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C "Batya" on the minefield

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C "Batya" on the minefieldYoung priest - oh. Alexander (Petin) - arrived in the spring of 1937, after 5 years of hard labor in Kolyma, in the city of Penza. There he served for several years as a priest. At the beginning of the war he was called to the construction battalion and, as Archpriest Alexander Kravchenko writes: “... he was assigned to the battalion that built the airfield, the runway ...


But the Germans were advancing so swiftly - nothing was needed. An order was received: “We are moving away! Enemies will be here tomorrow! ” Next is the story of an air raid on their cart with horses, caught in a forest glade. The Messerschmitt-109 pilot, when he used up the bombs, literally began to hunt for soldiers, shooting them from a low-flying flight - “... Father Alexander, when he was fleeing death from an airplane, fell flat on the ground, squeezing into it during the first machine gun fire. He fled from death from heaven, and she was waiting in the earth. Our retreating troops probably mined places for fear of a breakthrough tanks, and anti-personnel mines were thrown.

It so happened that their airfield service battalion remained for someone's negligence almost behind the front line, in the rear of the German forces advancing along the main roads. The train, moving forward, stubbornly pulled out of the German ticks. The front cart suddenly blew up. Now, one thing remained: with homemade probes slowly move forward. But, where a man passed, a horse with a loaded cart could be blown up by a mine.

The night has come. The Germans rested at those hours. The convoy was barely moving, paving the way through a minefield in complete darkness. But here - again a bright flash of fire, a deafening roar. All stayed. This went on for several days. Cold. The first snow has gone. The road began to bring. With the first cart now no one wanted to go. A murmur threatened to go into disobedience. The convoy stopped the already slow movement.

The battalion fighters knew Father Alexander well, they respectfully called him “Batey”, despite the fact that he was relatively young. His calm confidence, a special love for others was passed on to everyone.

And here the commander called father Alexander. It turns out that the fighters said that they would go further if the "Dad" goes to the first cart or follows it. The commander, still a young man, embarrassedly explained that now neither he nor the political instructor is in possession of the situation. The officer said: “I understand that war is war and you can order, but my language does not turn, and I ask you to take into account not the voice of reason, but feelings. Of course, it is cruel, it seems to be a hostage, but now only faith in a priest can lead people. The fighters have the confidence that we will not perish with the “Batey”. You know, ”the commander went on,“ I myself share this confidence. ”

Without hesitation, Father Alexander went with the first cart. It was not a throw at the fire-breathing embrasure. But here was the same dedication in which he was strengthened by the faith of the people. The fighters cheered up and cheered up. "Daddy" went tirelessly. Father Alexander thought that not everyone gets such wonderful moments in life when his faith gains visible confirmation. All the fears were left behind, on that “clearing of death”, where his life was not interrupted from the machine-gun fire from the plane. Apparently, the Lord judged to continue to bear testimony about him among the people. Nervous tension subsided, but at times the body was filled with heaviness. That shivers, then throws into a fever. When it became completely unbearable, Father Alexander lay down on the cart.

After a journey of many kilometers, when the heaviest was left behind, the forces left the battered father. Father Alexander was burning in a severe cold. After leaving the encirclement, he was taken to the nearest hospital, in Kimry. It turned out bilateral pneumonia.

Soon, Father Alexander was released from military service. And he remained to serve as a priest in Kimry. During his priestly ministry, he repeatedly sent food carts to hospitals for wounded soldiers. For his work during the war for the benefit of the Victory, the priest was awarded the medal "For the Victory over Germany" and "For Valiant Labor in the Great Patriotic War" and even thanks from Stalin as the Supreme Commander.

Later, Father Alexander became a monk named Nikon. Then he was consecrated bishop of Kherson and Odessa. Lord Nikon died in 1956, when the veteran of World War II was still relatively young. He was buried all of Odessa. The coffin with his body was carried in his arms from the church on French Boulevard to Odessa Assumption Cathedral. ”
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  1. jasper
    jasper 28 September 2013 09: 55 New
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    Faith is the only thing that helps a person to survive in a war and not break, not become a beast
    and by the way, to the question of our forum communists, did the priest fight for Stalin and communism, after the camps or for their homeland?
    for any sane person, the answer is Obvious - Our Ancestors fought, died and Won for the Motherland! and epithets like Soviet, communist, democratic, are simply superfluous, because they are called to justify betrayal or simply allow you to cling to the Wars!
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 28 September 2013 11: 34 New
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      Quote: yasenpen
      and by the way, to the question of our forum communists, did the priest fight for Stalin and communism, after the camps or for their homeland?
      ,

      I am a communist, and not a forum one, I answer the question:
      - the priest, like the rest of the country, fought for his homeland, as did Stalin.
      Stalin at his post was not fighting for Stalin, look at the visit log and ask the comrade a question:
      - Can you work fruitfully in this mode?

      Quote: yasenpen
      and epithets like Soviet, communist, democratic, are simply superfluous, because they are called to justify betrayal or simply allow you to cling to the Wars!


      How old is your comrade? Have you ever heard of orders:
      - Communists and Komsomol members forward?
      Have you heard about the request of the fighters before the fight to consider them Communists?
      If you don’t know something, ask.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 28 September 2013 11: 37 New
        +6
        Quote: Karlsonn
        How old is your comrade? Have you ever heard of orders:
        - Communists and Komsomol members forward?




        Well. as for the priests:

        On photo:
        The commander of the 5-th Leningrad partisan brigade, Hero of the Soviet Union K.D. Karitsky attaches the medal "Partisan of the Patriotic War II degree" to the priest of the church of the Pskov village ova Gorky of the Porkhov region Fedor Puzanov.

