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Serbia: instead of the EU - in the Customs Union?

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Mass media note that more and more votes are being distributed in Serbia in favor of joining the country instead of the European Union into the Customs Union, as well as in the CSTO. This is supported by the Russian Party, the Doors movement and the Democratic Party of Serbia. At a recent congress of Russian-Serbian friendship, some Serb party members expressed the need to abandon the EU integration course.




As the "Voice of Russia", with a proposal to join the CU, and then to the CSTO made several Serb parties. Slobodan Nikolic, Chairman of the “Russian Party in Serbia”, explained why his party favors cooperation with the Customs Union and why it does not “dream” of Serbia joining the EU.

“We stand for economic and, most importantly, military alliance. Three or four days ago, information appeared that Vladimir Putin said that after his visit to Serbia in December, he would offer to strengthen economic and military cooperation between our countries. ”


According to Comrade Nikolic, “the European Union is completely gone.” For this reason, “he is not interested in Serbia,” and Serbia is “not needed”. And then there's the Kosovo question. The press wrote that representatives of the EU, Nikolic said, spoke about the possibility of new ultimatums.

“We believe that we need cooperation with Russia, that the Russian market is interesting for us and that the West needs us only as a cheap labor force. Serbia is sometimes called “small Russia”, because 70 percent of Serb residents are good to Russians and want a union with Russia. ”


At the same time, it is known that Serbia has signed an association agreement with the European Union. However, Slobodan Nikolic believes, since then there have been changes for the worse.

“... We were promised investments, but they are not coming. The country's debt is already about 29 billion euros. European politicians only want to use our natural resources. The Serbian economy remains low. We consider it as a party to push forward the idea of ​​the Eurasian Union as the salvation of the Serbian people. Russia is a big country, and it stands firmly on its feet. ”


Nikolic also explained that, in addition to his party, Kostunica’s party and the Doors movement are in favor of integration with the Russian Federation.

In the channel reportage "RT" It is noted, among other things, that Serbia and Montenegro today has a free trade zone with the Customs Union. At the congress of Russian-Serbian friendship, Serbian political analysts said that Serbia is the only country that has a very fine policy of avoiding integration with the West, formally trying to join the EU.

It is noted that the Serbian economy depends on large foreign investments.

As for the Serbian government, it unequivocally supports the accession of Serbia to the EU - and not at all formally. History This one has famous roots.

V. Kostunica, head of the Democratic Party of Serbia, negatively evaluated the agreement between Belgrade and Pristina signed in April of 2013. His words are quoted IA "REX", referring to the Serbian Beta news agency: The EU. This power is the killer of the state because it destroyed the Serbian state institutions in Kosovo. ”

According to Kostunica, neither NATO aggression, nor Western states could bring the Serbs as much evil as the Serbian authorities cause their own people today. Having ascertained 19 on April that Vucic and Dacic in Brussels "came out against Serbia and their people," V. Kostunica called for "to begin by peaceful means to resist open and shameless violence against Serbia."

You should know that the initialing of the agreement in April was necessary for Belgrade precisely for the subsequent accession of the country to the EU. The Serbian leadership for some reason stubbornly believes that in a country, should it be in the “friendly” ranks of the European Union, both loans, financial assistance, and foreign investments will immediately collapse. And thanks to all this, something like a Serbian economic miracle will happen. Very strange confidence!

For the authorities of Serbia, neither Greece, nor Cyprus, nor Italy with Spain are not examples of what the “single currency” can do with the country and the general crisis, in the full sense of the word, is limitless. The absurd government belief in the healing economic power of the EU pushes the Serbs, including Kosovo, to the idea that the matter is unclean.

“Our political elite has grown together with the Brussels and Washington establishment,” quotes Olga Churakova ("Century") the words of the Belgrade political scientist and publicist Slobodan Antonych. - It does not allow itself to even think about some kind of alternative. Any serious state, when it comes to important things, develops the so-called "Plan B". And ours have only one thing in mind - the European Union or death. ”

The aforementioned Serbian political analyst explains: “It is regrettable that public opinion in Serbia forms foreign capital. And the fact that we are so corrupt that we do not even notice it. ” He hints at the fact that the owners of the main media in Serbia are large Western media companies, and the most influential NGOs are financed from foreign funds.

At the end of June 2013, on "BBC" A photo appeared with a caption: “The EU is ready to embrace Serbia. Serbian Prime Minister Ivica Dacic (face) and European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso (back). ” The text of the relevant note refers to the fact that the leaders of the EU countries decided in the coming months to begin negotiations with Serbia, whose application for EU membership was laid on cloth due to Kosovo disputes. (After the April agreements, let us add, from which the West was so happy, the disputes at the official level quickly disappear).

The outcome of the June EU summit in Brussels suggests that the plan for negotiations with Serbia will be approved by the European Council by January 2014. This was stated by the chairman of the European Council, Herman Van Rompuy. It is clear that the European Union is immediately ready to begin negotiations on Euro-Association with Kosovo. The status of an associate member will give the edge privileges in relations with the EU and will be a step towards full membership in the European Union. (The EU bureaucracy already calls Kosovo a “country”).

The process of preparing Serbia for negotiations is very active.

13 September 2013 Lithuanian Foreign Minister Linas Linkiavicius met in Vilnius with Serbia’s main negotiator for accession to the European Union, Tanya Mishevich, reports IA "REGNUM" with reference to the press service of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Lithuania.

Linkyavicius noted that during its presidency of the EU Council, Lithuania will seek to ensure that Serbia is properly prepared for EU accession negotiations.

Misevich, in her turn, informed Linkevicius about Serbia’s preparations for the negotiations. She told that negotiating groups are being formed. According to her, progress in the dialogue between Belgrade and Pristina, in reforms in the field of the rule of law, in the fight against corruption and other areas is enough to start negotiations.

