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Astakhov brings to clean water the US State Department

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Recently, the intensity of the discussion of a topic dedicated to the so-called “Dima Yakovlev law”, which entered into force on January 1 of the year 2013, has been somewhat sleeping. Recall that this is Federal Law numbered 272, according to which it is prohibited for persons with a US passport who were involved in human rights violations or crimes against Russian citizens to enter the territory of the Russian Federation. The law says about the arrest of bank assets of US citizens with the above status. However, neither a ban on entry, nor the arrest of assets in Russian banks did not frighten the authorities and the “progressive” public of the United States and Russia, even causing some ridicule in style: I would like to look at US officials who keep money in Sberbank or VTB ... But another situation 272-FZ from 28.12.12 - a provision banning the adoption of Russian children by American citizens - forced the United States and hyperliberals in Russia to sprinkle with saliva.




Today, this topic in the domestic press has practically ceased to be discussed, for the majority of Russian publications in covering relations between the US and Russia have now switched to other trends: Edward Snowden - once, the law banning LGBT propaganda - two. However, the topic with the ban on adoption is not really dissolved in the air. At the very least, our American "partners" are trying to do everything so that the Russian authorities, who accepted and signed the same "law of Dima Yakovlev," won back. And it is not necessary to lose sight of this.

In particular, about two months ago, a corresponding note was sent from the US State Department to the Government of the Russian Federation. In this note, the American side presented a list of 259 Russian orphans who could not be adopted by American citizens after the entry into force of the “Dima Yakovlev law”, although American citizens already seemed to have every chance to adopt them. In addition, the note contains a complaint against the Russian authorities of the following nature: by adopting the “Dima Yakovlev law”, you (the Russian authorities) thereby cause the orphaned 259 children to suffer moral suffering. They say that the children were waiting for this miracle in the form of American adoption, but President Putin with his own hand destroyed all the bright dreams of childhood for a cloudless life in the United States.

The official authorities of Russia could have responded to this American note in writing, but did not do this. Instead of a letter, the ombudsman for child rights Pavel Astakhov was sent to a star-striped country, which was to explain to the American "friends" the Russian vision of this problem. And, apparently, explained.

The meeting with the Russian representative was attended by a truly impressive American delegation. Its membership included representatives of the departments of education, health, migration, Deputy US Secretary of State Dan Russell, Ambassador at Large Susan Jacobs. It was Ms. Jacobs who led the US group in negotiations with Pavel Astakhov. Jacobs herself has a status in the USA that is similar to that associated with Astakhov’s activities in Russia, that is, she oversees the protection of the rights of the child.

Susan Jacobs asked the ombudsman for children in Russia to clarify how to deal with 259 Russian children who were never able to go for adoption in the United States, as a result of which they allegedly suffered serious moral trauma.

As an introduction to his answer, Pavel Astakhov showed a list of these orphaned children. From this list, it means that over 240 Russian children who were supposed to go to the United States are at a very tender age. The oldest of 240 were born in 2010, the vast majority of 2011 and 2012 were born. If we consider that these children could see their potential adoptive parents only before the onset of January 2013, and even then not more than a couple of times, it becomes unclear what kind of moral trauma we are talking about. Can a six-month-old or one-year-old child get a moral trauma from the fact that he was not given into the hands of an outside gentleman whom he saw while in his bed no more than twice in his life. The answer is obvious.

Pavel Astakhov noted that there are several children older than 5 in the list who, hypothetically, could have experienced some kind of negative feeling from not being sent for adoption in the US, but were unlikely to have experienced it since these children a few months ago adopted inside of Russia. According to information from the ombudsman for children, the total number of children adopted by Russian citizens (of those 259 whose names are on the American list) was 116 - at the beginning of August 2013. At the same time, Astakhov makes it clear that adoption, as some gentlemen and ladies believe, did not take place under the dictation of the Kremlin - they say, to adopt immediately, if only the Americans would not get ...

You know, if there was such an order, in the Minobra inquiry it would not be 116, but 259 children's names would be. Or you do not believe in the "vertical"?
- with a share of irony says Astakhov in his interview.

Understanding that with the “moral torments” of Russian children got into a puddle, representatives of the American host at a meeting with Astakhov handed him a list of all Russian orphans adopted by the United States in recent years. The list was 61625 surnames. With this list, the Americans set themselves the task of killing two birds with one stone: first, to show the Russian side that they are ready for a full exchange of information on adopted children, and second, to demonstrate that the United States adopted Russian children in a truly mass scale, and all cases of death and torture of the adopted are rare, and therefore it is hardly worth paying attention to them.

However, a double blow to Russia in this case did not work either. The fact is that the American side was honored to provide such a list for some reason exactly after the Russian side blocked its access to orphans. Is it too late? .. This time. And also (and Pavel Astakhov personally indicated this) the submitted list of 61625 Russian children adopted by Americans is just the tip of the iceberg, and that the American side is hiding data on thousands of young Russians who went to the United States for rest or training at one time in this country, listening to the words of the “kind uncles and aunts” that it is not necessary to return to Russia. These are two.

As evidence that minor citizens of Russia and other CIS countries were illegally detained and held in the United States, Pavel Astakhov cited the example of a personal conversation with a representative of the Supreme Court of the United States recently held. He, having opened his heart, said that he himself raised in his family a girl from Ukraine who was in the USA without any documents.

Astakhov says that if a representative of the judiciary (servant of the law) is on the path of violating international law, is it worth judging ordinary Americans? Moreover, in such cases with illegally "adopted" children it is absolutely impossible to trace their further fate, and therefore it is not a fact that such children will not fall into the American asocial environment, having escaped from the Russian asocial environment. Shilo on soap ... Only for the last month, according to the ombudsman for children’s rights, 5 cases of illegal presence of Russian children in the USA have been revealed.
Let us digress from Astakhov’s conversation with representatives of the State Department, who are anxious about the Russian authorities banning the adoption of children by American citizens, and turn to the statistical data characterizing the American system of adoption. In particular, at the end of 2012, Russia already had 33 offices of American organizations of a commercial nature, which provided services for the direct sale of Russian children to American citizens. In other words, 33 offices took money to solve the problem of adopting a Russian child in the United States. Here are some examples:

The representation of the corporation "Edopshen Opshens" headed by Svetlana Buchmanova (Moscow), the corporation itself is headed by a US citizen of Russian origin, Natalia Mishina;

The representative office of the Children Home Sesaiti & Family Services Company, headed by Oleg Klimkovsky (Moscow), is headed by a certain lady with a distinguished name and surname - Madonna King;

The representative office of Happy Family International Center Inc. headed by Lyudmila Babich (Moscow), the organization itself is headed by Natalia Shaginyan (a US citizen who transferred to the States from the CIS).

If you continue this list, then there will be a lot of offices in it that are headed by immigrants from the former USSR who decided to open a profitable business in the United States to adopt Russian orphans.