        During the war years, Fedor Andreevich Puzanov became a scout of the 5 of the partisan brigade. George Knight of the First World War and a modest rural carpenter in 30-s, taking advantage of the relative freedom of movement allowed by the occupants as a priest of a rural parish, carried out reconnaissance work, supplied the partisans with bread and clothing, and reported on the movements of the Germans. In addition, he led conversations with believers and, moving from village to village, acquainted residents with the situation in the country and at the front.

        During the German evacuation of the population of the Pskov region in January 1944, Priest Puzanov was to accompany his arrival at the place of loading into the train. The Germans were accompanying the column of villagers, but after passing 15 kilometers, the Germans turned aside, ordering the priest, on pain of death, to bring the column himself. When the Germans fled, Puzanov invited the villagers to return home, which they willingly did. The commander of the 5 partisan brigade, KD Karitsky himself attached a medal to the “Partisan of the Patriotic War” to the hero’s chest.
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 28 September 2013 11: 40 New
          +9
          On photo:

          Priest Dmitry Orlovsky blesses Soviet fighters before the battle. Oryol direction, 1943 year.
          1. Uhe
            Uhe 28 September 2013 15: 36 New
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            A real Russian priest.

            You lead away from the main thing. There are people among the priests for whom Russia and the Russian people are the main thing in their ministry. And there are those who, for the sake of their "corporate" good, are ready to betray this very Russia and the Russian people. There were plenty of them too. Search for "the church prayed for hitler".

            Do not forget that it was Stalin who restored the patriarchy and it was Stalin who commissioned the first to speak to Patriarch Sergius with a speech about the beginning of the war. It was not Molotov who spoke first, but Sergius. This says a lot about the greatness of Stalin's personality.

            Meanwhile, other "Orthodox" were praying for the victory of the German arms. One size fits all? No. Your picture shows Russian people, and non-Russians prayed for the Nazis. Who is closer to you personally - a Russian priest or a nerus? But both of them call themselves Orthodox Christians.

            Now the situation is exactly the same. There are those priests who are fighting for the Russian people, and there are those who lick the ass of the regime and the oligarchs, helping them oppress the Russian people. The split has been going on for over 1000 years, unfortunately.
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 28 September 2013 16: 04 New
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              Quote: Uhe
              You lead away from the main thing. There are people among the priests for whom Russia and the Russian people are the main thing in their ministry. And there are those who, for the sake of their "corporate" good, are ready to betray this very Russia and the Russian people. There were plenty of them too. Search for "the church prayed for hitler".


              I agree.
            2. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 28 September 2013 17: 44 New
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              Quote: Uhe
              Do not forget that it was Stalin who restored the patriarchy and it was Stalin who commissioned the first to speak to Patriarch Sergius with a speech about the beginning of the war.

              Stalin restored the patriarchy before the offensive, which was completely justified.

              But at the expense of Sergius, I would like documented clarifications.
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 28 September 2013 19: 59 New
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                Yarosvet

                Kamrad, as a communist, is not even convenient for me to ask ... repeat

                Have you read the "Declaration of Metropolitan Sergius" of July 1927?
                1. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 30 September 2013 17: 30 New
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                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  Have you read the "Declaration of Metropolitan Sergius" of July 1927?

                  Up to this point - no (until that moment I read the 4th chapter of the RSFSR Criminal Code as amended by the 26th year - article 127 was especially pleased).

                  Only here that he announced the beginning of the war (and even almost the whole country) there are a lot of reposts, and documentary evidence is dumb.
          2. svp67
            svp67 28 September 2013 21: 14 New
            +3
            Our "communist faith", in spite of its atheism, is very similar to the "Orthodox faith", which is why it found such a response in our people ... And our "priests" have always been distinguished by their readiness to defend their country and not only by word ...
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 28 September 2013 21: 23 New
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              Quote: svp67
              Our "communist faith", despite its atheism, is very similar to the "Orthodox faith"


              I was repeatedly accused of chiliasm as a communist.

              Accusers raked. hi

              Quote: svp67
              why did I find such a response among our people ...


              Ready to argue. smile
              1. svp67
                svp67 28 September 2013 21: 25 New
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                Quote: Karlsonn
                Ready to argue
                Ready to hear objections ...
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 28 September 2013 22: 12 New
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                  Quote: svp67
                  Ready to hear objections ..


                  Orthodoxy is true Christianity, Catholicism is the Roman sextant and the thirst for power of the Roman bishop.
                  Orthodoxy was instilled with fire and sword for the sake of centralization of power, since the Slavic tribes believed differently and differently.
                  But this created an incident --- the Slavs who converted to Christianity began to change the history of the planet. The adoption of Orthodoxy and the response occurred due to the internal foundations of the Slavic tribes and their customs, in which there was a blood feud by the way --- so much so that Caucasians cry in the corner with envy.
                  1. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn 28 September 2013 22: 39 New
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                    Glory to the Red Army!







                    Komsomol vow
                    Music: D. Pokrass Lyrics: P. Gradov

                    They remember the Amur distances,
                    Remember the taiga by the river,
                    How on Amur we lit
                    Build big lights.

                    Chorus:
                    We swore an oath to Lenin
                    In labor, be the first and in battle!
                    And in Lenin’s way, we held back
                    Komsomol oath!

                    In the gray coat of a soldier
                    He went to the battle for the Motherland
                    In songs sung young, winged
                    Leninsky is our Komsomol!

                    Chorus.

                    Everything we build today
                    He boldly conceived.
                    He bears the name of his native
                    New Volgo-Don channel!

