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Both with cells and with society

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What society are we living in today? - A question that is extremely difficult to give a definite answer. And is it even necessary to ask such abstract questions? - a certain percentage of our population will vote, - they say, they are not bothered to label them ?! Yes, of course, I got tired of it - they got bored with labels, for many labels they even went through the fate of a sort of paver. But now we are not talking about labels at all, but about the status by which we define ourselves, or at least try to determine.


Both with cells and with society


After the collapse of the USSR (I consider the word “disintegration” in this case not appropriate), the so-called socialist society disappeared. Society has gone, but people have remained, having received as a gift the widely spread idea that life has finally flowed into the mainstream of freedom and democracy. One could “freely” pay salaries for half a year, after which it was “democratic” to record his three-digit number in the queue for liver sausage or shoes that were suspiciously similar to those that used to stand on the shelves of the funeral bureau. So, has a democratic society replaced the socialist society? Is the power of the people all-conquering? ..

Some really believed that henceforth the democratic values ​​that were presented to the new Russia in a colorful wrapping with “mickey mouse” became the basis of their life. Others tensed up a little, realizing that the freedom declared on all TV channels constantly displays a sickening smell.

People, who plunged into this freedom and democracy, began to smell, as they say, and gradually began, according to a new life motto, to take everything from life. In this case, the word "everything" does not mean "all the best." They took, really everything - everything that our democratic donors ate: from jokes below the navel to noodles from industrial waste and to canned food with the image of the heads of African Americans.

The “democratic” society decided that the family, as the cell of any society, which had been declared for many years, is a vile retrograde. Politicians spoke about the rebirth of Russia, but at the same time, the words about rebirth were broken about the fashion introduced from outside the abuse of family values. The blow to the family and the original traditions that have been associated with it in our country for centuries turned out to be, perhaps, more powerful than the blow that was expected of the Russian family immediately after the October 1917 revolution of the year. Then the authorities declared that the family is a contradiction to the spirit of the revolution, and marriage is generally an anti-revolutionary "heresy." True, we must pay tribute to the government - she caught herself in time. The family was again clothed in the status of the main social unit and the moral values ​​of the family level began to be observed quite clearly and actively.

The collapse of the Soviet Union led many Russians to understand that if powerful empires collapse, then it’s kind of stupid to hold onto a family in such conditions. The overseas lifestyle that came to us along with the conditional “Santa Barbaras” said that the family is, by and large, not the main thing. No, it is not a public cell, for it can quickly transform depending on the wishes of the spouses, including the former spouses. One marriage during life has become almost nonsense and almost synonymous with the Middle Ages, but two marriages, three, five - this is normal, this is fashionable, this is democratic ... The element of a democratic society.

Today it is customary to say that the country has led to a significant economic downturn in the 90-s to the demographic pit. Of course, the collapsed economy played its negative role. But to the forefront among all the reasons for the emerging demographic failure, it is still necessary to bring not the economy, but the moral component of the new society. Children (referring to stories) in our country were born far not only in those families in which the level of well-being was high and far from only when the country lived in peace and tranquility, and therefore, it is wrong to write off the decline in the birth rate exclusively on the economy. Just marriage as a variant of the relationship between a man and a woman became something secondary, which means that children born in marriage became perceived by many for the second time. First - take everything from life! .. - And the children? - And it is possible and without children - why, they say, an extra burden for receiving benefits and increasing consumption ...

It cannot be said that no children born out of wedlock were born in the Soviet Union or there was no such thing as divorce. It was both. However, it was after our country was cut into pieces, declaring the victory of a “democratic” society, that the number of divorces began to grow more than noticeably.

To better understand how this social crisis has captured the minds of our compatriots, it is enough to cite some statistical examples concerning the number of marriages and the number of divorces, as well as the number of children born out of wedlock in our country (USSR and Russia) for different years.

Year 1960 (USSR). The number of marriages is 1,52 million. The number of divorces - 192 thousands. The divorce rate of the number of marriages - 12%. The number of children born out of wedlock is 12,2% of the total number born in the USSR over the 1960 year.

Year 1980 (USSR). The number of marriages is 1,51 million. The number of divorces - 568 thousands. The divorce rate of the number of marriages - 37%. The number of children born out of wedlock is 11,1% of the total number born in the USSR over the 1980 year.

Year 1998. (Russian Federation). The number of marriages in Russia was approximately 849 thousand. This is the lowest figure in the entire history of the new Russia (since 1991). The divorce rate for the same year is 521 one thousand. The divorce rate of the number of marriages - 61%. The number of children born out of wedlock is 28,1% of the total number of children born in Russia for the 1998 year.

