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Syrian "opposition" kills children, and honest journalists fight for their homeland

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Syrian "opposition" kills children, and honest journalists fight for their homelandAleppo ... Two boys, 10-12 years old, are kneeling at the wall of a small, nondescript house. A terrorist in a mask covering his face reads the verdict ... No other participants in this Lynch trial over the children are seen in the video - but they are present behind the scenes. After reading the sentence, the cries of "Allah Akbar" are heard. Shots sound and the boys are dead.
Their whole "fault" was that they were born in those areas where the people support the army and oppose the bandits. The monstrous court convicted the extremist organization Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, which belongs to Al-Qaeda.

Earlier, a similar “lynch court” sentenced two elderly priests to death, who were then cut off their heads and showed them to the crowd screaming for joy.

Now they are judging and executing children ... And this is also not the first case in the same Aleppo. The world remembers how two months ago, in the Al-Shaar quarter, terrorists shot 15-year-old teenager Muhammad Kataa, who was selling coffee, accusing him of "heresy."

A BBC reporter, Paul Wood, spoke with the mother of the murdered boy. She said that Muhammad was a good son, whom everyone in the area loved. In the last year, he did not go to school (like many children, from whom the terrorists took away the right to a normal childhood). Helping the family survive, he sold coffee from a cart. When one militant demanded to sell him coffee for free, the boy answered something like: “Not before the Prophet returns.” Further, as the mother said, Muhammad was shoved into a car. Half an hour later he was taken out beaten. But this villains are not satisfied. They began to gather people with cries, including the teenager’s mother. One of them shouted: "He who insults the Prophet will be killed by Sharia law."

“I ran barefoot into the street and heard the first shot. They shot their son and kicked him. I turned to them: “Why are you killing him? After all, he is still a child! ”“ He is not a Muslim, go away, ”they shouted at me.”

The BBC correspondent, who believes in “democracy”, quotes one of the supporters of the “opposition”, who says: “We used to have freedom, now there are Sharia courts everywhere.”

Further, in his report, the reporter described how such a “court” in the city of Serakib sentenced a man to a public whipping for theft, and the sentence was immediately executed. Judging by the Sharia, a more severe punishment is imposed for such a crime — from cutting off the right hand to the death penalty — but since the one who stole was one of the militants, he was simply whipped up.

Well, and those who do not belong to the terrorists, and especially do not support them - the “Sharia courts” impose draconian death sentences, regardless of age, or gender, or san ... We see the result in the video - the execution of priests, the execution of children . And, of course, mass slaughter cases occur without any verdicts - the killing of hundreds of people in the Khan Al-Asal district of Aleppo province, the massacre of Kurds near the city of Tel Abyad, the barbaric crimes of gangsters in the north of Lattakia province, where that they are from Alawite families.
World human rights activists are silent, and if their voices are heard, it is only in defense of the so-called "rebels" - those who are pulling the country in the Middle Ages ...

Syria celebrates Journalist Day

22 a year ago, the Union of Journalists was formed in Syria. August 15 celebrates Journalist Day in the country.

On this occasion, a delegation of leaders and workers from leading Syrian media visited the wounded soldiers at the Yusef Al-Azme Hospital. Journalists wished the soldiers a speedy recovery. The soldiers said they wanted to return to the ranks as soon as possible and continue the battle with the terrorists until they were completely expelled from every inch of the Syrian land.

Chairman of the Syrian Union of Journalists, Ilyas Murad, on the occasion of the journalist’s day, made a statement in which he said that the national media play a crucial role in opposing the anti-Syrian conspiracy. He noted that a fierce information war was launched against the country. A number of corrupt journalists from Al-Jazeera-type TV channels have become puppets in the hands of aggressors. They spread misinformation about Syria, just as they had previously lied about events in Libya.

(It should be recalled here - the legitimate Libyan leader Muammar Al-Gaddafi, who was subsequently brutally murdered by NATO mercenaries, said in an interview that the resolution on the introduction of a no-fly zone over Libya is the only one of its kind, based on false television reporting. Thus, the price Lies may be too high - a bombed out country and hundreds of thousands of dead).

The head of the Syrian Union of Journalists in his statement recalled that many Syrian journalists were killed, injured, abducted. Remaining in the ranks - often exposed to threats. But despite this, they continue their noble work, believing in the justice of the cause, which they defend with their word. “This is no less important than military force, and sometimes even more important,” he noted.

On this day, I really would like to remember all the fallen journalists. Al-Ihbariya’s correspondent Yaru Abbas killed 27 on May 2013 ... Three journalists of the same TV channel shot by the terrorists 30 on June 2012 of the same TV channel killed in September 2012 of the Iranian militants in Damasc. SANA Ali Abbas, a journalist of the agency killed in his home in August 2012. And many, many others who sought to tell the truth. The truth that the West and its puppets do not like so much.

The trial of the children in Aleppo
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  1. NKVD
    NKVD 17 August 2013 07: 46
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    Such freaks must be caught and quartered after a public rape
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 17 August 2013 07: 55
      92
      The same should be done with human rights defenders protecting them.
      1. Denis
        Denis 17 August 2013 08: 10
        60
        Quote: ivshubarin
        The same should be done with human rights defenders protecting them.

        What will the bastards from the UN say to this, they will again mumble, they say they need to figure it out ....
        1. Grenader
          Grenader 17 August 2013 08: 47
          55
          Damn ghouls. All opposition in Syria is one big bandit formation. They are so smeared with blood that they just need to be destroyed on the spot without trial or investigation, all the opposition to the last person. Someone who sponsors the "rebels" and supplies them with weapons even more ghoul than themselves. Vile, bloody Islamist executioners rush to power with the support of executioners under the stars-striped flag. Damn both.
          1. Sandov
            Sandov 17 August 2013 11: 14
            30
            It is necessary to call a spade a spade. This is not the opposition, these are bandits and nonhumans. And those who support them deserve even more severe punishment than these idiots.
            1. Sirocco
              Sirocco 17 August 2013 11: 33
              16
              Quote: Sandov
              It is necessary to call a spade a spade. This is not the opposition, these are bandits and nonhumans.

              I completely agree with you. Who supports and with whose filing does this lawlessness take place in the east? EU, England and USA. I will disappoint you, there will be no punishment for these countries. The next Nobel can be given, but no one will dare to condemn and punish them. Alas.
              1. malik
                malik 17 August 2013 18: 46
                +4
                there will be a punishment for them, there will be a time for everything, so simply nothing
                passes, the evil that you did to you will not return invariably, and for them to kill children will return many times worse than they did. Probably they’ve already forgotten the twin towers
                1. sincman
                  sincman 18 August 2013 03: 06
                  13
                  Quote: Malik
                  . They probably already forgot the twin towers

                  The towers were filled up with the same creatures that are now sponsoring these scumbags. And it was precisely this event that finally untied their hands for the destruction of countries with impunity and for one made it possible to strengthen the system of surveillance of their and other citizens. It is obvious. Do not assume that this operation occurred without the knowledge of the CIA and the politicians of the mattresses.
            2. Fin
              Fin 17 August 2013 15: 21
              13
              Soon the remnants of the unfinished animals will return to their places of residence. If there were more of them in Brussels, London, Berlin ... well, where they are considered rebels.
        2. ivshubarin
          ivshubarin 17 August 2013 09: 01
          +8
          ki from the UN have shown their identity more than once since Vietnam. An organization controlled by the USSR, it was necessary to create its own as a counterweight, Russia could not
          1. Goldmitro
            Goldmitro 17 August 2013 23: 20
            +4
            ivshubarin
            <<< Ki from the UN have shown their guise more than once since the days of Vietnam. >>>
            And their secretary general is the lawyer of the western gaming democracy who does not see any human rights violations by the Syrian opposition and his surname is either Ban Ki-Vr ... n, or Ban Ki-Sr .... n!
        3. solomon
          solomon 17 August 2013 11: 05
          +4
          They will be thrown a bone, and they will be silent, wagging their tail !!!
        4. Mujahiddin777
          Mujahiddin777 17 August 2013 11: 19
          11
          They will send experts there and, as always, will not find anything ...
          1. Simon
            Simon 17 August 2013 17: 32
            +5
            And what they can see there, all of their eyes are smeared with greenery.
        5. Skreb79
          Skreb79 17 August 2013 14: 35
          +2
          You should not just pay attention to them, they have already proved themselves not from a very good side.
        6. Simon
          Simon 17 August 2013 17: 28
          +5
          And what can they say, because they are all bought by amers. And whoever pays and orders the music. It is necessary to disperse this UN, it actually does not work. am
          1. soldier's grandson
            soldier's grandson 17 August 2013 17: 33
            +1
            The UN is concerned, after all, someone should do it
            1. Simon
              Simon 18 August 2013 08: 14
              +6
              And the Syrian children from this concern ..... Everything is shown in these frames! The indignation is not enough. angry
      2. fennekRUS
        fennekRUS 17 August 2013 11: 35
        +6
        ... and with those who pay for this whole "holiday of democracy"
      3. RUSSIA 2013
        RUSSIA 2013 17 August 2013 20: 46
        +6
        Critters like I HATE them, I don’t just have words, they just need to be torn alive and not fainted at the same time so that they lose consciousness. After this video I want to say obscenities. pi ... s.
      4. Airman
        Airman 17 August 2013 23: 16
        +6
        Quote: ivshubarin
        The same should be done with human rights defenders protecting them.

        Do you propose bombing the USA?
        1. ivshubarin
          ivshubarin 18 August 2013 12: 31
          +5
          I do not offer, but I will not against
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 18 August 2013 17: 52
            +5
            Quote: ivshubarin
            I do not offer, but I will not against

            if the people of the United States, fooled by the media, belonging to the organizers of this whole canoe, in which children are already shot in cold blood, will stand up too strongly in their defense - there is nowhere to go, they are also severely beaten for being fooled! What to offer? This is urgently required by common sense - as long as there are States, there will be such a canoe, and this canoe will smoothly move to our territories, gentlemen Russians. Over time, instead of Syrian kids in these frames, shouting "Alala, I'm going to the bar!" our children will be shot. So choose either:
            Quote: Povshnik
            bomb the USA?

            or the fosterlings of the United States will shoot down niches of children like this after a dozen years, no more.
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 17 August 2013 07: 56
      +7
      Quote: NKVD
      Such freaks must be caught and quartered after a public rape

      (-),more sophisticated necessary, not "perverted" ...
    3. Civil
      Civil 17 August 2013 09: 08
      -15 qualifying.
      Quote: NKVD
      Such freaks must be caught and quartered after a public rape

      Then you will rise to the same level as these animals! Judgment, snot remorse and oblivion.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 17 August 2013 09: 53
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        Such crimes cannot be forgiven. This is generally beyond comprehension. Inhumans, you cannot name it otherwise. We need to stop this massacre. The countries that sponsor and support these creatures - the USA, Israel, England, France, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and other "territories" are on the same level with them and bear the same responsibility as these.
        1. soldier's grandson
          soldier's grandson 17 August 2013 17: 31
          +7
          but didn’t these countries sponsor in civil year in 1918, now this is repeated elsewhere
          1. Arabist
            Arabist 17 August 2013 17: 37
            +4
            Yemen and Saudi Arabia did not sponsor a civil war with us. Now their main sponsors are Turkey and the oil monarchies of the Persian Gulf, especially Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
            1. soldier's grandson
              soldier's grandson 17 August 2013 17: 40
              +1
              I pro western countries said
      2. ivshubarin
        ivshubarin 17 August 2013 10: 22
        +6
        They only understand that language
      3. Taidrem
        Taidrem 17 August 2013 10: 42
        -1
        Alas, I must admit that this is a vicious circle, fighting evil you yourself can turn into this evil.
        1. Raptor75
          Raptor75 17 August 2013 11: 06
          +5
          This is not the case. There, the price of fighting evil is one's own existence.
        2. alexander 2
          alexander 2 19 August 2013 01: 40
          0
          I didn’t say: “Good must be with fists”!
      4. Raptor75
        Raptor75 17 August 2013 11: 04
        10
        This applies to ordinary people. What they are doing has generally gone beyond understanding. THIS IS NOT PEOPLE !!!! They must be gang-banged like rats, cockroaches, lice, etc. without regret.
        Who else believes that Islam is a peaceful religion?
        1. alone
          alone 17 August 2013 11: 13
          -1
          You want to say that a billion-plus Muslims are all murderers, rapists and terrorists?
          1. vladsolo56
            vladsolo56 17 August 2013 11: 42
            20
            Not all, but it is they who feed those same terrorists, because terrorists do not come from the air. When there is fertilized soil, then a similar poisonous weed grows. If Muslims did not act as a united front against everyone else, there would not be such crimes. Look what is happening in the whole Islamic world, practically there is not a single country where there would not be religious crimes.
            1. alone
              alone 17 August 2013 11: 55
              +7
              Have you seen even one normal Muslim who would defile the Bible? It never can be. But the Amer’s pastor burns the Koran and nobody punishes him for this. The pastor acts directly with bearded men in one direction. Such pastors must be destroyed on a par with these bearded men who sow religious hatred
              1. vladsolo56
                vladsolo56 17 August 2013 12: 00
                16
                can you be reminded of what Muslims do in Kosovo? how they destroy Orthodox churches and kill Orthodox ministers, and this is all done by individuals, only to the cheers of the crowd, I saw this in a documentary chronicle that was shot by the Albanians themselves. Maybe you are not aware that Muslims destroyed the Buddha statue in Afghanistan? Yes, you never know enough examples. Of course, they can be called anything you like, the Taliban, Wahhabis, and others, but their support in the world is very extensive, and not only among emirs and other sponsors.
                1. alone
                  alone 17 August 2013 12: 13
                  18
                  I can say the same thing about how our mosques were destroyed in Armenia, in Karabakh. you understand one thing, people who destroy temples and mosques of nonhumans, they have nothing to do with religion.
                  1. old man54
                    old man54 18 August 2013 20: 45
                    +3
                    Quote: lonely
                    they have nothing to do with religion. We don’t accept Wahhabis, Taliban, and any shusher as Muslims.these people serve the devil

                    your golden words !!! Of course you "+" everywhere before on this topic! I expected such profundity from you, sorry, flattered and very pleasantly pleased.
                    1. alone
                      alone 18 August 2013 22: 19
                      +1
                      Thank you for your understanding !!
                      1. eplewke
                        eplewke 19 August 2013 08: 55
                        +1
                        Plusanul! I don’t worry, there are normal Muslims, my neighbor is a kind-hearted person, for example. and such a billion examples. And these ghouls from the Taliban, al-Qaeda, Jehbat al-Nusra, these bastards are not Muslims. These are the creatures of Satan!
                2. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 17 August 2013 12: 32
                  -2
                  Quote: vladsolo56
                  can you be reminded of what Muslims do in Kosovo? how they destroy Orthodox churches and kill Orthodox ministers, but this is all done by individuals, only to the cheers of the crowd

                  So Christians, Armenians and Buddhists in Myanmar do the same with Muslims and their temples !!
                  It’s just not beneficial for you to talk about it!
                  Here is a mosque in occupied by Armenians Christians in Agdam!
                  1. vladsolo56
                    vladsolo56 17 August 2013 12: 41
                    13
                    Did I write that mosques are not humiliating? where did you read that? I answered only that Muslims allegedly do not desecrate the shrines of other religions. So all believers of each other are standing. I am an atheist, and I’m sure that any religion is an elementary way of controlling the masses, nothing more. Behind any religious extremism there are always unprincipled and greedy people.
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 17 August 2013 13: 13
                      +9
                      Quote: vladsolo56
                      I answered only that Muslims supposedly do not desecrate the shrines of other religions

                      You understand, I’ll answer that those who did what I showed to the mosque are not Christians and that’s true !!
                      But why are you surprised if I say that they are not Muslims!
                      The Koran says that Christians are closest to Muslims!
                      It was the Christians who saved the first Muslims and gave them refuge from idolaters !!
                      How can a real Muslim feel bad about a Christian! ????
                  2. Anat1974
                    Anat1974 17 August 2013 23: 09
                    +5
                    Well shoot pigs in Myanmar, what's the problem? An article about killing children and doing it in public, cynically, absolutely violating human morality and having no compassion. I have never seen Christians cut the throats of Muslims and purposefully kill their priests (Well, maybe in Africa somewhere, which I don't know about). Much and often write about the atrocities of Armenians, Serbs, Russians, etc. but something on the Y-tube of these atrocities is not thick. But Muslims are permanent "stars". And moreover Yarbay, I am absolutely not a nationalist. But I just do not like it when we are told tales about white Muslim bulls, which these Christians, Buddhists, Hindus are directly squeezing from the world. And in Europe they burn the cars of Muslims, and in India they blow up the poor fellows and in Russia at Dubrovka and in Beslan, and everywhere.
                    In order to dig up information about the oppression of Muslims, you need to sit for more than one day in a search engine on the Internet, but what Muslims do, turn on the telly, radio, open any news site - EVERYWHERE.
                    Have something to argue?
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 18 August 2013 14: 02
                      +2
                      Quote: Anat1974
                      In order to dig up information about the oppression of Muslims, you need to sit for more than one day in a search engine on the Internet, but what Muslims do, turn on the telly, radio, open any news site - EVERYWHERE.