                    Chorus.

                    To be richer and more beautiful
                    Make home country
                    So that our Motherland flourishes,
                    We raised Tselin!

                    Chorus.

                    We are through any adversity
                    We will be able to get together!
                    Lenin's name is the banner of the people,
                    It dawns on the road!

                    Chorus.
                  2. In the reeds
                    In the reeds 29 September 2013 18: 48 New
                    0
                    The Communist Monologue
              2. svp67
                svp67 28 September 2013 21: 28 New
                +1
                Quote: Karlsonn
                I was repeatedly accused of chiliasm as a communist.


                Chiliism (from the Greek χῑλιάς - one thousand), or millennialism (from the Latin. Mille - one thousand) is a doctrine based on the literal interpretation of the prophecy Rev. 20: 1-4, which speaks of the millennial Kingdom of God on earth at the end of history.
                And I saw the thrones and those seated on them, which were given to judge, and the souls of the beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, who did not bow down to the beast, nor to his image, and did not accept the mark on their forehead and on their hand. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
                Rev. 20: 4
                Currently, chiliasm in the broad sense means the doctrine of the period of the triumph of God's truth on earth.


                ?????? Please explain how a true communist argued
                the triumph of God's truth on earth


                Quote: Karlsonn
                Accusers raked

                That is, what they could not prove with words, proved with fists, like a true communist?
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 28 September 2013 22: 15 New
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                  Quote: svp67
                  ?????? Please explain how a true communist argued


                  what type of lecture to read what is the difference between the kingdom of heaven on earth and the communist state?

                  ... That is, what they could not prove with words, proved with fists, like a true communist? ...

                  yeah, as a communist, if I can’t prove it with words --- I prove it with my fists. drinks
                  He fought for the honor of the USSR in the junior, as a member of the Olympic reserve of the USSR angry , three times the Red flag hoisted internationally above all. fellow bully soldier do not take it for weakness - every time you raise the flag of the USSR - it shed tears recourse
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 28 September 2013 22: 20 New
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                    Quote: Karlsonn
                    type of lecture to read what is the difference between the kingdom of heaven on earth and the communist state?

                    I understood your train of thought. Enough. In principle, I believe that this theory has the right to life.
                    1. Karlsonn
                      Karlsonn 28 September 2013 22: 41 New
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                      Quote: svp67
                      I understood your train of thought. Enough. In principle, I believe that this theory has the right to life.


                      shaking hands

                      rapport is rare drinks - Comrade understood you, - thanks.
            2. Alex 241
              Alex 241 28 September 2013 21: 24 New
              +1
              Earrings from an exhibition in Tagil.
              1. svp67
                svp67 28 September 2013 21: 31 New
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                Quote: Alex 241
                Earrings from an exhibition in Tagil.
                Hello hello. Well, where now there are no priests, especially since there is not a far spiritual center - Verkhoturye, and among the priests, there are many former soldiers ...
        2. jasper
          jasper 28 September 2013 12: 18 New
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          adult kind lol
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 28 September 2013 12: 50 New
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            Quote: yasenpen
            adult kind


            How scary to live.
          2. smile
            smile 28 September 2013 14: 03 New
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            jasper
            Yes, an adult ... and not forgotten, like some whistleblowers, Ivana, who do not remember kinship ...
        3. Uhe
          Uhe 28 September 2013 15: 25 New
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          So you remember what happened after the war with this Russian priest. They refused to recognize him as a priest, because he fought with weapons in his hands. His colleagues from the Church refused to recognize him. Among the priests there were many reactionaries. And now there are a lot of them - Russophobes, Greek-lovers.

          And in front of people like Fedor Andreevich Puzanov, I personally am always ready to bow my head in deep reverence, for these are real Russian magi - bright people!
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 28 September 2013 16: 18 New
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            Quote: Uhe
            And in front of people like Fedor Andreevich Puzanov, I personally am always ready to bow my head in deep reverence


            In 1944, the second-degree holder of the Second World War Partisan Medal Fyodor Puzanov was appointed rector in the oaks of Gorki, only already Metropolitan Alexy. And at the same time - the Dean of the six districts of the Pskov diocese. True, not for long: already in 1945, he was again subjected to a kind of repression, only now from the side of direct leadership. The partisan was squeezed into career growth and removed from the post of dean. It got to the point that in 1947 he was humiliatingly kicked out of a gala banquet dedicated to the visit to Leningrad of the Metropolitan of Lebanese Mountains, Elijah Karami. And his son, who studied during the occupation for a year at the Vilna seminary, and after the liberation of the drafted into the Red Army and worthy of fighting before the Victory, who received two wounds, was not allowed to exams at the Leningrad Theological Seminary. Father Fyodor even addressed the team with a complaint: “Now I bear a shame from my meetings: they reproach me in partisanism. In 1945, Father Archpriest Tarasov repeatedly reproached me so much that we don’t need partisans ... "

            So the partisans, Fyodor Puzanov, died in 1965 by the humble rector of the Assumption Church in the village of Molochkov in the Soletsky District of the Novgorod Region, where he served from 1948 of the year. There, next to the temple, and buried. His son, Mikhail Fedorovich (also already deceased), by the way, nevertheless got his way, having risen to the rank of archpriest.
        4. Svyatoslavovich
          Svyatoslavovich 1 October 2013 20: 33 New
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          The further fate of Fyodor Puzanov is very interesting, oh, and he got from the Orthodox authorities ......
      2. brelok
        brelok 28 September 2013 21: 21 New
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        Quote: Karlsonn
        and by the way, to the question of our forum communists, did the priest fight for Stalin and communism, after the camps or for their homeland?

