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Everything you wanted to know about my question to Putin

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As many already know, I, as the author of “Made by Us,” visited Seliger and asked Putin a question. I did not announce this trip, because its meaning was precisely in this very question, but whether I asked it or not was unknown. I myself have always been quite cool towards Seliger, and I took the prospect of a trip there without much enthusiasm. But there was no choice, it was the only way to find out the answer to the question that had been worrying me for a long time. This question was repeatedly asked to me by others: "Why the state is not at all engaged in promoting its own achievements. Why the federal media do not show the positive side of what is happening in Russia." I certainly guessed why. But I wanted not to guess, I wanted to know for sure.


Everything you wanted to know about my question to Putin


R. KOVRIGIN: Hello, Vladimir Vladimirovich!

My name is Roman Kovrigin, I am the developer of the Internet project “Made by Us”. We are an online community that solves such an important, complex task: we are trying to rectify the information field created by our media. The fact is that it has such a significant bias towards negative, this is especially connected with Russia. Turn on the TV, open the newspaper, and you will find out that something there drowned, exploded, fell, something stolen, for example.

V. PUTIN: And what, is there a suggestion or a question?

R. KOVRIGIN: We are committed to publishing exactly those newswhich our mass media do not publish, that is, the opening of new industries, the construction of roads, bridges, and so on.

VLADIMIR PUTIN: You will have a non-rated publication, a non-rated publication. Do not earn a lot on this.

R. KOVRIGIN: Probably, but the project is quite popular.

My question is: isn't it time for the state to get involved? There are federal media. In theory, their task is to show an objective side, to talk about Russia objectively. Nobody says that it is necessary to hide problems, to hush up. No, this also needs to be told. But you need to show the other side of the medal.

V. PUTIN: First, of course, it’s great that there are people like you who do this. But I want to mention this. There is a very important thing: if you do it exclusively for the money of the state and with the help of the state, then the credibility of such information will be negligible. That's the whole trick, you know? We must do this talentedly, interestingly, ignite people, involve people in this information and at the same time enjoy minimal support from the state, although this is, of course, a sacred thing. What you are doing is absolutely holy. But the more you receive money from the state, the more you will be glued to any label and the less confidence there will be in this information that you formulate. Let's think about it together.

I will say straight out: I am completely satisfied with the answer of Vladimir Vladimirovich, that is how I understood the logic of the authorities, which could, but do not wish, to influence their own media. That is, such an answer did not surprise me, but I wanted to hear it from the President personally. And I heard a clear and unequivocal answer.

Do I agree with this logic? I do not know. On the one hand, that's right, really, by getting money from an interested party, you are in fact becoming a lobbyist for the interests of this party, that is, you yourself become an interested party. The interested party a priori cannot be objective and have neutral judgments. And an outside observer understands this, referring critically to a lobbyist. This is all true. Meet on clothes.

On the other hand, I cannot accept the obvious consequence. It turns out that the majority of our citizens are not capable of analytical thinking, are not able to separate the wheat from the chaff, and are guided in their judgments not by the essence, not by the facts, they not only meet in clothes, but also escort in clothes, not in mind. If Channel One, for example, talked about new and existing industries, of course, at first this should cause distrust of the "mouthpiece of power." But the production is real, and they exist regardless of who told about them, the First Channel or Echo of Moscow. The viewer must understand this. The media is just a shell, the essence of the information is important. For example, it does not matter to me who finances Izvestia, it is important that their content, which they give, is not credible, simply because it is replete with false and unverifiable facts.

Thus, the President is right or not, first of all, depends on how much the thinking audience of the media in Russia is, how much she is capable of analytical thinking, going beyond stereotypes and independent thinking.

From Putin’s answer, I understood one thing - the authorities are not going to influence the information policy of the federal media, at least this influence will not go beyond the simple requirement: "do not go beyond the bounds of decency."

Now that the financing of our project is swinging, many on the network who heard my question decided that it had some hidden meaning, saying that I hinted Vladimir Vladimirovich that it would be nice to give money to our project. I admit an error: probably the phrase "is it not time for the state to join the work" probably should not have been pronounced, it can be understood in two ways. But there was no hint of the help of SUN in the question, for one simple reason: the decision to finance the project was made long before this meeting, and it has long been a “open secret”. I’ll clarify: only the decision has been made and the bureaucratic procedure for filing the necessary documents is under way, there is no financing itself. Actually, the fact that “Made by Us” is a contender for support was announced a long time ago, and yesterday, despite Putin’s response, this intention was confirmed. So asking for money from Putin simply did not make any sense. On the contrary, Putin’s answer made me think about whether it would be worth taking this help, whether it would not hurt the project, or whether its authority would jeopardize it. I still have no final answer to this question.