Negotiations are expected to start even before the end of 2013.

Mr. Linkiavicius welcomed the agreement reached between Belgrade and Pristina on energy and telecommunications on September 8. The Minister added that it is necessary to ensure the further implementation of all agreements. The achieved results, according to Lynkevicius, allow us to hope that Serbia and Kosovo will successfully continue the implementation of the agreements. A positive assessment of the achievements is important for the start of Serbia’s EU accession negotiations.

Thus, the luring of Serbia into the EU has long been the Western gingerbread with which the so-called Kosovo issue (representing a whip) was resolved in April 2013.

Well, what about the opinion of the people, you ask?

According to the latest polls of various organizations, Serbia’s accession to the EU is supported by approximately half of the population - from 42% to 53%. Many Serbs are counting on the emergence of new jobs and the revival of the economy through the infusion of European money and downright magical changes in the Serbian cons of the pros. Neither Cyprus, nor Greece, nor other crisis states of Europe for some reason are taken into account. Probably, people want to believe in the best, and the desire for change and reform in power is alive just as the reformist itch among other Russian ministers does not subside. And if you look through, read news about negotiations with the EU and about the policy of the current Serbian government, it will become clear: everything speaks about the consistent rapprochement of Belgrade with Brussels.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 25 September 2013 08: 02
    32
    How similar it is to the situation with Ukraine, like two drops ...
    1. vadimus
      vadimus 25 September 2013 08: 10
      24
      Welcome! It remains only to add.
      1. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 25 September 2013 13: 30
        -1
        Quote: vadimus
        Welcome! It remains only to add.


        Surely "welcome" will be welcome? And, sorry, do not they want to not fuck Serbia in the ass?
      2. Siberian German
        Siberian German 25 September 2013 19: 02
        +1
        the problem is in the distance - far from us there are many borders between us
    2. Canep
      Canep 25 September 2013 08: 12
      21
      If Serbia had a common border with other countries of the CU, it would be wonderful, but I don’t see economic prospects, except politically this is the plus of the CU.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 25 September 2013 08: 16
        28
        Quote: Canep
        If Serbia would have a common border with other countries of the CU, it would be wonderful, but I don’t see economic prospects,

        It doesn’t have yet, but it’s only for now that it will be unknown in five years hi
      2. Heccrbq .2
        Heccrbq .2 25 September 2013 08: 25
        28
        Spit on the prospects, the main thing will be with the Slav brothers, and money can be taken from one place, from one republic, which did not bring up a single scientist, musician, poet, only murderers, kidnappers.
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 25 September 2013 09: 18
          -2
          First, take money (and not from this republic, because it is a cordon on the way of Wahhabis) and somewhere (when there’s nothing to treat old people and cancerous) and then spit on prospects!
          1. andruha70
            andruha70 25 September 2013 15: 28
            +6
            who minus the mirage? Justify ... after all, he is talking (about the cordon on the way of the Wahhabis) which is easier and easier to give money, or send your sons and brothers to slaughter? here it is and it ... first, measure, and then remove ... put cons ... for "special steamers" I explain, sometimes, the convolutions in your cranium, you need to force to act, according to their intended purpose ... tongue
      3. domokl
        domokl 25 September 2013 08: 31
        +8
        Quote: Canep
        I do not see economic prospects, except politically this is a plus of the CU.

        Just like the rest. Serbia will join the EU in any case. A small country that does not even claim to be bankrupt is simply forced to play the tune of its nearest neighbors.
      4. Andrey57
        Andrey57 25 September 2013 09: 19
        18
        Serbia through Montenegro has access to the Adriatic Sea, in addition, through the Danube it has access to the Black Sea, so there are no particular problems in terms of transport, then, the railway has not been canceled yet, so there would be a desire to cooperate, and the field of activity in the vehicle there is a vast.
      5. Garrin
        Garrin 25 September 2013 10: 41
        14
        Quote: Canep
        If Serbia had a common border with other countries of the CU, it would be wonderful, but I don’t see economic prospects, except politically this is the plus of the CU.

        Kaliningrad region also does not have. So what?
      6. 31231
        31231 25 September 2013 13: 13
        11
        By sea, impose traffic on goods for long. Plus, they can organize a resort business in Turkey more interesting.
        1. Doctorleg
          Doctorleg 25 September 2013 23: 52
          -1
          Well, they don’t have a sea. With the resort business strained. Montenegro sea
          1. 31231
            31231 26 September 2013 07: 13
            0
            And what is not their union with Montenegro ?!
      7. F117
        F117 26 September 2013 20: 05
        0
        so Montenegro is thinking about the CU, and with it there is the possibility of maritime trade. And already through Montenegro there will be access to Serbia.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 September 2013 08: 16
      29
      ... We were promised investments, but they do not come.
      Ukraine is also promised investment laughing
      1. domokl
        domokl 25 September 2013 08: 33
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Ukraine is also promised investment laughing

        The West needs Ukraine as a way to weaken Russia. Serbia is simply some kind of country there, such as Lithuania or Latvia. Hello Sasha!
        1. Andrey57
          Andrey57 25 September 2013 09: 28
          +9
          Well, yes - well, yes, if Yugoslavia, and now Serbia, were the "ipa of Lithuania", the guys from Martrasia would not tear up their ass so that these Slavs would be torn into pieces and taken to different "vegetable gardens of independent countries", and also The Germans remember very well that they did not manage to capture many areas of Serbia and Montenegro in the Great Patriotic War, when the Slavs in the Balkans were united, except of course the Croats - these Judas fought not on the side of the Germans, diligently filling buckets with their eyes of the killed Serbs, the Croatian Ustasha had such a peculiar reporting to their masters.
        2. Flooding
          Flooding 25 September 2013 11: 50
          +3
          Quote: domokl
          The West needs Ukraine as a way to weaken Russia. Serbia is simply some kind of country there, such as Lithuania or Latvia.