        My father joined the party in the Sargasov Sea in the 60's when their American destroyers drowned. They also wrote that if they die they are considered Communists! Stalin was not. Relatives dispossessed. Maybe all the same, it’s not Stalin’s business, but his homeland
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 28 September 2013 23: 50 New
          +2
          Quote: brelok
          My father joined the party in the Sargasov Sea in the 60's when their American destroyers drowned. They also wrote that if they die they are considered Communists! Stalin was not. Relatives dispossessed. Maybe all the same, it’s not Stalin’s business, but his homeland


          My grandfather, a Chekist (bloody ghoul), took a girl who had been evicted from Ukraine to the Far East as his wife, which broke his career in the NKVD, received a number of knife and guns in the service, while detaining border violators, during the liquidation of the Kwantung group he received a splinter under his heart, from whose death 1958 year.
          His funeral was organized by the KGB Blagoveshchensk branch.
          The stove still stands --- a low bow.
        2. bya965
          bya965 29 September 2013 07: 29 New
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          Quote: brelok
          Maybe all the same, it’s not Stalin’s business, but the Motherland

          Of course in the homeland, only the enemy will argue here. Understand a simple thing, in that great war for us, everything was on the verge. And with the current leaders, unlike Stalin, we would have one chance to partisan.

          He is the people, as they are, they cannot be remade. Here the leadership should not disappoint. So that it is in Stalin.
    2. Rider
      Rider 28 September 2013 12: 13 New
      +3
      poor ash-tree, in vain you got here with your anti-commis program.

      Carlson parvit you like an ace heating pad.

      however, it may even come to you that IDIOLOGY is not always a useless thing.
    3. Uhe
      Uhe 28 September 2013 15: 21 New
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      That is why most of those going to their deaths expressed their last wish: "Consider me a communist!"

      During the war, the number of Communists in the party increased many times over. But few priests fought for the USSR, unfortunately. Even such famous people as Pimen and Alexy 2, were hiding from conscription in the army. Pimen, however, either hid, or served as a clerk somewhere. However, Pimen was a good, Soviet man, no matter what, and the last real Russian Patriarch.

      I personally knew a man who, after the war, took tonsure and became a very advanced old man. There were some. I respect them very much, because these Soviet people, who were initially at a high spiritual level, advanced even further by choosing a spiritual bond, but the merits of the Russian Orthodox Church are not a drop here, because it was their choice. Yes, the then Patriarch Sergius was an excellent person, supporting Stalin, showing the highest opinion about Stalin, but most of the so-called priests remained reactionaries. It is enough to recall that it is the so-called the Orthodox Church abroad prayed for the victory of German arms and for Hitler. Selling bastards, which were then combined with the Russian Orthodox Church. Admire yourself: http://images.yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%D1%86%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%
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      %B8%D1%82%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0&stype=image&lr=213&noreask=1&source=wiz&uinfo=
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      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 28 September 2013 16: 14 New
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        Quote: Uhe
        I personally knew a man who, after the war, took tonsure and became a very advanced old man. There were some.


        The rector of the church in the name of the Protection of the Virgin in the village of Hvarosno, Logishinsky district, Pinsk region, John Loiko, publicly blessed his three sons, Vladimir, George and Alexander, to join the partisans. In February 1943 of the year, Khvoros was surrounded by punitive. The partisan command decided to leave without a fight and, together with the civilian population, leave the encirclement. Father John was left with the remaining, mostly sick, crippled, elderly. On February 15, the Germans burned him along with three hundred parishioners right in the temple.

        Archpriest Alexander Fedorovich Romanushko, rector of the church in the village of Malo-Plotnitskoye, Logishinsky district, Pinsk region, served in the Pinsk partisan formation from the summer of 1942 to the summer of 1944 of the year. Repeatedly participated in military and intelligence operations. He was awarded the medal "Partisan of the Patriotic War" I degree. By the way, it was he who, in 1943 year, being under armed guerrilla guards, at the funeral of the murdered policeman addressed the audience with the following words:
        Brothers and sisters, I understand the great sorrow of the mother and father of the murdered. But he did not deserve our prayers “with the saints repose” with his life in the grave. He is a traitor to the Motherland and a killer of innocent children and the elderly. Instead of eternal memory, let’s say: “Anathema”.
        The father advised the friends of the deceased to repent and stand up against fascism in order to atone for his grave sins. After a brief but juicy sermon, a group of policemen left the partisans right from the funeral.
        By the way, his two sons bravely fought with the Germans, first in partisans, and then in the Red Army, returned home with orders.

        On photo:

        Archpriest Alexander Romanushko with fellow guerrillas.
      2. Kostik
        Kostik 28 September 2013 17: 28 New
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        Uhe, do you study history from pictures on Yandex? And on your link, except for two constantly repeating photos, I did not see anything on the topic.