And if we take into account that on average commercial adoption in Russia of a Russian child costs 15000 dollars, then by multiplying this amount by the adopted young Russians adopted by the State Department for 61625, we get a huge amount of almost a billion dollars. And this is only from the adoptive parents, and this is only obtained from legally adopted children, and not those who were actually taken by deception to the United States, but they left it there (remember Astakhov’s claims).

It becomes clear that American authorities are interested in Russian adoption by American citizens, because the tax revenues from the 33-x office branches, which settled in Russia at the time, are more than impressive. Business! That is, the State Department does not care about orphans from Russia, but about the benefit - about a sharp decline in revenues after the adoption of the “Dima Yakovlev law” in the Russian Federation.
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  1. vietnam7
    vietnam7 15 August 2013 07: 25 New
    61
    it’s good that 259 Russian children did not see the “American miracle”
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 15 August 2013 07: 42 New
      47

      Like, the children were waiting for this miracle in the form of an American adoption, but President Putin ruined all his rainbow-colored childhood dreams of a cloudless life in the United States with his own hand.

      Russian authorities could respond to this American note in writing, but they did not.


      Inspired by:



      The answer of Zaporozhtsev to Mohammed IV

      Zaporizhzhya Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

      You, the Sultan, are damned Turkish, and the damned damn brother and comrade, Lucifer himself secretary. What the hell are you a knight when you don't kill a hedgehog with your bare ass? The devil eats, and your army devours. You will not, you son of a bitch, have sons of Christian beneath you, we are not afraid of your troops, we will fight with you with land and water, spread your mother.

      You are the Babylonian cook, the Macedonian chariot, the Jerusalem brewer, the Alexandrian goat, the Greater and Lesser Egypt of the swineherd, the Armenian thief, the Tatar sagaidak, the Kamenets executioner, the whole world and highlight, the very grandson of our grandson and our hook. You are a pig face, a mare’s asshole, a butcher’s dog, an unbaptized forehead, your mother ***.

      That's how the Cossacks answered you, puffy. You won’t even be pigs at the mouth of Christians. This ends, because we don’t know the numbers and we don’t have a calendar, a month in the sky, a year in the book, and we have a day like ours, for that we kiss our ass!

      Signed: Koshey ataman Ivan Sirko with the whole camp Zaporizhzhya


      1. Very old
        Very old 15 August 2013 09: 26 New
        15
        I’m rereading it once again, REMARK
        1. Dimon simfer
          Dimon simfer 15 August 2013 11: 05 New
          +9
          PRAISE, Americans fucking !!!
      2. mole
        mole 15 August 2013 11: 46 New
        +5
        The answer of Zaporozhtsev to Mohammed IV

        Thank you! good laughing laughinglaughinglaughinglaughinglaughinglaughinglaughing
      3. vostok1982
        vostok1982 15 August 2013 15: 17 New
        +6
        They say Stalin often read a letter to comrades from the Politburo))))
    2. fartfraer
      fartfraer 15 August 2013 07: 43 New
      21
      it’s bad that the law was adopted only after the “Magnitsky list.” It was necessary before, but so far the Americans did not touch our officials, their children’s fate was not very interested.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 15 August 2013 09: 08 New
        +8
        Quote: ..
        Astakhov brings to clean water the US State Department


        Serdyukov would bring, legs would bow to the whole country
        1. DEMENTIY
          DEMENTIY 15 August 2013 09: 43 New
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          Astakhov brings to clean water the US State Department
          _____________________________________________________________________________

          Astakhov, for me, it was enough to remind the gentlemen of the Declaration of the Rights of the Child as much as the 1959 year of birth, which the United States, along with the true democracy of Somalia, was not entitled to sign!
          1. 53-Sciborskiy
            53-Sciborskiy 15 August 2013 11: 29 New
            32
            Son asks father:
            - Dad, what is "American foreign policy"?
            Father with all the dope charges him in the neck.
            - For what, dad ?!
            “I suspect you stole 50 bucks from me.”
            - But I did not do it !!!
            - Shut up and give back, and the same amount for moral damage!
            “But you haven’t proved anything yet!”
            - This is what, son, is the essence of "American foreign policy."
        2. Taidrem
          Taidrem 15 August 2013 14: 17 New
          +3
          Astakhov on the rights of children and not on the rights of defense and economics, in short, is not in his competence, as Putin said, everyone should go about their own business and not get into other people's. In short, it is not in his competence.
          1. Very old
            Very old 15 August 2013 20: 37 New
            +1
            Andrey, everything is in our competence, as for Russia. We are either there or we are not. Accept and so on ...
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 August 2013 09: 11 New
      13
      Everything is true and correct, we have been frankly lately sending all questions to hell, BUT some on the site with the stubbornness of rams continue to write that Putin is a western rival, and our government is dancing to the tune of the United States. Where is this dance ?????
      1. yak69
        yak69 15 August 2013 11: 00 New
        -24
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Putin is a western rival, and our government is dancing to the tune of the United States. Where is this dance ?????

        And you take a closer look and see who is dancing to the American pipe in our Government of the Russian Federation and think WHO appoints them to the Government of the Russian Federation! This time.
        Putin shouted or not a shamer, but the fact that popular interests for him in twenty-fifth place is obvious. But he sends amers not because he is a patriot of Russia, but because he quarreled with amers and wants to be an independent master in Russia, and really does not want to be hanged like S. Hussein, torn to pieces like Gaddafi, or suddenly dead like Milosevic. These are two.
        But now, it’s not easier for the Russian people from all this. Yes, and our orphans too.
        Has the situation in orphanages improved or has it become easier for our citizens to adopt children? Or benefits for large families and host families have grown dramatically?
        By and large, all these political games of Putin do not greatly improve our Russian life.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 15 August 2013 11: 37 New
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          Quote: yak69
          Putin's shamer or non-shamer

          - The name of the President of the Russian Federation is written with a capital letter. This is not only a certain personality, it is an OFFICIAL Official of the state, whose patriot you are positioning yourself. This is a raz. Two- - I don’t believe in your flag, because your data, sorry, vyser, sorry again, one in one repeats all those vyseri that are printed on the website of Echo of Moscow and on the site of Grani.ru, that is, marsh-liberal hamsters. And do not here "I do not belong to them!" and even "I hate them myself!". They are judged not by assurances, but by the fact that you have already posted, and you posted the screw-hamster muck word for word and exactly according to the hamster instructions.
          And third, Mr. Good, no president is obligated to improve your personal well-being. Your personal well-being is your personal prerogative and your personal concern. The President is obliged to create conditions for your given concern to be successfully implemented. That is - socio-economic stability, clear rules of the game in the economy (what is forbidden, what is allowed, how and how much to pay taxes and other), protection from all kinds of reptiles like terrorists, infrastructure development of the state, reduction of corruption and so on. Why is Putin not fulfilling his duties? Call it. We know everything about corruption, but we also know that it has not been defeated anywhere.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 15 August 2013 11: 58 New
            +6
            Quote: yak69
            Yes, and our orphans too. Has the situation in children's homes improved or has it become easier for our citizens to adopt children?

