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I remembered a long-standing conversation with a truck driver who worked in the construction market. Soon, he said to me, we will be the masters here (this was in Moscow 1999). Do not believe? You'll see, in 10-15 there will be a lot of us here, we will open our companies everywhere, build mosques, and you will work with us. Why, I asked him. Everything is very simple we Muslims always support each other in any business. It is hard to believe something, you are killing each other there in the Caucasus. This is there, and here we are, above all, Muslims, and only then a punisher (he himself was a representative of this people), an Ingush, a Chechen. We are united by the faith of our fathers, therefore we are strong. And our faith unites us, I answered him. No, dear, you have betrayed your faith and sold, you now worship the money. For the money you are ready to sell anything. Unfortunately, then he was right, soon in Moscow began to explode at home. Because someone for money missed cars with explosives, someone handed over the cellars of residential houses for money, not asking what they would store for the goods, someone did not check for people who store their goods in the basement of the apartment building. I had nothing to say to him.


Symbol of Russia


I remembered this conversation now, when there is a vote for the choice of the symbol of Russia. As you know, at the moment, the Heart of Chechnya named after Akhmat Kadyrov is leading by a large margin. Something is really wrong with us, if in Russia 80% considers itself to be Russian, and the symbol of Russia is a Muslim mosque.

In the Russian Empire there was no division according to nationalities (although the nationalities did not disappear anywhere). In Russia, it was possible to classify themselves to one faith or another. The bulk of the population were Orthodox Christians in the first place and already, then people attributed themselves to one or another nationality. Accordingly, all those who professed Orthodoxy were considered RUSSIAN. Nationality had NO significance. Now, the majority of the population, considering themselves Russian, treats their fathers and grandfathers faith quite coolly, and sometimes even hostile. We became “Kinship not remembering Ivanas”, mankurts as Chengiz Aitmatov wrote. To profess to be an Orthodox is considered backward, terry-Middle Ages. Streams of lies are being poured onto the church, and only the lazy ones do not kick the Russian Orthodox Church, it is even considered to be some sort of valor, involvement in the “culture of the 21st century”, and RUSSIANS are silent. A Muslim will not even dream of such a terrible dream if, if a Muslim is denounced his faith, he will simply kill the offender.

So it’s surprising that the mosque in Grozny has become the symbol of Russia. I have nothing against the Muslim faith and I have no complaints about the architecture of the Heart of Chechnya mosque, the building is really very beautiful. I have a question for people who consider themselves RUSSIANS (80%). If a mosque in Grozny is a symbol of Russia, then that driver was right, then we are truly traitors to the faith of our fathers and grandfathers. And the people who have betrayed their faith, unfortunately, are doomed to extinction (such examples in stories humanity is a huge set). I would like to believe that our people will not suffer this fate. Here is a picture of oil.
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  1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 22 August 2013 07: 22
    36
    Those who thought it was possible to vote three times a day, and not once at all, set the goal to make this mosque a symbol of Russia, in general a crazy idea, we are waiting for a scandal! hi
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 22 August 2013 07: 24
      46
      I remembered this conversation now, when there is a vote for the choice of the symbol of Russia. As you know, at the moment, the Heart of Chechnya named after Akhmat Kadyrov is leading by a large margin. Something is really wrong with us, if in Russia 80% considers itself to be Russian, and the symbol of Russia is a Muslim mosque.


      Not with us it’s not so, but with the organizers of this commercial event for knocking out dough from the population.
      Ostap Bender is resting.
      SMS costs 3 rubles 50 kopecks.

      At the moment, more than 6,3 million votes have been cast for the Heart of Chechen mosque (assuming the total population of Chechnya is slightly more than 1,3 million), raising it to first place.

      Almost all votes cast via SMS:

      on site: 871 461
      by SMS: 5 521 204


      The cost of SMS is 3 rubles. 54 cop.
      We multiply by 5 521 204 votes.
      At the moment, we receive more than 19 million rubles, invested by "poor" Chechens in voting for the Akhmat Kadyrov mosque. And this is not the limit. End of voting in September.


      Compare with the same Ascension Troops Cathedral
      http://10russia.ru/object_73
      Or
      Astrakhan Kremlin.
      http://10russia.ru/object_74


      In the top ten is pretty much anything, but not really Russian shrines!

      This is not an honest vote, this is pro-fa-na-qi!
      Shame on you!
      1. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 22 August 2013 07: 54
        14
        Quote: GreatRussia
        Shame on you!

        Indeed, SHAME ... once again confirms that we can claim the title of "Ivanov, not remembering kinship"!
        Many thanks to our DEMOCRACY - it was she who opened the floodgates for the streams of dirty slander from our "free" of honor, conscience, patriotism of the media, TV! "Foreign grants" from the ideological subversive centers of our "sworn" partners are much more valuable than just respect for the Motherland of their fathers and mothers! And after all, they do it consciously and consciously! What the shaggy VENEDIKTOV (chief engineer r \ st ECHO MOSCOW) does not understand what he does ... that his echo is so distorted that it is sometimes difficult to understand ... or is it a live broadcast from the banks of the Potomac or Tel Aviv ... or from a clinic Kashchenko. In all of them TK "RAIN" tries to get around in throwing mud at its Motherland! It seemed that they were slandering! Dirt will not stick to the clean! But everything is not so simple in the field of manipulating our consciousness ... drop by drop, the dirt spewed out by such "hostile voices" overlaps and clogs the pores and cells of good information access.
        I am not against the versatility of our media. I read all three directions ... but I am against a deliberate attack on our consciousness by MOSEC, who received the FAS command from behind!
        I am not against various religions ... but I am categorically against the new "enlightenment" of our Orthodox parishes by ISLAM. There are several reasons ... but the main one is the excessive aggressiveness and misanthropy of modern Islamic trends. You can "minus" me, but first read the newsletter of the leading agencies ... articles on our website ... maybe then at least a little and agree with me!
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 22 August 2013 08: 44
          10
          Quote: KazaK Bo
          REALLY SHAME ...

