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US F-22 fighters transferred to the Middle East

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US F-22 fighters transferred to the Middle East

An amateur photographer "caught" landing on the camera F-22 - the only fifth-generation fighter in service with the US Air Force in the Azores. This may mean that Americans are creating a group of stealth fighters in the Middle East.


F-22 is one of the most expensive combat aircraft of the US Air Force, but since its entry into service in 2005, it has never participated in air battles. Until now, the fighter was listed only in a few squadrons in the United States, and the Pentagon, apparently, is trying its best to protect it for future missions, allowing these planes only deliberately safe flights, for example, escorting in neutral airspace of Russian strategic bombers performing patrol.

In particular, in 2007, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates refused to deploy F-22 in Iraq, and all subsequent deployments of these aircraft outside the US were temporary.


However, photos of the F-22 landing made by André Inácio at Lažes airfield (Azores) may indicate that the US military is seriously planning to put the aircraft into action. According to The Aviationist, the sealed fighter is listed as the 3 wing of the US 11 Air Force and is permanently based at the Elmendorf base in Alaska.

Presumably, the captured F-22 are sent to al-Dhafra military base in the United Arab Emirates, where they will join aircraft of this type that had previously arrived in the Middle East. In mid-September, the US Air Force reported that the F-22 for the first time in stories came into contact with Iranian aircraft, "chased" the F-4 "Phantom" of the Iranian Air Force from the MQ-1 drone flying over the sea.

Perhaps the transfer of F-22 may be evidence of the preparation of a strike against Syria, since the US military still does not abandon plans for a forceful influence on the government of Bashar al-Assad.

Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor made its first flight in 1997. Although initially the US authorities wanted to order more 600-like aircraft, because of the high cost of production ($ 150 million per unit), all 187 machines were produced, five of which were lost over the years of operation. The exorbitant costs forced the Pentagon to curtail production of the F-22 and begin the procedure of adopting another fifth-generation fighter - the F-35.

According to foreign media.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 2 October 2013 12: 12 New
    17
    The news is not the best, I hope our "specialists" are already keeping them under control ...
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 2 October 2013 12: 18 New
      +8
      Quote: ...
      US military seriously intends to put the plane into business


      It’s unlikely that the F-117, for example, was really put into action and screwed up all over the world. But how to try to fly a spy over ships in the Mediterranean is quite
      1. bask
        bask 2 October 2013 12: 33 New
        +5
        US F-22 fighters transferred to the Middle East

        Now Syria will destroy its chemical weapons .. And Sisha will calmly strike.
        Not fearing a retaliatory strike by a chemical weapon .. against Israel.
        This scenario has already been tested in Iraq (they will find the reason, dirty tubes with urine of Obana will be declared a chemical .. Syria’s weapon laughing )
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 2 October 2013 13: 28 New
          0
          Quote: bask
          Now Syria will destroy its chemical weapons .. And Sisha will calmly strike.

          It is only on paper that everything is so simple, mixed in reagents and warmed up as a result of the reaction.
          How many years has Russia destroyed its chemical weapons? The article was already on September 5, 2013 about mobile chemical weapons destruction facilities.
          1. Alex Danilov
            Alex Danilov 2 October 2013 19: 19 New
            0
            Who told you that Russia is destroying him? Any weapon to destroy is death from the enemy. Russia, on the contrary, is developing a new and better weapon, any. And this is right.
            In general, what the hell is the United States pounding on chemical weapons in Syria? What difference does it make when they kill, all the same, it makes sense to kill one. What difference does it make with a gun or chemical weapons or US cruise missiles? Oh, the United States needs to get rid of nuclear weapons and cruise missiles. Then Syria will get rid of chemical weapons.
        2. Gluxar_
          Gluxar_ 2 October 2013 23: 08 New
          0
          Quote: bask
          Now Syria will destroy its chemical weapons .. And Sisha will calmly strike. Not fearing a retaliatory strike by a chemical weapon .. against Israel. This scenario has already been tested in Iraq (they will find the reason, dirty tubes with urine of Obana will be declared a chemical .. Syria’s weapon

          During the time that chemical weapons will be destroyed, Iran will finish its bomb and Israel and the United States will end in the Middle East.
      2. postman
        postman 2 October 2013 13: 06 New
        +7
        Vadim
        why
        Quote: Vadivak
        and screwed up all over the world.