          Unlike "some kind of country like Lithuania", Serbia has a rich history.
          And in modern times, it has always been at the forefront of Russia's European interests.
          And it would be a great stupidity to assign it the role of a backyard "like Lithuania".
          1. APOCALIPTIC
            APOCALIPTIC 25 September 2013 22: 18
            -1
            well, it’ll cover the history of Lithuania, you are apologizing for nonsense, study history and confuse Lithuania with Latvia
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 26 September 2013 10: 31
              -1
              Quote: APOCALIPTIC
              well, it’ll cover the history of Lithuania, you are apologizing for nonsense, study history and confuse Lithuania with Latvia

              I think that Belarus has a much greater relationship to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania than Lithuania itself.
      2. pri3rak
        pri3rak 25 September 2013 09: 18
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Ukraine is also promised investment


        But unlike Ukraine, Serbs
        Recall that at the moment, Serbia and Montenegro already have a free trade zone with the Customs Union. The entry of these countries into the Customs Union seems real from the point of view of Russian economists and politicians. The main thing is that these countries themselves want this.
        http://telegrafist.org/2013/09/18/87603/
      3. Ascetic
        Ascetic 25 September 2013 11: 10
        12
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Ukraine is also promised investment


        If happiness has not yet come, then it is huge and goes in small steps laughing
        Or the promised three years are waiting
      4. 755962
        755962 25 September 2013 18: 30
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Ukraine is also promised investment

        And everyone knows the formula for such investments)))
    4. Quiet
      Quiet 25 September 2013 09: 09
      0
      How similar it is to the situation with Ukraine, like two drops ...

      This is one of the last calls for Yanukovych before joining the EU !!!
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 25 September 2013 09: 21
        14
        Quote: Quiet
        This is one of the last calls for Yanukovych before joining the EU !!!

        What a bell !? He now feels "on top"! am HOW PRAISE IT !!!!
        "Yanukovych’s statement on Ukraine’s readiness to help destroy chemical weapons in Syria is called sensational
        http://www.segodnya.ua/politics/pnews/Sammit-v-YAlte-sensaciya-ot-YAnukovicha-i-
        ne-reshayushchiy-vopros-Timoshenko-461732.html
        Yanukovych with an initiative on Syria makes a breakthrough in the United States:
        At the Yalta summit, Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych said that Ukraine was offering the world community technical assistance to destroy chemical weapons in Syria.
        Yanukovych from the UN session will bring a photo with Obama
        xxxxxx
        This is called "Where is Russia with Putin?"
        1. Orel
          Orel 25 September 2013 09: 39
          +2
          According to recent surveys of various organizations, approximately half of the inhabitants, from 42% to 53%, support Serbia’s accession to the EU.


          That says it all. They want in the EU. Let them go. But there will be no turning back. Nobody will then take under their wing a subsidized country with a destroyed industry and the absence of any prospect. So good luck to you. After returning to the EU after joining the EU, do not count on returning. Nobody will need it.
          1. bogdan
            bogdan 25 September 2013 16: 27
            +3
            According to Kostunica, neither the aggression of NATO, nor the Western states could bring the Serbs as much evil as the Serbian authorities are doing today to their own people.

            One-to-one about Ukraine, you can say so.
    5. Sandov
      Sandov 26 September 2013 09: 39
      0
      Kosovo field for the Serbs is Kulikovo field for the Russians.
      His loss will not compensate NATO's embrace.
  2. Gennady1973
    Gennady1973 25 September 2013 08: 15
    13
    If this happens to us, it will definitely not get worse in the economy, either militarily or politically. Serbia still in vain asked for EBN and had to be accepted (this is my personal opinion) We are persuading Ukraine, but here we can say it begs itself.
  3. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 25 September 2013 08: 29
    17
    Serbs have long been asking to go to Russia. Why not take it! From a political and military point of view, that would be a great move! I can imagine the screams "The Russians have captured the center of Europe !!))))
    1. Essenger
      Essenger 25 September 2013 08: 40
      18 th
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I can imagine the screams "The Russians have taken over the center of Europe!


      Serbia is the backyard of Europe, what other center? wink
      1. Andrey57
        Andrey57 25 September 2013 09: 36
        14
        Serbia is not the backyard of Europe, the Balkans in general is one big time bomb under the ass of Europe, a lot of wars started from there. It was not for nothing that Churchill called the Balkans the "soft underbelly of Europe." If this territory did not mean anything for NATO and mattresses, they would not have been cut with such frenzy for the destruction of Yugoslavia, and now Serbia. hi
        1. Essenger
          Essenger 25 September 2013 10: 25
          0
          Quote: Andrey57
          The Balkans in general is one big time bomb under the ass of Europe,


          Well, the Americans put their governor there. Albanians soon there are all Uzbeks)))
      2. Flooding
        Flooding 25 September 2013 11: 51
        +5
        Quote: Essenger
        Serbia is the backyard of Europe, what other center?

        Then Greece or Romania is the other world of Europe?
      3. Deniska
        Deniska 25 September 2013 12: 41
        +4
        I would not say that she really is on the outskirts :))
    2. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 25 September 2013 09: 50
      -9
      This is a good thing, but this is another parasite on the neck. And so we feed South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
      1. Garrin
        Garrin 25 September 2013 10: 44
        +3
        Quote: v.lyamkin
        This is a good thing, but this is another parasite on the neck.

        Is it really about money?
        1. Doctorleg
          Doctorleg 25 September 2013 23: 59
          +1
          Quote: Garrin
          Quote: v.lyamkin
          This is a good thing, but this is another parasite on the neck.

