The presence of oddities in the government program "Strengthening the unity of the Russian nation ..."

Last week, the Russian government approved the Federal Target Program "Strengthening the unity of the Russian nation and the ethno-cultural development of the peoples of Russia", designed for the period up to 2020 year. This FTP, in turn, is the so-called program-target instrument (that’s, at least, its government determines) of the state program called “Regional Policy and Federal Relations”.

If you look at the document submitted by the government of the Russian Federation, then the main goal of the work of the said Federal Program is, quote: “strengthening the unity of the multinational people of the Russian Federation (Russian nation)”, and the main tasks are defined as follows:

assistance in the formation of all-Russian civil patriotism and solidarity;

promotion of ethnocultural diversity and socio-economic development of the peoples of Russia;

promoting the harmonization of interethnic and ethnic and religious relations, as well as ensuring inter-ethnic peace and harmony.

The following are indicated as expected results of the program (materials are taken from the description of the FTP):

an increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves Russians or who identify themselves as Russian nations - up to 74%;

an increase in the level of tolerance towards representatives of other nationalities - up to 85%;

an increase in the number of citizens who would positively characterize the state of interethnic relations in the Russian Federation - to 65%;

the implementation of those programs in the regions of the Russian Federation that would be aimed at harmonizing interethnic relations, as well as at strengthening civil unity throughout Russia.

The responsible executive of the program is the Ministry of Regional Development of the Russian Federation. And, in general, the Ministry of Regional Development would already have to start working in the designated areas of strengthening equality and fraternity, but when adopting the program, an important snag cleared up ... The fact is that when the implementation plan of the federal target program appeared, the initial financing of the project listed on several dozen pages of printed text, interspersed with very impressive formulas, amounted to 38,04 billion rubles. After the peculiar adjustments of the program, which the Russian cabinet of ministers conducted, it was decided to cut funding more than 5,5 times. The final funding of the program amounted to 6,76 billion rubles, of which two thirds will be allocated from the federal treasury, and the remaining third from regional and municipal budgets.

After a more than fivefold reduction in the level of funding for the program, the question arises: is the government going to refuse to implement the overwhelming majority of designated FTP points, or will it reduce the activity for each one by 5,5? In other words, is it possible that the birth of a document called “Strengthening the unity of the Russian nation and the ethno-cultural development of the peoples of Russia” is nothing more than the appearance of another paper with promising goals and objectives, even supported by a mathematical apparatus, but not supported by financial means and sometimes common sense ...

The mathematical apparatus, it must be admitted, is more than serious, and we must pay tribute to those gentlemen who were going on the basis of mathematical formulas to increase the number of citizens who believe that inter-ethnic conflicts do not manifest themselves at all in Russia.

For example, in the Ministry of Regional Development, according to the approved plan, should use the formula

with the help of which it is possible to “easily” determine the number of subjects of the Russian Federation implementing programs for the harmonization of interethnic relations (the formula is taken in the form in which it was published in the documentary draft of the program - author's note).

However, it must be admitted that even if the program were financed in the amount that was originally defined for it (more than 38 billion rubles), it would hardly have caused unequivocally approving reviews. The fact is that the expected results of the program raise certain questions. For example, what did the ideological inspirers of the program mean when they mentioned in the plans “an increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves Russians or consider themselves to be a Russian nation”? If we analyze these plans, we get the following picture: if a Russian citizen, based on his ethnic roots, considers himself Russian or, for example, an Evenk, then it should be taken as a negative, against which the work of the program is directed. So, what? .. If so, then this is some kind of unsuccessful attempt to copy the Soviet experience of creating a state with a single Soviet people. Why unsuccessful? Yes, if only because any representative of the so-called Soviet people had a passport, which indicated his national identity, which he could rightly be proud of. Soviet citizen - Russian, Tatar, Azeri, Yakut, or no matter who is by nationality. And in fact, the indication of national identity in the passport did not warp anyone, and it did not hinder to profess the idea of ​​the friendship of nations. Yes, and why should warp? ..

Based on the letter of the new government program, it turns out that in Russia to call yourself a representative of any nationality, with the exception of the “nationality,” Russian is a moveton. What an oddity? .. Why under the guise of improving relations between the peoples of Russia at the government level to try to eliminate the diverse national composition of the country? By this, our government somehow clumsily tries to repeat not even the Soviet, but overseas experience, changing the rule “you live in the USA, which means that your nationality is American.” Really, in our Cabinet someone, having seen enough of the so-called exhibition clips about life in the States, seriously believes that in the USA such an approach led to the complete leveling of nationalistic manifestations ...

In order to transform Russian society into an objectively unified one, one should not try to artificially increase the number of those who are confident that interethnic tensions are over, but to make all citizens, without exception, equal before the law. Namely, everyone, and only after that, to speak about civil tolerance, and about interethnic peace, and about solidarity ... However, for some reason, the Federal Target Program does not have this item ... Apparently, the government has not got enough money to “level off” Russians enough. Or courage ... And if someone strives to be “more equal” than others, will the adopted FTP work? Again these rhetorical questions ...