        ??
        In the entire history of the operation of F-117 aircraft, according to official figures, it was lost 7 cars (a little over 10% of the total number of built), including one F-117 ((ser. number 82-0806)) was shot down during the fighting.
        “Nighthawks” flew a total of about 220 hours, that is, a raid on one loss was about 000 hours.

        And in Yugoslavia, they participated (F-117), something around 48.
        You do not take seriously the fabrications of Konstantin Kolontaev about 40% of losses ....
        (probably there were not so many ZR in Yugoslavia, in total)
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 2 October 2013 14: 33 New
          +8
          Quote: Postman
          And in Yugoslavia, they participated (F-117), something around 48.


          Given the fact that all and sundry fought against the Serbs, the destruction of the "invisible" oppressed Serbian air defense only says that the losses of this model were much larger
          In general, the Serbs also reported the downing of 2 B-2 - sides under the names "Spirit of Washington" and "Spirit of Missouri."
          And after Serbia, Congress decided that it was enough to feed the goblin cavalry, in 2006 the first ten pieces were removed from service, and then they were cut in small batches. April 22, 2008 made the last flight the remaining four F-117
          Colonel Zoltan Danina is currently working as a baker in his own bakery, and on the day of the downing of F-117, that is, March 27, he bakes branded loaves in the form of this flying iron)
          1. Windbreak
            Windbreak 2 October 2013 21: 55 New
            +1
            Quote: Vadivak
            In general, the Serbs also reported the downing of 2 B-2 - sides under the names "Spirit of Washington" and "Spirit of Missouri."
            And these "downed" B-2s still fly
          2. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 3 October 2013 03: 40 New
            +1
            Now, on my birthday, March 27, I will drink for the shot down 117 !!! normal toast drinks
        2. 0255
          0255 2 October 2013 14: 41 New
          +5
          In the entire history of the operation of F-117 aircraft, according to official data, 7 vehicles were lost (a little more than 10% of the total number built), including one F-117 ((ser. Number 82-0806)) was shot down during combat action.

          when Zoltan Dani shot down the F-177, the Americans said that it crashed due to engine failure. And when it was proved to them that the F-117 was still shot down by an air defense system, then the Americans proved that it was shot down from the modern S-300, and not the old S-125.
          Read TOPWAR articles on NATO casualties:
          http://topwar.ru/31035-oblomki-chernyh-yastrebov-poteri-nato-yugoslavii.html
          http://topwar.ru/15180-poteri-nato-v-yugoslavii.html
          articles contradict each other, I don’t know which one to believe more (I want to believe the second wink), but the fact is that the real losses of the United States are greater than they admit. They still issue many of the F-86 Sabers shot down in the Korean War exclusively as non-combat losses. Do you think the Yugoslav MiG-29 could not shoot down another F-117, as the Serbs say?
          In mid-September, the US Air Force reported that the F-22 made contact with Iranian aircraft for the first time in history, "chasing" the F-4 Phantom of the Iranian Air Force from an MQ-1 drone flying over the sea.

          Iran would have had a more serious air force, would send the old F-15 or F-16 to intercept, in which case they would be attributed to non-combat losses. And then it would be a little expensive to build a new F-22
        3. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 2 October 2013 23: 15 New
          0
          Quote: Postman
          You do not take seriously the fabrications of Konstantin Kolontaev about 40% of losses ....

