Military Review

Russia's modest charm. Why is it impossible to gather all Russians in one country?

41
There are 133 million Russians in the world, of which 22 million live abroad. Earlier, the diaspora was understood as ethnic Russians in the former Soviet republics, but today both the scale of emigration from Russia and geography have grown. In Australia, there are already about 70 thousand compatriots, in the UK - 300 thousand, in Canada - half a million. The authorities, whose 20 years didn’t give a damn about “foreign Russians,” suddenly began to build relations with diasporas and even expect to return some of them to their homeland. But it turns out stupidly and ostentatiously: despite the mastered billions, the image of Russia abroad is getting worse, and the Russians are leaving many times more than they are returning.


Russians are running

By the beginning of the 1990's, the position of the Russians in the former Soviet republics became frankly dangerous. In Tajikistan, in 1989 there were about 400 thousand Russians, 2000 thousand remained to 68. How many left for Russia, and how many became victims of the civil war is unknown. It is full of evidence that Russians were massacred by whole families only for their nationality. In Uzbekistan, the heads of "colonialists" paraded on the market. “Do not buy an apartment from Masha, it will still be ours” - it was written on the fences throughout the former Union. Azerbaijan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova - until now, the Russian authorities have not even disclosed the estimated data on how many compatriots died as a result of ethnic cleansing. Especially in the midst of events, the leaders of the country did not dare to demand protection for the Russian population from their CIS colleagues in order not to spoil relations.

Cases of Russian pogroms were noted even within the country: in Yakutia, Tuva, Bashkiria and throughout the North Caucasus. According to human rights activists, only in Chechnya in 1991–1994. 20 thousand Slavs died and 250 thousand left the republic. And although in the end Moscow threw at Grozny Tanks, this was due to "restoring constitutional order." Politicians spoke only in passing about the protection of Russians in the Caucasus, and the fact of genocide has not yet been officially recognized. Although in 2005 a group of former residents of Grozny turned to the President of the Russian Federation with just such a request.

“It’s hard to imagine a more disregarding attitude towards one’s own people,” says lawyer and human rights activist Boris Alexandrov. - They were even embarrassed to create a ministry for refugees. In Uganda or India, in such situations, government advertising was launched to help people left homeless, religious leaders encouraged nationwide fundraising. In Russia, refugees did not receive either apartments, elevators, or employment assistance — at best, they gave land in the open field and helped to assemble old houses on it.

In foreign countries, Russians could only count on themselves. The Foreign Ministry did not always systematize the information in which countries the citizens of Russia were in prison.

“In the nineties, we tried to fight international trafficking in human beings,” says Elena Bolyubakh, coordinator of the Crisis Center for Women. - I remember two young Russians fled from an underground brothel in an Arab country, appealed to the Russian embassy. Diplomats only recommended a couple of hotels where they could earn money for a ticket and fake documents. In European countries, a foreigner without a passport is imprisoned and made a request to the authorities of his country. The Russian tourist, from whom the documents were stolen, could have sat for half a year - no one in the Foreign Ministry was in a hurry to help him.

After major natural disasters on television screens, EMERCOM planes flash for the victims. But Russian citizens did not always care.

“I miraculously escaped during a tsunami in Thailand,” says the St. Petersburg-based citizen Mikhail Sokolov. - When we were taken to Bangkok airport, there were diplomatic workers from all countries of the world except Russia. The embassy staff helped two divers, who had only one swimsuit left from their property: they gave me a call to Moscow to send money. We were taken to Moscow by the transport board of the Ministry of Emergency Situations. Before the flight from each took a receipt that we do not pretend to plane meals. A fly 10 hours.

At the end of 1990, the State Duma adopted a law on compulsory insurance for citizens traveling abroad. In case of injuries or illnesses, the insurance payment must be at least 1,2 million rubles. But, in fact, the law is written in the interests of insurance companies, not tourists. The latter pay for treatment from their own pockets, and then getting insurance compensation is very difficult. The reason for failure may be force majeure like a tsunami. There is nothing to expect if the vacationer drank beer, was engaged in extreme sports (skiing or cycling) or went outside the hotel without a representative of the travel agency.

Motherland is calling

But for some reason the authorities have always believed that the people sincerely love her, and she leaves only by a misunderstanding. By 2005, when oil prices beat all records, and the federal budget was swollen with money, the Kremlin had ambitious plans to return compatriots from abroad. In Ukraine, there are more than 8 million Russians, in Kazakhstan - 3,8 million, in Uzbekistan - 1,1 million, in Latvia - 0,6 million. There were 22 million people in the world who noted their Russian origins during the censuses, and the Foreign Ministry’s estimates of the real number of Russians abroad reached 30 million. During the polls before 90,% of them noted that the authorities were responsible for their departure, but the government did not embarrass them. The media has become fashionable to talk about the Russian diaspora in Australia or Paraguay, formed before 1917 year. Finally, they started talking about tourists abandoned abroad and developed a package of measures.

Unfortunately, most of them have come down to PR. Various international ratings fixed: the image of Russia in the world is unimportant - better than Turkey, but worse than Egypt. In response, they created the international TV company Russia Today, the content of which in 2011 — 2013. It was planned to allocate 6,4 billion rubles from the federal treasury. However, in the draft budget for 2013 Russia Today, 11,2 billion was allotted, and President Putin personally named the TV company among the three media outlets, which cannot be reduced. It is not excluded that it will still increase, although since 2006, the project has already “eaten” about 30 billion rubles.

By 2009, Russia Today’s European audience amounted to 7 million, but the outlined improvement in the country's perception was eradicated by the war with Georgia, the recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, the new trial of Khodorkovsky, the scandals with Putin’s palace and deputy hunting in the Altai nature reserve. But the Russian passion for window dressing has already multiplied by the possibilities of the federal budget.

