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September 8 - Borodino Battle Day

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"This day will remain an eternal monument to the courage and excellent courage of the Russian soldiers, where all the infantry, cavalry and artillery fought desperately. The desire of all was to die on the spot and not to yield to the enemy."
M.I. Kutuzov

“Of all my battles, the worst thing I gave near Moscow. The French in it proved themselves worthy to win, and the Russians gained the right to be invincible ...”
Napoleon Bonaparte


Last year, Russia celebrated on a grand scale the 200th anniversary of the victory in the war of 1812 and the anniversary of the Battle of Borodino, a battle that demonstrated to the whole world the Russian soldier's indomitable desire for victory and readiness to fight for the Fatherland to the last drop of blood. The celebration of the 200th anniversary of the victory in the Patriotic War of 1812 included many solemn events, the holding of the largest militaryhistorical renovations, the implementation of a number of educational projects, from a series of television programs on federal channels and ending with open lessons dedicated to the events of 1812 in schools. The jubilee has passed, but this circumstance should not obviate the need to preserve the memory of those glorious, truly epochal events that had a tremendous impact on the course of Russian history and made Russia one of the most influential world powers, which it remains to this day. Let us not forget about the exploits of our ancestors, committed on that far away day on the field near the small Russian village of Borodino, whose name has become synonymous with courage and heroism, self-sacrifice and stamina that have been inherent in our soldier since centuries, selflessly loving his great Motherland. On that day, in the words of our then enemy Napoleon Bonaparte, we “acquired the right to be invincible,” and this right remains with us to this day.


Yegor Zaitsev
Prayer on the Borodino field 6 September 1812 of the year


September 8 - Borodino Battle Day
Vasily Vereshchagin
Napoleon and his marshals



Alexander Averyanov
Bagration in the battle of Borodino. Last counterattack



Nikolay Samokish
Feat soldiers General Rajewski under Saltanovkoy



Alexander Averyanov
Battle at Shevardino
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  1. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 8 September 2013 07: 07 New
    11
    It has long been, one of the brilliant pages of our history!
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 8 September 2013 08: 59 New
      +9
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      It has long been, one of the brilliant pages of our history!

      The title of the article:
      September 8 - Borodino Battle Day


      And also in OUR great common history, this day marks the 70 anniversary of the Liberation of Donbass from Nazi invaders.
      Happy holidays, dear!

      Memorial Saur-Tomb, Donetsk region, Miner's district.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 8 September 2013 09: 10 New
        +5
        Quote: Corsair
        Memorial Saur-Tomb, Donetsk region, Miner's district.
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 8 September 2013 10: 39 New
        +6
        Quote: Corsair
        Memorial Saur-Tomb, Donetsk region, Miner's district.

        A long row of steles with the names of the soldiers who entered immortality in battles for this height (designation on operational maps "277,9 height") ... soldier
    2. Mr. Truth
      Mr. Truth 8 September 2013 09: 32 New
      +3
      And the most bloody battle of the new time, right up to the First World War.
    3. bodriy
      bodriy 8 September 2013 11: 05 New
      +3
      Good morning to everyone !!! Tell me what was the name of the film that was shown last year about the Battle of Borodino on the holiday, they redid the old film there graphically! I could not find yesterday! Ps Syria forward !!!
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 8 September 2013 12: 41 New
        +3
        Quote: bodriy
        ! Tell me what was the name of the film that was shown last year about the Battle of Borodino for the holiday, they redid the old film there graphically! I could not find yesterday! Ps Syria go ahead !!!


        Unknown War of 1812. Borodino. Battle of the Giants (2012). You hammer in a search engine and look.

        1. bodriy
          bodriy 10 September 2013 09: 46 New
          0
          I respected it, thank you very much ... it didn’t work for a holiday, I’ll get comfortable and take a look! good
  2. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 8 September 2013 07: 22 New
    +9
    soldier "Tell me, uncle, it's not for nothing."
    Moscow, burned by fire,
    The Frenchman is given away?
    After all, there were fighting fights,
    Yes, they say, even what!
    No wonder the whole of Russia remembers
    About Borodin day! ...

