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The world after Snowden

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The United States "took a pause in relations with Russia," that is, they will not discuss current world problems with it, Obama said in his special Friday speech devoted to Russia. While Lavrov and Shoigu, having discussed these very problems with their American counterparts, left America.


History with Snowden was supposedly the last straw that overwhelmed the state of patience. This is just a good mine in a bad situation, which turned out to be the States "after Snowden." They were supposed to take a break when Snowden got to the Sheremetyevo transit zone in Moscow. But then the Washington Regional Committee was hysterical, and it was not enough for this. Now it has come to the conclusion that you will not take Moscow with arrogance, and the remnants of reason have taken over. Last Friday, Obama voiced them: the United States finally heard Putin’s Munich speech (2007), in which he declared that Russia was returning to the world stage as a great power, and wondered how they would be now.

In general, the attitude to Putin in the Western media has become clearly ambivalent: some continue to denounce him as a “dictator”, others, along with criticism, are called “the Moscow grandmaster”, who, like a schoolboy, drives Obama through the chessboard. This is progress, previously limited to insults. Indeed, Obama seriously loses to our Vladimir Vladimirovich in political lists, but he himself is only partially guilty of this.

Putin is a real president, plenipotentiary, that is, after consulting, he can quickly make decisions, especially if they are fairly obvious. Quite a different position of Obama in the American table of ranks. Who is Obama at all? A modest lawyer who, by the will of fate, has fallen into the presidential chair. Leave the chair - again become a modest lawyer, ex-president. The last real president in America was Kennedy, for which he was killed.

Obama is just a vip-manager, representing politics, let's say, the Washington Regional Committee. Until the gears of this regional committee turn around, Obama is forced to implement a “previously approved plan”, for example, after Snowden returns. Therefore, Obama constantly loses Putin in speed of response to a changing situation, and will continue to lose.

The “Snowden” crisis also showed much more, perhaps it has every chance to go down in history as “sign”. Let us dwell on the bare facts.
Germany canceled the agreement with the United States on the exchange of information, concluded in 1961 year, citing the need to protect "personal data". This is a very polite, but smack of the NSA of the USA, and an obvious Atlantic rift: Germany is hurt by being spied on like in China.

An anti-American jet was revived in Western European public opinion: local intellectuals, like Russia, began to protest against the double standards of the Yankees. Snowden's revelations to the ANB-CIA were voiced by the English Guardian, which is also, as they say, the mouthpiece of some European elites.

Unprecedented for the West is that Snowden was declared a spy, because it turns out that he is a spy for the Guardian newspaper. The forerunner of Snowden, the founder of the site WikiLeaks Julian Assange, in turn, called it "state extremism." In the interests of national security, foreign agents once declared their political opponents to Stalin. Dangerous precedent, but what a twist of fate!

In this situation, Snowden in Moscow becomes like an island of “free America”, its symbol, a world rostrum, while the Washington Regional Committee got “hooked” on Putin: you will inevitably take a pause. Now Washington's mentor tone towards Moscow at any moment can cost him dearly.

The scandalous seizure of the Bolivian president’s plane in search of Snowden also suggests that the CIA has no serious informants in Moscow, and the Kremlin is impenetrable to it. The CIA acted blindly and failed. Less noticed that the game of cat and mouse: catch Snowden - had a continuation.

Immediately after the landing of the Bolivian liner, one of the Cuban flights of Aeroflot unexpectedly changed the route: Moscow seems to have slipped it to the Americans for the Bolivian take, but, having just burned themselves, they decided not to take any more risks.

Putin’s anti-gay anti-gay law, especially because it led to a “human rights campaign” against Moscow led by Obama (“No one is more offended than me by some laws against gays and lesbians adopted in Russia,” the US president said ) really splits the western world. The best of his "brains" are beginning to look at Moscow with hope: "We need our own Putin" - say the western "dissenters", as it were, to peak the bog motto "Russia without Putin." Gay parades are not as harmless as they are represented: the parades are conducted by the winners, and the Europeans who have not lost their common sense understand this.

In general, homosexual paranoia in the West is an alarming sign that it has come to the point of complete decomposition, the primitive power of instincts, followed, as a rule, by some kind of “new order”, perhaps the NSA CIA electronic matrix. Such a "fight against terrorism" is easy to extend to anything, especially snowden.

It seems that Putin is now applying Kutuzov tactics - he allows events to develop in a natural way, only slightly pushing them, in accordance with international law. The United States is acting entirely on the basis of its selfish interests, and this is beginning to cause concern even among American allies. Snowden in Moscow became Putin's trump card in the "human rights information war," the Washington Regional Committee finally realized this, and took a pause.
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  1. domokl
    domokl 13 August 2013 07: 15 New
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    Something I remembered an ancient history ... Once the collapse of the Roman Empire began also with gay and other perversions. The West is cracking more and more. It is cracking both politically and morally. Health-conscious people there understand that something bad is happening, not to the good of society. But they don’t know how to stop it.
    Families collapse, culture collapses, the economy collapses. The foundation of Western society, democracy, collapses. As it turned out, Russia, the stronghold of totalitarianism and dictatorship, as suggested from childhood, is actually much more democratic than the West. Total control over everything and everything for the West is the norm.
    1. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 13 August 2013 08: 02 New
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      Obama is just a vip-manager, representing politics, let's say, the Washington Regional Committee. Until the gears of this regional committee turn around, Obama is forced to implement a “previously approved plan”, for example, after Snowden returns. Therefore, Obama constantly loses Putin in speed of response to a changing situation, and will continue to lose.

