What lies behind the pseudo-Muslim screen, or guest radicalism in Moscow

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Last weekend on the Web, namely on Youtube, a video appeared and quickly spread around Runet. This is just a three-minute video, the title of which “Military Review” will not bring, in order not to organize advertising for him. To make it clear what the explicitly provocative video is about, we will provide its text description in this material.

After the completion of the traditional prayer, believers begin to leave the door of one of the mosques located in Moscow (Otradnoe). Everyone begins to descend from the steps and disperse, when suddenly a young man, dressed in a black jacket and a black hat, separates from the crowd, and in bad Russian begins to “broadcast” about how hard it is for Muslims to live in Russia, as Muslim women do not allow Hijabs, as representatives of the Russian special services, are killing "innocent brothers" in the North Caucasus. Already at the end of the first minute of his “preaching” a young man, to whose words the crowd began to listen, issued the main thesis of his speech: Russia is an unfriendly state towards Islam, and the “brothers” should understand this.

After that, the first exclamations “Allah Akbar!” Sounded in the crowd, which suggested that either a young man in this very crowd managed to place peculiar heralds in different parts of it, or the crowd managed to perceive the “speaker” as a “speaker”.



Next, the speaker touched historical retrospectives, “telling” the audience that at one time in Russia people threw into the rivers those who did not want to abandon the Muslim religion, and that Russia needs to be punished for this today. Continuing his speech, the young man, moving from Russian to Arabic and vice versa, trying to quote the Qur'an, reminded spontaneously gathered that “an Islamic caliphate is not far off,” and that the “brothers” should help the caliphate as soon as they can. About a hundred people with half-open mouths looked at everything that was happening, some took out mobile phones and began to take a “speaker” on video, five or six people tried hard to enrage the crowd with cries of “Allahu akbar!” It didn’t work out particularly well, people began to slowly reach out from the territory adjacent to the religious institution, but the main goal - a provocative throw-in - was already achieved.

It would seem that only, forgive, my God, there is no content in YouTube, and why you should pay attention to the essence of this three-minute provocative video. The reason is simple: radical puppets, who clearly behave in a staged manner, bringing other people's words and appeals to people, and trying with all their might to identify themselves with the faithful Muslims, having nothing in common with them, are doing everything to organize a clash of entire confessions and ethnic groups foreheads. They do everything to provoke large-scale chaos, capable, like an explosion, to be born after even the smallest spark jumps. Is it possible to turn a blind eye to this? I think no. It is impossible not only because it happens in the center of Russia, but also because people are ready to listen to lies, hanging their ears and opening their mouths, perceiving outright lies as pure coin.

The described “speaker” did everything according to the laws of clumsy, but no less effective, provocation: the beginning was about the murder of the “brother”, the continuation was about “persecution of Muslims in Russia”, the end was calls to action. Muslims who are well acquainted with writing (not through third mouths and ears) and the real geopolitical situation in the country will send this speaker to three Russians and funny ones. But people who are used to accept only interpretations will become fertile ground for such preachers. Is it not after such “express sermons” that people find themselves in the camps for training terrorists? Isn’t it not after these speeches that they tie themselves with death belts and go kill those who “belittle the Islamic faith”?

We must not forget that the purpose of this video is not only the one hundred people gathered in the courtyard of the mosque, but also millions of Internet users. Already (in just a couple of days of his presence on the Web), more than 18000 people watched the video (this is only on Youtube), a certain percentage of whom “liked” the “express-preaching”. Radicals are doing their job, trying to powder the brains of numerous Russian (and not only Russian) Muslims with the lie that Russia is putting pressure on Islam. And the more “likes”, the more chances for radicals to recruit new cannon fodder for cloning chaos around the world. Only those users (viewers, readers, listeners) who are very far from both the ideas of Islam itself and in general from common sense can believe in the “noodles” that Muslims are oppressed in Russia.

In Russia, according to studies of sociological services, 7% of the population call themselves Muslims - more than 10 million people. Representatives of the Muslim clergy say that this figure is somewhat underestimated, and that the real number of Muslims in the Russian Federation is at least 60% more — over 16 million people (every 9 is Russian). The number of mosques and Muslim centers in the country has grown more than 22 times in the last 70 of the year! Muslim clergymen, representatives of other religions systematically meet not only with each other, but also with representatives of the authorities, conveying to them their vision of solutions to various problems.

What does the phrase “Russia is an unfriendly state in relation to Islam” mean if Islam is one of the mass religions in our country ... The thesis “Russia attacks Muslims” is akin to the thesis that a person constantly beats his arm or leg they don’t like it to me ... Obviously, all these words are aimed at those who, to put it mildly, are not familiar with the ethnic and confessional composition of our country, who are little acquainted with anything, cooking in their porridge seasoned with radical provocateurs and the desire to find is possible for self-expression.

PS I would like to contact the moderators and administrators of the www.youtube.com service that hosts the frankly extremist video: guys, you turned off the comments on this video - well done, but what prevents you from deleting the video itself is the video garbage, which can eventually lead to such consequences, from which entire regions of the world are shaken. The corresponding request (already with an indication of the video that incites interfaith strife) was sent directly to Youtube. After 5 hours after the request, the video was not deleted.
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  1. vadimus
    +102
    2 October 2013 08: 08
    Full of work for the special services, and it's time to change the laws. Enough to shield this mraz-otu, otherwise it will turn into a big blood ....
    1. +192
      2 October 2013 08: 24
      Australia issued a decree on September 20, which states that Muslims who wish to live in Australia under Sharia law will have to leave this country because the government is threatened by this category of citizens, reports Uainfo.

      This decree is addressed, as noted in the press, to Arab-Muslim immigrants.

      The day after "a group of moderate Muslims", at a special meeting with Australian Prime Minister John Howard, took the oath of allegiance to Australia and the Queen, Howard and his ministers made an unequivocal statement that the full weight of the law would fall on those who were so impressed. " extremists. " Treasury Secretary Peter Costello, believed to be Howard's successor as prime minister, hinted that some sheikhs may be asked to leave the country if they don’t come to terms with the fact that "Australia is a secular state in which laws are passed by parliament."

      "If these values ​​are not yours, if you want to live in a country ruled by Sharia law, or in a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," Costello said on state television. "I would tell the clerics who teach that there are two systems of law in Australia - Australian and Islamic, that this is a lie. If you cannot agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy and prefer Sharia law and can leave for another country - probably , this is the best option, "he said unequivocally. Costello said that holders of dual citizenship may be asked to leave for the country of their second citizenship.

      In turn, Defense Secretary Brendan Nelson told reporters that Muslims who do not want to accept local values ​​should "get out." “Basically, people who don't want to be Australians and who don't want to live up to Australian values ​​and understand them, well, they can get out,” he said.

      "Immigrants, not Australians, have to adapt. Take it or get out. I'm tired of our country having to constantly worry about whether we offend some people or their culture," Brendan Nelson said. “We speak mostly English, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian or any other language. So if you want to become a part of our society, learn our language!”.

      "Most Australians believe in God. This is not some kind of Christian, right-wing, political doctrine, but a fact, because Christian men and women created this country on Christian principles, and this is clearly recorded in the documents. Of course, it is appropriate to put it on our walls. schools. If God offends you, then I suggest that you consider the possibility of moving to another part of the world, because God is part of our culture, "he stressed.
      1. +112
        2 October 2013 08: 31
        So in Russia it is necessary to issue the same decree as in Australia and to stop any sharia creeps, otherwise these bearded men are already at every step, and their goals are somehow far from peaceful, as if the country's leadership would not be too late ...
        1. rinat1955
          -79
          2 October 2013 09: 40
          You can issue such a decree ... and remain within the borders of the Moscow state (between the rivers Wolves and Oka) to lose Siberia Volga, the Caucasus.
          Have you even considered your suggestions a step? Maybe this Uzbek provocateur is counting on just such a reaction?
          What do you think that garbage like the Caucasus will be held in the Volga region? Or in Siberia?
          1. +78
            2 October 2013 10: 35
            And you can NOT issue such a decree and remain not only without the interfluve of the Volga and Oka, but also without Russia as such! Indulgence in Muslim chauvinism and fascism, a policy of appeasement will not lead to anything good. Aggressive fanatics do not accept any arguments other than arguments for strength and to show weakness now means to lose the country in the future. RUSSIA-A SECOND STATE! RELIGIOUS FANATISTS OF ANY CONFESSIONS - GO OUT OF THE COUNTRY!
            1. rinat1955
              -29
              2 October 2013 11: 27
              Secular say ... you go to the site of any Moscow city council, and see how the work on the construction of churches in each district is carried out. And then remember the mayor’s widely publicized declarations on the construction of mosques.
              Secular, I must say ...
              1. POBEDA
                +9
                4 October 2013 00: 47
                Before the revolution, Moscow had 2 mosques, and now 6. How many Orthodox churches were in Moscow before the revolution? That's right, about 1.5 thousand. And now about 300 .... Catch? There were 3 times more mosques, and 5 times less Orthodox churches .... And who should be indignant? AND?
              2. +1
                8 October 2013 13: 23

                rinat1955? Yes, secular, and the construction of Christian churches does not detract from the faith of other peoples. Christianity has never oppressed other religions. During the reign of Emperor Nicholas II, mosques and Buddhist temples were built in Russia ... Russia has always stood on the foundation of Orthodoxy for at least 1000 years. All peoples, including Muslim and Buddhist, were part of the Russian state and thanked the Tsar for this, calling him the White Tsar. And those renegades who talk about Islam, in fact, do not know the Koran or the instructions of their ancestors.
                In their jihad tactics against the whole world, they use extremist teachings - Wahhabism, which have nothing to do with real Islam.
                And I do not want to live under the threat of death from some neurotics. So with such throats you need to handle accordingly.
            2. +9
              2 October 2013 12: 25
              You lack the White General, capable of hitting the Basurmans.
              1. +1
                8 October 2013 17: 27
                There aren’t enough normal, competent special services that can solve the problem quietly, without advertising, and without straining the population.
            3. Avenger711
              +26
              2 October 2013 15: 00
              Ideally, provocateurs are best eliminated. So that everyone knows that it is liquidated, but formally, like an accident.
          2. +44
            2 October 2013 11: 29
            Quote: rinat1955
            You can issue such a decree ...

            Not possible, but necessary. And there will be nothing. For centuries, everyone in Russia lived together peacefully, without mutual religious claims. Just now, some Muslims are slightly overwhelmed, feeling the weakness of power.
            1. rinat1955
              -26
              2 October 2013 12: 19
              Naturally .. only not the authorities in Russia but Russia itself.
              The people do not want to multiply, they don’t want to serve in the army, they don’t want to work on the earth ... what does the government have to do with it?
              1. +15
                2 October 2013 20: 29
                You aren’t the same provocateur as this speaker from YouTube. You’re not knowing what. You’ve already washed your brain. I don’t like the Afghan waiting here.
              2. +1
                4 October 2013 17: 44
                rinat1955
                I have been working since 15 years, because I think so right.
                And I can’t reproduce, not because I don’t want to, but because unlike you I probably have too many brains and I’m thinking not only about how to climb on anyone, but it seems to me that this is very different from an animal.
            2. +28
              2 October 2013 12: 33
              Quote: IRBIS
              Just now, some Muslims are slightly overwhelmed, feeling the weakness of power.

              Right. But even without any new decrees, this provocateur must be found by the police or FSB officers, convicted to the maximum with media coverage and sent to a colony in a region with the most "resort" climate. And, as they say, so be it with everyone!
            3. 0
              8 October 2013 16: 40
              IRBIS, how can you not understand that those Muslims who, in your opinion, have become obnoxious, have nothing to do with Islam, in fact, in its classical form. These so-called "Muslims" only hide behind their faith in Allah, but in fact they are supporters of the Wahhabist movement that rejects real Islam, killing and persecuting muftis and others who consider Islam their religion and do not want to do evil to all who are not Muslims ... Islam, which at its core has hatred of all non-Muslims, ceases to be Islam, but becomes a reactionary sect.
              But, really, now the government must show an iron will and put things in order in this very difficult matter. No more time!
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          4. +37
            2 October 2013 13: 10
            And what, with us, Russians and Orthodox Christians live only within the "Moscow principality", and all around are Muslims? Huh? Nobody crushes Muslims, crushes Islamists and crushes correctly. Evil at the millions of migrants from Asia (any religion) and rightly evil - there is no need for so many of them. You just have to live with your faith and not push it out for or without reason.
          5. +18
            2 October 2013 14: 51
            And why did you decide that he is Uzbek? By the face of the person, it can be anyone, even Tatar - but by vocation, and state of mind - obvious u-b-l-u-d-o-k ...

            So don't ... don't ...
          6. +14
            2 October 2013 17: 43
            Quote: rinat1955
            ... lose Siberia Volga

            Quote: rinat1955
            What do you think that garbage like the Caucasus will be held in the Volga region? Or in Siberia?

            What nonsense are you talking about ??? I don’t know how they will deal with this with their own hemorrhoids, but I have confidence that in Siberia we will solve this problem if we jump by ourselves! I'm talking about Muslims and their impudent behavior, ala new crusaders! People only need to be warmed up, then Muslims, who cannot understand what, will rush from here ahead of the engine by running on the railroad ties !!!
            1. +2
              3 October 2013 17: 01
              Calm down! Although I’m a hot head, I’m not as successful as the others.

              Remembering what my great-grandfather, grandfather and father said, as well as the policy that they are now implementing, I will say: "They reap what they have sown."
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          8. +2
            2 October 2013 19: 46
            Quote: rinat1955
            What do you think that garbage like the Caucasus will be held in the Volga region? Or in Siberia?