          Kolontaev drew conclusions about the war with Iraq in 2003, but the results of the F-117 air strikes in this war are nowhere even the Jews are silent, but how many conversations were on Yugoslavia and the first Iraqi, there are some strange data on disarmament in 2006 there is 2008 and there is no 2007.
      3. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 2 October 2013 13: 12 New
        12
        Quote: Vadivak
        It’s unlikely that the F-117, for example, was really put into action and screwed up all over the world. But how to try to fly a spy over ships in the Mediterranean is quite

        Well hello, and this:

        "In mid-September, the US Air Force reported that an F-22 made contact with Iranian aircraft for the first time in history, chasing an Iranian Air Force F-4 Phantom away from an MQ-1 drone flying over the sea."

        what is not the real deal? They drove the whole Phantom, this is not a joke. The Phantom has a great experience, it has been flying since 1961.
        1. IRBIS
          IRBIS 2 October 2013 14: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: Vladimirets
          already from the 1961 year flies.

          belay Still?
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 2 October 2013 14: 54 New
            +4
            Quote: IRBIS
            Still?

            Of course, I say, old chopper.
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 2 October 2013 15: 15 New
          +6
          Quote: Vladimirets
          then is not the real deal? They drove the whole Phantom, this is not a joke.


          How did you decide only?

          By the way, the French "Rafal" for example confidently captures and accompanies the "Reptor" with its airborne sighting system
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 2 October 2013 16: 25 New
            12
            Quote: Vadivak
            By the way, the French "Rafal" for example confidently captures and accompanies the "Reptor" with its airborne sighting system

            Nuuu, Rafal. Raptor's main rivals in the sky: Phantom, MiG-21, J-7, Bf-109. Also, the Raptor is not noticeable for Po-2 and Hurricanes of all modifications.
        3. Vittt
          Vittt 2 October 2013 16: 58 New
          +2
          Do not forget, the F-117 was created thanks to the wonderful RUSSIAN genius who moved to the USA.
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 2 October 2013 20: 37 New
            +3
            Quote: Vittt
            Do not forget, the F-117 was created thanks to the wonderful RUSSIAN genius who moved to the USA.


            "The method of boundary waves in the physical theory of diffraction", Ufimtsev P. Ya., Ed. Soviet Radio, 1962, circulation 6.5 volumes.
    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 2 October 2013 12: 30 New
      +8
      You must always be on your guard, these reptiles can not be trusted!
    3. Mujahiddin777
      Mujahiddin777 2 October 2013 12: 49 New
      +1
      I always looked at the US Armed Forces with a smile or smirk on my face. It always seemed that their weapons are the same as in Hollywood films and no more. They are really NOTHING without their chemical weapons when they realize that the work that they started will result in failure !!!
    4. air wolf
      air wolf 2 October 2013 13: 11 New
      -2
      Hmm, there can be huge problems, because at one time, the air defense of Iraq opened stealth, and in Syria there are hardly any optical-electronic reconnaissance stations. And the rockets will have to be manually pointed, experience is needed. In short - an ass!
      1. Orel
        Orel 2 October 2013 13: 46 New
        +5
        Until now, the fighter was listed in only a few squadrons in the United States, and the Pentagon, apparently, is trying its best to protect it for future missions


        It's just a shame if a whole wagon of gold breaks. The dry weight of the F-22 is equal to the approximate value of gold of the same weight. Therefore, the "golden" plane and cherish. The United States has no other gold reserve, only pieces of paper remain ...
        1. stix99
          stix99 2 October 2013 21: 48 New
          0
          Until now, the fighter was listed in only a few squadrons !!!!! HOW MUCH I REMEMBER THE ESCADRILS, NOT THE ESCADRONS ... THE AUTHOR OF THE ARTICLE Explicitly GIVED THE MAH .....
    5. GSH-18
      GSH-18 2 October 2013 13: 56 New
      +2
      Riveting "raptors" would be much cheaper than designing, fine-tuning, production rollbacks, cuts, production of the 35s. lol Avaricious pays twice, and sucker thrice! Well, we are only better off. Bring your T-50 and put it in the native Air Force. And then it will be possible to substantively judge who is hu yes
    6. Bronis
      Bronis 2 October 2013 14: 01 New
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      The news is not the best, I hope our "specialists" are already keeping them under control ...