      The fact is that this is the NORMAL pace of the US.
      For each even the smallest question, a meeting occurs (miting or, if translated, a meeting).
      And so on all levels. Not just palitic.
      For example, when engineers work in design organizations.
      On an elementary working question, a meeting is going to be held, it will first discuss safety issues in the OFFICE for 30-90 minutes! in particular, the problem of women in hoods ... (This is a real meeting last Monday with one of the largest companies in the United States).
      Then, for 1-1,5 hours, the object on which they gathered is highlighted (summarized) (Why? !! Does anyone really know the number or title of the project ?!).
      After that, the problem is highlighted .... 10-15 minutes for this ...
      AND THEY ARE DISAPPEARING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM WITH WORDS BEFORE MEETING AFTER A WEEK !!!
      The funny thing is, in a week everything will be rebuilt - TB problems in the office, description / object summary / coverage of the options for the problem and the expense for everyone to understand these options and again in a week !!!!

      I understand that this is a terrible offtopic, but it is this offtopic that characterizes the problems in the USA.
      There is no such thing as "related departments" and "resolving issues in the working order".
      1. Blackscorp
        Blackscorp 13 August 2013 08: 18 New
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        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        Putin is a real president, plenipotentiary, that is, having consulted, he can quickly make decisions, especially if they are obvious enough.

        I read somewhere that Putin has a very, very strong team of advisers and analysts, and their names are not known to a wide circle and have never been announced ... and by the way Zhirinovsky, a very clever man by the way, who is one of the most powerful political analysts in Russia (although for many who look only at the wrapper, he is a clown) gives advice to the Kremlin on many issues ...
        1. Forget
          Forget 13 August 2013 10: 33 New
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          yes agree Zhirinovsky thinks well ..
          1. eplewke
            eplewke 13 August 2013 11: 17 New
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            Zhirinovsky always knows how painful it is to prick a political opponent! He is always lowered, like a chain dog, when someone needs to dunk his head in a bucket. And his epotage covers his true political influence ... He is certainly a good actor!
    2. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 13 August 2013 09: 00 New
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      Quote: domokl
      Once the collapse of the Roman Empire also began with gay and other perversions.

      In short, all through the ass laughing
    3. Scoun
      Scoun 13 August 2013 10: 28 New
      +3
      Quote: domokl
      Once the collapse of the Roman Empire began also with gay and other perversions. The West is cracking more and more. It is cracking both politically and morally.

      And the saddest thing is that Europe has already passed such a path to the abyss ... that without blood it can no longer be cleansed, vices have penetrated so deeply into power, the church and society that they just won't give up their positions. What can I say, if the church is approved by LGBT people, parliament and presidents, if high-ranking pedophiles are protected by those who should pursue them ...
      PS
      For me personally, the "director" Mikhalkov ceased to exist when he began to defend Polansky (if anyone remembers, on charges of pedophilia)
      - This is some kind of nonsense! - Outraged long-time friend Polanski director Nikita Mikhalkov. - Roman completely paid off this girl, they have already solved this issue. Of course, it will be a pity if this ingenious man is sent to prison.
    4. Artyom
      Artyom 13 August 2013 11: 31 New
      +2
      there were precedents before, if only, what happened to the cities of Sad and Gamor are gone, so they still can’t find hi
    5. Sandov
      Sandov 13 August 2013 12: 09 New
      +1
      The last real president in America was Kennedy, for which he was killed.

      Traces lead to the Morgan and other puppeteers. World government however. Read "The Nameless War" - Captain Ramsey, a lot will become clear.
    6. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 13 August 2013 12: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: domokl
      Something I remembered an ancient history ... Once the collapse of the Roman Empire also began with gay and other perversions.


      Cracks but does not crack. A good overall parallel with ancient Rome. In reality, people in America played with sodomy and so on. Hurry, everything would have collapsed there, if the world had a peaceful life of 30-35 years.
    7. Constantine
      Constantine 13 August 2013 12: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: domokl
      Something I remembered an ancient history ... Once the collapse of the Roman Empire began also with gay and other perversions. The West is cracking more and more. It is cracking both politically and morally. Health-conscious people there understand that something bad is happening, not to the good of society. But they don’t know how to stop it.
      Families collapse, culture collapses, the economy collapses. The foundation of Western society, democracy, collapses. As it turned out, Russia, the stronghold of totalitarianism and dictatorship, as suggested from childhood, is actually much more democratic than the West. Total control over everything and everything for the West is the norm.