            Who should they ask what will happen and what will not? The law will be accepted and be kindly executed.
          9. +4
            2 October 2013 21: 33
            It’s interesting that you can even show this Siberia on a map, or what religion the population of this territory adheres to
          10. 0
            4 October 2013 14: 02
            Rinat - pack your things and move to a Muslim country! And Russia, which is historically built as a lot of a confessional state, we somehow defend!
          11. +1
            5 October 2013 13: 20
            Siberia do not offend. Most Orthodox + Old Believers ... And other religions are always treated with understanding.
          12. Rusich51
            +1
            6 October 2013 12: 13
            rinat1955
            In the interfluve, not all rams can actually be put in order. Muslims themselves will support us. And about the garbage in the Caucasus is not necessary, shaving with ameramim worked there specifically.
        2. +25
          2 October 2013 09: 40
          Quote: ia-ai00
          So in Russia it is necessary to issue the same decree,

          Work with Muslims in Russia is very painstaking here you can’t go too far and give slack too.
          In Russia, the state must secure the right of the people to believe in classical Islam, historical for this area, and strictly support it. Do not allow and suppress all kinds of new Islamists and preachers from abroad.
          When local Muslims understand that the state supports them, then a turning point will come!
          1. rinat1955
            +12
            2 October 2013 11: 25
            The authorities do not care ... are you aware that in Kazan, in the main mosque of Kul Sharif, as of the beginning of last year, Wahhabi was the main mullah?
            And the authorities do not care ...
            1. timer
              +15
              2 October 2013 23: 45
              What are you talking about - I myself live in Kazan, I go to this mosque. He is the same Wahhabi as you are a Chinese. and in general, I read the posts of some, they write such nonsense that at least stand at least fall.
          2. timer
            +25
            2 October 2013 23: 39
            I myself am a Muslim and I think that in Russia it is necessary to support traditional Islam. Do not send spiritual preachers for internship to the Saudis. They will be brainwashed in the spirit of Wahhabism, and the mullah is ready to propagate a direction that is alien to us Muslims in Islam! I believe that it is necessary to train your preachers in our country, and not listen to the dogmas of foreign preachers and extremists straighten with an iron hand.
            1. Rusich51
              +2
              6 October 2013 12: 17
              Quote: timer
              I myself am a Muslim and I think that in Russia it is necessary to support traditional Islam. Do not send spiritual preachers for internship to the Saudis. They will be brainwashed in the spirit of Wahhabism, and the mullah is ready to propagate a direction that is alien to us Muslims in Islam! I believe that it is necessary to train your preachers in our country, and not listen to the dogmas of foreign preachers and extremists straighten with an iron hand.


              My friend Tatar, a real Russian man. He thinks about the same way. These are the Muslims who must live in our country.
              1. 0
                8 October 2013 10: 32
                Russian - what, and not a nation, ethnos. Russian Tatar, Jew, German, Moldovan (my father-in-law, born in Siberia), and I think to myself - Pomor! But Russian.
            2. 0
              8 October 2013 17: 54
              Finally, a robust Muslim who does not shy away from his own religion, and, moreover, expresses sound ideas. Yes, with the current technologies of brainwashing and brainwashing the population, they went over the hill of the most devout Christian from him, if desired, they would make an extremist with any religion necessary. Consequently, the state, including religious, should be engaged in the upbringing and education of its citizens. There will be fewer problems.
        3. +48
          2 October 2013 09: 49
          Quote: ia-ai00
          So in Russia it is necessary to issue the same decree as in Australia and to stop any sharia creeps, otherwise these bearded men are already at every step, and their goals are somehow far from peaceful, as if the country's leadership would not be too late ...

          Decree! ... We Russians, Medvedev offers to leave their homes in search of work and wander around Russia in search of work. And our houses, apparently, will be given to Muslim visitors. Therefore, the Putin authorities accept them with such "cordiality". All newcomers, subject to certain conditions, have the right to become citizens of Russia in the future and acquire the right to vote. Isn't this the goal of the Putin regime?
          1. t-95-70
            -12
            2 October 2013 11: 07
            Well, here you are, and another provocateur, dear, they are trying to undermine the situation on the other side, and you are on whose side? From the west?
            1. Gul
              Gul
              +4
              2 October 2013 14: 28
              On the part of common sense, fortifier.
            2. -5
              2 October 2013 14: 54
              Quote: t-95-70
              and which side are you on? From the west?

              Who still does not know, comrade Compound feed writes to us from our beloved SyShyA. When the red flags are finally canceled, the administration ??? And then the people are plus the American provocateurs and have no idea !!
          2. +18
            2 October 2013 14: 19
            Yes .... ... they are already for the most part - "Russians", but the Russians only promise to make it easier to obtain citizenship, the Russians are mostly law-abiding, and all these Wahhabbit bandits - who bought IT, who forged documents ...
            All the time, I have a feeling that something is wrong with Putin ..., A DARK HORSE. A lot of what he does is respect, and sometimes admiration, but here it is dual policy in relation to punishing people for crimes, according to the principle: - YOURS - not your own, "concessions" of the Russian Lands, connivance at the OCCUPATION of Russia by illegal immigrants from all over the world, to put it mildly, I do not understand.
            A few years ago, when you go to visit relatives or on a business trip, then with some trepidation you wait for a "meeting" with Moscow. But 2 years ago I arrived ... and it felt uncomfortable, but now, when you see what is going on there on the days of the holidays of this "brotherhood", you fall into despondency ...
        4. don.kryyuger
          +9
          2 October 2013 11: 10
          It’s not, eacon, it’s just a statement of the first persons of the country. It is true, I also read it.
        5. +18
          2 October 2013 12: 20
          Absolutely agree dude!
          The principle should be like this - Don't like it? Get out!
        6. +14
          2 October 2013 12: 26
          <<< ia-ai00 KZ
          in Russia, it is necessary to issue the same decree as in Australia and to suppress any encroachments of the Sharia, >>>
          We do not need the same decree, but a decree that takes into account that Muslims have been living in Russia since ancient times, preaching traditional Islam, which rejects extremism. Today, Saudi Arabia, the main sponsor of radical Islam around the world, with the support of the West, is attacking this traditional Islam, referring ultimately to the destruction of Russia. It is necessary for the state to help our Islam defend itself against this extremist infection. This decree should put an end to the invasion and strengthening of the radical movements of Islam, alien and hostile to Russia, and their adherents. All this extremist scum must be CLEANED!
          1. +11
            2 October 2013 15: 18
            I mean it. Traditional Islam has never caused me negative. Christians and Muslims have lived side by side since tsarist times, and to this day, thank God and did not interfere with each other. I wonder how radicals from different countries are LOWING into Russia, these are GANGS!
        7. +13
          2 October 2013 20: 00
          Eh, gentlemen will not work! For one simple reason that we, the Orthodox, have coexisted with people professing Islam for more than one century. And before perestroika, they did not grieve, and ate bacon together, eating a glass of vodka, and went to visit each other, and the Russians lived quietly in the North Caucasus. What happened? And in my opinion, what happened is that the weakness of the government gave rise to Islamic extremism, the openness of the borders of the state - the invasion from Saudi Arabia of "preachers" of various kinds, along with money for which they buy young people who have been left without work due to lack of work, and from here we got extremist-minded people professing Islam. And these "preachers", judging by this video, continue to work on the territory of Russia, and they will again and again find young people who will stand under their banners, then make a walking bomb out of them and send them to blow up people. And this will continue as long as young people in the North Caucasus are idle and idle, work.
          1. +2
            3 October 2013 17: 49
            Uh, gentlemen, it won’t work! For one simple reason that we Orthodox
            And you, Mr. Orthodox vkurse, how many bald scum (which you have on your avatrack) killed the Orthodox. Not a single Orthodox could put a photo of Lenin on his profile picture.
            while in the North Caucasus youth will stick around idle, work
            There are so many Russians wandering around without work, but for some reason they don’t go into the forests by Wahhabis. The thing is not at work.
          2. 0
            7 October 2013 10: 08
            They don’t want to work like that ... they want to drive around at a tinted priore.
        8. -1
          3 October 2013 13: 06
          So in Russia it is necessary to issue the same decree as in Australia and to stop any sharia creeps, otherwise these bearded men are already at every step, and their goals are somehow far from peaceful, as if the country's leadership would not be too late ...
          Yes, we have no power! Not really is still not clear to anyone. There is a gang of traitors sold with offal which you need to transplant everyone!
        9. gsg955
          +1
          3 October 2013 13: 50
          Try to make this speech in the Caucasus and find out who is really oppressing.
        10. +4
          3 October 2013 15: 33
          We have a free religion in the constitution. The main thing is that religion does not contradict the criminal code and does not provoke interethnic and interreligious conflicts.
          Shariah (Arabic: شريعة [ʃariːʕa (tun)] - (correct) path, mode of action) - a set of legal, canonically traditional, moral, ethical and religious norms of Islam, covering a significant part of the life of a Muslim and proclaimed in Islam as “eternal and immutable "divine institution; one of the confessional forms of religious law.
          Time and place of occurrence - VII — XII centuries, Caliphate.
          Sharia rests on the Qur'an and the Sunnah; includes elements of constitutional, civil, criminal, administrative, family and procedural law, as well as moral, ethical and behavioral norms (courtesy norms) without any detailed separation. As far as I understand the classic breadth - this is not extremism. This means that it should not be prohibited. A burqa is, of course, an excess, but the ban on alcohol and other toxic substances (tobacco and drugs), as well as the ban on usury (interest-free loans are cool) can be borrowed from there.
          An ideal way out: peaceful coexistence of religions under the general control of the council of the highest clergy of all faiths, followed by the creation of a unique single religion in Russia: In the end, God is one and who we are to decide who is better and who is worse for him.
          1. 0
            3 October 2013 21: 20
            Russian_Prapor
            In the end, God is one and who we are to decide for him who is better and who is worse.

            Gold words!!!!!
      2. v.lyamkin
        +14
        2 October 2013 09: 15
        Thank you for the comments given in the comment. You can’t say better. It would be nice to hang this text (replacing the name of the state if necessary) in the arrival halls at airports and railway stations. And when passing through customs and border procedures, take a subscription to agree with what has been read, otherwise just return it.
        1. DuraLexSedLex.
          +26
          2 October 2013 11: 14
          My comment has been deleted for impulsiveness, but worth repeating!
          It all happened in Otradnoye, not in Chechnya, not in Dagestan, nor even in Tatarstan, but in Moscow! In the capital of our Motherland. According to official estimates, officially about 10 million people live in Moscow. man, in practice, the figure is about 22 million. NEREZINOVAYA (Moscow) has hosted a lot of migrants, both from Central Asia and the Caucasus (the entire Caucasus, and not just the north), of which 90% are Muslims, the percentage of education among them is 10-15% with higher education, and the rest are high school not finished (especially for individuals from Central Asia).
          CONCLUSION: We have here and now, a real ethnic and interfaith crisis, which will result in a real explosion, and Moscow will be washed in blood. We will get the present. "islamic education"like" infidels ", it will be explosions, killings on ethnic grounds (the local population, that is, Muscovites will be cut out), arson of Christian churches and shrines, rape and robbery. The authorities will sit quietly thrusting their tongues much deeper and not paying attention because they ( power) bought with giblets.
          I don’t know about you, but I don’t need such a ****.
          1. IRON_MAN
            +1
            3 October 2013 06: 02
            How is your post different from the words of this "speaker"? !! Only Muslims were exchanged for Christians and Muscovites. The statistics cite that the illiterate, yes, mostly illiterate. So these illiterate people listened and started to disperse, and here they add to you who are literate.
            The article is very correct, objective and without hysteria (unlike your post). It is necessary to fight against Wahhabism, the most severe means! Especially in the Caucasus, there is already a mullah as a sapper, every day can be the last. They are afraid to openly oppose the radicals, because the authorities absolutely do not protect them! But do not bother all Islam to the heap, it is really dangerous for the integrity of the state! I read a lot of posts, when people have one kind of mosque or a person performing a prayer causes subliminal fear and hysteria ...
            1. DuraLexSedLex.
              0
              3 October 2013 09: 53
              My post leads the facts are incontrovertible (at the expense of the population and migrants). I can add one more fact: more than 50% of crimes in Moscow and the Moscow Region are committed by visitors, 80% of them are migrants.
              At the expense of illiteracy it is said in this article itself:
              - "Muslims who are well acquainted with scripture (not through third mouths and ears) and the real geopolitical situation in the country will send this speaker to three Russians and merry ... But people who are accustomed to perceive only interpretations will become fertile ground for this kind of preachers Is it not after such "express sermons" that people end up in terrorist training camps. "

              How many Tajiks-Uzbeks-Kyrgyz-Turkmen are familiar with the scripture? I doubt that they can read something, but there are many such "guests here." If you are happy about their dominance in all regions and regions of the Russian Federation, then you are not sorry. Do not forget, I did not interfere with Islam with Wahhabism.
              And about my conclusion, we all know what happened in Chechnya, they cut Russians, survived from their homes and drove them out, this could happen here.
              PSPersona from your profile picture, clearly knew what to do and in what form with this kind of dominance of crime.
              1. IRON_MAN
                0
                3 October 2013 16: 06
                "Moscow will be washed in blood"; "And about my conclusion, so we all know what happened in Chechnya, Russians were slaughtered, survived from their homes and expelled, this can happen here."; "If you are glad of their dominance in all regions and regions RF, then not sorry for you. " ))) You'd better have pity on yourself, with such a phobia you don't even need to leave your home and don't turn on the TV / Internet)) According to statistics, every FOURTH offense in Moscow is committed by visitors (according to a police press secretary (if you prefer statistics from ultra-right websites or articleek who knows who on the Internet, your right)). This is about "irrefutable evidence")) Who commits 3 out of 4 offenses? ... Why no one is hysterical "Every 3 out of 4 crimes in Moscow are committed by native Muscovites of Slavic appearance !!!!! angry "Or is your own shirt closer to the body?))
                There is a problem and it is growing! It should be decided by the authorities at all levels. I am only talking about the fact that there is no need to sprinkle "blood will wash" "burning churches" and add babies on the pitchfork! )) Fair, balanced decisions (like in Australia) will be supported by Muslims themselves, first of all, believe me.
            2. +2
              5 October 2013 15: 43
              I wonder what kind of reaction would be in countries, where did you come from faithfulif they began to build Orthodox Temples on every corner, and during the days of church holidays would the AVALANCHE walk in their MILESTONES along their avenues? Moreover, they began to read sermons in the squares and say how bad the people are here! Can you imagine this? And why is it possible in Russia on the contrary?
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      4. +24
        2 October 2013 09: 44
        Something I urgently wanted to Australia good
      5. +22
        2 October 2013 09: 45
        Well done Australians, one of the first at a high level, boldly declare this, although they themselves are a country of migrants.
        1. +11
          2 October 2013 10: 38
          Australians well done.
          Our government is able to adopt any Western experience unfit for Russia. They do not seem to know about the Paris events. Do not know? Australia is the antipode. Why consider their experience? Like, we ourselves with a mustache. Here are just a real fight against extremism.
        2. don.kryyuger
          +1
          2 October 2013 11: 14
          Australia-countries of the Katarjan. There Britain referred its subjects for the development of the mainland.
      6. +28
        2 October 2013 09: 59