    The enemy had learned a lot that day,
    What does Russian battle mean,
    Our hand-to-hand fighting! ..
    The earth was shaking - like our breasts,
    Mixed in a bunch of horses, people,
    And the volleys of a thousand guns
    Merged in a long howl ... This work is worth not just reading but studying
    thoroughly amer ....
    hi
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 8 September 2013 07: 35 New
      +7
      The battle of Saltanovka took place on July 23 (July 11 according to the old style) in 1812. As a result of the battle, an attempt to break through the 2nd Army of General Peter Bagration through Mogilev to join the 1st Army failed. The picture depicts the heroic attack of the General Rayevsky corps in the position of Marshal Davout. The task facing the attackers was to forge the enemy’s battle and discard his advanced forces in order to provide Bagration’s 2nd Army with the time to cross the Dnieper and eliminate the danger of its encirclement and cutting off the possibility of joining the forces of the 1st Western Army. The 2nd Western Army was saved from encirclement by superior forces, but at the end of the battle the French believed that it was they who had achieved success in the battle.
      During the battle, General Raevsky showed exceptional heroism. He personally led the attack and dropped one of the French battalions. There was a legend that Raevsky brought his two sons into battle, but the adjutant of the general, Batyushkov, in his memoirs indicates that Raevsky personally denied this rumor: "True, I was ahead. The soldiers backed away, I encouraged them. Adjutants and ordinaries were with me. On the left side they all interrupted and warped, the buckshot stopped on me. But my children were not at that moment. The youngest son was picking berries in the forest (he was then a real child, and a bullet shot him in panties); and that’s it, the whole joke was composed in Petersburg. "
      1. svp67
        svp67 8 September 2013 08: 48 New
        +5
        Nevertheless, they were HEROES and great patriots !!! In them was what we really needed - GREAT LOVE FOR THE MOTHERLAND, the willingness to sacrifice life for her and be people ...
        1. bask
          bask 8 September 2013 18: 51 New
          0
          under Moscow. The French showed themselves worthy of victory in it, and the Russians gained the right to be invincible ... "
          Napoleon Bonaparte

          The gut was thin, among the French and the European rabble that joined them.
          That Russia would win the Russian people !!!
          Remembering the story, it is necessary to prepare for a future war with the world hobbit beast.
          And crush these creatures, crush with God's help !!!!
          The succession of generations !!!!
      2. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 8 September 2013 15: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: Alex 241
        The battle near Saltanovka happened on July 23 (July old style 11) of the year 1812


        My great-great-grandfather slaughtered the Spaniards, as an argument, our family can present a medallion with the face of Isabella 1, which my great-great-grandfather took off from the Spaniard, who afterwards died when crossing the Berezina.

        who comes to us with a sword - to that !!!! am

        1. Patriot8482
          Patriot8482 8 September 2013 21: 29 New
          +1
          Whoever comes to us with a sword is easier to shoot)
          1. ImPerts
            ImPerts 8 September 2013 21: 41 New
            +3
            Quote: Patriot8482
            Whoever comes to us with a sword is easier to shoot)

            Whoever comes to us with a sword is easier to shoot himself laughing
            1. xan
              xan 9 September 2013 13: 42 New
              +1
              Quote: ImPerts
              Whoever comes to us with a sword is easier to shoot himself

              whoever comes to us with a sword without knocking is a surprise
    2. loft79
      loft79 8 September 2013 22: 34 New
      +1
      I remember in school, in primary school, we passed this work. Then in the classroom they read by heart.

      "I scored a charge in the gun tight
      And I thought: I'll treat a friend!
      Wait, brother, Mousy!
      What's there to cunning, perhaps to battle;
      We will go to break the wall,
      We will stand head and shoulders
      For his homeland!
      ..................... "


