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Skolkovo never ceases to amaze

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It's no secret that in Russia the majority of citizens are somewhat suspicious of the activities of newly created innovative projects, which include such an organization as Skolkovo? .. Russians are suspicious about the transparency, efficiency and benefits of the work of the aforementioned “science city” and other similar organizations. Some people believe that the criticism is fair, others (certain members of the government, for example) believe that criticism is generally groundless. At the same time, information comes from Skolkovo itself, which should demonstrate to us and you that, when launching critical arrows at this organization, we are deeply ignorant, and that it is time for us to look more objectively at this subject.


As such information, what is called, first-hand, it is possible to name the report of the Skolkovtsy published not so long ago about how the labor market in Russia and the world will change in the coming years. It must be admitted that the study aroused interest, if only because its results cannot be called trivial. So, about everything in order.

Specialists from Moscow School of Management (Moscow School of Management) at Skolkovo conducted without a doubt a unique study, the results of which were to demonstrate to the current youth which profession to choose one representative or another today, so as not to be left without work tomorrow. The described purpose of the study looks truly good, because according to the latest estimates of the main labor department, today in the Russian Federation the highest unemployment rates are among young people (about 30%).

The staff of Skolkovo Moscow School of Management and the Agency for Strategic Initiatives approached the task set before them with full responsibility, and announced the following results of their work.

If you believe those who conducted this study, and still, if you believe that it was conducted at all, then today's students after receiving a certificate should choose professions that are not familiar today. Skolkovtsy urge to abandon the idea of ​​obtaining legal and economic education, they doubt the idea of ​​obtaining a classical engineering specialty, complete obstruction of those who are going to work as a postman, a journalist, a travel agent, a machinist, a seamstress, an accountant, a traffic police inspector or a lecturer ... But on the first places in the future popularity of "Skolkovo" market researchers put such experts as cyber warden, meteoenergetic, the developer of the family trajectory of Vitia, start-up, Mom and GMO-agronomist ...

One of the authors of this work is Pavel Luksha, who works in the above-mentioned LNA.

Skolkovo never ceases to amaze

Pavel Luksha


It is he who is sure that after years through 7-8 Russia will no longer need machinists, journalists, traffic cops, seamstresses and lecturers, since the people of these professions can be “easily” replaced by such semi-automaton semi-robots who will take interviews and a lesson will be held, and in the tailoring of military uniform special differences will manifest. The same Mr. Luksha is sure that the Russian labor market will soon be in dire need of those who will be engaged in correcting the reputation of a person or organization on the Internet (the so-called cyber-yard), as well as engaging in innovative business in between child care activities ( start-up-mom). You can’t be sure about the old-up-mom, but Pavel Luksha is trying to master the profession of a cyberdooler, what is called, here and now: he takes an active part in adjusting the reputation of an organization called Skolkovo on the Internet ... How does he do it? - already completely different история...

It is strange that Skolkovo did not indicate the interest of the Russian market in such innovative specialists as, for example, the “catcher of meteorites” or the “accident-free utilizer of ammunition”.

It is also strange that neither the LNA nor the ASI did not notice how successfully such “new” specialists as “merchandisers for officials” work today (those who move the same officials from place to place) and "Opposition managers with knowledge of the English language" ...

After the research results published by Skolkovtsy and ASI representatives, at least a couple of questions arise. Question one: how much did this study cost the Russian budget? The second question is: when will higher education institutions in our country be opened in which graduates will receive diplomas in specialties such as the future cybershoot and start-up-mom?

In the meantime, Skolkovo is preparing answers to these questions, bearing in mind that instead of lecturer Ilya Ponomarev for 750 thousands of dollars, you could invite, for example, a robot lecturer for an even more impressive amount, the Russian Ministry of Education reports on the course of the 2013 admission campaign of the year in Russian universities. It turned out that graduates of domestic schools still do not want to enroll in technical specialties, preferring the humanitarian field of education. The greatest number of applicants desired to receive professions associated with international relations and personnel management. Many interested persons were observed in the field of economic education. Outside the top ten in popularity among applicants were engineering and technology areas. In this regard, even the leading technological universities of the country again experienced problems with the recruitment of students with high scores in the core USE segments.

Education Minister Dmitry Livanov complained that while the demand for specialists with the knowledge and skills of technicians is growing in the Russian economy, the country's higher education institutions continue to focus on training unclaimed personnel with degrees in lawyers and economists. Is it possible that the Russian youth will be persuaded if our president and the prime minister have “crust” of jurisprudence specialists ... And the maxim that not all graduates should be heads of state, for the modern overly ambitious youth does not always work. Maybe even cybers will be more willing to go ...
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  1. SmacXnumx
    SmacXnumx 27 August 2013 07: 57
    29
    They’re wasting so much money. It would be better if they let them into the business, for example, SU - 35 they bought from the Air Force.
    1. Hon
      Hon 27 August 2013 08: 19
      +8
      Quote: Smac111
      They’re wasting so much money. It would be better if they let them into the business, for example, SU - 35 they bought from the Air Force.

      And how to get a rollback from it?
      1. Airman
        Airman 27 August 2013 08: 41
        28
        Quote: Hon
        Quote: Smac111
        They’re wasting so much money. It would be better if they let them into the business, for example, SU - 35 they bought from the Air Force.

        And how to get a rollback from it?