          ! +! It remains to rename Russia and hello its future ... .Boris, hi !
          1. afire
            afire 22 August 2013 08: 50
            +5
            and what can be done in such a situation? make a mass SMS distribution, be more active yourself, if you don’t do anything, it won’t work, you need to try, in a yesterday’s article they suggested voting for the Kolomna Kremlin, in general, all this voting profanation was in the first place, firstly, a new mosque and no monument is in general, but which of our monuments is better to choose? dismiss the law, all our monuments are exclusive in their individual values, but for the sake of the struggle, the Kolomna Kremlin can be put forward and more actively,
            link http://10russia.ru/object_61
            Come from different observers, opera-mozilla-explorer, from each you can 3 times
            1. Skarte
              Skarte 22 August 2013 10: 51
              +2
              Yeah, just the Kolomna Kremlin in 2nd place
            2. Ustas
              Ustas 22 August 2013 13: 21
              +5
              Quote: afire
              and what can be done in such a situation? make mass SMS distribution, be more active yourself, if you do nothing, then nothing will work out,

              The rules of the game are being created for us from behind the hill, our TV and the press are thoroughly corrupt, these rules inspire us daily. And do you offer to play by their rules?
              I already stopped watching RTR only thanks to this odious vote. And I think that a mosque cannot be a symbol of Russia, a symbol of Chechnya, Dagestan and other Muslim republics, please, but not Russia.
              1. Mairos
                Mairos 22 August 2013 13: 44
                +5
                "I have already stopped watching RTR only thanks to this odious vote"
                And then what? Stop shopping? You will not leave the house at all?
                And that will change the country for the better? afire is right! one must be united and active! Three times right! Enough to believe in the state, nowadays it does not descend to our level and will not solve our problems. Themselves and only themselves. No need to become a skinhead and hate everyone! You must learn to love YOURSELF, to cherish and help your own.
          2. Hon
            Hon 22 August 2013 15: 48
            +2
            Oh, you don’t have to sprinkle ashes on your head, there are a lot of candidates for the symbol of Russia (80), of which there are three or four Muslims, naturally most Muslims have consolidated in voting for one symbol, and we vote differently for someone for the cathedral, someone for the Kremlin, I personally voted for Motherland. So it turns out that the mosque is in the lead.
        2. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 22 August 2013 11: 32
          +3
          "We have become" Ivans of kinship who do not remember ", mankurt as Chengiz Aitmatov wrote. "Culture of the XXI century", and the RUSSIANS are silent. " - It remains only to move the capital to the terrible. And those who throw mud at Christianity, the Russian Orthodox Church, have forgotten their past, live with Western "values" - due to their narrow-mindedness, they do not understand that in that Russia, in which other symbols and values, they will not have the same place or will - in the ranks "slaves" and "servants".
      2. 6 sunrise 9
        6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 08: 57
        0
        By the way, on the site you can also vote for free and, right now, just voted (3 more voices hehe)
      3. bezumnyiPIT
        bezumnyiPIT 22 August 2013 09: 44
        0
        online vote for free
      4. alexng
        alexng 22 August 2013 10: 00
        +6
        Voting by SMS and the Internet is already a profanation, and never reflects the true state of affairs, given that there have been software robots for these purposes for a long time. The one who pays is the one who dances the girl. And about the Muslim expansion in the capital - this is a temporary phenomenon and is associated with the economic confusion during the change of formations in a particular country. In Nature, everything is arranged in such a way that, speaking in the language of mathematics, not one species, but an array of sets, is developed. Nature does not tolerate the dominance or concentration of one species in one place and cruelly deals with this excess to establish balance. The world is ruled by "equilibrium forces" and any excess potential, wherever it comes from, belongs to liquidation. This is the law of Nature. And all attempts to take everything under control are utopia.
        1. Ustas
          Ustas 22 August 2013 13: 25
          +2
          Quote: alexneg
          The world is ruled by "equilibrium forces" and any excess potential, wherever it comes from, belongs to liquidation.

          Do not forget that the path of nature is evolutionary. It takes a long time before the system comes into equilibrium.
        2. Flooding
          Flooding 22 August 2013 13: 58
          +2
          Quote: alexneg
          Nature does not tolerate the dominance or concentration of one species in one place and cruelly deals with this excess to establish balance. The world is ruled by "equilibrium forces" and any excess potential, wherever it comes from, belongs to liquidation. This is the law of Nature

          Yes, if humanity obeyed these very laws of Nature.
          And there would be no great civilizations that have gone into oblivion, nor wars with millions of victims.
      5. RA77
        RA77 22 August 2013 12: 02
        +4
        In short, guys, good news!
        If you vote through the web form (for free), then by voting three times, and then deleting all cookies on this site and updating the page, you can vote three more times. Repeating this, you can vote as many times as desired many times a day from one browser and without changing the IP. I voted 5 times in ~ 15 minutes.
        Well, let's play a mechanical Turk?


        NOTE: I can’t say 100% so far that all the voices sent in this way are accepted by the server, but the client form sends everything without fail. By adding votes in the total counter it was not possible to check, because updating the page there, a hundred votes are added.
        1. RA77
          RA77 22 August 2013 12: 44
          +2
          UPD: It turns out with a static IP that allows you to do this trick only a couple of times. Then writes this IP-Schnick to the next. of the day. This, of course, is also not such a big problem, but since it turns out that the place in the overall standings does not really matter, the game is not worth the candle. We disagree ((
      6. fzr1000
        fzr1000 22 August 2013 12: 30
        +2
        On the site you can vote 3 times for one character until 00.00 hours. Tomorrow again in a new way.
      7. Lukich
        Lukich 23 August 2013 08: 01
        0
        Not with us it’s not so, but with the organizers of this commercial event for knocking out dough from the population.
        Ostap Bender is resting.
        SMS costs 3 rubles 50 kopecks.


        ... GreatRussia SU you correctly calculated - and the truck driver says
        No, dear, you betrayed and sold your faith, now you worship money. For money you are ready to sell anything
        ...

        ... and the text, I saw two errors, one sent an adjustment to the other no - where is the second error ??? ...

        ... and where is the Russian language - great and mighty !!! ??? ...
    2. Hauptmann emil
      Hauptmann emil 22 August 2013 07: 32
      +6
      The one who organized the vote may have wanted people to identify 10 symbols of Russia, but there will always be others who will distort everything and want to make money, and hence the opportunity to vote from one IP address several times. "We wanted the best it turned out as always."
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 22 August 2013 13: 49
        +3
        Yes, then I was surprised at the kind of sensible idea to define the symbols of Russia that should unite the citizens of the country, but it turned out, on the contrary, it separates and inflames interethnic tensions. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe passions will subside and the symbols will unite like the Statue of Liberty or the Eiffel Tower (at first they also caused storm of criticism). In fact, we have become such a symbol "Baiterek" in Astana, although in the beginning there was a lot of criticism.
    3. ed65b
      ed65b 22 August 2013 08: 28
      10
      Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
      Those who thought it was possible to vote three times a day, and not once at all, set the goal to make this mosque a symbol of Russia, in general a crazy idea, we are waiting for a scandal! hi
      One hundred pounds yesterday I voted for the Kremlin 3 times today you can still vote 3 times and plant in Chechnya 1000 trolls so they vote be healthy for a month. competition is biased, cancel it.
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 22 August 2013 08: 48
        +5
        Quote: ed65b
        competition is biased, cancel it.

        Edward, hi ! .. how are you about such an event, belay, it’s just not democratic-liberal and not tolerant fellow wink. You are not surprised- "The elections of the main monuments of the country were organized by the Russian Geographical Society together with several media. Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, who heads the Russian Geographical Society, said in March that the competition would "highlight the versatility and originality of Russia" and promote its image as "a unique country with a rich cultural and natural heritage." Well, if you approach this issue seriously and if we ignore the PR component of the competition, then it is clear that it simply aggravates the old problems of Russia. Formal "multinationality" exists against the background of the unrecognition of the role of the Russian people. Alas and unfortunately ...
      2. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 22 August 2013 08: 50
        +3
        Quote: ed65b
        One hundred pounds yesterday I voted for the Kremlin 3 times today you can still vote 3 times and plant in Chechnya 1000 trolls so they vote be healthy for a month. competition is biased, cancel it.