Those who regard government funding as a freebie from the sky do not really understand all the problems that fall on their heads in the appendage to money. I don’t know how the NCO’s “Foreign Agents”, which receive grants from abroad, can be much simpler, but in Russia our requirements are very strict. For example, strict financial statements, strict compliance with the estimates, the need to register a legal entity, which in itself adds a lot of problems compared to the commonplace “PI on simplified services”, strict demand for payments to social funds solely from their own income, without the use of grant funds. To whom how, but for me, who does not have any experience in managing a full-fledged company, it's all very difficult.

On the other hand, such financing will allow the project to reach a new level. Remaining social, he will be able to offer the reader more of his own materials, reports from productions, exhibitions, press tours. This is a very expensive part, but also one of the most interesting parts of the project. It’s good when the host pays for the trip, although in this case I’m going from Rostov to Moscow and back for my own. But in Russia there are thousands of enterprises about which I would like to tell, dozens of exhibitions are held a year, where you can often see the products of our enterprises. I would very much like reports from enterprises and exhibitions to be regular; a grant will allow this.

In addition, the grant will allow to conduct an advertising campaign, hire people who can speed up the development of the “Made in Us” platform, as long as I have both server administration and programming and much more related to the technical side of the project, I cope, but another programmer and the sysadmin would not prevent, but on the contrary, would help to do this work faster and better.

If someone thinks that the grant gives some tangible personal benefit, then he is mistaken, in fact that relatively small salary is due to me, as a manager, will spend on expenses not included in the estimate, various consumables, equipment, tax payments, etc. . Maybe I’m just inexperienced in budgeting, but I didn’t think it was right to include such expenses, pointing out only the most costly items that the project itself wouldn’t draw at this stage of development.

But I repeat, doubts about the expediency of financial support from the side, I was worried before, there was no euphoria from such a prospect, on the contrary, there was a painful understanding of the inevitability of side effects: what will outweigh, undoubted benefit or unavoidable harm? And Putin’s response just added oil. And although the work on the preparation of the necessary documents is underway, doubts remain. Maybe you can help me to finally decide, especially since this project is not mine for a long time, but belongs to the whole community, of which I have the honor to be a part.
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  1. S-200
    S-200 7 August 2013 13: 30 New
    -15
    Seem to be, comrade apart from its website, it doesn’t want to see anything more “positive” in media coverage of Russia ...
    "Spotlight adjustment"
    "A ray of light in the dark Internet web of the media kingdom"
    Well, the dough for allegiance to ask the king-father!
    Oh, these young Seliger entrepreneurial loot patriots of Russia! negative
    PS NO, WORK ... For money they don’t love their homeland! They sell it for money! ... stop
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 7 August 2013 13: 39 New
      +8
      I agree that this was not an unequivocal move. I saw this performance.

      Everything is simple there, in my opinion. The project is good and useful, but it has not yet been able to gain credibility, and it does not seem to bring enough money for its growth and development. It was an attempt, in my opinion, to draw attention not so much to the problem as to the project.

      The author should take an example from VO. VO, in many plans, is much more successful.
      1. Furnace driver
        Furnace driver 7 August 2013 13: 56 New
        +2
        Of course, Belarusians are a good judge :)
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 7 August 2013 14: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: Constantine
        The project is good and useful.


        It’s like someone, for me it's just another jugend.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 7 August 2013 14: 29 New
          +4
          Quote: Vadivak
          for me it’s just another jugend.

          Vadim hi ! only one thing is unclear - sponsored or volunteer ..
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 7 August 2013 15: 40 New
            +9
            Especially for Grishka100watt and his associates

            I wouldn’t be able to
            1. ed65b
              ed65b 7 August 2013 16: 06 New
              +4
              to the great Peje - Ku laughing
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 7 August 2013 16: 08 New
                +2
                Quote: ed65b
                to the great Peje - Ku


                There are kind of two Ku
                1. alone
                  alone 7 August 2013 16: 28 New
                  -6
                  Well then, probably cuckoo))
            2. The comment was deleted.
    2. Hauptmann emil
      Hauptmann emil 7 August 2013 13: 49 New
      31
      All the same, I partially agree with the author. Our media is working with some kind of incomprehensible excesses. Either for a few days they talk about the birth of the heir to the British throne, then they bring to nothing information about trials of corrupt officials, etc.
      1. Constantine
        Constantine 7 August 2013 14: 10 New
        17
        Quote: Hauptmann Emil
        All the same, I partially agree with the author. Our media is working with some kind of incomprehensible excesses. Either for a few days they talk about the birth of the heir to the British throne, then they bring to nothing information about trials of corrupt officials, etc.


        So the media does not serve our interests. There is nothing surprising here. "Whoever pays for a girl dances her." Everything is simple. smile
      2. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 7 August 2013 14: 16 New
        +3
        Apparently, the author suggests singing the praises of power, well then open your eyes - our media is only doing this.
        And yet, our achievements will look frivolous in comparison with the "achievements" of our "elites" in saturating our own pockets. The rating will be low - Putin is right.
    3. Vitlek
      Vitlek 7 August 2013 14: 01 New
      +1
      right, I agree, they play giveaways
    4. Botanologist
      Botanologist 7 August 2013 18: 11 New
      +6
      Quote: S-200
      NO, WRITTEN ... They don’t love their homeland for money! They sell it for money! ...


      minus you. explain:
      1. You didn’t understand what Kovrigin wrote about, but you got in with comments. it is sad.
      2. if a person came to Seliger, this is not a reason to accuse him of something.
      3. about the dough for loyalty ... again, you do not understand the meaning of the written.

