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The presence of oddities in the government program "Strengthening the unity of the Russian nation ..."

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Last week, the Russian government approved the Federal Target Program "Strengthening the unity of the Russian nation and the ethno-cultural development of the peoples of Russia", designed for the period up to 2020 year. This FTP, in turn, is the so-called program-target instrument (that’s, at least, its government determines) of the state program called “Regional Policy and Federal Relations”.


The presence of oddities in the government program "Strengthening the unity of the Russian nation ..."


If you look at the document submitted by the government of the Russian Federation, then the main goal of the work of the said Federal Program is, quote: “strengthening the unity of the multinational people of the Russian Federation (Russian nation)”, and the main tasks are defined as follows:

assistance in the formation of all-Russian civil patriotism and solidarity;

promotion of ethnocultural diversity and socio-economic development of the peoples of Russia;

promoting the harmonization of interethnic and ethnic and religious relations, as well as ensuring inter-ethnic peace and harmony.


The following are indicated as expected results of the program (materials are taken from the description of the FTP):

an increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves Russians or who identify themselves as Russian nations - up to 74%;

an increase in the level of tolerance towards representatives of other nationalities - up to 85%;

an increase in the number of citizens who would positively characterize the state of interethnic relations in the Russian Federation - to 65%;

the implementation of those programs in the regions of the Russian Federation that would be aimed at harmonizing interethnic relations, as well as at strengthening civil unity throughout Russia.


The responsible executive of the program is the Ministry of Regional Development of the Russian Federation. And, in general, the Ministry of Regional Development would already have to start working in the designated areas of strengthening equality and fraternity, but when adopting the program, an important snag cleared up ... The fact is that when the implementation plan of the federal target program appeared, the initial financing of the project listed on several dozen pages of printed text, interspersed with very impressive formulas, amounted to 38,04 billion rubles. After the peculiar adjustments of the program, which the Russian cabinet of ministers conducted, it was decided to cut funding more than 5,5 times. The final funding of the program amounted to 6,76 billion rubles, of which two thirds will be allocated from the federal treasury, and the remaining third from regional and municipal budgets.

After a more than fivefold reduction in the level of funding for the program, the question arises: is the government going to refuse to implement the overwhelming majority of designated FTP points, or will it reduce the activity for each one by 5,5? In other words, is it possible that the birth of a document called “Strengthening the unity of the Russian nation and the ethno-cultural development of the peoples of Russia” is nothing more than the appearance of another paper with promising goals and objectives, even supported by a mathematical apparatus, but not supported by financial means and sometimes common sense ...

The mathematical apparatus, it must be admitted, is more than serious, and we must pay tribute to those gentlemen who were going on the basis of mathematical formulas to increase the number of citizens who believe that inter-ethnic conflicts do not manifest themselves at all in Russia.

For example, in the Ministry of Regional Development, according to the approved plan, should use the formula


with the help of which it is possible to “easily” determine the number of subjects of the Russian Federation implementing programs for the harmonization of interethnic relations (the formula is taken in the form in which it was published in the documentary draft of the program - author's note).

However, it must be admitted that even if the program were financed in the amount that was originally defined for it (more than 38 billion rubles), it would hardly have caused unequivocally approving reviews. The fact is that the expected results of the program raise certain questions. For example, what did the ideological inspirers of the program mean when they mentioned in the plans “an increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves Russians or consider themselves to be a Russian nation”? If we analyze these plans, we get the following picture: if a Russian citizen, based on his ethnic roots, considers himself Russian or, for example, an Evenk, then it should be taken as a negative, against which the work of the program is directed. So, what? .. If so, then this is some kind of unsuccessful attempt to copy the Soviet experience of creating a state with a single Soviet people. Why unsuccessful? Yes, if only because any representative of the so-called Soviet people had a passport, which indicated his national identity, which he could rightly be proud of. Soviet citizen - Russian, Tatar, Azeri, Yakut, or no matter who is by nationality. And in fact, the indication of national identity in the passport did not warp anyone, and it did not hinder to profess the idea of ​​the friendship of nations. Yes, and why should warp? ..

Based on the letter of the new government program, it turns out that in Russia to call yourself a representative of any nationality, with the exception of the “nationality,” Russian is a moveton. What an oddity? .. Why under the guise of improving relations between the peoples of Russia at the government level to try to eliminate the diverse national composition of the country? By this, our government somehow clumsily tries to repeat not even the Soviet, but overseas experience, changing the rule “you live in the USA, which means that your nationality is American.” Really, in our Cabinet someone, having seen enough of the so-called exhibition clips about life in the States, seriously believes that in the USA such an approach led to the complete leveling of nationalistic manifestations ...

In order to transform Russian society into an objectively unified one, one should not try to artificially increase the number of those who are confident that interethnic tensions are over, but to make all citizens, without exception, equal before the law. Namely, everyone, and only after that, to speak about civil tolerance, and about interethnic peace, and about solidarity ... However, for some reason, the Federal Target Program does not have this item ... Apparently, the government has not got enough money to “level off” Russians enough. Or courage ... And if someone strives to be “more equal” than others, will the adopted FTP work? Again these rhetorical questions ...
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  1. Hleb
    Hleb 27 August 2013 08: 01 New
    +6
    Well, statistics ...
    considering themselves Russians or considering themselves to be Russian nation - up to 74%;
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 August 2013 08: 17 New
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      For example, in the Ministry of Regional Development, according to the approved plan, should use the formula

      I looked at this formula and realized that it would not allow it to be realized. For officials, the slate will move out looking at it wassat
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 27 August 2013 08: 52 New
        11
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The officials slate will move out looking at her