        There is only one conclusion: SKOLKOVO together with RUSNANO to disperse, and the money allocated for these anti-scientific organizations to be sent to defense, medicine, and school education.
        1. Ribwort
          Ribwort 27 August 2013 09: 04
          16
          Quote: Povshnik
          One conclusion: SKOLKOVO together with RUSNANO to disperse

          Leaders responsible for the results of work and the "development" of funds - to plant!
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 27 August 2013 09: 37
            13
            Quote: Ribwort
            Leaders responsible for the results of work and the "development" of funds - to plant!


            On stake!
            1. smile
              smile 27 August 2013 15: 50
              +3
              Botanologist
              Repeatedly!!! :)))
            2. Airman
              Airman 28 August 2013 09: 04
              +1
              Quote: Botanologist
              Quote: Ribwort
              Leaders responsible for the results of work and the "development" of funds - to plant!


              On stake!

              They already received KOLA at school.
          2. Hon
            Hon 27 August 2013 10: 55
            +7
            Quote: Ribwort
            Leaders responsible for the results of work and the "development" of funds - to plant!


            This is an Indian national hut called, the leaders can only be seated on soft chairs to lead anything else ...
            1. maxvet
              maxvet 27 August 2013 15: 18
              0
              Quote: Hon
              This is an Indian national hut called, the leaders can only be seated on soft chairs to lead anything else ...

              something will not work, because you still need to be able to manage.
              1. Hon
                Hon 27 August 2013 16: 36
                +3
                Quote: maxvet
                something will not work, because you still need to be able to manage.

                Tell Chubais about it
            2. mole
              mole 27 August 2013 15: 53
              +5
              Precisely that HANDS of drivers. There are not enough managers. A manager needs to work, to treat business responsibly and diligently, and the main thing is to know this business! And when you are a friend on the "Lake", what can you know about your subordinates?
              As for the "landing" - Who will land him !? Unfortunately they are not planted (with extremely rare exceptions)! Probably everything will be more accurate "place".
              Tired already!
              1. fennekRUS
                fennekRUS 27 August 2013 22: 34
                +1
                yes .. real managers have the same deficit as machinists for example or competent engineers
        2. Imperial
          Imperial 27 August 2013 09: 12
          +5
          A Chubais and Medvedev on the count, preferably a dumb one.
          1. maxvet
            maxvet 27 August 2013 15: 19
            0
            Quote: Imperial
            A Chubais and Medvedev on the count, preferably a dumb one.

            and not hewn
          2. mole
            mole 27 August 2013 15: 59
            +2
            A Chubais and Medvedev on the count, preferably a dumb one.

            and not hewn

            Gentlemen, they, with all their deeds, achieve this for themselves! But this is cruel, inhuman, not humane! Although I still agree, the most important thing here is that we with the degrading West can agree, because the fifth point on the stake is much more tolerant, and most importantly, human rights coincide with desires ?!
        3. mole
          mole 27 August 2013 15: 46
          +1
          There is only one conclusion: SKOLKOVO together with RUSNANO to disperse, and the money allocated for these anti-scientific organizations to be sent to defense, medicine, and school education.

          How can you destroy your creation, even if you can’t create your own?
          Here DAM in every speech stands for effectiveness! Where is the effectiveness. Looking back at history, in spite of all the dirt spilled on it, I see the effectiveness, the expediency of what was created in the USSR. In the present, with extremely rare exceptions, only projects, plans and noise (advertising). The effectiveness of global projects (especially DAM's), of course, in my subjective opinion, strive for ZERO!
        4. smile
          smile 27 August 2013 15: 49
          +2
          Airman
          Eh. we should disperse everything and shoot ... After all, science cities are still needed. So why destroy them? It is necessary to restore order, including with the use of the penitentiary system - there is no other way, but to disperse? This is the same thing as to disperse all universities, institutes and RAS and give all the money to science and education ... :))) do you think this will greatly benefit this Science itself?
      2. KILLAvolt
        KILLAvolt 27 August 2013 09: 21
        +3
        ... and even worse, all these people are clearly not professionals! This can be judged by the results of their activities ... And everyone is always praised for their honors and a bunch of graduated universities. One can only guess how they got them.
        1. igor67
          igor67 27 August 2013 09: 32
          +3
          Quote: KILLAvolt
          ... and even worse, all these people are clearly not professionals! This can be judged by the results of their activities ... And everyone is always praised for their honors and a bunch of graduated universities. One can only guess how they got them.

          Just the same turn, professionals, with delusions, replace traffic cops and postmen, they have salaries ....... belay
        2. Hon
          Hon 27 August 2013 11: 00
          +2
          Quote: KILLAvolt
          ... and even worse, all these people are clearly not professionals! This can be judged by the results of their activities ... And everyone is always praised for their honors and a bunch of graduated universities. One can only guess how they got them.