        And what's the point? Why, for example, not for the Astrakhan Kremlin, which does not fall into the top ten?

        http://10russia.ru/object_74

        Accordingly, it will not be built in Moscow in miniature?

        According to the results of the competition, TOP10 objects will be recreated in miniature on an area of ​​300 hectares in Moscow and will tell tourists about the culture, history and identity of Russia. It is assumed that the park "Russia" will be annually visited by 10 million people.
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 22 August 2013 11: 16
          +2
          I voted for the Kremlin because by rate he almost catches up with the mosque. Though I could somehow compete with the mosque, but in general I would vote for the Baikal, there is no other place more beautiful. my opinion.
        2. nemec55
          nemec55 22 August 2013 11: 56
          +1
          And most of the Russian-speaking population will not see him, because in order to show the children the Kremlin and so on, you need so much dough that ordinary people get cold, and again we are in opera
      3. Denis
        Denis 22 August 2013 10: 00
        +3
        Quote: ed65b
        plant 1000 trolls in Chechnya so they vote for a month be healthy.

        “Our money, by the way.”
    4. Trailer
      Trailer 22 August 2013 08: 45
      10
      Faith, mutual assistance ... nonsense! When the OMON is working to close outlets, when the FMS is working to identify illegal immigrants, then somehow their faith immediately disappears, and their unity, and they surrender, if necessary. Morality - the main thing is not to give permissiveness. And as for voting - a bow to businessmen. And the development of tourism, and for advertising, I think, many have paid, and voting is paid. Everyone directly believes that this vote is of great importance for Russia and the Russians. Nonsense. Who-thread still remembers the results of the competition of the same channel "Name of Russia", where they discussed those who type most of all symbolizes Russia? I personally don't. And even knowing these names didn't change anything for me. All this is a commercial project, and nothing more. And if someone tears up a vest, saying that this is a humiliation of the Russians ... then just watch less TV.
      1. DEfindER
        DEfindER 22 August 2013 10: 41
        +2
        Quote: Karavan
        And if someone is tearing a vest, that they say, this is the humiliation of the Russians ... then just watch TV less.

        I agree, in general I think that it is not necessary to pay so much attention to religion, in the Middle Ages the development of science began only when the church was removed from government. Now look at countries with religious regimes, what they have achieved are still sitting in archaism (Iran I consider more secular than a religious state). The problem of Muslims is that they have faith at the level of fanaticism, and this is purely their problem, they deprive themselves of the opportunity to develop normally. (there is not a single Nobel laureate of a Muslim) I don’t think that we need to involve the church so much in government, but it’s impossible to divide the state with our Orthodox faith. Faith unites the people, and secular power moves it forward.
    5. eplewke
      eplewke 22 August 2013 09: 53
      +2
      Urgently we all run and vote for the Kremlin !!!
    6. kris
      kris 22 August 2013 10: 00
      +6
      Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
      Those who thought it was possible to vote three times a day, and not once at all, set the goal to make this mosque a symbol of Russia, in general a crazy idea, we are waiting for a scandal!

      All these SMS voting- a scam for suckers!
      the one who counts wins! like in the election.
      And about the attacks on the Russian Orthodox Church, the author writes crap. Priests discredit themselves.
      Either a patriarch’s watch for a million, or a drunken pop in an expensive car crushes people.
      They have forgotten the adage "THERE IS NOTHING TO FOOT ON THE MIRROR, ROLL OF A CURVE".
      1. Ustas
        Ustas 22 August 2013 13: 41
        +2
        Quote: kris
        And about the attacks on the ROC, the author writes crap. The priests discredit themselves. Either the patriarch has a million hours, or a drunken pop on an expensive car crushes people. They have forgotten the proverb "THERE IS NOTHING TO FOUND ON THE MIRROR, ROZH ROZVA".

        But you never thought about the fact that the media pull out more negativity about the Russian Orthodox Church, but about other religions, neither, nor. Who do you think is beneficial to blacken everything Russian?
        So what if the watch is expensive. Why is it so enraging you. There Abramovich has several ocean yachts, while others have billions of property over the hill, why don’t you resent their religion?
        It is impossible to judge the entire Orthodox faith by one sinful priest.
        1. kris
          kris 22 August 2013 16: 51
          -1
          Quote: Ustas
          But you never thought about the fact that the media pull out more negativity about the Russian Orthodox Church, but about other religions, neither, nor. Who do you think is beneficial to blacken everything Russian?
          So what if the watch is expensive. Why is it so enraging you. There Abramovich has several ocean yachts, while others have billions of property over the hill, why don’t you resent their religion?
          It is impossible to judge the entire Orthodox faith by one sinful priest.

          The Russian Orthodox Church and the Russian are not the same thing!
          It doesn’t infuriate me, but annoys me that a person who calls for humility and modesty (gundyaev) allows himself such excesses.
          But Abramovich does not teach anyone, but stupidly robs the country.
          He is a huckster and does not climb into shepherds.
          FAITH - was, is and will be. And the Russian Orthodox Church is further and further removed from it.
      2. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 22 August 2013 21: 58
        +1
        Quote: kris
        . Priests discredit themselves.
        That watch for a million from the patriarch,

        What kind of watch? Where is the model number? The one on the OUN photo is a natural photoshop.


        then a drunk pop in an expensive car crushes people.

        In any family, not without freaks. He is no longer pop, pulled back a long time ago.

        Although I understand that you still need to cling to a straw in your indefatigable struggle with Orthodoxy.


        FAITH - was, is and will be. And the Russian Orthodox Church is further and further removed from it.

        The standard / scantan zombie chewing gum distributed among anti-Orthodox Internet activists - neo-pagans, Jehovah's, Pentecostals and so on. rushers pouring water to the eurotollerasty mill.
        1. kris
          kris 22 August 2013 22: 29
          -2
          Quote: GreatRussia
          What kind of watch? Where is the model number? The one on the OUN photo is a natural photoshop.

          Breguet for $ 30 thousand.
          and Photoshop is not OUN.
          “The employees of the photo editorial office made a ridiculous mistake when working with the photo archive hosted on the site. One of the basic principles of our work is the fundamental refusal to use photo editing programs to change the appearance of images, ”the press service of the patriarch said, promising that“ the perpetrators will be severely punished. ”
          Quote: GreatRussia
          Although I understand that you still need to cling to a straw in your indefatigable struggle with Orthodoxy.

