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Weekdays of the Far Eastern Federal District: Ivanovich was changed to Petrovich

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During a visit to the flood-affected Far East region of the country, President Vladimir Putin announced that instead of Viktor Ishayev, the new presidential envoy to the Far Eastern Federal District would be the current presidential aide Yury Trutnev. The president said that the resignation of Viktor Ishayev from this post does not need to be associated with the situation with the flood in the Far East. Vladimir Putin spoke in the spirit of replacing Ishayev with Trutnev — a planned one, and Viktor Ivanovich (Ishayev) himself knew about it. At the same time, Viktor Ivanovich’s appearance said that this kind of knowledge came to the presidential envoy in the country's easternmost federal district and part-time minister for the development of the Far East only recently, and the head of state’s order remains uncomplaining ...


Weekdays of the Far Eastern Federal District: Ivanovich was changed to Petrovich


So, Viktor Ishayev held out on two posts (permanent representative and federal minister) for a year and three months. During his work in these statuses in the region, one can note the holding of the APEC summit in September 2012 on Russky Island. Immediately after this representative forum, episodes of corruption and fraudulent schemes began to surface, according to which officials and managers of large companies acted. In particular, the ex-deputy minister of regional development Roman Panov was awaiting criminal prosecution for a scam in the amount of more than 90 million budget rubles. Oleg Bukalov, who headed the Far Eastern Directorate of the Ministry of Regional Development, lost his post. Financial checks are continuing to finance contractors from the amount of funds allocated by the federal center.

Criticism extended to Ishayev himself, who was blamed for not being able to control the spending of monetary resources allocated from the budget at the last stage of preparation for the summit. Criticism was directed at Ishayev also due to the fact that under his leadership in the Far Eastern Federal District the unemployment rate continued to remain higher than the average for Russia (official statistics from the Federal State Statistics Service: 6,4% - in the DFO, 5,4% - in the whole of Russia). At the same time, the level of private investment during Ishaev’s time at important posts has significantly decreased.

Ishaev was also reminded of the lack of effective steps aimed at improving the demographic situation in the region. The population outflow from the region since June 2012 has increased by about 4%, which has led to a continued decline in the number of residents in the district. Today, the entire territory of the Far Eastern Federal District is inhabited by just 6,25 million people, which is about 4,35% of the population of the whole of Russia.

Certainly, expecting Viktor Ishayev to work as Minister for Development of the Far East and Permanent Representative of the President in the DFO like the mythical Hercules for a year and a little to clean all Augean stables, at the same time increasing the birth rate among the local population and the attractiveness of the region for private investors. But "above" they decided that Viktor Ivanovich as the official responsible for prosperity in the Far East had no prospects, and therefore, Ishaev should be replaced in all his posts as a matter of urgency. It is noteworthy that this decision was announced precisely at the time when the Far East had covered with a tremendous flood, to eliminate the consequences of which, according to the most modest calculations, at least 30 billion rubles would be required.

It is not known how much the head of state was disturbed by Viktor Ishaev’s not quite intelligible work on raising the prestige of the region, reducing unemployment and attracting private investment, but it can be assumed that the president was concerned about the future distribution in the DFO of funds allocated from the state budget to eliminate the consequences of large-scale flooding. At least, the decision to remove Ishayev at this very moment leads to certain thoughts.

If so, then it turns out that Putin does not trust Ishayev as a controller of financial flows. They say that once I burned at the APEC summit, it means that we need to take into account previous experience, and not give Ishaev a new chance.

But if there is no trust in Ishayev, then it turns out that such representatives of higher authorities have trust in Trutnev? .. How is it supported?

Trutnev for 8 years was the head of the Ministry of Natural Resources and Environment, and of these eight years 4 he worked under the direct command of Vladimir Putin in the Cabinet headed by that Cabinet. It is noteworthy that it was at this time that Yury Trutnev managed to set fantastic records in terms of income among all members of the government. For example, in 2009, Yury Petrovich earned 155 million rubles, and in 2012, more than 210 million rubles. Yury Trutnev's fascination with not cheap means of transportation is also worth noting. According to the declaration, Yury Petrovich has the following fleet: “Porshe Cayenne Turbo”, “Maserati GranTurismo”, “Volkswagen Touareg”, “Nissan Patrol”. As they say, there is plenty to choose from during inspection trips to the Far East ...

After leaving the government, Yury Trutnev did not remain behind the fence of power. He had to relocate to the position of assistant to the head of state, from where 31 August 2013, he was again transferred to the government, appointing the deputy chairman of the head of state in the FEFD as his deputy. Now, in his new status, Yury Petrovich will have to exercise control over the expenditure of the allocated funds for the elimination of emergency situations in the Far East. However, not only that ...

From the press service of Vladimir Putin, it was reported that the Ministry of East Development after Ishayev’s resignation may undergo significant structural changes. Trutnev immediately stated that first of all about the appointment of a new head of this ministry, and that he (Trutnev himself) already has some thoughts about a possible candidate. Who specifically had in mind the new permanent representative in the DFO and Deputy Prime Minister, he did not specify. Perhaps this will be another person from, as they say now, the “team”, which outwardly experiences some modifications, but, in fact, consists of the same surnames.

What will the next shuffle of this "team" lead to? I would like to believe that to the real development of the Far East, and not exclusively to the replenishment of fleets and residential funds of its representatives.
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  1. VasDA
    VasDA 2 September 2013 08: 17
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    One can only hope that for the Far East it will only be beneficial ... Well, in the meantime, we are not discouraged and are looking for positive things ... wink

    http://fc-skaenergy.ru/main/index.php/the-news-lenta/35-demo-content/1070--2222
    1. Civil
      Civil 2 September 2013 10: 17
      +3
      And to transfer the capital there is a good promising idea; for a long time there were no good thoughts.
    2. Alez
      Alez 2 September 2013 11: 22
      +3
      Unfortunately, with officials, as in mathematics, the amount does not change due to a change of position. Most likely, the amount of the cautious budget will increase.
  2. Hoist
    Hoist 2 September 2013 08: 50
    +8
    Well, of course. Another protege from Moscow is much better versed in the characteristics of the region than the local ones. They are here on a business trip. The main thing is that the money go to the center, the more the better. If it goes well, they pat on the shoulder and send them to the next promotion, and there they will send another, and all over again.
    1. avt
      avt 2 September 2013 09: 58
      +1
      Quote: Izar
      Well, of course. Another protege from Moscow is much better versed in the characteristics of the region than the local ones.

