the budget form of training. And this despite the fact that NSTU is one of the leaders among universities and was taken as a model.
  9. erased
    erased 3 October 2013 08: 56 New
    16
    Ha, surprised! But the fact that high-ranking bureaucrats added some money is interesting! Yesterday there was such an infa on the net. In a word - do what you like, nothing for you will be an acre dough and new posts! Cool approach. Money for thieves and enemies! Taburetkina with a harem and kodla - to freedom! Well, what is the faith of the authorities after that ?!
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 3 October 2013 09: 09 New
      +3
      and this was added to them for moral compensation
  10. Mr.M
    Mr.M 3 October 2013 09: 07 New
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    Livanov is a real disgrace, a worthy successor to the Fursen. What kind of levy can be dealt with when, at the direction of this strategist, horseradish, they continue to systematically drive nail after nail into the coffin of education ??
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 3 October 2013 09: 13 New
      +8
      quote-In general, the ministers are forgiven by the president, which means that they will have to start working with triple enthusiasm each in their sector ...

      Yeah ........ now they’re breaking firewood with triple enthusiasm.

      quote-Then the Minister of Labor and Social Protection, too must be submitted to a high state award with casting a bust from bronze and then installing this bust at the entrance to the building
      Governments ...

      they forgot about Dmitry Anatolyevich, but what then is supposed to him then?! Again for the presidency in 2018.?!
      1. King
        King 3 October 2013 09: 24 New
        +8
        I think Medvedev will no longer choose the people.
        1. Garrin
          Garrin 3 October 2013 09: 55 New
          14
          Quote: King
          I think Medvedev will no longer choose the people

          He will not choose the people, so Churov will choose. Incidentally, they also gave him some good money.
        2. Dimych
          Dimych 3 October 2013 10: 14 New
          10
          Do you really think that the PEOPLE are choosing someone here?
        3. IRBIS
          IRBIS 3 October 2013 12: 40 New
          +5
          Quote: King
          I think Medvedev will no longer choose the people.

          Blessed is he who believes ...
      2. Normal
        Normal 3 October 2013 13: 04 New
        +9
        Quote: Apollon
        they forgot about Dmitry Anatolyevich, but what then is supposed to him then?! Again for the presidency in 2018.?!

        Correction; not in 2018, but in 2024 laughing Why not? The President is generally pleased with the work of the Government.
        1. alone
          alone 3 October 2013 23: 06 New
          +2
          what poor people, again he is to blame! recourse
  11. patriot2
    patriot2 3 October 2013 09: 22 New
    +8
    Quote: Apollon
    they forgot about Dmitry Anatolyevich, but what then is supposed to him then?! Again for the presidency in 2018.?!

    DIMA IN THE "MASTERS"! Is this a disgrace to Russia !? Enough - "sniffed"!
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 3 October 2013 09: 43 New
      +2
      But the fact that the presidential term was increased to 6 years is not just that?
  12. koksalek
    koksalek 3 October 2013 09: 26 New
    +5
    Reminds distribution of orders and medals to Brezhnev and Brezhnev
  13. Stiletto
    Stiletto 3 October 2013 09: 31 New
    11
    Quote: erased
    Ha, surprised! But the fact that high-ranking bureaucrats added some money is interesting!


    Well, so Medvedev tried, sought, as he could. He cut down the country's expenses by five percent, suggested we tighten the loop, go to migrant workers, and so on. And all the same he found, he is our golden man! Even the switch to winter time was canceled, so that more time was left for him to think about PEOPLE. And now we find out the names of these people ...
    Good politics, nothing to say. I won’t be surprised if we wait for the state’s public apologies to the Minister of Furniture and his swans. For caused, so to speak, inconvenience, discomfort and moral suffering.
  14. luxing
    luxing 3 October 2013 09: 36 New
    +3
    Quote: Ustas
    Well, "Everything is calm in Baghdad."
    Now it remains to release Vasiliev and terminate the case against Serdyukov.