Comments

[Hleb]

Well, statistics ...

considering themselves Russians or considering themselves to be Russian nation - up to 74%;

[Alexander Romanov]

For example, in the Ministry of Regional Development, according to the approved plan, should use the formula
I looked at this formula and realized that it would not allow it to be realized. For officials, the slate will move out looking at it

[Tersky]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

The officials slate will move out looking at her

Sasha ! That's right, they adhere to an unwritten rule -

[duke]

But what, fathers and brothers, do you think that our prime minister can roll something worthwhile that will benefit us? In my opinion, the tasks are completely different ...

[Hleb]

and what does the prime minister decide chtoli? There’s no one else to catch on? not at all? how can one prime minister roll out and approve, solve some kind of question, just tell us?

[ksan]

Gleb (1) RU Yesterday, 16:19 ↑

and what does the prime minister decide chtoli? There’s no one else to catch on? not at all? how can one prime minister roll out and approve, solve some kind of question, just tell us?

The chairman of the government must organize the work of the government, give instructions, demand and monitor their implementation by members of the government. Unfortunately, Medvedev does not organize, demand, control, much less force or punish for non-compliance no one can. He only "asks", "to raise the degree of responsibility at least to 40", in general, "freedom is better than lack of freedom." He reminds me of something Gorbachev, the same ... bolobol

[mole]

But what, fathers and brothers, do you think that our prime minister can roll something worthwhile that will benefit us? In my opinion, the tasks are completely different ...

One hope that our prime minister still has nothing but verbal on the nose!
In this case, it’s better to cut the money, and even better, put that money into REAL production or social programs!

[duke]

but shaw, Kadyrov will easily apply the formula and Allah will send more money, Abdulatipov and so on. thought giants are also strong in math ...

[Su24]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

For example, in the Ministry of Regional Development, according to the approved plan, should use the formula
I looked at this formula and realized that it would not allow it to be realized. For officials, the slate will move out looking at it

And well, that will not allow. One of its authors - Vladimir Zorin, I saw him, a rare reptile, has been working since the Gorbachev era. This new program is tracing paper from the 1996 national program, which was written with a European capra, i.e. it is a multiculturalism program. Just look at this schizophrenic statement, where the halves of the sentence mutually annihilate the whole point:

Strengthening the unity of the Russian nation and ethnocultural development of the peoples of Russia

Zorin, by the way, said exactly this in front of me. Then, without blushing, he said that the word "nation" can simultaneously mean two different concepts. In general, such nonsense, it is good if this program is released on the brakes, and these several billion rubles are simply stolen.

[Hleb]

Then, without blushing, he said that the word "nation" can simultaneously mean two different concepts.

he probably meant "national state" and "nation-state". And in fact, he has not so few supporters

[Kibalchish]

As before, the concept of "Russian" was replaced by the "Soviet people", now by mythical Russians.
When will it be written in the constitution, that ...
Russia is first and foremost a state of the Russian people ...

[Hleb]

so far so:
Art. 3:
1. The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.
3. The highest direct an expression of the power of the people are a referendum and free elections. (In which referendum did we speak out for Russian nationality?)

Art. 26:
1. Everyone has the right to determine and indicate his nationality. No one may be forced to determine and indicate his nationality.

[duke]

so for this, panimash, to understand that Russians and Russians are one and the same thing, this is the self-name of the same Russian people ... like that, dear, panimash, Russians

[Su24]

Quote: duke

so for this, panimash, to understand that Russians and Russians are one and the same thing, this is the self-name of the same Russian people ... like that, dear, panimash, Russians

What kind of nonsense, since when ??

[duke]

Well, why immediately nonsense ....
Most likely they meant "ROSSY"
ROSS (Ushak.) -, Ross, m. (Obsolete. Poet. Torzh.). Russian, Victory Thunder ring out, have fun brave Ross! Derzhavin. Who will stand in an unequal dispute: puffy lyakh il faithful Ross? Pushkin. I am a true Ross! Nekrasov. Note. In addition also grew: Great Russian or Great Russian.
Today, the word "ROSS" is often used by nationalists in combination "True Ross"
Source: Ushakov Dictionary.

[Ivan.]

Quote: duke

To understand that Russians and Russians are one and the same thing, this is the self-name of the same Russian people

Inaccurate understanding, the Russian people initially consists of many peoples, the number of which has constantly grown due to the "absorption, acceptance" of other peoples. And as in languages ​​there are adverbs that only enrich the language, so the Russian people consists of many peoples, though at different stages of assimilation (not in terms of "reprogramming" a smaller people, but in terms of the organic interweaving of cultures) for various reasons and because of external opposition and internal contradictions. But the essence is the infusion of another nationality into the Russian people, enriching both sides, and if in the process some features of the self-identity of some people dissolve, this means that these distinctive features, apart from distinction, division, did not carry anything. Russia is a territorial entity and, like the Soviet Union, Alaska, Africa, America, cannot carry information about national self-identity, the concept of a Russian is not legitimate in this regard.

[Basileus]

I like the way our nationalists go wild with fat. At the same time, they speak of Russian oppression. In a recent article there was generally a line about pogroms on a national basis in Bashkiria. True, to my question, where and when these pogroms occurred, there was no answer.

Probably, I lived in a megatolerant society - in a military town of a multinational region, and Tatars, Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Bashkir, Moldovans, Kyrgyz, Korean, Mari and many others studied in my class. Everyone did not care who you were by nationality. And now, except, perhaps, the most stubborn Bashkirs, whom even in power there are not so many. What prevents you from living the same way?