          Is it really about money?

          Do you want to help them give back 26 billion?
      2. 31231
        31231 25 September 2013 13: 22
        +7
        And what a freeloader then ?! Tourist business, medicines, agriculture, and the South Stream through them can be thrown.
    3. Deniska
      Deniska 25 September 2013 12: 42
      +3
      Yes, if you put the base there ... Oh, Geyropa will shout))
  4. Ivan79
    Ivan79 25 September 2013 08: 56
    12
    Serbs are our brothers. Once we left them in trouble. Therefore, I wish both countries a smaller statement, more concrete steps towards each other.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 25 September 2013 09: 13
      10
      Quote: Ivan79
      Once we left them in trouble

      Teach history, and do not rush with beautiful phrases.
      Russia began World War I after the ultimatum of the Austrians to Serbs and lost 1 million people in this and the subsequent civil war.
      Do you want to kill all the Russians for the Serbs?
      ps There is a real problem at hand, Little Russians brains are being turned into Ukrainians, and have the Serbs bothered you so much?
      1. Civil
        Civil 25 September 2013 10: 32
        +6
        Yanukovych a rare infection was
        1. Gomunkul
          Gomunkul 25 September 2013 11: 54
          +1
          Yanukovych a rare infection was
          Or maybe a Cossack mishandled? wink
      2. Flooding
        Flooding 25 September 2013 11: 53
        +4
        Quote: ATATA
        Russia began World War I after the ultimatum of the Austrians to Serbs and lost 1 million people in this and the subsequent civil war.

        So it turns out the Serbs are guilty of all the victims?
        Interesting interpretation.
        Quote: ATATA
        There is a real problem at hand, Little Russians brains are being turned into Ukrainians, and have the Serbs bothered you so much?

        And why not show the Ukrainian brothers, using the example of Serbia, what is good and what is bad?
  5. zinander
    zinander 25 September 2013 09: 08
    +1
    You can’t expect anything good from geyropa .. better to us ..
  6. ATATA
    ATATA 25 September 2013 09: 10
    -3
    Why does Russia need Serbia?
    Someone can explain the points?
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 25 September 2013 11: 23
      +4
      Quote: ATATA
      Why does Russia need Serbia?
      Someone can explain the points?


      Serbia has the largest gas storage facility in Gazprom Banat Yard,
      The presence of gas reserves can significantly reduce the risks associated with the execution of contracts. and not be subjected to huge penalties.
      It is not uncommon for Gazprom to find it profitable to buy out a certain volume of gas from a third-party supplier to “maintain” the market in accordance with its interests (for example, to maintain prices at the required level). Having a backup storage facility, you can minimize the risks of gas supplies to Europe through the same Ukraine, for example.
      1. Valery Neonov
        Valery Neonov 25 September 2013 15: 07
        0
        Well, if Serbia joins the CU, the EU has good reasons to "panic." hi
    2. Alew
      Alew 25 September 2013 11: 38
      +3
      Quote: ATATA
      Why does Russia need Serbia?
      Someone can explain the points?

      Russia needs both Serbia and other fraternal countries. For protection from the bestial capitalist west. And if they are not needed, then Russia itself will not be.
      1. Doctorleg
        Doctorleg 26 September 2013 00: 03
        0
        Quote: ALEW
        Quote: ATATA
        Why does Russia need Serbia?
        Someone can explain the points?

        Russia needs both Serbia and other fraternal countries. For protection from the bestial capitalist west. And if they are not needed, then Russia itself will not be.

        And what is not capitalism in Russia ?. You are at least 22 years late
        1. Alew
          Alew 27 September 2013 12: 01
          0
          [quote = DoctorOleg] [/ quote]
          And what is not capitalism in Russia ?. You are at least 22 years late [/ quote]
          Capitalism is different to capitalism as man to man. Everywhere has its own mentality.
    3. pri3rak
      pri3rak 25 September 2013 11: 58
      0
      Read, it seems to be normally laid out here
      http://www.odnako.org/blogs/show_17702/
      1. ATATA
        ATATA 25 September 2013 20: 42
        -1
        Quote: pri3rak
        Read, it seems to be normally laid out here
        http://www.odnako.org/blogs/show_17702/

        I read ...
        Serbia and I have neither a land border nor a sea reach.
        How can I transport gas there by air?
    4. Deniska
      Deniska 25 September 2013 12: 52
      +7
      1. Serbs (Serb. Srbi) - the South Slavic people whose representatives live in Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Germany, Austria and other countries. The total number of about 12-13 million people. The main religion is Orthodoxy. The language is Serbian. This is to say that if we fraternize with the Slavs))
      2. According to the 2002 census, without Kosovo [31]:
      Orthodox - 6 371 584 people. (85,0% of the population) This is for religion.
      3. Imagine the geopolitical significance of a union Slavic country in Europe !!! Which I think in view of personal security does not refuse the presence of the military contingent of the Russian Federation.
      1. ATATA
        ATATA 25 September 2013 16: 06
        0
        Quote: Deniska
        Which I think in view of personal security does not refuse the presence of the military contingent of the Russian Federation.
        And what do you want to throw this contingent of specialists into the environment? What if he immediately ended up in the boiler?
    5. ATATA
      ATATA 25 September 2013 16: 47
      +1
      Yes!
      And I asked for pragmatic explanations.
      So far, only Ascetic has given a sensible answer.
      The rest, to be honest, are old songs about "brotherhood" (read freeloaders) around the neck of Russia.
      Only history teaches that all these brothers, if it’s difficult for Russia, then abruptly become second cousins ​​in a difficult moment for my country.
      I looked at Serbia's public debt, this is half of Russia's public debt ...
      1. ATATA
        ATATA 25 September 2013 20: 44
        0
        I look, judging by the minus, someone wants to contain Serbia from his pocket. laughing
        A pocket is not accidentally full of holes? what
        1. ATATA
          ATATA 26 September 2013 19: 01
          0
          Negative.
          But silent, like a fish on ice! laughing
          Coward?
    6. Konstantm
      Konstantm 25 September 2013 21: 04
      0
      "Russia has 3 friends: the Army, the Navy and the King of Montenegro. The rest of the allies." - Emperor of the All-Russian Grand Duke Alexander II.
  7. pri3rak
    pri3rak 25 September 2013 09: 12
    +6
    Of course it is very good that the Serbs have such impulses but:
    Currently, the president of Serbia is Tomislav Nikolic, a pro-Russian politician who succeeded Boris Tadic, who was much more loyal to the West. Meanwhile, it is obvious that the president in Serbia is an independent figure due to the huge leverage built after the NATO aggression in 1999. Because of this, all bold initiatives in Serbia, as a rule, come from figures removed from power, but it is precisely these voices that express the opinion of the majority.
    Taken here: http: //telegrafist.org/2013/09/18/87603/
  8. morpogr
    morpogr 25 September 2013 09: 13
    +1
    It is necessary to make sure that the Serbs see all the delights of the union with the EU, and all the benefits of the customs union and hold a referendum. Propaganda and agitation information war for the truth should be our weapon, and there you look and other European countries will think about it.
    1. pri3rak
      pri3rak 25 September 2013 09: 35
      +1
      Quote: morpogr
      It is necessary to make the Serbs see all the delights of the union with the EU, and all the benefits of the customs union and hold a referendum