      And now the tribe is in the 3rd grade. Has no idea what, where and why. I took an interest in the school curriculum .... sadness, misunderstanding (how can this be so ?!) and only a mate rushing into my head. Sorry pent. recourse
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 8 September 2013 22: 39 New
        +1
        Well, let him see it, simply and intelligibly.
        1. loft79
          loft79 8 September 2013 22: 49 New
          0
          Thank. I will definitely show you. hi
        2. chehywed
          chehywed 8 September 2013 23: 28 New
          +1
          By the way, the great merit of Count Arakcheev is that Russian artillery was superior to the French. They write a lot about him as a tyrant and favorite of Alexander the First, but they write almost nothing about the fact that at the time of Napoleon's invasion, he, as chief inspector of artillery, carried out the reform, as a result of which the structure of the artillery units was changed, artillery brigades appeared, the caliber of guns was standardized. As a result, Russian artillery brought devastation to the enemy ranks, and victory in the counter-battery fight almost always remained fought for our gunners.
          1. Prometey
            Prometey 9 September 2013 08: 15 New
            0
            Under Borodino, our army had no advantage in artillery. It was stretched along the entire front, and the French concentrated the fire on hundreds of guns in a certain area and devastated the Russian ranks right up to the reserves.
  3. shpuntik
    shpuntik 8 September 2013 07: 42 New
    +8
    Against us were not only the French, all of Europe. And today, nothing has changed. There will be an opportunity and the Hungarians will trample and the Poles ... And some other kind of "...." Therefore, we, the Russians, should unite the traditions, unite, do business, help each other. Strongly twentieth century weakened. I hope to stand. We will be worthy of our glorious ancestors! Happy holiday to all!
  4. George
    George 8 September 2013 07: 43 New
    10
    Hello everyone .
    Great date.
    Marina Pavlenko is reading:
  5. Warrawar
    Warrawar 8 September 2013 08: 02 New
    +7
    September 9 is the day of Dmitry Donskoy’s victory over Mama’s horde.
  6. ImPerts
    ImPerts 8 September 2013 09: 11 New
    +4
    Kutuzov (a brilliant strategist), an old sly man, a schemer, courtier and flatterer, in this battle, confirmed Napoleon's doubts about the correctness of this campaign. The bet on Alexander’s fright did not materialize, a fleeting war did not work. With Napoleon, the presence of two capitals - Moscow and St. Petersburg - played a cruel joke. In general, everything was wrong in this idea and it ended in failure.
    And the Russian army once again proved its invincibility. And recalling one of the laws of Marxism - the transition from quantity to quality, in 1941, near Moscow, the invaders were utterly defeated.
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 8 September 2013 19: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: ImPerts
      And the Russian army once again proved its invincibility.

      When the kings ceased to intervene in military affairs, things went smoothly
      The most important thing here is not to interfere and guess with the commander in chief
    2. Fin
      Fin 8 September 2013 20: 12 New
      +3
      Barclay de Tolly was undeservedly forgotten in this war, who preserved the army during the retreat, and then was "squeezed" by Kutuzov from the army.
      But the battle of Borodino on heroism and courage was pulled out by soldiers and officers who fought on the left flank under the command of Bagration. Kutuzov almost did not manage the battle, as Raevsky wrote: "Nobody commanded us," and there are still contemporaries of contemporaries on this fact.
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 9 September 2013 01: 03 New
        0
        Quote: Fin
        Kutuzov almost did not manage the battle, as Raevsky wrote: "Nobody commanded us."

        I dare to assume that the directive was to stand to death. And Kutuzov only threw reinforcements in threatened places.
        On the other hand, Napoleon, on the contrary, had to spin like a frying pan to break through the defense. Kutuzov chose the right position, this is his merit
      2. chehywed
        chehywed 9 September 2013 01: 30 New
        +1
        Fin, not yours. The supporters of Bagration and Yermolov started the persecution of Barclay. Kutuzov did not prevent his departure from the army. During the battle of Borodino, Kutuzov perfectly saw the picture of the battle and reinforced the left flank and center at the right time. When the crisis of the battle ripened, he sabotaged the rear and the cavalry. He knew that the whole army from general to soldier was eager for battle and was sure that on the ground the generals can cope without his urges.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 9 September 2013 05: 46 New
          +2
          Quote: chehywed
          .He knew that the whole army from general to soldier longed for battle and was sure that the generals would manage on the ground even without his urges.

          We retreated silently for a long time,
          It was a pity, they were waiting for the battle,
          Grumbling old people:
          "What are we? Winter apartments?
          Do not they dare, commanders
          Strangers tear their uniforms
          O Russian bayonets? "
          M.Yu. Lermontov

          These words are applicable to our time, again Russia is retreating, again our “friends” are on the enemy’s side, probably the time has not come for a new Borodino

          And then we found a large field:
          There is a clear out where in the wild!
          Have built redoubt.
          Our ears are on the vertex!
          A little morning the guns lit up
          And the forests are blue tops -
          The French are right there.
          M.Yu. Lermontov