      I agree. In fact, I have a feeling that now is no less key time in history than when we lost the Cold War smile
    8. Hleb
      Hleb 13 August 2013 12: 54 New
      -3
      Something I remembered an ancient story ... Once the collapse of the Roman Empire also began with gay and other perversions
      heh)) to call the initial reason for the collapse of Imeria and, in particular, the Roman- "gays and other perversions" -smart! Expanded, with analysis and knowledge of the issue! Why break your head there? This is the reason for the fall of Imeria !!! I would also remember the temples of other famous Empires ))
    9. nycsson
      nycsson 13 August 2013 16: 00 New
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      Last Friday, Obama voiced them: the United States finally heard Putin’s Munich speech (2007), in which he said that Russia was returning to the world stage as a great power, and wondered how it would now be.

      Yeah! A power cannot be great without a powerful army and navy. And without a powerful and independent economy. request
    10. nycsson
      nycsson 13 August 2013 16: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: domokl
      Once the collapse of the Roman Empire also began with gay and other perversions.

      About the Byzantine Empire did not read?
    11. fzr1000
      fzr1000 13 August 2013 16: 47 New
      +4
      America has more and more appetites. And with brains and logic, everything is worse.
      - Give out Snowden, otherwise we won’t come to the Olympics! Well, Snowden (suppose) was given out. Next what?
      - Repeal the law against propaganda of homosexuals among children, otherwise we will not come to the Olympics! Suppose canceled.
      - Stop supporting Iran, agree to the bombing of Syria, otherwise we will not come to the Olympics! Well, for the participation of amers in the Olympics and they went for it! Then what?
      Free Hodor, Pusek, Bolt Democrats, in general, all whom we point at, otherwise we will not come to the Olympics? Cancel the sentence to Navalny, make him the president of Russia, Ukraine have some freedom, twelve others, the islands (all) and half Sakhalin of Japan, satisfy the Polish claims, otherwise we won’t come to the Olympics?
      Or maybe right away: Russia unilaterally destroys all nuclear weapons, disbands the army, scraps tanks, ships, planes (scrap metal transfers to Pribolt free of charge as compensation for the occupation), otherwise we won’t come to the Olympics!

      One gets the impression that American politicians and journalists are all McCain today!
      1. As everyone knows
        As everyone knows 14 August 2013 06: 59 New
        +1
        If only one of the politicians of Western Geyropa would say, nodding his head sadly, "today we are all Snowdens." As the trashy old man McCain once said during the Georgian-Abkhaz war, "today we are all Georgians."
    12. 46bob46
      46bob46 15 August 2013 13: 22 New
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      There is an older story - About Sodom and Gomor.
  2. S-200
    S-200 13 August 2013 07: 23 New
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    Snowden is only the first sign of disappointed Western intelligence agents ...
    Without betraying Snowden, Putin made an invitation gesture to many hesitant and doubters like:
    "Welcome to work in Russia!" hi
    "From the Don issue - NO !!" bully
    PS The Washington regional committee will "go crazy" and wipe out, and such agents every day "from the sky lol do not pour in "...
    1. Victor Kamenev
      13 August 2013 08: 43 New
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      Snowden is a breakthrough, and other swallows can fly to China, and even to Germany, where they are already demanding to give shelter to Snowden. It seems that we are living at a critical time: the information war is acquiring a different character, Russia is counterattacking! Who would have thought of this recently!
      1. strannik595
        strannik595 13 August 2013 10: 24 New
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        The scandalous seizure of the Bolivian president’s plane in search of Snowden also indicates that the CIA does not have serious informants in Moscow, and the Kremlin is impenetrable to him.
        ..... and it pleases, it means that it was not in vain that they voted for Putin, Russia experienced many catastrophes and each time it revived with increased power, strength and influence, let's see how the States can get up after a knockdown from a furry animal that creeps up to them and has already glanced to Detroit
      2. nycsson
        nycsson 13 August 2013 16: 06 New
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        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        Snowden is a breakthrough

        Rather, a setup.
  3. Crocodile
    Crocodile 13 August 2013 07: 25 New
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    The scandalous seizure of the Bolivian president’s plane in search of Snowden also indicates that the CIA does not have serious informants in Moscow, and the Kremlin is impenetrable to him. The CIA acted blindly and failed. This is a very beautiful counterintelligence game! In general, the whole story is similar to the classic amer divorce in all respects! Keep it up! May Russia be magnified, may our names disappear!
    1. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 13 August 2013 07: 50 New
      +7
      It was a disa ... A classic disa.
      1. vadson
        vadson 13 August 2013 20: 31 New
        +1
        Well, they were led, as a result, problems in lat America, a scandal around the world
  4. pensioner
    pensioner 13 August 2013 07: 52 New
    +5
    The situation with common sense in Europe is such that already now Putin, if he had such an opportunity, would have easily won the elections in France and Germany. In one gate. Can let him go for a while?
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 13 August 2013 09: 15 New
      0
      IMHO, better forever. Together with his oligarchs, Gref, Medved, Serdyukov and Co. And also with the Oval, Kasparysh and Chubays. And we would have a leader with foreign policy of GDP and domestic policy of Father But. In general, it’s better just Stalin.
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 13 August 2013 19: 09 New
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      I don’t ... I don’t agree - tell me why. And then stick a minus - so we still - how brave. And how to explain about your native, so shy ...
      1. poquello
        poquello 14 August 2013 00: 33 New
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        Quote: retired
        I don’t ... I don’t agree - tell me why. And then stick a minus - so we still - how brave. And how to explain about your native, so shy ...