      On the contrary, maybe the news is positive? It is unlikely that the F-22 will fight. As long as there is more of a politician ... they say we know, we remember, we will not forgive ... Now, if they had thrown the "Strike Needle", it would be like a sign of war. And most importantly - the news is probabilistic and more sucked from the finger. It can mean, it cannot mean ... A reason is needed for war, but it takes time to prepare it ...
    7. arutun
      arutun 2 October 2013 15: 00 New
      +3
      I wouldn’t strain like that, because judging by the pictures in the material, this is not an airplane landing but a take-off.
      Either the picture is not the same, or the article is another duck.
    8. Vittt
      Vittt 2 October 2013 16: 41 New
      -4
      Russia's control over the F-22? Than? "Azov"? A-50? Armavir station? Satellites (working for a couple of years and then poor)?
    9. Vittt
      Vittt 2 October 2013 16: 54 New
      0
      The fact is that the F-22 is the only serial fighter in the world that flies for a rather long time (although you can spit as much as you like, but their OBOGS does not work well, and indeed the grenades are of the wrong model) .Although I personally had the F-23 sweeter. T-50 is beautiful. But he will have to go all the way to the BEAST for so long that I'm sad ...
  2. skif33
    skif33 2 October 2013 12: 16 New
    15
    Quote: svp67
    The news is not the best, I hope our "specialists" are already keeping them under control ...

    Why!!! Our radars, as they say, will try this beast for a tooth. From this, I think there will be some pluses.
    1. rugor
      rugor 2 October 2013 12: 21 New
      11
      And if you plop down somewhere nearby, then you’ll get a closer look.
      1. Vittt
        Vittt 2 October 2013 20: 28 New
        0
        Where did he plop? They are afraid of him flying over their allies!
    2. Timeout
      Timeout 2 October 2013 12: 22 New
      10
      And with might and main already tested the air defense system in Atlasovo on Sakhalin, when they were based in Japan.
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 2 October 2013 12: 36 New
        +6
        Quote: Timeout
        And with might and main already tested the air defense system in Atlasovo on Sakhalin, when they were based in Japan.

        - and what does this predator taste like? Briefly at least ...
        1. Yura
          Yura 2 October 2013 13: 02 New
          +4
          Quote: aksakal
          - and what does this predator taste like? Briefly at least ...

          Our people do not say anything about this, they probably do not want to disappoint too much and let them know about the real possibilities of our air defense. And so yes, it’s very interesting and I want to know, but as they say, wanting is not harmful, it’s harmful to overeat, or tightly cramped tomatoes, or pants, or ..... well, you’re completely confused ... lol
        2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
          GELEZNII_KAPUT 2 October 2013 13: 03 New
          +4
          Quote: aksakal
          - and what does this predator taste like? Briefly at least ...

          taste like gold! bully
        3. Timeout
          Timeout 2 October 2013 13: 49 New
          +9
          Quote: aksakal
          - and what does this predator taste like? Briefly at least.

          Observations of the Raptors have already been commented on a couple of times on the basis of the conducted exercises of the Air Defense Forces of the Far East, I will give a link to them later, as I did not attach great importance to this infe, I deleted the bookmark, I remember that this is a site of some of the Military Bulletins. Based on the data that was during the exercise, the early warning and tracking system at Atlasovo calmly detected and identified the lizards with a 98% probability at a distance of 160 km. So fairy tales about EPR like a postage stamp are just fairy tales. It also notes that when the electronic warfare system was turned on, the Raptors were removed from the station's coverage area, which, according to experts, suggests that the radars installed on these machines simply go blind from the induced interference.
          1. GSH-18
            GSH-18 2 October 2013 14: 17 New
            +1
            Quote: Timeout
            It also notes that when the electronic warfare system was turned on, the Raptors were removed from the station's coverage area, which, according to experts, suggests that the radars installed on these machines simply go blind from the induced interference.

            Well then, it's just wonderful! It is clear why ours do not comment on anything. A gesture of goodwill, provide an opportunity to save face the US Air Force.
            1. 0255
              0255 2 October 2013 14: 48 New
              +3
              look on Youtube or Military Review how Rafal beat Raptor. F-22 was quite well captured in the sight of the "Frenchman"
              1. Mhpv
                Mhpv 2 October 2013 16: 05 New
                +1
                Drive a predator. To the shame of the F-22 "Reptor"
                http://www.odnako.org/blogs/show_26530/
          2. Locksmith
            Locksmith 2 October 2013 15: 17 New
            +1
            Americans are simply afraid of getting caught in the "service", then it will be possible to look at their EPR from different points and the Luneberg lens will no longer save the rag from the examination wink
          3. poquello
            poquello 2 October 2013 20: 23 New
            +2
            Quote: Timeout
            So fairy tales about EPR like a postage stamp are just fairy tales. It also notes that when the electronic warfare system was turned on, the Raptors were removed from the station's coverage area, which, according to experts, suggests that the radars installed on these machines simply go blind from the induced interference.