[Hleb]

Tatars, Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Bashkir, Moldovan, Kyrgyz, Korean, Mari and many others studied in my class.

in our class there were no less nationalities and no hatred! but again and again I hear this generalization of nationalism ((

[Hleb]

here he is a nationalist (and Putin says that this is unacceptable). and thanks to this, the Jews did not dissolve. so is he wrong, for the benefit of the Jews?

[Fin]

Yes, do not delve into the topic. Everything is much simpler. Someone in the Ministry of Regional Development urgently needed loot (spent heavily). The fact that they cut 5,5 times suggests that no one is interested in the topic. But the go-ahead is received.
But it should be noted how officials became inventive, developed a virtual program for dozens of sheets, and the expected results are a masterpiece. I wonder how they will report, I would like to read.
Who generally approves these FTPs?

[Su24]

Quote: Basileus

Probably, I lived in a megatolerant society - in a military town of a multinational region, and Tatars, Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Bashkir, Moldovans, Kyrgyz, Korean, Mari and many others studied in my class. Everyone did not care who you were by nationality. And now, except, perhaps, the most stubborn Bashkirs, whom even in power there are not so many. What prevents you from living the same way?

And at the same time in Bashkiria all power already belongs to almost one Bashkirs, and without knowledge of the Bashkir they are not accepted into the administration.

[Basileus]

Oh, yes, tell Tolkachev, the chairman of Kurultay. Or Khamitov, who is either a Tatar or a Bashkir, but at the same time he can hardly speak Bashkir, and only then when he does it. Or Kachkaev - a spilled Bashkir.

Lafa was at Murtaz, now they have calmed down.

[Fedych]

The real and objective condition of Russia, the Russians, and the Russians themselves, as they all conceptualize, cement and enlighten, strengthen only depends on the level of understanding of themselves and the Russians themselves. And this is a question - who are we? - what, how, why and where we are moving, why we live, and why we have some right or obligation to ask for all this from one of our other possible ones. And here is the answer! The Orthodox Faith was inherited and pleasant by all Russians in Byzantium through Byzantium, which inherited it from the Jews and through Jews in the Spirit and Truth - and stayed on those who accepted the Lord Jesus from the Jews and spread after the New Testament and others and others. So, while the Russians and Russians were Orthodox both in Life and in the Spirit, the Lord gave them, as once the Jews of VZ, everything and everything gave them victory, meaning, and any other earthly success. But as in Byzantium, as the faith diminishes, everything
the earthly, non-pagan spirit not from the Almighty acquired a greater factor, and in Russia, for hundreds of years narrowly and purely Russian-Slavic understandings and preferences in perceiving both the Sloven of God and His essence — have long been replaced from the universal and universally binding Russian self with its inevitable, namely_ by non-Orthodox, enlightenment, and bringing their other peoples to the One Truth, the Source, the Spring, the Revision, the Generating and Maintaining All Beginning, and to the decay and whim of the asleep Russian God with its specifically tribal antichrist soul and the stench of corruption, darkness and paganism and Russian poof . And it is precisely for this reason that others have the right and must oppose this phase of Russian pofigism both in relation to their living Faith and Culture yesterday, and in relation to these new barbarians to their own uniquely understood originality and purpose of their existence

[Fedych]

I apologize for the errors! - I tried, but could not open the text possible for the correction.

[Hleb]

there are no mistakes, here the "sistemnik" needs to be changed) in order to limit from any external influences
with understanding!

[the polar]

There is no "Russian nation", you will not find such a nation in any reference book or textbook. There is a Russian nation, a state-forming nation.
Such a revealingly dismissive attitude of the authorities towards this fact testifies to its Russophobic policy, because a healthy, united Russian nation poses a mortal threat to the comprador Kremlin regime.
The regime understands this very well and will use all available means to pursue an anti-Russian tolerant policy

[alebor]

People who use the term “Russian nation” make me very suspicious. It seems that they speak English better than Russian. In Russian, the concept of “nation” is traditionally ethnic, while in English, “nation” has more different meanings, this is an ethnicity and citizenship, and even a country is often called this word. It is enough to glance at the Russian passport: where “citizenship” is written in Russian, “nationality” stands in English. If for the English-speaking “nationality-Russian Federation” it sounds quite normal, for Russian “nationality-Russian Federation” is completely absurd. The nationality is Russian, Tatar, Chukchi, etc. In the Soviet Union it was constantly said that more than 100 nations and nationalities live in the USSR (or, as an option in the RSFSR). So what after the 1991 year did all these nations magically turn into one Russian? Nonsense. Therefore, when I hear from the government official the mention of the “Russian nation”, the phrase sounding like a bad translation from English, the phrase from the famous movie involuntarily pops up in my head: “And the Cossack is mishandled!”.
PS
The government's desire to unite the peoples of Russia, to develop in them a sense of patriotism, is understandable. Yes, only planned measures, numbers and percentages can not do anything here. It will be as wasteful and pointless a waste of money as renaming the police to the police. People become patriots of a country when they can be proud of its achievements. Her science, art, economy, army, international influence, social policy. When the state is increasingly refusing its social obligations, when the economy is the extraction of minerals, when the entire state apparatus is affected by corruption and its main concern is where to find what else can be privatized and "sawed", when a huge number of highly qualified specialists and scientists, and in return we get hordes of Asian "guest workers", when citizens see only collapse, degradation and no achievements, then what is there to be proud of? Almost nothing. Only the great Russian or Soviet history remains, but here the “Russian nation” is completely out of place.