      Well, and about the homeland - it's about the site, you have all mixed up.
      in short, minus.
      1. S-200
        S-200 7 August 2013 20: 43 New
        -4
        Quote: Botanologist
        1. You didn’t understand what Kovrigin wrote about, but you got in with comments. it is sad.

        Well, he collects information content "from the periphery", moreover, from regional media and corporate sites, and WHAT ??? ... WHAT is the value of this DUBLINING?
        Appeared in the form enlightenment patriot in front of Putin for financial support ... THIS IS I AND UNDERSTAND! and you ? believe everything that they say and write to you ??
        "If the boy likes to paint the fence ...", then ...
        Why should his government pay for his hobby?
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 7 August 2013 22: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: S-200
          "If the boy likes to paint the fence ...", then ... Why the state should pay for his hobby

          Because he suggests using his own strengths and other arts to paint the fence earlier with other “gifts” painted and painted, and turns the fence uncomplicated pa into an organic and pleasing to the eye FENCE.
          Is this not enough for you?
          For clarity, an example in the pictures:


          Does it not suit you?
          You can build an example on elevators and craped porches.
        2. Botanologist
          Botanologist 7 August 2013 22: 03 New
          +4
          Quote: S-200
          Well, he collects information content "from the periphery", moreover, from regional media and corporate sites, and WHAT ??? ... WHAT is the value of this DUBLINING?


          You know, the whole Internet is collecting content. What is the value of the internet? I don’t even know what to answer.

          Quote: S-200
          He appeared in the form of a patriot enlightener in front of Putin for financial support.


          I personally do not see anything wrong with the fact that the state will pay for such things. Already had a sad experience, when all the initiatives were paid exclusively by the State Department, I no longer want to.
          And what do you dislike - what pays, or what did you ask Putin?
    5. Papakiko
      Papakiko 7 August 2013 19: 14 New
      +4
      Quote: S-200
      PS NO, HOSTED ... They don’t love their homeland for money! Her for the money - they sell!

      We are doomed to be holodtsev and relish the ninth yo-ma-yo without salt, despite the fact that half of the planet’s resources are under our feet and are “snooping” for a cardon !?
      Kovrigin was ABSOLUTELY asked the question correctly and the expected GDP answered him, but in fact sent basins to kick in the bathhouse.
      It is credible to invest folk funds in the "toilet paper" of the Fed, and supporting your own citizens in socially significant projects is uncomfortable!
      This is one example, another example is also social: Renova hires on national funds to build houses in the regions of SMU-RSU according to the federal program for military personnel, etc. But in reality, how many apartments actually go into the hands of the military and how many are sold at the “market” price and where is the care of citizens in housing visible? Probably 70000-100000 rubles per square meter of living space and a mortgage at 12% for a maximum of 20 years. Is that for sure?
      And I’ll wipe all hands on the “Claudia” listing all aspects of Zbut they don’t like money! Her for the money - they sell!
      There is no need to hide behind a mask of hypocrisy about love for the motherland. One to remember on the rails promised to lay down for the motherland-MOTHER. Another, third term “fights” corruption.
      One utility system is worth what, trillions settle in the “right places”. Mamontov da Karaulov in the examples and take the answer: And what is changing?
      hi
      1. Grishka100watt
        Grishka100watt 7 August 2013 19: 41 New
        +1
        It is credible to invest folk funds in the "toilet paper" of the Fed, and supporting your own citizens in socially significant projects is uncomfortable!

        And what, the state has the opportunity not to invest in green paper? If there is, please tell us how to do this without violating the constitution?

        No, for me personally everything is clear: you need to collect on Red Square or somewhere else, one and a half or two people with the requirements to amend the Constitution. So that, among other things, the Central Bank does not work as a mechanism for enslaving Russia by America, but works for its native country. If you think that Putin can sign a decree on the nationalization of the Central Bank, but simply does not want to, because he is bad - no, that’s not so. It will be a coup d'etat with all that it implies. I'm not kidding.
        1. Grishka100watt
          Grishka100watt 7 August 2013 19: 46 New
          +1
          By the way, here, who wants to nationalize the Central Bank:

          http://www.национальныйзакон.рф/petit1.php?list=100

          You can fit in so as not to be unfounded.
  2. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 7 August 2013 13: 35 New
    0
    I don’t know how others, but Putin’s answers, were worthy and capacious. There was no doubt that Putin was cunning anywhere. Again, everyone says that Lokomotiv is pulling Russia out of the stagnation of the 90's.
    1. alone
      alone 7 August 2013 13: 40 New
      14
      hi but it is impossible for the locomotive to do this a bit faster? hi
      1. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 7 August 2013 15: 04 New
        +5
        Can. But then either the train will go off the rails or the boiler will explode. I think you understand the analogy hi
    2. vot-te-raz
      vot-te-raz 7 August 2013 13: 44 New
      +3
      A particularly dignified and capacious answer was to the question of government. good
      1. Tartary
        Tartary 7 August 2013 13: 59 New
        +5
        You can!

