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Comrade Onishchenko and Belarusian Microbes

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26 August reports appeared in the Belarusian, Russian and Western media about the arrest and detention of Vladislav Baumgertner, CEO of Uralkali. Concurrently, Mr. Baumgertner is also the Chairman of the Supervisory Board of the Belarusian Potash Company. The Investigation Committee of Belarus apparently believes that this man is almost the enemy of the whole world and the famous international potash raider: the management of Uralkali supposedly developed hostile plans against Israeli, German and Canadian potash producers, not to mention Belarus. In response to the arrest of Mr. Baumgertner, Kremlin geopolitical ideologues made two predictable moves at once. The media has already passed information about the unpleasant discoveries of the chief physician of the Russian Federation Onishchenko in Belarusian products, as well as that the brotherly oil pipeline "Druzhba" suddenly worn out and seven hundred kilometers of pipes had to be replaced on it. And it is completely incomprehensible when the repair will end.


Comrade Onishchenko and Belarusian Microbes


The CEO of Uralkali was detained after a meeting with the Belarusian Prime Minister Mikhail Myasnikovich, to which he arrived at the invitation of the prime minister. That is, in fact, he was lured into the republic - and taken into custody.

As Tatyana Melnichuk writes (“Russian service“ BBC ”, Minsk), the Investigation Committee of Belarus reported on August 26 about the arrest and detention of Vladislav Baumgertner. He is accused of abuse of official authority for personal gain, causing substantial harm to the state and public interests of Belarus. Criminal cases have been initiated against a number of BPC employees because of the particularly large-scale damage caused to Belaruskali and the Belarusian Potash Company. The names of Oleg Petrov, member of the supervisory board of the BPC, first deputy general director Konstantin Solodovnikov, deputy general director for finance Igor Evstratov, and head of the freight department Dmitry Samoilov are called. These suspects are wanted by Interpol.

“Regarding involvement in illegal activities, a legal assessment is made of the actions of other persons, including one of the shareholders of Uralkali, Suleiman Kerimov,” the head of the Information and Public Relations Department of the Investigative Committee said an hour after the reports of Baumgertner’s arrest. Pavel Traulko.

The IC of Belarus has data “on the hostile plans of the management of Uralkali in relation to Israeli, German and Canadian potash producers,” said Traulco. And he added: “Moreover, the preliminary assessment of these materials shows that this is not about a normal competitive struggle being conducted within the law, but about illegal plans, which are drawn by a large-scale aferism and international corporate raiding for a mile”.

“Today, even to a non-specialist, it is obvious that the actions of Uralkali were an earthquake for the global potash market. The Investigation Committee, of course, is primarily concerned with crimes against our business entities and actions that caused damage to the Belarusian people, ”said the representative of the committee.

The size of the theft and damage inflicted on Belarus by the investigators estimated at 100 millions of dollars.

Traulco also called China among those against whom the management of Uralkali was: “In the course of the investigation, many other facts came to the disposal of Belarusian law enforcement agencies about, to put it mildly, doubtful actions of the accused top managers, not only against Belarusians, but and against Russian banks, Chinese financial institutions and many other foreign partners. ”

28 August, as reported by the agency FinmarketPavel Traulko told Interfax that Vladislav Baumgertner is accused and is in custody. Baumgertner charged under h. 3 Art. 424 "Abuse of power and official authority" of the Criminal Code of Belarus.

Legal experts explained to the agency that the term of detention in accordance with Belarusian legislation may last up to 2 months, “but this does not mean that the measure of restraint cannot be changed during these two months”. The same lawyers explained that “according to the decision of the investigator who is investigating the criminal case, a decision may be taken to extend the 2-month detention period”. “Such decisions are often made, especially in complex, multi-episode cases due to new circumstances of the case,” they added.

According to the latest information, V. Baumgertner is in the SIZO of the Belarusian KGB.

Ksenia Timakova and Janis Madni in a material published RIA News", set out the essence of the conflict between the three existing legal entities: Uralkali, Belaruskali and the general trading structure - BPC.

The fact is that a month ago Uralkali announced its intention to withdraw from a joint commercial enterprise. This has put the stability of the export of the Belarusian company at risk. Belaruskali then stated that the actions of colleagues required a legal assessment.

Uralkali began to cooperate with Belaruskali in 2005, when the joint company BPC was established, which received the right to exclusively supply the products of both companies to foreign markets. By combining a significant part of the global supply (more than 30%, and later about 43%), the Russian and Belarusian manufacturers gained an advantage when negotiating with customers.

At the end of July 2013, Uralkali announced the termination of cooperation with Belaruskali. The main reason was the Belarusian trade in fertilizer producers not through BPC. According to Uralkali, the principle of trade through a single network was violated by the signing by the President of Belarus of the 22 decree of December 2012 on the abolition of the exclusive right of BPC to export Belarusian potassium. The decree was followed by the shipment of Belaruskali outside a joint trading company.

There is another version of the conflict.

Alexey Topalov and Denis Lavnikevich (Gazeta.rucite the words of Traulco, who noted that the scenario of breaking up relations between Uralkali and BPC was developed by the defendants in the case back in 2011: they allegedly predicted that as a result of their actions, the global potash market would collapse and prepare conditions for obtaining maximum profit. Traulko said: "Regarding the involvement in illegal activities, a legal assessment is given of the actions of other persons, including one of the shareholders of Uralkali, Suleiman Kerimov."

Tatyana Melnichuk (“Russian service“ BBC ”) indicates that the tension between the parties arose after the sale of a controlling stake in Uralkali to the Russian oligarch Suleiman Kerimov and the acquisition by Uralkali of the Russian Silvinit. Alexander Lukashenko, in the summer of 2012, mentioned the possible break in relations with Uralkali, and by the end of 2012, he issued the above-mentioned decree.

Karimov came to Lukashenko, and after the meeting, two statements were made about the intentions to continue cooperation in the framework of the BPC. However, several days after the May meeting of Lukashenko and Kerimov, Belaruskali CEO Valery Kiriyenko told BelTA that Uralkali sells about 20% fertilizer through BPC, and 80% sells through its trader Uralkali Trading SA. V. Kiriyenko stated: “Although the rationale for the creation of the BPC was clearly recorded that all the flows of Uralkali and Belaruskali should be sold through our common trader’s distribution network, unfortunately, the Russian side has not fulfilled its obligations.”

To this we must add that after the breakup of relations between Uralkali and Belaruskali, the papers of Uralkali, as well as competing global manufacturers, fell by an average of one-fifth. Hence, Belarus’s vision of the Russian market “raiding”.

It is interesting that, according to the Belarusian investigation, the leaders of Uralkali sold some of their shares in advance at a high price, and now they are buying up the depreciating shares in order to establish control over the fertilizer market. Belarusian Investigative Committee claims: “A special fund, created in Switzerland and controlled by Suleiman Kerimov, has already begun buying Uralkali’s pretty cheap shares.

And something else. Vladimir Azin (Utro.ru) reminds that Alexander Lukashenko spoke publicly about the readiness to sell Belaruskali, but he asked for an exorbitant price for it - 30 billion dollars, although Uralkali itself was twice as cheap. At the same time, the head of the republic accused the shareholders of a Russian company in an attempt to bribe. Last fall, Lukashenka said: “I was offered to sell Belaruskali for 15 billions: 10 billions to the treasury, and 5 billions to me, where can I say.”

The accusations addressed to the general director of Uralkali by the chairman of the board of directors of this company, Alexander Voloshin, contradicted common sense. According to him, Baumgertner in the Belarusian Potash Company did not have any official powers that could be abused. The supervisory board of the Belarusian Potash Company, headed by Baumgertner, is a supervisory body that meets several times a year.

“The chairman of the supervisory board has absolutely no official authority that he could abuse. The real head of the company is the general director, who has always been nominated by the Belarusian side. A few weeks ago, the Director General of BPC was appointed to one of the top positions in Belarus, namely, to the position of deputy head of the presidential administration. This, I think, means that the performance of this company and the state of affairs in it are highly appreciated by the top management of Belarus. In this regard, accusations of misconduct against Baumgertner look just ridiculous, "- quotes Alexander Voloshin "Vesti" with reference to ITAR-TASS.

As noted by Ilya Izotov ("Russian newspaper"), following the board of directors of Uralkali, the governor of the Perm region, Viktor Basargin, demanded the early release of Baumgertner. The head of the region asked for additional help from the government. In particular, Basargin sent a telegram to Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergey Lavrov. According to Basargin, the arrest of the general director of Uralkali can destabilize the operation of the enterprise, the state of which largely determines the welfare of the residents of Solikamsk and Berezniki, where nearly a quarter of a million people live.

Earlier, First Deputy Prime Minister of Russia Igor Shuvalov said that the arrest of Baumgertner "does not fit into any framework." The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs called the businessman’s detention unacceptable.

Since Baumgertner is not being released, heavy artillery entered into action. Two guns thundered at once: oil and sanitary. Analysts are already developing the topic: they are talking about the freezing of the Belarusian Rosatom project and the cancellation of the next tranche of loans through the EurAsEC. The last two points are unlikely due to the fact that without Belarus, the Customs Union turns into a fiction, but the first two are today's reality.

On the RBC 28 August reported that Transneft decided to cut oil supplies to Belarus due to repairs on the Druzhba pipeline. In September, deliveries will be reduced by 400 thousand tons. Moreover, the timing of the reduction of deliveries has not been finally determined. About this "RBC" said the vice-president of "Transneft" Mikhail Barkov.

Not the fact that the repair will end in September, said Barkov. "The pipe is very worn out, the timing of its repair will depend on the technologies used," he said.

Found and intermediate guilty: Ukrainians put pipes of poor quality.

As transmits ITAR-TASSThe correspondent of which also spoke with Barkov, the vice-president of the transport company, said: repair work is associated with a significant deterioration of the main oil pipeline due to the poor quality of the Khartsyzsk Pipe Works (Ukraine) pipes. Part of the pipeline consists of these pipes.

“We are planning a fragmentary repair in areas where the state is critical, and there are a lot of such sites due to the poor quality of the pipe,” the vice president explained.

Mikhail Barkov said that the reduction will affect two plants: the Mozyr Oil Refinery and Naftan (Novopolotsk). Supplies will be reduced by 200 thousand tons each.

The sudden wear of the pipes was accompanied by actions from the flanks - the office of Comrade Onishchenko.

Vigilant "Rospotrebnadzor" found the hordes of microbes in the Belarusian products, especially in the dairy.

Not sometime, namely August 28 on the site "Rospotrebnadzor" The document entitled “On food products of the Republic of Belarus” was published. Its text is able to frighten even the most fearless:

"... Only in the Moscow region for the last time from 240 samples of food products of the Republic of Belarus, studied in the laboratories of Rospotrebnadzor, 72 sample (30%) did not meet the requirements for quality and safety indicators.

Dairy products made in the Republic of Belarus are especially worrisome. So, from 83 samples of the studied sweet cream unsalted classic oil and low fat 39 samples did not meet the requirements for fat composition, 9 samples of drinking milk 2 did not meet the requirements for microbiological indicators, 15 samples of dry milk 9 did not meet the requirements for microbiological and sanitary -chemical indicators, including the content of antibiotics.

These facts indicate a weakening of control in the Republic of Belarus over the quality and safety of food products ... ”


The actions of Rospotrebnadzor and Transneft, as noted by many analysts, signify the start of a trade war between Russia and Belarus. But, as Sergei Serebrov points out (Utro.ru), confrontation with Lukashenka Putin is now extremely unprofitable. The Russian president adheres to the idea of ​​restoring some kind of USSR, which explains his efforts to create the Customs Union and EurAsEC. On this, it seems, and builds the calculation of Lukashenko. Putin was in a dilemma: he was not ready to “accept the loss of the image of the collector of the Soviet lands” and at the same time could not remain indifferent to the fate of the “hostage”: it would strike at his political reputation. The most likely outcome of the conflict could be another concession from Moscow to the Belarusian authorities.

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  1. Tatarus
    Tatarus 30 August 2013 08: 55 New
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    OFFICIAL officials around the world. Verily. Who lives in RUSSIA does not laugh at the CIRCUS.
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    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 August 2013 11: 36 New
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      No against Onishchenko, even the devil himself is powerless laughing
      1. patline
        patline 30 August 2013 13: 54 New
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        These Moscow liberoid oligarchs poison and poison Old Man. Poison with the help of the pipeline, with the help of Onishchenko. They do not care about the relations of peoples, which they can spoil for the sake of their damn assets.
        My opinion is that if the huckster is guilty, let him sit. This should determine a fair trial. And there is nothing to apply double standards like Euromerikosy. Guilty - answer according to the law.
        In turn, as a sign of solidarity with Belarus, I will specifically search for Belarusian products in stores and buy them in particular in solidarity.
        1. liberty
          liberty 30 August 2013 18: 43 New
          -1
          As a sign of solidarity, can you start spelling the name of this country correctly?
          1. Mature naturalist
            Mature naturalist 30 August 2013 22: 32 New
            +5
            Quote: liberty
            As a sign of solidarity, can you start spelling the name of this country correctly?