        Those statesmen of Australia that you mentioned in your comment are real citizens of their country.
        This can not be said about Putin, Medvedev, Kremlin sitters, members of the government, deputies of the Duma and members of the Federation Council. They are citizens of those countries to which they sold offal. In banks which hide their accounts. They are citizens of those countries where their children live and study and spend their wife’s stolen money. They are citizens of those countries where they bought houses, villas, cottages, apartments and yachts. They are citizens of those countries where Russian oil is pumped to, where Russian gas goes and where Russian natural resources are sold for nothing. They are citizens of those countries where their company cars are produced. They are citizens of those countries where the money of the Reserve Fund is transferred. They are citizens of anything, but not Russia.
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        2. +8
          2 October 2013 11: 44
          Very accurately said. Everything is just like that. Foreigners rule us. They can not be called Russians.
        3. SASCHAmIXEEW
          0
          3 October 2013 12: 46
          Call a spade a spade! They all sold themselves to the "golden calf", that is, the Jewish Code, and it has been against RUSSIA for centuries !!! They are P.R.E.D.A.T.E.L. AND ... !!! ALL!!! Everyone through the court and the confiscation zone anywhere, only out of RUSSIA !!!
      7. smiths xnumx
        +2
        2 October 2013 11: 34
        The "civilized cream of the world" has played out in tolerance. We all said "soon, soon". This "soon" also came. Islamists create their own police units and patrols that attack citizens, openly kill government officials and non-believers. And all this against the background of multiculturalism, tolerance and religious tolerance.
        I don’t see a normal way out of this situation yet. Drive such monkeys back into the ghetto, reservations, introduce new slavery? Certainly not. Forced resettlement of them on uninhabited territories? So they will breed there in anger and go to war. And just as criminals, the Western world refuses to accept them. Say, there are racial prejudices.
        I am against tolerance in all its manifestations. And I’ll call Kami. A couple of days before the murder of a soldier, in one English town, the City Council decided not to raise the national flag, so as not to hurt the feelings of Muslim gentlemen, the most interesting thing is that Muslims did not even stutter about offended feelings. The state bodies themselves are being proactive, they are not doing this because of gagging or excesses on the ground, no, this is an absolutely thought-out state policy. Even royal guardsmen were allowed to wear a turban instead of traditional tall bear caps (liberty is unprecedented if you know the commitment of the British to traditions), and you can’t wear a cross in the workplace. Shariah patrols oversee some areas of East London quite freely. Impose their orders to local residents. The attack in Vulich, of course, was another proof of the failure of the policy of multiculturalism in Europe. The extremely liberal approach to the integration of migrants in European societies, the reluctance to cover up radical mosques (which became the center of life for a number of Muslim communities that were unable or unwilling to integrate) led to serious ideological conflicts between visiting Muslims and local Europeans. The result of these conflicts was the “war of the suburbs” in Paris, the riots in Sweden and the terrorist attack in Great Britain, and, on the other hand, the strengthening of extreme right-wing forces in Europe and the appearance of Breivik. If the authorities do not initiate a program for the integration of migrants based on the principle once proclaimed by Nicolas Sarkozy (“respect our laws and customs, and if they do not suit you, then return to where you came from”)

        This is a screen saver from the Facebook page of the Islamic Al-Aqsa Brigades (not to be confused with the Palestinian Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade). Al-Aqsa Islamic Brigades are a small group fighting in Syria as part of the Free Syrian Army.
      8. +10
        2 October 2013 12: 33
        dudes are just fine fellows (especially the Minister of Defense), like the same Anglo-Saxons, but still not the ones without their stupid political correctness. Respect and respect. The truth is, the conditions are different in many ways, everything is so neglected, many of the powers that be are just pissing.
      9. Avenger711
        -5
        2 October 2013 15: 02
        And here you can create a list of unwanted nationalities to the heap.
        1. 0
          8 October 2013 18: 04
          You can't call smart, I have a bunch of friends of different nationalities. Am I against them, I am against the non-indigenous peoples of Russia, in the current sense, and even then when there are a lot of them through.
      10. +4
        2 October 2013 15: 36
        How would Australian values ​​be instilled in our country!
        1. 0
          2 October 2013 17: 07
          Elementary Watson! Change something for something! (Well this is no offense, Eugene)
      11. +1
        3 October 2013 19: 46
        hi
        And it is necessary to pull out such speakers - demagogues from the crowd and to the wall!
        Immediately, such guests in Russia would be reduced ...

      12. 0
        4 October 2013 17: 08
        Why did no one crack this mountain ram in the horns?
      13. VladimirD
        +1
        4 October 2013 19: 55
        If anything, Australia was created by convicts who BUSHMENOV, as they called them, drove all kinds of criminals to the Anglo-Saxons on the reservation !!! And in turn, criminals created what we are observing now. To the article, as well as INDIANS in America, they destroyed. a small letter because it is a country of migrants. There, before they arrived, the Incas lived. Apachei, Delaware, why were they killed? And no one speaks for Australia in the media ??? WHY ??? Question asked ,,,,,,, ,,
    2. +12
      2 October 2013 08: 30
      Is it not after such "express sermons" that people find themselves in terrorist training camps


      They find themselves there due to lack of upbringing and education, if the family clearly makes it clear what Islam is and what it really calls for and what it teaches, then such "preachers" would simply be stoned ... We must work in all directions specifically for prevention. Special services, educational institutions, clergy and, most importantly, FAMILY should work. This is the only way to prevent fratricidal war. And the word "brothers" was narrowed down by this "preacher". We are all brothers, brothers in our Fatherland, our ancestors shed blood together in the fields of the Great Patriotic War, fought together in Afghanistan, together fought and are fighting terrorism in the Caucasus ... Everyone should remember this. We are strong when we are one.
      1. rinat1955
        +22
        2 October 2013 10: 05
        You read that the mullahs of the European muftiate of the Russian Federation write ... there is a shooting of authoritative muftis adhering to the Islam traditional for the Russian Federation, instead of them, there are Wahhabis. But the secret services are silent.
    3. +15
      2 October 2013 09: 01
      Completeness to you! The current special services are utterly rotten, interested in radicalism, terrorism, etc. took place to be. They feed from this. From the top, cut the allocated dough, to the very bottom. Plus, the fight against terror is additional powers and untied hands. Only all this is used not to burn out the filth, but to have options for "resolving issues."
      1. t-95-70
        +3
        2 October 2013 11: 10
        and you are apparently a specialist in the current intelligence services? Or feed yourself? You dear, learn to answer for yourself. And do not dirty those guys who in the Caucasus carry out their tasks
    4. artemiy
      +7
      2 October 2013 09: 28
      This is a direct incitement to ethnic hatred! Need to plant!
      1. 0
        2 October 2013 09: 47
        Not plant, but quietly hint that "again and more than once", otherwise you can disappear without a trace ...
      2. +27
        2 October 2013 10: 12
        For inciting ethnic hatred in Russia, they plant Russians.
        1. +20
          2 October 2013 10: 38
          +100500
          "I am Caucasian" is a national self-identification, "I am Russian" is a fascist slogan, almost "Sieg Heil".
          1. Lakkuchu
            +3
            2 October 2013 12: 59
            You are exaggerating. More than once I met guys with T-shirts "I am Russian", they walk calmly, no one grabs them, does not twist their hands, does not put their faces on the asphalt. Every year, nationalistic "Russian marches" are held, no one forbids, does not accelerate, but just try to hint about holding, for example, a "Dagestan march" in Makhachkala, then they will write to the extremists, you will be blacklisted and the end will be one ... The inscription "I am Caucasian" there can be no national self-identification, there is no such nation as Caucasians. By the way, it is much more common to meet guys from the North Caucasus wearing T-shirts with the inscription "Russia".
        2. Gul
          Gul
          +4
          2 October 2013 14: 33
          Yeah, for 282, two thousand gullies hover ... and someone says that the special services do not work.
          ,
    5. 0
      2 October 2013 09: 44
      Lord, do not panic, the fashion of religion will pass soon, because it is a pure business, religion at the dawn of mankind was created to manipulate the moloobrazovannym masses. And with nationalists by law and without amnesties.
      1. Gul
        Gul
        0
        2 October 2013 14: 36
        Ah well done, where did you come from, from Shatoy?
    6. +14
      2 October 2013 11: 25
      Quote: vadimus
      Full of work for the special services, and it's time to change the laws. Enough to shield this mraz-otu, otherwise it will turn into a big blood ....

      And the question to these services is - why is this type still not lying around, blood-sobbing, in the detention center cell? After all, there is an article. Or only Russian Ivan can pass through it?
      1. rinat1955
        0
        2 October 2013 11: 31
        The problem is that this type is not afraid of spitting blood ... and 10 more will crawl out instead, the same ones, you will start to knit him, and the same shpendric tomorrow this video will be immediately on the net ... reaction, bloody reaction, yourself count.
        1. SIT
          +12
          2 October 2013 12: 29
          Quote: rinat1955
          The problem is that this type is not afraid of spitting blood ... and instead of it another 10 will crawl out, the same ones, you will start to knit him, and the same shpendrik tomorrow this video is right there on the net ...

          So what? Is it difficult to replace rusty wire in Vorkutalag or is navigation in Magadan closed? Meticulously, thoroughly, strictly according to the Law, judge and send for imprisonment not to Chechnya, but to Susuman, Galim, Dukat. And in addition to the videos with the delay, still twist the rollers from the places of their rest, when there under -50 is fucking. Let them catch up in screams, but everyone in the world should clearly understand Article 282 in Russia, this is a ticket to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and only poor health in Vorkuta. Pontov will decrease for everyone.
          1. Gul
            Gul
            -2
            2 October 2013 14: 38
            Well, you proposed, and who, for your FSE, will give 140% of the vote?
          2. SASCHAmIXEEW
            0
            3 October 2013 13: 43
            1000 ++++++++++++++++++ - + ... !!!! It's high time !!!
        2. +2
          2 October 2013 12: 30
          I would do this fighter for Islam (voluntary-compulsory wassat ) the architect of the mosque for five years. wink
          1. Gul
            Gul
            0
            2 October 2013 14: 39
            ah, dreams, dreams ...
        3. +13
          2 October 2013 14: 10
          Quote: rinat1955
          The problem is that this type is not afraid of blood spitting ...

          Here you are slightly mistaken, there are only a few "punched" fanatics. The rest are still afraid. I have seen mountain eagles against the wall with pissed-off pants hanging from the back.
          And what bloody reaction can be after total sweeps?
          1. Gul
            Gul
            0
            2 October 2013 16: 26
            Only mentally alternative and forum warriors are not afraid.
            1. +2
              3 October 2013 17: 07
              100% safe!

              Only deb ... l is not afraid when in front of him the landing door opens at a height.
              I saw not mountain eagles who could not step into the "abyss."
              It’s scary, damn it, the parachute will not open, and damn the scribe as you want to live and return home.
        4. SASCHAmIXEEW
          +1
          3 October 2013 13: 42
          Rinat from where pessimism? If the FSB begins to work in the present, like the KGB against dissent, there will be no trace of Wahhabis !!! AU !!! FSB where are you? There is a work!!!
        5. +2
          3 October 2013 19: 48
          And to whom is he and 10 more of the same mu..kov better do? Muslims? No. Who benefits from these videos and extremist appeals? Muslims? No. Does anyone want to provoke a war? Who is real, and not just in words, ready to fight with the Russians to the end? After such a war, should it happen, just as soon as the Russians remain, will the Russians cut out all the others to the root, or do you have doubts? Does anyone fear the prospect of universal mutual slaughter? Have you ever seen villages, villages, cities after the battle? And you did not dream of the smell of released guts? What the hell are you talking about the bloody reaction here?
          And as for blood, he’s not afraid of crying, because he is not from knowledge, but not from personal courage.
    7. +6
      2 October 2013 12: 06
      Where is the 282st.? Well, the composition is simply there.
      1. +6
        2 October 2013 12: 41
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Where is the 282st.? Well, the composition is simply there.

        <Article 282. Incitement to hatred or enmity, as well as humiliation of human dignity
        1. Actions directed to incite hatred or enmity, as well as to humiliate the dignity of a person or a group of persons on grounds of sex, race, nationality, language, origin, attitude to religion, as well as belonging to a social group, committed publicly or using funds mass information, -
        shall be punishable by a fine in the amount of one hundred thousand to three hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the convict's salary or other income for a period of one year to two years, or by deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for a term of up to three years, or compulsory work for a term up to three hundred and sixty hours, or correctional labor for a term of up to one year, or forced labor for a term of up to two years, or imprisonment for the same term.
        2. The same acts committed:
        a) with the use of violence or with the threat of its use;
        b) a person using his / her official position;
        c) by an organized group, -
        shall be punishable by a fine in the amount of one hundred thousand to five hundred thousand rubles, or in the amount of the wage or salary, or any other income of the convicted person for a period of one to three years, or by deprivation of the right to hold certain positions or engage in certain activities for a term of up to five years, or by compulsory works for a term up to four hundred and eighty hours, or correctional labor for a term of one to two years, or compulsory labor for a term of up to five years, or imprisonment for the same term.>
        This article is for Russians only.
        The whole Internet went around the video, where two teenagers, let's say, not of Russian nationality humiliated a Russian guy. They even showed it on TV. The police installed them. Who can say what awaits them?
        1. Arabist
          0
          2 October 2013 16: 32
          Oh really? Only for Russians? And how do you prove it?
    8. +3
      2 October 2013 12: 30
      Quote: vadimus
      Full of work for special services,

      The fact is that not a single admirer of Allah stopped this or called an outfit. Surely there were enough cops there. And this is already bad! Very bad
    9. +6
      2 October 2013 13: 51
      Gather all this crowd of "Allah Akbar" and thrust them demonstratively 20 years in camps. The rest are thinking.
      If Russia is your unfriendly state-Get out of Russia !!!
    10. +1
      2 October 2013 15: 42
      It is necessary to drive them all.
    11. alexeyal
      +2
      2 October 2013 18: 17
      In order to change laws, one must go into politics, take part in elections, get out to the Duma and change laws there. Special services, too, do not act on their own, but on the orders of management.
    12. +1
      2 October 2013 19: 45
      Quote: vadimus
      Full of work for the special services, and it's time to change the laws. Enough to shield this mraz-otu, otherwise it will turn into a big blood ....


