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Medvedev proposes to tighten the belt on 5%?

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Earlier this week, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev decided to hold a meeting with representatives of the Upper Chamber of the Russian Parliament on the layout of the federal budget, which promises to go in the direction of cutting social spending. Senators came out of their vacations, reviewing photographs of rest on distant shores of exotic countries on iPhones, eating tiramisu, admiring the results of large-scale repairs in the building of the Federation Council, comfortably settling in new chairs, and their plans clearly did not include a discussion of something sharp and negative. Of course, when leather armchairs, tiramisu, euro-repair and memories of "all inclusive", then somehow it is not at all to talk about the budget, which upsets the nerves and stomach. But the conversation still took place.


Dmitry Medvedev announced to a narrow circle of senators that the government had already approved the main financial document of the country, calculated for 2014-2016 years, and announced that the Parliament should also step in with the cabinet, expressing approval to the document. Already by the beginning of October, the budget project will be sent to the Lower Chamber, and if it receives approval (which there is no doubt about it - note by the author), then it will go to the Federation Council, where senators should also put their likes on the document.

So what kind of document does Dmitry Medvedev call for? Let us try to understand, based on the words of the Prime Minister himself, as well as on the current economic situation in Russia.

The prime minister himself, describing the budget project, calls it "the most difficult in recent years." What is the difficulty? It turns out that in the new draft of the state budget there is a need to cut spending by about 5%. At the same time, it is announced that if the state of the Russian economy deteriorates, the reduction may exceed the specified value.



Dmitry Medvedev:

The budget is very difficult, the most difficult in recent years, as well as the situation that has developed in the economy. Now we have no crisis, but there is no development, and we are at a rather difficult point, when recovery growth is over, we don’t have previous incomes, foreign markets are closed to a large extent, and the budget needs to fulfill the huge social obligations we have undertaken in recent years.


The prime minister recalled that when forming the budget, his expenses were reduced by almost all items by 5 per cent, but based on his own quote, it turns out that the cuts are expected by that part of budget expenditures, which concerns the fulfillment of social obligations.

I hope that after we carry out the reorganization of our Armed Forces, we will be able to reconfigure budget spending somewhat, and then a faster growth in spending on education, health and science will begin, the head of government said.

Let us try to translate abstract percentages into concrete rubles and draw on this basis a conclusion about how much financial resources the Russian government lacks in order to fulfill social obligations.

On 2013, the expenditure part of the state budget is set at the level of 13,38 trillion rubles. In 2014, expenses are planned at the level of 14,2 trillion rubles. It turns out that the government proposes to cut the state budget in its expenditures in the amount of 670-710 billion rubles (for the year). At first glance, the sums really look impressive, and it seems that it is difficult to find such funds in the bins of our Homeland so that both the rearmament of the army according to the plan and the work of state-financed organizations can be maintained at the proper level, and pensions with benefits are not paid in full. give in transcendental gave rush.

But this is only at first glance. If you look closely at the formation of the Russian treasury today, you can see more than 50% of its formation based on oil and gas revenues. That is, more than half of the income comes from the sale of gas and oil.

At the same time, budgets of the past years were made up, being tied to the current prices for a barrel of oil (today to the average price of late). At the moment, the price of a barrel of oil at the level of $ 90-91 per barrel is determined as such a base price. However, the last time the price in 90 and less than dollars per barrel in the world market was fixed more than 2,5 years ago. For several months, the price of "black gold" was in the corridor from 105 to 112 dollars for a "barrel". It turns out that only for the last 2-2,5 of the year, the Russian treasury from the sale of oil received 16-24% more revenue than expected at the time of the adoption of the budget. According to forecasts for 2013, Russia should have sold abroad crude oil at the level of 145-150 billions of dollars. This level has already been reached (as of September 2013). Revenue growth due to high oil prices for the year will be at least 800-900 billion rubles.

We recall that our government lacks 670-710 billion rubles annually (for the next three years) to implement social obligations. It would seem that with uncomplicated mathematical calculations it is possible to conclude that with the help of super-profits from the export of crude alone, you can not just cover all this “deficit”, but even think about the implementation of other projects, because there are still 100-200 “extra” billions .

But can simple mathematical calculations keep up with the “triple indefinite integrals” of economists of our cabinet of ministers? If Dmitry Medvedev said that “we don’t have the same income,” it means that the deputies should believe the chairman of the government and participate in sequestering the budget to the delight of Kudrinsky economists. And for these economists, there is only one way to use the super profits coming to the treasury: to put money into a eurodollar capsule, from which to take money "before the crisis - no, no ..."

By the way, about a jug (Reserve Fund). Not so long ago, President Putin proposed to print this fund and use a certain part of its funds for the development of infrastructure projects (construction of roads, bridges, seaports, etc.). It would seem that the decision is more than a sound one. But here there is one important nuance that cannot be passed. Financial resources of the Reserve Fund are placed in foreign currency under the meager 0,7% per annum. At the same time, the Russian authorities declare their desire to attract foreign investors to the development of the Russian infrastructure, who can receive tax and other preferences up to 8,5% per year. It turns out that we give money to the “American uncle” in debt for ridiculous 0,7% and themselves call upon this “uncle” to invest in our projects with input savings in 8,5% per annum only ... Of course, Russia will lose its billions from such a strange manipulation dollars without taking the first step to the beginning of the implementation of infrastructure projects. But are these billions of their own if they are kept by that “overseas uncle”? .. Another “triple integral”, which even prominent mathematicians will not be able to “take”. Therefore, we will not be surprised if American or European companies or banks express a strong desire to participate in the “investment” in the construction of Russian seaports.

We are talking here about the super-profits to the Russian treasury from oil exports, which could cover the 5% deficit mentioned by Medvedev, but at the same time we forget that Russia is a unique state where only 30% of direct sales revenues go directly to the budget oil (in oil-producing Norway, for example, this figure is close to 80%). And these 30%, as already noted, fill the budget by more than half. Where do 70% go? - Yes, all in the same funds and other "institutions" are returned to oil giants for "development." This alone immediately cuts off the opportunity to prepare a “tight patch” for the future budget. So maybe the government and deputies should not think about reducing the funding of social programs, but about revising the use of oil and gas revenues towards efficiency? It would be strange to assume that such a thought did not enter the heads of government economists. It turns out that she came, but they decided to replace it with the thought of reducing social spending. This is much more convenient and faster to implement - chick - and you're done! They pressed the buttons - and forward - to stories that the treasury lacked funds.

PS While the government is calling for a “difficult” budget project, capital outflow from Russia over the past year amounted to $ 70 billion (according to Vladimir Fedotkin, representing the State Duma Committee on Budget and Taxes), $ 65 billion (estimated by Finance Minister Anton Siluanov). More than 8 billion rubles were stolen under the wing of the Oboronservis structure, 39 billion rubles. disappeared from the accounts of "Rosagrolizing", and there is still "Olympstroy", "Resorts of the North Caucasus", etc., etc.

Well, "on the little things" - repair of the meeting room in the building of Sovfeda cost the state treasury 150 million rubles ...
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  1. Docklishin
    Docklishin 27 September 2013 07: 35
    71
    How annoying are these guys angry Z. s. the USSR included 15 republics, so there was enough money for their maintenance + the army, space, education, at the very least, social services, + help to the social bloc. Now we are alone and WHAT ???? As in Vysotsky's song: "Where is Zina's money ..."
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 27 September 2013 07: 39
      46
      Quote: DocKlishin
      "Where is Zina's money ..."

      In the pocket of enlightened managers and dozens of other thieves from the highway.
      1. slacker
        slacker 27 September 2013 07: 57
        57
        perhaps it would be better for the government and deputies not to think about reducing the financing of social programs, but to review the use of oil and gas revenues in the direction of efficiency?


        Medvedev is the visible part of the pro-American sector of the Russian elite.
        Putin - expresses the interests of those who focus mainly on cooperation with Europe.
        Russia needs a ruler who will be neither pro-American nor pro-European, but pro-Russian.
        1. Edward72
          Edward72 27 September 2013 08: 28
          +7
          So I think where Peter 1 with his club.
          1. Russkiy_Prapor
            Russkiy_Prapor 27 September 2013 09: 07
            25
            Peter I was also not a big mind and focused on the west. Again, the bastard brought in tobacco. Ivan the Terrible was the great king, and the last of the legitimate ones, since the Romanov boyars did not have any rights to the table, and these weak and easily-controlled people put seven boyars on the throne after the troubles, so as not to be responsible for all kinds of treason and theft. Only the princes had the right to the Russian throne, but not the boyars. For example, each of the princes who participated in the uprising of the Decembrists had more rights to the crown than the tsar at that time from the Romanov dynasty.
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 27 September 2013 09: 28
              27
              Quote: Russkiy_Prapor
              Peter I was also not a big mind and focused on the west.


              Exactly. From him went worship of foreigners. Drunkenness ... (made the convicted whore the Empress of Russia) and smoking.
              1. bodriy
                bodriy 27 September 2013 10: 45
                15
                Peter also had positive moments ... the Swedes still remember him!, So don’t need so one-sided about him, not Gorbachev anyway hi
                1. Apologet.Ru
                  Apologet.Ru 27 September 2013 12: 43
                  +1
                  hi
                  It must be understood that large-scale floods in the Far East also played a significant role ...
                2. Russkiy_Prapor
                  Russkiy_Prapor 27 September 2013 19: 12
                  12
                  During the reign of Ivan IV the Terrible, the territory of Russia almost doubled, and the country's population, despite almost continuous wars, more than 30%. The number of Russian cities has increased. In the south of the country, the Great Segment Line was created, thanks to which it became possible to develop the lands of the Black Earth Center. The Volga way was opened. The conquest of the Kazan Khanate made it possible to advance further east - to the Urals and Siberia, due to which Yermak's campaign in 1582 took place.
                  Under Ivan the Terrible, the Don Cossack Ermak Timofeevich, together with his detachment, managed to annex the vast and rich Siberian lands to Russia.
                  In October 1582, Yermak’s detachment approached the capital of the Siberian Khanate, Kashlyk.
                  Ermak’s trip to Siberia was of great importance. The defeat of the kingdom of Kuchum opened the way for the resettlement of Russian people beyond the Ural Mountains.
                  Cossacks, peasants, artisans went to Siberia and built fortresses there - the cities of Tyumen and Tobolsk.
                  They contributed to the economic and cultural development of the region.

                  Comrade Stalin was able to achieve sustainable management of the company because he managed the full management function at all six management priorities (significance levels).