      And don't say. That's how many competent managers in the Far East, yes, popularly elected, Kondratenko, Seryozha Shepelyavyy, they really complained about him to the same VVP via teleconference, but they are definitely fake Muscovites, Winnie the Pooh was the mayor of Vladivostok, and after all, everything was fine in the region, well And yes, this one, I forgot how he was, well, that he danced in a woman's dress, and then his sponsor, a Korean, moved to the Duma in Moscow. Well, Ishayev, of course, this one knew all the needs of the region, he even wiped every teardrop local with Jem, so in the end he was honored with GDP, "Will you work?" Probably, the GDP was worried about sending money to Moscow. the target program in the district by 70% and the allocated money not spent on it? Well, with regards to the new protégé who flew to Moscow from the north, by the way, let's see what will happen next year. We changed the cuckoo for a hawk, let's see where this one will fly.
      1. Hoist
        Hoist 2 September 2013 10: 12
        +2
        A familiar trait is better than a trait of an unfamiliar. The first did at least something in due time. And the second is famous for what is good? Though not sent Chubais, and thanks for that.
        1. ksan
          ksan 2 September 2013 13: 08
          +1
          Izar RU Today, 10:12 ↑

          A familiar trait is better than a trait of an unfamiliar. The first did at least something in due time.
          So GDP is not satisfied hell who at least did something.A gentle man who would fulfill his (Putin's) instructions on the development of the Far East.
      2. shpuntik
        shpuntik 2 September 2013 11: 05
        +2
        avt (2) SU Today, 09: 58 ↑
        And don’t talk. That's how many competent managers were in the Far East, and popularly elected, Kondratenko, Seryozha Shepelyavy ...

        You are wrong about Ishaev. Jem was removed in his presence, and the "common" group was crushed. The people did not speak badly about Ishaev, with him life began to improve. And he was for the development of the Far East. He was removed this way, according to the scheme: transfer to the plenipotentiary-theft at the "summit-flood" -resignation. Removed for unwillingness to participate in kickbacks.
        1. Ka-52
          Ka-52 2 September 2013 11: 33
          +2
          Sorry shpuntik Could you be more specific with numbers, facts, links!
          Not for sarcasm, but for interest. The people will thank you, otherwise there is little information. wink
          1. shpuntik
            shpuntik 2 September 2013 13: 32
            +1
            Ka-52 RU Today, 11:33 ↑ New
            Forgive shpuntik you could not be more specific with numbers, facts, links!

            If at a school in Komsomolsk, a third-grader is asked: "who are you?", He: "obschakovsky". Another: what about you? "athlete". Third: "decent". What are the numbers here? smile Jem died in a pre-trial detention center after a cafe in Komsomolsk was burned down ("Charodeyka"? Emnp) with graduates. By the way, in Komsomolsk, not Khabarovsk, there was a criminal center for the entire Far East.
            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Cafe_AnchorEnchantress »
            In fact: Ishaev did not suit the Kremlin. This is what we are seeing now.
            Look at the fate of the NEA, now another governor. They will tidy up the business in the Far East, forest plots. My opinion. The opinion of the Far East has long been formed: they would have lived better without Moscow, they take taxes, but they don’t go back. Just robbing the Far East and all. The numbers?
            "2,1 million people left the Far East in twenty years."
            hab.mk.ru/news/2013/03/13/825329-s-dalnego-vostoka-za-dvadtsat-let-uehalo-21-mln

            -chelovek.html
            Here is a video about the "development" of the Far East:

            The flooding figures are known: 25% more than the historically maximum level. If we take into account a flatter shore, then the volume of flowing water is two times larger. I mean that it does not go in line with, and in order to raise the water level by the same amount, a larger volume is needed. This is a state district power station - definitely.
            http://ria.ru/hab/20130807/954746186.html#ixzz2diX6vQQV

            1. ivshubarin
              ivshubarin 2 September 2013 14: 00
              0
              Well, "athletes", "vagabonds", "decent" were, now "authoritative people" have been jailed and no one has bothered with this for ten years.
        2. ksan
          ksan 2 September 2013 13: 21
          +2
          The people didn’t speak badly about Ishayev, with him life began to improve.
          Considering the amount of "poured" money into Dalny, there would be "life to start to improve" under Vanya Fortochkin.
          And he was for the development of the Far East.
          And who is against! ??laughing In the "light of the party's policy" - ALL FOR! wink
          1. Far East
            Far East 2 September 2013 13: 51
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            Quote: ksan
            Considering the amount of "poured" money into Dalny, there would be "life to start to improve" under Vanya Fortochkin.

            Dear, you are well done! good and Ishaev this took a sip! PU puts his sho would be POEZ tidy to Muscovites they need loot from somewhere to draw. and this will be a tidbit. something like that hi
    2. ksan
      ksan 2 September 2013 13: 02
      -2
      Izar RU Today, 08:50 AM New

      Well, of course. Another protege from Moscow is much better versed in the characteristics of the region than the local ones. They are here on a business trip. The main thing is that the money go to the center, the more the better. If it goes well, they pat on the shoulder and send them to the next promotion, and there they will send another, and all over again.
      Maybe not better than "local", but apparently there is no trust in "local". wink As for the "money in the center" - the Far East still receives more than it gives. And as for Trutnev, it is quite logical for Putin to put "his" person. Putin has repeatedly stated "that the development of the Far East is a priority task of the state," so it means that people who work there he must trust.
      1. Far East
        Far East 2 September 2013 13: 56
        +2
        Quote: ksan
        The Far East is still receiving more than giving

        the wisest you are talking about! FOREST, NATURE., MINERAL., OIL, GOLD, FISH, can not be counted. and after that you say sho we get more money! FROM US MORE TAKE OUT remove pink glasses sir! hi
  3. anip
    anip 2 September 2013 09: 10
    +3
    What will the next shuffle of this "team" lead to? I would like to believe that to the real development of the Far East, and not exclusively to the replenishment of fleets and residential funds of its representatives.

    Are there still people in the Russian Federation who believe in this?
    ..
    Touching the topic a bit:
    Serdyukov removed suspicions of the sale of land in the suburbs.
    http://news.mail.ru/incident/14506752/?frommail=1
    Here it is. Who else believed (believes) in justice and justice?
    1. ksan
      ksan 2 September 2013 13: 12
      -3
      anip RU Today, 09:10

      What will the next shuffle of this "team" lead to? I would like to believe that to the real development of the Far East, and not exclusively to the replenishment of fleets and residential funds of its representatives.

