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Why does Russia send ships to the Mediterranean?

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The attention of the whole world is focused on the situation around Syria. Analysts are trying to predict the exact date of the military invasion of foreign countries and make other predictions. For example, the possibility of participation in the conflict of a country and even the likelihood that the intervention in Syria will result in an armed conflict between third countries is being considered. The forecasts for a major war often feature Russian ships on duty in the Mediterranean. According to some experts and some of the public concerned, it is the Russian Navy that will become the force that will not allow NATO countries to strike at Syria or even help it defend itself.




Judging by the available information, Russia is not going to openly participate in a possible war. However, in the Mediterranean at the present time there are about a dozen Russian warships and an unnamed number of submarines. They perform various combat training tasks, but at the same time they do not take any aggressive actions. Russian cruisers, large landing ships, etc., to put it in modern terminology, carry out their presence in the region and follow the current situation, but no more.

It must be remembered that in the event of a conflict, Russian sailors will most likely have to perform new tasks directly related to the situation in the region. It is unlikely that it will strike at any targets or defend ground and surface objects. The composition of the Russian group in the Mediterranean Sea speaks in favor of such an assumption. Almost half of the ships there are destined for the transportation and landing of troops. Large landing ships (BDK) of the Black Sea, Baltic and even Pacific fleets are simply not intended for active combat operations at sea. However, they can be used as a transport for the necessary goods, including military ones.

In recent days, the question of finding Russian landing ships near Syria has been further developed. A few days ago, the Nikolai Filchenkov BDK came out of Novorossiysk. The ship headed to the eastern part of the Mediterranean, which caused a specific reaction of some foreign media. Large landing ships of the 1171 project, to which Nikolay Filchenkov belongs, are capable of transporting over one thousand tons of various cargoes. Probably, it was precisely the cargo accepted by the ship in Novorossiysk, the composition of which was not announced, that caused ambiguous publications in the foreign press.



The use of large amphibious ships as a transport of certain goods required by the Syrian army, at the moment has no official confirmation. A number of facts may serve as an indirect confirmation of this assumption, but the Russian leadership has not yet disclosed the true reasons for the transfer of a large number of BDK to the area of ​​possible conflict.

In this regard, it is worth considering the second version of the presence of landing ships. In Syria, despite the long civil war, there is still a large number of Russians who came there on a business trip or permanently. In the event of a full-scale conflict, the BDK will be able to take them on board and deliver them to Russia. Amphibious ships in the region, depending on the specific type, are capable of carrying everyone from 200 to 300. Thus, in one flight, seven BDKs can return approximately 1500-2000 Russians to their homeland.

And yet, in addition to the amphibious ships in the Mediterranean, there are ships of other types. Particular attention is the hike of the missile cruiser "Moscow". He recently visited the ports of Cuba and Nicaragua. Now, having completed all the planned combat training tasks in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, he is heading for the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea. As already mentioned, Russian ships are unlikely to fight with anyone if intervention in Syria begins, but finding a ship in the region with powerful air defense systems and a developed radar complex will allow Russia to monitor all events and, if necessary, assist friendly Syria .



The Russian ships in the eastern part of the Mediterranean, using their radar systems, are able to create a continuous surveillance zone covering both the territory of Syria and the nearby waters. This will allow the Russian military to observe the movements of NATO ships, track missile launches and strike aircraft sorties. At the same time, Russian sailors can be not only silent observers, but also informants. The information received can be transmitted to the relevant authorities of the Russian Ministry of Defense, and in addition, to the Syrian headquarters. This may be the help promised by the Russian leadership.

Thus, a fairly plausible picture is formed of how, in the event of an intervention, Russian ships arriving in the Mediterranean Sea will work. Naturally, in real conditions assumptions can either be confirmed or be refuted. However, in the current situation it is impossible to make more accurate predictions. With confidence we can only say that the Russian ships will not engage in battle with foreign ones and Russia will not be drawn into the war.


On the materials of the sites:
http://ria.ru/
http://itar-tass.com/
http://interfax.ru/
http://rus.ruvr.ru/
http://bbc.co.uk/
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  1. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 13 September 2013 07: 12
    24
    Why why? So that the Americans had something to think about. I am not enthusiastic about the Assad regime, but the more he kills these bearded bastards, the easier it will be for us to live. Nobody will fight for Syria, but it’s quite possible to provide target designation for the Yakhonts. Now is not 1999 year.
    1. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 13 September 2013 07: 21
      96
      Quote: Kibalchish
      I'm not thrilled with the Assad regime

      what are your complaints, you can ask? laughing
      1. Natalia
        Natalia 13 September 2013 09: 17
        33
        This is wonderful, do not be shy to support Syria. Yeah, who would have thought, 10-12 years ago, that such a thing would be possible fellow We have grown so much that we can interfere with the Americans, in my opinion, the result of the revival of the fleet in the face. This is wonderful ... Of course, there will not be any war between the United States and Russia, but the fact of such a demonstration of power, he cannot but rejoice.
        1. elvira
          elvira 13 September 2013 15: 49
          14
          Russia and Iran support Syria .. The rest are shy ....
          Quote: Natalia
          do not be shy
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 13 September 2013 20: 36
            +3
            I’ll get in here, in the raspberry, in the women's battalion. Natalia, Elvira ... It’s a pity there is no Thundering today, like her branch, that is the topic. So, girls, are we going to fight between us? How is your mood? Ready to wet the vaunted marines?
            1. elvira
              elvira 14 September 2013 09: 52
              +7
              Quote: aksakal
              So, girls, are we going to fight between us? How is your mood? Ready to wet the vaunted marines?

              No, my dear, women are opponents of war (for myself, of course, I answer)! God grant that you do not have to resolve the conflict by force and "kill" someone. But arrogance to knock the Americans off is a good thing. I hope that the issue will still be resolved diplomatically. This will be a double victory for our country.
              1. Quiet
                Quiet 15 September 2013 13: 48
                0
                No, my dear, women are opponents of a warrior

                ... Well, when for you beautiful guys squatters break ... ????
                1. elvira
                  elvira 18 September 2013 15: 37
                  +1
                  Quote: Quiet
                  Well, when for you beautiful guys squatters break ... ????


                  Do you think the whales in Syria are breaking because of women now? laughing
        2. DS22
          DS22 17 September 2013 18: 58
          -3
          Well, yes, a revival ..... I would like to see something newer under the Russian flag in the oceans ... Tactical tasks in this area are still capable of fulfilling our formation, but unfortunately, it really affect the fighting unable! Yes, and our SUPERBOY PRESIDENT, in my opinion, just has a thin gut to order the combat use of the forces and means of the Navy in this conflict.
          1. Kasyanov Sergey
            Kasyanov Sergey 17 September 2013 19: 48
            +2
            This is YOUR gut
          2. Andrey Skokovsky
            Andrey Skokovsky 18 September 2013 20: 18
            0
            Quote: DS22
            Well, yes, a revival ..... I would like to see something newer under the Russian flag in the oceans ... Tactical tasks in this area are still capable of fulfilling our formation, but unfortunately, it really affect the fighting unable! Yes, and our SUPERBOY PRESIDENT, in my opinion, just has a thin gut to order the combat use of the forces and means of the Navy in this conflict.


            you probably just made a mistake with the forum
            here it is advisable to think first, and then poke the keys.
            1. Vintorez333
              Vintorez333 19 September 2013 01: 15
              0
              My opinion is that the forum should be objective, otherwise it loses its meaning.
      2. Siberian German
        Siberian German 14 September 2013 12: 42
        0
        but the fact that we need Assad so far - but the crisis will end, how will he behave?
      3. KILLAvolt
        KILLAvolt 17 September 2013 15: 53
        +2
        I'm not thrilled with the Assad regime
        ... and you, by chance, do not have Obama's last name? laughing
    2. Civil
      Civil 13 September 2013 07: 21
      +9
      Well, like, "We'll threaten the Swede from here!" Well, the personnel should be skated in a situation as close as possible to a combat situation. However, why do supply vessels and tugs in the picture ?!
      1. TRex
        TRex 13 September 2013 08: 02
        13
        What do you mean why"? To show the Kremlin's militaristic aspirations. There, apart from Panteleev, there is no significant unit. Even PM-138 was drawn - I remember it from the 80s of the lieutenant's years, probably in Tartus it was welded to the pier so that it would not sink. If they draw tugs and transports, it means that the whaleboats scurrying between the ships are ready to show under the flag of the Russian Navy - they say, you see what kind of armada Putin sent against our small cruisers, frigates and nuclear submarines.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 13 September 2013 08: 31
          10
          But what about the picture with the ships, why there are Amer’s submarines, but ours aren’t ????? Secretly clear, then there is nothing to draw the balance of power.
          1. ed65b
            ed65b 13 September 2013 09: 30
            21
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            But what about the picture with the ships, why there are Amer’s submarines, but ours aren’t ????? Secretly clear, then there is nothing to draw the balance of power.

            Sanya, Amer’s boats afloat and ours are under water, how do you know how many there are? laughing
            1. Docent1984
              Docent1984 19 September 2013 16: 54
              0
              Like "it" doesn't sink?)))
        2. Orel
          Orel 13 September 2013 08: 32
          22
          At the same time, Russian sailors can be not only silent observers, but also informants.


          And they can, on completely legitimate grounds, shoot down American cruise missiles that fly dangerously close to Russian warships ...
          1. Dangerous
            Dangerous 13 September 2013 09: 02
            0
            What kind of law is this?
            1. igor36
              igor36 13 September 2013 09: 39
              22
              Quote: Dangerous
              What kind of law is this?

              Convention on the law of the sea and on the open sea, as well as the law on the defense of the Russian Federation, the charter of the Russian Navy.
        3. Kubanets
          Kubanets 13 September 2013 18: 32
          10
          Sadly. In the late 80s he worked on the tanker "Marshal Biryuzov" to support the 5th Mediterranean flotilla. Then there was power. But now it hurts to watch
          1. bublic82009
            bublic82009 14 September 2013 00: 23
            +2
            totally agree with you. The KChF Museum has a map with the presence of our ships in the Mediterranean. in power was
            1. Kubanets
              Kubanets 23 September 2013 14: 02
              0
              So there were two supply points. And for each detachment up to 15 ships
      2. transbiz-ka
        transbiz-ka 13 September 2013 10: 58
        +6
        Dear, I’m a self-military motorist. And I want to say that in a convoy of normal commanders and commanders, there must always be present, if not means to provide maintenance and repair, then at least evacuation ...
      3. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 13 September 2013 11: 51
        +4
        but because while this is so, unfortunately our fleet is not young, and the autonomy is fraught with breakdowns, alas, this is a fact.
      4. GSH-18
        GSH-18 18 September 2013 16: 04
        0
        Quote: Civil
        Well, like, "We'll threaten the Swede from here!" Well, the personnel should be skated in a situation as close as possible to a combat situation. However, why do supply vessels and tugs in the picture ?!

        Turn on your imagination, and you will immediately understand everything. They carry anti-aircraft and anti-aircraft missiles there. And ships of the type of the flagship guards missile cruiser of the Black Sea Fleet "Moskva" will guard the naval group and at the same time serve as early warning centers for missile launches and departures of American aviation groups. For ground (in Syria) anti-aircraft and strike missile systems. The personnel of which will not be able to be identified as Russian military personnel, which means they will not be able to strike a preemptive strike against Russia. soldier
    3. sancho
      sancho 13 September 2013 10: 45
      15
      Generally interesting, And how do you like this idea? What if our ships begin to destroy flying tomahawks? After all, firstly, this is a free target, secondly, whether anyone will present a claim to shoot it down, and thirdly, this is a good practice for sailors. Unshot targets will finish off the Syrian air defense.
      AND! It’s a very interesting idea - to tell us that any launch of a rocket in the direction of a Russian ship will immediately be retaliatory ... for the aggressor!