            In Russian, the country is called Belarus, in Belarusian - Belarus.
            I remember in the 90s Tallinn Street was renamed Tallinn Street, but then it was removed.
            And we don’t call London Landon, and the other, and the other and the other ...
            1. liberty
              liberty 31 August 2013 01: 08 New
              +3
              White Russia, not White Russia. Logically in my opinion)
              And in your case, not in Russian, but in Soviet. There used to be such a country, but now there isn’t. We also have a Russian-speaking state, and the name "Belarus" itself is also in Russian.
              On December 14, 2001, by decree of the Gosstandart of Russia No. 529-st, a new OKSM was put into effect, in accordance with which the full name of the Belarusian state is the Republic of Belarus, abbreviated as Belarus.(this is from wikipedia)
              Despite this, to this day in various news they continue to use the word that you think is correct (although this is certainly not the case: h) even after the recommendation by the Russian media in 2009 to use the names "Republic of Belarus" and "Belarus", and not Belarus .
              Here's another read for reference - everything is well-reasoned and written on the shelves:
              http://news.tut.by/society/84891.html
              http://gogo.by/news/184/
              1. vladkavkaz
                vladkavkaz 31 August 2013 12: 26 New
                +1
                Ну и что?
                For example, the frantic Limitrophs tried to tell that Tallinn should be written as TALLINN, well, let them write as horrible, but Belarus sounds Russian, perhaps Belarus, from this damage there is no one but not too smart people.
                1. liberty
                  liberty 31 August 2013 21: 03 New
                  -2
                  Not too smart people keep making mistakes.
                  1. Current 72
                    Current 72 1 September 2013 02: 04 New
                    0
                    And who is immune from mistakes, please tell me.
                    1. liberty
                      liberty 1 September 2013 14: 27 New
                      -1
                      This is one mistake that has been repeated many, many times, unfortunately.
                  2. vladkavkaz
                    vladkavkaz 1 September 2013 20: 33 New
                    -1
                    So you're not too smart?
                    Learn the rules of the language in which balabonite.
                    1. liberty
                      liberty 4 September 2013 08: 18 New
                      -2
                      Next time, study the material before you say anything and get into disputes about this.
              2. Big giraffe
                Big giraffe 1 September 2013 20: 29 New
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                Let me quote: “Oh, for a long time and it seems that holivars are endlessly talking about the name of the country I live in (I mean Belarus, if that :)). And if the use of the name“ Belarus ”in private remarks doesn’t ( at least - I have) a violent reaction of indignation, the word “Belarus” in company names and in articles on media sites is, to put it mildly, catchy (yes, this is VERY to say the least).

                Some time ago, I turned to Yandex, my reverently beloved company, with a request to send them to the Russian Language Institute. V.V. Vinogradov of the Russian Academy of Sciences request: how is the name of our country spelled according to the rules of the Russian language?

                Yesterday, charming Anna Fedorova (the person who was the first Yandex representative in Belarus) and wonderful Alexander Laryanovsky sent me a scan of a letter that was sent by the Institute in response to a request.

                So, a quote from a letter:

                Both names - Belarus and Belarus - have the right to exist and use in modern Russian literary language. However, these items have different functional status:

                Belarus, along with the name of the state, the Republic of Belarus, is the official name of the state recorded in diplomatic documents in Russian. Therefore, in all official situations and official texts, the name Belarus (or the Republic of Belarus) can be used. This applies to such functional areas of the use of the Russian language as lawmaking, ... public speaking in parliament and other official institutions, science, education, the media, etc.
                Belarus is an unofficial name. It is used mainly in the everyday sphere of communication ... utterly natural statements like: Tomorrow I’m going to my brother in Belarus ... "
                1. vladkavkaz
                  vladkavkaz 1 September 2013 20: 35 New
                  -1
                  Thank you for the reasoned confirmation of my post and the shame of a liberal from the orange oranges of Belarus, a certain-liberty BY, he still has to ask a question about flags the coat of arms of Belarus, so he will cry for Pogon.
                  1. liberty
                    liberty 4 September 2013 23: 42 New
                    -2
                    You are stupid ... and very ... I said that I am orange? Did I tell you something about the “chase”? For the fact that I tried to postpone something in your head and correct you - I got a bunch of shit on myself. Call what you want my country. You just show her, and the people who live in her, your disrespect.
                  2. liberty
                    liberty 4 September 2013 23: 46 New
                    -1
                    And this, by the way, is more likely a well-reasoned confirmation of my post, because you seem to think that this country is called “Belarus” not only in everyday life, but also in official form.
                    1. Vlad 1965
                      Vlad 1965 5 September 2013 10: 33 New
                      +1
                      liberty BY
                      "Both names - Belarus and Belarus - have the right to exist and use in the modern Russian literary language. However, these names have different functional status": - YOU are either stupid, or do not know the RUSSIAN language, that with the stubbornness of a representative of the family of canids, wallow, when near the GATE.
                      1. liberty
                        liberty 5 September 2013 16: 37 New
                        -1
                        Good) Then, by what rules of the Russian language do you continue to call my country in Soviet form?) We live NOW. Standards for country names have changed.
          2. Current 72
            Current 72 1 September 2013 02: 02 New
            +3
            And for example, I like Belarus more, listen to how it sounds!
            1. liberty
              liberty 1 September 2013 14: 28 New
              +1
              Do you think Kyrgyzstan sounds better too than Kyrgyzstan?)
          3. Uhe
            Uhe 1 September 2013 17: 46 New
            +3
            Habit, rules of the language ... Belarusians write “malako”, and we write “milk” :) I don’t think that there is anything offensive in the name “Belarus”, which was familiar from Soviet times:

            A white stork flies over a whitish
            Polesye flies
            Belarusian motive in the song of heather in the song rakit
            All the earth has accepted and care and affection and flame
            The sky flashed above the earth like a crimson banner
            My youth
            Byelorussia
            Partisan song pine yes fog
            Partisan song Scarlet Dawn
            My youth Belarus
            Our memory goes along a forest guerrilla trail
            Could not overgrow these paths in people's destiny
            The pain of those long gods lives in every heart to this day.
            In each of our family small children of Khatyn are with us
            My youth
            Byelorussia
            Partisan song pine yes fog
            Partisan song Scarlet Dawn
            My youth Belarus
            White stork flies over Polesie over quiet stubble.
          4. Eugene
            Eugene 1 September 2013 23: 16 New
            0
            Here, exams in Russian language? Calm down, wise guy.
        2. Uhe
          Uhe 1 September 2013 17: 44 New
          +3
          Personally, I’ve been trying to buy Belarusian goods for a long time, because they are much better.

          In general, the Old Man would be the best ruler of our state - a single state of the Eastern Slavs.
      2. Vovka levka
        Vovka levka 31 August 2013 10: 48 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Chief Medical Officer of the Russian Federation

        It seems that the chief physician of the Russian Federation Onishchenko, the most important kid in Russia. It is good that in due time I did not disperse the Duma. laughing
        Probably we should already hold elections for this position.
    4. CTEPX
      CTEPX 30 August 2013 17: 51 New
      +6
      Quote: Tatarus
      Who lives in RUSSIA does not laugh at the CIRCUS.

      Ay Way! Aw, well done!
      Kudrin removed the hands of Medvedev)).
      Removed Serdyukov hands Zubkov)).
      Now here’s Karimov (Dvorkovich-Medvedev), God forbid, take Lukashenka’s hands off)
      Good luck to him!
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik 30 August 2013 18: 16 New
        +9

        CTEPX RU Today, 17:51 ↑ New
        Ay Way! Aw, well done!

        "Way" from the word "worthwhile", not from the word "confuse"?
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 30 August 2013 18: 31 New
          +6
          Quote: shpuntik
          "Way" from the word "worthwhile", not from the word "confuse"?

          Wait and see)).
          But we still live)).
    5. dominatus
      dominatus 30 August 2013 23: 56 New
      +1
      But I wonder - Onishchenko himself understands. that everyone is already laughing at him. That he turned into a clown.
      1. Sergey_K
        Sergey_K 31 August 2013 00: 24 New
        +8
        He is not a clown, he is an instrument. He is an instrument of the Russian oligarchy in power. We have already witnessed more than once that business cannot be conducted with Russia and its current government. And then we sincerely wonder at the reluctance of some to join the TS. What kind of partnership within the framework of the CU can we talk about?
        1. Allegedly
          Allegedly 31 August 2013 00: 40 New
          +7
          Quote: Sergey_K
          we sincerely wonder at the reluctance of some to join the CU. What kind of partnership within the framework of the CU can we talk about?


          What equality can be between the object and the subject of world geopolitics? What did you smoke? What equal sign can there be between the USA and Honduras? It’s just another matter that the Russians behave like an elephant in a china shop, they’ve lost the habit of just how a superpower should behave, it means learning again.
          1. Sergey_K
            Sergey_K 31 August 2013 01: 12 New
            +2
            Do not confuse a superpower and a gang. There is a dispute between business entities, there are courts, etc. Here, disassembly using the roof, Belarusians have it weaker.
            They see it around and draw conclusions.

            It’s just another matter that the Russians behave like an elephant in a china shop, they’ve lost the habit of just how a superpower should behave, it means learning again.
            - I agree, only Russia so far does not reach the superpower very, very strongly.
            1. Allegedly
              Allegedly 31 August 2013 01: 39 New
              +2
              Hmmm, even the Chinese were afraid to accept Snowden, and the “Russian Vanya” accepted. And maybe this same "Russian Vanya" is not the same as before, but after all, the "p * ndosy" are not the same as before laughing ?
        2. Current 72
          Current 72 1 September 2013 02: 08 New
          +1
          Isn't a clown a tool to distract a person from current problems?
  2. svp67
    svp67 30 August 2013 08: 56 New
    +8
    The saying - "the pans are fighting, but the lackeys are cracking at the lackeys" was invented for a long time, but it does not lose its relevance ...
    1. Aryan
      Aryan 30 August 2013 09: 36 New
      +2
      I thought bibishi was already in history
      in any case, the Russian service bibisi
      they have poisons in Russia, of course, less than that of the radio
      but also enough
      1. tukzar
        tukzar 30 August 2013 09: 53 New
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        The media has already passed information about the unpleasant finds of the chief physician of the Russian Federation Onishchenko in Belarusian products,

        Give him free rein, he will find running and breeding cockroaches in liquid nitrogen !!! fool wassat

        And why is he not in the OZK and without a gas mask in all the photos ??? This "predictor" must be protected !!!! wassat laughing lol
        1. smile
          smile 30 August 2013 13: 22 New
          +2
          tukzar
          Yeah ... Onishchenko’s destructiveness can be equated to nuclear weapons ... with the only difference being that it can be used repeatedly and without restrictions ... where it appears, the radioactive background immediately rises, products deteriorate and chemistry creeps ... scary person...:)))
          1. atalef
            atalef 30 August 2013 16: 39 New
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            Quote: smile
            Yes ... Onishchenko’s destructiveness can be equated to nuclear weapons

            Agree that he does not act on his own initiative. All this looks stupid, clumsy, stupid. Everyone understands that there is no concern for the health of Russians here and nobody cares from above. Onishchenko, a chain dog - waiting for a team of fas and nothing more, deciding momentary political problems of GDP.
            You will see. UralKali, General Director, will let Lukoshenko go and the Belarusians will be able to at least push the rotten meat (for example, by the way, I have no doubt about the quality of Belarusian products) - Onishchenko will be all the same.
            1. smile
              smile 30 August 2013 16: 49 New
              +3
              atalef
              Yes, I agree. But agree and you - we also have our own interests. And if for their protection there should be such a devil Onishchenko with him, let it be. Onishchenko’s “use” is as demonstrative as actions against us. no one is hiding anything, you just have to express yourself in a diplomatic language, that's just trying about evil microbes ... :)))
              1. atalef
                atalef 30 August 2013 20: 48 New
                +3
                Quote: smile
                . But agree and you - we also have our own interests.

                Of course, and this is absolutely correct.