      I ask a stupid question why ???

      Interestingly, Serbia is the only country in the political arena that pursues a very subtle policy of avoiding integration with the European Union and the West as a whole, but at the same time formally tries to join the European Union
      ..http: //telegrafist.org/2013/09/18/87603/
  9. eplewke
    eplewke 25 September 2013 09: 15
    +5
    We merged Serbia under Yeltsin ... Puppet power in Serbia will do its job. Outcome-forecast: 2014 Serbia in the EU. In 2016, the economy dies in Serbia ... In 2017, Serbia in the CU and CSTO ...
    1. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 25 September 2013 09: 54
      +2
      Add: 2017 - Russia as a donor carries out resuscitation of Serbia
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 25 September 2013 13: 50
      +2
      Quote: eplewke
      We merged Serbia under Yeltsin ...

      What YOU are a bad person, why did you merge Serbia, ay-ay-ay.
  10. PValery53
    PValery53 25 September 2013 09: 20
    +7
    We need to be friends with Serbia, especially since it itself is drawn to us. Expand economic cooperation with it. On the other hand, we must not allow the "tail to drive the horse" so that it does not provoke us into a big conflict in Europe.
  11. mirag2
    mirag2 25 September 2013 09: 23
    +1
    Here you are laughing - Serbia should have been taken into the Russian Federation, and this is not funny ... If the Serbs got our passports, then this would have begun, even if they had taken out the saints. And all sorts of Pussy Pays wright would have seemed like a good bedtime story if all this had to be appeased, the geyparades would have to be allowed anywhere by gays, at least in Gadzhievo.
  12. ReifA
    ReifA 25 September 2013 09: 25
    +3
    If you understand the article correctly, Serbia's interest is mainly economic. "Give me money, let's be friends." The money will be stolen anyway, even if someone gives it, if it is managed. Serbia's accession to the CU is good for Russia for political reasons. But money - Russia has forgiven and fed so many people. Rapprochement with Russia, yes, give money - no. IMHO.
    1. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 25 September 2013 09: 56
      0
      Well here it is.
  13. Muxauk
    Muxauk 25 September 2013 09: 25
    +1
    better let them be with us, small, but still a plus. the more countries in the vehicle, the better we are, and Ukraine must be with us
  14. Kpox
    Kpox 25 September 2013 09: 29
    11
    Common borders with a hypothetical member of the CU are not a guarantee of stability and prosperity. There is an experience of compact living without adjacent borders - the Kaliningrad region. It is much more important to "merge" the economy, or rather even industrially. With military affairs, especially within the framework of the CSTO, everything is even simpler - the paratroopers in 1999 clearly showed this at the Slatina airfield. I do not deny the spiritual connection between our peoples, but any spirit is stronger if it has a solid economic foundation and strong armed walls.
  15. Betahon
    Betahon 25 September 2013 09: 45
    +2
    Serbia .... A brotherly country, because of which we at least once ran into participation in the world war, during which millions of citizens and authority were lost!
    Now Serbia, a bride with a 29 billion debt in dowry, is thinking with whom to marry ...
    Probably, Russia itself must first decide what it needs! ... A brotherly reliable country in the family of the Slavic peoples of Russia or a bride constantly looking to the West ...
  16. King
    King 25 September 2013 09: 51
    0
    It is necessary for the people of the CU countries to send letters to their governments with a persistent proposal on the entry of Syria into the CU.
  17. Max otto
    Max otto 25 September 2013 09: 57
    17
    Such statements certainly sound nice, but let them first deal with their own power and the EU, and then they are going to the CU. And even hardly anyone will be against it.
    1. Ulysses
      Ulysses 25 September 2013 13: 57
      +3
      Absolutely right.
      Narov, who passed the Hague Milosevic and Karadzic on trial, lost much respect in my eyes.
      Serbs sold for a beautiful bait in the form of joining the European Union.
  18. Koronik
    Koronik 25 September 2013 10: 23
    +1
    I think why not make comparisons between the TS.c of the EU, and we should not encourage anyone to join the unions. The Serbs chose a direction for themselves (although people close to us by faith), but let them go to the end chosen. And there they will want to join, but only themselves.
  19. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 25 September 2013 10: 36
    +2
    ... We were promised investments, but they do not come.