                      So am I about that !!
                      Prefer to keep silent about atrocities against Muslims !!
                      They quickly spread, and also push, with the help of Wahhabis, the crimes of illiterate people!
                      Most of all, Wahhabi preaching discs are now distributed!
                      And they are published in Western countries and in Russia in millions of copies!
                      Is everyone wearing a cross really a Christian ??
                    2. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 18 August 2013 14: 06
                      +9
                      Quote: Anat1974
                      I have never seen Christians slaughter Muslims and purposefully kill their clergy.

                      Firman Muhammad (Akhtiname) - a security certificate given by the Prophet Muhammad to the monastery of St. Catherine in the 620s. Firman guarantees the monastery immunity, freedom of worship in it, and also provides Sinai monks with tax benefits. The original document, written in Arabic and sealed with the handprint of the Prophet, has been kept since 1517 in the Sultan's treasury in Istanbul - approx. ed.

                      “In the name of Allah, the merciful and merciful. This message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah to all Christians, near and far, may it be a guarantee of our unity with them. In this way, I swear an oath to myself, my servants, followers and co-religionists, that from now on I will take Christians by my arm as my countrymen, and undertake in the name of Allah to be their defense against any opponent.

                      May no one dare force them to obey, and dare not remove their bishops and expel the monks from their monasteries. May no one dare destroy their prayers at home, harm them and rob them in the name of benefits for Muslims. Let the hearer be declared an oath-perpetrator in the face of Allah and a rebel before his prophet. May Christians be my allies, I swear vowingly to be their protection.

                      May no one force them to leave their homes, may they not force them to battle against their will - let Muslims protect them by force of arms. May no one marry a Christian against her will, and prevent her from attending her church. May there be respect for their churches, and no one will hinder their maintenance and cast doubt on the sanctity of their vows. The faithful shall not break this oath before the Day of Judgment. ”


                      The first and last sentence in the charter are crucial. They make the promise eternal and universal. Muhammad states that Muslims with Christians largely refuse in the future to confine themselves only to the promise given by the monastery of St. Catherine. By ordering Muslims to obey this until Judgment Day, the charter undermines any attempt to revoke privileges in the future. These rights are inalienable. Muhammad stated that all Christians are his allies and equated their cruel treatment with violations of the covenants of Allah.

                      For a Muslim, the words of the prophet are LAW!

                      How then can a Muslim kill Christians !!?
                      Satanists do it under the guise of Islam!
                    3. old man54
                      old man54 18 August 2013 20: 57
                      +3
                      Quote: Anat1974
                      and what Muslims do, turn on the telly, radio, open any news site, EVERYWHERE. Anything to argue with?

                      If you were more thoughtful, you would understand that the entire information machine of the world is controlled from the West, one way or another. I by no means whitewash those who call themselves Muslims rampage, kill and do black things. But Apparently the kotmu really needs that the whole world began to fear them, Muslims, or rather these non-humans in masks and with heart-rending screams, and therefore the news teems, one way or another, their vile tricks. It is necessary to arouse fear in them all over the world, to confront Christians and Europe with the entire Muslim world already, to the east, and then to rake in the heat with our hands. Is it not clear? And at this stage, it is very important for the Zionists and Amers (as the Zionists' chain dog) that they do not pay attention to them, so new different "currents of Islam" are being created artificially, money is pouring in for their development ... And who needs it and why? ? (the basis of detective art - look for someone who benefits!). And you are writing out here ... negative
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 18 August 2013 21: 34
                        +2
                        Quote: old man54
                        If you were more thoughtful, you would realize that the entire information machine of the world is controlled from the west, one way or another. I do not whitewash those who, calling themselves Muslims, atrocities, kills and creates black.

                        Here we have completely the same opinions !!
                        I’m even sure that there is a group of people who manage this process !!
                        And not only in the media, but also in the actions and plans of the Wahhabis!
                        Look at these * great * * jihadists * and guardians for Muslims, in a very mysterious way, supported a military coup in Egypt, and there they overthrew * Muslim brothers * Sunnis !! Why such selectivity! ????
                        In Syria, the tyrant and despot Assad, and there * jihad *, and in Egypt all are correctly killed by military Muslims, have openly usurped power and not just one shouting Allahu Akbar and calling for * jihad * Wahhabi !!
                3. Revolver
                  Revolver 17 August 2013 20: 58
                  +6
                  Here is what the Qur'an prescribes to faithful Muslims:

                  2 (191). And kill them [the infidels], wherever you meet them, expel them from the places from which they expelled you, because for them delusion is worse than death at your fingertips.

                  2 (193). Fight with them until disbelief disappears and faith in Allah is established. If they cease [to be unfaithful], then there should be no hostility, except to the wicked.

                  3 (28). Believers may not be friends with unbelievers besides believers. And if someone is friends with unbelievers, then he will not deserve any reward from Allah, except when you are in danger from them.
                  (i.e. if they are stronger than you and can pose a threat to you, then be friends. And if you are stronger, then exterminate.)

                  At the same time, not only those who do not believe in Islam are considered unfaithful, but even Muslims who dare to believe in Islam are not so much as the Islamic sect that dominates in this place considers it right.
                  1. alone
                    alone 17 August 2013 21: 51
                    +5
                    Quote: Nagan
                    At the same time, not only those who do not believe in Islam are considered unfaithful, but even Muslims who dare to believe in Islam are not so much as the Islamic sect that dominates in this place considers it right.


                    that is exactly how the Wahhabis interpret this sura.
                  2. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 18 August 2013 08: 38
                    +4
                    Quote: Nagan
                    Here is what the Qur'an prescribes to faithful Muslims:

                    this understanding of Wahhabi))))
                    Apparently prompted by a Jew)))))))
                    with such an * understanding * of Islam, you will not eat far from Wahhabis!))
                    1. Revolver
                      Revolver 18 August 2013 23: 38
                      0
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      this understanding of Wahhabi))))
                      Apparently prompted by a Jew)))))))

                      And you do not translate the arrows to the Jews, or in your concept, "if there is no water in the tap, then you have drunk> | <ides"? You'd better tell me, is there such a text in the Koran or not? If not, then I will apologize, even though the translation of the Qur'an from where I copied it is not mine. Well, if there is, then be so kind as to explain how these lines are combined with the peacefulness and moderation of Islam.
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 19 August 2013 01: 26
                        0
                        Quote: Nagan
                        You better tell me if there is such a text in the Quran or not?

                        A hundred times answered))))))))))))
                        Alas, I don’t have the strength to look again in my archive and put up a personal answer for you!
                        The Koran was not sent down to the prophet in more than one day!
                        Some suras were sent to a certain event, some were of constant importance! There are Meccan suras, there are Medina!
                        You now have no reason to explain everything, you will not understand, because you do not know the elementary about Islam and its history!
                        You may not know, but before these suras were sent out, idolaters in every possible way persecuted the first Muslims and killed!
                        And with the sending of this surah gave direct instruction and permission to fight and defend! Moreover, they are indicated * are fighting while they are fighting with you **, until they ask for peace !!
                        Quote: Nagan
                        But you don’t translate arrows on Jews,

                        So these are illiterate Wahhabis, what you said are taught by illiterate * Jews * about like you))
                  3. old man54
                    old man54 18 August 2013 21: 10
                    +1
                    Quote: Nagan
                    At the same time, not only those who do not believe in Islam are considered unfaithful, but even Muslims who dare to believe in Islam are not so much as the Islamic sect that dominates in this place considers it right.

                    about sects, their power and diversity, it would be better for you, my dear, to sort out first in that country, under the flag of which you are here! This is where Bacchanalia and Stanaism really flourish, moreover explicit and undisguised, even cooler than Wahhabism.
                    And about "wrong" - this concept has been thoroughly blurred and perverted in modern Islam in general, to say nothing of its perversion, in the form of Wahbiism. hi
              2. atalef
                atalef 17 August 2013 12: 06
                12
                Quote: lonely
                . But the Amer pastor burns the Koran and no one punishes him for this.

                In general, who said that he is normal? And the persecution of Christians in the state. level in countries such as Pakistan, Afghanistan, the Gulf countries - the same exists. Therefore, I would not raise the question of the normality of one or the other.
                Religion should be in the soul, and most importantly, should not interfere with believing others in what they believe. Extremism and extreme movements are present in all religions, this must be fought, because often the abnormality of some is perceived by their associates as the highest manifestation of spirituality.

                Quote: lonely
                such pastors must be destroyed on an equal footing with these bearded men who sow religious hatred

                no need to destroy anyone. because violence will only give rise to violence and going underground. And I saw a sufficient number of Muslims with beards, while they are wonderful people and do not carry any threat, like clean-shaven killers and scumbags. In general, religion must be separated from the state - God is godly. to Caesar - Caesarean. Start with at least that.
                1. alone
                  alone 17 August 2013 12: 15
                  +8
                  for me, this pastor and Wahhabis are the same. They serve the devil.
                2. igor67
                  igor67 17 August 2013 13: 18
                  +5
                  Quote: atalef
                  And I saw a sufficient number of Muslims with beards, while they are wonderful people and do not carry any threat, like clean-shaven killers and scumbags. In general, religion must be separated from the state - God is godly. to Caesar - Caesarean. Start with at least that.

                  hi Sanya just leaving the parking lot yesterday the bearded ones helped me. five bald people with such black beards pulled up on the bus and I don’t know what to call not a dressing gown but a long shirt. Having closed my vision, they went out onto the roadway and stopped the moving car and I calmly drove out wished me a nice day.
                3. old man54
                  old man54 18 August 2013 21: 19
                  -1
                  Quote: atalef
                  In general, religion must be separated from the state -

                  religion and Faith, which is in the Soul, are far from one result! You are here fornication!
                4. Sandov
                  Sandov 19 August 2013 13: 31
                  +1
                  Here are the wise words I hear from a Jew. I respect for that. +++
              3. Revolver
                Revolver 17 August 2013 21: 46
                -2
                Quote: lonely
                Have you seen at least one normal Muslim who would defile the Bible? It can never be

                But the American flag is burned many times a day. And the Americans, as I noticed, have an attitude to the flag about the same reverent as in Russia for Victory Day. Perhaps the burning of the Bible would be offended less.
                Quote: lonely
                But the Amer pastor burns the Koran and no one punishes him for this
                If you do not know, then in America there is such a First Amendment to the Constitution, which gives the right to express an opinion, including in such a somewhat extreme way. Someone from the authorities, in my opinion personally Obama, spoke out on the subject like that he categorically does not approve, but can’t do anything - freedom of speech is above all.
                1. alone
                  alone 17 August 2013 22: 12
                  +7
                  do you compare the American flag with the Bible? the flag of America means something to the Americans. and the Bible is God's word conveyed by the Prophet JESUS ​​(may the ALMIGHTY be pleased with him). Do you understand the difference?
          2. ankh-andrej
            ankh-andrej 17 August 2013 12: 30
            0
            You want to say that a billion-plus Muslims are all murderers, rapists and terrorists?

            Not every Muslim is a terrorist, but every terrorist is a Muslim.
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 17 August 2013 13: 22
              10
              Quote: ankh-andrej
              but every terrorist is a Muslim.


              maybe we’ll go through history .... maybe remember the people of the Volunteers .. suicide bombers in Russia at the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century ... maybe remember the bombings of Armenian terrorists in Moscow at the end of the 70s ..... maybe a recent Norwegian, who shot 77 people for each shot who received only 3 months in prison ..... as Frunzik said, think first, and then say ............ hi
              1. igor67
                igor67 17 August 2013 13: 27
                +2
                Quote: smersh70
                Quote: ankh-andrej
                but every terrorist is a Muslim.


                maybe we’ll go through history .... maybe remember the people of the Volunteers .. suicide bombers in Russia at the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century ... maybe remember the bombings of Armenian terrorists in Moscow at the end of the 70s ..... maybe a recent Norwegian, who shot 77 people for each shot who received only 3 months in prison ..... as Frunzik said, think first, and then say ............ hi

                Yes, by the way, I recently read about the Armenian group that committed the attack in 76 in Moscow
              2. ankh-andrej
                ankh-andrej 17 August 2013 13: 56
                -2
                We are not talking about the 19th century Norodovites. Now is the 21st century. And Breivik has nothing to cite as an example in comparison with what the "faithful" are doing in the world. Can we count the victims now?
                1. smersh70
                  smersh70 18 August 2013 13: 36
                  +5
                  Quote: ankh-andrej
                  And Breivik has nothing to cite as an example in


                  this is why not give him an example, is he red and fluffy or does he prick his eyes laughing
                  but seriously, not Muslims carry out terrorist acts, but the so-called current called Wahhabism ... they have chosen this method of struggle, and we must fight them ....... hi
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              4. Anat1974
                Anat1974 17 August 2013 23: 24
                +1
                Stunned. You do not see the difference? If you do not take the 19th century, then this is the attacks of individual d. Beals. And the terrorist acts of Muslim fanatics are systematic, numerous and targeted actions to destroy people for religious reasons.
                ... said Frunzik, think first, and then say ............
                1. smersh70
                  smersh70 18 August 2013 13: 32
                  +4
                  Quote: Anat1974
                  If you do not take the 19th century, then this is the attacks of individual d.


                  My friend, you do not know much about the history of the food movement .... hi and the history of the Socialist Revolutionary Party ..... there were 1917 million people in Russia by 2, when, as Bolsheviks, when they seized power, there were only 240 thousand people ....
                  Well, if 2 million are isolated cases, I have no words .........
            2. Essenger
              Essenger 17 August 2013 13: 54
              +6
              Quote: ankh-andrej
              Not every Muslim is a terrorist, but every terrorist is a Muslim.

              Who are IRA and ETA? When Christian groups wage an armed struggle, they wage a national liberation struggle, while Muslim groups are terrorists and separatists.
              1. Anat1974
                Anat1974 17 August 2013 23: 26
                -4
                Ha ha ha What did you mean? Maybe give examples (well, except for Chechnya if you had it in mind).
              2. aksakal
                aksakal 18 August 2013 18: 44
                +1
                Quote: Essenger
                When Christian groups wage an armed struggle, they wage a national liberation struggle, when Muslim groups are terrorists and separatists.

                Ordinary EUROPOCENTRISM, for several centuries we have been living in such conditions, but you still won’t get used to it
            3. atalef
              atalef 17 August 2013 16: 41
              +6
              Quote: ankh-andrej
              Not every Muslim is a terrorist, but every terrorist is a Muslim.

              stupid populism. YES A LITTLE MUSTER TERRORISTS, BUT THERE IS SUCH MOVEMENT AS TAMIL RELEASES TAMILA, Basques, Shining path of Cindero Luminoso, Revolutionary movement Tupac Omaru. etc. etc. In all religions and in most countries. Just Muslim terrorism is now more on the lips, but others are missing. This is a disease of the whole world and we must fight it. I would not indiscriminately blame all Muslims (at least Shiites, at least Sunnis), among them there are a huge, even overwhelming number of absolutely normal people (and this I say despite the fact that I live in Israel and it seems like I should hate them a priori), but hate amaze precisely those people who do not understand religion or history --- A dark mass living on rumors and prejudices. I repeat once again, the majority of Muslims want to raise their children just as calmly, live (and rejoice at her) and want a peaceful future, but those who are scamming them (using the delights of the Internet, modern communications and the media) must be destroyed --- again this applies to any religion.
          3. golikov
            golikov 17 August 2013 14: 44
            +4
            We want to say - "At the heart of Islam is the destruction of people who believe in another God. We do not see a video on the Internet in which Christians shouting" Jesus is the son of God "(God is great) kill people."
            1. alone
              alone 17 August 2013 16: 45
              +7
              Do you believe in another God? God (Allah) is one, we all believe in one God.
              1. golikov
                golikov 19 August 2013 13: 46
                0
                Apparently in another.
                Because we come to our God through Jesus, obeying the commandments.
                And you come to your Allah directly, through the "holy war".
            2. atalef
              atalef 17 August 2013 17: 11
              +4
              Quote: golikov
              We want to say - "The basis of Islam is the destruction of people who believe in another God.

              You are not right . God is one, therefore, a Christian and a Jew can pray without problems in a mosque. \


              Quote: golikov
              We do not see a video on the internet in which Christians shouting "Jesus the son of God" (God is great) kill people "

              Just when it happened (and on a much larger scale - the Internet did not exist yet)
              Any religion goes the way of a militant period. The first were the Jews. then the christians. Muslims are now the youngest monotheistic religion. It’s just that the aforementioned religious groups have long gone through a period of tribal relations 0 now in the Muslim world it is the revolution of relations and the transition to another level.
              1. consul
                consul 17 August 2013 18: 04
                0
                Quote: atalef
                You're not right . God is one, therefore, a Christian and a Jew can pray without problems in a mosque.