        Sasha hi ! That's right, they adhere to an unwritten rule -
        1. duke
          duke 27 August 2013 09: 09 New
          17
          But what, fathers and brothers, do you think that our prime minister can roll something worthwhile that will benefit us? In my opinion, the tasks are completely different ...
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 27 August 2013 16: 19 New
            0
            and what does the prime minister decide chtoli? There’s no one else to catch on? not at all? how can one prime minister roll out and approve, solve some kind of question, just tell us?
            1. ksan
              ksan 28 August 2013 10: 33 New
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              Gleb (1) RU Yesterday, 16:19 ↑

              and what does the prime minister decide chtoli? There’s no one else to catch on? not at all? how can one prime minister roll out and approve, solve some kind of question, just tell us?
              The chairman of the government must organize the work of the government, give instructions, demand and monitor their implementation by members of the government. Unfortunately, Medvedev does not organize, demand, control, much less force or punish for non-compliance no one can. He only “asks,” “to raise the degree of responsibility to at least 40,” in general, “freedom is better than non-freedom.” He reminds me of something Gorbachev, the same .... bolobol
          2. mole
            mole 27 August 2013 16: 38 New
            +2
            But what, fathers and brothers, do you think that our prime minister can roll something worthwhile that will benefit us? In my opinion, the tasks are completely different ...

            One hope that our prime minister still has nothing but verbal on the nose! fellow
            In this case, it’s better to cut the money, and even better, put that money into REAL production or social programs!
      2. duke
        duke 27 August 2013 09: 20 New
        +3
        but shaw, Kadyrov will easily apply the formula and Allah will send more money, Abdulatipov and so on. thought giants are also strong in math ...
      3. Su24
        Su24 27 August 2013 11: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov

        For example, in the Ministry of Regional Development, according to the approved plan, should use the formula

        I looked at this formula and realized that it would not allow it to be realized. For officials, the slate will move out looking at it wassat


        And well, that will not allow. One of its authors - Vladimir Zorin, I saw him, a rare reptile, has been working since the Gorbachev era. This new program is tracing paper from the 1996 national program, which was written with a European capra, i.e. it is a multiculturalism program. Just look at this schizophrenic statement, where the halves of the sentence mutually annihilate the whole point:

        Strengthening the unity of the Russian nation and ethnocultural development of the peoples of Russia


        Zorin, by the way, was exactly what he said to me. Then, without blushing, he said that the word "nation" could mean two different concepts at the same time. In general, such nonsense, it’s good if this program is released on the brakes, and these several billion rubles are simply stolen.
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 27 August 2013 11: 34 New
          0
          Then, without blushing, he said that the word "nation" could mean two different concepts at the same time.
          he probably meant "national state" and "nation-state." And his supporters are actually not so few
    2. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 27 August 2013 08: 23 New
      14
      As previously replaced the concept of "Russian" by the "Soviet people", now mythical Russians.
      When will it be written in the constitution, that ...
      Russia is first and foremost a state of the Russian people ...
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 27 August 2013 09: 08 New
        +7
        so far so:
        Art. 3:
        1. The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.
        3. The highest direct an expression of the power of the people are a referendum and free elections. (In which referendum did we speak out for Russian nationality?)

        Art. 26:
        1. Everyone has the right to determine and indicate his nationality. No one may be forced to determine and indicate his nationality.
      2. duke
        duke 27 August 2013 09: 11 New
        +1
        so for this, panimash, to understand that Russians and Russians are one and the same thing, this is the self-name of the same Russian people ... like that, dear, panimash, Russians
        1. Su24
          Su24 27 August 2013 11: 05 New
          0
          Quote: duke
          so for this, panimash, to understand that Russians and Russians are one and the same thing, this is the self-name of the same Russian people ... like that, dear, panimash, Russians


          What kind of nonsense, since when ??
          1. duke
            duke 27 August 2013 21: 49 New
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            Well, why immediately nonsense ....
            Most likely meant "ROSSY"
            ROSS (Ushak.) -, Ross, m. (Obsolete. Poet. Torzh.). Russian, Victory Thunder ring out, have fun brave Ross! Derzhavin. Who will stand in an unequal dispute: puffy lyakh il faithful Ross? Pushkin. I am a true Ross! Nekrasov. Note. In addition also grew: Great Russian or Great Russian.
            Today, the word "ROSS" is often used by nationalists in the combination "True Ross"
            Source: Ushakov Dictionary.
        2. Ivan.
          Ivan. 27 August 2013 13: 30 New
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          Quote: duke
          To understand that Russians and Russians are one and the same thing, this is the self-name of the same Russian people

          Inaccurate understanding, the Russian people initially consisted of many peoples, the number of which was constantly growing due to the "absorption, acceptance" of other peoples. And just as languages ​​have adverbs that only enrich the language, so the Russian people are made up of many peoples, though at different stages of assimilation (not in terms of “reprogramming” the smaller people, but in terms of the organic interweaving of cultures) for various reasons and because of external opposition and internal contradictions. But the essence is one pouring into the Russian people of another nationality enriching both sides, and if in the process some features of the identity of a people dissolve, this means that these distinctive features, apart from being distinguished, separated nothing. Russia is a territorial entity, and like the Soviet Union, Alaska, Africa, America cannot carry information about national identity, the concept of Russians is not valid in this regard.
      3. Basileus
        Basileus 27 August 2013 09: 15 New
        +1
        I like the way our nationalists go wild with fat. At the same time, they speak of Russian oppression. In a recent article there was generally a line about pogroms on a national basis in Bashkiria. True, to my question, where and when these pogroms occurred, there was no answer.