          ORTHODOXY and the ROC are two different things.
          1. GreatRussia
            GreatRussia 23 August 2013 07: 10
            -1
            Quote: kris
            Breguet for $ 30 thousand. and Photoshop is not OUN.
            “The employees of the photo editorial office made a ridiculous mistake when working with the photo archive hosted on the site. One of the basic principles of our work is the fundamental refusal to use photo editing programs to change the appearance of images, ”the press service of the patriarch said, promising that“ the perpetrators will be severely punished. ”

            Where is the photo I'm asking you?
            No one deleted the video on the Russian Orthodox Church website. As it hung, it hangs.
            The numbers are also not visible in the photo, so you claimed that this model is Breguet for $ 30 thousand.
            So, hang noodles on the ears of hamsters on swamps.


            ORTHODOXY and the ROC are two different things.

            The standard hackneyed chewing gum of adherents of neopaganism, sectarians and schismatics.
            You are not broadcasting anything new except this slogan ..
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            2. kris
              kris 23 August 2013 22: 05
              0
              Quote: GreatRussia
              Where is the photo I'm asking you?
              No one deleted the video on the Russian Orthodox Church website. As it hung, it hangs.
              The numbers are also not visible in the photo, so you claimed that this model is Breguet for $ 30 thousand.
              So, hang noodles on the ears of hamsters on swamps.

              it is you all zadolbili with your noodles, servant of God! Aren't you the reincarnation of the three-legged?
    7. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 22 August 2013 10: 34
      +5
      And I just voted 3 times for Kolomna. Out of principle, and in spite of black.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 22 August 2013 11: 27
        +2
        "We are united by the faith of our fathers, therefore we are strength. And we are united by our faith," I answered him. No, dear, you betrayed your faith and sold it, you now worship money. For money, you are ready to sell anything. "- look, and then the Czechs and other money do not worship? Even as they worship, they do not consider someone who has no money as a person. In this I disagree with the author. But the question raised in the article is very relevant. We cannot allow this mosque to win, this is nonsense. Even if they vote every second by the whole republic, there are still many more of us, you just need to be more active.
      2. Denis
        Denis 22 August 2013 12: 53
        +1
        Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
        And I just voted 3 times for Kolomna. Out of principle, and in spite of black.

        The symbol of Russia should have historical value, what is the value of a mosque? - unlimited budget, Russian dough cars ???
    8. Airman
      Airman 22 August 2013 11: 37
      +2
      Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
      Those who thought it was possible to vote three times a day, and not once at all, set the goal to make this mosque a symbol of Russia, in general a crazy idea, we are waiting for a scandal! hi

      And who invented that the Caucasus has little to 50 billion, and decided to allocate another 230 billion? Therefore, they build these mosques at our ACCOUNT.
    9. fzr1000
      fzr1000 22 August 2013 12: 21
      +3
      In Chechnya, within the framework of the Grozny-City-2 project, it is planned to build a 400-meter-high tower. The project includes a high-rise multifunctional complex, which will bear the name Akhmat Tower. According to Alexander Zusik, chief architect of Architecton LLC (Moscow), the height of the 80-storey building, symbolizing the medieval watchtower, will be 365 meters, and together with the spire - all 400 meters.

      "In fact, this is a vertical city, because the tower will collect many urban functions. Up to 10 thousand jobs will be created at the construction stage of the building and related industries. We think the Akhmat Tower will become worthy of the memory of Akhmat-Khadzhi," he said A. Zusik.

      The complex includes: the museum of the first president of Chechnya, Akhmat-Hadji Kadyrov, 100 luxury apartments, a hotel with 500 rooms, panoramic restaurants with international culinary culture, offices, high-altitude helipads, fitness centers, swimming pools.

      In the lower, stylobate part of the tower there will be halls 50 m high with four separate entrances to the hotel, apartments, offices and the administrative part. At the top of the hall is a circular gallery 600 m long.

      In addition, at the suggestion of R. Kadyrov, it was decided to build a large basin on top of the Sunzha River along its entire length along Grozny-City-2. The result is a two-story river, according to the press service of the government of the Chechen Republic.

      What a hell not to build if "Allah" has up to ...
      1. Denis
        Denis 22 August 2013 13: 15
        +2
        Quote: fzr1000
        What a hell not to build if "Allah" has up to ...

        He is probably a shareholder of Gazprom. smile
    10. ildar335
      ildar335 22 August 2013 19: 19
      0
      firstly, the article is correctly written! Muslims really BELIEVE IN THEIR RELIGION !!!
      By the way, I’m a Tatar, I voted for the Smolensk wall, and it’s a shame for me that dolbyodyaty from Smolensk helm ruined such a monument !!!
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  3. Docklishin
    Docklishin 22 August 2013 07: 37
    +2
    My personal opinion is in our purely tolerant world, where people with a third gender appear in some countries (Germany, Australia), it seems to me not bad when in a multiconfessional state the symbol of FAITH comes first. And besides - this will be a good example of popularizing our own Orthodox Church - we can finally pay attention and will periodically visit it. Z.Y. Letting West envy. Russia is the center of Orthodoxy - but we do not forget about other faiths. Politics however ...
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 22 August 2013 07: 59
      0
      From a more frequent visit to churches, nothing will change. Consciousness in people should change in the first place. And then we go or pious old ladies, or all the rest, but when it comes to life in any situation. In America, people (not all of course, but still more than ours) go to church every weekend.
  4. Ulysses
    Ulysses 22 August 2013 07: 44
    +5
    Quote: Hauptmann Emil
    The one who organized the vote may have wanted people to identify 10 symbols of Russia, but there will always be others who will distort everything and want to make money, and hence the opportunity to vote from one IP address several times. "We wanted the best it turned out as always."

    From one IP, but from different browsers, you can vote multiple times.
    Vrchem steers the loot (SMS), and this is our money sent to the Caucasus as part of the state program.
    And returned in the form of SMS for "the mosque of the great Akhmat."
    Marasmus.
    1. Basileus
      Basileus 22 August 2013 07: 50
      +5
      What returns in the form of SMS is just a drop in the ocean of allocated billions. Voting is delusional, but you do not expect another from a commercial project.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 22 August 2013 07: 54
      +5
      Quote: Ulysses
      Vrchem steers the loot (SMS),

      Oh, don't tell me! It's politics! I remember how, being in Russia, a survey was conducted on historical figures. I.V. Stalin was ranked first. I wanted to send a second SMS - with the justification of my opinion - and in response to "Nizza" to vote twice. "So, in addition to the dough, all this is well controlled and directed in the" right direction "
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 22 August 2013 08: 01
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        So in addition to the bubble, all this is well controlled and directed in the "right direction"


        Kadyrov called the victory of his mosque in the competition of symbols of Russia "Triumph of tolerance" in the country and the world. wassat


        The Heart of Chechnya mosque is now the leader in the competition, according to the results of which ten visual symbols of Russia will be selected. At a meeting in Gudermes, Kadyrov called for more active voting for the mosque in the competition.

        “If in Russia in such a competition a mosque comes out on top, this will be a triumph of tolerance. As I know, residents of other regions of Russia and abroad vote for our mosque. Even non-Muslims vote. Moreover, it’s so active that sometimes it even seems to me that people vote less for a mosque in our republic, ”Kadyrov quoted the official website of the Chechen government.