                "To this (the Jews) they said to Him, We were not born of fornication; we have one Father, God.
                42 Jesus said to them: if God were your Father, you would love me, because I came from God and came; for I have not come of Myself, but He sent Me.
                43 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you cannot hear My words.
                44 Your father is the devil; and you want to fulfill the lusts of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning and did not stand in the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks his own, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
                45But since I speak the truth, you do not believe Me. "(Gospel of John)
                "I am the way and the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (Gospel of John).
                Therefore, we Christians do not pray with Jews and Muslims, especially in their houses of worship, as well as with sectarians, although they call themselves Christians, who in fact distorted Christianity.
              2. Revolver
                Revolver 17 August 2013 21: 54
                -1
                Quote: atalef
                You're not right . God is one, therefore, a Christian and a Jew can pray without problems in a mosque.

                Well, try to go to pray in Al Aksu. I think that you won’t get out alive - the peace-loving Muslims will tear to shreds.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 18 August 2013 00: 07
                  +3
                  Quote: Nagan
                  Well, try to go to pray in Al Aksu. I think that you won’t get out alive - the peace-loving Muslims will tear to shreds.

                  Striking ignorance. Jews a priori can’t climb the temple mountain (where El Akza is located), because only after the construction of the 3rd temple. but in any other mosque a Jew can pray
                  1. Revolver
                    Revolver 18 August 2013 19: 52
                    -1
                    Quote: atalef
                    Jews a priori can’t climb the temple mountain (where El Akza is located), because only after the construction of the 3rd temple

                    But Ariel Sharon, then not yet a prime minister, rose in 2000, if I am not mistaken, the year. I do not blame him for this, but on the contrary, like him, I consider it abnormal that in the capital of the Jewish state there may be places where Jews are not allowed to enter.
                    And again, in the press [in particular Mignews], not so often, but there are reports that the police (Israeli, mind you) again arrested Jews who were trying to pray on the Temple Mount. Somehow it does not fit with your statement. Or directly from that joke "where there are 2 Jews, there are 3 opinions"?
                    No offense, just curious.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 18 August 2013 20: 01
                      0
                      Quote: Nagan
                      But Ariel Sharon, then not yet a prime minister, rose in 2000, if I am not mistaken, the year. I do not blame him for this, but on the contrary, like him, I consider it abnormal that in the capital of the Jewish state there may be places where Jews are not allowed to enter.

                      Well, everyone loves PR. According to halacha (religious standards), before the construction of the 3rd temple, Jews should neither climb the temple mountain, let alone pray there.

                      Quote: Nagan
                      Or directly from that joke "where there are 2 Jews, there are 3 opinions"?

                      So it is, there are religious fanatics trying by their actions to provoke a conflict, realizing that they will not allow this from the authorities, but from a religious point of view it makes no sense. I repeat once again - pure PR and nothing else.
                      But the question was not about, but about whether a Jew can pray in a mosque - so there is no problem howling in Islam (like Christians if they want to pray in a mosque) because the main thing is that both Jews and Christians believe in one God.
                      1. old man54
                        old man54 18 August 2013 21: 38
                        -2
                        Quote: atalef
                        the main thing is that both Jews and Christians believe in one God.

                        Do you yourself understand what you are writing, or have you already taken the Air Force for the day? laughing angry
                        Christianity - A doctrine named in honor of the prophet Jesus Christ of Nazareth, crucified by the Romans at the true request of the Jewish nobility and clergy about 2000 years ago. The Jews consider Christ the fiend of Hell, as his mother Mary, believe that he always burns in Hell with her and they are fried in a skillet. This is the similarity of these religious teachings, right?
                        Aleph, you are either a troll or your synagogue you only saw as a building, but a torus only in the internet ?! bully
                      2. atalef
                        atalef 18 August 2013 21: 57
                        +2
                        Quote: old man54
                        Do you yourself understand what you are writing, or have you already taken the Air Force for the day?

                        I have to do with VKS, the Air Force is not mine. And what I write I understand is much better than you. Understand monotheistic religions. Then you will understand. that God is one and one for all three religions. Christians simply have God and a son (Jesus). among Muslims, God and Muhammad are a prophet, among Jews, God (without intermediaries in the person of the prophets) And God is one for all.
                        Therefore, for Muslims, neither Jews nor Christians are infidels.

                        Quote: old man54
                        . Jews consider Christ a fiend of Hell

                        Lost sheep (more precisely.) I.e. mistaken in his path (despite the fact that he was one of the best students of the Torah) and its course in its beginning practically did not differ from the mainstream of Judaism. It is understandable since he and all the apostles, like mother and father of Jesus, were Jews. request , at the same time, Jesus (Isa) is one of the prophets for Muslims, as is Moshe (Musa).

                        Quote: old man54
                        Aleph, you or the troll, or your synagogue you only saw as a building, and the torus only in the internet?

                        Learn the mat part. Graduate. laughing
                      3. old man54
                        old man54 18 August 2013 23: 03
                        -1
                        Quote: atalef
                        Learn the mat part. Graduate.

                        Well, the verbiage (pharisaism) Jews have always masterfully mastered, it is respected in blood. I threw a movie below Yarbay, about Israel, take a look, maybe you will learn a lot of new things about your people and about the Wye faith. laughing
            3. de_monSher
              de_monSher 18 August 2013 05: 18
              0
              Revolver

              By the way, Mr. Nagan, are you like a US patriot? Here you also conduct anti-Islamic propaganda, while shining with your own ignorance. But at the same time, note - normal Muslims = Faith most often do not choose, they are born in it, but I just am silent about the nation = absolutely unanimously condemn these frostbitten monkeys who yell all sorts of pseudo-religious words behind the scenes of the video above. But your country, or rather, the politician for whom you most likely voted - this scumbag McCain, and this moron for whom you did not vote - Obama unanimously and strongly supports these same monkeys. And you still have the audacity to promote something here about Muslims? *)))
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 18 August 2013 20: 06
                0
                Quote: de_monSher
                This nonsense you didn’t vote for - Obama

                He is not a fool (unfortunately), but a politician who is not shy about the means to achieve his goals (which I, as a rule, do not approve of). Bush was a half-wit (for which I, by the way, voted both times), but he was at least a decent person, said what he thought, and did what he said. But Obama says one thing, does another, and most likely thinks something third.

                Question: is there a smart and honest politician?
                Answer: does not happen. If a politician is smart, then he is dishonest. And if he is honest, then he is stupid.
          4. Anat1974
            Anat1974 17 August 2013 23: 34
            0
            Of course there is such a rather popular hypothesis, but personally, I doubt it. Something the period dragged on (at least). And secondly, if you do not give in surplus, then the militant period of tribal relations can last forever.
          5. old man54
            old man54 18 August 2013 21: 30
            -2
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: golikov
            We want to say - "The basis of Islam is the destruction of people who believe in another God.

            You are not right . God is one, therefore, a Christian and a Jew can pray without problems in a mosque. \

            You are lying, or not a Jew at all, but pretend! The Jews chose another GOD for themselves, and they believe and say that it is only their GOD, it was more than 4000 years ago. Or type did not know? Exactly these, at one time, the Prophet Muhammad called WRONG and with those he called to fight, raising the green Banner!
          6. Sandov
            Sandov 19 August 2013 13: 38
            +2
            In Russia, both Orthodox and Mohammedans prayed in churches. Image of old crosses look, crescent moon with a cross.
      5. Simon
        Simon 17 August 2013 17: 40
        +1
        We are talking about killer fighters, and not about normal people who are fighting with these scum. In the Syrian government troops, both Muslims and Christians are fighting with these bandits.
      6. Raptor75
        Raptor75 17 August 2013 20: 21
        +2
        No, of course. Not so long ago, I was sure that Islam is a completely peaceful religion. What I see lately has greatly shaken my confidence in this.
      7. old man54
        old man54 18 August 2013 20: 42
        0
        Quote: lonely
        You want to say that a billion-plus Muslims are all murderers, rapists and terrorists?

        I do not believe that, I know that! No more warlike than Christianity, but much cleaner in terms of Faith and sources. But it’s just those like in vmdeo and others who sold themselves to the Zionists or simply do not understand what they are cynically using, they are no longer Muslims! Yes, they consider themselves to be such, but in reality they are not close Muslims, just like the vast majority of Catholics (including parishioners) and non-Christians, as well as Orthodox, who do not understand anything in the Faith as such!
        That would be the one who fouls the name of God (no matter what you call him Allah), who shouts "Allah akbar" when sanctifying his vile deeds, those normal Muslims need to cut off their tongues, really!
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 18 August 2013 21: 26
          +4
          Quote: old man54
          I do not believe that, I know that! No more warlike than Christianity, but much cleaner in terms of Faith and sources. But it’s just those like in vmdeo and others who sold themselves to the Zionists or simply do not understand what they are cynically using, they are no longer Muslims!

          I basically agree with you, only there are small corrections!
          The fact is that many do not understand but there is widespread advertising of the Wahhabi sect!
          On TV they show them as guardians of Islam, courageous, courageous, but do not show their knowledge, their ignorance!
          Young people everywhere are usually very active, and when they see the tempting idea, join!
          I repeat dozens of prominent scientists exposed the illiteracy of these sectarians, but except on YouTube you will not find their speeches and find them even there with difficulty !! Muslim? Many Wahhabis in general are formed exclusively with the help of dubious video discs that transmit to each other and after that they are ready incorrigible zombies (it is quite possible there are some technologies).!
          1. old man54
            old man54 18 August 2013 22: 20
            +1
            Quote: Yarbay
            Many Wahhabis in general are formed exclusively with the help of dubious video discs that transmit to each other and after that they are ready incorrigible zombies (it’s quite possible there are some technologies

            You are absolutely right, all for this, the same is all that fast-paced peoples among themselves to achieve their own goals! You "+" from me.
    4. DEfindER
      DEfindER 17 August 2013 11: 38
      21
      Quote: Raptor75
      Who else believes that Islam is a peaceful religion?

      But do these animals have something to do with Islam, although I am a Christian, I know that all religions have approximately the same values, everyone teaches peace and creation, and killing is a terrible sin everywhere.
      In general, for the fact that they do these scum they can not be considered people in any way, which means that there can be no court, because brutalized animals are simply shot.
    5. Revolver
      Revolver 17 August 2013 20: 47
      +4
      Quote: Raptor75
      Who else believes that Islam is a peaceful religion?

      Well, in particular, Barack Hussein Obama believes this, thanks to the liberals, the US president. Or diligently pretends to believe.

      PS I did NOT vote for him.
      1. de_monSher
        de_monSher 18 August 2013 05: 08
        0
        Well, in particular, Barack Hussein Obama believes in this. PS I did NOT vote for him.


        For the fact that you do not believe the liberalists of the United States, you are sweet - take it on the second shelf on the left, as you enter the right room. And for the fact that they did not vote for Baraka Husseinovich - take away the same candy - they almost delayed the end of the "evil empire" called the USA with their stupid action ... *)))))
  • antiaircrafter
    antiaircrafter 17 August 2013 13: 12
    +5
    Quote: NKVD
    after public rape

    do not breed homo.
  • eplewke
    eplewke 19 August 2013 08: 41
    0
    Death is too easy for these non-humans. We must kill them painfully. So that they die in agony for a week !!! Horror! These are non-humans. At least you can get a Berdan from the attic and go to Syria to kill these "Allak-Akbarovtsy" churkabes!
  • FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 17 August 2013 07: 53
    11
    False zhurnalyug will also need to be brought to the international court, which will be held in Aleppo, Damascus, Tripoli or Belgrade as accomplices. The remaining defendants are the leadership of the United States, EU, NATO. So I wish them all good health in order to live up to this day.
  • sergey32
    sergey32 17 August 2013 07: 53
    14
    Fascists of the XXI century.
  • Oskar
    Oskar 17 August 2013 07: 55
    12
    A common punitive act of intimidation for the local population by barbarians-hirelings. What to expect from them? There is only one way out - the earliest possible cleansing of "opposition" from Syria. Patience and early Victory to the Syrian people and Bashar al-Assad.
    1. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 17 August 2013 11: 38
      +3
      For financing it is necessary to account, and since there are no military successes, civilians are being slaughtered. "Elite" is completely rotten, alas.
  • Bosk
    Bosk 17 August 2013 08: 00
    13
    For such freaks ... death is in a sense a deliverance. Here you would take all of them and send them to a distant isolated island (without protection so that you cut yourself) and let them boil in their own juice, and it’s natural to make strips there from time to time ... and then another America is drawn onto our head.
  • Oskar
    Oskar 17 August 2013 08: 02
    13
    Quote: FC Skiff
    False zhurnalyug will also need to be brought to the international court, which will be held in Aleppo, Damascus, Tripoli or Belgrade as accomplices. The remaining defendants are the leadership of the United States, EU, NATO. So I wish them all good health in order to live up to this day.

    Give the second Nuremberg trials !!! The place of Goering, Hess and Sauckel should take the leadership of the United States, NATO and Israel!
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 17 August 2013 08: 04
    +7
    religion evil and opium for people especially Islam
    1. pavlo
      pavlo 17 August 2013 08: 38
      -6
      I think Islam has nothing to do with it!
      1. Denis
        Denis 17 August 2013 09: 16
        +6
        Quote: pavlo
        I think Islam has nothing to do with it!

        Do you think that all this beast turned out to be Muslims by chance ???
        1. alone
          alone 17 August 2013 09: 28
          +2
          everyone has such a beast; these animals hide behind religion.
          1. Denis
            Denis 17 August 2013 09: 37
            14
            Quote: lonely
            everyone has such a beast; these animals hide behind religion.

            Sorry, BUT NOT IN THE SAME NUMBER !! After all, these people everywhere, shouting for the glory of Allah, kill, slaughter, blow up, where else this has been seen ..
            1. alone
              alone 17 August 2013 09: 53
              +3
              there are not many of them. but they operate centrally. they have excellent funding.
              propaganda work at the highest level. They know the psychology of people, they know how to find in every person they find a weak point and they hit it there, luring people into their ranks. They begin to help them financially. In short, they zombify people. The very course of Wahhabism in Islam is created by English intelligence. religion cannot justify killing a child. These are not religious fanatics, they are fanatical criminals who hide behind religion.
              1. Sandov
                Sandov 17 August 2013 11: 18
                +7
                Here I agree with you. Crusades organized by the West, I think the same were bloody.
                1. vladsolo56
                  vladsolo56 17 August 2013 11: 45
                  +2
                  only when it was in the darkest Middle Ages, today it’s like the 21st century, or am I mistaken
                2. ivshubarin
                  ivshubarin 18 August 2013 12: 18
                  0
                  Catholics and without crusades cut each other, the Jesuit Order, the Inquisition. Religion has nothing to do with it, just zombie fanatics are fighting for the interests of the uncle from Qatar
            2. DEfindER
              DEfindER 17 August 2013 11: 51
              +8
              Quote: Denis
              Sorry, BUT NOT IN THE SAME NUMBER !! After all, these people everywhere, shouting for the glory of Allah, kill, slaughter, blow up, where else this has been seen ..

              There used to be crusades when in the name of Christ they conceived whole cities .. Now that Christianity is already not getting used to it, Nazism has also exhausted itself, they are looking for something new and now they have found such a trend as Wahhabism. The point is that any religion can be so distorted that it from the carrier world will begin to sow death and will be more like Satanism and obscurantism ..
            3. smersh70
              smersh70 17 August 2013 13: 25
              -2
              Quote: Denis
              After all, these people everywhere, shouting for the glory of Allah, kill, cut, blow up, where else this has been seen ..


              right now their time has come .. but it was when during the time of the Crusades the crusaders did the same ....... or as white - for the tsar-priest, for faith !!!!!!! during the civil war .. .. hi
          2. Lyokha79
            Lyokha79 17 August 2013 09: 57
            +9
            What do you want to say that the Orthodox, with the name of Christ, are going to slaughter and blow up everyone who does not share their views? If you heard about this, then tell us.
            As for these creatures, they are commonplace bandits and have nothing to do with traditional Islam.
            1. alone
              alone 17 August 2013 10: 08
              +5
              Do you think there are few people in the world who cover up their crime with religion? regardless of religious affiliation, these non-humans must be destroyed.
            2. Taidrem
              Taidrem 17 August 2013 10: 44
              +4
              There are no Orthodox, but Catholics used to do this.
              1. gladiatorakz
                gladiatorakz 17 August 2013 11: 40
                +1
                Quote: Taidrem
                There are no Orthodox, but Catholics used to do this.

                And now they’re doing it. The USA is one of the most religious countries in the world. I missed the Sunday service - fly!
                1. Taidrem
                  Taidrem 18 August 2013 00: 02
                  0
                  Yes, in general, for 1000 years, little has changed before they fought for gold, but in the name of religion, and now for gold but in the name of democracy. Whoever says anything but does not change, what Russia was, in the eyes of the West, a country of barbarians and has remained such, and as we fought off them, we continue to fight back at any cost, no matter what it costs us!
        2. fennekRUS
          fennekRUS 17 August 2013 11: 40
          +6
          Islam in this case is a screen. Very comfortable. So that the resonance in the media was of the right intensity.
        3. Yarbay
          Yarbay 18 August 2013 08: 49
          +2
          Quote: Denis
          Do you think that all this beast turned out to be Muslims by chance ???

