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Today is the first day in a very long time, when I calmly was able to surf the Internet, watch TV (where, to my pleasure, I came across Polygon, which told about our ZRPK Pantsir-S1), see the BO comments in the thread about Putin’s “Valdai Speech”, feared for the imprudent step of the Ukrainian political establishment in another jam called “European Integration” and try to predict further developments in the Middle East, around Syria.

“WHEN A PERSON IS AN IDIOT, THIS IS FOR LONGER”

The situation with the European aspirations of Ukraine in the European tolerant family, of course, does not add optimism, and it remains only to state the fact that human stupidity is not a passing phenomenon. From time to time, our brothers from the suburbs attend a desire to tickle their nerves with a message in some regular yamina, in order to assert their independence and land acquisition. And this extremals never knew that such attempts were in the past, and every time Russia had to extract them from the next failure under the conditional name “Anal”.

At one of the resources I read an interview with Glazyev on the topic of “development prospects” of Ukraine, if it is associated with the EU, and was struck by the irresponsibility, illiteracy and stupidity of those Ukrainian politicians and dreamers who are trying to prove to everyone (and first of all - themselves) that nothing catastrophic will happen in the economy for the simple reason that by signing an agreement with the EU, it will be possible to ignore those points that become a contradiction of cooperation between Ukraine and the CU. Naive lads say so directly that “we will sign, and there it is not necessary to fulfill all the provisions to the last letter”! This is how funny the political thinking of Svidomo politicians evolved in an environment where Russia looked patiently and condescendingly at their frills, in bilateral relations with Russia, as politically talented partners.

And, as some statements and hasty actions of the Ukrainian political "elite" showed, their so rapid fall into the arms of European brothers more closely resembles the insult of a foolish man, who, offended by his strict grandmother, decided to freeze his ears so that she - such a bad one - would be worse .

Then he came across excerpts from a contract concluded between Ukraine and the American company Chevron on “joint” development of shale gas deposits in Ukraine. I read it and choked it ... So, the provisions of this treaty were forgotten by the forgotten stench of 90, when such agreements joyfully swept Yeltsin and when the American oil conquistadors rushed to our Far East, swallowing oil and destroying taiga forests and laying oil pipelines. Exactly the same agreement "On Production Sharing", pumped oil out of Russian land, practically, Russia itself, without giving in return, except for the disfigured and lifeless ploshin.

The most terrifying thing is that, absolutely in the spirit of the conquerors of the wild west, the current American oil cowboys brazenly, shamelessly and contemptuously towards the Ukrainians themselves, in these treaties secured the right to grab nearby land plots, should the need arise (someone doubts that such the need will immediately arise?), to have their paramilitary units to protect their “sovereign rights”, and the state that has leased these lands to them is deprived of the right to challenge these actions!

It is impossible to explain such actions of the Ukrainian leadership with simple short-sightedness. Too everything lies on the surface to naively believe that this is a banal thoughtlessness. The answer, in principle, in the same interview was voiced by the interlocutor of Glazyev: “They are offered money for it. Big money! ”

"GETTING UNIFIED ..."

Like and not a landmark event happened in our government - the return of Mr.. Surkov in the office of the President. Like the man, this same Mr. Surkov, intelligent and for the first time his government-hardware vigils showed himself quite proactive, rushing into battle for the truth-womb, and skillfully kept on the wave of propaganda innovations. True, a small mistake was made in this field - from the unlimited number of Internet fighters left for Surkov's infofront, it turned out to be a certain number of children who had become so accustomed to the image of fiery bloggers, so imbued with the atmosphere of the Internet spirit that they began to denounce their opponents on such a hairdryer one internet hamster would not have thought of. This innovation had to be urgently canceled and Mr. Surkov switched to an exciting occupation with hardware games. And he was so carried away by this that "on the recommendation" Putin had to leave "of his own accord." Fine. Ordinary hardware get-together. Just something tells us that this demonstrative withdrawal “at will” was hardware reconnaissance in force. If Putin then attempted to keep Surkov near himself, then the opinion of the particular value of this employee would appear and Mr. Surkov, cheering up and inspired by heightened self-esteem, would go chopping his own womb and believing in its special value. Did not work. The result was a span, like plywood. After that, tears and grief went to all the media with the words “I was next to a great man!”, “Putin sent to Russia from above!”, Etc. and in the same vein. Probably someone saw him kneeling in front of the Kremlin fence, like a son praying for forgiveness. We didn’t see it, but it was very crushing and universal that was the grief of detached from the Kremlin corridors.