          You are mistaken these people are professionals, they are doing everything right, and I achieve my goals. They didn’t set a goal to chop bobs, they didn’t set goals to raise science and introduce innovations.
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 27 August 2013 08: 25
      10
      Quote: Smac111
      So much money wasted

      So the author made the essence and meaning of Skolkovo in the title of the article-Skolkovo never ceases to amaze, and it can surprise only with one thing - with cuts and no projects. Well, let's clarify - the Skolkovo subprogram for 2013-2020 is aimed at developing research, development and commercialization of their results in priority areas.
      The federal budget will allocate 125,2 billion rubles for Skolkovo, including 24,3 billion rubles in 2013, 23 billion in 2014, and 18,3 billion in 2015. The government plans to attract at least 50% of the costs for the innovation center from private sources.
      Earlier, Minister of Economic Development Alexei Ulyukaev said that financing of the state program for the development of the Skolkovo center until 2020 will amount to 502 billion rubles, of which budgetary funds will amount to only 135,6 billion rubles.
      , i.e. 135,6 lards for skolkovy dubious "projects" and "innovations" are thrown out of our pocket ... So, in addition to Skolkovo, there is also Rusnano, under the "sensitive" leadership of the red-haired Tolyan ..
      1. Garrin
        Garrin 27 August 2013 08: 49
        +3
        Quote: Tersky
        "Rusnano", under the "sensitive" guidance of the red-haired Tolyan ..

        Greetings, Victor! hi
        Now you can still add ... and Tolika Taburetkina
    3. Ribwort
      Ribwort 27 August 2013 08: 26
      13
      Quote: "... such specialists as a cyber-worker, a meteorological specialist, a developer of a family trajectory of development, a start-up-mother and a GMO-agronomist. Russia will no longer need machinists, journalists, traffic cops, seamstresses and lecturers, since people of these professions can be without difficulty "to replace with such semi-automatic semi-robots."

      So this is what kind of research is being carried out in Skolkovo and what the multimillion-dollar budgetary funds are spent on! Curious ... But, I remember, similar studies were carried out in the USSR by schoolchildren as part of an essay on the Russian language "How I See the Future". Moreover, it is completely free.
      As far as I understand, the lack of concrete results was blabbed by the "weather forecast".
    4. the polar
      the polar 27 August 2013 09: 54
      +1
      It would be desirable in the article to give a link to the report of this Luksha himself, for objectivity.
    5. Col.
      Col. 27 August 2013 10: 29
      +9
      Quote: Smac111
      So much money wasted would be better if they were allowed to work

      This is from our point of view - money is wasted, and from "their" point of view - all the way! Already in several places along the roads in Moscow and the Moscow region from the car window I saw billboards for the sale of "elite real estate" in Skolkovo. The overwhelming majority of the local population has no doubts that this "innovative project" is just a cover for the next grandiose cut of budget (ie, people's) funds. Many of the "reformers" do not even know that dozens of science cities and academic towns existed and worked effectively in the USSR (Dubna, Pushchino, Troitsk, Fryazino - these are only in the Moscow region, Novosibirsk, Sarov, etc.). All this was thrown into self-sufficiency, and now they pretend that they have invented the bicycle. Funny and wretched bureaucrats!
      1. little man
        little man 27 August 2013 13: 10
        +2
        Exactly! It would be better if Skolkovo money was invested in these institutions, which are bent from lack of money. I will add a description from an Internet of Moscow city science cities:

        rocket and space technology - Korolev, Khimki, Balashikha;
        Center for Aviation Science - Zhukovsky;
        basic research is mainly concentrated in Dubna, Protvin, Pushchino, Troitsk, Chernogolovka;
        test and metrological complexes - in Beloozersky, Zhukovsky, Krasnoarmeysk;
        centers of radio engineering and electronics - in Zelenograd and Fryazin;
        centers of dual technologies - in Dzerzhinsky, Klimovsk;
        microbiology and biotechnology - in Pushchino and Obolensk.
    6. w.ebdo.g
      w.ebdo.g 27 August 2013 10: 44
      +5
      There is an opinion that Skolkovo is used as a pumping of money from the country's budget in support of the liberal pro-Western opposition ...
      that is, amers even figured out how not to finance it themselves, but to attract the Russian economy to destroy Russia itself.
      It’s impossible to say exactly how much money is needed for the opening, it’s like for artists, a picture can cost 5 thousand rubles, or it can cost exactly 5 million dollars. Therefore, this project is the best meets the requirements of amers on money laundering. And the company’s management has a man whom it’s time to either plant or immediately shoot. Deserved for a long time already. Apparently, the President’s authority is not enough for this.
      But no big deal, it will all start soon ...

    7. hiocraib
      hiocraib 27 August 2013 11: 27
      +5
      interesting, and where are such popular and sought-after specialties as:
      1. cybergalley slave
      2. cyberloader on rollbacks
      3. cyberkickback sawer
      Well, how did you forget about:
      4. cut manager
      5. budget master?
      1. mole
        mole 27 August 2013 16: 06
        +1
        Quote: hiocraib
        interesting, and where are such popular and sought-after specialties as:
        1. cybergalley slave
        2. cyberloader on rollbacks
        3. cyberkickback sawer
        Well, how did you forget about:
        4. cut manager
        5. budget master?

