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How many Russians participate in the battles against the troops of Assad, and what will Russia do with them?

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Almost from the very beginning of the Syrian conflict, the Federal Security Service stated that Russian citizens could fight on the side of anti-government forces in Syria. In the early summer of 2013, the director of the FSB, Vladimir Bortnikov, said that there were about two hundred Russians among the militants in Syria. What methods have been able to determine the number of Syrian militants with a Russian passport, naturally, do not apply to the FSB. But it is noteworthy that with each new month, the number of Russian militants in Syria, according to estimates by the FSB of Russia, has constantly increased.


In September, 2013, the first deputy director of the FSB, Sergey Smirnov, noted that the number of persons possessing a Russian passport and fighting on the side of the so-called Syrian rebels in the SAR can reach four hundred.

How many Russians participate in the battles against the troops of Assad, and what will Russia do with them?


At the time, Ramzan Kadyrov, who was asked by journalists about the possible participation of Chechen residents in the Syrian conflict on the side of the so-called SAS (Syrian Army of Freedom), spoke out in a rather harsh manner, stating the following:

This is an absolute lie. Chechens do not fight in Syria. At least with full responsibility we can talk about the inhabitants of the Chechen Republic (Chechnya). And as for the likes of Gelayev, Basayev and others, they have no homeland, they lost it long ago. In Chechnya, they did not succeed. All that they have achieved in the republic is the curse of the people who still curse them.


Then Kadyrov spoke in a slightly different way:

Once again I want to emphasize that the citizens of Russia of Chechen nationality do not take part in military operations in Syria, on any side. Reported systematically by Western media and, unfortunately, supported by individual Russian publications, rumors are artificially spread in order to create the appearance of citizens of the Russian Federation participating in this conflict.


The last statement is especially interesting. It is interesting mainly because it does not mate with the information provided by the top of the FSB. It turns out that someone regarding the presence of a certain number of Russians in Syria and their participation on the side of the militants still has inadequate information: either the FSB director Bortnikov and his first deputy Smirnov, or the head of the Chechen Republic Kadyrov ...

In this case, of course, I would like to believe Kadyrov, amusing myself with the thought that the rumors about the existence of Russian mercenaries in Syria, as they say, are greatly exaggerated, but ...

If you trust only the top of the FSB about the presence in Syria of people with Russian passports (Chechens or any other Russians) acting on the side of the militants, then now, in principle, it’s not so important, 200 them or 400. It is important how many of these, say, the gentlemen will survive, and, accordingly, how many of them will return to their “native pensions” - on the territory of the Russian Federation, where they obviously will not move on to a calm and peaceful life. Assuming that such “survivors” will indeed begin to return to the territory of Russia, it is worth considering options for what the Russian state will do to them. This question is by no means idle, since if the state closes its eyes to the “returnees,” this will create a negative precedent.

On the one hand, the following can be noted: what can the state (the FSB, for example) do to those who are on the side of SAS, because it couldn’t block their departure, which means that it’s likely that they will miss their return. Indeed, the “returnees”, remaining dark horses today, can return without special obstacles, let's say, with unconventional routes (well, not at all through customs control points) tomorrow, merging with the underground gang, which they probably entered before to Syria. The situation when returning may have another appearance: well, a person returns from Syria, so what? The fact that he participated on the side of disparate gangsters will have to be proved if any of the competent authorities of the Russian Federation wants to do it at all.

Nevertheless, let us assume that the FSB decides to take on the "returnees" in full, and arrange a real hunt for them. What's next? If you do not take into account the situation in which those who returned to Russia who fought on the side of the “Syrian Free Army” can be destroyed while trying to resist at the time of checking the documents, the legal component of the issue can be quite confusing.

The fact is that in our legislation, the attitude of the state to those who fought in third countries on the side of forces that are not supported by the Russian authorities is quite sparingly spelled out. Looking through the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, you can come across an article with the number 359, in which there is an item 3, which says:

Participation of a mercenary in an armed conflict or hostilities

is punished by imprisonment for the term from three up to seven years with restriction of freedom for up to one year or without it.
Note. A mercenary is a person who is acting for the purpose of receiving material remuneration and who is not a citizen of a state participating in an armed conflict or military actions, who does not reside permanently on its territory, and who is not a person who is assigned to perform official duties.


So, "seven" for participation in the Syrian armed conflict on the side of the so-called SED can only be received by that friend with a Russian passport who was rewarded for his actions financially. But it will be extremely difficult to collect evidence of obtaining material benefits by such a “returnee”. The militants, of course, keep their accounting, but to prove the guilt of an individual militant, the Russian or Syrian special services will have to get hold of this accounting, which is far from easy. There are, however, alternative options. For example, use the methods of the extremists themselves (like the "fake" himataki by Assad troops): to conclude such "accounting reports" as "irrefutable evidence" ... But all this, firstly, is not done quickly, secondly, simply honor and "gestures" for some, I'm sorry, bastards.

You can, of course, speak in favor of the deprivation of Russian citizenship and for sending them to the same Assad. But here there is a difficulty. The Constitution of the Russian Federation has a remarkable article - become No. XXUMX, which states that a citizen of the Russian Federation cannot be deprived of citizenship and the right to change it. Like this!

In general, wherever you throw, everywhere is a wedge with respect to these potential "returnees." The fact that the "wedge" can be understood also by the example of the Libyan scenario. On the territory of Libya for the so-called insurgent army, according to intelligence, fighters fought with Russian passports. However, not a single criminal case on this matter was instituted, as there was no information on subsequent domestic Russian operations against those who actively fought as a mercenary against Gadhafi’s troops.

It turns out that such mercenaries are simply out of reach for Russian justice. If the FSB is going to change this situation, then you have to work, roll up your sleeves. And if you work, then the simplest option is still “was eliminated during the arrest” ... If someone suddenly woke up humanism towards such “Russians” and voiced the desire “not to aggravate the demographic situation in the country”, It may be recalled that while someone and somewhere, having a Russian passport, runs with a grenade launcher or cuts the throat of civilians, tens of thousands of law-abiding citizens of the country who arrived in Russia under the program of returning Russian families from the CIS republics cannot receive citizenship for years ...
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  1. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 25 September 2013 07: 57 New
    14
    How many Russians participate in the battles against the troops of Assad, and what will Russia do with them?

    And what do they usually do with terrorists, in this case international?

    1. vadimus
      vadimus 25 September 2013 08: 06 New
      50
      Why plant them? Let them lie in Syrian land ....
      1. Max otto
        Max otto 25 September 2013 09: 46 New
        11
        Exactly, he himself thought the same. They must perish and that’s it. But how, this FSB should not be classified for centuries.
        1. танк
          танк 25 September 2013 10: 44 New
          +6
          How many Russians participate in battles


          What kind of Russians? Caucasians wow !!!
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 25 September 2013 10: 49 New
            -21


            but here’s a fresh example for you .. I hope in accent do not say that she is from the Caucasus ... hi
            1. bask
              bask 25 September 2013 10: 56 New
              28
              Quote: smersh70
              but here’s a fresh example for you .. I hope in accent do not say that she is from the Caucasus ...

              Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, wives of Arabs of the Syrians. Before Syria, thousands lived in Syria.
              The militants seized one, put a knife to the throat of her children, and on the camera she said what was demanded of her.
              Quote: smersh70
              smersh70

              If you were in such a situation, you would also say what is required of you.
              So this video is Fake, beast-militants !!!!!
              1. bask
                bask 25 September 2013 11: 02 New
                +6
                But this is a video, pure truth, with a Caucasian accent.
                1. Geisenberg
                  Geisenberg 25 September 2013 13: 42 New
                  +6
                  Quote: bask
                  But this is a video, pure truth, with a Caucasian accent.


                  In the background, the Taliban is somehow, in principle, it is clear where they come from. And the dude himself doesn’t seem to be Caucasian. This is a resident of some kind of Central Asian republic, Russian toli is semi-Russian, among those who remained there after the collapse. I met such. In Russian it is bad and with an accent, in Uzbek it is better than the Uzbeks themselves, and the erysipelas are Ryazan.
                  1. bask
                    bask 25 September 2013 17: 43 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Geisenberg
                    . And the dude himself doesn’t seem to be Caucasian.

                    Quote: Geisenberg
                    Ki, and erysipelas Ryazan.

                    So, this is what the competent authorities and intelligence should do. Identify the identity of the militants and, if possible, "soak them in a sarithir" "on the spot in Syria.
                    It is long overdue that the GRU special forces should be sent to Syria EXACTLY FOR HUNTING AND SHOOTING HOME-BROWNED Militants !!!!
                    Whatever a militant, did not return from Syria alive to Russia.
                    1. Geisenberg
                      Geisenberg 25 September 2013 22: 35 New
                      +6
                      Quote: bask
                      EXACTLY FOR HUNTING AND SHOT OF HOME-BROWNED Militants !!!!


                      You are very sir bloodthirsty. Nenad send us no special forces in Syria. The Syrians themselves will kill everyone, on an initiative basis. We need to drive our bearded at home.
                      1. bask
                        bask 25 September 2013 22: 44 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Geisenberg

                        You are very sir bloodthirsty.

                        Now is the time, not you, so you.
                        Quote: Geisenberg
                        Syrians will kill everyone

                        But you need to play it safe. The main thing is that not one hobbit from Syria alive returned to Russia.
                2. igor67
                  igor67 25 September 2013 17: 34 New
                  +2
                  ... From the fourth minute, the Chechen tells about his exploits. True, because of the Olympics in Syria, "Caucasians do not fight",
                  1. 31231
                    31231 25 September 2013 20: 16 New
                    +4
                    Funny Czechs. Syrian flies are probably eating them up.
                3. Sandov
                  Sandov 26 September 2013 09: 07 New
                  +1
                  Basque.
                  The special services have a lot of work, where damn the results.
                4. GTI
                  GTI 26 September 2013 17: 25 New
                  0
                  What is his automatic machine? who will say
              2. Sinbad
                Sinbad 25 September 2013 13: 14 New
                +2
                Look carefully at her eyes!
              3. танк
                танк 25 September 2013 17: 01 New
                11
                She says she’s almost crying, scared. Arabs, Caucasians love to hide behind the backs of women and children, we know already ...
              4. berimor
                berimor 25 September 2013 18: 44 New
                +4
                Actually, after living in the Caucasus for more than 6 years, I will say that the girl has a slight accent close to the Caucasian one, well, maybe this affects the long stay in Syria. Although such a subtle accent (light breath and harder accentuation of some consonant sounds characteristic of many Caucasian languages) gives it away.
              5. Sterlya
                Sterlya 26 September 2013 09: 52 New
                +1
                what I felt several times watching, listening. This is her desire to flee far away to Russia. if I could. Sorry for the girl. her eyes are kind
            2. Geisenberg
              Geisenberg 25 September 2013 13: 44 New
              +3
              Quote: smersh70
              but here’s a fresh example for you .. I hope in accent do not say that she is from the Caucasus ... hi


              Well, either a stupid fool, or the trunk in the back of the head is stubborn, perhaps children are taken hostage. He looks away. By the way, is it by chance installation? You can overlay any text on such a picture.
            3. Suvorov000
              Suvorov000 25 September 2013 13: 45 New
              +4
              Well, you first look at her eyes)))))) it’s immediately obvious that she stands and recalls a poem at school that she memorized just half an hour before the lessons (if she finally doesn’t read a piece of paper))) it’s ridiculous to her as little children . If so bold then take off your handkerchief))
            4. RussianRu
              RussianRu 25 September 2013 14: 09 New
              +4
              Excitement overcomes this lass. Therefore, he speaks not of his own free will. But the text was clearly written not by Amer and not by the Arab, but by our Russian trickster.
            5. Sadikoff
              Sadikoff 25 September 2013 15: 20 New
              0
              She must have had a choice of two options.
              In general, there is nothing to be done on the topic — how the FSB knows everything, it knows from there. Not only that, I think in perspective, non-state security companies will be created in Russia, because it’s convenient for the state.
            6. Rosomaha67
              Rosomaha67 25 September 2013 15: 55 New
              +3
              ...... why is she fighting with a camera in her hands, and even reading from a piece of paper, you can see how her eyes are constantly running. Another embedded correspondent, "conducts a report with deep immersion", I remember Aslamova led the same from free Ichkeria, also with deep immersion in the vagina ...
              1. smersh70
                smersh70 25 September 2013 16: 45 New
                -3
                Quote: Rosomaha67
                Yes, and reads on a piece of paper, you can see how his eyes constantly run.


                so this is the same speech --- and everyone reads on a piece of paper, even Putin ... the only one who spoke not on a piece of paper ... is Castro Fidel ... Che Guevara .... and Hugo Chavez .... could speak for hours without pieces of paper ...
              2. Sandov
                Sandov 26 September 2013 09: 12 New
                +1
                Quote: Rosomaha67
                ...... why is she fighting with a camera in her hands, and even reading from a piece of paper, you can see how her eyes are constantly running. Another embedded correspondent, "conducts a report with deep immersion", I remember Aslamova led the same from free Ichkeria, also with deep immersion in the vagina ...


                The last line reflects the essence of this nonsense woman.
            7. Engineer
              Engineer 25 September 2013 17: 25 New
              -2
              so there are Caucasians with pure Russian, and Yakuts, Tuvans, Chuvashs, Kazakhs and many many other nationalities, people are different regardless of nationality, and that she somehow does not sincerely say, as Stanislavsi would say, "I do not believe!" No.
            8. Sandov
              Sandov 26 September 2013 09: 02 New
              +2
              Smersh.

              If a man puts a cleaver to his throat, what do you think he will sing. No need to replicate a lie here. Many people have already watched this.