        Russian nationalists in social networks expressed indignation at Kadyrov’s statement and the leadership of the mosque in the competition. In the ru_nsn community, users are calling for a vote-up vote for the Kolomna Kremlin. “We will not let tolerance triumph! Let's not let the mosque become a symbol of Russia! Take part in the vote, you can vote 3 times in 12 hours. Vote for the Kolomna Kremlin! ” - write in the community.

        The final vote for the symbols of Russia will be held from September 2 to 29. Now there is a second round of voting, 80 objects take part in it. Among them are Lake Baikal, Kizhi, the Nizhny Novgorod Kremlin, the Curonian Spit, the estate of Santa Claus in Veliky Ustyug.
        http://www.city-n.ru/view/328196.html
  5. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 22 August 2013 07: 49
    +8
    Quote: DocKlishin
    My personal opinion is in our purely tolerant world, where people with a third gender (Germany, Australia) appear in some countries, it seems to me not bad when in a multiconfessional state the symbol of FAITH comes first. And besides - this will be a good example of popularizing our own Orthodox Church - we can finally pay attention and will periodically visit it. Z.Y. Letting West envy. Russia is the center of Orthodoxy - but we do not forget about other faiths. Politics however ..

    The only thing I agree with is that this profanation is an undeniable sign for the Slavs to unite, including around their ancient values.
    1. Docklishin
      Docklishin 22 August 2013 07: 58
      +4
      Definitely. To you +. Understood the meaning hi
    2. ildar335
      ildar335 22 August 2013 22: 04
      0
      I confirm and plus! fellow
  6. Dangerous
    Dangerous 22 August 2013 07: 54
    +3
    Why is this vote and this contest in general? Absolutely on the drum who and what will win there. It seems that there were such projects already, they chose the leader himself. And who remembers this? And from the fact that if this mosque wins, I won’t stop being Russian and I won’t go there to look at it.
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 22 August 2013 07: 59
      +1
      Quote: Dangerous
      Why is this vote and this contest in general? Absolutely on the drum who and what will win there. It seems that there were such projects already, they chose the leader himself. And who remembers this? And from the fact that if this mosque wins, I won’t stop being Russian and I won’t go there to look at it.

      To that:

      According to the results of the competition, TOP10 objects will be recreated in miniature on an area of ​​300 hectares in Moscow and will tell tourists about the culture, history and identity of Russia. It is assumed that the park "Russia" will be annually visited by 10 million people.
      http://serdce-chechni.ru/index.php/islamskoe-pravo/item/437-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4%D
      0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B4%D1%86%D0%B5-%D1%87%D
      0%B5%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8
      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 22 August 2013 08: 11
        0
        And what's so surprising? Previously, subsidies to the Caucasus were direct, now in such a veiled way ... If you decided to give a place in the park for a model of a mosque upstairs, even if everyone in Russia votes for something else, they’ll get theirs and they’ll do their own
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    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 22 August 2013 08: 07
      +2
      Quote: Standard Oil
      As for the kicking of the Russian Orthodox Church, no one has done more to denigrate the Russian Orthodox Church than the Russian Orthodox Church itself

      Quote: Standard Oil
      ,have money heal and learnyou can pray, no money go illiterate and sick, but rather die

      How do you nasty stuffing do. Not a ride, my dear. Not at the anti-clerical gay party.


      And on the topic:

      Dmitry Rogozin @Rogozin August 20
      Life http://pda.itar-tass.com/c16/845645.html Well done. I support

      https://twitter.com/Rogozin

      Pyatigorsk, August 19. / ITAR-TASS /. The head of the Ministry of Finance, Anton Siluanov, criticized the republics of the North Caucasus for high expenses on officials and a fleet for their maintenance.

      Speaking at a meeting of the government commission on the socio-economic development of the North Caucasus Federal District, he singled out Chechnya as the most wasteful republic in terms of maintaining vehicle fleets for officials. "Champion" we have the Chechen Republic; with the average number of cars on the balance sheet of government agencies or that are rented by government agencies is 0,06 per employee, then in the Chechen Republic - 0,27 ", - Siluanov illustrated his thesis, explaining that the fleet of officials of this republic is about half of the fleet of officials of the entire Northern Caucasus.

      "That is, there is room for optimization," he summed up.

      Siluanov also emphasized that if the average number of civil servants per one thousand inhabitants in Russia is 1,8, in the North Caucasus this figure is 2,1, and in Ingushetia - 4,6.

      In addition, the minister criticized the size of expenses for officials. So, if on average in Russia they are 1,5 thousand rubles per one thousand population, then, for example, in Chechnya - 3 thousand rubles, in Kabardino-Balkaria 2 thousand rubles.

      Siluanov also advised the republics of the North Caucasus to significantly increase tax collection, including reducing transport tax benefits. Speaking at a meeting of the government commission on the socio-economic development of the North Caucasus Federal District, he noted that the ratio of tax revenues to gross regional product in the Caucasus is 0,1, while on average in Russia this figure exceeds 0,2.

      Siluanov explained that he means the possibility of greater collection of property taxes, as well as the transport tax, the amount of benefits for which in the Caucasus is 3,2 billion rubles. "The tax return from one vehicle in the North Caucasus Federal District is 460 rubles, and in the Russian Federation as a whole - 2 thousand rubles per car," the minister stated. In addition, Siluanov advised to reduce subsidies to the economy, to which about 7% of the own incomes of the subjects of the Federation are directed in the North Caucasus.
  8. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 22 August 2013 08: 16
    +7
    All these votes are complete rubbish!
    Aimed at separation, bitterness and mutual hatred!
    Look at the comments: If the mosque was 2 or 20, no one would say anything bad. But then another outcast would have appeared.
    We all (hopefully) love our homeland and our land no matter where - the village, seaside, north!
    But one preference. always provokes the indignation of another.
    I think that it can very well determine the most beautiful places, structures of Russia. But you can not compare them every place, good and beautiful in its own way.
    One should not give preference to something, only because someone has more opportunity and money to vote! And in general it is impossible to divide even more so by places and categories
    RUSSIA IS ONE AND NOT DIVIDE
    1. Drednout
      Drednout 22 August 2013 13: 08
      0
      Quote: Ruswolf
      One should not give preference to something, only because someone has more opportunity and money to vote! And in general it is impossible to divide even more so by places and categories
      RUSSIA IS ONE AND NOT DIVIDE

      Golden words Alex! Natural provocation or absolute incompetence and shortsightedness of the organizers of such a rating are obvious!
    2. ildar335
      ildar335 22 August 2013 22: 05
      0
      handsome !!! well said !!! hi
      Quote: Ruswolf
      RUSSIA IS ONE AND NOT DIVIDE
  9. rekrut
    rekrut 22 August 2013 08: 20
    +4
    You bought us rights for dollars with gratuities; there are no other ideals.
  10. Muadipus
    Muadipus 22 August 2013 08: 33
    +3
    The problem is not that there are many of them, but that we are few. And not that your opponent is strong in something, but that you are weak in this. Need to give birth more. And support each other.
  11. 6 sunrise 9
    6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 08: 33
    +4
    Well, because of the contest for Russia24, everyone started whining here, like the author of this article. Well, whiners never win. The non-population of Moscow is more than 12 million (every Muscovite would vote and there are no problems), Muslims are 70 thousand strong, but the Russians are already crap. I did not read the article.
    With such an attitude, Muslims will rule you in Moscow, and we Russians will need to do something in the Urals ... we still have eggs, unlike some.
    1. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 22 August 2013 11: 16
      +2
      Quote: 6Sunrise9
      and we Russian in the Urals will need to do something ...