            - there for many years a system has already been created that you’ll break a damn right away, simply by order of the President. The corruption scheme, in the fight against which the authorities and Putin personally have very mediocre successes ... Although even the governors have been trying and detaining recently, rather than being afraid. The governor in the neighborhood of Yaroslavl will do as he does, and as for his colleague-neighbor, such as, "DID NOT MAKE YOUR BUSINESS!". That's it, they are not afraid in real life! They don’t try on themselves!
            And according to the corruption scheme in adoption - imagine, you are the director of the Baby House. For each child "fused" in the USA, several thousand cu are assigned to you. And for each adopted by the Russian family - nothing, besides the headache, for you, as the director, are also obligated to monitor his fate and is everything normal for the adopted one?
            What will you do in this situation? Yes, everything that would complicate the adoption of Russian families and everything that would facilitate amers. And the decree of the President of the Russian Federation (having the force of law) that it would be the other way around, I will VERY EASY to supplement the BY-LAW ACT - such as “enforcing this decree”, and then everything that this decree would lose its force laughing And when a presidential aide or someone else’s thread pokes me at the fact that my By-Laws are sending out a Decree, I’ll quickly justify him that there is no emasculation, and all that I propose is necessary due to the following and then mine rationale. And I’ll end up insisting on my point of view!
            Ok, they’ll remove me, appoint my deputy, and so what? Yes, he is exactly the same, only somewhere softer, and somewhere harder, he will do the same!
            There is already a system, systemic corruption, everything, it is already very difficult for administrative affairs to solve all this. Need SPECIAL OPERATION! That is, with the study and other things. Sorry, adoption of children is not a matter of primary importance. Special operation is required for foreign policy issues, in particular in the Syrian issue. Corruption in the highest echelons of power. Real rearmament of the Army. Yes, a bunch of much more important issues, and when the hands reach a serious solution to the issue of corruption in the adoption of orphans - the devil knows.
            Yes, Yak-69, "I want everything at once"! happens only in the pose that you are hinting at in your nickname, in such matters it takes time and careful study.
            1. yak69
              yak69 15 August 2013 22: 36 New
              -5
              Quote: aksakal
              Yes, Yak-69, "I want everything at once"! happens only in the pose that you are hinting at in your nickname, in such matters it takes time and careful study.

              A hungry kuma has bread on his mind. So you, everywhere you seem to pose laughing You need to be more solid.
              Regarding "I want everything at once," more than an untenable remark - 13 years in power !!! Take a look back and see how much our grandfathers managed in such a time. Even if you simply take advantage of their experience, without inventing anything, and then you can roll mountains - all recipes are known.
              Regarding hardware work, give lectures to your friends - I have 27 years of experience in managerial economic and hardware work! And how is the state machine arranged? I can still give you lectures.
              I do not want to continue this argument. You think that Putin is good, your right. For me, he is a traitor and mediocrity.
              Basta!

              Sorry if I was harsh.
              hi
              1. alexng
                alexng 20 August 2013 16: 10 New
                0
                And please answer: how much time, or rather years, it took to rebuild the country after the devastation of 1917 year? The same thing happened in the 1991 year, but it was destroyed before the 2000 year. So do not fool your head. It's not nice to juggle and pull everything by the ears. It takes 25 years to recover after such a devastation in any, I repeat in any country (bare or dry world statistics). And no one in the history of mankind was able to bring the country to normal stability in the economy and social sphere before this deadline.
                By the way, after the Second World War, the vast part of the country was not affected by the war (by destruction from hostilities), and only its European part was damaged, and it was partially, and for comparison it will not work - different scales. So measure everything in order to cross over someone in any question. Do not be like swamp scum. hi
          2. Dilshat
            Dilshat 15 August 2013 13: 35 New
            +5
            And at the expense of the United States, Russia’s natural enemy in nature. And it will harm Russia until its last breath until it dies. I don’t like Echo of Moscow and the other fifth column, but it’s embarrassing - Dima Yakovlev’s Law was adopted immediately after Magnitsky’s Law. Right after financial assets of senior Russian officials in the United States were under attack! And what was not seen before child trafficking in Russia? As for the adoption of the law, about 65000 children were sent to the United States! And generally, I do not think that the Russian leadership is pursuing Russia's national interests.
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            3. Theophanes
              Theophanes 15 August 2013 17: 06 New
              +5
              England is an old, proven, loyal enemy of Russia, and only then pidos-americos!
            4. zardoz
              zardoz 12 September 2013 18: 49 New
              0
              The problem is probably seen, or rather has long been seen. This question has been discussed for several years and the impetus for action was the act of Magnitsky. If they had done before this act, they would have received an answer in which thread the other direction. And here the amers made disgusting (moreover, "disgusting" into the hands of Russia), the Russians responded with disgust and the amers already seem to use nothing to do disgust and increase the intensity of relations more strongly. Those. Pretty smart move - in both cases, a win
          3. yak69
            yak69 15 August 2013 22: 18 New
            -7
            Quote: aksakal
            The name of the President of the Russian Federation is written with a capital letter. This is not only a certain personality, it is an OFFICIAL Official of the state,

            Do you respect Putin? Write his last name with any letter!
            For me it’s bitter radish! laughing
            And if you like to look at the world in pink glasses - look! And continue to lick him the way, this is your right.
            The time will come and he will be responsible for his "activity". Not here, so in the next world, definitely.
            Today is your day - Putinolysis. Continue in the same spirit.
          4. Simon
            Simon 15 August 2013 22: 33 New
            +1
            Yes! Not respecting our president, they do not respect our state, and if they do not respect our state, they do not respect us either.
          5. yak69
            yak69 15 August 2013 22: 45 New
            -4
            Quote: aksakal
            Пthe resident is obliged to create conditions so that your given care would be successfully implemented. That is - socio-economic stability, clear rules of the game in the economy (what is forbidden, what is allowed, how and how much to pay taxes and other), protection from all kinds of reptiles like terrorists, infrastructure development of the state, reduction of corruption and so on. Why is Putin not fulfilling his duties?

            Do you read your comments ?! Where is the logic?!
            You tell me, did he fulfill what you write about ??? !!! If you think so, then I wash my hands and simply ignore your comments.
            If you want to be deceived - be deceived. We’ll summarize later, not yet evening.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 August 2013 15: 08 New
          +3
          Quote: yak69
          Putin shouted or not a shamer, but the fact that national interests for him in twenty-fifth place is obvious

          This is probably some kind of disease you have. Although Putin does it, but you'll write the same thing.
          1. yak69
            yak69 15 August 2013 22: 24 New
            -5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            This is probably some kind of disease you have. Although Putin does it, but you'll write the same thing.