        The first in the list of professions should be:
        Cyberthe real exterminator of embezzlers!
        The need is long overdue! am
    8. Amur
      Amur 27 August 2013 15: 27
      +1
      Pavel Luksha. It is he who is sure that in 7-8 years Russia will cease to need train drivers, journalists, traffic cops, seamstresses and lecturers, since people of these professions can be "easily" replaced with semi-automatic semi-automatic machines,
      its results are not trivial

      is it not even funny that they smoke there in their skolkovo? Close it to such-and-such a mother ... it’s better to put money into Phobos-Mars - another more fantastic project.
      1. fennekRUS
        fennekRUS 27 August 2013 22: 37
        0
        it’s better to put money into Phobos-Mars - another more fantastic project. - more realistic, and more benefits
    9. mole
      mole 27 August 2013 15: 37
      0
      The idea is probably normal, but the "implementers" ... negative
    10. Buran
      Buran 27 August 2013 17: 58
      +1
      News from Skolkovo is the same "British scientists" only in Russian.
    11. Mista_dj
      Mista_dj 27 August 2013 18: 16
      +2
      Skolkovo - absolutely necessary for the country!
      And not one.
      But with clear funding; reporting and goals.
      And it is highly desirable that he (Skolkovo) be headed not by the red-haired traitor, but by a talented and truly devoted man to his homeland.
      Such a person as Mikhail Timofeevich Kalashnikov; Sergey Petrovich Kapitsa.
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 27 August 2013 20: 16
        0
        Quote: Mista_Dj
        Skolkovo - absolutely necessary for the country!

        Fenced in by the thorn and spirals of Bruno. bully
        1. Mista_dj
          Mista_dj 27 August 2013 22: 34
          0
          Yes, even with minefields!
          If only they did their work and did not steal money!
  2. shurup
    shurup 27 August 2013 08: 02
    20
    In the register of occupations, it is fit to introduce not the exotic one any more: "The operator of machine milking the budget", which, however, already has nothing to do with animal husbandry.
  3. andrey9031
    andrey9031 27 August 2013 08: 05
    +3
    It’s a bit easier for lawyers and economists to get into officials, they’re no good at all
  4. Alez
    Alez 27 August 2013 08: 05
    13
    Skolkovo, the key word is Chipping, chipping, chopping, sawing off, cutting off what they don’t come up with to slam the money. And they insolently tyrify, scold them, threaten with a finger, and Luksha listens and eats. But in 2016, maternity capital will no longer be paid, saving the budget. The bureaucrats would start from themselves, cut down the ministries, stop giving money to Chubais for INNOVATION. Where is this Red-headed Reptile with his super-readers and tablets?
  5. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 27 August 2013 08: 06
    11
    Scientific activity should be carried out in specialized institutions. The USSR did everything right and there is no need to reinvent the wheel here. From the very beginning, Skolkovo positioned itself as a kind of "innovation center" that deals with everything ... and nothing. All the "Skolkovo developments" turned out to be zilch, but more and more billions poured into it, which then surfaced around the world, while specialized research institutes howled from lack of money. This sharazhkin office must be urgently liquidated before it finally liquidates Russian science.
  6. JonnyT
    JonnyT 27 August 2013 08: 15
    10
    Well, nonsense! Without engineers, doctors and teachers! I got the impression that the author of this study was conceived on the Internet. Robotics will be able to replace humans for years through 80. And who will make the robots? Cyber ​​wipers ???? Skolkovo - an organization simulating scientific activity !!! In fact, they just saw the budget
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 27 August 2013 20: 21
      0
      The simulation of activity, the issuance of feverish delirium for innovation, is too expensive for the state. For such things you have to beat in the face. On this impudent red face. laughing
  7. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 27 August 2013 08: 22
    +5
    Russian doll. A godforsaken expert, under the roof of the HSE, who, in turn, is located on the Skolkovo site, publishes his own nonsense and all this is presented as a Skolkovo achievement.
  8. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 27 August 2013 08: 23
    +4
    Those "members" and "people's deputies" who believe that criticism of Skolkovo is groundless, apparently they themselves participate in the cutting of state funds.

    Skolkivtsi call for abandoning the idea of ​​obtaining a legal and economic education, they question the idea of ​​getting a classical engineering specialty, those who are going to work as a postman, journalist, travel agent, engineer, seamstress, accountant, traffic police inspector or lecturer are completely obstructed ...- and someone would like to take an interest in fulfilling the functions in the above specialties, for example, a seamstress, engineer, accountant or teacher ... request
    It seems like nonsense ... lol
  9. Z.A.M.
    Z.A.M. 27 August 2013 08: 28
    13
    "But in the first places in terms of future popularity," Skolkovo "market researchers put such specialists as cyber-worker, meteorological engineer, developer of the family development trajectory, start-up-mother and GMO-agronomist ... "[/color]

    And for whom "secret" and "UDЫINFLUENCE " that skolЬcovo , only one of the stages - slow, purposeful, and achievable (!), dissection (dissection), by the way, "live", of the entire education of Russia ??? For you and me? So we are already used to ... (unfortunately ...) For Putin? So he ... FSUs .., or choose the word yourself.
    Or again, Livanovs, Chubais - will we blame? About Serdyukov, let us again recall: "If Putin does not jail him, I will not believe him!", "Serdyukov is a litmus test of the authorities." ...
    And if the "" LANDS ""(which I have no doubt about), describe yourself with joy - "I believed in Putin! He did not disappoint, he planted the embezzler (a traitor for me)."

    And yet, Putin has something to learn ... So slowly destroy the foundations of the state, so that no one even notices the process of destruction and the MOST destroyer. Well, of course, relatively slowly, but still ... And always - NOTHING! Probably they will even write books about him ... I can advise the name: "Own" among strangers "ALIEN" among their own. "This is not plagiarism - this is Putin's formula.