          I am sure that after the collapse of the USSR, Islam remained the only ideology that prevents those who want to rule the world!
          Therefore, I try to make people hate Islam!
          Do it with the hands of their old Wahhabi allies!
          1. old man54
            old man54 18 August 2013 21: 46
            +1
            Quote: Yarbay
            I am sure that after the collapse of the USSR, Islam remained the only ideology that prevents those who want to rule the world!

            No, Parviz, regardless of the USSR and its power, the greatest danger to the Zionists is the Russian people (Slavs), in general! They have a very powerful spirit and a strong desire for freedom. That still scares them, and that is why they are trying in every possible way to get to the Slavic states in terms of military bases and other things. But perhaps more afraid of the spiritual merger and unity of the Slavs and some Islamic countries, including the Arab. Then the Jews cover, and the United States as well.
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      2. Bosk
        Bosk 17 August 2013 09: 23
        +5
        Almost all religions preach GOOD, including Islam. It's all about radicalism, it's the same as in democracy (in the form in which it is implied and not available), because in a radical form it is boundless anarchy and other liberalisms. And at the expense of "Opium for the people" - I think if it were not for faith, then the commandments would not be observed, namely the main one "DO NOT KILL" (I want to note not someone exactly "KILL", but in the general sense of this words) and therefore there would be a lot more blood, even if we take into account the Inquisition and other crusades.
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          1. alone
            alone 17 August 2013 10: 10
            +2
            did you read the quran?
            1. Sandov
              Sandov 17 August 2013 11: 20
              +8
              I read the Koran in Russian many years ago. I was amazed. But these killers apparently did not read it.
            2. gladiatorakz
              gladiatorakz 17 August 2013 11: 45
              +1
              Read. True for a long time. But this is not my religion. There is no incitement to kill in the Qur'an.
              1. alone
                alone 17 August 2013 11: 58
                +5
                Christianity and Judaism are also not my religion. But I also read the Bible and the Torah. You know there are also no incitement to murder. The main thing is that we are all Monotheists, we believe in one GOD.
                1. gladiatorakz
                  gladiatorakz 17 August 2013 12: 15
                  +2
                  Quote: lonely
                  Christianity and Judaism are also not my religion. But I also read the Bible and the Torah.

                  I am not a Christian. I am a supporter of the Native Faith. But not against any other religion that does not interfere with the lives of others and teaches the correct lifestyle of their adherents.
          2. Bosk
            Bosk 17 August 2013 10: 32
            +5
            In the Qur'an, the respected murder is CONDEMNED and for your information Christianity in classical Islam is considered the closest religion to Islam, and on the subject of murder this thought slips in relation to people without FAITH, to be honest, to people "Without GOD in the head" and now the attitude ... let's just say "Not fluffy". Well, afterwards, I will advise you to read the Bible from cover to cover, and then the Koran ... you will be surprised that there is a lot in common.
            1. DEfindER
              DEfindER 17 August 2013 12: 33
              +1
              Quote: Bosk
              Christianity in classical Islam is considered the closest religion to Islam

              In general, Islam recognizes both Christ himself and his teachings, just the teachings of Muhammad are considered more advanced and correct, but he does not reject Christian principles at all ..
              In general, I believe that Communism can be considered a religion, here it has its own ideology, and temples with the relics of saints .. which, thank God, was preserved in the 90s from the stupid liberalists ..
        2. vladsolo56
          vladsolo56 17 August 2013 11: 48
          +9
          Give examples so that at least one religion stops the killings, I do not remember from the history of such examples. At all times and in all religions there have always been killers and rapists. In Islam, today their number is off the charts. If there will be a third world war, it is precisely between Islam and the rest of the world.
          1. Bosk
            Bosk 17 August 2013 13: 57
            +3
            And you are a nice American pilot dropping a bomb, let's say you defended the wedding procession in Afghanistan, and Evrikosov who gave the green light to the bombing of Libya? Any aggression gives rise to retaliatory aggression, and in the Arab version retaliatory aggression is much more brutal.
            1. igor67
              igor67 17 August 2013 14: 06
              +1
              Quote: Bosk
              And you are a nice American pilot dropping a bomb, let's say you defended the wedding procession in Afghanistan, and Evrikosov who gave the green light to the bombing of Libya? Any aggression gives rise to retaliatory aggression, and in the Arab version retaliatory aggression is much more brutal.

              let's leave Afghanistan alone. with all due respect to the Soviet soldiers who fought in Afghanistan and died, we were also occupants there and civilians died in villages no less. I had many friends who passed Afghanistan
            2. RUSSIA 2013
              RUSSIA 2013 17 August 2013 20: 52
              +4
              God help Syria and her courageous people, let's pray at least a minute for Syria and her people, Bashar al-Assad, we are with you.
              1. Professor
                Professor 17 August 2013 21: 01
                0
                Quote: RUSSIA 2013
                God help Syria and her courageous people, let's pray at least a minute for Syria and her people, Bashar al-Assad, we are with you.

                With you"? Who is Taba? wink
    2. alone
      alone 17 August 2013 09: 26
      +5
      these people are enemies of Islam.
      1. Denis
        Denis 17 August 2013 09: 29
        17
        Quote: lonely
        these people are enemies of Islam.

        but they have one faith. Tell me why it is mostly non-Muslims who are fighting against the enemies of Islam all over the world, why Muslims themselves do not destroy them, why "true" Muslim countries give them weapons, money for the war ????
        1. alone
          alone 17 August 2013 10: 00
          11
          the royal family of saudi arabia, the emir of qatar, the sultan of oman - all these people are also Wahhabis. They have their own goals. We don't give a damn about everything. Although I am a Muslim and Wahhabi, I would fight this evil too. We have everything in our country these people are under observation. if one of them starts to do something wrong, we immediately send him to jail for a long time. and in the prison he just gets all his ideas out of his head. But to kill a person just because he is Wahhabi. it means to fall to their level. because there is a moderate Wahhabi (as if so far quiet), and there is a fanatic. We do not stand on ceremony with fanatics.
          1. Force 75
            Force 75 17 August 2013 10: 31
            +3
            And the founder of Islam hails from Saudi Arabia and he lived far from like Jesus. Robbed caravans, wife, child, etc. Yes, and the Koran is written after his death. And what do you want from such a religion?
            1. alone
              alone 17 August 2013 10: 50
              +5
              don't you like Islam? no one forces you to love it. respecting your religious feelings, know how to respect the religious feelings of others. No one has the right to blacken and dirt other religions. Not a single faithful Muslim will say anything bad about Jesus. Even in the Koran there is a separate surah about Jesus and the Virgin Mary.
              1. Force 75
                Force 75 17 August 2013 11: 13
                +4
                Yes, I know about the fact that in the Koran there is a separate surah about Jesus and the Virgin Mary. But what is the insult? I brought facts from his life which are known to everyone.
                What did he live far from like Jesus? Is that not so? You look at what is happening in Syria.
                1. alone
                  alone 17 August 2013 11: 18
                  +4
                  and in Syria, who is fighting against these bandits? Are these people not Muslims?
            2. Yarbay
              Yarbay 17 August 2013 11: 26
              +1
              Quote: Force 75
              Robbed caravans, wife, child, etc. Yes, and the Koran is written after his death. And what do you want from such a religion?

              these are not facts, but a lie !!
              The Prophet of Muslims was one of the most honest and moral person!
              the Koran is not written by a prophet or by anyone!
              The Qur'an was sent to the Almighty Prophet, and after his death, his supporters transferred everything to paper!
              1. Force 75
                Force 75 17 August 2013 11: 37
                +3
                And what prevented the supporters from writing how they feel comfortable and how they want. And then there is no lie here. If the story is a lie.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 17 August 2013 12: 01
                  0
                  Quote: Force 75
                  And what prevented the supporters from writing how they feel comfortable and how they want. And then there is no lie here. If the story is a lie.

                  like what??
                  You don’t know the history of Islam!
                  When the prophet was still alive, there were hundreds of Hafiz people who knew the Qur'an by heart and that it was impossible to change anything in it!
                  In addition, the Qur'an protects the Almighty from distortion!
                  The lie is what you say and write here, not in history !!
                  1. Force 75
                    Force 75 17 August 2013 12: 13
                    +1
                    Recently, in Qatar or Saudi Arabia, fatwa was married to 2 year-old girls, we take it and we do it as a law that interferes. The future generation will believe in it. And they are the founders of Islam, and no one else.
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 17 August 2013 12: 36
                      +1
                      Quote: Force 75
                      Recently, in Qatar or Saudi Arabia, fatwa was getting married to 2 year-old girls, we take it and we do it like a law that interferes.

                      Nonsense)))))
                      this is a lie and nonsense!
                      units can give fatwa in the Muslim world!
                      and this must be substantiated scientifically!
                      and what you said is FALSE!
                      There is a fatwa that you can marry a girl at an early age, but it was not given yesterday either in Qatar or in the other country you named, and this has been practiced for many years!
                      But there is a clause about the inadmissibility of intimate relations until the age of majority!
                      It's just that parents still agreed with their newborns that my son would marry your daughter!
                      Just your ignorance does not allow you to know the details!
                      1. Force 75
                        Force 75 17 August 2013 13: 02
                        +5
                        An influential Saudi theologian, Sheikh Saleh al-Fawzan, issued a fatwa that allows fathers to give girls marriage in infancy.

                        The fatwa says: “Theologians agree that fathers have the right to marry their daughters, even if they are still in the cradle. But husbands cannot enter into intimacy with them until the girls can not bear the weight of the man lying on them, ”reports newsru.com.

                        This figure justifies his decision by an example from the life of the Prophet Muhammad. His wife Aisha at the time of marriage was 6 years old, but she did not have intimacy with her husband until the age of nine.

                        The argument is certainly strong, now in accordance with this fatwa, every pedophile in Saudi Arabia will compare himself with the Prophet.

                        Saudi authorities plan to set a minimum age for girls to marry. In the country, there are constantly cases when fathers marry young girls, trying to get a dowry for a bride the size of which can be tens of thousands of dollars.

                        The authorities of the kingdom are well aware that this is actually legalized pedophilia. The Ministry of Justice of Saudi Arabia, despite the resistance of Wahhabi theologians, intends to adopt a law establishing a minimum age for marriage.

                        Sheikh Saleh Al-Fawzan is a member of the two highest religious countries: the Standing Committee on Islamic Studies and Fatwas, as well as the Council of Higher Ulemas. Members of these bodies have the right to issue fatwas, which are used by Saudi courts to make decisions.
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 17 August 2013 14: 07
                        -1
                        Quote: Force 75

                        The fatwa says: “Theologians agree that fathers have the right to marry their daughters, even if they are still in the cradle. But husbands cannot enter into intimacy with them until the girls can not bear the weight of the man lying on them, ”reports newsru.com.

                        you are talking about an illiterate Wahhabi * calling him * an influential sheikh *!
                        Give a link from an Israeli newspaper!
                        I’m like a Muslim with 40 years of experience the first to hear about him !!
                        this * fatwa * is easily refuted, since the prophet spoke out about this issue and hundreds of scholars gave fatwas and there it is impossible to come up with something!
                        Just this one decided to show himself cunning, but not smart!
                        There is one well-known fatwa, that until the age of majority with a girl in Islam, you can’t be in intimacy, and that’s the point!
                        Everything else is nonsense and illiteracy * of Wahhabi sheikhs *!
                        Quote: Force 75
                        This figure justifies his decision by an example from the life of the Prophet Muhammad. His wife Aisha at the time of marriage was 6 years old, but she did not have intimacy with her husband until the age of nine.

                        this is also a lie, or rather not proven!
                        there are data from historical chronicles, according to which she was fifteen or even seventeen years old. Muslim sources and studies featured various ages of Aisha. At the same time, Ibn Hisham and some other historians have information that Aisha was among the first people to convert to Islam, which means that at the time of marriage she was 15 years old. In addition, some historians and scholars cite evidence that, before the Prophet, Jubair Ibn Mutim had worn her, and she was over 17 years old. Also, many historical chronicles provide information about the sister of Aisha Asma, who died at the age of 100 in the year 73 of the hijra. This means that she was 27 years old during the Hijra (the relocation of the Prophet Muhammad from Mecca to Medina). At the same time, it is known that Aisha was 10 years younger than her. And this, in turn, means that by the time of her marriage to the Prophet Muhammad she was 17 years old
                        Quote: Force 75
                        Sheikh Saleh Al-Fawzan is part of the two highest religious countries:

                        in a country where Wahhabism is the state religion)))))))))))
                        Funny))))
                      3. Denis
                        Denis 17 August 2013 14: 56
                        +3
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        in a country where Wahhabism is the state religion)))))))))))

                        If I’m not mistaken, then millions of Muslims flock to Mecca once a year (the great mosque, which is the center of the Muslim faith), in Saudi Arabia (a country sponsoring terrorism), where, in your words, Wahhabism is the state religion - how is this possible?
                      4. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 17 August 2013 15: 11
                        +5
                        Quote: Denis
                        If I’m not mistaken, then millions of Muslims flock to Mecca once a year (the great mosque, which is the center of the Muslim faith), in Saudi Arabia (a country sponsoring terrorism), where, in your words, Wahhabism is the state religion - how is this possible?

                        of course available!!
                        The fact is that the annual Hajj, one of the 5 mandatory requirements for a Muslim!
                        Sorry, why from my words ???
                        Open any encyclopedia, everywhere it is written that Wahhabism is the state religion in Saudi Arabia!
                      5. Denis
                        Denis 17 August 2013 15: 23
                        +3
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        of course available!!
                        The fact is that the annual Hajj, one of the 5 mandatory requirements for a Muslim!
                        Sorry, why from my words ???
                        Open any encyclopedia, everywhere it is written that Wahhabism is the state religion in Saudi Arabia!

                        It turns out that Wahhabism is the same Muslim religion, the same thing, some understand the Koran in this way, others do this, on holidays they all get together and read the same prayers, and it doesn’t matter who does what after the Hajj.?
                      6. alone
                        alone 17 August 2013 15: 33
                        +2
                        Wahhabism is not a religion, but one of the trends in religion. Well, in Christianity there are Catholics, Protestants. The same is in Islam.
                      7. Denis
                        Denis 17 August 2013 15: 48
                        +2
                        Too everything is contradictory .. Wahhabism is like evil, but the center of Islam is with them, and all Muslims consider it their duty to visit Mecca at least once.
                      8. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 17 August 2013 16: 16
                        +3
                        Quote: Denis
                        Too everything is contradictory .. Wahhabism is like evil, but the center of Islam is with them, and all Muslims consider it their duty to visit Mecca at least once.

                        nor the center, but the shrines of Islam !!
                        In Mecca it is forbidden to fight a Muslim at all !!
                        They captured him, killing half of the city !!
                  2. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 17 August 2013 16: 13
                    +3
                    Quote: Denis
                    It turns out that Wahhabism is the same Muslim religion, the same thing, some understand the Koran in this way, others do this, on holidays they all get together and read the same prayers, and it doesn’t matter who does what after the Hajj.?

                    Of course not!!
                    it’s difficult for you to explain in a nutshell !! Then I gave a clip about Wahhabi knowledge below !!
                    I listened to them a lot * of sheikhs * -this is just horror !! The contradictions and ischaene of the Qur'an every 5 minutes!
                    I can give you links, read, if of course you want ??
                  3. Denis
                    Denis 17 August 2013 16: 23
                    +2
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    I can give you links, read, if of course you want ??

                    To begin with, I’ll have to read the Koran so that I’ll understand a little, but thanks anyway.
                    The clip began to look, to be honest, it almost exploded, I didn’t look, I apologize.
                  4. alone
                    alone 17 August 2013 16: 47
                    0
                    Valeria Porokhova-Iman. Find its translation and read.
                  5. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 17 August 2013 18: 09
                    +1
                    Quote: lonely
                    Valeria Porokhova-Iman. Find its translation and read.

                    I don’t know. Have you read the wonderful poetic translation of Academician Theodor Adamovich Shumovsky !!?
                    I recommend, just super !!
                    All the same, the translation of academician Krachkovsky is considered a classic translation!
                2. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 17 August 2013 18: 12
                  +2
                  Quote: Denis
                  The clip began to look, to be honest, it almost exploded, I didn’t look, I apologize.

                  So I gave this clip as an example of discussion in Islam !!)))
    3. alone
      alone 17 August 2013 14: 12
      +3
      this sheikh is a Wahhabi. with him everything is clear
    4. Yarbay
      Yarbay 17 August 2013 14: 37
      +1
      Quote: lonely
      this sheikh is a Wahhabi. with him everything is clear

      Here he’s kind of cunning)))
      If they begin to object and demand justification, he will say that the child will not stand an adult !!))))))
  • old man54
    old man54 18 August 2013 22: 01
    0
    Quote: Yarbay
    Quote: Force 75
    Recently, in Qatar or Saudi Arabia, fatwa was getting married to 2 year-old girls, we take it and we do it like a law that interferes.

    Nonsense)))))
    this is a lie and nonsense!
    units can give fatwa in the Muslim world!

    In fact, this is not just a lie, but a blatant lie and juggling! Here is a link to the dock. a film where an American director, referring to Jewish religious texts, proves that it is in the Jewish tradition to copulate with girls of 2/3 years of age, and this is recorded in their texts !!!!!!!