      This is just an assumption, what if?
      1. papik09
        papik09 13 September 2013 14: 41
        +2
        drinks drinks drinks hi
        100%, class!
      2. captain dvv
        captain dvv 16 September 2013 00: 19
        -3
        Quote: sancho
        Generally interesting, And how do you like this idea? What if our ships begin to destroy flying tomahawks? After all, firstly, this is a free target, secondly, whether anyone will present a claim to shoot it down, and thirdly, this is a good practice for sailors. Unshot targets will finish off the Syrian air defense.
        AND! It’s a very interesting idea - to tell us that any launch of a rocket in the direction of a Russian ship will immediately be retaliatory ... for the aggressor!

        This is just an assumption, what if?


        As soon as they begin to destroy the tomahawks, they themselves will immediately turn into free targets. I hope that the leadership of the army understands this and the tasks are different except for collecting information.
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 18 September 2013 16: 16
        +1
        Quote: sancho
        Generally interesting, And how do you like this idea? What if our ships start destroying flying tomahawks?

        Do you want to start a world war? Do you really believe that the destruction of the Tomogavks from Russian ships will go unnoticed and unpunished? lol
        For any such action there should be a serious justification and an even more serious cover. Read my post on top.
      4. novobranets
        novobranets 18 September 2013 18: 59
        0
        Quote: sancho
        It’s a very interesting idea - to tell us that any launch of a rocket in the direction of a Russian ship will immediately be retaliatory ... for the aggressor!

        It is tempting to practice, of course. Such an idea already existed. But as you imagine, declare the United States its intention to shoot down their missiles. On what basis? Before launching missiles, their ships will take up such positions when the flight path of the rocket will pass away from our ships. In addition, the United States will almost certainly warn the command of the Russian fleet that Russian ships are not the target of the attack. Russia and Syria do not have an agreement on mutual military assistance, and the opening of fire by the Russian fleet located in the territorial waters of Syria on US missiles will be regarded as armed intervention and attack on the us fleet. The balance of power, to put it mildly, is strongly not in our favor. Lose the squadron due to several downed rockets? I fully support you, in terms of assistance to Syria, but so far the maximum that we can do is to fix missile launches and warn the Syrians. hi
    4. vjhbc
      vjhbc 13 September 2013 11: 03
      13 th
      I’m what I think probably not all Russian captains were squinting and some may have some problems at home and now imagine this situation amers begin to stomp Syria everything flies overhead and everything is cocked and from home comes an order not to intervene and here’s one of the Russians the captains decide how much you can endure already and plant the amers on the nimitz in response, the rest of the Russians see that they are killing and getting into the slaughter AND THERE TELL ME WHAT WILL BE NEXT?
      Quote: Kibalchish
      Why why? So that the Americans had something to think about. I am not enthusiastic about the Assad regime, but the more he kills these bearded bastards, the easier it will be for us to live. Nobody will fight for Syria, but it’s quite possible to provide target designation for the Yakhonts. Now is not 1999 year.
      1. smile
        smile 13 September 2013 16: 22
        +9
        vjhbc
        Who gave you the right to decide that one of the Russian captains was squinting at all (although you hypocritically assume that not all are possible)? Your twisted conscience? Or are these the consequences of oligophrenia? I don’t know who you are by nationality, I don’t think so, since it is unlikely that any people will consider theirs to be the one who was squinting ... with which I congratulate you ....
        1. vjhbc
          vjhbc 13 September 2013 19: 27
          -3
          smile
          it is true that you think that the army is separate from the people and everything is fine there; all the great guys are fine with them and they have not succumbed to the contagion of consumption and the perpetrators do not care syndrome. about nationality, teach heraldry to recognize flags. and the rest is on your conscience. in general, koment needs to be read to the end and think a little before answering indignantly
          1. smile
            smile 14 September 2013 00: 24
            11
            vjhbc
            Your very harsh statement elicited a very harsh response. I read it carefully. And the text outraged me. Undoubtedly, the statement "the people and the army are one" is true in every sense, and in that. what you just said, too. But the fact that the commanders of the ships of our Navy do not start without orders, at their discretion, I do not see any signs of warping ... and I consider such statements to be an insult to our sailors, even kill them.
            Yes, I re-read my comment, it fell disproportionately from the neck, I apologize ... but you should also correct your statement.
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 14 September 2013 00: 43
              +7
              Quote: smile
              But the fact that the commanders of the ships of our Navy do not start without orders,

              Hello toothy drinks Someone Kuznetsov, a man and the Tavkr, at one time gave the order to comply with the ship's charter, and under certain conditions there are no instructions from above request laughing
              1. smile
                smile 15 September 2013 00: 25
                +1
                Ruslan67
                Hello myself! .. no less toothy ... also clawed :))) I heard about these cases, to be honest, only out of the corner of my ear ... but I think he did not mean these cases ... although, on the guy, of course, I drove so hard in vain - a couple of minutes before - I just barked with one nationalist who argued that cowardice is a national trait of the Russian character and was seriously angry, I go here and see "sss-skipping Russian commanders" - and hi-the bar fell :))) ... but I have already repented ... :)))
            2. novobranets
              novobranets 18 September 2013 19: 06
              0
              Quote: smile
              But the fact that the commanders of the ships of our Navy do not start without orders, at their discretion, military operations

              I agree with you, and there are no idiots among our captains. And to start World War III, on my personal impulse, in my opinion, the top of idiocy.
          2. Current 72
            Current 72 14 September 2013 01: 47
            +3
            I’m Belarusian, I put you - (minus), think why.
            1. smile
              smile 15 September 2013 00: 27
              -1
              Current 72
              Thank. As far as possible I compensate for the disadvantages that someone for some reason put you.
          3. Batman
            Batman 14 September 2013 22: 19
            +3
            We have excellent officers, captains of fleets !, who put Honor, Motherland above all else ... And I agree with Smile, it is an insult to declare who the captain is capable of attacking an "expected friend" or "probable enemy" at his whim
      2. Coward
        Coward 13 September 2013 16: 48
        +3
        I apologize for the clarification, but on ships - commanders, and captains on ships.
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    5. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 13 September 2013 11: 33
      +2
      Targeting means highlighting the target with a special locator. If your ship began to be highlighted in this way, then something is already flying in you, or it will fly. This act is a direct participation in hostilities on a certain side, and that is how it will be interpreted. The captain of the opposite side receives the right to eliminate the threat by force of arms, and will be right, and everyone understands this. So if, according to Putin, we will not fight, we will also not highlight anything. Illuminate the air situation - yes, warn about launches - yes, transmit the coordinates of the ships - most likely yes. Interference is most likely not. Otherwise, soon some kind of Georgia will shell our ships illuminated by the Americans.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 13 September 2013 12: 13
        +9
        The presence of our ships is one of the main deterrents to US aggression against Syria. And our ships have the right to shoot missiles if they fly in their direction and can pose a potential threat to our ships - it was not for nothing that the exercises were conducted recently with firing - the article was about this in VO.
        1. bif
          bif 13 September 2013 12: 55
          36
          I agree with you completely, I’ll only clarify - for reasons of defense, our ships can be shot down, being outside the territorial waters of Syria, in order to maintain neutrality.
          But this is still lyrics about a POSSIBLE future.
          But about the present - 7 BDK from the whole group, as the author observes, is not simple and I want to share extremely interesting information.
          "... Some details of Putin's conversation with Obama are becoming known. So, the proposal to transfer the Syrian chemical weapons under the control of the international community came from Putin, and today Putin does not hide it. Lavrov is modest and says that this is supposedly" not entirely Russian. proposal ", it is clear that the Russian side is simply saving Obama, and he was glad of this turn of events, but when he heard that in return, as a deterrent, Russia would provide air defense systems to Assad, this led Obama to that very sadness. the task was to take the lukewarm Assad and, having removed chemical weapons from Syria, Obama considered the task completed, but when he learned that in return the Syrian sky would be unapproachable, the sadness and longing in his “goiter stole his breath.” In the end, what is happening - can be considered the lesser of evils.

          In fact, this only worsened the position of the United States and complicated the task for the Pentagon. All the risks of the Pentagon were still on the ground, that is, if American soldiers do not go to Syria, then chemical. weapons are powerless against them. But if, instead of sarin, Syria has the latest air defense, then the danger is no longer only during a ground invasion, but also during air attacks. In fact, Putin hobbled Obama lovingly and tenderly. Without air raids, no one would dare to send American troops to Syria. Here it is, the famous Putin overstag! On the one hand, he seems to be inferior, but on the other hand, his adversary sees that the situation has only worsened for him ... it is said that Russia is transporting weapons to Syria not only on its warships, which all come to the shores of Syria, but so also uses civilian ships "http://www.contrpost.com/ru/78-2013-05-10-13-45-19/3334-obstruktsiya-po-chernomu
    6. AVV
      AVV 13 September 2013 13: 47
      +4
      What? The Saudi regime would be better ??? I think hardly! Such a regime was in Egypt in the person of Muslim brothers and where is it now ???
  2. xetai9977
    xetai9977 13 September 2013 07: 18
    20
    Naturally, there can be no participation of Russia in the Syrian conflict. Let's be realistic, this is called a flag show. Of course, in the event of an attack on Syria, all information about missile launches, take-offs of planes will be transmitted to the Syrians, but no more. If the US fleet receives an order to strike at the Syrians, they will strike regardless of whether there are ships of the Russian Federation or not. NATO aircraft of these ships. Any rash action can lead to a war between the USA and the Russian Federation, and no one will allow this.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 13 September 2013 08: 32
      10
      Quote: xetai9977
      Naturally, there can be no participation of Russia in the Syrian conflict.

      Unless, under American bombs, our citizens, who are not few there, will not die. Further, the scenario is not predictable.
      1. S-200
        S-200 13 September 2013 10: 01
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Unless, under American bombs, our citizens, who are not few there, will not die. Further, the scenario is not predictable

        In the event of aggression against Syria, no one can forbid us to deploy several full-fledged mobile regiments of military and object air defense (of course with our specialists).
        It is quite reasonable to do this after the first NATO strikes on the Syrian air defenses (replenish as losses). But NOT BEFORE BEFORE! Therefore, there are so many large landing ships with full holds of "humanitarian aid" ... wink
        And also to supply additionally Iskander-E and Smerch strike missile systems, anti -arable cruise missiles ...
        SUCH forces of the Russian Navy (with the killer of aircraft carriers "Moscow") of the Russian Federation are concentrated not at all for "observation" functions (two reconnaissance ships are enough for this)!
        So your colleagues, from sovereign Caspian sea powers, your poorly hidden skepticism about the ability of the Russian Navy in confronting the NATO Navy - is not motivated by anything ...
        The facts say otherwise ....
        1. Strong
          Strong 15 September 2013 19: 06
          0
          Quote: S-200
          Quote: eplewke
          Who is stopping us from shooting down Amer’s axes? Sounds fantastic, but what if?

          No fiction! Missiles attacking a warship will be downed whenever possible!
          WITHOUT any doubt and hesitation ....
          A ship is a sovereign territory of Russia subjected to a missile attack!
          Any questions ???


          There is. One. Explain how axes can threaten ships? It is hard to argue, there used to be one species of the ax-like family, for work on ships. Yes, with the collapse of the Union, they altered it into land tactical axes.
        2. captain dvv
          captain dvv 16 September 2013 00: 34
          -1
          Quote: S-200
          The facts suggest otherwise ...


          What facts suggest otherwise.

          To be honest, even during the USSR, the alignment of forces at sea was far from in our favor, not to mention the current state of the Russian Navy.
          Any sane person understands that we will lose any conflict with the NATO bloc outside our borders. And the participation of our specialists and the supply of weapons during the acute phase of the confrontation is a direct participation in the conflict with all the disastrous consequences for us.
      2. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 13 September 2013 11: 21
        +1
        Seriously? What kind of weather do you have in America?
        1. papik09
          papik09 13 September 2013 14: 46
          +4
          Fucking weather, and not enough in diapers pharmacies .... wassat
    2. SPACE
      SPACE 13 September 2013 09: 22
      10
      Quote: xetai9977
      Any rash action can lead to a war between the US and the Russian Federation, and no one will allow this.

