Why does Russia send ships to the Mediterranean?

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The attention of the whole world is focused on the situation around Syria. Analysts are trying to predict the exact date of the military invasion of foreign countries and make other predictions. For example, the possibility of participation in the conflict of a country and even the likelihood that the intervention in Syria will result in an armed conflict between third countries is being considered. The forecasts for a major war often feature Russian ships on duty in the Mediterranean. According to some experts and some of the public concerned, it is the Russian Navy that will become the force that will not allow NATO countries to strike at Syria or even help it defend itself.



Judging by the available information, Russia is not going to openly participate in a possible war. However, in the Mediterranean at the present time there are about a dozen Russian warships and an unnamed number of submarines. They perform various combat training tasks, but at the same time they do not take any aggressive actions. Russian cruisers, large landing ships, etc., to put it in modern terminology, carry out their presence in the region and follow the current situation, but no more.

It must be remembered that in the event of a conflict, Russian sailors will most likely have to perform new tasks directly related to the situation in the region. It is unlikely that it will strike at any targets or defend ground and surface objects. The composition of the Russian group in the Mediterranean Sea speaks in favor of such an assumption. Almost half of the ships there are destined for the transportation and landing of troops. Large landing ships (BDK) of the Black Sea, Baltic and even Pacific fleets are simply not intended for active combat operations at sea. However, they can be used as a transport for the necessary goods, including military ones.

In recent days, the question of finding Russian landing ships near Syria has been further developed. A few days ago, the Nikolai Filchenkov BDK came out of Novorossiysk. The ship headed to the eastern part of the Mediterranean, which caused a specific reaction of some foreign media. Large landing ships of the 1171 project, to which Nikolay Filchenkov belongs, are capable of transporting over one thousand tons of various cargoes. Probably, it was precisely the cargo accepted by the ship in Novorossiysk, the composition of which was not announced, that caused ambiguous publications in the foreign press.



The use of large amphibious ships as a transport of certain goods required by the Syrian army, at the moment has no official confirmation. A number of facts may serve as an indirect confirmation of this assumption, but the Russian leadership has not yet disclosed the true reasons for the transfer of a large number of BDK to the area of ​​possible conflict.

In this regard, it is worth considering the second version of the presence of landing ships. In Syria, despite the long civil war, there is still a large number of Russians who came there on a business trip or permanently. In the event of a full-scale conflict, the BDK will be able to take them on board and deliver them to Russia. Amphibious ships in the region, depending on the specific type, are capable of carrying everyone from 200 to 300. Thus, in one flight, seven BDKs can return approximately 1500-2000 Russians to their homeland.

And yet, in addition to the amphibious ships in the Mediterranean, there are ships of other types. Particular attention is the hike of the missile cruiser "Moscow". He recently visited the ports of Cuba and Nicaragua. Now, having completed all the planned combat training tasks in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, he is heading for the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea. As already mentioned, Russian ships are unlikely to fight with anyone if intervention in Syria begins, but finding a ship in the region with powerful air defense systems and a developed radar complex will allow Russia to monitor all events and, if necessary, assist friendly Syria .



The Russian ships in the eastern part of the Mediterranean, using their radar systems, are able to create a continuous surveillance zone covering both the territory of Syria and the nearby waters. This will allow the Russian military to observe the movements of NATO ships, track missile launches and strike aircraft sorties. At the same time, Russian sailors can be not only silent observers, but also informants. The information received can be transmitted to the relevant authorities of the Russian Ministry of Defense, and in addition, to the Syrian headquarters. This may be the help promised by the Russian leadership.

Thus, a fairly plausible picture is formed of how, in the event of an intervention, Russian ships arriving in the Mediterranean Sea will work. Naturally, in real conditions assumptions can either be confirmed or be refuted. However, in the current situation it is impossible to make more accurate predictions. With confidence we can only say that the Russian ships will not engage in battle with foreign ones and Russia will not be drawn into the war.


On the materials of the sites:
http://ria.ru/
http://itar-tass.com/
http://interfax.ru/
http://rus.ruvr.ru/
http://bbc.co.uk/
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  1. +24
    13 September 2013 07: 12
    Why why? So that the Americans had something to think about. I am not enthusiastic about the Assad regime, but the more he kills these bearded bastards, the easier it will be for us to live. Nobody will fight for Syria, but it’s quite possible to provide target designation for the Yakhonts. Now is not 1999 year.
    1. +96
      13 September 2013 07: 21
      Quote: Kibalchish
      I'm not thrilled with the Assad regime

      what are your complaints, you can ask? laughing
      1. Natalia
        +33
        13 September 2013 09: 17
        This is wonderful, do not be shy to support Syria. Yeah, who would have thought, 10-12 years ago, that such a thing would be possible fellow We have grown so much that we can interfere with the Americans, in my opinion, the result of the revival of the fleet in the face. This is wonderful ... Of course, there will not be any war between the United States and Russia, but the fact of such a demonstration of power, he cannot but rejoice.
        1. elvira
          +14
          13 September 2013 15: 49
          Russia and Iran support Syria .. The rest are shy ....
          Quote: Natalia
          do not be shy
          1. +3
            13 September 2013 20: 36
            I’ll get in here, in the raspberry, in the women's battalion. Natalia, Elvira ... It’s a pity there is no Thundering today, like her branch, that is the topic. So, girls, are we going to fight between us? How is your mood? Ready to wet the vaunted marines?
            1. elvira
              +7
              14 September 2013 09: 52
              Quote: aksakal
              So, girls, are we going to fight between us? How is your mood? Ready to wet the vaunted marines?

              No, my dear, women are opponents of war (for myself, of course, I answer)! God grant that you do not have to resolve the conflict by force and "kill" someone. But arrogance to knock the Americans off is a good thing. I hope that the issue will still be resolved diplomatically. This will be a double victory for our country.
              1. Quiet
                0
                15 September 2013 13: 48
                No, my dear, women are opponents of a warrior

                ... Well, when for you beautiful guys squatters break ... ????
                1. elvira
                  +1
                  18 September 2013 15: 37
                  Quote: Quiet
                  Well, when for you beautiful guys squatters break ... ????


                  Do you think the whales in Syria are breaking because of women now? laughing
        2. -3
          17 September 2013 18: 58
          Well, yes, a revival ..... I would like to see something newer under the Russian flag in the oceans ... Tactical tasks in this area are still capable of fulfilling our formation, but unfortunately, it really affect the fighting unable! Yes, and our SUPERBOY PRESIDENT, in my opinion, just has a thin gut to order the combat use of the forces and means of the Navy in this conflict.
          1. Kasyanov Sergey
            +2
            17 September 2013 19: 48
            This is YOUR gut
          2. 0
            18 September 2013 20: 18
            Quote: DS22
            Well, yes, a revival ..... I would like to see something newer under the Russian flag in the oceans ... Tactical tasks in this area are still capable of fulfilling our formation, but unfortunately, it really affect the fighting unable! Yes, and our SUPERBOY PRESIDENT, in my opinion, just has a thin gut to order the combat use of the forces and means of the Navy in this conflict.


            you probably just made a mistake with the forum
            here it is advisable to think first, and then poke the keys.
            1. 0
              19 September 2013 01: 15
              My opinion is that the forum should be objective, otherwise it loses its meaning.
      2. 0
        14 September 2013 12: 42
        but the fact that we need Assad so far - but the crisis will end, how will he behave?
      3. +2
        17 September 2013 15: 53
        I'm not thrilled with the Assad regime
        ... and you, by chance, do not have Obama's last name? laughing
    2. +9
      13 September 2013 07: 21
      Well, like, "We'll threaten the Swede from here!" Well, the personnel should be skated in a situation as close as possible to a combat situation. However, why do supply vessels and tugs in the picture ?!
      1. +13
        13 September 2013 08: 02
        What do you mean why"? To show the Kremlin's militaristic aspirations. There, apart from Panteleev, there is no significant unit. Even PM-138 was drawn - I remember it from the 80s of the lieutenant's years, probably in Tartus it was welded to the pier so that it would not sink. If they draw tugs and transports, it means that the whaleboats scurrying between the ships are ready to show under the flag of the Russian Navy - they say, you see what kind of armada Putin sent against our small cruisers, frigates and nuclear submarines.
        1. +10
          13 September 2013 08: 31
          But what about the picture with the ships, why there are Amer’s submarines, but ours aren’t ????? Secretly clear, then there is nothing to draw the balance of power.
          1. ed65b
            +21
            13 September 2013 09: 30
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            But what about the picture with the ships, why there are Amer’s submarines, but ours aren’t ????? Secretly clear, then there is nothing to draw the balance of power.

            Sanya, Amer’s boats afloat and ours are under water, how do you know how many there are? laughing
            1. 0
              19 September 2013 16: 54
              Like "it" doesn't sink?)))
        2. +22
          13 September 2013 08: 32
          At the same time, Russian sailors can be not only silent observers, but also informants.


          And they can, on completely legitimate grounds, shoot down American cruise missiles that fly dangerously close to Russian warships ...
          1. 0
            13 September 2013 09: 02
            What kind of law is this?
            1. +22
              13 September 2013 09: 39
              Quote: Dangerous
              What kind of law is this?

              Convention on the law of the sea and on the open sea, as well as the law on the defense of the Russian Federation, the charter of the Russian Navy.
        3. Kubanets
          +10
          13 September 2013 18: 32
          Sadly. In the late 80s he worked on the tanker "Marshal Biryuzov" to support the 5th Mediterranean flotilla. Then there was power. But now it hurts to watch
          1. bubble82009
            +2
            14 September 2013 00: 23
            totally agree with you. The KChF Museum has a map with the presence of our ships in the Mediterranean. in power was
            1. Kubanets
              0
              23 September 2013 14: 02
              So there were two supply points. And for each detachment up to 15 ships
      2. transbiz-ka
        +6
        13 September 2013 10: 58
        Dear, I’m a self-military motorist. And I want to say that in a convoy of normal commanders and commanders, there must always be present, if not means to provide maintenance and repair, then at least evacuation ...
      3. +4
        13 September 2013 11: 51
        but because while this is so, unfortunately our fleet is not young, and the autonomy is fraught with breakdowns, alas, this is a fact.
      4. 0
        18 September 2013 16: 04
        Quote: Civil
        Well, like, "We'll threaten the Swede from here!" Well, the personnel should be skated in a situation as close as possible to a combat situation. However, why do supply vessels and tugs in the picture ?!

        Turn on your imagination, and you will immediately understand everything. They carry anti-aircraft and anti-aircraft missiles there. And ships of the type of the flagship guards missile cruiser of the Black Sea Fleet "Moskva" will guard the naval group and at the same time serve as early warning centers for missile launches and departures of American aviation groups. For ground (in Syria) anti-aircraft and strike missile systems. The personnel of which will not be able to be identified as Russian military personnel, which means they will not be able to strike a preemptive strike against Russia. soldier
    3. +15
      13 September 2013 10: 45
      Generally interesting, And how do you like this idea? What if our ships begin to destroy flying tomahawks? After all, firstly, this is a free target, secondly, whether anyone will present a claim to shoot it down, and thirdly, this is a good practice for sailors. Unshot targets will finish off the Syrian air defense.
      AND! It’s a very interesting idea - to tell us that any launch of a rocket in the direction of a Russian ship will immediately be retaliatory ... for the aggressor!

      This is just an assumption, what if?
      1. +2
        13 September 2013 14: 41
        drinks drinks drinks hi
        100%, class!
      2. -3
        16 September 2013 00: 19
        Quote: sancho
        Generally interesting, And how do you like this idea? What if our ships begin to destroy flying tomahawks? After all, firstly, this is a free target, secondly, whether anyone will present a claim to shoot it down, and thirdly, this is a good practice for sailors. Unshot targets will finish off the Syrian air defense.
        AND! It’s a very interesting idea - to tell us that any launch of a rocket in the direction of a Russian ship will immediately be retaliatory ... for the aggressor!

        This is just an assumption, what if?


        As soon as they begin to destroy the tomahawks, they themselves will immediately turn into free targets. I hope that the leadership of the army understands this and the tasks are different except for collecting information.
      3. +1
        18 September 2013 16: 16
        Quote: sancho
        Generally interesting, And how do you like this idea? What if our ships start destroying flying tomahawks?

        Do you want to start a world war? Do you really believe that the destruction of the Tomogavks from Russian ships will go unnoticed and unpunished? lol
        For any such action there should be a serious justification and an even more serious cover. Read my post on top.
      4. 0
        18 September 2013 18: 59
        Quote: sancho
        It’s a very interesting idea - to tell us that any launch of a rocket in the direction of a Russian ship will immediately be retaliatory ... for the aggressor!