            When he will do business thinking about the national good and not about his own and his camarilla, I will support him with both hands. And as long as he is guided by the interests of his environment, I will speak as it really is.
            And God judge us all.
        3. antibanukurayza
          antibanukurayza 15 August 2013 15: 20 New
          0
          Complain silently ... or in the mirror ... well, or go to America. it’s not like Russia - de (ry) moratia. You will be happy looking at Russian children adopted by amers. or maybe you won’t be happy, but rather cry and be sad in Mother Russia.
        4. Very old
          Very old 15 August 2013 20: 39 New
          0
          DIMA, you (let me on you?) Thought well?
        5. yak69
          yak69 17 August 2013 18: 39 New
          +1
          The minuses to my comments clearly indicate that idolatry and orderly worship, for part of our population, are above objectivity.
          And I note, I do not engage in harassment, but criticized the sovereign authority. Moreover, every day I encounter disgraces in the state administration for my work. I know exactly how the appointments to the highest federal and regional posts occur (by what criteria). And about a lot (what was happening before my eyes), it is simply impossible to write openly. Therefore, I say everywhere: wake up citizens, Putin is a two-faced Janus! He is not worthy to be the president of the Russian Federation.
      2. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 15 August 2013 12: 06 New
        0
        Take your time, schA Smirnov will come and say)
      3. Taidrem
        Taidrem 15 August 2013 14: 20 New
        +1
        Wow agent)) refuses Dolar)) arming the army, puts a veto on Syria all the time)) belittles their leaders at all)) Where did you see such agents)) I forbade their companies to get our oil) Well, I don’t know, I have to be a masochist to keep such an agent))
      4. Tartary
        Tartary 16 August 2013 14: 23 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Everything is true and correct, we have been frankly lately sending all questions to hell, BUT some on the site with the stubbornness of rams continue to write that Putin is a western rival, and our government is dancing to the tune of the United States. Where is this dance ?????

        Alexander, forgive me generously gracious that I slightly oppose you, but I also can’t keep silent ...
        What has changed since those recent times for you personally ??

        What makes you take short (!) Steps in the escort of Esaulov, Tartarii, etc., etc. ???

        Nowhere could I see your recognition in a somewhat biased earlier attitude towards those who, initially present on the site, saw the obvious ...
        Maybe I missed it somewhere - I confess then ... However, in the last year I almost did not read all the comments, even to articles with very relevant topics. Yes, and I do not scrub my personal opinion often - I became lazy, like a walrus on the beach ...

        And yet, Alexander, satisfy my and not only, probably, interest ...
    4. 46bob46
      46bob46 15 August 2013 13: 33 New
      +2
      Which is compared to 61000 children. It is such a feeling that children from Russia went by conveyor to Pindostan. This is 100% for the UK, and the report on the zombie should be started on 1 anal.
    5. starshina78
      starshina78 15 August 2013 21: 33 New
      +1
      That these 259 children did not see the American miracle is good. And has anyone ever been to an orphanage, talked to a child from an orphanage, looked into his eyes? I am sure that almost everyone did not. And this is a cruel thing! I am for every child to have their parents, relatives or adoptive children, if only the child is well, and no matter where he feels good, near Moscow or near Houston. In essence, the ban on the adoption of children in the United States is a banal answer to Magnitsky’s list. And that’s all! And no worries about children, pure politics! You did us poorly, we give you! I do not accept accusations that I betray the interests of Russian children! I am for the interests of Russian children so that they feel good and live happily. What, they say, are killing Russian children there, but they are not killing in Russia? There are enough freaks everywhere. And instead of putting me cons, angrily stigmatizing, like "American hiring", go to the orphanage. and see how the children live there. Example: in the Kostroma region in 2012, children went hungry in orphanages, due to cutbacks in funding, orphanage workers had to bring food from home, ask residents to give them potatoes and bread. Not all houses got the First Channel and bikers (they patronize the Nizhne - Lomovsky orphanage for children with disabilities). In addition to the above, I can supplement with the memories of my cousin. He was in the orphanage by a court decision while his dad and mom pulled the term. they are by no means "pink in color."
      1. zardoz
        zardoz 12 September 2013 18: 57 New
        0
        The problem is that there was uncertainty that they would be happy there :) This problem has been raised for many years without the Magnitsky act.
    6. _Forgiven_
      _Forgiven_ 15 August 2013 22: 48 New
      +1
      Do not speak! Let your nannies! And Slavic children are not fooled to do beyond the hillock, a nursery of blue and sodomy!
  2. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 15 August 2013 07: 42 New
    +3
    That is, the State Department does not care at all about orphans from Russia, but about the benefit - about a sharp decrease in revenues after the adoption of the "Dima Yakovlev Law" in the Russian Federation.

    Heh, the climax laughing So here is where so ..., that is, Uncle Sam rummaged lol
  3. treskoed
    treskoed 15 August 2013 07: 44 New
    13
    It should be a shame for the leaders of the country and the ruling party (EP) for the fact that any foreigners adopt Russian children, and it turns out that the Motherland easily refuses pets, making them doubly orphans - without parents and without the Motherland!
  4. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 15 August 2013 08: 09 New
    0
    Astakhov is never a civil servant, much less a statesman. He is a typical showman of the Russian spill. At the same time, it’s also completely shameless - to PR for orphans and children ... He rode with him when he visited our orphanages and kindergartens. He read his “The Russia without Orphans Program” - delirious chatter for which he asked for 4 billion rubles of budget money, and also read the answer of the relevant federal departments to this “program”, which was absolutely derogatory for a normal civil servant.
    1. KG_patriot_last
      KG_patriot_last 15 August 2013 08: 13 New
      +1
      but I liked the program "Hour of Judgment" winked in any case, it is difficult for a Soviet person to distinguish reality or a show ...
      1. serge-68-68
        serge-68-68 15 August 2013 08: 30 New
        -6
        So Astakhov would continue to act on TV, but defectives would pee. But he wanted to cut the budget. And Pavlik climbed into the civil service. And since he can’t do anything else than the show, he continued dancing with a tambourine. But he danced shitty, and therefore did not give him money. Lawyer ... They generally have very, very specific professional ethics.
      2. Taidrem
        Taidrem 15 August 2013 21: 43 New
        +1
        As William Shakespeare said, "The whole world is a theater and the people in it are actors!" )))
    2. Nayhas
      Nayhas 15 August 2013 08: 28 New
      -2
      Quote: serge-68-68
      He is a typical showman of the Russian spill.

      In the people of such easier called "peacedoorball player". And he’s an unprincipled opportunist, a normal person won’t give such a hand ...
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 August 2013 09: 12 New
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      Quote: serge-68-68
      . At the same time, it’s also completely shameless - to PR for orphans and children ...