                  On the sixth priority, Stalin built the USSR Armed Forces, which, despite the military disasters of 1941 and 1942, caused by the betrayal of the Trotskyists in the country's top administrative corps, managed to defeat Nazi Germany and militaristic Japan.
                  On the fifth priority - Stalin contributed to the cultural development of the population, the spread of physical education and sports and prevented the introduction of drunkenness in culture. There was no question of drugs then.
                  On the fourth priority, Stalin organized the crisis-free development of the national economy of the USSR on the basis of the rejection of loan usurious interest, which allowed not only to restore the country after the wars twice, but also to steadily reduce prices. After all, lowering prices without increasing wages is a concern for the welfare of the people. And this cannot be compared with the current increase in salaries and the simultaneous increase in prices, which makes it possible for usurious structures to profit from the work of people by increasing inflation.
                  History proved Stalin to be right. In a tough confrontation with the global financial mafia, he created the largest gold reserve that Russia had - 2 tons! 500 tons of gold were mined annually in the USSR.
                  These figures expose both the entire post-Stalinist leadership of the USSR and the democrats who inherited it. So, E.T. Gaidar, in an interview in which he explained his understanding of the economic decline that followed the reforms under his leadership, complained that although the Bolsheviks took 1300 tons of gold from the tsar (Gaidar “for some reason” kept silent about Stalin's gold stock), his "team" predecessors left only 296 tons of gold reserves. It should be noted that at that time, only 220 tons of gold were mined in the RSFSR.
                  On the third priority - Stalin in every way contributed to the development of science and technology, the introduction of new technologies. In ideology, Stalin never was a Marxist, but acted on expediency, actually implementing KOB in life, although he was not able to express it lexically. Stalin purposefully brought up the friendship of all the peoples of the USSR.
                  On the second priority - Stalin restored the history and culture of Russia-Russia and all its peoples. Pick up the books published in those years, and you will see it.
                  On the first priority - Stalin eliminated illiteracy among the population of Russia, provided the opportunity to receive an arbitrarily high education for all people, without exception, regardless of their social and national origin. Thus, Stalin crushed the crowd - "elite" system.
                  All the rest of our rulers are simply miserable, worthless mongrels.
                  1. Letterksi
                    Letterksi 27 September 2013 22: 54
                    +3
                    You are probably right. The most basic criterion for the success of a country's leadership is population growth. Under Peter I, the population decreased. Unfortunately, the cult of Peter I, we also owe Stalin. But it was thanks to Stalin that the USSR more or less safely survived several generations of leaders. Already a very big backlog he made
              2. Konsmo
                Konsmo 27 September 2013 13: 50
                +1
                And they lie about Lenin's grandfather as if he was the first to say "that any cook can run the state." bully
                1. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 27 September 2013 14: 32
                  +6
                  Quote: Konsmo
                  And they lie about Lenin's grandfather as if he was the first to say "that any cook can run the state."
              3. Andrey Yuryevich
                Andrey Yuryevich 28 September 2013 04: 19
                +3
                But can you forgive him a little for potatoes? how would we be without her? smile
            2. Siberian German
              Siberian German 27 September 2013 11: 16
              +9
              Semiboyarschina - Semibankirshchina - analogies through centuries
          2. AndreyAB
            AndreyAB 28 September 2013 18: 39
            0
            So Gorbach, a typical Peter 1, only more glamorous, also hated his people and prayed for the "Enlightened West", well, Medvedev was not far behind him.
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 27 September 2013 08: 53
          12
          Quote: Loafer
          Medvedev is the visible part of the pro-American sector of the Russian elite.
          Putin - expresses the interests of those who focus mainly on cooperation with Europe.


          Well, a complete curb.

          Putin in Russian is the chief of Medevedev and all. He became president appointed prime minister.
          1. sashka
            sashka 27 September 2013 09: 16
            11
            Judging by the faces at this time, they are singing the Russian Anthem. Like "boy, I'll show you something else.
          2. Arberes
            Arberes 27 September 2013 09: 18
            23
            Quote: Vadivak
            Putin in Russian is the chief of Medevedev and all. He became president appointed prime minister.

            Do you know my friends why in the photo they have such a pleased look?
            They counted all the holes in the belt on the belt of the PEOPLE, you can tighten it several more times!
            1. Beon
              Beon 27 September 2013 12: 13
              13
              First of all, let them cut down on the expenses of their loved ones. For limousines, renovations, etc. In the Union in the offices of the walls they painted with oil paint and nothing worked.
            2. VAF
              VAF 27 September 2013 12: 24
              +6
              Quote: Arberes
              Do you know my friends why in the photo they have such a pleased look?


              Vito, buddy, +! But you, as a person of art, expressed yourself culturally, and I .... "martyrdom" will directly say - they had, they have and will have it for a long time, unfortunately.
              And the people are .... people in the field request and still not that .. will endure and endure .. under "joyful exclamations about the glory of the Great and Almighty ... Ruler" am

              1. Arberes
                Arberes 27 September 2013 12: 32
                +4
                Quote: vaf
                and I .... "martyrdom" I will say directly - they had, have and will have for a long time, unfortunately.

                I am still a supporter of mutual feelings, can not bring pleasure one-sided love ???
                Maybe it's time for the PEOPLE to fall in love with this power in everything that it is possible to tighten the belt by 5% on her neck, that will be complete reciprocity?
                HELLO SERGEI FRIENDS! drinks
                1. VAF
                  VAF 27 September 2013 13: 04
                  +9
                  Quote: Arberes
                  Maybe it's time PEOPLE to love this power in all that is possible

                  Unfortunately, buddy will not work, because. first of all, this PEOPLE will have to "fuck" themselves, because I deeply doubt that this PEOPLE was driven to the ballot boxes with sticks and forcibly at the elections. to omit the bulletin for ... the savior of the Fatherland ... after all, if not he, then who ??? wassat
                  So why be surprised now ???? Everything is great with them. Everyone is alive and well, and who "vyaknul" across ... are steaming on the bunk. right away ... "coup" you know lol
                  So all that remains is to contemplate this obscenity and .. on the sites "let off steam".
                  So then the people who fellow , he remains with them, but the rest of the PEOPLE ... this one in ... a field wassat
                  1. Arberes
                    Arberes 27 September 2013 13: 17
                    +5
                    Quote: vaf
                    that this PEOPLE with sticks and by force drove in the elections to the ballot boxes.

                    I have a friend. His mother works at school, and so she once spoke to him about these elections. There Edros include such an administrative press, all teachers were forced to lie. They called back at schools according to the results of the past elections, and God forbid Edro is not in the first place, threats begin immediately, and teachers have to deal with lies! In the temple of education to sow lies !!!
                    I will not distort, of course, many people voted consciously for VVP, but the percentage that they presented to the people is far from the truth!
                    Is there such a magician CHUROV he that you want to fix?
                    By the way, the topic, it will be necessary to rhyme about it?
                    1. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 27 September 2013 14: 36
                      +4
                      Quote: Arberes
                      There Edros include such an administrative press, all teachers were forced to lie.
                  2. Andrey Yuryevich
                    Andrey Yuryevich 28 September 2013 04: 26
                    +5
                    After all, I deeply doubt that this PEOPLE was driven by sticks and by force at the elections to the ballot boxes. to omit the bulletin for ... the savior of the Fatherland ... after all, if not he, then who ??? wassat ((((((((((let me disappoint you ... at the technical school where my wife teaches), they had to "vote" as a SHOULD, and report, otherwise, the street ... how they tracked who was not I know, but it was.
        3. Airman
          Airman 27 September 2013 09: 03
          13
          Quote: Loafer


          Medvedev is the visible part of the pro-American sector of the Russian elite.
          Putin - expresses the interests of those who focus mainly on cooperation with Europe.
          Russia needs a ruler who will be neither pro-American nor pro-European, but pro-Russian.

          No matter how he feeds the wolf, he looks into the forest, and the oligarchs, no matter how much they give, will still flee west. But our powers that be are also oligarchs (clandestine), and not disinterested, they don’t give a damn about the people.
          1. turan_up
            turan_up 27 September 2013 12: 19
            -1
            The trouble with Putin is that half of the country was sold to the West during Yeltsin. 2/3 of the officials are crooks who are patronized by grantees and ambassadors from Western democracies.
            1. Hon
              Hon 27 September 2013 13: 13
              10
              Poor poor Putin
              1. Alex Nick
                Alex Nick 27 September 2013 18: 45
                +3
                But much poorer, we don’t even understand millionaires
        4. atalef
          atalef 27 September 2013 10: 40
          17
          Quote: Loafer
          Medvedev is the visible part of the pro-American sector of the Russian elite.
          Putin - expresses the interests of those who focus mainly on cooperation with Europe.

          Stop fooling yourself. Medvedev puppet in the hands of Putin. that lightning rod which draws upon itself the discontent of the masses (whipping boy 0. so that someone would remain white and fluffy. Does anyone still have illusions that DAM is an independent political figure, leading an independent, contrary to the president’s wishes, politician.
          We have been talking about budget sequestration for a long time. yet (damned by all Kudrin), of course, the GDP was captive to its illusions about doubling the country's GDP. but man assumes, but realities are completely different. GDP growth rates not only did not increase; they began to fall, but pensions promises. social and defense were taken into account not only the rainbow dreams of GDP growth, but also rising gas and oil prices. Not a single one happened. not a second. not a third (and how it can happen) because oil and gas prices are not at the mercy of Putin. and for GDP growth, they did nothing. But they spent tens (and will spend even tens) of billions on the Olympics, ASTEC, the World Cup and Syria. Projects are a caliph for an hour (everyone has eaten, patted) But as in the old Russian proverb - WE WALKED AMOUNT, CALCULATED - WERE MOVED
          And now, largely due to these controversial projects and inappropriate promises, it will be necessary to reduce pensions, benefits, healthcare and many social services. programs.
          It is not necessary to bring down all the cones of not DAM (the position he has is such a bitch, he was chosen for this, he pulls this strap).
          1. RussianRu
            RussianRu 27 September 2013 11: 26
            -3
            "No need to blame all the bumps on the LADY (his position is such a bough, for this he was chosen, and pulls this strap."
            And what about the ladies? He is quite educated and the funny thing is he is an adult and self-sufficient person. (example; Kudrin showed with his demarche that DAM is not at all a puppet, another example; DAM passed Libya). So a completely independent politician. So do not talk about the puppet.
            1. Valkyrie
              Valkyrie 27 September 2013 11: 45
              +2
              How "well" educated he is can be seen from his speech. Do you think that all his decisions were his personal initiative in spite of all the good uncles who very strongly discouraged him from doing bad things, for example, to hand over Libya?
              1. RussianRu
                RussianRu 27 September 2013 12: 02
                0
                Approximately 9min09sec. Words of a true liberalist. Can a liberalist be a puppet of a security official? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IHSn6LpYIY
                Uncles dissuaded him.
                1. Valkyrie
                  Valkyrie 27 September 2013 13: 08
                  -1
                  This video is very fresh. Now they will tell you whatever. Medvedev is to blame for everything! There is always a "cloven-hoofed animal with horns" of scapegoat for such cases, on which you can then blame everything. Maybe this Chamov is a decent person, but one in the field is not a warrior. Can you fight the whole system?
                  1. RussianRu
                    RussianRu 27 September 2013 15: 58
                    -3
                    We have two systems now in conflict. These are liberals and security forces (let’s say). Medvedev is not alone in his vision of everything related to politics and the economy. If DAM was a puppet, then the entire government that worked with Putin would not refuse to work with DAM. The fact that they comment on the video is not particularly interesting to me, the words of Medvedev himself about the well-being of the Libyan people turned out to be interesting to me. Not true, it seems like the rhetoric of the West and the USA.
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                  2. RussianRu
                    RussianRu 2 October 2013 15: 21
                    0
                    http://telegrafist.org/2013/10/02/90322/
          2. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 27 September 2013 11: 41
            12
            Quote: atalef
            neither did anything for GDP growth