        Not here. If Sverbet is looking for a suitable topic, you can also imagine that Putin has heeded your advice, get ready and go finish building the BAM. You can get to the station by black taxi for a complete reconstruction.
  5. krot
    krot 13 August 2013 07: 53 New
    +7
    I hope there will be more of these "Snowdens" in the future. There is a good example! Whatever they say about us, our country of free people. (unless freedom is measured by buggers)))
  6. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 13 August 2013 08: 10 New
    +6
    NOTHING WRONG! Lived through the era of "WHAT WILL YOU BE?" Tsar "VECHNOPYANA" ... we will survive the era of "MENOPAUSE"! Let's become stronger! And the authority in the world will be added!
    A good game requires not only desire, but also skill with experience ... a broad outlook and a flexible mind to make quick decisions. But when your head is filled with only the question "DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM GAY-PERVERT", then attempts to declare "SHAH and MAT" fail ... you yourself find yourself in a PATH position ... and you also hear the MAT ... but no longer virtual.
  7. vovan100
    vovan100 13 August 2013 08: 18 New
    +8
    in this world, besides Russia, there is no longer an alternative for the West, some of them are already beginning to understand which way they need to turn, but this is a long and complex process in which most of the participants must mature and many have long understood that America is a cancerous tumor, from which is difficult to get rid of ...
  8. shinobi
    shinobi 13 August 2013 08: 23 New
    +5
    Well, what is it there, the State Department has been fucked up. Now they’ll wash your ass, put on clean and white, and as if nothing had been taken up by the old. Obama will say he has got excited. Well, 20 will try to fill up.
  9. Rus2012
    Rus2012 13 August 2013 08: 24 New
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    Russia returns its original ...
    It's only the beginning!

    Path of Transfiguration of the Fatherland
    The National Strategy of Russia is a set of guidelines for the life of the state as a Great Civilization, embodying the wisdom bequeathed by the ancestors of the Holy Stainless on Heaven, erected on the foundation of centuries-old values ​​with the unconditional priority of the national interests of the free Fatherland and in the prosperity of the whole Nation as a fraternal union of peoples for all time.

    I. Higher Values
    1. Civilization as a spiritual, moral and state-political unity of Nature, Man, People and the State, rooted in the distinctive cultural code of the Nation.
    2. The state and its sovereignty in the implementation of national policies and the realization of national interests, spiritual, cultural, economic and military independence.
    3. The people and their right as a sovereign and the only source of power to express it in harmony and peace directly, including through the supreme council body - Zemsky Sobor.
    4. Man and his natural rights and freedoms, duty and responsibility of a citizen, dignity, value and self-realization of a person, Faith, Hope, Love.
    5. The will of Heaven embodied in the spiritual freedom of the individual, the righteousness of power, human goodness, friendship of peoples, the greatness of the state, Patriotism, Justice, Honor, Conscience.

    II. National interests
    1. The viability of civilization is reproduction of the cultural code, stability and competitiveness, population growth and passionarity, national security and anti-crisis stability.
    2. The prosperity of the state is the Wisdom of the Leader, the effectiveness of power, the industriousness of a citizen, the happiness of the people, the symphony of the spiritual principle and the state of life, law and order and justice.
    3. The welfare of the people - life in Truth and Justice, quality of life at the level of social standards, secured by all the wealth of the Nation, worthy reward for honest work.
    4. Human dignity is self-esteem and honor, service to the Glory of the Motherland with reliance on spiritual, moral, cultural and historical traditions, pride in oneself, the country and people, mental and bodily health.
    5. Peaceful life is the civil unity of the Nation, interethnic and interfaith harmony, love for the Fatherland and neighbor, reverence for parents and the sanctity of family relations, world peace.