        It is tempting to practice, of course. Such an idea already existed. But as you imagine, declare the United States its intention to shoot down their missiles. On what basis? Before launching missiles, their ships will take up such positions when the flight path of the rocket will pass away from our ships. In addition, the United States will almost certainly warn the command of the Russian fleet that Russian ships are not the target of the attack. Russia and Syria do not have an agreement on mutual military assistance, and the opening of fire by the Russian fleet located in the territorial waters of Syria on US missiles will be regarded as armed intervention and attack on the us fleet. The balance of power, to put it mildly, is strongly not in our favor. Lose the squadron due to several downed rockets? I fully support you, in terms of assistance to Syria, but so far the maximum that we can do is to fix missile launches and warn the Syrians. hi
    4. -13
      13 September 2013 11: 03
      I’m what I think probably not all Russian captains were squinting and some may have some problems at home and now imagine this situation amers begin to stomp Syria everything flies overhead and everything is cocked and from home comes an order not to intervene and here’s one of the Russians the captains decide how much you can endure already and plant the amers on the nimitz in response, the rest of the Russians see that they are killing and getting into the slaughter AND THERE TELL ME WHAT WILL BE NEXT?
      Quote: Kibalchish
      Why why? So that the Americans had something to think about. I am not enthusiastic about the Assad regime, but the more he kills these bearded bastards, the easier it will be for us to live. Nobody will fight for Syria, but it’s quite possible to provide target designation for the Yakhonts. Now is not 1999 year.
      1. +9
        13 September 2013 16: 22
        vjhbc
        Who gave you the right to decide that one of the Russian captains was squinting at all (although you hypocritically assume that not all are possible)? Your twisted conscience? Or are these the consequences of oligophrenia? I don’t know who you are by nationality, I don’t think so, since it is unlikely that any people will consider theirs to be the one who was squinting ... with which I congratulate you ....
        1. -3
          13 September 2013 19: 27
          smile
          it is true that you think that the army is separate from the people and everything is fine there; all the great guys are fine with them and they have not succumbed to the contagion of consumption and the perpetrators do not care syndrome. about nationality, teach heraldry to recognize flags. and the rest is on your conscience. in general, koment needs to be read to the end and think a little before answering indignantly
          1. +11
            14 September 2013 00: 24
            vjhbc
            Your very harsh statement elicited a very harsh response. I read it carefully. And the text outraged me. Undoubtedly, the statement "the people and the army are one" is true in every sense, and in that. what you just said, too. But the fact that the commanders of the ships of our Navy do not start without orders, at their discretion, I do not see any signs of warping ... and I consider such statements to be an insult to our sailors, even kill them.
            Yes, I re-read my comment, it fell disproportionately from the neck, I apologize ... but you should also correct your statement.
            1. +7
              14 September 2013 00: 43
              Quote: smile
              But the fact that the commanders of the ships of our Navy do not start without orders,

              Hello toothy drinks Someone Kuznetsov, a man and the Tavkr, at one time gave the order to comply with the ship's charter, and under certain conditions there are no instructions from above request laughing
              1. +1
                15 September 2013 00: 25
                Ruslan67
                Hello myself! .. no less toothy ... also clawed :))) I heard about these cases, to be honest, only out of the corner of my ear ... but I think he did not mean these cases ... although, on the guy, of course, I drove so hard in vain - a couple of minutes before - I just barked with one nationalist who argued that cowardice is a national trait of the Russian character and was seriously angry, I go here and see "sss-skipping Russian commanders" - and hi-the bar fell :))) ... but I have already repented ... :)))
            2. 0
              18 September 2013 19: 06
              Quote: smile
              But the fact that the commanders of the ships of our Navy do not start without orders, at their discretion, military operations

              I agree with you, and there are no idiots among our captains. And to start World War III, on my personal impulse, in my opinion, the top of idiocy.
          2. Current 72
            +3
            14 September 2013 01: 47
            I’m Belarusian, I put you - (minus), think why.
            1. -1
              15 September 2013 00: 27
              Current 72
              Thank. As far as possible I compensate for the disadvantages that someone for some reason put you.
          3. Batman
            +3
            14 September 2013 22: 19
            We have excellent officers, captains of fleets !, who put Honor, Motherland above all else ... And I agree with Smile, it is an insult to declare who the captain is capable of attacking an "expected friend" or "probable enemy" at his whim
      2. +3
        13 September 2013 16: 48
        I apologize for the clarification, but on ships - commanders, and captains on ships.
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    5. +2
      13 September 2013 11: 33
      Targeting means highlighting the target with a special locator. If your ship began to be highlighted in this way, then something is already flying in you, or it will fly. This act is a direct participation in hostilities on a certain side, and that is how it will be interpreted. The captain of the opposite side receives the right to eliminate the threat by force of arms, and will be right, and everyone understands this. So if, according to Putin, we will not fight, we will also not highlight anything. Illuminate the air situation - yes, warn about launches - yes, transmit the coordinates of the ships - most likely yes. Interference is most likely not. Otherwise, soon some kind of Georgia will shell our ships illuminated by the Americans.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        +9
        13 September 2013 12: 13
        The presence of our ships is one of the main deterrents to US aggression against Syria. And our ships have the right to shoot missiles if they fly in their direction and can pose a potential threat to our ships - it was not for nothing that the exercises were conducted recently with firing - the article was about this in VO.
        1. bif
          +36
          13 September 2013 12: 55
          I agree with you completely, I’ll only clarify - for reasons of defense, our ships can be shot down, being outside the territorial waters of Syria, in order to maintain neutrality.
          But this is still lyrics about a POSSIBLE future.
          But about the present - 7 BDK from the whole group, as the author observes, is not simple and I want to share extremely interesting information.
          "... Some details of Putin's conversation with Obama are becoming known. So, the proposal to transfer the Syrian chemical weapons under the control of the international community came from Putin, and today Putin does not hide it. Lavrov is modest and says that this is supposedly" not entirely Russian. proposal ", it is clear that the Russian side is simply saving Obama, and he was glad of this turn of events, but when he heard that in return, as a deterrent, Russia would provide air defense systems to Assad, this led Obama to that very sadness. the task was to take the lukewarm Assad and, having removed chemical weapons from Syria, Obama considered the task completed, but when he learned that in return the Syrian sky would be unapproachable, the sadness and longing in his “goiter stole his breath.” In the end, what is happening - can be considered the lesser of evils.

          In fact, this only worsened the position of the United States and complicated the task for the Pentagon. All the risks of the Pentagon were still on the ground, that is, if American soldiers do not go to Syria, then chemical. weapons are powerless against them. But if, instead of sarin, Syria has the latest air defense, then the danger is no longer only during a ground invasion, but also during air attacks. In fact, Putin hobbled Obama lovingly and tenderly. Without air raids, no one would dare to send American troops to Syria. Here it is, the famous Putin overstag! On the one hand, he seems to be inferior, but on the other hand, his adversary sees that the situation has only worsened for him ... it is said that Russia is transporting weapons to Syria not only on its warships, which all come to the shores of Syria, but so also uses civilian ships "http://www.contrpost.com/ru/78-2013-05-10-13-45-19/3334-obstruktsiya-po-chernomu
    6. AVV
      +4
      13 September 2013 13: 47
      What? The Saudi regime would be better ??? I think hardly! Such a regime was in Egypt in the person of Muslim brothers and where is it now ???
  2. +20
    13 September 2013 07: 18
    Naturally, there can be no participation of Russia in the Syrian conflict. Let's be realistic, this is called a flag show. Of course, in the event of an attack on Syria, all information about missile launches, take-offs of planes will be transmitted to the Syrians, but no more. If the US fleet receives an order to strike at the Syrians, they will strike regardless of whether there are ships of the Russian Federation or not. NATO aircraft of these ships. Any rash action can lead to a war between the USA and the Russian Federation, and no one will allow this.
    1. +10
      13 September 2013 08: 32
      Quote: xetai9977
      Naturally, there can be no participation of Russia in the Syrian conflict.

      Unless, under American bombs, our citizens, who are not few there, will not die. Further, the scenario is not predictable.
      1. series
        +6
        13 September 2013 10: 01
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Unless, under American bombs, our citizens, who are not few there, will not die. Further, the scenario is not predictable

        In the event of aggression against Syria, no one can forbid us to deploy several full-fledged mobile regiments of military and object air defense (of course with our specialists).
        It is quite reasonable to do this after the first NATO strikes on the Syrian air defenses (replenish as losses). But NOT BEFORE BEFORE! Therefore, there are so many large landing ships with full holds of "humanitarian aid" ... wink
        And also to supply additionally Iskander-E and Smerch strike missile systems, anti -arable cruise missiles ...
        SUCH forces of the Russian Navy (with the killer of aircraft carriers "Moscow") of the Russian Federation are concentrated not at all for "observation" functions (two reconnaissance ships are enough for this)!
        So your colleagues, from sovereign Caspian sea powers, your poorly hidden skepticism about the ability of the Russian Navy in confronting the NATO Navy - is not motivated by anything ...
        The facts say otherwise ....
        1. Strong
          0
          15 September 2013 19: 06
          Quote: S-200
          Quote: eplewke
          Who is stopping us from shooting down Amer’s axes? Sounds fantastic, but what if?

          No fiction! Missiles attacking a warship will be downed whenever possible!
          WITHOUT any doubt and hesitation ....
          A ship is a sovereign territory of Russia subjected to a missile attack!
          Any questions ???


          There is. One. Explain how axes can threaten ships? It is hard to argue, there used to be one species of the ax-like family, for work on ships. Yes, with the collapse of the Union, they altered it into land tactical axes.
        2. -1
          16 September 2013 00: 34
          Quote: S-200
          The facts suggest otherwise ...


          What facts suggest otherwise.

          To be honest, even during the USSR, the alignment of forces at sea was far from in our favor, not to mention the current state of the Russian Navy.
          Any sane person understands that we will lose any conflict with the NATO bloc outside our borders. And the participation of our specialists and the supply of weapons during the acute phase of the confrontation is a direct participation in the conflict with all the disastrous consequences for us.
      2. +1
        13 September 2013 11: 21
        Seriously? What kind of weather do you have in America?
        1. +4
          13 September 2013 14: 46
          Fucking weather, and not enough in diapers pharmacies .... wassat
    2. +10
      13 September 2013 09: 22
      Quote: xetai9977
      Any rash action can lead to a war between the US and the Russian Federation, and no one will allow this.

      You are confusing cause and effect. The "rash action" is primarily related to US actions. "Demonstration of the flag" of the Russian Federation is a reciprocal move "with a knight in defense of a pawn". The next move is for the United States, and here is the dilemma, whether to go for a rash action or not, something suggests that in the zone of responsibility of the Russian fleet, they will not do anything. The point here is to use only such "peaceful" steps that would not lead to an armed conflict between the US and the Russian Federation; a different solution is unacceptable not only for the Russian Federation, but also for the United States. Or do you think that the USA is not on friendly terms with the logic?
    3. eplewke
      +2
      13 September 2013 09: 43
      But under international law, the Captain of the ship can decide to shoot down enemy KRs if they threaten the safety of the ship or are in close proximity. Who is stopping us from shooting down Amer’s axes? Sounds fantastic, but what if?
      1. series
        +13
        13 September 2013 10: 20
        Quote: eplewke
        Who is stopping us from shooting down Amer’s axes? Sounds fantastic, but what if?

        No fiction! Missiles attacking a warship will be downed whenever possible!
        WITHOUT any doubt and hesitation ....
        A ship is a sovereign territory of Russia subjected to a missile attack!
        Any questions ???
        1. +8
          13 September 2013 10: 54
          Quote: S-200
          No fiction! Missiles attacking a warship will be downed whenever possible!
          WITHOUT any doubt and hesitation ....
          A ship is a sovereign territory of Russia subjected to a missile attack!
          Any questions ???

          And moreover, in order to not have consequences like an erroneous retaliatory strike from the Russian Navy, the Americans are obliged to warn about the start of hostilities in advance, indicate the area of ​​hostilities and offer to leave it, i.e. surprise factor is lost.
          1. 0
            18 September 2013 19: 56
            Quote: igor36
            must warn of the start of hostilities in advance, indicate the area of ​​hostilities and offer to leave, i.e. surprise factor is lost.

            The surprise factor has long been lost.
      2. +8
        13 September 2013 15: 19
        Quote: eplewke
        But under international law, the captain of the ship can decide to shoot down enemy KR

        Yes, forget about the rights of any international. There is no them in fact for a long time !!! Like the captains on the ships. There is the right of the strong. And the ship has a commander! Lawyers, damn it ...
    4. +6
      13 September 2013 09: 49
      It is not an unimportant fact that this American strike will no longer be unexpected for the Syrians thanks to the control of the situation by our ships, which means that it is possible to avoid large losses in the first hours, and this I think annoys the NATO too, and some, having realized, refused to participate. Plus, there’s no need to chase the American ships and boats to collect data, and all kinds of boats create additional noise, which means interference with boats, so that’s also a plus. What kind of sonar mess is happening there!
      1. series
        +5
        13 September 2013 12: 26
        Quote: mhpv
        It is not an unimportant fact that this American strike will no longer be unexpected for the Syrians thanks to the control of the situation by our ships, which means that it is possible to avoid large losses in the early hours, and this I think is also annoying to the NATO people, realizing that they refused to participate

        Thus, the Syrian mobile air defense systems can (and should) organize a flexible, maneuverable, timely air defense out of attack! The blow will mainly fall on stationary objects ...
        Well, in response, the Syrian special forces will arrange the promised "naughty" in the metropolis ...
        turning the snickering American society into a panicky herd of crazies mad in congestion ...
        That's why Obama has such a "lowered" look ...
        1. +3
          13 September 2013 15: 07
          If the Syrian cargo ship with clubs approaches New York, the United States of the mattress will remember that to fight is to risk not only other people's lives.
        2. -1
          13 September 2013 18: 17
          Quote: S-200
          snickering american society


          In a word BIGMAKI or HAMBURGERS
          1. 0
            14 September 2013 19: 48
            Very junk food.
        3. +1
          14 September 2013 20: 58
          Quote: S-200
          the Syrian special forces will arrange the promised "nix" in the metropolis ...