      Have you already collected warm things? ..
      1. 6 sunrise 9
        6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 13: 03
        +1
        I live in the Urals. And as for the comment, I did not urge to disconnect the Urals from the Russian Federation, but we are not Muscovites or Petersburgers, we are not willing to put up with antics. All the Russian media, for example, rang out the Pugachev, and the fact that in Omsk the visiting Caucasians were kicked off, so the media keep quiet about this. There are 10 cities where the residents themselves threw out visitors and "cleaned the city", so why do Muscovites do not want to do this? Only we hear blah-blah-blah everything is gone, we will die, the power has betrayed, the Caucasians are twisting. When the monument to Soviet partisans was desecrated, why did one of the Muscovites not stop them, why did they not press these monkeys in the face? Why for the massacre of rams in the yards, children. sites, etc. Muscovites didn’t kick off Muslims ???? You yourself are to blame for allowing them to behave this way.
        1. stroporez
          stroporez 22 August 2013 15: 08
          -1
          Quote: 6Sunrise9
          Why for the massacre of sheep in the yards, det. sites and so on. Muscovites neppinali Muslims?
          ------- it turns out not tolerant ..... if they are not able to sweep up their yards and streets themselves, then sho wait ........ while the Muscovite will "zapadlo" take up a broom or a gas key, until then, the "main" will be "dzhamshuts"
  12. Whole
    Whole 22 August 2013 08: 35
    +4
    And who is counting the votes? If Churov, then I’m personally calm, the symbol that the GDP will put his eye on will win. All these votes are stupid profanity!
  13. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 22 August 2013 08: 43
    +2
    ...., we will open our companies everywhere, build mosques, and you will work for us. Why, I asked him. Everything is very simple. We Muslims always support each other in any business.e. and we православныеwhat are we doing ... after all, HORSE on earth ... or is not visible to anyone ... hi
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  15. taseka
    taseka 22 August 2013 08: 48
    +2
    Consistently from the 1905 of the year, the original Orthodox culture is destroyed - folk dances, the Russian people do not dance (that wave of hands and squats, does not count), folk national costume unlike other fraternal peoples, he doesn’t know and don’t put on his national holidays (unless you see the carnival at the folklore ensemble), folk songs unless older people still remember at the table, historical dates of Russian history He doesn’t remember, doesn’t note and doesn’t know the essence, he doesn’t read Russian writers and poets. That's where you need to start in our beloved country, then the original concept of the homeland will become closer !!!
  16. Anti
    Anti 22 August 2013 08: 54
    +1
    The author was mistaken in the table of contents of the article, I give a hint, Symbol of Muslims of Russia! smile
    1. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 22 August 2013 11: 11
      +2
      Quote: Anti
      The author was mistaken in the table of contents of the article, I give a hint, Symbol of Muslims of Russia! smile

      Even if the author was mistaken, why should a mosque in Grozny become a "symbol of Muslims of Russia"? .. And why not a mosque (for example) in Kazan? .. Or in Ufa? ..
      Indeed, judging sensibly (!!!), Islam in the Volga region has more ancient and more traditional roots than in the North Caucasus, where it was (more or less finally) accepted only in the first half of the XNUMXth century. Before that, they were either Christians or pagans ...
      So whatever you say - everywhere a fake and everywhere a fake with this "symbol" ... wink
      1. Anti
        Anti 24 August 2013 17: 03
        0
        Quote: Chicot 1
        Even if the author was mistaken, why should a mosque in Grozny become a "symbol of Muslims of Russia"? .. And why not a mosque (for example) in Kazan? .. Or in Ufa? ..


        To me, (honestly) deep in the drum, in Grozny or in Kazan or in Ufa (if the latter, put their sights to the vote) is their symbol. But I do not care if there is their symbol, or a symbol of some other denomination, a symbol of Russia. For me there is a symbol and this is the Kremlin with Red Square, it was and will be so! And the rest is mouse fuss.
  17. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 22 August 2013 09: 03
    +4
    Something smells very divorce about this topic with a vote, in the worst case dubious PR.
    1. piterkras
      piterkras 22 August 2013 09: 20
      +2
      What the hell is a divorce? It’s just that in the Caucasus someone purposefully hammering 3 times a day for a mosque, and in the rest of Russia, everyone does not care about this vote. Here is the result. Who are you kidding? Yourself only?
      1. 6 sunrise 9
        6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 09: 30
        -1
        There on the site 3 times you can vote, you feel sorry for 5 minutes of your life to spend on this? Voting is free there.
      2. FunkschNNX
        FunkschNNX 22 August 2013 10: 15
        +1
        Yeah, and probably the gap is always minimal. Admins probably wind the counter themselves to warm up interest.
        Can we still discuss voting in "classmates"? Like "who is better: Christians or Muslims?" or "who is prettier: blondes or brunettes?"
  18. Per se.
    Per se. 22 August 2013 09: 34
    +4
    Who even needed to come up with a search for this "symbol", with a vote by SMS? Specialists, historians and ethnographers should deal with such issues. Bullshit was invented, bullshit and it turns out, with someone's tambourine interest with a political flavor.
  19. RA77
    RA77 22 August 2013 09: 38
    +1
    I’ve looked for the Church of the Intercession on the Nerl in the list, but I didn’t find anything. It's a pity. At least 10th person, but would vote for her.

    Well, as I see it, the voting results will simply be canceled and that’s all. How can you seriously take the results of voting, the clumsiness of the implementation of which even non-professionals understand?

  20. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 22 August 2013 09: 39
    +2
    This competition (with such conditions) was clearly invented by liberalists to once again humiliate Russia. I imagine how they will mock the Russians .. It’s not worth worrying about this .. There are many beautiful and clean places in Russia and they don’t need any competitions. .votes
  21. dimon-media
    dimon-media 22 August 2013 09: 47
    +2
    So why be surprised that the mosque in Grozny became the symbol of Russia

    In fact of the matter. Keyword here a mosque in Grozny! It would be strange to see in the capital of Chechnya, Grozny, the symbol of Russia, our Orthodox Church. Why does the Muslim need Orthodoxy? That is, - what for a goat button accordion ??? If this happened in Moscow or Nizhny Novgorod, I would really be surprised and shocked. And so ... let Kadyrov do what he wants at home. Whatever the child would entertain, if only he would not cry.
    1. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 22 August 2013 11: 02
      +1
      Quote: dimon-media
      And so ... let Kadyrov do what he wants at home. Whatever the child would entertain, if only he would not cry.