          As well as Americans, Germans and other NATO
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 September 2013 09: 26 New
    +4
    All these dates are on the calendar; present to Obama and put before his eyes, so that he saw and thought every day, thought, thought, thought ...
    And not behind the mountain and 11 of September ...
  8. Mr. Truth
    Mr. Truth 8 September 2013 09: 30 New
    +3
    "Of all my 50 battles, the smallest success was achieved in the battle of Moscow, the French had the right to be victorious, and the Russians had the right to be called undefeated ..." Napoleon Bonaparte.
    1. Deadmen
      Deadmen 8 September 2013 17: 35 New
      0
      Yes, he always said that of all my battles, the Russians were the strongest. He even once gathered the Russian prisoners at home and ordered them to be dressed in new uniforms and given banners and let go. So he respected them
  9. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 8 September 2013 09: 34 New
    +4
    HONOR AND GLORY TO HEROES!
    THERE WERE Fighting BATTLES,
    YES SAY ANOTHER WHICH.
    RECALLLY REMEMBER ALL RUSSIA
    PRO DAY BORODIN. soldier
  10. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 8 September 2013 09: 35 New
    +4
    good
    "Yes, there were people these days ...."
    (c) M.Yu. Lermontov
  11. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 8 September 2013 09: 42 New
    +3
    “Of all my battles, the worst thing that I gave near Moscow. The French showed themselves worthy of victory, and the Russians gained the right to be invincible ...
    We have something to be proud of! Now many hotheads in the west have clearly forgotten about it .. Will I have to remind you again ???
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 8 September 2013 11: 46 New
      +5
      They didn’t forget anything, which is why they are trying, through the media, to reduce the Russian contribution to the victories over Napoleon and Hitler
    2. nnz226
      nnz226 8 September 2013 19: 08 New
      +2
      As was said by A. Wasserman about attempts to revise the results of the 2-th World War. "So that in the West there are no attempts to revise the results of World War II, Russia must be ready to REVIEW these results!" Also about the campaign of "twelve languages" in 1812. Where are the keys to Paris? And in general: the 18 century - the best army in Europe - the Swedes, their war with Russia and we have a saying: "Burned like a Swede near Poltava", 19 century - Napoleon - after the Swedes. We have a new word "Sharomizhnik" (from the French "cher ami"), in France - Bistro (Russian - FAST!) + Term Berezina - a terrible collapse and pogrom. 20 century - the Fuhrer did not understand the signs of history - from the word Stalingrad, the Germans startled after 70 years, when their "soldiers" were buried there. Interestingly, those wishing to climb Russia in the 21 century will arise? And what the Russian language will replenish in this case, I think the language of the attacker will be wiped off the face of the earth.
  12. chehywed
    chehywed 8 September 2013 09: 49 New
    +5
    Many participants in the battle in their memoirs note the complete contempt for death among Russian soldiers and officers.
    Ermolov recalled how he drew attention to a company of soldiers who stood in line, not taking part in the case. He asked the officer from which regiment they were. “We are not a regiment, we are the combined grenadier division of Count Vorontsov,” was the answer.

    Vorontsov’s division fought bravely, but the enemy attacked with superior forces in the forehead. In the very first hours of the battle, the division was completely upset and later withdrawn to the rear. Of the four thousand people, according to Vorontsov's memoirs, on 27 of August (8 of September) there were 300-500 people with one lightly wounded officer in the division, and according to the combat report, there were 1560 lower ranks in the ranks. Vorontsov himself was wounded.

    After the wound, Vorontsov was brought to Moscow. Near his home in Moscow, Mikhail Semenovich caught about a hundred carts sent from his estate in the village of Andreevsky to take family heirlooms and other valuables there. Here in Moscow, he learned that in neighboring hospitals and just residential buildings there are many wounded officers and soldiers. Then Mikhail Semenovich ordered to leave his belongings as a sacrifice to the enemy, and on most carts to send wounded soldiers to the village of Andreevskoye.
  13. GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 8 September 2013 10: 07 New
    +2
    Eternal Memory to those who fell in this battle. Eternal Glory there who fought the French in this terrible battle. Eternal Glory Eternal Memory to those thanks to whom we speak. Eternal Memory Eternal Glory to the heroes. soldier
  14. polly
    polly 8 September 2013 14: 03 New
    +5
    In fact, no one forgot the Russian victories, of course, but gentlemen cannot forgive Paris and Berlin ...
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 8 September 2013 19: 14 New
      0
      Quote: polly
      In fact, no one forgot the Russian victories, of course, but gentlemen cannot forgive Paris and Berlin ...