    That's for sure and they are all good and fluffy am
    1. Misantrop
      Misantrop 3 October 2013 09: 45 New
      +9
      Quote: luxing
      they are all good and fluffy
      Yeah, white and fluffy. Like a toilet brush laughing
  15. Ulysses
    Ulysses 3 October 2013 09: 44 New
    +3
    Mouse fuss against a deep recession.
  16. LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 3 October 2013 09: 53 New
    +7
    The Cabinet of Ministers of Medvedev - I demand to be relieved of my posts!

    Ministers should have teachers and doctors. So to speak, people from the people. But only a question, but something to change? Or do we have such a mentality - life or life?
    1. sven27
      sven27 3 October 2013 10: 35 New
      +8
      Quote: LaGlobal
      The Cabinet of Ministers of Medvedev - I demand to be relieved of my posts!

      Yes, at least ten times change ministers, nothing will change, because the ministers in our country are executors of the will of the president.
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 3 October 2013 16: 07 New
      +5
      Quote: LaGlobal
      The Cabinet of Ministers of Medvedev - I demand to be relieved of my posts!
    3. New Russia
      New Russia 3 October 2013 16: 18 New
      +7
      Our mentality is normal, people just sitting there have nothing to do with us, they have families and houses in the West, Russia is a corporation for them, and we are unprofitable workers ...
      1. Garrin
        Garrin 3 October 2013 21: 46 New
        +3
        Quote: New Russia
        and we are unprofitable workers ...

        Well said. "+" good
  17. Rambiaka
    Rambiaka 3 October 2013 10: 46 New
    +3
    In fact, in accordance with Art. 194 of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation, if within a year from the day the disciplinary sanction is applied, the employee is not subjected to a new disciplinary sanction, then he is considered not to have a disciplinary sanction. Everything is simple!
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 3 October 2013 16: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: Rambiaka
      In fact, in accordance with Art. 194 of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation, if within a year from the day the disciplinary sanction is applied, the employee is not subjected to a new disciplinary sanction, then he is considered not to have a disciplinary sanction. Everything is simple!

      The penalty was imposed on September 19.09, and removed on September 30.09, despite the fact that it is automatically removed after the expiration of the statute of limitations and does not require documentation - so go by.
      1. Arabist
        Arabist 3 October 2013 16: 21 New
        0
        Yarosvet, the employer has the right to early remove the disciplinary sanction.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 3 October 2013 20: 33 New
          +5
          Quote: Arabist
          Yarosvet, the employer has the right to early remove the disciplinary sanction.

          An Arabist, you are like a lawyer - should you be attentive to documents?