    PS And forget about all the "investigations" of the "Accounts Chambers" - F U F L O ...
    Well, so that we, the townsfolk, cattle are not "bored", so that our brains work "in TU side "... fool
  10. fartfraer
    fartfraer 27 August 2013 08: 31
    +2
    yes ... soon Russia will cease to need working specialties in general. the borders for Gaster will be opened and everyone. only who needs a "nation of managers"?
  11. mak210
    mak210 27 August 2013 08: 37
    +1
    Universities are not to blame: they just satisfy demand, nothing personal, just business. Budget places for economist-lawyers are practically not given, only paid ones, so why not cry, let the professors earn. And engineers and technologists will begin to study when 25 million high-tech jobs promised by the president appear. Only applicants do not seem to believe much in this.
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer 27 August 2013 08: 38
      0
      budget places for lawyers are for sure.
      1. mak210
        mak210 27 August 2013 09: 20
        +2
        And I didn’t say no, but there are fewer of them than in previous years, and the USE scores tend to three hundred.
        1. fartfraer
          fartfraer 27 August 2013 12: 34
          0
          entered by typing 186. with which it is quite calm
  12. andrei332809
    andrei332809 27 August 2013 08: 39
    +1
    it would be better if they thought up how to pull up the red chef in the near future. on some ropes
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 27 August 2013 14: 45
      +5
      Quote: andrei332809
      it would be better if they thought up how to pull up the red chef in the near future. on some ropes
  13. ziqzaq
    ziqzaq 27 August 2013 08: 43
    +1
    Mlyn, where do such "clever guys" come from? Children need to develop the BRAIN: mathematics, physics, chemistry, literature, etc., read more ... It's easy, a sensible guy in the place of a technologist-technologist to find a problem, several "vegetables" came from an ad, they cannot distinguish a sine from a cosine , but they work with projections and angular values ​​... It's sad ...
  14. basil200
    basil200 27 August 2013 08: 44
    +1
    It seems that in the skolkovo, they have read comic majors. And 30% without working youth are those who do not want to work. They immediately want to become either a director or a salary like that of a director or boss.
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 27 August 2013 09: 02
      +4
      Quote: basil200
      It seems in Skolkovo work well-read comic majors.

      Here with the word WORK, you obviously got excited.
  15. lotar
    lotar 27 August 2013 08: 54
    +3
    At least two profitable business projects for some officials are already operating, Skolkovo and Rusnano. I wonder what will happen next?
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer 27 August 2013 08: 58
      +8
      Putin’s fourth election will continue. People have been weaned almost to take information critically.
    2. Alez
      Alez 27 August 2013 12: 09
      +2
      ChubaTech, RosChub, NanoChub will appear.
  16. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 27 August 2013 09: 01
    +1
    Judging by the monumentality of the research, I won’t be surprised if the development of nanotrosses for the forced return of the magnetic pole to the geographical one is underway in Skolkovo.
  17. 311ove
    311ove 27 August 2013 09: 01
    +4
    But there is an idea - to put Skolkovo on self-sufficiency and "self-financing" as with industry research institutes in the 90s. Cut off government funding, salaries like all other teachers, ..... how long will they last ??! Maybe they'll get down to business ... And surround this economist with cyber-workers and GMO-agronomists, so that he could sit with a splinter and for GMO potatoes in the field on foot, but with a spatula, sorry, Bitch - who will make him a shovel? ... angry wassat
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 27 August 2013 13: 00
      0
      Quote: 311ove
      But there is an idea - to put Skolkovo on self-sufficiency and "cost accounting" as with industry research institutes in the 90s. Cut off state funding, salaries like all other teachers,

      The idea is good. Peerless! Either they will start working, or they will go as ordinary janitors.

      "... for 750 thousand dollars ..."
      For a more modest reward, I can choose:
      1. Conduct an intelligible lecture on determining the place of Skolkovo in the development of science, showing this place.
      2. Conduct a conversation with the staff of the institution about their role in the development of science. With a show and hands-on activities.
  18. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 27 August 2013 09: 02
    +1
    most likely having received a Western education, they stupefied there at the end, they need to be driven to the fields to collect spikelets
  19. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 27 August 2013 09: 08
    +1
    Abolish Skolkovo and Rusnano, give money to English scientists. At least the Shnobel Prize will be earned, or people will be amused. And it's a shame, nАnot money, no effect.
  20. Jarik56
    Jarik56 27 August 2013 09: 10
    +3
    Quote: Ribwort
    Quote: Povshnik
    One conclusion: SKOLKOVO together with RUSNANO to disperse

    Leaders responsible for the results of work and the "development" of funds - to plant!

    If Chubais is not kicked out, then someone needs this!
  21. stroporez
    stroporez 27 August 2013 09: 15
    +2
    I would like to see the Skolkovo team's report in this form: money is received - so much, this and that is done, it is necessary for this and that .... otherwise, it’s a "meteor catcher" - it’s not clear what, don’t understand what, just like "Russian intelligentsia" ......
  22. Hitrovan07
    Hitrovan07 27 August 2013 09: 19
    +1
    Yeah, and it is in Skolkovo that "scientific" works should now be written. This is not even a "cut" it is something already from conspiracy theory, to gather the scientific elite in one place ??? Are many campuses difficult to control?
  23. Fin
    Fin 27 August 2013 09: 22
    +2
    It must be admitted that the study aroused interest, if only because its results cannot be called trivial.