    III. National priorities
    1. Power is the vitality of the State, the heroism of the People and the power of the Human Spirit, which ensure our Victory in any global confrontations, conflicts and wars.
    2. Justice is the moral structure of the Five Higher life order: the spiritual is higher than the material, the general is higher than the personal, justice is higher than the law, service is higher than possession, power is higher than property.
    3. Conservation - the multiplication of the nation, overcoming the causes of the reduction of the indigenous population, the elimination of mass poverty, the revival of the national system of education and medical examination.
    4. Culture - the implementation of the strategic role of culture as a value-semantic code and the spiritual and moral foundation for the development of the individual, state and unity of Russian society.
    5. Transfiguration - the mobilization of the mighty will of the People, natural wealth and national treasure to awaken the Fatherland to achieve the spiritual and political ideal - the Kingdom of Truth.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 13 August 2013 08: 25 New
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      continued ...
      IV. Challenges and Threats
      1. Global aggression - information invasion, imposing alien meanings, open advertising of vices, leading to criminalization, alcoholization, anesthesia and debilitation of the population.
      2. The irresponsibility of the authorities is an obstacle to the introduction of a proper system of retribution for the inefficiency of the authorities and, as a result, bureaucratic lawlessness, embezzlement, kickbacks and bribery.
      3. The betrayal of the elites - the prohibitive scale of betrayal, the unconstitutionality of parties in power, the deadly infection of money-grubbing, global economic dependence, the unrighteousness of justice.
      4. Evil evilness - critical distortions of the spiritual and moral nature of man, the establishment of the cult of egoism and violence, consumerism and sodomy, devaluation of the concepts of duty, honor, allegiance to the Fatherland and the oath.
      5. The confusion of the people - the loss of the meaning of life, the loss of the highest national spiritual, cultural and material values, the collapse of their own identities and national historical spaces.

      V. Fighting Vices on the Transfiguration Path
      1. Truth - life organization according to the laws of Justice, Beauty and Harmony, the embodiment of the idea of ​​the Kingdom of Truth as the Holy Union of fraternal countries and peoples of non-Western civilizations.
      2. Service - personal responsibility for the effectiveness of management, public service out of covetousness, verification of officials and deputies on a lie detector, protectionism for the bona fide.
      3. Democracy - the realization through the Zemsky Sobor of the right of the People to exercise power directly in resolving the most important issues of living arrangements and in fair punishment of vices.
      4. Retribution - the inevitability of punishment for traitors, the return of an unjustly taken away from the people national heritage, the eradication of dependence on foreign influence.
      5. Mercy is the forgiveness of the erring and repenting of their unrighteous deeds, ready to serve the ministry to prove allegiance to national interests and voluntarily return the loot.
      1. tttttt
        tttttt 13 August 2013 10: 55 New
        0
        Link to the source, if not difficult, I want to pick up for myself.
      2. poquello
        poquello 14 August 2013 00: 42 New
        +1
        2. Service - personal responsibility for the effectiveness of management, public service out of covetousness

        What is it like? - disinterested civil service
    2. tttttt
      tttttt 13 August 2013 10: 50 New
      0
      Is it Devyatov Andrey Petrovich and Nebopolitika?
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 13 August 2013 16: 59 New
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        Quote: tttttt
        Is it Devyatov Andrey Petrovich and Nebopolitika?

        Well, yes - http://www.peremeny.ru/books/osminog/7940
        see Attachment
    3. nycsson
      nycsson 13 August 2013 16: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: Rus2012
      Path of Transfiguration of the Fatherland

      Now compare what you have uploaded with our reality.
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 13 August 2013 17: 01 New
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        Quote: nycsson
        Now compare what you have uploaded with our reality.

        reality is not happy ...
        But, most importantly, the GOALS are clear !!!
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 13 August 2013 21: 32 New
          -2
          Quote: Rus2012
          But, most importantly, the GOALS are clear !!!

          I wonder who has such goals? Do DAM and GDP? Do not make me laugh! hi
          1. poquello
            poquello 14 August 2013 00: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: nycsson
            Quote: Rus2012
            But, most importantly, the GOALS are clear !!!

            I wonder who has such goals? Do DAM and GDP? Do not make me laugh! hi

            Do you work with them as a confessor? Who has such goals - I will vote for that, if I believe of course. (does not apply to DAM)

            By the way, we are sitting here with three bone powers

            "The punishment in the United States for threatening the life of the president provides for up to 10 years in prison. However, threats on the Internet are still limited to a term of 1 to 3 years in prison, a fine and correctional labor."
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 14 August 2013 15: 30 New
              0
              Quote: poquello
              Do you work with them as a confessor?

              Why do you think so?
              1. poquello
                poquello 14 August 2013 19: 56 New
                +1
                Quote: nycsson
                Quote: poquello
                Do you work with them as a confessor?

                Why do you think so?

                Well, you know all the goals of GDP and DAM. I can only guess from afar, given that people’s actions and goals are not directly related.
  10. darksoul
    darksoul 13 August 2013 08: 40 New
    +4
    And as they wanted, when our requests do they didn’t give anyone out ... they’ll mock me ..... but then they didn’t give out one and that’s all, a panic of hysteria, a break in the relationship .... learn to lose
  11. Krsk
    Krsk 13 August 2013 09: 12 New
    +1
    If the pisses do not stop stupid, then the world will have a real chance to see the ruins of the capitol ...
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 13 August 2013 16: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: KrSk
      If the pisses do not stop stupid, then the world will have a real chance to see the ruins of the capitol ...