Year 2003. (Russian Federation). The number of marriages was 1,07 million. The number of divorces for the same year is 870 thousand. The divorce rate of the number of marriages - 81% (the absolute record in the entire history of accounting). The number of children born out of wedlock is 29,3% of the total number of children born in Russia for the 2003 year.

Year 2012. (Russian Federation). The number of marriages entered into was 1,21 million. The number of divorces for the same year is 642 thousands. The divorce rate of the number of marriages - 53%. The number of children born out of wedlock is 24% of the total number of children born in Russia for the 2012 year.

The maximum number of divorces (as a percentage) in recent years is fixed in the Central Federal District. The minimum is in the North Caucasus Federal District. In the NCFD, over 90% of children are born in marriage, while the leader in the number of children born out of wedlock is the same Central Federal District.

If we talk about the situation by the ratio of marriages and divorces by region, then Ingushetia has the best indicators in this regard. There are total 9 divorces per 10 thousand population. A kind of record in 2012 year on the number of divorces set Kamchatka region. There are 69 divorces per 10000 population.

The results of sociological polls in Russia suggest that divorces occur for the following most frequent reasons:
alcoholism and drug addiction (40% of respondents expressed themselves)
adultery (about 30% of respondents).

As you can see, the first places are negative social manifestations, which once again emphasize that our society today, with all due respect to its individual representatives, can hardly be called healthy. By and large, we and society as such have managed to lose, turning themselves into separate individuals with a large set of personal and almost zero set of public interests. No wonder - when family values ​​turn into dust, then social values ​​look no more than a farce. It is interesting, when will often the recently used words about spiritual bonds and the revival of family traditions begin to bring the first positive results? Or will the words remain with the words, and our society will finally become numb at the level of the consumer gathering of the introduced pseudo-democracy with its dubious ideals? ..
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  1. Andreitas
    Andreitas 6 September 2013 09: 29 New
    +6
    All this is sad.
    1. Col.
      Col. 6 September 2013 10: 09 New
      11
      Quote: Andreitas
      Sad it all


      Not that word! The further we are led along the path of capitalism according to the “Putin plan”, the more I (like the vast majority of those “who are for 40”) are convinced that we are unbelievably lucky that we managed to live in the USSR, get a good education, free housing, having learned to value friendship, family, having the opportunity to watch beautiful films, read good books, not be afraid for the future of their children, not knowing who such “migrant workers”, “mayors”, “prefects”, “policemen” ...
      1. washi
        washi 6 September 2013 13: 02 New
        +4
        Quote: Colonel
        Quote: Andreitas
        Sad it all

        Not that word! The further we are led along the path of capitalism according to the “Putin plan”, the more I (like the vast majority of those “who are for 40”) are convinced that we are unbelievably lucky that we managed to live in the USSR, get a good education, free housing, having learned to value friendship, family, having the opportunity to watch beautiful films, read good books, not be afraid for the future of their children, not knowing who such “migrant workers”, “mayors”, “prefects”, “policemen” ...

        Well, of course, GDP is again to blame. It was he who destroyed the USSR, wrote the modern constitution of the Russian Federation, distributed production and agricultural land.
        Have you tried to fight alone against the crowd? Or maybe in the beginning it is better to agree, and then knock one at a time?
        1. Arberes
          Arberes 6 September 2013 13: 12 New
          +7
          Quote: Vasya
          Or maybe in the beginning it is better to agree, and then knock one at a time?

          Then I’ll ask you to start knocking out Serdyukov with a “comrade”!
      2. Far East
        Far East 6 September 2013 14: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: Colonel
        Not that word! The further we are led along the path of capitalism according to the “Putin plan”, the more I (like the vast majority of those “over 40”) become convinced that we are unbelievably lucky that we managed to live in the USSR and get good

        good good good in vo! I tell my boys photo videos I show they are just being fooled! yes yes video! with us they appeared in the early 80s. and my FATHER their grandfather says sho my CHILDHOOD was much BETTER! eeeh memories! crying sorry sho such a time is gone!
      3. Andrey Skokovsky
        Andrey Skokovsky 7 September 2013 02: 57 New
        0
        Quote: Colonel
        Quote: Andreitas
        Sad it all


        Not that word! The further we are led along the path of capitalism according to the “Putin plan”, the more I (like the vast majority of those “who are for 40”) are convinced that we are unbelievably lucky that we managed to live in the USSR, get a good education, free housing, having learned to value friendship, family, having the opportunity to watch beautiful films, read good books, not be afraid for the future of their children, not knowing who such “migrant workers”, “mayors”, “prefects”, “policemen” ...