    For these investments, ten SKINS WILL BE STRIPPED, and the people in the country will live even worse. As GayROPA keeps Serbia on a short leash and feeds it with promises, while making it dance to its tune, Ukraine will also be kept in the same "suspended" state, demanding the fulfillment of more and more new conditions.
    And the fact that Serbia had a desire to join the TS - BALM for the soul.
  20. deman73
    deman73 25 September 2013 10: 46
    +1
    all these pleasantries with a geyropa will have a bad effect on Serbia, only it will come to the Serbs later when the kirdyk begins to come slowly - then they will understand that the geyropes need them only as slaves and they will start screaming -Russia help
  21. Metlik
    Metlik 25 September 2013 11: 04
    -1
    1. An alliance with Serbia is needed, but today's power is unlikely to make Russia the leader of a new political alliance. I would put things in order at home before inviting others to my house.
    2. As statistics show, the customs union did not affect the development of trade of the participating countries. And nobody cares.
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 25 September 2013 11: 52
      +1
      And what is a mess at our place?
  22. velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 25 September 2013 11: 10
    +6
    I will repeat this comment on a similar topic earlier:
    "In 1999, I had an unequivocally Slavic position on the Yugoslav events. Later, after working and talking to the Serbs in the Russian south (the company" Putevi Group Uzice "changed their views somewhat. Most Serbs are rather sluggish about the events in Kosovo, no, of course they want Serbian Kosovo as a part of Serbia, but they want something strange, with someone else's hands. The 2008 presidential elections outlined the position of ordinary Serbs - integration into the European Union with the pro-European President Tadic, and by no means building close relations with Russia under the pro-Russian President Nikolic. 1914 is not enough for us. ., in the end, in the end, no matter how cynical it sounds, you have to think first of all about your people. We have no friends or brothers, but we have our own people tortured by reforms. The Serbs made their voluntary choice, it's time to understand this and leave them alone. one with his own choice. "
  23. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 25 September 2013 11: 11
    +4
    With such allies, my opinion is that enemies are not needed. When the socialist camp needed help from Yugoslavia, it demonstratively took a position of "neutrality" and actively cooperated with Western countries. All the current problems in Serbia are the consequences of the decisions taken at that time. Joining the CU or the EU is just an attempt to shift them onto someone else's shoulders. It is clear that for everyone except Serbia there is zero benefit from the union, the harm is a huge pile of problems in the solution of which we will immediately be drawn into, and by solving which Russia will lose more than it gains. The fact that after us they will immediately be asked to leave with an invoice "for the occupation" is also clear as daylight.
  24. Tan4ik
    Tan4ik 25 September 2013 11: 30
    +2
    These are the real Slav brothers!
  25. RUSS
    RUSS 25 September 2013 11: 39
    +2
    The most interesting thing is that neither Turkey nor Serbia and especially Ukraine will never be in the European Union, there are many reasons.
    Everyone knows about this, but still stubbornly eager to Europe ...
  26. Agent 008
    Agent 008 25 September 2013 11: 39
    +1
    Is it possible to measure friendship in terms of "profitable" or "not profitable" ... Serbian, I emphasize, the PEOPLE have always treated us like a brother ...
    1. chushoj
      chushoj 25 September 2013 13: 47
      +1
      What is true is true. One Serb was with me at the exercises, as he ended up in Belarus, I don’t know. He is a very paramilitary, courageous, and kind person. We understood each other from a half look, as if we were born in the same apartment. After Serbia, Bulgaria will unite - this is obvious on the map.
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 25 September 2013 13: 57
      0
      Quote: Agent 008
      Is it possible to measure friendship in terms of "profitable" or "not profitable" ... Serbian, I emphasize, the PEOPLE have always treated us like a brother ...

      Not always, Yugoslavia, for example, was not a member of the Warsaw Pact. You have lied, and having lied in one, will lie in the rest.
    3. velikoros-xnumx
      velikoros-xnumx 25 September 2013 18: 55
      0
      Have you lived in Serbia or have you been in contact with them for a long time to make such statements?
  27. RUSS
    RUSS 25 September 2013 11: 44
    +2
    I am sure the Great Eurasian Union will be in the future, from Montenegro to Sakhalin !!!
  28. Avdy
    Avdy 25 September 2013 11: 44
    +2
    As the author pointed out, the Russian Party, the Doors movement and the Democratic Party of Serbia are in favor of joining the CU.
    At the same time, the Democratic Party of Serbia has only 21 seats out of 250 in the People's Assembly. And the "Russian Party" and the "Doors" movement are not represented at all in the Serbian parliament, and, most likely, they will never be there. So, Serbia has no prospects for joining the Customs Union, unfortunately ...
    But, let's say, purely hypothetical, that Nikolic's ruling party, together with the democrats and socialists, will somehow change their minds (for example, first in order to bargain with the EU, and then really appreciate the "more advantageous offer" of Russia) and, together with the DPS , will vote for joining the Customs Union. Of course, this is the best option for Serbs in the long run. But, while the proposed CU with Serbia takes place and starts working in full force (and this is definitely not one year!), The Serbs will make themselves a bunch of new problems, which are actively imposed by their American and European "partners". Will the Serbian leadership have enough strength and courage to withstand? Will our leadership have enough political will for this?
    ... And Serbia's accession to the EU with subsequent loans and "investments" (IMHO) will definitely lead, if not to default, then to subsequent long-term debt repayments, with all the ensuing consequences for the Serbian people ...
  29. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 25 September 2013 11: 45
    +2
    Serbs are interested in the Su-30. After the end of the war with NATO in June 2000, a senior Yugoslav delegation visited Moscow. During the visit, a very experienced pilot, Colonel Mirceta Yokanovich, together with Sergei Bogdan, flew on a Su-30MK fighter.
    Colonel Mircheta Yokanovich and test pilot Sergei Bogdan in front of the second prototype of the Su-30MKK (tail number "502"), June 2000 (c) Svetozar Yokanovich