      And if you don’t just have to pay with your blood. Now, if only specialists begin to radically solve these issues, which of course is unlikely ... but if they start it is easier than two fingers - everyone saw the speaker’s face, he sang along too. Specialists came and the singers drowned the speaker in Sartir, and themselves hung from grief.
    13. Gladiatir-zlo
      0
      2 October 2013 21: 08
      Well, brothers, will we expect from CK to institute criminal proceedings to incite hatred, or is it pointless to not see our tracks of the composition falling under the article?
    14. honest jew
      +5
      2 October 2013 23: 17
      We have no such mess in Israel !!! Not even a thought will be thought and thought, not to say ... We are not negotiating with this locust and do not listen to eulogies about peaceful Islam
      1. 0
        2 October 2013 23: 22
        Quote: Honest Jew
        We have in Israel


        and flag and oh why is it Polish for some reason ?! winked
      2. +2
        3 October 2013 19: 59
        We have no such mess in Israel !!! Not even a thought will be thought and thought, not to say ... We are not negotiating with this locust and do not listen to eulogies about peaceful Islam

        There may not be a mess, but there is war. You have such brave men in Israel that even women are forced to join the army. And in general, your Israel would not exist if it were not for Comrade Stalin.
    15. SASCHAmIXEEW
      0
      3 October 2013 11: 45
      On the YouTube, there’s a Jewish Zionist, as in all media and TV !!! Where is the law on breadth? Like in Australia? In the Duma traitors RUSSIA !!! Deputies are sitting, adopting laws against Russia, only as a betrayal, you can’t call it !!!!
  2. +28
    2 October 2013 08: 14
    when suddenly a young man, dressed in a black jacket and black hat, separates from the crowd and begins to “broadcast” in bad Russian about how difficult it is for Muslims to live in Russia, how Muslim women are prevented from wearing hijabs, and how representatives of Russian special services kill “ innocent brothers ”in the North Caucasus. Already at the end of the first minute of his “sermon”, the young man, to whom the crowd began to listen, gave the main thesis of his speech: Russia is an unfriendly state in relation to Islam, and the “brothers” should understand this.
    The war is already at our "home" and it is time to understand this, and if we want to win this war, we need to act more actively and thoughtfully, in particular, to limit the flow of emigrants and improve the internal climate in the country, and not talk about future reductions ... work, the time of talking has passed five years ago.
    1. +7
      2 October 2013 08: 24
      Quote: svp67
      - limit the flow of emigrants and improve the internal climate in the country,

      It is impossible to stop. In economically developed regions there are really not enough workers. But it is necessary and possible to restore order with migrants. And the law on extremism is not afraid to apply against representatives of any religion.
      The video described in the article is a typical example of such a crime. Why haven’t you been caught and put in prison? Question to the prosecutor’s office and the police.
      1. +10
        2 October 2013 08: 53
        Quote: domokl
        In economically developed regions there are really not enough workers.

        Nobody is simply interested in this, as everyone speaks for himself, so from your statement it is FUNNY TO Tears!
        Quote: domokl
        Question to the prosecutor's office and the police

        The police are keeping order with us, therefore, first to them, but that’s why the police work like this only later to the prosecutor’s office!
        1. +2
          2 October 2013 10: 30
          Without a command from above, they will not do anything ...
      2. +6
        2 October 2013 10: 47
        The question is long standing. Power has been lying, it is lying. And it doesn’t move. Are we waiting for Paris? London? God damn it, it’s not better with us. Kondopoga, Balakova .... throughout mother Russia. Well this is how to be blind, not to see the obvious.
        1. +2
          2 October 2013 10: 49
          Quote: Very old
          The question is long standing.

          Valentine, he fell a long time ago! laughing And in the government they still think that it weighs ... in limbo, so to speak!
      3. Gul
        Gul
        +7
        2 October 2013 14: 46
        But didn’t they try to pay decent to the inhabitants of the Russian hinterland, so that they would have an incentive to go to human-deficient areas and live in more or less decent conditions there?
      4. Yarosvet
        +4
        2 October 2013 16: 40
        Quote: domokl
        In economically developed regions there are really not enough workers

        There are enough hands - there is not enough level of pay and working conditions.
      5. +4
        2 October 2013 22: 43
        Yes, they have enough for working hands - at the same time SPECIALISTS. It’s just that they need to pay an appropriate salary. It’s cheaper to bring slaves to put 20 people in a trailer and pay a penny. This happens both on private objects and on government buildings. The so-called government is beneficial - accordingly, nothing will change
    2. rinat1955
      +3
      2 October 2013 09: 46
      Well, when Ivanov declares that Muscovites are plankton, producing nothing, and the prime minister calls for preparations for reductions ... why did you get the idea that this Uzbek provocateur is not a representative of special services?
    3. Gul
      Gul
      +1
      2 October 2013 14: 43
      No, it’s necessary to get on with Ukraine and the West in general, while Asians and Caucasians are relatives, they don’t like the West, 140% vote for Edro.
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  4. +10
    2 October 2013 08: 14
    Only those users (viewers, readers, listeners) who are extremely far from the ideas of Islam itself, and generally from common sense, can only believe in the “noodles” that Muslims are being oppressed in Russia.

    Rather, the opposite. Let someone try to speak in the Islamic regions of Russia with a sermon on the oppression of other concessions! The result is predictable.
  5. +6
    2 October 2013 08: 21
    For the sake of rating, we’re ready for anything. But on the topic, such stuffing is scary because young people, and most adults, most often believers are exactly the same as they used to be atheists. Previously, there is no God and that’s all. Without explanation, now there is God and that's all ...
    And it’s fashionable to be a believer. Hence the emergence of so many sects and movements. Anyone who possesses at least some gift of suggestion or oratory becomes oracles.
    1. +1
      2 October 2013 17: 14
      But this is the very ....... - believe "just in case." But what if?
      What offend true believers
  6. +7
    2 October 2013 08: 21
    I would like to contact the moderators and administrators of the service www.youtube.com
    Oh, Alex ... who are you contacting? Have you forgotten whose property this service is located in?
  7. +12
    2 October 2013 08: 24
    Special services need to "figure out" this GADA, and those who "encouraged" him to such a provocation, and if it is a foreigner - to jail, and at the end of the term - to deport, and if "his" - to put him in jail for 15-20 years read the Koran every day, because Muslims say that their religion is PEACEFUL, teaches good, so let him learn the true values ​​of Islam.
    1. +5
      2 October 2013 10: 50
      Right The banal provocateur who cries the banal prison
  8. Valery Neonov
    +6
    2 October 2013 08: 24
    And once again we have to be surprised at the INACTION of our "glorious" forces of law and order to outright threats from radical Muslims ... Oh, they will wait for their "fifth point" ... request
    1. MG42
      +12
      2 October 2013 08: 51
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      Oh, wait for their "fifth point" ...


      It is probably worth remembering the events in Moscow a year ago >>

      In the capital, after Friday prayers, a clash of parishioners of the mosque with policemen occurred. As a result, several people were detained, a special forces bus was broken. “The riots began during Friday prayers near the mosque on Olympic Avenue,” a law enforcement source told Life News. - It is known that a group of visitors from the southern regions attacked a riot police bus on duty at the mosque. The car was turned over, but the instigators of the riots managed to neutralize and detain. According to another source, police officers were also injured as a result of the clashes. According to the interlocutor, the bus will not be overturned, but glass is broken in it. Officially, the Life News Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs reported that 12 people were detained.

      1. +28
        2 October 2013 09: 14
        It was necessary for the riot police there to shoot a couple of abreks on the spot. The herd would have fled. They are the only crowd and can attack. One at a time they are sykuns hiding their eyes.
        1. rinat1955
          -2
          2 October 2013 12: 14
          Yeah ... and then this video (like a riot police shooting people near a mosque on Friday) to the network ... then the Wahhabis will be happy.
          and when, on October 70, 26 thousand strong young people go to the mosque on Mira Avenue, they’ll watch this video.
          Are you not a provocateur, my dear?
      2. +7
        2 October 2013 09: 19
        It’s probably not Muslims wink , it’s probably radicals or some other trend of Islam winked...
        1. MG42
          +4
          2 October 2013 09: 39
          Quote: Denis
          It’s probably not Muslims

          I just don’t want to put the same video with mats not trimmed, this fight was a holiday Kurban Bayram
          1. +2
            2 October 2013 10: 06
            Quote: MG42
            I just don’t want to put the same video with mats not cut,

            Somehow, one bearer of the world's religion told me that we can swear, because we swear in Russian ... by the way, he constantly went to the mosque and even went to Mecca. Like this.
            1. MG42
              +1
              2 October 2013 10: 40
              Quote: Denis
              we can swear

              You just need to clarify the rules, then the mate on the video is a violation?, Of course, it adds color to the picture, as in that song by Cord .. << it's impossible to live without a mate, as it was yesterday ******* ..
              you will not find another word if this morning ***** >> wink
              1. rinat1955
                +1
                2 October 2013 12: 24
                A mate is a combat spell. Which should be used ONLY in extreme situations.
        2. 0
          2 October 2013 09: 49
          That is, you must first understand who is who?
  9. +6
    2 October 2013 08: 24
    By the way, who will tell you (A. Romanov can) where did our Azerbaijani ally go? in the world of runet with the profile picture of Alfredo))
    I would like to listen to his opinion on the actions of these shaitans
    1. P-15
      +9
      2 October 2013 08: 47
      Well, you yourself answered your question, he is a shaitan and he is a shaitan in Moscow.
      1. +1
        2 October 2013 08: 58
        if you have been to such events, tell me, what is the reaction of the majority? just silently pass by?
        1. P-15
          +14
          2 October 2013 09: 05
          God forbid me to attend such events))) although I am a Muslim and I live in a Muslim country. They also protested with us (they even threatened to burn the school) when the law came out forbidding girls from going to public school in hijab. The police quickly dispersed them and made it clear who is who.
          1. +2
            2 October 2013 09: 36
            and yet. I’m asking, not as an eyewitness and participant, but as a Muslim. Who is everyone else? Are they the same shaitans who understand speakers, or true Muslims, but who lack the courage to prevent this or react?
            police separate conversation
            1. P-15
              +6
              2 October 2013 09: 48
              Honestly, I did not have to contemplate such events with such sermons. We have a secular society, although many have fallen into religion after the collapse of the USSR. But there are moderate believers who are disgusted by the nonsense that the aforementioned speaker carries, and there are others like him.
              As to prevent, our shorts (Wahhabis wink ) so openly on the street they do not propagate radical Islam - it won’t pass with us. The police will immediately knock them on the head. And a normal person will not listen to such heresy.
              1. +3
                2 October 2013 10: 55
                Anti-government "sermons" like this are probably difficult to imagine in our country, and because there are a lot of young people who know the basics of religion and it is not very easy to "hang noodles"
            2. Yarbay
              +9
              2 October 2013 10: 39
              Quote: Gleb
              and yet. I’m asking, not as an eyewitness and participant, but as a Muslim. Who is everyone else? Are they the same shaitans who understand speakers, or true Muslims, but who lack the courage to prevent this or react?

              Why not prevent !?
              Just Gleb, I talked about this more than once, they don’t write about such things!
              it's all purposeful! for the last time I remember in my opinion in Sumgait we tried to capture one mosque, got it in the teeth!
              but only local newspapers wrote about it, and there are dozens of such examples!
              I told you about the disks and literature of these shaitans !!
              Huge circulations are issued also in all countries of Europe, the USA and even in Russia !!
              And you will not find books of famous scientists!
              Here are the latest examples !!
              A group of leading Islamic scholars spoke out against suicide bombings and militant attacks, the methods most often used by members of paramilitary Islamist organizations, the BBC reports.

              During a conference in the capital of Afghanistan, Kabul, religious scholars and connoisseurs of the Qur'an stated that suicide attacks were contrary to Islam.
              The Government of Afghanistan has recently stepped up efforts to hold peace talks with Taliban militants.
              http://wap.vesti.az/news/174659

              An influential Muslim preacher intends to publish in London a worldwide fatwa against terrorism and suicide bombers.

              Fatwa is a decision on a specific issue that is made by an authoritative clergyman and which is based on the principles of Islam. Experts compare fatwa with a precedent in Anglo-Saxon law, because it represents a conclusion on a specific issue, although it is not made by a judge, but by influential scholars.

              Doctor of Theology Tahir Kadri, a Pakistan-based native of Britain, says his 600-page work completely robs Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations of an ideological foundation. The preacher calls the Osama bin Laden network "an old evil with a new name" and adds that so far al-Qaeda has not been thrown any noticeable ideological "glove".

              http://korrespondent.net/world/1052693-vliyatelnyj-islamskij-propovednik-izdaet-


              fetvu-protiv-terroristov-smertnikov

              Have you read about such things ?? /
              one two sites will write and be forgotten!
              Why do not they write about this on our website ???
              it does not matter???
              Gleb against Islam is a real war and in the forefront of Wahhabi!
              1. +4
                2 October 2013 11: 09
                "A real war is going on and the Wahhabis are in the vanguard!"

                For this they were created!
              2. +1
                2 October 2013 17: 58
                I welcome Alibek! and I recalled)
                Your opinion on these issues is most clear to me. and in this case, my brain with the least loss assimilates information on the topic of Islam. That’s why I called on the topic))
          2. +4
            2 October 2013 09: 52
            Hijabs in educational institutions are prohibited in many Muslim countries, and in the Stavropol region, a whole performance was arranged on all TVs.
      2. +2
        2 October 2013 09: 50
        Rufat, can you influence the shaitans themselves so that you and your religion are not discredited?
        1. P-15
          +3
          2 October 2013 09: 54
          How can you influence devils (Wahhabis)? )))
          1. +2
            2 October 2013 10: 06
            Well, this is not a question for me, but rather for your preachers, imams and wise old people.
            Although you are right, it is only possible to fight the devils with force if beliefs are already powerless.
            1. P-15
              +1
              2 October 2013 10: 15
              )) And that was not a question, but an answer.
              You correctly understood my words in the second sentence of your post.))
              Only who will let us fix the lynch))
              I read the Qur'an, but I didn’t find there lines that would say-Kill in the name of Allah. In the Bible, I did not find such lines either.
              But to convince them is useless, they need to be treated, for a long time and hard. But will it help ??? Man himself must understand that this is heresy.
          2. +2
            2 October 2013 10: 11
            Quote: P-15
            How can you influence devils (Wahhabis)? )))

            They influence Muslims on you, why can't you?
            1. P-15
              +4
              2 October 2013 10: 26
              For me))) not a single Wahhabi can influence, but there are people who fall into their fishing rods. If a smart person he leaves, and if not distant then it’s how the suit will fall. But mostly fall into their tricks - illiterate or unsettled and lonely people. It is terrible when educated fall and begin to draw in their loved ones. Slowly and purposefully.
          3. +1
            2 October 2013 18: 00
            Quote: P-15
            How can you influence devils (Wahhabis)?

            Fire, boiler, tar ...
    2. Yarbay
      +5
      2 October 2013 10: 21
      Quote: Gleb
      I would like to listen to his opinion on the actions of these shaitans

      Dear Gleb!
      I about the video lined up and the story of the attack on the riot police can not tell the shaitans attacking or not!
      I do not know about the views of these people!
      and there the video shows that the guy in the white T-shirt is trying to get the policeman out of that situation !!
      It's like in football matches there are collisions, it looks like this!
      I don’t know how the conflict began!
      Maybe the policeman insulted someone! ??
      But I emphasize that I consider this hooliganism and unacceptable, but when he was a young man, he often started up for any reason !!
      There is one thing that a believing Muslim must have endurance and patience!
      1. MG42
        +4
        2 October 2013 11: 58
        Quote: Yarbay
        I about the video lined up and the story of the attack on the riot police can not tell the shaitans attacking or not!
        I do not know about the views of these people!
        and there the video shows that the guy in the white T-shirt is trying to get the policeman out of that situation !!