        why then put it all together?
        or is it stupidly yet another throw in against GDP?
        Well then, set-off, earned ...
    2. alone
      alone 6 September 2013 11: 05 New
      +3
      this is not sad. This is a disaster. Every second child does not live in a full-fledged family.
    3. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 6 September 2013 11: 44 New
      +2
      even sadder because there is no ideological vacuum after the collapse

      it is filled with dogma, from all sects of religion to the concepts of criminal subcultures or atheist-satanist views

      society is heterogeneous, lonely, the worst is uneducated in both cultural-historical and religious-scientific

      will there be family value soon ?? what is this ?! no, have not heard
      1. washi
        washi 6 September 2013 13: 12 New
        +4
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        even sadder because no ideological vacuum after the collapse
        it is filled with dogma, from all sects of religion to the concepts of criminal subcultures or atheist-satanist views
        society is heterogeneous, lonely, the worst is uneducated in both cultural-historical and religious-scientific
        will there be family value soon ?? what is this ?! no, have not heard

        That's it. In our constitution, the absence of ideology was enshrined. Maybe it's time to reinsert the ideas of equality and fraternity.
        A family. Women are easier to propaganda. If they see a beautiful life on TV, they want to live as well. Not understanding what to sacrifice. Therefore, divorces. Being led to a beautiful life. And they don’t understand that it’s morally harder.
        And weak men, every day, instead of supporting, hearing accusations of lack of funds, either break down when they start drinking, or stupidly leave.
        Women: man’s head, and wife’s neck. Do not be jealous.
        1. Cpa
          Cpa 7 September 2013 04: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: Vasya
          Women: man’s head, and wife’s neck.


          A man is a head, a woman is a heart! Only in this way. When people understand this, we will be happy.
    4. Sergey_K
      Sergey_K 6 September 2013 18: 02 New
      +3
      Yesterday I was going home from work, the road near the house was all in puddles, there was no sidewalk. My uncle is riding in his bucket, I have nowhere to go, he can’t go round me already on my heels. I finally found where to jump and he drove me around with a rebase. Yes, but I sent him 3 times to ... sent, and I have no doubt that he sent me too. Why am I doing this? And to the fact that the rest of the way I thought, was it really so hard to make this fucking road wider. Is it really impossible to build parking lots near the house so that people do not bite on places? We are always on the nerves, we bite in line, then in traffic, then near the house and, finally, at home.
      1 \ 7 of the land, and the SNIP was invented for the Lilliputians, there is no place for a normal yard. This is not our country. My country makes me die in a trivial fight for a place for a coffin on wheels.
      People who run the country live in a different world, travel without traffic jams, buy 200 rubles from natural raw materials in the alphabet of taste of bread, do not pay for gas, electricity, etc. Damn it, they have their own magical country, with normal elite FREE apartments and courtyards where there are sandboxes for children. With underground parking. With tickets where necessary, and not like we, if you haven’t bought a ticket in 45 days, you won’t buy it or buy it for 3 prices. These people really don’t know what the metro fare is for. They are really shocked and disgusted when the dirt of our lives touches them.

      What kind of society do we live in? In the sick. At the moment, I think in a DEADLY sick.

      Who is to blame? Putin? Thought? We? I do not care to tell the truth. I live by the principle "In this country there will never be" normal ", there will never be equality of opportunity. I do not like it - leave!"
  2. Arberes
    Arberes 6 September 2013 09: 38 New
    21
    Another common reason for family dramas and divorces is the impossibility of a simple peasant hard worker to adequately support his family! And in my opinion is she worthy of at least 3rd place after alcoholism and treason?

    How so?

    Walked on wet asphalt
    A man in his prime.
    Look heavy eyes tired
    Cursed all of God's light!

    On the machine plowed the whole shift
    I drank tea from a mug
    He is a milling cutter like a magician
    Processed metal!

    Hands in scars and calluses
    They never let you down.
    He is poor for a penny
    Selling my honest work!

    Home daughter grows up
    A look with contempt on the father?
    Yes wife, like an evil witch
    Sawing from night to morning!

    Where are the brothers justice?
    Hard worker without a ruble!
    He is my neighbor on the porch.
    He is the same as me !!!
    1. Armata
      Armata 6 September 2013 10: 05 New
      +9
      Hello dear. Now they say that it was we who chose our rulers, that is, it is the workers who are to blame for the growing generation of effective managers. You remember about the USSR with good nostalgia, but there is one negative from the current state, and there really is nothing to remember except feces.
      1. Arberes
        Arberes 6 September 2013 10: 19 New
        +9
        Quote: Mechanic
        but there is one negative from the current state, and there really is nothing to remember except feces.