      You are confusing cause and effect. The "rash action" is primarily related to US actions. "Demonstration of the flag" of the Russian Federation is a reciprocal move "with a knight in defense of a pawn". The next move is for the United States, and here is the dilemma, whether to go for a rash action or not, something suggests that in the zone of responsibility of the Russian fleet, they will not do anything. The point here is to use only such "peaceful" steps that would not lead to an armed conflict between the US and the Russian Federation; a different solution is unacceptable not only for the Russian Federation, but also for the United States. Or do you think that the USA is not on friendly terms with the logic?
    3. eplewke
      eplewke 13 September 2013 09: 43
      +2
      But under international law, the Captain of the ship can decide to shoot down enemy KRs if they threaten the safety of the ship or are in close proximity. Who is stopping us from shooting down Amer’s axes? Sounds fantastic, but what if?
      1. S-200
        S-200 13 September 2013 10: 20
        13
        Quote: eplewke
        Who is stopping us from shooting down Amer’s axes? Sounds fantastic, but what if?

        No fiction! Missiles attacking a warship will be downed whenever possible!
        WITHOUT any doubt and hesitation ....
        A ship is a sovereign territory of Russia subjected to a missile attack!
        Any questions ???
        1. igor36
          igor36 13 September 2013 10: 54
          +8
          Quote: S-200
          No fiction! Missiles attacking a warship will be downed whenever possible!
          WITHOUT any doubt and hesitation ....
          A ship is a sovereign territory of Russia subjected to a missile attack!
          Any questions ???

          And moreover, in order to not have consequences like an erroneous retaliatory strike from the Russian Navy, the Americans are obliged to warn about the start of hostilities in advance, indicate the area of ​​hostilities and offer to leave it, i.e. surprise factor is lost.
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 18 September 2013 19: 56
            0
            Quote: igor36
            must warn of the start of hostilities in advance, indicate the area of ​​hostilities and offer to leave, i.e. surprise factor is lost.

            The surprise factor has long been lost.
      2. matross
        matross 13 September 2013 15: 19
        +8
        Quote: eplewke
        But under international law, the captain of the ship can decide to shoot down enemy KR

        Yes, forget about the rights of any international. There is no them in fact for a long time !!! Like the captains on the ships. There is the right of the strong. And the ship has a commander! Lawyers, damn it ...
    4. Mhpv
      Mhpv 13 September 2013 09: 49
      +6
      It is not an unimportant fact that this American strike will no longer be unexpected for the Syrians thanks to the control of the situation by our ships, which means that it is possible to avoid large losses in the first hours, and this I think annoys the NATO too, and some, having realized, refused to participate. Plus, there’s no need to chase the American ships and boats to collect data, and all kinds of boats create additional noise, which means interference with boats, so that’s also a plus. What kind of sonar mess is happening there!
      1. S-200
        S-200 13 September 2013 12: 26
        +5
        Quote: mhpv
        It is not an unimportant fact that this American strike will no longer be unexpected for the Syrians thanks to the control of the situation by our ships, which means that it is possible to avoid large losses in the early hours, and this I think is also annoying to the NATO people, realizing that they refused to participate

        Thus, the Syrian mobile air defense systems can (and should) organize a flexible, maneuverable, timely air defense out of attack! The blow will mainly fall on stationary objects ...
        Well, in response, the Syrian special forces will arrange the promised "naughty" in the metropolis ...
        turning the snickering American society into a panicky herd of crazies mad in congestion ...
        That's why Obama has such a "lowered" look ...
        1. Metlik
          Metlik 13 September 2013 15: 07
          +3
          If the Syrian cargo ship with clubs approaches New York, the United States of the mattress will remember that to fight is to risk not only other people's lives.
        2. Mhpv
          Mhpv 13 September 2013 18: 17
          -1
          Quote: S-200
          snickering american society


          In a word BIGMAKI or HAMBURGERS
          1. sub307
            sub307 14 September 2013 19: 48
            0
            Very junk food.
        3. alex86
          alex86 14 September 2013 20: 58
          +1
          Quote: S-200
          the Syrian special forces will arrange the promised "nix" in the metropolis ...

          Adults, like people, but believe in fairy tales ...
    5. vjhbc
      vjhbc 13 September 2013 11: 18
      0
      and how it will not allow if someone has a head over
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 13 September 2013 20: 27
        0
        Quote: vjhbc
        and how it will not allow if someone has a head over

        More precisely, at whom it pereklinitsya?
    6. Kubanets
      Kubanets 13 September 2013 19: 17
      +2
      To pursue a policy of "gunboats" you need to have them. Let's admit our fleet is on the verge of developing a resource
  3. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 13 September 2013 07: 20
    27
    Another ship joined.
    The patrol ship of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation "Smetlivy" left on Thursday 12.09.13 from Sevastopol to the Mediterranean Sea. Before that, the Ukrainian customs detained him for more than three hours. The customs officers re-formed the lists of the entire crew, checked the documents, asked many questions, as if they were deliberately dragging out time.
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 13 September 2013 07: 45
      42
      Ukrainians in relation to Russia never sit on the ass forever, you always need to do minor dirty tricks, like Shopoklyak. It seems like neighbors are also taken, but either envious over the top (that Russia solves world problems, but nobody pays attention to them), or xs what else ...
      1. MilaPhone
        MilaPhone 13 September 2013 07: 59
        24
        I think that in this case it is not so much a dirty trick of Russia as a curtsy to the West. Like we are doing everything we can, take us to Europe.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 13 September 2013 08: 59
          11
          Well, yes, as "help" in Georgia
          "But" They (the customs officers) began to re-form the lists of the entire crew, looked through all the documents, asked questions, it seems as if the process was artificially delayed, "the source said. According to him," Sharp-witted "had to leave Sevastopol for nine in the morning local time, but at noon the ship "has not even started the main engine and has not begun preparations for going to sea." The source stressed that "such delays" in his practice have not yet been. "
          Meanwhile, in early September, a protracted dispute between the Black Sea Fleet and Ukrainian customs escalated. The discussions concerned the tax on goods that are supplied for the life of the fleet. The Russian side (which currently pays both VAT and customs duties when importing similar products into Ukraine) insists that payments are levied illegally. Kiev, in turn, argues that the Black Sea Fleet has no reason to use the benefits.
          http://www.versii.com/news/286776/
          1. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel 13 September 2013 10: 57
            11
            For some reason, I’m sure that Shtat’s ships, when leaving their foreign naval bases, are not subject to such executions. Why then do the Russian naval commanders of the Black Sea Fleet allow themselves to be mocked at this?
          2. Украинец
            Украинец 15 September 2013 23: 50
            -6
            ... At a speed, the "Kharkov agreements" are denounced ... and by 2017, welcome ... "with things on the way out" .... You rent 18 hectares for a penny ... (000 million bucks) ... .for three times less area "amers" pay the Germans a billion bucks ... Get out ... or pay as expected ...
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 16 September 2013 03: 03
              +4
              Quote: Ukrainian
              ... At a speed, the "Kharkov agreements" are denounced ... and by 2017, welcome ... "with things on the way out" .... You rent 18 hectares for a penny ... (000 million bucks) ... .for three times less area "amers" pay the Germans a billion bucks ... Get out ... or pay as expected ...

              Do you want the Crimean Guantanamo? laughing
        2. Phase
          Phase 13 September 2013 15: 13
          +6
          Quote: Milafon
          I think that in this case it is not so much a dirty trick of Russia as a curtsy to the West. Like we are doing everything we can, take us to Europe.

          I think it’s not necessary to hang all dogs on Ukrainians. I am absolutely convinced that the delay of 3 hours was purely technical and was due simply to gouging as common in Ukraine as we are.
          It is unlikely that this was done intentionally - a three-hour delay will not affect the time of arrival of the ship to its destination, except that the speed in the way will have to be increased and fuel used up. But only that.
      2. Manager
        Manager 13 September 2013 10: 17
        11
        Quote: Dangerous
        like Shopoklyak


        Yes, it’s already disgusting just because of this. Here you sit and break yourself and try to convince yourself that Ukrainians are friends, brothers and, in general, the people of Ukraine are friendly to us, and then such news comes. And so every time. I do not want to, of course, but soon I will spit on these self-persuasions.
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 18 September 2013 20: 03
          0
          Quote: Manager
          Here you sit yourself breaking and trying to convince yourself that Ukrainians are friends, brothers and, in general, the people of Ukraine are friendly to us,

          And they are struggling to convince us otherwise. request
      3. Mikola
        Mikola 13 September 2013 11: 47
        41 th
        you are strange, you want to wage a trade war, not to fulfill signed agreements and not have reciprocal dirty tricks. Ukraine has its own "world" problems, get it and get it. And Russia itself creates many world problems out of the blue. Do you think the Assad regime will hold out for a long time?) But Russia will spend a lot of money on this regime, although the result is known in advance.
        1. Vrungel78
          Vrungel78 13 September 2013 13: 56
          16
          Mykola. Our watchman just out of respect stopped at your customs. And so he could send tries and swim further.
          1. Украинец
            Украинец 16 September 2013 00: 21
            -2
            ... So let him send ... why be ashamed ... and we will "send" you faster than 2017 ...
        2. papik09
          papik09 13 September 2013 14: 51
          +6
          BALL! YOU ARE BALBES! am am am
        3. bif
          bif 13 September 2013 15: 05
          25
          But Russia will spend a lot of money on this regime, although the result is known in advance.
          The fact that Russia will spend or spent on Syria will BACK in full, but what was spent on Ukraine-consider the toilet down.
        4. aleshka
          aleshka 14 September 2013 06: 57
          +3
          Well, if you can in more detail, someone does not perform ??? it’s you who are always trying constantly to treat hemorrhoid with the tongue of Europe, but it turns out badly, you see a rough language !!
        5. DJEIN8
          DJEIN8 14 September 2013 23: 20
          0
          What should he put cons ... Mikola he is Mikola ......
          It is difficult to expect prudence, depth of understanding of the situation in the world, responsibility for what is said to oneself and others when the main are OWN "world" problems and their main component is financial costs ..........
        6. Украинец
          Украинец 15 September 2013 23: 56
          -4
          ... But this is how they have ... "controlled democracy" ... as I want, so ... u ... We will spit in your face, and you bow down ... Let them collect monatas ... get out of Crimea ... We'll hand it over to the Americans for a billion ... let them use it ... even for money ...
      4. papik09
        papik09 13 September 2013 14: 49
        +4
        Unfortunately, you are right, sir ..... crying
        1. Jake danzels
          Jake danzels 13 September 2013 17: 24
          12 th
          How bad we are, you are up to us with a pure heart, and we are ... scared.
      5. gallville
        gallville 13 September 2013 17: 11
        -9
        Respected! According to the constitution of Ukraine - Ukraine is an off-block neutral state. Using the leased ports as a bridgehead in hostilities against other countries, the tenant (in this case, Russia) automatically draws Ukraine into the hostilities. From here and such a delight in the use of warships deployed in the Crimea. Want to fight, move forward from Novorossiysk or from somewhere else. Nobody has yet canceled international law and the opponent (be it Georgia or the NATO bloc) of the tenant (in this case, and so far Russia) has the full right to deliver both a preemptive and a retaliatory strike.
        1. bif
          bif 13 September 2013 18: 17
          10
          Ukraine is an off-block neutral state dear heart, if it were like that, it wouldn’t arm Georgia in front of 08.08.08 and our planes wouldn’t knock it off with Ukrainian military personnel .... so say thank you that Ukraine is still a state ... and even with the Constitution .
          1. gallville
            gallville 13 September 2013 18: 35
            18 th
            Quote: bif
            it wouldn’t have armed Georgia before 08.08.08 and HAD BEEN NOT BEATED

            1. The sale of defensive weapons is purely a matter of two states.
            Quote: bif
            with Ukrainian military personnel our planes ....