              I think the FSB will find moves to remove these criminals from the story. At least once knew how to fix such problems. I hope the skills are not completely lost.
          2. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 25 September 2013 14: 21 New
            +1
            Quote: tank
            How many Russians participate in battles


            What kind of Russians? Caucasians wow !!!

            In Komsomol truth, there was an article and an interview with an FSB officer in which it was a question of 200 volunteers only from Tatarstan, although the Libyan War was also mentioned there. But the Caucasus is not Russia? I do not agree - you can go so far.
      2. cdrt
        cdrt 25 September 2013 21: 12 New
        0
        What hardingush described well with these Russians when he wrote about treatment. The best medicine is lead.
        Well, or his own - surrendered - the prison, did not surrender - the corpse. (not sure what I quote for sure).
    2. domokl
      domokl 25 September 2013 08: 20 New
      0
      Quote: GreatRussia
      And what do they usually do with terrorists, in this case international?

      What Aleksey wrote is either destroyed or imprisoned during detention. But such a petty question arises for me - But what about our citizens who fought in Serbia? More precisely, in Yugoslavia? Or Transnistria?
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 25 September 2013 08: 28 New
        +4
        Quote: domokl
        What Aleksey wrote is either destroyed or imprisoned during detention. But such a petty question arises for me - But what about our citizens who fought in Serbia? More precisely, in Yugoslavia? Or Transnistria?

        For whom? For al Qaeda aki in Syria? What to compare with? After all, completely different groups and forces.
        1. domokl
          domokl 25 September 2013 08: 39 New
          +2
          Quote: GreatRussia
          For whom? For al Qaeda aki in Syria? What to compare with? After all, completely different groups and forces.

          laughing Well ... And between that, the terrorists are fighting not only against, but also for Assad. Moreover, officially. Because then Israel has trump cards in its hands when it strikes against Syria.
          But the conversation is about how to punish mercenaries and what criteria should be taken into account. Today we support Assad, tomorrow no .. And people are at war. On both sides. And these dudes will return to the country.
      2. Hon
        Hon 25 September 2013 09: 21 New
        +2
        If it’s not a combatant, then a mercenary, although as far as I remember on such an article we haven’t attracted anyone yet, it is difficult to prove. How to prove he fought or rested in Turkey? Witnesses are his associates. And those whom the Syrian authorities will catch in Russia will not be needed.
        1. Airman
          Airman 25 September 2013 09: 43 New
          +3
          Quote: Hon
          . How to prove he fought or rested in Turkey? Witnesses are his associates.

          In Turkey, they rest for 2-3 weeks, and fight for months.
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 25 September 2013 10: 49 New
            0
            Not a fact - many people can freeze for half a year, especially those who can work remotely.
          2. Hon
            Hon 25 September 2013 11: 06 New
            +2
            And he went to friends, offered to stay, swelled for three months, or studied at a religious institution in Saudi Arabia. How to prove that he was at war at that time?
            1. Geisenberg
              Geisenberg 25 September 2013 22: 39 New
              0
              Quote: Hon
              And he went to friends, offered to stay, swelled for three months, or studied at a religious institution in Saudi Arabia. How to prove that he was at war at that time?


              Once again I say - a bruise from the butt, a burnt powder curling into the skin on my hands, traces of wounds.
              1. Hon
                Hon 26 September 2013 09: 55 New
                0
                Three months ago I was bluish from the butt, but I did not fight anywhere. All this is not primitive evidence, and no one will prove it, do we have control over who came from abroad, how much he was absent, and where was he?
            2. Sandov
              Sandov 26 September 2013 09: 15 New
              +1
              Quote: Hon
              And he went to friends, offered to stay, swelled for three months, or studied at a religious institution in Saudi Arabia. How to prove that he was at war at that time?


              No need to prove anything, Joseph Vissarionovich was able to establish contacts with such.
          3. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 25 September 2013 22: 38 New
            0
            Quote: Povshnik
            Quote: Hon
            . How to prove he fought or rested in Turkey? Witnesses are his associates.

            In Turkey, they rest for 2-3 weeks, and fight for months.


            Even easier. The bruise from the butt for about a month remains, and fragmentation and bullet wounds can not be hidden in principle. I do not believe that they all come from there whole. Another thing is that the hemorrhagic with them is unreal ... so far to arrest, so far to prove, so far so ...
      3. Djozz
        Djozz 25 September 2013 17: 48 New
        +1
        Our Cossacks, Kubans, fought in Transnistria, sapasaya the local population from the brutalized nationalists and Romanian scum! Some folded their heads. In the early 90s, some kind of full-fledged states on the ruins of the USSR could not be said!
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 25 September 2013 09: 16 New
      +5
      Quote: Kadyrov
      This is an absolute lie. Chechens do not fight in Syria. Once again I want to emphasize that Russian citizens of Chechen nationality do not take part in hostilities in Syria,


      He so angrily declared while they didn’t publish the video with the statement of the Chechen emir Abu Omar al-Chechen on the whole Internet,

      "We will do everything we can. With weapons in hand. We will kill with the help of Allah. First of all, we need money. Today, jihad is very dependent on money."



      After this, a fellow countryman admitted and said that the Chechens fighting in Syria took the path of the shaitan
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 25 September 2013 09: 36 New
        0


        if he doesn’t believe .. here’s a direct appeal of one of the commanders. by the way, maybe someone knows who he is .. in many videos he commands .... by the way, there is a shortage of fighters .. with what zeal he calls to go to Syria ....
        1. Lakkuchu
          Lakkuchu 25 September 2013 17: 23 New
          0
          The speaker’s emphasis on the video is not Chechen.
      2. eplewke
        eplewke 25 September 2013 10: 09 New
        13
        The answer is one! Destroy! There are no normal people there! When two priests were cutting their heads, Russian speech with a Caucasian accent was clearly heard in the video. Therefore, I repeat, there are no normal militants there - these are animals! And so there is only one way out - to wet it upon arrival without trial !!!!
        1. KazaK Bo
          KazaK Bo 25 September 2013 10: 33 New
          +3
          Quote: eplewke
          The answer is one! Destroy! There are no normal people there!