Since 2007, a state program has been launched to facilitate the resettlement in Russia of compatriots living abroad, which in the first year spent 8 billion rubles. Six months later, victorious reports began to sound: allegedly 300 thousand Russians from the Baltic states, Ukraine and the republics of Central Asia are ready to come to the Kaliningrad region alone. True, by July, 2009 actually moved all 1811 people to all of Russia. It turned out that every half-drunk kolkhoznik from Moldova treated the country at the price of transfer of the Premier League player. For comparison, according to the Chamber of Accounts, only in 2009 – 2011. 1,25 million Russians emigrated from Russia. In 2011, VCIOM announced the data of a survey conducted in 46 subjects of the Federation: 20% of Russians would like to go for permanent residence abroad.

“Mainly specialists who know foreign languages ​​are leaving, and the majority of visiting compatriots are far less qualified,” says sociologist Sergey Prozorov. - Emigrants point out the impossibility of developing a business in Russia legally, lack of property guarantees and corruption. Due to kickbacks, real estate prices in our country are inadequately high. And it is profitable for the middle class to sell a one-room apartment in Moscow and buy a whole house near Munich. Russian housing prices scare potential migrants. Instead of solving these problems, the government works “like an idiot”: it is promoting the Russian language, arranging holidays with treats, and distributing beautiful booklets.

The situation began to improve only when they began to pay the lift: from September 2012, when moving to “priority territories” (Far East, Transbaikalia), was given 240 thousand rubles at a time. They come mainly from Kazakhstan, Russians among them are 70%, with higher education - 37%.

It is significant that immigration to Russia from the Baltic republics is minimal. Although pro-Kremlin mass media regularly talk about discrimination against Russians in Latvia and Estonia. However, in these countries there has never been ethnic cleansing: they simply do not belong to the CIS and are ideological opponents of Moscow.

- In Latvia, perhaps the highest percentage of immigrants among young people in Europe. But they are going to the west, not to the east, - says the historian Pavel Moshkov. - The average per capita income in Latvia is significantly higher than the Russian. Because of the propaganda in Russia, the impression was that the Russians in Latvia were not given citizenship. This is nonsense - just many people do not need it. “Non-citizens” do not serve in the army, it is easier for them to travel to Russia, and for many it is connected with business. Older people do not want to learn the Latvian language and take an exam on it. They celebrate 9 May and keep Soviet flags in the house, but you can't lure them to Russia in any way.

Especially in Russia compatriots living in the wild, who returned 20 years ago. If the authorities still have not solved their problems, then what should the newcomer hope for? For example, in Borisoglebsk (Voronezh region) in 1992, Russian refugees from Uzbekistan and Tajikistan settled. Their village is popularly called "Barrels". It consists of 30 garden garden houses - plywood, upholstered in iron. The shape of the house really resembles a barrel. They built it in an open field, and for 20 years no roads, no lighting appeared, and even the well freezes in winter.

Some "Diogenes" have not received housing certificates, laid down by the forced migrant, that is, even the "barrels" do not belong to them.

“The wording of the refusal shocks us:“ In Tajikistan, nothing threatened your life, ”says Larisa Astakhova. “Although before our eyes the Russians were pulled out of the bus, turned on for stopping and shot.” In Borisoglebsk, at first, we were also not very happy to meet - they say, we came here. From such a life, people die, barely alive before 40 years.

Russian world

Among the foreign countries, of course, the former republics of the Union are leading in terms of the number of the Russian population. True, estimates of their numbers sometimes differ by half: for example, in Uzbekistan there are Russians from 600 to 1,2 million. In Kazakhstan - from 3 to 4,7 million. Among the far-abroad countries, the United States leads from 3 to 4 million Russians. But the fastest growth occurs in new directions.

In Finland, the Russian diaspora in just a few years has grown from 10 to 70 thousand people. In Venezuela, there were only a few Russians in 2000, but a visa-free regime, a favorable climate, low-cost flights and moderate prices did their job: now here from 5 to 10 there are thousands of compatriots. In general, the South American direction is the fastest growing: Argentina, Ecuador, Chile. There are data that 200 thousand live in Brazil.
Russians, but such a scope of the “dream of Ostap Bender” raises great doubts among demographers. Among European countries, the Russians bought a huge amount of real estate in Cyprus, Montenegro and Croatia, but few live there permanently. More and more countries are discovering the benefits of abolishing visas with Russia. For example, the paradise island state of Saint Lucia. And even in the poorest and most dangerous Ethiopia, there are about 1 thousand Russians.

Professional "compatriots"

Despite the inability to solve the elementary problems of immigrants within the country, Russia continues to spend billions to improve its image abroad. Although the image itself seems to have deteriorated compared to 2006 year. The logic is simple: for Russians abroad, no free holidays, conferences and booklets will replace the normal business climate, reasonable prices and loans. Similarly, in the eyes of an ordinary European, PR of the Russian language, ballet, Dostoevsky and Gagarin will not wash away the sediment of dirty elections from Russia, harassing human rights activists and sentences of Navalny and PussyRiot. It cannot be said that spending on the image does not bring the country any benefit. But they are cynical against the background of the closure of rural hospitals and schools. With them, Russia resembles a peasant fool who watered the entire inn, and brought one hard gingerbread to the family.

From the middle of 2012, the country's foreign policy course has been called “soft power”, and former Soviet republics should be its priority. The Federal Agency for CIS Affairs, Compatriots Living Abroad and International Humanitarian Cooperation (Rossotrudnichestvo) has been appointed the main image-maker of the country. The agency is represented in 77 countries of the world 59 by the Russian centers of science and culture (RCSC), 8 by their branches and 18 representatives in the structure of diplomatic missions.