    [media = http: //doskado.ucoz.ru/blog/2010-01-14-5]
  • old man54
    old man54 18 August 2013 21: 51
    0
    Quote: Yarbay
    In addition, the Qur'an protects the Almighty from distortion!

    unfortunately this is not so, Parviz! Not that it would not protect, but He gave it to people, and they trustfully carry it through life. The same thing with the Jewish Bible, they were given this knowledge, and they were poorer, perverted, etc. ... But the purity of the Koran doesn’t stand next to the distorted modern Bible!
  • Taidrem
    Taidrem 17 August 2013 10: 47
    +3
    As I said this vicious circle, a new war is coming, and I hope that in all this turmoil we will remain human ...
  • Bosk
    Bosk 17 August 2013 10: 43
    +7
    You will probably be very surprised if you find out that before the Crusades, the Arabs on religious grounds practically didn’t arrange cabbage and Christian churches were also there and no one was persecuting Christians there. There are simply two things that can be almost all wrong, this is politics and lawlessness ... which we are observing right now.
  • Sandov
    Sandov 17 August 2013 11: 22
    +2
    This brand is promoted by amers and other puppeteers for their selfish purposes.
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 17 August 2013 11: 28
    +3
    Quote: Denis
    . Tell me why non-Muslims are fighting the enemies of Islam all over the world.

    stupid things!
    everything is accurate to the contrary!
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 18 August 2013 00: 06
      +1
      Quote: Yarbay
      Quote: Denis
      . Tell me why non-Muslims are fighting the enemies of Islam all over the world.

      stupid things!
      everything is accurate to the contrary!

      Oh well. Who bombed the Serbs for the benefit of Bosnian Muslims? And then who gave the Albanians (mostly Muslims) the Serbian Kosovo? Who brought down the secular regime of Gaddafi in Libya and brought Muslim brothers to power there? Who betrayed the shah and allowed the ayatollahs to seize power?

      PS I’m not shy about the American flag, although I could easily replace it with a sickly-red Soviet hammer. But when the Serbs bombed Clinton, I was ashamed of America.
  • alone
    alone 17 August 2013 11: 35
    +2
    Quote: Denis
    the enemies of Islam are fought around the world mostly by non-Muslims


    and who is wetting them in Syria? Buddhists?))) and who are fighting in Yemen with bearded men? dozens of examples can be given. even in Pakistan, the army is fighting with local bearded men
  • alone
    alone 17 August 2013 11: 43
    +4
    Quote: Denis
    but they have one faith


    these people have no faith. not one religion justifies the slaughter of children, women, old people, prisoners. these two-legged beings serve Satan
  • Ascetic
    Ascetic 17 August 2013 10: 08
    17
    Quote: lonely
    these people are enemies of Islam.


    What is the difference between radical Islam proper and Islam as a religion?
    The fact that radical Islam is violence against other people and propaganda of violence against other people for the fact that they do not comply with certain norms and dogmas of this religion, eat pork for example, or do not comply with Shariah laws. As soon as a person violates Shariah, from the point of view of radical Islam, he should be subjected to violence, without any excuses and regrets about this. Allahu akbar and ax head.
    Is it possible to say that living according to the laws of Sharia is the only right way, and all who do not want to follow this path are enemies of Islam? Probably why not, everyone a person can profess his views . Is it possible to say that those who do not comply with Sharia (among those who do not agree to live according to Sharia law) should be subjected to violence? No, it is impossible in any case. This is extremism and violence propaganda. And the commission of this violence itself is already a crime against humanity and not a holy struggle for the only correct pure Islam.
    Radical Islam and American democracy are very close, their essence is generally the same, they are twins. Both profess their values ​​as the only ones possible, as universal values ​​for all of humanity.. Their common enemy is people professing the right to the states themselves, societies, families, people to choose for themselves the values ​​by which they will live.
    Therefore, Wahhabism and other radical Islam is nothing more than a draft of the Anglo-Saxon special services, English and American. They took the ideas of Protestantism and Judeo-Christianity, and transferred them to Muslim soil.
    It is in Syria that the values ​​of Western Protestant democracy are being implanted by the forces of radical Islamists from all over the world. First you need to cut out all those who do not agree to live according to Sharia law, and then among those who remain to hold American "fair elections" and there will be universal democratic happiness in Syria, like in Libya, Iraq and Egypt.

    1. alone
      alone 17 August 2013 10: 10
      +9
      absolutely right. Wahhabism created by the British
      1. Taidrem
        Taidrem 17 August 2013 10: 50
        +8
        Therefore, it is necessary to disperse this America, return Alaska to Russian administration and divide America into several states to give the indigenous peoples of America independence.
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 17 August 2013 11: 30
      +1
      Quote: Ascetic
      What is the difference between radical Islam proper and Islam as a religion?

      Only one!
      The fact that Islam is one, and * radical or moderate Islam * have nothing in common with Islam except for external attributes!
      Everything else is nonsense!
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 17 August 2013 11: 52
        +4
        Quote: Yarbay
        The fact that Islam is one, and * radical or moderate Islam * have nothing in common with Islam except for external attributes!


        Alibek, welcome! Any religion, including Islam, following its norms and rules is personal matter of each person(in general terms, as a way to spiritual self-improvement of a person) this is the freedom of conscience and religion. And the use of religious ideology and external attributes and rules of religion for political purposes, the imposition of its rules on the whole society as a whole have nothing to do with freedom of conscience, and all this is called theocracy or radical religious extremism.
        a political system in which religious leaders have a decisive influence on state policy (political definition).
        a form of government in which power in the state is in the hands of a religious institution and clergy (legal definition).
        a system of government in which important social affairs are decided by divine directions, revelations, or laws (a theological definition).

        Perhaps one can cite the example of Iran, where Shiite clerics and Saudi Arabia dominate with the Wahhabi clerical caliphate.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 17 August 2013 12: 11
          +2
          Quote: Ascetic

          Alibek, welcome! Any religion, including Islam, following its norms and rules is a personal affair of every person (in general terms, as a way to spiritual self-improvement of a person) this is freedom of conscience and religion

          Hi, only in Islam is it condemned!
          No one has the right to interpret Islam as he wants!
          Quote: Ascetic

          Perhaps one can cite the example of Iran, where Shiite clerics dominate

          what do you call shitic clericalism ??
          You know the trouble is that many do not know deeply what is happening in Islam, what is different in the currents!
          Here, thousands in Myanmar last year kill Muslims, burn!
          At least someone talks about this ??
          Even Muslim countries are silent!
          All are controlled by certain people in the world, or rather, while trying to control!
          Therefore, I do not agree with your definition!
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 17 August 2013 12: 20
          +3
          Quote: Ascetic
          Alibek, welcome

          Here I will give you an example of discussions in the currents!
          these are ordinary believers, but pay attention to make arguments, not speak from the ceiling!
          There are simply people who continue to persist in their mistakes!
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 17 August 2013 12: 31
            +1
            I’ll look out of interest. At the beginning of the video, the question is Chechens (left) who are arguing with? The nationality of the opponents?
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 17 August 2013 13: 01
              +2
              Quote: Gleb
              I’ll look out of interest. At the beginning of the video, the question is Chechens (left) who are arguing with? The nationality of the opponents?

              I do not know mostly Dagestanis in my opinion!
              Defined by dialect!
              The opponent speaks without much emphasis, it’s hard for me to say, it is quite possible a Tatar or an Azerbaijani!
              Here is another example, they say why the Muslims themselves did not expose the Wahhabis?
              Yes, hundreds of times they did it !!
              Scientists were invited from Arab countries because the Wahhabis said that we distrust your knowledge!
              Always the result was the same!
              Just alas, the sheep still follow them, but mainly because of the money!
              Every month, under various pretexts, they pay money to their followers!
              1. Hleb
                Hleb 17 August 2013 13: 06
                +3
                there are exactly three Chechens there. Yunus and two behind the scenes. I watched until half and the brain began to boil ... it seems to me they will not come to a common opinion. Kurban seems to me not quite adequately answer. In short, I’ll better look at the second video)
                (looked at the second ... how different we are ...)
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 17 August 2013 13: 45
                  +3
                  Quote: Gleb
                  there are exactly three Chechens there. Yunus and two behind the scenes. I watched until half and the brain began to boil ... it seems to me they will not come to a common opinion. Kurban seems to me not quite adequately answer. In short, I’ll better look at the second video)

                  It is difficult to determine who is right for the outsider!
                  But it is easier for those who know the Arabic language and Hadith, no matter which one speaks!
                  I brought this not to show who is right, but to show what kind of discussion there is between the currents, what are the differences)
                  mostly historical aspects!
                  1. Hleb
                    Hleb 17 August 2013 13: 49
                    +2
                    that's why I started to boil. because you need to know Arabic. but by the end of the video I had the opinion that they themselves find a dispute where it should not be. In any case, it's not for me to talk about it
                    (yes, I understand why this video is here)
                2. Hleb
                  Hleb 17 August 2013 13: 47
                  +1
                  "Ali of the believers" и "Ali the believer"
                  they translate and present to each other in different ways ... Sunnis claim that it needs to be understood in different ways, Kurban does not know how to refute it ... people have problems
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 17 August 2013 14: 29
                    +2
                    Quote: Gleb
                    "Ali of the believers" and "Ali the believer"
                    they translate and present to each other in different ways ... Sunnis claim that it needs to be understood in different ways, Kurban does not know how to refute it ... people have problems

                    Quote: Gleb
                    "Ali of the believers" and "Ali the believer"
                    they translate and present to each other in different ways ... Sunnis claim that it needs to be understood in different ways, Kurban does not know how to refute it ... people have problems

                    That is not the point!
                    I brought the second part, so it’s a little not clear!
                    I will briefly outline what is the matter !!
                    Shiites believe that after the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), power should have been transferred to Ali and further to the imams of his descendants!
                    That Abubekr, Omar and Osman usurped power!
                    As a reason, the hadeeth will bring that during his life the prophet in a place called Kadir Hum called all the believers and told them that he had received such a message that if he did not announce it his mission of the prophet would not be completed !!
                    Then he calls Ali and raising his hand says that to all believers Ali is the leader!
                    After that, many will even bring him a beating!
                    And opponents say that the prophet said these words figuratively!
                    Just emphasized Ali's faith!
                    In addition, being near death, the prophet asked to bring paper and a pen so that he would write his last instructions that would protect the Muslims from disagreements in the future! Omar actively opposed this, saying that the prophet was raving, the quarrel began in the room and the prophet did not insist!
                    When the prophet died, while Ali was washing his body and preparing a funeral, a group of Muslims quickly chose Abu Bakr as caliph, justifying it with the threat of unrest!
                    Since then they have been arguing about this! Just some write everything as if convenient for their beliefs, but everyone knows perfectly well what the truth is, especially scientists!
                    There are disagreements about how the correct position should be with prayer for temporary marriages !!
                    That is why I say the differences are small !!!
                    There are no big differences !!
                  2. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 17 August 2013 14: 48
                    +1
                    Quote: Gleb
                    "Ali of the believers" and "Ali the believer"
                    they translate and present to each other in different ways ... Sunnis claim that it needs to be understood in different ways, Kurban does not know how to refute it ... people have problems

                    I think this is an interesting answer about the differences!
                    there are 4 parts, I bring the first part, but it is interesting for those who want to understand Islam!
                  3. Tykta
                    Tykta 18 August 2013 11: 06
                    -1
                    Gleb! there are no translations, the Koran was written in Arabic so that there would be no misinterpretation. So, do not poke your nose into this vivarium, because you do not even understand where what originates from. initially, all views in Islam were generally understandable and accessible, and only the interpretation of certain suras and verses led to fragmentation in Islam. the same is true between Sunnis and Shiites, and for the uninitiated, this disagreement is presented in the form of a type of disagreement as the Qur'an was given to Mohammed, in the form of a book or on ram's shoulder blades. to understand the basis of Wahhabism, you need to know that it follows from Salafism, and the Salafis sooner or later are transformed by their inner convictions into Wahhabis, since this is the perspective of the development of the views of those professing Salafism. few people can remain within those boundaries that he attributes, asceticism, vigilance, purity, literality, and further transformation of views inevitably leads to a fall in views either to radicalism or to "taqlid", that is, whose argument is stronger. Yarbai is a clearly expressed Salafi, he interprets Islam as he pleases, for him there are no teachers or schools in which he professes his views, for him Islam is a pure faith without intermediaries and those who can interpret one or another sura or concept to him. .. in general, he is engaged in how to call it ... the idealization of Islam, while this very faith for him is understood only from his own views, those that are convenient for him momentarily
                  4. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 18 August 2013 13: 53
                    0
                    Quote: Tykta
                    and further transformation of views inevitably leads to a fall in views either to radicalism or to "taqlid", that is, whose argument is stronger. Yarbai is a clearly expressed Salafi, he interprets Islam as he pleases,

                    Quote: Tykta
                    , and the Salafis sooner or later transform according to their internal beliefs into Wahhabis

                    do you even understand what he said ??))))))))))))))
                    You have a vinigret in your head)))))))))
                    Salafists are Wahhabis))
                    this is the self-name of these poor fellows!
                    Well, you brake)))))))))
                    or think they call themselves Wahhabis !! ????))
                  5. TuKta
                    TuKta 18 August 2013 16: 36
                    -1
                    Quote: Yarbay


                    or think they call themselves Wahhabis !! ????))

                    But what do they still call themselves? Whose authority do they appeal to? to the Salafis?
                    Quote: Yarbay


                    You have a vinigret in your head)))))))))
                    Salafists are Wahhabis))
                    this is the self-name of these poor fellows!

                    Do these brackets really look fun, or are they meant to joke your VINIGRET in your head? I clearly realize that the Wahhabis position themselves precisely as Wahhabis, those who control these same Wahhabis call themselves Salafists, they are not supposed to slide into the abyss of primitive faith, their task is to give goals and direction. that's why I say that you are positioning yourself as a Salafi so far, because you consider yourself as if smarter and more eloquent. however, a simple analysis of your references to direct Wahhabi appeals gives reason to believe that you are promoting Wahhabism indirectly and as if acting contrary to it, although the facts suggest otherwise. You are promoting Wahhabism, I have already noticed this more than once in your comments and remarks.
            2. Yarbay
              Yarbay 17 August 2013 15: 58
              +2
              Quote: Gleb
              (looked at the second.

              they are real liars and ignoramuses and are absolutely illiterate!

  • Tykta
    Tykta 18 August 2013 10: 49
    -1
    question - you forgive me ...?
    How does radical or moderate Islam have nothing to do with Islam? he has a common environment with him, and vectors, directions can be interpreted depending on his views and goals, so don’t talk nonsense ... I know that you are a Wahhabi who hides his views under Salafi judgments, and by the way you are far from being a pacifist, so you always hide their judgments under streamlined glances.
    let's admit that Islam will be on everything on earth, and there is no need to say that it will be a peaceful absorption ... you are not even smart, you are simply primitive in your judgments and fear of publicizing your views
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 17 August 2013 11: 34
    +3
    Quote: Ascetic
    Is it possible to say that living according to the laws of Sharia is the only right way, and all who do not want to follow this path are the enemies of Islam?
  • horoh
    horoh 17 August 2013 08: 20
    10
    These nonhumans can only be cured by shooting !!!
    1. Denis
      Denis 17 August 2013 09: 19
      +9
      Quote: horoh
      These nonhumans can only be cured by shooting !!!

      What Assad is doing, we should only help him ..
      1. Taidrem
        Taidrem 17 August 2013 10: 51
        +4
        The best help would be to send our troops, and most importantly, fighters from the Chechen battalion east, they would quickly disperse everyone there.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 18 August 2013 03: 50
          0
          Quote: Taidrem
          The best help would be to send our troops, and most importantly, fighters from the Chechen battalion east, they would quickly disperse everyone there.

          Yes, there are already Chechens there. Moreover, what is typical, they are fighting on the side of "fighters for freedom and crap." Chechens are practically all Sunnis and through one Wahhabis.
          So how to send?
      2. horoh
        horoh 17 August 2013 18: 18
        +1
        I am for helping Assad only when this real help will be.
        1. Taidrem
          Taidrem 18 August 2013 00: 07
          0
          Maybe then let's collect signatures, sent to the Federation Council at https://www.change.org/en, and to the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, in order to hold a referendum in the territory of the Russian Federation, in the coming months and decide to send Russian troops to this referendum help our friends from Syria or not!
          Personally, I, without any humor and in all seriousness, consider that it is necessary to help with military force, and do not give a damn what the Americans think there !!!
  • Laserson
    Laserson 17 August 2013 08: 30
    +3
    These jackals also have a support group on VK - http://vk.com/freesyrianarmy
    1. IGS
      IGS 17 August 2013 11: 20
      +5
      Spent 20 minutes and filed a complaint to Roskomnadzor (propaganda of violence and a call for unauthorized actions), even if it’s blocked, it’s a pity that if they cover this page, they’ll pop up somewhere else.
  • Nod
    Nod 17 August 2013 09: 06
    +5
    jackals. garbage. why children. it's just the lowest that can be.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 17 August 2013 09: 18
    +9
    And where is the Western Democratic community ??? Where is Human Rights Watch ??? Specially visited their website and saw a bunch of crimes of the government army and just a couple of rebels.
    Democracy for the USA - the death of children, the elderly and women for Syria!
    I did not find this video, nor did I find the video "with the cannibal"
  • Siberian
    Siberian 17 August 2013 09: 22
    +2
    Quote: Denis
    Quote: ivshubarin
    The same should be done with human rights defenders protecting them.