      Are there prerequisites for their collapse?
      1. Basil123
        Basil123 13 August 2013 23: 06 New
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        YaRs in response to pro
  12. deman73
    deman73 13 August 2013 09: 39 New
    0
    let the liberals yell, get tired, stop
  13. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 13 August 2013 09: 57 New
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    I used to think differently, but now it seems to me that Putin has groped the "Achilles' heel" of the West and the United States, probably it is really worth not to directly threaten them, because then they will simply go into a defensive defense and yell "About the Red Threat", or rather amicably file the leg chair, here and there, here and there, while not forgetting to assure them of "Eternal friendship" and "Sharing the values ​​of democracy", as practice shows, they simply do not know what to do with such tactics, yelling about the "Red threat" seems to be irrelevant and it's stupid, there seems to be no confrontation and they were confused, but notice how they dashingly jumped into the old saddle, when a hint of confrontation appeared in Syria, here you have both "Russian threat" and "Tyrants and barbarians" in general the Cold War dictionary. Now there is a recession again and they are again in a stupor mumbling something inarticulate. Snowden is like an anvil over the head for them, it should not be so, they think, they are fleeing from the USSR / Russia to the West and telling terrible tales about 110 million people. in the camps (Solozhenitsyn), there should not be any other way around, it’s wrong, I don’t play like that. And when Snowden says that it turns out that the United States is not a knight on a white horse who saved the world from Evil, but an ordinary bandit greedy and deceitful, it's generally out. the fact that we saw them one leg of the chair, and then they themselves grab the saw and begin to vigorously saw the second leg, we wish them good luck.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 13 August 2013 16: 13 New
      -3
      Dear, Standard Oil. what are you writing about 30 years old at least. And we don’t need to retell the radio for us. They will come for you.
    2. poquello
      poquello 14 August 2013 01: 18 New
      +1
      Russian peasants are stubborn, they were told they needed democracy and freedom - and they did it, so the bourgeoisie has nothing to cover. What a nafig "Red threat", the only thing left is to scream that Russia protects children from pedril. The great phrase "Power in justice" is difficult to translate, but one must always strive for this.
  14. morpogr
    morpogr 13 August 2013 10: 02 New
    +4
    We wish America not to slow down the pace of self-destruction and self-isolation. Now, thinking people have where to look at the Western world without pink and blue glasses. And the tendency on the face of Depardieu received citizenship because of his reluctance to pay atrocious taxes and pay the lives of migrants, Snowden as a human rights defender, now it’s the politician’s turn and I think it will be Marie Lee Pene who is poisoned by the liberals of the Tolerasts and gay men.
  15. POMA
    POMA 13 August 2013 10: 18 New
    +1
    The West began to play with its tolerance, now their democracy is slowly moving into the stage of anarchy, and then degradation and the primitive communal tribe or the great Western caliphate. We need to carefully watch how Western society slowly falls into the abyss. To prevent such mistakes. As long as we develop in sound the direction, the main thing is that after the GDP the liberal opposition does not come to power, which looks to the west with aspiration, since in the history of Russia the arrival of liberals has always been associated with its weakening.
  16. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 13 August 2013 10: 59 New
    +2
    This is not "the world after snowden"is" the world during snowden"For all the rehearsals associated with the former employee of the American special services are still far from their full and logical conclusion. And Snowden himself has not yet said his" last word. "And his match in this situation is simply necessary. He must (no! He simply must !) to be. These are the unwritten rules of such games ...
    Like that (in my humble and subjective mind), everything is just beginning. Make yourself comfortable. The action will be continued ...
    1. Victor Kamenev
      13 August 2013 11: 44 New
      +4
      Perhaps you are right. Other, more serious people will soon overshadow Snowden. Snowden revealed, in fact, the secret of Pusinel, gave it to world publicity, but what is happening under the carpet of the Empire of Lies - we still do not know ...
    2. Shkodnick
      Shkodnick 13 August 2013 17: 58 New
      0
      And Snowden himself has not yet said his "last word".
      Here it’s just the same incomprehension ... what will it be? Discrediting in favor of Russia or the United States? It seems like he opened his eyes to the activities of the anab. Having lost the glory of the whistleblower ... and then clap and misinformation are not in our favor the activities of any Russian structures ... I really hope that snowyden is not a decoy duck.
  17. xczszs
    xczszs 13 August 2013 12: 14 New
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    The other day, I accidentally stumbled upon a site for checking fines in the traffic police, and by the way there you can dispute and pay online. For example, for 2 days I challenged 3 fines for a total of about 17 rubles. try it yourself, here is the link to the service - http://krz.ch/mbaza
  18. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 13 August 2013 13: 49 New
    +2
    "No one is offended more than me by certain laws against gays and lesbians adopted in Russia," said the US president ....
  19. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 13 August 2013 14: 29 New
    +2
    Everything is correct. If Snowden hadn't been there, he had to be invented. Now is the time to move on to more decisive action. As O. Bender said: "it's time to touch citizen Koreiko's udder."
  20. Andrey Skokovsky
    Andrey Skokovsky 13 August 2013 14: 38 New
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    I generally have the impression that Snowden is an entirely American project, says too much for it
    part of the less peace-loving amers, frightened by the dynamics of unleashing the war by hawks, just in this way slowed down the US warriors
    Having understood the situation, Russia correctly connected to this operation as much as possible and supported the process of world-wide compromise of warriors,
    in the same way, China could find itself in the place of Russia, but apparently