                Quote: smile
                Onishchenko’s “use” is as demonstrative as actions against us. nobody hides anything

                I believe that to use * a sanction, such a creature as Onishchenko * does not paint a great country. The GDP was supposed to come out (more precisely, just a hint at the diplomatic channels) so that they would release him at the same hour, while Lukashenko would bring him to the plane.
                1. smile
                  smile 30 August 2013 22: 10 New
                  +2
                  atalef
                  Well, I don’t know ... To be honest, I think Lukashenko is the person to run into. His character, be healthy. In addition, I believe that the Old Man gave the go-ahead to give publicity to the case, he also holds everything in his fist. Well, if he wants to aggravate relations, no Putin will hinder him. In addition, I am glad that Putin remains silent on this subject — he still did not have enough to fan the scandal ... Well, what Onishchenko is, everyone knows ... he has such a dog job ... :))) ) As we have a conflict, it is pulled out of a holster ... :)))) And he also has a rare ability to tryn’t get so fucked up on his blue eye that a normal person would have burned out of shame ... but this one is pinkish .. . :)))
                  1. smile
                    smile 30 August 2013 23: 04 New
                    +3
                    smile
                    I correct a mistake in my comment on the first line I missed the particle “NOT” I wanted to write- “I DO NOT think that Lukashenkoz is the kind of person you can run into”.
                2. Mature naturalist
                  Mature naturalist 30 August 2013 22: 36 New
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                  Quote: atalef
                  The GDP was supposed to come out (more precisely, just a hint at the deep channels) so that they would let him go at the same time

                  Or maybe this is not necessary for GDP? Or maybe he needs, just, then,
                  what happened?
                  "They have their own wedding, we have our own."
            2. CTEPX
              CTEPX 1 September 2013 12: 05 New
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              You will see. will let Lukoshenko CEO UralKali

              I am afraid that the word "let go", here it is necessary to replace it with EMPTY)).
  3. a52333
    a52333 30 August 2013 08: 57 New
    +3
    "Old Man" is to blame. What he changed there in milk technology two days ago is not clear. request wink
    1. smile
      smile 30 August 2013 13: 27 New
      +5
      a52333
      Old Man decided for some reason to arrange a demonstrative flogging ... at the same time, it touches that his law enforcers dearly care, besides their own, also about Israeli, Canadian, German and Chinese interests ... as the media clearly reported. That milk did not make provocative statements and spoiled .... kefir sticks are also on the verge of fainting, they are ashamed .... in general ...
  4. Captain Vrungel
    Captain Vrungel 30 August 2013 08: 58 New
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    Yaroslav the Wise ...
    1. Fantomac
      Fantomac 30 August 2013 10: 20 New
      15
      A thief should sit in jail!!!
      1. smile
        smile 30 August 2013 13: 31 New
        +2
        Fantomac
        Yes, you’re right ... and the blackmailer must be weaned from a bad habit that spoils relations between countries and is beneficial only to that, Israeli, Canadian. German and other comrades about the protection of the interests of which Batkins were reported by law enforcement officers ...
        1. Khokhol-MSC
          Khokhol-MSC 30 August 2013 16: 59 New
          +5
          But the thief must be in prison.
  5. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 30 August 2013 09: 00 New
    12
    Russia's relations with Belarus are reminiscent of the movement of a pendulum: we kiss, hug, or we begin to "sort things out." In addition to the fact that these “squabbles” in no way promote the interests of our fraternal countries and damage the image of a union state, it’s a very uncomfortable moment now because of possible aggression against Syria. Now all Assad’s friends need to be together, especially since there is no unity among Western countries on the question of the start of a military operation!
    1. tukzar
      tukzar 30 August 2013 09: 58 New
      +8
      Russia's relations with Belarus are reminiscent of the movement of a pendulum: we kiss, hug, or we begin to "sort things out."

      There is a saying on this subject: “Love can’t be without pain - said the monkey, hugging a hedgehog” !!! laughing
  6. dirty trick
    dirty trick 30 August 2013 09: 01 New
    31
    I respect comrade Lukashenko - he really cares about his country and his people
    eh, if all the governors of our territories and regions were like this, otherwise:
    1. smile
      smile 30 August 2013 13: 36 New
      -1
      dirty trick
      Old Man. Undoubtedly worthy of respect ... the only bad thing is that his concern is moving Belarus further away from Russia ... such hysteria has been raised in the Belarusian media about this, a negative image of Russia and Russians is deliberately created ... why is this demonstrative? ... again , nevertheless, reverence towards the West does not contribute at all to the strengthening of friendship ...
      1. Ka-52
        Ka-52 30 August 2013 17: 01 New
        +5
        And I do not understand how it is possible to raise the feuds of economic entities on the state level! request
        1. cdrt
          cdrt 31 August 2013 01: 30 New
          +1
          And I do not understand how it is possible to raise the feuds of economic entities on the state level!


          That's it. Especially apply the KGB in these disputes. It turns out that while the negotiations with the chairman of the government were conducted - everything was fine, but as they did not bend down - the enemy of the people. If you are in fact a vassal living on a subsidy, respect the citizens of the overlord.
          I hope that as a result of the war, Belarus will become a couple of billion less than the Russian Federation. It will become a subsidy. And then some kind of strange union turns out - one feeds, the second still nibbles his lactating hand.
          Why so - in the USSR, the Russian Federation paid for everything, now again - the same Belarusians are paid again. For some reason, we get free friendship only with Kazakhstan
          1. Ammane
            Ammane 31 August 2013 18: 29 New
            +1
            Belarus feeds just Russia, but Onishchenko ceased to arrange products.
            1. egsp
              egsp 1 September 2013 16: 14 New
              +2
              Yeah, fed
          2. Zymran
            Zymran 1 September 2013 15: 44 New
            +2
            More precisely for our (Kazakhstani) account. wink
    2. Vlad 1965
      Vlad 1965 5 September 2013 14: 19 New
      0
      The appeal of Belarus to Interpol demanding the arrest of Suleiman Kerimov was supported by all the necessary evidence and accepted for execution, which makes the owner of Uralkali virtually impossible to travel abroad from Russia.
      Such a turn of events was a real shock to the liberal "elite", which until then through its information channels has thoroughly defamed the President of the Republic of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, such information is circulating in the diplomatic circles of the Russian capital ...
  7. Ulysses
    Ulysses 30 August 2013 09: 04 New
    15
    "Onishenko's microbes, as a way of political struggle."
    A good topic for a dissertation.
  8. White
    White 30 August 2013 09: 05 New
    19
    Very good advertising TC, partnerships above all.
    1. Sergey_K
      Sergey_K 31 August 2013 00: 26 New
      +2
      I support. The dispute between the two entities due to the fusion of power and business is resolved by no means by market methods ... It would seem, moreover, here Ukraine is lassoing in the CU ...
    2. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu 31 August 2013 08: 39 New
      0
      Quote: White
      Very good advertising TC, partnerships above all.
      After such an attitude to Belarus fraternal for Russia, someone else from the Russian Federation presents Kazakhstan for his multi-vector policy ?? !! belay
      Quote: avt Multi-vector. Weathervane.
      At the same time, Russians are still surprised that in Kazakhstan there are many who are against the CU, and indeed any friendly relations with the Russian Federation ?? !!
      Quote: berimor
      but seeing how Russia breaks out the hands of its TS colleagues
      ..
      Quote: cdrt
      For some reason, we get free friendship only with Kazakhstan
      Nude, as if this is a merit of the Kazakhstan side good
      And, so now we too would have witnessed a melodrama with the "bends" and "bends" of the RK ..
      Due to the notorious multi-vector policy, Kazakhstan has many fallback options that make it possible to level the “Belarusian option” in relation to it.
      R.S .: Nude recourse if Russia does this in relation to her native, fraternal Belarus, then what can we expect in relation to Kazakhstan ?? !!
      1. Zymran
        Zymran 1 September 2013 15: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: Alibekulu
        Due to the notorious multi-vector policy, Kazakhstan has many fallback options that make it possible to level the “Belarusian option” in relation to it.


        Only for some reason he does not use them.
  9. Matroskin
    Matroskin 30 August 2013 09: 16 New
    22
    Again, this mongrel-Onishchenko was poisoned. So what's wrong is Onishchenko. At first it was amusing, then funny, now disgusting. It would be better if he caught cockroaches from the heads of our elite. Ekak thief stirred. We got used to living on the principle that I want to toss and turn. And in Belarus it broke off. I am already sick of our (parish ..) rulers.
    1. smile
      smile 30 August 2013 13: 40 New
      0
      Matroskin
      It’s not clear ... are you so used to fucking Russia that you think everyone is right. who is scandalizing with us? Do you also call Russia "this country"? You also think. what is the meaning of our existence-eternal concessions in return for the indulgent permission to be called our friend?
  10. 787nkx
    787nkx 30 August 2013 09: 21 New
    11
    Fraternal states should not allow such demarches.
    What unions and mutual obligations can be if both sides allow themselves to speak on counterarguments. Probably the newlyweds are not yet ripe for marriage. It is a shame that the actions of the leaders of our states do not coincide with the aspirations of the peoples.
    1. smile
      smile 30 August 2013 13: 43 New
      +2
      787nkx
      It’s even more insulting that we are always on the defensive side in such squabbles ... and it’s the marriage partners who allow themselves tantrums, instead of quietly resolving urgent problems without publicly breaking dishes ...
      1. Vlad 1965
        Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 13: 46 New
        -1
        Roughly working. Roughly, ............. and without arguments.
        1. smile
          smile 30 August 2013 14: 16 New
          0
          Vlad 1965
          Calm down, keep yourself in control do not hysteria, I have not touched you yet ...:))) ... as I understand it, you have nothing to say in the case? Yes, by the way, attempts to insult me ​​personally are indifferent to me ................
          1. Vlad 1965
            Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 14: 48 New
            +4
            Thanks to the site administrator, corrected me.
            In the case, in the case you really have nothing to say, except for stupidity in line with the propaganda of the interests of bloodsuckers.
            And for the future, a wise guy, a true-minded fighter for the oligarchy and their relatives, cut yourself on your nose, you are not my opponent, so a talker, of whom in the internet, a dime a dozen.
            Criticism of Russia for inconsistency, for the surrender of its allies, is useful and necessary, stupid criticism, the LEADER of the country, as well as the frenzy of bloodsuckers, are no longer interesting to anyone, learn it.
            1. smile
              smile 30 August 2013 15: 02 New
              -4
              Vlad 1965
              Well, have fun .... :))) If you so need to consider yourself the most, for God's sake. I admit that you are the smartest, strongest, most beautiful ... you know, I saw people like you in the cartoon "Mowgli". is there such a people there who consider themselves the smartest in the jungle .... are you such? :))) By the way, my comment was also truncated by the totalitarian moderators ... I will somehow submit them to the European Court of Human Rights ... otherwise, it turns out that I’m not being rude ....

              And chop yourself on the tail-will be rude, put in place. All. Is free. Fuck .... king of the hill ... :)))
              1. Vlad 1965
                Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 15: 18 New
                +2
                You can put only what is sagging, no more.
                Rude, so don’t be rude, a shard with epaulettes, this is just a virtual difference, not saying anything about your actual condition.
                So far, a kind of king of the mountain, with aplomb and exorbitant ambitions, I see only in your verbiage, on the issue of the article, you and your mentions are in a clear minority, if not more sharply.
                In general, go to the KAA, Mowgli, you are simply not interesting to me, because you are empty and noisy, not in moderation.
                1. smile
                  smile 30 August 2013 15: 39 New
                  -3
                  Vlad 1965
                  Ohohoh ... another brawler on my head ... will you give me something to read, eh?
                  You sagged with me .. and it was you who I set ... how is it? Does your head not swing? :)))
                  You saw the king in verbiage ... you think about it. what they wrote :)))) fun, do you also have literacy problems? Urgently read the primer! :))
                  While you squealed and poured accusations. I was calm and a little cheerful ... :)))) Your decision to stop the swara you unleashed is absolutely correct. And I can read it normally, and you will be more whole. :)))
                  And advice, always have your opinion, not focusing on the majority opinion. This does not mean that you will always be right. but that means you can think for yourself. And an independently thinking person can understand that he is mistaken and change his mind. Ram never! :)))
                  Good luck :)))
            2. I am a Russian
              I am a Russian 30 August 2013 21: 50 New
              +3
              Quote: Vlad 1965
              chop yourself on the nose, you are not my opponent, so the talker, of whom in the internet, a dime a dozen.


              Vlad you huge + good
        2. Vlad 1965
          Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 15: 56 New
          +2
          ALL comments relate to one not-so-distant comrade who imagines himself to be a "generalissimo", I'm sorry that it happened, but I have to drive him into an emergency, so as not to aggravate the tear ...
          Even the propaganda that he is trying to conduct against Belarus and our relations with it, is HORRIBLE.
  11. yura83
    yura83 30 August 2013 09: 23 New
    10
    "According to Basargin, the arrest of the CEO of Uralkali can destabilize the operation of the enterprise, on the state of which the well-being of the residents of Solikamsk and Bereznikov, where almost a quarter of a million people live, depends in many respects."
    Thank you, because I even stopped sleeping at night, I’m still thinking about Vladislav Arturovich, who he left us with, how we will live without him. What they did with Silvinit, this situation is destabilizing. Nothing, I’ll sit and eat Belarusian potatoes with their milk and then they will still be released and everything will be as it was, that's sad.
    Greetings from sunny Solikamsk.)
  12. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 30 August 2013 09: 23 New
    +3
    The actions of Rospotrebnadzor and Transneft, as noted by many analysts, signify the start of a trade war between Russia and Belarus.- Not for the first time, and not for the last, we hope they will manage with "little blood." hi
  13. baltika-18
    baltika-18 30 August 2013 09: 28 New
    15
    So much for the creation of the Evrazes.
    And Onishchenko weakly check "Wim Bill Dan"?
    Or does it work only after a command from above?
    1. Hon
      Hon 30 August 2013 10: 18 New
      +2
      And what is wrong with vim-bil-dan?
    2. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr 30 August 2013 10: 26 New
      +9
      Tell me, I don’t remember which of our officials works without a hint? I think you won’t find a single one, including our president. We have market relations. The one who snatched is right ... Let them understand. We all pounced on both sides together. And what do we know in real life? Absolutely nothing.
      Only a simple upholstery is always on hand. Those. We are suckers.
      1. the polar
        the polar 30 August 2013 18: 48 New
        +4
        Quote: AleksUkr
        Tell me, I don’t remember which of our officials works without a hint? I think you won’t find a single one, including our president. We have market relations. The one who snatched is right ... Let them understand. We all pounced on both sides together. And what do we know in real life? Absolutely nothing.
        Only a simple upholstery is always on hand. Those. We are suckers.