          Adults, like people, but believe in fairy tales ...
    5. 0
      13 September 2013 11: 18
      and how it will not allow if someone has a head over
      1. 0
        13 September 2013 20: 27
        Quote: vjhbc
        and how it will not allow if someone has a head over

        More precisely, at whom it pereklinitsya?
    6. Kubanets
      +2
      13 September 2013 19: 17
      To pursue a policy of "gunboats" you need to have them. Let's admit our fleet is on the verge of developing a resource
  3. MilaPhone
    +27
    13 September 2013 07: 20
    Another ship joined.
    The patrol ship of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation "Smetlivy" left on Thursday 12.09.13 from Sevastopol to the Mediterranean Sea. Before that, the Ukrainian customs detained him for more than three hours. The customs officers re-formed the lists of the entire crew, checked the documents, asked many questions, as if they were deliberately dragging out time.
    1. +42
      13 September 2013 07: 45
      Ukrainians in relation to Russia never sit on the ass forever, you always need to do minor dirty tricks, like Shopoklyak. It seems like neighbors are also taken, but either envious over the top (that Russia solves world problems, but nobody pays attention to them), or xs what else ...
      1. MilaPhone
        +24
        13 September 2013 07: 59
        I think that in this case it is not so much a dirty trick of Russia as a curtsy to the West. Like we are doing everything we can, take us to Europe.
        1. +11
          13 September 2013 08: 59
          Well, yes, as "help" in Georgia
          "But" They (the customs officers) began to re-form the lists of the entire crew, looked through all the documents, asked questions, it seems as if the process was artificially delayed, "the source said. According to him," Sharp-witted "had to leave Sevastopol for nine in the morning local time, but at noon the ship "has not even started the main engine and has not begun preparations for going to sea." The source stressed that "such delays" in his practice have not yet been. "
          Meanwhile, in early September, a protracted dispute between the Black Sea Fleet and Ukrainian customs escalated. The discussions concerned the tax on goods that are supplied for the life of the fleet. The Russian side (which currently pays both VAT and customs duties when importing similar products into Ukraine) insists that payments are levied illegally. Kiev, in turn, argues that the Black Sea Fleet has no reason to use the benefits.
          http://www.versii.com/news/286776/
          1. +11
            13 September 2013 10: 57
            For some reason, I’m sure that Shtat’s ships, when leaving their foreign naval bases, are not subject to such executions. Why then do the Russian naval commanders of the Black Sea Fleet allow themselves to be mocked at this?
          2. Украинец
            -6
            15 September 2013 23: 50
            ... At a speed, the "Kharkov agreements" are denounced ... and by 2017, welcome ... "with things on the way out" .... You rent 18 hectares for a penny ... (000 million bucks) ... .for three times less area "amers" pay the Germans a billion bucks ... Get out ... or pay as expected ...
            1. +4
              16 September 2013 03: 03
              Quote: Ukrainian
              ... At a speed, the "Kharkov agreements" are denounced ... and by 2017, welcome ... "with things on the way out" .... You rent 18 hectares for a penny ... (000 million bucks) ... .for three times less area "amers" pay the Germans a billion bucks ... Get out ... or pay as expected ...

              Do you want the Crimean Guantanamo? laughing
        2. Phase
          +6
          13 September 2013 15: 13
          Quote: Milafon
          I think that in this case it is not so much a dirty trick of Russia as a curtsy to the West. Like we are doing everything we can, take us to Europe.

          I think it’s not necessary to hang all dogs on Ukrainians. I am absolutely convinced that the delay of 3 hours was purely technical and was due simply to gouging as common in Ukraine as we are.
          It is unlikely that this was done intentionally - a three-hour delay will not affect the time of arrival of the ship to its destination, except that the speed in the way will have to be increased and fuel used up. But only that.
      2. +11
        13 September 2013 10: 17
        Quote: Dangerous
        like Shopoklyak


        Yes, it’s already disgusting just because of this. Here you sit and break yourself and try to convince yourself that Ukrainians are friends, brothers and, in general, the people of Ukraine are friendly to us, and then such news comes. And so every time. I do not want to, of course, but soon I will spit on these self-persuasions.
        1. 0
          18 September 2013 20: 03
          Quote: Manager
          Here you sit yourself breaking and trying to convince yourself that Ukrainians are friends, brothers and, in general, the people of Ukraine are friendly to us,

          And they are struggling to convince us otherwise. request
      3. Mikola
        -41
        13 September 2013 11: 47
        you are strange, you want to wage a trade war, not to fulfill signed agreements and not have reciprocal dirty tricks. Ukraine has its own "world" problems, get it and get it. And Russia itself creates many world problems out of the blue. Do you think the Assad regime will hold out for a long time?) But Russia will spend a lot of money on this regime, although the result is known in advance.
        1. Vrungel78
          +16
          13 September 2013 13: 56
          Mykola. Our watchman just out of respect stopped at your customs. And so he could send tries and swim further.
          1. Украинец
            -2
            16 September 2013 00: 21
            ... So let him send ... why be ashamed ... and we will "send" you faster than 2017 ...
        2. +6
          13 September 2013 14: 51
          BALL! YOU ARE BALBES! am am am
        3. bif
          +25
          13 September 2013 15: 05
          But Russia will spend a lot of money on this regime, although the result is known in advance.
          The fact that Russia will spend or spent on Syria will BACK in full, but what was spent on Ukraine-consider the toilet down.
        4. +3
          14 September 2013 06: 57
          Well, if you can in more detail, someone does not perform ??? it’s you who are always trying constantly to treat hemorrhoid with the tongue of Europe, but it turns out badly, you see a rough language !!
        5. DJEIN8
          0
          14 September 2013 23: 20
          What should he put cons ... Mikola he is Mikola ......
          It is difficult to expect prudence, depth of understanding of the situation in the world, responsibility for what is said to oneself and others when the main are OWN "world" problems and their main component is financial costs ..........
        6. Украинец
          -4
          15 September 2013 23: 56
          ... But this is how they have ... "controlled democracy" ... as I want, so ... u ... We will spit in your face, and you bow down ... Let them collect monatas ... get out of Crimea ... We'll hand it over to the Americans for a billion ... let them use it ... even for money ...
      4. +4
        13 September 2013 14: 49
        Unfortunately, you are right, sir ..... crying
        1. Jake danzels
          -12
          13 September 2013 17: 24
          How bad we are, you are up to us with a pure heart, and we are ... scared.
      5. -9
        13 September 2013 17: 11
        Respected! According to the constitution of Ukraine - Ukraine is an off-block neutral state. Using the leased ports as a bridgehead in hostilities against other countries, the tenant (in this case, Russia) automatically draws Ukraine into the hostilities. From here and such a delight in the use of warships deployed in the Crimea. Want to fight, move forward from Novorossiysk or from somewhere else. Nobody has yet canceled international law and the opponent (be it Georgia or the NATO bloc) of the tenant (in this case, and so far Russia) has the full right to deliver both a preemptive and a retaliatory strike.
        1. bif
          +10
          13 September 2013 18: 17
          Ukraine is an off-block neutral state dear heart, if it were like that, it wouldn’t arm Georgia in front of 08.08.08 and our planes wouldn’t knock it off with Ukrainian military personnel .... so say thank you that Ukraine is still a state ... and even with the Constitution .
          1. -18
            13 September 2013 18: 35
            Quote: bif
            it wouldn’t have armed Georgia before 08.08.08 and HAD BEEN NOT BEATED

            1. The sale of defensive weapons is purely a matter of two states.
            Quote: bif
            with Ukrainian military personnel our planes ....

            Watch your mercenaries we ourselves will somehow deal with ours. Yours even fought in Chechnya against your own.
            Quote: bif
            . so say thanks that Ukraine is still a state

            1. They didn’t drink at the Brudershaft.
            2. In Ukraine, 48 million people. The Russian Federation washed in blood from Chechnya from 3 million. Do you want the next president to have a surname ending in -CO?))))
            1. VDV 80-82
              +3
              13 September 2013 19: 19
              and how many of the 48 million Russians? and direct all of these milenas to Russia to protect the Kinutstso Square?)))))
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              2. -9
                13 September 2013 19: 45
                In Chechnya there were 3 million. there, too, not all "rushed" - think.
                1. 0
                  19 September 2013 18: 12
                  Bot are you. Selected the best example to prick more painfully? If people die, then more often they are innocent. You rejoice at your mind, God sees everything.
              3. German
                +1
                16 September 2013 00: 04
                As in my opinion, the German view is definitely from the realm of science fiction! In any case, the provinces (regions) of which are historically Little Russia! ... I think so!
            2. bif
              +19
              13 September 2013 20: 32
              1. no need to break the phrase ... your staff units of "neutral" air defense fought on the side of Georgia, and this is not a sale and mercenaries have nothing to do with it, if we are not talking about the UPA ...
              2. RF washed in Chechnya with blood... not for you to judge.
              3: Sudan is supplying the Syrian opposition using first the territory of Qatar and then Turkey ... Air traffic control in the region stated that at least three Ukrainian companies flew this year from Khartoum, the capital of Sudan, to airfield in western Turkey near the Syrian border
              Read more here: http://www.unian.net/news/589515-smi-sudan-postavlyaet-orujie-siriyskim-boevikam
              -aviatsiey-pod-ukrainskim-flagom.html
              4. Soon all the nasty things will come back to you and everything that was before that will be flowers.
              1. -8
                14 September 2013 01: 00
                Quote: bif
                your staff units of "neutral" air defense fought on the side of Georgia, but this is not a sale and the mercenaries have nothing to do with it either

                What units defensive We want to sell weapons. Our problems.
                Quote: bif
                if it’s not about UPA ...

                Not everyone loves these and ours.
                Quote: bif
                2. The Russian Federation washed in Chechnya with blood ... not for you to judge.

                Well, it’s not for you to judge our actions in your state and its interests.
                Quote: bif
                3: Sudan is supplying the Syrian opposition using first the territory of Qatar and then Turkey ... Air traffic control in the region stated that at least three Ukrainian companies flew this year from Khartoum, the capital of Sudan, to airfield in western Turkey near the Syrian border

                So what? Civilian vessels are not entitled to transport military goods. There are claims of the official Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the UN and other tales of your media purely Your problems.
                Quote: bif
                4. Soon all the nasty things will come back to you and everything that was before that will be flowers.

                No comments. hang out the bottom imperk to your face.

                Z.Y. not in one of his posts I was not the first to show aggression already from 3 (THIRD) interlocutor I hear угрозы to my country. Do I still think we're brothers?
                1. Current 72
                  +8
                  14 September 2013 02: 16
                  You DO NOT judge Russia for actions in Chechnya. There was a struggle for the integrity of Russian territory and a fight against Wahhabi terrorists. The truth is to blame Yeltsin for his statement: take sovereignty as much as you can carry.
                  1. -10
                    14 September 2013 02: 32
                    Quote: Current 72
                    You DO NOT judge Russia for actions in Chechnya.

                    Well, then hands and desires away from my country. By the way, at least I would change the flag in my comments.
                    Quote: Current 72
                    The truth is Yeltsin to blame

                    And Carla’s dad, right?
                    Quote: Current 72
                    And so not for you

                    Exactly your level. You’re not worth much. From others, at least the arguments were worthy. Wipe up saliva - put the desired flag - EVERYTHING IS EQUAL TROLEMS WILL STAY =))))
                    1. 0
                      18 September 2013 11: 23
                      This is let your newly-minted Ukrainians, thieves and traitors, swept out of the Crimea! My city was founded as the base of the Russian fleet and has remained to them now. And so it will be, while there will be at least one Sevastopolite in the city on his feet. Your Ukrainians are foreigners here!
                2. Bogdarin
                  +2
                  14 September 2013 20: 37
                  As there Brother (Danila Bagrov from the film of the same name) said - a rhinoceros is your brother, sly. Ukraine is NOT your country, but of the UKRAINIAN people, and you, a Bendera citizen, is not finished. As one of the members of the forum rightly said, ANY Russian ship could pass by all your customs offices on the way, but no - ours comply with the laws and rules generally accepted by the world community. You better check out the "work off" of someone else's gas from OUR pipes, and where is "the official Foreign Ministry, the UN and other fairy tales?
                  1. Bogdarin
                    +3
                    14 September 2013 20: 39
                    before "sly" there should be the word "G" n "and" d "a"
                  2. -2
                    15 September 2013 14: 01
                    In addition to insults, essentially nothing to say? Of the 4 who answered from 2 rudeness and from 3 threats towards the integrity of the country, if you like mine too I am part of this very Ukrainian people.
                    Well, well, Russians are looking further at the level of development.
                    1. Украинец
                      -2
                      16 September 2013 00: 26
                      ... This is the average "level of development" of the average Russian .... "alcoholism, parasitism, playing the balalaika .... take everything and share" ... they care about "world problems" ... but themselves piss past the toilet ... and catch fleas with their teeth ...
                    2. 0
                      18 September 2013 11: 32
                      what kind of people? and Crimeans are not people? your country is a mistake of nature, a stillborn child, created only with the aim of harming Russia. so also Crimea got this unfinished. your Ukraine was never in Crimea, in fact, never will be!
                  3. German
                    +3
                    16 September 2013 00: 18
                    ББЛЛ .... ТЬ! How dreary to read your likes (not the Internet meaning of the word) Guys! We are one people! Well, do not be like politicians! Yes, everyone has scum. Damn ... there are no words further!
              2. Украинец
                -3
                16 September 2013 00: 50
                ... Soon the words will be spoken ... but not soon things will be done ... this is all from Russian fairy tales ... the belligerent Emelyas on armored furnaces ... So what if ours trained in Georgia? ... So what? ..We are not ashamed ... especially since you have weighed the "dirty tricks" for 350 years up to our throats ... And mind you .. these were "Buki" ... and not s-300 ... come. .we still need to train the S-300 and S-200 ..
          2. Украинец
            -4
            16 September 2013 00: 36
            ..Ah, sorry ... Thank you .. We-trained ... excuse me generously ...
        2. VDV 80-82
          +11
          13 September 2013 19: 16
          I think that for the time being you are renting Crimea from Russia ... and soon the rental will end!
          1. -12
            13 September 2013 19: 46
            When it seems necessary to be baptized.
            But it does not seem to me that imperial ambitions sometimes go wild for some representatives of the Russian Federation. Especially in view of such messages.
            1. 0
              18 September 2013 11: 26
              I have been living here all my life and can roll one thing: Ukraine Crimea doesn’t need a damn, it’s a stranger here, it’s only harm from it, stench and garbage and lawlessness.
          2. IT
            IT
            +1
            13 September 2013 21: 10
            When it seems - it is necessary to be baptized.
          3. Украинец
            -6
            16 September 2013 00: 29
            ... Go to Gundyaev and get baptized ... so that it doesn’t seem .. Pi ... don’t toss the bags ...
        3. Current 72
          +7
          14 September 2013 02: 05
          Sevastopol RUSSIAN city, learn history, and the fact that Ukraine has taken it in its hands is temporary.
          1. -3
            14 September 2013 02: 36
            Quote: Current 72
            Sevastopol RUSSIAN city, learn history, and the fact that Ukraine has taken it in its hands is temporary.