          That's right ... normal people are not there ... but "DESTROY"? So right away and ... at the expense? No, you need to be more merciful ... especially since we have a lot of work in Kolyma. They should be "EMPLOYED" there ... and not for the "seven", but for 25 years that way! An excuse to find - not such reasons and reasons were found that correspond to the necessary article of the Criminal Code ... as well as to prove that this dushman was not in Turkey, ... on vacation, but at war in ...
          And in addition, so that such fanatically inclined adherents of the radical trend of Islam did not give birth to their own kind, before sending them to Kolyma, they need to publicly WHICH Squeeze BETWEEN THE DOORS AND CAPTURE PRESSURE ... WHAT ALWAYS ALWAYS CELEBRATED (HIM LIKE) WAS NOT !! ! Say it really hurts? Nothing! Tolerate ... but alive! The same thing really hurts us when normal people die from their bullets!
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 25 September 2013 10: 52 New
            17
            As practice shows, they quickly get various certificates from us, dump them and then pop up again in the criminal news.
            My opinion is to dump, and bury in burial grounds with plague pigs.
          2. Airman
            Airman 25 September 2013 10: 54 New
            +9
            Quote: KazaK Bo

            That's right ... normal people are not there ... but "DESTROY"? So right away and ... at the expense? No, you need to be more merciful ... especially since we have a lot of work in Kolyma. They should be "EMPLOYED" there ... and not for the "seven", but for 25 years that way! An excuse to find - not such reasons and reasons were found that correspond to the necessary article of the Criminal Code ... as well as to prove that this dushman was not in Turkey, ... on vacation, but at war in ...
            And in addition, so that such fanatically inclined adherents of the radical trend of Islam did not give birth to their own kind, before sending them to Kolyma, they need to publicly WHICH Squeeze BETWEEN THE DOORS AND CAPTURE PRESSURE ... WHAT ALWAYS ALWAYS CELEBRATED (HIM LIKE) WAS NOT !! ! Say it really hurts? Nothing! Tolerate ... but alive! The same thing really hurts us when normal people die from their bullets!

            Destroy is not human. A bullet is cheaper than feed and guard.
        2. Scoun
          Scoun 25 September 2013 11: 16 New
          +5
          Quote: eplewke
          clearly in the video was heard Russian speech with a Caucasian accent.

          Experts recognized in their voices, Crimean accent, Crimean Tatars.
          This is precisely the case with the priests.
          Although I do not know to believe not to believe ...
          A Free Press source from the headquarters of the Anti-Terrorism Exercises, on condition of anonymity, provided an interesting detail. The other day, linguists were invited to the headquarters. The essence of the issue is the expert assessment of the video recording of the execution of the Catholic priest Francois Murad in Syria. Opposition militants inflicted medieval reprisals on him, allegedly for cooperation with the regime of Bashar al-Assad.

          Having tied the priest, the killers cut off his head, capturing what was happening on the cell phone’s camera, and then posted the record on the Internet. Moreover, Russian speech is clearly audible there. At the peak of a terrible execution, a loud command in Russian wedges into the stream of Arabic words: “Let’s not heap!”

          Linguists were asked to determine whose emphasis sounds on the record: Chechen, Dagestan, Tatars of the Volga or Crimea? The answer was unequivocal - there is a 95 percent chance that the Crimean gave the command.

          1. Evrepid
            Evrepid 25 September 2013 19: 32 New
            +1
            In a video with a head cut off, a Ukrainian priest speaks to a Catholic priest. Very soft accent, this pronunciation can not be confused.
        3. Rif
          Rif 25 September 2013 11: 37 New
          +8
          "soak on arrival without a trial and investigation !!!!" - it is better to soak them there in Syria, why wait for the "arrival", we must remember the experience of Sudoplatov.
        4. Evrepid
          Evrepid 25 September 2013 19: 24 New
          +2
          When they killed in 1917-1925, solid Russian speech without a Caucasian accent was heard throughout the Russian Empire.
          I hope you will not deny this fact from history?
          Do you count the millions killed yourself or what?
          Something you are too aggressive!
    4. FIRE
      FIRE 25 September 2013 10: 11 New
      +7
      Quote: GreatRussia
      How many Russians participate in the battles against the troops of Assad, and what will Russia do with them?

      And what do terrorists usually do


      Amnesty and take to the police?

    5. roma2
      roma2 25 September 2013 15: 26 New
      0
      Terrorist and mercenary are not the same thing. Such a profession as "mercenary" has existed for more than one hundred years.
      And it is not clear why PMC mercenaries are perceived quite adequately (in Russia they even talk about the creation of PMCs), and they equate loners to terrorists and succumb to persecution ??
      If a mercenary does not commit war crimes, then I don’t understand what to judge him for ??? It’s just a tool in the hands of politicians, you don’t judge the gun from which they killed the man ?? He makes a living with what he can do. And it was not his fault that the country that trained him to kill could not provide a decent life.
    6. Gooch v. 2
      Gooch v. 2 25 September 2013 16: 29 New
      -4
      Quote: GreatRussia
      And what do they usually do with terrorists, in this case international?

      Only instead of the terrorists, for some reason, the Kursk crew "soaked in", there is no crew, and the terrorists are still there. Paradox.
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 25 September 2013 08: 11 New
    +6
    At the beginning of the summer of 2013, FSB director Vladimir Bortnikov announced that there were about two hundred Russians among the militants in Syria.


    Judge for international terrorism. And not any concessions. Then all this cf. will float elsewhere, perhaps again in Russia. And it’s better to shoot.
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 25 September 2013 08: 31 New
      +2
      In this case, we can remember if there would be a person, but there will be an article.
    2. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 25 September 2013 10: 48 New
      +2
      Syrians need to throw more ammunition, otherwise suddenly there will not be enough rounds of ammunition to kill all the bandits.
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 25 September 2013 11: 00 New
        -7
        Quote: nov_tech.vrn
        Syrians need to plant more ammunition,



        so then all because of the slander of the Asad troops of beats .... hi
        1. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 25 September 2013 14: 25 New
          +2
          [quote = smersh70] [quote = nov_tech.vrn] Syrians need to throw more ammunition, [/ quote]


          so then all because of the slander of the Asad troops of beats .... hi

          Vurgun, what did Assad not please you? Or are you like that woman-yaga who is always against? It doesn't matter against what but against, yes?
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 25 September 2013 16: 11 New
            -2
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            Vurgun, what Assad did not please you


            Hi!!!! without me in articles about Syria it will be like at congresses of the CPSU laughing
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            It doesn't matter against what but against, yes?

            I have already spoken out about this .. Asadov’s family led the country to such a situation ... father - took the lead by coup ... in 1883 he cut all the Syrian Communists .. by the way, many here are connected with the USSR and are patriotic and Communistically minded comrades !!!! so why don’t you condemn Assad for this (I mean the older one), he destroyed your comrades in building communism in the world !!
            It was at the beginning of the Arab wave that Assad had a great opportunity to carry out reforms, to remain in power ... having stability in the country, special services ... a loyal army ... but he did not go for it, but embarked on the path of confrontation ... and he the head of state is responsible for what is happening in the country ....
            Now--
            1. Babon
              Babon 25 September 2013 16: 51 New
              0
              Yes, everything is correct, I want to know objective information on Syria. Finding out even what you don’t like, if unpleasant things are passed by your ears, this will not change the situation.
            2. Djozz
              Djozz 25 September 2013 17: 55 New
              +3
              Yes, he is a son of a bitch, but he is our son of a bitch! We have military-political interests there, pragmatism rules in politics and there is no place for sentiment.
            3. Sandov
              Sandov 26 September 2013 09: 25 New
              +3
              Smersh
              Assad is a man deserving of enormous respect for his hard work of cleansing the country of rats. God help him and Russia will help.
          2. Gooch v. 2
            Gooch v. 2 25 September 2013 16: 35 New
            +1
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            Urgun, what did Assad not please you? Or are you like that woman-yaga who is always against? Not well