            I agree, it’s very much like a fairy tale about Raptor’s mini-EPR, now I was looking at the carapace about the carapace, there they tried to control the RC model ~ 500x500mm at twenty carapace and didn’t really see it, but the model died, they say from interference.
        4. Vittt
          Vittt 2 October 2013 20: 31 New
          +2
          Briefly (he taught foreign communications officers in Soviet times (the most primitive ones were from the GDR)): it’s not easy. Although a lot of time has passed, ZAS equipment is still ZAS equipment for me. I will say this: ALL goals are determined, another thing ...I am.
          1. poquello
            poquello 2 October 2013 21: 32 New
            +3
            Quote: Vittt
            Briefly (he taught foreign communications officers in Soviet times (the most primitive ones were from the GDR)): it’s not easy. Although a lot of time has passed, ZAS equipment is still ZAS equipment for me. I will say this: ALL goals are determined, another thing ...I am.

            As one comrade wrote on the forum, where there is a movie with a shell to shoot pigeons when they spoil a freshly washed car.
        5. Vittt
          Vittt 2 October 2013 20: 46 New
          0
          The working range of its calculation is decimetric, long-wave, and microwave. I did not discover America, but it was difficult to detect such vehicles at supersonic cruising speed (mainly because of the weak microelement base of the communications troops, although the comrade said that the movements have recently been very serious).
  3. 77bor1973
    77bor1973 2 October 2013 12: 21 New
    0
    When you are afraid to lose something, then in fact, it is something to lose — the law of life.
  4. Altona
    Altona 2 October 2013 12: 26 New
    +3
    Yes, let him fly in principle, there is someone to follow him and draw the appropriate conclusions ... As for the strike power, they will do the same bombing with other strike weapons ... Most likely, if this device performs any tasks, then he will create an appropriate PR and rating to push the 35th in the market ... Something like that probably ...
  5. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 2 October 2013 12: 34 New
    +1
    trying his best to save it for future missions, allowing these planes to only knowingly safe flights,
    They’re afraid of losing ... So he’s not so invulnerable ..)))
  6. specialist636
    specialist636 2 October 2013 12: 35 New
    -4
    It would be very good if the Americans got involved in some kind of adventure. Then Russia will definitely take a leading position in the world and will improve the economy due to rising oil prices and arms supplies
    1. Ihrek
      Ihrek 2 October 2013 13: 33 New
      +8
      This adventure will cost the lives of women and children. Therefore, such a price increase is not needed, and it’s time to get off oil dependence.
  7. Gur
    Gur 2 October 2013 12: 35 New
    0
    One in the field is not a warrior
  8. Bort radist
    Bort radist 2 October 2013 12: 42 New
    10
    And do not get tired of repeating - How much more beautiful of ours! To click.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 2 October 2013 19: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: Bort Radist
      And do not get tired of repeating - How much more beautiful of ours! To click.

      From ours it blows with warmth (our designers did not create them for attack but to defend their Fatherland and they look like angels in the fight against Satan ..)
  9. Basileus
    Basileus 2 October 2013 12: 43 New
    +2
    In the next few years, the Raptor will not be put into business. There is too much chance that the halo of invincibility created around modern American fighters will disappear in one moment.
  10. andrei332809
    andrei332809 2 October 2013 12: 45 New
    0
    Well, let's see if the "shells" are worth all the praise. Or on bv so far only beeches with tori?
    1. vadson
      vadson 2 October 2013 13: 26 New
      +2
      if you are seething and it will begin, the air defense will hardly live to see F22, they’re not suicides
    2. Basileus
      Basileus 3 October 2013 09: 36 New
      0
      The carapace is a system of a completely different level, not intended to deal with such an adversary.
  11. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 2 October 2013 13: 08 New
    +1
    allowing these aircraft to only knowingly safe flights,