        Come out and help push ...)))
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 7 August 2013 15: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Putin's answers were worthy and capacious


      After his phrase in December 2003, “Russia for the Russians,” I don’t want to comment on his other statements anymore.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 7 August 2013 16: 38 New
        +2
        it’s hard to understand what he said? I don’t believe. Or do you understand in your own way?
  3. dropout
    dropout 7 August 2013 13: 40 New
    22
    The state is simply obliged to be the main player in the information field. For the absence on this field threatens its very existence. I remember Chile from the time of Allende. Of all the media existing at that time, only two were pro-government. The result was not long in coming.
    1. V. Salama
      V. Salama 7 August 2013 15: 36 New
      0
      Quote: dropout
      The state simply must be the main player in the information field
      If you argue abstractly, then there is nothing to argue.
      Quote: dropout
      ... For the absence of this field threatens its very existence
      And why doesn’t it scare our people? They believed in the "irreversibility of the process" or in the effectiveness of existing measures to dibilize the people with the same media?
      Quote: dropout
      I remember Chile from the days of Allende ...
      Something I can’t determine the share of opposition channels in our country, sharp reports skip over pressing issues, but no connection ... - these are the flaws, the power, pay attention, well, etc.
    2. matross
      matross 7 August 2013 15: 45 New
      +9
      Quote: dropout
      The state is simply obliged to be the main player in the information field.

      It's true. Obliged. And the state is such. Watch TV. Times NTVshnyh obs..rov belligerent army long gone. Almost all channels have a solid state positive. Universiade Olympiads, exercises, successful disaster management, independent foreign policy, etc. I don’t know how anyone, but I think it is right! Most still bathe in the information waves of TV and a little bit, but it sets people up for a positive perception of reality. Another thing is the Internet - here already every pig will find dirt for itself, or even it will spoil itself! While this is inevitable. An outlet for the normal is resources such as VO. It is necessary to go to this SUN, see what’s what. At least the idea of ​​covering the country's achievements is correct and necessary, if only they would not hit naked slogans. Propaganda must also be smart and subtle ...
  4. vot-te-raz
    vot-te-raz 7 August 2013 13: 42 New
    10
    I really don’t know how NGOs - “Foreign Agents” receiving grants from abroad - can do it much easier, but in Russia the requirements are very strict. For example, strict financial statements, strict budgeting, the need to register a legal entity, which in itself adds a lot of problems compared to the banal “IE on simplified business”, the strict requirement of payments to social funds solely from their own income, without using grant funds.

    Especially strict accounting statements at our Oboronservis.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 7 August 2013 22: 06 New
      -2
      Yes, very strict and, I am sure, in order. The question is who checks it and how. By the way, the most stringent test is the result. But it’s the most difficult one, because the result can only be checked qualitatively by a specialist on a topic. Where to get so many specialists so that they don’t work but just check? Well, that's another story ...
      On this topic. GDP is right and you won’t jump anywhere. The USSR so washed down the "propaganda" that the vaccine will last another hundred years. The idiotic lies of 24 hours a day, as I recall, I will tremble ... the pro-government media will not be able to trust the donation for a penny. By the way, this is where the grant-eaters fell. The same Soviet, thoroughly false motive, only with the opposite sign. With soul turns ...
  5. Asgard
    Asgard 7 August 2013 13: 46 New
    26
    The project itself is not bad ...
    I often go to see, but here I (a man of the Empire) have bitter feelings ..... feeling the potential of our People, the site should report every day on the construction of Tankers, Hydroelectric Power Plants, Bridges, Stadiums and most importantly INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTIONS...built by Russian people!

    and what we see- boats, tugs, hangars of a screwdriver assembly of "Western manufacturers", the names are completely non-Russian, in extreme cases in Latin (patriot)))

    look at it bitterly ...
    And most importantly, We haven’t lost anything, People here, they simply don’t give to work- AUTHORITY, which should support the resource "made by us", grab and nurture with both hands, help ...

    and not answer the questions of a person-PATRIOT country ....
    Continue (do not back down)), rely only on yourself (not on the "king")))
    stop begging for "Judah", they don’t like their homeland for money))))
    Remember, great accomplishments consist of SMALL deeds, being done CONSTANTLY .....
    ............................................................................
  6. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 7 August 2013 13: 55 New
    +4
    But the more you receive money from the state, the more some label will be glued to you and the less confidence in this information that you formulate. Let's think about it together.
    Aptly Putin answered the question !!
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 7 August 2013 18: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Aptly Putin answered the question !!