          The penalty was imposed on 19.09.12/30.09.13/11, and removed on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, that is, XNUMX days after automatic leveling - where is the early cancellation here?
  18. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 3 October 2013 11: 00 New
    +3
    <<< The ministers first received disciplinary sanctions for failure to comply with the president’s instructions, then these penalties were removed from them for the same failure to comply with presidential decrees. We definitely cannot master such a "quantum" logic ... >>>
    It seems that our liberals are so firmly seated in power that they are simply NOT FOR THE TEETH of our supreme and he maneuvers everything so that the sheep are safe and the wolves are full! But where you can sail with such a policy, provoking in society, the people more and more DISAPPOINTMENT! Is the light wedged on the liberals and in Russia there is no one to rely on in order to pursue a policy in the interests of Russia itself, without regard to the foreign game-democrats!
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 3 October 2013 11: 42 New
      10
      “It seems that our liberals are so firmly seated in power that they are simply NOT TOO DIGITAL to our sovereign” Slavish thinking, even when they spit in people's faces, Putin is not to blame :)
  19. Altona
    Altona 3 October 2013 11: 55 New
    +4
    And we still believe that only Saudi Arabia is a country of sheikhs, however ...
  20. IRBIS
    IRBIS 3 October 2013 12: 43 New
    +8
    "Bottom line: Dmitry Livanov and Maxim Topilin can throw leather suitcases to the ceiling from an excess of positive emotions ..."
    And if you add their emotions here after raising official salaries, then the suitcases will fly not only to the ceiling ... so that I live like this ...
  21. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 3 October 2013 13: 05 New
    +3
    The meaning is this: - “WE figured it out, everything turns out to be right, this is WE in our“ presidential decree No. 599 of May 7, 2013 for the Government in the field of education and science ”-“ FANTASED ”, and then, with respect to YOU, we got excited. Sorry! Continue in the same vein, in favor of "US"!
  22. Achilles Pyatkin
    Achilles Pyatkin 3 October 2013 13: 06 New
    -3
    .In my opinion, Putin is preparing these "Timurovites" on a long voyage to the mattress shores .. here and relaxed to kick harder ... You should give me the medals already for Serdyukov ... even removed ... damn ... well, and the punishment is a matter of time. ..Long and long
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    2. New Russia
      New Russia 3 October 2013 13: 38 New
      0
      "In my opinion, Putin is preparing these" Timurovites "on a long voyage to the mattress shores ... so he relaxed to hit him harder .. You have to give me the medals already for Serdyukov ... I took off ... damn ... well, and the punishment a matter of time ... albeit a long "
      I'm translating. The main enemy of the people is preparing a team of their bandits with whom they went to work together and with whom it is tied with crimes and contempt and indifference to the people to betray them, because he is still good. We, slaves are grateful to the usurper of power for pitying us and not letting our bandit Serdyukov mock us too cruelly, thank you for this our dear gracious Putin, and God will punish Serdyukov :)
    3. polly
      polly 3 October 2013 14: 01 New
      15
      Looks like the plan was deep, and the whole pragmatic sense was that he took it off! laughing
      1. alone
        alone 3 October 2013 23: 08 New
        0
        wassat when the cabinet is dismissed, Obama will probably make hara-kiri))
  23. samoletil18
    samoletil18 3 October 2013 14: 55 New
    +2
    Well, if Livanov was left without foreclosure, then Serdyukov, wait again in the government. Among the debilitated citizens of Russia, as a result of reforms in the field of education and housing and communal services, the latter can at least deal with stools, and not just plump. Under Stalin, they also stole, but NOT SO.
  24. kosopooz77
    kosopooz77 3 October 2013 15: 17 New
    +7
    The structure of the Russian government is such that these ministers are just executors, yet another "effective managers." they are let down from the Presidential Administration, where the education, for example, is supervised by the same Fursenko, the assistant to the President, by the way. So these figures only continue to bend the line according to the long-planned plan (Dulles).
  25. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 3 October 2013 16: 23 New
    +4
    -----------------------------------
  26. washi
    washi 3 October 2013 16: 32 New
    -3
    Or maybe it's more complicated.
    For example: they remove the penalty, but does not stick to the RAS, or does not pay attention to individual Academgorodoks. There are many options
    Unfortunately, we do not have monarchism, but "democracy" under the leadership of the West.
    Have to spin
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 3 October 2013 16: 38 New
      +6
      These comments make me sit on the site a lot :) Do you hear yourself? Putin doesn’t dismiss his own minister, but negotiates with him :) It’s the same as the McDonald’s employee tells his boss that I won’t put rotten meat in Big Mac, but you won’t fire me :) It's funny :) And by the way, RAS
  27. Arabist
    Arabist 3 October 2013 16: 50 New
    -1
    The author does not even seem to know what an amnesty is.
    1. turan_up
      turan_up 3 October 2013 17: 17 New
      0
      Plant the author, and then amnesty. And he learns about the amnesty, and will gain experience ..
  28. michajlo
    michajlo 3 October 2013 17: 17 New
    +4
    Quote: LaGlobal
    The Cabinet of Ministers of Medvedev - I demand to be relieved of my posts!

    Ministers should have teachers and doctors. So to speak, people from the people. But only a question, but something to change? Or do we have such a mentality - life or life?


    Good day to all!

    It will definitely improve, but only on one condition!