            Watch your mercenaries we ourselves will somehow deal with ours. Yours even fought in Chechnya against your own.
            Quote: bif
            . so say thanks that Ukraine is still a state

            1. They didn’t drink at the Brudershaft.
            2. In Ukraine, 48 million people. The Russian Federation washed in blood from Chechnya from 3 million. Do you want the next president to have a surname ending in -CO?))))
            1. VDV 80-82
              VDV 80-82 13 September 2013 19: 19
              +3
              and how many of the 48 million Russians? and direct all of these milenas to Russia to protect the Kinutstso Square?)))))
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              2. gallville
                gallville 13 September 2013 19: 45
                -9
                In Chechnya there were 3 million. there, too, not all "rushed" - think.
                1. Polov
                  Polov 19 September 2013 18: 12
                  0
                  Bot are you. Selected the best example to prick more painfully? If people die, then more often they are innocent. You rejoice at your mind, God sees everything.
              3. German
                German 16 September 2013 00: 04
                +1
                As in my opinion, the German view is definitely from the realm of science fiction! In any case, the provinces (regions) of which are historically Little Russia! ... I think so!
            2. bif
              bif 13 September 2013 20: 32
              19
              1. no need to break the phrase ... your staff units of "neutral" air defense fought on the side of Georgia, and this is not a sale and mercenaries have nothing to do with it, if we are not talking about the UPA ...
              2. RF washed in Chechnya with blood... not for you to judge.
              3: Sudan is supplying the Syrian opposition using first the territory of Qatar and then Turkey ... Air traffic control in the region stated that at least three Ukrainian companies flew this year from Khartoum, the capital of Sudan, to airfield in western Turkey near the Syrian border
              Read more here: http://www.unian.net/news/589515-smi-sudan-postavlyaet-orujie-siriyskim-boevikam
              -aviatsiey-pod-ukrainskim-flagom.html
              4. Soon all the nasty things will come back to you and everything that was before that will be flowers.
              1. gallville
                gallville 14 September 2013 01: 00
                -8
                Quote: bif
                your staff units of "neutral" air defense fought on the side of Georgia, but this is not a sale and the mercenaries have nothing to do with it either

                What units defensive We want to sell weapons. Our problems.
                Quote: bif
                if it’s not about UPA ...

                Not everyone loves these and ours.
                Quote: bif
                2. The Russian Federation washed in Chechnya with blood ... not for you to judge.

                Well, it’s not for you to judge our actions in your state and its interests.
                Quote: bif
                3: Sudan is supplying the Syrian opposition using first the territory of Qatar and then Turkey ... Air traffic control in the region stated that at least three Ukrainian companies flew this year from Khartoum, the capital of Sudan, to airfield in western Turkey near the Syrian border

                So what? Civilian vessels are not entitled to transport military goods. There are claims of the official Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the UN and other tales of your media purely Your problems.
                Quote: bif
                4. Soon all the nasty things will come back to you and everything that was before that will be flowers.

                No comments. hang out the bottom imperk to your face.

                Z.Y. not in one of his posts I was not the first to show aggression already from 3 (THIRD) interlocutor I hear угрозы to my country. Do I still think we're brothers?
                1. Current 72
                  Current 72 14 September 2013 02: 16
                  +8
                  You DO NOT judge Russia for actions in Chechnya. There was a struggle for the integrity of Russian territory and a fight against Wahhabi terrorists. The truth is to blame Yeltsin for his statement: take sovereignty as much as you can carry.
                  1. gallville
                    gallville 14 September 2013 02: 32
                    10 th
                    Quote: Current 72
                    You DO NOT judge Russia for actions in Chechnya.

                    Well, then hands and desires away from my country. By the way, at least I would change the flag in my comments.
                    Quote: Current 72
                    The truth is Yeltsin to blame

                    And Carla’s dad, right?
                    Quote: Current 72
                    And so not for you

                    Exactly your level. You’re not worth much. From others, at least the arguments were worthy. Wipe up saliva - put the desired flag - EVERYTHING IS EQUAL TROLEMS WILL STAY =))))
                    1. Sevastopol
                      Sevastopol 18 September 2013 11: 23
                      0
                      This is let your newly-minted Ukrainians, thieves and traitors, swept out of the Crimea! My city was founded as the base of the Russian fleet and has remained to them now. And so it will be, while there will be at least one Sevastopolite in the city on his feet. Your Ukrainians are foreigners here!
                2. Bogdarin
                  Bogdarin 14 September 2013 20: 37
                  +2
                  As there Brother (Danila Bagrov from the film of the same name) said - a rhinoceros is your brother, sly. Ukraine is NOT your country, but of the UKRAINIAN people, and you, a Bendera citizen, is not finished. As one of the members of the forum rightly said, ANY Russian ship could pass by all your customs offices on the way, but no - ours comply with the laws and rules generally accepted by the world community. You better check out the "work off" of someone else's gas from OUR pipes, and where is "the official Foreign Ministry, the UN and other fairy tales?
                  1. Bogdarin
                    Bogdarin 14 September 2013 20: 39
                    +3
                    before "sly" there should be the word "G" n "and" d "a"
                  2. gallville
                    gallville 15 September 2013 14: 01
                    -2
                    In addition to insults, essentially nothing to say? Of the 4 who answered from 2 rudeness and from 3 threats towards the integrity of the country, if you like mine too I am part of this very Ukrainian people.
                    Well, well, Russians are looking further at the level of development.
                    1. Украинец
                      Украинец 16 September 2013 00: 26
                      -2
                      ... This is the average "level of development" of the average Russian .... "alcoholism, parasitism, playing the balalaika .... take everything and share" ... they care about "world problems" ... but themselves piss past the toilet ... and catch fleas with their teeth ...
                    2. Sevastopol
                      Sevastopol 18 September 2013 11: 32
                      0
                      what kind of people? and Crimeans are not people? your country is a mistake of nature, a stillborn child, created only with the aim of harming Russia. so also Crimea got this unfinished. your Ukraine was never in Crimea, in fact, never will be!
                  3. German
                    German 16 September 2013 00: 18
                    +3
                    ББЛЛ .... ТЬ! How dreary to read your likes (not the Internet meaning of the word) Guys! We are one people! Well, do not be like politicians! Yes, everyone has scum. Damn ... there are no words further!
              2. Украинец
                Украинец 16 September 2013 00: 50
                -3
                ... Soon the words will be spoken ... but not soon things will be done ... this is all from Russian fairy tales ... the belligerent Emelyas on armored furnaces ... So what if ours trained in Georgia? ... So what? ..We are not ashamed ... especially since you have weighed the "dirty tricks" for 350 years up to our throats ... And mind you .. these were "Buki" ... and not s-300 ... come. .we still need to train the S-300 and S-200 ..
          2. Украинец
            Украинец 16 September 2013 00: 36
            -4
            ..Ah, sorry ... Thank you .. We-trained ... excuse me generously ...
        2. VDV 80-82
          VDV 80-82 13 September 2013 19: 16
          11
          I think that for the time being you are renting Crimea from Russia ... and soon the rental will end!
          1. gallville
            gallville 13 September 2013 19: 46
            12 th
            When it seems necessary to be baptized.
            But it does not seem to me that imperial ambitions sometimes go wild for some representatives of the Russian Federation. Especially in view of such messages.
            1. Sevastopol
              Sevastopol 18 September 2013 11: 26
              0
              I have been living here all my life and can roll one thing: Ukraine Crimea doesn’t need a damn, it’s a stranger here, it’s only harm from it, stench and garbage and lawlessness.
          2. IT
            IT 13 September 2013 21: 10
            +1
            When it seems - it is necessary to be baptized.
          3. Украинец
            Украинец 16 September 2013 00: 29
            -6
            ... Go to Gundyaev and get baptized ... so that it doesn’t seem .. Pi ... don’t toss the bags ...
        3. Current 72
          Current 72 14 September 2013 02: 05
          +7
          Sevastopol RUSSIAN city, learn history, and the fact that Ukraine has taken it in its hands is temporary.
          1. gallville
            gallville 14 September 2013 02: 36
            -3
            Quote: Current 72
            Sevastopol RUSSIAN city, learn history, and the fact that Ukraine has taken it in its hands is temporary.

            Change flag. Do not embarrass yourself! =)
            1. German
              German 16 September 2013 00: 21
              +1
              But he’s right about Sevastopol.
          2. gallville
            gallville 14 September 2013 02: 51
            12 th
            Quote: Current 72
            Sevastopol RUSSIAN city, learn history, and the fact that Ukraine has taken it in its hands is temporary.

            You at least put the flag in the Russian settings. And then honestly it’s already ridiculous to read the patriot of someone else’s damn country, albeit fraternal. Do you want me to even write how, otherwise it seems to me you're at school and yours is really bad with your head.
            I forgot where you live and what country you need to think about ... We can and with a computer it’s bad so it's nothing .... it’s not difficult at the level of five years you can. I hope .... =))))
        4. aleshka
          aleshka 14 September 2013 06: 59
          +6
          if the moronic Khrushchev gave you the Crimea, this does not mean that he is yours !!!
          1. Украинец
            Украинец 16 September 2013 00: 52
            -4
            ... Of course ... So the whole world thinks ...
        5. Rustam009
          Rustam009 15 September 2013 09: 50
          +2
          Actually, I believe that Ukraine should give Russia Sevastopol as a base for life and for free, simply because Russia gave Crimea to Ukraine, conquered by Peter the Great.
          1. Украинец
            Украинец 16 September 2013 00: 33
            -5
            ... Now we will cry ... from feelings ... "Give everyone ... the bed will break" ... And if we don't? Then Shaw? .... World War III? ...
            1. MG42
              MG42 16 September 2013 03: 14
              +2
              Quote: Ukrainian
              ... from feelings ... "Give everyone ... the bed will break."

              Self-critical is how .. wassat

              Quote: Ukrainian
              In speed the "Kharkov agreements" are denounced ... and welcome to 2017.

              How, if they are ratified by the parliaments of the two countries?
        6. Украинец
          Украинец 16 September 2013 00: 02
          -6
          ... Yes, do not "strain" like that! ... Who is there to talk to? ... some narrow-minded people concerned about "world problems" .... it would be better to "attend" to the Far East or the Russian hinterland ..... What is there to argue ... Let them pack their suitcases ... and so that in 2017 there would be no spirit in Crimea ... to join NATO ... (for edification) demonstratively ... and force anti-missile defense elements in the Kharkiv region ... this will be "world problems" ...
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 16 September 2013 03: 18
            +8
            Quote: Ukrainian
            and put elements of missile defense in

            Stavilka will not break? Are you losing your hands?
        7. Sevastopol
          Sevastopol 18 September 2013 11: 37
          0
          110 dollars pension - this is your country and your constitution. this is not a country, this is some shame.
      6. IT
        IT 13 September 2013 21: 01
        -4
        What to envy? laughing
        Now, if pensions at the German level, or income from citizens, as in the Emirates.
        Of course, I wish Russia good luck in the geopolitical struggle with the United States. There are no reasons for envy here. This is the same as envying the Americans because of world domination and their arrogance.
      7. Украинец
        Украинец 15 September 2013 23: 45
        -3
        ... "World problems" (?) ... need to have a snack ... Why the photo was "stretched"? To make it worse to watch? .... Tolya will still be .. You for us (Ukrainians) have been checking the cargo at the border for days ... so now ... are you surprised? ... We have your "world problems" to one place .... All the more ... that "amers" were laid on your ships .... Well, you can see it with the naked eye ...
    2. demeen1
      demeen1 13 September 2013 07: 57
      11
      They did not drag out time, it was out of brotherly love, suddenly it would be necessary to go to a foreign port, and there were errors in the documents. Only this comes from oneself or from whose clues.
      1. eplewke
        eplewke 13 September 2013 09: 46
        +6
        What Hae do they even have the right to check our warships? On board is a sovereign state!
        1. Украинец
          Украинец 16 September 2013 00: 34
          -6
          ... And we’ll put it in cancer ... if necessary .. we won’t check the current ...
          1. MG42
            MG42 16 September 2013 03: 05
            +5
            Quote: Ukrainian
            .And we’ll put it with cancer ... if necessary .. we won’t check the current

            Some kind of night "inadequate" appeared on the site .. fool
            Quote: Ukrainian
            and deploy missile defense elements in the Kharkiv region ... these will be "world problems" ...