            And what should it suit? Assad is Ramzan Dyrov of the Syrian Pouring, having a feast during the plague, the Opposition in Syria is motley, there are real fighters for democratic values ​​and there are frank thugs, they usually show thugs on TV, because fighters for a really just cause are uninteresting, the rating will not be, and the people are pretty, watch how some kind of demented fanatic cuts Bosko, eats hearts and urinates on the corpses of enemies, this is hardcore, this is people
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 25 September 2013 21: 31 New
              -2
              Quote: Gooch v.2
              And what should he suit



              OOO !!!!!!! what kind of people! YOU are so lacking here !!! Respect and Respect !!! drinks
            2. Sandov
              Sandov 26 September 2013 09: 28 New
              +1
              Gooch v. 2
              I doubt that the opposition is adequate there. All rats are on one face. Assad respect and respect, watering nits in sonirti, well done.
              1. Gooch v. 2
                Gooch v. 2 26 September 2013 12: 35 New
                0
                Quote: Sandov
                Gooch v. 2
                I doubt that the opposition is adequate there. All rats are on one face. Assad respect and respect, watering nits in sonirti, well done.

                By all accounts, you can also doubt the adequacy of the behavior of government troops, or do you think that Assad is white and fluffy? And in his army are purely gentlemen of noble blood?
                1. Sandov
                  Sandov 26 September 2013 13: 28 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Gooch v.2
                  By all accounts, you can also doubt the adequacy of the behavior of government troops, or do you think that Assad is white and fluffy? And in his army are purely gentlemen of noble blood?


                  As for the gentlemen, I do not affirm, but to protect the Motherland from rats is sacred.
                  1. Rusich51
                    Rusich51 28 September 2013 08: 44 New
                    0
                    Angels with amers - yeltmen? These killers are comparable to Wahhabi rats.
          3. alone
            alone 25 September 2013 21: 08 New
            +2
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            Vurgun, what did Assad not please you? Or are you like that woman-yaga who is always against? It doesn't matter against what but against, yes?


            Greetings to Ruslan! I hope you won’t accuse me of sympathy for the militants?)) Assad is to blame for the fact that he lost the thread of control of the country and the army. See these bearded men? They began to arrive there in the summer of 2012. maybe a couple of months earlier. he had a whole year to restore order. the order was not put in place. Moreover, the demonstrations turned into street battles. And the militants began to arrive in Syria when there were already whole areas of bridgeheads where there were no Assad forces. Some forum users sometimes surprise me when they write about the valiant Syrian army. Look at the militants armament. Especially heavy weapons. these are all from the Syrian arsenals.
            I don’t understand how the "valiant army" can leave so many things and leave? I only have one thought. At least half of the army does not want to fight. Such a massive abandonment of means of introducing war can only be called so. It is customary here that everyone speaks only about what monstrous crimes are committed by militants. yes, I do not argue and also condemn the actions of these non-humans. but believe me, the forces of al-Assad and his allies are nothing better than the militants. in Syria, there is a mutual mock-up of "not their own." You know, as a Muslim, I know the Muslim world better than many of those present. .dam a hand on the cutoff. the Sunnis who are in power do not count. it is about ordinary people. why does Assad need Hezbollah and the Iranian corps if the entire population of Syria is for him? Have you ever heard of any actions of the local population in the territories occupied by militants? I personally have not heard
            for me the most important thing is truth. bitter truth. it is better than a sweet lie. and no one and nothing can change my opinion in this regard.
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 25 September 2013 23: 20 New
              +2
              ) Assad is to blame primarily for the fact that he lost control of the country and the army. See these bearded men? They began to arrive there in the summer of 2012. maybe a couple of months earlier. he had a whole year to restore order. the order was not put in place.


              Weighted analysis! Assad dragged on with reforms. Many men of military age are hanging in the rear. This is one of the external signs of corruption.
  3. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 25 September 2013 08: 16 New
    12
    Yeah scum from all over the world in Syria gathered .. These are no longer people only destroy such mad dogs!
  4. domokl
    domokl 25 September 2013 08: 18 New
    +7
    Great article. Not on writing, but on the topic raised! Alexei hammer!
    Indeed, now it is possible to legally prove participation in the war, but you cannot call a mercenary ... It is urgent to make changes to the Criminal Code.
    But the problem is how to correlate the right rebels and the wrong ones? fellow Probably you just need to forget about any options. He fought as a mercenary, no matter for whom, to prison.
    1. a52333
      a52333 25 September 2013 08: 38 New
      +1
      You yourself raised an interesting question
      a vile question arises from me-But what about the names of our citizens who fought in Serbia? More precisely, in Yugoslavia? Or Transnistria?
      1. domokl
        domokl 25 September 2013 08: 45 New
        +5
        Quote: a52333
        You yourself raised an interesting question

        I understand that the majority will be for the immediate destruction of those who are now fighting against Assad. Emotionally, I am for it. But I do not see a legal way out of this situation. There are Russian mercenaries, they are not only in Syria, but also in Africa.
        And then, how to correlate mercenary and attitude to the events of the Russian government? We support the rebels (in the Syrian version of the bandits), mercenaries well done. Do not support the criminals?
        Here really thought should be seriously included ... winked
        1. matross
          matross 25 September 2013 08: 59 New
          +3
          Quote: domokl
          I do not see a legal way out of this situation.

          If Assad wins, they can be transferred to the Syrian side with very formal participation of Russian consular posts. If he does not win, only in the toilet and water it!
    2. Andrey from Tver
      Andrey from Tver 25 September 2013 10: 31 New
      +4
      Quote: domokl
      But the problem is how to correlate the right rebels and the wrong ones?

      Logically, there can only be insurgents, on the other hand, those against whom these insurgents are fighting.
      Quote: domokl
      He fought as a mercenary, no matter for whom, to prison.

      It is possible to punish a mercenary for participation in an armed conflict if he received a reward for this. But, participating in the database, most likely, this mercenary will commit other crimes, for example, murder, ill-treatment of prisoners of war and civilians, looting of property in the occupied territory, torture, etc.
      So if the mercenary personally participated in the conflict, then there is something to condemn for him besides the mentioned article.
    3. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 25 September 2013 10: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: domokl
      You can legally prove participation in the war, but you cannot call a mercenary ..