        Hello Friends! I wanted to add something to your thoughts, but nothing!
        Keep a present from my raging Я.

        How are you?

        Well, how are you doing there Judah?
        Does conscience torment at night time?
        Faster mole on a bald head will be erased
        How do we hear the voice of your repentance!

        How famously you managed with the UNION!
        Power along with Raika-collapsed!
        How I ate pizza, under the battle of Spassky Chimes
        And I received an order with a prize for this!

        And still I want to grab you by the thighs!
        Yes, plant deeper on an oak stake!
        Put a hot iron on the head
        And loudly declare- "THE PROCESS WENT" !!!

        Hit a good mood for poverty and sloppiness! drinks
      2. washi
        washi 6 September 2013 13: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Mechanic
        Hello dear. Now they say that it was we who chose our rulers, that is, it is the workers who are to blame for the growing generation of effective managers. You remember about the USSR with good nostalgia, but there is one negative from the current state, and there really is nothing to remember except feces.

        Whose children are these? and grandchildren? who raised them?
        Which of the lower party cells took part in the education of Komsomol members and pioneers?
        We are pioneers - children of workers (from the anthem of the pioneer)
        We enthusiastically (as pioneers) collected waste paper, participated in the landscaping of the city, etc. And then apathy. No recoil was visible. A simple man would come from the enterprise and say thank you. But this was not so. In exchange, we listened to representatives of the district committee with their ..... m.
        Aw. Communists (patriots) where have you been?
        1. Armata
          Armata 6 September 2013 15: 43 New
          +4
          Quote: Vasya
          Aw. Communists (patriots) where have you been?

          Here they were and remained.
          The pioneer organization brought up precisely workers, future Komsomol members, and not loafers. So is there anything that former Komsomol members and party members still work in factories? And so it is not that under the CPSU the worker received more than loafers-humanitarian? Well, yes now you can shout for the degeneration of the nation. Who is to blame?
    2. Sergey_K
      Sergey_K 6 September 2013 18: 29 New
      0
      Treason is nothing without insult. A woman is much more important with whom this happened than the fact itself.
      And if this did not happen to a neighbor / sister / girlfriend then:
      at age 25, she will cause a scandal to the whole world.
      at 35, he will say that he should go to this one, and you will say that you don’t know who she is, and indeed she didn’t stand next to her. And everything will freeze with a probability of 50/50.
      at 40 she will say: "Well, you, I feed you the dog, wash, and you!" and everything will freeze.
      at 50 she will say: "Well, you bastard, of course, but it’s still huge."

      But if you are with a person close to her, then you are a beast and will correctly do what leaves.
  3. svskor80
    svskor80 6 September 2013 09: 54 New
    +8
    We must not forget that in the USSR, party organs, public institutions acted as best they could on the unconscious builders of the cells of society, and divorce and career could be stalled. And now everyone doesn’t give a damn about what’s going on in anyone’s family. Divorced, okay, you don’t pay child support - well done, you’ll spend more on yourself. And the family life of a young couple gives rise to many problems, which many simply cannot solve.
  4. jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 6 September 2013 10: 25 New
    +4
    and some convince me of the opposite, motivating this by the fact that I am now writing from beech, and in the USSR there was a turn for slippers! And the arguments that I was proud of the USSR are not taken into account. Apparently, slippers with beech are more important to them than Homeland, although each has its own values.
  5. ReifA
    ReifA 6 September 2013 10: 34 New
    +9
    A slice from the men's forum about some of the problematic factors of the current family and reproduction.
    ---------------
    I give birth for myself.
    You are already under 30 (walking, loving, etc.), marry someone at least.
    All men, this even rich goat.
    The main thing that a man loved you, for the soul you will always find.
    Oh, 3 months ago my husband came from a business trip or not .. Whose child? And do not care, husband of course.
    Girls, my drank yesterday and cursed .. Throw it, he is not worthy of you!
    The divorce is cool - the goods gasp and groan, child support is ticking, we are looking for a new prince.
    --------------
  6. Uzoliv
    Uzoliv 6 September 2013 10: 44 New
    +2
    In the USSR, there could be several more divorces. Sometimes they got divorced because there was simply nowhere to go to live, the housing issue was very acute. I myself lived in a communal apartment for 22 years and saw many families who would be happy to scatter, but nowhere to go. It sometimes came to tragedies, in the house during the years that I lived there were two suicides. Families did not work out, but simply there was no way to go somewhere and people could not find another way out of the situation.
    1. washi
      washi 6 September 2013 13: 26 New
      +3
      You could always go where the apartments were given. It would be a desire.
      We moved to Kazakhstan, six months later got a kopeck piece (attracted to a new enterprise), after another 2 years treshka.
  7. klavyr
    klavyr 6 September 2013 11: 11 New
    +3
    In the current situation, young people do not want to start a family without hope for their own living space and social protection. People were deprived of ideas, forced to dream of material wealth and live for this. Democratic values ​​have turned society into a pack of wolves. That's just the wolves do not eat each other, and we will soon become.
    1. washi
      washi 6 September 2013 13: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: klavyr
      In the current situation, young people do not want to start a family without hope for their own living space and social protection. People were deprived of ideas, forced to dream of material wealth and live for this. Democratic values ​​have turned society into a pack of wolves. That's just the wolves do not eat each other, and we will soon become.