        Probably, I lived in a megatolerant society - in a military town of a multinational region, and Tatars, Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Bashkir, Moldovans, Kyrgyz, Korean, Mari and many others studied in my class. Everyone did not care who you were by nationality. And now, except, perhaps, the most stubborn Bashkirs, whom even in power there are not so many. What prevents you from living the same way?
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 27 August 2013 09: 21 New
          0
          Tatars, Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Bashkir, Moldovan, Kyrgyz, Korean, Mari and many others studied in my class.
          in our class there were no less nationalities and no hatred! but again and again I hear this generalization of nationalism ((
        2. Hleb
          Hleb 27 August 2013 09: 24 New
          +4
          here he is a nationalist (and Putin says that this is unacceptable). and thanks to this, the Jews did not dissolve. so is he wrong, for the benefit of the Jews?
        3. Fin
          Fin 27 August 2013 09: 39 New
          10
          Yes, do not delve into the topic. Everything is much simpler. Someone in the Ministry of Regional Development urgently needed loot (spent heavily). The fact that they cut 5,5 times suggests that no one is interested in the topic. But the go-ahead is received.
          But it should be noted how officials became inventive, developed a virtual program for dozens of sheets, and the expected results are a masterpiece. I wonder how they will report, I would like to read.
          Who generally approves these FTPs?
        4. Su24
          Su24 27 August 2013 11: 08 New
          +3
          Quote: Basileus


          Probably, I lived in a megatolerant society - in a military town of a multinational region, and Tatars, Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Bashkir, Moldovans, Kyrgyz, Korean, Mari and many others studied in my class. Everyone did not care who you were by nationality. And now, except, perhaps, the most stubborn Bashkirs, whom even in power there are not so many. What prevents you from living the same way?


          And at the same time in Bashkiria all power already belongs to almost one Bashkirs, and without knowledge of the Bashkir they are not accepted into the administration.
          1. Basileus
            Basileus 27 August 2013 12: 17 New
            +2
            Oh, yes, tell Tolkachev, the chairman of Kurultay. Or Khamitov, who is either a Tatar or a Bashkir, but at the same time he can hardly speak Bashkir, and only then when he does it. Or Kachkaev - a spilled Bashkir.

            Lafa was at Murtaz, now they have calmed down.
          2. Fedych
            Fedych 27 August 2013 16: 01 New
            -4
            The real and objective condition of Russia, the Russians, and the Russians themselves, as they all conceptualize, cement and enlighten, strengthen only depends on the level of understanding of themselves and the Russians themselves. And this is a question - who are we? - what, how, why and where we are moving, why we live, and why we have some right or obligation to ask for all this from one of our other possible ones. And here is the answer! The Orthodox Faith was inherited and pleasant by all Russians in Byzantium through Byzantium, which inherited it from the Jews and through Jews in the Spirit and Truth - and stayed on those who accepted the Lord Jesus from the Jews and spread after the New Testament and others and others. So, while the Russians and Russians were Orthodox both in Life and in the Spirit, the Lord gave them, as once the Jews of VZ, everything and everything gave them victory, meaning, and any other earthly success. But as in Byzantium, as the faith diminishes, everything
            the earthly, non-pagan spirit not from the Almighty acquired a greater factor, and in Russia, for hundreds of years narrowly and purely Russian-Slavic understandings and preferences in perceiving both the Sloven of God and His essence — have long been replaced from the universal and universally binding Russian self with its inevitable, namely_ by non-Orthodox, enlightenment, and bringing their other peoples to the One Truth, the Source, the Spring, the Revision, the Generating and Maintaining All Beginning, and to the decay and whim of the asleep Russian God with its specifically tribal antichrist soul and the stench of corruption, darkness and paganism and Russian poof . And it is precisely for this reason that others have the right and must oppose this phase of Russian pofigism both in relation to their living Faith and Culture yesterday, and in relation to these new barbarians to their own uniquely understood originality and purpose of their existence
            1. Fedych
              Fedych 27 August 2013 16: 29 New
              0
              I apologize for the errors! - I tried, but could not open the text possible for the correction.
              1. Hleb
                Hleb 27 August 2013 19: 26 New
                +2
                there are no errors, here the "system" needs to be changed) in order to limit any external influences
                with understanding!
      4. the polar
        the polar 27 August 2013 10: 10 New
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        There is no “Russian nation”, in any directory, in any textbook you will not find such a nation. There is a Russian nation, state-forming.
        Such a revealingly dismissive attitude of the authorities towards this fact testifies to its Russophobic policy, because a healthy, united Russian nation poses a mortal threat to the comprador Kremlin regime.
        The regime understands this very well and will use all available means to pursue an anti-Russian tolerant policy
        1. alebor
          alebor 27 August 2013 12: 16 New
          +9
          People who use the term “Russian nation” make me very suspicious. It seems that they speak English better than Russian. In Russian, the concept of “nation” is traditionally ethnic, while in English, “nation” has more different meanings, this is an ethnicity and citizenship, and even a country is often called this word. It is enough to glance at the Russian passport: where “citizenship” is written in Russian, “nationality” stands in English. If for the English-speaking “nationality-Russian Federation” it sounds quite normal, for Russian “nationality-Russian Federation” is completely absurd. The nationality is Russian, Tatar, Chukchi, etc. In the Soviet Union it was constantly said that more than 100 nations and nationalities live in the USSR (or, as an option in the RSFSR). So what after the 1991 year did all these nations magically turn into one Russian? Nonsense. Therefore, when I hear from the government official the mention of the “Russian nation”, the phrase sounding like a bad translation from English, the phrase from the famous movie involuntarily pops up in my head: “And the Cossack is mishandled!”. wink
          PS
          The desire of the government to unite the peoples of Russia, to develop their sense of patriotism is understandable. Yes, only planned activities, numbers and percentages can not do anything here. It will be the same waste and senseless waste of money as renaming the police to the police. People become patriots of a country when they can be proud of its achievements. Her science, art, economy, army, international influence, social policy. When the state is increasingly abandoning its social obligations, when the economy is pumping out minerals, when the entire state apparatus is stricken with corruption and its main concern is where to find what else can be privatized and “sawed”, when a huge number of highly qualified people leave the country specialists and scientists, and in return we get hordes of Asian "guest workers", when citizens see only collapse, degradation and no achievements, what is there to be proud of? Almost nothing. Only the great Russian or Soviet history remains, but here the “Russian nation” is completely out of place.
        2. Hleb
          Hleb 27 August 2013 16: 11 New
          0
          There is no "Russian nation", in any directory, in any textbook you will not find such a nation