            You are mistaken - for the growth of GDP prices have been boosted by tariffs - 16 times in 12 years laughing
            1. abdrah
              abdrah 28 September 2013 03: 14
              -3
              I've been looking at you yarosvet for a long time, something in your posts only shows through "" "" everyone fucked up! "and no constructivism, if the authorities are so tired, then welcome to the square (Maidan, place of execution) with your platform of action, you see me I will look at a rational idea, I will catch up with my comrades and support you in your difficult path of a new truth.
              but if the whole season begins after Malka and two beers in front of Claudia after work, then high God covers from such an inspirer!
              1. kris
                kris 28 September 2013 11: 35
                0
                Quote: abdrah
                if you are so tired of power, then welcome to the square (Maidan, frontal place) with your platform of action

                the government has banned such meetings!
              2. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 28 September 2013 15: 53
                0
                Quote: abdrah
                I have been looking at you for a long time

                And don't look at me - you somehow take a thin booklet with the "Constitution of the Russian Federation" written on the cover and read it (paying special attention to the 1st, 2nd and 4th) chapter.
                Then compare what is written with what is happening in the Russian Federation.

                As soon as you do the above, all questions will disappear by themselves.
          3. user
            user 27 September 2013 23: 24
            +3
            No need to sculpt a fool from iPhone who leaked Libya, VP (on TV though) wrote as much as boiling water. It is clear that the current government is made on all sorts of agreements and balances, but we don’t need to make idiots out of us.
        5. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 27 September 2013 11: 35
          +6
          Quote: Loafer
          Medvedev is the visible part of the pro-American sector of the Russian elite.
          Putin - expresses the interests of those who focus mainly on cooperation with Europe
          How was it determined? laughing

          Russia needs a ruler who will be neither pro-American nor pro-European, but pro-Russian.
          Russia needs democracy, it is democracy, it is the power of the Soviets.

          Goal-setting should be carried out by the people, and the so-called "ruler" should only be the supreme coordinator and exercise control over the process of achieving the goals set by the citizens.
          1. plebs
            plebs 27 September 2013 20: 06
            +2
            Russia needs democracy, it is democracy, it is the power of the Soviets
            it’s self-government, then you can reduce the official gang and give small businesses a sigh, that's money.
            1. olviko
              olviko 28 September 2013 07: 20
              -1
              no, Russian democracy is not needed, again we will choose Yeltsin!
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 28 September 2013 16: 01
                -2
                Quote: olviko
                no, Russian democracy is not needed, again we will choose Yeltsin!

                Of course, I congratulate you on the fact that you chose EBN, but democracy is not only and not so much an election.

                Power is the ability and ability to set and realize goals, that is, in relation to reality - you choose a deputy from a certain group of people (with the possibility of recalling that deputy at any time), which broadcasts your view on a particular problem.

                The communist-Bolshevik "Power of the Soviets" is democracy.
                1. olviko
                  olviko 28 September 2013 17: 38
                  0
                  "The Communist-Bolshevik" Power of the Soviets "is democracy."
                  Which eventually collapsed the USSR! Sorry, this has already passed. And your congratulations, thank you of course, but not at the address, it was just those chukhans who most of all love to talk about democracy.
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 30 September 2013 16: 54
                    -1
                    Quote: olviko
                    Which eventually collapsed the USSR!
                    But in the USSR was the power of the Soviets? laughing

                    But the Union fell, it must be understood, fiery communists, whose actions and way of thinking exactly corresponded to the code of the builder of communism?
        6. Oleg14774
          Oleg14774 27 September 2013 16: 36
          +6
          Quote: Loafer
          Russia needs a ruler who will be neither pro-American nor pro-European, but pro-Russian.

          Unfortunately, there is no second Stalin! It's a pity!
        7. Aryan
          Aryan 27 September 2013 21: 19
          0
          wanted to get up and hit the table
          but it turned out to fart and fall ... laughing
        8. Skiff-2
          Skiff-2 27 September 2013 22: 39
          +1
          Quote: Loafer
          Putin - expresses the interests of those who focus mainly on cooperation with Europe.
          Russia needs a ruler who will be neither pro-American nor pro-European, but pro-Russian.

          Putin plays on the contradictions of the West and, having in his hands obviously weaker cards, re-plays them round after round. Putin is a man of honor, this is a Russian man and this man is in his place. This person said that the government will finalize before the end of the year (so that there is something to remove), that means that by the end of the year it will finalize, give a report personally in the person of each minister and deserve to resign (because Putin keeps his word) and there will be a new government in the light of it Valdai speech. Until the time the Russian princes sent tribute to the Horde, but only until the time ... and where is that Horde? ... and this one will be there. Sincerely .
        9. AndreyAB
          AndreyAB 28 September 2013 18: 37
          +1
          I agree and, above all, conscience should be.
      2. Airman
        Airman 27 September 2013 09: 18
        13
        [quote = tronin.maxim]; [/ quote]
        In the pocket of enlightened managers and dozens of other thieves from the highway. [/ Quote]
        Medvedev needs to tighten his belt, reducing the monetary "reward" to himself and his hangers-on by 10%, and not remove the latter from the people. They are up there with fat rage.
      3. Vadivak
        Vadivak 27 September 2013 09: 25
        31
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        Now we are alone


        That we were alone. And now we are not alone. Now they are tearing us all and sundry. Take any large office. The same Uralkal under which Misha Leontyev crawled here and Belarusians arrested the enemies of our Russian Baumgentner

        We read the founders of Uralkal
        Kaliha finance ltd (Cyprus)
        The Bank of New York International Nominees (United States)
        Becounioco holdings limited (Cyprus)
        Aerellia investtments limited (Cyprus)
        Madura Holding limited (Cyprus)

        Where is Russia here?
        1. military
          military 27 September 2013 10: 33
          20
          Quote: Vadivak
          Ah Belarusians the enemies of our Russian Baumgentner arrested

          and another smiled at me ...
          I remembered that the guarantor had repeatedly received requests for personal interference in this or that judicial and investigative arbitrariness ... and its eternal "... I consider it unacceptable" ...
          and then they took the top manager by the gills ... and who took it? ... the special services of the union state ... banal criminality is incriminated ... why should the guarantor flutter? ... wait until the investigation is over and the case is brought to court ... the court of the same union state ... but, no! ... now the guarantor is ready to meet with Batka and discuss the "Uralkali problem" ... but Uralkali has no problem ... only this Baumgertner ... our guarantor does not believe in the fairness of Belarusian justice, even if you crack it! ... of course, this "baum" is not Kvachkov, and not Khabarov ... he is his ... but washes his hand ...
          1. Valkyrie
            Valkyrie 27 September 2013 11: 53
            10
            It is a pity that the Old Man cannot intercede for Kvachkov and Khabarov.
          2. Airman
            Airman 27 September 2013 19: 11
            0
            Quote: military
            Quote: Vadivak
            Ah Belarusians the enemies of our Russian Baumgentner arrested

            and another smiled at me ...
            I remembered that the guarantor had repeatedly received requests for personal interference in this or that judicial and investigative arbitrariness ... and its eternal "... I consider it unacceptable" ...
            and then they took the top manager by the gills ... and who took it? ... the special services of the union state ... banal criminality is incriminated ... why should the guarantor flutter? ... wait until the investigation is over and the case is brought to court ... the court of the same union state ... but, no! ... now the guarantor is ready to meet with Batka and discuss the "Uralkali problem" ... but Uralkali has no problem ... only this Baumgertner ... our guarantor does not believe in the fairness of Belarusian justice, even if you crack it! ... of course, this "baum" is not Kvachkov, and not Khabarov ... he is his ... but washes his hand ...

            And he pours (puts) into a glass, that is, a bank.
          3. 31231
            31231 27 September 2013 20: 10
            0
            Yes, as if Woland had already met with father. As a result, Karimov sells his part of Uralkali, DAM gossiped about the crisis in the economy. Even rumors appeared that Dvorkovich began to shove his stuff.
        2. yanus
          yanus 27 September 2013 10: 35
          -15 qualifying.
          Quote: Vadivak
          We read the founders of Uralkal
          Kaliha finance ltd (Cyprus)
          The Bank of New York International Nominees (United States)
          Becounioco holdings limited (Cyprus)
          Aerellia investtments limited (Cyprus)
          Madura Holding limited (Cyprus)

          Where is Russia here?

          Do you understand the difference between "founder" and "owner" well?
          PS Uralkali pays taxes and duties on the territory of the Russian Federation. This is just in case
          1. fzr1000
            fzr1000 27 September 2013 11: 07
            +9
            And where does the profit go? Or is it a penny in your opinion?
            1. yanus
              yanus 27 September 2013 11: 52
              -6
              Quote: fzr1000
              And where does the profit go? Or is it a penny in your opinion?

              Once again, focus. Do you understand the difference between "founder" and "owner"?
              1. Valkyrie
                Valkyrie 27 September 2013 11: 58
                +5
                No difference. Founders are co-owners.
                1. yanus
                  yanus 27 September 2013 12: 08
                  -2
                  Quote: Valkyrie
                  No difference. Founders are co-owners.