All anything. It happens to many people. Power is a capricious girl and requires constant and increased attention. Some retire with their heads held high, others find themselves in other areas, and someone, angry as Mr. Gudkov, goes into opposition. But there are those who, for the sake of returning to the domineering Olympus, are ready to go to the feet and plunder in repentance and humiliation. Well, man is weak. And such a quality as generosity is a great quality, as our political events have shown, Vladimir Vladimirovich of this quality is not deprived. And the fact that he allowed the lost to return to the bosom of power is, in part, a manifestation of generosity, and partly by a pragmatic approach. I would only like the President to always remember the well-known saying that - “Once betrayed ...”

Something all really serious note I get today. The day was tense, but it ended with a small victory - one of the objects was handed over and the customer was satisfied. And in order not to end this publication on such a note, I want to share with you a funny fact from the life of the Estonian Armed Forces.

We all know about the brave Baltic warriors - about their combat readiness to withstand the hordes of Russian invaders, about their powerful army and military defense ministers. Some time ago, there was a selection of photographs of Estonian soldiers in the VO, an accompanying article entitled “The Estonian Minister knows how to Pause the Russians Tanks". Particularly noteworthy in this heading is the word “SUSPEND” - it is very precisely noted how powerful the Estonian army is. And now a video appeared on YouTube, where the curtain opens over the deeply secret developments of Estonian military engineers in confronting the Russian Army. The video is wonderful and instructive. Now, Russian Russian soldier! How Estonians are preparing to stop the Russian army ... (documentary comedy)

The secret exercises of the Estonian Defense Forces on tactics and obstruction of the tank-motorized breakthrough of the Russian army were held at the test site in Tapa. Samples of the alleged enemy BTR-80, BMP-1 (donated by finals for the museum of technology), tracked Russian all-terrain vehicle, tank T-55 (rented from Latvia) were involved in the exercises. Also, Finnish armored personnel carrier (in my X-200) was used as the superiority of the NATO technology and for comparison.

In short, as the brave Estonian soldier says: "This is a training session on creating obstacles for the Russian military equipment. With the help of a bulldozer and mother like that, we dug ditches and escarpments of various configurations in order to test the most effective way to fight Russian barbarians on rusty tanks "Then he justifies himself all the way that he could not stop. Then, on the orders of the commander-in-chief, the crew deliberately places the T-55 into the pit, in order to justify at least some training costs and demonstrate at least some success. Ultimately, the Estonians are building a wall of logs, against which the tank rests and ... cannot overcome! At the end, the presenter of the program declares pathetically, “As we can see, we have nothing to fear of Russian tanks! As long as we have brave soldiers, and as long as we have Estonian trees that will stop any Russian tank!”

P.S. The film does not show that tanks and infantry fighting vehicles can not only stupidly drive and drill to obstacles, but also shoot. By obstacles. Obstacles from the Estonian wood, the same as the head of the organizer of such exercises. Also bypassed is the fact that in any tank regiment. the brigade has special equipment with dumps and pontoons for overcoming natural obstacles and digging up caponiers. Also behind the scenes was the fact that tanks do not drive alone.

Conclusion - do not drive around Estonia in a lonely tank and everything will be fine. Come on three!)



That's all, dear colleagues.

I wish you all the best. Sincerely, ESAUL.
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  1. +15
    23 September 2013 08: 03
    The most terrifying thing is that, absolutely in the spirit of the conquerors of the wild west, the current American oil cowboys brazenly, shamelessly and contemptuously towards the Ukrainians themselves, in these treaties secured the right to grab nearby land plots, should the need arise (someone doubts that such the need will immediately arise?), to have their paramilitary units to protect their “sovereign rights”, and the state that has leased these lands to them is deprived of the right to challenge these actions!
    So, I really want to hear our visitor Kars, who said that Ukraine joining the Customs Union will lose its independence belay Maybe I don’t know how to read, but in my Ukraine the West has in all poses, even without taking off his pants laughing
    This is not even far-sightedness, it is frank stupidity and not even of the Ukrainian elite, but of the people who are silent and hawala this nonsense about the bright geo-European happiness.
    1. +4
      23 September 2013 08: 59
      The author cunningly inserted the topic of Surkov in the main part of the article :-)
      1. +3
        23 September 2013 10: 26
        Quote: Civil
        The author cunningly inserted the topic of Surkov in the main part of the article :-)