    Interestingly, who caused this interest? The nonsense of a boy living on the net, but he seems to be an adult.
    Specialists of the LNA (Moscow School of Management) at Skolkovo undoubtedly conducted a unique study,

    And what is unique about that? Loafers came up with the names of professions, so what next?
  24. saag
    saag 27 August 2013 09: 29
    +1
    We already had it, Elbasy once appeared in the press that working specialties will not be needed, everything will be in 3D, he probably meant making everything and everything on 3D printers
  25. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 27 August 2013 09: 36
    +1
    In my opinion, the expression: "in Russia, the majority of citizens are somewhat distrustful of the activities of recently created innovative projects, which include such an organization as Skolkovo" is extremely soft and does not express the range of feelings that words and phrases evoke in people: "Skolkovo, Chubais, Nanotechnology, innovative development, etc. ".
  26. Isk1984
    Isk1984 27 August 2013 09: 53
    +1
    Here's how not to believe in the cyclical nature of the situation, the situation is upside, they don’t want, but the lower classes can’t, it just saves the situation in the country. The principle is that I don’t know anything from the edge, but patience comes to an end, it so happened that not everyone in the country is involved in I’ll divide the oil cake, the income from 10 to 20 thousand, you won’t make fun of them, and you have to pay the mortgage somehow, so there’s nothing to lose now .... As if someone didn’t, but we can’t avoid the revolution, so live it’s impossible or we’ll lose the country ...
  27. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 27 August 2013 09: 56
    +7
    <<< in Russia, the majority of citizens with some distrust refer to the activities of recently created innovative projects, to which such an organization as Skolkovo belongs? .. >>>
    The suspicions that arose from the very beginning of the creation of the Skolkovo and Rusnano offices, when it became known who was driving them, later only strengthened, thanks to a series of scandals, when considerable funds allocated by the state (they cannot earn their own - only promises in the form of scientific noodles) sailed away for the wrong purpose: then 750 thousand am. USD to the uneducated lecturer Ponomarev, 24 million rubles were stolen ... So there is more and more reason to believe that these offices are a cover for a fund that uses budget money to finance the Ponomarevs, i.e. swamp opposition! And the creator of these offices, the former president with his ambitions, will also need the fund's money in his future company for the presidency! So, in fact, it turns out that there is no smell of innovation and nanotechnology here, an elementary cut is going on!
    1. Zerstorer
      Zerstorer 27 August 2013 11: 04
      0
      Quote: Goldmitro
      a cover for a fund that uses budget money to finance the Ponomarevs, ie. swamp opposition!

      I will give one more example. Who is financing the Echo_Moscow radio? The answer is Gazprom. And who is on the board of directors? Medvedev's subordinates - Zubkov for example. Although HZ who controls whom there - money by power or power by money bags.
      1. Hon
        Hon 27 August 2013 11: 29
        +1
        Aleksei Borisovich Miller (born January 31, 1962, Leningrad) [1] [2] [3] - Chairman of the Management Committee and Deputy Chairman of the Board of Directors of Gazprom. PhD in Economics
        Alexey Miller was born on January 31, 1962 in Leningrad. He studied at school-gymnasium No. 330 of the Nevsky district of the city of Leningrad.

        In 1984 he graduated from the Leningrad Financial and Economic Institute. N.A. Voznesensky.

        In the 1980s, he was part of the circle of Leningrad reform economists, whose informal leader was Anatoly Chubais; in 1987 he was a member of the Synthesis club at the Leningrad Youth Palace, which included young Leningrad economists and social scientists, including: Dmitry Vasiliev, Mikhail Dmitriev, Andrei Illarionov, Boris Levin, Mikhail Manevich [5], Andrei Lankov, Andrei Prokofiev, Dmitry Travin and others [6].

        1984-1986 - engineer-economist of LenNIIIIproekt;
        1986-1989 - graduate student of LenNIIIIproekt;
        1990 - Junior Researcher, LenNIIIIproekt;
        1990-1991 - work in the Committee on Economic Reform of the Executive Committee of the Leningrad City Council;
        1991-1996 - work in the Committee on External Relations of the St. Petersburg Mayor's Office: head of department, deputy head of department, deputy chairman of the committee (the chairman of the committee was V.V. Putin).
        1996-1999 - Development and Investment Director of OJSC “Sea Port“ Saint Petersburg ””.
        1999-2000 - General Director of the Baltic Pipeline System OJSC.
        2000-2001 - Deputy Minister of Energy of the Russian Federation.
      2. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 27 August 2013 14: 49
        +2
        Quote: Zerstorer
        And who is on the board of directors?
  28. crossbow
    crossbow 27 August 2013 10: 20
    0
    I don’t know about you, to me personally this Skolkovo resembles the well-known hero of one work of the Russian classic lieutenant Kizhe, with all the ensuing as they say ...
  29. Zerstorer
    Zerstorer 27 August 2013 10: 28
    0
    There are many who need to be identified as cyber-janitors and sent to sweep the taiga. In the 30s, most of the convicts were held under the article "embezzlement of state funds." I am against the introduction of those methods, scribbling of denunciations, etc. BUT (!!!) there should be a responsible executor who, if not with his head, then with his wallet, is responsible for the project. He did not meet the deadline, he promised milk rivers with jelly banks and rays of death, but he himself did not fulfill - if you please answer.
  30. solomon
    solomon 27 August 2013 10: 31
    0
    "Skolkovo" market researchers put such experts as the first in the coming popularity cyber janitor, meteorologist, family trajectory developer, start-up mom и GMO agronomist...

    Either we are far from science to understand these things, or "science" is too far from people.
    Most likely the second.
  31. RussianRu
    RussianRu 27 August 2013 10: 33
    +1
    V. Mayakovsky; -All the work is good, let me teach.