        About the role of the church you have a strange logic:
        If we talk about the church (ROC) as a single organization, then it was against Hitler and organized propaganda work and all possible assistance even through the front, not to mention internal work.
        And if we are talking about individuals (in this case, priests) who, due to certain circumstances, found themselves "on the other side of the barricades," then what does the church have to do with it? Well, let's say that the Red Army is a crowd of traitors and there was no benefit from them because there was Vlasov and so on. Similar logic?
      3. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 28 September 2013 17: 50 New
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        Quote: Uhe
        It is enough to recall that it is the so-called the Orthodox Church abroad prayed for the victory of German arms and for Hitler. Selling bastards, which were then combined with the Russian Orthodox Church.
        1. Kostik
          Kostik 28 September 2013 18: 11 New
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          Have you heard anything about propaganda and agitation? Now, next to this agitation leaflet, put another one, which speaks of the victorious march of German troops in captured Moscow. And all this on RenTV.
          As one of the historians rightly said - the most terrible weapon is disinformation, how many years have passed and seekers of "sensations" are still undermined by such "mines".
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 28 September 2013 19: 11 New
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            Quote: Kostik
            Have you heard anything about propaganda and agitation?


            wink

            watch from 3: 27 to 6: 22 wink

            1. svp67
              svp67 28 September 2013 21: 20 New
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              Quote: Karlsonn
              watch from 3: 27 to 6: 22

              I consider this film one of the best and most truthful about that war ...
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 28 September 2013 22: 49 New
                +1
                Quote: svp67
                I consider this film one of the best and most truthful about that war ...


                I recommend Ozerov’s films, my grandfather is a paratrooper (he fought with 22 1941 and before the capture of Kenegsberg), with 1942 in reconnaissance; about this film said the following:
                - it is a pity there is no strength to cut out these vrazhin.
                1. svp67
                  svp67 29 September 2013 00: 36 New
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                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  I recommend Ozerov’s films,

                  Thank you, I watched it more than once ... But after the "Soldier of Victory", alas, as it is not very ... It's too much "for varnished"
                  1. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn 29 September 2013 00: 44 New
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                    Quote: svp67
                    Thank you, I watched it more than once ... But after the "Soldier of Victory", alas, as it is not very ... It's too much "for varnished"


                    belay
                2. svp67
                  svp67 29 September 2013 00: 39 New
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                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  my grandfather is a paratrooper (he fought from 22 1941 until the capture of Kenegsberg), since 1942 in reconnaissance; about this film said the following:
                  - it is a pity there is no strength to cut out these vrazhin.

                  On June 22.06.1941, 11, I met on the Bug coast not far from Brest, the miracle survived that day, and ended the war on May XNUMX on the Austro-Czech border by hand-to-hand fighting with the Vlasovites, fiercely hated all traitors, but was very neutral towards the priests ...
                  1. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn 29 September 2013 00: 49 New
                    +1
                    Quote: svp67
                    My 22.06.1941 met on the bank of the Bug not far from Brest, a miracle survived that day,


                    My twice went out of the environment. We didn’t throw weapons and party cards.

                    Quote: svp67
                    and ended the war on May 11 on the Austro-Czech border by hand-to-hand fighting with the Vlasovites, fiercely hated all traitors,


                    Grandfather taught me how to use a knife, I asked him about Vlasovites --- my grandfather said:
                    - we slaughtered them like sheep (my grandfather is a professional paratrooper).
    4. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 28 September 2013 20: 30 New
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      they fought for our land and Motherland, so that the enemy didn’t reach your home and raped your family, fought for tormented villages and villages, it wasn’t in religion but a struggle for the lives of children and women, they fought for our future!
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 28 September 2013 21: 31 New
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        Quote: Soldier's grandson
        they fought for our land and Motherland, so that the enemy didn’t reach your home and raped your family, fought for tormented villages and villages, it wasn’t in religion but a struggle for the lives of children and women, they fought for our future!


        My great-grandfather, who was dispossessed and did not finish only because he had been for the Reds since the 1918 of the year (supplied the partisans with weapons and food), was shot by the Germans in the winter of the 1942 of the year.
  2. balovnik
    balovnik 28 September 2013 10: 52 New
    +2
    Faith drives people
    1. Uhe
      Uhe 28 September 2013 15: 38 New
      -2
      Yeah. No brains, wisdom - to landfill, one faith come on;)
      1. Rider
        Rider 28 September 2013 16: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: Uhe
        come on one faith;)


        why so?

        Mind, Conscience, Faith.

        what is not the holy trinity?
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 28 September 2013 17: 21 New
          +1
          Rider hi

          Quote: Rider
          why so?

          Mind, Conscience, Faith.


          Comrade in a fuse with a saber waved his chur, everyone believes only in different ways and in different ways.
          1. Rider
            Rider 28 September 2013 18: 07 New
            +2
            Quote: Karlsonn
            all believe only in different ways and in different things.


            each has its own path to God.
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 28 September 2013 19: 20 New
              +2
              Quote: Rider
              each has its own path to God.


              I agree, let me subscribe.

              On photo:

              The shooting of a communist during street fighting in Bavaria. Munich, Bavarian Soviet Republic, May 1 1919 years.

              clickable. soldier
  3. jasper
    jasper 28 September 2013 12: 17 New
    -13 qualifying.
    - the priest, like the rest of the country, fought for his homeland, as did Stalin.

    then you are not a communist !!! or not a real communist, for where are your Soviet slogans so boring to people in the union! communist !!!
    zs and a comrade about the "communists in front" has been sorted out more than once laughing
    these phrases appeared after scoring, in the charter of the Red Army there were no such commands laughing
    or do you claim that the Red Army did not comply with the charter?
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 28 September 2013 13: 18 New
      +9
      Quote: yasenpen
      then you are not a communist !!!


      This is not like you comrade judge. With all due respect hi .

      Quote: yasenpen
      for where are your, so bored people in the union, Soviet slogans! communist !!!


      I know perfectly well who are tired of communist slogans.
      I realize this every time I see homeless children and Bentleys on the streets; old men collecting bottles in trash bins and majors wandering around boutiques; prostitutes, drug addicts, drinking and smoking schoolchildren, etc. etc..
      Not like you comrade talk about communism.