      What do you think he pulled himself there, received an order and went. Astakhov represents the state and no less.
      1. serge-68-68
        serge-68-68 15 August 2013 09: 19 New
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        Would you even read the posts carefully ...
        There is such a good expression: "do good and throw it into the water."
        It is unfortunate that my state is represented by people like Astakhov.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 August 2013 15: 09 New
          +5
          Quote: serge-68-68
          It is unfortunate that my state is represented by people like Astakhov.

          and you would Gaidara or Novodvorskaya yes wink
          1. serge-68-68
            serge-68-68 15 August 2013 17: 59 New
            -1
            Keep your erotic fantasies with you.
            And I would like you to carefully read what I write. Especially for you, I’ll repeat it easier:
            I personally saw P. Astakhov visiting our orphanages. The living conditions of the orphans interested him only insofar as he immediately posted on Twitter those flaws that he managed to see. Hence the showman.
            I personally saw how he performed in the State Duma of the Russian Federation. Hence the talker.
            I personally read his program "Russia without orphans", under which he requested 4 billion of budget money. And I personally read the devastating certificate of the Ministry for this program. Hence - a poor lawyer who does not take the specifics of the direction that he got.
            For the Russian orphans, whom we, just in case, now have more than in the post-war period, he did NOTHING. He is not a professional civil servant. He is a talker and a clown.
            That is why I am sorry that he represents our country in such an important matter as the issues of working with children left without parental care.
  5. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 15 August 2013 08: 15 New
    +8
    hi ... you (the Russian authorities) thereby force the mentioned 259 orphans to experience moral distress.- something, what about amer’s "pity the world" public, the amers know how well; that's just about the suffering of Russian children in the American family ...
    With regards to the "law of Dima Yakovlev" - military service officers of the military personnel have the right, without giving any reason, to refuse entry to the territory of the Russian Federation to ANY foreign citizen. So that:"Federal Law No. 272, according to which it is forbidden to enter the territory of the Russian Federation to those persons with an American passport who were involved in the violation of human rights or crimes against Russian citizens." It makes no sense, this is politics, no more ...
  6. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 15 August 2013 09: 06 New
    +2
    The representatives of the State Department probably thought about their moral and material suffering when they wrote the letter!
  7. andru_007
    andru_007 15 August 2013 09: 16 New
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    a list of 61625 Russian children adopted by Americans is just the tip of the iceberg, and that the American side is hiding data on thousands of little Russians

    Think about 61625 children, these are two small towns. These are in the future 61625 young energetic people. Our country is chopped up at the root. Fading America refreshes its blood at our expense, at the expense of our future, the future of our country.
    Well, if these children had a paradise on earth, they would not be taught gay tolerance, they would bring up sodomites. In one program I heard a figure that in America about 5 thousand transplants of children's organs are carried out annually on the black market. It is possible that Russian children are simply taken apart.
    And if you take into account that on average the commercial adoption of a Russian child in the United States costs $ 15000, then multiplying this amount by 61625 adopted by the State Department adopted small Russians, we get a huge amount of almost a billion dollars

    Given that transplant operations cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, it becomes clear the size of this business and why the Americans are so fussed about. It is also worth adding income from child prostitution and pornography to this.
    Do not forget that children from other countries of the former USSR are also exported. Realizing this, it becomes really sad ...
    "The law of Dima Yakovlev" is the first attempt to break the situation! I hope we have enough determination to introduce a complete ban on the adoption of children by foreigners !!!
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  8. Anphy
    Anphy 15 August 2013 09: 18 New
    +6
    P-e-n-dos, as always outraged, if something is done not at their request. Generally overgrown. The practice of adoption abroad should be prohibited AT ALL, not only in the States. In general, I am amazed how it is possible to give so many children abroad with such problems with demography! But Russia is a shame! A country with such resources cannot allocate an amount sufficient to comfortably support its children. After all, with what today's children will grow up, tomorrow will be like that. And it’s doubly a shame for the fact that it also introduces the norms of juvenile justice with a quiet glanders. All these "rights of the child" and other crap, contribute to the fact that more and more moral monsters will grow.
  9. The gentleman
    The gentleman 15 August 2013 09: 21 New
    +2
    all the same, I would like to see the full program of negotiations ... at the same time, there will be "people" who will scream that the state itself does not protect orphans, why not transfer them to the education of a "great country", great citizens ... and if something happens to these children, these same people start shouting that these are the bastards in the west. in any case, I’m sure that gradually the policy is going to take care of the children from whom the parents have turned away.
    P.S.a., in general, I am surprised at one thing, the state gives great opportunities to young families, support, and why all the same refuse ... sorry
  10. goody
    goody 15 August 2013 09: 27 New
    +6
    Strange, an article about how the Americans of our children sell, and make their own smelly money on this, and blame Astakhov ???
  11. Xroft
    Xroft 15 August 2013 09: 30 New
    +2
    Strange perception of people in our people. The official does nothing rushing the loot and rests - a scoundrel at his stake. The official works fulfills his task (which he should do) the villain showman attracts attention ....
  12. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 15 August 2013 09: 30 New
    +9
    I’m not sure that the author’s conclusion (that is, the State Department is not concerned about orphans from Russia at all, but about the benefits - about a sharp decrease in revenues after the adoption of the "Dima Yakovlev Law" in the Russian Federation.) is correct.
    In fact, the US is actively importing WHITE children. only whites, with the rarest exception. They have population growth due to blacks, Mexicans and visitors. And they come mainly black, brown, yellow.
    I am sure that this is the main reason. It is confirmed by the fact that other countries, from where the USA actively adopts children, are also Belorussian.
    1. ariy_t
      ariy_t 15 August 2013 10: 09 New
      +4
      They have too many pederasts and lesbians ... There is no one to give birth ... This is soooo yes
    2. builder
      builder 16 August 2013 20: 11 New
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      22,912,276 - illegal migrants live in the United States;
      584,515 - the same figure, without Mexicans;
      5,026,584 - children born in the USA in order to receive a “residence permit”.
      In fact, the US is actively importing WHITE children. only whites, with the rarest exception
      against the background of Mexicans- a drop in the sea
  13. Powder donut
    Powder donut 15 August 2013 09: 55 New
    0
    How Astakhov annoys me ... brrr as I see it immediately starts to vomit
  14. Combitor
    Combitor 15 August 2013 10: 14 New
    +3
    <August 13, 2013 17:50 | Svetlana Gomzikova
    Bastrykin Eagles are looking for a roof
    Orphanage may be closed for the sake of the cadet school of the Investigative Committee
    Moscow authorities decided to close boarding school No. 55 for orphans and children without parental care. Officials had an urgent need for a school building, which is located in the metropolitan area of ​​Kuzminki on Marshal Chuykov Street. They are going to transfer it to the cadet corps of the Investigative Committee of Russia.
    The students are promised to be “scattered around other orphanages,” and the staff will be reduced, said Denis Pashinkin, chairman of the school’s board of trustees. At the moment, it is almost two hundred people: 98 children aged 4 to 18 years and 100 employees - teachers, educators, nannies, kitchen workers. And this option to solve the problem of orphanhood does not suit any of them>
    If we do not give Russian orphans to Western adoptive parents, then why do we do this in our country? This is not an entire article. The full version is on the Free Press website.
  15. runway
    runway 15 August 2013 10: 27 New
    0
    Oh yes, Astakhov! Ah yes, son of a bitch! (A.S. Pushkin would say). And he attached all our street children with disabilities, and planted a pig for Americans. Still, I solved our problem with street children! Or not?
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer 15 August 2013 10: 41 New
      +1
      if he had solved it, then in Russia there would have been no orphans (in the sense there would have been no orphanages). He does not need to be attributed too much
  16. Nikolaev1950
    Nikolaev1950 15 August 2013 10: 42 New
    0
    The country that lost the war was always paid in the form of indemnity, including by children.
  17. creak
    creak 15 August 2013 10: 45 New
    +3
    "I never forget, the Pittsburgh School of Law has become my second alma mater, and the United States my second homeland" - P. Astakhov about the School of Law of the University of Pittsburgh, which he graduated in 2002. Why not a patriot?
  18. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 15 August 2013 10: 55 New
    -1
    It is necessary to prohibit the adoption of our children not only by Americans, but by all foreigners in general. And until this happens, I am not a supporter of Putin.
  19. deman73
    deman73 15 August 2013 10: 57 New
    +3
    it was high time to cover this shop selling their citizens
  20. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 15 August 2013 11: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: Kovrovsky
    The representatives of the State Department probably thought about their moral and material suffering when they wrote the letter!