The report, published on the official website of Rossotrudnichestvo, reports how much success was achieved in 2012. For example, agreements were reached on the creation of cultural centers in Nicaragua and Syria, “the work on harmonization” was continued in Romania and Singapore, and the center in Laos was solemnly opened. In 2011, a presidential decree timed the Day of the Russian language to Pushkin’s birthday, in connection with which more than 400 thematic events took place on the basis of all the RCSCs. The language contest "My Russian" was held in 25 countries, its winners will be taken to Russia. With the active participation of Rossotrudnichestvo, the II Congress of teachers and educators of the CIS countries was held in Yerevan. And in November, 2012 was held in Moscow III World Forum of foreign graduates of Russian (Soviet) universities. In his footsteps, they decided to create an association of Afghan graduates, which will work in Kabul "with the support of Rossotrudnichestvo." And although it strongly resembles Soviet gatherings of weavers and milkmaids, the agency’s budget will grow from 2,3 billion rubles. in 2012 to 9,5 billion.

Nevertheless, the report states that the major problems of “expanding the geography of Rossotrudnichestvo and its adequate financing, major renovation and modernization of the RCSC abroad, and the location of the Agency’s headquarters” are still not resolved. With geography it is gradually being adjusted: although the budget does not contain funds for the normal burial of the Great Patriotic War, but it has done “significant work” to restore the Russian section of the Testaccio cemetery in Rome.

The Russian Association for International Cooperation (RAMS), which includes around 100 friendship societies around the world, is also called the tool of “soft power”. In 2012, new societies were created in Tanzania, Nicaragua and, most importantly, in the Seychelles. The Russian World Foundation, the Foundation of St. Andrew the First-Called, the Library - the Russian Abroad fund, the Russian Culture Fund, the International Council of Russian Compatriots, the International Association of Compatriots Youth Organizations, the International Association of Cities, and the Moscow Union of Societies friendship, St. Petersburg Association of International Cooperation, etc. All these organizations have their own PR tasks and budgets, the lion's share of which is made up by government funds. But, apparently, this bloc is not enough: Rossotrudnichestvo is trying to recreate the Russian Union of Friendship Societies (RSOD) and resume in Moscow the House of Friendship with the Peoples of foreign countries. But so far it does not meet with “sufficient support”. Also in the agency's report, it is regretted that he is not allowed to spend money on advertising the Universiade in Kazan, the Olympics in Sochi, the World Cup and the World Exhibition in Yekaterinburg in 2020. So far, only limited series of photographic exhibitions, presentations and round tables in India, Great Britain, Italy, Finland, Ukraine, Cyprus, Luxembourg, Argentina and Brazil have been devoted to this topic.

In the autumn of 2012, the 4th World Congress of Compatriots was held in the Tauride Palace of St. Petersburg, which brought together 500 delegates from 94 countries of the world. That is, holding such an event was hardly cheaper than an economic forum. True, billion contracts were not concluded here, and a rational balance was hardly formulated. The head of Rossotrudnichestvo Konstantin Kosachev said that in the CIS countries Russia should have 3 – 5 centers of science and culture. Even loyal media gave headlines: “There were no sensations at the convention.”

“Professional compatriots appear for representation at hundreds of events to the glory of Russia abroad,” says lawyer Andrei Vorobyov. - In some funds, the board of trustees numbers from 20 to 40 people. They prefer to communicate with their journalists, who also carry on events for budget money. Although in the world there has long been no lack of information, and the discrepancy between word and deed always negatively affects reputation.

To improve the image of the country, you need to be, and not seem. For example, everyone will immediately notice the real fight against corruption. This is when the cheapest Tajik workers in the world do not build the most expensive roads in the world. And the asphalt does not leave them with the snow. This is when the examination of state contracts. And if a flower bed on Tverskaya Street costs the budget 8 million rubles, then the official who signed such an agreement immediately finds himself behind bars. When masters of science know at least the school curriculum. When the ruinous window-dressing for the country turns into outrage of the society that the authorities will have to reckon with. In this country, people are more likely to want to live - without any advertising, round tables and video conferencing.

Salvation departing

The sudden concern of the government over the situation of Russian tourists abroad was expressed in the creation of the association and the Turpomosch Foundation. The fund was obliged to replenish all tour operators: for 100 thousand rubles of the entrance fee plus 0,1% from the company's turnover (but also not less than 100 thousand). About 2 thousand tour operators entered the association, which means that only contributions made it possible to accumulate 200 million rubles. Some market players called such conditions predatory: small firms were forced to retrain from operators to agents, which lobbyists allegedly wanted to create “Turpomoschi”.

Will the position of tourists improve? In 2009, a student from Chuvashia Renata Vinogradova, while in the UAE, lost her passport. She appealed to the police and was accused of “violating the rules of stay in the country”. The Dubai Emirate Court acquitted Vinogradov, but it turned out that it was impossible to release it: the Russian consulate could not prepare an outpass for several months (a temporary certificate of return to its homeland). And without it, it is impossible to move around the UAE and you can’t buy a plane ticket. The prison governor in Dubai twice gave Renate a car with security to go to the Russian consulate. But caring compatriots said: “Why did you come? Sit and wait for us to contact you. ” According to a resident of Volgograd, Galina Kurapova, after her daughter was detained in Spain because of visa problems, the employees of the Russian consulate tried to get money from her “for legal assistance”. And when businessman Peter Makaykin was kidnapped in Iraq and attempted to blackmail his family in Russia, Russian diplomats refused to travel in Iraq in this connection, because the country is very restless.
Author:
Originator:
http://argumenti.ru/toptheme/n402/277689
41 comment
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must to register.