      Firstly ... officially there is NO WAR in SYRIA! Unless, the unfinished war with Israel for almost 40 years ... But Israel does not take part in hostilities ... There is a generally accepted concept - the terrorist movement! And there is no need to prove the fact of mercenary ... take an article on terrorism - and there are no barriers to criminal prosecution!
    4. Vidok
      Vidok 25 September 2013 11: 10 New
      +2
      who fought in third countries on the side of forces not supported by the Russian authorities.

      for these, one article, and for others, another ...
    5. Sinbad
      Sinbad 25 September 2013 13: 20 New
      +1
      The answer to this question was given in the USSR in the 30s of the last century. Some were internationalist warriors, while others were terrorists (fascists, etc.).
    6. alone
      alone 25 September 2013 21: 15 New
      0
      Mercenaries are people who fight for one of the warring parties for a fee. bearded men cannot be called mercenaries. they are not mercenaries. militants are religious fanatics who blindly believe their ideas. You cannot force one mercenary to get into an automobile with explosives for any reason to blow up a roadblock. This is absurd, but the fanatics go for it, because that they believe that they will go to paradise. although everyone knows that suicides in all single God religions are considered direct clients of hell.
  5. Revolver
    Revolver 25 September 2013 08: 19 New
    +8
    If the FSB is going to change this situation, then you will have to work by rolling up your sleeves. And if you work, then the simplest option - it is still "was eliminated during the detention"
    Spend the forces and means of the FSB on them? No, let Assad work at least part of the debts, the more they messed up there, let them deal with them there. Here the ropes and laundry soap can be sent to him, even in the form of gratuitous assistance, if there is a shortage of them in Syria. And lampposts, trees, or whatever they use for this, let him provide from his internal reserves.
  6. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 25 September 2013 08: 24 New
    +1
    Need to finalize the laws ...
  7. Trailer
    Trailer 25 September 2013 08: 24 New
    +1
    Um, but how to eliminate it?
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  8. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 25 September 2013 08: 26 New
    +2
    those who were captured identify in a concentration camp and on the restoration of destroyed houses and roads
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 25 September 2013 09: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: Soldier's grandson
      those who were captured identify in a concentration camp and on the restoration of destroyed houses


      Labor - construction is God's work. And those about whom you write are the children of Satan who by definition does not build anything
  9. morpogr
    morpogr 25 September 2013 08: 50 New
    +1
    Only liquidation. Or as an option to provide them with asylum as an opposition on the territory of the United States in guantanomo I think these builders of Sharia democracy should be with those who paid and supported them.
  10. GUSAR
    GUSAR 25 September 2013 08: 59 New
    +2
    Catch these goats on the border, and determine for construction, because BAM is not yet completed, that’s it!
    1. zinander
      zinander 25 September 2013 09: 01 New
      +2
      So also have to feed.
  11. ksandr45
    ksandr45 25 September 2013 08: 59 New
    0
    Well, we all know what to do with them, but then the whole geyroppa will start screaming about human rights.
  12. Denis_Rossiya
    Denis_Rossiya 25 September 2013 09: 04 New
    +1
    If memory serves me right, there was already an article on the Internet about the fact that a US citizen fought in one of the groups against the Syrian government. As a result, he lit up on YouTube, and besides, he added a lot of interesting things to his page. Paradoxical as it may seem, on his return to the United States he was convicted, moreover, under the article which is connected with terrorism. (unfortunately I don’t remember the details until the end). But it doesn’t work for us ....
  13. Denis_Rossiya
    Denis_Rossiya 25 September 2013 09: 04 New
    0
    If memory serves me right, there was already an article on the Internet about the fact that a US citizen fought in one of the groups against the Syrian government. As a result, he lit up on YouTube, and besides, he added a lot of interesting things to his page. Paradoxical as it may seem, on his return to the United States he was convicted, moreover, under the article which is connected with terrorism. (unfortunately I don’t remember the details until the end). But it doesn’t work for us ....
    1. Strashila
      Strashila 25 September 2013 12: 31 New
      0
      not ... not condemned ... released.
  14. Strashila
    Strashila 25 September 2013 09: 05 New
    +1
    And lope there "dead souls" are at war ... who disappeared into Chechen companies ... for which our state paid their relatives through the courts ... how many "political refugees" who have a Russian passport, but live in a boarding house in European countries .. how many "fighters for the faith" from the republics with which we have no borders.
  15. Igarr
    Igarr 25 September 2013 09: 09 New
    +5
    Interestingly, what kind of problem arose ..
    fighting in foreign territories? They are fighting.
    If they fight on the side supported by Russia, honor and praise. Without advertising
    If they are fighting on a side that Russia does not support - a bullet in the forehead. Without advertising.
    Here is Newton’s binom too.
    Is the constitution wrong?
    Well, so to the one who does not rule the Constitution, in the right direction, a bullet to the base of the skull. With advertising.
    And all business.
  16. v.lyamkin
    v.lyamkin 25 September 2013 09: 13 New
    +1
    Probably, these mercenaries should be equated with terrorists (these mercenaries are fighting against the legitimate government of the country), and even there the question of receiving material compensation will obviously not be raised.
  17. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 25 September 2013 09: 14 New
    +2
    Correctly. The Criminal Code must respond to the spite of the day. By the way, domokl is right about other regions and other mercenaries. The law must be equal for all. If Russia needs the efforts of private individuals abroad, this should not be just the default, but the decision of the legal authorities. It is impossible to give free killers in your own country.
  18. Hellriker
    Hellriker 25 September 2013 09: 16 New
    +2
    Mercenaries have no homeland. Where they pay - there is also the Motherland. Who pays - that is right. A kind of prostitution.
  19. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 25 September 2013 09: 16 New
    +1
    By the way, not in the photo, the gunman is brandishing a Koran in translation into Russian by Porokhovoy.
  20. Quiet
    Quiet 25 September 2013 09: 18 New
    +3
    How many Russians participate in the battles against the troops of Assad, and what will Russia do with them?

    Deprive of citizenship and the topic will be closed ... It can be safely stated that there are no Russian citizens among the rebels !!!
  21. marat1000
    marat1000 25 September 2013 09: 20 New
    -1
    Mercenaries need to bury and drink for their rotten souldrinks
  22. pahom54
    pahom54 25 September 2013 09: 22 New
    +1
    The issue is complex and most likely now it is unlikely that it can be resolved by legal means. And the Chechen fighters, having gained and gained combat experience, will again return to the territory of Russia with unkind goals. It can only be solved by the FSB using the methods used by the NKVD in its time: to track down and remove, "erase" them ...
  23. Blad_21617
    Blad_21617 25 September 2013 09: 30 New
    0
    do not confuse Russians and Russians! Now the first includes all who are not lazy and who liked today's authorities and moral and just friends of mutin and malicious French hooligans ...
  24. NC1982
    NC1982 25 September 2013 09: 34 New
    0
    Collect them in one BDK with the marines, let them exercise on the way to Novorossiysk, the sharks would have something to devour ... I think the marines would "talk" with them from the heart)
  25. Betahon
    Betahon 25 September 2013 09: 38 New
    +6
    In fact, the topic is not new ... Our volunteers fought in the States during the Civil War, and in Italy in the ranks of the first rebel revolutionaries, and then the resistance, and in the Boer War, and in Spain in 1937, and in France and .... I'm not talking about Yugoslavia, Abkhazia, North Ossetia, etc.
    Obviously, there is a difference between volunteer volunteers (Spain) in the composition of international brigades fighting against the global threat, for example, fascism and renegade mercenaries from among professional sadists fighting on a material basis on the side of forces considered by the international community as international terrorists and bandits.
    And, most likely, it is this facet that can be discussed and taken into account in the criminal law and the right to apply, including internationally.
    Glory to the Russian soldiers-internationalists!
  26. ReifA
    ReifA 25 September 2013 09: 42 New
    +8
    The best solution is the simplest. Destroy in case of delay, there will be no legal problems. IMHO. Otherwise, they still go to jail (if possible), and there is a ransom / amnesty / temporary "insanity", escape / maintenance of such *** for state money. Do we need it?
  27. King
    King 25 September 2013 09: 47 New
    -2
    Send a landing party to Syria, let them put them there in the ground. tach freaks do not mind.
    1. Airman
      Airman 25 September 2013 09: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: King
      Send a landing party to Syria, let them put them there in the ground. tach freaks do not mind.