            In order to put missile defense it is necessary to join Ukraine in NATO, but this is not realistic without re-equipping the Ukrainian army according to NATO standards, because there is no money with the Russian base in Sevastopol until 2042, and where in Kharkiv region? wassat lol locals will expel NATO warriors without a referendum ..
          2. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 16 September 2013 03: 06
            +5
            Quote: Ukrainian
            ... And we’ll put it in cancer ... if necessary .. we won’t check the current ...

            Have you framed your tuches already?
    3. eplewke
      eplewke 13 September 2013 09: 44
      +3
      Nice ship. Powerful argument.
      1. Украинец
        Украинец 16 September 2013 01: 13
        -2
        .... Just a little rusty ... and so .... wow ... th ...
    4. The Indian Joe
      The Indian Joe 13 September 2013 21: 22
      +9
      Or they pretended to be wasting time. What is three hours for a transition that will last many days? And Ukraine has always been distinguished by the desire to sit with one booty on two organs. Obviously, here she did not want to quarrel with the United States, which, perhaps, asked to detain the ships, but did not want to aggravate relations with Russia, on which it depends much more strongly. than from the States. So she pretended to "detain".
      1. HollyGremlin
        HollyGremlin 14 September 2013 01: 00
        +9
        That is why we (all of us) and flutter with the domination of the Americans at sea, a weak economy (without a closed cycle), and therefore we go to rest for three nine lands and not to ourselves. Because we are swearing, but for what, is it really worth dividing Crimea, because it is someone's only on paper, and why should the borders be closed from Belarus or Ukraine or Russia? What disgusting it is, to go to dog because of nonsense, especially those who use real gas or Crimea are those in power, and certainly not us. These arguments are proof that we are still very weak. Is it really the arrogant old Europe or the cunning China that has become dearer to us? Ugh, no fleet and no European Union will save you if you bite with your family. You need to start raising your homeland from yourself. I am very sorry if one of my own people wants to fence off "My hut is on the edge, I don't know anything" and most importantly, I don't understand why? And sometimes one gets the impression that the politicians are children: "they seem to say right, but I'm independent, I will do it my own way, although not correctly."
      2. Украинец
        Украинец 16 September 2013 01: 26
        -3
        You don’t only have to talk about the whole of Ukraine here .... Do you like to sit on two organs? ... So sit ..
    5. sub307
      sub307 14 September 2013 19: 56
      0
      Yes, the last ship from the "beautiful" series. OH, perhaps he was in Split together with submarine B-307 in December 1983? He seems to be.
  4. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 13 September 2013 07: 25
    10
    Quote: xetai9977
    Let's be realistic, this is called a flag show.

    And a fairly effective demonstration, you must agree, is not because the ships of the British Navy preferred to "dump" in a quiet way. Besides, missiles flying in the immediate vicinity of our ships can be shot down. hi
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 13 September 2013 07: 50
      10
      it is unlikely that the British ships were frightened by our fleet. Just a vote in England "against" was held about Syria, so they did not waste their energy and finances on the presence of the fleet in this region. He won't do anything anyway
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 13 September 2013 07: 59
        12
        I completely agree with Dangerous. The British Parliament has already banned the participation in the war. So why should they spend money? Every day the fleet spends a certain amount of money. Crisis on the nose. And besides, they are members of NATO, why would they be afraid?
        1. Selevc
          Selevc 13 September 2013 08: 39
          18
          But for some reason, in Libya, where there were no Russian ships, the same Khrenzuzy and Small-shanks bombed the "wrong" Gaddafi so beautifully ... I think they took revenge on him for the British liner shot down in the 80s and for other different things of the 80s - small revenge is just their style !!!

          And now, for some reason, the parliament didn’t allow it - and the last time they didn’t ask the parliament especially ... Nah - they smell Brita that this time they will not give a freebie - so they decided to sit out on their foggy Albion ...
          1. vlad.svargin
            vlad.svargin 13 September 2013 15: 01
            +7
            They, I think, took revenge on him for a British liner shot down in the 80s and for other different things of the 80s - petty revenge is just in their style !!!


            Gaddafi knew a lot and his son "hinted" about this, and the French president "did not like it very much" (payment for the election of Sarkozy)
      2. bif
        bif 13 September 2013 15: 18
        +7
        I will not argue, because the result is one THEIR PRESENCE IS MINIMUM.
        But how do you like this version.
        "... That is, no one can have any illusions about how Moscow will react to the West's military actions in Syria. It is clear to everyone that everyone who tries to" whip up the foam on shit "will" taste "it As strange as it may sound, but the first may go to Great Britain. Here Putin won't have to lift a finger. It's enough just to do nothing. As we all remember, British businessmen have great appetites for Russia and, in this regard, the British even They “humiliated” themselves to the point that they practically let go of the Litvinenko case, and the Internet immediately mucked Britain for falling under the “bloody” Russia.

        Now the widow of Litvinenko also knows that Putin is the kind of person who can change the brains of the British Prime Minister and throw the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Her Royal Highness like a banana skin. This is exactly what happened with David Miliband. Now Britain has just begun to establish the interests of its business in Russia. If Putin decides that British businessmen deserve it, he will do something to restore partnerships, but if Britain goes too far, then see what is said above: “Putin will not have to move a finger” ... http : //contrpost.com/en/78-2013-05-10-13-45-19/3319-ot-skoree-net-ch
        em-da-nazad-k-vryad-li
      3. pri3rak
        pri3rak 13 September 2013 15: 36
        0
        Come on? But it did not stop sending the Syrian opposition 20 million pounds.
    2. demeen1
      demeen1 13 September 2013 08: 01
      +2
      Let's hope that this does not happen, but remains only a demonstration of the flag
    3. Egoza
      Egoza 13 September 2013 09: 02
      +4
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      And quite an effective demonstration

      "At the moment, the permanent task force of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean Sea includes the large landing ships Peresvet, Admiral Nevelskoy, Minsk, Novocherkassk, Alexander Shabalin, the large anti-submarine ship Admiral Panteleev and the escort ship Fearless The guards missile cruiser Moskva (September 10 passed the Strait of Gibraltar) and the large landing ship Nikolai Filchenkov, which left Novorossiysk on September 11, are also heading for the eastern part of the sea. The grouping began to be strengthened after the US leadership announced a possible military intervention in the conflict in Syria (this, however, does not mean that Russian ships will be located off the coast of Syria or in its ports) "
      http://www.versii.com/news/286776/
  5. Ivan79
    Ivan79 13 September 2013 07: 32
    14
    The use of large landing ships as a transport of certain goods needed by the Syrian army does not currently have official confirmation.

    Well, let them wonder. Who knows what is there? Maybe spare missiles for the "shell", maybe
    S-300 components, maybe equipment for the integration of Syrian air defense and our radars on ships ...
    The more ignorance Americans have, the more time they have to think: "do we need all this ...?"
  6. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 13 September 2013 07: 32
    13
    The Russian ships in the eastern part of the Mediterranean, using their radar systems, are able to create a continuous surveillance zone covering both the territory of Syria and the nearby waters. This will allow the Russian military to observe the movements of NATO ships, track missile launches and strike aircraft sorties. At the same time, Russian sailors can be not only silent observers, but also informants. The information received can be transmitted to the relevant authorities of the Russian Ministry of Defense, and in addition, to the Syrian headquarters. This may be the help promised by the Russian leadership.

    When the amers nevertheless suppress Syria's radar systems, our ships will be these systems. It’s also interesting why they brought our yummy one to treat the adversary.
    1. the polar
      the polar 13 September 2013 07: 53
      +2
      Quote: FC Skiff

      When the amers nevertheless suppress Syria's radar systems, our ships will be these systems. It’s also interesting why they brought our yummy one to treat the adversary.

      Can explain how this is technically possible, and how it will be politically interpreted
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 13 September 2013 08: 43
        +9
        Quote: Polar
        Can explain how it is technically possible

        What's the problem?
        Quote: Polar
        and how it will be politically interpreted

        USA did exactly the same in 08.08.08
      2. Hitrovan07
        Hitrovan07 13 September 2013 21: 27
        0
        Ha - what does politics have to do with it - when "naked" power has ruled the world for the last 20 years.
      3. Doctor Evil
        Doctor Evil 13 September 2013 22: 01
        0
        Quote: Polar

        Can explain how this is technically possible, and how it will be politically interpreted

        Ideally, we and the Syrians need an analogue of the Link-16 system. I doubt that there is one. Most likely, information from the ships goes to our embassy (directly or through Moscow), and from there to the GKP of the Syrian air defense. As an option. I would like to note that along with the radar station, stationary command posts will be destroyed in the first place and bringing the air situation to the surviving divisions may be significantly more difficult. I don’t know about the political aspect, but I think that there will be no strike on our embassy.
    2. eplewke
      eplewke 13 September 2013 09: 47
      0
      It’s not like they’re driving potatoes ...
      1. rainufa
        rainufa 13 September 2013 17: 08
        0
        Maybe the potatoes too ...
        1. alexng
          alexng 18 September 2013 08: 27
          0
          Quote: rainufa
          Maybe the potatoes too ...


          And each was wrapped in a steel shell ...
  7. Dangerous
    Dangerous 13 September 2013 07: 47
    +3
    The map at the beginning of the article is incomplete - there are NATO submarines there, but with a "?" quantity, but ours are not. It seems to me that the author of this map underestimates us, in love with 1-2 nuclear submarines in the Mediterranean Sea
    1. the polar
      the polar 13 September 2013 07: 55
      -7
      Quote: Dangerous
      the author of this map underestimates us, like the 1-2 submarines in the Mediterranean Sea are present

      What for? What task will they perform?
      1. eplewke
        eplewke 13 September 2013 09: 49
        +3
        Yes, I even think that not one, but two, but more. Who will the submarines indicate on the public map ?? This is classified information. That's why they are submarines, so that they secretly go. This is a strategic fleet!
    2. vlad.svargin
      vlad.svargin 13 September 2013 15: 22
      0
      It seems to me that the author of this map underestimates us, like 1-2 nuclear submarines in the Mediterranean

      It would be an unpleasant surprise for the US Navy if among them was the PKK of Project 949A (Antey class)
      1. rainufa
        rainufa 13 September 2013 17: 48
        +2
        Submarines of Antey Project 949A (according to NATO classification - Oscar-II) - a series of Soviet and Russian nuclear submarines (SSGN), armed with P-700 Granite cruise missiles and designed to destroy aircraft carrier strike formations. The project is a modification of 949 "Granite".

        Attack on Nimitz (damage of $ 5 billion)? [2]

        At the same time, aircraft carriers will not be able to actively maintain a database due to the S-300 factor when operating the SAR air defense system, and being in Syria is a risk since YAHONTS, even if we imagine them, supposedly destroyed the valiant Tsakals, then the coddled BDKs have long made up for them.
        They want to leave with axes, here our armor will penetrate the penetration probability of 0.8-0.9, each ax costs $ 1.5 million and they will be needed according to some estimates of 200-300 missiles.

        With a flick of the wrist, aggression turns, aggression turns into a Bummer.