[Hleb]

There is no "Russian nation", you will not find such a nation in any reference book or textbook

There is a Russian nation, state-forming.

and what documents are fixed in it?
and generally about the Russophobic regime, you can not so acutely

[Theophanes]

Until the liberals have the power trough in the constitution it will not be written: "Russia is the state of the Russian people ...", but the Tatars wrote this and put it on everyone who lives in Tatarstan! Soon everyone else will write the same.

[Airman]

Quote: Gleb

Well, statistics ...

considering themselves Russians or considering themselves to be Russian nation - up to 74%;

They just decided to "make" migrant workers who received Russian citizenship Russians, and at the same time earn extra money. First, on the granting of citizenship, and then from the budget for the "done" work.

[starshina78]

Another nonsense of the Government! How can a people and state, a Chechen and a Russian, a Jew and a German, a Ukrainian and a Chukchi, a billionaire and a beggar be united? How ? If the Ministry of Regional Development will come up with this, then he needs to give the Nobel Prize. Never and under no circumstances make friends the Russian and a resident of the North Caucasus (if only they will steal together, or some other reason). Two Chechen companies, cut off genitals and heads of Russian children, will never rally these people. But how to rally around the national idea of ​​a billionaire, who is delivered oysters and a beggar for breakfast from France, who sometimes eats nothing for two days? How to unite the worker and the owner of the enterprise, if the worker gets a dozen breaking down and swallowing dust in the workshop, rides home in a stuffy bus, and the owner flies to work by helicopter and still accuses the worker that he does not work well and does not live up to his, the owner, hope? I do not understand ? In the USSR, yes, there was a national idea, there was a single impulse, there were hopes for a bright future (here it comes, and now, bang, and perestroika), there was stability and faith in the future and social guarantees. Everyone knew that the time would come, let's go to study, then work, then marriage, an apartment from the factory, then a resettlement apartment for children, a free ticket to the Minvody or another sanatorium, a pension, and a free wreath from the union for the funeral. All ! What now ? How to rally if I don’t know what will happen tomorrow, when I wake up, what surprise should I expect from the Government, what have they raised the price for, what have they paid for? There will be no unity of the nation until there is something supernatural (for example: the invasion of aliens). Then, YES! All to fight humanoids! Atu them!

[shurup]

One out of two. Either by 2020, as a result of the program, the nation will finally strengthen, or additional funding will be required to improve the mathematical apparatus.
When Mitrofanushka was asked about his nationality, the answer was proud: "I am a nobleman."

[Alez]

an increase in the level of tolerance towards representatives of other nationalities - up to 85%;
For this, as I understand it, millions of migrant workers legally enter Russia, with such success, a program will soon be adopted on the tolerant attitude of visitors to the indigenous population.

[pinecone]

Quote: Gleb

Well, statistics ...

considering themselves Russians or considering themselves to be Russian nation - up to 74%;

They did not even consider it necessary to indicate who would be included in the remaining 26 percent. And what is the difference between "counting" and "reckoning" is also unclear.

[nemec55]

Some programs, subsidies, I haven’t yet felt one while living in the village. Here is one program that has been and still is, work has to be done 100 km from the house and the roads are getting more expensive. I wanted to get a loan without interest, so you have to work in the village, and where ?

[baltika-18]

I always associate the word "Russian" with the face of a drunken Babai. So in 74% I definitely won't go in. Russian I. What the hell do they want from me? How interesting are they going to bring to life?

[duke]

what the hell? and they want to rummage in your brains so that they move away to the side and you consider yourself to be the same dumbass, not Russian at all, panimash, but a mythical rosian ... these are squash ...

[soldier's grandson]

the government is already behaving inappropriately, complete nonsense, how does it want to resolve this issue? acting anti-Russian methods wants to increase some kind of unity there, I think that decided to cover the stolen money with this topic

[duke]

you see in the root, as Kozma Prutkov taught, but in fact, what did you expect from the premiere, curly-haired boy?

[APASUS]

Quote: Soldier's grandson

the government is already behaving inappropriately, complete nonsense, how does it want to resolve this issue? acting anti-Russian methods wants to increase some kind of unity there, I think that decided to cover the stolen money with this topic

Along the way, reducing funding for maternity capital and social benefits. It seems that there is not enough money for a cut, the conclusion is to come up with an immense and incomprehensible movement towards becoming aware of Russians.

[vladsolo56]

Everything is right, all citizens of Russia should have the same rights and duties, only at present, national hostility, and often hatred, has reached such proportions, then force decisions can no longer be done. But again, within the framework of the law, even existing laws make it possible to punish quite severely those who sow national hatred. The question is, the law should be applied, but not selectively, but to anyone who violates it. Particularly aggressive proponents of hatred are punished for life. So if you count on simple propaganda, the case is empty and unpromising.

[soldier's grandson]

national hostility appears among the visitors of the Caucasus and Asia, I am against such unity, we must take into account the experience of the USSR, when Budyonny’s troops instilled such experience in Asia

[vladsolo56]

Again a delusion or something worse. Believe me, the bulk of the population in Central Asia or the Caucasus, like all of us, just lives, just works. He doesn’t feel any special hatred. You see only those representatives who behave rude and brazenly, immediately transfer everything you see to the rest. By the way, they think exactly the same about Russians in other countries, where our compatriots get drunk, rowdy, rude. Everything is elementary simple and once again for the dull, it is necessary for the law to be equal for all, only justice can unite everyone. As you put it, Budyonny’s experience will further fuel national hatred, and only a weak person can not understand it .....