    The job should be chosen according to one's liking, not recommendations. Work remuneration should be approximately equal in all areas of activity. Then there will be fewer unemployed. And what the hell do they say? Robots? And who else is developing robotics here? What is it, in 7-8 years? To disperse these "dreamers-innovators" and "theorists-nanonists" to x ... dogs. Specialists-practitioners are needed, that's all to keep. Dreamer theorists? And from them, like water off a duck's back, they will always find an excuse who is to blame.
  32. Ulan
    Ulan 27 August 2013 10: 45
    +1
    Wait, Skolkovo will also be privatized. The main privatizer Chubais has soaped up Rusnano to privatize and Skolkovo will face the same fate.
    It's time to create the state corporation "RosRaspil". Will have wild success in certain circles.
  33. zvereok
    zvereok 27 August 2013 10: 58
    0
    You can’t be sure about the old-up-mom, but Pavel Luksha is trying to master the profession of cyber courtyard, as they say here and now: he is actively involved in adjusting the reputation of the organization called Skolkovo
    Well, and you are all bots, but footcloths are quite respected people, they lick your tongue. Dad, deputy, city council, mom is an official in the same city, son is a cyber janitor, tells how we all live well under the laws of EP.
  34. USNik
    USNik 27 August 2013 11: 20
    +3
    "Skolkovo" market researchers put such experts as the first in the coming popularity cyber janitor, meteorological engineer, developer of a family development path, start-up mom and GMO agronomist ...

    The mega-idiots headed by Nanotoly seriously think that engineers, welders, doctors, and teachers will be replaced by "space road engineers, cyber-prosthetics specialists, biorobot designers, time brokers, biopharmacologists, network doctors, supervisors, watchers, virtual lawyers and urban environmentalists" !? To demolish Skolkovo, send all British scientists from there for retraining and to the machine, send Medvedev and Nanotolia to help cyber-workers or to cyber-loggers in the nanovarkut.
    1. Lk17619
      Lk17619 27 August 2013 14: 25
      0
      Unfortunately, there is no forest in Vorkuta, but in the winter the cyber wipers clean the tundra from the snow and make water supplies is only for)))))))
  35. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 27 August 2013 11: 47
    0
    Quote: JonnyT
    the author of this study was conceived on the Internet. Robotics can replace a person in 80 years. And who will make the robots? Cyber ​​wipers ???? Skolkovo - an organization simulating scientific activity !!! In fact, they just saw the budget

    They nag, then court hearings with "partial satisfaction." Doesn't get bored:The Gagarinsky Court of Moscow partially satisfied the claim of the Skolkovo Foundation against the deputy Ilya Ponomarev, recovering 2,728 million rubles from him. Skolkovo wanted to collect nine million rubles from the people's choice for a short course of lectures he had read ..., [b] although they paid him: [/ b] According to investigators, the former vice-president of Skolkovo Aleksey Beltyukov, against whom the embezzlement case was initiated, illegally transferred $ 750 from the fund to Ponomarev. In a statement, the Investigative Committee said that within the framework of the criminal case, the subject, content and scientific value of the deputy's ten lectures would be carefully studied., - [b] but you should probably forget about it, as in the case of Serdyukov and K. .... [/ b]
  36. fedorovith
    fedorovith 27 August 2013 11: 57
    0
    Skolkovo nursery of liberoid ideas and the breeding ground of all anti-Russian organizations financed from the budget under the guise of the development of breakthrough research in the collapse of the country.
  37. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 27 August 2013 12: 12
    +2
    stupidly close.
  38. lelikas
    lelikas 27 August 2013 13: 52
    0
    Quote: Smac111
    So much money wasted

    I joked yesterday that they are developing a corrupt official’s robot - but it’s almost guessed ...
  39. Horde
    Horde 27 August 2013 14: 16
    0
    it is, and you thought?
  40. Lk17619
    Lk17619 27 August 2013 14: 31
    0
    It's all sad ..... Today Skolkino, tomorrow Nano .. some kind of, these billions in education (schools, circles, vocational schools, institutes, etc.) in 5-7 years we would have so many specialists that no "how much" would not be necessary. Science, technology would be moving by leaps and bounds, and no foreign and Korean technologies would be needed.
  41. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 27 August 2013 14: 52
    0
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    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 27 August 2013 15: 05
      +1
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  42. Savva30
    Savva30 27 August 2013 15: 02
    0
    If you believe those who conducted this study, and if you believe that it was done at all, then today’s schoolchildren after receiving a certificate need to choose professions that are not familiar to today. Skolkivtsi call for abandoning the idea of ​​obtaining a legal and economic education, they question the idea of ​​getting a classical engineering specialty, those who are going to work as a postman, journalist, travel agent, engineer, seamstress, accountant, traffic police inspector or lecturer are completely obstructed ... But in the first place in terms of future popularity, “Skolkovo” market researchers put such experts as a cyber yard, a meteorologist, a developer of a family trajectory Vitia, start-up, Mom and GMO-agronomist ...
    THEY THAT SMOK THERE ???
  43. Snoop
    Snoop 27 August 2013 16: 16
    0
    Some insanity, not research. Although I myself was initially convinced that all of these nano nuno for the development of budget funds in personal interests.
  44. spirit
    spirit 27 August 2013 16: 21
    0
    I happened to be at this Skolkovo miracle). I will not describe in detail how it is and what, I will tell you only one funny case):
    One day, one of the BOSSES arrived) with an inspection, and asks:
    - why the walls are not ready, bare concrete!
    And they say to him:
    -No no everything is ready, this is a new trend, Milanese design fellow
    Here they are innovations)))) In general, Hochma laughing
    "finished" Walls in the photo
  45. gameover65
    gameover65 27 August 2013 16: 39
    0
    If you believe those who conducted this study, and still, if you believe that it was conducted at all, then today's students after receiving a certificate should choose professions that are not familiar today. Skolkovtsy urge to abandon the idea of ​​obtaining legal and economic education, they doubt the idea of ​​obtaining a classical engineering specialty, complete obstruction of those who are going to work as a postman, a journalist, a travel agent, a machinist, a seamstress, an accountant, a traffic police inspector or a lecturer ... But on the first places in the future popularity of "Skolkovo" market researchers put such experts as cyber warden, meteoenergetic, the developer of the family trajectory of Vitia, start-up, Mom and GMO-agronomist ...