        It remains to cleanse the country of militants who want to establish a caliphate in Russia.
    3. Украинец
      Украинец 16 September 2013 01: 24
      -1
      ... Well, let them be ... is it easier for you?
  8. Dangerous
    Dangerous 13 September 2013 07: 54
    +2
    MilaPhone RU  Today, 07:20
    "Another ship has joined.
    The patrol ship of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation "Smetlivy" left on Thursday 12.09.13 from Sevastopol to the Mediterranean Sea. "

    Ship history:
    The laying of the ship took place on July 15, 1966 at the shipyard named after 61 Communards in Nikolaev. June 15, 1968 the ship was added to the lists of ships of the Navy of the USSR. August 26, 1967 launched; September 25, 1969 went into operation. 21.10.1969 was included in the Black Sea Fleet
    Tryndets comrades, could not find a ship for the newer ???
    1. MilaPhone
      MilaPhone 13 September 2013 08: 03
      16
      Yes, "Komsomol members of Ukraine" they are - old. wink
      In 1990-1995, a large modernization was carried out at the "Shrewd" BOD. Instead of a stern artillery mount and helipad, a MNK-300 non-acoustic submarine detection complex was installed with a 300-meter towed antenna that receives the thermal, radiation and noise signal of the submarine. In addition, two 1000-container launchers of anti-ship missiles “Uranus” (a close analogue of the American Harpoon missiles) were installed at the site of the RBU-4 bombers, jammers-directors PK-10 and PK-16 were placed in the pilothouse area, several new radars and PCRK control system, 5 × 533 mm torpedo tubes replaced by 7 × 406 mm. The total displacement of the ship reached 4900 tons. In 2006, a scheduled repair was completed.
      Now he is a patrol ship according to Russian qualifications. On the west - "Singing Frigate" smile and not only because of the characteristic “singing” of powerful gas turbines, but also for the respectable fighting qualities of the ships.
      1. MilaPhone
        MilaPhone 13 September 2013 08: 23
        +5
        "Sharp-witted"
      2. Dangerous
        Dangerous 13 September 2013 08: 52
        +4
        You can call the ship as beautifully as you like (the name "singing frigate" pleases the ear), but the fact remains - Russia sent a ship to a hot spot, which has been going for 5 decades. It is clear that they have modernized, but in the eyes of the West it looks just flawed. I remember the article here about the aircraft carrier Enterprise, as soon as it was not mocked because of its age! As a result, we send such old stuff ourselves. True, not an aircraft carrier, but a patrol boat ...
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          1. Mikola
            Mikola 13 September 2013 12: 09
            15 th
            may flare up erudition and hit the TTX of this frigate patrolman, as you yourself are excited. Or is self-criticism not available to you?)
            1. bif
              bif 13 September 2013 21: 32
              +3
              may flare erudition and hit TTX your Ukrainian fleet ... there is more combat power in one "retired" Sharpie ...
            2. aleshka
              aleshka 14 September 2013 07: 04
              +3
              but I heard the Ukrainian fleet generally floats in rubber Ufimki !!!
        2. bif
          bif 13 September 2013 21: 22
          +7
          Russia sent a ship to the hot spot, which is already 5-th decade Do not take it for a claim, but in the Red Sea, to intimidate Syria, the old NIMITs with the "squad" "keeps afloat". CVN-68 “Nimitz” was laid down on 22.06.1968/13.05.1972/XNUMX, launched on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX and no one blathers anything ... maybe in vain.
  9. xetai9977
    xetai9977 13 September 2013 08: 02
    +1
    Quote: Valery Neonov
    missiles flying in the immediate vicinity of our ships can also be beaten.

    So are you sure that Russian ships will shoot down NATO missiles? It’s good that you are not the president, otherwise the whole planet would have to spend the rest of the days in bomb shelters.
  10. left-wing
    left-wing 13 September 2013 08: 05
    +4
    To shoot down, they will shoot down missiles in case of conflict. It was not in vain that Russia conducted exercises there, the purpose of which was to work out the interception of missiles.
  11. Ah1ll
    Ah1ll 13 September 2013 08: 09
    +1
    But when launching rockets with amers, ours cannot bring them down? Well, like, they suddenly thought we weren’t going to drink tea))
    1. alone
      alone 13 September 2013 22: 41
      +4
      a brick doesn’t fall on a head just like that)) so there are no accidents. especially in such cases
  12. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 13 September 2013 08: 12
    10
    They covered Syria with warships! Especially the BDK and no one knows what is inside of them .. The time goes by the bearded is getting smaller .. Hold on Assad!
  13. Nitarius
    Nitarius 13 September 2013 08: 18
    +7
    Quote: Milafon
    Another ship joined.
    The patrol ship of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation "Smetlivy" left on Thursday 12.09.13 from Sevastopol to the Mediterranean Sea. Before that, the Ukrainian customs detained him for more than three hours. The customs officers re-formed the lists of the entire crew, checked the documents, asked many questions, as if they were deliberately dragging out time.

    not the same! start to dance to the west! then GEORGIA is helping to rearm against us. then they’re crap! Selling little souls from the leaders of UKRAINE! a pity the mustache equals a pendell to give them GEYROP
    1. Mikola
      Mikola 13 September 2013 12: 10
      24 th
      I repeat, you are strange, you want to wage a trade war, not fulfill the signed agreements and not have reciprocal dirty tricks. Ukraine has its own "world" problems, get it and write it. And Russia itself creates many world problems out of the blue. Do you think the Assad regime will hold out for a long time?) But Russia will spend a lot of money on this regime, although the result is known in advance. And also the gays of Europe are also against the European integration of Ukraine, did you agree on a position with them?))))
      1. pri3rak
        pri3rak 13 September 2013 15: 46
        +1
        Blessed is he who believes.
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 13 September 2013 21: 07
        +6
        Quote: Mikola
        Yes, and many of the world's problems Russia creates out of the blue itself.

        The main and main problem of Russia in relation to the West is the resource-rich territory to which the West reveals its bread, all other problems are a consequence of this.
      3. Zopuhhh
        Zopuhhh 17 September 2013 16: 51
        0
        Quote: Mikola
        e fulfill signed contracts

        I understand correctly that you are now talking about gas shortages by Little Russia?
  14. Ah1ll
    Ah1ll 13 September 2013 08: 36
    +2
    BDK still carries goods under the contract))
  15. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 13 September 2013 08: 38
    10
    This is all that makes the Americans furiously scratch their turnips ... they are not used to it ... it is dishonest, in their opinion "to create an imbalance in the region", you know ... they are used to bombing defenseless without loss ...
  16. S-200
    S-200 13 September 2013 08: 52
    +3
    Russian ships located in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea, using their radar systems, are able to create a continuous observation zone covering both the territory of Syria and the nearby water areas
    rather, the water area adjacent to Syria and part of the territory at certain heights and directions ... But this is already very good for warning!
  17. NKVD
    NKVD 13 September 2013 09: 18
    +7
    Yes, they will shoot down cruise missiles if the Americans decide to strike, and they will put interference in the radio range. This is the best option for helping Syria. "I will not beat, but I will not allow beating either."
    1. papik09
      papik09 13 September 2013 14: 59
      +3
      "And though I am 3 months old, BUT - LADIES AND APPETITE IN DUNDELL". Said a cub sitting in a hole with a 2-year-old fox and a 5-year-old wolf. laughing
    2. Украинец
      Украинец 16 September 2013 00: 15
      -3
      ... Under the bottom, a couple of three special tools were still quietly attached in Sevastopol ... neat holes will come out .... and to the bottom ...
  18. Altona
    Altona 13 September 2013 09: 19
    +4
    There is a doubt that our fleet could undergo a so-called "accidental attack" as was the case in Serbia, in Belgrade ... The missile flew into the Chinese embassy not "accidentally", but to cover the source of intelligence transmission ... The Chinese shared their info with the Serbs satellites and gave them all kinds of operational information ...
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 13 September 2013 09: 44
      +7
      Quote: Altona
      The rocket flew into the Chinese embassy not "by accident", but to cover the source of the intelligence transmission.
      Then the Yankees made excuses that it was a mistake because of the old data on buildings. With ships, such a "mistake" is unlikely to work, especially since the ship is not alone, and, unlike the embassy building, it has the ability to use air defense systems. Another question is what, really, our connection will do if one of the ships is attacked, no matter what "mistake" the Americans explain.
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 14 September 2013 02: 55
        0
        Quote: Per se.
        Another question is what, really, our connection will do if one of the ships is attacked, no matter what "mistake" the Americans explain.

        And this is still a mystery. The flotilla commander, according to anyone, has an envelope in the safe for possible scenarios.
  19. 0255
    0255 13 September 2013 09: 23
    0
    The use of large amphibious ships as a transport of certain goods required by the Syrian army, at the moment has no official confirmation. A number of facts may serve as an indirect confirmation of this assumption, but the Russian leadership has not yet disclosed the true reasons for the transfer of a large number of BDK to the area of ​​possible conflict.

    The BDK is sent for two reasons - either the Syrians are finally providing military assistance, or these are the last Russian ships that can still sail. But it pleases that the Americans did not attack Syria on September 9th.
    1. King
      King 13 September 2013 09: 54
      15
      they didn’t even think of attacking, they were simply pushing the price because they understand that in Syria they are rapidly losing initiative and the statement about the attack simply attracts attention - they say, look, the USA still has something in the world! but in reality the world is floating out of their fins and flowing smoothly into the hands of Russia in alliance with China. It is worth recalling the rotten instigators - the United Kingdom, which succumbed to the Yankees and then skillfully leaked them proctically alone and emerged dry from the water, only Oland did not understand the trend and continues to bend in front of the United States. the United States itself is not happy that they have practically declared war on Syria. But then Putin came to the rescue with his initiative on chemical weapons, which at least practically pulled the states out of the shit but skillfully lowered them to their knees and smeared them with gras.
      1. Bekzat
        Bekzat 13 September 2013 12: 16
        +3
        Pretty tough but correct comment, + Dear !!!
    2. Per se.
      Per se. 13 September 2013 10: 02
      14
      Quote: 0255
      The BDK is sent for two reasons - either the Syrians are finally providing military assistance, or these are the last Russian ships that can still sail.
      It is then necessary to send the Vikramaditya for sea trials not to the White Sea, but to the Mediterranean, until the aircraft carrier was handed over to the Indians in November this year. And, to the full program "test" the work of radars, takeoffs and landings of carrier-based aircraft ... Indians will benefit, and we, in the end.
      1. moremansf
        moremansf 13 September 2013 10: 29
        +2
        It would be interesting....
    3. Lockbase170
      Lockbase170 14 September 2013 10: 13
      0
      Of the two reasons mentioned, one is completely wrong .. Lack of information - it affects speculation, and this is fundamentally impossible to do.
  20. darksoul
    darksoul 13 September 2013 09: 46
    12
    our fellows, Moscow alone 121 what is it worth, it would be ours if our mind had enough to take her sister from Ukraine, bring Ustinov to mind as soon as possible, and then think over 1144, such ships need to be restored, cutting them is just a crime, Russia will not allow itself already to build such giants, it is necessary to use what wiser ancestors left us
    1. Nick888
      Nick888 13 September 2013 12: 24
      +4
      Fortunately, all 4 will undergo modernization, full Nakhimov, Lazarev and Ushakov on an abridged plan. At the expense of Peter, I know that he will be the last, but I did not find any information on what plan he will go.
  21. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 13 September 2013 09: 53
    10
    Yes, everything is so and it’s not bad, especially against the background of the last couple of decades.
    BUT!
    All this can easily turn into a steam that flies out into a whistle if inside Russia there is no such concentration in the form of the development of industry, the army and merciless liberation from Russophobic liberalism (cleansing and deliberation).
    1. King
      King 13 September 2013 10: 07
      +5
      I agree it is necessary to ban liberalism in Russia; in Egypt, it was enough of a mind to ban Muslim brothers, and we are worse !?
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 13 September 2013 13: 13
        +7
        I agree it is necessary to ban liberalism in Russia; in Egypt, it was enough of a mind to ban Muslim brothers, and we are worse !?

        It is not enough to ban it; it must be eradicated from power, from education, from the economy. Of course, no one suggests destroying the liberals themselves.
        We are no worse than the Egyptians, we want to be deceived and therefore deceived.
        BUT!
        Once you have to see clearly ... soldier
  22. chushoj
    chushoj 13 September 2013 10: 09
    +1
    Not a bad review. I think that the ships will not only transmit information to Syria about the missiles seen. There are great doubts that the transfer of information to the "appropriate bodies" of the defense will be a priority. My main concern is that most decisions will be standalone.
  23. Yankuz
    Yankuz 13 September 2013 10: 20
    +3
    Quote: Nitarius
    Quote: Milafon
    Another ship joined.
    The patrol ship of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation "Smetlivy" left on Thursday 12.09.13 from Sevastopol to the Mediterranean Sea. Before that, the Ukrainian customs detained him for more than three hours. The customs officers re-formed the lists of the entire crew, checked the documents, asked many questions, as if they were deliberately dragging out time.

    not the same! start to dance to the west! then GEORGIA is helping to rearm against us. then they’re crap! Selling little souls from the leaders of UKRAINE! a pity the mustache equals a pendell to give them GEYROP

    Well, in reality, they are already getting in the way of their "participation" in big politics.
  24. moremansf
    moremansf 13 September 2013 10: 33
    +2
    At the end of 2012, the Navy began to build up forces in the Mediterranean. From May 1, 2013, a special control group of ships was formed to coordinate the actions of ships.