I have an account? Sign in

  1. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 23 August 2013 06: 43 New
    12
    They hosted "compatriots" who arrived under the resettlement program (a religious community from Georgia). We built a village for them with all the amenities, helped them with the household and small business, offered them a job. Local residents swore at what the light was worth - they had lived here all their lives and did not see any help, but to visitors - all at once. The bulk of the newcomers immediately went to work in Moscow. The feds stopped giving money - the program calmed down too.
    If Russia has some kind of "soft power" strategy, which many talk about, it is so soft that the most unpleasant associations arise.
    The author correctly wrote that the basis of any "soft" power is real deeds. We practically do not have them. And without that, everything else is just "cutting the dough."
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 23 August 2013 07: 16 New
      +3
      Here is a very informative selection of the resettlement of compatriots.
      http://www.sdelanounas.ru/sphinxsearch/?s=%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D





      0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5+%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D1


      %82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2

      For such immigrants, I suppose everyone in Russia will be FOR!






      Why can't I get all the Russians in one country?

      With self-organization, we really have trouble.
      Until the thunder strikes, we cannot rally.

      Well, what can I say if, for example, a Kadyrov mosque gains several million votes, and such ancient Russian cultural monuments as the Astrakhan Kremlin http://10russia.ru/object_74, Kizhi, Trinity Lavra of St. Sergius, etc. not even in the top ten?
      1. RA77
        RA77 23 August 2013 08: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: GreatRussia
        Well, what can I say if, for example, a Kadyrov mosque gains several million votes, and such ancient Russian cultural monuments as the Astrakhan Kremlin http://10russia.ru/object_74, Kizhi, Trinity-Sergius Lavra, etc. not even in the top ten?

        Do not complain. It would be better to vote daily, but more (there you can not only three times a day) for the Kremlin, which is now in second place.
        The mosque is on the first, and even with such a number of votes, because it is wound up with a counter. By those or other means. Well, we are not so actively voting for our other cultural monuments because we are passionately voting for the Kolomna Kremlin, so that it would be the first in the number of votes. Because in Russia it should be so.

        JUST DO IT
        http://10russia.ru/object_61
        1. matross
          matross 23 August 2013 08: 29 New
          +3
          Quote: RA77
          It would be better to vote daily, but more (there you can not only three times a day) for the Kremlin,

          Come on, let the mosque win. At least we’ll neigh! laughing Anyone is clear that this is shit! Yes, and 3 ruble is not a pity, but someone, damn it, profits from our patriotism, and again we are not! And if the home-made chapel in Grozny is recognized as the symbol of Russia, maybe this will be the last straw of patience? am
          1. RA77
            RA77 23 August 2013 09: 16 New
            +3
            matRoss, it all starts small. First, the mosque is in the first place, then we will concede in some little things, and then we will lose everything. You can not do it this way.
            Voting, as I know, ends on August 31. Time is short, but it still exists. ~ 500 votes fell behind from the first place yesterday, today ~ 000 already.
            And there you can vote for free, through a web form on the site itself. Three times a day. But if you contrive, you can vote 50 times a day. For example, from different browsers. Or from one, but by deleting all cookies on the site by voting three times. Well, then changing the IP-shnik.
            1. matross
              matross 23 August 2013 09: 41 New
              0
              Quote: RA77
              First, the mosque in the first place, then in some other little things we will concede

              Yes, not fighting that. And not for that. Bullshit is commercial. But everyone decides for himself. Or they decide for him. Respectfully your opinion hi
              1. RA77
                RA77 23 August 2013 12: 59 New
                +1
                Here you see there are two nuances ... This rating is probably no one else in the wake. year and will not remember. But for Caucasians (or Muslims in general), the first place in it of their mosque still matters. My opinion is that they want to hint to the Slavs who is really the main in the country. Those. there are more of us Christians in Russia, and so many of our historical monuments are here. And Caucasians / Muslims, although significantly less, are in the first place in the ranking of a Muslim mosque in Grozny! It’s like in the army a handful of Caucasians are building all the Russians. And it won’t do that! This cannot be allowed to do.

                And then they apparently think that in Russia everything can be bought for money. In this competition, there is a restriction on free voting via the web, which is difficult to bypass programmatically (captcha + IP). Therefore, you cannot write a bot to increase the rating. But there seems to be no limitation on SMS voting. The site says that you can send them as many as you like per day. And if you pay attention, for the mosque only ~ 800 votes were sent via the web and> 000 were sent via SMS! Although this is a paid service. To me, as a software developer, all this suggests that a robot is probably working. And you can write such a bot in a day, it is quite simple. Well, either they have a "mechanical Turk" in the form of a group of people sending a huge amount of SMS. In any case, having objectified. the amount of money can be a good way to wind up the rating, which they apparently do. And we must try to break them off here. In reality, the mosque should have somewhere around 6 thousand votes, or 000-000 lima maximum, I think.
        2. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 23 August 2013 10: 42 New
          +2
          This topic was clearly provoked with the help of mobile operators, babos are sickly!
    2. Garrin
      Garrin 23 August 2013 07: 22 New
      +4
      Quote: serge-68-68
      The author correctly wrote that the basis of any "soft" power is real deeds. We practically do not have them. And without that, everything else is just "cutting the dough."

      Under the existing system and the current government, we were, are and will be only "consumables", at best, "the electorate."
      1. domokl
        domokl 23 August 2013 07: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: Garrin
        Under the existing system and the current government, we were, are and will be only "consumables", at best, "the electorate."