      Are there still people in the Russian Federation who believe in this?
      I believe hi Just don't be confused"state wool with personal" and everything will be fine wink
  4. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 2 September 2013 09: 18
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    Vladimir Putin spoke in the spirit that Ishayev’s replacement with Trutnev was planned, and Viktor Ivanovich (Ishayev) himself knew about this. At the same time, the appearance of Viktor Ivanovich said that this kind of knowledge had recently come to the President’s Permanent Representative in the easternmost federal district of the country and, concurrently, the Minister for Development of the Far East, and he remained obedient to obey the order of the head of state ...

    Sweetened the GDP to the pill Ishaev. Let's see how long Trutnev will sit. God grant that there will be no more floods!
    1. Hoist
      Hoist 2 September 2013 10: 19
      +3
      Precisely, Ishaev just had to come up, kick a good shot at Amur, he would immediately retreat. All that is happening here now is not the reasons, but the consequences of the short-sightedness of the previous years, both when housing was mortgaged and when the roads were built. Until the roasted rooster on the mountain crosses itself three times with cancer, no one will think twice in advance, and will not spend an extra penny "just in case".
      But Trutnev would be nice not only to sit, but also to work, so to speak, to work out his Porsche and Maseratti. Then, this, perhaps, will not happen again.
      1. ksan
        ksan 2 September 2013 13: 26
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        But Trutnev would be nice not only to sit, but also to work, so to speak, to work out his Porsche and Maseratti. Then, this, perhaps, will not happen again.
        I agree. Let's see what good will be of him. Putin has repeatedly proved that there are no untouchables for him.
      2. svp67
        svp67 2 September 2013 13: 29
        +1
        Quote: Izar
        But Trutnev would be nice not only to sit, but also to work,
        A person with SUCH surname as something ... well, you don't quite trust that he will work well. Well, this is the first impression, so to speak by "we meet clothes ..." it is more interesting of course "to see off ..." what are we going to do?
  5. Oskar
    Oskar 2 September 2013 09: 31
    +6
    First, Ishaev's program for the development of the Far East was slaughtered. Now it's the turn of the author, who has repeatedly allowed himself to criticize Putin himself. Yes, and at shipbuilding plants (ASZ, KhSZ) and the Far Eastern Plant Zvezda, he defended his point of view ... All the same, he always remained the "red director" - there is no getting away from this.
    I think the castling was carried out not out of concern for the Far East, but to strengthen the corrupt "vertical". In the context of a possible increase in the flow of budget money to the Far East, not a single ruble should pass "by" "good" people. Yes, and you need to live according to the directives from the Kremlin, and not based on your own harmful ideas and perceptions.
    He will always be remembered as a governor, who managed to properly ensure life in the region in the 90s (especially against the backdrop of constantly shaken neighbors: Primorsky Krai and Amur Region) and saved not only KnAAPO. Many human thanks, dear Victor Ivanovich!
    1. avt
      avt 2 September 2013 10: 16
      -3
      Quote: Oskar
      First, Ishaev's program for the development of the Far East was slaughtered. Now it's the turn of the author, who has repeatedly allowed himself to criticize Putin himself. Yes, and at shipbuilding plants (ASZ, KhSZ) and the Far Eastern Plant Zvezda, he defended his point of view ... All the same, he always remained the "red director" - there is no getting away from this.

      Cut off how? I mean, he really got the authority and a post in the government, which is a huge one for the apparatchik. Well, what's the criticism? Was it that at the meeting under the camera I couldn’t even present passports for the planned construction projects for the allocated funds, or was it a telepost and everything else?
      Quote: Oskar
      Yes, and at the shipbuilding plants (ASZ, KhSZ) and the "Far Eastern Plant" Zvezda "defended his point of view ... All the same, he always remained the" red director "- there is no getting away from this.

      In one of the trips to the Far East, the GDP somehow gave out that he could not find who the beneficiary, ugh, the owner of the shipyards, is that how? Aa, of course, during the time of Chubais's privatization they took it for themselves, solely out of “red, patriotic” considerations.
      Quote: Oskar
      In the context of a possible increase in the flow of budget money to the Far East, not a single ruble should pass "by" the "good" people. Yes, and you need to live according to the directives from the Kremlin, and not based on your own harmful ideas and ideas.

      Yes, they send it, according to a well-beaten track and an established scheme. They bring the matter to the fall and close most of the work with empty cops, so our good husband, the sovereign, has mastered 30% in the summer and has already prepared for the closing of the fiscal year, well, according to the old scheme. Yes, something did not grow together, there were even daggers in Domodedovo covered with ready-made black cash, and our hero suddenly threw the GDP, presenting where the work supposedly was. It’s like the rain helped - it was really possible to write it off to the elements, but they wrote it off. But don’t worry, it’ll come up yet, this trump card is wonderful from the deck, they don’t drop those, but if they’re still demolished, it means that it’s not childish in some part of their game .
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik 2 September 2013 11: 29
        +3
        avt (2) SU Today, 10: 16 ↑
        In one of the trips to the Far East, the GDP somehow betrayed that someone could not find the beneficiary, pah, the owner of the shipyards, how is it?

        Dear AVT, as the song says: "This is a redhead all to the public." Everyone knows what the beneficiary is: Kheifits, from their entourage, is the IIB bank. VVP arrived when everything that could be stolen, Ishaev does not appoint the director of the ASZ. This is OJSC, state order-money does not go over the edge; on the contrary, only taxes will be able to take from the enterprise.
        Have you lived or live in the Far East?
        1. avt
          avt 2 September 2013 12: 38
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          Quote: shpuntik
          GDP came when everything that can be stolen

          An hour not at the popularly elected local Kondratenka, a fighter with Chubais? Well, on the rest of the points, can you comment on something, or just what you like? Raisins from a loaf?
          Quote: shpuntik
          Ishaev does not appoint the director of the NEA. This is an open joint stock company, state order-money does not go over the edge; on the contrary, it can only take taxes from the enterprise.