        not so tricky if you notice it ... wink
        1. +5
          23 September 2013 11: 00
          The author cunningly inserted ....
          Surkov and someone else.
          1. +9
            23 September 2013 11: 15
            She said, "Get in my position!"
            And he went into her position ... And he went out ... And he went in again ... And he went out ...
            And he left, leaving her in her position ... (M.M. Zhvanetsky)
            wink
          2. -1
            23 September 2013 20: 46
            Quote: Igarr
            The author cunningly inserted ....
            Surkov and someone else.


            belay
    2. +10
      23 September 2013 11: 47
      I do not want to comment on this work, for myself I have long ago decided that Esaul is not my writer, but that is why Esaul has the right to write the word "idiot", and ordinary members of the forum are deprived of this pleasure? winked
      1. +5
        23 September 2013 12: 14
        Because you, like many, are in a group - VISITORS ...
        And to you, like me, all sorts of novels and other advocates of the purity of the Russian language can put a warning in the light, for any mistake in writing letters, or even a ban ...

        Tremble silently ...)))
        1. +4
          23 September 2013 12: 18
          Quote: Tartary
          Because you, like many others, are in the group - VISITORS ... And you, like me, all sorts of novels and other advocates of the purity of the Russian language, can slap a warning in the light, for any oversight in writing letters, or even - BAN ... Tremble silently ...)))

          Well yes, I got a warning for the word swingers wassat The funniest thing is when for the same comment you first receive a warning from the moderator, and then from the admin, even the most humane Soviet court did not punish twice for one crime laughing
        2. +7
          23 September 2013 14: 02
          Quote: Tartary
          And to you, like me, all sorts of novels and other advocates of the purity of the Russian language can put a warning in the light, for any mistake in writing letters, or even a ban ...


          p.1 Moderator is always right.
          p.2 If the moderator is not right - see p.1.
          Clause 3 Claims - in private.

          But seriously, last year there was a discussion on the site about levels of rigidity of site rules and language purity. So the current standards are nothing more than the product of the opinions and wishes of MOST users, well, do not forget about the need to comply with the current Russian legislation regarding the media (obscene, religious intolerance, etc.)
          It is a different matter as a moderator who interprets the rules, it’s like in football there is a judge who, for the slightest foul, puts the whistle on, and there is one who gives play by recording only obvious obvious frank stupidity (I wanted to write rudeness but a reservation to the topic turned out).
          For example, I belong to the second category, and if I give a ban or delete, then only for outright rudeness and insulting words and also for flooding.
          Therefore, firstly, you must comply with the established rules approved by the majority (by the way, I am also a supporter of a freer expression), and secondly, if you do not agree with something, write specifically in a personal to a specific moderator or complain to the administrator ...
          Fronds have nothing to arrange here ... there was already -
          a gang of moderator marshals led by Esaul, Romanov, Ascetic ..
          Passed already ..
          1. +2
            24 September 2013 03: 44
            Quote: Ascetic
            a gang of moderator marshals led by Esaul, Romanov, Ascetic ..

            Quote: Ascetic
            Passed already ..

            History repeats itself twice request laughing And even thrice wassat
    3. 0
      23 September 2013 14: 16
      and then what awaits them is what is described in the article "Sexual education. And sexual abuse (Latvia)" ...
    4. +1
      23 September 2013 15: 02
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      in my Ukraine, the West has in all poses, even without taking off his pants


      Why shoot? Yanukovych’s pants are put on before his meeting.
  2. predator.3
    +7
    23 September 2013 08: 04
    I read an interview with Glazyev on one of the resources on the “development prospects” of Ukraine in case of its association with the EU and was amazed at the irresponsibility, illiteracy and stupidity of those Ukrainian dreamer politicians who seek everyone (and first of all to themselves) to prove that with the Ukrainian nothing catastrophic will happen to the economy for the simple reason that by signing an agreement with the EU, it will be possible to ignore those points that become a contradiction of cooperation between Ukraine and the CU.