    The delegation concluded that the Su-30 is exactly the fighter that Yugoslavia needs, and in its conclusions recommended it for purchase by the national air force. This idea hovered for several months after the removal of President Milosevic, but it soon became clear that the new Serbian government would not buy weapons from Russia. It is interesting that for the first time the Yugoslav pilots saw the Su-30 back in 1997 at the air show in Batajnice.
    Su-30 (tail number "52") at the air show in Batainitsa, 1997 (c) Vojska

    However, in 2010, the idea of ​​purchasing new fighters returned again. The Serbian Air Force considered the MiG-29M2 fighter as the best offer on the criterion of "cost-effectiveness". On the other hand, there were complaints about the quality of service of the armed Russian MiG-29s.
    When there were reports that Russia was planning to deliver MiG-29M2 fighters to Syria, and Serbia would have to wait two years for its turn, the option of purchasing Su-30K fighters (stored in Baranovichi) that had been in operation was considered. Currently, Su fighters are considered by the Serbian command as more efficient than the MiG-29, on the other hand, additional costs are required for the retraining of the flight and technical personnel, as well as ground infrastructure. But at the same time, according to the Serbian side, it will not have as many problems with the maintenance and supply of spare parts, as was the case with the MiG fighters.
    According to:
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/555088.html#comments

    At the same time, the MiG-29M2 is still considered the best option, and the fate of its supplies in Serbia depends on the fulfillment of the Syrian contract.
    Yours! hi
    1. Sirius-2
      Sirius-2 25 September 2013 18: 13
      +2
      They have a national debt of 29 billion euros. As soon as they want to buy our EU planes an ultimatum for them: first pay off your debts, and then buy planes from the Russians, join the Customs Union, etc. Do you think that in this situation the Serbs will choose? I think that they will refuse from the vehicle, and from the SU-30MK.
  30. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 25 September 2013 11: 46
    +4
    Syria is certainly good, if not Greece set an example and come to the Customs Union, Europe will not be stopped. good
  31. ed65b
    ed65b 25 September 2013 11: 51
    +4
    give bros, we are waiting for you with open arms. Maybe Ukraine set an example.
  32. slacker
    slacker 25 September 2013 11: 58
    +4
    This is all rhetoric. In practice, the Serbs are asleep and see how they would join the EU and move, for example, to Germany to us, preferably leaving their homeland with its problems forever in the past.
  33. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 25 September 2013 12: 16
    +3
    “... We were promised investments, but they do not come. The country's debt is already about 29 billion euros. European politicians are only willing to use our natural resources. The Serbian economy remains low. We believe as a party that it is necessary to promote the idea of ​​the Eurasian Union as the salvation of the Serbian people. Russia is a big country, and it stands firmly on its feet ”
    The future of Ukraine after joining the EU. Honestly, Europe doesn’t care the people of Ukraine, the main thing is not to let Russia recover within the borders of the USSR. As the saying goes, feel the difference.
    The accession of Serbia and Montenegro to the CU and CSTO is not only economic cooperation, but also military cooperation. The deployment of Iskander and S-300 or S-400 complexes on the territory of these states will make it possible to control not only the airspace of Europe, but also nullify the idea of ​​Europro.
    As Vladimir Lenin would say: "Comrades, you are going the right way!" hi
  34. Ddhal
    Ddhal 25 September 2013 12: 19
    0
    With good intentions, the road to hell is lined ...
    Really no one has learned to draw conclusions even from recent history.
  35. saag
    saag 25 September 2013 12: 29
    +1
    No, let Serbia go to the European Union, with 29 billion debt it is needed only there :-) Let yourself be considered on a mission behind enemy lines :-)
    1. alexpro66
      alexpro66 25 September 2013 15: 27
      +2
      Think Comrade Correctly !! (AS WELL AS WITH THE MAPPING ACCENT OF TOV LENIN))))
      I know the Balkans not by hearsay! Nikolic is a typical political prostitute (as Comrade Lenin would say) In general, look at the root, in history, the people of Serbia and Montenegro have always considered and still consider Russians as brothers (I can assure you in the overwhelming majority) I speak Serbian quite well, therefore this information is not from printed publications! But Serbia's politicians have always used these Russophile sentiments of their citizens (plus the Orthodox single faith-patriarchate, Serbia received only Thanks to Russia)), receiving good preferences from Russia in the form of political, military and financial assistance over the centuries - at the same time they always played their game when they shout hard - "Russia help !!!!!" when everything is in oil "Russia -mirsh !!! - we ourselves with a mustache" !!!
      But the people are really sorry, simple Serbs, I assure you they love Russians1 Very often in tight times I constantly hear from them "We and the Russians are a huge truck and plus the Montenegrins a small trailer!" "God is in heaven and Russia is on earth!"
  36. SAG
    SAG 25 September 2013 12: 35
    0
    A vivid example for Ukraine that awaits it !! A bunch of promises, and as a result many, many years in the position of an associate member, oppression of own production and accumulating loans belay
  37. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 25 September 2013 12: 45
    0
    Quote: saag
    No, let Serbia go to the European Union, with 29 billion debt it is needed only there :-) Let yourself be considered on a mission behind enemy lines :-)

    Well, don’t tell, NATO is clinging to the borders of Russia .. and we are once and for all with our missile defense systems and an evil assault .. (in the center of Europe ..) and these debts of Serbia will be more than paid off! The howl will certainly be .. but as always they will bark and calm down ..
    1. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 25 September 2013 19: 00
      +1
      NATO is a lot of America and a little Europeans.
      In order to win NATO, nothing needs to be placed in the center of Europe. A fairly large base in Cuba and it will be possible to agree with America on anything, at least on the dissolution of this NATO.
  38. Harlampy
    Harlampy 25 September 2013 14: 08
    +2
    Quote: Essenger
    Quote: MIKHAN
    I can imagine the screams "The Russians have taken over the center of Europe!