      Quote: yasenpen
      zs and a comrade about the "communists in front" has been sorted out more than once


      Who understood? belay Both of my grandfathers joined the Communist Party even before the war began, tell me --- "I figured out about it."

      Quote: yasenpen
      these phrases appeared after scoring, in the charter of the Red Army there were no such commands
      or do you claim that the Red Army did not comply with the charter?


      Comrade is sad, why do not you know the history of your homeland?
      Indeed, there were no such commands in the charter, the command - "COMMUNISTS FORWARD" was given in critical cases, mainly when going into battle was tantamount to death and in this case the commander could not demand anything from the personnel. And the commander gave the command - "COMMUNISTS FORWARD" and the communists, out of personal duty, loyalty and party discipline, went first.
      Looking at them, many fighters asked commissars, and later political officers consider them to be Communists in case of death.
      I recommend reading:
      - "Young Guard" Alexander Fadeev;
      - "The Story of a Real Man" by Boris Polevoy;
      - "Pioneer Heroes" http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3993624;

      Ask the comrade a question:
      - Why did the Germans shoot, when captured commissars and communists?



      And this what , comrade, do not disgrace the deed of our fallen ancestors by your ignorance, study the history of native aspens. hi
      1. svp67
        svp67 28 September 2013 21: 24 New
        +1
        Quote: Karlsonn
        why did the Germans shoot, when captured commissars and communists?
        On this occasion, they had a definite order requiring the unconditional destruction of the commissars, as carriers of an alien idea. In the Brest Fortress, for all that, another factor played that, on the orders of Fomin, the captured Austrians were captured, captured by our soldiers in the first days of the fighting ...
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 28 September 2013 23: 03 New
          +2
          Quote: svp67
          On this occasion, they had a certain order requiring the unconditional destruction of commissars as carriers of an alien idea.


          The village where my ancestors lived drove to the execution of my great-grandfather. Five months later, the punishers burned almost 200 people (they did not go into the forest).

          Quote: svp67
          In the Brest Fortress, for all that, the factor also played out that, on the order of Fomin, the captured Austrians were captured, captured by our soldiers in the first days of the fighting ...


          Well, I’m an incest type of Belarusan-Ukrainian-Russian from the generation of my ancestors, two of my grandfathers and one of my cousin --- from 58 people survived.

          I remember my ancestors who were burned alive, I remember my ancestors who were tortured in the Gestapo and where they died ...

          Quote: svp67
          that, on Fomin’s order, captured Austrians were executed,


          Kamrad, are you not afraid to meet me? fellow I’m beating heads like you. repeat
          1. svp67
            svp67 29 September 2013 00: 11 New
            +1
            Quote: Karlsonn
            Kamrad, are you not afraid to meet me?

            As if to put it mildly, I’ve been afraid of my 25 years ago ...
            Quote: Karlsonn
            I’m beating heads like you.

            If this is your ONLY argument in this dispute, then you are not at all interesting to me ... And on the account of whom and what you repulsed or squeezed there, you can brag a lot - the paper will endure everything .... wassat "Do not brag about the army walking ..."
            And your reaction is honestly not clear. The fact that Fomin ordered the execution of Austrian prisoners was not a secret. Honestly, in the situation that our garrison turned out to be, this measure was, if not forced, then logical. And, although this contradicts international laws, I understand it, and I don’t know what decisions I myself would make in this situation, especially after the Austrians used our prisoners of war several times as a human shield ...
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 29 September 2013 02: 15 New
              0
              Quote: svp67
              As if to put it mildly, I’ve been afraid of my 25 years ago ...


              I respect, but the heads of people who say this:

              Quote: svp67
              In the Brest Fortress, the factor also played a role in everything.
              beat off. yes Well, or break off ..

              Quote: svp67
              If this is your ONLY argument in this dispute, then you are not at all interesting to me ..


              I’m not interested in the Nazi loafers, like a Soviet athlete and a descendant of my ancestors --- I feel like finishing a banderlog.


              Quote: svp67
              "Do not brag about the army walking ..."


              I do not boast, ---- I challenge to battle.

              Quote: svp67
              And your reaction is honestly not clear


              In the ring or the wrestling circle, I’ll explain it popularly.

              Quote: svp67
              The fact that Fomin ordered the execution of prisoners Austrian


              Like, I’m listening carefully as Fomin ordered the soldiers of the former 4 Austrian division to be executed.
          2. Alex 241
            Alex 241 29 September 2013 00: 35 New
            +5
            Kars, you're wrong about svp67, and specifically wrong, we are not here to bend our heads off, albeit virtually. All have sworn allegiance to one banner, and there’s nothing to share here! Sincerely.
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 29 September 2013 00: 53 New
              +2
              Quote: Alex 241
              All have sworn allegiance to one banner, and there’s nothing for us to share


              I took the oath, I swore the Red Banner, I have no where to rush.
              I won’t break the oath.
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 29 September 2013 00: 55 New
                0
                For this I respect you! The banner and oath is forever!
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 29 September 2013 01: 20 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Alex 241
                  For this I respect you! The banner and oath is forever!


                  The oath is not broken.
                  As a grandson, a son and .... I’m holding a security officer:

                  I, a citizen of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics .....
                  entering the service in the state security body, I take the oath and solemnly swear
                  .

                  1. Alex 241
                    Alex 241 29 September 2013 01: 31 New
                    +2
                    If everything is shoulder to shoulder, because we have nothing to share!
                    1. Karlsonn
                      Karlsonn 29 September 2013 01: 38 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Alex 241
                      If everything is shoulder to shoulder, because we have nothing to share!