    At present, large landing ships "Peresvet", "Admiral Nevelskoy", "Minsk", "Novocherkassk", "Alexander Shabalin", a large anti-submarine ship "Admiral Panteleev" and a patrol ship "Fearless" are on duty in the Mediterranean Sea, soon to them the guards missile cruiser Moskva, the Smetlivy patrol ship and the Nikolai Filchenkov large landing ship will join.

    V. Chirkov noted that in this region the Navy faces "extremely clear tasks" - to avoid the slightest threat to the borders and state security. "It is the practice of all the fleets of the world to be where the level of tension increases," the admiral said.
  25. moremansf
    moremansf 13 September 2013 10: 38
    +6
    The presence of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean shows that the Russian Federation is paying serious attention to the situation around Syria, said Alexei Pushkov, head of the international committee of the State Duma of the Russian Federation.

    "The Russian navy in the Mediterranean Sea by its presence shows that we are paying very serious attention to this situation," he said.

    Pushkov added that "it (the situation) is perceived as a key problem in world politics, that Russia is watching the development of events, watching from close proximity and does not intend to accept the military logic of resolving this conflict."

    On Tuesday, a senior Russian Navy official told RIA Novosti that the Black Sea Fleet patrol ship Smetlivy would leave Sevastopol and head for the shores of Syria on September 12. The naval spokesman recalled that on September 17, the Moskva missile cruiser will arrive in the eastern Mediterranean region, and on September 29, two Black Sea Fleet ships will arrive in the Syrian coast area: the Ivanovets missile boat and the Shtil small missile ship. According to him, on Friday a detachment of ships, including the Novocherkassk (Black Sea Fleet) and Minsk (Baltic Fleet) large landing craft, as well as the Azovye reconnaissance ship (Black Sea Fleet), passed the Dardanelles and entered the command of the Mediterranean squadron.
  26. xomaNN
    xomaNN 13 September 2013 11: 02
    +5
    A few decades ago, the presence then in the ports of Egypt and Libya (not in the last war winked ) Soviet ships greatly strained the aggressors. The fear to "hook" these ships of the USSR Navy by mistake protected these places from attacks. Now, I hope, they will not be used as a "human shield", but they will at least serve as an AWACS system for Syria
  27. vthrehbq
    vthrehbq 13 September 2013 11: 05
    +6
    The most likely scenario is the creation by our ships' radars of illumination of all possible targets. all means of destruction of air defense are aimed primarily at the destruction of radar and the Americans will try to destroy them in the event of an impact .. but if the Syrian air defense do not turn on the radars and work in a passive mode, receiving information from our ships .. it will be practically impossible to destroy them
    1. Doctor Evil
      Doctor Evil 13 September 2013 15: 42
      +1
      In order for Syrian air defense to receive information from our ships in real time, it is necessary to integrate them (ships) into a single control network, and this requires a lot of time, if at all possible. Communication is our weak point, and even the interaction between dissimilar forces is lame even more. In many comments I read about jamming the damned bourgeoisie in the event of a rocket attack. It may turn out that the Americans are a hitch to the Americans, but if they begin to put pressure on us in response to the radar and communications, it won’t be enough.
  28. kostya_a
    kostya_a 13 September 2013 11: 11
    +4
    Yes, everything is clear, in the BDK there are weapons systems, the same Yakhonts, missiles for air defense, etc. Surely there are Marines for order. It is ridiculous to take out the BDK of Russian citizens. There were 170 of them before the war, now half! This is how much BDK is needed ???? even if to the eyeballs it is a maximum of 000 people, it’s like herrings in a barrel. The reconnaissance ship "Priazovye" is there for carrying out electronic intelligence, it can track all the pre-launch preparations, launches and trajectories. Unique ship. Plus early warning system radar Voronezh. And RK Moscow + boats + patrol, it’s so ... so that Americans do not freeze stupid things. Yet the nuclear submarines do not know how many are there that are likely to carry anti-missile missiles. Recently, there was a missile launch, supposedly Israel was testing its missile defense systems, well, a lie, after all! They tried to detect Syrian secretive air defense. The Syrians did not turn on their radar, because the Sea of ​​Azov worked and transmitted the trajectory.
    1. xtur
      xtur 13 September 2013 11: 41
      +3
      >. The Azov reconnaissance ship is there to carry electronic reconnaissance, it can trace all pre-launch preparations, launches and trajectories. A unique ship. Plus early warning system radar Voronezh.

      Is this an overseas station on it? Or did you mean stationary, in Russia?
      Can these Voronezhs serve for target designation? If they can, then no AWACS aircraft are needed in the Mediterranean Sea. So it turns out
      1. kostya_a
        kostya_a 13 September 2013 13: 39
        +5
        Well, I'm not too strong in her performance characteristics, they are classified, but apparently she marks missile launches. And judging by the late reaction of the USA and Israel, it was a surprise for them!
    2. papik09
      papik09 13 September 2013 15: 05
      +8
      "Azov region", among other things, by the way, can also block the work of radio electronics ..... laughing and, on the go, there will be little, sir ....
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 18 September 2013 20: 33
        0
        Quote: papik09
        "Priazovye", among other things, by the way, can also block the work of radio electronics

        And it can get a missile pointing at a source of interference. Not so simple, unfortunately.
    3. Lockbase170
      Lockbase170 15 September 2013 20: 39
      +1
      Let me tell you right away: forget about the Marines! There are 80% conscripts! And they will never be allowed into the "meat" .. We passed .. But the fact that there may be "thermometers" from the Airborne Forces is quite possible .. I'm even sure these are specialists from the 45th and 31st brigades ..
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 15 September 2013 21: 00
        0
        Let me tell you right away: forget about the Marines! There are 80% conscripts! And they will never be allowed into the "meat" .. We passed .. But the fact that there may be "thermometers" from the Airborne Forces is quite possible .. I'm even sure these are specialists from the 45th and 31st brigades ..



        The indicated 45 and 31 oddbrs did not get rid of conscripts, they did not completely transfer to the contract.
  29. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 13 September 2013 11: 12
    +4
    Russian ships possess not only powerful radar equipment, which will create a continuous radar field in the region, but also reconnaissance equipment. In such a situation, it will be possible to track any provocation by potential aggressors. And they are capable of it. Remember the provocations with the launch of missiles in the direction of Syria. In the case of missile attacks on Syria, air defense ships can be used to repel these attacks.
    1. chushoj
      chushoj 13 September 2013 14: 48
      0
      How is the gearbox for the S-300? If there was such a connection.
  30. kostya_a
    kostya_a 13 September 2013 11: 23
    +2
    The Yankees themselves are not happy that they climbed there, the allies threw them. They did not create a normal grouping. And five destroyers of the Arly-Burke type + 3 aircraft carriers + 1 submarine of the Ohio type are a maximum of 500 axes. This is provided that the destroyers are in shock equipment, but judging by the fact that they came spontaneously, this is unlikely, which means there are even less axes. Well, even if it’s 500, well, this is not enough to deliver a direct hit on key objects. Half of the axes in the worst case are hit down. Well, judging by the latest news, the Yanui give the back!
  31. Neo1982
    Neo1982 13 September 2013 11: 44
    +1
    why why
    in which case the coordinates of the targets will be given, and the Syrians only have time to press the button on the C300
  32. aszzz888
    aszzz888 13 September 2013 11: 44
    +4
    This will allow the Russian military to monitor the movements of NATO ships, track missile launches and attacks of attack aircraft. At the same time, Russian sailors can be not only silent observers, but also informants. The information received can be transmitted to the relevant bodies of the Russian Ministry of Defense, and also to the Syrian headquarters. This may be the help promised by the Russian leadership.


    Weaned from our excursions, combed our hair, twitched. It is one thing to launch darts with impunity, another when they are watching, observing, recording, transmitting, etc.
    From that, they, the mericatos, and nervousness. It is bad for them, poor fellow, in the neighborhood with our Fleet.
  33. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 13 September 2013 11: 47
    +4
    In my opinion, the article is clearly written. The warships of the Russian Navy cover transport operations for the supply of everything Assad needs, in which case they will take people back. In addition, the ships cover the submarine and the reconnaissance ship, and participate in lighting the situation. "Moscow" provides air defense connections. If fired upon, they will not chain along the coast to shoot down missiles. The ships will be concentrated to the side, at the range of their strike weapons, and will be ready to shoot down gifts that have "accidentally flown" towards them.
    1. S-200
      S-200 13 September 2013 11: 57
      0
      Quote: chunga-changa
      In my opinion, the article clearly says

      Here, on the fences, sometimes it is also very clearly written by a playful child's hand ... the word "XY?" fellow
      but the experienced eye will immediately understand that it is either reinforced concrete or wood ... wassat
      1. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 13 September 2013 12: 32
        +1
        God, yes you need to write an article about this urgently, such deep knowledge, so much experience.
      2. papik09
        papik09 13 September 2013 15: 08
        0
        This is not a fence, but on the door of a barn. laughing And when you open the door, and there ..... firewood is wassat
  34. Sergeant
    Sergeant 13 September 2013 11: 47
    0
    Quote: xetai9977
    Quote: Valery Neonov
    missiles flying in the immediate vicinity of our ships can also be beaten.

    So are you sure that the ships of the Russian Federation will shoot down NATO missiles? ...


    I doubt that they will fly over the "heads" of our sailors at all.
    Amers are not so tough as to throw "little plates" worth 1,5 million dollars for the amusement of Russian sailors. But that's not all: how many missiles can (will) shoot down Russian ships? Will this make the "weather" in the region? Look at the map: Amers launchers from almost ALL sides!
    Does anyone know how much it costs (for us) one air defense missile capable of shooting down "axes"? Taking into account the economies of the Russian Federation and the United States, isn't such a "shooting gallery" too expensive (for us)? In Syria, and so "dough" vbuhali, probably will not seem a little!
    The plus article, of course. :))
  35. Mikola
    Mikola 13 September 2013 11: 49
    10
    The Syrian crisis gives Russia one lesson - the fact that large surface ships are needed and removes the question whether Russia needs aircraft carriers.
    1. bif
      bif 13 September 2013 15: 40
      +1
      If the "Anthea" is not visible, this does not mean that it is not there ... and judging by your headless logic, then in order to show its effectiveness, the "Kursk" had to work out all the ammunition in the 6th fleet back in 1999 off the coast of Yugoslavia.
      1. Украинец
        Украинец 16 September 2013 00: 55
        -1
        ...Why not? ... But, .... everyone knows about "Kursk" ....
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 16 September 2013 00: 57
          0
          You would be ashamed to dance on the bones of the dead! I went to a branch where there is nobody and let's choke with bile!
          1. Russ69
            Russ69 16 September 2013 01: 02
            0
            Quote: Alex 241
            You would be ashamed to dance on the bones of the dead! I went to a branch where there is nobody and let's choke with bile!

            Yes, forget it on this troll ....
            1. Украинец
              Украинец 16 September 2013 02: 09
              -1
              ... said the troll ...
  36. kostya_a
    kostya_a 13 September 2013 11: 51
    +2
    Quote: aszzz888
    From that, they, the mericatos, and nervousness. It is bad for them, poor fellow, in the neighborhood with our Fleet.