      And have young people in general dumbfounded, or some of its representatives?
      Let them search on the Internet for free housing. Only it needs to be worked out. But they don’t want to work. They are better off for free in House-2 or a Mexican vacation, or other poppin contest.
  8. Forest
    Forest 6 September 2013 11: 16 New
    +5
    All according to plan - grow a generation of consumers living one day.
    The situation does not change until the media are in the hands of traders.
    1. washi
      washi 6 September 2013 13: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: Forest
      All according to plan - grow a generation of consumers living one day.
      The situation does not change until the media are in the hands of traders.

      The media is still in the hands of "creative" figures. Where did Mikhalkov get the loot if it’s not possible to watch his latest films? Where does the pop music come from if most of them are not possible to listen to?
      It was the "honored" artists of the USSR who spoke on the side of EBN. He wanted the dough like in Hollywood. No wonder the artists were equated with prostitutes in the Republic of Ingushetia, only for high society. Well, the artists ....
      1. Forest
        Forest 6 September 2013 14: 03 New
        +2
        These "artists" are just a tool.
  9. shinobi
    shinobi 6 September 2013 11: 28 New
    +8
    Many people don’t look there a little. First of all, the propaganda statistics of femenism and emancipation, the main idea of ​​which was a woman, didn’t need a man, were the main ideas of the phenomenon. . His truth was crushed under Brezhnev, but not to the end.
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 6 September 2013 12: 46 New
      +4
      The problem is not emancipation. We still have a lot of women who live with drunks and tyrants, because after leaving them they will stay on beans. And no Femen will be able to explain to them that this dirty and drunk animal must be avoided. The problem is different, women began to earn on an equal footing with men. And sometimes higher. This is where the root of divorce lies. If a woman used to rub herself against a man, yielding to him in something, breaking him in something, then when a woman went to a well-paid job, the man simply stopped being needed. She will find adventures on the side. she is in no hurry to give birth to a child, and there will be no problems with this either, as they say. So women do not hold on to marriage. All marriages that I saw broken up, including my first, broke up at the initiative of women.
      1. washi
        washi 6 September 2013 13: 45 New
        +3
        In fact, the problem in the Second World War, when the men killed.
        We have only recently begun to compare the number of males and females.
        Sign of the people: more boys go to war
        1. Cpa
          Cpa 7 September 2013 04: 33 New
          0
          There are more boys in China!
        2. alicante11
          alicante11 8 September 2013 07: 59 New
          0
          Let's just say this can be a prerequisite for the problem that I have outlined. But, nevertheless, you must agree that even if 20mln men were killed during the Second World War, then they would need to replace a much larger number of working women. And in our country all women worked without exception. What does the salary by and large, has been aligned. Hence the independence and independence of women. for example, why send women into space? were we not enough male cosmonauts? Why did women need to be involved in heavy and hard work? And then if you watch Soviet films - the same "Big Break." A team of women works, lays asphalt, and Nestor Patrovich runs with a briefcase. Or in "The most charming and attractive." The head of the department is a man, and more than half of the department are women, and women go on duty as vigilantes, and men are filial. Not to mention such as “Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears” or “Office Romance”. These truly talented and beloved films, however, perfectly reflect Soviet reality regarding gender equality. Which was a big mistake. The Nazis were much more right here.
  10. Andrey312
    Andrey312 6 September 2013 11: 29 New
    +4
    Traditional family values ​​are good, of course, but there have been and will be divorces, and you won’t get anywhere. And wouldn’t it be more proper for a woman to divorce her alcoholic husband than to endure his whole life. But what about the children ask? Can a child be happy when the mother and father are unhappy? What will he learn from his parents? And if we are already talking about spiritual bonds and traditional values, then the problem of divorce and fertility is complex, and it needs to be addressed in a comprehensive way, but you can’t limit ourselves to just celebrating Family Day, love and fidelity ...
    1. Cpa
      Cpa 7 September 2013 04: 35 New
      +1
      If a girl married an alcoholic, what was she thinking about? And if he became an alcoholic with her, who needs such a wife?
  11. goody
    goody 6 September 2013 11: 32 New
    +3
    Quote: “Everything is according to plan” When will such planner-traders be chased ???
  12. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 6 September 2013 11: 42 New
    +2
    Thanks to the author! Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! .. Everything is so.
    I agree with Sinobi.
  13. saag
    saag 6 September 2013 12: 05 New
    +2
    "What kind of society do we live in today?"
    Yes, in the capitalist, with all its charms.