                      Allow me to stand beside you. soldier
                      1. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 29 September 2013 01: 48 New
                        +2
                        I'll be honored! soldier
                      2. Karlsonn
                        Karlsonn 29 September 2013 02: 37 New
                        +2
                        let me in stock, but still:
                        cool movie good - my Alaverdi --- FOR CHEKIST!

                      3. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 29 September 2013 02: 41 New
                        +1
                        And the security officers, and all who defended their homeland!
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                      9. Karlsonn
                        Karlsonn 29 September 2013 03: 05 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Alex 241
                        And the security officers, and all who defended their homeland!


                      10. patrianostra
                        patrianostra 29 September 2013 11: 26 New
                        0
                        The film which spurred the KGB GDP
              2. Alex 241
                Alex 241 29 September 2013 01: 41 New
                +4
                Well, as a result, my traditional!
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 29 September 2013 01: 48 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Alex 241
                  Well, as a result, my traditional!


                  To my uncle, the MI-8 helicopter pilot

                2. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 29 September 2013 01: 53 New
                  +1
                  I bow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                3. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 29 September 2013 01: 57 New
                  +1
                  ..................
                4. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 29 September 2013 02: 20 New
                  0
                  Anisimov is good

                  Those who did not fly will not understand.



                  All the pilots - the guys are not holding, but holding in your hands.
            2. patrianostra
              patrianostra 29 September 2013 11: 33 New
              0
              Workaholic of war
          3. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 29 September 2013 02: 40 New
            +1
            Quote: Alex 241
            Well, as a result, my traditional!


            Do not write us off

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          5. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 29 September 2013 03: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: Karlsonn
            Do not write us off

            Guys! I am here with you soldier drinks And what kind of a bunch of deleted posts?
          6. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 29 September 2013 03: 43 New
            +1
            Quote: Ruslan67
            Guys! I am here with you


            drinks we will remove them! at a time!

            Quote: Ruslan67
            And what kind of a bunch of deleted posts?


            wink
          7. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 29 September 2013 03: 51 New
            +2
            Got it yes Strike out bully
          8. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 29 September 2013 04: 01 New
            +1
            Quote: Ruslan67
            Got it


            Friend, water them at a time. angry
          9. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 29 September 2013 04: 08 New
            +1
            So admins are against request I used to have a good order .. what And the mood laughing during the evening he wore a couple of skulls and modernization sent to the bath am And now you’ll put two minuses in a row about evil and you’ll go to the bathhouse yourself sad But think of something
    2. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 29 September 2013 04: 00 New
      0
      Quote: Ruslan67
      And what kind of a bunch of deleted posts?


      stupidly impossible to express a thought. crying
    3. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 29 September 2013 04: 04 New
      +1
      I already noticed negative How a little distracted by business so out of all the cracks come out
    4. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 29 September 2013 05: 13 New
      0
      Quote: Ruslan67
      How a little distracted by business so out of all the cracks come out


      Black pea jackets are covered at a time.
      Marines - shake hands.

  4. Karlsonn
    Karlsonn 29 September 2013 05: 00 New
    0


    Marines! you guys are above all !!!
    Black berets shake hands tightly. - Strength lads ... green near
  • jasper
    jasper 2 October 2013 18: 56 New
    0
    people, first of all, are tired of nonsense, "belief in a bright future" and queues in stores
    and never thought. what if not for the Jewish coup in Russia then Hitlerism would not have been? all socialist teachings are interconnected, including the national socialist and communist
  • jasper
    jasper 2 October 2013 18: 59 New
    0
    Indeed, there were no such commands in the charter, the command - "COMMUNISTS FORWARD" was given in critical cases,

    do you believe in fairy tales?
    and the squabble between the Communists and National Socialists, primarily the intraspecific socialist, at the level of ideologists and at the level of grassroots structures is just structural, I personally do not care what ideology killed the Russians, according to the communist or national socialist
  • Uhe
    Uhe 28 September 2013 15: 39 New
    0
    To begin with, it would not be bad to learn to write in Russian, and then you can try and ulcerate. However, fools high art of jokes is not available.
  • drop
    drop 28 September 2013 12: 30 New
    +5
    I published a story-article in "Voennoye Obozreniye" - Special mission for reconnaissance. This is an excerpt from my story "The Wanderings and the Return of the Tikhvin Icon of the Mother of God". For our readers, I tried to highlight the role of clergy in protecting our Motherland. Their role is high and selfless, they serve God and their people. Many of them were awarded state awards for their exploits, and some were awarded State prizes and high military ranks. We should appreciate their work and adore them.
    1. Uhe
      Uhe 28 September 2013 15: 41 New
      +1
      Worship, yes, but like the millions of those who fought for our country, both at the front and in the rear. Everyone fulfilled their task, they all deserved our respect and admiration, because they defended our Fatherland in front of the fiercest and most powerful enemy.

      Well, the Communists were many times more priests. Like it or not, it was the Communists who made the decisive contribution to the victory, however this does not detract from the role of everyone, but one does not have to stick out the role of the individual.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 28 September 2013 16: 22 New
        +2
        The priest of the village of Blyachino, Kletsk district of the Baranavichy region, Nikolai Aleksandrovich Khiltov, constantly helped scouts of the Vasily Ivanovich Chapaev brigade operating in the same region. At the church house, he created a "rest house", where the wounded and sick partisans regained their health. 6 April 1944 year for helping partisans, he was arrested along with his brother George Alexandrovich, also a priest. They were tortured to death in the Koldychevo concentration camp, and together with their wives.