                  That is, if I now buy a dozen shares of Uralkali on the MICEX, will I become a "founder"? )))
                  Don't screw up nonsense. For Uralkali, the list of "founders" and the list of "owners" may not coincide at all. More precisely, it does not exactly match. For example, the Chinese recently bought a 12.5% ​​stake in Uralkali. Are they now also "founders"? )))
                  1. 225chay
                    225chay 27 September 2013 12: 33
                    +2
                    Quote: yanus
                    That is, if I now buy a dozen shares of Uralkali on the MICEX, will I become a "founder"? )))

                    Do not be surprised! People like you are thief advocates and buy stocks
                  2. military
                    military 27 September 2013 12: 38
                    +3
                    Quote: yanus
                    That is, if I now buy a dozen shares of Uralkali on the MICEX, will I become a "founder"? )))

                    do not worry ... you will not become either one or the other ...
                    and if you try to buy up any significant package from minority shareholders - your legs will just be torn quietly ... drinks
                  3. Valkyrie
                    Valkyrie 27 September 2013 12: 43
                    0
                    A joint-stock company is an economic company established by one or several persons, whose authorized capital is divided into shares of a certain nominal value. The founders (Shareholders) of the Joint Stock Company may be legal entities and citizens of the Russian Federation, foreign individuals and legal entities. The number of founders (shareholders) of an open joint-stock company is not limited; the number of founders (shareholders) of a closed joint-stock company must not exceed fifty.
                  4. Valkyrie
                    Valkyrie 27 September 2013 13: 00
                    +2
                    They will certainly not be sold to you on the cheap. Raider capture is carried out with the help of close persons or in something dependent.
                    1. PSih2097
                      PSih2097 27 September 2013 13: 08
                      +2
                      Quote: Valkyrie
                      They will certainly not be sold to you on the cheap. Raider capture is carried out with the help of close persons or in something dependent.

                      it’s not necessary, the main thing is that the security forces be their own, and the court order can be fake, and when they figure it out, the assets of the joint-stock company have already sailed away in an unknown direction, or have changed a bunch of owners ...
                      1. Valkyrie
                        Valkyrie 27 September 2013 13: 15
                        +4
                        That is certain, no doubt. This is done.
                  5. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 27 September 2013 13: 04
                    +3
                    Quote: yanus
                    That is, if I now buy a dozen shares of Uralkali on the MICEX, will I become a "founder"? )))
                    Shareholder.

                    For example, the Chinese recently bought a 12.5% ​​stake in Uralkali. Are they now also "founders"? )))
                    Shareholders

                    My dear, do not drive the blizzard - take the trouble to get into the dictionary and do not show your ignorance anymore.
            2. 31231
              31231 27 September 2013 20: 20
              +1
              And what would be the owner of our legarch, then the profit would remain with us ?! Each owner spends net profit at his discretion. Another thing is that the Karimovs, Prokhorovs and other Abramovichs often take her abroad.
          2. 225chay
            225chay 27 September 2013 12: 31
            0
            Quote: yanus
            PS Uralkali pays taxes and duties on the territory of the Russian Federation. This is just in case

            Yeah, a huge amount! About ten kopecks .......
            1. Valkyrie
              Valkyrie 27 September 2013 12: 54
              +1
              Hardly even 10 cents.
          3. user
            user 28 September 2013 11: 28
            0
            If you are interested in googling how in Russia this type of company pays taxes and how the deductors are taxed and you just don’t need to say that the laws were written by us, they were written at the time under the dictation of the AMERICANS. Well, quickly get out of this will not work
      4. military
        military 27 September 2013 09: 35
        +3
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        In the pocket of enlightened managers and dozens of other thieves from the highway.

        with a roundabout ... around the Kremlin and the government house ...
      5. Internal combustion engine
        Internal combustion engine 27 September 2013 10: 01
        +2
        The oligarchs of Russian and foreign.
      6. olviko
        olviko 28 September 2013 07: 24
        +2
        "Where is Zina's money ..


        Clinton at the committee of chiefs of staff: "I congratulate you on the fact that in the person of Russia we have received a raw material appendage, a state not destroyed by the atom, which would not have been easy to create. This is Yeltsin's great merit, for four years of his power, we and our allies have received different strategic raw materials worth 15 billion dollars, hundreds of tons of gold, precious stones, etc. For non-existent projects, we were sold for negligible amounts over 20 thousand tons of copper, almost 50 thousand tons of aluminum, 2 thousand tons of cesium, beryllium, strontium, etc. Our task, together with the Kremlin, is to try in every possible way to prevent the communists from coming to power. With the help of our friends, create such preconditions that all imaginable and inconceivable obstacles for the left parties would be put in the parliamentary race. Special attention should be paid to the presidential elections. country suits us in all respects ... By ensuring that Yeltsin takes the presidency for a second term, we will thereby create a testing ground from which we will never leave eat" .
        Well, tests at the test site are in full swing!
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 28 September 2013 16: 07
          0
          Quote: olviko
          Our task, together with the Kremlin, is to make every effort to prevent communists from taking power.

          I don’t know where you got it from, but I have highlighted a key phrase - that’s all.
          1. olviko
            olviko 28 September 2013 17: 41
            0
            "Where did you get this from?"
            Snowden whispered.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 30 September 2013 16: 57
              0
              Quote: olviko
              "Where did you get this from?"
              Snowden whispered.

              You are inconsistent - in your opinion it turns out that mattresses are doing a good thing, trying to keep the communists out of power.
    2. Canep
      Canep 27 September 2013 07: 41
      17
      With such oil prices, talking about budget cuts is like saying: "It's not enough for oligarchs, we need to share with them." I wonder when Putin will send this major to lead some sort of "Rosmikro" or "Rosmakro".
      1. Valery Neonov
        Valery Neonov 27 September 2013 07: 48
        16
        So after all he sent: Dmitry Medvedev headed the commission for the development of the Far East ... We are waiting for the results with trembling knees ... request
        1. military
          military 27 September 2013 12: 20
          +4
          Quote: Valery Neonov
          So after all he sent: Dmitry Medvedev headed the commission for the development of the Far East ...

          "All the animals in a friendly crowd
          Dreamed to measure the crop,
          Only the owl shook his head:
          "Found someone to entrust the cabbage!"

          (from the fable "Goat and Cabbage")
      2. fennekRUS
        fennekRUS 27 September 2013 09: 23
        18
        offtopic from the comments of another article-Social Advertising
        We have already deceived you more than once. You defended us in the fall of 91, we shot at you in the fall of 93. We ruined your country in 90, robbed it in 92, fooled it with two Volgas in 93, with the help of MMMs spread it to grandmothers in 94, sent your children to the slaughterhouse in 95, did a good job of repeating "in 96th, and completely oiled in 98th.
        But y we ran out of money again.
        PLEASE PAY TAXES.
      3. Airman
        Airman 27 September 2013 19: 19
        0
        Quote: Canep
        With such oil prices, talking about budget cuts is like saying: "It's not enough for oligarchs, we need to share with them." I wonder when Putin will send this major to lead some sort of "Rosmikro" or "Rosmakro".

        While Putin is in power, this will not happen, DAM he needs to push through unpopular laws. Reform of the RAS, the space industry, the education system and so on.
    3. alicante11
      alicante11 27 September 2013 08: 23
      10
      "Where is Zina's money ..."


      In the pockets of the oligarchs. You forget that in the USSR there were no oligarchs who needed to build the longest yachts in the world and buy foreign football clubs.
      1. zanoza
        zanoza 27 September 2013 10: 13
        +7
        You are not following the right path, comrades ...
        ,
    4. APASUS
      APASUS 27 September 2013 10: 19
      +1
      Quote: DocKlishin
      "Where is Zina's money ..."

      Despite the fact that almost all Asian countries have similar budgets producing oil. And we have a problem!
      But this is only at first glance. If you look closely at the formation of the Russian treasury today, you can see more than 50% of its formation based on oil and gas revenues. That is, more than half of the income comes from the sale of gas and oil.
    5. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 27 September 2013 10: 43
      15
      Quote: DocKlishin
      "Where is Zina's money ..."

      In America, Vova, in America. I liked one of Medvedev's pearls: "It's time for the Russians to stop thinking that the state is obliged to take care of them." And this despite the fact that he is a lawyer. The direct duty of the state is to take care of its citizens, Dmitry Anatolyevich, or Averbakhovich, whatever you are! This is written in Roman law, do you not know!
      1. 225chay
        225chay 27 September 2013 12: 36
        +4
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        or Averbakhovich, how are you there!

        ))) Aronovich))
    6. bodriy
      bodriy 27 September 2013 10: 52
      +5
      how it all their impudence exhausts, one after another, one after another ... let's create a party or something, and it’s time to go to the polls to drive this plague from our homeland !!! and the commies now judging by their actions are quite a Kremlin project!
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 27 September 2013 12: 43
        +1
        let's create a party or something, and for the elections, it’s time to drive this plague from our homeland

        Party "TopWar.ru" - and what sounds ... and if you look at the flags of members of the forum, it will turn out very democratic ...
        Quote: bodriy
        judging by their actions, the current commies are quite a Kremlin project!

        they (the top of the Communist Party) simply snickered, as they say-the tops nah ... nothing is needed, and the lower classes can not do anything ...
        1. Icestar777
          Icestar777 27 September 2013 13: 37
          0
          Quote: PSih2097
          and the lower classes cannot do anything ...

          Why can't they? They can! Create a party "TopWar.ru". And start running the country online.
    7. Fin
      Fin 27 September 2013 11: 00
      +4
      Quote: DocKlishin
      Z.Y. the USSR was made up of 15 republics, so there was enough money for their maintenance + army, space, education, poorly social group, + help to the social bloc.

      And Africa was armed and fed.
      There are mountains of money in the country. Upgrade production, build housing, develop science. He put on pink glasses and sits in a fairy tale, life was a success, beyond the Moscow Ring Road he sees nothing. Useless person.
      And how do you like his last "initiative" to raise the state duty for divorce to 30 tr? Delirium gushes.
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 27 September 2013 11: 47
        +2
        Quote: Fin
        There are mountains of money in the country. Upgrade production, build housing, develop science
        1. turan_up
          turan_up 27 September 2013 12: 24
          -6
          yeah! will the president himself run and build and develop everywhere ??! That's right - officials are needed! And if 90% of the officials are homegrown liberals whom the West dictates what to do and what not to do ??
          1. Hon
            Hon 27 September 2013 13: 18
            +1
            As I wrote earlier, poor-poor Putin
          2. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 27 September 2013 13: 23
            +4
            Quote: turan_up
            yeah! will the president himself run and build and develop everywhere ??!
            What is written in the Constitution that is not written in Russian? He determines the direction of politics.

            And if 90% of officials are homegrown liberals
            Vova appoints a homegrown liberal as prime minister (and somehow made him president).
            He appoints home-grown liberals to the positions of deputy prime ministers and federal ministers (they, in turn, pick up guys for themselves, these guys pick up other guys for themselves, etc. - this is how the pyramid / vertical of power is formed)
            Has the authority to fire them to hell, but does not.

            Are some nameless officials to blame for the above? laughing

            which the West dictates what to do and what not to do ??
            And why is there such confidence that the West is dictating something to them, and that it is dictating to officials, not to Putin?
            Well, justify this statement.