            Change flag. Do not embarrass yourself! =)
            1. German
              +1
              16 September 2013 00: 21
              But he’s right about Sevastopol.
          2. -12
            14 September 2013 02: 51
            Quote: Current 72
            Sevastopol RUSSIAN city, learn history, and the fact that Ukraine has taken it in its hands is temporary.

            You at least put the flag in the Russian settings. And then honestly it’s already ridiculous to read the patriot of someone else’s damn country, albeit fraternal. Do you want me to even write how, otherwise it seems to me you're at school and yours is really bad with your head.
            I forgot where you live and what country you need to think about ... We can and with a computer it’s bad so it's nothing .... it’s not difficult at the level of five years you can. I hope .... =))))
        4. +6
          14 September 2013 06: 59
          if the moronic Khrushchev gave you the Crimea, this does not mean that he is yours !!!
          1. Украинец
            -4
            16 September 2013 00: 52
            ... Of course ... So the whole world thinks ...
        5. +2
          15 September 2013 09: 50
          Actually, I believe that Ukraine should give Russia Sevastopol as a base for life and for free, simply because Russia gave Crimea to Ukraine, conquered by Peter the Great.
          1. Украинец
            -5
            16 September 2013 00: 33
            ... Now we will cry ... from feelings ... "Give everyone ... the bed will break" ... And if we don't? Then Shaw? .... World War III? ...
            1. MG42
              +2
              16 September 2013 03: 14
              Quote: Ukrainian
              ... from feelings ... "Give everyone ... the bed will break."

              Self-critical is how .. wassat

              Quote: Ukrainian
              In speed the "Kharkov agreements" are denounced ... and welcome to 2017.

              How, if they are ratified by the parliaments of the two countries?
        6. Украинец
          -6
          16 September 2013 00: 02
          ... Yes, do not "strain" like that! ... Who is there to talk to? ... some narrow-minded people concerned about "world problems" .... it would be better to "attend" to the Far East or the Russian hinterland ..... What is there to argue ... Let them pack their suitcases ... and so that in 2017 there would be no spirit in Crimea ... to join NATO ... (for edification) demonstratively ... and force anti-missile defense elements in the Kharkiv region ... this will be "world problems" ...
          1. +8
            16 September 2013 03: 18
            Quote: Ukrainian
            and put elements of missile defense in

            Stavilka will not break? Are you losing your hands?
        7. 0
          18 September 2013 11: 37
          110 dollars pension - this is your country and your constitution. this is not a country, this is some shame.
      6. IT
        IT
        -4
        13 September 2013 21: 01
        What to envy? laughing
        Now, if pensions at the German level, or income from citizens, as in the Emirates.
        Of course, I wish Russia good luck in the geopolitical struggle with the United States. There are no reasons for envy here. This is the same as envying the Americans because of world domination and their arrogance.
      7. Украинец
        -3
        15 September 2013 23: 45
        ... "World problems" (?) ... need to have a snack ... Why the photo was "stretched"? To make it worse to watch? .... Tolya will still be .. You for us (Ukrainians) have been checking the cargo at the border for days ... so now ... are you surprised? ... We have your "world problems" to one place .... All the more ... that "amers" were laid on your ships .... Well, you can see it with the naked eye ...
    2. demeen1
      +11
      13 September 2013 07: 57
      They did not drag out time, it was out of brotherly love, suddenly it would be necessary to go to a foreign port, and there were errors in the documents. Only this comes from oneself or from whose clues.
      1. eplewke
        +6
        13 September 2013 09: 46
        What Hae do they even have the right to check our warships? On board is a sovereign state!
        1. Украинец
          -6
          16 September 2013 00: 34
          ... And we’ll put it in cancer ... if necessary .. we won’t check the current ...
          1. MG42
            +5
            16 September 2013 03: 05
            Quote: Ukrainian
            .And we’ll put it with cancer ... if necessary .. we won’t check the current

            Some kind of night "inadequate" appeared on the site .. fool
            Quote: Ukrainian
            and deploy missile defense elements in the Kharkiv region ... these will be "world problems" ...

            In order to put missile defense it is necessary to join Ukraine in NATO, but this is not realistic without re-equipping the Ukrainian army according to NATO standards, because there is no money with the Russian base in Sevastopol until 2042, and where in Kharkiv region? wassat lol locals will expel NATO warriors without a referendum ..
          2. +5
            16 September 2013 03: 06
            Quote: Ukrainian
            ... And we’ll put it in cancer ... if necessary .. we won’t check the current ...

            Have you framed your tuches already?
    3. eplewke
      +3
      13 September 2013 09: 44
      Nice ship. Powerful argument.
      1. Украинец
        -2
        16 September 2013 01: 13
        .... Just a little rusty ... and so .... wow ... th ...
    4. The Indian Joe
      +9
      13 September 2013 21: 22
      Or they pretended to be wasting time. What is three hours for a transition that will last many days? And Ukraine has always been distinguished by the desire to sit with one booty on two organs. Obviously, here she did not want to quarrel with the United States, which, perhaps, asked to detain the ships, but did not want to aggravate relations with Russia, on which it depends much more strongly. than from the States. So she pretended to "detain".
      1. +9
        14 September 2013 01: 00
        That is why we (all of us) and flutter with the domination of the Americans at sea, a weak economy (without a closed cycle), and therefore we go to rest for three nine lands and not to ourselves. Because we are swearing, but for what, is it really worth dividing Crimea, because it is someone's only on paper, and why should the borders be closed from Belarus or Ukraine or Russia? What disgusting it is, to go to dog because of nonsense, especially those who use real gas or Crimea are those in power, and certainly not us. These arguments are proof that we are still very weak. Is it really the arrogant old Europe or the cunning China that has become dearer to us? Ugh, no fleet and no European Union will save you if you bite with your family. You need to start raising your homeland from yourself. I am very sorry if one of my own people wants to fence off "My hut is on the edge, I don't know anything" and most importantly, I don't understand why? And sometimes one gets the impression that the politicians are children: "they seem to say right, but I'm independent, I will do it my own way, although not correctly."
      2. Украинец
        -3
        16 September 2013 01: 26
        You don’t only have to talk about the whole of Ukraine here .... Do you like to sit on two organs? ... So sit ..
    5. 0
      14 September 2013 19: 56
      Yes, the last ship from the "beautiful" series. OH, perhaps he was in Split together with submarine B-307 in December 1983? He seems to be.
  4. Valery Neonov
    +10
    13 September 2013 07: 25
    Quote: xetai9977
    Let's be realistic, this is called a flag show.

    And a fairly effective demonstration, you must agree, is not because the ships of the British Navy preferred to "dump" in a quiet way. Besides, missiles flying in the immediate vicinity of our ships can be shot down. hi
    1. +10
      13 September 2013 07: 50
      it is unlikely that the British ships were frightened by our fleet. Just a vote in England "against" was held about Syria, so they did not waste their energy and finances on the presence of the fleet in this region. He won't do anything anyway
      1. +12
        13 September 2013 07: 59
        I completely agree with Dangerous. The British Parliament has already banned the participation in the war. So why should they spend money? Every day the fleet spends a certain amount of money. Crisis on the nose. And besides, they are members of NATO, why would they be afraid?
        1. +18
          13 September 2013 08: 39
          But for some reason, in Libya, where there were no Russian ships, the same Khrenzuzy and Small-shanks bombed the "wrong" Gaddafi so beautifully ... I think they took revenge on him for the British liner shot down in the 80s and for other different things of the 80s - small revenge is just their style !!!

          And now, for some reason, the parliament didn’t allow it - and the last time they didn’t ask the parliament especially ... Nah - they smell Brita that this time they will not give a freebie - so they decided to sit out on their foggy Albion ...
          1. +7
            13 September 2013 15: 01
            They, I think, took revenge on him for a British liner shot down in the 80s and for other different things of the 80s - petty revenge is just in their style !!!


            Gaddafi knew a lot and his son "hinted" about this, and the French president "did not like it very much" (payment for the election of Sarkozy)
      2. bif
        +7
        13 September 2013 15: 18
        I will not argue, because the result is one THEIR PRESENCE IS MINIMUM.
        But how do you like this version.
        "... That is, no one can have any illusions about how Moscow will react to the West's military actions in Syria. It is clear to everyone that everyone who tries to" whip up the foam on shit "will" taste "it As strange as it may sound, but the first may go to Great Britain. Here Putin won't have to lift a finger. It's enough just to do nothing. As we all remember, British businessmen have great appetites for Russia and, in this regard, the British even They “humiliated” themselves to the point that they practically let go of the Litvinenko case, and the Internet immediately mucked Britain for falling under the “bloody” Russia.

        Now the widow of Litvinenko also knows that Putin is the kind of person who can change the brains of the British Prime Minister and throw the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Her Royal Highness like a banana skin. This is exactly what happened with David Miliband. Now Britain has just begun to establish the interests of its business in Russia. If Putin decides that British businessmen deserve it, he will do something to restore partnerships, but if Britain goes too far, then see what is said above: “Putin will not have to move a finger” ... http : //contrpost.com/en/78-2013-05-10-13-45-19/3319-ot-skoree-net-ch
        em-da-nazad-k-vryad-li
      3. pri3rak
        0
        13 September 2013 15: 36
        Come on? But it did not stop sending the Syrian opposition 20 million pounds.
    2. demeen1
      +2
      13 September 2013 08: 01
      Let's hope that this does not happen, but remains only a demonstration of the flag
    3. +4
      13 September 2013 09: 02
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      And quite an effective demonstration

      "At the moment, the permanent task force of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean Sea includes the large landing ships Peresvet, Admiral Nevelskoy, Minsk, Novocherkassk, Alexander Shabalin, the large anti-submarine ship Admiral Panteleev and the escort ship Fearless The guards missile cruiser Moskva (September 10 passed the Strait of Gibraltar) and the large landing ship Nikolai Filchenkov, which left Novorossiysk on September 11, are also heading for the eastern part of the sea. The grouping began to be strengthened after the US leadership announced a possible military intervention in the conflict in Syria (this, however, does not mean that Russian ships will be located off the coast of Syria or in its ports) "
      http://www.versii.com/news/286776/
  5. +14
    13 September 2013 07: 32
    The use of large landing ships as a transport of certain goods needed by the Syrian army does not currently have official confirmation.

    Well, let them wonder. Who knows what is there? Maybe spare missiles for the "shell", maybe
    S-300 components, maybe equipment for the integration of Syrian air defense and our radars on ships ...
    The more ignorance Americans have, the more time they have to think: "do we need all this ...?"
  6. +13
    13 September 2013 07: 32
    The Russian ships in the eastern part of the Mediterranean, using their radar systems, are able to create a continuous surveillance zone covering both the territory of Syria and the nearby waters. This will allow the Russian military to observe the movements of NATO ships, track missile launches and strike aircraft sorties. At the same time, Russian sailors can be not only silent observers, but also informants. The information received can be transmitted to the relevant authorities of the Russian Ministry of Defense, and in addition, to the Syrian headquarters. This may be the help promised by the Russian leadership.

    When the amers nevertheless suppress Syria's radar systems, our ships will be these systems. It’s also interesting why they brought our yummy one to treat the adversary.
    1. +2
      13 September 2013 07: 53
      Quote: FC Skiff

      When the amers nevertheless suppress Syria's radar systems, our ships will be these systems. It’s also interesting why they brought our yummy one to treat the adversary.