[matross]

Quote: vladsolo56

they think exactly the same about Russians in other countries, where our compatriots get drunk, rowdy, rude.

If the "other countries" are Turkey, then yes, probably. There, for some reason, bydlyak pulls like a magnet. In other countries, Russians are one of the favorite tourists. Especially in comparison with the Germans and the British. Those who travel a lot will confirm.

[Far East]

Quote: vladsolo56

By the way, they think exactly the same about Russians in other countries, where our compatriots get drunk, rowdy, rude.

respected! in vain you have been so much where I have been, and I dare to assure you that other nations are more

[vladsolo56]

I’m not talking about who and how they behave, I’m talking about the fact that on isolated examples, a perverse attitude towards the nation as a whole is specially created. The media inflate, embellish and give out as an immutable fact. So it is with us only in relation to other visitors. After all, the main thing is to create an image, to find an enemy not at home, not among "our own". It is convenient when there is someone to turn society's attention to if necessary.

[Far East]

Well, and what do we now do with our "image" our brains in others do not stick!

[vladsolo56]

And here is our image? I'm talking about stereotypes. As we are accustomed to think about in the West, so we are now instilling stereotypes about Caucasians and residents of Central Asia. We are persistently implanted that all the inhabitants of the Caucasus hate Russians, that all the citizens of Central Asia only dream of how to destroy the Russians. How much can you subscribe to stupid things. After all, I wrote a comment on the attack on the suppression of all non-Russians by the Budyonny method, what is not clear here

[makst83]

Good intentions, but ... it smells like a saw! "An increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves Russians or who consider themselves to be the Russian nation - up to 74%" .... only us, Russians, 80%, will we lower the percentage !?
"An increase in the level of tolerance towards representatives of other nationalities - up to 85%" ... national minorities themselves can do this!

[Asan Ata]

The goal is national unity. The tool is the right working laws and constitutional rights. What can I say - of course this is very important. But is it possible?

[pahom54]

... "In order to turn Russian society into an objectively unified society, one should not try to artificially increase the number of those who are sure that interethnic tensions are over, but make all citizens without exception equal before the law" ...
Yes, and those same people of Caucasian ethnicity in Russian cities, often behaving as if they are not subject to Russian law, are FORCED TO MAKE RESPECT FOR THE RUSSIAN LAWS ...
And in general, this is all somehow far-fetched, far-fetched ... Unity ... As far as I remember, both in the USSR and in Russia the most oppressed people turned out to be Russian, they are like a "galley slave" (well, just like our President) and even worse worked for other republics, mainly Caucasian and Asian ... And the RSFSR was the largest and poorest republic as part of the republics ... And now someone is starting to teach someone tolerance in national relations ... Everything is much easier, without any federal programs: Russian lives in an area with a predominant population of some nationality - let him respect the laws of the majority. The same applies to other nationalities living in areas where the Russian population predominates. As a result, there will always be good-neighborly, friendly relations, and these people will not even think about the nationality of a neighbor or work colleague. As a result, the WORLD, FRIENDSHIP and the Government with its programs are not needed ...

[Nikey]

it’s a good idea, in the Orenburg region, they don’t even think about who is of any nationality, there are a lot of peoples, the media just love to inflate crimes according to their ethnicity. I have Tatars Caucasians Kazakhs Germans Russian Ukrainians are friends and everyone lives in Orenburg or the region. This is another program for luring the dough from the population

[Alyoha]

Send Medvedev to the Caucasus, let the Chechens assimilate, but the tales about our brotherhood will sing, they will quickly cut his head off there. Although such stupid thoughts will not be born, let it be better for sick children to allocate funds. He sniffs the glue on the campaign))) or an unwise person (which is unlikely) "an increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves Russians or consider themselves to be a Russian nation - up to 74%" - Russians 81%, that is, Dimon and his ministers, stubbornness and they even forgot how to count. Because in order to bring it to 74%, it is necessary to genocide 5%, that is, 5,6 million Russians.

[vadimN]

Having read the main provisions of this federal target program, I involuntarily come to the conclusion that this is not a program for the unity of the Russian people, but a program to teach the RUSSIAN people to the dominance of migrants.

[Letterksi]

Probably, the point of the program is to milk the people in the "dark", not really devoting the population to the details. The stake is placed on brainlessness. I wonder how long the government of erefia will think that the people are without brains? It's time to prove the opposite

[varov14]

Prove when from the head wears off "if only there was no war"

[Sergey Medvedev]

In 1998, he accepted replenishment from Dagestan, about 30 people. From Kizil-Yurt district I talked with them in the club. Their idol was Basaev (then still alive). Only a few recruits were silent, they did not contradict the majority. And am I one nation with them ???? Russians ???? Do not wait !! I AM RUSSIAN.

[Flooding]

Quote: article

promoting ethnocultural diversity and socio-economic development of the peoples of Russia

That is, it is proposed to develop not all of the Russian people together, but each nation individually?
What kind of tongue-tied amateurs are sitting there, speaking of the unity of the people of Russia, they declare development peoples.