    and what else to expect from the head of the red hell ?!
  46. Vtel
    Vtel 27 August 2013 16: 40
    0
    The Veksel-Skolkovo and NANO-CHUB power-saw benches are clearly with an import bias and are working on cutting folk money in favor of the starving ruling pro-Western liberal elite.

    GDP:
    "Anatoly Borisovich Chubais remains such a very necessary figure for us, to whom public opinion is constantly distracted when something is not pleasant ..."
    "There is a lot of funny things. For example, among Anatoly Borisovich's entourage, as it turned out today, staff members of the US CIA worked as advisers."
    "Now about responsibility. They themselves said that they had placed money ineffectively. I follow, of course, what is happening there, today they themselves point to losses in the amount of 2,5 billion rubles. The money, of course, is rather big. this sphere unmistakably, a penny ...
    I have absolutely no intention of defending Chubais. "

    And this is about Skolkovo:
    "The order there will be the same as in projects of this kind. We will carefully monitor how the money is spent - where it is directed, for what purposes. I am sure that no one will allow any theft there."

    In general, everything is in a bundle and under their control, money is not stolen, but redirected.
  47. komendor
    komendor 27 August 2013 17: 09
    -2
    Hello. I read comments and imagine smart people just as long ago as you swore at the first e-bulbs, at the first steam locomotives, cars, how you put the steps on the T-34, scolded helicopters, computers and ekranoplanes and remember how much was ridiculed about cell phones and not understood a lot of ideas sometimes incredible that we use today.
    I think that these ideas will again be used somewhere in another country and our grandchildren will use this.
  48. DmitriRazumov
    DmitriRazumov 27 August 2013 17: 29
    +1
    Skolkovo is another huge project to launder money by officials and others like them. First of all, one must bear in mind that there are at least 3 organizations there. actively "pills". This is the Skolkovo Construction Fund, the Skolkovo Foundation itself and the School of Management. The School of Management is one building. In 5 years, the Building Fund has built, despite multibillion-dollar injections, 1 square ugly structure, which for some reason is called " Supercube ". LADIES there wanted to do some kind of world chess championship among children, in general," new Vasyuki "and only. Some half-blue grief architects were invited from all over the world, who, again, for big money of taxpayers ( you) drew idiotic sketches, which are not projects in any way. That is, they laundered again. At the exit - 0. Now we are talking about additional financing. The GDP rested and does not give money to the LADY. The place there is a trump card - a cleared field near the Moscow Ring Road, around the elite cottages, the Kiev and Minsk highways are in direct contact.It feels like Vekselberg will sell all these hundred square meters to the same moneybags at the end of the day and all attempts at the expense of Innograd will quietly come to naught ...
  49. tank64rus
    tank64rus 27 August 2013 17: 41
    0
    We in the USSR had ekranoplanes and ekranoplanes where they are. NO MONEY. 6 thousand secret patents disappeared in the 90s, you guess where. Despite the fact that there are scientists and inventors in the country, there is NO MONEY for their development. True, they are now being finished off gradually by "reforms". The leadership of the country needs smart and talented people, not "effective managers" whose task is to snatch a bigger piece and go over the hill. Then Russia would show the world what it is capable of. And Skolkovo is a bureaucratic reserve.
  50. washi
    washi 27 August 2013 17: 42
    -1
    GDP immediately, even or already as prime minister, opposed Skolkovo. He continued to support the Academgorodoks and universities near them.
    Skolkovo is a money laundering and money laundering project. Like Rusnano. Not a single breakthrough project has ever existed. But real breakthroughs, some even showed on DTV, are slowed down.
    Skolkovo was created to control our science and draw minds from it to the west
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer 27 August 2013 18: 54
      +2
      Vasya, look at the comments of Yarosvet and tell us how he was against the president. he could (had every right) to turn this sharaga to hell, however, "things are still there." to want (or say what you want) and do (having all the possibilities) are completely different things
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 27 August 2013 20: 40
      +1
      Quote: Vasya
      GDP immediately, even or already as prime minister, opposed Skolkovo.
      Can you link?

      Like Rusnano.
      N 139-FZ of 19.07.07/XNUMX/XNUMX, like the appointment of Chubais, was signed by Putin.
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 27 August 2013 21: 29
        0
        A small mistake was made - not Chubais, but his deputy for RAO UES - Melamed.