        Yes, everything is known. The Kerim thief, using cheating schemes, essentially raided the potash market owned by the Belkali-Uralkali joint venture. Those. he simply threw billions into his Belarusian partner.
        Father is guilty that he believed the thief, but did not run to him with a complaint to the UN, so he invited one of the cheaters, the chairman of the "supervisory board" of the joint venture, and put him in jail not as a Russian citizen, but as a thief - a member of a thieves' gang who robbed Joint Venture.
        All is correct. Shuvalov’s tantrums and onischenko’s pounding give out a “thieves roof” with his head.
    3. solomon
      solomon 30 August 2013 12: 11 New
      0
      Looks like there are still doubters.
  14. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 30 August 2013 09: 33 New
    +7
    Something our oligarchs with the Old Man did not share, or just these old bastards disgusted the Old Man.
    Onishchenko saw something impoverished once he began to work for a commercial and not a government order.
  15. Ascetic
    Ascetic 30 August 2013 09: 34 New
    18
    The Baumgartner case, launched in Belarus, could not have begun without the consent, or even the direct instruction of Vladimir Putin. This is an attack on Voloshin and Karimov, one of the main sponsors of the “sugar swamp” of the so-called liberal opposition. And retaliatory actions against Belarus and Lukashenko are explained only by the lobbyism of comprador oligarchs in the Medvedev government.
    A typical operation of the special services ... Putin is supposedly on the sidelines and Lukashenko will not get used to it, because after Putin he is the most hated politician “dictator” for liberals (and Yeltsin shot the parliament as an exemplary democrat, unlike Lukashenko, who won more than a convincing election victory).
    And now they are witnessing on Echo and Rain with other handshakes that they are torturing a person with a simple Russian surname Baumgartner in the dungeons of the Belarusian KGB. Something tells me that there will be a continuation of the series “The Case of Magnitsky-2”.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 30 August 2013 09: 56 New
      +2
      Not a fact, not a fact. Uncle Vova might not have known.
      1. tukzar
        tukzar 30 August 2013 10: 05 New
        +5
        Not a fact, not a fact. Uncle Vova might not have known.

        Is this your joke, or do you really believe that Vova does not have his own “rumors” ??? laughing
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 30 August 2013 14: 16 New
          +2
          There may be rumors, here I’ll get better, know and control are two different things. The story is a bit dark to draw conclusions now. But the fact that Baumgartner is anointed is not necessary to go to the fortuneteller.
      2. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 30 August 2013 10: 28 New
        +5
        The Kremlin has not yet commented on this situation, which means that it just knows everything, Vova is generally a well-informed man, while he was calmly doing business in the Far East during hysteria with Syria, it means he knew that it was all a bluff.
        1. dmb
          dmb 30 August 2013 10: 48 New
          +8
          Well, yes, of course, Shuvalov is not the Kremlin. Fellow citizens suggest that all together (according to our old habit) begin to collect signatures for the release from the dungeons of the bloody KaGeBe that Baum ..., Boymen ..., well, in general the sufferer for our national Russian cause. We support in this holy struggle the current citizen Minin (Voloshin) and Prince Pozharsky (Shuvalov), so that the damn Poles (Belarusians) would not think that they are allowed to plant our thieves in their own country.
        2. smile
          smile 30 August 2013 13: 55 New
          +2
          tilovaykrisa
          It’s just that Vova doesn’t like to make a fuss about anything, and understands perfectly well that if you answer symmetrically to the actions of the Old Man and allow yourself the same remarks regarding Belarus as he allows himself with respect to Russia, the surest way is to go to pieces. ... and it will not be better for them either for us or for us ... it’s a pity that the Old Man doesn’t have such restraint ...
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 30 August 2013 17: 45 New
            +1
            Russia in the person of Bori, Dima and Vova passed Bulbasha so many times that the Old Man has every reason to cover them with such obscenities ... I consider Ukrainians, Bulbashes and Russians to be one people, and it’s not good for us to have fun with pendesos on household issues.
            1. liberty
              liberty 30 August 2013 18: 37 New
              10
              You call Ukrainians Ukrainians, but us Bulbash? This is not good.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 31 August 2013 15: 35 New
                +3
                Quote: liberty
                You call Ukrainians Ukrainians, but us Bulbash? This is not good.

                I myself bulbash. Born and live in Russia.
    2. Vlad 1965
      Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 10: 12 New
      13
      Your opinion seems to be TRUTH, since you are being mined immediately and many.
      Indeed, once the thieves were arrested, all liberalism fell into a howl, oh, they offended “ours”, to hell with sending all such “ours”.
      Lukashenko did right, very right, the limit to theft and predation should be put.
      1. smile
        smile 30 August 2013 15: 13 New
        -2
        Vlad 1965
        I always say only what I think. No minus signs and plus signs will make me change my mind or shut up.
        Yours personally evaluate me and whether I am telling the truth by the number of people. rating my statement negatively looks quite humorous ... are you kidding right?
        1. Vlad 1965
          Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 15: 21 New
          +4
          It can be seen which "truth" you prefer and what nonsense thresh.
          You are trying to impose your opinion, so it’s not the best way it comes out to you, rudely, primitively, without the slightest argument, so scream, no more.
    3. smile
      smile 30 August 2013 13: 50 New
      -1
      Ascetic
      Hello. An interesting version .... But then why explain the anti-Russian hysteria raised in Belarus? ... such things never pass without a trace and very painfully strike at the friendship of peoples ... the behavior of the Belarusians is very demonstrative ... and to lure a person into the country under the pretext of negotiations of such a level is generally nonsense ... if it was a special operation, then it most effectively affected interstate relations and the relations of Belarusians to us .... unfortunately.
      1. Vlad 1965
        Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 13: 58 New
        +5
        smile (2
        You work roughly.
        Spruce undertook to be a kind of propaganda. Don, so at least not so rude and deceitful.
        Do you see Kermiov, Potanin, Abramovia closer?
        Are they on the heap with Dvorkovich and Chubais, they are running for Russia?
        There is no aggravation of interstate relations in essence, there is an avid struggle of bloodsuckers from Russia for an extra piece, but it broke off.
        A thief should sit in Jail, and serve the interests of thieves, be a kind of information sherster, at least ashamed.
        Although what am I talking about ... where did the sixes, in the service of the olinarchate, have a conscience?
        Even if the work of the sixes is supposedly in support of the entire Russian?
        1. smile
          smile 30 August 2013 14: 30 New
          -2
          Vlad 1965
          In principle, with a loud ........... usually I don’t explain anything, but in this case I’ll make an exception, not for you, of course, but in order to understand my position.

          I don’t doubt for a second about unscrupulousness and bloodsucking ... :)))) oligarchs, both ours and Belarus, and I don’t care about their personal interests. But in this case, this conflict. which could be resolved in silence (if negotiations were conducted at such a level. then it could have been resolved with the involvement of our government, which could put pressure on ours. if they are not right) ...
          But no, the matter was given the widest publicity. A rather noisy company was raised in Belarus, and it was against Russia ... we were reminded of all our gas and other scandals .... Ours responded in the same way, but much quieter, obviously there was no go-ahead ...

          Bottom line, I don’t know who is right in this particular dispute, and you too, despite your ridiculous peremptoryness ... but it was the demonstrative scandal raised by the Belarusian side around this case that hit the relations between the countries very painfully and sets Belarusians against Russia ... .
          By the way, do you think that Belarusian capitalists are better than ours? :))) Than? That. that they are more obedient to Old Man than our PU? :)))
          1. Vlad 1965
            Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 15: 00 New
            +4
            You are lucky that the admin removed the word in time. And leave your comment, painted in foolishness, for your colleagues, I don’t
            interesting.
            Watch your words and do not throw stupid accusations against people you don’t know.
            You have already expressed your position, I carefully read it, in another article, EMPTY word of mouth about anything.
            Belarus has done what any self-respecting country needs to do.
            And it’s not for you to blame Lukashenko and the whole of Belarus as a whole, all the more so it’s so safe to blaspheme against another without seeing under your nose that brothel in the economy that your defendants Baumikerimovs and other gang of bloodsuckers have bred.
            Belarusian capitalists?
            These are sitting exactly in their backside, not snorting at Lukashenko and not spoiling the country, only grantozhki of different spills, something here on the Internet, carry all kinds of bullshit.
            Exactly the same as you.
            Learn it.
            1. smile
              smile 30 August 2013 15: 28 New
              -5
              Vlad 1965
              Ah, how lucky I am! Here I am lucky! :)))I'm happy! :))) I’ll sing the hosiery to the moderators who saved me from your bloodthirsty fangs! :)))
              I am amazed by your intellect on the spot ... you and he rushing ... in every word ... :)))

              I really appreciate it. that you have made my most insignificant comments your attention ... but if you are not able to understand my position, there is no my fault ... :))
              To be honest, it’s disgusting to talk to you-scandal, like a bazaar woman ... I don’t intend to discuss anything with you — I despise scandalists with megalomania ... I already told you - Free. Fucked ...
              And learn please, do not force to put you in place, and I am disgusted and offended .... :)))
              1. Vlad 1965
                Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 15: 43 New
                +5
                Well, what are you talking about? Besides screaming, like a cat whose tail was pinched by a door, can you say nothing more?
                These are your cries of the market trading, you regard as something smart? In what place?
                Allow your mania, "greatness" to the state that corresponds to your "greatness"
                And put it, so I wrote to you above that you are there, maybe with the help of BF-5 you can put it.
                So the exit is free.
            2. cdrt
              cdrt 31 August 2013 01: 40 New
              -1
              Yeah - I remember remember. He was in Belarus immediately after their chant with a failed color revolution. Well, right away - after half a year. So in Gomel, ordinary people who accepted us were afraid to go along with us, such as not gathering more than three. We went (5 people) - a lad in a suit really drew himself, poked with a poke and began to check documents. Then he muttered that we were violating the order; they began to ask what? - muttered something and rolled off.
              So simple - for some reason I remembered ...
            3. sandro7715
              sandro7715 31 August 2013 04: 15 New
              0
              in theory, with very few exceptions, we don’t even have capitalists. Factories and factories are all state-owned or with a large share of the state in them. And there are many
          2. sandro7715
            sandro7715 31 August 2013 04: 09 New
            -1
            something bad is not being written against Russia. but about the crooks, yes.
      2. goldfinger
        goldfinger 30 August 2013 16: 24 New
        +9
        What hysteria ?! The Lord is with you! Do not believe me, open the website of the newspaper "Belarus Today" A bunch of materials specific. All on the shelves. And Kerimov and Koro are wanted. And thanks to the Russian people for understanding. Did someone have to stop the international thieves? And what are you distracting for the Russian people. Up to verbal diarrhea. Without your deceitful comms, they’ll figure it out. Hysteria! Movement away from Russia! To the dreamer! Probably something personal7 Someone offended you or your loved ones? Maybe similar to Kerim's business was broken off? Carry a blizzard, and even with aplomb.
        1. sandro7715
          sandro7715 31 August 2013 04: 19 New
          +1
          I completely work. I myself work at the plant together with the Russians and something that they never reproached anyone or pointed out whether you were Russian or not. if you were a good person
      3. sandro7715
        sandro7715 31 August 2013 04: 06 New
        0
        where did you get that the attitude of the Belarusians towards the Russians is deteriorating?
        do not confuse karimov’s baumgunters with all Russian people
  16. Liasenski
    Liasenski 30 August 2013 09: 43 New
    +5
    Lukashenko must be summoned to Anishchenko in Belarus and arrested; he also did a lot of dirty tricks, either in the milk of the microbe or sugar in the wrong color. am laughing Kindergarten. This situation should be viewed only from the right side and in no case political, or some other way. In short, we’ll survive the next scandal in the family, the main thing that would not come to a fight.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 30 August 2013 10: 02 New
      +6
      Quote: Liasenski
      This situation needs to be viewed only from the right side and in no case political, or some other way.