    Serbia is the backyard of Europe, what other center? wink

    Maybe not quite the center, but poplars, beeches and ash-trees will look great there .. lol
  39. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 25 September 2013 14: 47
    +2
    Quote: Harlampy
    Quote: Essenger
    Quote: MIKHAN
    I can imagine the screams "The Russians have taken over the center of Europe!


    Serbia is the backyard of Europe, what other center? wink

    Maybe not quite the center, but poplars, beeches and ash-trees will look great there .. lol

    Yes, our tanks will simply do gas re-gasing periodically (check engines, warm them up) .. The effect will be the same .. bully (in the GDR it worked quite well psychologically)
  40. 006 Feliks
    006 Feliks 25 September 2013 15: 01
    +2
    Quote: Valery Neon
    How similar it is to the situation with Ukraine, like two drops ...

    Absolutely agree ! The question is: what should happen so that these countries finally understand that an alliance with the West will not bring them any benefits!?
  41. saag
    saag 25 September 2013 15: 30
    +1
    Quote: 006 Feliks
    The question is: what should happen so that these countries finally understand that an alliance with the West will not bring them any benefits!?

    War
  42. gyl
    gyl 25 September 2013 15: 34
    -1
    Yeah, fun at the conference ... The flight of fantasy is unstoppable - well, what can it be there, let's dream about joining the TC TC, it is there that in poverty and evil spirits, birthmarks were outlined about the protection of the navel of the Earth ...
  43. Ihrek
    Ihrek 25 September 2013 16: 09
    +2
    Rather, they are gaining their price. Like if you don’t take us to the EU, then we can go to the CU. And so if they had a choice they would choose the EU.
  44. Hulk
    Hulk 25 September 2013 16: 54
    +6
    Quote: saag
    No, let Serbia go to the European Union, with 29 billion debt it is needed only there :-)

    She is not needed in the European Union.
    The new Minister of Economics Sasha Radulovic said that the Serbian economy is in a state of quiet collapse, and most companies are on the verge of bankruptcy or have already gone bankrupt. The unemployment rate has been steadily increasing, and currently stands at 24,1%.

    Russia does not need it either.
    For the sake of integration, the Serbs surrendered to Kosovo, their history, their identity, for the sake of the EU they surrendered Karadzic, gave to the deceased Milosevic and others. Of course, you can treat these people in different ways, but it is important to remember one thing - if a country surrenders its own, then there is no need to reckon with such a country.
    There is no brotherhood between countries, dear patriots, romantics and madmen. There are benefits and pragmatism, and exclusively business relations. Stop hovering in the clouds and climb with your fictional brotherhood to other countries - this is the lesson that we must learn for a long time. They do not want to be friends for free.
    According to the Prime Minister, Marko Tsvetkovich relations with Russia should be exclusively business in nature and built on a mutually beneficial basis. That is, Russia now needs cheap gas and an energy route that will pass through the country, and bring money for transportation.
    Make friends better with people, families. It is not worth attributing brotherhood and friendship to nations.
  45. Deadman
    Deadman 25 September 2013 19: 12
    0
    Before taking these steps, residents of Serbia need to understand that no one needs them there! it would be different they would have been there a very long time ago)
  46. Stavr
    Stavr 25 September 2013 19: 50
    0
    According to recent surveys of various organizations, approximately half of the inhabitants, from 42% to 53%, support Serbia’s accession to the EU. Many Serbs are counting on the creation of new jobs and on the revitalization of the economy with the help of injections of European money and the magical change of Serbian minuses to pluses.


    Damn, why aren't they watching the telly ?? what nafig revival of the economy ?? they are used and left to their own devices later, like Greece and Cyprus.
  47. Troy
    Troy 25 September 2013 20: 00
    -3
    Correctly said above, there is no fraternity - there is a benefit. But what irritates me most is that when the Ukrainians slurp shit from a European bucket and begin to bend, they will immediately remember the brotherhood between our peoples. They will crawl for help, and our compassionate authorities will help them all, but not their own. And I would make them cry out European buckets of crap to the bottom!
    1. gyl
      gyl 25 September 2013 21: 15
      0
      a) give an example of those who have already crawled and remembered the brotherhood, perhaps this will frighten us and reason. b) let me crap, the option is to rot in the Wild West, well, are you sorry?
      1. Troy
        Troy 26 September 2013 16: 20
        0
        Take the fat out of your mind and study the history of trade relations over the past 10 years. Although I got excited about the fat. I'm sorry. you and fat is not left, as your zarobitchane say. laughing
  48. nekromonger
    nekromonger 25 September 2013 20: 43
    +1
    Kosovo je Srbija
  49. GUSAR
    GUSAR 25 September 2013 21: 33
    +2
    Kosovo is Serbia !!
  50. 020205
    020205 25 September 2013 22: 10
    +1
    “We stand for an economic and, most importantly, a military alliance. Three or four days ago it was reported that Vladimir Putin said that after a visit to Serbia in December, he would offer to strengthen economic and military cooperation between our countries. ”.Yes, of course, especially military cooperation, but the simple question is that we need you? The fact that you are Orthodox and Slavs is not an argument for me personally. "... We were promised investments, but they do not come. The country's debt is already about 29 billion euros. European politicians are only willing to use our natural resources. Serbian economy remains lowoh, how they shaved you there, you remembered about Mother Russia, maybe gentlemen, you also have to pay the debt for you ?! As much as .... shakes from such expressions