            And comment on this position of the "patriotic" president:

            - and his press secretary:
        2. Fin
          Fin 27 September 2013 13: 51
          -2
          It is clear that the president appoints, represents, determines, answers .... and is to blame.
          But does anyone remember the useful things DAM did?
          He just doesn’t do a damn thing, but you don’t know how to blurt out something, crying or laughing.
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 27 September 2013 14: 45
            +1
            Quote: Fin
            But does anyone remember the useful things DAM did?

            If formally, then 08.08.08, although the introduction of troops into Georgia occurred in violation of paragraph d) of Article 102 of the Constitution.

            If it’s real, then this is completely unimportant, since everyone perfectly remembers how he got into Power.
    8. Siberian German
      Siberian German 27 September 2013 11: 14
      18
      Tsuka - he talks about cutbacks - yesterday my mother-in-law found out her pension for 34 years of experience in the countryside - 5400 - and she was drunk six months working there and there because 5900 became disabled. they forced us to hand over 500 rubles each to restore the Far East with a salary of 15000. And we also have an average salary of 30000 in the country. Let's just like in a joke - we cut off this susanin’s leg, otherwise this government leads our country where it’s like in the ass
      1. military
        military 27 September 2013 11: 49
        +5
        Quote: Siberian German
        Let's just like in a joke - we cut off this susanin’s leg, otherwise this government leads our country where it’s like in the ass

        in doing so, it invites us to relax and enjoy the "journey" ... am
      2. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 27 September 2013 11: 50
        0
        Quote: Siberian German
        this government leads our country where it feels like in the ass
        1. optimist
          optimist 27 September 2013 12: 22
          +9
          It is already clear to all more or less smart people who is the main pid @ r in the country !!!
          1. military
            military 27 September 2013 13: 15
            +4
            Quote: optimist
            It is already clear to all more or less smart people who is the main pid @ r in the country !!!

            it already inspires some optimism ... drinks
            1. optimist
              optimist 27 September 2013 18: 01
              +3
              Quote: military
              it already inspires some optimism ...

              Here I am about the same! The problem begins to be solved only when the majority is aware of it !!!
          2. Gordeich
            Gordeich 27 September 2013 18: 03
            0
            Quote: optimist
            It is already clear to all more or less smart people who is the main pid @ r in the country !!!

            That's how many articles I read on the site about Medvedev, I always wanted to leave such a comment, but I was "shy". the one about whom "more or less quick-witted people and so clearly" are very touchy and vindictive up to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
    9. kris
      kris 27 September 2013 11: 44
      +5
      Quote: DocKlishin
      How are these guys annoying me? the USSR included 15 republics, so there was enough money for their maintenance + the army, space, education, at the very least, social services, + help to the social bloc. Now we are alone and WHAT ???? As in Vysotsky's song: "Where is the money Zina ...

      and you ask Putin about it!
      1. military
        military 27 September 2013 11: 54
        +3
        Quote: kris
        and you ask Putin about it!

        they asked ... he is afraid that he did not take the treasury ... winked
      2. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 27 September 2013 12: 09
        +6
        Quote: kris
        and you ask Putin about it!
        1. military
          military 27 September 2013 12: 32
          +5
          where is the money? ... where is the money? ...
          remember the joke? ...
          "- Fighters, do the birds need money?
          - Why the hell are they to them, Vasily Ivanovich?
          - Right! ... Well, so, the eagles ... I drank your money ... " what
    10. Vovka levka
      Vovka levka 27 September 2013 13: 52
      0
      Quote: DocKlishin
      Where is Zina's money ... "

      Hahaal Zina.
    11. OTTO
      OTTO 27 September 2013 15: 09
      +4
      Quote: DocKlishin
      the USSR included 15 republics, so there was enough money

      Not a single Stalinist People's Commissar, not a single party apparatchik of the Brezhnev era could have dreamed of the bonuses that our ... "effective managers" have. At the same time, at least the people's commissars worked much more efficiently (the incentive was good).
    12. ka5280
      ka5280 27 September 2013 17: 09
      +1
      Just the USSR was a closed state. And the theft of money, just like that, could not be taken offshore. Yes, and put to the wall for such pranks without long conversations. If you want to live in a strong country, this country should be with tightly closed borders. And the internal thieves will not take away the stolen and foreign shit does not flow to us.
    13. GUSAR
      GUSAR 27 September 2013 17: 10
      +2
      Yeah, there was enough money to support all sorts of people who were in the cold, and the middle zone of Russia was originally Russian land under the USSR, which was vegetated in poverty, except MOSCOW, of course
    14. honest jew
      honest jew 27 September 2013 19: 25
      0
      Or maybe Medvedev is better to tighten the noose around his neck? AND? How do you think?
    15. AndreyAB
      AndreyAB 28 September 2013 18: 32
      0
      A counter proposal, to tighten the belts in the State Duma and the government, for unsatisfactory work, since it turned out so in the country, then the parliamentarians and the government have not finalized, otherwise why the hell are they needed? The congress in the USSR was convened once every four years and there were dozens of bad laws, and lawmaking in the Duma became a daily hobby, which led to a reduction in the financing of social programs and the defense industry, and it should be different if it got it calculated and they calculated in warm places stress was relieved, loafers. And the embezzler and traitor of the Motherland Serdyukov with his ice should return the loot - this is a matter of honor for the president and the prime minister, if this bastard is hearty white and fluffy, why such leaders and laws?
  2. Xmypp
    Xmypp 27 September 2013 07: 38
    23
    Maybe you can’t say that, but I have a great desire for this creature to die faster.
    1. july
      july 27 September 2013 09: 02
      +2
      It is advisable to quickly, but with torment.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 27 September 2013 11: 02
        +1
        Quote: July
        It is advisable to quickly, but with torment.

        Maybe count?
        1. military
          military 27 September 2013 13: 18
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Maybe count?

          count ... an injection ... what difference does it make? ... good
    2. Russkiy_Prapor
      Russkiy_Prapor 27 September 2013 09: 08
      +2
      Quote: Xmypp
      Maybe you can’t say that, but I have a great desire for this creature to die faster.


      Support.
    3. Airman
      Airman 27 September 2013 09: 10
      +5
      Quote: Xmypp
      Maybe you can’t say that, but I have a great desire for this creature to die faster.

      And why should he die, he lives for his own pleasure, without needing anything, does not overwork himself with "state" affairs. Everyone is waiting to be "helped" to go ... to the west.
      1. military
        military 27 September 2013 11: 57
        +1
        Quote: Povshnik
        Everyone is waiting to be "helped" to go ... west.

        strange ... according to Kipling ... Tobaccos with Sher Khan were supposed to go north ...
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 27 September 2013 12: 25
          +1
          Quote: military
          strange ... according to Kipling ... Tobaccos with Sher Khan were supposed to go north ...

          The shortest way to the USA. Send a rocket as a warhead.
          1. military
            military 27 September 2013 12: 45
            +2
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            The shortest way to the USA. Send a rocket as a warhead.

            too valuable cargo ... more reliable by "Proton" ... by reversing the polarity of the angular velocity sensors ... to guarantee ... laughing
    4. Gato
      Gato 27 September 2013 10: 14
      +1
      Quote: Xmypp
      Maybe you can’t say that, but I have a great desire for this creature to die faster.

      Which one?
    5. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 27 September 2013 16: 52
      +5
      Quote: Xmypp
      so that this creature dies faster.

      you will not wait, his food is excellent, and he isn’t worth queuing at the polyclinic, he will outlive you, and he will also write memoirs about his “great” role in the revival of Russia, and what will it give?will appoint
      Medvedev-2, or Zaitsev-1, or the same Surkov, Dvorkovich, Chubais, finally, according to Putin, they are effective
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 27 September 2013 17: 27
        +2
        Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
        according to Putin-they are effective
  3. j iz sibiri
    j iz sibiri 27 September 2013 07: 39
    +3
    when it's all over
    1. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell 27 September 2013 08: 05
      +6
      when it's all over

      That's just as will it all end? ...
      1. j iz sibiri
        j iz sibiri 27 September 2013 08: 08
        +5
        as always with us
    2. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 27 September 2013 09: 48
      +8
      Quote: j iz sibiri
      when it's all over

      ... when we will not vote for United Russia ... having succumbed to the cheap propaganda of this party, led by those who want to quickly "throw back" their legs here ... and even with torment ... And we will not sit in apartments and protest only in the kitchen after the fifth "stopper" ....
      1. j iz sibiri
        j iz sibiri 27 September 2013 10: 00
        +4
        no one has voted for anyone for a long time
        and what's the use of voting when Putin Medvedev and Churo taxis
  4. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 27 September 2013 07: 41
    +6
    "More than 8 billion rubles were stolen under the wing of the Oboronservis structure, 39 billion rubles disappeared from the accounts of Rosagroleasing, and then there is Olympstroy," Resorts of the North Caucasus "- and nothing has been proved ... drank, shared, and off the line, and the social network, as always, blow off ... am FROM LADY ONE VERY SOFTLY TALKING, one dirty tricks,for whatever it takes, wait for collapse, wait for trouble. request
  5. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 27 September 2013 07: 45
    23
    Medvedev amateur and balabol already openly infuriates. He ditched almost the entire economy in tandem with his boss, now he gasps and gasps with his hands. Like I didn’t get it myself.

    1. Russkiy_Prapor
      Russkiy_Prapor 27 September 2013 09: 11
      11
      Quote: Kibalchish
      Medvedev amateur and balabol already openly infuriates. He ditched almost the entire economy in tandem with his boss, now he gasps and gasps with his hands. Like I didn’t get it myself.


      Medvedev is just a teacher of Roman law and generally a buffoon at Putin’s court. What kind of economic achievements can we talk about when the evil and stupid dwarf Medvedev does not understand anything in this very economy.
      1. military
        military 27 September 2013 09: 45
        +7
        Quote: Russkiy_Prapor
        Medvedev is just a teacher of Roman law and generally a buffoon at Putin’s court. What kind of economic achievements can we talk about when the evil and stupid dwarf Medvedev does not understand anything in this very economy.

        however ... if he is just a jester, then the result is more due to another dwarf ... who, obviously, knows no more than his jester in this economy ...
    2. military
      military 27 September 2013 09: 42
      +4
      Quote: Kibalchish
      He ditched almost the entire economy in tandem with his boss, now he gasps and gasps with his hands. Like I didn’t get it myself.

      now both will be intensely searching for a national idea ... repeat
      1. alone
        alone 27 September 2013 11: 06
        +7
        it’s good that there is DAM. all the failures of domestic politics automatically go to his side.
        only one thing is forgotten - in Russia GDP controls everything.
        1. optimist
          optimist 27 September 2013 12: 24
          +3
          Quote: lonely
          -in Russia, everything is controlled by GDP.