Quote: article

an increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves Russians or who identify themselves as Russian nations - up to 74%;
an increase in the level of tolerance towards representatives of other nationalities - up to 85%;
increase in the number of citizens who would positively characterize the state of interethnic relations in the Russian Federation - up to 65%

Well, I don’t understand, or are they rams or do they consider us to be such? I bow to the second option. But how dare they splurge on MOST? This is a mystery.
Why 74%, and not, say, 76,5%? And where do they get the numbers and how will they report on the execution of the program? Surveys in all regions, cities and villages?
And what is behind this strange figure of 74%?
Today, less than 74% of Russia's population feels their involvement in the Russian nation?
Or today, less than 74% of the Russian population of Russian nationality want to mold themselves to the label "Russian"?
What is behind this empty chatter?

I propose another program to address the issue of unity of the people of Russia, STEP BY STEP:
an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 65%
an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 74%
an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 85%

[Majordok]

In my yard of young "Russians", dark-skinned black-headed people run around much more than Slavs. Native Siberians, damn it!

[Siberian]

Quote: MajorDok

In my yard of young "Russians", dark-skinned black-headed people run around much more than Slavs. Native Siberians, damn it!

The Siberian peoples (indigenous) were not originally Slavs, mostly black-headed ... There are no contradictions here ...

[Majordok]

You understand what I meant, we won’t go deep into history, they write that the Sarmatians from Siberia came)))

[Goldmitro]

<<< To turn Russian society into an objectively unified society, one should not try to artificially increase the number of those who are sure that interethnic tensions are over, but make all citizens without exception equal before the law. >>>
That's it! It is necessary that all nations in Russia live according to the laws of the Russian Federation, and not so that some are guided by these laws, while others, only declaring their adherence to these laws, continue to live according to their ethno-tribal clan-clan customs, which in practice reject the equality of all before the law, giving ITS frank priority: fellow tribesmen, members of a kind, clan and, moreover, protecting them with all this ethnic community in violation of the laws of the Russian Federation, which leads to inequality of opportunity, inequality before the laws! As a result, we have a nepotism in power structures, especially in national republics, where occupation requires not skills and knowledge, but membership in a particular tribe! And so EVERYWHERE! the federal government is not struggling with this, it is on the occasion, although this is the main obstacle to the unity of the nations of the Russian Federation, the elimination of interethnic conflicts and tensions between them!

[Yarosvet]

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[Yarosvet]

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[Savva30]

How did they get these "initially dead" projects. They already did things when they stopped controlling migration and started, in their opinion, a "good deed" with the resettlement of Caucasians to other regions. Settle them in your Kremlin. Let them cormorant there, scratch eggs and trade. The worst thing is that the resettlement exacerbates the situation, but the officials cannot (or do not want) to admit it ...

[Russian_Prapor]

Personally, I am RUSSIAN and proud of it. As for tolerance or tolerance there, these words mean nothing to me, I am more used to shooting. So the government can put such initiatives in its ass. And it would be better for them to do this voluntarily and independently, while the people had patience with me. Shot Serdyukov and Chubais, and send the families of these traitors to the development of the New Siberia island.

[dmb]

A number of fans of the current government love to send everyone to the site to demonstrate their achievements: "Made in Russia". True, most of the enumerated has nothing to do with the authorities, but the program under discussion should be put in there. Very, very revealing.

[Gomunkul]

increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves to be Russians or consider themselves to be the Russian nation - up to 74%

So the business of growing cosmopolitans without relatives lives on.

[Yuri Y.]

an increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves Russians or who identify themselves as Russian nations - up to 74%;

In my opinion there is a substitution of the concept. The people can be multinational, especially Russian (determined by the adjective). But a nation is determined by blood origin and not territorially. Geographically, we the Russian people should think about some compromises between our nations. And compliance with the laws of the country is fundamental.

[gameover65]

government and people are at different poles.
Apparently, the government is really occupational.
Russia is not a mono-ethnic state. The census showed that more than 80% of the population is Russian.
Kazakhstan, for example, is mono-ethnic, with a percentage of Kazakhs a little over 60.
we do not need to try to adjust to the decrees and laws of this government. we need to understand that we are under occupation.

[Yarosvet]

Quote: gameover65

we need to understand that we are under occupation.

Have you seen the occupying forces somewhere? Which country?

Quote: gameover65

Russia is not a mono-ethnic state.

[gameover65]

nice man, pulling phrases out of context and depriving them of their original meaning is not beautiful.
I said

Russia is not a mono-ethnic state. The census showed that more than 80% of the population is Russian.

I meant why Russia is not mono-ethnic, but multinational, if the census suggests otherwise.

[Marek Rozny]

Quote: gameover65

Kazakhstan, for example, is mono-ethnic, with a percentage of Kazakhs a little over 60.