        Well this is understandable Alibek Yes , touching the video where the paratrooper is fighting with the crowd, someone also said that it was not a paratrooper and not Caucasians, and so a drunk passed by and another drunk pester ..
        Can I get drunk in Kurban Bayram?
        1. rinat1955
          +4
          2 October 2013 12: 33
          The Quran forbids drinking fermented juice of the vine. Show you a bottle of vodka purchased in Saudi Arabia?
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            1. P-15
              +5
              2 October 2013 14: 51
              Quote: MG42
              Quote: rinat1955
              Show you a bottle of vodka purchased in Saudi Arabia?

              And to show you in Saudi Arabia, the first lingerie store with a street display has opened >>>

              laughing laughing
            2. +2
              2 October 2013 17: 19
              Stunned. Incredible. Sergey, you do not compose?
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  12. ReifA
    +4
    2 October 2013 08: 26
    Almost all such international brethren are now in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Egypt and Gaza. And thank God that mu *** like seen in the video can tens, but not tens of thousands.
  13. ed65b
    +7
    2 October 2013 08: 29
    Muslims who are well acquainted with the scripture (not through third mouths and ears) and the real geopolitical situation in the country will send this speaker to three Russians and merry ...

    Such speakers should not be sent, but the Muslims themselves should take them by their thin little beard to the nearest FSB department. Only in this way and nothing else.
    1. +4
      2 October 2013 08: 41
      But who will send them when the photo shows that they mainly learn religion through such speakers? I don’t think they themselves ever read the Quran.
  14. +1
    2 October 2013 08: 30
    Why was a photo similar to this removed from the article, where it is not clear what people are doing? Do you eat pilaf or go to God?
    1. 0
      2 October 2013 08: 35
      People are praying. Does it somehow hurt you?
  15. P-15
    +25
    2 October 2013 08: 32
    begins to “broadcast” about how difficult it is for Muslims to live in Russia, how Muslim women are prevented from wearing hijabs by Muslim women,

    What can I say, if it is so hard for such a Muslim to live in such an unfriendly Russia, the question arises: WHAT HARRY ARE YOU DOING ???? And as for the hijab, there is only one answer - TO ANOTHER MONASTERY WITH YOUR CHARTER, DO NOT CLICK. MORE IF YOU SEE THAT SUCH A CHOICE SHOCKS PEOPLE IF IF NOT ALARM.
    I never understood people who come to live in another country and begin to establish the lifestyle of the country where he came from. If you left that lifestyle, then you did not like him so what the hell are you taking him to a foreign country. I do not understand winked
    1. +2
      2 October 2013 10: 48
      Visitors can establish their orders only if they are allowed to do so ... Where the authorities protect the interests of their citizens and not impudent guest workers every day, such things are impossible. In pursuit of some ephemeral geopolitical interests, our leaders can lead the country to big trouble and what is happening in Western Europe ethnically will seem like children's games in the sandbox. It seems that our leaders continue to intend to act in the spirit of our long tradition - to wait until the thunder strikes ...
  16. Ev58
    +3
    2 October 2013 08: 39
    I have such a poem “The Executioner”, where I ask the reader to think about who is behind the perpetrator of the crime, that there is an executioner whom we cannot see with our own eyes, who only directed, controlled others, killing their once immortal souls, about the role of this invisible executioner. The final lines are:

    // Think who is behind him,
    Behind this executioner
    And rules like a juggler
    His hand with a sword! //

    Every time I hear slogans and beautiful phrases about countering terrorism, that performers and organizers should be punished. But time passes and everything repeats again. You do not feel the pattern? The repetition of mistakes can occur, as in school, only because of an unlearned lesson, lack of actions or lack of desire to make them. What is a terrorist threat in any country? This is the inefficiency or insufficient effectiveness of measures and actions of law enforcement agencies and intelligence services of the country. It is important, as you understand, the civic position of each person. We humans are the environment in which direct directors, organizers and perpetrators of these and any other crimes are veiled. But back to the subject of discussion - terrorism, as a phenomenon. Numerous facts of terrorist acts are united by one thing - the use of religion, the highest feelings of believers for the implementation of dirty intentions. What does this mean? This means that people who took this step were illiterate, did not differ in their analytical mindset, believed in God, and their consciousness was flooded with dirt by the organizers of the crime, which distorted the fundamental landmarks of religion. Agree that almost all terrorist acts are committed by immigrants from countries and regions where the world's highest illiteracy. How can a person who can’t read scripture? Anything can be introduced into his consciousness. In a number of countries, illiteracy serves as a powerful lever for managing the masses. I mentioned the lack of analytical mindset in these people. This is also an important aspect. The analytical mindset allows you to collect and analyze incoming information, question even seemingly undeniable facts, and only after a deep analysis of the information received, draw a conclusion and make a decision, which, in fact, can be a guide to action. And let's imagine a little? Instability in any country allows, in accordance with the current governing documents of NATO, to send troops to maintain law and order. In some small, militarily, economically and politically weak African republic, troops would be brought in immediately. It’s more difficult with Russia. But after all, our ruling elite advocates joining NATO. Imagine that “peacekeeping” forces appeared in the streets in the person of American soldiers. What? Machine? So he is a peacemaker, he is here to maintain law and order, and a machine gun is nonsense, every soldier has it. Frenchman? In bulletproof vest? Do not worry, he is also a peacemaker, all peacekeepers wear bulletproof vests and military weapons, they also bring “peace” to the whole world. Perhaps there are forces interested in this development of events. Only everything will soon change, everything must change, otherwise it cannot be. Terrorism is a phenomenon, not a pattern and norm of life.
  17. gene
    +4
    2 October 2013 08: 40
    There is a clash of civilizations, a "people's war", and this must be understood. It is necessary to take effective measures, but simply "let them go" will not do any good.
  18. +1
    2 October 2013 08: 40
    The problem is that the system of spiritual education, both primary and higher, has collapsed in our state since the time of tsarist rule. Our people can call themselves Christians without knowing the Bible, Muslims - without knowing the Koran. If those who call themselves Muslims had their own idea of ​​what is written in the holy books, and not what such "guests" from sunny countries dictated to them, they would understand that these Arab clowns are lying to them. If our Muslims imagined the history of Islam in Russia, they would send comrades with hijabs and burqa very far away. But our people do not know anything about Islam, and are ready to believe in anything.

    By the way, in the first photo there are not so many of those who could be mistaken for Russians.
  19. Docklishin
    +13
    2 October 2013 08: 45
    Information war. Why remove the video? Why not tear your shirt when YouTube is a strictly affiliated organization. You just have to give the same answer. Namely, to make a cut of the speech places of this bearded gentleman, and after each of his statements to insert examples from Syria, Libya, Egypt, Sudan, Somalia ... And in the end it would be nice to show the attitude of our supreme mufti to this problem. And then everyone should understand who is the enemy of Islam and who is friend. Z.Y. pictured is the Kazan Kremlin. winked
    1. +1
      2 October 2013 09: 39
      You're right! Use the strength of the enemy to the detriment of him!
  20. +5
    2 October 2013 08: 51
    And where was the imam and other ministers of the mosque. This should be of primary concern to them because they will first of all remove them as minions. Muslims themselves must eradicate such people.
    1. ed65b
      0
      2 October 2013 09: 41
      Quote: morpogr
      And where was the imam and other ministers of the mosque. This should be of primary concern to them because they will first of all remove them as minions. Muslims themselves must eradicate such people.

      plus, I'm about the same.
  21. uhjpysq1
    +6
    2 October 2013 08: 59
    ) all these gaster hate us, because consider Russian occupiers. well, they can’t forget the capture of Bukhara, Khiva and other khanates. Also, no one forgot the conquest of the Caucasus. It took 100 years with a little.
    1. +7
      2 October 2013 15: 46
      I do not consider Russians to be invaders, if there were no Russians, all the Central Asians would go homeless as residents of Afghanistan, the middle age is still there, no schools and hospitals for you, not to mention a higher educational institution, radicalists are just dumb.
  22. vladsolo56
    +6
    2 October 2013 09: 01
    I have not seen this video, but judging by the article, it can be assumed that no one stopped this speaker, did not pull it, and did not even give it in the face. Here are many who claim that real Muslims are not aggressive and peace-loving. That among all who were present there were no real Muslims? that none of them understood what this jerk was talking about? No, they all understand everything perfectly and keep quiet, but because their Muslim conscience is clear, because he calls for distrust and even hatred not for them, true Muslims, but they don’t care about the rest. Is it normal people, no matter what religion they do?
    1. +3
      2 October 2013 09: 53
      Well yes. You would certainly give in the face to the person on whose side the crowd.
      1. vladsolo56
        +1
        2 October 2013 10: 24
        What do you mean? just many argue that there can’t be a lot of people on his side, such as a few, but most of the true Muslims, they are all decent people. Something here does not fit.
        1. +2
          2 October 2013 10: 47
          There are not a few of them. Do you see at least three or four people in a photograph that can be called Russians? They are not there. All these people were brought up by exactly the same preachers who spread the doctrine of Islam that is alien to local customs (including religious). Among the Turks and Caucasians, Islam was built on respect for local customs (the so-called Hanafi madhhab, this trend is most open and progressive). Only during the years of Soviet power, all religious education - regardless of whether it was home or centralized, was destroyed. After the collapse of the USSR, representatives of the most wild, conservative and xenophobic branch of Islam, the Hanbalites, previously distributed only on the Arabian Peninsula, penetrated the resulting void. This penetration, by the way, occurs not only in the former USSR, but also in all other countries where Hanafi Islam is adopted - and this is really scary.
        2. +5
          2 October 2013 11: 25
          Yes, it does not fit, if only because it’s enough to see what the so-called rebels with Christians and Christian shrines in Syria ... 99% of Muslims, of course, are not terrorists, but 99% of terrorists are Muslims ...
    2. ed65b
      +2
      2 October 2013 11: 58
      Quote: vladsolo56
      I have not seen this video, but judging by the article, it can be assumed that no one stopped this speaker, did not pull it, and did not even give it in the face. Here are many who claim that real Muslims are not aggressive and peace-loving. That among all who were present there were no real Muslims? that none of them understood what this jerk was talking about? No, they all understand everything perfectly and keep quiet, but because their Muslim conscience is clear, because he calls for distrust and even hatred not for them, true Muslims, but they don’t care about the rest. Is it normal people, no matter what religion they do?

      The most interesting thing is that, first of all, Muslims fall under the distribution. After all, for the Wahs that the Muslim that the Christian enemies. Enemies are all but them. Therefore, Muslims themselves must clean their ranks.
  23. +7
    2 October 2013 09: 04
    Yes, I also agree with the Australians ... Russia should be a secular secular country, only moderate movements can be preached, because religion should be something like easy psychotherapy ... Any calls for jihad, caliphates, demands for wearing excess religious paraphernalia should be tough to be stopped by fines, expulsions from the country, prison terms ... And there is no need to especially stand on ceremony, these are not Muslims, these are fascist Islamists ... No God gave anyone any right to judge others, God himself created all people ... Who does not know what kind of a believer he is in this case?
    1. +1
      4 October 2013 00: 56
      Plus, you need a visa regime from all over. Asia and a ban on hiring employers of ethnic immigrants from it. And in fixing, bonuses to those who will hand over employers who have gone over this law. Ehh dreams
  24. Daler
    +5
    2 October 2013 09: 04
    There are many military people who either work or know those who work in the right places. Give them this video, let them find and put on ... otherwise the normal Muslims will suffer because of it. Disrespect for the country in which you live should be punished. As a Muslim, I fully agree with the law passed in Australia. Everyone should respect each other, God created all and the fact that there are different religions in this there is a divine meaning. I am sure God if he wanted to, would make one religion initially, and would not create many. So respect everyone as a person, no matter what religion he is, until he begins to harm the family, the country, then you need to actively fight them. As now, you need to find him and put him for a long time to the Natsiks.
  25. soldier's grandson
    0
    2 October 2013 09: 06
    mosques need to be demolished, when there is such a manifestation, let them pray at home
    1. +7
      2 October 2013 16: 41
      Quote: Soldier's grandson
      mosques need to be demolished, when there is such a manifestation, let them pray at home

      And they are at home and pray. We have at least a sixth of the Muslim population; the same Tatars, Bashkirs with whom we live in the same state since the time of Ivan the Terrible. And they also shared with the Russians all the joys and tribulations of our common history, and they are full citizens of Russia. It is not a matter of traditional Islam, but of sects that parasitize on traditional religions. After all, Wahhabism is a sect with an aggressive ideology, designed primarily for uneducated, retarded people, it is they they recruit into their ranks and use as cannon fodder. And it is with the sects that the state must fight, and not with Islam. And you need to fight not only by force, but also economic and political, and most importantly ideological, because ideas can be effectively fought only by contrasting your own, more attractive idea.
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  26. pinecone
    +4
    2 October 2013 09: 07
    Quote: Valery Neon
    And once again we have to be surprised at the INACTION of our "glorious" forces of law and order to outright threats from radical Muslims ... Oh, they will wait for their "fifth point" ... request


    We have already waited, but you should not be surprised at the inaction of law enforcement forces, since they are just executors of the migration policy in the country.
    1. 0
      2 October 2013 09: 43
      Quote: pinecone
      We have already waited, but you should not be surprised at the inaction of law enforcement forces, since they are just executors of the migration policy in the country.

      It does not reach their "gifted" heads that such a policy will soon replace them.
      1. +1
        4 October 2013 01: 18
        Yeah. Why Moscow is worth it. Indeed, it’s not so long to confuse it with the capital of the Central Asian state. They are already masters here. roads are paved. minibuses and buses are brought in. they are seated at cash desks in stores. courier deliveries are provided. house servicing by removing garbage from garbage chutes ... the indigenous people did all this before. Now, Asians dump good lower vacancies. Populating and rooting quietly. ?????
  27. South
    +3
    2 October 2013 09: 09
    if someone still believes that there will be "good" Muslims and "scold" this "bad" Muslim - remember the old wise proverb - the RAVEN will not peck out a CROW ...
    we need to do something ourselves, and yes, the authorities should itch more actively, they have paved a path here with all these "good and bad"
    1. +4
      2 October 2013 09: 58
      Confederate, you are probably right that something is not visible complaints from true Muslims.
      One young Azerbaijani acquaintance said that their old people "turn a blind eye" at how their young people behave in Russia, in general, made me understand that the old people would pray for them and forgive them everything, if only they would transfer money home.
      1. +4
        2 October 2013 11: 05
        We have a common self-deception joke that sin outside the country is not a sin winked .As they say, there is a share in every joke ... But do not let the guys living abroad deceive themselves about what their families think about them negative
    2. +3
      2 October 2013 15: 52
      this is because the "good" Muslims think that the "bad" Muslims will not touch them, but in fact they will be cut as well, as in Syria they cut off the head of an imam. They are like sharks, these terrorists, there will be no prey will gnaw and eat each other.