          There is a Russian nation, state-forming.
          and what documents are fixed in it?
          and generally about the Russophobic regime, you can not so acutely
      5. Theophanes
        Theophanes 28 August 2013 00: 18 New
        0
        While the liberals at the power trough the liberals will not write in the constitution: “Russia is the state of the Russian people ...”, but the Tatars wrote it and put it on everyone who lives in the Tatars! Soon everyone else will write it.
    3. Airman
      Airman 27 August 2013 08: 56 New
      +7
      Quote: Gleb
      Well, statistics ...
      considering themselves Russians or considering themselves to be Russian nation - up to 74%;

      They just decided that the migrant workers who received Russian citizenship would be “made” by the Russians, and at the same time they would earn extra money. First, on granting citizenship, and then from the budget for the "work" done.
    4. starshina78
      starshina78 27 August 2013 20: 55 New
      +4
      Another nonsense of the Government! How can a people and state, a Chechen and a Russian, a Jew and a German, a Ukrainian and a Chukchi, a billionaire and a beggar be united? How ? If the Ministry of Regional Development will come up with this, then he needs to give the Nobel Prize. Never and under no circumstances make friends the Russian and a resident of the North Caucasus (if only they will steal together, or some other reason). Two Chechen companies, cut off genitals and heads of Russian children, will never rally these people. But how to rally around the national idea of ​​a billionaire, who is delivered oysters and a beggar for breakfast from France, who sometimes eats nothing for two days? How to unite the worker and the owner of the enterprise, if the worker gets a dozen breaking down and swallowing dust in the workshop, rides home in a stuffy bus, and the owner flies to work by helicopter and still accuses the worker that he does not work well and does not live up to his, the owner, hope? I do not understand ? In the USSR, yes, there was a national idea, there was a single impulse, there were hopes for a bright future (here it comes, and now, bang, and perestroika), there was stability and faith in the future and social guarantees. Everyone knew that the time would come, let's go to study, then work, then marriage, an apartment from the factory, then a resettlement apartment for children, a free ticket to the Minvody or another sanatorium, a pension, and a free wreath from the union for the funeral. All ! What now ? How to rally if I don’t know what will happen tomorrow, when I wake up, what surprise should I expect from the Government, what have they raised the price for, what have they paid for? There will be no unity of the nation until there is something supernatural (for example: the invasion of aliens). Then, YES! All to fight humanoids! Atu them!
  2. shurup
    shurup 27 August 2013 08: 11 New
    +6
    One out of two. Either by 2020, as a result of the program, the nation will finally strengthen, or additional funding will be required to improve the mathematical apparatus.
    When Mitrofanushka was asked about his nationality, the answer was proud: "I am a nobleman."
  3. Alez
    Alez 27 August 2013 08: 12 New
    10
    an increase in the level of tolerance towards representatives of other nationalities - up to 85%;
    For this, as I understand it, millions of migrant workers legally enter Russia, with such success, a program will soon be adopted on the tolerant attitude of visitors to the indigenous population.
  4. pinecone
    pinecone 27 August 2013 08: 29 New
    +2
    Quote: Gleb
    Well, statistics ...
    considering themselves Russians or considering themselves to be Russian nation - up to 74%;


    They did not even consider it necessary to indicate who will be included in the remaining 26 percent. And what is the difference between “counting” and “reckoning” is also unclear.
  5. nemec55
    nemec55 27 August 2013 08: 32 New
    +2
    Some programs, subsidies, I haven’t yet felt one while living in the village. Here is one program that has been and still is, work has to be done 100 km from the house and the roads are getting more expensive. I wanted to get a loan without interest, so you have to work in the village, and where ?
  6. baltika-18
    baltika-18 27 August 2013 08: 37 New
    +8
    I always associate the word “Russian” with the face of a drunken Babay. So I definitely won’t enter 74%. Russian I. What kind of hell do they want from me? How interesting are they to put together?
    1. duke
      duke 27 August 2013 09: 15 New
      +7
      what the hell? and they want to rummage in your brains so that they move away to the side and you consider yourself to be the same dumbass, not Russian at all, panimash, but a mythical rosian ... these are squash ...
  7. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 27 August 2013 08: 56 New
    +8
    the government is already behaving inappropriately, complete nonsense, how does it want to resolve this issue? acting anti-Russian methods wants to increase some kind of unity there, I think that decided to cover the stolen money with this topic
    1. duke
      duke 27 August 2013 09: 17 New
      +5
      you see in the root, as Kozma Prutkov taught, but in fact, what did you expect from the premiere, curly-haired boy?
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 27 August 2013 20: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: soldier's grandson
      the government is already behaving inappropriately, complete nonsense, how does it want to resolve this issue? acting anti-Russian methods wants to increase some kind of unity there, I think that decided to cover the stolen money with this topic

      Along the way, reducing funding for maternity capital and social benefits. It seems that there is not enough money for a cut, the conclusion is to come up with an immense and incomprehensible movement towards becoming aware of Russians.
  8. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 27 August 2013 09: 13 New
    0
    Everything is right, all citizens of Russia should have the same rights and duties, only at present, national hostility, and often hatred, has reached such proportions, then force decisions can no longer be done. But again, within the framework of the law, even existing laws make it possible to punish quite severely those who sow national hatred. The question is, the law should be applied, but not selectively, but to anyone who violates it. Particularly aggressive proponents of hatred are punished for life. So if you count on simple propaganda, the case is empty and unpromising.
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 27 August 2013 09: 24 New
      +5
      national hostility appears among the visitors of the Caucasus and Asia, I am against such unity, we must take into account the experience of the USSR, when Budyonny’s troops instilled such experience in Asia
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 27 August 2013 09: 36 New
        +1
        Again a delusion or something worse. Believe me, the bulk of the population in Central Asia or the Caucasus, like all of us, just lives, just works. He doesn’t feel any special hatred. You see only those representatives who behave rude and brazenly, immediately transfer everything you see to the rest. By the way, they think exactly the same about Russians in other countries, where our compatriots get drunk, rowdy, rude. Everything is elementary simple and once again for the dull, it is necessary for the law to be equal for all, only justice can unite everyone. As you put it, Budyonny’s experience will further fuel national hatred, and only a weak person can not understand it .....
        1. matross
          matross 27 August 2013 12: 37 New
          +3
          Quote: vladsolo56
          they think exactly the same about Russians in other countries, where our compatriots get drunk, rowdy, rude.