          And gdp is controlled by the Jewish masons of the West. The circle, as they say, is closed ...
        2. military
          military 27 September 2013 12: 49
          +1
          Quote: lonely
          it’s good that there is DAM. all the failures of domestic politics automatically go to his side. only one thing is forgotten - in Russia GDP controls everything.

          who forgets about HIM? ... no-o-t! ... people remember "good" ... repeat
  6. My address
    My address 27 September 2013 07: 50
    20
    Dear visitors!
    With great pleasure I read your comments to this boy.
    I hope that the number of wishes go into the quality of his life.
    He must answer for his results.
  7. Avdy
    Avdy 27 September 2013 07: 51
    10
    our government lacks 670-710 billion rubles annually to implement social obligations

    This is just 5-10 percent of all millions of salaries (and "other income") of the entire top management of our country :)
  8. Ihrek
    Ihrek 27 September 2013 07: 55
    +9
    To have enough money for everything, it is necessary not to steal. The politician from him is so-so, but the economist is not at all.
    1. Stiletto
      Stiletto 27 September 2013 09: 13
      +5
      How this evil Carl with his stupid initiatives already pulled up! Only experiments with winter time are worth it! Moreover, he is terribly tedious ...
      1. My address
        My address 27 September 2013 10: 56
        +1
        Alexey!
        I understand that you nudack him nodakom.
        1. Stiletto
          Stiletto 27 September 2013 11: 09
          +4
          Quote: My address
          Alexey! As I understand it, it’s you who numbed it with an asshole.


          Greetings, colleague! hi I only said that this figure is wonderful, tedious and annoying. Well, he grabs other epithets even without me in this thread - and rightly so. Not all experiments on one’s people are equally useful.
          1. military
            military 27 September 2013 12: 51
            +2
            Quote: Stiletto
            I only said that this figure is wonderful, tedious and annoying.

            ... is it, like a dung fly, or what? ... what
          2. My address
            My address 27 September 2013 17: 31
            0
            Lord!
            Your deeds are wonderful!
            For this d ... mo, you understand, this is me about DAM, there are still minustandings ?!
    2. Garrin
      Garrin 27 September 2013 11: 58
      +2
      Quote: Jamal
      Politician from him so-so

      You flatter him.
  9. morpogr
    morpogr 27 September 2013 07: 56
    +5
    It is time to reduce this cabins, sovfd, I think, and all sorts of devices just save 5%.
    1. My address
      My address 27 September 2013 08: 10
      +4
      With the oligarchs. Not much yet. Percentage by 50%. And not for long. Until 2020 year. Let expand the channel of the Amur from floods. Dimona with them as a janitor, youth will remember.
      Then the rest will work on the country.
  10. kafa
    kafa 27 September 2013 07: 59
    +9
    Medvedev proposes to tighten the belt on 5%?
    yes, having previously thrown the belts around the neck of this tadpole am
  11. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 27 September 2013 08: 01
    +4
    Finding money is as easy as shelling pears, it is enough to stir up the London crowd and seize everything acquired by "back-breaking labor." Well, a bunch of similar options in the country itself.
    Because there are no righteously acquired capital.
    1. creak
      creak 27 September 2013 10: 20
      +3
      A simple example to compare. The US president lacks one official residence - Kemp David, who he releases the very next day after leaving his post. The same is true in England and other countries. And how many residences and palaces our beloved leaders have in the south and in other regions ... The fleet of personal, expensive cars with drivers is perhaps the largest in the world ... And these are only two aspects of a beautiful life. You have to start saving yourself, then it will be clear to people ...
  12. j iz sibiri
    j iz sibiri 27 September 2013 08: 01
    0
    Yes, do not worry, this is just another PR action of Putin
    right now Putin will come and save everyone will find money
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 27 September 2013 08: 07
      16
      I think that if you tighten the belts to all members of the government headed by D. Medvedev, governors, mayors of cities and also the army of officials by 10%, then the country's budget for social obligations can be fully implemented. I assure you that they are starving they will not die, someone must answer, so let them answer.
      1. Prometey
        Prometey 27 September 2013 08: 36
        +3
        Quote: Apollon
        I think so, if you tighten the belts to all members of the government

        There is another suggestion - to tighten the members with belts to the government winked
        1. 225chay
          225chay 27 September 2013 12: 43
          +1
          Quote: Prometey
          I think so, if you tighten the belts to all members of the government

          right! On the neck! all at once!
      2. zvereok
        zvereok 27 September 2013 09: 34
        +4
        If you REALLY tighten your belts to the management team, then how in one film the whole country will be able to rest in the Canary Islands for a year. Well, or half a year in Sochi.
        1. Valkyrie
          Valkyrie 27 September 2013 12: 19
          +2
          That would be fun! Only they don’t have to tighten their belts, but they should send all of them to the construction of roads in Russia, as in the old days tourist permits were given to Belomorkanal.
      3. Garrin
        Garrin 27 September 2013 09: 47
        +3
        Quote: Apollon
        I assure you that they will not die of hunger, someone must answer, so let them answer.

        Greetings Apollon! hi
        They are not that they will not die of hunger, they will not even notice it.
      4. military
        military 27 September 2013 09: 49
        +4
        Quote: Apollon
        I think so, if you tighten the belts to all members of the government, headed by D. Medvedev, governors, mayors of cities and the army of officials by 10%, then the country's budget for social obligations can be fully implemented.

        in this situation, the budget will turn out with a substantial surplus ... drinks
  13. Strashila
    Strashila 27 September 2013 08: 04
    +7
    A good thought is what the thought is, and not the idea ... the thought will remain a thought, and no one will realize the idea. Reduce by 5% ... who should cut private companies ... it's not even a laugh ... it's a rzhachka. AND WHY!!!!Yes, because !!!As with a reduction in funding, those who are being cut are trumpeting the growth of dividend payments. In essence, there is no need to reduce it.GRABD DIE !!! STEEP LESS !!!!Ah, yes, I forgot how they used to say about an odious type of top manager ... he doesn’t steal ... he doesn’t manage effectively. Maybe we put those who can do it efficiently ??? Well, yes, among close people ... no ... and the greed of others will not allow, even contrary to the feeling of self-preservation.
  14. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 27 September 2013 08: 13
    13
    A 5% reduction in budget expenditures, probably this is a social sphere, taking into account that prices will rise by 15%, it turns out that a decrease in living standards by 20% is simply an excellent power for us. All for the people.
    1. mark7
      mark7 27 September 2013 08: 36
      +8
      It is evidently not in vain that Zyuganov and his Communist Party raised a wave against Dimon; signatures are being collected
      1. d1m1drol
        d1m1drol 27 September 2013 08: 50
        +4
        Yes, they have already collected ... one and a half lyama of signatures, but what's the point? ... As well as for the anti-piracy law, they collected it ... and for something else ... they are silent about this media ... they don’t want to cancel what they did, this is a receipt from their worthlessness .. .
    2. military
      military 27 September 2013 09: 53
      +7
      Quote: vladsolo56
      our power is simply magnificent. All for the people.

      in the 90s we had one person named Reicher ... a very respected person ... we joked then that the first half of his last name was what we were promised, and the second was what we got ... repeat
  15. Forest
    Forest 27 September 2013 08: 20
    11
    The person who failed all the reforms initiated by him is also the time to punish as that minister in China.
  16. Zomanus
    Zomanus 27 September 2013 08: 25
    +8
    Want to tell me where to find 5%? Yes, enter full confiscation for corruption crimes. You don't even need to put anyone in jail, just take away everything and prohibit holding a public office for life. Just that it would work for everyone, including those "especially close".
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 27 September 2013 09: 48
      +4
      How to select what is on the London accounts? How to start the withdrawal mechanism, when the Americans openly threaten our banking system with sanctions, and the system is this favorite system of starters. Somehow I went through open sources in the media, how much capital has flowed from us since the appearance of the Russian Federation and was horrified. There was only one year when capital flowed to Russia, toli in 2000 or 1999. Everything! And even if you subtract the Kubyshka, which naturally increased the outflow of capital, he all remained one. And do not forget that every year we are promised that next year the outflow will be replaced by an inflow, in the middle of next year they promise that it will decrease significantly by the end of the year .. Nifiga like that. Let's admit - the Russian Federation is a colony of the West! The colonial government is Putin and Medvedev. Of course, they may disagree with their masters, and may even lead (Medvedev soon) the liberation movement, but the trouble is these people are extremely independent and play by and large their retinue.
  17. andrei332809
    andrei332809 27 September 2013 08: 28
    +9
    Medvedev suggests tightening belts by 5%

    on his throat he tighten the percent belt on xnumx
  18. sapsan14
    sapsan14 27 September 2013 08: 42
    10
    Good afternoon!
    Again Medvedev frequented the news.
    And this is not good ...
    Again they breed suckers into "smart" - "stupid".
    Where is the superfood president?
    Who is behind Medvedev’s decisions? bully
    Great bred ....
    P.S. Not in the subject: yesterday I was with my youngest son at a parent meeting. On Saturdays, additional paid classes ... "Education Law" ... Probably Medvedev is to blame ... And the president is the guarantor of free education. Not funny anymore.
  19. bunta
    bunta 27 September 2013 08: 43
    -8
    And what does Putin have to do with it ?!
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 27 September 2013 08: 46
      10
      As always, nothing to do with. Run over as usual. laughing
  20. Sunjar
    Sunjar 27 September 2013 08: 49
    11
    Shade your belt, damn dogs! Not enough for foreign dachas? Patience is already on the edge of the psyche. Then either drink it down and turn into an animal that does not need anything but a new portion of the poison, or, having gathered all together, those who really love their Motherland, are real patriots, and not adherents of Western democracy; come to their government and carry out the most rabid reformers-cutters in their arms, as they did with Leba Davidovich Bronstein (aka Trotsky), with the parting words: "The quieter you go, the further you will. The further you go, the quieter you will be!" And let them bark as much as they want at Russia, our Mother, that we do not have democracy. Thank you, you're full already. We agree to be governed, but since you have been chosen, then govern with dignity, and if you cannot, then vacate the post at the request of the majority of the people.