          You don’t imagine it, but it seems that you don’t know the level of authority that Ishayev received from the GDP, this is actually the second, after Khloponin, the classmate of Prokhorov and his friend, the case of combining the posts of different branches of government - the presidential and the government, and even your own pocket ministry in the government With almost personal budget funding they gave, even Khloponin doesn’t have this and the apparatchik of Ishaev’s level could do a lot of great business having his own specific team subordinate to him, he could really, but he ate a chizhik’s campaign laughing being in fact the governor of the tsar in the Far East with all the powers that allow him to work in the federal government, in what you call Moscow in general, to refer, in case of disagreement, to the will of the president as he is his representative, and when speaking with equal vice prime ministers in general gently send them all to ginetalia of both sexes, and in fact he managed the budget, both local and federal, by spending federal money through his pocket ministry.
        2. ksan
          ksan 2 September 2013 13: 39
          0
          shpuntik RU Today, 11:29 ↑

          GDP came when everything that could be stolen, Ishaev does not appoint the director of the NEA. This is an open joint stock company, state order-money does not go over the edge; on the contrary, it can only take taxes from the enterprise.
          So all the same plundered?? And you know, dear Roman, that the Presidential Plenipotentiary's powers and levers of influence are not less than those of the governor. And if HE (PolPred) cannot keep "the situation under control" then why is HE needed ?? hi
          1. shpuntik
            shpuntik 2 September 2013 14: 19
            +1
            ksan SU Today, 13:39 ↑ New
            shpuntik RU Today, 11:29 ↑
            And you know, dear Roman, that the Presidential Plenipotentiary's powers and levers of influence are not less than those of the governor. And if HE (PolPred) cannot keep "the situation under control" then why is HE needed ??

            Khloponin, in the Caucasus and Stavropol Territory, "keeps the situation under control"? I'm not saying that Ishaev is white and fluffy, I say: Putin is a liar. Flooded so many people. Moreover, he emphasized that Ishaeva removes not in connection with flooding. Because if he accuses Ishayev of slowness, he can blurt out too much about the Bureyskaya state district power station. Scheduled replacement. What it is connected with, why they didn’t work together is unknown. It’s not Ishaev’s business, it’s all a theatrical production.
            At first, "vomited a stream of water ???" negative the lid on the Sayano-Shushenskaya state district power station, then Krymsk, now the Amur residents were flooded, is that Ishaev to blame?
            Well, he made money on the governorship, when the crime was in charge of the Far East, and the account was abroad, but I see in him a decent person who did not want to take part in Putin's scams. He is just shocked by these combinations, so he did not participate. This is in my, "sea bulging eye" tszt, a purely personal opinion, tszt of the man in the street. I express it. I do not pretend. hi
            1. avt
              avt 2 September 2013 15: 41
              +1
              Quote: shpuntik
              Khloponin, in the Caucasus and Stavropol Territory, "keeps the situation under control"?

              You simplify, everything is much more interesting, considering that he is an ambitious guy, he was not sour in the region and he was strong friends in the financial college - Prokhorov and Kozlov, the late deputy chairman of the Central Bank, then they control him in the Caucasus, and not he, they stopped him his presidential ambitions and support of the clan by appointment to the slaughter site, created him a region, introduced him to the government, uploaded by no means indulge in success. Kozlov in Moscow was inundated on Oleny Val, finding some offended banker, the customer, and the deputy chairman was that Mavrodi introduced the system in the form of state obligations for which the Central Bank of ALL banks in the country signed and which in 98 m .. well, in general - Chubais is to blame. laughing So Prokhorov remained alone in the "fraternal circle" as a candidate for president and party construction, although he added his women from Norilsk Nickel to the government.
              Quote: shpuntik
              but I see in him a decent person who did not want to participate in Putin's scams. He was simply shocked by these combinations, so he did not participate.

              Well this is too much! Didn't participate. Not allowed to participate. How much I didn’t strain, well, I couldn’t remember who, in his right mind and firm memory, climbed to such a level suddenly, like a nervous schoolgirl, refused everything and left. And even when you want - hell, brotherly circle "will let go, Lenya Brezhnev will example. And with such powers, both the plenipotentiary and the deputy prime minister with a pocket ministry, with the accumulation of ALL cash flows, both federal and local in the same hands, do not voluntarily resign, only to a new place of work, or to a personnel reserve. laughing
              1. shpuntik
                shpuntik 2 September 2013 19: 44
                +1
                Marshal
                avt (2) SU Today, 15: 41 ↑
                So Prokhorov remained alone in the "fraternal circle" as a candidate for president and party construction, although he added his women from Norilsk Nickel to the government.

                Well, here I am not strong in the details ... It is necessary for a political scientist to work, or to be in the thick of things. I am far from this.
            2. user
              user 3 September 2013 18: 58
              0
              shpuntik
              Khloponin, in the Caucasus and Stavropol Territory, "keeps the situation under control"?

              He also keeps it, as in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, his local officials among themselves "Motorcyclist" called. He will come from Moscow for a while, will be popular on TV, ride a cool motorcycle in front of the cameras (biker damn it) and back to Moscow. For 8 years, no one has seen his wife (in the sense, not on TV). That was the kind of governor of the Krasnoyarsk Territory, although he sailed to Nice on his yacht, probably saved budget money
      2. shpuntik
        shpuntik 2 September 2013 11: 38
        +3
        Marshal
        avt (2) SU Today, 10: 16 ↑
        Yes, something did not grow together, even the dagov in Domodedovo with already finished black cash covered our hero I suddenly presented the GDP - where they say work.

        Threw you a minus hi , maybe you’ll open your eyes, but you’ll see that this is all a circus with your GDP. He was taught to deceive a polygraph, so he went to the actors, lying without blinking an eye.
        If he raised his salaries before the election, this does not mean that he is not a friend of thieves. Wake up.
        1. avt
          avt 2 September 2013 12: 12
          +2
          Quote: shpuntik
          maybe you’ll open your eyes, but you’ll see that this is all a circus with your GDP. He was taught to deceive a polygraph, so he went to the actors, lying without blinking an eye.

          But essentially, can you give something out? I don’t even discuss the fact that he shuffles the deck. I say that the local kvass patriotism is not worth a dime, all these songs are about
          Quote: shpuntik
          And these tame "Putin falcons" are earning money.

          and about the fact that the locals know the best, only there is no money, they are already pretty tired. Ishaev is the same tame Putin falcon, he would be different - he would sit with Khodorkovsky. And the incantations that he "cut the truth in the eyes of the GDP" well, complete nonsense - there is no one there who is pissing against the wind. , and even more so, it is impossible to wash the loot in Moscow without the local elite, and Ishaev is one of these local, who suddenly did not come to court, well, I don’t know for what reason, but he was suddenly asked to present a job under the allocated money, as before that Seryozha Shepelyava on the rule after the APEC was set, well, the Caucasians in the resorts of the Caucasus and partly beyond Sochi, perhaps they are getting close to Shuvalov and Dvorkovich, it was too often after the scattering they showed Shuvalov in close-up - a sure media sign, but, as already said, it will not fall out of the deck. Trutnev - I don't know how it will be in business, suddenly they saw the light and really will change something in the system that Ishaev and Jem built, when, for example, fishing quotas for caviar and crabs in Moscow were approved only after the gangway and somewhere near Khabarovsk, but that's what he and Kiriyenko love to swing swords in the oriental style, and Kiriyenko also collects them - I heard this on the tram laughing
          1. shpuntik
            shpuntik 2 September 2013 12: 39
            +1
            Marshal
            avt (2) SU Today, 12:12 ↑ New
            But essentially, can you give something out?