      Yes there, Paris repeatedly gave up, as indeed Moscow
  15. michajlo
    michajlo 8 September 2013 14: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: Landwarrior Today, 09:35
    good
    "Yes, there were people in our time .... "
    (c) M.Yu. Lermontov


    Good afternoon, dear Sergey!
    You’re right, the poet’s poems to the place and in general to all of us and especially young people, it is worth re-reading RUSSIAN classics more often, where exactly and for many future centuries features of the simple Russian people, the courage of ordinary soldiers are described
    and the pretense, venality of courtiers and nobles who wiped their feet on their people as then and in exactly the same way as now, this still doing with impunity

    But in many future battles, I am sure of this, our not only Russian but also the Soviet people, Do not shame the honor of Russian soldiers and heroes of many military!

    I assume that soon there will be a "holiday on our street"!

    And all these today's "perfumed cream of society / the top 2%" will occupy him the relying bunk for traitors and criminals.
  16. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 8 September 2013 15: 25 New
    +1
    Friends!
    A year ago, on the 200th anniversary of the beginning of World War II, I was surprised to learn from the lips of A. Fursov, respected by me, that Napoleon brought some rabble to Russia, and, according to A. Fursov, he left the best troops (as much as about a million) and the best marshals in Spain. Well, it’s clear that there was some rabble, the same Poles, Italians, Spaniards, etc., but there were both the old guard and the new guard. Marshals Davout, Murat and others, well, not mediocrity in any way.
    Well, in any way, the rabble could not fight, as they fought near Smolensk, at Borodino, Malo-Yaroslavets ... Or was the Russian Army then worse than the European rabble? Then why did Napoleon say so about the Russian Army: “The battle of Borodino was the most beautiful and formidable, the French proved themselves worthy of victory, and the Russians deserved to be invincible”?
    Guys who can enlighten?
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 8 September 2013 15: 59 New
      +3
      Napoleon in many European states put his relatives in power and their armies participated in the invasion of Russia, but they were not a rabble
    2. uri33079
      uri33079 8 September 2013 16: 36 New
      +3
      The Russian army was smaller than the French. In qualitative terms, the armies were approximately equal, and of course there was no rabble with Napoleon. Russia held troops in the Caucasus, it was also hot there, and fought with Turkey on the Danube. The Russians did not have a chance to win the battle of Borodino, but to be defeated in full. The retreat after the battle and the abandonment of Moscow were dictated by the vital need to preserve the army. Napoleon was sure that the battle would continue the next day and he would defeat the Russians. Kutuzov outplayed Napoleon, strategically drawing him into the depths of Russia, not allowing him to defeat the army in parts, and forcing him to retreat along a devastated road. By the way, the Germans in 1941 succeeded in breaking up the reserves suitable from the depths of the country. Militarily, the battle of Borodino did not affect the course of the company either. We left Moscow, but everyone wanted a general battle , both French and Russian, Kutuzov couldn’t give him up. The surrender of Moscow without a fight would not be forgiven him, and they were almost guaranteed to be dismissed. Kutuzov would he had the experience of a war of attrition with the Turks, and he applied the same strategy to the French. In 1942, after a series of heavy defeats, they retreated to the Volga, Caucasus and Voronezh, but did not allow the Germans to finish off the remaining troops. This thereby stretched the front to the limit. the army bogged down in Stalingrad almost like Napoleon in Moscow.
      1. Prometey
        Prometey 8 September 2013 20: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: uri33079
        Russia held troops in the Caucasus, it was also hot there

        Yes, what is hot there - a raiding war with the Persians, the Highlanders sat in their villages, periodically making raids on the line. Before Yermolov there were 25-30 thousand regular troops there.
        Quote: uri33079
        Kutuzov outplayed Napoleon, strategically drawing him deep into Russia

        Kutuzov, having appointed the commander in chief, has already been confronted with the fact of surrendering the territory of the country to the enemy by 1 / 5. What is the strategy here, it smelled like treason in the higher echelons of power.
        1. ImPerts
          ImPerts 8 September 2013 20: 18 New
          +2
          Quote: Prometey
          Kutuzov, having appointed the commander in chief, has already been confronted with the fact of surrendering the territory of the country to the enemy by 1 / 5. What is the strategy here, it smelled like treason in the higher echelons of power.