    By the way, Dimka Medvedev recently announced a federal program aimed at increasing road safety and survival after accidents. For everything about everything, you need to allocate 31 billion. rubles. (if I'm not mistaken). The program must be implemented by 2020. But how they are going to do this has not yet been said: they will make the barriers rubber, or the ambulance will arrive more sharply and they will have "dead water" to heal wounds and "living water" to revive them, maybe there will be some bonuses write out for a neat ride. Have you noticed that all the murky programs to improve something are scheduled for a very distant future within a generation? Oh, yes, I remembered: the reformers-democrats-perestroika and the hedgehogs with them promised to provide everyone with their own housing by 2015 (without debt slavery, of course), that everyone will have excellent cars (also without debt slavery), and in general life will be almost like in paradise. We have not long to wait, happiness is not far off.
  21. andrey903
    andrey903 27 September 2013 08: 52
    +7
    Obviously, our first faces are fed from this oil-gas trough.
    1. military
      military 27 September 2013 09: 57
      +5
      Quote: andrey903
      Obviously, our first faces are fed from this oil-gas trough.

      they privatized it for a long time ...
    2. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 27 September 2013 16: 59
      +2
      Quote: andrey903
      Obviously
      -request
      Logical good
  22. nemec55
    nemec55 27 September 2013 08: 55
    10
    Fucking ghouls, over the past 20 years the villages of the region of which I live there IS NOTHING TO BUILT ANYTHING one devastation, the first-class roads of the Soviet Union turned into the first-class impassable jungle of the new Russia under the leadership of the liberal-living transfers.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 27 September 2013 09: 56
      +8
      At the expense of the First-class roads of the Union, you have turned it down. Then the load was many times less.

      Rosavtodor is another matter, especially for which a car tax was made. He asks for more finance, although nothing has changed since the introduction of the tax. It's just that the state has shifted another problem onto the shoulders of citizens. Soon his machine will need to be brought to the army.
  23. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 27 September 2013 08: 56
    +1
    from the Don.
    The offer is very interesting! It will become better for pensioners, children, but bureaucrats will live worse by 5-10 percent. This is pepper-Medvedev! What care for the people! Or did I misunderstand?
  24. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 27 September 2013 08: 59
    0
    They all need to tighten their ties there so that they chat less and are really engaged in economics and production!
  25. sashka
    sashka 27 September 2013 09: 02
    +4
    The music did not last long. Nashikovalis, now have to scratch turnips. If you strive for a long time, you will definitely get the result. But it does not occur to save money on officials and "deputies". This is sacred, you can not touch .. And the confiscation of "acquired by overwork" is also not talking .. The price of pre-election idle talk divorced from reality .. Woodpeckers in one word.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 27 September 2013 10: 03
      +1
      You’ll see if the people take up the forks of the Oligarchs, they will immediately remember Putin’s election initiative to legalize initially. accumulated cap 90's, by contributing a certain amount to the budget. Then neither the people nor the people supported this initiative, and in case of turmoil, all the media (everyone understands that there are no independent media) will blow what a wise move this is. And the crowd will believe.
  26. Owl
    Owl 27 September 2013 09: 04
    +6
    The power of thieves is once again robbing the people of the country instead of their close oligarchs and relatives. The Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs "asked" all (!) Employees to donate "one-day wages to help victims of the flood", such a "request" is an order, everyone will do it. but the "power" once again proves its involvement with the criminals, from them (from Serdyuk, from Vasilyeva, from the thieves from the Olympics and summits), these representatives of the "eat Russia" party will not take anything and their friends and relatives (the wife's cousins ​​and their husbands ) continue to cover and cherish. If all these thieves and traitors to the Motherland are impaled (near the Kremlin), then in the center of Moscow there will be an almost taiga massif, and the "eternal president" will pronounce the New Year's address to the People sitting on a stake.
  27. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 27 September 2013 09: 05
    -5
    Quote: sapsan14
    On Saturdays, extra paid classes ...

    And my son does not have extra. paid classes. Look for a reason in your area.
    1. sapsan14
      sapsan14 27 September 2013 14: 40
      0
      The federal law. Not local. Free - basic education. And happiness will come to you.
    2. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 27 September 2013 20: 21
      0
      And the minuses, although they do not care, I was told that my son has no paid lessons. Ah, I get it. This is another hysteria want to bring another hysteria out of thin air.
  28. Selendis
    Selendis 27 September 2013 09: 12
    -3
    Well, I’ll bring in a bit of it, as our president said, the country will not return to the past, there will be no second USSR, we will only have a reduction in social services, price increases, all sucks, a mono bullet in the temple). Maybe panic is less? I think none of you and your friends have economists in the Kremlin and do not know the exact situation, you don’t even look at the government’s website), right? Let's see what happens next, 90 years have passed, there will be a repetition - the end of power, so we will be optimistic;)
    1. Valery Neonov
      Valery Neonov 27 September 2013 10: 45
      0
      So there are no pessimists, only optimists! yes
  29. Pavlov A.E.
    Pavlov A.E. 27 September 2013 09: 18
    +2
    And as always, they will start saving from the people. And then the officials have very miserable salaries for the people.
  30. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 27 September 2013 09: 25
    +1
    I would personally tie his tie to him and his government and not by 5%.
  31. military
    military 27 September 2013 09: 27
    +3
    I hope that after we spend reorganization of our armed forces, we can reconfigure budget expenses

    Shaw, grandmother, again St. George's Day? ...
    it’s time for the guarantor to tighten the belt to the prime minister himself and his entire cabinet ... and not by 5%, but by 100% ... around the necks ...
  32. 311ove
    311ove 27 September 2013 09: 31
    +5
    .... They don’t take care of themselves, they don’t sleep at night ... they don’t crawl in their throats .... They make people happy! crying
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 27 September 2013 10: 21
      +3
      Quote: 311ove
      . a piece they do not climb into the throat .... Pleased for the people!

      Filatova remembered
      "I smear a sandwich in the morning-
      just a thought, but how are the people?
      and caviar doesn’t go into the throat,
      and the compote does not pour into the mouth "
    2. military
      military 27 September 2013 11: 14
      +1
      Quote: 311ove
      a piece in their throats does not climb ....

      yeah ... well, "does not fit" ... laughing with a whistle ... not throats, but black holes ...
  33. koksalek
    koksalek 27 September 2013 09: 35
    +4
    I never expect anything good from Medvedev because this is a negative person for the state and all his thoughts are similar
  34. chushoj
    chushoj 27 September 2013 09: 41
    +1
    If the cabinet does not catch up with triple integrals, and the budget moves away from cuts, the parliament will step in step with the cabinet. How much oil do we have, Vladimir Vladimirovich? Can I buy a new iPhone?
    1. military
      military 27 September 2013 11: 21
      +1
      Quote: chushoj
      How much oil do we have, Vladimir Vladimirovich? Can I buy a new iPhone?

      I will answer for him:
      - Who has it "with us"? ... Mineral resources in Russia are the property of the state ... Do not confuse your pocket with the state ... But buy an iPhone ... be sure ...
      wink
  35. Diviz
    Diviz 27 September 2013 09: 41
    0
    For Europe, we blooming ass bloomed and that's enough
  36. JonnyT
    JonnyT 27 September 2013 09: 43
    +2
    parasites on the shoulders of the working people ....... and everywhere, starting from a small district leader, ending with the highest echelons of power. And in all areas, from kindergarten to the Academy of Sciences ....... the control system is so rotten that it just collapses soon !!! This is not power - this is occupation !!!!!!! They want to impose another tribute. Shish to them !!!
  37. Gur
    Gur 27 September 2013 09: 45
    +4
    So I look in the TV box, on the 29th the assistance program for the Far East starts, no, I am not against it, we need to help people with the whole world, well, I can’t look at it when they are groomed from the screen, obviously not exhausted by physical labor, and mental too, people whose wealth is far from the average urge us to do this. No, you are our beloved, do not call, but show an example, say the day of the work of Channel 1 to the fund for flood victims. And we will catch up with whoever can. And in a different situation, it’s really how sad the people are, and how the people’s money was stolen, they still cannot find the corpus delicti in this.
    1. siv-vik
      siv-vik 27 September 2013 10: 12
      +2
      And not only aid to the Far East, but sick children are collected by the whole country, while "effective managers" who have stolen billions ride service merciers under the protection of the FSO, while others "suffer" in 13-room apartments with servants.
    2. pahom54
      pahom54 27 September 2013 10: 41
      +2
      So Medvedev showed how he helps the Far East. Both he and the government (I don’t know if all of them) donated their salaries to the fund to help flood-affected residents of the Far East, ALWAYS IN THE AMOUNT OF 1,5 MILLION RUBLES !!! But I will collect 15 billion "from the world on a string" ...
  38. SPLV
    SPLV 27 September 2013 09: 47
    0
    And the saddest thing is that the situation is stalemate. The authorities do not want to do practically anything for the people, but the people endure. If really popular unrest began like a hundred years ago, it would instantly lead to the loss of statehood. Further "scientific and educational" reforms lead to the degradation of the population. People act from mercantile reasons and the majority will never wake up in the head with the thought that in addition to the "bubble today" there are also "children of the cost".
  39. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 27 September 2013 09: 50
    0
    When will Medvedev be replaced.? Or wait for another default to happen! Putin is clearly stirring something .. I do not like this situation ..
  40. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 27 September 2013 09: 51
    19
    Uncle Vova and the trained Bear (Agniya Barto)


    Today we will go to the circus!
    In the arena again today
    With a trained bear
    Tamer Uncle Vova.

    The circus goes numb with delight.
    I laugh holding on to dad
    But the Bear doesn’t dare to growl
    Just sucks a funny paw

    He takes himself by the scrubs,
    Important bow to children.
    How funny in the circus
    With Uncle Vova and the Bear!

    November 1957, XNUMX
    1. creak
      creak 27 September 2013 10: 03
      +4
      Do not think up on purpose ...
    2. Gato
      Gato 27 September 2013 10: 19
      +5
      Quote: Milafon

      He takes himself by the scrubs,
      Important bow to children.
      How funny in the circus
      With Uncle Vova

      Nobody would say better laughing
    3. Valery Neonov
      Valery Neonov 27 September 2013 10: 49
      +5
      He takes himself by the scrubs,
      Important bow to children.
      How funny in the circus
      With Uncle Vova and the Bear!
      -Prophecy, otherwise you will not name. good
  41. Llirik
    Llirik 27 September 2013 09: 53
    +2
    With all due respect to the author and agreement on most of the paragraphs of the article, I must say that a mistake was made in the calculation of oil revenues.
    For several months, the price of "black gold" was in the corridor from 105 to 112 dollars per barrel.