            Yes, actually nothing exact, did not work in the accounting chamber :-)
            Only indirect evidence. Recently, in the comments, I put up about the GDP of the bride, an interview with Deripaska. You can take a look if interested.
            Now Golikova will be put in charge of the Accounts Chamber, there will be "Mama Do not Cry". They never asked her for the tomographs, they were to blame locally, they were caught. fellow Divorce suckers Universe.
            I apologize for the minus, it seemed that you are from the "Nashi" movement, maddened for GDP. hi

            1. avt
              avt 2 September 2013 12: 59
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              Quote: shpuntik
              They didn’t ask her for tomographs, they were guilty on the ground, they got caught.

              On behalf of the president, in particular on tomographs, the Federal Target Program was supervised by DAM. This is about the issue of punishing the guilty and rewarding those who have distinguished themselves, or for turnover laughing .
              1. avt
                avt 2 September 2013 13: 17
                +1
                Quote: avt
                They didn’t ask her for tomographs, they were guilty on the ground, they got caught.

                I forgot to add - ,, pawns should happily die for the king ... "this is from the series where the song was about the fact that, if someone is somewhere where we sometimes ..." laughing
              2. shpuntik
                shpuntik 2 September 2013 14: 28
                +1
                avt (2) SU Today, 12: 59 ↑
                On behalf of the president, in particular on tomographs, the Federal Target Program was supervised by DAM

                One field of berries ...
    2. shpuntik
      shpuntik 2 September 2013 11: 20
      +2
      Oskar (1) SU Today, 09:31
      First, Ishaev's program for the development of the Far East was slaughtered. Now it's the turn of the author, who has repeatedly allowed himself to criticize Putin himself.

      I agree completely +. Therefore, they removed it. And these tame "Putin falcons" are earning money. First, they flushed water from the state district power station, and now they will supply building materials, and sit on cash flows.
      I think the castling was carried out not out of concern for the Far East, but to strengthen the corrupt "vertical".
      +
      Moreover, I allow myself the courage to declare that the descent of water from the Bureyskaya GRES was deliberate. Never before has water risen in history:
      For more than a century of observation, the maximum level of the Amur River - 6,42 meters - was recorded in 1897.
      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/hab/20130807/954746186.html#ixzz2diX6vQQV

      Now coming to 8 meters. Maybe, in addition to cutting the dough, they want to resettle the people? To clear the Far East?
      He will always be remembered as a governor, who managed to properly ensure life in the region in the 90s (especially against the backdrop of constantly shaken neighbors: Primorsky Krai and Amur Region) and saved not only KnAAPO. Many human thanks, dear Victor Ivanovich!

      Quite so, I lived in those parts, my relatives were there, Ishaev was respected, people felt his concern for the region.
      1. VasDA
        VasDA 2 September 2013 14: 32
        +3
        I do not want to give assessments and debate about who is better and who is worse ...
        But about the Zeya hydroelectric station and the Bureyskaya hydroelectric station ... Are you a power engineer? And I - yes ...
        If it weren’t for the hydroelectric power station, we would have drowned in July ... The inflow of water from these stations (total) when the discharges were opened was no more than 10-15% ... Amur also has Ussuri and Sungari as tributaries. The latter flows through the territory of China, and this year they also drowned at the top of their head ... And also, as much as they could, they kept water with the help of their hydroelectric power stations. The main body of water in the Amur this year is incessant rains for two months. During this time, the ANNUAL rainfall has spilled onto our heads ...
        1. shpuntik
          shpuntik 2 September 2013 18: 27
          +1
          VasDA SU Today, 14:32 PM ↑ New
          I do not want to give assessments and debate about who is better and who is worse ...
          But about the Zeya hydroelectric station and the Bureyskaya hydroelectric station ... Are you a power engineer? And I - yes ...

          No, no hydropower, exploitation of an SEU. Let's think logically, together: 1) Stations were built as a damper of the Amur level. It is known that Cupid is bottled every year, at the same time.
          2) Max. level was:
          in Over a century-long history of observations, the maximum level of the Amur River - 6,42 meters - was recorded in 1897
          RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/hab/20130807/954746186.html#ixzz2dkCoBUM6

          Now 8 meters.
          3) That is, if the hydropower stations did not hold back the water from the rains, would it be now not 8, but 9 meters? So it turns out? But in my opinion, on the contrary, they dawned on the moment, did not drain the water on time, and then added another 6,42 meters to 1,2, this is your 15%. I don’t know how tied up China is here, but 75% of the volume of water in the upper reaches of us.
          4) The Sungari and Ussuri are much lower upstream than Blagoveshchensk. If they let the water down there, then they would first flood Khabarovsk and Komsomolsk.
          Here is a quote for hydropower, a long-known fact:
          The most important feature of the Amur hydrological regime is significant fluctuations in water level, caused almost exclusively by summer-autumn monsoon rains, which make up 75% of the annual runoff.
          The average monthly runoff of the Amur River (m³ / s), measured at the hydrometric station in Komsomolsk-on-Amur.
          Data calculated for the period from 1933 to 1990
  6. morpogr
    morpogr 2 September 2013 09: 40
    +3
    If they made the opportunity to travel and fly to the Far East accessible, there would already be a huge step towards improving the development of the Far East. If the place is of extraordinary beauty, it’s easier and cheaper to fly to Africa (Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco) than to the Far East.
    1. shpuntik
      shpuntik 2 September 2013 19: 38
      0
      morpogr SU Today, 09:40
      If they made the opportunity to travel and fly to the Far East accessible, there would already be a huge step towards improving the development of the Far East. If the place is of extraordinary beauty, it’s easier and cheaper to fly to Africa (Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco) than to the Far East.

      good +. On the next branch, they remembered about the Tu-144. Bitterly. Somehow I came across a link why it was filled up, now I can't find it right away, but the meaning in short is: "someone", they were afraid that the Far East and the European part would contact. It's too fast - 4 hours of flight, the same business will start using it.
      1. avt
        avt 2 September 2013 20: 05
        0
        Quote: shpuntik
        ... On the next branch, they remembered about the Tu-144. Bitterly. Somehow I came across a link why it was filled up, now I can't find it right away, but the meaning in short is: "someone", they were afraid that the Far East and the European part would contact. It's too fast - 4 hours of flight, the same business will start using it.