        The authorities are doing their job, and we have to do our own thing. How many programs about the girls in the brothels were? And the result? The fools both traveled and go illegally to the Arabs. How many times did the pilots get captured in Africa? But all the same, they independently enter into contracts and go .
        If there is a head, but there is no thinker in it, then no power will help.
      2. xetai9977
        xetai9977 23 August 2013 08: 13 New
        +5
        On the account of emigration from Russia, the words of Alexander II from the advertisement of the Imperial bank are more suitable - "You need to feed better, they will not fly away." There are a lot of former Bakuvians-Russians. They hope to confirm my words. According to the results of the last census, 120 thousand Russians lived in our country. The daughter of our Russian neighbor left for Russia, and returned a year later. country. This is the main factor.
        1. Trapperxnumx
          Trapperxnumx 23 August 2013 08: 50 New
          +2
          Quote: xetai9977
          And the words of the author about "the Russians who died in Azerbaijan as a result of ethnic cleansing" are a naked and shameless lie !!

          The author generally has a lot of material from "independent liberal sources." Only one infa about "data of the accounting chamber" is worth it. Then Stepashin was promoted "for a fool" and he blurted out about 1,25 million, that's his words and they have been twisting since then)))

          Your country and people separate respect for hospitality)))
          1. xetai9977
            xetai9977 23 August 2013 09: 45 New
            +5
            Thank you Dmitry! Comparing your words and the author’s attack, you think about how easy it is to offend an undeserved rebuke and have a kind word for yourself. love
    3. Civil
      Civil 23 August 2013 07: 43 New
      +2
      They run from a good life, not otherwise
    4. Ross
      Ross 23 August 2013 11: 17 New
      +1
      The topic is relevant, but written with such subtext ... The theme of the Russian world needs to be raised and developed, but not by such authors.
      1. agbykov
        agbykov 23 August 2013 13: 46 New
        +2
        “We ourselves can lose our own land due to personal wickedness. Outsiders who surpass us in morality, and therefore vitality, can soon eat our bread with a smile before our eyes. This is constantly happening in history. Morality is not a habit or tradition. adopted from the fathers. This is a factor of survival and self-preservation. "
        Archpriest Andrei Tkachev
  2. Dimy4
    Dimy4 23 August 2013 06: 52 New
    +1
    In Russia, the refugees received neither apartments, nor elevated buildings, nor assistance in finding employment - at best they gave land in a clean field and helped to collect dilapidated houses on it.

    I allow myself not to refer to this statement in our region, there are 2 small villages, one former military town and a small village of a road organization where resettled refugees were resettled in the 90s. Water and heating were voracious EPZ-100.
    1. domokl
      domokl 23 August 2013 07: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: Dimy4
      Let me not refer to this statement in

      I support. Moreover, not only Russians, but immigrants of other nationalities live in such villages. They live quite normally. Farmers are strong. I think the problem is that everyone wants to move to Moscow and Moscow region
  3. tolan_petrovich
    tolan_petrovich 23 August 2013 07: 20 New
    +2
    And in honor of what, someone owes something. I am Russian and I live in Russia, and I won’t say that they didn’t give anything. If you want to live, come and live like everyone else, take off your hut, work, EARN. Do not want yes and naf .. you are needed here. Something like this. And I do not go abroad, I laid on them. Sorry but this is MY opinion of Russian in RUSSIA.
    1. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 23 August 2013 07: 22 New
      +7
      It's bad to be like this...

      It's one thing when you go from the provinces to Moscow in pursuit of "easy money".
      And it’s another matter when in the former fraternal republic, you cannot sell your apartment and don’t give work and you don’t get money except for a ticket.
      And how to leave?
      I have several friends, so they ran away with families from all kinds of Tachikistons, etc.
      How can you not help your own Russian people?
    2. FunkschNNX
      FunkschNNX 23 August 2013 10: 14 New
      +2
      These people or their ancestors ended up there (mainly about Asia) in the interests and, as a rule, by order of Russia. The standard of living there and now is not higher than the Russian one, but then there was generally horror and few people would want to go there of their own free will. As a result, they worked for Russia in the most difficult conditions, expanded its influence, etc., and Russia threw them away. Although the "indigenous" in Russia are thrown without hesitation.
    3. Vashestambid2
      Vashestambid2 23 August 2013 15: 36 New
      0
      Quote: tolan_petrovich
      And I do not go abroad, I laid on them.


      A friend needs to leave home more often, see the World, otherwise you will rust !! Traveling, learning new cultures and meeting new people is the most interesting thing in Life !! Yes, and IQ increases. smile
  4. domokl
    domokl 23 August 2013 07: 23 New
    +5
    I put the article in a minus. It’s certainly great to put it on one heap. For the first time I saw foreign compatriots, or rather descendants of compatriots in Afghanistan. They only fought against us.
    People left in the 90 by all means. More often illegally. Going to work in the Emirates ... Or where else ... And then weeping, they fuck us in a brothel. How do we say about a tricky ass? That screw was found on her .
    Compatriots in the former Soviet republics. That I do not see here the great desire of the Russians to leave Ukraine or Belarus. Yes, and they do not particularly leave the Baltic states.
    Tourists. Here yes. Control is needed. Full for Russian citizens. Notice not Russians, but Russian citizens. And help. The only problem is illegal immigrants. Naturally, if a person ends up in another country without the knowledge of diplomats, no one will accept him without documents at the embassy. Who are you? They’ll check.
    But in general, I think that cultural centers, propaganda of life in Russia, and solving internal problems will allow the former ones to be resolved. When the pot is full of porridge, and the bottles are not only spring water, many friends recall that they also once had this pot sat and earn groats there
  5. taseka
    taseka 23 August 2013 07: 25 New
    +2
    Historically, the life of a slave and "Hey, man!" It was not appreciated in Russia - they made their people slaves without being captured in battles - serfs. The tsars routinely gave "young men" either in regiments to the Kaiser, or in brigades to death, to the French, who then sent them to their mines in Africa. And then the phrase - "Nothing! Russian women still give birth!" has been relevant for many years! As a citizen of Russia, at the moment of my capture by the natives, I would like to realize that the squadron of the Pacific Fleet is already sailing to this island of Tumba-Yumba and, if necessary, will rake everything under the bamboo root !!! And what about our prisoners in Africa, who were pulled out by the Swiss Red Cross a year later? It seems that the genetics of the authorities must be changed with the brains!
    1. domokl
      domokl 23 August 2013 07: 32 New
      -3
      Quote: taseka
      To me as a citizen of Russia