      Can explain how this is technically possible, and how it will be politically interpreted
      1. +9
        13 September 2013 08: 43
        Quote: Polar
        Can explain how it is technically possible

        What's the problem?
        Quote: Polar
        and how it will be politically interpreted

        USA did exactly the same in 08.08.08
      2. 0
        13 September 2013 21: 27
        Ha - what does politics have to do with it - when "naked" power has ruled the world for the last 20 years.
      3. 0
        13 September 2013 22: 01
        Quote: Polar

        Can explain how this is technically possible, and how it will be politically interpreted

        Ideally, we and the Syrians need an analogue of the Link-16 system. I doubt that there is one. Most likely, information from the ships goes to our embassy (directly or through Moscow), and from there to the GKP of the Syrian air defense. As an option. I would like to note that along with the radar station, stationary command posts will be destroyed in the first place and bringing the air situation to the surviving divisions may be significantly more difficult. I don’t know about the political aspect, but I think that there will be no strike on our embassy.
    2. eplewke
      0
      13 September 2013 09: 47
      It’s not like they’re driving potatoes ...
      1. 0
        13 September 2013 17: 08
        Maybe the potatoes too ...
        1. 0
          18 September 2013 08: 27
          Quote: rainufa
          Maybe the potatoes too ...


          And each was wrapped in a steel shell ...
  7. +3
    13 September 2013 07: 47
    The map at the beginning of the article is incomplete - there are NATO submarines there, but with a "?" quantity, but ours are not. It seems to me that the author of this map underestimates us, in love with 1-2 nuclear submarines in the Mediterranean Sea
    1. -7
      13 September 2013 07: 55
      Quote: Dangerous
      the author of this map underestimates us, like the 1-2 submarines in the Mediterranean Sea are present

      What for? What task will they perform?
      1. eplewke
        +3
        13 September 2013 09: 49
        Yes, I even think that not one, but two, but more. Who will the submarines indicate on the public map ?? This is classified information. That's why they are submarines, so that they secretly go. This is a strategic fleet!
    2. 0
      13 September 2013 15: 22
      It seems to me that the author of this map underestimates us, like 1-2 nuclear submarines in the Mediterranean

      It would be an unpleasant surprise for the US Navy if among them was the PKK of Project 949A (Antey class)
      1. +2
        13 September 2013 17: 48
        Submarines of Antey Project 949A (according to NATO classification - Oscar-II) - a series of Soviet and Russian nuclear submarines (SSGN), armed with P-700 Granite cruise missiles and designed to destroy aircraft carrier strike formations. The project is a modification of 949 "Granite".

        Attack on Nimitz (damage of $ 5 billion)? [2]

        At the same time, aircraft carriers will not be able to actively maintain a database due to the S-300 factor when operating the SAR air defense system, and being in Syria is a risk since YAHONTS, even if we imagine them, supposedly destroyed the valiant Tsakals, then the coddled BDKs have long made up for them.
        They want to leave with axes, here our armor will penetrate the penetration probability of 0.8-0.9, each ax costs $ 1.5 million and they will be needed according to some estimates of 200-300 missiles.

        With a flick of the wrist, aggression turns, aggression turns into a Bummer.

        It remains to cleanse the country of militants who want to establish a caliphate in Russia.
    3. Украинец
      -1
      16 September 2013 01: 24
      ... Well, let them be ... is it easier for you?
  8. +2
    13 September 2013 07: 54
    MilaPhone RU  Today, 07:20
    "Another ship has joined.
    The patrol ship of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation "Smetlivy" left on Thursday 12.09.13 from Sevastopol to the Mediterranean Sea. "

    Ship history:
    The laying of the ship took place on July 15, 1966 at the shipyard named after 61 Communards in Nikolaev. June 15, 1968 the ship was added to the lists of ships of the Navy of the USSR. August 26, 1967 launched; September 25, 1969 went into operation. 21.10.1969 was included in the Black Sea Fleet
    Tryndets comrades, could not find a ship for the newer ???
    1. MilaPhone
      +16
      13 September 2013 08: 03
      Yes, "Komsomol members of Ukraine" they are - old. wink
      In 1990-1995, a large modernization was carried out at the "Shrewd" BOD. Instead of a stern artillery mount and helipad, a MNK-300 non-acoustic submarine detection complex was installed with a 300-meter towed antenna that receives the thermal, radiation and noise signal of the submarine. In addition, two 1000-container launchers of anti-ship missiles “Uranus” (a close analogue of the American Harpoon missiles) were installed at the site of the RBU-4 bombers, jammers-directors PK-10 and PK-16 were placed in the pilothouse area, several new radars and PCRK control system, 5 × 533 mm torpedo tubes replaced by 7 × 406 mm. The total displacement of the ship reached 4900 tons. In 2006, a scheduled repair was completed.
      Now he is a patrol ship according to Russian qualifications. On the west - "Singing Frigate" smile and not only because of the characteristic “singing” of powerful gas turbines, but also for the respectable fighting qualities of the ships.
      1. MilaPhone
        +5
        13 September 2013 08: 23
        "Sharp-witted"
      2. +4
        13 September 2013 08: 52
        You can call the ship as beautifully as you like (the name "singing frigate" pleases the ear), but the fact remains - Russia sent a ship to a hot spot, which has been going for 5 decades. It is clear that they have modernized, but in the eyes of the West it looks just flawed. I remember the article here about the aircraft carrier Enterprise, as soon as it was not mocked because of its age! As a result, we send such old stuff ourselves. True, not an aircraft carrier, but a patrol boat ...
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          1. Mikola
            -15
            13 September 2013 12: 09
            may flare up erudition and hit the TTX of this frigate patrolman, as you yourself are excited. Or is self-criticism not available to you?)
            1. bif
              +3
              13 September 2013 21: 32
              may flare erudition and hit TTX your Ukrainian fleet ... there is more combat power in one "retired" Sharpie ...
            2. +3
              14 September 2013 07: 04
              but I heard the Ukrainian fleet generally floats in rubber Ufimki !!!
        2. bif
          +7
          13 September 2013 21: 22
          Russia sent a ship to the hot spot, which is already 5-th decade Do not take it as a claim, but in the Red Sea, to intimidate Syria, the old NIMITs with the "team" "keeps afloat". CVN-68 "Nimitz" was laid down on 22.06.1968/13.05.1972/XNUMX, launched on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX and no one blathers anything ... maybe in vain.
  9. +1
    13 September 2013 08: 02
    Quote: Valery Neonov
    missiles flying in the immediate vicinity of our ships can also be beaten.

    So are you sure that Russian ships will shoot down NATO missiles? It’s good that you are not the president, otherwise the whole planet would have to spend the rest of the days in bomb shelters.
  10. +4
    13 September 2013 08: 05
    To shoot down, they will shoot down missiles in case of conflict. It was not in vain that Russia conducted exercises there, the purpose of which was to work out the interception of missiles.
  11. +1
    13 September 2013 08: 09
    But when launching rockets with amers, ours cannot bring them down? Well, like, they suddenly thought we weren’t going to drink tea))
    1. +4
      13 September 2013 22: 41
      a brick doesn’t fall on a head just like that)) so there are no accidents. especially in such cases
  12. +10
    13 September 2013 08: 12
    They covered Syria with warships! Especially the BDK and no one knows what is inside of them .. The time goes by the bearded is getting smaller .. Hold on Assad!
  13. +7
    13 September 2013 08: 18
    Quote: Milafon
    Another ship joined.
    The patrol ship of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation "Smetlivy" left on Thursday 12.09.13 from Sevastopol to the Mediterranean Sea. Before that, the Ukrainian customs detained him for more than three hours. The customs officers re-formed the lists of the entire crew, checked the documents, asked many questions, as if they were deliberately dragging out time.

    not the same! start to dance to the west! then GEORGIA is helping to rearm against us. then they’re crap! Selling little souls from the leaders of UKRAINE! a pity the mustache equals a pendell to give them GEYROP
    1. Mikola
      -24
      13 September 2013 12: 10
      I repeat, you are strange, you want to wage a trade war, not fulfill the signed agreements and not have reciprocal dirty tricks. Ukraine has its own "world" problems, get it and write it. And Russia itself creates many world problems out of the blue. Do you think the Assad regime will hold out for a long time?) But Russia will spend a lot of money on this regime, although the result is known in advance. And also the gays of Europe are also against the European integration of Ukraine, did you agree on a position with them?))))
      1. pri3rak
        +1
        13 September 2013 15: 46
        Blessed is he who believes.
      2. +6
        13 September 2013 21: 07
        Quote: Mikola
        Yes, and many of the world's problems Russia creates out of the blue itself.

        The main and main problem of Russia in relation to the West is the resource-rich territory to which the West reveals its bread, all other problems are a consequence of this.
      3. Zopuhhh
        0
        17 September 2013 16: 51
        Quote: Mikola
        e fulfill signed contracts

        I understand correctly that you are now talking about gas shortages by Little Russia?
  14. +2
    13 September 2013 08: 36
    BDK still carries goods under the contract))
  15. +10
    13 September 2013 08: 38
    This is all that makes the Americans furiously scratch their turnips ... they are not used to it ... it is dishonest, in their opinion "to create an imbalance in the region", you know ... they are used to bombing defenseless without loss ...
  16. series
    +3
    13 September 2013 08: 52
    Russian ships located in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea, using their radar systems, are able to create a continuous observation zone covering both the territory of Syria and the nearby water areas
    rather, the water area adjacent to Syria and part of the territory at certain heights and directions ... But this is already very good for warning!
  17. +7
    13 September 2013 09: 18
    Yes, they will shoot down cruise missiles if the Americans decide to strike, and they will put interference in the radio range. This is the best option for helping Syria. "I will not beat, but I will not allow beating either."
    1. +3
      13 September 2013 14: 59
      "And though I am 3 months old, BUT - LADIES AND APPETITE IN DUNDELL". Said a cub sitting in a hole with a 2-year-old fox and a 5-year-old wolf. laughing
    2. Украинец
      -3
      16 September 2013 00: 15
      ... Under the bottom, a couple of three special tools were still quietly attached in Sevastopol ... neat holes will come out .... and to the bottom ...
  18. +4
    13 September 2013 09: 19
    There is a doubt that our fleet could undergo a so-called "accidental attack" as was the case in Serbia, in Belgrade ... The missile flew into the Chinese embassy not "accidentally", but to cover the source of intelligence transmission ... The Chinese shared their info with the Serbs satellites and gave them all kinds of operational information ...
    1. +7
      13 September 2013 09: 44
      Quote: Altona
      The rocket flew into the Chinese embassy not "by accident", but to cover the source of the intelligence transmission.
      Then the Yankees made excuses that it was a mistake because of the old data on buildings. With ships, such a "mistake" is unlikely to work, especially since the ship is not alone, and, unlike the embassy building, it has the ability to use air defense systems. Another question is what, really, our connection will do if one of the ships is attacked, no matter what "mistake" the Americans explain.
      1. 0
        14 September 2013 02: 55
        Quote: Per se.
        Another question is what, really, our connection will do if one of the ships is attacked, no matter what "mistake" the Americans explain.

        And this is still a mystery. The flotilla commander, according to anyone, has an envelope in the safe for possible scenarios.
  19. 0
    13 September 2013 09: 23
    The use of large amphibious ships as a transport of certain goods required by the Syrian army, at the moment has no official confirmation. A number of facts may serve as an indirect confirmation of this assumption, but the Russian leadership has not yet disclosed the true reasons for the transfer of a large number of BDK to the area of ​​possible conflict.

    The BDK is sent for two reasons - either the Syrians are finally providing military assistance, or these are the last Russian ships that can still sail. But it pleases that the Americans did not attack Syria on September 9th.
    1. +15
      13 September 2013 09: 54
      they didn’t even think of attacking, they were simply pushing the price because they understand that in Syria they are rapidly losing initiative and the statement about the attack simply attracts attention - they say, look, the USA still has something in the world! but in reality the world is floating out of their fins and flowing smoothly into the hands of Russia in alliance with China. It is worth recalling the rotten instigators - the United Kingdom, which succumbed to the Yankees and then skillfully leaked them proctically alone and emerged dry from the water, only Oland did not understand the trend and continues to bend in front of the United States. the United States itself is not happy that they have practically declared war on Syria. But then Putin came to the rescue with his initiative on chemical weapons, which at least practically pulled the states out of the shit but skillfully lowered them to their knees and smeared them with gras.
      1. +3
        13 September 2013 12: 16
        Pretty tough but correct comment, + Dear !!!
    2. +14
      13 September 2013 10: 02
      Quote: 0255
      The BDK is sent for two reasons - either the Syrians are finally providing military assistance, or these are the last Russian ships that can still sail.
      It is then necessary to send the Vikramaditya for sea trials not to the White Sea, but to the Mediterranean, until the aircraft carrier was handed over to the Indians in November this year. And, to the full program "test" the work of radars, takeoffs and landings of carrier-based aircraft ... Indians will benefit, and we, in the end.
      1. +2
        13 September 2013 10: 29
        It would be interesting....
    3. Lockbase170
      0
      14 September 2013 10: 13
      Of the two reasons mentioned, one is completely wrong .. Lack of information - it affects speculation, and this is fundamentally impossible to do.
  20. +12
    13 September 2013 09: 46
    our fellows, Moscow alone 121 what is it worth, it would be ours if our mind had enough to take her sister from Ukraine, bring Ustinov to mind as soon as possible, and then think over 1144, such ships need to be restored, cutting them is just a crime, Russia will not allow itself already to build such giants, it is necessary to use what wiser ancestors left us
    1. +4
      13 September 2013 12: 24
      Fortunately, all 4 will undergo modernization, full Nakhimov, Lazarev and Ushakov on an abridged plan. At the expense of Peter, I know that he will be the last, but I did not find any information on what plan he will go.
  21. Peaceful military
    +10
    13 September 2013 09: 53
    Yes, everything is so and it’s not bad, especially against the background of the last couple of decades.
    BUT!
    All this can easily turn into a steam that flies out into a whistle if inside Russia there is no such concentration in the form of the development of industry, the army and merciless liberation from Russophobic liberalism (cleansing and deliberation).
    1. +5
      13 September 2013 10: 07
      I agree it is necessary to ban liberalism in Russia; in Egypt, it was enough of a mind to ban Muslim brothers, and we are worse !?
      1. Peaceful military
        +7
        13 September 2013 13: 13
        I agree it is necessary to ban liberalism in Russia; in Egypt, it was enough of a mind to ban Muslim brothers, and we are worse !?