    The fact is that the indicated price corridor is for Brent crude oil, and the Russian export grade is (mainly) Urals, it is cheaper than 10-15 percent. Take this into account
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 27 September 2013 10: 59
      +2
      You lagged behind life, now the spread between Urals and Brent is much less. At one time, brent was even cheaper.
      1. Llirik
        Llirik 27 September 2013 14: 13
        +1
        Good. Smaller, but it is. And other players can try to artificially lower the cost of Urals, naturally with an eye to the laws of the market.
        Unfortunately, we most likely will not be able to convey to the top how to increase the budget's profitability; there is too much involved in it. Any movement in one direction or another causes opposition of certain groups. Therefore, as a rule, power follows the path of least resistance.
  42. rennim
    rennim 27 September 2013 09: 55
    +5
    The budget is very difficult, the most difficult in recent years, as well as the situation that has developed in the economy. Now we have no crisis, but there is no development, and we are at a rather difficult point, when recovery growth is over, we don’t have previous incomes, foreign markets are closed to a large extent, and the budget needs to fulfill the huge social obligations we have undertaken in recent years.


    Where did the income come from ... Only the expenses. Sochi alone is worth what. The stolen goods cannot be calculated at all. And how many billions of debts have been forgiven to Cuba, Vietnam, Afghanistan. And just gave ... Tajikistan, etc.
  43. sergant89
    sergant89 27 September 2013 09: 57
    11
    I live in Yamal, talked with my brother yesterday, works in an oil and gas company, serves aircraft engines (pumps) in a gas-condensate field that pump gas into a pipe, so now they have effective managers who have introduced an item on Effective use by each worker of labor time and making savings in all areas of productionafter which many positions assigned to the Production State to comply with all Safety Engineering standards were reduced, but at the same time all Cruisers were replaced with new ones in the offices, millions of Grants were received by the end of the year, of course, this does not concern hard workers, because oil and gas are produced in offices, all see everything, but try to blather, you’ll go to raise agriculture, which was not here and is not here.
    1. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 27 September 2013 11: 00
      +2
      This is the most offensive that the one who works with his hands feeds all kinds of b @ Yadsk managers there. 2/3 of honestly earned money we give to all trash!
  44. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 27 September 2013 10: 07
    0
    Quote: sergant89
    I live in Yamal, talked with my brother yesterday, works in an oil and gas company, serves aircraft engines (pumps) in a gas-condensate field that pump gas into a pipe, so now they have effective managers who have introduced an item on Effective use by each worker of labor time and making savings in all areas of productionafter which many positions assigned to the Production State to comply with all Safety Engineering standards were reduced, but at the same time all Cruisers were replaced with new ones in the offices, millions of Grants were received by the end of the year, of course, this does not concern hard workers, because oil and gas are produced in offices, all see everything, but try to blather, you’ll go to raise agriculture, which was not here and is not here.

    Something I already read such a comment about 2 months ago .. Or am I mistaken ???)))
  45. siv-vik
    siv-vik 27 September 2013 10: 08
    +4
    In the defense industry, Serdyukov & K were plundered (there will now be an amnesty for their company), in Sochi, 2/3 were also plundered, rolled back, during the preparation of the World Cup on football there will be the same story, the secret agent with accomplices also contributed to the collapse of the country. And wherever you go, one and the same song is stolen, sawed, taken abroad. Where's the money, you ask? Before the elections, he promised a bunch of everything, and all that was possible was plundered by his own "effective managers".
  46. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 27 September 2013 10: 09
    +3
    MDA doesn’t have to turn up a turnip ... he thinks he thinks he can’t make decisions unfortunately ..... like he was a junior researcher, he stayed with them .... everyone is waiting for someone to tell him from above ... or on the side ..... only motorists, he spread the bridge !!
    In Russia, 11 million officials .... go nuts ...... who can feed so much ..... production is not stimulated ..... it is not surprising that we will now be in * opera !!
    You must have the courage to collect the manat and leave the MDA, together with your minions from the government Olympus, recognizing your own inability!
    But is he capable of it !!! ???? ..... here we are all suffering and will suffer because of his inability
    1. siv-vik
      siv-vik 27 September 2013 10: 26
      +1
      Yeah, try to feed such a horde of officials! So not only are their salaries not the smallest, they also take them.
  47. vkrav
    vkrav 27 September 2013 10: 22
    +2
    Quote: Grigorich 1962
    There are 11 million officials in Russia ...

    What is there to think? Arrange an annual reduction of officials by 10%. And the direct benefit, and the rest may even think about work! laughing
  48. Muadipus
    Muadipus 27 September 2013 10: 23
    +2
    Believe Medvedev - do not respect yourself!
    "We are crowning our enemies with the kingdom, and we are waiting for grace from heaven" (c) Trofim.
    1. South
      South 27 September 2013 10: 39
      +5
      and the way is better?
      1. Muadipus
        Muadipus 27 September 2013 10: 55
        -2
        he is more solid, half of the world is dragging from him, and the other half is afraid. For foreign policy, that’s it.
        1. military
          military 27 September 2013 13: 01
          +5
          Quote: Muadipus
          he is more solid, half of the world is dragging from him, and the other half is afraid. For foreign policy, that’s it.

          and from the inside, the whole country is dragging ... slowly, but steadily ... to the cemetery ... what
          1. Muadipus
            Muadipus 27 September 2013 17: 39
            -2
            I also have many complaints about the current leadership. But! ZP grow, Minimum unemployment, Pensioners (I speak for the military) raised their pension, state employees zp increased, the prestige of the army rises, federal programs are funded ... You look out the window, how many tower cranes do you have on the horizon? In St. Petersburg from my window in 2007 I counted about 30 and at the end of 2008 - 2 cranes !!! Construction is an indicator of the economy. And actually the economy of the 5th world, even overtook Germany - I am still shocked by this news.

            Although, if not for the cuts and theft, I do not dare to imagine what peaks Russia could reach.

            Putin is a controversial person, on the one hand he is megaKrasavcheg, clever - set the standard for how a leader of a nation should be, on the other hand, is his environment.

            An environment like Yin and Yang, on the one hand, I am not afraid of the phrase "the pride of Russia" - Lavrov, not pride but also worthy such as Rogozin, Shaigu, Ivanov, Primakov, Stepashin ...
            On the other hand, such as Medvedev, Serdyukov, Kiriyenko and the like. I was especially killed by Medvedev's phrase that "the government is formed of like-minded people" and in just a couple of weeks Serdyukov was removed and a scandal with Oboronservis began.
            The question is, what did Serdyukov do with like-minded people?
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 27 September 2013 18: 26
              0
              Quote: Muadipus
              Zp grow
              Like prices.

              Minimum unemployment
              How to consider, but generally comparable with the West.

              Pensioners (I speak for the military) raised their pension
              Like prices.

              state employees zp increased
              Like prices.

              Army prestige rises
              So they say on federal channels.

              federal programs are funded
              It is worth paying attention to what kind of these programs.

              You look out the window, how many tower cranes do you count on the horizon? Construction is an indicator of the economy
              Commercial construction, in no way connected with the well-being of an ordinary citizen.

              And actually the 5th world economy
              5th PPP GDP.


              And now the tar tank in a barrel of honey laughing

              The minimum wage level, which is contrary to part 3 of Article 80 of the Constitution and article 133 of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation, is below the subsistence level, in the 10th year amounted to 12% of GDP per capita, and in the 12th year (and to this moment) - 8%.

              For comparison: the minimum wage of Brazil - our partner in the BRICS, which has the same commodity economy and is not, unlike the Russian Federation, a social state - 32% of GDP per capita PPP.
              1. Muadipus
                Muadipus 27 September 2013 19: 03
                -2
                I don’t even want to quote everything, just obscurantism. Regarding the growth of sn and prices. Compare, for example, a pensioner's trip to the country in an old Lada. In Ukraine and in Russia. for reference in St. Petersburg, gas costs 29-30 rubles, in Ukraine 42-45 rubles. In Belarus, 24-26 rubles. The question is whose pensioner will go further, if we take into account that their pension is different? This is so for example. because food prices are rising the same all over the world, so tomatoes in Spain and in Russia, just like fish at the same level, by the way, Dorado are cheaper in Russia. - This is a very long discussion. I am sure that you will agree that it is better when prices rise along with a pension, and not without it.

                Buildings .... laughing learn the mat part. The main engine of any economy is consumer demand. Consumer demand is the demand secured by money. If no one buys the goods, then it makes no sense to produce them. Construction at all times, starting with the Egyptian pyramids is the most powerful source of mass consumer demand and it does not matter who finances them, the state or business.

                For reference, the great depression in America and the absolute collapse of the German economy after the 1st World War were overcome only by organizing massive construction work, such as roads.

                So, commercial construction projects are not only connected with the well-being of an ordinary citizen, but they are also an indicator of the attractiveness of the market in terms of investing funds. If this is the construction of a plant, then also ensuring a long-term source of consumer demand, plus taxes.
                1. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 27 September 2013 19: 31
                  0
                  Quote: Muadipus
                  I don’t even want to quote everything, one obscurantism
                  Highly "reasonable" statement laughing

                  Compare, for example, a pensioner's trip to the country in an old Lada. In Ukraine and in Russia
                  And why not from the USA or the USSR of the 80s?

                  because food prices are rising globally
                  This is obscurantism - in Spain inflation of 3% is considered extremely high, and in Russia real inflation is more than 40% per year.

                  If no one buys the goods, then it makes no sense to produce them
                  Firstly, it is not clear what they are building at your 30 construction sites. Secondly, they buy commercial housing - 10-15% of the population with the purpose of investment, and as a result have several apartments.

                  such as roads
                  That's right - but they built roads, not premium-class offices and commercial housing, and they were built by US citizens, not guest workers.

                  And again we return to the level of minimum wages, which directly violates the Constitution and Federal law, and does not fully ensure even the biological needs of man.
        2. Black
          Black 27 September 2013 22: 37
          0
          Quote: Muadipus
          he is more solid, half of the world is dragging from him, and the other half is afraid. For foreign policy, that’s it.

          Fed up like cats .... they are looking at this circus with a head full of w ... sing and TRAVEL !!! Cho do not trudge then?
          They are in the figurative sense of the word, we will soon literally! The most?
  49. pahom54
    pahom54 27 September 2013 10: 27
    +4
    These are exaggerated problems with the budget deficit ... Make a normal and rigid, transparent tax system - and this will not be a deficit, but a budget surplus. Do not let 78 billion green papers slip away over the hill ... Return the loot - hard judge the thieves and confiscate everything from them, their relatives and nominees ... For example, I give two organizations such as the Pension Fund and Russian Post: every one and a half two years, embezzlement of billions (!!!) of rubles takes place in them, the leadership completely changes, and the perpetrators disappear somewhere - well, our law enforcement agencies cannot find them !!! INSPECT THE ORDER IN THE STATE !!! And then you won’t climb in the pockets of a beggar (I’m not afraid of this word) people to fill the deficit.
  50. Rakti-kali
    Rakti-kali 27 September 2013 10: 29
    +3
    Medvedev proposes to tighten the belt on 5%?

    Better to let this "telephone operator" tighten the rope around his neck.