    With such an external debt, are so expensive planes to destroy? No way! am
  12. andrei332809
    andrei332809 2 October 2013 13: 37 New
    +8

    so, for the mood
  13. spirit
    spirit 2 October 2013 14: 21 New
    +3
    I very much doubt that f22 with its radar will enter the affected zone of medium and short-range air defense systems (armor, etc.)
    it’s only in their films, to show off, they show how a raptor shoots at close range either aliens or Bruce Willis))))))) or there were 35 I don’t remember))))))))
  14. Curt
    Curt 2 October 2013 14: 26 New
    0
    The trick is simple: if they knock him down in combat actions - and they knock him down in love - everyone will understand that the f-22 is an expensive stealth fake, and show-off, => 1) the Americans screwed up 2) they suddenly! again lied to the whole world 3) So the 400 billionth f-35 is even more G. than the f-22 at a very decent price and no one will buy it for the poor thing)
    p. I feel that it is also stealth like f-117, and when it was lowered forcibly to sniff the ground, amers realized that their f-22 "stealth" was in their words and so they try not to shine too much in wars)
    1. maxcor1974
      maxcor1974 2 October 2013 15: 58 New
      +1
      You are right, as I already wrote, all the latest US military adventures are dictated by the influence of the bosses of their military-industrial complex on politics. Power in the states is spliced ​​with their business and fulfills their orders. War for them is an advertising campaign of new weapons. Downed Raptor is a negative advertisement (it turns out, if even it can be knocked down, then what can we say about the truncated f-35). And then there are competitors: Russians with their c-300 and t-50 on the way to the market, you scratch your head before risking such a treasure. So it’s probably premature to wait for their combat use, so fly and nerves will pat the Iranian and Syrian Mig-25, and f-15.
  15. leon-iv
    leon-iv 2 October 2013 14: 36 New
    +3
    Well sent and cho?
    Then that.
    One FIG will not be allowed into the matter. For there, our boats will be standing after fluffing up all the radar antennas. in order to remove the most complete signature of the rattles.
    + 6K that the rat is very demanding on ground infrastructure.
  16. 0255
    0255 2 October 2013 15: 01 New
    +2
    On the contrary, maybe the news is positive? It is unlikely that the F-22 will fight. As long as there is more of a politician ... they say we know, we remember, we will not forgive ... Now, if they had thrown the "Strike Needle", it would be like a sign of war. And most importantly - the news is probabilistic and more sucked from the finger. It can mean, it cannot mean ... A reason is needed for war, but it takes time to prepare it ...

    Well sent and cho?
    Then that.
    One FIG will not be allowed into the matter. For there, our boats will be standing after fluffing up all the radar antennas. in order to remove the most complete signature of the rattles.
    + 6K that the rat is very demanding on ground infrastructure.

    maybe they are making a new movie in the Middle East about the next invasion of aliens, terrorists or Russians? Where will the F-22 under the control of a Hollywood star bring down MiGs or lossless flying saucers?
  17. akv0571
    akv0571 2 October 2013 16: 15 New
    +5
    F22 is not made for close combat. All his chip in email. integration.
    Its advantage is in the middle distance, and even if powerful radars, such as Avax, are working behind
    and he does not include his radar "uses" his data. And in this case, it is really difficult to detect, but it can be detected. Plus information processing with data received from ground units and interaction on inf. level with them.
    So, if used "correctly", it is a very formidable weapon.
    1. velikoros-xnumx
      velikoros-xnumx 2 October 2013 16: 55 New
      +4
      Quote: akv0571
      if a powerful radar is working behind, for example Awax, and he does not turn on his radar "uses" his data.