    I respect Glazyev, as one of the adequate economists of the country and the world, I remember how, on the eve of the 2008 crisis, he alone warned about the consequences for Russia, when everyone (including President Dima) shouted that the crisis “there”, overseas, would not affect Russia!
  3. +8
    23 September 2013 08: 07
    It’s so good that there are such peoples - Estonians and Latvians. Looking at them you understand that it’s not so bad with us. PS Thank you for the informative review with a fun epilogue, laughed heartily laughing
  4. +3
    23 September 2013 08: 07
    Serious teachings among Estonians ... heh heh ..
  5. +2
    23 September 2013 08: 18
    the beginning of the article is completely eclipsed by its end))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
  6. Valery Neonov
    +3
    23 September 2013 08: 21
    "The only thing I would like the President to always remember is the well-known saying that -" Once betrayed ... ""- what about Surkov, it's about him; but what about Golikova .. "once we failed ... let's try again .." or the spouse "pushed through" (convinced)recourse...
    Ukraine, oh, Ukraine ... and again they want to sit on two chairs ... "Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych said that Kiev is ready to join the Customs Union. However, the country will accept only those provisions that will not prevent its rapprochement with the European Union."seehttp: //www.dni.ru/economy/2013/9/20/260394.html
    1. +1
      23 September 2013 08: 25
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      "President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych said that Kiev is ready to join the Customs Union. However, the country will only accept those provisions that will not prevent its rapprochement with the European Union

      President Yanukovych is ready laughing He doesn’t really consider everyone as idiots otherwise.
      1. +1
        23 September 2013 11: 23
        Yes-ah-ah ... no Zhvanetsky with Petrosyan is needed ..
        "..However, the country will only accept those provisions that do not interfere with its rapprochement with the European Union ... "
        ...
        To catch my breath ...
    2. predator.3
      -1
      23 September 2013 18: 10
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      "The only thing I would like the President to always remember is the well-known saying that -" Once betrayed ... "" - with regards to Surkov, this is about him; but what about Golikova .. "once we failed ... let's try again .." or the spouse "pushed through" (convinced) ...


      I agree with you, I already got this shabby "deck", which year its GDP hangs out, and threatened to renew the government, well, the elections were held, and the "Moor" (people) can calm down and hawala what they give him!
  7. +2
    23 September 2013 08: 22
    Shown are the illiterate carriers of the BMP and the tank. And earlier it was generally cool! I watched this full movie, where the tank tried five times to get out of the pit! Will sit on your belly and scratch with caterpillars! Comes down and again to the old place! I almost burst out laughing. Like - "Saapsem blocking the ryusske of the tank!" But this episode was thrown out, apparently someone clever appeared and ridiculed hot Estonian pri-and-d-fools.
    Speaking of birds, the tank did not immediately get out of the pit, a second time, climb a little, but in a different place. Faster jump out, and in the old you will find a fool in the belly. Have drove it db. in the subconscious.
    1. Kubanets
      0
      23 September 2013 13: 27
      I support. Armored formations have freedom of maneuver. Or did the Chukhons decide to fence themselves off with a Chinese (I apologize) log wall? Will there be enough forests?
  8. Gennady1973
    0
    23 September 2013 08: 28
    I’m not military by profession, but I’m sure any personnel officer of the ground forces, not to mention the engineering forces, knows exactly what the anti-tank ditch should be, or an obstacle insurmountable for the tank. It’s a pity there is no translation on video, but again I’m sure there are no kind words addressed to us Where does this hatred come from? For whom was this report made?
    1. +8
      23 September 2013 08: 37
      The forum periodically publishes Sunday mosaics.
      The now published article includes three topics at once: the attitude of Ukraine towards the CU, the return of V. Surkov and the teachings of the Estonian self-defense forces.
      That's the connection between these events, I did not catch. And you?! Or maybe it's not an article but a Monday mosaic. laughing
      1. +2
        23 September 2013 08: 56
        C'mon, like in regular magazines. First, serious articles, and at the end a page of humor
      2. +2
        23 September 2013 10: 29
        Quote: Apollon
        That's the connection between these events, I did not catch. And you ?!

        astral ... winked
      3. 0
        23 September 2013 13: 39
        Quote: Apollon
        Here is the connection between these events, I did not catch

        We recall the "bearded" classics: "There is no connection, except for a sexual connection." wassat
      4. +1
        24 September 2013 03: 47
        Quote: Apollon
        Or maybe this is not an article but a Monday mosaic.