        Of course, I myself love conspiratorial delights, but still one must be friends with common sense and specific technical realities, especially in technical matters. Tu 144 was removed due to very specific technical and economic problems associated with the heavy finishing of the car and the expensive, even for the USSR, operation of the liner. The Americans, having counted a pretty penny, in the sense of cents, were completely engaged in wide-body airplanes, leaving the questions of the prestige of passenger supersonic to the Anglo-Franks and quietly worked out the scientific part with us in Zhukovsky on our Tu 144. Well, maybe the negative opinion of Bugaev, then Aeroflot, played an important role in the fate of the car, but it’s not like Moscow’s next conspiracy against people living in the Far East by preventing an airplane, liberoids somehow solved it more easily by means of the price of an air ticket for any type of airplane.
        1. shpuntik
          shpuntik 3 September 2013 04: 24
          0
          avt (2) SU Yesterday, 20:05 ↑
          Of course, I myself love conspiratorial delights, but still one must be friends with common sense and specific technical realities, especially in technical matters.

          1) For technical reasons, the Tu-144 made passenger flights.
          2) It was not due to technical reasons that he fell in Le Bourget, but from the dangerous flight of the Mirage.
          3) The Americans tested it at home and bought it, a private person-incognito. Soon, Boeing will do something similar, I’m sure.
          4) It's all about the ticket price, and if it was not profitable, the Concorde would not have made more than three flights. This is what you need for business. On this thread about MAKS, I gave links to the Tu-144 and a book about Boeing and Airbus. It looks like the Concorde has been hit with a termite mine. Competition sir.
          5) With modern materials, to bring to mind the Tu-144 is not difficult, it would be a desire.
  7. DDA
    DDA 2 September 2013 10: 09
    +1
    The cornerstone of the development of the Far East is high-tech production, in particular ship repair, so in my city two ship-building vessels were included in the international shipping cadastre - now he is dead, the second is dying without prospects. But these are jobs and city-forming enterprises, but this is not the goal of United Russia, their goal is to increase the transshipment of raw materials through the ports of the Far East, everything else is secondary. Therefore, due to a change in places of the slogans, the sum does not change.
    1. avt
      avt 2 September 2013 10: 37
      0
      Quote: DDA
      The cornerstone of the development of the Far East is high-tech production, in particular ship repair, so in my city two ship-building vessels were included in the international shipping cadastre - now he is dead, the second is dying without prospects. But these are jobs and city-forming enterprises,

      The cornerstone is all the same roads and reasonable tariffs for movement on transport, yes, I forgot, also cheap energy. Only after solving this problem can we talk about production, build a super modern plant and it will bend in the absence of a transport highway and wild "market" tariffs for energy and transportation.
      Quote: DDA
      but this is not the goal of United Russia; their goal is to increase the transshipment of raw materials through the ports of the Far East, everything else is secondary.

      If you remove edrosov, then others will do it and this is not some kind of trouble or evil rock, this is our great strategic advantage, the question is different - how do we manage it, what do we invest the funds in. While stupidly eating.
      1. DDA
        DDA 3 September 2013 06: 06
        0
        Communications (roads, railways, waterways) to the enterprises were brought up during the Soviet era and are still in a functional state, otherwise how would you like to transfer raw materials from the quay walls of these plants. As for the tariffs, they are just regulated by the state, go to the FTS website (Federal Tariff Service). Electricity is also mainly exported to the APR. If you think that the resource-based economy is our strategic reserve, then I'm just sad. For example, the PRC uses our "strategic reserve" to create the world's second-largest economy focused on the production of finished goods.
        1. avt
          avt 3 September 2013 08: 36
          0
          Quote: DDA
          If you think that the resource-based economy is our strategic reserve, then I'm just sad. For example, the PRC uses our "strategic reserve" to create the world's second-largest economy focused on the production of finished goods.

          Pancake ! Yes, read the whole opinion, and not just what you like! I said that our raw materials - OUR ADVANTAGE, and not a reserve. AND
          Quote: avt
          the question is different - how do we manage it, what do we invest the funds in

          What is not clear then!? And with regards to the roads - yes, they built a lot in the USSR, BUT now we need even more. It is clear that the tariffs for electric energy are regulated by the Federal Tariff Service, but again, you don’t have to dissemble and dump everything on Moscow, quite a while before Chubais in the energy sector they controlled the REC and and it’s not sour, under the guise of rising tariffs in general.
    2. Hoist
      Hoist 2 September 2013 10: 46
      +1
      Yes, in the same Khabarovsk how many factories were, and how many were left.
      Confectionery - closed (the building is given to small offices).
      The cold store is closed (I don’t know what is there now).
      The enamel plant next to our house is closed (now there is a parking lot and a sports complex)
      Garment factory - shopping center "Singapore".
      Heating equipment factory - huge territories, something else is produced on trifles, most warehouses and small firms, many are simply destroyed.
      The aluminum construction plant is also producing something else, but the central building is now a Vietnamese hostel.
      Dalenergomash - a couple of workshops remained, everything else was leased.
      Ship repair - also a couple of shops remained, although they were going to revive something.

      It is only in one city, about the villages I generally am silent. Take the same village of Khingansk in the EAO. It had a tin ore mining enterprise. 2 mines several kilometers deep. I have 2 friends from that village, one worked at the enterprise itself. Says in the early 2000s they were bought by Novosibirsk. Then one fine day all the workers according to the documents ended up in one office, and all the equipment in another.

      What kind of development of the Far East can be discussed when it is more profitable to lease everything here, and leave the workers to extract and sell resources. Going along the highway - solid fields occupied by the Chinese. From the same Bureyskaya and Zeyskaya hydroelectric power stations, even people who live near them do not see their electricity. Everything goes to China at their domestic prices.

      PS. I’m not saying that the Chinese are bad, it’s just that a holy place is never empty.
  8. Michael_59
    Michael_59 2 September 2013 10: 42
    +1
    "Our" Yuri Petrovich - started with illegal parking lots, traded canned meat, video equipment. His trading house "EKS", as a large commercial enterprise, was known for the fact that for a long time he owned a very expensive store "XNUMX meters" on the central street of Perm, carried imported junk ...