    Judging by the conclusions of the article, they rather took care of neglecting their pockets - the lave stopped coming, how could it be ?!
  21. Pensioner
    Pensioner 15 August 2013 11: 32 New
    +4
    In fact, the public has been protesting against the adoption of Russian children by foreigners for a long time, from the late 90s, when the adoption took the form of commerce. At that time, the Internet was not accessible to everyone, and newspapers and magazines were not read by everyone. But this wave of protest arose in the print media more than once. On this wave, television show-lawyer Astakhov made his political career. America in this case is really outraged, since the refusal to the supply of the Russian gene pool breaks their far-fetched plans. Since the 60s, when America was swept by a mass wave of “hippies” propagating freedom of love, alcohol and drug addiction, the birth rate has also decreased. The children born from parents, the hippies, had mostly psychological, mental deviations. This generation, with all sorts of deviations, gave rise to a new generation of the same, if not worse. As a result, the mass degradation of the population, albeit with an external law-abiding and materially socially prosperous. As Zadornov jokes: "Well, stupid!" Therefore, at the highest level in America, it was decided to improve the gene pool of Americans. This adoption program encouraged by all kinds of social measures those Americans who would take up Russian children. They were interested in children from Russia in the first place. Firstly: Russians are a white race. Secondly, their analysts calculated that many of the world's brilliant people they had Russian blood in their roots. Genetics. Therefore, it was the interest in Russian, semi-Russian children from Russia. Mostly they tried to adopt clearly blond and light-eyed children. Even with physical abnormalities. Well, what if the child’s arms or legs are sick ? With medicine and social conditions, it’s not such a difficult problem to care for such a child. The main thing is that this child has Russian blood, genes, mind, soul and Russian spirit with him! Yes, such a child with physical disabilities will be less distracted by everyday life with her primitive interests. And he will put all his genetic advantages of mind and soul into something universal important. To the delight of his American parents and to the glory of America! About such were the plans of the American for his future. And so this reaction to the refusal to adopt Russian children. And all the other arguments are simply political husks, which cover their true goals.
  22. Makarov
    Makarov 15 August 2013 11: 38 New
    +2
    Only children can do legal business (unprintable word) on children .... the whole country of such @ ## @@ #!
  23. Kiliny
    Kiliny 15 August 2013 11: 50 New
    +2
    Here's an example for you, as they say, "a man in his place," arguably laid out everything on the shelves, put partners in a puddle. More to such people! Living would be easier! wink
  24. Pensioner
    Pensioner 15 August 2013 11: 54 New
    +4
    Yes, Astakhov seems to be on the side of orphans. But there is no trust in him precisely because he really doesn’t care about the interests of Russian orphans. If he really believed in his own, Russian, his wife would give birth in Russia! In fact, this is indicative! He allegedly advocates for Russian interests and for Russian children, but considers all cattle-born here in Russia!. And he and his offspring are higher than the rest of the local local Russians — more civilized than any Russian cattle! Therefore, he has the right to choose where to give birth to his wife, in more civilized conditions abroad, to give birth to his offspring! And does this person supposedly protect the interests of children, Russian orphans? Who entrusted him with such post- or fools, or themselves such- and so they relate to Russian orphans, for the sake of only dividends in politics ?!
  25. Pensioner
    Pensioner 15 August 2013 12: 33 New
    +2
    He declared himself even more, in essence, in such statements that he was "breaking through" a joint, agreed idea with R. Kadyrov to give orphans for education in Chechnya. As Astakhov himself stated: "I was convinced that children do not drink in Chechnya do not smoke! "Ay, yay, what moral advantages of education! And what then are these children of Chechen upbringing - will, according to Muslim traditions, deceive, slaughter, kill Giaurov - is that incomprehensible to Astakhov? All the same, Chechnya is a Muslim republic, and in Russia, freedom of faith. Will grown up orphans in Muslim families be free to choose their faith? Who will they grow up and then be the enemies of their genetic relatives, Russians? Why did Astakhov and Kadyrov focus on St. Petersburg orphans? To take control of future citizens of the Russian state with Russian roots and genes, and to re-educate them in advance according to Muslims? After all, it’s not a secret for anyone that it is from St. Petersburg that there is a youth opposition to all kinds of “Gentiles.” Yes, sometimes rudely, sometimes civilized, but it’s coming! Who is he who imagines himself entitled to dispose of orphans? First, let him give all his children to be brought up in Chechnya!
  26. ed65b
    ed65b 15 August 2013 13: 21 New
    +3
    Well done Astakhov, I screwed the reins under the tail. laughing
    1. Pensioner
      Pensioner 15 August 2013 13: 34 New
      -1
      Admire Astakhov further! But then, if you have descendants, let such “Astakhovs” dispose of your descendants from your uprising. It is possible that you are Chechen according to your mood, they will stab you and give your orphan child a family to be brought up according to Chechen traditions? Or American. And your descendant will despise the Russians, because you are possibly Russian, but you are stupid, you bargain with the showman careerist Astakhov.
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    individual 15 August 2013 14: 07 New
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    "It becomes clear that the American authorities are interested in Russian adoption by American citizens, because the tax revenues from the 33 branch offices that once settled in Russia are more than impressive. Business! That is, the State Department doesn’t care about orphans from Russia, but about the benefits. "

