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More and win the information war!

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Today, when materials about the readiness of Western countries to attack Syria appear one after another in our media, you involuntarily recall other materials that appeared there quite recently and, accordingly, comments to them. Let me remind you that these materials were devoted to the supply of Russian C-300 missiles to the Syrian government. And ... the joys of many of our compatriots simply had no limits, which they directly communicated in social networks: “Well, now we will show them!”


More and win the information war!


Meanwhile, it is obvious that the time is now when only missiles — even very good ones — are, alas, not enough, but for a decisive victory something else is needed! What exactly? Well, for example, skillful management of public opinion, without which even the best rocket may be out of business. And are our respective services ready to wage such wars and — most importantly, how are such modern information wars conducted?

To be able to use information - be it data on the number of enemy troops or a message received from secret spies that an enemy commander, say, fears spiders to death - has always meant a great deal. And numerous press speculations around C-300 can also be viewed as part of the information war. And the war is conducted very skillfully. But are we skillfully waging information wars or not?

Experience shows that it’s not very, and it’s enough to read old Russian newspapers to see this. Well, for example, we launched it in Russia on the water in 1871 - 1875. two round battleships - “popovki”, named after their creator, Vice Admiral A.A. Popov and they were very specific ships, and it was necessary to understand! However, no one else, namely, our Russian press attacked them with the most indiscriminate criticism, so that at that time they were not writing just “lazy” ones. As a result, the authorities received a slap in the face, and the press continued to torment it at all levels, and not so much the opposition — well, let's say the Bolsheviks and the Social Revolutionaries, but its own, state, existing, so to speak, by the will of those in power. So on the same page it was written about the sovereign-emperor as about the Leader, but then there was material about the trial of the generals who surrendered Port Arthur and the Japanese who surrendered to Tsushima, and what even some of our citizens could think about such a king, who made all this happen? The “mistakes” (and most likely these were not mistakes!) Of the Russian press led to the fact that Nicholas II, in the first three years of World War I, turned from the “white king” - the epic hero, leading the people to the universal battle with “ Teutons "- in the" king-fool "," drunk "and" traitor ". As a result, the authorities refused to use the images of the emperor and his family for patriotic propaganda. That is, the “media” war by the Russian monarchy was lost long before February 1917 of the year!

And now let us recall the words of A.S. Pushkin from his immortal tragedy “Boris Godunov” - than was the Pretender strong? “Not by army, no, not by Polish help. And opinion; Yes! By the opinion of the people. ”But the press didn’t deprive the king of a good opinion and as a result (although only the press, of course, nothing to do with it!) What happened happened.

However, if you think that the red commissioners have learned a lesson from this, then you are cruelly mistaken! No, leading again a brutal information war for the world revolution in the minds of the popular masses, they allowed in their own press well, simply outrageous bloopers, which, again, clever and experienced people could not be allowed in any way. For example, if in the editorials of the newspaper “Pravda” it was written how badly “there” lives and how the workers in the same US starve, then on the fourth page, in the section “News science and technology "it was reported that ... there was opened an" automatic plant with conditioned air, shadowless light and other amenities for workers! "Even worse were political articles from eyewitness journalists who ... yes, the same were criticized by the United States, but at the same time wrote them such that it simply could not but envy and ... anger! Envy to those who have it all now, and not somewhere in the “bright tomorrow”, but hate for those who already had it, even if it was only a few!

Further more! The war in Spain began and our newspapers began to report on ... Republican victories! Those constantly smashing the superior forces of the enemy, seized trophies and ... retreated, retreated, retreated! To beat - beat, trophies captured, but receded !!! Well, the funny thing is the message in the same “Pravda” that Marshal Tukhachevsky was the son of a peasant, and then three months later, after his arrest, that he was ... the son of a landowner! As if people had no memory!