        Post-weekend syndrome with deep withdrawal symptoms wassat
        1. 0
          25 September 2013 19: 25
          Verbal balancing act.
  9. Corneli
    +2
    23 September 2013 09: 04
    It would be better news about the terrorist attack in Kenya thrown:
    "The number of victims of militants of the Islamist group" Al-Shabab ", who staged an armed attack on a shopping center in Nairobi last Saturday, has risen to 68.
    According to the latest data, among the dead are the nephew of the President of Kenya, citizens of France, Canada, China, India, the Republic of Korea and Peru. About 300 people were injured, including US citizens.
    According to the Kenyan Emergency Situations Center, with the onset of darkness, the country's special forces, with the support of Israeli counterterrorism experts, began an operation to free the hostages and eliminate the Al-Shabab terrorists at the Westgate shopping center.
    It is noted that among the militants were three Americans from Minnesota and Kansas City. "
    1. +5
      23 September 2013 09: 32
      Quote: Corneli
      It is noted that among the militants were three Americans from Minnesota and Kansas City. "

      Then what kind of terrorists are these, they are fighters for democracy.
    2. +1
      23 September 2013 09: 36
      Now local Jews seem that special forces are headless in Kenya. But Massadov’s experts could not influence them.
  10. 0
    23 September 2013 09: 32
    [quote] [hasty actions of the Ukrainian political "elite", their so rapid fall into the arms of European brothers, / quote]
    The other day, information flashed that at a meeting of the President of Ukraine and the PRESIDENT OF LITHUANIA in Crimea (Lithuania is currently chairing the EU and the agreement between Ukraine and the EU will be signed in VILNIUS), Madame President said that if Julia is not granted amnesty and she will not be released for will, then no signing will be.
    I wonder how YANUKOVICH will get out of this situation ... after all, he understands perfectly well that after all the accusations against TIMOSHENKO, the initiation of 7 criminal cases against Yulia, including for organizing and financing a contract murder, there can be no talk of amnesty conversation ... And Tymoshenko's release to freedom will definitely mean that YANUKOVICH himself will very soon go to the cell to replace the former "gas princess"! An eye for an eye ... so to speak!
  11. +2
    23 September 2013 09: 32
    The news is not new. Pan Yanyk certainly burns that the lads will soon have their forelocks popping. Here Azarov briefly watched the interview. He spoke about the innumerable reserves of oil shale industry in nenka. Yes, the brotherly people were "lucky" with the first heads of the state.
    1. +4
      23 September 2013 09: 55
      It's time for Azarov to shout loudly: "I'm for slate!"
    2. +1
      23 September 2013 10: 07
      Another 10th conference was held in Yalta, organized by the oligarch and Kuchma's son-in-law Pinchuk .. Look at its composition and everything will fall into place .. Including get answers to the questions: "Who is spilling the country" .. and so on
      "In discussions at the forum, the fate of the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Sweden Karl Bildt; ) Leonid Kuchma; President of the Republic of Poland (1994 - 2005), Head for YES Oleksandr Kwasnuvsky; 1995th Prime Minister of Italy (2005 - 54) Mario Monti; Secretary General of the Interpolu Ronald Noble; US Army General of the United States at the Director US Development Administration (2011 - 2013) Devid Petraeus; 2011th Governor of New Mexico (2012 - 30), 2003th US Secretary of State for Energy (2011 - 9) Bill Richardson; Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Nimechchina (1998 - 2001) ) Gerhard Schröder; Supreme Representative of the EU for Foreign Policy and Security (1998-2005), member of Naglyadovo for YES Hav'or Solana; Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Poland Radoslaw Sikors cue; OBS General SecretaryЄ
      Lamberto Zannєr. "Isn't there a lot of stars and stripes, and even some (!!!) ... (A married couple of Clintons, CIA, power engineer ....) And Europe is not offended, Solana. Poles ..
      http://yes-ukraine.org/ua/Yalta-annual-meeting/10th-yalta-annual-meeting
  12. +1
    23 September 2013 10: 17
    do not drive in Estonia on a lonely tank