      So the conversation is about those who are not a citizen of Russia. And then, What about the citizens of Russia who are mercenaries in the armies and gangs of other states? In the same Syria? According to international laws, they are outside the law and international agreements do not apply to them.
      So, if you serve in the army of the Russian Federation, the fleet will come, and in other cases, the problems of the Sheriff’s Inleys do not ... concern
  6. makst83
    makst83 23 August 2013 07: 27 New
    +2
    The topic is of course urgent and topical, but how is it presented ..... Each half-drunk collective farmer from Moldova (a great attitude to compatriots), the sediment of dirty elections, the persecution of human rights defenders and the sentences of Navalny and PussyRiot, did not read after that! This is not an attempt to comprehend the situation and designate it, it is a spectacular vyser and hitting! Article minus!
  7. Revolver
    Revolver 23 August 2013 07: 27 New
    +7
    Maybe a little off topic, but I remember how long ago I came to America. My friend, who arrived a couple of years earlier, warned that “Russians” (immigrants from the USSR, regardless of ethnicity and religion) cannot be relied upon in terms of employment, even those who, according to their position, could not help. As one of his settled distant relative (such a relative!) Said to him, "While I got settled here, I ate my barrel of shit, and you eat yours, or rather two."
    It turkeys and chinas help their get settled. One turkey will settle in with the company, take a look around, and after a couple of years you can’t get away from them. And our individualists. They help relatives or friends, and so - each for himself, one God for all.
  8. GUSAR
    GUSAR 23 August 2013 07: 29 New
    +8
    De facto - Russia is the main anti-Russian country on the planet, unfortunately, (to put it mildly), we talk a lot, for example, about the USA, countries that are swaying the whole world, while protecting our country and our interests, our government has the main idea as much as possible to sausage your own people ...
  9. Basileus
    Basileus 23 August 2013 07: 29 New
    0
    Cases of pogroms in ..., Bashkiria

    And where can I read? It’s terrible how interesting it is where we Russians (most of the region’s population, by the way) are offended.
  10. My address
    My address 23 August 2013 07: 34 New
    +3
    With regard to the idlers from the consulates, everything is correct. With us, if an official doesn't have to work, you can't force him with a stick. Relatives and acquaintances of ambassadors and secretaries of embassies have dug in the consulates. Liberal nonsense has been written about the "unfortunate" Pusias, Hodor and others. The article is so-so.
  11. Paul
    Paul 23 August 2013 07: 45 New
    +4
    a concrete example: a friend’s sister left Kazakhstan for Belgorod, with a family, received a plot, added something, built a house, works - she’s happy, takes her parents from Belarus, and he also thinks of leaving for the Russian Federation
  12. july
    july 23 August 2013 08: 06 New
    +7
    Some kind of gloomy article. Well, yes, we have a lot of bad things, I get the impression that if it weren’t for this fucking power, our people would not be so united and indestructible. This unity is not in the cries of demonstrators and in protests and reactions, it is not even visible, but our country stands despite the machinations of all the freaks and stands precisely thanks to ordinary people, there is something in us that gives this unity. Ours of course is a pity both abroad and in a country where bureaucratic lawlessness flourishes. Yes, in the West they live more satisfying, but do they live or exist? They often tell me that normal adequate people live there and that if I talked to them, I would understand that. Yes, people are adequate, but their community is not at all adequate! With their tacit consent, insanity is happening all over the world, and not at all from our problems. I don’t blame those who left for a good life, the time will come — they will come back. As long as the people have someone to understand the priority of the common good, then you can say collegiality, even if there are not so many of them, but they will eventually follow them. Now especially in the world there is no perfection and what people decide for themselves, in the West - satiety, silence, hopelessness, we have ... hope, albeit fragile, but growing and the awareness of our unity. Because when the world went off the coils, that’s what survived, It seems the same will be. In general, the article is necessary, but when it came to bulk and guns, it immediately became clear who the customer was, so gentlemen liberals do not care what you scold, we have a lot of sore spots, but look at our terrible faces, we’ll better live with our problems than being such perverts.
    1. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 23 August 2013 08: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: July
      In general, the article is necessary, but when it came to bulk and guns, it immediately became clear who the customer was, so gentlemen liberals do not care what you scold, we have a lot of sore spots, but look at our terrible faces, we’ll better live with our problems than being such perverts.