    What will the bastards from the UN say to this, they will again mumble, they say they need to figure it out ....

    They will not say anything to the UN. As usual "oh, we didn't notice, and no matter how something happened"
  • alone
    alone 17 August 2013 09: 22
    10
    Wahhabism is evil. Evil must be destroyed.
    1. Denis
      Denis 17 August 2013 09: 40
      +6
      Quote: lonely
      Wahhabism is evil. Evil must be destroyed.

      We must not say, we must do it first of all to the Muslims themselves, because it's all yours.
      1. old man54
        old man54 18 August 2013 22: 41
        0
        Quote: Denis
        it is necessary to do, and first of all, the Muslims themselves, because it's all yours.

        no, this is our common problem, universal, alas! request
  • Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 17 August 2013 09: 29
    11
    Something this war dragged on. It's time to help Bashar al-Assad in a serious way. Not only promises of air defense systems, but also land weapons. Let it wet all this terrorist international. And especially "ours" from the North Caucasus. So they don't come back.
    1. JonnyT
      JonnyT 17 August 2013 12: 33
      10
      Already something, but we know how to convince "our". Can share experience
  • Anti
    Anti 17 August 2013 09: 40
    +7
    These atrocities bring irreparable harm to the Religions of Islam, if the Muslim world continues to look away, then there are no words ... ..
  • Siberian
    Siberian 17 August 2013 09: 41
    +4
    Quote: Sergei Medvedev
    Something this war dragged on.
    Someone needs this war. But it’s necessary to help, only something can’t be seen. So, the languid and passive statements are made by our high-ranking bourgeoisie.
    1. Taidrem
      Taidrem 17 August 2013 10: 53
      +1
      I think that our hands are tied because of the huge number of traitors in our ranks, this is how the purges begin next year, and we will live normally.
  • nokki
    nokki 17 August 2013 10: 23
    +3
    Quote: soldier's grandson
    the Koran calls for the killing of Gentiles


    Have you read it or thoroughly know all the suras? Do not allow such provocative statements! The Qur'an says: “If one of the Gentiles comes and asks for patronage, you will be his patron until he hears the message of Allah, and if you do not believe, you do not force him and escort him to a place safe for him.” And you, probably, read Wahhabi literature?
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 17 August 2013 15: 29
      0
      I prefer not to fill my head with all sorts of nonsense
  • screw cutter
    screw cutter 17 August 2013 10: 47
    +3
    It is interesting to see, or at least hear about radical Orthodoxy.
    1. Bosk
      Bosk 17 August 2013 11: 18
      0
      This is the Old Believers, these guys decided everything radically. They have long understood that the main thing in religion is FAITH and SOUL, and the thick-bellied priests and other offices are only a hindrance to this.
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  • erased
    erased 17 August 2013 11: 00
    +6
    The full end! Here they are, the rules of lawless people, behind whose back the States and other Tolerasts!
    But this also awaits Russia. A prayer show on the streets of Moscow, impunity for immigrants from Asia and the Caucasus, open destruction of Russians, and all this with the complete connivance of the authorities. And if it goes on like this, they will kill Russian boys on the streets of Moscow, Peter Tambov, Omsk. Under the recording with shouts of "Allah Akbar". And corrupt policemen will also guard the murder scene.
    The world has slipped into obscurantism. And soon we will feel it for ourselves in full.
  • BETELGEUSE
    BETELGEUSE 17 August 2013 11: 06
    +6
    etix fanatikov nado istrebit sleca zemli !!! eto nekokoi ne voina za svabodu !!! eta prosto fanatizm! v kurane negde ne napisno chto, za ubistva dedtei mojno papast v rai !!! i vofshem ubistva cheloveka eto dla nastoiashix musliman grex !!!
    1. KBPC50
      KBPC50 17 August 2013 11: 17
      -4
      Betelgeuse - you do not know Russian Lengwich - write in your native language, otherwise it's strange. We can both Russian and French, and ..
      1. Mervik
        Mervik 17 August 2013 13: 10
        +4
        and if Klava without Cyrillic? He writes in Russian, and in what way - this is the second thing. So your remark looks like an uncultured, uncivilized familiar poking.
    2. mogus
      mogus 17 August 2013 17: 09
      +3
      etix fanatikov nado istrebit sleca zemli !!! eto nekokoi ne voina za svabodu !!! eta prosto fanatizm! v kurane negde ne napisno chto, za ubistva dedtei mojno papast v rai !!! i vofshem ubistva cheloveka eto dla nastoiashix musliman grex !!!


      The site provides transliteration - the "T" icon (write as you can, press "T" and you get: these fanatics must be destroyed by a slice of the earth !!! this is not a warrior for freedom !!! this is just fanaticism! what, for the murder of dedei moino papast in paradise !!! and wowshem murder of a man is a sin for nastoyashih musliman !!!
  • solomon
    solomon 17 August 2013 11: 08
    +2
    A number of corrupt journalists from Al-Jazeera-type TV channels have become puppets in the hands of aggressors. They spread misinformation about Syria, just as they had previously lied about the events in Libya.

    And before that they tried in Ossetia.
  • KBPC50
    KBPC50 17 August 2013 11: 14
    +2
    These messages kill anyone, they are not worthy of faith. These are ordinary bastards, those who were destroyed by GEORGY KONSTANTINOVICH in Odessa.
    1. alone
      alone 17 August 2013 11: 20
      +3
      such as bearded men do not have a nationality and religion. These people are social outcasts.
  • Raptor75
    Raptor75 17 August 2013 11: 16
    +3
    According to the Islamic calendar, it is the 15th century, they behave accordingly. VERY long time will pass until they rise to our level.
  • KBPC50
    KBPC50 17 August 2013 11: 18
    +1
    Helen you are super !!!!
  • Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 17 August 2013 11: 18
    +5
    Such a bastard does not even deserve to be shot. Only a long painful death.
  • KBPC50
    KBPC50 17 August 2013 11: 18
    +1
    Helen you are super !!!!
  • Bosk
    Bosk 17 August 2013 11: 23
    0
    Guys judging Islam in this freak is the same as judging the Sociolistic system by the actions of Chikatilo, or let's say about Orthodoxy by the actions of the Inquisition in the Middle Ages ... so keep in mind that this article is about UGLY, and not Islam (by the way such criminals under any Islamic law)
    1. Ilya Mikhalych
      Ilya Mikhalych 17 August 2013 14: 48
      +1
      And who is the judge? As for me, these "rebels" have nothing to do with Islam.
  • ZU-23
    ZU-23 17 August 2013 11: 35
    +5
    already breathing from evil is beating, would build and tore the scum by a combine
  • Pensioner
    Pensioner 17 August 2013 11: 48
    +4
    If such world Islamists, Wahhabis
    will "seize" our Muslims, what will happen to them? "Our Muslims" - I mean - in the post-Soviet space: in Central Asia, in the republics of Russia (the same Caucasus, etc.). After all, it's no secret that over 70 years of Soviet power, our Muslims are not particularly confused by religious fanaticism. So the Wahhabite ideologists have many reasons to find fault with any of our Muslims - that he is not so religious and behaves incorrectly according to some religious postulates. And here we are talking about the destruction of children from religious phantism, and this demonstrative murder of the younger generation is no longer first. Young people in all generations are "dissenting", otherwise there would be no progress in the development of the human race. This happens in any nation. "The problem of fathers and children" is a problem of world geniuses from the Russians. The same Mendeleev left on foot from the Arkhangelsk hinterland to St. Petersburg, despite the prohibition of his father. And in Muslim traditions, complete submission to the older generation and age-old religious dogmas. If in the Islamic world, children they dislike are executed, what will happen to our Muslim children and youth? They are much more enlightened, freer from religious dogmas than in the countries of Islam. Will they shoot every second child and youth? Our post-Soviet Muslims need to think, at least for the sake of their own children, descendants, how to prevent Wahhabism in our territory. What will happen to their children and grandchildren if they welcome Islamism as a religious dogma. It will be scary when your child is sentenced to death, and not for some bad deeds, but simply because he does not believe in the Koran and Allah. And you cannot resist with anything, protect your blood. Precisely because he himself allowed religious fanaticism. He did not oppose anything. Muslims do not even admit the thought that the same can happen to their children, because they know that Russians will not allow this, but the sad thing is that living under the protection of Russians, some allow themselves disrespect for Russians and can condemn the Orthodox faith Russians, and dream of world Islam, extolling their own Muslim faith. Sometimes dreams come true. Perhaps someone will have to live with their descendants in the Islamic world, but not on Russian soil. But then they themselves will have toon yourself, your children to experience something similar that is happening in the world on a religious basis.
    1. alone
      alone 17 August 2013 12: 20
      10
      Dear. Everything that happens there has nothing to do with religion. If they get to us tomorrow, we will also take up arms and be with those who are fighting against them. you can be 100% sure of this. if necessary, as a Muslim, I would rather die fighting against them than to be with them and do such evil
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 17 August 2013 13: 17
        +7
        Quote: lonely
        , as a Muslim, I would rather die fighting against them than to be with them and do such evil

        I support, but I'm afraid by then there will be a minority!
        Nobody wants to learn, everyone wants to earn!
        1. old man54
          old man54 18 August 2013 22: 48
          0
          Quote: Yarbay
          Quote: lonely
          , as a Muslim, I would rather die fighting against them than to be with them and do such evil

          I support, but I'm afraid by then there will be a minority!
          Nobody wants to learn, everyone wants to earn!

          Parviz, guys, I will be with you, although I am not a Muslim and I don’t intend to refuse my faith from Vera who came to me from my father !!! And we will win, believe! We will dress them all, together with the Zionists, on our genital organs and we will turn them there until they die! angry
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 17 August 2013 12: 28
      +6
      Quote: Retired
      "Our Muslims" - I mean - in the post-Soviet space

      the trouble is that most of the illiterate Muslims are in the post-Soviet space!
      Quote: Retired
      will "seize" our Muslims, what will happen to them?

      I'm afraid that most will follow the Wahhabis!
      1. Mervik
        Mervik 17 August 2013 12: 59
        0
        these are different people !!!! Wahhabis and Muslims - this is a different worldview, these are different values, these are different goals, this is different EDUCATION !!! Islam is the epiphany. Wahhabism - offended children.

        Destroy Wahhabism with love !!! We will cast out legions of demons from the sons of God through love and faith. Recall that each of them was originally innocent and blessed in infancy.

        ... do not desire crying and gnashing of teeth
      2. Very old
        Very old 17 August 2013 13: 20
        +4
        One thing I know - religion cannot be aggressive if it is Religion.
  • KBPC50
    KBPC50 17 August 2013 11: 52
    +1
    These destroy faith, not Islam, the religion of Ulugbek, the religion of great, kind and strong people, the religion of science and reason.
    1. Very old
      Very old 17 August 2013 13: 29
      +1
      In an article on the Semirechye Cossacks, Asan Ata agreed to the point that he declared all the Turkic languages ​​as given by God. We have already gone through this. The Germans believed the prophet G. Jews are also God's chosen people. Anglo-Saxons are the best. The Chinese are the most correct And the list will go on
      1. alone
        alone 17 August 2013 13: 36
        +2
        Anglo-Saxons created Wahhabism as a counter to the Muslim world.
  • builder
    builder 17 August 2013 12: 18
    +2
    After the defeat of Nazi Germany, the American occupation authorities for 10 years carried out denazification. In addition to ships, executions, lustration, the United States beat out totalitarianism from the Germans by violently showing a movie about the horrors of Nazism, as well as the work of gravediggers. It was impossible to refuse.
    It would be nice to pursue such a policy with respect to deputies of the European Parliament and the US Congress, every day to play a similar video so that the brains fall into place.
    Yes, and throughout Europe broadcast such horrors
    1. Very old
      Very old 17 August 2013 13: 32
      +3
      Alexey, you talked about the visible work of US. But it was they who saved the Nazis from the court of nations
      1. builder
        builder 17 August 2013 14: 17
        +2
        Yes, it is clear.
        I just want to poke sleek Europeans with this nose. Children are dying and nobody cares in the EU before (but they fight for gay rights around the world).
  • asbaev
    asbaev 17 August 2013 12: 39
    +3
    States finance these freaks, becoming the same geeks. And when they get their eggs they will cry and say that they were forced. It's disgusting to even watch.
  • Mervik
    Mervik 17 August 2013 12: 46
    0
    SEE !!!!!!!! AGAIN!!!! AGAIN!!! Want to America in the USA? Love hypocrites? do you want democracy? or maybe paranoia in Islam with you?

    "But I tell you that many will come from the east and west and will lie down with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven, and the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness: there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Gospel
  • Pensioner
    Pensioner 17 August 2013 12: 53
    +5
    Lonely. I know that many Muslims think the same way as you, especially from the older, Soviet generation. But maybe you don't have to wait until tomorrow when you have to stand shoulder to shoulder, like when Hitler attacked? And at that time, not everyone "went to the enemy", there were traitors with their own convictions. Maybe today we need to act somehow to prevent war? We must respect each other's religion, this is indisputable. But you cannot deny that this obscurantism of Islamism is presented precisely with a religious subtext. The demonstrative shooting of a Muslim 16 year old boy for saying that he does not believe in the Koran or in Allah is not an example of religious fanaticism for you? My Muslim friend, when she saw this video, said: "My grandchildren are generally atheists, so should they be shot too? Or should we force them into faith?" Maybe this is how the Muslim faith is implanted out of fear of death? And is it not from our Muslim republics that terrorism comes from our Muslim republics? So it's not me who interpret the Muslim faith incorrectly, but interpret it as your co-religionists, Islamists, Wahhabis want. It’s easier for you to figure out who is who among vas. And from the outside it seems to all that Muslims are all "smeared with one world."
    1. alone
      alone 17 August 2013 13: 43
      +5
      these people are not considered Muslims. not one normal person whoever he does will do what they do. and this obscurantism has nothing to do with Islam. these fanatics cover up their crimes with religion.
  • igor67
    igor67 17 August 2013 13: 35
    +1
    [] The chairman of the Union of Journalists of Syria, Ilyas Murad, made a statement on the occasion of the day of the journalist, in which he said that the national media play a crucial role in opposing the anti-Syrian plot. He noted that a fierce information war was launched against the country. A number of corrupt journalists from Al-Jazeera-type TV channels have become puppets in the hands of aggressors. They spread misinformation about Syria, just as they had previously lied about the events in Libya.
    [/ Quote]
    here are Elena the right words and they also apply to you. in a previous article where you posted a photo of a guy allegedly sawn by militants actually happened in Brazil. And this is not your first crap to get members of the forum here. Many people already offer to quart and then rape so that you are also careful with the feather.
    1. builder
      builder 17 August 2013 14: 21
      +2
      He noted that a fierce information war was launched against the country. A number of corrupt journalists from Al-Jazeera-type TV channels have become puppets in the hands of aggressors. They spread misinformation about Syria, just as they had previously lied about the events in Libya.
      .... And also continue their business in Egypt. To bomb this Qatar to ... mom. Like a hotbed of terror.
      1. igor67
        igor67 17 August 2013 14: 35
        +2
        Quote: stroitel
        He noted that a fierce information war was launched against the country. A number of corrupt journalists from Al-Jazeera-type TV channels have become puppets in the hands of aggressors. They spread misinformation about Syria, just as they had previously lied about the events in Libya.
        .... And also continue their business in Egypt. To bomb this Qatar to ... mom. Like a hotbed of terror.

        that’s why I wrote a journalist should be objective. In the modern world, thousands of lives depend on a pen
        1. builder
          builder 17 August 2013 14: 41
          +1
          A journalist, in our time - a "talking head" (with rare exceptions.)
  • Pensioner
    Pensioner 17 August 2013 13: 40
    +3
    Regarding the illiteracy of Muslims. Since the perestroika times, this is an imposition: that it is enough to know the Koran, they say it contains everything, complete guidance that a Muslim needs for life and for the soul, and for the upbringing of the spirit of a warrior. They, their ideologists do not need educated people who will find it difficult Dudayev then stated that 4 grade of education is enough for boys, and even less for girls: 1-2 grades is enough. Many Chechens believed, they followed him. They fought, instead of peacefully raising and teaching children. Now in Chechnya itself, according to the written text, smskam-determine and age. If it is written correctly, it means that a person in the age has written. If it is illiterate, this is already young people wrote. This "educational" gap in its mass looks depressingly. But the concept of their national superiority of belonging to the Muslim religion has already been introduced. What kind of understanding can we talk about? There is only hope for more literate Muslims that they will not allow further religious obscurantism.
  • shinobi
    shinobi 17 August 2013 13: 52
    +2
    It is not a matter of religions, but of systems of values ​​and moral and ethical guidelines that are implanted in the human mass under the guise of religions. As a rule, they have no relation to faith and beliefs. Islamists simply hide behind Islam. And not even by them, but by the interpretation of its foundations self-interest. Human waste is shorter.
  • KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 17 August 2013 13: 57
    +9
    These villains are atrocious because they are not at home. It is not their women and children who suffer. To stop all this - just transfer the war to their territory. Then they will know the price of life, blood and will behave more carefully. Now it’s just maniacs furious from impunity.