Shaw for nonsense about mono-nationality of Kazakhstan? in Kazakhstan, they are proud of their ethnic diversity, and the word "tolerance" in KZ is a word with a respectful connotation, and not obo as in Russia. the concepts of "tolerast" and so on are absent in the KZ at all.
at the same time, state ideology clearly says that Kazakhstanis are an integral concept, and we all proudly call ourselves Kazakhstanis, not forgetting our own ethnic roots.
May 1 in Kazakhstan is called "the day of unity people of Kazakhstan"although at first this holiday was called" the day of unity peoples of Kazakhstan". In Kazakhstan - one people, one nation - Kazakhstanis. At the same time, everyone is proud of their Turkic, Slavic, German, Greek, Jewish, Korean and other roots.
When a Kazakhstani with a Russian or Caucasian surname wins at the Olympics, tears of pride for the country and its representatives flow from Kazakhs with Kazakh surnames. As Russia commented on the victories of non-Russian Russians, I don’t want to remember ... In this case, yes - Kazakhstan is a mono-ethnic state. And we don’t bother with any ethnic origin of a scumbag-rapist or a runaway oligarch. They disgrace not Kazakhs, Russians or Caucasians, but the whole of Kazakhstan.

[family tree]

Ah, well done. Keep it up!

[gameover65]

Quote: gameover65

government and people are at different poles.
Apparently, the government is really occupational.
Russia is not a mono-ethnic state. The census showed that more than 80% of the population is Russian.
Kazakhstan, for example, is mono-ethnic, with a percentage of Kazakhs a little over 60.
we do not need to try to adapt to the decrees and laws of this government. we need to understand that we are under occupation.

[gameover65]

Quote: gameover65

government and people are at different poles.
Apparently, the government is really occupational.
Russia is not a mono-ethnic state. The census showed that more than 80% of the population is Russian.
Kazakhstan, for example, is mono-ethnic, with a percentage of Kazakhs a little over 60.
we do not need to try to adapt to the decrees and laws of this government. we need to understand that we are under occupation.

[washi]

"Strengthening the unity of the Russian nation ..."
And who are the Russians?
Without an answer to this question, the allocation of money is theft.
There is an adjective: Russian. These are those who live by the general rules and rules of their country and spit on nationality and religion.
The word "Russian" is unknown to me and not clear

[Flooding]

Quote: Vasya

There is an adjective: Russian. These are those who live by the general rules and rules of their country and spit on nationality and religion.

Minus to you, dear. Again you are for yours.
Suvorov Alexander Vasilyevich, Nakhimov Pavel Stepanovich, Brusilov Aleksei Alekseevich ...
They are not Russian? Oh, Vasya-Vasya ...

[repytw]

Can anyone explain what "all-Russian civil patriotism and solidarity" is, maybe military patriotism and solidarity are something else?

[varov14]

Something seems to me that all these opuses were written with the submission of the State Department; from all this, I become an ardent nationalist, to say the least. In the times of the USSR, I did not care about nationalities; I was completely tolerant - worse than an internationalist. Maybe this is the goal - to make enemies of your neighbors?

[varov14]

Quote: Flood

Quote: article

promoting ethnocultural diversity and socio-economic development of the peoples of Russia

That is, it is proposed to develop not all of the Russian people together, but each nation individually?
What kind of tongue-tied amateurs are sitting there, speaking of the unity of the people of Russia, they declare development peoples.

Quote: article

an increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves Russians or who identify themselves as Russian nations - up to 74%;
an increase in the level of tolerance towards representatives of other nationalities - up to 85%;
increase in the number of citizens who would positively characterize the state of interethnic relations in the Russian Federation - up to 65%

Well, I don’t understand, or are they rams or do they consider us to be such? I bow to the second option. But how dare they splurge on MOST? This is a mystery.
Why 74%, and not, say, 76,5%? And where do they get the numbers and how will they report on the execution of the program? Surveys in all regions, cities and villages?
And what is behind this strange figure of 74%?
Today, less than 74% of Russia's population feels their involvement in the Russian nation?
Or today, less than 74% of the Russian population of Russian nationality want to mold themselves to the label "Russian"?
What is behind this empty chatter?

I propose another program to address the issue of unity of the people of Russia, STEP BY STEP:
an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 65%
an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 74%
an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 85%

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I propose a radical one-time program - all 85% of the "patriots" of the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation will be sent to Siberia, but not to the mastered one, or else they will do hell.

[varov14]

Quote: Flood

Quote: article

promoting ethnocultural diversity and socio-economic development of the peoples of Russia

That is, it is proposed to develop not all of the Russian people together, but each nation individually?
What kind of tongue-tied amateurs are sitting there, speaking of the unity of the people of Russia, they declare development peoples.

Quote: article

an increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves Russians or who identify themselves as Russian nations - up to 74%;
an increase in the level of tolerance towards representatives of other nationalities - up to 85%;
increase in the number of citizens who would positively characterize the state of interethnic relations in the Russian Federation - up to 65%

Well, I don’t understand, or are they rams or do they consider us to be such? I bow to the second option. But how dare they splurge on MOST? This is a mystery.
Why 74%, and not, say, 76,5%? And where do they get the numbers and how will they report on the execution of the program? Surveys in all regions, cities and villages?
And what is behind this strange figure of 74%?
Today, less than 74% of Russia's population feels their involvement in the Russian nation?
Or today, less than 74% of the Russian population of Russian nationality want to mold themselves to the label "Russian"?
What is behind this empty chatter?

I propose another program to address the issue of unity of the people of Russia, STEP BY STEP:
an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 65%
an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 74%
an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 85%

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I propose a radical one-time program - all 85% of the "patriots" of the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation will be sent to Siberia, but not to the mastered one, or else they will do hell.