Similarly, if not worse, the situation was during the war, but this topic is so extensive that it requires a separate article, but here you can say that well, then it was impossible to write then the way it was written. And again, it is surprising that neither journalists understood this, nor Stalin himself obviously did not understand!
As a result, only at the beginning of 50 in the city of Kuibyshev there were more than 15 people who thought and spoke about it out loud that the Soviet policy in the Korean conflict was diametrically opposite to what all Soviet newspapers wrote about! So among those arrested were 65-year-old pensioner Valery Slushkin, and 36-year-old collective farmer Bari Khasanov, and 35-year-old artist of the Novokuibyshevsky Palace of Culture Pyotr Zhelyatsky and many, many others. All of them, because of their political ignorance, went to camps for a period of four to six years. And this data is only for one area. But how many people thought exactly the same, just did not chat? Well, and then it was all the same, including the message of the Soviet government that "an unknown plane went to the side of the sea," although in fact it had long been lying at the bottom! That is, it is obvious that in the past Soviet propaganda did not know how to wage information wars, but whether our Russian propaganda acquired such experience in recent years is how to look at it. On the one hand, it seems like “yes”, but on the other hand, we constantly have no money for anything!

We will not say now whether the regime established in the USSR from 1917 to 1991 was good or bad for the year, the main thing is that it was established and had a corresponding ideology. Consequently, the state was supposed to strengthen it. And not only (and not even so much!) At the expense of repressive bodies, but at the expense of skillfully disseminated information. And what was ours? Instead of one, a single stream of information striking into one goal, we had three ... in divergent directions. One - “everything is bad there, bad, bad, the world revolution will start soon!” The second one - “that's what the technology is, what discoveries are there, how many cars were sold there!” Well, feuilletons ... there seemed to be a “critic” of the bourgeois system in them. But in fact between the lines read admiration for the standard of living! And no one, neither the editors of the newspapers, nor Stalin himself saw this and did not understand (here it is the absence of high culture and good education!) What this will lead to. That is, in a totalitarian country, the press must be completely totalitarian. Even the grains of democracy are harmful to her! But ... they did not understand, did not see, and as a result, already in 1953, a huge number of people in the country did not believe the newspapers, the government and the party. Well, then this process went on increasing. So here even the notorious “Dulles plan” was not needed. However, take a look at your leisure in the library or archive, look through the files of newspapers for 30,40,50 years and you will be terrified by the mass of inconsistencies and absurdities, just throwing them into the eyes!

However, let's go back to our rockets. They were delivered, no - again, it does not matter. It is important how much in Syria does all this get worthy, that is, advantageous to Russia, reflected in the local Arab press, on radio and on TV? That is, roughly speaking, does Russia have enough money to pay for the “good tone” of the Arab media, or is everything left to chance?

But here, for example, the missiles were set and our personnel arrived with them. But will the custom articles in the Syrian press on how well these missiles be adapted to local conditions be paid, and the experts sent with them are experts in their field? Rather, I will believe that completely different materials will appear there, that the rockets are old, that they were sent to Syria according to the principle of “God, we are not worthy,” and the specialists are so-so, because “there are no good specialists in Russia for a long time ... with such a salary! "

Further more. You can repeat the experience of the war in Spain, when one of the Spanish officers publicly stated that such a large number of Soviet officers-instructors put them, the Spaniards, in the position of a “colonized nation” and give an interview with one of these local officers. But rocket stuff is difficult, learning how to work with them is not so easy, and what will happen if local officers create such a negative attitude towards them? There is one unsuccessful launch, another ... Study ... or sabotage ... who knows? As a result: “Well, you see, we warned you!” - the journalists would immediately come back with relevant comments and in which direction would public opinion turn?
And to our specialists, as soon as they find themselves beyond the threshold of a military base, it will be possible to send recruiting agents. It is clear that they will immediately report "who needs it!" So after all on it and calculation! Here it will be possible to write in the newspapers that “there were attempts” and ... any technical problems to blame for the fact that “they did not bribe one, they bribed the other!” And again, what would the Syrian military personnel think about this, not to mention that, after all, similar methods can also be applied to him ...

Note that the forms of informational impact on society can be versatile and very effective, but it is not known how ready we are for them in the Arab East. After all, here in the same Spain, the USSR supplied and Tanks, and airplanes, and rifles, but ... the Spaniards said that all of this was not enough, the machine guns were old and “shot”, and the rifles were single-shot remingtones of 1902!