          I hope to assert that Kutuzov would have given a general battle immediately at the border, or if you wouldn’t be near Smolensk. And as far as I remember, Kutuzov was already thinking about the surrender of Moscow, although the higher echelons were against it, a symbol after all. And he took the army away from Moscow, leaving it to be plundered.
          1. Prometey
            Prometey 9 September 2013 08: 35 New
            0
            ImPerts
            I’ll raise a slightly different question - why the country needs an army - probably to protect it from an external enemy? And what is a general battle - is this type of mass of troops wall to wall or something? Even if the first major battle took place at the border, neither the Russians nor the French, with all their desire, could use the whole mass of soldiers there.
    3. Prometey
      Prometey 8 September 2013 19: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: Peaceful military
      Well, it’s clear that there was a rabble, the same Poles, Italians, Spaniards

      The Poles, just the same, constituted one of the striking forces of the Napoleonic army at Borodino, and they fought fiercely and uncompromisingly. Probably not for nothing, Napoleon made the Ponyatovsky Pole subsequently the Marshal of France and considered him one of his best commanders in the army.
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 8 September 2013 21: 30 New
        +1
        The Poles, just the same, were one of the shock forces of the Napoleonic army at Borodino

        That's right, dedication is almost 100 thousand. nobody denies the Polish troops, but qualitatively, they were so-so, although, I repeat, they were selfless ... so they are almost the only survivors who covered Napoleon’s withdrawal ...
  17. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 8 September 2013 16: 02 New
    +1
    More than 200 years ago, our great-great-grandfathers gave a lesson to Europe: do not go to Russia! Unfortunately, they did not listen to our ancestors - they climbed and died from the Russian sword. Today, Europe is trying to teach Russia how to live. The western adversaries forgot how much grief and discord brought the Russian land. If possible, we will remind them of this. And the best memory of our ancestors will be the preservation of Russia by us, the descendants of BORODINETS.
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 8 September 2013 16: 21 New
      +1
      Unfortunately, they didn’t just climb and die, they killed the best representatives of our people, slowed down the development of our country for decades, they did everything so that a new type of development (economic, political) did not become the envy of their own population.
    2. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 8 September 2013 16: 25 New
      +1
      Yes, many great and greatest commanders about Russia have broken their teeth, but apparently history does not teach anyone
  18. uri33079
    uri33079 8 September 2013 16: 54 New
    +3
    Today is also the Kulikovo Battle Day. September 8.09.1380, 150. Although it was much earlier than Borodinskaya, but it was of tremendous importance for Russia. After XNUMX years of the Horde yoke, the Russians realized that they could successfully fight against the Golden Horde, and in the Horde they realized that the Russians should pay tribute regularly as before they will not be.
  19. waisson
    waisson 8 September 2013 18: 38 New
    0
    THERE IS NOT LIVING BUT I NANIMATE THE HEAD AND SAY THANKS TO YOU FOR BORODINO !!!
  20. lexa-xa
    lexa-xa 8 September 2013 19: 11 New
    0
    Dear author, the day of the battle of Borodino is celebrated on the first Sunday of September. This year, the anniversary of the Battle of Borodino was celebrated on September 1, at least there were reports on TV.
  21. Vadim2013
    Vadim2013 8 September 2013 19: 45 New
    +2
    He was on the Borodino field twice. Eternal memory to Russian soldiers and officers who fought there to death.
    “Bad they got a share:
    Few came back from the field.
    If it were not for God's will,
    They wouldn’t give Moscow away! ”
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    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 8 September 2013 19: 50 New
      +4
      Everyone knows about the battle of Borodino with the Napoleonic army in 1812 in our country. And almost 70 years ago almost no one knows that Russian and French soldiers came together in a mortal battle 1941 years ago, in the fall of 638, on the same famous field. At that time, Bonaparte's heirs broke into Russia as part of the Wehrmacht and were called the 1941th Infantry Regiment. In 1812, everything repeated the same way as in 15. The so-called French Legion went on the offensive, but could not stand the first Russian counterattack and was defeated, its miserable remnants were sent home (The testimony is given in the memoirs of a German general) .F.P. Usypenko. "The battle on the Borodino field on October 1941, XNUMX."
      1. ImPerts
        ImPerts 8 September 2013 20: 20 New
        +1
        Thank. It is interesting to learn about such details))) The transition of quantity into quality and history is developing in a spiral)))
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 8 September 2013 20: 23 New
          +1
          For the French at the time, “corkscrew” laughing
          1. ImPerts
            ImPerts 8 September 2013 20: 34 New
            +1
            Recently, they again have a surge of militancy. It would not have ended the next surrender of Paris and the introduction of new words in French)))
            1. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt 8 September 2013 20: 54 New
              +2
              Unusual this field.
            2. Alex 241
              Alex 241 8 September 2013 21: 47 New
              +2
              Hochma: A Russian paratrooper in a house of invalids examines Napoleon’s tomb. And he asks: “Who is buried here? They answer him: the greatest of the warriors who conquered half the world? Russian paratrooper: YES !! ?? And where did he throw himself out?”
              1. Glory333
                Glory333 8 September 2013 22: 40 New
                +1
                Ha this is from the book of the writer of science fiction Heinlein "Star landing" - another film based on it was shot about the war of people and insects.
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 8 September 2013 23: 00 New
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                  The film, compared to the soap opera book, is not even worth comparing.
      2. chehywed
        chehywed 8 September 2013 23: 02 New
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        Quote: Alex 241
        And almost no one knows that 70 years ago, in the autumn of 1941, on the same famous field in a deadly battle, Russian and French soldiers met again.