    so who is really Snowden at the end and it’s not important, but the public opinion and the differences that he created
    PS excuse from the next topic your comment copied
  21. rruvimbenrafail
    rruvimbenrafail 13 August 2013 15: 01 New
    -1
    Putin has a very good or, as a politician, a "bad" trait. He builds personal relationships. It was pleasant for him to communicate with the Bushes, for him America, this is Texas and the cowboys. By the way, this is correct. But Obama is a misunderstanding. Putin wants the VASP members to be at the "helm" in America. This is the natural tendency of a white person. The Snowden game is against Obama only. This is not a game against America. Both the NSA and the CIA have people who understand that the "blackening" States is a future disaster. I think that consultations are continuing ...
  22. rruvimbenrafail
    rruvimbenrafail 13 August 2013 15: 16 New
    +1
    By the way, I really liked Obama's expression about Putin in the next article: “sometimes it seems that Putin looks like he is lounging in an armchair, like a tired schoolboy on the back desk”. Sure. He will go straight for the second term of the presidency, and in general, he will live "forever." And Obama will be replaced by Republicans. Yes, the same McCain. VVP will tell him: "Although you were concussed in Vietnam, and your parachute was taken away. And the Vietnamese are not very good with people ... I know from the Moscow markets. Well, in general, you are a decent person. Hero !!! Let's share the Globe. we will! "
    1. Basil123
      Basil123 13 August 2013 23: 17 New
      0
      not a dictator we need there no no stop
  23. Smirnov Vadim
    Smirnov Vadim 13 August 2013 15: 38 New
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    Comment check
  24. Selendis
    Selendis 13 August 2013 15: 43 New
    +1
    Perhaps it seems to me, but in the process of America's immersion in anarchy and self-degradation, a "hero" may appear who will become a real dictator, perhaps soon, and I'm afraid such a scenario is quite real, this type will be able to squeeze a society, corrupted, decayed, pointing out to him against a certain enemy, as they did in the west before ..
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 13 August 2013 16: 18 New
      0
      (silence in the hall) So, it turns out cU-U-Uper GerRRoy of Russia - Turtle .... TOR-TILLA !!!
      1. rruvimbenrafail
        rruvimbenrafail 13 August 2013 16: 43 New
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        By the way, the tortoise Tortilla in my "childhood" was the first conspiracy theorist when she instructed the wooden Golem ...
    2. rruvimbenrafail
      rruvimbenrafail 13 August 2013 16: 21 New
      -1
      Exactly. Only it will not be a dictator, but a community of dictators, a circle of people (let's call it the "international secret government", it has been so fashionable for 200 years already). All the prerequisites for this are there. Putin's task is to understand - with whom POLITICALLY will have to have relations in America? He has his own sympathies, so he wants to have relationships with the people of the "South", not the "North". They are now in the minority and understand, for a few more years, and it will not be the States, but the current South Africa. But they have "resources" ... Definitely, the Kremlin will support the Republicans in the next elections. This will be seen from our "Teliavive Denia". And the enemy is understandable for amers, in fact, for us. China!
  25. BETELGEUSE
    BETELGEUSE 13 August 2013 16: 11 New
    -1
    soglasen na vse 100% !!!
    1. rruvimbenrafail
      rruvimbenrafail 13 August 2013 16: 50 New
      -1
      Why did Mishiko personally not like the GDP? Unclear. But before Eduard Amvrosievich he was flattering ... And who has done the most disgusting things to the USSR?
  26. solomon
    solomon 13 August 2013 16: 20 New
    +1
    Quote: Victor Kamenev
    Snowden is a breakthrough, and other swallows can fly to China