    Somehow he talked with one person from Germany, he says we have socialism, only capitalist production :-)
  14. optimist
    optimist 6 September 2013 12: 11 New
    +5
    Well, what did you want? As the saying goes, woe to the vanquished !!! And if someone thinks that while Amer’s tanks do not drive our streets and their soldiers walk, is Russia free? The main blow was inflicted on the main foundations of the state: family, education, army, industry. J. homeworkers calculated everything correctly: why fight with the Russians (you see, they will throw a still vigorous bomb) when they can be addicted to drugs, booze and other dubious pleasures? And there is no family, no children, no future for any country. I do not want to look like an old grumble, but most modern children resemble animals in their habits and level of intelligence. Just as 500 years ago the West sucked in glass beads for the Papuans, now most of our citizens will sell their mother’s mother for an imported car, etc.
  15. smart ass
    smart ass 6 September 2013 12: 44 New
    0
    I also got married this year that I get a divorce ... 53% do for statistics
    1. washi
      washi 6 September 2013 13: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: Clever man
      I also got married this year that I get a divorce ... 53% do for statistics

      And the point was to get married? You can marry a man you know and trust. On the strong rear. Just why bother documents?
      Although in the late 80s the 90s did fictitious marriages: get food stamps, alcohol, clothes.
      1. smart ass
        smart ass 7 September 2013 19: 55 New
        0
        4 years before the wedding met .... and after her they were different in character
  16. apro
    apro 6 September 2013 12: 56 New
    +2
    The implanted individualism (personal) multiplied by intolerance (to the opinions of others and desires) gives poisonous shoots.
  17. Petrol
    Petrol 6 September 2013 14: 08 New
    +1
    I WRITE WHAT FROM THE ANCIENTS ... the old people said that "THIS SYSTEM (state) is not for words that there is no continuity of generations from child to father from father to grandfather and vice versa", but about religion in general, a separate conversation ...
  18. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 6 September 2013 16: 09 New
    0
    The most terrible blow to the family is the Khrushchev dvushka. Oh, I'm silent about the one-room ... hell is pitch-black. By the way, do you know what hell awaits that unfortunate Hindu who did not start a family and did not have any child? The Hell of Unbearable Depression awaits him. No, I'm not joking.
    What is a family? This is her chapter - a capable, strong man. This is his father - already an old and already wise man, a teacher of children. Grandmother, mother and daughters-sons ... In kopeck piece ?! The USSR did not suit the family at all. The USSR really wanted "labor mobility", but did not want to develop management techniques, because it could not. He relied on simpler managers ... Well, these managers have found a solution that effectively destroys the family. Do each other live in the liver or go to hell? Good question, right?
    Yes, now there is a destruction of the family, and democracy here has corrupted powerfully (democracy in general destroys everything. All-all. Have you seen reports from the same England for a long time? It rots ...) but the process was not started by the democrats. The ideology of this matter and the main performers there. IN USSR.
    1. Col.
      Col. 6 September 2013 16: 49 New
      +4
      Quote: Mikhail3
      The most terrible blow to the family is the Khrushchev dvushka.