    Can we skip this way, huh? soldier
  13. Wolverine67
    +1
    23 September 2013 11: 05
    .... thanks to the author for the "pictures" from the Estonian teachings, amused! It’s a pity only for our equipment, because the whole running gear goes away, why "tear" it. do they really have no normal, still Soviet, tankers, after all, former Soviet servicemen should remain with them, after all, the guys from the Baltic States served in the Soviet Army, including in the tank forces, that's who they had to put at the levers showed what a real Soviet tank with a skilled crew is. We have a warehouse of a cropped tank division in Kozulka, there are three mechanized grandfathers, about 50 years old, so on May 9, such demonstration dances on T-34 and T-55 suit that from all around and from the edge of the magazine and just spectators specially come to see, there are real professionals, modern contractors can learn a lot ...
  14. wax
    -1
    23 September 2013 12: 09
    The only thing I would like for the President to always remember the famous proverb is that - "Once betrayed ..."

    Yes, he remembers, school, tea, not the last.
  15. +2
    23 September 2013 12: 32
    To "scare" the Russians, even the only tank in the entire Baltic region was not sorry
  16. +2
    23 September 2013 13: 04
    From YouTube:
    Vladimir Fedin a week ago

    The words "Estonian Army" make it funny. And "Estonian special forces" is generally a ready-made two-word anecdote.
    laughing
  17. 0
    23 September 2013 16: 04
    It seems that a non-epochal event happened in our government - the return of Mr. Surkov in the office of the President.

    Come on, not epoch-making. Another epoch-making. Suffice it to recall that it was Surkov who largely determined domestic policy. It was Surkov who built the vertical of power and significantly influenced internal relations between power structures and groups. Surkov was a gray cardinal and his return suggests that they cannot cope without him, and not at all that he obeyed and, out of the kindness of his soul, GDP decided to warm the "prodigal son"
    The author generally presents an interesting apparatus of the President. That is, Surkov was kicked out for some wrongdoing, he repented, and he was again taken. Kindergarten - webbing pants
    Well, Surkov may have repented (although I, unlike the author, had not heard anything about it), but they were taken back not because of repentance, but because there were no inventors left in power. Abramovich is in London, Chubais is an odious figure, Voloshin is too dangerous, Berezovsky is dead. There was no one to think, weave intrigue, calculate options and invent political combinations, so Surkov was returned, and not at all because he, as a preschooler, said: "I will not be any more." It will be, it will be. That's why he returned.

    PS
    In the order of delirium, of course, but still; whether we should expect the return of our beloved Anatoly Eduardovich by all.
    And what? Golikova .... Surkov .... That look and Zurabov with Gref will catch up. Kudrin is not far away .... And there he will reach Serdyukov. wassat
    1. -1
      23 September 2013 20: 53
      Quote: Normal
      In the order of delirium, of course, but still; whether we should expect the return of our beloved Anatoly Eduardovich by all.
      And what? Golikova .... Surkov .... That look and Zurabov with Gref will catch up. Kudrin is not far away .... And there he will reach Serdyukov.

      what
      in the East we have such folk wisdom:

      even a donkey cannot be forced to go through the mud if he once got stuck there. wassat
  18. -1
    23 September 2013 16: 29
    Thanks Esaul, the video really delivered laughing Apparently, in the event of an attack by "Russian barbarians on rusty tanks", the defense of Estonia will consist of gouges, gouges and gouges ... lol Hmm, it’s really difficult to break through such a defense when your tankers are inadequate. Laughing.
  19. 0
    25 September 2013 15: 48
    The day was stressful, but crowned with a small victory - they handed over one of the objects and the customer was satisfied.
    An interesting format for the author. In the next article, I will also tell you about my well-being, share my joy and ask for advice.

    PS The video was very amusing, as was the commentary on it.
  20. 0
    25 September 2013 19: 35
    Well, Estonia finally ... ferocious special forces and ... armored forces ... caught up with a rustle !.