        And notice, judging by the banner of the regiment of Volunteer! And then France, which had fewer soldiers in the Resistance and de Gaulle's troops than in the Waffen SS, ended up in the winners camp. Politics .. mother of her ..
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 8 September 2013 23: 09 New
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          Be that as it may, bad things are not said about the French, at least because of this.
  23. svp67
    svp67 8 September 2013 21: 44 New
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    In general, it’s very remarkable. Kulikovskaya and Borodino battles in September

    Where you are standing now, there is Kulikovo field .......
    everyone needs to remember this.
  24. konvalval
    konvalval 8 September 2013 22: 54 New
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    Apparently they beat the French a little, since they are so obedient now to the Americans.
  25. Glory333
    Glory333 8 September 2013 22: 56 New
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    Unfortunately, the Russian army near Borodino could not be won, the battle was hard to say, unsuccessful and ended with the retreat of the Russian army, the French still believe, and not without reason, that Napolen won another victory on the Borodino field, after the battle his army moved forward and took Moscow .
    What caused the failure and was it possible to win? My opinion.
    1. The Russians failed to put up an army superior in numbers to the French in Borodino field, why it is not clear because the battle took place in the depths of Russian territory, imagine if there were 2 times more Russians, it is clear whose victory would have been.
    2. Kutuzov did not have outstanding military talents, if in his place a military genius like Suvorov was equal to Napoleon and the French would certainly have been defeated.
    4. The Russian victory was played by the fact that the French army was not completely French, it included a lot (maybe 1/3 maybe more) of foreigners, mainly Germans (Prussians and Austrians), for whom this war was a forced and foreign war - This favorable factor could not be used.
  26. Legioner_YU
    Legioner_YU 9 September 2013 13: 13 New
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    counted via translit:

    Bow and recognition to the heroes!
    Of my ancestors, only two died, but near Smolensk.

    He was still a child in 1982 with his parents in the USSR and visited the Borodino field and museum - I still remember :)
  27. ImPerts
    ImPerts 9 September 2013 19: 59 New
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    I do not pretend to the laurels of Triandafilov and Clausewitz ...
    Napoleon is a magnificent tactician who understood the battlefield once, twice, three times ...
    TACTICIAN.
    His strategy was to impose a general battle, where he achieved success and the speedy conclusion of peace. Before the campaign in Russia, he had two calls where his strategy did not materialize. Egypt and Spain.
    There are a lot of smart people. Let them prove to me that the campaign in Russia is different from this. That in Russia there were no military leaders who read and analyzed.
    Kutuzov read, thought and analyzed. The same thing I think about Barclay de Tolly and Bagration.
    Prove the opposite)))
    Quote: DC 3
    Napoleon led the larger masses of troops on the battlefields, which required a completely different approach to warfare. He is an innovator, a brilliant strategist.

    Prove)))