      I do not agree. The economy has always been a lever of influence in politics. Only now is this lever used against the fraternal people. Unfortunately.
      1. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr 30 August 2013 10: 31 New
        +4
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Only now is this lever used against the fraternal people


        AGAINST BROTHER PEOPLE OR "BROTHER" POLITICS?
        Or maybe it was?
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 31 August 2013 15: 42 New
          0
          Panas are fighting, and at lackeys forelocks are cracking.
  17. shurup
    shurup 30 August 2013 10: 23 New
    +2
    Belarusians, in turn, can’t find lactic acid bacteria in any other Russian milk. But the Onishchenko department is not responsible for the lack of microbes in the products.
    Again, Ukraine is to blame for the fact that friendship has cracked. If someone conducts incoming quality control of products only on paper, covering his eyes from bright light with a chubby envelope, then what does Onishchenko have to do with it - he did not steal collective farm fertilizers at night even in childhood.
  18. Alex66
    Alex66 30 August 2013 10: 25 New
    +9
    And I am for the Old Man, he defends the good of his country, his people and it would not be bad if our leaders also worried about national wealth.
    1. smile
      smile 30 August 2013 14: 00 New
      -5
      Alex66
      If our side answers, defending our good, by the same measures, we quarrel completely and for good ... do you want this? Or are you ready to make any concessions at the expense of Russia? Therefore, the demonstrative actions of Belarus cause you such approval?
      1. Khokhol-MSC
        Khokhol-MSC 30 August 2013 17: 07 New
        +3
        because they relate to the oligarchs holding enterprises of the Russian Federation.
        No one in the Russian Federation loves them, because they only care about themselves, and they don’t give a damn about the Russian Federation. And their packaging in the dungeon will only be standing applaud. But But father has repeatedly shown that he cares about his country. That’s the whole difference.
        Therefore, people are on the side of Luke, and they are making minuses to you.
        1. smile
          smile 30 August 2013 20: 11 New
          +1
          Khokhol-MSC
          I know very well. as we relate to the Old Man, and am well aware that many of what I said do not like it. And they will express this not only in normal polemics, but also mainly in minuses or in swearing, such as Vlad 1965, whose comments somehow deleted. But I found it necessary to speak out.
          And yours, excuse me, babbling about the minuses is just ridiculous ... you guess why? :)))
          And in general, is it more important for you to collect minuses or pluses, or express your point of view? :))) Or are you only writing what you think should be praised for? Congratulations, you are a very principled person, you will go far .... :)))
        2. cdrt
          cdrt 31 August 2013 01: 45 New
          -3
          Here it is true internationalism. They didn’t give a damn about their country that their citizen was essentially taken hostage on charges a la Article 58. But we will support the "brotherly" leader.
          And the citizens of any other country stand up for their own, then they might put them in prison, but they will not leave them hostage.
      2. sandro7715
        sandro7715 31 August 2013 04: 27 New
        +1
        You know, Belarus is not as rich in natural resources as Russia. You have both gas and oil, metal, etc., and then they want to cheat potassium salt with it. Income from it makes up a very large share in the budget, so such a painful reaction
  19. Muadipus
    Muadipus 30 August 2013 10: 26 New
    13
    It's not funny anymore. Pitting Onishchenko against Belarusians is neither humane nor fair.
    Belarusian food products are the only ones on the domestic market that can be trusted.
    But Mr. Onishchenko would not hurt to remember that his service should protect the health of the nation, and not the commercial interests of individual officials. If it became boring and there is nothing to do, so let him go to any supermarket for groceries, dumplings are cheaper than 300 rubles at all.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 30 August 2013 10: 41 New
      +9
      Russia bans the import of pigs and pig products from Belarus

      30 August 2013 years 10: 01


      Moscow. 30 August. INTERFAX.RU - Russia has banned the supply of pigs and pig products from Belarus since Friday due to the registration of African swine fever in this country.

      According to the Rosselkhoznadzor, the deputy head of the service, Alexei Saurin, turned to the chief state veterinary inspector of Belarus Yuri Pivovarchik with a letter stating, in particular, that in accordance with Article 8 of the Customs Union agreement on veterinary and sanitary measures of December 11 of 2009 of the year in In connection with the trouble of Belarus in African swine fever from August 30 to 2013, temporary restrictions are imposed on the movement of pigs, their genetic material, and pig production from Belarus to Russia a cell that has not undergone heat treatment at a temperature of at least 72 degrees in the thickness of the product for at least 30 minutes, guaranteeing the destruction of the ASF virus.

      http://www.interfax.ru/news.asp?id=326100&sec=0

      hence the questions to Mr. A. Saurin

      1. Do you think that the detained Mr. W. Baumgertner is the same African plague ?!
      2. Do you think that with the release of Mr. V. Baumgertner from the pre-trial detention center of the KGB of Belarus, the epidemiological situation in Belarus will improve and, accordingly, the import of milk and pig products into Russia will be fully ensured as before.

      I wrote all this in a joking manner, but to be honest it’s sad if it continues like this from the economic war to the political one, it’s a stone's throw away. The oligarchs unleashed a vendetta and ordinary people suffer as always.
      1. alone
        alone 30 August 2013 10: 46 New
        10
        )) and why onishchenko was silent before that? strange pig breeding among Belarusians. the appearance of the virus in pigs coincides with the arrest of the oligarch))) can there be any relationship between Belarusian pigs and Russian oligarchs? wassat
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 30 August 2013 11: 43 New
          +3
          Quote: lonely
          )) and why onishchenko was silent before that?

          Onishchenko is a weapon and it is silent in peacetime, but when an order arrives, it’s all Ambets, not one microbe will leak through the border wassat
          1. Kars
            Kars 30 August 2013 11: 55 New
            +6
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            -All Amban, not one microbe will not seep through the border

            It turns out until the time of war came, read some kind of aligarch who was not touched. Someone doesn’t want to enter somewhere — can Russians easily poison low-quality products?
          2. smersh70
            smersh70 30 August 2013 15: 36 New
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Onishchenko is a weapon


            ..... in the hands of politicians .... smile shoot at anyone .... and most importantly, the cartridges in the store do not end ....... laughing
      2. Vlad 1965
        Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 11: 11 New
        +7
        Apollo
        Do you doubt that entot baum, or how is it, together with Karimov, the plague in the country?
        Is it a plague of pigs in Belarus? Eh, no, it's a plague in Onishchenko’s head.
        In the North Caucasus, when the spread of this infection began, and it came from Georgia, the hunters immediately saw and said, in the mountains, an unidentified helicopter sprayed something there, and then a massive death of wild boars.
        Further, the deaths of pigs in the population, and even further, already under the brand of this plague, simply cutting out the domestic herd of the villagers, for the sake of large-scale industrial production of pork.
        Everything is interconnected, so that you, having written that Baum and other Kerim and onischen, are a plague, are not far from the truth.
      3. smile
        smile 30 August 2013 14: 05 New
        -5
        Apollo
        You are certainly right. but it is precisely the demonstrative behavior of the Belarusian side that is alarming .... this is already politics. Any questions can be solved quietly if there is a desire to solve a specific problem. When a wave rises in the media, and initially in the Belarusian ones, the question also arises: Why?
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 30 August 2013 14: 27 New
          12
          Quote: smile
          Apollo
          You are certainly right.

          I welcome you Vladimir! hi
          Quote: smile
          but it is precisely the demonstrative behavior of the Belarusian side that is alarming .... this is already politics.

          I’m not personally worried, it’s not ostentatious, but the usual UD with respect to a citizen of a different country, though. I don’t see policies from Belarus, but from Russia, yes, as an example

          Russia requires Belarus to immediately release the head of Uralkali - Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation

          MOSCOW, 30 August. / ITAR-TASS /. "Russia is demanding the release of the head of Uralkali (Vladislav Baumgertner) and expects that this will be done immediately," presidential aide Yuri Ushakov told reporters.
          http://www.itar-tass.com/c1/858552.html
          why such notes, why the investigators are not given the opportunity to figure out what’s what ?!, why pressure is being put on the republic as a whole?! No offense will be written, but I tend to believe more on the Belarusian side.
          Quote: smile
          Any questions can be solved quietly if there is a desire to solve a specific problem.

          I agree, but the question is who started. I assure if there hadn’t been such a violent reaction from the Russian authorities, to some extent the question would not have taken such shape and passed for many of us quietly and quietly, it is unlikely that any of us would have turned Attention.
          1. smile
            smile 30 August 2013 14: 49 New
            -7
            Apollo
            Yeah ... getting old and hameyu ... already forget and say hello .... :)))
            Greetings!.
            You see what a thing, I do not justify our idioms. but I must say that no high-profile statements by top officials have been made ... our media on the topic do not really travel, that is, it was enough for our minds not to give the command to wet Belarus - this would be work against ourselves, if you consider ...
            But I called my step-father in Grodno ... according to him, this topic is almost the main day in THEIR media .... the main points:
            Russians want to rob us, but we won’t give them
            Russians always wanted to rob us. but we always fought back
            Russians wanted to rob us using gas blackmail. but we put them in their place
            Russians owe us ..... like that. What conclusion can some lay people come to? That is why I have such an opinion ... my stepfather, by the way, is much more tolerant than me, a brawler of a sort ... :)))
            And some statements of the Old Man. to which I relate well, they were of such a nature that they didn’t differ much from the speeches of Brave Mishiko or Kwasniewski .... I personally feel sorry for that ... it’s clear that we always make peace and make peace .... but such scandals always leave us scars ... and Belarusians remember mutual insults for some reason longer than ours ... I don’t know why ...
            1. goldfinger
              goldfinger 30 August 2013 16: 37 New
              +5
              Sorry, a couple more cents. NO AND THERE WAS NO ANTI-RUSSIAN COMPANY IN THE MEDIA !!!!!!!
              Type in “Belarus today” in Google, the most popular newspaper, the circulation is equal, or even more than all the others, and you will understand that this is the lie of your stepfather. Which you post on the site. Like that swine plague! And there are always oppas, both with you and with us.
              1. smile
                smile 30 August 2013 17: 05 New
                -2
                goldfinger
                Yes, do not be so nervous you ... :))) I confess. I wanted to answer your insults upstairs, but then changed my mind ... I'm tired of cooling off my friend Vlad 1965 (if I don’t confuse nickname)
                I agree, oppa is everywhere, my stepfather is not a liar, he is a deeply religious person. and very intellectually developed ... so that it’s not necessary ... I’m glad if I’m wrong ... but I did see Batsky’s speeches during our squabbles. I hope you don’t need to retell what he said about Russia? I would not want to. I’ll say one thing, not one of our condos made such statements .... and I’m in Belarus ... unfortunately, I have to say that not everything is as smooth as you and I would like ... and I really didn’t like it that they didn’t let the problem down quietly, but put it on display ... it’s not good for anyone ....
                And please, talk to me normally, don't make me scandal, okay? :)))
      4. smersh70
        smersh70 30 August 2013 15: 35 New
        +7
        Quote: Apollon
        2. Do you think that with the release of Mr. V. Baumgertner from the pre-trial detention center of the KGB of Belarus, the epidemiological situation in Belarus will improve and, accordingly, the import of milk and pig products into Russia will be fully ensured as before.



        Class ........ laughing good
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 30 August 2013 10: 46 New
      +6
      This is not just not funny. This is the destruction of the vehicle for the sake of the oligarch Karimov.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 30 August 2013 11: 45 New
        +3
        Quote: Spade
        This is not just not funny. This is the destruction of the vehicle for the sake of the oligarch Karimov.

        Yes, do not worry, agree, not the first time.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 30 August 2013 12: 00 New
          +6
          After the commencement of the work of TS-in the first. And it is not known what it will result in. The Chinese have long looked at the enterprises of Belarus.
          So you can ally and pump all. For the sake of Karimov’s wallet.
          1. Vlad 1965
            Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 12: 38 New
            +2
            Judging by the statement of this boy, who is clearly not interested in the UNION, everything is so _ "The Baumgertner Case. The Government of the Russian Federation is closely monitoring the situation with the detention of Uralkali CEO Vladislav Baumgertner in Belarus, said Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich." We We continue to consider the current situation unacceptable. I want to once again note that Baumgertner arrived in Minsk to negotiate at the invitation of Prime Minister Mikhail Myasnikovich, "Voice of Russia quoted Dvorkovich as saying with reference to Interfax.

            Dvorkovich stressed that "the Russian government had nothing to do with the scandal that arose, but our position was that it was necessary to promote either normalization of relations or civilized divorce."

            “Given the general nature of the current situation, we are forced to look more carefully and seriously at a number of issues,” the Russian deputy prime minister warned. The Russian government has instructed departments to "more intensively deal" with the risks of importing agricultural products into the Russian Federation from Belarus, Dvorkovich said. According to him, "we also have claims to quality and safety for a number of products." In addition, taking into account the openness of borders, there are great risks of delivering products from third countries through Belarus, the deputy prime minister said in a statement. "
            And about this boy, legends go about his mediocrity and frankly liberal views embedded in his head, while he studied in England.
        2. tverskoi77
          tverskoi77 30 August 2013 12: 42 New
          +3
          Yes, do not worry, agree, not the first time
          as with neighboring Ukraine)))
      2. yanus
        yanus 30 August 2013 17: 48 New
        +1
        But didn’t that Father Butka arrested the director general of the largest Russian company, and didn’t even find a normal reason? For some reason, everyone forgets that the company is a trader, which seems to have managed sales and delinquered under joint management. And the gender editor there is Belarusian. Was she arrested? No, have not heard?
        Uralkali is the largest tax payer and stands as half-Belarus. Do you seriously think that any country will endure such an “arrest" in silence?
        When But father signed the decree - "we are free to sell potassium ourselves," he forgot a little that it was necessary to sell on market conditions. And as it turned out, this is not easy to do - here Uralkali is now crushing the former joint customers. But now he has a "hostage", he will now put pressure on Uralkali. fool ...
        So the vehicle destroys Lukashenko with his original approach to solving problems.
    3. cdrt
      cdrt 31 August 2013 01: 49 New
      0
      Belarusian food products are the only ones on the domestic market that can be trusted.