      Aptly? That he admitted that the citizens of the Russian Federation distrust their state? I understand this as usual, but on this basis, to step aside in informing our citizens with reliable information, recognizing that existing SMDs are at least not objective. Echo Putin merely expressed his opposition to denigrating himself in his editions.
  7. Russ69
    Russ69 7 August 2013 13: 56 New
    11
    Man, really doing something. And do not cry forever on the forums "prosralipolymers." In my article I expressed my opinion and I personally understand him.
  8. pensioner
    pensioner 7 August 2013 13: 56 New
    10
    I watched Putin’s meeting with Seliger participants. I really liked it. And state support for patriotic media is necessary. Otherwise, others will take their place. Examples - mass.
  9. biglow
    biglow 7 August 2013 14: 02 New
    +5
    At the Seliger, Putin answered in sufficient detail to all questions, and if his answers were not always detailed, then the questions are not always clear enough, given the age of the audience
  10. marsavin.yu
    marsavin.yu 7 August 2013 14: 04 New
    +6
    Is it embarrassing for the state to publicize its achievements? Or should people themselves look for positive aspects in their own state? And why the media then? I thought to maintain awareness of state affairs. Rather, affairs in the state. And not only in the minor direction. People just have to stop watching TV that, in general, is already being done, quitting reading newspapers has also noticeably diminished. and only go about our own business. so calmer.
  11. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 7 August 2013 14: 08 New
    -4
    Damn the play is obscure and where is it good. Putin will bring the country to the point where he will be forced to transfer power to either the non-Bolsheviks from the swamp or nationalists.
  12. Neo1982
    Neo1982 7 August 2013 14: 16 New
    +7
    Russian media are so arranged that since 1991. They work in the USA, and we only see nasty things on TV. A bill has now been introduced on media self-regulation - this will help rectify the situation and bring the media out of Western control.
  13. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 7 August 2013 14: 24 New
    +7
    Do you seriously think that this West pulls out marginals every day to Malakhov and creates the image of idiots from the Russian people or the banal authorlessness of the authors and, as a result, the dumb primitive pursuit of ratings and, accordingly, of the dough.
  14. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 7 August 2013 14: 27 New
    10
    All I need to know on the network is that I don’t watch TV unless you count a couple of hours a week (in total), so I don’t need to watch TV or read newspapers, just going to the store and bills for a communal apartment. So it’s neither cold nor hot from your positive. and as for me personally, I definitely appreciate it. Of course, anyone with a salary of 100 or a pension of 20, they can enthusiastically welcome. E when the pension is 8 thousand, then I wanted to sneeze at all the media that will shout about great successes and achievements.
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 7 August 2013 15: 01 New
      +1
      that clever men showed up, but I wanted to spit on your minuses. I am sure that they are put by those who have just adapted and live happily ever after. And just so deeply hum all the rest
    2. Hleb
      Hleb 7 August 2013 16: 44 New
      +3
      wink well, the military has a pension of about twenty and beyond ... but nevertheless they welcome him))
  15. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 7 August 2013 14: 36 New
    20
    Perfectly in the hole. Full agreement. And now another decree has been issued aimed at helping the people. Now, gentlemen or comrades like anyone else, you will have a social package of energy supply consisting of as much as 70 kW. All that you pay above at the commercial rate, wash manually turn off the computers, breathe from the heat without air conditioning. Here is the mother of his achievement in the 21st century.
    PS And this is when the Russian energy systems became the largest sponsor of the football team in Europe.
    Bravo Mr. Putin Bravo Sileger applaud
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 7 August 2013 14: 48 New
      +7
      yes just awesome positive
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 7 August 2013 15: 48 New
      +8
      Quote: kapitan281271
      Bravo Mr. Putin Bravo Sileger applaud


      He applauds, Moscow. the 14 th of July. INTERFAX.RU - During a heavy downpour at the Seliger 2009 forum, its participants improved the demographic situation in Russia, say the organizers of the youth forum. At the youth camp on Seliger. “The heavy rain that went on all night at the Seliger 2009 ″ youth forum did not violate the work schedule or the planned lectures. The Ministry of Emergencies warned us in time that a storm warning had been announced in the Tver Region and we took all measures to prevent emergency situations, ”Ilya Kostunov, director of the Seliger-2009 forum, told Interfax. At the same time, he said that electricity was disconnected centrally and the generators were de-energized on the forum territory. “Through the bells, we warned the participants about the impending elements and, each delegation, with the help of instructors and rescuers working at the forum, saved their property,” he said.