          If the “other countries” are Turkey, then yes, probably. For some reason, the cattle pulls like a magnet. And in other countries, Russians are one of the favorite tourists. Especially in comparison with the Germans and the British. Who travels a lot - will confirm.
        2. Far East
          Far East 27 August 2013 12: 37 New
          +1
          Quote: vladsolo56
          By the way, they think exactly the same about Russians in other countries, where our compatriots get drunk, rowdy, rude.

          respected! in vain you have been so much where I have been, and I dare to assure you that other nations are more hi
          1. vladsolo56
            vladsolo56 27 August 2013 13: 07 New
            +2
            I’m not talking about who behaves and how, I’m talking about the fact that isolated examples specifically create a wrong attitude towards the nation as a whole. Media inflate decorate and issue as an indisputable fact. So with us only in relation to other visitors. After all, the main thing is to create an image, to find the enemy not at home, not among "your own". It is convenient when there is someone to turn the attention of society to if necessary.
            1. Far East
              Far East 27 August 2013 13: 30 New
              0
              Well, sho we now do not put our brains into strangers with our "image"! hi
              1. vladsolo56
                vladsolo56 27 August 2013 15: 06 New
                +1
                And here is our image? I'm talking about stereotypes. As we are accustomed to think about in the West, so we are now instilling stereotypes about Caucasians and residents of Central Asia. We are persistently implanted that all the inhabitants of the Caucasus hate Russians, that all the citizens of Central Asia only dream of how to destroy the Russians. How much can you subscribe to stupid things. After all, I wrote a comment on the attack on the suppression of all non-Russians by the Budyonny method, what is not clear here
  9. makst83
    makst83 27 August 2013 09: 25 New
    +4
    Good intentions, but ... it smells like a drink! "An increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves Russians or consider themselves to be the Russian nation - up to 74%" .... only we Russians 80% will reduce the percentage !?
    "Increasing the level of tolerance towards representatives of another nationality - up to 85%" ... national minorities themselves can do it!
  10. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 27 August 2013 09: 38 New
    +1
    The goal is national unity. The tool is the right working laws and constitutional rights. What can I say - of course this is very important. But is it possible?
  11. pahom54
    pahom54 27 August 2013 09: 47 New
    +7
    ... "In order to turn Russian society into an objectively unified one, one must not try to artificially increase the number of those who are sure that interethnic tension is over, but to make all citizens without exception equal before the law ..."
    Yes, and those same people of Caucasian ethnicity in Russian cities, often behaving as if they are not subject to Russian law, are FORCED TO MAKE RESPECT FOR THE RUSSIAN LAWS ...
    In general, it’s all somehow contrived, far-fetched ... Unity ... As far as I remember, in the USSR and in Russia, the most oppressed people turned out to be Russian, he is like a “slave in the galleys” (well, just like our President) and he worked even worse for other republics, mainly Caucasian and Asian .... And the RSFSR as a part of the republics was the largest and poorest republic ... And now someone is starting to teach someone tolerance in national relations ... Everything is much simpler, without any federal programs: Russian lives in an area with a predominant population of some nationality - let him respect the laws of the majority. The same applies to other nationalities living in areas where the Russian population predominates. As a result, there will always be good neighborly, friendly relations, and these people will not even think about the nationality of a neighbor or work colleague. As a result, PEACE, FRIENDSHIP and the Government with its programs are not needed ...
    1. Nikey
      Nikey 27 August 2013 10: 50 New
      +2
      it’s a good idea, in the Orenburg region, they don’t even think about who is of any nationality, there are a lot of peoples, the media just love to inflate crimes according to their ethnicity. I have Tatars Caucasians Kazakhs Germans Russian Ukrainians are friends and everyone lives in Orenburg or the region. This is another program for luring the dough from the population
  12. Alyoha
    Alyoha 27 August 2013 10: 53 New
    +9
    Send Medvedev to the Caucasus, let the Chechens assimilate, but they will sing tales about our brotherhood with them, they will quickly cut off his head there. Though such stupid thoughts will not be born, let better sick children allocate funds. He sniffs glue like a campaign))) or an unwise person (which is unlikely) "an increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves Russians or consider themselves to be the Russian nation - up to 74%" - 81% Russians, that is, Dimon and his ministers, stubbornness and even forgot how to count. Because to bring up to 74% it is necessary to genocide 5%, i.e. 5,6 million Russians.
  13. vadimN
    vadimN 27 August 2013 11: 02 New
    13
    Having read the main provisions of this federal target program, I involuntarily come to the conclusion that this is not a program for the unity of the Russian people, but a program to teach the RUSSIAN people to the dominance of migrants.
  14. Letterksi
    Letterksi 27 August 2013 11: 05 New
    +7
    Probably, the meaning of the program is to milk the people in the "dark", not really devoting the population to details. The bet is on brainlessness. It is interesting until when the government of erefii will consider that people are without brains? It's time to prove otherwise
    1. varov14
      varov14 27 August 2013 19: 33 New
      +2
      Prove when the head is eroded "if only there was no war"
  15. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 27 August 2013 11: 56 New
    10
    In 1998, he accepted replenishment from Dagestan, about 30 people. From Kizil-Yurt district I talked with them in the club. Their idol was Basaev (then still alive). Only a few recruits were silent, they did not contradict the majority. And am I one nation with them ???? Russians ???? Do not wait !! I AM RUSSIAN.
  16. Flooding
    Flooding 27 August 2013 12: 07 New
    +5
    Quote: article
    promoting ethnocultural diversity and socio-economic development of the peoples of Russia

    That is, it is proposed to develop not all of the Russian people together, but each nation individually?
    What kind of tongue-tied amateurs are sitting there, speaking of the unity of the people of Russia, they declare development peoples.