        It is not enough to ban it; it must be eradicated from power, from education, from the economy. Of course, no one suggests destroying the liberals themselves.
        We are no worse than the Egyptians, we want to be deceived and therefore deceived.
        BUT!
        Once you have to see clearly ... soldier
  22. chushoj
    +1
    13 September 2013 10: 09
    Not a bad review. I think that the ships will not only transmit information to Syria about the missiles seen. There are great doubts that the transfer of information to the "appropriate bodies" of the defense will be a priority. My main concern is that most decisions will be standalone.
  23. Yankuz
    +3
    13 September 2013 10: 20
    Quote: Nitarius
    Quote: Milafon
    Another ship joined.
    The patrol ship of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation "Smetlivy" left on Thursday 12.09.13 from Sevastopol to the Mediterranean Sea. Before that, the Ukrainian customs detained him for more than three hours. The customs officers re-formed the lists of the entire crew, checked the documents, asked many questions, as if they were deliberately dragging out time.

    not the same! start to dance to the west! then GEORGIA is helping to rearm against us. then they’re crap! Selling little souls from the leaders of UKRAINE! a pity the mustache equals a pendell to give them GEYROP

    Well, in reality, they are already getting in the way of their "participation" in big politics.
  24. +2
    13 September 2013 10: 33
    At the end of 2012, the Navy began to build up forces in the Mediterranean. From May 1, 2013, a special control group of ships was formed to coordinate the actions of ships.

    At present, large landing ships "Peresvet", "Admiral Nevelskoy", "Minsk", "Novocherkassk", "Alexander Shabalin", a large anti-submarine ship "Admiral Panteleev" and a patrol ship "Fearless" are on duty in the Mediterranean Sea, soon to them the guards missile cruiser Moskva, the Smetlivy patrol ship and the Nikolai Filchenkov large landing ship will join.

    V. Chirkov noted that in this region the Navy faces "extremely clear tasks" - to avoid the slightest threat to the borders and state security. "It is the practice of all the fleets of the world to be where the level of tension increases," the admiral said.
  25. +6
    13 September 2013 10: 38
    The presence of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean shows that the Russian Federation is paying serious attention to the situation around Syria, said Alexei Pushkov, head of the international committee of the State Duma of the Russian Federation.

    "The Russian navy in the Mediterranean Sea by its presence shows that we are paying very serious attention to this situation," he said.

    Pushkov added that "it (the situation) is perceived as a key problem in world politics, that Russia is watching the development of events, watching from close proximity and does not intend to accept the military logic of resolving this conflict."

    On Tuesday, a senior Russian Navy official told RIA Novosti that the Black Sea Fleet patrol ship Smetlivy would leave Sevastopol and head for the shores of Syria on September 12. The naval spokesman recalled that on September 17, the Moskva missile cruiser will arrive in the eastern Mediterranean region, and on September 29, two Black Sea Fleet ships will arrive in the Syrian coast area: the Ivanovets missile boat and the Shtil small missile ship. According to him, on Friday a detachment of ships, including the Novocherkassk (Black Sea Fleet) and Minsk (Baltic Fleet) large landing craft, as well as the Azovye reconnaissance ship (Black Sea Fleet), passed the Dardanelles and entered the command of the Mediterranean squadron.
  26. +5
    13 September 2013 11: 02
    A few decades ago, the presence then in the ports of Egypt and Libya (not in the last war winked ) Soviet ships greatly strained the aggressors. The fear to "hook" these ships of the USSR Navy by mistake protected these places from attacks. Now, I hope, they will not be used as a "human shield", but they will at least serve as an AWACS system for Syria
  27. vthrehbq
    +6
    13 September 2013 11: 05
    The most likely scenario is the creation by our ships' radars of illumination of all possible targets. all means of destruction of air defense are aimed primarily at the destruction of radar and the Americans will try to destroy them in the event of an impact .. but if the Syrian air defense do not turn on the radars and work in a passive mode, receiving information from our ships .. it will be practically impossible to destroy them
    1. +1
      13 September 2013 15: 42
      In order for Syrian air defense to receive information from our ships in real time, it is necessary to integrate them (ships) into a single control network, and this requires a lot of time, if at all possible. Communication is our weak point, and even the interaction between dissimilar forces is lame even more. In many comments I read about jamming the damned bourgeoisie in the event of a rocket attack. It may turn out that the Americans are a hitch to the Americans, but if they begin to put pressure on us in response to the radar and communications, it won’t be enough.
  28. +4
    13 September 2013 11: 11
    Yes, everything is clear, in the BDK there are weapons systems, the same Yakhonts, missiles for air defense, etc. Surely there are Marines for order. It is ridiculous to take out the BDK of Russian citizens. There were 170 of them before the war, now half! This is how much BDK is needed ???? even if to the eyeballs it is a maximum of 000 people, it’s like herrings in a barrel. The reconnaissance ship "Priazovye" is there for carrying out electronic intelligence, it can track all the pre-launch preparations, launches and trajectories. Unique ship. Plus early warning system radar Voronezh. And RK Moscow + boats + patrol, it’s so ... so that Americans do not freeze stupid things. Yet the nuclear submarines do not know how many are there that are likely to carry anti-missile missiles. Recently, there was a missile launch, supposedly Israel was testing its missile defense systems, well, a lie, after all! They tried to detect Syrian secretive air defense. The Syrians did not turn on their radar, because the Sea of ​​Azov worked and transmitted the trajectory.
    1. +3
      13 September 2013 11: 41
      >. The Azov reconnaissance ship is there to carry electronic reconnaissance, it can trace all pre-launch preparations, launches and trajectories. A unique ship. Plus early warning system radar Voronezh.

      Is this an overseas station on it? Or did you mean stationary, in Russia?
      Can these Voronezhs serve for target designation? If they can, then no AWACS aircraft are needed in the Mediterranean Sea. So it turns out
      1. +5
        13 September 2013 13: 39
        Well, I'm not too strong in her performance characteristics, they are classified, but apparently she marks missile launches. And judging by the late reaction of the USA and Israel, it was a surprise for them!
    2. +8
      13 September 2013 15: 05
      "Azov region", among other things, by the way, can also block the work of radio electronics ..... laughing and, on the go, there will be little, sir ....
      1. 0
        18 September 2013 20: 33
        Quote: papik09
        "Priazovye", among other things, by the way, can also block the work of radio electronics

        And it can get a missile pointing at a source of interference. Not so simple, unfortunately.
    3. Lockbase170
      +1
      15 September 2013 20: 39
      Let me tell you right away: forget about the Marines! There are 80% conscripts! And they will never be allowed into the "meat" .. We passed .. But the fact that there may be "thermometers" from the Airborne Forces is quite possible .. I'm even sure these are specialists from the 45th and 31st brigades ..
      1. gunnerminer
        0
        15 September 2013 21: 00
        Let me tell you right away: forget about the Marines! There are 80% conscripts! And they will never be allowed into the "meat" .. We passed .. But the fact that there may be "thermometers" from the Airborne Forces is quite possible .. I'm even sure these are specialists from the 45th and 31st brigades ..



        The indicated 45 and 31 oddbrs did not get rid of conscripts, they did not completely transfer to the contract.
  29. +4
    13 September 2013 11: 12
    Russian ships possess not only powerful radar equipment, which will create a continuous radar field in the region, but also reconnaissance equipment. In such a situation, it will be possible to track any provocation by potential aggressors. And they are capable of it. Remember the provocations with the launch of missiles in the direction of Syria. In the case of missile attacks on Syria, air defense ships can be used to repel these attacks.
    1. chushoj
      0
      13 September 2013 14: 48
      How is the gearbox for the S-300? If there was such a connection.
  30. +2
    13 September 2013 11: 23
    The Yankees themselves are not happy that they climbed there, the allies threw them. They did not create a normal grouping. And five destroyers of the Arly-Burke type + 3 aircraft carriers + 1 submarine of the Ohio type are a maximum of 500 axes. This is provided that the destroyers are in shock equipment, but judging by the fact that they came spontaneously, this is unlikely, which means there are even less axes. Well, even if it’s 500, well, this is not enough to deliver a direct hit on key objects. Half of the axes in the worst case are hit down. Well, judging by the latest news, the Yanui give the back!
  31. +1
    13 September 2013 11: 44
    why why
    in which case the coordinates of the targets will be given, and the Syrians only have time to press the button on the C300
  32. +4
    13 September 2013 11: 44
    This will allow the Russian military to monitor the movements of NATO ships, track missile launches and attacks of attack aircraft. At the same time, Russian sailors can be not only silent observers, but also informants. The information received can be transmitted to the relevant bodies of the Russian Ministry of Defense, and also to the Syrian headquarters. This may be the help promised by the Russian leadership.


    Weaned from our excursions, combed our hair, twitched. It is one thing to launch darts with impunity, another when they are watching, observing, recording, transmitting, etc.
    From that, they, the mericatos, and nervousness. It is bad for them, poor fellow, in the neighborhood with our Fleet.
  33. +4
    13 September 2013 11: 47
    In my opinion, the article is clearly written. The warships of the Russian Navy cover transport operations for the supply of everything Assad needs, in which case they will take people back. In addition, the ships cover the submarine and the reconnaissance ship, and participate in lighting the situation. "Moscow" provides air defense connections. If fired upon, they will not chain along the coast to shoot down missiles. The ships will be concentrated to the side, at the range of their strike weapons, and will be ready to shoot down gifts that have "accidentally flown" towards them.
    1. series
      0
      13 September 2013 11: 57
      Quote: chunga-changa
      In my opinion, the article clearly says

      Here, on the fences, sometimes it is also very clearly written by a playful child's hand ... the word "xy?" fellow
      but the experienced eye will immediately understand that it is either reinforced concrete or wood ... wassat
      1. +1
        13 September 2013 12: 32
        God, yes you need to write an article about this urgently, such deep knowledge, so much experience.
      2. 0
        13 September 2013 15: 08
        This is not a fence, but on the door of a barn. laughing And when you open the door, and there ..... firewood is wassat
  34. Sergeant
    0
    13 September 2013 11: 47
    Quote: xetai9977
    Quote: Valery Neonov
    missiles flying in the immediate vicinity of our ships can also be beaten.

    So are you sure that the ships of the Russian Federation will shoot down NATO missiles? ...


    I doubt that they will fly over the "heads" of our sailors at all.
    Amers are not so tough as to throw "little plates" worth 1,5 million dollars for the amusement of Russian sailors. But that's not all: how many missiles can (will) shoot down Russian ships? Will this make the "weather" in the region? Look at the map: Amers launchers from almost ALL sides!
    Does anyone know how much it costs (for us) one air defense missile capable of shooting down "axes"? Taking into account the economies of the Russian Federation and the United States, isn't such a "shooting gallery" too expensive (for us)? In Syria, and so "dough" vbuhali, probably will not seem a little!
    The plus article, of course. :))
  35. Mikola
    +10
    13 September 2013 11: 49
    The Syrian crisis gives Russia one lesson - the fact that large surface ships are needed and removes the question whether Russia needs aircraft carriers.
    1. bif
      +1
      13 September 2013 15: 40
      If the "Anthea" is not visible, this does not mean that it is not there ... and judging by your headless logic, then in order to show its effectiveness, the "Kursk" had to work out all the ammunition in the 6th fleet back in 1999 off the coast of Yugoslavia.
      1. Украинец
        -1
        16 September 2013 00: 55
        ...Why not? ... But, .... everyone knows about "Kursk" ....
        1. Alex 241
          0
          16 September 2013 00: 57
          You would be ashamed to dance on the bones of the dead! I went to a branch where there is nobody and let's choke with bile!
          1. 0
            16 September 2013 01: 02
            Quote: Alex 241
            You would be ashamed to dance on the bones of the dead! I went to a branch where there is nobody and let's choke with bile!

            Yes, forget it on this troll ....
            1. Украинец
              -1
              16 September 2013 02: 09
              ... said the troll ...
  36. +2
    13 September 2013 11: 51
    Quote: aszzz888
    From that, they, the mericatos, and nervousness. It is bad for them, poor fellow, in the neighborhood with our Fleet.