      And if he flies over Papua New Guinea, if he is confronted by no more than Po-2, if the spears of local residents and slingshots of their children act as air defense means, then his chances of returning from a combat mission are really very high.
      1. nik6006
        nik6006 2 October 2013 19: 22 New
        +2
        I think that Po-2 compared to F22 is a real stealth.
    2. Locksmith
      Locksmith 2 October 2013 17: 31 New
      0
      And how will he bring up his weapon, with flags or something to transfer a semaphore to a rocket wassat Anyone who loves him will have to activate the radar and direct his own missiles to THE SAME, external guidance indicates the SECTOR where to fire, then the rocket sits in his belly and receives target designation ONLY WHEN it leaves the compartment - and this time can be used to target air defense - at this moment it will be visible even on the radars of the ancient "gums" wink
      1. poquello
        poquello 2 October 2013 20: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: Locksmith
        And how will he bring up his weapon, with flags or something to transfer a semaphore to a rocket wassat Anyone who loves him will have to activate the radar and direct his own missiles to THE SAME, external guidance indicates the SECTOR where to fire, then the rocket sits in his belly and receives target designation ONLY WHEN it leaves the compartment - and this time can be used to target air defense - at this moment it will be visible even on the radars of the ancient "gums" wink

        Well, there are probably hypothetical options, such as using an external beacon to accurately reach the point, reset, and the final target designation by satellite. After all, the Americans were practicing a surprise covert attack on Russia using (in PM) Raptors during the Chupachanga exercises.
        1. Locksmith
          Locksmith 3 October 2013 00: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: poquello
          Well, there are probably hypothetical options

          For this rattle is not needed - its main task is to work on a serious air defense system — read our complexes, but so far the amers have finished it — our air defense systems have sharpened it ... on a raptor wink , now it turns out quite ridiculous - he cannot launch a rocket without entering the zone of destruction of the air defense system, and the air defense system already sees him long before approaching and the new types of S400 can shoot at the "invisible", so just for every fireman, don't hesitate to fly nearby ... laughing
          1. poquello
            poquello 3 October 2013 18: 55 New
            +1
            "Thanks to the stealth of the F-22 and the long flight range of the GBU-39 (about 110 km), according to the American military, even S-300 complexes can be destroyed without much risk. The F-22 can safely approach the complex at a distance of 24 km, unexpectedly enter the airspace of the target by making a "jump" from ultra-low to high heights, and "scatter" bombs in the direction of the radar and air defense missile systems. "
            http://www.redstar.ru/index.php/news-menu/ino-military-menu/usarmy/item/2099-str
            ategicheskie-tseli-chimichangi

            oil painting "raptor-sower" by American war artists
  18. Alikovo
    Alikovo 2 October 2013 16: 34 New
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    in the event of an invasion of Syria it will be like in Yugoslavia: the S-75 will destroy the f-22.
    1. alone
      alone 2 October 2013 19: 47 New
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      actually in yugoslavia worked with s-125, not s-75
  19. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 2 October 2013 17: 00 New
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    As of November 2012, five F-22 Raptor fighters were lost in flight accidents:

    On April 25, 1992, the prototype YF-22A (ser. Number 87-0701) crashed while landing at Edwards Air Force Base and was decommissioned.
    December 20 2004 of the year F-22A (ser. Number 00-4014) crashed during take-off from the Nellis air base, the pilot ejected.
    On February 11, 2007, 12 F-22 fighters were unable to fly from the United States to Japan due to problems with navigation software (presumably due to the intersection of the date line in the middle of the Pacific Ocean).
    March 25 2009 year F-22A (ser. Number 91-4008) crashed in the Mojave desert of California, near the Edwards air base, during a test flight [71], 49-year-old pilot David Cooley died.
    On November 16 of November 2010, the F-22A Block 30 (ser. Number 06-4125) crashed 160 kilometers from Anchorage during a pair training flight in 19: 40 local time. The pilot - Jeffrey Haney - died. The cause of the accident was the pilot's mistake.
    On November 15 2012, the F-22 crashed on a highway in the United States. The accident occurred in the state of Florida near the US Air Force Tyndall. The pilot of the plane managed to eject.
    On December 7 2012 during the memorial ceremony marking the 71 anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor during landing, the F-22 Raptor fighter was damaged. Aircraft repair is valued at 1,8 million dollars.
    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed/Boeing_F-22_Raptor