      I agree. I support. The worst of all are Russians themselves liberals. Today they are screaming about the protection of the Russians, but these are just slogans, having come to power they will spit on our people just like they spat in the 90s, if not worse.
  13. Gardamir
    Gardamir 23 August 2013 08: 31 New
    0
    Everything is simple. To clean up. Give JUSTICE. Store TRADITIONS. And no one will leave, on the contrary, they will begin to return. Only realize these three words.
  14. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 23 August 2013 08: 49 New
    0
    What do you want from an anti-people government?
  15. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 23 August 2013 08: 50 New
    +4
    I give the author "+".
    In truth, his article is true and based on facts only.
    Refugees from Kyrgyzstan arrived to our town about 15 years ago (several families)
    This is Russian!
    They settled them in barracks, going for demolition with completely disconnected communications and electricity. The roofs collapsed to the floor, the walls "rode", the floor rotted in places to dust.
    All these years, they restore and strengthen their housing. There is also a problem with registration, as these barracks do not legally exist. How they get out - only God knows and no prospects.
    I often see the word "earn". They work, they still work, but ...
    Average salary for Small. area 10-12t.r.
    So earn! We have almost no enterprises left, demolish everything and build super and hypermarkets.
    Private refugees do not favor, but they lower their salaries without blinking.
    There is only one answer - you were not called here, you would have stayed there ...
    So what is normal going to us? What for?
    One more factor should be understood: to make good money you need to not only reduce the whole set of conditions into one whole, but also have a stable psyche, attitude, leadership qualities, connections and necessary knowledge.
    All people are different, otherwise everyone would become millionaires. To cut everyone "one size fits all" is a sign of stupidity.
    I completely agree that the government does not want to seriously take care of compatriots either inside the country or abroad. Unless, when the case does not gain wide publicity.
    Respect to the author, purulent abscesses need to be opened
    Reread the article again, just not biased. What is wrong there?
  16. Trapperxnumx
    Trapperxnumx 23 August 2013 08: 51 New
    0
    I will not add or minus, but the article is from the category of "pro-salipolymers".
    Although there are certainly claims to power in terms of caring for Russians abroad.
  17. individual
    individual 23 August 2013 08: 51 New
    +1
    We live by the principle: "my house is on the edge."
    All disconnected. Each for himself.
    Take the Tajiks. Three people appeared in the city - already the diaspora was not in words, but in practice, before they did not know each other, but those who turned out to be by chance together already shared common interests.
    Not only Russians have such problems.
    All peoples historically abandoned tribal ties, clans have broken generations and their community.
    I understand that this is very bad, but evolution cannot be stopped ...
    Previously, tribes gathered in flocks to confront the incomprehensible.
    Modernity implies protection by the state, and unification occurs only when there is a danger of great disaster.
    I understand, somehow.
  18. 128mgb
    128mgb 23 August 2013 09: 15 New
    +1
    An article from the category “must be brought down from the“ rashka. ”Minus.
  19. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 23 August 2013 09: 26 New
    -1
    Emigrants note the inability to develop business in Russia legally, the absence of property guarantees and corruption.- MAYBE THE SAME WORLD:RUSSIAN GO RUSSIAN !!!
  20. savoj
    savoj 23 August 2013 10: 27 New
    0
    The end to you Russian .... you yourself know it. And the main reason is not in the saber-toothed states, but in yourself ... you know that too. Anyway, but the last example .... not the main thing is that Serdikov will not be imprisoned. The main thing is that he did this with the tacit support of the president, prime minister, court and prosecutor's office, and people's deputies. And the people are forced to believe that he alone is to blame and the people successfully are people happy. And most importantly, during the prolonged activity of Serdyukov, suddenly the EYES of what thief he suddenly opened up in power.
    1. Samsebenaum
      Samsebenaum 23 August 2013 11: 09 New
      +1
      savoj

      Quote: savoj
      End you Russian ....


      Whose cow mumbled, but yours was silent ...
      As I understand it under the nickname "savoj" in a different way, Nostradamus himself is broadcasting to the world.
      How many were there, such ventriloquists? And where are they?
      As for the Putin team, I agree, but I do not advise touching the people themselves.
      We see and understand everything. One problem is patient to the extreme.
  21. serge
    serge 23 August 2013 10: 54 New
    +2
    The article raised several questions:
    1) Protection of Russians by Russia abroad, including in the countries of the former USSR
    2) The program for the resettlement of Russians from the countries of the former USSR to Russia
    3) Emigration from Russia to the West and to Latin America
    4) Attitude towards fellow citizens of the Russian Foreign Ministry abroad

    All problems stem from the fact that the Russian Federation is a state not Russian and not for Russian.
    What is it about if attempts to include a non-binding phrase about the state-forming role of the Russian people in the constitution (in Russia, supposedly the state of Russians) are dead blocked at the state level. By the way, by whom are they blocked? Not a single Russian in their right mind would block this initiative. Consequently, there is a minority of Russians in the state apparatus, or not at all. Russian in the Russian Federation, as you know, 85%. That is, the country, by all criteria, with all due respect to national minorities, is mono-ethnic and is Russian. But the state, the executive branch in the country, is not Russian. The state of the Russian Federation of Russians, therefore, does not represent (as it does not represent the Tatars, Chuvashs, or any other indigenous people of Russia) at any level. Neither in the far abroad, nor in the near, nor even domestically.
    Not the first decade, Russian citizens of Russia have been perplexed: why are we being robbed, raped, killed abroad, and the state of Russia, in the person of its authorized representatives, does not give a damn about it? Fools, this is not our state. Our country, but the state is not. Such a political system is described in the writings of Gumilyov (for which flowers at his monument should not be translated) and called the state-chimera. As a classical chimera state, Gumilyov described Khazaria, in which the state was Jewish and the people were Khazar. The Russian Federation in this regard is practically no different from Khazaria.
    The state (the executive branch) in the Russian Federation is almost one hundred percent Jewish. Including the Foreign Ministry. Therefore, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation does not engage in the protection of Russians, including tourists, abroad, did not and will not. Have you lost your mind on a Jew who will defend a Russian, where have you seen this?
    The resettlement program of Russian compatriots has failed and will fail. Since this is a program for the resettlement of not Russian, but Russian-speaking Jews, who under this program receive everything they want, be sure. Then, why to resettle Russians from the Baltic states, Northern Kazakhstan and Ukraine, where they are an indigenous, indigenous people, is not clear. Help should be provided, resettlement not. From our Uzbek-Tajik-Kyrgyz stans, where the Russians were not an indigenous people, all our people have long fled, the question of the resettlement of Russians has been twenty years late and is being discussed again for Jewish emigration at Russian expense.
    Regarding emigration to the West. This question has nothing to do with the Russians at all. Emigrants from Russia are 90% Jewish. This is their internal question, they are buying real estate outside of Russia with Russian money, but to us, the Tatars (generally Russian, but also the Tatars, Jews saw both Tatars and Russians in the grave) - all the same.
    The Russian state apparatus will begin to defend the Russians over the hill, Russian tourists of not Yahweh's chosen nationality, and the Russians inside Russia (it would also not hurt) only when the number of Russian "natives" increases, not earlier. An example of such a process is the change in the Stalinist USSR from 1936 to 1940. In 1924, Stalin actually became the leader of the USSR. In 1936, 12 years later, the purges of the state apparatus began. In 2000, the current president came to the leadership of the Russian Federation. 12 years have passed, according to the established trend, the purge of the state apparatus should begin. Maybe the Russians will slip into the state apparatus on the wave of the purge, it's high time. Look, and the Russian Foreign Ministry will begin to protect Russians abroad, anything can happen.
  22. Andrew 447
    Andrew 447 23 August 2013 11: 12 New
    +1
    A bit out of topic. I often go on business trips to China and behind our compatriots I notice a strange feature, shy away from each other like the devil with incense. I always greet our people when I meet abroad, 90% do not answer articulately and try not to raise their eyes to dump aside. One gets the impression that they are ashamed of their origin and country or they are afraid that I will turn to them for help. I try to re-educate our Russian "soviet" am
    1. Vashestambid2
      Vashestambid2 23 August 2013 15: 28 New
      0
      Quote: Andrey 447
      I often go on business trips to China and I notice a strange peculiarity for our compatriots, to dodge each other like hell from incense.