      It’s fundamentally wrong! For some reason, you “forgot” that after the war the entire European part of the country lay in ruins. Millions of people lived in barracks, dugouts, basements. In the shortest possible time, everyone was given housing, and for free! It was not up to fat. You need to bow to the legs for this, and you the USSR want for “kopecks”.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 6 September 2013 18: 23 New
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        I, like, remember. I have a good memory ... I also suddenly remembered - we are not in Japan! That is, we have forests - heaps, the whole world would be enough. Four cubes of logs, three cubes of lumber, concrete on a ribbon, a bit of iron ... So about ten times cheaper than the odnushka hruschecha. Do you know what it is? Five-wall house in 70-80 squares. A week on the foundation to grab previously, and three men with axes will cut down a five-wall from scratch in five days. And since we (again) are not in Japan, we have lands under such houses ... but you won’t believe ... Bow to the legs of this nest ?! Do not break the foreman ...
        1. architipai
          architipai 7 September 2013 01: 02 New
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          Miss one archival thing - a five-wall in a short time, well, and who will carry out engineering systems ?? Roads, sidewalks, playgrounds, kindergartens and schools, hospitals and more? The two were not separate, but with all the infrastructure equal for everyone - a chaotic suburbia without infrastructure is a time bomb - future favelas
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 6 September 2013 16: 51 New
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      Quote: Mikhail3
      The most terrible blow to the family is the Khrushchev dvushka.

      No need to compare Khrushchev with today's standards. At that time, after the hut and communal apartment, Hrushevka was for happiness.
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  20. mithridate
    mithridate 6 September 2013 16: 51 New
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    we are reaping the fruits of the work of Western minions, knowingly or not, but who worked to destroy the Slavs
  21. inc_non
    inc_non 6 September 2013 17: 18 New
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    I don’t understand what kind of contingent lives here? ? In each entry you can see comments in which dull naivety tears to shreds. For example:
    Quote: "apro"
    The implanted individualism (personal) multiplied by intolerance (to the opinions of others and desires) gives poisonous shoots.

    What kind of ideological crap? Everyone sees everything: the people thumps, fucks, gives birth to idiots and everything in a circle. What family and timid statements about the replacement of values ​​??
    Go and see, just don't break your eyes

    There are no secrets and conspiracies here, carried fuck and cut. In order not to see this, you need to be an idiot. Those who write topics with reasoning in which they try to express their own vegetable likeness through theorems are cowardly. There are no theories and conspiracies, only you. As you look at it, it will be so. The inscription "Faith -" is more useful than the article about the plan and there are no secrets here.
    whether I'm trembling, or right I have ...
    It’s up to you to decide who you are, there is no god, everyone will answer only in front of him. He let me die, cry, and know that he himself did it. There is nothing to breed Philosovskaya garbage: you either remained human or returned to animals.
  22. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 6 September 2013 19: 22 New
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    but for me, not so bad. my forever yesterday with my daughter and grandson, live in Norilsk, my sister with her descendants, lives in Kaluga, and my old mother and dad, I in Ukraine, I will always look after.
  23. Zomanus
    Zomanus 6 September 2013 22: 53 New
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    And bullshit would not get divorced. when nothing is mine? Previously, housing was tied. Is it a mortgage now? Previously, it was difficult for a woman to raise a child alone. Now it’s quite possible. Plus, the constant driving into the head of the idea of ​​"live for yourself", "freedom of choice." Personally, I am afraid of converging with a woman. having spent her strength, time, money and feelings on her, to lose her because she found a dude with a steeper jeep or decided to choose one more. Therefore, we generally have such a frivolous attitude towards living together. That would not be so hard to scatter, if that.
  24. officer675
    officer675 6 September 2013 23: 17 New
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    ... turning himself into isolated individuals with a large set of personal and almost zero set of public interests ... (c) quote: in my opinion, the key phrase of this article.
  25. corn
    corn 6 September 2013 23: 21 New
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    [quote = saag] "What society do we live in today?"
    Yes, in the capitalist, with all its charms.
    If it were, it would be easier and more understandable. And we are going our own way: the worst is from socialism and capitalism.
  26. corn
    corn 6 September 2013 23: 48 New
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    A woman with a jackhammer appeared, in my opinion, under Stalin. The need (and even the obligation), and not the right to work, appeared in the woman because of the inability of the man to support his family financially. This led to the appearance of masculine women and effeminate men. Not those, not others, are not able to be full-fledged personalities, which means:
    - men are not in a position to make decisions and bear responsibility for them (for example, to expel bad power from a ... broom, whether it was democracy or not democracy, in 1917 there was a monarchy);
    - women are not able to preserve the hearth (family) and raise children.
    It all happened in the period - guess for yourself.
  27. sergey1972
    sergey1972 7 September 2013 00: 05 New
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    friendship and love at that time depreciated, I think many of us have come across this. The article is very relevant and you can talk a lot about this.
  28. Sergey_K
    Sergey_K 7 September 2013 01: 53 New
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    Quote: Mikhail3
    The USSR did not suit the family at all. The USSR really wanted "labor mobility", but did not want to develop management techniques, because it could not.