  20. Alexei
    Alexei 2 October 2013 17: 20 New
    +3
    Somewhere in the distance, my native Texas.
    Father and mother are waiting for me at home.
    My 'Phantom' exploded quickly
    in the sky blue and clear
    I can no longer see you

    I remember this when they talk about phantoms ...
    1. turan_up
      turan_up 2 October 2013 19: 05 New
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      I see how Richard and Bob rushed to a meeting with the coffin ..
  21. me
    me 2 October 2013 17: 29 New
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    Well, it looks like the baptism of fire of the dinosaur is coming soon. It would be high time to put all the dots on the "and" and end all the disputes about what this fighter is. Syria, I think, will be just a warm-up, and then Iran and North Korea.
    1. maxcor1974
      maxcor1974 2 October 2013 19: 15 New
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      Are you laughing North Korea? Yes, their small number is not enough even for Iran. More precisely, they will end on it.
      1. clidon
        clidon 3 October 2013 05: 38 New
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        180 cars a small amount? belay
  22. turan_up
    turan_up 2 October 2013 19: 07 New
    +3
    It is better to learn to work with "our American partner" Rapter in the skies of Syria than in the skies of Russia. Therefore, let them send - the sooner we understand who we are dealing with, the sooner we will develop an enema for him.
  23. Tuzik
    Tuzik 2 October 2013 19: 56 New
    +1
    grab the heels) ours already have experience quickly grabbing airfields.
  24. andruha70
    andruha70 2 October 2013 20: 41 New
    +3
    In mid-September, the US Air Force reported that F-22s made contact with Iranian planes for the first time in history, chasing an Iranian Air Force F-4 Phantom away from an MQ-1 drone flying over the sea.
    laughing today is that day of laughter lol negotiations of the F-22 pilot with the F-4 "Phantom" ... humiliate fool, I'll tell you one clever thing, just don't be offended ... come on, I'll kind of drive you away, and you'll be scared ... I swear - and a villa - anywhere in the world ... and the attendants-wagon ... and the Bentley ... lol damn ... it's all the same that the su-35 against the instant-15 ... well, okay, okay ... don’t mock, against the instant-21 ... tongue
  25. Averias
    Averias 2 October 2013 21: 23 New
    +1
    Too high-quality photo for an amateur photographer, and the angle and distance. Again, the beginning of the article talks about one such aircraft in service with the United States. Then what kind of group can we talk about?
  26. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 2 October 2013 21: 28 New
    +1
    In principle, you can understand the guys, Vovik put the S-300 in Syria, and this is a real bias either in strength or in the faces of our overseas partners. What else remains for them to do except fall on a single argument in the form of a rapper. And a completely different question: will this hope be justified?
  27. nod739
    nod739 2 October 2013 21: 58 New
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    Quote: Alex Danilov
    What difference does it make with a pistol or chemical weapons or US cruise missiles?


    with a pistol or a rocket, you still need to aim and get there, but here - the balls - the quarter is covered - everyone died, the curtain.
  28. nod739
    nod739 2 October 2013 22: 29 New
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    Quote: nod739
    Too high-quality photo for an amateur photographer, and the angle and distance.


    ... as an amateur photographer, not having a top-notch but decent SLR, and slightly obsessed with telezoom. taking into account the blurriness of the background, etc .... I can assume that the photo was taken from a distance of 100 meters maximum
    look at that lover who was allowed to run
  29. Marconi41
    Marconi41 3 October 2013 03: 15 New
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    In what, F-22 deliver on BV! So the end of the mess is planned. After all, the United States cherishes predators and does not send them to hot spots. Syria and Iran so far can sleep peacefully. True sign !!! But if they will be taken out of there, then it will be necessary to strain. lol
  30. Vittt
    Vittt 16 October 2013 21: 27 New
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    Quote: Vadivak
    Quote: Vittt
    Do not forget, the F-117 was created thanks to the wonderful RUSSIAN genius who moved to the USA.


    "The method of boundary waves in the physical theory of diffraction", Ufimtsev P. Ya., Ed. Soviet Radio, 1962, circulation 6.5 volumes.

    That's right.