    I would also not sit quietly when there are 16 P-1000 Vulcan missiles nearby))))
    1. Mikola
      +3
      13 September 2013 12: 03
      do not be confused, the author of the article correctly pointed out that the Russian fleet is performing defensive functions. And "they" are clearly offensive. So they have no fear. We must respect the enemy, otherwise this is the path to defeat.
    2. 0
      13 September 2013 15: 10
      .... or "Basalt" ....
    3. Украинец
      -2
      16 September 2013 01: 00
      ... And what is "pulnut"? .... Then this is the third world ... at least ... sorry for "Moscow" ... it will quickly disappear ...
  37. Ukraine
    +8
    13 September 2013 12: 44
    As if they did not criticize the Russian Navy, but the fear of gay Amers is on the face. Valdemar is not Borya. Respect and respect.
    1. Украинец
      -2
      16 September 2013 00: 58
      ... Don’t give me a gop ... a fellow countryman ... everything is ahead .... bought popcorn? ... sit down comfortably ...
  38. +2
    13 September 2013 12: 49
    Quote: Mikola
    do not be confused, the author of the article correctly pointed out that the Russian fleet is performing defensive functions. And "they" are clearly offensive. So they have no fear. We must respect the enemy, otherwise this is the path to defeat.

    I do not agree with this statement. The US group is very small for some sort of offensive action. If, by analogy, we recall Iraq, there were so many destroyers, landing transports, docks of the San Antonio type. And here's how to play on the nerves. If something serious was the Syrian army did not continue WHO! IMHO !!!
    1. +4
      13 September 2013 13: 25
      There are no transports, as the Americans did not initially plan a ground operation, and even if they did, then allies of the United States surround Syria from all sides, the territory of which they use as a bridgehead to strike. However, the current situation, taking into account public opinion in the West, suggests that Obama does his best to get out of this situation and not lose face. He clearly loses the information battle, therefore, if the military action is unsuccessfully developing, he can rally impeachment, and even if the image of the peacemaker is successful, he will dry up on his tanned face. So I think the Yankees will back down, although they will try to recoup in the diplomatic ring.
      1. +3
        13 September 2013 13: 50
        And here it is just not so. Although Turkey screams that it is ready for war, it is not torn. They have Iran under their noses. It’s most likely that Erdogan’s grandmother Katarski is working out + there are also Kurds from Syria and there are still Kurds in Turkey. Iraq, Libya, Egypt refused to give airspace, England banned the use of its air bases, what remains ?? 2 aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean + 1 in Red (moreover, during the Red Campaign it’s not a game, airplanes fly far through Israel) + France’s air base, if I'm not mistaken in Saudi Arabia. It is too little. Another fact, NATO has never encountered modern Russian-made air defense systems. NIRAZU. And we were confronted in the war with Georgia, everyone means how it ended!
        1. +2
          13 September 2013 13: 59
          But after all, Jordan still remains with Israel, this is a blow from two sides. Moreover, Israel can deny until the very end preparations for a military action, and then strike at the last moment. Well, modern air defense, this is really the issue that makes the cerebellum to the states and co. Therefore, they probably have not yet hit ...
          1. +1
            13 September 2013 14: 29
            The funny thing is that the Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Jordan, Abdullah Al-Nussur, also said that he would not provide his territory as a springboard for an attack on Syria. And Israel without just looking at Iran will not just act!
  39. goats denis
    -18
    13 September 2013 13: 14
    The squadron was sent to evacuate Assad and his loyal people, as well as their families, and not for anything else.
    1. +4
      13 September 2013 14: 21
      Suddenly ... and a lot of stupidity.
      no offense
      1. goats denis
        -8
        13 September 2013 17: 46
        And you think, for what? or in the Kremlin they don’t realize that our fleet can only die heroically in case of war (the crews will heroically fight, but you will not last long against such an ARMADA), I don’t think landing troops, when everything starts all ports and the entire coastal zone will or captured, or shoot through. So there they already handed over Assad in the Kremlin, they only guaranteed him life and departure from the country. That's why our squadron is there.
        1. VDV 80-82
          +2
          13 September 2013 19: 47
          Is your fleet an Amer chtol? then absolutely agree
        2. +4
          13 September 2013 23: 56
          goats denis
          I don’t argue and I won’t ... I only wish that you yourself would understand how deeply mistaken you are, speaking so insignificantly about your country.
        3. +2
          14 September 2013 00: 16
          Quote: Denis Goats
          And you think, for what? or in the Kremlin they don’t realize that our fleet can only die heroically in case of war (the crews will heroically fight, but you will not last long against such an ARMADA), I don’t think landing troops, when everything starts all ports and the entire coastal zone will or captured, or shoot through. So there they already handed over Assad in the Kremlin, they only guaranteed him life and departure from the country. That's why our squadron is there.

          Not pissing! laughing laughing
        4. Lockbase170
          0
          14 September 2013 10: 15
          the author is burning! Go escho! Finish at least school, analyst ....
    2. 0
      14 September 2013 00: 08
      Quote: Denis Kozlov
      The squadron was sent to evacuate Assad and his loyal people, as well as their families, and not for anything else.
      the squadron was sent to evacuate the American fleet. laughing* (suddenly war) laughing
  40. +1
    13 September 2013 13: 25
    Quote: Denis Kozlov
    The squadron was sent to evacuate Assad and his loyal people, as well as their families, and not for anything else.

    Interesting opinion, but it makes no sense to drive so many BDKs!
    1. goats denis
      -8
      13 September 2013 13: 29
      Apparently for the quantity, because as many ships as the USA do not have, they sent everything they could find
      1. +4
        13 September 2013 13: 52
        To drive the BDK for count is ridiculous, they have no strike weapons. The Yankees would not pay attention to them.
        1. +2
          13 September 2013 18: 59
          Or perhaps on each large landing craft there are "Pantsiri" ready-made for the DB, which are capable of working right on the decks ...
          1. Lockbase170
            0
            14 September 2013 10: 19
            No need to guess .. At the BDK everything is fine and fed well ... wink
      2. Lockbase170
        0
        14 September 2013 10: 18
        laughing troll on ... stock up on popcorn ... laughing
  41. HF
    +18
    13 September 2013 13: 29
    Quote: Kibalchish
    ... I am not enthusiastic about the Assad regime, but the more he kills these bearded bastards, the easier it will be for us to live. ...

    I want to swear ... What is Assad’s regime? Syria, to all this crap, was a secular, multi-religious State! Since when is a legitimately elected President considered a dictator? Explain if this does not bother you. Thank you in advance for your reply.
    1. +2
      13 September 2013 15: 15
      Yeah, wait for an answer ... I agree with you, sir. Syria is a completely self-sufficient and secular state. Also, SOVEREIGNTY. hi
    2. +1
      13 September 2013 22: 44
      what please explain what do you mean by the word legitimacy? In general, how do you imagine legitimate elections?
      1. Arabist
        0
        13 September 2013 22: 48
        Lonely, your opinion on Syria? What should be expected in September?
        1. +1
          13 September 2013 23: 29
          Greetings Andrew! I expect the following. an increase in all kinds of provocations, which will undoubtedly benefit the West and the Americans.
          I recently read information that the Syrian military command creates tank ditches and reinforces checkpoints, turning them into fortified areas in the outskirts of Damascus. militants may launch an attack on Damascus or try to take Aleppo completely.
          but as for the fact that they can strike it is still possible. after all, the group is still in the area of ​​concentration and the ships have not been removed from there.
          1. 0
            13 September 2013 23: 38
            Quote: lonely
            I recently read information that the Syrian military command creates tank ditches and reinforces checkpoints, turning them into fortified areas in the outskirts of Damascus. militants may launch an attack on Damascus or try to take Aleppo completely.

            strange. But all in all 2 months ago, Assad stated. that until the complete defeat of the SSA there is a maximum of a month left. Well, a month has long passed, the second comes to an end. And here they are digging ditches.
          2. +1
            14 September 2013 02: 58
            Quote: lonely
            I recently read information that the Syrian military command creates tank ditches and reinforces checkpoints, turning them into fortified areas in the outskirts of Damascus. militants may launch an attack on Damascus or try to take Aleppo completely.

            They’ll do it right, if the Americans strike, then the militants will intensify sharply, and it’s better to prepare with the rhetoric of Turkey.
    3. +3
      14 September 2013 00: 24
      Quote: KV
      . What is Assad’s regime? Si
      when they write and say the "regime" of Assad, it means that it is mishandled, it just pours in the poison drop by drop. More subtle so to speak.
  42. Volkhov
    0
    13 September 2013 13: 49
    On the map and on the lists there is no RCA 955, which went into the sea, did something and went somewhere ... probably for this the rest of the squadron.
  43. 0
    13 September 2013 14: 11
    Quote: Mikola
    I repeat, you are strange, you want to wage a trade war, not fulfill the signed agreements and not have reciprocal dirty tricks. Ukraine has its own "world" problems, get it and write it. And Russia itself creates many world problems out of the blue. Do you think the Assad regime will hold out for a long time?) But Russia will spend a lot of money on this regime, although the result is known in advance. And also the gays of Europe are also against the European integration of Ukraine, did you agree on a position with them?))))

    Instead of Western boobs you get a furry nipple, not there brothers are looking ...
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  44. +7
    13 September 2013 14: 21
    Quote: chunga-changa
    Otherwise, soon some kind of Georgia will shell our ships illuminated by the Americans.

    I think that Georgia will never again be shelling anyone or anything Russian. Not that shelling, but even doing a yaw-yaw in our direction will not. Not 2008 in the yard. If, something on the tonsils and in a perverted form.
    1. German
      0
      16 September 2013 00: 33
      Mishiko on the tonsils ...
  45. albanech
    +1
    13 September 2013 14: 45
    It's just that Russia wants to show the United States that the master of the world is not the United States! It is necessary to reckon with the countries of the world and their desires, and there will be no dermatology like the United States! Stop shitting "master - slave - nigga" Obama! Obama! Obama! Shame on you and the Hague!
  46. +3
    13 September 2013 14: 54
    Quote: Vrungel78
    Mykola. Our watchman just out of respect stopped at your customs. And so he could send tries and swim further.

    Bravo
    1. Lockbase170
      +1
      14 September 2013 10: 21
      "Wife to Valuev: Kolya, do not go to the disassembly, there are three of them ..." laughing
  47. andru_007
    +3
    13 September 2013 15: 16
    It's great that we have created a grouping in the Mediterranean Sea, but it is a pity that it was formed according to the principle "from the world on a string", literally from the fleet to the ship.
    I think the government’s revival of the fleet was previously hypothetically considered, well, they say it’s necessary, after the events in Syria it began to understand the practical need. I hope the correct conclusions will be made and this will accelerate the revival of the fleet! Well, we need it no matter how you turn it ...
  48. +2
    13 September 2013 17: 43
    As they say horseradish Americans and not Syria! angry
  49. me
    me
    0
    13 September 2013 17: 47
    Amer will tomahawk bombard the troops of Assad, we, in turn, are militants. Well, we can intercept missiles, in principle, we can’t do anything else.
  50. Alex-z84
    +2
    13 September 2013 18: 35
    Quote: Dangerous
    Ukrainians in relation to Russia never sit on the ass forever, you always need to do minor dirty tricks, like Shopoklyak. It seems like neighbors are also taken, but either envious over the top (that Russia solves world problems, but nobody pays attention to them), or xs what else ...

    Not Ukrainians, but their government, the majority of Ukrainians treat us fraternally as well as most Russians to them.
    1. VDV 80-82
      +2
      13 September 2013 19: 51
      you are wrong! forget about this fraternity ... it's been gone for a long time! even in the east of Ukraine.
      1. Gur
        0
        13 September 2013 21: 37
        I disagree in the east ok west tin
  51. +5
    13 September 2013 18: 53
    If not for these ships, then no amount of the eloquence of Minister Lavrov and the protests of “progressive humanity” could have stopped the American aggression against Syria. Now, perhaps, our leadership will be convinced in practice that it is not so scary to openly contradict the American monster. Of course, if you have a capable army, navy and nuclear weapons behind you.
  52. Gur
    +3
    13 September 2013 21: 30
    In any case, our ships are like a charm for our partners in one place (very, very good), and the suitable Moscow with the characteristic of an aircraft carrier killer generally puts them into a stupor am Tremble...
    1. 0
      16 September 2013 00: 14
      Moscow alone cannot handle the weather without aviation support under any circumstances. And there is no need to harbor any illusions about the presence of a missile cruiser. The history of the cruiser Bismarck is a clear example of this. In modern conditions of naval combat, the cruiser Moscow without air support will only be a target without any chance of survival.
  53. soldier's grandson
    +1
    13 September 2013 22: 13
    the Americans will hammer Assad, and ours will hammer the opposition, and in the evenings they will count the results and compare
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    2. Украинец
      -1
      16 September 2013 01: 16
      Interesting option...
  54. Peaceful military
    +3
    13 September 2013 22: 47
    I just watched the RT video: "Oksana Boyko talks with Human Rights Watch executive director Kenneth Roth about the double standards policy used by international human rights organizations." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K05XcQtqyzA&feature=c4-overview&list=UUFU30dGHNhZ

    -hkh0R10LhLw
    Well, guys, I have not seen and heard not more arrogant, monstrous and aggressively served lies.
    WHAT ELSE TO EXPECT FROM THESE "common people" -Indumans ?!
    1. Arabist
      0
      13 September 2013 22: 51
      Peaceful military man, what did your opponent write with the Estonian flag? I did not get anything.
      1. Peaceful military
        +1
        14 September 2013 16: 49
        Peaceful military man, what did your opponent write with the Estonian flag? I did not get anything.