    Yes, read it - this is from the Antichirkunov blog ... (2011)

    Participation in business: In 1988, together with partners, created a cooperative "Contact", which was engaged in the development and production of sports simulators. Since 1990 - General Director of the company “EX Limited” (Oleg Chirkunov was the Deputy General Director), which was involved in the delivery of products to Perm from abroad (in particular, Nestle chocolates). As the magazine "Profile" wrote, a considerable role in Trutnev’s success was played by his friendly relations with the local police authorities, primarily with the then deputy chief of the Internal Affairs Directorate of the Perm Region and the future presidential plenipotentiary in the Urals Federal District, Peter Latyshev.
    He was a member of the Board of Directors of Zarya Urala Bank. It was with this bank that the company of Trutnev “EX Limited” could not pay for the loan.
    In 1996, on the basis of "EX Limited" was established JSC "E.K.S. International ”, which united the enterprises of the“ EX ”group, whose president was Yuri Trutnev.
    December 8, 1996 Trutnev won the election of Perm Mayor. The election team was formed from the closest associates of the company "EX Limited". The Moscow and Perm mass media called Trutnev’s election campaign aggressive, accused his team of violations, in particular the force pressure of the EX Limited employees on supporters of Trutnev’s main opponent, the current mayor of the city of Vladimir Phil.
    In October 2000, Trutnev put forward his candidacy for the election of the governor of the Perm Region, which he won in December. According to the media, the support was provided by the largest businessmen in the region: the head of the Uralkali company Dmitry Rybolovlev and the general director of the LUKoil-Perm company Andrey Kuzyaev, who was also a member of the initiative group for nominating the Perm Mayor in the gubernatorial elections.
    In 2004, according to the official income statement, Trutnev’s average monthly income was $ 317. Vedomosti, which published these data, citing a representative of the Ministry of Natural Resources, indicated that the minister annually receives money for shares of the Ex group of companies. He sold them in installments after he became a civil servant. In 198, Trutnev received $ 2004 million for Exa securities, which amounted to 3,5 percent of his annual income. In 92, the minister received the highest income among other members of the government, earning 2005 million 211 thousand 403 rubles a year. In 810, personal maintenance decreased by a third - to 2006 million 133 thousand rubles. In 605, Trutnev received almost 2008, in 370 - 2009 million rubles.

    Currently, there are several enterprises belonging to the EX Group: E.K.S. International ”, LLC“ Managing company “EX”, LLC “Management of real estate“ EX ”, etc.

    According to the Unified State Register of Legal Entities for September 2010, E.K.S. International ”is owned by Svetlana Gennadyevna Kuzmich, Oleg Anatolyevich Chirkunov (Governor of the Perm Territory), as well as the Swiss company Norpexal Holding SA (76,42%). "THE EX. International ”is the founder of more than 50 Perm companies (mainly engaged in trading activities).
  9. Michael_59
    Michael_59 2 September 2013 10: 44
    +1
    Impact on business: In December 2008, Minister of Natural Resources Yuri Trutnev stood up for Uralkali, owned by his longtime friend Dmitry Rybolovlev. The company could be found guilty of an accident at one of its mines in Berezniki in 2006. The accident led to a collapse of the ground. At the end of that year, a special commission from Rostekhnadzor decided that the man-made accident occurred for reasons beyond the control of Uralkali. However, in October 2008, at a meeting with Deputy Prime Minister Igor Sechin, it was decided to create a new commission and resume the investigation. In 2009, the government determined the final amount that Uralkali would have to pay in compensation for the accident in Berezniki. In total, the company must transfer 7,8 billion rubles, of which 5 billion Uralkali will transfer for the construction of a bypass railway around all sections of the Verkhnekamsk potash deposit - with a total length of 53 km.

    Former (second) wife, Marina Lvovna Trutneva, master of sports in rhythmic gymnastics, chairman of the Perm Gymnastics Federation. He owns a clothing store in Perm, a member of the Anastasia charity as of 2004.

    Son from his second marriage Dmitry Yuryevich Trutnev, businessman. In 2003-05. - a merchant, in 2006-07. - Assistant to the General Director of NP "Institute for Corporate Development". Since 2007 - Financial Advisor at the Central Cooperative Bank (Bulgaria). He is a member of the Board of Directors of OJSC Insurance Company Itil (Kazan), AKB TatInvestBank (Kazan), both of which are owned by several Bulgarian citizens.

    In 2006, the son of the Minister of Natural Resources of the Russian Federation, Yuri Trutnev, 23-year-old Dmitry Trutnev, got a plot of land on the picturesque banks of the Kama River, in close proximity to the famous “holy spring” in Perm, consecrated and revered in honor of the icon of the Mother of God “Life-giving Source ”(Stary Vodniki microdistrict, Tantsorova street, 10). By resolution of the head of the city administration of Perm, Arkady Kats No. 922 of June 7, 2006, Dmitry Trutnev was allowed to build a 3-storey building with utility rooms, a closed parking lot and its own boiler room. However, it later became clear that the building project did not pass the state environmental review.

    After a high-profile public scandal, Dmitry Trutnev told the media that he had disposed of the site and was no longer related to this asset. According to an extract from the Unified State Register of Rights to Real Estate and Transactions therewith on July 16, 2007, a copyright holder with the type of property right to the property on ul. Dancerova, 10 is a citizen of Alexander-Bismann Vladimirovich Ross-Johnson. He was also listed as a representative of the Parma-Engineering company indicated by the customer of the works during the construction, which was led by Dmitry Trutnev.

    Wife, Natalya Sergeevna Petrova. In November 2006, Perm media actively covered the construction of a residential building in the coastal protective strip of the Kama reservoir on the territory of the Dobryansky district. It was indicated that the site was originally drawn up for the wife of Minister of Natural Resources Yuri Trutnev Natalya Petrova, and the Minister’s son Dmitry Trutnev periodically visits and monitors the construction site. The media noted that the distance from the water edge to the house under construction of Petrova Natalya Sergeevna is about 30 meters, which violates current legislation. Later, the site was reissued to another individual.
  10. Michael_59
    Michael_59 2 September 2013 10: 52
    +3
    Believe it or not, check it.
    I understand that I’m disappointing a little fans of GDP - I’m upset myself (((

    In consolation - a link to the video ... (if you can, but it didn’t work out)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kQZBfS_nXWs
    1. MAG
      MAG 2 September 2013 13: 29
      +2
      They wrote everything correctly, but I did not see you about his sports fighters reeters. The articles are old, but you can find rumors that the bandits are behind Drutny for a reason, and the war of crime under him ended (shooting thieves) and the bandits became "respected businessmen" who now "rule" here, and one of them is even a deputy (Plotnikov). This is how you got the commander of the "Komsomolets" from the Far East.
  11. AK-47
    AK-47 2 September 2013 10: 55
    0
    ... Yuri Trutnev. At the same time, the president said that the resignation of Viktor Ishaev from this post should not be associated with ...