Well, and finally, a remark relating more to psychology, but related to managing people through the dissemination of information. Simple people are always impressed by the action. And any doubt is stress for them, this is excitement, and in a state of excitement, especially excessive, it is better not to work with complex technology! Sharply increases the likelihood of error. And local media again, any such mistake will inflate "against us." Or do not inflate if they are paid accordingly. And now I am very interested, are we ready to pay for it?
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  1. treskoed
    treskoed 29 August 2013 07: 53 New
    +7
    And you see this in our media! That sometimes you are surprised that there are so few "oppositionists". Freedom is freedom, but you also have to think about the country!
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 29 August 2013 08: 07 New
      10
      Meanwhile, it’s obvious that the time is now when only one missile - albeit a very good one - alas, can’t get by, but something else is needed for a decisive victory!

      Decisive action. The first to strike with the help of our aircraft at the positions of terrorists.
  2. VadimSt
    VadimSt 29 August 2013 08: 34 New
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    It’s not the media that wage the information war, they are just a tool, so everything depends on the position and desire of the state. The best help at the moment is to supply the Syrians with intelligence, as they say now - online.
  3. La hire
    La hire 29 August 2013 08: 45 New
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    Well, speaking of information war, our authorities are very successful in this. In the opposite direction, damn it. I read Yandex news, there is no Syria on the front pages at all. As for the TV channels - I will not lie, I turned on the morning news on the First Channel only at 8:32 Moscow time (beginning at 8:30), but there is nothing about Syria either, but it says about some kind of "vegetable madness" in Spain, several tourists, lost in an Austrian cave, and no one needed (judging by the empty spectator stands in Kiev) world championship in gymnastics.
    Why am I saying this: before our eyes, another world chaos is going on, committed by dogs from NATO, and they are trying to distract our consciousness from this! Evil is not enough.
    I look forward to many, many cons fellow
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 29 August 2013 11: 05 New
      +6
      Quote: La Hire
      I look forward to many, many cons

      From whom?.)))
      The media very little and sparingly illuminate the situation in Syria, with the Union this topic would not leave the front pages of the press and from the TV channels. Media sold out?
    2. kusha66
      kusha66 29 August 2013 11: 47 New
      -1
      you’re not looking there, the great Vova was silent, they leaked Syria after the others. Remember, two weeks ago, the Saudis came to Moscow, everything has a price and treason too, see the price of oil.
      1. Vlad 1965
        Vlad 1965 29 August 2013 11: 52 New
        +6
        Merged, merged, sold, howl for a long time will you be all nonsense?
        Arrogant prime minister why Putin clinked?
        And after he started yapping, then yes, yes, shall we wait?
        Enclosed about the hut, which I was hauling, I’m not me, Congress is interfering there, Saudis, and what kind of rats would it blather on Russia?
        You would be as great in politics as rat-rats from Qatar would have been dragged together, surprisingly to everyone.
  4. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 29 August 2013 09: 15 New
    0
    Quote: Santor
    You can indiscreetly question - how will she, this aircraft, get there? Have you ever looked at the map? Or do you think Georgia, Turkey or Greece will let it through its airspace? Under the USSR, it could strike from the territory of Azerbaijan or the Batumi complex, and now how, eh?

    Can. Through Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq. I doubt that there are air defense systems in Iraq or Afghanistan that can detect and, moreover, shoot down the TU-160.
    1. olviko
      olviko 29 August 2013 11: 11 New
      +1
      It’s far through Afghanistan, there is a shorter route. Armenia, the base of Gyumri, there is a good runway, Iran, Iraq, Syria. Approximately 1000 km, for the MiG-31 - 25 minutes of summer.
  5. Prometey
    Prometey 29 August 2013 09: 17 New
    +2
    I will be honest about the article - I read, I did not guess a single letter fool
  6. Brummbar
    Brummbar 29 August 2013 09: 32 New
    0
    Did they deliver the C300 or just promise?
  7. saag
    saag 29 August 2013 09: 40 New
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    Quote: GreatRussia
    Through Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq. I doubt that there are air defense systems in Iraq or Afghanistan that can detect and, moreover, shoot down the TU-160.

    And what side is Afghanistan here? And for what purposes to use the Tu-160?
  8. Humen
    Humen 29 August 2013 09: 53 New
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    Or maybe it’s just time to have normal media politics? To squeeze out in a civilized manner or how it will turn out foreigners from federal channels, to assign the status of foreign agents to other channels as well as NPOs. And to begin the promotion of our policy in the media, and not foreign.
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 29 August 2013 11: 08 New
      +5
      Quote: Humen
      Or maybe it’s just time to have normal media politics? To squeeze out in a civilized manner or how it will turn out foreigners from federal channels, to assign the status of foreign agents to other channels as well as NPOs. And to begin the promotion of our policy in the media, and not foreign.