      That is curious - another manifestation of the Russian dope. Why can Belarusian products be trusted? Since the infection after Chernobyl passed there? From the fact that because of ASF, meat was banned all over the world (and they were not indignant - for the fact is on the face), since the absence of ASF was lied to our and UN doctors for several months ???
      And what’s the only thing - empty talk
      1. Michael_59
        Michael_59 4 September 2013 08: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: cdrt
        Why can Belarusian products be trusted?

        Yes, because they are natural, tasty and healthy. Give it a try.
  20. alone
    alone 30 August 2013 10: 31 New
    +9
    because of some kind of oligarch thief, it’s unacceptable to lose such an ally. Do you think Lukashenko does not understand what this could lead to? The oligarch is accused enough of serious crimes. If there was nothing, then they will be released. If he did something, let him answer. And there will be another lesson. Think the oligarchs honestly
    all earned? honestly you won’t earn so much)))
  21. huut
    huut 30 August 2013 10: 44 New
    -7
    I don’t fully believe in either. Everyone has their own interests and both sides are not angels. But the Russian “not an angel” is closer to me, because I live here, and Belarusian interests are further for me. This is about matters of faith.

    And for the question of truth, facts are needed, then it will be possible to judge who stole from whom and who is the victim. Only in such cases all the facts will still not be revealed, or twisted for the sake of generality. So see the first paragraph.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 30 August 2013 10: 47 New
      +8
      How is the Russian oligarch closer to you so much that for the sake of his interests you allow such actions?
      1. huut
        huut 30 August 2013 11: 12 New
        -2
        And I do not believe that it is only a matter of the Russian oligarchy, the government circles of both countries can be the initiator / accomplice, and judging by the reaction of the leaders this is more than likely.

        And why should I wish, in this case, that the Belarusian elite draw the blanket? The fact that fraternity at the top is only declared is very bad, but this is not a reason to concede any conflict. Ukraine is not enough? Or maybe Lukashenko still desired preferences, for the moment is very profitable ... Or has he already become a saint? No, he cannot be a saint, he is a politician, he also has interests.

        The Russian oligarch is no closer to me; pro-Russian political decisions are closer to me. And the fact that they are not always clean ... I am already being treated for idealism, and you?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 30 August 2013 11: 31 New
          12
          So, the history of raiding the Russian oligarchy with the support of the Russian authorities is quite extensive. Almost everyone was noted here: gas workers, oil industry workers, machine builders, even large milk producers like Danone and others like them. At the same time, the inhabitants of Russia received 0 (zero). I thought that with the creation of the TS this will stop. However, it is clear that the interests of the oligarchy in our country prevail over the interests of the state. And this is unacceptable.

          Remember the milk war? Are you aware that its initiator is the Russian Dairy Union still doesn’t fulfill the requirements that were then imposed on Belarusian enterprises, and we buy milk reconstituted from powder (it should be called a “milk drink”), we buy oil that is pretty flavored with vegetable fats (it should be called a “spread”)
          Do you think this is normal?
          1. Vlad 1965
            Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 11: 44 New
            +6
            Lopatov
            In confirmation, today on TV, some kind of boob, speaking, says that there will be no failures with milk in Russia, because the European Union, if necessary, will put everything in place, isn’t the dog rummaged?
            Together with all this damned oligarchy and their information service, including Onishchenko7
            Therefore, instead of high-quality Belarusian products, all sorts of rubbish, and the profits, all these small-town townships, will be distributed efficiently by the owners in their own pockets with the EU.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 30 August 2013 11: 56 New
              +5
              Quote: Vlad 1965
              In confirmation, today on TV, some kind of boob, speaking, says that there will be no failures with milk in Russia, because the European Union, if necessary, will put everything in place, isn’t the dog rummaged?

              This booby is just a representative of this "union" And his statements about European manufacturers are at least strange.
              1. Vlad 1965
                Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 12: 03 New
                +6
                Lopatov
                Yes, they are not strange statements, but simply statements of the sale of our watered and economic monopoly.
                All these shashels from Russia, as well as Belarus, need only one thing, to fill up a pocket with impunity, then Zyuganov announced the digital clock half an hour ago, how much money these owners took out-10 trillion rubles, is it worth wondering howling all these defenders of Baum and Karim’s ??
          2. huut
            huut 30 August 2013 11: 57 New
            -2
            Quote: Spade
            Do you think this is normal?

            I think this does not apply to the topic. Topic - Who is right? I do not consider the Belarusian side to be right, like the Russian side. But I’d better be on the Russian side, because the country's political and economic victories nevertheless affect the welfare of its citizens, albeit not always explicitly.

            This does not mean that I will scream "Russian oligarchs forward!" or "Buy up Belarus!". But I don’t see any sense in indulging the Belarusian elite, whose snouts are also down, albeit in their own, special way.
            1. Vlad 1965
              Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 12: 15 New
              +4
              huut RU
              Heh, bent "political and economic victory"
              OVER whom ???
              OVER his only ally for the sake of the pocket of the oligarch KERIMOV, has he already thrown off your bounty, thirty, that you are so worried about him and his accomplices ??
              Do we actually have a Union State with Belarus, are you not up to date ??
              Reflects on the welfare of citizens, yeah, as in the morgue, in intensive care plus 40 in the morgue is zero, and in general in the hospital - 36,6.
              As well as in "welfare2, who has a billion, and who has 6000 for everything, but not an average of thirty thousand per snout. But the trouble is, for Karimov alone with a billion of 2000 with 6000 in his pocket.
              Think before you write something like that ....
              1. huut
                huut 30 August 2013 12: 51 New
                -1
                Quote: Vlad 1965
                In general, we have a UNIONING State with Belarus

                True? But what about economic wars with this very state? Maybe because everyone defends their interests? And whoever has a “defender” at one moment or another is better, he is snatching a piece for himself. This does not prevent the "union".
                You turn a blind eye to the fact that Lukashenko is “allied” not to the detriment of his interests. Such wars are always a clash of interests of the elites of states, and not of the common people, this also applies to Belarus. And you are already raising a cry - "Offended Old Man!" Yes they share, share. They will agree and everything will calm down.
                And do not hell to expose me as a lawyer of the Russian oligarchs. I’m not going to protect them. They read through the line ... Everything, finished.
                1. Vlad 1965
                  Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 13: 27 New
                  +5
                  TRUE.
                  You do not confuse the state as such and the interests of predators, which in our state, unfortunately, are considerable.
                  And the ELITE is "elite" discord, if for you all sorts of Kerim, Chubais, Dvorkovich and other "elite", then for me scum, those because of which we live worse in our country than in Belarus on very many issues .
                  I read carefully, and since you have thoughts running ahead of the realization that you are writing, I have nothing to do with it.
                  Encounter with the dvorkoviches who "defend" your interests, perhaps you will survive.
                2. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 30 August 2013 16: 54 New
                  +3
                  Quote: huut
                  Truth? But what about economic wars with this very state?

                  I remember a story when, under a loan for Belarus, the Russian Federation demanded to start the process of privatization of Belarusian enterprises - what if, if not extortion in the interests of the Russian oligarchy?
                  1. CTEPX
                    CTEPX 30 August 2013 18: 58 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Yarosvet
                    RF demanded

                    Quote: Yarosvet
                    in the interests of the Russian oligarchy?

                    Do not replace the interests of officials purchased by the interests of Russia and Belarus)).
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                      1. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 30 August 2013 20: 42 New
                        +1
                        Quote: STERKH

                        Do not substitute interests ...

                        Where did I change anything?

              2. evil hamster
                evil hamster 30 August 2013 14: 54 New
                -3
                Quote: Vlad 1965
                OVER whom ???
                OVER his only ally for the sake of the pocket of the oligarch KERIMOV, has he already thrown off your bounty, thirty, that you are so worried about him and his accomplices ??

                My dear, tell us how this closest ally supported us in the conflict on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX - well, has Abkhazia already been recognized there with South Ossetia? AND? Not? Why is it that the people are brotherly or not?
                Kamrad huut expressed a very interesting idea about getting rid of idealism.
                Quote: Vlad 1965
                Do we actually have a Union State with Belarus, are you not up to date ??
                Nobody is talking about this, since please for the fraternity, please be kind to receive a credit at the nuclear power plant, and as soon as it was necessary to support Russia purely symbolically in difficult times, did the oppa and the Old Man come down - the union state saying? og og full length.
                1. Vlad 1965
                  Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 15: 10 New
                  +4
                  evil hamster
                  Oh, little hamster, and even angry, what are you talking about?
                  Credit to the nuclear power plant, oh her, and what is it, from your pocket?
                  So you, personally, bam, took a credit card and gave it to Belarus? NO?
                  Well then, do not shout so loudly about credit cards, especially when there are two objects of strategic importance in Belarus, without a penny for paying for them.
                  1. evil hamster
                    evil hamster 30 August 2013 15: 24 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Vlad 1965
                    Oh, little hamster, and even angry, what are you talking about?
                    Mdya, not only that Vlad, but also with a lack of imagination, so what are you talking about?
                    Quote: Vlad 1965
                    Credit to the nuclear power plant, oh her, and what is it, from your pocket?
                    Oh, and Onishchenko banned your dairy products?
                    Quote: Vlad 1965
                    So you, personally, bam, took a credit card and gave it to Belarus? NO?
                    So, bam and personally your dairy business is banned? NO?
                    Quote: Vlad 1965
                    Well then, do not shout so loudly about credit cards, especially when there are two objects of strategic importance in Belarus, without a penny for paying for them.
                    Well then, do not shout so loudly about Belarus, Onishchenko and the oligarchs, especially when they did not support us in 8.8.8
                    1. Vlad 1965
                      Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 15: 32 New
                      +2
                      Khoyachka, why are you so clearly showing your stupidity? Did your second colleague, by rubbish, authorized nonsense here? Well, rejoice, write, to me what is from your hamster cries?
                      We take the milk production of BELARUS, any housewife will say, qualitatively, deliciously useful, if yours gives you a powder surrogate, maybe that’s why you are so short-sighted? Or, by the same token, it didn’t reach you that the actual production of milk was killed, all kinds of baum and other silent bloodsuckers?
                      Hurray, kvass gas cry on the shores for the very narrow-growing undergrowths of the 1990 sample and the Fursenkov spill.
                      Thanks to BELARUS, the ZTVD is also covered by Russia and is covered from this direction, so drink milk with powder or other non-natural elements, but don’t write me any more stupid things.
                      1. evil hamster
                        evil hamster 30 August 2013 15: 56 New
                        -2
                        Quote: Vlad 1965
                        Khoyachok, why are you so clearly showing your stupidity? Did your second colleague, by rubbish, authorized here to crap all sorts of nonsense?
                        ... colleague? hmm ... authorized? You see, this is a forum; no authority is required to write thoughts here. You write here!
                        Quote: Vlad 1965
                        Well, rejoice, write, to me what is from your hamster cries?
                        Here it’s the matter if my “cries” do not touch you, but you still answer, there’s only one conclusion: either they hurt you, excite you, provoke you, etc. (you’ll pick the right one), or you have a serious nervous breakdown and you need urgently go to the doctor until it goes into the chronic stage. So what's your option?
                        Quote: Vlad 1965
                        We take the milk production of BELARUS, any housewife will say, qualitatively, deliciously useful
                        These are all just general words, Belarusian dairy products are of different quality, however, like Russian.
                        Quote: Vlad 1965
                        Or, by virtue of this, didn’t it reach you, the true production of milk was killed, by all sorts of Baum and other silent blood-sucking kerim?
                        And you can prove it, share some sort of comparative analysis of the development of the Russian and Belarusian dairy industries over the past ten years. Well, so that we immediately believe in your faith?
                        Quote: Vlad 1965
                        ZTVD, thanks to BELARUS, is secured and Russia is covered from this direction
                        Is it covered? What is this? Please tell me about the wise husband. Especially in light of the recent decommissioning of all Su-27s and the sale of Su-24s to the Belarussian Air Force. Well, a plush bombardment for one. And also please justify why would Old Man in the case of a real boom not jump off the topic, as he jumped in 2008, when I noticed he was not in danger at all ???
                      2. Vlad 1965
                        Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 15: 58 New
                        +3
                        Just sent one to an emergency, for stupidity, you strive there too?
                      3. evil hamster
                        evil hamster 30 August 2013 16: 21 New
                        -1
                        You would not be dishonored, ridiculously honest word.
                    2. Vlad 1965
                      Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 16: 01 New
                      +4
                      Read the negligent student- “By the beginning of May 2013, there were 3 million 586 thousand cows in agricultural enterprises of the Russian Federation. Compared to last year, we are seeing a decrease in the number of cows by 2,5%. Negative dynamics were noted in all districts with the exception of one in the North In the Caucasus Federal District, the current year’s indicator is 5% higher than at the beginning of May last year and amounts to 155 thousand heads.In the Volga and Central districts, where 55% of the total number of cows is concentrated, we observe a decrease in the indicator for the year by 2% in each - to 1 million 146 thousand heads and 833 thousand heads, respectively. Also, the number of cows in agricultural enterprises of the Ural Federal District decreased by 2% to 226 thousand heads. In the Far Eastern Federal District by May 1 of this year, the number of cows has decreased by only 0,1 %. The most noticeable rate of decline was noted in three districts: in the Southern and North-Western districts, livestock decreased by 6% over the year, and in the Siberian Federal District - by 4%.
                    3. Vlad 1965
                      Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 16: 03 New
                      +3
                      In addition, read and learn, if you are not able to do this, the evil hamster, fire me my hysteria- "Following the reduction in the number of livestock, we also see a decrease in milk production in agricultural enterprises. From January to April, 4 million 570 thousand tons of milk were produced , which is 6% lower than last year for the same period. April last year is 7% lower than a year earlier in the same month. The total indicator of the first four months of this year is higher than last year's analogue in only two, the smallest in terms of production, districts - the Siberian Federal District by 2% (up to 106,3 thousand tons) and the Far Eastern Federal District by 3% (up to 44,5 thousand tons). In the rest, negative dynamics were recorded at the level of 3-12%. The most noticeable rate of decline in milk production Compared to last year, it was recorded in the Siberian Federal District, where production decreased from 751 thousand tons in January-April 2012 to 665 thousand tons in January-April 2013, which is 12%.
                    4. evil hamster
                      evil hamster 30 August 2013 16: 20 New
                      -1
                      You have the cutest hysteria. So where is the ditch then? Or are you really trying to prove this over a period of 3 months? yes you are the original.
                  2. evil hamster
                    evil hamster 30 August 2013 16: 16 New
                    +1
                    http://news.d2d.ru/news/newsmilk/1799-proizvodstvo-moloka-v-rossii-v-2012-godu.h
                    tml
                    Milk production is approximately at the same level of 31-33 ml.t. year since 2001, while the herd is really declining. Well, this is half the picture, how is it in Belarus? The herd is growing? Is production growing?