    And dividends from office branches were falling into the “swamp” where the toads with white ribbons raised a howl to block the financial flow.
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  • d_trader
    d_trader 15 August 2013 14: 28 New
    +3
    My heart bleeds as I think that a small miracle with smiles and deceitful words lured into a trap from which he would never be able to get out, to understand that no one would help you anymore, and only people around you wanting bad ... How many of these children's eyes were full of horror and the tears that understood that the uncles and aunts in white coats wanted to do something terrible with them? How many of our Slavic children were these fascists and fascist buggers and maniacs ruining? And someone else is trying to whitewash them, representing some sort of saviors. Fear God unreasonable!
  • Pensioner
    Pensioner 15 August 2013 14: 47 New
    -2
    In addition to your site, there are many other sites where all topics are discussed from a different point of view. Including from the economic one. It's no secret that Chechnya is a subsidized republic. A lot of Russian money is also spent on providing pensions for people with disabilities in Chechnya! They in fact, they consider themselves right in receiving Russian subsidies. The fighting in Chechnya is the fault of the Russian occupiers! By
    For this, the Russians and the Russian authorities must pay them pensions for the physical, moral and psychological damage that they inflicted. And their children are born with disabilities, because the Russians carried out "pre-conditioning" and poisoned them! According to the publications of other commentators, it turns out that Russian taxpayers pay pensions almost a third of the population of the inhabitants of Chechnya! And here you are smart guys, well done, you know a lot about how to honor you, but you don’t understand much.
    1. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 15 August 2013 16: 14 New
      0
      Quote: Retired
      The fighting in Chechnya is the fault of the Russian occupiers!


      are you not acher ??? Change the flag!
      1. Pensioner
        Pensioner 15 August 2013 16: 54 New
        -1
        First read what I'm writing about! And do not stupidly take phrases out of context for the sake of your own desire to speak out and "show off" over grandmother's statements. And then, according to your statements, I myself will bring you out into the open! Who are you like that ?!
      2. kotvov
        kotvov 20 August 2013 18: 03 New
        0
        you read it first, and then sprinkle with saliva. correctly the pensioner wrote (wrote) it is being milked, and he is indignant, which is not enough.
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 15 August 2013 14: 51 New
    +4
    Well, what kind of speculation on the children's issue? They cut it to the fullest and it’s not bad, but disassembling Astakhov is not quite a good thing to please those who want to earn money on Russian orphans. It’s all clear that amers from Russia are just genetic material. But in general, giving children abroad is bestiality!
  • dmb
    dmb 15 August 2013 14: 51 New
    +5
    Ah, what a good fellow Astakhov, But for what ... it was necessary to send him to the States at the state expense. All that he told them there. any employee of the embassy of the appropriate level could say. As they already got Astakhov, Kuchereny, Borschevsky. All this lawyer shobla, who rubs against the authorities with zeal for representatives of the LGBT, professes exclusively liberal values, while shouting: “Putin is our President” and, what is most amusing, is popular with grief-patriots shouting the same slogan. Truly; Russia is a country of contrasts.
  • denson06
    denson06 15 August 2013 15: 03 New
    +1
    Quote: Vadivak
    Serdyukov would bring, legs would bow to the whole country

    As some representatives of the old generation say - "Stalin is not there for you ..."))) That would have brought him quickly to clean water ... more precisely, to a clean field))) to the brick wall ... for the last time ...
    1. Pensioner
      Pensioner 15 August 2013 16: 04 New
      -1
      Your own stupid things about the older generation! We, the older generation will die, that’s understandable. But as long as you stupid scoffers will ridicule us, the generation of pensioners, you will ruin your future generation. And your old age will be more terrible than ours! We would at least transmit something and pass it on to those who understand and hear the gnas. And what can you pass on to new generations? Indeed, people like you, scumbags, should be deduced from your own words: "in a pure field or against a wall!" And then all Russian boys because of these will go to the services of the Americans or Muslims! Although I’m old, I would have committed the sin of putting someone like you on the wall for the sake of future Russians!
      1. radio operator
        radio operator 16 August 2013 14: 26 New
        0
        Quote: Retired
        Although I’m old, I would have committed the sin of putting someone like you on the wall for the sake of future Russians!

        Lord When will we begin to live humanly?
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  • patriot464
    patriot464 15 August 2013 15: 55 New
    +1
    Not all Americans are equally imprisoned; good people cannot be there. But we cannot take risks.
  • LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 15 August 2013 16: 05 New
    0
    Quote: yak69
    Putin shouted or not a shamer, but the fact that popular interests for him in twenty-fifth place is obvious. And he sends amers not because he is a patriot of Russia, but because he quarreled with amers and wants to be an independent master in Russia, and really does not want to be hanged like S. Hussein, torn to pieces like Gaddafi, or suddenly dead like Milosevic.


    Yes, you, comrade, look straight ahead, an ardent opponent of Vladimir Vladimirovich! What did he do so bad for you ??? Oh stop! I probably realized he didn’t give you an apartment with a car, and he didn’t extend the pipeline! That is all your hatred, huh?

    I strongly doubt that you are RUSSIAN!
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 20 August 2013 18: 12 New
      0
      and you would have no doubt but tried to answer one question, where is the so-called stabilization fund, one more question, why are the nonhumans who destroyed the USSR and carried out criminal privatization under the protection of all of you.
  • michajlo
    michajlo 15 August 2013 16: 06 New
    +2
    Quote: Nikolaev1950
    The country that lost the war was always paid in the form of indemnity, including by children.

    Good afternoon, dear! Nikolaev1950 "! Alas, you are completely right ... sad
    As a loyal senior management and a losing party, we are paying absolutely everyone, not just babies and children. The fact that now the adoption of children from the CIS is widely heard is temporary, until the dust settles ...
    But the fact that few children are born, Slavic (non-Muslim) peoples are dying, is a fact.
    And what is the Russian state and authorities really doing so that the orphanages are not full?
    Does housing, work, and financial support for their mothers and fathers provide?
    I have not heard of this, I only read from time to time the description of the next housing for the "poor" officials and their loved ones, that is, apartments on 2-3 floors and 8-13 rooms ("great martyr" Vasiliev / Serdyukov right hand and ..., for example). sad