      Good idea. Press the 5th column in the bud. And let amers chewing gum in the outhouse look.
  9. Alex66
    Alex66 29 August 2013 10: 07 New
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    "However, if you think that the red commissars learned a lesson from this, then you are cruelly mistaken! No, once again, while waging a brutal information war for the world revolution in the minds of the masses, they made outrageous blunders in their own press, which again, smart and experienced people could not be allowed in any way. "
    It seems that the propaganda department is now headed by the same commissioners. In the international arena, we do not look bad, but inside the country a feeling of complete helplessness of the corruption of power.
  10. Horde
    Horde 29 August 2013 10: 09 New
    +2
    articles about information wars, by definition, cannot be unequivocally docent Vyacheslav Shpakovsky submits information in the form of a thesis about Russia's participation in the information war in Syria, and in the form of paid articles and biased stories on tv ??? but do we need it? The war in Syria is unique in that it no longer requires any informational support, because Syria no longer has friends and Syria alone, well, maybe Iran, but no one there doubts Syria and therefore they do not need to be agitated. There is still strange the state is Russia, where the people are for Syria, but the leadership is by and large hard to understand. So we’ll give s-300, then we won’t give s-300, then we’ll give it, but later. NOTHING DEPENDS ON ANYTHING OF PUBLIC OPINION.
    I would like to go over the article by Shpakovsky. As an illustration of the strength of the information impact, the assistant professor uses historical examples. For example, the case of the construction of destroyers in the 19th century. Nnda is an old story, no one even remembers what it was there, were these boats good or not, something they might remember and were good, or maybe not. True, there is only one TsARISM and its government FAITH NO.

    Nicholas II for three years of the First World War in the eyes of the people turned from the "white king" - an epic hero, leading the people to an ecumenical battle with the "Teutons", - into a "fool king", "drunkard" and "traitor"

    now, now closer Shpakovsky will impudently substitute the concept, when it was NIKOLASHKA BLOODY was a "epic hero" "from Khodynka began Khodynka and finished" - these are not my words, but just folk.
    Farther.
    For example, if the editorials of the newspaper Pravda inscribed how poorly they live “there” and how workers in the same USA are starving, then on the fourth page, in the section “Science and Technology News”, it was reported that ... an “automatic machine with air-conditioned, shadowless light and other amenities for workers! ”


    But was it? in general, ideology in the USSR was VERY serious business and it is very doubtful to allow such mistakes, as Shpak writes.
  11. Horde
    Horde 29 August 2013 10: 10 New
    +3
    Well, the funny thing is the message in the same Pravda that Marshal Tukhachevsky was the son of a peasant, and then - three months later, after his arrest, that he ... the son of a landowner! As if people’s memory
    there was no!


    in those days, and actually even now there were a lot of "outcasts from Egypt" in power, Stalin fought these enemies of the human race as best he could, it’s a pity he didn’t get it, we wouldn’t have 91 now.
    So Tukhachevsky is credited with both "the son of a peasant" and "nobility", but in fact he was the son of GESHEFTMAKHER. Hence his dislike of the Russian people, all his hostile tendencies and a logical death.

    And what did we have? Instead of one, single stream of information striking one goal, we had three ... in diverging directions. One - "everything is bad there, bad, bad, the world revolution will begin just about!" The second - “this is what the equipment is there, these are the discoveries there, this is how much cars were sold there!” And well, feuilleton ... it seems that there was a “criticism” of the bourgeois system in them. But in fact, admiration for the standard of living was read between the lines! And no one, neither the newspaper editors, nor Stalin himself saw this and understood (here it is the lack of high culture and good education!), What it will lead to


    Well, and most importantly, what actually the assistant professor tried to do. Under Stalin, such nonsense when America was praised and scolded was NOT.
    There weren’t even in the days after the Stalin era. Such things in the Soviet press could appear only just before the collapse of the USSR, when the INTERNAL ENEMY was already, like a rat, undermining the foundations of our state, when the enemy was already inside and the leading and ideological organs of the USSR, when there were no obstacles and such vile articles began to appear in the press of the agonizing state.
    "all that was acquired by back-breaking labor three imported tape recorders, three suede jackets ..." Abram Semyonich Shpak. laughing
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 29 August 2013 11: 10 New
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      Quote: Horde
      in those days, and actually now in the power of "outcasts from Egypt" there were a lot,


      Recent research scientists say that these guys come from Khazaria.
      1. Horde
        Horde 29 August 2013 11: 41 New
        0
        Quote: Sandov
        Recent research scientists say that these guys come from Khazaria.