      I advise all people who have joined any religion or ideology to watch the 38th parallel film in South Korea and answer to yourself if your mentor in religion / ideology orders you to kill your mother, sister or some other native in the name of faith or ideology, will you obey?

      Personally, I will answer to do it: I would stick a knife into the throat of a bastard who would order me that!
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  29. +3
    2 October 2013 09: 25
    This is in Moscow, and what can happen somewhere in the Volga region. It seems that the authorities are really doing nothing. Many mosques were opened, well, and then where are our spiritual educational institutions. They go to the Arabs, and what they will teach. Yes, and still have to look after them, or Wahhabis and climb there. And this citizen already needs to be detained for inciting sectarian and ethnic hatred.
    1. soldier's grandson
      0
      2 October 2013 09: 30
      in his words a call for war against Russia, and how many of these are immigrants from the Volga region and other regions fighting in Syria, but where is the guarantee that he did not take part in the hostilities there?
    2. +1
      2 October 2013 10: 14
      Quote: Yuri Ya.
      This is in Moscow, and what can happen somewhere in the Volga region.

      Just outside Moscow, normal men remained, no one there would call the police ...
  30. Vrungel78
    +2
    2 October 2013 09: 30
    PS I would like to contact the moderators and administrators of the www.youtube.com service that hosts the frankly extremist video: guys, you turned off the comments on this video - well done, but what prevents you from deleting the video itself is the video garbage, which can eventually lead to such consequences, from which entire regions of the world are shaken. The corresponding request (already with an indication of the video that incites interfaith strife) was sent directly to Youtube. After 5 hours after the request, the video was not deleted.
    And I want to contact the moderators and administrators of the Russian State. Please remove this geek speaker who is campaigning after prayer. And also, which agreed with him. And to those who like send the virus.
  31. 0
    2 October 2013 09: 30
    There is a corresponding article in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation on the fact of this event. There are persons involved. What else is needed? Calls occur openly and in public ... Cowardice, reluctance, or venality of the power block? Or journalists, risking their health, and sometimes life, should they be brought to numerous police departments?
  32. 0
    2 October 2013 09: 31
    The entih from www.youtube.com is demanding criminal prosecution for the dissemination of extremist materials inciting ethnic and religious hatred. As soon as the authorities do this, all propaganda will disappear by itself. Although it is possible that you paid the TUBERS, and ???
    1. 0
      2 October 2013 09: 56
      Oh yeah. Blame youtube. Indeed, who else? The same Google puts all the videos on the pipe - users have nothing to do with it.

      And for normal people there is a "complain" button under the video.
      1. 0
        4 October 2013 01: 26
        We need to learn from China. Chinese users are not available services such as Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Classmates and Foursquare.

        Original review: http://megaobzor.com/socialnaya-set-Google-v-kitae-zapreschena.html
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    1. 0
      2 October 2013 09: 56
      I look, you are well-groomed. Probably a religious scholar by education.
      1. netMolotov
        +2
        2 October 2013 10: 52
        Basileus - Probably a religious scholar by education.

        By education an electronics engineer. But after living half a century in this troubled world, you involuntarily learn to distinguish good from evil. And for example, I think that you do not need to be a gopnikologist to understand that this is bad.
        1. +4
          2 October 2013 11: 46
          Sergey, you are an extremely self-confident comrade who believes that everything in life has been cut short in your 50s ... Your associations are not the ultimate truth.
  34. +10
    2 October 2013 09: 36
    And you can imagine the opposite situation: Christians living in a Muslim country built a temple, and after the service one of the believers spoke on the steps of the church with a speech that Christians are oppressed in the country and it is time to "deal" with Muslims who are not behaving like brothers! What did the Muslims do during the creation of the Arab Caliphate and the Ottoman Empire? An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, as the Bible teaches! Etc. etc.

    Islam that is not tolerant (in the capitals of many Muslim states there are Christian churches, eh?) Should meet a similar attitude towards themselves in the Christian world. In the mentality of Europeans laid greater tolerance than the Asians. Such a preacher will not be torn apart on the steps of the mosque after the first minute of the performance. But then the suppression of any, even the smallest manifestations of religious intolerance by Muslims in Christian countries should be the goal of state institutions.
    Europe, learn from Australia! With this attitude, Australians will have no problems with Islamic radicals on their territory. They will live peacefully, without fear of walking the streets, and twisting a finger at their heads, looking at tolerant Europe.
    1. +3
      2 October 2013 09: 59
      Almost all Muslim capitals have Christian temples. Not only in the capitals of Wahhabi allies of the United States.
  35. +4
    2 October 2013 09: 39
    This "speaker" has hung several articles on himself, and therefore there are good reasons to close it. Although in such cases, such a measure is not even half-hearted, but absolutely inactive. The decision must be radically, and very harshly, with information among his kind. Close eyes on something like that - criminally. I hope that not all security officials follow the course of "tolerant inaction"
  36. IGS
    +8
    2 October 2013 09: 50
    And the scenario is still the same ... They want to arrange with us ... sorry ... sorry for them ... this is not Chechnya, where the soldiers did not really understand what they were doing there and for what and for whom ... Here they are run into either the Russian Riot, and he is merciless and straightforwardly cruel, and this is already happening, remember the recent pogrom in the hostel. Or, at best for them, to the War. Come to your senses, Muslims! Indeed, this "sermon" took place on the territory of the mosque, whose ministers, personally, on TV, swear to us that they are against extremism and for "world peace." Why is it possible? Why hasn't anyone pulled him back? Either decide it yourself, or ... I don't want this "either" to be. All your "holy wars", "jihad" are nothing compared to what will be, people are already embittered, and the Riot will sink everything in a big, senseless blood. You are being led to the slaughter! Be wise, you could not be destroyed by setting you against each other, they decided to try an extreme way - to send you to Russia on her land, those who set them on know what it is, they know the hard way. They will solve two problems, destroy you and drink blood for us. They want to destroy you, and make executioners out of me, my friends, relatives ... I do not want, I resist ... but will I and others have enough patience if we are provoked, and you confuse patience with weakness.
    1. +2
      2 October 2013 10: 17
      I agree with you that Muslim extremists are provoking a Russian revolt. In our country, local extremists are directly trying to incite Muslim Kirgiz on the Russians. At the same time, they speculate on the topic of a "popular uprising", or rather a riot of marauders and syphilitics of 1916 in Semirechye. However, in return that time, the Muslims received a real Russian revolt for their deeds. The looters and their sympathizers were killed and driven out of the country. Local nationals are still hysterical about this, because the Kerensky government allowed them to return and even ransomed their children from Uighur slavery.
      "Brave horsemen" when they fled to China, they left their old men and young children to die in the cold, on the passes. Those children who are older took with them for the purpose of selling.
  37. pliev78
    0
    2 October 2013 09: 54
    It’s not good that it should happen. I’ll go buy weapons and stock up on food, there’s no escaping war!
  38. 0
    2 October 2013 10: 04
    I suppose that the words of the provocateur in the mosque in Otradnoye lay on the plowed field of an alien propaganda seed for us. This means that the base for their brothers Allah akbar was prepared in this mosque.
    I can’t imagine how this action could take place in a Christian church or synagogue, where brothers in faith would praise the extremism of this preacher.
    When something like this happens at the stadium of a sporting event, their directorate is punished under all articles of the criminal-administrative code.
    Here, too, the Law should be applied to the clergy of the mosque for inciting interethnic and religious hatred.
    There is an extensive field of activity of the FSB and special services.
  39. +8
    2 October 2013 10: 08
    People must respect the laws of the country in which the Muslim, Christian, Jew or whatever else lives independently. I'm sure most people do that. And there are lousy elements in any society. All world religions teach only the good. And normal people will not set on each other on a religious basis. And intelligence agencies must identify such elements. If he is mistaken, then help him figure out the truth. And if it's someone’s order, then find out whose. And insulting all Muslims is unacceptable as well as another religion.
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  42. +5
    2 October 2013 10: 34
    Weller - "The higher the fence, the stronger the friendship"
    1. Gul
      Gul
      +1
      2 October 2013 14: 59
      Good girl, what can I add ...
    2. Turtles
      -4
      2 October 2013 18: 01
      And here already Weller calls for the collapse of Russia. And his statements are also drawn to the article of the Criminal Code.
      1. +1
        2 October 2013 22: 08
        In the case, Weller says
        1. Turtles
          +2
          3 October 2013 06: 03
          What Weller says is betrayal, of those soldiers and officers who died in the Caucasus, defending the territorial integrity of Russia. This is a call to sacrifice a considerable territory, in exchange for alleged security.
          Not a single wall can hold back the cancer tumor of terrorism, but is likely to lead to the further separation of national republics from Russia. Chechnya was already given independence in 1996; they forgot how it ended?
  43. +3
    2 October 2013 10: 44
    Quote: rinat1955
    You can issue such a decree ... and remain within the borders of the Moscow state (between the rivers Wolves and Oka) to lose Siberia Volga, the Caucasus.
    Have you even considered your suggestions a step? Maybe this Uzbek provocateur is counting on just such a reaction?
    What do you think that garbage like the Caucasus will be held in the Volga region? Or in Siberia?

    At first I thought that for wolves and orcs, Volga and Oka are written with a capital letter!
  44. +3
    2 October 2013 10: 50
    everything that happens consistently and naturally. "Cheap" labor costs the country more and more ... waste collection is not endless. No one in the country asks the question ... but actually how many migrants ... officials of all structures are only interested in one thing, how much dough specifically, they bring them ... this is the main criterion. Security of the state ... which one ... none of the officials sees themselves in Russia ... then they are immediately in Landograd ... and our FSB is not interested in what is so They are quickly accepted with open arms ... right, virtually every bureaucrat has a lever of pressure ... which actually starts with migrants ... corruption, aiding terrorists and criminals ... and treason, but only this emerges when they have successfully dumped.
    No one wondered ... who is the sponsor of all the resettlements ... what kind of migrants come and what have they been working for decades without any where.
    There is a quiet occupation of Russia under the flag of liberalism and tolerance ...
    A migrant in the country has rights more than a citizen ... at least because citizens are forced to endure all this insanity of those who have come in large numbers ... the construction of mosques, and how many Orthodox people have been set up by the church and synagogues from where they came ... only destruction.
    I do not like it ... leave for your beloved land where there are mosques and other attributes of a happy life.
    Calls to deprive citizens of work and social protection ... for the sake of making migrants happy are heard from the mouth of the prime minister and his ministers.
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  46. +4
    2 October 2013 11: 15
    Why did they forget in Moscow and in central Russia? For me, at least they are true believers, at least some more, let them tumble down the edges in their warm, lovely!
  47. +4
    2 October 2013 11: 18
    our deputies (legislators fattened) urgently to Australia, for the experience of lawmaking in the field of the fight against radicalism. URGENT !!!
    1. +1
      4 October 2013 01: 34
      But the resorts are contraindicated for them. Well, it’s better in ... stan. Let them stay there.
  48. +1
    2 October 2013 11: 45
    "If you want to live in a country ruled by Sharia law, or in a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," Costello said. "Golden words! Interestingly, our cool rulers have enough courage for such a one that puts everyone in their place , formulation? ... And this devil-oracle must be caught and deported urgently!
    1. +1
      2 October 2013 12: 20
      Our authorities are more and more about tolerance, multiculturalism and the fact that criminals do not have a nationality.
  49. Kolovrat77
    +8
    2 October 2013 11: 47
    When broke out in the Czech Republic thumped with our local Tatars.
    -You, for whom the boys.
    - Yes, you, we are for you, we are for US FOR RUSSIA.
    I had the honor to serve with the Tatars (from Kazan). Worthy Wars. Competent, executive. Not informers. At the same time, like all our fighters, amateurs squander, fly away, self-propelled, women, plump. They know their language, read it. If they speak their own approach, they don’t know a person who switch to Russian. No problems on national religious grounds. When you poke fun at them, such as Tatar, the machine gun and vodka (this is normal in the male team, especially in the Army) were perceived normally, there was no malice in the faces, but what’s on the mind is that the vodka will tell (not once, not one he said soon we will cut you Russian, although it happened and quarreled, even fought).
    Then, I had a driver Tatarin (God grant him health) 20 years older than me. Cheerful sociable person. Migrants (co-religionists) are wary, like many of my Muslims.
    What am I all about. It will be a pity that they get infected with all this nonsense. What I, by the way, believe with difficulty.
  50. +6
    2 October 2013 11: 57
    You can argue for as long as you like, but there is only one conclusion: you need to take measures, act and act immediately. Otherwise, in a couple of years, the first and second Chechen wars will seem like a war game for kindergartners. Firstly, in the aforementioned times, there were not so many Muslims, and not only so much from the Caucasus, on the territory traditionally occupied by the Slavs (central Russia, Siberia, the Volga region). If it flares up, then from the borders to the very outskirts. A semi-literate crowd (and in the countries of the post-Soviet eastern space - Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, etc., for the most part, this is) it is easy to fool the head off with jihad and furies in paradise for the dead soldiers of Allah: just take a ruzhbike, or play, or a knife and kill a couple of critters who don't know the name of the Prophet's mother. And they will take and kill. Since at the moment a whole generation was born who did not know that there was such a state as the Soviet Union, in which everyone got along well, received the same education, instilled the correct ethical and moral standards, and specifically "sharpened" their brains at the right angle. And in my opinion, whatever they said, it was right. What to do? Probably there is no universal pill. But you need to start by putting things in order with visitors, and not only from abroad, even if from the nearest, but also from the Caucasus. Eliminate spontaneous. uncontrolled influx of the aforementioned, and whoever arrives must pass through a specific "sieve" for reliability. I repeat: the state cannot delay this, otherwise the people will restore order without the support of the authorities, and this is fraught with consequences for both sides.
  51. Asan Ata
    +3
    2 October 2013 12: 18
    These guys are divided into two types: instigators and incited. This is typical for any community, by the way. That's right: jail the instigators, and explain to others what the state and the law are. And this applies to all communities, by the way.
  52. rinat1955
    -10
    2 October 2013 12: 25
    But are you sure that the guy who wrote the article and the Uzbek provocateur are not the same person?
    Think, think...
    1. +5
      2 October 2013 12: 50
      We thought and thought and came to the conclusion: the reader clearly has a sick imagination. smile
  53. +2
    2 October 2013 12: 34
    On September 27.09, an action was organized in Ufa at several points in Ufa. Young people stood in single pickets with posters on the topic of the murder of Muslims and the destruction of mosques in Russia. Also in some places, on overpasses, banners on the same topic were stretched out. Just like in Moscow, people appeared at the exits of mosques who talked about the “difficulties of life” for Muslims in Russia. Out of curiosity, I searched the Internet for information on the topic. And I found that the actions were organized by the Wahhabi organization Hizb-ut-Tahrir, a banned extremist organization in Russia.
  54. +1
    2 October 2013 12: 58
    It's time to decide what a mosque is for a Muslim - a temple, a place of worship or a platform for preaching extremism?
    It is necessary to close mosques that have been seen as promoting Salafism or another radical movement. Temples were not built for them.
    And it’s time to legislatively approve and allow religious movements that have the right to build churches and gather in one place for more than three. And this will not be persecution, because you can build a corner for prayer at home, so you can believe in whoever you want, even Voodoo, even Cthulhu.. But there is no need to bring this to the masses.