    And impunity is "guaranteed" by human fatwas, hadiths of modern Islamist Arabists. Modern Islamists only hide behind Islam. In fact, they distort and make Islam fit their needs. As Kadyrov says, these are shaitans. The Arabs succumbed to the machinations of the shaitan and are now distorting the essence of divine scripture. And all those who support them will burn in hell as apostates. Apostates of Allah. Islam is not equal to Allah. Allah is one. He sent 3 of his words: through Musa, Isa and Muhammad.

    In the past 2 times a new Prophet was sent. Let's see whether this will be the last, as it is said in the Qur'an or whether another one will arrive before the End of the World. Personally, I think it will be more likely the end of the world. Let those who knew about the will of Allah, but did not fulfill them, be punished. And those who did not know, but lived according to the will laid by Allah in the heart of each person, will be rewarded that they did not succumb to the shaitan, even out of ignorance.

    The prophet only conveys the words of God. He is not equal to Allah. Allah did not change his mind. Muhammad remained the same mortal and such an Arab. Allah said that he tried to choose the most worthy to convey his message, but he did not make it his viceroy on Earth. But man is man.
    The first ideal man, Adam could not resist the machinations of shaitan. Can we imagine that the Arabs are saints and that they did NOT distort the words of Allah during these 15 centuries? Not. These are just people. Now they publish their miserable fatwas and commit their miserable courts. They want to fulfill the role of Allah on earth. Modern Islamists imagined themselves to be gods, imagined that some kind of paper with Arabic script is equal to the Words of Allah, which is contained in the heart of every person: they will remain human, humane, do not kill the innocent, do not judge, do not swear, do not think badly, DO NOT TEACH another how to live , do not have their own kind, protect the weak, strives for education - that is, not to be an animal.

    Allah created us as the only intelligent beings. To study, develop, strive for the highest, for the light. He created endless spaces in space for us to master. To be happy, he gave us this whole wonderful world. He gave us arms, legs and so on. But modern Arabs are littered with OIL and MONEY. They want power over people. They no longer understand that the last Tatar lives more correctly for Allah than a lying Arab dreaming of power over the world.

    I hope Allah will send them that fate that they deserve - these monkeys do not deserve human fate.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 17 August 2013 14: 34
      +3
      Quote: KG_patriot_last
      In the past 2 times a new Prophet has been sent. Let's see whether this will be the last, as it is said in the Qur'an or whether another one will arrive before the End of the World.

      Do not hesitate, Mehti will certainly come from the family of the prophet (May His Almighty accelerate his arrival) with the prophet Isa, who are both alive but visible to the human eye !!
  • Professor
    Professor 17 August 2013 14: 46
    -1
    Aleppo ... Two boys, 10-12 years old, are kneeling at the wall of a small, nondescript house. A terrorist in a mask covering his face reads the verdict ... No other participants in this Lynch trial over the children are seen in the video - but they are present behind the scenes. After reading the sentence, the cries of "Allah Akbar" are heard. Shots sound and the boys are dead.


    Killing children is a monstrous crime and can not be justified in any way. However, a lady and her kind have bad terrorists (the ones we are talking about here) and good terrorists "freedom fighters". For example, those who blew up a disco with teenagers or this "hero" who was greeted in Syria at the highest level with all the honors.

    Call this dog Samir Kuntar, and he became famous for capturing the family as a host with the butt of his brain and smashed the head of a two-year-old girl.
    Dani Haran and his daughter Einat were brought by Kuntar and his accomplices to the seashore. A shootout ensued between Israeli police and Palestinian militants on the coast. According to the testimonies of the court and the data of the forensic medical examination prescribed by the court, Kuntar, having discovered that the boat was damaged by shots and they cannot sail away, shot Dani Kharan and threw his body into the sea in front of his daughter, and then killed her, breaking her head butt. In court, the pathologist testified that the girl was killed by blows of a blunt object on the head and parts of her brain were found on the butt of a Kuntar rifle.
    Elena, why are you surprised at the atrocities of scumbags when you yourself respect the same?
    Syrian President received terrorist Samir Kuntar and discussed "resistance" with him

    In November 2008, Syrian President Bashar Assad personally presented Kuntar with the “Badge of Honor”

    PS
    It should be recalled - the legitimate Libyan leader Muammar Al-Gaddafi

    Where is it more legal? Having overthrown the former legitimate power by force, he became a "legitimate ruler" ...
    1. Fin
      Fin 17 August 2013 16: 37
      +4
      Quote: Professor
      However, the lady and others like her have bad terrorists (those we are talking about here) and good terrorists "freedom fighters". For example, those who blew up a disco with teenagers or this "hero" who was greeted in Syria at the highest level with all the honors.

      Did she justify the attack at the disco? Or am I missing something?
      When a pilot presses the "start" button and hits a peaceful object, how is that better, or is he just a soldier who has done his duty? And the generals who gave orders for these shelling and bombing, how are they better? Those that did not kill personally, but remotely? And they are also accepted at the highest level. I am not making excuses for Kuntar. Your heroes are criminals and vice versa.
      Quote: Professor
      Elena, why are you surprised at the atrocities of scumbags when you yourself respect the same?

      Do you think this is natural? For example, I am in shock.
      1. Professor
        Professor 17 August 2013 20: 12
        +1
        Quote: Fin
        Did she justify the attack at the disco? Or am I missing something?

        In her opinion, it was not a terrorist attack, and you will not wait from her to condemn Kuntar's "feat". Suddenly she took water in her mouth. How else? After all, his idol Assad gave him a medal for the brutal murder of a two-year-old girl.

        Quote: Fin
        When a pilot presses the "start" button and hits a peaceful object, how is that better, or is he just a soldier who has done his duty?

        This is called collateral damage or collateral damage, but deliberately cutting out a family with young children the youngest of which was only 9 months in no way can be called collateral damage.

        Quote: Fin
        Do you think this is natural? For example, I am in shock.

        I am no longer in shock. Seen enough and not at that. There is no excuse for the death of children. That's just from Helen’s condemnation of Hezbollah or Hamas you will never hear. For her, they are not terrorists yet. I condemn the death of any child, regardless of who his parents were.
        1. Fin
          Fin 17 August 2013 21: 05
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          After all, he was given a medal for the brutal murder of a two-year-old girl by her idol Assad.

          Have you seen the award presentation? Do you know the facts where?
          Quote: Professor
          This is called collateral damage or collateral damage, but deliberately cutting out a family with young children the youngest of which was only 9 months in no way can be called collateral damage.

          It is unfortunate that there was such a fact. But something tells me that the collateral damage is much greater. And what name was invented instead of murder, what humanists are needed. The main thing is beautiful on the box to sound.
          Quote: Professor
          That's just from Helen's condemnation of Hezbollah or Hamas
          you will never hear.

          From you, their convictions have not been established either. So what is her claim?
          1. Professor
            Professor 17 August 2013 22: 22
            +1
            Quote: Fin
            From you, their convictions have not been established either. So what is her claim?

            For those in the tank: I condemn and do not accept the death of any bastard child on this planet. Is it more intelligible? From the lady of condemnation of Hezbollah or Hamas you will not wait - they do not condemn their own.

            Quote: Fin
            But something tells me that the collateral damage is much greater.

            Do you know what the difference is in killing by negligence and intentional killing?

            Quote: Fin
            Have you seen the award presentation? Do you know the facts where?


            Is there enough state reception of this terrorist or an award leaflet?
            1. Fin
              Fin 17 August 2013 22: 48
              +4
              Quote: Professor
              For those in the tank: I condemn and do not accept the death of any bastard child on this planet. Is it more intelligible? From the lady of condemnation of Hezbollah or Hamas you will not wait - they do not condemn their own.

              Let's give a professor without rudeness. An example of your condemnation of the Israeli (US) military, at least one.
              Quote: Professor
              Do you know what the difference is in killing by negligence and intentional killing?

              I know. And the expression: "inadequate use of force" familiar to you?
              The poor IDF military, they don’t even suspect what might happen when they press the buttons. They always strive not to hit people; in their hearts they are humanists.
              In your opinion, killing at a distance is a make-believe, how is a game?
              Quote: Professor
              Is there enough state reception of this terrorist or an award leaflet?

              I requested this. Everything else is your personal inference.
              1. Professor
                Professor 17 August 2013 23: 02
                -3
                Quote: Fin
                Let's give a professor without rudeness. An example of your condemnation of the Israeli (US) military, at least one.

                No rudeness. I condemn the deaths of each and every child affected by the hands of the Tsahal and the United States. It's all right? Now it’s the lady’s turn to convict Kuntar or mourn the Vogel family. Will we wait?

                Quote: Fin
                I requested this. Everything else is your personal inference.

                Well yes. I drew this photo in Photoshop and forged the news via the link. Do you even google on Kuntar or something, but somehow it turns out inconveniently.
                Kuntar Visits Golan, Gets Syria's Highest Medal
                Will you translate or do you understand? In Arabic, give a reference?
    2. The Indian Joe
      The Indian Joe 17 August 2013 20: 27
      +2
      Professor, could you quote Gromova’s quote, where did she justify the terrorist act at the disco, or where did she justify Kuntar’s crime (did she even know about him?)

      Or do you have this again as with your slanderous accusations of mercenarism, where you are only on the basis of only two of the many signs of a mercenary - that she is a foreigner, and that she receives a salary in Syria, accused her of mercenarism?
      As if any foreign worker can be considered a mercenary, ha ha ha laughing

      Having overthrown by force of arms the former legal authority, he became the "lawful ruler."
      - Well, yes, given that when Gaddafi came to power, he was supported by so many people that not ONE man was killed. Well, his handshake was the Western government (although the opinion of the Western authorities on this issue is negligible).
      1. Professor
        Professor 17 August 2013 20: 45
        0
        Quote: Injun Joe
        Professor, could you quote Gromova’s quote, where did she justify the terrorist act at the disco, or where did she justify Kuntar’s crime (did she even know about him?)

        Where does she justify Hamas? Can. Everyone knew about Kuntar, but she did not. I do not believe it, because he is a national hero in Syria.
        Question: what is stopping her from condemning now?
        Answer: Employers.

        Quote: Injun Joe
        Or do you have this again as with your slanderous accusations of mercenarism

        Tell us fairy tales about the importance of the size of the reward and other your thoughts. let's ask the hero of the occasion: Elena, at whose expense are you doing in Syria? Feel free to share the info. Do you have something to hide?

        Quote: Injun Joe
        Well, yes, given that when Gaddafi came to power, he was supported by so many people that not ONE man was killed. Well, his handshake was the Western government (although the opinion of the Western authorities on this issue is negligible).

        Blah blah blah. Does a group of officers overthrow the legitimate authority by force and become the legitimate authority? laughing
        1. Fin
          Fin 17 August 2013 21: 11
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          Blah blah blah. Does a group of officers overthrow the legitimate authority by force and become the legitimate authority?

          In the most "democratic country" Bush Jr. after repeated recount (a la Churov) in Florida, becomes president for 2 terms laughing .
          1. The Indian Joe
            The Indian Joe 17 August 2013 21: 56
            +2
            This is despite the fact that not only the majority of voters were opposed to Bush, but - before the recount, and according to the film "Fahrenheit 411" banned in America, and most of the electors.
          2. Professor
            Professor 17 August 2013 22: 34
            -3
            Quote: Fin
            In the most "democratic country" Bush Jr. after repeated recount (a la Churov) in Florida, becomes president for 2 terms

            Was it by law? So everything is rakonny! hi
            1. The Indian Joe
              The Indian Joe 17 August 2013 22: 48
              +2
              Was it by law? So everything is rakonny!
              - and what is "Rakonno"? Who is this Rakonno, some kind of Italian, judging by the sound? )))
              Here you are, it means how you talked.

              And didn't you not so long ago attacked President Assad, claiming that he came to power illegally, although the parliament introduced a law specifically for him that lowers the age limit for the president? It means that everything in Syria was "good", wasn't it, Herr Professor?
              1. Professor
                Professor 17 August 2013 23: 08
                -1
                Quote: Injun Joe
                - and what is "Rakonno"? Who is this Rakonno, some kind of Italian, judging by the sound? )))
                Here you are, it means how you talked.

                You are 13 years old boy what are you grabbing for typos? I do not cling to your "talk". Do you have anything to say on the case?

                Quote: Injun Joe
                This means that everything in Syria was "fine", wasn't it, Herr Professor?

                Decided to troll? Call your friends as gers, and here you are obliged to observe the rules of decency.
                1. The Indian Joe
                  The Indian Joe 18 August 2013 22: 20
                  -1
                  What are YOU grasping of typos and mistakes of others, like a thirteen-year-old young man who knows no decencies, and you react so sharply when you have been treated just like you are with others?
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 19 August 2013 08: 09
                    0
                    Quote: Injun Joe
                    What are YOU grasping of typos and mistakes of others, like a thirteen-year-old young man who knows no decencies, and you react so sharply when you have been treated just like you are with others?

                    In slogans, dear, typos are not allowed!
                    1. The Indian Joe
                      The Indian Joe 19 August 2013 10: 36
                      -1
                      Typos are not allowed anywhere. But a person is either condescending to the mistakes of others, or is obliged to himself not to make mistakes at first. And only then cling to the mistakes of others, no matter in the slogans they are or not. I usually NEVER criticize others for violations of style, spelling, or grammar - because I believe that only those who are never mistaken themselves have the right to such criticism. And just to show you this, I stabbed you (which I usually don’t do too) with your typo.
          3. Revolver
            Revolver 17 August 2013 22: 41
            0
            Quote: Fin
            In the most "democratic country" Bush Jr. after repeated recount (a la Churov) in Florida, becomes president for 2 terms

            Do not la la. For the 2nd term, Bush won, as they say, for a clear advantage. But for the 1st term, yes, there were recounts, but not as you say. This is Al Gore, seeing that the difference in votes in Florida is not strongly in favor of Bush, he sought recounts. Well, recounts only widened the gap.
            1. Fin
              Fin 18 August 2013 00: 07
              +1
              I apologize for 1 term. And here is some more democracy:
              From the editors of the WSWS December 21, 2000

              The following article was published on the MSWS English page on December 14, 2000.

              The ruling passed on Tuesday by the US Supreme Court marks a turning point in US history. It makes a fundamental and irrevocable break with democracy and traditional forms of bourgeois legitimacy.

              The court has no precedent. After the elections, in which 100 million people took part, their result was determined by five non-elected judges who passed a court decision by a majority of one vote. A majority of the court halted the recount in Florida with the obvious goal of preventing Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore, who received the majority of the national vote, from confirming that he received the vote in his favor, thereby securing the votes of all electors from that state. Judges stole the election results and threw them at the feet of their Republican ally, George W. Bush. http://www.wsws.org/ru/2000/dez2000/elec-d21.shtml
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 18 August 2013 03: 37
                -1
                Quote: Fin
                The following article was published on the MSWS English page on December 14, 2000.
                I read it back then in English. Are you inclined to take any liberals for the truth? After all, it can be seen with the naked eye that the author is politically engaged, and it is understandable by whom.
                1. Fin
                  Fin 18 August 2013 11: 09
                  +1
                  Quote: Nagan
                  Are you inclined to take any liberals for the truth?

                  Wow, they also don't like liberalists there.
                  Share your experience of how you divide them there into ours and liberals.
        2. The Indian Joe
          The Indian Joe 17 August 2013 21: 49
          +1
          Where does she justify Hamas? Can. Everyone knew about Kuntar, but she did not. I do not believe it, because he is a national hero in Syria.
          - if you can, then I'm waiting for information. And your "I do not believe", "Stanislavsky", is not interesting to anyone and is not proof, I asked for a quote from Gromova, and not your opinion.

          Elena, at whose expense are you doing in Syria?
          - Professor, I tell you again - the fact that a person is a foreigner, or receives a salary in a warring country, does not make him a mercenary. Here an acquaintance of mine left for Pin-Dossia, writes programs for mattress makers. Do you think, as in the case of Elena, that he is a "mercenary"? After all, he, like her, a foreigner, also works for money - and for significantly more than he received in Ukraine.

          Question: what is stopping her from condemning now?
          Answer: Employers.
          - this is just your fabrication, dreamer.

          Tell us fairy tales about the importance of the size of the reward and your other thoughts
          - And this, Mr. Dreamer, is not just a fabrication. In the documents that we quoted to each other, the plain text says that the amount of remuneration has a significant role in whether to recognize a person as a mercenary or not.