                    PS. Well, how's it going with the "closure" then? Will there be constructive thoughts?
        2. Minsk
          Minsk 30 August 2013 19: 13 New
          +2
          08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. If Belarus recognized Abkhazia and South Ossetia, then Kosovo would have to be recognized.
          1. evil hamster
            evil hamster 30 August 2013 19: 25 New
            0
            Is it unconvincing that Russia recognized Kosovo? no. And this prevented us from recognizing Obkhazia and Yu. O Setia? No. So what is the problem for our fraternal state (it’s not irony if Che, I think so) to stand on a par with us when we need it? Or, what of the tabochka in the rose?
  • AK-47
    AK-47 30 August 2013 10: 54 New
    -5
    Lucanomics is bursting at the seams, prices are rising for everything and constantly, modernization has failed, the business with solvents is closed, Russia is in the WTO, 90% of goods from the Republic of Belarus are not competitive in the world market and in Russia. In this situation, a scandal is needed - it is necessary to somehow explain to the people what the reason is and who is to blame. Russia is best suited for this purpose, the “fas” command has been given, the propaganda machine has been launched.
    1. Vlad 1965
      Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 11: 18 New
      +6
      AK-47
      Ay ah, you are not a member of the Belarusian orangespell, yelling about "lukanomika"?
      90% of the goods are not competitively capable? Oh, she didn’t have to rotate bags, but buy socks from Korea and China that are rotten for one day, synthetically-based and rejoice - they are very competitively capable of being cheap to disgrace.
      You have already been given the FAS command in a subtle way, there are many grant-eaters there who are bubbling all sorts of nonsense about their (their) country.
      A scandal to explain to the people, Eka got it, so the people understood why the thief was in Turm, but the orange bell strumming in vain didn’t understand anything.
      1. AK-47
        AK-47 30 August 2013 11: 33 New
        -6
        Quote: Vlad 1965
        Ay ah, you by chance ...

        Blessed is he who believes, but faith blinds.
        1. Vlad 1965
          Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 11: 40 New
          +4
          AK-47 BY
          Your belief in the "dazzling virtues of the kapmodel" has truly blinded you.
          Stat data, just data on the real attitude of the people of Belarus to their President, enough friends and acquaintances in the republic are enough to immediately understand where your ears grow from, at least your stupid boltology.
    2. goldfinger
      goldfinger 30 August 2013 12: 21 New
      +5
      Typical "bulbash troll-grantosos". Rather, a mercenary of some kind of svyadomag. 90% of the goods are non-competitive - this alone gives the six, and its moronism. Further and not worth messing around.
      1. Vlad 1965
        Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 12: 24 New
        +2
        You are right, there is a definition about such- "LGM-liberalism of the brain is punished by separation of the appendix from the body, in connection with the complete decomposition of the appendix contents"
      2. tverskoi77
        tverskoi77 30 August 2013 12: 28 New
        -1
        Typical "Bulbash Troll Grantosos"

        why bulbashny? - Kremlin.
        1. Vlad 1965
          Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 12: 46 New
          +1

          tverskoi77 RU
          The site does not welcome links to another resource, but for example, in Maxspark, dial Sergey Ryzhov, read, rate, I’ll say right away, this guy on a grant lives in GOMEL.
      3. baltika-18
        baltika-18 30 August 2013 13: 22 New
        +5
        Quote: goldfinger
        Rather, a mercenary of some kind of svyadomag. 90% of the goods are non-competitive - this alone gives the six, and its moronism. Further and not worth messing around.

        I’ll support you, bros. In our business, once a week they bring meat and sausage products from Belarus, a line is drawn up, they are sorted out. But textiles are generally in deadly demand, and this is in our Ivanovo Region. Almost everything has ended.
  • satellite
    satellite 30 August 2013 10: 56 New
    +9
    Well done Belarusians showed these jackals who is in charge of the house, they wanted to squeeze the protein out of you, and Onishchenko only fulfills someone’s order. Send Karimov to Belarus. At the expense of Belarusian products, it is an order of magnitude higher in quality than domestic products, and how disgusting to look at Onishchenko’s undisguised insanity.
    1. alone
      alone 30 August 2013 11: 24 New
      +5
      Onishchenko is doing what he is being ordered to. He is simply following orders.
  • Yoke
    Yoke 30 August 2013 11: 45 New
    +9
    it's just enchanting. not only that our dairy products (for the most part) are not able to compete in quality with Belarusian products (they have preserved GOSTs, and BGOOSTs have been added in addition), so I generally will not say anything about prices. For a liter of milk to cost 50 rubles, I don’t know what to do with it ... Altai virgins are they pushing him into the full moon! But Onishchenko is simply incompetent and, in my opinion, a long and deeply mentally unhealthy person.
  • Mosen6Ish
    Mosen6Ish 30 August 2013 11: 58 New
    +3
    Quote: Kovrovsky
    "... Only in the Moscow region for the last time from 240 samples of food products of the Republic of Belarus, studied in the laboratories of Rospotrebnadzor, 72 sample (30%) did not meet the requirements for quality and safety indicators.


    Those. suddenly discovered or are we constantly "eating" this?
    And why is this department needed? Show goat?
  • dld35057
    dld35057 30 August 2013 12: 03 New
    +4
    It’s good that we sold the Friendship pipe to you. And then they had to repair themselves.
    1. Max otto
      Max otto 30 August 2013 19: 13 New
      +3
      Only they did not sell it, but we squeezed it. Only 2 Belarusian oil refineries, which do not breed gasoline with donkey urine, from such a large Russia, are inevitable competition. Dairy plants have defended, let’s hope Belkali is also left behind. Russians, thanks for your understanding, it’s very flattering to read your reviews. I am not against normal businessmen and healthy competition, I am against raiding.
  • berimor
    berimor 30 August 2013 12: 09 New
    10
    Found and intermediate guilty: Ukrainians put pipes of poor quality.
    Well, of course, again, the "nevist got into it." And where was the acceptance committee !? I have worked on the floor of my military service in a similar system and I know that at least an express analysis should be carried out upon acceptance. And the candies suddenly became poisonous and milk and cheese are not dairy. And this is called blackmail !!! And after all this, join the TS ?! Russia wants normal partnerships, but only in its favor! I always took the side of Russia in the dispute with Ukraine (also a lot of rednecks), although I live in Kiev, but now I see (not only me, but most of my once pro-Russian friends and acquaintances) that Russia, or rather it ruling clans cannot build relations on an equal footing, well, few of them, it is necessary to bring all neighbors to their knees. Well, the president of Ukraine in this situation made an unambiguous decision and gave the order for unconditional integration with the EU (of course, to my great regret), but you can’t be rude to your neighbors (as you say "to the fraternal people"). Blackmail has never brought anything good in a relationship !!!
    1. Vlad 1965
      Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 12: 45 New
      -2
      Not blackmail.
      And the frank, pragmatic view of things, as you elegantly put it, is “a whistle has lied”, so it’s as if it has lied, face to the West with claims to RUSSIA.
      . Wanted to evaluate what the EU is?
      Forward, who interferes, however, do not forget that the products of UKRAINE, the West, need, only in the form of raw materials, not even the first redistribution, but labor.
      Where did UKRAINE send its products in 90% of cases?
      THE MARKET OF RUSSIA, KAZAKHSTAN, BELARUS, do you need the goods of UKRAINE IN THE WEST-NO, your shaft, why do they need competitors?
      POLITbomond of Ukraine, you are believed like a crackl in a frying pan, for the sake of your interests, not yours, but your own, do you wish in the EU?
      Blow, but after that non-frivolous daughter-in-law, do not say that you were not warned about the consequences of such a step, impoverishment and ruin are provided to you.
      1. berimor
        berimor 30 August 2013 14: 08 New
        10
        Yes, I wanted it before (by the way, in the EU today it is not very desirable), but seeing how Russia breaks out the hands of its TS colleagues, something "WANT" is getting smaller and smaller! Moreover, Russia's economic "successes" are also in full view! The oligarchic power of Russia (by the way, no less scummy and greedy if not more than Ukrainian) itself is pushing Ukraine into the arms of the EU! And look at the statements of your political scientists and some pro-government officials regarding the borders. This is a balm for Bandera. So what Russia is doing now is a real blackmail.
        You can minus one hundred times, but more and more people (and not only Ukrainians) living in Ukraine think so !!!
        1. Vlad 1965
          Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 14: 15 New
          -4
          I do not justify bloodsucking on the Russian side, but you in Ukraine, artificially and persistently because of the failure of the failure of all your body movements, the so-called elite, hammered into the head that Russia is alleged to be guilty of everything.
          The current hysteria with Belarus, the detention of thieves there, from the same series, exactly-RUSSIA, against the war in Syria, get a showdown between yours. You do not catch interdependence 7
          I don’t agree with the fact that more Ukrainians think so.
          If you wish a road to the EU-tablecloth, do not forget the heifer over the sea, the rupe transported. By the way, your traders have already understood this.
          1. Corneli
            Corneli 30 August 2013 15: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: Vlad 1965
            The current hysteria with Belarus, the detention of thieves there, from the same series, exactly-RUSSIA, against the war in Syria, get a showdown between yours. You do not catch interdependence 7

            Do not understand. In your opinion, SOMEONE of your opponents was bought by the West? And who exactly? Lukashenko? Or Onishchenko with the deputies of the Russian president?
            Hey me, you lied Malekho))))
            1. Vlad 1965
              Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 15: 38 New
              0
              Well, brother, you have it in UKRAINE, every first in the elitists, was bought in the WEST, why aren’t you worried about NENU?
              We, we have the same, but also, 90 seeds, gave their poisonous seedlings.
              Do you think that there are no Western apologists inside the Russian political pantpticum?
              Yes, completeness, pretend that they are not.
              A certain Andryusha Drevlyanko, or whatever it was, LOPATOV wrote that he imagines for the union of industrialists that he blundered supposedly we’ll buy everything in the EU, so who is he? What forces does he represent?
              1. Corneli
                Corneli 30 August 2013 16: 45 New
                0
                Quote: Vlad 1965
                Well, brother, you have something in UKRAINE