        Gumelev writes so bluntly, but do you know where the original Khazaria was located according to Gumelev? in the Volga delta, right in the reeds, I'm not joking. Well, and what kind of people could appear from there?
        1. Prometey
          Prometey 29 August 2013 13: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: Horde
          Gumelev writes so bluntly, but do you know where the original Khazaria was located according to Gumelev? in the Volga delta, right in the reeds, I'm not joking. Well, and what kind of people could appear from there?

          Sturgeon poachers, apparently laughing
  12. morpogr
    morpogr 29 August 2013 10: 24 New
    +4
    We must cultivate our propagandists of such a level so that Dr. Goebbels in a coffin spun with envy.
  13. andrejwz
    andrejwz 29 August 2013 10: 31 New
    +2
    The article itself, a good example of the problem discussed in it, is like: what kind of cross-eyed are we.
    1. Uruska
      Uruska 29 August 2013 12: 16 New
      +1
      The information war is very important! And in general, there should be special units for IW, as in the days of the USSR.
  14. aszzz888
    aszzz888 29 August 2013 10: 41 New
    +2
    Brain capture and processing has always been, is, and will be in the first place. After all, it is much easier to manage the "processed" information, any, depending on the desired result of this or that idea.
  15. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 29 August 2013 10: 43 New
    +4
    Something like that
  16. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 29 August 2013 11: 02 New
    +4
    You won’t win the information war until in your own information space America and its allies dominate.
    And the point here is not only that the media and the Internet are controlled, for the most part, by countries hostile to us. This is just the tip.
    To dial information weight in the world, for starters there must be some kind mass a culture that can be promoted in less developed countries. A mass culture of "winners in the Cold War" is being promoted in Russia. This is the USA (Hollywood and cop. Games. Music, television series, propaganda of the American way of life) Britain (anything you want, up to bags and T-shirts with the British flag), Japan (anime, comp. Games, music, dramas, manga), Germany (metal, pop. music, propaganda of all German) Sweden (metal, pop. music, comp. games).
    We mainly hold on to Dostoevsky, Tolstoy and some cranberries in Western cinema) and the RT channel. The trouble is not that Russia simply does not exist in the global information space (they either say bad things about her or don't say anything)and then Russia is becoming less and less even in the space of Russia itself. And it is from this that the collapse of the country begins.
    1. Horde
      Horde 29 August 2013 11: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: Kibalchish
      To gain informational weight in the world, for starters there must be some kind of mass culture that can be promoted in less developed countries

      Our people do not need "mass culture". There is no need to wear T-shirts from the USA or England, there is absolutely no need to write inscriptions on their asses, to watch Hollywood? so now golivut has written out and drives out open mediocrity, not to mention vulgarity and lack of spirituality. We need to stick to OWN ROOTS, they are and promote our own Russian among our youth, then that RUSSIAN CULTURE is the RICHEST of all.
      1. Kibalchish
        Kibalchish 29 August 2013 12: 15 New
        +1
        Culture for the masses is needed if only because not everyone can master the elite art. Well, everyone will not go to theaters, ballet, and libraries. People need to watch and listen to something. And if they don’t like their own, they will watch and listen to someone else’s. This was understood in the USSR when they were forced to film directors, what people need, not garbage for festivals.
        In particular, Sergei Fedorovich Bondarchuk said:
        Cinema is not a cake, but bread that people need. If this is bread, then the artist in the cinema should serve the good and people. If he seeks only self-expression, he must do it on his own money.
        1. Horde
          Horde 29 August 2013 12: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: Kibalchish
          Culture for the masses is needed if only because not everyone can master the elite art