      And what are they, they will ask for passports in Syria, Russian means to wet, no - to let go in peace?
      1. Lakkuchu
        Lakkuchu 25 September 2013 11: 27 New
        +4
        Not landing, but as an option for special forces trained to operate in conditions close to the Syrian, I don’t know whether we have such specialists or not, specifically for finding and destroying gangs consisting of immigrants from Russia and the CIS countries. Inhumans of different nationalities are fighting there and they are likely to have conversations in Russian, so good intelligence, cooperation with Syrian intelligence and troops and good conspiracy are important here, specialists should not differ in appearance from Syrians, I think this is not a problem with modern capabilities. Better to destroy them there than here. In no case should they be allowed to return to Russia. Perhaps there are already such our groups there, we still won’t find out about this) The KGB, GRU specialists, as you know, acted around the world and quite successfully.
  28. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 25 September 2013 10: 00 New
    +1
    It is better to introduce a visa regime with Turkey today than tomorrow to be in ruins ...
  29. de bouillon
    de bouillon 25 September 2013 10: 00 New
    +3
    recently, such a Chechen came across

    1. smersh70
      smersh70 25 September 2013 10: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: de Bouillon
      recently, such a Chechen came across



      judging by the hairstyle .. on the stand ... on the manner of talking .... on the clock on the tabs on the hand .... on the love of the French machine .. it seems a fellow emigrant from the Schengen area ...... smile
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 25 September 2013 10: 36 New
        +3
        and there is little from Chechnya because Kadyrov will not approve fawn and relatives will get them, basically all the migrants from the EU are fighting there.
      2. master_rem
        master_rem 25 September 2013 14: 01 New
        +3
        Is it a French machine gun? Does it look like an Austrian "Steyr" bullpup, no?
      3. Babon
        Babon 25 September 2013 16: 38 New
        +2
        In my opinion, it looks more like Steyr AUG.
        1. Srgsoap
          Srgsoap 25 September 2013 16: 59 New
          +3
          You are absolutely right, this is a steyr. Famas is completely different.
  30. Russkiy_Prapor
    Russkiy_Prapor 25 September 2013 10: 33 New
    +2
    359 Article. Mercenary

    [Criminal Code of the Russian Federation] [Chapter 34] [Article 359]
    1. The recruitment, training, financing or other material support of a mercenary, as well as its use in armed conflict or military operations -

    is punished by imprisonment for the term from four up to eight years with restriction of freedom for up to two years or without it.

    2. The same acts committed by a person using his official position or in relation to a minor -

    shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of seven to fifteen years with a fine of up to five hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to three years, or without it and with restriction of freedom for a term of one to two years, or without it .

    3. The participation of a mercenary in armed conflict or hostilities -

    shall be punished by imprisonment for a term of three to seven years with restriction of freedom for a term of up to one year, or without it.

    Note. A mercenary is a person who is acting for the purpose of receiving material remuneration and who is not a citizen of a state participating in an armed conflict or military actions, who does not reside permanently on its territory, and who is not a person who is assigned to perform official duties.
  31. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 25 September 2013 10: 35 New
    +2
    Conclude an agreement with Syria on the extradition of war criminals, and take them there without depriving them of citizenship, let them gather evidence on the spot and judge them, and after serving their sentence in Syria, deport them to the Russian Federation and judge for mercenarism here based on the evidence gathered from the Syrian side. That's all the solution to the problem
  32. dc120mm
    dc120mm 25 September 2013 10: 40 New
    +2
    Alexei Volodin

    Thanks again for the interesting stats.
  33. Glory333
    Glory333 25 September 2013 10: 41 New
    +1
    It was reported that Crimean Tatars from 50 to 100 are naturally fighting in Syria, naturally on the side of international terrorists.
    1. Corrint_25
      Corrint_25 25 September 2013 10: 58 New
      +7
      As already mentioned above there is fighting rabble from around the world. And every herd has a useless sheep.
      1. Glory333
        Glory333 25 September 2013 22: 46 New
        +1
        Talking lousy sheep? And why, then, the Majlis — in fact, the entire Crimean Tatar people supported the Kosovo terrorists?
  34. Petrol
    Petrol 25 September 2013 10: 52 New
    0
    and what to do with them ??? I’ll kiss the Kremlin’s leaders on a lead from article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation .... for me ... so it’s just to calmly shoot them without hoping for power and covering each other so that they don’t take them like Kvachkov ... you have in the fairy tale * (russ_lan and lud_mila) information that the head (Moscow) lives separately from the body
    * tale_ka - a tale, I think, of course, the soul is out of date. like a tale of the spirit ...
  35. Hulk
    Hulk 25 September 2013 11: 09 New
    -1
    Quote: tilovaykrisa
    Conclude an agreement with Syria on the extradition of war criminals, and take them there without depriving them of citizenship, let them gather evidence on the spot and judge them, and after serving their sentence in Syria, deport them to the Russian Federation and judge for mercenarism here based on the evidence gathered from the Syrian side. That's all the solution to the problem


    This is not a solution to the problem, but its knowledge. Citizens of the Russian Federation who have committed a crime on the territory of a foreign state are not subject to extradition to this state.