    Quote: article
    an increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves Russians or who identify themselves as Russian nations - up to 74%;
    an increase in the level of tolerance towards representatives of other nationalities - up to 85%;
    increase in the number of citizens who would positively characterize the state of interethnic relations in the Russian Federation - up to 65%

    Well, I don’t understand, or are they rams or do they consider us to be such? I bow to the second option. But how dare they splurge on MOST? This is a mystery.
    Why 74%, and not, say, 76,5%? And where do they get the numbers and how will they report on the execution of the program? Surveys in all regions, cities and villages?
    And what is behind this strange figure of 74%?
    Today, less than 74% of Russia's population feels their involvement in the Russian nation?
    Or today, less than 74% of the population of Russia of Russian ethnicity want to label themselves "Russian"?
    What is behind this empty chatter?

    I propose another program to address the issue of unity of the people of Russia, STEP BY STEP:
    an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 65%
    an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 74%
    an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 85%
  17. Majordok
    Majordok 27 August 2013 12: 58 New
    +7
    In my courtyard of young “Russians”, dark-skinned-black-headed ones run much more than the Slavs. Native Siberians, damn it!
    1. Siberian
      Siberian 27 August 2013 14: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: MajorDok
      In my courtyard of young “Russians”, dark-skinned-black-headed ones run much more than the Slavs. Native Siberians, damn it!


      The Siberian peoples (indigenous) were not originally Slavs, mostly black-headed ... There are no contradictions here ...
      1. Majordok
        Majordok 28 August 2013 05: 31 New
        +1
        You understand what I meant, we won’t go deep into history, they write that the Sarmatians from Siberia came)))
  18. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 27 August 2013 13: 49 New
    +2
    <<< In order to turn Russian society into an objectively unified one, one must not try to artificially increase the number of those who are sure that interethnic tension is over, but to make all citizens without exception equal before the law. >>>
    That's it! It is necessary that all nations in Russia live according to the laws of the Russian Federation, and not so that some are guided by these laws, while others, only declaring their adherence to these laws, continue to live according to their ethno-tribal clan-clan customs, which in practice reject the equality of all before the law, giving ITS frank priority: fellow tribesmen, members of a kind, clan and, moreover, protecting them with all this ethnic community in violation of the laws of the Russian Federation, which leads to inequality of opportunity, inequality before the laws! As a result, we have a nepotism in power structures, especially in national republics, where occupation requires not skills and knowledge, but membership in a particular tribe! And so EVERYWHERE! the federal government is not struggling with this, it is on the occasion, although this is the main obstacle to the unity of the nations of the Russian Federation, the elimination of interethnic conflicts and tensions between them!
  19. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 27 August 2013 13: 52 New
    +2
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      Yarosvet 27 August 2013 14: 06 New
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  20. Savva30
    Savva30 27 August 2013 14: 55 New
    +3
    How did they get these "initially dead" projects. They already did things when they ceased to control migration and, in their opinion, started a "good deed" with the resettlement of Caucasians in other regions. Settle them in your Kremlin. Let them cormorant there, scratch their eggs and trade. The worst thing is that resettlement aggravates the situation, but bureaucrats cannot (or do not want) admit it ...
  21. Russkiy_Prapor
    Russkiy_Prapor 27 August 2013 14: 59 New
    +6
    Personally, I am RUSSIAN and proud of it. As for tolerance or tolerance there, these words mean nothing to me, I am more used to shooting. So the government can put such initiatives in its ass. And it would be better for them to do this voluntarily and independently, while the people had patience with me. Shot Serdyukov and Chubais, and send the families of these traitors to the development of the New Siberia island.
  22. dmb
    dmb 27 August 2013 15: 01 New
    +2
    A number of fans of the current government love to send everyone to the site to demonstrate its achievements: "Made in Russia." True, most of the enumerated relation to the authorities does not have, but the program under discussion is just there and needs to be thrust. Very, very revealing.
  23. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 27 August 2013 15: 24 New
    +1
    increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves to be Russians or consider themselves to be the Russian nation - up to 74%
    So the business of growing cosmopolitans without relatives lives on. hi
  24. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 27 August 2013 16: 36 New
    0
    an increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves Russians or who identify themselves as Russian nations - up to 74%;

    In my opinion there is a substitution of the concept. The people can be multinational, especially Russian (determined by the adjective). But a nation is determined by blood origin and not territorially. Geographically, we the Russian people should think about some compromises between our nations. And compliance with the laws of the country is fundamental.
  25. gameover65
    gameover65 27 August 2013 17: 06 New
    +2
    government and people are at different poles.
    Apparently, the government is really occupational.
    Russia is not a mono-ethnic state. The census showed that more than 80% of the population is Russian.
    Kazakhstan, for example, is mono-ethnic, with a percentage of Kazakhs a little over 60.
    we do not need to try to adjust to the decrees and laws of this government. we need to understand that we are under occupation.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 27 August 2013 17: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: gameover65
      we need to understand that we are under occupation.
      Have you seen the occupying forces somewhere? Which country?

      Quote: gameover65
      Russia is not a mono-ethnic state.
      1. gameover65
        gameover65 28 August 2013 13: 18 New
        0
        nice man, pulling phrases out of context and depriving them of their original meaning is not beautiful.
        I said
        Russia is not a mono-ethnic state. The census showed that more than 80% of the population is Russian.


        I meant why Russia is not mono-ethnic, but multinational, if the census suggests otherwise.
    2. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 29 August 2013 18: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: gameover65
      Kazakhstan, for example, is mono-ethnic, with a percentage of Kazakhs a little over 60.