        The rector of the temple of the village of Kobylniki, Myadel district, Vileika region, Peter Batsyan, had the courage to help Jews. He was arrested by the SD. In a Minsk prison, the liberators of the USSR from Bolshevism harnessed it to a plow and plowed a prison garden on it, and then poisoned dogs to death.

        On photo:

        Partisan intelligence officer, rector of the Vidon church of the Utorgosh region Methodius Belov says goodbye to his daughter Rufina, a partisan intelligence officer. In 1943, while performing an intelligence mission at Dno station, Father Methodius was captured by the Germans and shot after torture.
        1. soldier's grandson
          soldier's grandson 28 September 2013 20: 52 New
          0
          well, after what he saw, it became clear what to fight for, such people were always sure that they still exist, I do not believe that RUSSIA will disappear
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 28 September 2013 23: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: Soldier's grandson
            well, after what he saw, it became clear what to fight for, such people were always sure that they still exist, I do not believe that RUSSIA will disappear


            Kamrad, I personally will wipe everyone who opens their mouths on Russia.
  • Chukcha
    Chukcha 28 September 2013 18: 17 New
    +2
    Quote: yasenpen
    Faith is the only thing that helps a person to survive in a war and not break, not become a beast ....

    100500
    When the war massacre begins, only Faith helps not to fall to the level of the Beast (animals).
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 28 September 2013 19: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Chukcha
      When the war massacre begins, only Faith helps not to fall to the level of the Beast (animals).


      You can argue winked .


      Quote: Chukcha
      (animals).


      Comrad, who are you talking about?
  • galiullinrasim
    galiullinrasim 28 September 2013 19: 13 New
    +1
    at our time, all sorts of pussirashushki desecrate the temple until
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 28 September 2013 19: 25 New
      +4
      Quote: galiullinrasim
      at our time, all sorts of pussirashushki desecrate the temple until


      As a communist, I believe that such females should be given 10 years of felling. am
  • Glory333
    Glory333 28 September 2013 23: 08 New
    0
    Such a strong and brave man had to start a family, bring up many children, and so he buried himself alive in a monastery praying to Jehovah, his family, alas, broke off on him.
  • svp67
    svp67 29 September 2013 00: 32 New
    +4
    In the Airborne Forces, that you are political officer, that you are a logistician, that you are a priest - all are equal before the "landing God"
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 29 September 2013 00: 55 New
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      In the Airborne Forces, that you are political officer, that you are a logistician, that you are a priest - all are equal before the "landing God"


      and vovany, which lick the brilliant green does not count?
      1. svp67
        svp67 29 September 2013 00: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: Karlsonn
        and vovany, which lick the brilliant green does not count?

        In war, everyone has their own work ... and the "vovans" have enough of it there, especially if the war is from the category of "modern Punic" ....
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 29 September 2013 01: 39 New
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          In war, everyone has their own work ... and the "vovans" have enough of it there, especially if the war is from the category of "modern Punic" ....


          and there is.
    2. svp67
      svp67 29 September 2013 01: 27 New
      +1
      It’s interesting if you pphrase and rethink the slogan of the Airborne Forces, then for the "landing priests" it will probably sound: "Where the flock, there we are ..."
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 29 September 2013 01: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        That's interesting if you paraphrase and rethink the slogan of the Airborne Forces


        do not, blue vests do not understand.

        Quote: svp67
        , then for the "landing priests" it will probably sound: "Where the flock, there we are ..."


        But how will it sound for us? BB?
        1. svp67
          svp67 29 September 2013 01: 49 New
          +1
          Quote: Karlsonn
          But how will it sound for us? BB?

          But by and large it is the same for all the priests ...
        2. Kolovrat77
          Kolovrat77 29 September 2013 02: 16 New
          0
          Dear Aleksey Telnyashka in the Airborne Forces is not blue. Think about why.
          Sky
          Sky
          Or are you on purpose.
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 29 September 2013 03: 24 New
            +2
            Quote: Kolovrat77
            Dear Aleksey Telnyashka in the Airborne Forces is not blue. Think about why.
            Sky
            Sky


            I know if it weren’t for the spotted one, I would wear a green cap - I’ve been preparing for this since 1982.

            Quote: Kolovrat77
            Or are you on purpose.


            I got into the hole, we, the fighters of the Olympic reserve, went to the military registration and enlistment office in order to get into the border guards. We were aware that we are more prepared, like we are from the families of officers, athletes, well, and all that - we like in Afghanistan could bring more benefit;
            in the end, two of us remained sixteen ..

            1. Kolovrat77
              Kolovrat77 29 September 2013 04: 02 New
              +1
              We in 90 also did not run. The war was on. It is necessary.
          2. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 29 September 2013 06: 49 New
            0
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      2. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 29 September 2013 06: 03 New
        0


        Quote: svp67
        the slogan of the Airborne Forces, then for the "landing priests" it will apparently sound: "Where the flock, there we are ..."
  • Karlsonn
    Karlsonn 29 September 2013 03: 36 New
    +1
    For the guys in the boots.
    Guys are waiting for you at home, come back.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 29 September 2013 04: 06 New
      +1
      A blessed memory to all the fallen comrades from the state security .....

      We remember you guys. Wait for us.
      1. In the reeds
        In the reeds 29 September 2013 18: 58 New
        -2
        To another 40 million died in civil communism you already did in the promised 1980
  • Farvil
    Farvil 29 September 2013 23: 33 New
    0
    Not a couple of the current priest.
  • sillsas
    sillsas 4 October 2013 12: 13 New
    0
    The current vodka - nicotine king Cyril would have been sick with a bear disease!