[serge]

An attempt to directly copy the Soviet experience. Like any secondary in history, according to a well-known expression, it is repeated as a farce, which is well understood by those who cut funding by six times. The program, in principle, is not feasible for a number of reasons.
Firstly, once the Russian people were already told that he was Soviet, then they were again told that he was Russian, now they’ll change their name again? You can inspire one person to call yourself differently several times, you can inspire a whole nation to call yourself differently once, but you cannot inspire the whole people, and the same people, without a generation gap, to change their name several times in a row.
Secondly, in the Soviet times the nationalities did not consider themselves Soviet, only Russians.
Thirdly, the word "Russian" is not "smooth" in pronunciation, "language catches", unlike the word "Soviet", for example, and according to the laws of language development, even with the current information telebombing, it cannot take root, at least in such short historical period.
If the creators of "the unity of the nation" really wanted national unity, they would instill in Russia's national minorities that they are Russians. This would have a huge chance of success and, most likely, would be supported by the Russians. But since such programs are written by the enemies of the Russian people and are aimed at the collapse of the state under the flag of unity, they cannot pursue this.

[alone]

The total funding of the program amounted to 6,76 billion rubles, of which two-thirds will be allocated from the federal treasury, and the remaining third from the regional and municipal budgets.

mmm, even the amount is written how much they will spend on it. I wonder what pockets will get this money))

oh yes, the budget deficit is 500 billion, it says every ruble in the account, but here’s 6,5 billion to you. on a very dubious project

[GUSAR]

I AM RUSSIAN!!! AND I WILL NOT BE OTHERS !!!

[Max otto]

This is where they get such leaders and officials? After all, even the article shows that they really have three classes of a parish school, and then they kicked out! Even a person with secondary education should be clear: the state is the Russian Federation, the FEDERATION! What, at the level of definition, implies MULTI-nationality! What kind of nation is Russian? Is Russian a citizenship, and Russian is a nationality, and why the heck is there something else to come up with? The best way to strengthen the country, for its unity and raising authority in the world is an honest and fair leadership, everything, everything else becomes unnecessary, including such programs. Oh, how I want the Blue cap, leather jacket and Mauser.

[family tree]

I am a techie, a sapper, I’m not a stranger to mathematics. Algebra only harmony
Will explain. Arkhangelsk region-boiler. Here, probably all nationalities were noted. And all melted. It turns out that as a joke, in conversation, you can call a cholovik by the name of Yanchenko, tse Zakabluk and om, for not telling me where he got the mushrooms, on Saturday and not giving my place to friends, but if someone calls him ohm for emphasis of skinheads, and there are such, he, the previous one, will say that, they say, follow your course (what is it, ask marimans), if you don’t understand, they’ll draw a path with their nose in the dust (well, there’s no asphalt in the outback, well, not fate, apparently, has not yet been laid), on the other hand, happiness, on the asphalt, at such a distance and without a nose you can stay.
On the other hand, a cupcake arrived, began to beat the show-off, they say he was cool, then disappeared. Then he arrived, either dad, or uncle, or grandfather, we still didn’t understand what he was saying, almost in Russian that they would come and cut out our whole village, in general, we didn’t understand him, just asked, maybe he needs money for a ticket? So it’s possible in the woods, on the straight lines, and even to Moscow, and why, I have a grandfather who, on my father’s, went there twice, and even so, Mikhail Vasilich, Lomonosov who is one and a half times more than my grandfather I ran. No, the men say they would have spent, some promised to show the grave, for a fee, of course, mdya. But, even the frightened off was obvious, the business went wrong. In general, screwed up, the old man, at the station, only he was seen. Well, we’ve already been waiting for six years, all the waitresses have eaten, when will he bring the tour, he promised after all. they’re waiting, Bulbashs, Germans, Moldavians, Tatars, Chuvashs, Udmurts, Jews, Georgians, Ossetians, and other different Russians, no, I’m not waiting anymore, I’m somewhere from the first second and third, well, they don’t come, they show off alone.
Well, what kind of material statistics for relativities with relativities to ethymatic analysis? You need to be calmer. Respect those who understand you, and compare those who decided that everyone else, well, like by gefreyter, by shiklgruberom, this name was a nonsense.
Z.Y. From Mosinki and SCS cartridges sorry

[Cormorants]

A Russian is not a nation, it is a resident of Russia.

Quote: Kibalchish

As before, the concept of "Russian" was replaced by the "Soviet people", now by mythical Russians.
When will it be written in the constitution, that ...
Russia is first and foremost a state of the Russian people ...

I completely agree +1.

[Cormorants]

These liberals hesitated. As Kinchev sings "..- Here the word Russian is not quite politically correct, here the Russian is pure and specific .." The Russian is not a nationality, he is a resident of Russia. When they think about the Russians, we are 80,90% (2010), this is an axiom - when everything is fine with the Russians, then everything is fine with other small nations. I am not a Nazi, but a nationalist.
I remember in the Duma there was a case, in Moscow there are a lot of national schools (Armenian, Jewish, Azerbaijani, etc.) I don’t remember who, it seems that the previous Minister of Education proposed to create Russian national schools, he was immediately accused of ultra-right views.

[RUkola]

Yes, everything is many times simpler, that you are inventing everything, just a non-existent "Russian nation", you can safely plunder, and no one will make any claims, because it does not exist in reality, and since it is not, then everything will be chiki bunches