      Too much of this child is allowed. And the more it is allowed, the more this child begins to spoil ...
      And isn’t it time to end this mess? .. What do you think, Mr. President? .. For example, I personally already got tired of it. And you, Vladimir Vladimirovich? ..
  22. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 22 August 2013 09: 48
    0
    you need to clone Stalin, then the FMS will not be required
  23. nik111
    nik111 22 August 2013 09: 51
    0
    “Tens of thousands of people today came to the stadium of the Voikovo village of Grozny in order to support the main attraction of the North Caucasus“ Heart of Chechnya ”at the All-Russian competition“ Russia 10 ”.

    Here were festivities, the participants of which voted for the mosque to them. Akhmad-Hadji Kadyrov's “Heart of Chechnya” at the All-Russian contest “Russia 10”, sending SMS messages with the text “31 31 31” to the number 1880.

    The festive atmosphere and a single desire to win rallied the population, the time is already past midnight, and people at the stadium do not disperse, which has a beneficial effect on the number of votes cast for the “Heart of Chechnya”, which currently stands at 6202767 votes, against 5 582 427 votes, given for the Kolomna Kremlin.

    Among the participants of the action are more than three hundred employees of the Ministry of Territorial Development, National Policy and Mass Communications of the Czech Republic and enterprises subordinate to it.

    http://www.chechnyatoday.com/content/view/274498/89"

    Here's how to vote!)
    But in general it’s unpleasant that we allow this ... uninhabited ((
    1. piterkras
      piterkras 22 August 2013 10: 49
      -1
      You yourself are not rich. You are afraid of them, and try on the laurels of others. Get rid of the computer!
  24. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 22 August 2013 09: 57
    +2
    Yesterday there was an article on how Seliger Caucasians killed the operator, they beat for as long as 0 minutes and no one ran into it, Caucasians themselves are participants
  25. nemec55
    nemec55 22 August 2013 10: 01
    +5
    We have most of the inhabitants of Russia do not have the Internet and do not know how and where to vote + income, for those who have money for everything and those who do not have because because there is not enough bread. Yes, and we do not mind 3 rubles for symbol. We are sorry to give them to the mushrooms, which for all symbols and for us. The main thing for these dwellers is to earn money, and what and how they do.
    1. nemec55
      nemec55 22 August 2013 10: 16
      +3
      The coolest thing is that a resident of a village in the Irkutsk region (for example) pays taxes for which they spend the Internet in Chechnya and choose a mosque as a symbol of Russia (shoot a gun and save everything)
  26. VadimSt
    VadimSt 22 August 2013 10: 15
    +3
    Even when the topic of the national symbol was posted here, I expressed my opinion - the symbol of Russia, it is the state flag and anthem. Everything else should be clearly indicated - a natural or architectural masterpiece and so on, otherwise this symbol will turn into nonsense, which is directed against the foundations of the state.
    As a result, the lack of foresight of the mass media entertainers and ignoring the possible political and ideological consequences, the competition grew into a religious and political adventure.
    1. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 22 August 2013 10: 57
      +2
      Bravo, Vadim! I agree completely and completely! ..
  27. leon-iv
    leon-iv 22 August 2013 10: 19
    +2
    You are not here, but vote for the Kolomna Kremlin
    http://10russia.ru/object_61#
    Show the integrity of the people.
  28. Yeraz
    Yeraz 22 August 2013 10: 21
    +1
    go nuts again the same thing. Che yesterday's article was not enough ??
    Yes, 80% of Russians, but 80 of them are atheists, and the other part doesn’t even hear about this contest and remains a little more or less active, which is leveled by the united Chechen Republic with the help of the Muslim Muslims of the Caucasus and other Muslims of Russia. the first place is stupid incitement to hatred and at the same time make money.
    And I’m not surprised at the result of how these 80% support each other on the street, how 2 representatives of these 16% are building in Army 80, because of fear that the small Caucasus will spread rot, 80% canceled the call. And when they partially resumed, how these 80 became flustered. Therefore, all these calls vote bullshit, MUCH TO ONE PLACE !!
  29. sigdoc
    sigdoc 22 August 2013 10: 21
    +2
    The word Russia associates the whole world with Red Square, the Moscow Kremlin and St. Basil's Cathedral. And this project is an advertisement for the Caucasus
  30. agbykov
    agbykov 22 August 2013 10: 31
    0
    Regarding the change of peoples, a good article: http://topwar.ru/29410-esli-odin-narod-pobezhdaet-drugoy.html
  31. AleksUkr
    AleksUkr 22 August 2013 10: 42
    +3
    Quote: GreatRussia
    Kadyrov called the victory of his mosque in the competition of symbols of Russia "a triumph of tolerance" in the country and the world.


    MARASME AND SHAME - IN LARGE LETTERS. Our rulers have not understood anything yet and, as always, have not calculated the results. And the consequences can violate a lot in the system of relations with the Caucasus.
  32. komsomolets
    komsomolets 22 August 2013 10: 45
    +5
    These small nations are too self-confident. WILL NOT be, neither Great Chechnya, nor Dagestan, nor Moldavia-Silenka are enough and mind is not enough. Family ties and country ties are good, but something more is needed. peoples) can not. Do not confuse the protection of the bazaar trade, etc. crime with the construction of the State, they simply did not reach their hands, yet.
  33. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 22 August 2013 10: 54
    +3
    M-dya ... They survived, his mother's leg! .. In a coffin and in white slippers I saw the one who proclaimed such a "symbol of Russia" ... And those, however, too, who voted for him ...
    I don’t like what I voiced here? .. So, run and complain to Kadyrov! ..
  34. Skarte
    Skarte 22 August 2013 10: 56
    +2
    Everything is very simple, we Muslims always support each other in any business. Something is hard to believe, but you kill each other there in the Caucasus. It is there, and here we are, primarily Muslims, and only then Karachai (he himself was a representative of this people), Ingush, Chechen.

    Tatars, Kazakhs are also Muslims, however, many of them do not particularly like "comrades" from the Caucasus!
  35. ed65b
    ed65b 22 August 2013 11: 18
    +1
    The triumph of tolerance ramzan said. Maybe we’ll put a monument to Gays in Grozny. Then exactly tolerance will be. laughing
  36. fzr1000
    fzr1000 22 August 2013 11: 26
    +3
    "And we are united by our faith, I answered him. No, dear, you betrayed your faith and sold it, you now bow down to money. For money, you are ready to sell anything."