    This rule is enshrined in Part 1 of Art. 13 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation: "Citizens of the Russian Federation who have committed a crime on the territory of a foreign state are not subject to extradition to this state."
    The situation, although in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, is essentially fundamental, constitutional.
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 26 September 2013 19: 21 New
      0
      We read kamenty carefully and only then write something so as not to look stupid from the outside Conclude an extradition war criminals agreement with Syria Learn and the rule of law, not spelled out in the constitution, can mean it can be changed, corrected, supplemented, how fundamental it is, what kind of nonsense.
  36. Agent 008
    Agent 008 25 September 2013 11: 16 New
    +1
    Nevertheless, I think that these renegades should be deprived of Russian Federation Citizenship, the constitution should not apply to them ... Let HOMES around the world, they with their beards are very similar to HOMES ...
  37. VadimSt
    VadimSt 25 September 2013 11: 26 New
    +1
    I think that we, the citizens of Ukraine, including A. Volodin, need to take care of the problems of Ukrainian mercenaries in Syria and raise this issue in the Ukrainian media, and waving towards a neighbor is always easier and safer.
    1. Volodin
      25 September 2013 12: 48 New
      +4
      Vadim, frankly, did not understand your comment at all.
      Quote: VadimSt
      citizens of Ukraine, including A. Volodin
      ... Whoa! I was "handed" a Ukrainian passport. What a news!
      1. VadimSt
        VadimSt 25 September 2013 15: 49 New
        0
        Sorry ......... and a thousand apologies Alexey! It happens - a long-standing aggravated attitude towards one of our journalist worked, the association worked on harmony.
        Once again, please excuse me!
        1. Volodin
          25 September 2013 16: 13 New
          +3
          Nothing wrong. it happens smile
  38. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 25 September 2013 12: 08 New
    -1
    All mercenaries fighting against the army of the state, regardless of nationality and state of affairs - in the Syrian (in this case) courts!
  39. Wii
    Wii 25 September 2013 12: 16 New
    0
    And these same “Russians”, a couple of days ago, ran in the center of St. Petersburg with shouts of Allah Akbar. Shooting people from traumatism.
  40. saag
    saag 25 September 2013 12: 19 New
    -1
    I think that, like chemical weapons, these very "volunteers" must be disposed of on the spot, can the FSB return to the practice of "ex"?
  41. albanech
    albanech 25 September 2013 12: 19 New
    +2
    Comrades! Are they fighting there by order? Most likely not - for the money, I will gain! Whoever fights there in Syria - there are two of ours and not ours: a terrorist - an enemy - a traitor, a mercenary - it's not ours! Ours are those who are fighting on the orders of the Defense Ministry, the FSB SVR! If there are among them Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians according to the passport, this does not mean that they are ours! And do not breed demagoguery! ALL THOSE WHO IN SYRIA ARE NOT BY ORDER - NOT OURS! DESTROY ALL CITIZENSHIP!
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 25 September 2013 21: 34 New
      -2
      Quote: albanech
      DESTROY ALL CITIZENSHIP!


      and it will help laughing someone said yesterday. Do not pour Albanian at night ... drinks
  42. dzvero
    dzvero 25 September 2013 13: 13 New
    0
    The problem of mercenarism did not arise today or yesterday. Ruskiy_Prapor cited the modern wording of the mercenary, but the rest of the mercenary aspects are not reflected in this wording.
    Essentially, this article raises the question of how to deal with citizens of a country who fought in another country as part of one of the parties. In my opinion, the solution should be like this - one of the parties is recognized as a union and those who fought against, in fact, fought against their homeland. In this case, not only the article on mercenary action, but also the article on treason against the motherland should be applied to such persons.
    As for extradition - no one bothers to judge mercenaries from among their citizens for war crimes based on evidence presented by a friendly country.
  43. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 25 September 2013 13: 42 New
    0
    <<< In general, wherever you go, everywhere there is a wedge in relation to these potential "returnees" It turns out that such mercenaries are simply unattainable for the Russian justice. >>>
    Whether you like it or not, it turns out that our legislation, written to please the West by liberal-humanists, plays into the hands of all scum, who either receive ridiculous terms of punishment for their crimes, or in general, it turns out, cannot be brought to justice, while , a stumbled ordinary person, figuratively speaking, "for a bag of privatized potatoes" gets FULL! Is it any wonder that in Russia there is so much all kinds of criminal, nationalist, religious-extremist crap and everyone feels free and fears no one or anything! It's time to bring legislation into line with Russian, not gay-European realities, without looking back at the West, which, of course, will immediately start yelling to the whole world about the violation of democracy in Russia!
  44. Jober
    Jober 25 September 2013 13: 54 New
    +1
    1. Conclude an agreement on mutual extradition of criminals with Syria. 2. Provide Syria with a list of identified FSB bearded men. 3. At Syria’s request, return them to the crime scene for trial. This is just a canvas.
  45. individual
    individual 25 September 2013 13: 54 New
    0
    Laws are written by the legislator.
    In order for the law to correspond to reality, it is necessary to amend the documents on the fight against terrorism and bando-tourism.
    This is if you follow the letter of the law.
    And if in essence, then political will is needed and the special services apparatus will be engaged in business, and not business protection.
  46. 7ydmco
    7ydmco 25 September 2013 14: 06 New
    0
    Quote: domokl
    Here ... And in between, the terrorists are fighting not only against, but also for Assad


    What kind of terrorists is Assad?
    1. alone
      alone 25 September 2013 21: 18 New
      +1
      Is Hezbollah UN peacekeepers?))
      1. Glory333
        Glory333 25 September 2013 22: 48 New
        0
        Hezbollah, the patriotic Lebanese party such as the LDPR)
  47. Ihrek
    Ihrek 25 September 2013 14: 10 New
    +1
    They fight for money and not for idea. The idea is among Amers, Jews, Saudis and Qatari. The idea of ​​one of them is ultimately also money. I mean Qatar, which wants to lay a gas pipe to Europe through Syria, against which the current leadership of Syria is against.
    1. alone
      alone 25 September 2013 21: 20 New
      0
      Jamal, what do you think for the money you can blow yourself up with a ton of TNT in some sort of base7 and what is the benefit to the person who does it for the money?
  48. de bouillon
    de bouillon 25 September 2013 14: 15 New
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    Quote: master_rem
    Is it a French machine gun? Does it look like an Austrian "Steyr" bullpup, no?


    Yes it's an Austrian assault hi rifle

    Quote: smersh70
    Quote: de bouillon
    recently, such a Chechen came across


    BUT but !! who followed the links to YouTube that well done wink

    why?? Well, for example, the video channel of this video Shamcenter

    click on it and see there in the information field links to the site http://www.shamcenter.org/ click and transfer us to the site, select Russian and here we go to the site of the SHAMcenter, IP is defined as Russian, it seems to me that it could not do without the Turks soldier



    judging by the hairstyle .. on the stand ... on the manner of talking .... on the clock on the tabs on the hand .... on the love of the French machine .. it seems a fellow emigrant from the Schengen area ...... smile
  49. Agent 008
    Agent 008 25 September 2013 14: 18 New
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    Quote: Wii
    And these same “Russians”, a couple of days ago, ran in the center of St. Petersburg with shouts of Allah Akbar. Shooting people from traumatism.

    I think these hooligans "Allahu Akbar" screamed out of fear as they cowardly ran away from the scene. If they were warriors, I would still understand, but when every TRUMP shouts ...
  50. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 25 September 2013 14: 37 New
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    and what will Russia do with them?

    The recipe is famous.