    I would also not sit quietly when there are 16 P-1000 Vulcan missiles nearby))))
    1. Mikola
      Mikola 13 September 2013 12: 03
      +3
      do not be confused, the author of the article correctly pointed out that the Russian fleet is performing defensive functions. And "they" are clearly offensive. So they have no fear. We must respect the enemy, otherwise this is the path to defeat.
    2. papik09
      papik09 13 September 2013 15: 10
      0
      .... or "Basalt" ....
    3. Украинец
      Украинец 16 September 2013 01: 00
      -2
      ... And what is "pulnut"? .... Then this is the third world ... at least ... sorry for "Moscow" ... it will quickly disappear ...
  37. Ukraine
    Ukraine 13 September 2013 12: 44
    +8
    As if they did not criticize the Russian Navy, but the fear of gay Amers is on the face. Valdemar is not Borya. Respect and respect.
    1. Украинец
      Украинец 16 September 2013 00: 58
      -2
      ... Don’t give me a gop ... a fellow countryman ... everything is ahead .... bought popcorn? ... sit down comfortably ...
  38. kostya_a
    kostya_a 13 September 2013 12: 49
    +2
    Quote: Mikola
    do not be confused, the author of the article correctly pointed out that the Russian fleet is performing defensive functions. And "they" are clearly offensive. So they have no fear. We must respect the enemy, otherwise this is the path to defeat.

    I do not agree with this statement. The US group is very small for some sort of offensive action. If, by analogy, we recall Iraq, there were so many destroyers, landing transports, docks of the San Antonio type. And here's how to play on the nerves. If something serious was the Syrian army did not continue WHO! IMHO !!!
    1. maxcor1974
      maxcor1974 13 September 2013 13: 25
      +4
      There are no transports, as the Americans did not initially plan a ground operation, and even if they did, then allies of the United States surround Syria from all sides, the territory of which they use as a bridgehead to strike. However, the current situation, taking into account public opinion in the West, suggests that Obama does his best to get out of this situation and not lose face. He clearly loses the information battle, therefore, if the military action is unsuccessfully developing, he can rally impeachment, and even if the image of the peacemaker is successful, he will dry up on his tanned face. So I think the Yankees will back down, although they will try to recoup in the diplomatic ring.
      1. kostya_a
        kostya_a 13 September 2013 13: 50
        +3
        And here it is just not so. Although Turkey screams that it is ready for war, it is not torn. They have Iran under their noses. It’s most likely that Erdogan’s grandmother Katarski is working out + there are also Kurds from Syria and there are still Kurds in Turkey. Iraq, Libya, Egypt refused to give airspace, England banned the use of its air bases, what remains ?? 2 aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean + 1 in Red (moreover, during the Red Campaign it’s not a game, airplanes fly far through Israel) + France’s air base, if I'm not mistaken in Saudi Arabia. It is too little. Another fact, NATO has never encountered modern Russian-made air defense systems. NIRAZU. And we were confronted in the war with Georgia, everyone means how it ended!
        1. maxcor1974
          maxcor1974 13 September 2013 13: 59
          +2
          But after all, Jordan still remains with Israel, this is a blow from two sides. Moreover, Israel can deny until the very end preparations for a military action, and then strike at the last moment. Well, modern air defense, this is really the issue that makes the cerebellum to the states and co. Therefore, they probably have not yet hit ...
          1. kostya_a
            kostya_a 13 September 2013 14: 29
            +1
            The funny thing is that the Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Jordan, Abdullah Al-Nussur, also said that he would not provide his territory as a springboard for an attack on Syria. And Israel without just looking at Iran will not just act!
  39. goats denis
    goats denis 13 September 2013 13: 14
    18 th
    The squadron was sent to evacuate Assad and his loyal people, as well as their families, and not for anything else.
    1. Akhtuba73
      Akhtuba73 13 September 2013 14: 21
      +4
      Suddenly ... and a lot of stupidity.
      no offense
      1. goats denis
        goats denis 13 September 2013 17: 46
        -8
        And you think, for what? or in the Kremlin they don’t realize that our fleet can only die heroically in case of war (the crews will heroically fight, but you will not last long against such an ARMADA), I don’t think landing troops, when everything starts all ports and the entire coastal zone will or captured, or shoot through. So there they already handed over Assad in the Kremlin, they only guaranteed him life and departure from the country. That's why our squadron is there.
        1. VDV 80-82
          VDV 80-82 13 September 2013 19: 47
          +2
          Is your fleet an Amer chtol? then absolutely agree
        2. Akhtuba73
          Akhtuba73 13 September 2013 23: 56
          +4
          goats denis
          I don’t argue and I won’t ... I only wish that you yourself would understand how deeply mistaken you are, speaking so insignificantly about your country.
        3. bomg.77
          bomg.77 14 September 2013 00: 16
          +2
          Quote: Denis Goats
          And you think, for what? or in the Kremlin they don’t realize that our fleet can only die heroically in case of war (the crews will heroically fight, but you will not last long against such an ARMADA), I don’t think landing troops, when everything starts all ports and the entire coastal zone will or captured, or shoot through. So there they already handed over Assad in the Kremlin, they only guaranteed him life and departure from the country. That's why our squadron is there.

          Not pissing! laughing laughing
        4. Lockbase170
          Lockbase170 14 September 2013 10: 15
          0
          the author is burning! Go escho! Finish at least school, analyst ....
    2. bomg.77
      bomg.77 14 September 2013 00: 08
      0
      Quote: Denis Kozlov
      The squadron was sent to evacuate Assad and his loyal people, as well as their families, and not for anything else.
      the squadron was sent to evacuate the American fleet. laughing* (suddenly war) laughing
  40. kostya_a
    kostya_a 13 September 2013 13: 25
    +1
    Quote: Denis Kozlov
    The squadron was sent to evacuate Assad and his loyal people, as well as their families, and not for anything else.

    Interesting opinion, but it makes no sense to drive so many BDKs!
    1. goats denis
      goats denis 13 September 2013 13: 29
      -8
      Apparently for the quantity, because as many ships as the USA do not have, they sent everything they could find
      1. kostya_a
        kostya_a 13 September 2013 13: 52
        +4
        To drive the BDK for count is ridiculous, they have no strike weapons. The Yankees would not pay attention to them.
        1. PARTISAN
          PARTISAN 13 September 2013 18: 59
          +2
          Or perhaps on each large landing craft there are "Pantsiri" ready-made for the DB, which are capable of working right on the decks ...
          1. Lockbase170
            Lockbase170 14 September 2013 10: 19
            0
            No need to guess .. At the BDK everything is fine and fed well ... wink
      2. Lockbase170
        Lockbase170 14 September 2013 10: 18
        0
        laughing troll on ... stock up on popcorn ... laughing
  41. HF
    HF 13 September 2013 13: 29
    18
    Quote: Kibalchish
    ... I am not enthusiastic about the Assad regime, but the more he kills these bearded bastards, the easier it will be for us to live. ...

    I want to swear ... What is Assad’s regime? Syria, to all this crap, was a secular, multi-religious State! Since when is a legitimately elected President considered a dictator? Explain if this does not bother you. Thank you in advance for your reply.
    1. papik09
      papik09 13 September 2013 15: 15
      +2
      Yeah, wait for an answer ... I agree with you, sir. Syria is a completely self-sufficient and secular state. Also, SOVEREIGNTY. hi
    2. alone
      alone 13 September 2013 22: 44
      +1
      what please explain what do you mean by the word legitimacy? In general, how do you imagine legitimate elections?
      1. Arabist
        Arabist 13 September 2013 22: 48
        0
        Lonely, your opinion on Syria? What should be expected in September?
        1. alone
          alone 13 September 2013 23: 29
          +1
          Greetings Andrew! I expect the following. an increase in all kinds of provocations, which will undoubtedly benefit the West and the Americans.
          I recently read information that the Syrian military command creates tank ditches and reinforces checkpoints, turning them into fortified areas in the outskirts of Damascus. militants may launch an attack on Damascus or try to take Aleppo completely.
          but as for the fact that they can strike it is still possible. after all, the group is still in the area of ​​concentration and the ships have not been removed from there.
          1. atalef
            atalef 13 September 2013 23: 38
            0
            Quote: lonely
            I recently read information that the Syrian military command creates tank ditches and reinforces checkpoints, turning them into fortified areas in the outskirts of Damascus. militants may launch an attack on Damascus or try to take Aleppo completely.

            strange. But all in all 2 months ago, Assad stated. that until the complete defeat of the SSA there is a maximum of a month left. Well, a month has long passed, the second comes to an end. And here they are digging ditches.
          2. Russ69
            Russ69 14 September 2013 02: 58
            +1
            Quote: lonely
            I recently read information that the Syrian military command creates tank ditches and reinforces checkpoints, turning them into fortified areas in the outskirts of Damascus. militants may launch an attack on Damascus or try to take Aleppo completely.

            They’ll do it right, if the Americans strike, then the militants will intensify sharply, and it’s better to prepare with the rhetoric of Turkey.
    3. bomg.77
      bomg.77 14 September 2013 00: 24
      +3
      Quote: KV
      . What is Assad’s regime? Si
      when they write and say the "regime" of Assad, it means that it is mishandled, it just pours in the poison drop by drop. More subtle so to speak.
  42. Volkhov
    Volkhov 13 September 2013 13: 49
    0
    On the map and on the lists there is no RCA 955, which went into the sea, did something and went somewhere ... probably for this the rest of the squadron.
  43. zollstab
    zollstab 13 September 2013 14: 11
    0
    Quote: Mikola
    I repeat, you are strange, you want to wage a trade war, not fulfill the signed agreements and not have reciprocal dirty tricks. Ukraine has its own "world" problems, get it and write it. And Russia itself creates many world problems out of the blue. Do you think the Assad regime will hold out for a long time?) But Russia will spend a lot of money on this regime, although the result is known in advance. And also the gays of Europe are also against the European integration of Ukraine, did you agree on a position with them?))))

    Instead of Western boobs you get a furry nipple, not there brothers are looking ...
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  44. Yazov
    Yazov 13 September 2013 14: 21
    +7
    Quote: chunga-changa
    Otherwise, soon some kind of Georgia will shell our ships illuminated by the Americans.

    I think that Georgia will never again be shelling anyone or anything Russian. Not that shelling, but even doing a yaw-yaw in our direction will not. Not 2008 in the yard. If, something on the tonsils and in a perverted form.
    1. German
      German 16 September 2013 00: 33
      0
      Mishiko on the tonsils ...
  45. albanech
    albanech 13 September 2013 14: 45
    +1
    It's just that Russia wants to show the United States that the master of the world is not the United States! It is necessary to reckon with the countries of the world and their desires, and there will be no dermatology like the United States! Stop shitting "master - slave - nigga" Obama! Obama! Obama! Shame on you and the Hague!
  46. lelikas
    lelikas 13 September 2013 14: 54
    +3
    Quote: Vrungel78
    Mykola. Our watchman just out of respect stopped at your customs. And so he could send tries and swim further.

    Bravo
    1. Lockbase170
      Lockbase170 14 September 2013 10: 21
      +1
      "Wife to Valuev: Kolya, do not go to the disassembly, there are three of them ..." laughing
  47. andru_007
    andru_007 13 September 2013 15: 16
    +3
    It's great that we have created a grouping in the Mediterranean Sea, but it is a pity that it was formed according to the principle "from the world on a string", literally from the fleet to the ship.
    I think the government’s revival of the fleet was previously hypothetically considered, well, they say it’s necessary, after the events in Syria it began to understand the practical need. I hope the correct conclusions will be made and this will accelerate the revival of the fleet! Well, we need it no matter how you turn it ...
  48. krokodil25
    krokodil25 13 September 2013 17: 43
    +2
    As they say horseradish Americans and not Syria! angry
  49. me
    me 13 September 2013 17: 47
    0
    Amer will tomahawk bombard the troops of Assad, we, in turn, are militants. Well, we can intercept missiles, in principle, we can’t do anything else.
  50. Alex-z84
    Alex-z84 13 September 2013 18: 35
    +2
    Quote: Dangerous
    Ukrainians in relation to Russia never sit on the ass forever, you always need to do minor dirty tricks, like Shopoklyak. It seems like neighbors are also taken, but either envious over the top (that Russia solves world problems, but nobody pays attention to them), or xs what else ...

    Not Ukrainians, but their government, the majority of Ukrainians treat us fraternally as well as most Russians to them.
    1. VDV 80-82
      VDV 80-82 13 September 2013 19: 51
      +2
      you are wrong! forget about this fraternity ... it's been gone for a long time! even in the east of Ukraine.
      1. Gur
        Gur 13 September 2013 21: 37
        0
        I disagree in the east ok west tin