    And this Speaker in the picture will be sent for preventive interrogation to the Dalniy police department in Kazan. They know how to change beliefs.
  55. 0
    2 October 2013 13: 04
    Actually, the article smacks of incitement. I have many Muslim acquaintances and I haven’t seen anyone being discriminated against. We have a secular state and moderate Muslims feel great. But the fanatics....I hope the FSB found this speaker?
    1. +7
      2 October 2013 13: 09
      Well, of course... The calls of radicals don’t smell, but the article does... Vladimir, give specific quotes where I (the author) call to incite something and someone?
      1. 0
        2 October 2013 17: 12
        Why do you need to call? Just read...And you’ll want to quickly close this very mosque in Otradnoye with the use of heavy armored vehicles. And the calls of the radicals still smack. You can say they stink. In my opinion, this tolerant shop should be closed. It’s a pity there is no one.
  56. ozon141
    0
    2 October 2013 13: 55
    Religion (especially Muslim) is the best way to control the masses. It's bad that these masses are controlled against us...
  57. ROA
    ROA
    0
    2 October 2013 14: 02
    It's time to tightly close all borders with Central Asia and Transcaucasia. We can’t cope with our Islamist crap, and latent Wahhabis are still coming to us.
  58. +6
    2 October 2013 14: 13
    What prevents our services from taking these ass by the ass and prosecuting them?
    instigators?
    They do not hide their faces... What prevents the adoption of very harsh laws to protect Russia and the Russian Orthodox population?
    Why is our government silent?
    The problem will not resolve itself; on the contrary, sooner or later it will bring great trouble.
    The Kremlin looks warm and cozy behind the high walls. Until the thunder strikes...
    1. Gul
      Gul
      -2
      2 October 2013 16: 29
      You are slandering the authorities, even as they are fighting for protection, they have pressed in the pussek, the priests are consecrating the BULAV, all the way...
  59. +2
    2 October 2013 14: 20
    <<<Everyone begins to descend from the steps and disperse, when suddenly a young man, dressed in a black jacket and a black hat, separates from the crowd, and in bad Russian begins to “broadcast” about how difficult it is for Muslims to live in Russia,>>>
    Although our religion is legally separated from the state, you SHOULD NOT wait for visiting preachers in black jackets to start preaching not from the steps of the mosque, but directly in the mosque itself! And this seems to be where things are heading! Saudi Arabia, acting as the world center of Islam, invests gigantic sums and spreads its radical current of Islam throughout the world as the only true one, and, so to speak, Russian traditional moderate Islam, subjected to such pressure from radicals, begins, as we see, to lose its position and the influence of radical Islamist jihadists, especially on the younger generation, is growing! There is an urgent need for the state to help our moderate Islam resist this invasion by prohibiting the spread of extremist movements of Islam and Wahhabism that are hostile to Russian Muslims and Russia, and to resolutely and harshly persecute their distributors and adherents!
  60. +3
    2 October 2013 14: 58
    Looks like a lice test. If these are not closed, then instigators will appear near all mosques!
    1. 0
      2 October 2013 15: 20
      Anyway.
      Such actions require a tough response.
      Let them perform as much as they like
  61. dmb
    +5
    2 October 2013 15: 17
    The topic is generally hackneyed, but it’s worth looking at it from the other side. The author asks a completely fair question to the owners of the resource: “Why does this video continue to be available?” “And because,” the owners answer him, because for the sake of money, they, like any worthy members of capitalist society, will continue to shove their stinking microphones under the noses of the bloody victims of another terrorist attack or just an accident, they will find out what sensations the raped woman felt, and how a child left without parents feels. I remember a couple of years ago the so-called masters of journalism said something about a moral code. Morality will arise only when a publication (newspaper, TV program, website) is closed for such things after first paying a gigantic fine. Alas, any modern society cannot exist without censorship. Then all these Malakhovs, Sobchaks and other riffraff will remember that they must be held accountable for their words and actions.
  62. +1
    2 October 2013 15: 33
    Quote: Denis
    Australia issued a decree on September 20, which states that Muslims who wish to live in Australia under Sharia law will have to leave this country because the government is threatened by this category of citizens, reports Uainfo.

    This decree is addressed, as noted in the press, to Arab-Muslim immigrants.

    The day after "a group of moderate Muslims", at a special meeting with Australian Prime Minister John Howard, took the oath of allegiance to Australia and the Queen, Howard and his ministers made an unequivocal statement that the full weight of the law would fall on those who were so impressed. " extremists. " Treasury Secretary Peter Costello, believed to be Howard's successor as prime minister, hinted that some sheikhs may be asked to leave the country if they don’t come to terms with the fact that "Australia is a secular state in which laws are passed by parliament."

    "If these values ​​are not yours, if you want to live in a country ruled by Sharia law, or in a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," Costello said on state television. "I would tell the clerics who teach that there are two systems of law in Australia - Australian and Islamic, that this is a lie. If you cannot agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy and prefer Sharia law and can leave for another country - probably , this is the best option, "he said unequivocally. Costello said that holders of dual citizenship may be asked to leave for the country of their second citizenship.

    In turn, Defense Secretary Brendan Nelson told reporters that Muslims who do not want to accept local values ​​should "get out." “Basically, people who don't want to be Australians and who don't want to live up to Australian values ​​and understand them, well, they can get out,” he said.

    "Immigrants, not Australians, have to adapt. Take it or get out. I'm tired of our country having to constantly worry about whether we offend some people or their culture," Brendan Nelson said. “We speak mostly English, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian or any other language. So if you want to become a part of our society, learn our language!”.

    "Most Australians believe in God. This is not some kind of Christian, right-wing, political doctrine, but a fact, because Christian men and women created this country on Christian principles, and this is clearly recorded in the documents. Of course, it is appropriate to put it on our walls. schools. If God offends you, then I suggest that you consider the possibility of moving to another part of the world, because God is part of our culture, "he stressed.

    It couldn’t be more accurate and correct! This is patriotism, concern for the well-being of the country, the population and defending all its interests!
    Take this principle directly and write it into the constitution in golden Russian letters!

    You don’t accept Russia in your soul, there’s nothing to do here (goodbye! laughing )!
  63. kudwar68
    +2
    2 October 2013 15: 48
    It’s time, it’s time to start sending such instigators to the vastness of Siberia to build a railway to the North Pole, sow corn in the tundra, etc. The quarries in Magadan are waiting for hot guys!
  64. +3
    2 October 2013 16: 08
    Such provocateurs must disappear without a trace within 24 hours.
  65. +2
    2 October 2013 16: 10
    The enemy has been in the capital for a long time and so far is only engaged in banditry, and the specialists. services catch Russians who talk about it according to the order.
  66. antibanukurayza
    +8
    2 October 2013 16: 24
    Muslim brothers! Do not succumb to any kind of provocations from extremist religious emissaries! These Wahhabis-Salafis have changed their tactics - they are no longer as open as before. They are quietly recruiting young students, migrants and the unemployed. Our task is to counter this false teaching of the Wahhabi-Salafi “scholars” and explain to people the teachings of the recognized imams Abu Hanifa, Ahmad, Shafighi and Maliki. Because of such "preachers" the world begins to hate our religion.
  67. +1
    2 October 2013 17: 28
    Vladimir Semenovich Vysotsky

    Ballad about the transmigration of souls.

    Who believes in Mohammed, who - in Allah, who - in Jesus,
    Whoever does not believe in anything, even the devil, is spite for everyone.
    The Indians came up with a good religion:
    That we, having given ends, do not die for good.

    Thy soul strove up
    Born again with a dream
    But if you lived like a pig, -
    You will remain a pig.

    Let them look at you askance - get used to reproach.
    Annoying? - Well, you’ll be born again for barbs.
    If you saw the death of an enemy during this life,
    In another, you will be given a faithful, watchful eye.

    Live yourselves normally
    There is reason to have fun
    After all, maybe in the boss
    Your soul is dwelling.

    Let you live as a janitor - born again as a foreman,
    And then from the foreman to the minister you will grow.
    But if you are dumb like a tree, you will be born a baobab
    And you will be a baobab for a thousand years while you die.

    Annoyingly a parrot live
    Viper with a long eyelid ...
    Isn’t it better to be in life
    A decent person?

    So who is who, so who was who - we never know
    Geneticists have gone crazy over genes and chromosomes...
    Perhaps that mangy cat was once a scoundrel,
    And this sweet man used to be a kind dog.

    I jump with delight
    I avoid temptations
    Convenient religion
    The Indians came up with it.

    hi
    1. In the reeds
      +2
      2 October 2013 21: 41
      All living things have a special meaning
      Celebrated from an early age.
      If I weren't a poet,
      He was probably a swindler and a thief.

      Thin and short,
      There is always a hero among boys,
      Often, often with a broken nose
      I came to my home.

      And towards the frightened mother
      I muttered through my bloody mouth:
      "Nothing! I tripped over a stone
      It will all heal by tomorrow.”

      And now, when I caught a cold
      These days are boiling water,
      Restless, defiant force
      It spilled over my poems.

      156

      Golden, verbal pile,
      And above each line without end
      The old prowess is reflected
      Bullies and tomboys.

      As then, I am brave and proud,
      Only newness splashes my step...
      If earlier they hit me in the face,
      Now my soul is covered in blood.

      And I’m not already telling my mother,
      And into the alien and laughing rabble:
      "Nothing! I tripped over a stone
      It will all heal by tomorrow.”
  68. +7
    2 October 2013 17: 28
    Perhaps the inaction of the authorities in such situations is understandable. Our government can be accused of anything, just not stupidity; all actions pursue one goal or another. It is naive to believe that the “chief electronics engineer” or the “chief archaeologist and poultry farmer”, thinking about lofty things, do not see what is happening under their feet. Knowing about the growing tension in society caused by widespread corruption, large-scale embezzlement with complete impunity and permissiveness of those in power and their retinue, against the backdrop of insecurity and lack of rights of ordinary citizens, turning a blind eye to all violations, allows entry into the country of a large number of poorly literate, but relatively young and strong guys, not forgetting to maintain hostility between the indigenous population and visitors. Well, then... When dissatisfaction with the authorities reaches a critical point, all that remains is to pit the locals against the newcomers / the scenario has already been worked out, you saw it not so long ago /.
    And in the end: to the thunderous applause of our Aligarh, some of the “guests” return home, the subdued remaining ones take their jobs, the local population, having let off steam, scolding their useless government, continues to gnaw crackers.
  69. +2
    2 October 2013 17: 57
    Quote: godun
    And in the end: to the thunderous applause of our Aligarh, some of the “guests” return home, the subdued remaining ones take their jobs, the local population, having let off steam, scolding their useless government, continues to gnaw crackers.

    Okay, if this is still the case, it could be worse.
  70. +3
    2 October 2013 18: 02
    Judging by the number of comments and their meaning, the problem is very serious.. But the ways to solve it are very one-sided (to put it mildly..) and most importantly ineffective.. This is what I think: any extremism (organizations of a group) will not last long without powerful financial support (this is primarily propaganda ..literature, media, Internet, weapons, bribery, terrorist attacks, etc.) all this costs a lot of money. And who is leading and financing all of this is known to everyone, I think.. The only solution to how to deal with all this is pressure on those countries where this porridge is being cooked and spread all over the world..(ideological economic military..) It will not be possible to close the borders of Russia, the infection is already smoldering like embers here.. Syria is now bearing the brunt of this infection (and everyone there knows where it is coming from) The Anglo-Saxons ignited They themselves are not happy about this flame now.. I think there is no need to become hysterical and throw around slogans! The work is being carried out quietly and without noise... This is all not solved quickly and by some kind of laws, eviction, etc. There is an information war going on and Russia must win it! (and the rest is a matter of technology, as they say) I expressed a little awkwardly a lot of thoughts, but the essence I think it's clear...
  71. kci
    kci
    +6
    2 October 2013 18: 40
    Quote: kudwar68
    It’s time, it’s time to start sending such instigators to the vastness of Siberia to build a railway to the North Pole, sow corn in the tundra, etc. The quarries in Magadan are waiting for hot guys!

    Dear stop!! I and my friends in Siberia need them just as much as you need them at home. Only home to their sunny countries!!!!! or behind a high fence:*)
    1. kudwar68
      +1
      2 October 2013 19: 18
      Well then, excuse me, for the fence, so for the fence, but some rabidly paranoid Wahhabis-hobbits still need to go to hard labor!
  72. +2
    2 October 2013 18: 47
    Our rulers are soft-bodied, and this is why all and sundry breed - Wahhabis, hobbits and other goblins. IMHO.
    1. Gul
      Gul
      -2
      2 October 2013 20: 22
      Nevermind, soft-bodied - for,, drive out Putin!, - sit in a two-bedroom with murderers, no, there’s something wrong here...
      1. +2
        2 October 2013 23: 27
        They gave 2 years not for expelling Putin, but for blasphemy, and they didn’t give enough. If I were there, I would beat the hari and not give a damn about the women. Believers go to church, but these creatures can be said to give a shit about their souls. We should go to the UAE to fight for human rights, it’s so weak angry
        1. Gul
          Gul
          -3
          3 October 2013 02: 38
          Anatolich, well, let’s assume that it would be bad for the pussies in the UAE and SA - from this we conclude that the fundamentalist-extremist UAE with the Saudis and Russia are one canoe. Why are you sad then, the right guy lit up the mosque, collected spiritual bonds, honored traditional values, you, dear Russians, should have taken an example and distributed the video, but you somehow speak poorly of a fellow religious believer. After all, you are sure that your brother If the pussie approves of the punishment, then admit it, you and I are of the same blood...
          1. Turtles
            +1
            3 October 2013 06: 18
            You're cringing in the UAE and SA, they would have been dragged out into the street and thrown stones at them. In Russia they were tried and sentenced, and the sentence they gave was not the maximum.
          2. 0
            5 October 2013 23: 50
            First of all, what brother are we talking about? Secondly, I agree with the turtle, Russia is far from the UAE, and I would be glad if the screws were tightened, otherwise, frankly speaking, I’m already fed up with this shitty democracy.
            1. Gul
              Gul
              0
              6 October 2013 00: 18
              Well, close and far, the concepts are subjective, but in general, you are on the right path - jihadists also really don’t like shitty democracy, and you have a lot more in common and familiarity with them than you admit. In liberoid countries they wouldn’t even pay attention to the start, well, what can you say, they don’t know how to tighten the nuts, after all, they’re right.
          3. 0
            6 October 2013 00: 15
            Thirdly, people also go to church with their children, and there are these bitches there. Let them perform in rural clubs, but no one needs them there either
            1. Gul
              Gul
              0
              6 October 2013 14: 58
              in short, fool around with your traditional values ​​and other archaics, just leave us alone, don’t lure us into your theocratic swamp, we’ll somehow get along with the Gay Europeans, fortunately, everything is by consent, and they don’t rape, like your Muslims Cossacks
  73. Stepnogorets
    +3
    2 October 2013 19: 19
    Quote: rinat1955
    You read that the mullahs of the European muftiate of the Russian Federation write ... there is a shooting of authoritative muftis adhering to the Islam traditional for the Russian Federation, instead of them, there are Wahhabis. But the secret services are silent.