    China had such an opportunity. He missed him.
  27. rruvimbenrafail
    rruvimbenrafail 13 August 2013 16: 28 New
    +2
    "No one is more offended than I am by some of the anti-gay and lesbian laws adopted in Russia," the US president said .... When the entire "normal" South of the states heard this on the news channels, everyone rushed into the basements after M-kami but not against Russia. And so that not one Obama peddler came to a private site.
  28. rruvimbenrafail
    rruvimbenrafail 13 August 2013 16: 34 New
    +1
    There are two Americas, one NORMAL, the other NORMAL. I know people from the first category, they are decent people, for them Russia is almost the last "stronghold".
    1. clean water
      clean water 13 August 2013 17: 51 New
      -1
      Everything mixed up in the Oblonsky house. There is a people and there is a government whose decisions are not always the will of the people. Although allegedly elected by the people. Simple arithmetic: 1) the threshold for appearing at polling stations; 2) the number of parties participating in the elections (it is beneficial for the ruling party if there are more; 3) the predicted voting results.
      1. rruvimbenrafail
        rruvimbenrafail 13 August 2013 18: 21 New
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        Sure! 45% of those registered who came to the polling stations are already Victory! And 52% of those who came, voted, for example, for Sobyanin already doubly. The more parties, the more "rubbish" in the head. We divide the total 45% by two. It is better for journalists not to use the word "majority"! America has a different system: the electors. There is a struggle between the elites, and in fact we are heading for this. I was pleased with Prokhanov when on the Echo of Moscow he was crucifying for about forty minutes: “How nice and pleasant it is to vote for Putin!”. Well, when the reporter asked him a foolish question: "What if there were fair elections?" Prokhanov, in a fit of his pathos, answered (not literally): "Yes, if they were honest, there would be a Russian dictatorship!"
  29. akv0571
    akv0571 13 August 2013 18: 26 New
    +2
    They are attacking Russia in all directions - even 3.14dorostic involved.
    Another approach would be changed (taking off his pants and point forward)
    In general, I don’t want to insult people of sex-minded inclinations: I agree - they are people too, and must live according to GENERAL LAWS. BUT I am CATEGORALLY AGAINST that 3.14doric and Leysbyan advertising fell on the brains of my children. France after the adoption of gay law, I generally fell below the sewer.
    1. rruvimbenrafail
      rruvimbenrafail 13 August 2013 18: 42 New
      +1
      akv. When I was in school and was a member of the Komsomol, I didn't know who they were? It didn’t even occur to me. There was simply no such topic in principle. Everyone looked after the girls. And when they started broadcasting all over the "box", is it normal, or is it not normal? A theme has appeared. Part of the society got involved in this. This is a question for psychiatrists.
      Here I have enough Bible story about Sodom and Gomorrah.
  30. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 13 August 2013 19: 26 New
    +1
    American politicians are angry, seeing that Russia does not want to go in the wake of US immoral policies. America is tired of the independence of the Russian leadership. She took a break, that is, a pause. And what are they hoping for? The Russians will never repeal anti-Gay law, because he is a normal Russian man. Our country will never give America its dissidents. This will inflict a big blow on the prestige of Russia. So take a break, gentlemen. You apparently need a vacation.
  31. APASUS
    APASUS 13 August 2013 20: 04 New
    +1
    It seems that Putin is using Kutuzov’s tactics now - he allows events to develop naturally, only slightly pushing them, “in accordance with international law”. The United States, however, acts entirely on the basis of its selfish interests, and this is beginning to cause concern even among American allies.

    Putin did not shake hands with Snowden in front of the press and in the style of Khrushchev clamp the West.
    He got such a slap in the face for the USA that the Americans don’t even know what kind of relations with Russia they could sacrifice ................ there are practically no relations!
  32. scorpiosys
    scorpiosys 13 August 2013 21: 43 New
    0
    The end is closer than ever. The crisis of the genre is observed throughout. Judging by the physiognomy, Obama himself is from the minorities, otherwise his sponsors would not have chosen. Putin with the ending in, the same still that shot. The whole world is working stubbornly and in 4 shifts to process irreplaceable natural resources into replenishment for numerous landfills, as if they were afraid not to have time to pump out the last green toilet paper in the form of American "money" from us and take them with us to the coffin. No one wants to work except the Chinese. Pi **** and les ******* will not hold us for people soon. Young people are totally and according to plan - they are dibilizing. Middle and Far and Small Russia are drunk. No goals. Ideas are not there. Progress - window dressing and swindle. Guides are setup. - forever and tuged. Ahead is the darkness and horror of the end. I want to think about the meaning of life, but nothing!
    1. Basil123
      Basil123 13 August 2013 23: 25 New
      0
      here to the psychiatrist belay
  33. Simon
    Simon 13 August 2013 21: 57 New
    +2
    Quote: rruvimbenrafail
    By the way, I really liked Obama's expression about Putin in the next article: “sometimes it seems that Putin looks like he is lounging in an armchair, like a tired schoolboy on the back desk”. Sure. He will go straight for the second term of the presidency, and in general, he will live "forever." And Obama will be replaced by Republicans. Yes, the same McCain. VVP will tell him: "Although you were concussed in Vietnam, and your parachute was taken away. And the Vietnamese are not very good with people ... I know from the Moscow markets. Well, in general, you are a decent person. Hero !!! Let's share the Globe. we will! "
    This suggests that Putin is confident in himself and his affairs, while Obama gives in, does not know what to do. In contact with Putin, he always loses. recourse laughing
  34. Freelancer7
    Freelancer7 14 August 2013 02: 28 New
    0
    It is time for us to feed what Snowden shared with our specials. services. It’s interesting!
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  36. elmonje
    elmonje 14 August 2013 04: 53 New
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    Damn, smart article, well the morning started :)
  37. Internal combustion engine
    Internal combustion engine 14 August 2013 06: 49 New
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    "The Kremlin is impenetrable for the CIA" - ha, ha, ha! Mister author, come down to sinful earth. At one time, the imperialists managed to bribe Soviet ideologically stubborn communists. It's ridiculous to talk about the current liberal traders sitting in the Kremlin.
  38. 400
    400 14 August 2013 17: 30 New
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    All these gay parades and similar events lead to the moral degradation of society, people's values ​​change. It should be like in Soviet times
    all these pi .... for the barbed wire, the prisoners for joy. In general, all this resembles Sodom and Gomorrah, and the end of the United States will be the same as in these cities.