      During the night, according to Kostunov, “the participants had a good opportunity to increase the demographic situation.” “Since most of the participants on Seliger were not ready for the first time for the weather, the girls with great pleasure moved into the tents to the guys and slept in the tents, warming each other.”
      Interfax
  16. Alexey M
    Alexey M 7 August 2013 14: 48 New
    +1
    Quote: vladsolo56
    All I need to know on the network is that I don’t watch TV unless you count a couple of hours a week (in total), so I don’t need to watch TV or read newspapers, just going to the store and bills for a communal apartment. So it’s neither cold nor hot from your positive. and as for me personally, I definitely appreciate it. Of course, anyone with a salary of 100 or a pension of 20, they can enthusiastically welcome. E when the pension is 8 thousand, then I wanted to sneeze at all the media that will shout about great successes and achievements.

    That is, if all the media will tell you that everything is bad and nothing good is happening, then it suits you. Because the network is also someone’s opinion and it’s impossible to clearly name all the news on the network. Sites are needed where they talk about life, and not just throw out the negative. But life is different, there is bad, there is good, but we write and shoot only about the bad.
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 7 August 2013 15: 04 New
      +5
      Do not you understand? what does the media have to do with it if I live in my city, get my pension, and pay for goods and services on my accounts. As they say, do not say halva, life will not become sweeter. We must not take pictures of the bad, we must work (for the president and officials) so that there wouldn’t be bad, or at least not in such quantity.
  17. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 7 August 2013 14: 50 New
    +3
    name good
  18. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 7 August 2013 15: 38 New
    +2
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    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 7 August 2013 15: 40 New
      0
      Made by us .............................
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 7 August 2013 15: 42 New
        +3
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  19. krpmlws
    krpmlws 7 August 2013 15: 48 New
    +2
    The problem can be posed as follows: the nature of the conditionality of the media, the way to correct the negative situation in the media. In my opinion, modern media are completely dominated by a mercantile motive - this is a business, with all the ensuing negative consequences. The sources of media income can be different (including of dubious origin), money doesn’t smell like a businessman. It’s high time for the government to understand the common truth, the media should be under state control, because the media form the society, the younger generation, affect the minds of people. It’s not clear to give this cornerstone sphere to the business. It’s a crime. All this leads to the dominance of journalists in the media, who often do not adhere to state interests, but to some abstract, albeit important, values, without realizing the correct hierarchy of values ​​(Russia's eternal problem: fools and roads ...) . It can also be said about frankly bought journalists by both local oligarchs and the west. Lack of attention, control of the media it’s nonsense in Russia. Putin, according to his characteristic crooked logic, claims the opposite, what is surprising here. In general, you need to think up this: they say there will be less trust in the media, which will be controlled by the state. Well, now is there great trust? firstly, secondly, to be afraid of a sticky decline in trust and not be afraid of the role of the mass media that is destructive for society, is it like you? Yes, Russia is unlucky, it seems that there are normal people, but at the top one ... floats.
  20. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 7 August 2013 16: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: Scandinavian
    I don’t know how others, but Putin’s answers, were worthy and capacious. There was no doubt that Putin was cunning anywhere. Again, everyone says that Lokomotiv is pulling Russia out of the stagnation of the 90's.

    the questions were the ones he needed
  21. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 7 August 2013 16: 20 New
    +9
    A systemic crisis is everywhere in the economy, in law enforcement agencies, in defense, in politics, everywhere. Gospadin Putin could go into Istria as a leader who created a new effective system of state administration, but then at a certain stage he had to either share power or give it away. As a consequence of the new system, no old survives the last days or years. The end of the old system will be catastrophic for Russia. Power will either pass to the swamp, but it will not hold back the swamp, or immediately to the neo-Bolshivists.
    I work for one federal company. It’s quiet horror. It’s a matrix that I created, I mean, a bureaucratic machine. She exists autonomously and she is invulnerable created by a monster which can no longer be defeated. Every day I do not work in engineering, but I feel like some kind of Ostap Bender. Before coming here, there were still illusions that we were slowly but surely moving forward. This lies complete stagnation. You will remember Putin’s first term of decision, verified, understandable, consistent, largely thought out. Now the work of the president, and even more so of the government, is reminiscent of the Brownian movement or simply throwing naked in a bath. I used to think that certain decisions could be made in the light of cutting the dough, now I think that it is not or partly not. THEY JUST DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO NO ANY STRATEGIC PLANS AND DECISIONS.
    1. krpmlws
      krpmlws 7 August 2013 18: 03 New
      +3
      I fully support! I have a similar situation at work. I make stupid, empty decisions, often just an imitation of violent activity. I don’t even know if a virus has infected Russian people from bottom to top ...
    2. Neo1982
      Neo1982 8 August 2013 07: 28 New
      0
      Enough to drive on Putin. The country in the American occupation is the problem.
  22. timhelmet
    timhelmet 7 August 2013 16: 29 New
    +7
    I look, in the comments on the author of the article enough slop is poured, they say young, pink glasses, the dough is asking, etc.
    I was here recently on a visit, I watched the following picture:
    It includes a plasma TV, digital TV, U channel, a youth program translated into Russian about (I’m not afraid of the word) stupid American blondes, brunettes, black women and their boyfriends (who are not very smart). The essence of the program is that young people need to be injected with any available method leading some kind of skin lotion. Those. casting for the seller in essence.
    So here, on what these earcaps did not go, you would see ...