          mass culture is not needed, because "mass, herd" cannot be aimed at the IMPROVEMENT of a person, but only at the satisfaction of momentary needs. pop songs about love all this over time from constant use turns into open vulgarity, endless jokes below the belt, songs about "love" become songs "about love, as the Americans see it", the endless supply of "mass culture" creates an endless demand for it , in response, people get even more of this culture in the form of a frankly meaningless and divorced from life, contrived culture, because it turned out that there is not an ENDLESS AMOUNT for the application of Hollywood, and Hollywood products are ONE SINGLE in taste, meaning and content, or rather their complete absence CANDIES or better to say SOAP with different candy wrappers, but with the same content Mass culture is now represented in the form of a huge computer space in the form of toys, where both young and old plunge. As they used to write about the HARM of computer toys, now this topic has become closed. But it is definitely clear that there is NO benefit other than harm to the psyche and for the human body, such a MASS CULTURE cannot BRING.
  17. rus9875
    rus9875 29 August 2013 11: 42 New
    +2
    Complete demagoguery No matter how much you repeat halva, it will not make your mouth sweeter Whether or not the air defense systems will be good or not will only show their effectiveness or ineffectiveness in a real battle When, in the war for the Falkland Islands, the Argentines sank the newest British destroyer, Sheffield "the selling price of these missiles increased tenfold the next day
  18. optimist
    optimist 29 August 2013 11: 43 New
    +2
    You can chat as much as you like, but if there are no real deeds behind the words that support them, then such words are worthless. Of course, for some time one can successfully prove that "black" is "white" and vice versa. And now: there was a lot of talk about the supply of S-300s to Syria. One of these days, quite possibly, we will learn the truth. You can praise the "great and wise" GDP as much as you like, but if the country continues to slide into ... ooo, the people still cannot be fooled.
  19. scientist
    scientist 29 August 2013 12: 06 New
    0
    There are too few media outlets in the world controlled by Russia or China. The only thing that can stop the conflict is the real threat of using chemical weapons in Europe, because on the side of the Syrian opposition radical Islamists are fighting, they even execute Muslims who do not pray in their own way, imagine what will happen to Europeans
  20. tomket
    tomket 29 August 2013 12: 42 New
    +1
    If there is such a situation in the world, then why on Saturday Russia does not start bombing opposition forces in Syria? The popular opinion is for, the opinion of the rest of the world does not give a damn, they carry out our operation. At the same time, we would have run the Su-34 to the fullest, then you look then India has found all the thresholds for our contracts.
    1. Tu-214R
      Tu-214R 29 August 2013 12: 54 New
      0
      Where to take off from?
      1. tomket
        tomket 29 August 2013 13: 02 New
        0
        from Baltimore, one wonders why dryers have fuel receivers, and why do we need a fleet of tankers, if the question is always raised, where to take off from? The British during the Falklands on one Volcano drove a dozen tankers, and we ask the worse?
        1. Tu-214R
          Tu-214R 29 August 2013 13: 24 New
          0
          The British flew over the ocean, the Americans helped the British with an air base. Who will provide us with the base and permission to fly through their airspace?
  21. tomket
    tomket 29 August 2013 12: 51 New
    0
    I am especially pleased that, for example, Cameron had full confidence that Ased had used chemical weapons, but there were no facts. In general, it was necessary to end this European booth during the Cold War, a terrible end is better than horror without end.
  22. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 29 August 2013 12: 58 New
    +1
    Of the pillars on which the Shadow government rests, it’s especially worth highlighting the printing of money and total control over the media, what does the average statistical American know about Syria? Or the average statistical resident of Europe, he knows only what his native media shows him, and when they constantly grind about Assad maniac on the news devouring children for breakfast, involuntarily you begin to believe this, in the end you need to know that the Western press is corrupt and whoever pays the most will have everything as he wants and where he wants, and also that the Western media are acting on the instructions of his teacher Dr. Goebbels , many of our media have also long been bought up by the Shadow government through nominees, and the Kremlin propaganda is acting so mediocre that it would be better to be silent at all.
  23. Magadan
    Magadan 29 August 2013 16: 05 New
    +5
    NOT all media are sold! Personally, I respect Vesti 24. They talk about Syria all the time, and this morning they showed a wonderful documentary about Syria. It was terrifying what kind of scumbags some ... people (?) Could be - they told how the militants killed a pregnant woman, and then "played football" with her child. So not all media outlets sold out to the West.
    As for Putin, I would also wait a while to shout about "merged Syria." The game is not over, wait and see. GDP is not a trick. His heart feels that he has thought up something very cunning. I spoke with Iran, maybe they agreed to block the Strait of Hormuz? Then oil will jump up to 500 bucks. In this situation, it is a kirdyk to the Western economy. Especially when their public opinion is categorically against aggression! Or maybe Syria and Iran have S-300. And all these courts are divorce suckers? Why immediately open the trump cards? They'll start bombing, we'll see. What if the S-300 is there, but the bourgeoisie have invented something against them? Then why say they exist? Why do we need anti-advertising in case of unsuccessful use of the S-300? Necessarily ours will then also come up with something against their technical tricks, but they will not even know whether the S-300 were there or not?
    All guys are very cunning and sophisticated. One thing I know, victory will be ours. Mandatory. God will not help homosexuals
    1. Horde
      Horde 29 August 2013 17: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: Magadan
      As for Putin, I would also wait a while to shout about "merged Syria."