      Shaw for nonsense about the mono-ethnicity of Kazakhstan? Kazakhstan is proud of ethnic diversity, and the word "tolerance" in the KZ is a word with a respectful connotation, and not just like in Russia. the concepts of "tolerast" and so on are absent in the KZ at all.
      at the same time, state ideology clearly says that Kazakhstanis are an integral concept, and we all proudly call ourselves Kazakhstanis, not forgetting our own ethnic roots.
      May 1 in Kazakhstan is called "Day of Unity" people of Kazakhstan"although this holiday was first called" unity day peoples of Kazakhstan". In Kazakhstan - one people, one nation - Kazakhstanis. At the same time, everyone is proud of their Turkic, Slavic, German, Greek, Jewish, Korean and other roots.
      When a Kazakhstani with a Russian or Caucasian surname wins at the Olympics, tears of pride for the country and its representatives flow from Kazakhs with Kazakh surnames. As Russia commented on the victories of non-Russian Russians, I don’t want to remember ... In this case, yes - Kazakhstan is a mono-ethnic state. And we don’t bother with any ethnic origin of a scumbag-rapist or a runaway oligarch. They disgrace not Kazakhs, Russians or Caucasians, but the whole of Kazakhstan.
      1. family
        family tree 30 August 2013 12: 42 New
        +2
        Ah, well done. Keep it up!
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  26. gameover65
    gameover65 27 August 2013 17: 07 New
    -1
    Quote: gameover65
    government and people are at different poles.
    Apparently, the government is really occupational.
    Russia is not a mono-ethnic state. The census showed that more than 80% of the population is Russian.
    Kazakhstan, for example, is mono-ethnic, with a percentage of Kazakhs a little over 60.
    we do not need to try to adapt to the decrees and laws of this government. we need to understand that we are under occupation.
  27. gameover65
    gameover65 27 August 2013 17: 07 New
    -1
    Quote: gameover65
    government and people are at different poles.
    Apparently, the government is really occupational.
    Russia is not a mono-ethnic state. The census showed that more than 80% of the population is Russian.
    Kazakhstan, for example, is mono-ethnic, with a percentage of Kazakhs a little over 60.
    we do not need to try to adapt to the decrees and laws of this government. we need to understand that we are under occupation.
  28. washi
    washi 27 August 2013 17: 31 New
    0
    "Strengthening the unity of the Russian nation ..."
    And who are the Russians?
    Without an answer to this question, the allocation of money is theft.
    There is an adjective: Russian. These are those who live by the general rules and rules of their country and spit on nationality and religion.
    The word "Russian" is unknown to me and is not clear
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 28 August 2013 09: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Vasya
      There is an adjective: Russian. These are those who live by the general rules and rules of their country and spit on nationality and religion.

      Minus to you, dear. Again you are for yours.
      Suvorov Alexander Vasilyevich, Nakhimov Pavel Stepanovich, Brusilov Aleksei Alekseevich ...
      They are not Russian? Oh, Vasya-Vasya ...
  29. repytw
    repytw 27 August 2013 18: 55 New
    0
    Can someone explain what it is "All-Russian civil patriotism and solidarity", maybe military patriotism and solidarity is something else?
  30. varov14
    varov14 27 August 2013 19: 10 New
    +5
    Something seems to me that all these opuses were written with the submission of the State Department; from all this, I become an ardent nationalist, to say the least. In the times of the USSR, I did not care about nationalities; I was completely tolerant - worse than an internationalist. Maybe this is the goal - to make enemies of your neighbors?
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  32. varov14
    varov14 27 August 2013 19: 25 New
    0
    Quote: Flood
    Quote: article
    promoting ethnocultural diversity and socio-economic development of the peoples of Russia

    That is, it is proposed to develop not all of the Russian people together, but each nation individually?
    What kind of tongue-tied amateurs are sitting there, speaking of the unity of the people of Russia, they declare development peoples.

    Quote: article
    an increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves Russians or who identify themselves as Russian nations - up to 74%;
    an increase in the level of tolerance towards representatives of other nationalities - up to 85%;
    increase in the number of citizens who would positively characterize the state of interethnic relations in the Russian Federation - up to 65%

    Well, I don’t understand, or are they rams or do they consider us to be such? I bow to the second option. But how dare they splurge on MOST? This is a mystery.
    Why 74%, and not, say, 76,5%? And where do they get the numbers and how will they report on the execution of the program? Surveys in all regions, cities and villages?
    And what is behind this strange figure of 74%?
    Today, less than 74% of Russia's population feels their involvement in the Russian nation?
    Or today, less than 74% of the population of Russia of Russian ethnicity want to label themselves "Russian"?
    What is behind this empty chatter?

    I propose another program to address the issue of unity of the people of Russia, STEP BY STEP:
    an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 65%
    an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 74%
    an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 85%
    -------
    I propose a radical one-time program - all 85% of the "patriots" of the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation will be expelled to Siberia, but not to mastered, or even there they’ll do XP.
  33. varov14
    varov14 27 August 2013 19: 25 New
    0
    Quote: Flood
    Quote: article
    promoting ethnocultural diversity and socio-economic development of the peoples of Russia

    That is, it is proposed to develop not all of the Russian people together, but each nation individually?
    What kind of tongue-tied amateurs are sitting there, speaking of the unity of the people of Russia, they declare development peoples.

    Quote: article
    an increase in the share of Russian citizens who consider themselves Russians or who identify themselves as Russian nations - up to 74%;
    an increase in the level of tolerance towards representatives of other nationalities - up to 85%;
    increase in the number of citizens who would positively characterize the state of interethnic relations in the Russian Federation - up to 65%

    Well, I don’t understand, or are they rams or do they consider us to be such? I bow to the second option. But how dare they splurge on MOST? This is a mystery.
    Why 74%, and not, say, 76,5%? And where do they get the numbers and how will they report on the execution of the program? Surveys in all regions, cities and villages?
    And what is behind this strange figure of 74%?
    Today, less than 74% of Russia's population feels their involvement in the Russian nation?
    Or today, less than 74% of the population of Russia of Russian ethnicity want to label themselves "Russian"?
    What is behind this empty chatter?