    At that moment I thought: where is the normal RUSSIAN broadcast of USEFUL YOUTH PROGRAMS!?!?
    Then the thought flashed that it would be nice to show domestic achievements in different areas of life.
    And you say "young, pink glasses, the dough asks"

    And finally: on the same channel after 5-10 minutes advertising. Quote: “Channel U is your favorite channel”
    It became a little interesting to me, but what about the “beloved” there yet. Here you are, comrades, the program for today:
    05: 00In the subject. The best
    05:30 Cosmetic repair
    06: 25Queen Ball
    07: 25American Top Model
    10: 10In the subject. The best
    10: 40Queen Ball
    11:35 The Secrets of Smallville
    13: 15American Top Model
    16:00 ugly
    16: 50Enchanted
    18: 30Pregnant at 16
    19:30 Beverly Hills 90210
    20: 20Enchanted
    22:00 The Secrets of Smallville
    23: 45In topic
    00:15 Beverly Hills 90210
    01:05 Cosmetic repair
    02:00 Temptations with Masha Malinovskaya
    04:00 New I
    The richest movie stars
    04: 50Bernard

    I guess I'm also still young (at 27) and wearing pink glasses ...
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 7 August 2013 17: 05 New
      +3
      I agree with you, on our TV there should be educational programs for young people, and not only educational, but also educational. But judge for yourself who needs this? Who needs competent and educated people in our country. I am becoming more and more convinced that we need illiterate migrant workers, obedient and without any complaints. So it turns out that the authorities put the training as bad as possible, essentially no education. But even if we assume that there will be upbringing, how, then, to explain to the younger generation, why is there one thing in words, but in life everything is just the opposite? Once again, I want to note that without a normal fair positive governance of the country, any of the most positive media will be perceived only as a mockery.
  23. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 7 August 2013 17: 03 New
    +3
    Well done keep it up. In parallel with VO, a good couple. And they say that our youth only injects and drinks. Such is the future of our Russia. He’s not thinking about how to remove the loot ...
  24. Iraclius
    Iraclius 7 August 2013 18: 18 New
    +5
    The project of this comrade instantly became the subject of ridicule on the Web. What, they say, works for a specific order. The author was pecked to such an extent that he apparently decided to take the last step - to complain to Himself. Arrived, asked, received an answer. Well, they say, it’s like - I work myself! And they don’t give me anything.
    How so how ...
    A tovarisch can describe accomplishments as vividly and arbitrarily as possible.
    Only, here, falling rockets, collapsing walls on the carriageways, a mess with the reform-you-know-what social spheres and some kind of sluggish attitude of the authorities towards thieves - this is not going anywhere. And this on the scales so far outweighs the spools that the comrade is trying to advertise.
  25. Iraclius
    Iraclius 7 August 2013 18: 26 New
    0
    Today I read a note in the newspaper of my hometown that from next year real estate in my city will become cheaper.
    My eyes almost got out of their sockets. Didn’t whip at all?
  26. Atenon
    Atenon 7 August 2013 18: 27 New
    0
    A good portal, I constantly visit his cook and your site, it’s nice to read something positive and be happy for Dejava
  27. Alexey M
    Alexey M 7 August 2013 19: 04 New
    +3
    Quote: vladsolo56
    I agree with you, on our TV there should be educational programs for young people, and not only educational, but also educational. But judge for yourself who needs this? Who needs competent and educated people in our country. I am becoming more and more convinced that we need illiterate migrant workers, obedient and without any complaints. So it turns out that the authorities put the training as bad as possible, essentially no education. But even if we assume that there will be upbringing, how, then, to explain to the younger generation, why is there one thing in words, but in life everything is just the opposite? Once again, I want to note that without a normal fair positive governance of the country, any of the most positive media will be perceived only as a mockery.

    I completely agree! Channels Star, Science 2.0, History, My Planet. Here, in principle, probably everything is informatively patriotic on our TV.
  28. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 7 August 2013 19: 52 New
    0
    Quote: Alexey M
    Channels Star, Science 2.0, History, My planet.

    culture
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  29. Alexey M
    Alexey M 7 August 2013 20: 01 New
    0
    Quote: Michael m
    Quote: Alexey M
    Channels Star, Science 2.0, History, My planet.