    All this is garbage. All of these Karachays, Chechens, Dagis and Ingush were the first to cut their throats because of money. I worked and work with them (such a business) - all these beautiful stories about the Pan-Caucasian Brotherhood are for NTV and other stuff. Grandmas is their god. As a rule, most of them do not know how to create anything. To work with your head and hands is not a jigit's business. Cheat, grease, vtyuhut yes, their environment. There are good exceptions, but today it is precisely the exceptions, there are always decent people everywhere, but it was in Moscow that the concentration went crazy, both from the Caucasus, and generally from everywhere, it just rolls over.
    I am sure that if really bloody clashes begin in Moscow or any other large city, non-Caucasians will very quickly cooperate against the "horsemen" and we will see who else will.
    1. Skarte
      Skarte 22 August 2013 11: 37
      +2
      In fact, I wanted to write ... This driver from the Caucasus, went to Moscow not for faith, but for money (and tells stories) ... You won’t be full of faith!
      1. Natalia
        Natalia 22 August 2013 15: 34
        +1
        Quote: Skarte
        In fact, I wanted to write ... This driver from the Caucasus, went to Moscow not for faith, but for money (and tells stories) ... You won’t be full of faith!

        .... yes they went, if necessary we soak them in the toilet. (as GDP said)
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    1. vadimN
      vadimN 22 August 2013 11: 59
      +2
      Quote: slaventi
      .If all Russians voted for one character, they would be ahead of the mark.


      It is precisely that we do not have a symbol of unity. There are so many beautiful places and monuments in Russia that it’s hard to concentrate on one thing.
      The "organizers" of this show took advantage of this. To crush the Russians against the background of the consolidation of Muslims.

      With all due respect to peaceful Islam, a mosque’s victory in the competition would not in any way reflect the true mood of the country's people.

      Therefore, you just need to choose this one symbol now and concentrate all our voices on it, even if we do not consider it worthy to be a single symbol of Russia. Now this is not a symbol, but a moral victory!
  38. slaventi
    slaventi 22 August 2013 11: 50
    +5
    The Russia 10 contest, organized by the Russia 1 television channel. And the bosses have all the main TV channels abroad, in particular in the US State Department. I think that our TV is anti-Russian and anti-state, I probably don’t need to prove it. Perhaps this contest is held specifically for provocation incitement to hatred. By the way, advertising has gone on TV recently when nothing can be changed. And as for the numbers, this is the result of the genocide of the Russian people, physical and spiritual, that has been going on for more than 20 years. ado.Esli have all voted in favor of Russian one character that Kolomna Kremlin would have won by a wide margin.
  39. vadimN
    vadimN 22 August 2013 11: 55
    +1
    http://10russia.ru/object_61

    The discrepancy between the mosque and the Kolomna Kremlin is narrowing!
    on 11: 53 of today
    mosque - 6 612 258 votes
    Kremlin - 6 055 045 votes

    Damn, who feel sorry for three rubles for SMS, go to the site and vote three times for free!
    1. Skarte
      Skarte 22 August 2013 12: 20
      +1
      10 leaders of the finals are not ranked. During the final there will be no first or tenth places, only a dozen leaders and twenty pursuers.

      The winners of the project are 10 sites with the highest number of votes in the final sum of Internet voting and SMS voting.
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 22 August 2013 12: 31
      -3
      Quote: vadimN
      Damn, who feel sorry for three rubles for SMS, go to the site and vote three times for free!

      Well damn it’s ridiculously sorry for 3 rubles lol
      we sat down 30 sms yesterday sent for the Mosque.
      Today voted from 15 computers))) bully
  40. Martar
    Martar 22 August 2013 12: 29
    +1
    This topic is a provocation of pure water. The mosque became not a symbol of Russia, but one of the symbols of Russia. Do not confuse the concept. If this is understood, then such a topic would not have arisen.
    Taken from the official website of the project http://10russia.ru/about:
    "The goal of the project is to maintain a steady interest in our country as an object of domestic and international tourism, a story about the unique geographical, architectural and historical sites of Russia, the formation of a new wave of" geopatriotism "in the regions. One of the most important functions of the project is to promote the image of Russia as a unique country with the richest cultural and natural heritage.Population of the greatest monuments of architecture and nature will emphasize the versatility and originality of Russia. The objective of the project is the selection of ten new visual symbols of Russia through a nationwide vote."
    And the fact that there are more votes for the mosque, it only says that Muslims really want to see themselves in the history of Russia, and for us, the majority, for the most part, all this is "to the lantern", because if it were not so, then you will agree , in the first place the mosque did not stand, it may be in the top ten, but not in the first place.
    Answer yourself, how many times have you voted for the characters?
  41. Des10
    Des10 22 August 2013 12: 30
    +1
    All the rules, voted on the site, and SMS.
  42. Boot under the carpet
    Boot under the carpet 22 August 2013 12: 38
    +1
    Chechnya at least eat some money. The mosque of the name itself, you know who and this person was worthless, roughly speaking, to hire a crowd of shkolota for 50 rubles a day, so that they would sit and poke buttons daily ... Here you have the result! No wonder! It feels like we are being bullied.
  43. GOGY
    GOGY 22 August 2013 12: 54
    +1
    The topic struck a chord, I was not interested in all these votes, since I spend most of the summer in the country (there’s no business there), I climb on the Internet from time to time, and here, it turns out, I voted for such things 6 times, from Mozilla and explorer, no problems, and I will continue to vote for Kolomna, can we really defeat the Chechens? Guys, let's harness it, a matter of principle. And tell everyone you know, I think there are many who don’t know.
  44. Martar
    Martar 22 August 2013 12: 56
    -2
    Quote: Boot under the carpet
    Chechnya at least eat some money. The mosque of the name itself, you know who and this person was worthless, roughly speaking, to hire a crowd of shkolota for 50 rubles a day, so that they would sit and poke buttons daily ... Here you have the result! No wonder! It feels like we are being bullied.

    This is the comment of the troll)))
  45. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 22 August 2013 13: 02
    +1
    Already that day I've been watching hamster splashes on the net, it's funny to God, what kind of nonsense does not write "enough to feed Kansas" wassat
  46. Drednout
    Drednout 22 August 2013 13: 04
    +1
    So why be surprised that the mosque in Grozny became the symbol of Russia
    Here let all the tourists go there first of all from the geyrop and carry in that case, otherwise the Hermitage and the Kremlin give it to these foreigners! bully
    At the same time, the teip economy in Zindans will be raised.
  47. Martar
    Martar 22 August 2013 13: 08
    -1
    By the way, who wants objectivity, summarize the votes by district and compare the number of votes in the North Caucasian district and all other districts. Everything will become clear to you.
  48. zevs379
    zevs379 22 August 2013 13: 30
    0
    After such "symbols" of Russia and the Chechen guard of the Kremlin, a natural question arises - are you Putin RUSSIAN? On business looking exactly Chechen !!!!!!!
    1. 6 sunrise 9
      6 sunrise 9 22 August 2013 13: 36
      -3
      Muslim symbols - 1, Buddhist symbols - 1, Russian symbols - 8.
      What is the problem of daragi? Menshebs cunts ***, more would have voted on the site.
  49. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 22 August 2013 13: 37
    +3
    The symbol of today's Russia is the oil pipe
  50. Leon779
    Leon779 22 August 2013 14: 00
    +1
    So the vote is still going on until September 29, like, and the gap is narrowing. So still ahead smile