    I propose another program to address the issue of unity of the people of Russia, STEP BY STEP:
    an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 65%
    an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 74%
    an increase in the level of patriots in the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation - up to 85%
    -------
    I propose a radical one-time program - all 85% of the "patriots" of the State Duma and the Government of the Russian Federation will be expelled to Siberia, but not to mastered, or even there they’ll do XP.
  34. serge
    serge 27 August 2013 20: 38 New
    +1
    An attempt to directly copy the Soviet experience. Like any secondary in history, according to a well-known expression, it is repeated as a farce, which is well understood by those who cut funding by six times. The program, in principle, is not feasible for a number of reasons.
    Firstly, once the Russian people were already told that he was Soviet, then they were again told that he was Russian, now they’ll change their name again? You can inspire one person to call yourself differently several times, you can inspire a whole nation to call yourself differently once, but you cannot inspire the whole people, and the same people, without a generation gap, to change their name several times in a row.
    Secondly, in the Soviet times the nationalities did not consider themselves Soviet, only Russians.
    Thirdly, the word “Russian” is not “smooth” in pronunciation, “language is catchy”, in contrast to the word “Soviet”, for example, and according to the laws of language development, even with the current information bombardment, it cannot take root, at least in such short historical period.
    If the creators of the "unity of the nation" really wanted national unity, they would begin to convince the national minorities of Russia that they are Russian. This would have a great chance of success and, most likely, would have been supported by the Russians. But since such programs are written by the enemies of the Russian people and are aimed at the collapse of the state under the banner of unity, they cannot pursue this.
  35. alone
    alone 27 August 2013 20: 49 New
    0
    The total funding of the program amounted to 6,76 billion rubles, of which two-thirds will be allocated from the federal treasury, and the remaining third from the regional and municipal budgets.


    mmm, even the amount is written how much they will spend on it. I wonder what pockets will get this money))

    oh yes, the budget deficit is 500 billion, it says every ruble in the account, but here’s 6,5 billion to you. on a very dubious project
  36. GUSAR
    GUSAR 27 August 2013 22: 21 New
    +2
    I AM RUSSIAN!!! AND I WILL NOT BE OTHERS !!!
  37. Max otto
    Max otto 28 August 2013 00: 10 New
    +1
    This is where they get such leaders and officials? After all, even the article shows that they really have three classes of a parish school, and then they kicked out! Even a person with secondary education should be clear: the state is the Russian Federation, the FEDERATION! What, at the level of definition, implies MULTI-nationality! What kind of nation is Russian? Is Russian a citizenship, and Russian is a nationality, and why the heck is there something else to come up with? The best way to strengthen the country, for its unity and raising authority in the world is an honest and fair leadership, everything, everything else becomes unnecessary, including such programs. Oh, how I want the Blue cap, leather jacket and Mauser.
  38. family
    family tree 28 August 2013 01: 22 New
    +4
    I am a techie, a sapper, I’m not a stranger to mathematics. Algebra only harmony fool
    Will explain. Arkhangelsk region-boiler. Here, probably all nationalities were noted. And all melted. It turns out that as a joke, in conversation, you can call a cholovik by the name of Yanchenko, tse Zakabluk and om, for not telling me where he got the mushrooms, on Saturday and not giving my place to friends, but if someone calls him ohm for emphasis of skinheads, and there are such, he, the previous one, will say that, they say, follow your course (what is it, ask marimans), if you don’t understand, they’ll draw a path with their nose in the dust (well, there’s no asphalt in the outback, well, not fate, apparently, has not yet been laid), on the other hand, happiness, on the asphalt, at such a distance and without a nose you can stay.
    On the other hand, a cupcake arrived, began to beat the show-off, they say he was cool, then disappeared. Then he arrived, either dad, or uncle, or grandfather, we still didn’t understand what he was saying, almost in Russian that they would come and cut out our whole village, in general, we didn’t understand him, just asked, maybe he needs money for a ticket? So it’s possible in the woods, on the straight lines, and even to Moscow, and why, I have a grandfather who, on my father’s, went there twice, and even so, Mikhail Vasilich, Lomonosov who is one and a half times more than my grandfather I ran. No, the men say they would have spent, some promised to show the grave, for a fee, of course, mdya. But, even the frightened off was obvious, the business went wrong. In general, screwed up, the old man, at the station, only he was seen. Well, we’ve already been waiting for six years, all the waitresses have eaten, when will he bring the tour, he promised after all. they’re waiting, Bulbashs, Germans, Moldavians, Tatars, Chuvashs, Udmurts, Jews, Georgians, Ossetians, and other different Russians, no, I’m not waiting anymore, I’m somewhere from the first second and third, well, they don’t come, they show off alone.
    Well, what kind of material statistics for relativities with relativities to ethymatic analysis? You need to be calmer. Respect those who understand you, and compare those who decided that everyone else, well, like by gefreyter, by shiklgruberom, this name was a nonsense.
    Z.Y. From Mosinki and SCS cartridges sorry
  39. Cormorants
    Cormorants 28 August 2013 06: 20 New
    +2
    A Russian is not a nation, it is a resident of Russia.
    Quote: Kibalchish
    As previously replaced the concept of "Russian" by the "Soviet people", now mythical Russians.
    When will it be written in the constitution, that ...
    Russia is first and foremost a state of the Russian people ...

    I completely agree +1.
  40. Cormorants
    Cormorants 28 August 2013 06: 58 New
    +4
    These liberals hesitated. As Kinchev sings "..- Here the word Russian is not entirely politically correct, here is a Russian that is pure and concrete .." A Russian is not a nationality, it is a resident of Russia. When they think about Russians, we are 80,90% (2010), it’s an axiom - when everything is fine with Russians, then everything is fine with other small nations. I am not a Nazi, but a nationalist.
    I remember in the Duma there was a case, in Moscow there are a lot of national schools (Armenian, Jewish, Azerbaijani, etc.) I don’t remember who, it seems that the previous Minister of Education proposed to create Russian national schools, he was immediately accused of ultra-right views.
  41. RUkola
    RUkola 29 August 2013 02: 41 New
    +1
    Yes, everything is many times simpler that you invent everything, simply the non-existent “Russian nation”, you can safely rob, and no one will make any complaints, because it really doesn’t exist, and if it doesn’t, then everything will be cheeky bunches