    - I shake your hand. Absolutely agree. Here is just one little thing - now the same thing. In fact, our consolidation on the territory still works, as under the kings ...
  29. vanderhaas
    vanderhaas 7 September 2013 04: 07 New
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    Firstly, no one in the Soviet Union was falling apart (no matter how much my current neighbors would like it to), and the USSR died naturally, due to the lack of an effective management system. Just stopped breathing (no one gave a command).
    Secondly, it was difficult to come up with a system worse than the family: decisions were made by those who did not believe in God, or did not know Mother Nature. They were armed with the only correct teaching of the drunk about everything in the world. Hateful. What kind of family is it? Prohibit everything, let it all go on its own in the family. In general, little people - like cattle, so breed.
    Thirdly, a family without religion is impossible. This human institution is needed for the natural self-renewability of society. Moral self-regulator. It was then that it turns out that the family is no cell (Marxist abomination), but the will of God for two spouses, a man and a woman, with whom he, the Lord, gave love for one well-known purpose. And these two spouses should live in this vein. But who and how God understands / accepts / feels is not important. The main thing is that God be in the soul. Which, incidentally, has nothing to do with the church.
  30. Crang
    Crang 7 September 2013 08: 48 New
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    I will subscribe to every word. I’ll only add on my own that the demographic problem is mainly related to women. As the problems of the army, police and industry are the prerogative of men, childbearing is almost entirely and completely a female zone of responsibility. But women's brains are so arranged that they can’t control themselves and figuratively “go into the distance” without this control. Why in Arab countries women are monitored very strictly. In a democratic society, this is naturally very difficult to do. Plus, a gigantic social stratification in society is superimposed. When one drives a car, only on wheels from which the other will save his whole life. The larger the gap, the more difficult sexual relations become. Some “judges” here are women. The author gave interesting statistics: Year 2003. (Russian Federation). The number of marriages amounted to 1,07 million. The number of divorces for the same year is 870 thousand. The percentage of divorces from the number of marriages is 81% (an absolute record for the entire history of accounting). I forgot to add that according to the same statistics, out of these 81% of divorces, about 80% were initiated by women. Therefore, to maintain the normal cell of society, special attention must be paid to the education of girls. Well, for an example - we are men, we can overwrite as many women as we want and at the same time remain ourselves. A woman cannot do that. I got into a big city, one or two or three, and she is already either a prostitute with a crippled psyche, not capable of creating a normal family, or a “free girl” feminist who doesn’t need anything, for which men are nothing more than funny little animals. Their psyche is different. Which freedom, big cities and unbridled sexual relations simply break. Now women by the age of 20-25 often just have a huge amount of sexual intercourse (many guys at this age only lose their virginity). So this question is mainly a female question. Yes, they may be "growing up" faster (although I personally don’t understand what this very growing up is), but their brains are extremely unstable to any influences.
  31. Storm
    Storm 8 September 2013 15: 50 New
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    Female brains, of course, is a dark matter, and in the above post there is truth, but a man in a family should be a man: be the main thing not only in words but in deed, take responsibility, make decisions, be stronger than her at last. And then you look - the pregnant woman is standing in the subway, and the men are sitting (like sleeping) - the poor are tired. Believe her, it’s also not easy to stand with such a belly. Be peasants - give her a place. One must be stronger than them at last. Men have fallen in love - a holy place does not exist; women have to take on their role. That is the problem.
  32. albanech
    albanech 18 September 2013 17: 42 New
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    Capitalism is evil, 200 corporations share the world and the sphere of influence, and they all do not care! Politics is such that a person is no longer a value, but simply something that is not visible, with whom they are not considered. I had seen enough at one time when officials raised their heads like that, and some still raise their heads so as not to see us — we are nobody. The generals with whom I had to work were both good and arrogant f * cds who did not consider us to be people. I even barely took my legs — I went from Colonel to Lieutenant Colonel for a post — my colleagues from special structures hid me from the anger of a hot general. It’s time for men to raise their heads: to love a family - to be a family man, to respect women, to help, ask for forgiveness, and not be a reptile general. Do not be shy with the whole family to raise their heads high - proudly, together with your wife and children, go ahead against injustice - rejoice at the little things and make happiness in the family with your own hands! Respect and love your family, your children! Many have forgotten what friendship and love are! It's time to live, live - love!