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"Ilyin Day" Airborne (photo)

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Ilyin Day and the 83 anniversary of the Airborne Forces celebrated the 2 of August in Moscow with a procession and a festive concert. The official part of the events began with a prayer and liturgy in the temple of Elijah the Prophet in China Town. Then the clergy, together with the soldiers and officers of the Airborne Forces, made a procession from the temple to the Place of Execution on the Red Square. The event will end with the concert program “Nobody, except us!” On Poklonnaya Hill.



The ceremonial construction of the airborne troops of Russia before the procession on Red Square



Commander of the Airborne Forces of Russia V.A. Shamanov



Guard of honor at the icon of St. Elias



Participants of the holiday


"Ilyin Day" Airborne (photo)
Airborne fighter before the procession



Church cleric



Former paratrooper Airborne



Moleben with water blessing on the street. Ilyinka



Procession on Red Square



Airborne Officer in full dress on Red Square



Preparing for the march



Blessing before the procession



Participants in the procession



Veteran Airborne



Building on Red Square



Spectators of the celebration
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    1. Apollo
      Apollo 3 August 2013 10: 27 New
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      video appeal of the chairman of the Union of paratroopers of the Russian Federation

      The latest military equipment will appear in the Airborne Forces
      1. KuigoroZHIK
        KuigoroZHIK 3 August 2013 12: 47 New
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        just one question:
        Which bastard put a minus article?
        1. Aryan
          Aryan 3 August 2013 13: 39 New
          +6
          Are you a campaign fighter for awards?
          or what?

          and on
          Happy Holidays!
          My friend had a father major airborne
          already dead, kingdom be upon him
          since he had one army craft as an icon on the wall
          round wooden base on which is painted
          Wolf from "Well! Wait!" in parachute form
          and with a faceted glass in his hand
          and signature
          "FOR THE AIRBORNE FORCES!"
          Uncle Vasya really appreciated this fighting memory
        2. Ducksar
          Ducksar 4 August 2013 11: 56 New
          -7
          christian phobia
        3. s1н7т
          s1н7т 4 August 2013 17: 04 New
          -6
          Quote: Kuygorozhik
          What a bastard

          Do you talk to yourself? laughing
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          1. Ducksar
            Ducksar 5 August 2013 20: 20 New
            0
            and yet I am right (though they were minuscule)! here you are, an ardent representative ... And how many fights were fought and victories won under the guise of Christ ?! that even in difficult times an airplane with the face of the Virgin flew over Moscow. and now, as an alien, you reject and are ready to blame.
        5. batalin15246
          batalin15246 5 August 2013 18: 50 New
          +1
          Surely the same one that put plus a photo story posted in "Tape.RU"
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      3. Tersky
        Tersky 3 August 2013 20: 57 New
        12
        Apollo, hi ! Other gentlemen, the silushka of the Russian Airborne Forces have long been appreciated
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 4 August 2013 08: 07 New
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          Victor well, give people proof of this quote? That you all copy what he did not say?
      4. spok
        spok 4 August 2013 02: 27 New
        +3
        and yet this is damn unfortunately
        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/107/enra199.jpg
        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/636/hnrc827.jpg
        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/071/afen808.jpg
        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/290/llks163.jpg
        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/397/wjxt487.jpg
      5. Stalinets
        Stalinets 4 August 2013 06: 54 New
        +2
        Vostrotin, as always !!!!! Man !!!!!
      6. Apollo
        Apollo 4 August 2013 20: 43 New
        +4
        continuation of the topic

        Shamanov: In two or three years, the Airborne Forces will receive an upgraded self-propelled artillery system "Octopus"
        The upgraded anti-tank self-propelled installation "Octopus" will go into service in two or three years, said the commander of the Airborne Forces Vladimir Shamanov.
        According to him, a set of measures to form a test program is being completed, funding has been received.
        Details are not given.

        Self-propelled artillery mount with anti-tank gun "Octopus-SD" (self-propelled landing) is an armored combat, tracked floating vehicle. Without refueling, it can make throws, marches at distances up to five hundred kilometers.
        It was produced in a small series for the Russian Armed Forces. As of 2009, there were four batteries in the Airborne Forces, that is, 24 vehicles. In 2010, it announced the rejection of further purchases and the cessation of production. However, on 2 in May of that year, this information was refuted by the commander of the Airborne Forces - Vladimir Shamanov. He said that this installation, after some refinement, will be purchased further, in series.
        In terms of firepower, the upgraded gun is comparable to the T-90 tank. The Octopus is capable of firing all types of shells, including rocket launches from an 125-mm cannon with a rate of fire of seven rounds per minute. The system is equipped with three different sights, an arms stabilizer, coaxial machine gun with a cannon, and a smoke grenade launch system. The self-propelled gun has an elongated seven-rim chassis, created on the components and assemblies of a serial BMD-3 airborne assault vehicle.

        2С25 "Octopus" - the heaviest airborne combat vehicle in the world. Its total mass with a crew of three is about 18 tons. In 2007, the Airborne Forces successfully conducted the first test landing of a self-propelled gun from the Il-76 military transport aircraft.

        The disadvantage of this machine is the unfinished diesel engine 2В-06-2 with an output of 510 l. with.

        In 2009, the Sprut self-propelled guns participated in the Victory Day parade on Red Square.
        more details http://www.vz.ru/news/2013/8/4/644172.html


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  2. tupolev-95
    tupolev-95 3 August 2013 10: 19 New
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    Pure water provocation, sorry police intervened.
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 3 August 2013 10: 49 New
      +4
      Quote: Tupolev-95
      Pure water provocation, sorry police intervened.