    culture

    I rarely watch her did not remember.
  30. GEO
    GEO 7 August 2013 21: 03 New
    +1
    Roman Kovrigin, thanks for what you do.
  31. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 7 August 2013 21: 18 New
    0
    It’s just that GDP takes into account our mentality (there is no faith in those concerned), the law on NGOs takes this into account. The West scolds Putin is good (this is true), foreigners here pay someone badly (this is also true). But still, there must be an opportunity to find funds for patriotic media (and this is true love )
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 8 August 2013 00: 32 New
      0
      This is a chip not only of his-all power -
      there is a pit on the road — wait until the motorists themselves are filled up with bricks, do the rotors rot in the houses? -another five years we wait — we will change it ourselves to plastic and there are a lot of such examples.
  32. individual
    individual 7 August 2013 21: 26 New
    0
    The launched program “Made with Us” is a necessary matter of media coverage of the real situation in Russia.
    Earlier created for foreign broadcasting in English, the Russia Today television channel became the second most popular foreign channel in the United States, immediately behind the BBC.
    We can if we want.
    It is necessary to eliminate the unrequited distortion of the pouring negativity from Echo of Moscow, Dozhd and other tendentious media, and to draw up internal broadcasting to the standard of truth about Russia.
    1. S-200
      S-200 7 August 2013 21: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: individ
      The launched program “Made with Us” is a necessary matter of media coverage of the real situation in Russia.

      You walk through the sites of regional (administrations) and municipal (administrations) media! they are controlled and financed by local authorities ...
      The most powerful propaganda!
      everything is painted in them to iota!
      The Putin team has long and successfully built powerful propaganda at all levels for the population, in all types of media, the Internet, and so on.
      а Boy brings us America .. wassat
  33. polly
    polly 7 August 2013 22: 13 New
    +1
    Added widget “Made with us - news.” Thank you. Keep it up!
  34. KCC
    KCC 7 August 2013 22: 21 New
    0
    The project is necessary, to show on positive facts the life of the whole country.
  35. djsa1
    djsa1 7 August 2013 22: 27 New
    +2
    Gasoline has risen in price, everything is getting more expensive, and something isn’t being discussed vividly on the mailbox, and on the Internet there isn’t such news on the start Yandex, just a dull one. What do I care if Obama comes to Russia or not? I have more to do before the communal apartment grows tomorrow and gasoline rises in price.
  36. djsa1
    djsa1 7 August 2013 22: 37 New
    0
    On our city site around, one positive deputy head of the administration reported on road repairs, but for some reason in square meters, so that the number was larger, and it would be better not to repair it. And the rest, all the good news, they’ll build a business center , then the store, but they just don’t say that we do not produce anything, the plants are bent, but we only buy and sell, we will soon switch to the exchange in kind, also a type of business))))
  37. lelikas
    lelikas 8 August 2013 00: 27 New
    0
    Quote: Vadivak
    Especially for Grishka100watt and his associates

    I wouldn’t be able to

    Choi I ​​do not catch up - really ku or still charging? and why portraits, if they are always hanging out there, such as saving on lsidi screens ...
  38. Grif
    Grif 8 August 2013 05: 16 New
    +1
    I do not understand. Talking about achievements is wrong. Pouring chernukha, what, right? This is also a road to nowhere. Maybe at least alternate bad news with good?
    1. V. Salama
      V. Salama 8 August 2013 15: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: Grif
      I do not understand. Talking about achievements is wrong. Pouring chernukha, what, right? This is also a road to nowhere.

      What is incomprehensible here? This is politics. Both "achievements" and "chernukha" are a commodity and a means. The eloquent words of any deed are their dumb ...:
      - ... give us money, and I promise to dump positive mountains on the electorate;
      “Young man, you won’t make a gesheft on this.” You simply will not have popularity. Yes, and we can’t give you money - we already had a negative experience with the Nashi, we still can’t get them. We’ll also take this place. Any “under-educated” knows that “The state simply must be the main player in the information field, ”people work there subtly, you don’t care. Yes, I personally: Siberian Cranes, Amphoras, Submarines, Fighters, Pikes - who is it for everyone? Obviously, we don’t have such a leadership things can go wrong. Now the business is no longer doing this, dear. Let’s better think together about this: it’s better if you criticize the authorities and rage on Bolotnaya, for example, but only so that it is obvious to everyone that you are completely inadequate and besides, on the salary of the State Department. So you lock on yourself the final flows from enemies of all stripes. And you will have fun too - real help to us. We will infringe all the violent ones who run to the heap, well, there will be a reason to tighten the nut in the face of threats enemy internal and external. Well, and then we go loot lim of course.

      Maybe I’ve gone too far here, but I don’t live on the moon, and in order to find out what a forest is, one does not need to study every tree in the forest.
  39. Egen
    Egen 8 August 2013 06: 26 New
    0
    Exactly. Facts must be given, and the people themselves will figure it out, not so, the people, and. That's right, when they are presented not with facts, but with praises beautifully presented on their basis, then of course the people will refuse :)
  40. taseka
    taseka 8 August 2013 06: 56 New
    +2
    And I directly got this zombie dumb program !!!
  41. Neo1982
    Neo1982 8 August 2013 19: 40 New
    +2
    Quote: Alexey M
    Channels Star, Science 2.0, History, My Planet. Here, in principle, probably everything is informatively patriotic on our TV.

    there are also agents of influence