    By the way, in that “terrible and impoverished USSR” (the current liberal definition), the adoption of children abroad was NEVER allowed. good
  • fedorovith
    fedorovith 15 August 2013 16: 11 New
    +2
    Their gene pool is so messed up that they have no choice but to bring normal children. A long time ago it was necessary to cover up this business. It didn’t become known yesterday, at least the question was raised years ago, but for some reason it was held under the cloth.
  • michajlo
    michajlo 15 August 2013 16: 18 New
    +3
    Quote: Retired
    In fact, the public has been protesting against the adoption of Russian children by foreigners for a long time, from the late 90s, when the adoption took the form of commerce. ... But this wave of protest arose in the print media more than once.On this wave, the television show-lawyer Astakhov made his political career. America in this case is really indignant, sincethe refusal to supply the Russian gene pool breaks their far-fetched plans.Since the 60s ...
    Therefore, at the highest level in America, it was decided to improve the gene pool of Americans. This adoption program encouraged by all sorts of social measures those Americans who would bring up Russian children. They were interested in children from Russia in the first place. First of all: Russians are a white race.Secondly: their analysts calculated that many of the world's brilliant people had Russian blood in their roots. Genetics.Therefore, it is precisely the interest in Russian, semi-Russian children from Russia. Basically, they tried to take clearly blond and light-eyed children for adoption ...
    To the delight of their American parents and the glory of America! Around these were the plans of the American for his future. And so this reaction to the refusal to adopt Russian children. And all the other arguments are simply political husks, which cover their true goals.
    Quote: Retired
    Your own stupid things about the older generation! We, the older generation will die - this is understandable. But for nowAs you stupid scoffers will relate to us, to the generation of pensioners, you will ruin your future generation.And your old age will be ours is more terrible!
    We have at least transmitted something and are passing it on to those who understand and hear us.

    And what can you pass on to new generations?
    Indeed, the such as you mockers-idiots- must be deduced from your own words: "in a clean field or against the wall!" And then all Russian boys because of these will go to the services of the Americans or Muslims!
    Although I’m old, I would have committed the sin of putting someone like you on the wall for the sake of future Russians!

    Good afternoon, dear "Pensioner"! Nice to read your comments, the soul rejoices but the fact that offended youth TODAY will not understand you or us elders, it’s not a problem, with time then, the very life of the brain will correct them!
    I will be honored to familiarize yourself with your new comments! good
  • Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 15 August 2013 17: 09 New
    +1
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  • Pensioner
    Pensioner 15 August 2013 17: 13 New
    +3
    Since I’m a grandmother, don’t expect abstruse comments from me. I’ll be purely everyday. Any of your political, military, economic and other “blah blah blah” calculations, I’ll just “illuminate” from a everyday point of view. and it will be useful. In Russian fairy tales, of course, the Baba Yaga scared everyone. But she did good fellows and red girls, she showed the way.
  • yury-xnumx
    yury-xnumx 15 August 2013 18: 50 New
    +3
    The Presidential Ombudsman for Children under the President of Russia and one of the main supporters of the “Dima Yakovlev Law,” a member of United Russia, Pavel Astakhov, graduated from law school at the University of Pittsburgh. This is how this valiant “fighter against the State Department” recalls: “I never forget that the Pittsburgh School of Law has become my second alma mater, and the United States my second homeland.” Astakhov's eldest son Anton studied at Oxford and at the New York School of Economics. The youngest son, Arseny, was born in a prestigious private hospital in Nice, and he was baptized in an Orthodox church in Cannes.
  • michajlo
    michajlo 15 August 2013 20: 13 New
    +1
    Quote: Retired
    Since I’m a grandmother, don’t expect abstruse comments from me. I’ll be purely everyday. Any of your political, military, economic and other “blah blah blah” calculations, I’ll just “illuminate” from a everyday point of view. and it will be useful. In Russian fairy tales, of course, the Baba Yaga scared everyone. But she did good fellows and red girls, she showed the way.

    Good evening, dear "Pensioner"!
    It’s very good that Internet users like you drop by the VO forum here. Do not be upset that you are just a “grandmother” (as you wrote), and do not be afraid that you are not aware of the technical subtleties, nuances of information technologies or details of military weapons.
    That’s why you’re old and I understand from your state of mind,
    note that many of us are still missing (or let younger people not be offended), or they’ll not get it soon,
    - and this is your everyday experience, multiplied by the wisdom of life, raising children, caring for the family and your parents (when they were with you),
    - Well, the most important thing is that you sincerely want to ADVISE and WARN us younger than you how different it is in life
    - why more often from "beautiful, educated and cute gorlopans" from stands and screens, more harm
    - than from ugly, without zagran. CERTIFICATES AND CERTIFICATES of simple and unpretentious people WITH THE SOUL и the desire to do a great job for the COUNTRY and its People.
    I sure that your simple and intelligible thoughts and advice, many of us will read and only thank you.
    After all, it is now customary for these "as their effective-managers" - even for empty and harmful advice, to first demand MONEY from the questioner.
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 15 August 2013 20: 29 New
    +2
    Must not squander the gene pool of our country. Moreover, give your kids to such "friends" as the United States. What will be the development prospects for a country that is distributing its young generation left and right? The answer is obvious. Russia spends considerable resources in order to stimulate the birth rate, in order for Russian people to live in the vast expanses of our country, and not the Chinese. It is necessary to stop giving their people abroad, except for treatment.
  • Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 15 August 2013 20: 41 New
    +1
    You can’t squander the gene pool of our country. Moreover, give your kids to such "friends" as the United States. What will be the development prospects for a country that is distributing its young generation left and right? The answer is obvious. Russia spends considerable resources in order to stimulate the birth rate, in order for Russian people to live in the vast expanses of our country, and not the Chinese. You need to stop giving your friends abroad, except for treatment


    Ivanovich, I support your word! ... you say everything correctly .... briefly and clearly
  • Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 16 August 2013 06: 37 New
    +2
    Christians die out, Muslims multiply and multiply. Maybe something in religion to fix? Create Committee on Innovation ...
    1. radio operator
      radio operator 16 August 2013 14: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: Michael m
      Christians die out, Muslims breed and multiply

      Liberals degenerate, departing from the spiritual foundations of Christianity.
  • Predator-74
    Predator-74 16 August 2013 10: 39 New
    +2
    All this is very good, of course, which Mr. Astakhov says on behalf of our government, but where were our authorities before, who discerned this problem only now. And I would like to know who will be responsible for the fact that children who are already in the USA are sometimes in poor conditions?
  • gura
    gura 16 August 2013 12: 48 New
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    From Minsk. The Presidential Commissioner for Rights, the eldest child under the President of Russia and one of the main supporters of the "Dima Yakovlev law," a member of United Russia, Pavel Astakhov graduated from law school at the University of Pittsburgh. This is how this valiant “fighter against the State Department” recalls: “I never forget that the Pittsburgh School of Law became my second alma mater and the United States my second homeland.”
    Astakhov's eldest son Anton studied at Oxford and at the New York School of Economics. The youngest son, Arseny, was born in a prestigious private hospital in Nice, and he was baptized in an Orthodox church in Cannes.
    Yeah! Nowhere to put the stigma of the patriotic "Made in USA"!