        Andrei (namesake), this Integra_st, who came out here, who began to be considered Estonians and whom the Estonians themselves treat with contempt, said that agriculture in the former ESSR was not destroyed, that, as a Russian patriot, I am obliged to leave for Russia ( here the slogan of ChVR is fashionable - suitcase-station-Russia)...
  55. -1
    14 September 2013 00: 00
    And the NATO generals have no idea that Russia has no more normal ships left like the BDK. There is a desire to rattle weapons, but there isn’t much of it, everything rotted near the wall in Yeltsin’s times.
    1. +5
      14 September 2013 00: 25
      What is important is not the landing craft itself, but what it brought.
  56. 0
    14 September 2013 01: 28
    This is what he brought most of all and interests everyone! There may be seeds in bags - and you’re nervous... crying
    1. Lockbase170
      0
      14 September 2013 10: 00
      Oh, I know what's there... bully but I’ll say not now... But the fact that there are no seeds there is a fact! and if you take it all out... wink
      1. 0
        14 September 2013 15: 54
        ... someone will turn out for real!!! bully
        1. Lockbase170
          0
          15 September 2013 22: 39
          Exactly, Colonel ;)
  57. German
    0
    14 September 2013 02: 20
    But still, no matter what, I’m pleased with the number of Russian ships on the map.....that’s a bone in our throat! You can’t offend the smaller ones (Syria, etc.)
  58. +2
    14 September 2013 02: 23
    It would be a good idea! Otherwise they'll pretend to be extras - and into the bushes! I really wouldn't want that
  59. 0
    14 September 2013 09: 45
    Why send ships? - because grown-up guys always swim behind the “buoys” - there you have experience and extreme sports and respect for those who are on the shore, again, working behind the “buoys” adds peace of mind on the shore.
  60. Vityaz68
    0
    14 September 2013 14: 25
    I CAN'T HOPE THEY WILL BE THERE TO BEAT THE AMERICANS!
    1. 0
      14 September 2013 15: 56
      Why not? Tea is not the first time... Vietnam, Cambodia, etc., etc.
    2. 0
      15 September 2013 23: 46
      What are you going to hit with, if it’s not a secret?
      The example of Vietnam does not apply. Our country and army were different then.
      Well, if you look at the situation seriously, Russia will not be able to help Syria in any way other than on the diplomatic front. And God forbid that we get involved in a military conflict far from our bases. We have no chance in this situation. The Mediterranean Sea is an inland sea for NATO countries with fully controlled straits.
  61. +1
    14 September 2013 16: 26
    I read the comments and was horrified, I even went to register, before that I just read it all the time, but there are normal people in Ukraine, I knew heaps of them myself, but there are all sorts of people screaming about the fact that Russia will wash its blood on Ukraine, what about us then Germany some didn’t capture, Germany’s army is much better than the Ukrainian one, which will soon have
    1. Украинец
      -1
      16 September 2013 01: 19
      ...Come on, don’t be angry..It was your Putin who said that you (Russia) would have dealt with the fascists without Ukraine...We’re not offended....
      1. +5
        16 September 2013 03: 10
        Quote: Ukrainian
        ...Come on, don't be angry.

        You've already been thrown... At birth... with your head on the floor.. laughing
  62. alexs30
    0
    14 September 2013 17: 51
    And why is the regime in Syria worse than the regime in Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Qatar? Why are you not “enthusiastic” about this alone?
  63. KononAV
    0
    15 September 2013 07: 51
    I agree with the author there the composition of the fleet is not for war.
    1. Lockbase170
      +3
      15 September 2013 21: 51
      Fighting is the last thing... But if we have to, we will die dearly!
  64. 0
    15 September 2013 12: 26
    Good news.
    The presence of a strong enemy nearby cools down the hot heads of the Americans.
    At the same time, we will conduct exercises near a potential enemy.
    1. Ivan Sirko
      -8
      15 September 2013 15: 48
      Are you the strong ones? In relation to Georgia they may be strong.
      We have to be at least a little realistic.
      1. Crang
        0
        15 September 2013 19: 25
        By the number of megatons of nuclear, chemical and vacuum munitions that can fall on the enemy’s head, we can completely destroy 10 countries such as the USA and 100 Ukraine.
        1. Украинец
          -1
          16 September 2013 00: 12
          ....Be careful not to blow yourself up..
      2. Lockbase170
        +7
        15 September 2013 20: 06
        We are not strong, we are skillful.. But you are a “commercial project”... No Motherland, no flag.. You are doing a great job! And the delay of "Sharp-witted" for three hours is completely ridiculous... We worked out exactly 300 dollars! :) Take Tverskaya for free! Gyyy..
        1. 0
          16 September 2013 17: 04
          That's what we're counting on! What if they take it back... I don’t want something
      3. 0
        19 September 2013 17: 12
        Judging by your last name, semi-respectable, you are no stranger to doing all sorts of “Sirko” things here and there. And if we started talking about realism, come to us, I’ll take you to the exhibition hall of one of our defense plants, look at what we live with today and what our clear sky is based on) And then you’ll make your own “Sirco”.
  65. D_L
    D_L
    0
    15 September 2013 19: 11
    The Syrians will greatly benefit from this help. In the event of an operation, their air defense will try to “blind” them during the first days of the missile strike.
    1. Украинец
      -1
      16 September 2013 00: 41
      ....Oh...where there...the main thing is that you don’t go blind yourself..
  66. Crang
    0
    15 September 2013 19: 22
    The only thing we can say with certainty is that Russian ships will not engage in battle with foreign ones and Russia will not be drawn into the war.

    And if they kind of “miss” us and fire a missile right at our Moskva missile launcher, then they won’t engage in battle, but will just quietly wipe themselves out, throwing hysteria in the press? What will happen in this case? After all, this is not the first time - Americans feel strong behind them and are not particularly shy. Remember the Kursk - there is a version that it was rammed by one Western nuclear submarine, and then finished off by torpedoes from a second one. As in Yugoslavia, the United States in all seriousness proposed to recapture the Pristino airfield from our paratroopers. They so brazenly invaded our territorial waters that our ICR had to ram the intruder (although he could have used weapons since the intruder was brazenly approaching our shores, but apparently he didn’t have the courage). Americans are desperate guys in this regard - they shoot first and think later. Maybe we shouldn’t go there with our “fleet” of tugs?
    1. Lockbase170
      +3
      15 September 2013 20: 28
      Laughed again.. Getting into “Moscow” is very troublesome only because you have to be dead drunk to allow yourself this insolence.. And if you think about it from a tactical and technical point of view, then “Moscow” must be simultaneously hammered from four directions with a dozen anti-ship missiles ..and this is the destruction of the ship, a direct threat...and then the piano comes in.. Maybe underwater..
  67. Lockbase170
    +1
    15 September 2013 20: 09
    Sometimes the word inspires us, it gives strength to the spirit and body.. But.. Not everyone understands this! Especially superstitious courtly catapultists....
  68. Lockbase170
    +3
    15 September 2013 21: 58
    I am fascinated by the comments of the trolls of the jingoistic patriots, guys, sit at home and have "Klava".. Don't go there, which you only know about from "Call of duty".. Normal guys are now playing backgammon in. Mediterranean, contract soldiers and conscripts.. The elite of our fleet and army are there.. They will do their job or die, and it’s not for you to “suck” their candy of happiness.. Because this is not given to you! Go into the shadows... and don't flash your naked ass, you spectacled bastard...
    1. Украинец
      -2
      16 September 2013 00: 11
      ...I would have beaten you... and for real... Don’t even doubt it.... at one time I carried out really combat tasks... you’re a nerd... you’re a youngster... what do you know about “getting things done”?...brat...the entire Soviet army was based on the Ukrainians...we actually held weapons in our hands...it’s you who are now practicing in “Duti”...
      1. +4
        16 September 2013 03: 12
        Quote: Ukrainian
        .the entire Soviet army relied on Ukrainians.

        ... thieves-ensigns...
      2. +1
        16 September 2013 03: 33
        And where do you get so much anger? You're behaving like a bitch. "He was holding a weapon in his hands." Did you use it for its intended purpose? So, then sit and sniff into a rag! am And the SA rested not on us Ukrainians, but on all Ukrainians and Russians and Belarusians, etc., all 120 nationalities of the USSR. soldier
  69. calliefy60
    0
    16 September 2013 02: 52
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  70. +1
    16 September 2013 03: 29
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    Quote: Ukrainian
    ... At a speed, the "Kharkov agreements" are denounced ... and by 2017, welcome ... "with things on the way out" .... You rent 18 hectares for a penny ... (000 million bucks) ... .for three times less area "amers" pay the Germans a billion bucks ... Get out ... or pay as expected ...

    Do you want the Crimean Guantanamo? laughing


    Why do you pay attention to the dunces? feel
  71. sk-12
    +2
    16 September 2013 12: 59
    We need to be honest, the Russian Navy is weaker, especially aircraft carriers. The bureaucracy of the Russian Federation is too bloated; officials should be reduced by at least 2 times. It’s better to shoot for theft on an especially large scale, causing damage to the defense industry. Then there are prospects.
    The Russian Federation can resist with a submarine fleet, this is a terrible weapon, but at the same time dangerous. As long as the Russian Federation has an active submarine fleet, only a madman can attack.
  72. waisson
    0
    16 September 2013 17: 13
    I didn’t read the comments but I was very glad about it, I talked about it in old articles, the stronger our grouping, both surface and underwater, plus the Chinese fleet, and there will be no invasion of Syria (the maneuvers are interference) if the map corresponds to reality then ++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++ soldier
  73. Deadman
    0
    16 September 2013 20: 07
    It's nice to see our military presence in the world. This is a bone in the throat of the entire West)))
  74. +1
    16 September 2013 20: 47
    I saw a German - "OKER" - I saw and was on this boat several years ago, at a naval parade in Riga.. pure spy)))
  75. 0
    17 September 2013 04: 36
    yes, there is clearly a direct conflict of interests and who doesn’t understand
  76. 0
    17 September 2013 04: 39
    Yes, there is clearly a clash of interests, and who doesn’t understand?
  77. 0
    17 September 2013 16: 01
    What confidence is there that they will not engage in battle? And if, like Lyachina (blessed his memory), it’s like an accident. Even in our wildest dreams we cannot guess who is playing what kind of game there. The ships will actually be in the combat zone. If in the case of “Kursk” water and big guys hid everything, then it won’t work here. Where some kind of “harpoon” will come from or not a “harpoon” at all, who knows. The Persian monarchies are skillfully pitting the two superpowers against each other now, but who can guarantee that they will not take advantage of such a unique chance to pit us against each other? Are such forces not enough? It is clear that the boats and the Saudis have slightly different interests that coincide with the interests of certain circles in the states, but many people can try to play their card. And you will need to react immediately.
  78. 0
    17 September 2013 16: 05
    Well done in the area of ​​Cyprus, well done! soldier
  79. terp 50
    0
    18 September 2013 18: 54
    ... well, and?.. THIS IS OUR SEA... oh, that's what... THEY are coming to us for?..
    As stated by US Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus, the United States will station four Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers at the Rota naval base in Spain... From October 1, 2013 to October 30, 2014, the Ross and Ross destroyers will be transferred to the Rota base. "Donald Cook" from a base in Norfolk, Virginia. These destroyers are equipped with the Aegis multifunctional combat information and control system. The destroyer USS Porter, also based in Norfolk, and the destroyer USS Carney from Mayport, Florida, will move to Rota in fiscal 2015. These warships will be involved not only in the missile defense of Europe, but if necessary, they can also be transferred to the central command of the US Armed Forces, that is, to the region of the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea.
  80. 0
    18 September 2013 21: 17
    Out of one and a half dozen of our ships, a maximum of six are combat...(((Wouldn’t that be too few? Where are “Bora” and her brother hanging around? Isn’t it time to refresh yourself? No matter how late it is...
  81. 0
    19 September 2013 06: 54
    Why does Russia send ships to the Mediterranean?
    - As V.I. Lenin said: “Learn military affairs in a real way.” Only in a real situation will you gain control and maneuvering skills, even with the ships in a dispersed position. In such operations, new commanders and naval commanders are forged. And we will build ships, and we will build ships!!!

    - Those who read the site materials carefully have received the answer - the task has been completed by the ships of the Russian Navy. Well done guys, 7 feet to you.
  82. 0
    19 September 2013 07: 14
    Why does Russia send ships to the Mediterranean?
    - As V.I. Lenin said: “Study, study and study military affairs in a real way.” Only in a real situation can future commanders and naval commanders be trained.
    - Those who read the site materials carefully have found the answer - the ships have completed their task.
  83. 0
    19 September 2013 13: 22
    What do you mean why? The Mediterranean Sea is the waterway from the Black Sea to the Atlantic. It doesn’t matter what others think, it is the right of a sovereign country to have access to the Ocean and increase its military presence in neutral waters in cases of rapid response to possible threats. And that’s it, don’t give any more official explanations in the media if you need to deploy the fleet. To put it simply, to combat terrorism in the region adjacent to the Russian naval base, and nothing.
    PS Or a variant of exercises as close as possible to combat ones.

    The main thing was brought out because it was necessary. It is not in the traditions of Russia to ask permission on such issues.