    100%! Moreover, the media is adding fuel to the fire by calling terrorists and bandits “Islamists”! The state must teach the younger generation to separate flies from cutlets in matters of religion too!
  74. Ddhal
    +2
    2 October 2013 19: 43
    Why are blackcurrants red? Because it's green....

    If you want to live according to Muslim laws, go to Saudi...
    Otherwise, I want to look at beautiful girls in short skirts and set my own rules...
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  76. moar
    -2
    2 October 2013 20: 00
    Idle talkers, with one-sided and narrow thinking, who don’t see anything further than their own nose, judge only from their own bell tower, look for a speck of dust in other people’s eyes, not seeing their own log, and at the same time the state governs you like children for their own benefit, (or rather for specific of people)
  77. In the reeds
    +2
    2 October 2013 20: 06
    Quote: ia-ai00
    I mean it. Traditional Islam has never caused me negative. Christians and Muslims have lived side by side since tsarist times, and to this day, thank God and did not interfere with each other. I wonder how radicals from different countries are LOWING into Russia, these are GANGS!

    Did everyone downvote? Now listen. About 10 years ago I worked in the Erez industrial zone in the Gaza Strip. We had two Arabs, Samir and Mohamed. Samir was a soulful person. Smiling and handsome. He brought us olive oil from Gaza, which was cheaper there, although it was as cloudy as donkey urine. But tasty. I took them at 17.00 to the southern crossing with Gaza. They laughed that I always fasten my seat belt in the Gaza area, according to the law, it is impossible, if, so that I have time to jump out of the car. Years have passed in which gang Samir or Muhamed runs. Muhamed was difficult, he wanted to be like Samir, but he had a soul... And then their children’s peers began to burst into tears in our buses
  78. +2
    2 October 2013 22: 05
    we can talk for a long time about religion. But this is ordinary fascism. Without Islam, they would not have disdained to cling to Orthodoxy. The main thing is that they are allowed to rob, steal, and commit violent acts of any nature. Today on Ekho Moskvy they reported: A crowd of Dagestanis (Muslims) BEATED A 14-YEAR-OLD BOY, PUTTED TO KNEES, THREATING WITH A KNIFE, FORCED TO YELL AGAINST RUSSIA AND THE RUSSIANS, ALLAH AKBAR, ANZHI = CHAMPION I.D. When the analysis begins, it will be the boy’s own fault. And these...
    1. EGORKA
      +2
      3 October 2013 00: 48
      2 teenagers, a Dagestani and a Tajik or Uzbek... sort of like that.
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  80. +1
    2 October 2013 22: 39
    And at this time in Yekaterinburg

    1. 0
      3 October 2013 22: 08
      Well, what do you want from the police? They are all typed from the proverb. Here is the proverb: make a fool pray to God - he will bruise his forehead.
  81. EGORKA
    +2
    2 October 2013 23: 14
    I still hope that the overwhelming majority of Russian Muslims will not fall for such cheap provocations; they still do not live in third world countries and have access to information; they understand that radical extremists are trying to use religion as a tool of terror. As for the global caliphate, then this is a utopia and this is clear to any sane person.
    The example of Syria, where Muslims like this “preacher” kill other “wrong” Muslims is very indicative in this regard, it is indicative that there are forces that use religion as a tool to achieve their interests. And it is clear that such elements cannot produce anything other than destruction, break the existing world order, and what next, a global caliphate among the ruins? I don’t think people want that.
    And of course, it is necessary to fight such manifestations, and first of all, the Muslims themselves and, of course, the authorities, they must somehow join forces and act to nip this in the bud.
  82. Lissa
    +5
    2 October 2013 23: 19
    I watched the video. It's a sad situation, of course. Such “preachers” are diagnosed as “Brainwashed”. And he's a terrible speaker. negative
  83. +1
    2 October 2013 23: 20
    After this, the first exclamations of “Allahu Akbar!” were heard in the crowd, which suggested that either the young man in this very crowd managed to place peculiar heralds in different parts of it,
    If you look more closely at the photo, you can see a little further away the speaker “herald” in the same black cap and with the same beard, probably 99,9%, several more of the same “heralds” are standing in the crowd, and the rest even look a little shocked . But if this is not nipped in the bud, then such attempts may bear fruit. We will wait for the authorities to act.
  84. Lissa
    +2
    2 October 2013 23: 44
    Quote: EGORKA
    I still hope that the overwhelming majority of Russian Muslims will not fall for such cheap provocations


    And there is.

    As for the global caliphate, this is a utopia and this is clear to anyone sane man


    I remembered: “We consider those who share our point of view to be the most reasonable.”

    You can be intelligent (well-read, educated, etc.), but at the same time have a tendency to believe in strange things.

    And of course, it is necessary to fight such manifestations, and first of all, the Muslims themselves and, of course, the authorities, they must somehow join forces and act to nip this in the bud.


    Critical thinking needs to be developed in children! Well, this, of course, is already a solution to many problems in the long term)
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    1. IRON_MAN
      +1
      3 October 2013 06: 29
      His speech is delivered in the same way as that of old babti women who push their headbands on everyone one after the other!!! And this man shouting “tahrir” is VERY similar to the right-wing activist on Eid al-Fitr, look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa1Btak864o
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  87. alexeyal
    +4
    3 October 2013 06: 00
    There is a full-scale war against Russia. The war is going on right now. Few understand this.
    1. A hot war is going on in the Caucasus (terrorist attacks, terrorists, explosions, murders)
    2. Information war against Russia.
    3. Fifth column and outright foreign agents in power
    4. There is a struggle within the government, between patriots and liberals.
    5. Russia does not have full state sovereignty. (Gradual restoration is underway)
  88. IRON_MAN
    +4
    3 October 2013 06: 20
    Muslims, if you see such a speaker, kick him out of the mosque! Take a video, post it online, this will be the best support for Muslims and Islam, insha Allah!
  89. +2
    3 October 2013 10: 14
    Find a person, judge.
  90. 0
    3 October 2013 10: 48
    People! People! Since the summer, all channels have shown how the Federal Migration Service and the Ministry of Internal Affairs are fighting illegal immigration. Yes, they only grab the Chinese and the Vietnamese; they probably don’t offer enough bribes.
  91. +2
    3 October 2013 12: 44
    I'll tell you an example from my life. In one of the provincial African towns, a car stopped near me, and a black man in a sort of spotted shape beckoned to me with his finger and said “psss-psss” (this is a normal method of calling people in Africa). I, naturally, showed him a “no” gesture and, knowing the local specifics, hastened to join “my” blacks. The car parked not far away, the same spotted guys jumped out and quickly rushed to arrest me with the wording “disobeying the order of an immigration officer.” My initially hyperpolite behavior, experience of communicating with them and support of “my” locals led to a peaceful resolution of the conflict. I know many examples when those trying to “pump up their rights” (in fact, simply defending common sense) immediately ended up in jail by decision of the “quick court” (quick courts), and then got them out with difficulty and for a lot of money.
    What am I talking about? Is Africa suffering from migrants?  Or even blacks understand how official services should protect the interests of the state and suppress any forms of disobedience? In any self-respecting country, such rabble would be disavowed. And there is no need to scare people with religious riots; in any riot it is enough to shoot the instigators, the rest will disperse on their own. I understand that the FSB may have a lot of work to do, but PR must be present. In the comments to a similar video on YouTube there should be a video about how this gang of Wahhabites was arrested, during the arrest they resisted, and some were killed, and the rest, who were mutilated during the arrest, were given maximum sentences. Only when the people feel the support of the authorities will they themselves neutralize such provocateurs. Now traditional Muslims are no less frightened by the inaction of the authorities and possible reprisals from extreme groups. They need help in this fight.

    Some kind of cook, literate,
    With the cherries ran his
    In the tavern (he was pious
    And on this day the godfather held a funeral feast),
    And at home, sterei edible from mice
    Kota left.
    But what does he see when he returns? On the floor
    Scraps of cake; and Vaska-Kot in the corner,
    Crouching behind the vinegar barrel
    Purring and grumbling, working on a little chicken.
    "Oh, you glutton! Ah, villain! -
    Here Vaska Cook reproaches, -
    Aren't you ashamed of the walls for you, not just for people?
    (But Vaska nevertheless removes the chicken.)
    How! being an honest cat until then,
    Sometimes, for an example, you seem humility, -
    And you ... so hot, what a shame!
    Now all the neighbors will say:
    "Cat Vaska is a rogue! Cat Vaska is a thief!
    And Vaska de, not just in the kitchen,
    Do not let the yard,
    Like a greedy wolf in a shepherd:
    He is a corruption, he is a plague, he is an ulcer of these places! "
    (And Vaska listens, but eats.)
    Here is my rhetorician, giving free rein to the flow,
    Did not find the end of moralizing,
    But what? While he sang him,
    Vaska’s cat ate all the fries.

    And I would cook differently
    He ordered to hack on the wall:
    So that there is no waste of speeches,
    Where you need the power to use.


    Krylov's fable. Relevant.
    1. IRON_MAN
      0
      3 October 2013 16: 16
      Absolutely correct conclusions! Someone above thinks that they should have tied him up quietly at the exit... no! Public detention, shown on all channels, with condemning comments from the Grand Muftis! The state has completely withdrawn from the information battlefield, and it turns out that there are “interpreters of the truth” only on the radical side.
  92. +1
    3 October 2013 13: 38
    It seems like they lived together for many years, and then suddenly they became unfriendly. Who decided this? The question is of course rhetorical, if not for one “but”. In light of recent events in the world, it becomes clear who controls this whole show. The instigators to answer! Including this “arsonist” in a black hat!
  93. 0
    3 October 2013 15: 02
    Quote: rinat1955
    The problem is that this type is not afraid of spitting blood ... and 10 more will crawl out instead, the same ones, you will start to knit him, and the same shpendric tomorrow this video will be immediately on the net ... reaction, bloody reaction, yourself count.

    Complete nonsense. They are ALL afraid. Again using an example.
    Do you know how the issue of bank robberies in Ghana was resolved?
    Organized crime is weak (due to the inability to organize something), but it exists, legs are growing from Nigeria. 9 out of 10 prisoners are Nigerians. They recruit sixers in the incredibly poor Muslim slums. In February 2012, a bank was robbed, a security guard and a police officer were killed. Searching for criminals and proving their guilt is a very long process and not for local authorities. Languages ​​- everyone you catch and slap in the face, so the organizers were identified very quickly. At night, the military arrived, took the organizers and alleged perpetrators with their families into armored personnel carriers, took them to an unknown direction, shot 18 men, mostly Nigerians, and buried them with a bulldozer; children, wives and elderly people were taken back. Naturally, they did not give up the corpses and never will (what happened?). For the whole country to know, one of the relatives was convicted of slandering the police and the army, which was broadcast on TV for a week. This is so that even the dumbest person can understand what will happen to those who rob banks, much less kill police officers. And what will happen to those who “slander” the police. The result is that despite all the insecurity of banks (1 machine gunner per branch and no systems for locking money, despite the fact that banks are cash registers, all transactions are in cash), for a year and a half there has not been a single attempt to rob a bank, a car, or simply steal money. Even about simply “stealing” is very interesting. The police are trying not to take prisoners. At every opportunity, if there is the slightest suspicion of the presence of a weapon, the robber is turned into a colander, and then this colander is shown on TV for a week. At the same time, they constantly promote the unusually comfortable conditions of stay in local prisons. In principle, it works. For all its inclination to make money by any means, the country is calm. Piss. Unfortunately, today this is the only effective method for normalizing the lives of the absolute majority of the planet's population.
  94. 0
    3 October 2013 15: 43
    No, what kind of people are you? Some pathetic provocateur turned out to be able to set citizens of one country against each other with a couple of clumsy words. That they are already ready to tear apart their neighbors and acquaintances based on nationality and religion? Should you think before you say or do something?
    I don’t care who prays to whom and how, it doesn’t matter as long as he doesn’t go out to rob and kill people. It's not about religion, it's about people. We need to fight not against Islam, but against bandits and terrorists. Stop falling for cheap scams of semi-literate Basmachi, trained politicians and fed by the media.
    1. 0
      3 October 2013 16: 08
      That's right. That is why we advocate that the law be respected. Provocateurs - to the wall! First, question with partiality who paid him the money, and cut off the payers to the very balls.
  95. +3
    3 October 2013 16: 09
    When will it finally dawn on you that we are all on the same side and we have one country for all? We all want peace, a roof over our heads and bread. Instead of harming your neighbor (in word and deed), it would be better to think about how everyone can preserve peace together and prosper to the detriment of their enemies - to the joy of their ancestors. Or is it easier to help provocateurs and enemies by throwing mud at each other on forums?
  96. -2
    3 October 2013 18: 27
    Yes, for me, any religion in general is nonsense. And in the state structure there should not only be no predominance of any one religion, but in general no one should participate in any way.
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  98. swine
    +1
    3 October 2013 19: 34
    We need to catch this speaker and send him to cultivate the forest-tundra.
    The conclusions in the article are correct. This is precisely a provocation.
  99. POBEDA
    +1
    4 October 2013 00: 54
    But I wonder where was the imam of this mosque during this provocation? As is the pop, so is the arrival! Maybe ask him in the Investigative Committee nicely? What does he himself say at the sermon? A?
  100. comraf74
    0
    4 October 2013 04: 06
    Animals. The Russians taught them to urinate while standing, but they stubbornly try to climb back onto the palm tree from which they were taken. In my opinion, the brightest individuals should be euthanized, so as not to clear out this whole herd later.