    That instead of the "hang glider and scuba diver", the PEOPLE WILL SELECT (and not agree) the ordinary patriot of Russia,
    and not to “the servants of foreign and rasei aligarhofs” according to the “EBN recommendation”.
  29. APASUS
    APASUS 3 October 2013 18: 46 New
    +1
    “You do not regret yourself, Yuri Benediktovich! You think all about the people, you need to rest ... "
  30. Volkhov
    Volkhov 3 October 2013 19: 05 New
    +3
    We must be careful, a photo is attached to the article - take a closer look at Min's foreheads. formations (wrinkles are even, like a notebook in a ruler) and Topilina - wrinkles like a wave on the sea. These organisms are artificially modified with the use of symbols of name and purpose, and "reprimand" meant only additional maintenance, as in the Glonass satellite - they oriented and removed the restrictions. The Russian Federation is too important part of Earth civilization and the invaders do not allow access to the government of people in a natural state. Somewhere in the small countries of Africa, a person can break through to power himself, but not here ...
    All questions regarding the activities of such organisms are addressed to the Programmer.
    1. alone
      alone 3 October 2013 23: 09 New
      +2
      what terrible faces))
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  32. de bouillon
    de bouillon 3 October 2013 20: 07 New
    +4
    Chubais is generally the most forgiven of the forgiven laughing

  33. MaKeNa
    MaKeNa 3 October 2013 20: 28 New
    +3
    On the one hand, our president is very correct, and speaks well and sees a perspective, and on the other ..? What kind of ministers does he appoint? And then they rule at his direction! Or, as always in Russia. the king does not know. what do the boyars do? Hard to believe! Are you going dear, coachman ?!
    1. denn
      denn 3 October 2013 21: 20 New
      0
      Appoints - does not mean that he picks them up. What did you want in controlled Russia? At his direction, they just rule little, take at least spring decrees in the field of education. As long as there is no sovereignty, there will be no national politics. Why does no one understand this? The lack of sovereignty of the country has been repeatedly said by V.V. Putin himself. But no one hears something. Plus staff shortage. Do you have a recipe for recruiting? Can you guarantee that today's "patriot" will not go over to the liberals? The citizens of Russia do not want sovereignty, it’s easier to troll in the comments, to look for the guilty.
    2. New Russia
      New Russia 3 October 2013 21: 38 New
      +2
      "and speaks well" He would have spoken his true goals. "and sees the prospect" If he sees, he has something to fly away :)
  34. understudy
    understudy 3 October 2013 20: 48 New
    +4
    What is happening is called very simply - staff shortage. In fact, "cards" from the same greasy deck are transferred from one dresser to another. This is not even a famous "stagnation", it is a disaster. In any case, her harbingers.
  35. Papania
    Papania 4 October 2013 07: 19 New
    +3
    Why spawn. The guys drove the suitcase and that's it ... Now you can both sway at Andrew the First-Called.
  36. understudy
    understudy 4 October 2013 10: 51 New
    +2
    It seems that not only ministers are "amnesting" ...


    "Moscow. October 4. INTERFAX.RU - The first person arrested in a high-profile criminal case of major embezzlement of the Ministry of Defense’s property through structures of Oboronservis OJSC, businessman Maxim Zakutailo, who has been in jail for 11 months, will be automatically released at the end of October, Kommersant reports in friday.
    “Both charges against him are classified as grave, according to which, according to Article 109 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation, there is a 12-month deadline for detention for the period of the preliminary investigation. Moreover, paragraph 6 of the same article indicates that“ if after the completion of the preliminary investigation the criminal case materials were presented to the accused and his counsel later than 30 days before the end of the detention period, then after it the accused is subject to immediate release, "the publication notes.
    The newspaper emphasizes that this term, October 1, has already been missed by the Main Military Investigation Directorate (GVSU): the final charge has not yet been brought. Thus, on October 31, Zakutailo will be released from the pre-trial detention center, Kommersant reports. (with)
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