          Does a group of officers overthrow the legitimate authority by force and become the legitimate authority?
          - welcome to the real world, bro bully This happens in the world in very, very many places. In general, it was the choice of the LIBYAN people - there was no foreign influence in that coup. Or do you think the government is legitimate only if it is recognized or overthrown, and then it puts its own, the overlord of your country - the United States, and its mongrel from the EU? Well then, I can only shrug - everyone has the right to a personal opinion, and a mistake, or, like you, a mistaken personal opinion tongue
          1. Professor
            Professor 17 August 2013 22: 33
            -3
            Quote: Injun Joe
            Elena, at whose expense are you doing in Syria?

            Actually, nobody asked you here. Question Elena is not beautiful.

            Quote: Injun Joe
            - And this, Mr. Dreamer, is not just a fabrication. In the documents that we quoted to each other, the plain text says that the amount of remuneration has a significant role in whether to recognize a person as a mercenary or not.

            You're lying. A link to the source where it says about the value of the remuneration of a military mercenary in the studio.

            Quote: Injun Joe
            - this is just your fabrication, dreamer.

            This is a harsh fact of life. There will be no judgment from the lips of a lady.

            Quote: Injun Joe
            welcome to the real world bro



            Quote: Injun Joe
            - if you can, then I'm waiting for information. And your "I do not believe", "Stanislavsky", is not interesting to anyone and is not proof, I asked for a quote from Gromova, and not your opinion.

            You do not crucify for "anyone". Nobody gave you a mandate. You are still too young to grovel for "everyone". Please be patient and receive the requested comment. Get ready to make excuses for these pearls further.
            1. The Indian Joe
              The Indian Joe 19 August 2013 10: 49
              0
              "You are not my brother, black-ass" in the title of the video you have uploaded - you know, the derogatory term "black-ass" is more applicable to the Semites, which include the Jews, to whom you belong, Professor, than to the Slavs, to whom I belong. I am not a racist, and I do not divide people according to nations and nationalities, but since YOU started to divide, then I simply MUST clarify who is which of us two wink

              You're lying. A link to the source where it says about the value of the remuneration of a military mercenary in the studio
              - Well, slanderer, I washed you again: http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enc_law/1294/

              The content of the concept of N. was first most fully disclosed in Art. 47 of Additional Protocol 11977 to the Geneva Conventions for the Protection of Victims of War of 1949. This is a person who:
              specially recruited at the scene of hostilities or abroad in order to fight in armed conflict; actually takes part in hostilities, guided mainly by the desire to receive personal benefit in the form of the promised material reward, significantly exceeding the remuneration of a combatant of the same rank and functions included in the personnel of the armed forces of that party: is neither a citizen of a party to the conflict, nor a person permanently residing in the territory controlled by a party to the conflict;

              Returning to the question of whether Gromov’s mercenary, we see that she is not recruited;
              her remuneration (salary) is not significantly higher;
              she permanently resides in the territory controlled by Assad;
              not fighting (no matter how you try to prove that laying out texts on the Web is a form of battle))).

              Teach the materiel, Professor, and may the mind be with you!
              1. Professor
                Professor 19 August 2013 11: 37
                0
                Quote: Injun Joe
                "You are not my brother, black-ass" in the title of the video you have uploaded - you know, the derogatory term "black-ass" is more applicable to the Semites, which include the Jews, to whom you belong, Professor, than to the Slavs, to whom I belong. I am not a racist, and I do not divide people according to nations and nationalities, but since YOU started to divide, then I simply MUST clarify who is which of us two

                You are not racist, you are a dreamer. By the flag on the avatar you determine who is Semitic and who is Slav. I repeat again, you are too young on this site and I have already answered the question of what kind of blood flows in my veins. Be that as it may: you are not my brother to me!

                Quote: Injun Joe
                Well, slanderer, I washed you again: http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enc_law/1294/

                I asked you for the source. To the original of the Geneva Convention, which I have already given you or to the UN definition, and you to me for some Panova V.P. There is not a single word in the original about the size of the reward and it cannot be. Learn materiel and learn to work with documents.

                Quote: Injun Joe
                Returning to the question of whether Gromov’s mercenary, we see that she is not recruited;
                her remuneration (salary) is not significantly higher;
                she permanently resides in the territory controlled by Assad;
                not fighting (no matter how you try to prove that laying out texts on the Web is a form of battle))).

                She receives money for participation in the conflict without being a citizen ("permanently" all mercenaries now live there)? So she is German. Leave the nonsense about the size of the reward to yourself. "Fights"? Again your fiction. There is no such requirement - however materiel. It is enough to take part, and she takes it.

                Quote: Injun Joe
                Teach the materiel, Professor, and may the mind be with you!

                In order to send others to teach materiel, you yourself must at least not much understand it, and this, as we see, is not your case. Find me in the original "the size of the reward" or "fight" and then we will continue our conversation otherwise I will no longer feed.
                1. The Indian Joe
                  The Indian Joe 20 August 2013 00: 28
                  +1
                  Be that as it may: you are not my brother to me!
                  - Professor, relax - all people are brothers! )))

                  I asked you to the source
                  - Why are you not happy with the link to the Law Encyclopedia? What, only a scan of the original signed by the UN Secretary General will suit you? Do not make yourself a clown - copies of documents provided by me, posted on other resources and translated into Russian, are completely authentic to the originals, and they convey the same meaning.

                  Better explain to me why you decided that a person’s compliance with only two signs of a mercenary from the many signs listed in resolutions and conventions makes him a mercenary? I already ask you this several times, but I don’t get a clear answer. There is your speculation and an attempt to trolling.

                  "Fights"? Again your invention. There is no such requirement - however materiel


                  And here is the UN General Assembly Resolution 44/34:

                  Article 1

                  For the purposes of this Convention:

                  1. The term “mercenary” means any person who:

                  (a) Specially recruited locally or abroad in order to fight in armed conflict;
                  - you say there is no word "fight"? Well, well, what did you write there about the materiel?

                  Just take part
                  - where is it written that "it is enough to participate", in what place of the convention? Again your speculations. "To take part" is too vague a wording, and a person who does not carry weapons, does not maintain military equipment, does not repair military buildings, and so on, cannot "take part", this is just your fantasy and invention.

                  Link to relevant resolutions: http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Publications/FactSheet28ru.pdf
                  a mercenary is a face
                  a) specially recruited locally or abroad for
                  having to fight in armed conflict;
                  b) is actually directly involved in
                  military operations;
                  - What, Gromova, creating texts, takes a direct part in the hostilities? And it is she FIGHTING like that, right?))))

                  And, Professor, tie up with trolling. And then you’ll get to the point that you must submit a link to the UN website or the Geneva Conventions in the original language and really require a scan signed by the UN Secretary General - although you and I have already seen more than once that the same documents laid out on other resources are completely identical, and did not bring any evidence that they are somehow distorted. Learn to lose with dignity. And it turns out that I - YOU feed, bon appetit.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 20 August 2013 08: 55
                    0
                    Last time. In the original (and it is in the public domain) there is not a word about the "amount of remuneration", "fight", etc. Left translations and sites are left for amateurs and trolls like you. I will no longer feed you as I do not feed the trolls. hi
                    1. The Indian Joe
                      The Indian Joe 20 August 2013 22: 45
                      0
                      Professor, what about the original? What are the words? I ask you - quote the original (with a link) and give your translation right away - otherwise I do not speak English at your level, since you consider ALL translations "left" (one of the signs of trolling).

                      And I can’t find the original precisely for this reason - I don’t speak the language, in.

                      Come on, Professor, enlighten me - give me the link to the original that you constantly quote with the QUOTE and CORRECT translation (you won’t be offended when I check it with a professional neighbor translator?).

                      And you still have not answered the question that I asked you five times already - where it is indicated that a person is considered a mercenary only by the conformity of two or three signs specified in the relevant resolutions and conventions? Indeed, in your interpretation, ANY foreigner working in Syria and criticizing one of the parties to the conflict can be considered a mercenary - for example, a journalist from England praising the FSA and criticizing Assad.
  • Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 17 August 2013 14: 53
    +3
    Quote: Denis
    Quote: ivshubarin
    The same should be done with human rights defenders protecting them.

    What will the bastards from the UN say to this, they will again mumble, they say they need to figure it out ....

    They don’t even moo, they understand everything, but they will be silent!
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 17 August 2013 15: 41
    +2
    but what should Muslims do with those who have converted from Islam to another religion?
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 17 August 2013 15: 44
      0
      A woman is given 3 days to change her mind, a man is executed on the same day.
      1. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 17 August 2013 15: 46
        +1
        so how to interpret? Is this written in the Koran?
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 17 August 2013 15: 52
          0
          This "hudud" crime is one of the six deeds recorded in the Qur'an. This list also includes theft, riot, adultery, perjury, and drinking.
          1. soldier's grandson
            soldier's grandson 17 August 2013 15: 55
            0
            it turns out that this religion encourages punishment for sins by death
            1. Arabist
              Arabist 17 August 2013 16: 05
              0
              For drinking alcohol - the punishment of 40 lashes, for perjury - 80 lashes and their testimonies are never accepted, except for those who repented and apologized for verily Allah is merciful, for stealing, cutting off his hands, but for example, in Iran, 1 time-fine , 2 times-imprisonment, 3 times-clipping of the right hand (brush), 4 times-life imprisonment. The main punishment in Muslim criminal law is a fine.
  • Ulysses
    Ulysses 17 August 2013 15: 43
    +5
    Not very emotional I'm a man.
    But these must be burned with napalm. like the plague, along with their preachers.
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  • darksoul
    darksoul 17 August 2013 15: 48
    -1
    After such a video ... they’ll fight with these cattle using their own methods .... cut their heads, kill their children who are already shooting at age 12, kill their wives ... cut them clean ... to instill fear that they are not comrades-in-arms, neither alah on earth nor in heaven will help
    1. builder
      builder 17 August 2013 16: 14
      +1
      How will you differ from them? fool
      1. alone
        alone 17 August 2013 16: 52
        +2
        maybe he is one of those?)))
  • darksoul
    darksoul 17 August 2013 16: 23
    +5
    Quote: stroitel
    How will you differ from them? fool


    What are they afraid of? nothing .... because everything is civil with them humanly .... but they didn’t understand and will not understand this .... like the Russian Empire traded with the Caucasus and how it didn’t cajole, so what? they weren’t afraid and not respect .. but the Cossacks who cut their auls .... they tied their heads to horses were afraid they hated respect .... so you can be civilized to turn one second cheek and you can and should immediately be pricked on the vine that's all. .. maybe with children and wives it got flustered but the fact is a fact ... some will turn into suicide bombers others will follow in the footsteps of their father 100% and you feel sorry for them .... I feel sorry for the bee in ... you don’t need to feel sorry for them
    1. builder
      builder 17 August 2013 16: 34
      +2
      cut their heads, kill them children which at age 12 already shoot with AK, kill wives ... cut under a clean ...

      This is what I did not like Vasily.
  • ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 17 August 2013 16: 29
    +2
    So much hatred among people for each other
  • darksoul
    darksoul 17 August 2013 16: 37
    +4
    Quote: stroitel
    This is what I did not like Vasily.


    I agree to go too far ... but after such a video ...... it's not good
    1. builder
      builder 17 August 2013 16: 39
      +3
      I agree to go too far ... but after such a video ...... it's not good
      hi
      1. alone
        alone 17 August 2013 16: 54
        +3
        If you are going to fight them with their methods, you can easily turn into them.
    2. vlasov70
      vlasov70 17 August 2013 17: 52
      +3
      A person’s emotions go wild, which is understandable!
  • michajlo
    michajlo 17 August 2013 16: 43
    +2
    [quote = atalef] [quote = lonely]. But the Amer pastor burns the Koran ... Therefore, I would not raise the question of the normality of one or the other.
    Religion must be in the soul and most importantly, do not interfere with believing others in what they believe. Extremism and extreme movements are present in all religions, this must be fought, because often the abnormality of some is perceived by their associates as the highest manifestation of spirituality. [quote = lonely]. Such pastors must be destroyed on an equal footing with these bearded men who sow religious hatred [/ quote]
    no need to destroy anyone. because violence will only give rise to violence and going underground. ... In general, religion must be separated from the state - God is godly. to Caesar - Caesarean. Start at least with this. [/ Quote]
    Hello dear "atalef"! By the way, how to call you by name?
    I completely agree with your idea, highlighted it with a font, like the others you expressed very correct views.
    All the same, the most important thing for any faith should probably be what you wrote above, faith in Jesus, Allah, I will and others, must be in the soul, in the heart while respecting the right of another to worship another deity! By itself, "pure faith in God" helps a person to survive difficult moments and can help not to stray from the correct human path.

    On the other hand, the use of the idea of ​​faith by any authority, inciting non-believers, people remember from ancient times, both before Christ and after him. Here is the baptism of Russia with the carving of pagans, Old Believers, and in Europe also the killing of pagans, holy bonfires of the Inquisition, the invasion of the Tatars, Turks, the Crusaders' campaigns to the Holy Sepulcher and many other troubles.
    Moreover, for many millennia, all rulers without exception, theologians / theologians all reiterated as one,
    - yes we do We are going to war on others, NOT FOR PROFITS and alien bloodBecause
    - we carry our pure and correct FAITH after all, we will ponder these uncommon "blind" with our God PERSONALLY ...

    Regarding the Wahhabis, as forum users preaching and knowing Islam have corrected me, all the same, it would have been necessary to have MORE truth / explanation, from the Muslims themselves, about the correct interpretation of the Koran, the condemnation by Muslims of these murderers and cannibals (or links to materials).
    Only then will there be no identification or replacement of thousands of fierce Wahhabi enemies with ALL millions of Muslims.
    So far, for me, the Orthodox, all Muslims are on one face, I do not understand the branch and currents of Islam, and I would be grateful to all connoisseurs of Islam what is white and what is black.

    Since the idea is that now some kind of "war dogs" (for money) will begin to kill everyone in a row, starting with the unarmed, while making a cross over himself and proudly showing everyone a cross on his chest,
    because all people will say: Yes it is rabid peasants kill gentiles!
    After all, Muslims or Buddhists, also do not understand Christianity, branches, currents.

    How can we best distinguish believers from fake / "hyenas in sheep's clothing"?
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 17 August 2013 18: 04
      +5
      Quote: michajlo
      , all the same, it would be necessary here for a LOT of truth / explanation, from the Muslims themselves,

      You know, it’s so hard to spread the same thing a hundred times, and the next day someone writes death to Muslims and all Muslims are terrorists1
      you understand inside that this yesterday did not read what you laid out, but it tires!
      1. Force 75
        Force 75 17 August 2013 18: 26
        -1
        And you don’t have to explain anything to anyone. And then I noticed religious topics that really interest you. And the topics where they affect your favorite Turkey.
  • faraon
    faraon 17 August 2013 16: 44
    +2
    Quote: lonely
    Quote: Denis
    the enemies of Islam are fought around the world mostly by non-Muslims


    and who is wetting them in Syria? Buddhists?))) and who are fighting in Yemen with bearded men? dozens of examples can be given. even in Pakistan, the army is fighting with local bearded men


    In the 20th century, national movements began to recede into the background in Bl.Vostok. Religious conflicts turned out to be more powerful, and among them a clash between Sunnis and Shiites.
    The Syrian civil war involving Lebanese Shiites broke out as a result of the struggle between Shiites and Salafists, that is, in fact, Wahhabis.
    Religious wars between Chrestians in the Middle Ages and Christian crusades against Muslims in the holy land seem like minor skirmishes with no more casualties than the bloody bacchanal of modern battles between Sunnis and Shiites. The first such serious battle took place in the Iran-Iraq war. The second is happening now in Syria.
    On Bl. The East is dominated by five important conflicts: Sunites versus Shiites, secular versus religious, (this happens primarily Turkey, Egypt), Iranians versus Arabs, Turks versus Persians, and finally, the struggle for control over oil flows.
    The war in Syria is a reflection of all the above-mentioned conflicts. Syria (as I wrote in my earlier comments) is a leash ground on which there is a war between two branches of Islam, Sunnis and Shiites, between secular and regilious worldviews, between great and regional powers for oil and influence.
    Syria as Iraq and Lebanon is an artificial entity unified by one religion or one nationality. Therefore, Syria, like Iraq and Lebanon, is condemned to bloody chaos. Syria, which kills Syrians, is more than any external enemy, is in not very good relations with its neighbors Israel, Jordan, and Lebanon. (Hezbola is not all Lebanon, but only an illegal armed terrorist group) by former parts of Greater Syria and to which it still claims, with Iraqi Sunnis and Turkey. Syria The only ally of Iran in the Arab world, but not all of Syria, but only part of it .Life of the Allavite regime of Assad is supported by the Russian and Persian empires.
    Here is a brief analytical review of the situation of Syria on the world stage
    1. atalef
      atalef 17 August 2013 17: 06
      +1
      Quote: faraon
      Here is a brief analytical review of the situation of Syria on the world stage

      Michael !!!!!! Respect! Briefly, it is clear (I hope for everyone) +100500
    2. builder
      builder 17 August 2013 17: 22
      +1
      Middle Ages
    3. Pensioner
      Pensioner 17 August 2013 22: 48
      +1
      Thanks for the clarification. It looks like we had a civil war. White, red, green-anarchists, bandit groups and so on. How many chopped and shot each other. Now Muslims go through the same lesson?