                My dear, do not pour me about Ukraine, but please answer the question!
      2. Nike
        Nike 30 August 2013 15: 42 New
        +7
        What will happen to Ukraine is not your concern, but the example with Belarus is far from in favor of the CU.
        1. Vlad 1965
          Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 15: 47 New
          -6
          At home in the UNION, we will figure it out, but you, with what and how you remain incomprehensible, more precisely, it is clear, on beans, as always.
  • tverskoi77
    tverskoi77 30 August 2013 12: 22 New
    +4
    Well done, Lukashenko! It protects its interests even when it fights off and has nothing to withstand in any way. I envy the Belarusians for good, they have a future.
    Well, our government has revealed its true face: as it was under Yeltsin, when the aligarhat taxied and now the same thing. Only the names of Berezovsky ... were replaced by others and the people showed a play called "Khodorkovsky".
  • Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 30 August 2013 12: 25 New
    +5
    Comrade Onishchenko has nothing to do with it. He is a performer, albeit not always of goodwill, but a performer. Such is needed of all, the main thing is that orders would come from wise rulers. And if he is in the hands of the mediocre, then troubles can do considerable.
  • Lone gunman
    Lone gunman 30 August 2013 12: 30 New
    +2
    yes ... if we talk about the people of Russia, then 80% think I think Lukashenko is right, oligarchs can argue with which countries are right and who is to blame. You have to do something about this, or Putin has always little authority Aligarhya ...
  • Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 30 August 2013 13: 06 New
    +4
    It seems to me that the following quote is most plausible. And the fanfare of the Old Man, the curses of Onishchenko are our emotions that arise from a lack of information. And no one will tell the truth, such money is shared.
    "... the current conflict between Belaruskali and the BKK is unlikely to be caused by tension in Belarusian-Russian relations, but is only a local clash in the western section of the Russian war of clans over the redistribution of property. Given that Minsk, in this case, is apparently acting against Medvedev, not only with Putin’s sanction, but also in the business interests of his closest protege Sechin, the risk for Belarus is extremely moderate. "
  • pensioner
    pensioner 30 August 2013 13: 13 New
    +1
    Onishchenko got excited. Well that's it ... Wait for palm oil in the Belarusians and MAZs ...
  • Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 30 August 2013 13: 20 New
    +6
    Onishchenko declared another "war" of Belarus.
    And again "milk".
    For what? For the fight against Russian corruption. What !!!
    Not him personally, of course, but those above him.
    How embarrassing I am for our politicians.
    I can no longer see their faces.
    Where is the guarantor, damn it ?? Silent again ...
    Stop this insanity immediately, do not disgrace!
  • Tamerlanf1
    Tamerlanf1 30 August 2013 14: 06 New
    +3
    Yes, you take at least all these thief oligarchs, Mr. Lukashenko, we do not mind them!
  • Ryzhikov
    Ryzhikov 30 August 2013 14: 29 New
    +3
    Quote: patline
    These Moscow liberoid oligarchs poison and poison Old Man. Poison with the help of the pipeline, with the help of Onishchenko. They do not care about the relations of peoples, which they can spoil for the sake of their damn assets.
    My opinion is that if the huckster is guilty, let him sit. This should determine a fair trial. And there is nothing to apply double standards like Euromerikosy. Guilty - answer according to the law.
    In turn, as a sign of solidarity with Belarus, I will specifically search for Belarusian products in stores and buy them in particular in solidarity.

    hi I completely agree with you. Everyone knows how in Russia courts relate to THESE people from high spheres. The Old Man will not allow this. soldier
  • kafa
    kafa 30 August 2013 14: 31 New
    +5
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    No against Onishchenko, even the devil himself is powerless laughing

    for even the devil has a mind more developed and sophisticated in the meannesses of forgeries of intrigue, etc., etc. hi
  • skullcap
    skullcap 30 August 2013 15: 52 New
    +3
    Quote: Ascetic
    here now they will squeal on Echo and Rain with other handshakes that in the dungeons of the Belarusian KGB they torture a person with the simple Russian surname Baumgartner

    Yes ... as it were, Grigorich was not yet accused of anti-Semitism
    1. Vlad 1965
      Vlad 1965 30 August 2013 15: 56 New
      0
      So already accused, that here, in this article, that on TV, and all sorts of Ehah, do not understand what rain ...
  • Vorkot cat
    Vorkot cat 30 August 2013 16: 14 New
    +6
    "Belarusian microbes"

    I neighing, I almost fell off the chair. laughing
    Onishchenko zhzhot
  • Vitmir
    Vitmir 30 August 2013 16: 16 New
    +8
    I am glad to the number of comments made by sane people who understand the difference between an oligarch and a decent person, between a thief, who definitely has to be in prison, and a businessman. Regardless of citizenship and nationality, as it was in the USSR.

    Cheered by the presence of "experts" from some Russian Zatrukhinsk, such as Vlad 1965 and smile, imagining themselves experts in the politics of Moscow and Minsk, they read Putin and Lukashenko's thoughts and "wisely" link kings and cabbage, that is potassium and Syria.

    I am surprised by those who consider lawlessness, wild capitalism and corruption, the shameless weaning of someone else's already generated in Russia in the dashing 1990s to be the norm.
    There are a lot of minerals in Russia, and few in Belarus. We don’t need someone else’s, we won’t give our own for “so”.
    Well, we grabbed the tail of a scammer who inflicted major harm with an original Russian surname on weighty charges, it’s high time, but were you weak in Russia?

    PS Onishchenko for soap!
    1. smile
      smile 30 August 2013 20: 31 New
      0
      Vitmir
      Regardless of the rest of the text, please explain your phrase:
      Quote:
      "... smile, imagining themselves experts in the politics of Moscow and Minsk, they read the thoughts of Putin and Lukashenko and" wisely "link kings and cabbage, that is, potassium and Syria."
      end of quote.

      The fact is that every word you say about me is a lie. Moreover, the obvious lie - all my comments are in place - they can be easily found. Question. Why are you lying? Give a quote from my statements. Where I am:
      1. declared himself an expert in the politics of Moscow and Minsk.
      2. I read the thoughts of Lukashenko and Putin. Or at least I know. what drives them.
      3. Bound potassium and Syria.
      I repeat, why are you lying? Because pathologically, you can’t tell the truth, or without lies you have nothing to present? :)))
    2. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 31 August 2013 12: 37 New
      -1
      VitMir BY
      Indeed, the sane people understood the difference between the people you indicated, you do not, do not understand.
      Amusement is such an intellectualization of some who think of themselves as docks in all matters.
      Talk about potassium cabbage?
      You dare to say that for Belarus, potassium is essentially not the same as oil for Russia?
      Do you dare to assert that people, a priori, are so sternly “ridiculed” by you as stupid than you?
      Well, what do you say on the subject of a certain ZHILIN?
      And, apparently, nothing, because you will not look very good, if you allow yourself to write frank nonsense.
      90 speak?
      So, using your terminology from some kind of Belarusian place like Shaggy-Zakhlyupinsk, didn’t the difference be made, that one directly indicates the cause of the misfortune, just like the war of the oligarchs, against the union state, and the second confuses the interests of the oligarchs with the protection of the interests of Russia? Once again, according to the comments go through.
      The last point, your longest comment, is the only one, sound.
      And the last, smile, the poor fellow, having received not a frail shit, fell into a cry, but his opponent sensibly, sensibly, stopped this squabble, apparently just draining the smile into what is called the Black Crypt for talkers.
      1. smile
        smile 2 September 2013 01: 22 New
        0
        vladkavkaz
        Sorry, but if you read my controversy with Vlad 1965, then how can you say that I was "screaming" ... :))) this is, to put it mildly, not true .... :))))
        Take my word for it, I was calm like a tank .... slightly ulcerated ... no more ... to be honest, I think that you mixed up the nicknames ... after all, right?
        1. vladkavkaz
          vladkavkaz 2 September 2013 12: 25 New
          -2
          smile (2)
          So let's SIGN and shouted what you are the greatest here, and supposedly something out of yourself is the best and most powerful of all.
          The tone with which you conducted your discussion does not really color you.
          Argumentation, I'm sorry, but you have ZERO, more and more emotion, and as you know, emotion is not a fact.
          Nevertheless, even in this case, the opinion that VitMir BY has issued, in relation to both, is, to put it mildly, rubbish.
          Of course, you have the right to your point of view, but the mistake has been pointed out to you, albeit somewhat rudely, but it is, you are mistaken in your thoughts when you try to expose the oligarchy as "defenders" of the people ", this is absolutely not so.
          Ask how Kerimov got a piece of business in potassium in Russia, from whom, for what pennies, where Rybolovlev now lives, and what is generally called all this.
          There is no shadow of protection for you, there is only care about your pocket.
  • nazgul-ishe
    nazgul-ishe 30 August 2013 16: 57 New
    +1
    With Onishchenko and the investor, clearly, one fulfills his PIECE, the other is used to democracy. If Baumgertner is guilty, then let everyone pay a fine of 300 rubles. Why should they scoff at the “man”, because he didn’t stole a bag of potatoes. Old Man is fierce.
  • pensioner
    pensioner 30 August 2013 17: 06 New
    +3
    Glory to Onishchenko!
    The Russian Orthodox Church is simply obliged to canonize him.
    with media ...
  • Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 30 August 2013 17: 23 New
    +2
    ______________________________________________
  • My address
    My address 30 August 2013 17: 45 New
    +2
    I do not believe our oligarchs. Many reasons for this.
    In vain began to grab with the Belarusians. Especially everyones onishchinkami. It's like a family to understand on the landing for fun neighbors.
  • Aristarch
    Aristarch 30 August 2013 18: 28 New
    +5
    Well said))) And after all, this strategy works.

    "" "In response to the arrest of Mr. Baumgertner in Belarus, the Kremlin’s geopolitical ideologists made two predictable moves at once. The media already reported on the unpleasant finds of the chief physician of the Russian Federation Onishchenko in Belarusian products, and also that the fraternal oil pipeline Druzhba suddenly wore it needs to be replaced by seven hundred kilometers of pipes, and it is completely unclear when the repair will be completed.
  • QWERTY
    QWERTY 30 August 2013 19: 49 New
    -2
    What is incomprehensible here? The entire Belarusian economic miracle is based on Russian loans. Of course, it is necessary to repay them, but then maybe. Old Man, I don’t argue, in terms of managing his state ... would you just have been without OUR money with him? I understand your pan-Slavic desires but their entire economy is tied to free money from Russia. It’s also a great ally ... and half of the country are migrant workers in Russia. Of course, better than Asians. But the wages are higher. Conditions are heavenly. Three months without registration. No one dreamed. And the Old Man will never enter the Russian Federation, will anyone lose the power to hunt? He will drink blood, so brotherly, a little bit.
    1. vjhbc
      vjhbc 31 August 2013 10: 30 New
      +2
      it would be nice if you were the president of Russia, you would close the border so that Belarus would not crawl to work for you, and God forbid, a milk can not bring you loans, we wouldn’t get any other YOUR money, and all OTHER that we are there they ate you and now we would lay down our paws folded and die to please you and the whole Russian people would finally breathe freely, they would live richly and happily, and finally, under your brilliant leadership, they threw Belorusskaya off themselves YOKE
      Quote: ytsuken
      What is incomprehensible here? The entire Belarusian economic miracle is based on Russian loans. Of course, it is necessary to repay them, but then maybe. Old Man, I don’t argue, in terms of managing his state ... would you just have been without OUR money with him? I understand your pan-Slavic desires but their entire economy is tied to free money from Russia. It’s also a great ally ... and half of the country are migrant workers in Russia. Of course, better than Asians. But the wages are higher. Conditions are heavenly. Three months without registration. No one dreamed. And the Old Man will never enter the Russian Federation, will anyone lose the power to hunt? He will drink blood, so brotherly, a little bit.
  • manch2005
    manch2005 30 August 2013 22: 06 New
    +6
    if Russia speaks with everyone from a position of strength and ultimatums, then who wants to alliance with it?
    bad example for Ukraine and Kazakhstan!
  • nonamed
    nonamed 31 August 2013 00: 57 New
    +3
    View from Ukraine:
    I watched Russian news (in particular, Russia 24 TV channel). I read the Belarusian Internet media (to which links were given above).
    Hysteria, as some have expressed here, is just present in the Russian media. This topic is discussed even more intensively than a possible invasion of Syria (which generally threatens a global conflict). And it’s not clear why such a hype and what is the basis for the “immediately release” statements, if, as I understand it, this native Russian “Ivan” Baumgertner was detained without violating any laws, international norms or human rights.
    Everything has been done within the appropriate framework, but the fact that certain circles "don’t like" it is not a reason to "immediately release" everyone. What are we, also, at the direction of the EU, to “immediately release” Yulia Tymoshenko now (I remember, by the way, she was somehow brought into the Russian Federation, filed on the international wanted list, but she was saved only by the fact that she was an untouchable MP in Ukraine).
    I would like to see how the Russian authorities would react if, for example, then she was arrested on the territory of the Russian Federation, and Ukraine would demand an “immediate release” of the arrestee.
    In this regard, Jan’s well done - he doesn’t bend under Europe, Yulka has the place in the zone, I still remember the times when she was the Minister of Energy - they sat 12 hours a day without electricity “in order to save”.
    And Lukashenko is not a blunder - I think if the person involved were innocent - they would have let go. Well, if guilty - so with what rage to let him out?
    And yes, the "milk-candy-gas wars" Russia (or rather the Russian leadership) does not paint. Given the fact that only today Yanukovych said that in Ukraine there will be a referendum - to steer in the EU or in the CU.
    1. artem772
      artem772 31 August 2013 14: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: nonamed
      Given the fact that only today Yanukovych said that in Ukraine there will be a referendum - to steer in the EU or in the CU.

      You misunderstood Yanyka, do not be fooled by yourself and others. He said that a referendum would really be needed to join the EU or the CU. But both of these issues are not on the agenda. Now we are talking about associate membership in the EU and the FTZ, which does not require a referendum. If this referendum occurs, then in 10 years, if Ukraine "ripens" for full EU membership.
  • nazgul-ishe
    nazgul-ishe 31 August 2013 03: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: ytsuken

    QWERTY

    Yesterday, 19: 49

    What is incomprehensible here? All Belarusian economic miracle is based on Russian loans

    So after all, they do not plunder them but invest in production.
  • beifall
    beifall 31 August 2013 05: 40 New
    -4
    They will not survive without Russian help! From January 1 to August 1, 2012 all sorts of assistance to Russia in Belarus amounted to 8 billion dollars!
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