      laughing Yes, I also often notice this. SAD BUT TRUE !!

      But more and more I meet more open Russians and this is a good trend !! drinks
  23. savoj
    savoj 23 August 2013 12: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: Samsebenum
    savoj

    Quote: savoj
    End you Russian ....


    Whose cow mumbled, but yours was silent ...
    As I understand it under the nickname "savoj" in a different way, Nostradamus himself is broadcasting to the world.
    How many were there, such ventriloquists? And where are they?
    As for the Putin team, I agree, but I do not advise touching the people themselves.
    We see and understand everything. One problem is patient to the extreme.

    ... it’s a pity that at this time I’m happy - neither me nor you will have to live ....
    This is about the Russians said one great Russian .....
  24. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 23 August 2013 14: 23 New
    -1
    Due to the ambitions of three idiots, many friends and relatives stayed abroad.
  25. Gorinich
    Gorinich 23 August 2013 14: 26 New
    +1
    A lot depends on self-identification, we still have not been able to decide who the Russians are. Therefore, we do not consider each other "brothers". We are alone, loners, because we do not know who we are ...
  26. Cristall
    Cristall 23 August 2013 21: 18 New
    0
    I usually do not write in non-Ukrainian news, but - 2 "NO"
    1-take away from Russia Girl - Russian Slav.
    2-according to article-8 million in Ukraine? Is it on the passport? Or in spirit? or for something else ... There are too many of us in Ukraine. (Well, I can’t wake up after 91 .. I still think that in another country)
    I will strongly recommend that the girl not change her passport (she so decided to remain Russian and I agree)
    Statistically, Odessa citizens marry just the Russians (then on Moldavians and only in 3rd place, Ukrainian)
    I’m kind of ashamed - I’m taking Russian from Russia to Ukraine. I don’t even know which country we’ll write children to and how generally with the border after 2015 .... and even from the South I don’t want to go to the Tver region ... I’ll die without the sea ... and even more so in the cold (in St. Petersburg for 10 days so missed Odessa, even in the Crimea it was not as fast as in Northern Palmyra .. South is much better in terms of climate)
    what to do with citizenship, marriage and children ..
  27. Druid
    Druid 24 August 2013 02: 04 New
    0
    Quote: xetai9977
    "Russians killed in Azerbaijan as a result of ethnic cleansing" is a naked and shameless lie !!

    Pi ..., that is to say, don’t turn over bags ... Such authors sow discord, the author had to thicken his colors, so he whistled, but did not think about the consequences, for no reason, for nothing, the whole people wrote in enemies and Russian killers.
    About 120 thousand lived in Azerbaijan during the Russian Empire. Russian, during the Soviet Union almost 500 thousand. Russian, now again 120 thousand. Russian. They left - family members of servicemen and officers of the army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the KGB of the USSR, those to whom Azerbaijan was not the motherland, who fell by distribution, etc., left. in the period of the USSR. The rest, those to whom Azerbaijan has become a homeland, who have lived for more than one generation, have lived and still live, young people go to work in Russia, like the Azerbaijanis, someone emigrated to Europe and America, like the Azerbaijanis.
    Kovalev, Makeev, Karlov, Seregin, Senyushkin, Slesarev are the names of the National Heroes of Azerbaijan (analogous to the title Hero of Russia), they are all Russian.
    We left three Russians from work, whose great-great-grandfathers were still resettled in Azerbaijan, all three returned after 2, 5 and 8 years of life in the Oryol, Voronezh and Kemerovo regions.
    What help is there for the migrants ?! After graduating from school in the same place, he recaptured a son from the army who lived in the Voronezh region, and when he returned to him at the passport desk they said that he was not a Russian citizen, had failed for a year, and as a result, the Azerbaijani citizen returned, as did his parents. I’m asking Sasha the excavator, they say, what’s the other way around, you don’t have a price, in return - there were no problems with the work, but I have two younger daughters, I don’t even want to grow out of them.
    Well, besides everything, there are simply economic reasons, almost 1 million of the same Azerbaijanis left for the Russian Federation. and 300-500 thousand. goes to work ...
    Minus to the author of the article.