    Judging by the second photograph (judoka), the author also does not believe in this.
  12. Nick_1972
    Nick_1972 2 September 2013 11: 33
    +1
    Correctly wrote in his comment DDA: the sum will not change from the change of the places of the terms. Ishaev, Trutnev, and even Chuck Norris ... Until there are real actions to develop the Far East, and not declarations of any concepts, "road maps", etc. so people will leave, production will fall, etc. And these questions are not at the level of a plenipotentiary or even a minister.
    1. svp67
      svp67 2 September 2013 11: 34
      0
      Quote: Nick_1972
      Correctly wrote in his comment to the DDA: the amount will not change from a change of position.
      Why not? The replacement of the "term" of "Serdyukov" changed the same thing ...
      1. Nick_1972
        Nick_1972 2 September 2013 12: 45
        +5
        Of course! The caps were completely different.
        1. DDA
          DDA 3 September 2013 06: 13
          0
          And again the shoulder straps were moved, and this, by the way, is again the descent of money into the toilet
    2. DDA
      DDA 3 September 2013 06: 10
      0
      All right, there should be a targeted (specific) development policy of the Far East at the level of government. And first of all, it should reflect the development of finished goods production.
  13. riding
    riding 2 September 2013 11: 34
    0
    It seems that one unclean person is replaced by another. And the Far East needs real help.
  14. nazgul-ishe
    nazgul-ishe 2 September 2013 11: 42
    0
    "How YOU guys don't sit down ..."
  15. lazy
    lazy 2 September 2013 12: 00
    +4
    I know one thing about Ishaev, if the governor’s national elections were now in the Khabarovsk Territory, he would definitely have won, and they would have given Sprat ass
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 2 September 2013 13: 49
      +1
      Quite right, Ishaev has done a lot for the Khabarovsk Territory and most support it. Cross Moscow began to talk a lot, so they removed it. Now Moscow is doing business on our flood.
  16. Nayhas
    Nayhas 2 September 2013 13: 14
    +3
    And I would not trust officials with such surnames as Trutnev, Lazyev, Bezdelkin, Chinushin, Pililshchikov, Vyatkin ... But officials with surnames Pravdin, Zanarodin, Zapensionerkin, Khoroshin, Patriotin, Negei, Vovremyazarplatin deserve the highest posts!
  17. sashka
    sashka 2 September 2013 13: 44
    0
    Is something changed? Don't tell the truth ..
  18. Fitter65
    Fitter65 2 September 2013 13: 47
    0
    Quote: Izar
    Though not sent Chubais, and thanks for that.

    This is really the only good news. Of course, Viktor Ivanovich also had flaws, but when he was the governor of the Khabarovsk Territory, everyone who lived around us was envious. He talked with people, worked for a long time in the North and in Primorye, so I know by hearsay how the people spoke about Ishaev.
    1. Far East
      Far East 2 September 2013 14: 01
      0
      Quote: Fitter65
      , therefore, I know by hearsay how the people spoke about Ishaev.

      you minus for the entire DV do not say! Primorye has its own kitchen! hi
  19. Fitter65
    Fitter65 2 September 2013 15: 05
    +2
    Quote: Far East
    you minus for the entire DV do not say! Primorye has its own kitchen

    Put your minus in yourself ... Ear. I have these pluses and minuses like Obama's chipmunk, so that in Primorye its own kitchen is for sure, especially when it wasn’t clear who the elected governor was, who elected himself, who appointed himself. And compared with the steadily climbing up Khabarovsk Territory, it was clearly noticeable. When Ishaev became a plenipotentiary in the Far Eastern Federal District, how many Primorsky rulers did he joke until they began to work?
    By the way, I’m not talking for the whole Far East, but only for those whom I had to face in life ...
    1. Far East
      Far East 3 September 2013 10: 41
      0
      Quote: Fitter65
      By the way, I’m not talking for the whole Far East, but only for those whom I had to face in life ...

      respected! not HAMI! not mature yet! and speed up yours by diminishing. face foreheads! at normal COMMUNICATE! that you do not know DO NOT CITIES! you live in the Far East and you will see everything yourself, find out who is who! and minus thrust yourself to know where!
  20. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 2 September 2013 16: 11
    +1
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  21. Tartary
    Tartary 2 September 2013 17: 11
    +1
    And I will say this: - It is definitely difficult or bad to say about Ishaev ...

    There is an opinion that he pulled quite a few times straight into the impudent one, but on the surface of the turbidity a lot of PR and self-promotion are possible ... Who knows exactly ??
    For example, what happened to Lopatyuk? After all, they were friends in the gums ... Looks like the box office was also no common?
    For example, his kooky with a barrel at Pionerskaya, when a friend of a guy who overtook his motorcade in violation of traffic rules threatened him with a combat PM, although the cops from his guard were nearby ... Ponty? Or delusions of grandeur and impunity?
    For example, fiddling with medical equipment ... Which has already been paid for and "stimulated" in the right authorities, and at the same time passed through a tender, according to "rumors" I have acquired for two prices, sending merchants somewhere far away ...
    The vodka market in the early 90's came up with Ishayev personally imposing excises on the Far East (well or not?), Then they introduced excises in the Am.region, and only then in the Russian Federation ...

    But you never know what the people (except grandmothers) "whisper" ...

    There are questions, but there is no desire to find fault without proof, humanly ...

    Although ... What proofs are needed when every second, if not the first citizen, leading an active lifestyle in the 90s, is smeared in one or another essentially (!) Illegal, if not criminal, then economic fraud ... then, and then, and another - let's face it, and not dear officials in their mugs and pockets? Themselves such ... so "do not blame the mirror, since the mug itself is crooked" ...
  22. Michael_59
    Michael_59 2 September 2013 17: 43
    0
    Quote: MAG
    just did not see you about his sports fighters retethers.



    A fair remark, but I just casually mentioned the parking lots, and at that time elements of this particular weight went up in this field.
  23. Antokha
    Antokha 2 September 2013 20: 25
    +1
    Quote: Michael_59
    for a long time he owned a very expensive store "XNUMX meters" on the central street of Perm

    Trutnev, "real kid" !!! laughing
  24. Combitor
    Combitor 3 September 2013 02: 00
    +2
    Putin again took up playing staff poker. Just to the point - the cards are all marked. And no matter how you scatter them - the result is the same. Moreover, the banker played too much. It's time to change it. Lost in earnest. What are the "correct" gamblers doing with the cheaters?
  25. Watchman
    Watchman 4 September 2013 01: 39
    0
    Everyone who has a car is not Lada-expel from the government.