      Quote: Magadan
      Or maybe S-300 and Syria and Iran have


      Magadan welcome!
      I am surprised at your naivety and carelessness if Syria and Iran had our sneaky press the next day. Now even INFLATABLE s-300s would be useful to Syria to scare away Jews.
      And about Putin, do not bother. Putin is half Jewish, half Russian, therefore his actions are UNPREDICTABLE. However, I think there are not many hopes of how the destruction of the old and the construction of capitalism will occur.
      1. old man54
        old man54 30 August 2013 00: 23 New
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        It's nice to read a thoughtful and reasonable person here! hi You "+"
        Quote: Horde
        And do not bother about Putin

        this is very close to the truth !! For a long time he no longer expresses the interests of the people, nor his desires, they are there by themselves. No.

        Quote: Horde
        Putin is half Jewish, half Russian

        no, buddy Horde, Putin is still without Jewish blood at all, but he sang just with them, with the Jews, and in many ways he is dancing to their tune, alas! One decision of the Russian Federation that now Russia will spy in favor of Israel is worth nothing! request
        Quote: Horde
        However, I think that there is not much hope of how the destruction of the old and the construction of capitalism take place.

        et yes, it’s not long to wait for the denouement! angry
    2. old man54
      old man54 30 August 2013 00: 16 New
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      Quote: Magadan
      NOT ALL MEDIA SOLD! Personally, I respect Vesti 24.

      but "Vesti 24" is just a channel 100% controlled by the Kremlin! Do you think the truth will be told there? There is a skew in the other direction, and what a bias! But to find an absolutely independent media is unrealistic today, and probably already in the world and in Russia, there are almost none. I more or less trusted Mariana Maksimovskaya, earlier, when I was still watching TV. hi
  24. zveroboy61
    zveroboy61 29 August 2013 17: 54 New
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    Putin, Putin, it's hard to make a decision, is it history, and then those who will read it will remain?
    the right decision is to blame the opposition and bomb it parallel to the amers. Do everything under the hood, for a turn.
    And harder to raise the question.
  25. zveroboy61
    zveroboy61 29 August 2013 18: 06 New
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    I realized ***, a couple, you can and a little more NUCLEAR charges to the guys in Syria and then let's try.
  26. Grif
    Grif 29 August 2013 23: 17 New
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    Our business is to wave the sword, fighting off the adversary. Lying and slander are not our weapons.
  27. Captain45
    Captain45 29 August 2013 23: 32 New
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    Quote: Magadan
    All guys are very cunning and sophisticated. One thing I know, victory will be ours. Mandatory. God will not help homosexuals

    I agree, about the "cleverly heaped up", as Shakespeare said through the lips of Prince Hamlet: "There are many strange Horatio in the world, which our wise men never dreamed of." The fact that the Lord will not help homosexuals will definitely not! And victory will still be ours - "Our business is just, the enemy will be defeated, victory will be ours!" These words were not spoken at the best time for the country, but they turned out to be true.
  28. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 30 August 2013 10: 20 New
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    The information war can only be won by adopting the law "On anti-government activities of the media", similar to the American one, and making all the pro-American press and media such as "ECHO of Moscow" (I don’t know such a city in Israel) respect our people and their government!