      In the video, someone shouted that this was a provocation, and they parted on this.
    2. psdf
      psdf 3 August 2013 11: 31 New
      +7
      In theory, the task of the police is to knit a provocateur, and not to fight with paratroopers.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 3 August 2013 13: 24 New
        -12
        In theory, this is a single picket. Take for what?
        1. igor67
          igor67 3 August 2013 13: 28 New
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          Quote: Pimply
          In theory, this is a single picket. Take for what?

          An unauthorized picket, Zhenya, and why should he be proud of what he didn’t traditional, all the same for nature this is a deviation, in nature everything must reproduce and the strongest species survive, but how can this continue its kind? in criminal law.
          1. Hort
            Hort 5 August 2013 09: 14 New
            +1
            Yes, the fact of the matter is that unfortunately (as I understood from the comments on the video of this attempted suicide) he had an authorized picket. Initially, there should have been three more along with this red dolbozad. But those, apparently, deceived :)
            Otherwise, the police would have immediately taken him away directly from the Palace
        2. Suhov
          Suhov 3 August 2013 19: 31 New
          +9
          You can take for anything.
          xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
          And you can, for example, and for the legs (or leg):
          - Uncle! Let me go, let me go!
          - Do not circle me, do not circle me!
          - Do not hit me with your head about al-faaaaaaaaaa-ALT !!!
          wassat
        3. antiaircrafter
          antiaircrafter 4 August 2013 10: 59 New
          +9
          Quote: Pimply
          In theory, this is a single picket. Take for what?

          For example, for the promotion of homosexuality among minors, in the light of the relevant law.
        4. shpuntik
          shpuntik 4 August 2013 20: 54 New
          +6
          Lieutenant colonel
          Pimpled (1) RU Yesterday, 13:24 PM ↑
          In theory, this is a single picket. Take for what?

          This is an advertisement for sin. Sodom sin, from which Lot hijacked. He who advocates the advertisement of sin destroys the state.
      2. mnn_13
        mnn_13 4 August 2013 00: 45 New
        +1
        I watched the video. 100% provocation that found expected and worthy of an answer.
    3. Gari
      Gari 3 August 2013 11: 40 New
      +3
      Quote: Tupolev-95
      Pure water provocation, sorry police intervened.

      Yes provocation
      how are you Tupolev
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        1. svp67
          svp67 3 August 2013 20: 24 New
          +3
          Quote: Hon
          watch the video to the end
          Vodka, even sound ideas and actions nullifies ...
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  4. shpuntik
    shpuntik 3 August 2013 10: 45 New
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    A good photo review +, and it is necessary to revive the tradition.
    Elijah is a prophet, very strict say (but fair :-).
    Therefore, on Ilyin’s day it will be more correct, as in the report: with banners, with prayer, sober. And then only - a feast, festivities. You can’t push Elijah or not notice, it will be bad. Well, this applies to the Orthodox, and my opinion as a Christian is not an offense to others.
    1. Argon
      Argon 3 August 2013 11: 31 New
      +9
      I did not quite understand what caused the negative of Tupolev-95 and Valery Neonov, obviously this is a reaction to the remote comment. Personally, I deeply share the opinion of shuntik, especially since the Airborne Forces and the Russian Orthodox Church have closer “cooperation” than anywhere else, in any case, the "gatherings" of priests (paratroopers in reserve) with airborne landing (that is, with the development of all skills in the profile) were carried out only by the Airborne Command.
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        1. Cossack23
          Cossack23 3 August 2013 17: 10 New
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          and you don’t respect faith?
          1. does it
            does it 3 August 2013 18: 25 New
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            Quote: Cossack23
            and you don’t respect faith?

            Because I believe in sane people, I believe in those who make our world a better place. Thanks to them, I use all the blessings and "benefits" of our civilization. The article has more religious advertising! despite the fact that we have freedom of religion in our country. And representatives of various religious faiths serve in the airborne forces. In my deep conviction, the article should begin: about people who created, put on the feet of the airborne forces, prepared people before entering the service in the airborne forces and in the airborne forces.
            1. Nicotine 7
              Nicotine 7 3 August 2013 19: 17 New
              +4
              Moderates with communist stubbornness remove comments that do not coincide with the general line (almost said the CPSU) of the Russian Orthodox Church.
        2. shpuntik
          shpuntik 3 August 2013 23: 50 New
          +5
          qirit (1) SU Today, 13:54 PM ↑
          Quote: Argon
          airborne forces and the Russian Orthodox Church have closer "cooperation"
          Which place? laughing Regards to the Airborne Forces hi

          Shoulder to shoulder and elbow to the elbow!
          The algorithm is this. The whole thing is in the Orthodox Tao and Bushido - it is the shortest, but also the most difficult: the fight against passions. Compare the Gospel passage with the war when they were baptized in the trenches, not even among the clergy:

          32 They led with him to death and two villains.
          33 And when they came to a place called Lobnoye, they crucified him and the villains, one on the right and the other on the left.
          34 Jesus said: Father! forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing. And they divided his garments, casting lots.
          35 And the people stood and looked. But the leaders mocked with them, saying: He saved others; may He save Himself if He is Christ, the chosen one of God.
          36 The soldiers also cursed over Him, coming up and offering Him vinegar 37 and saying: If You are the King of Judea, save Yourself.
          38 And there was an inscription over him, written in the words of Greek, Roman and Jewish: This is the King of Judea.
          39 One of the hanged villains cursed him and said: if you are Christ, save yourself and us.
          40 The other, on the contrary, curtailed him and said: or are you not afraid of God, when you yourself are condemned to the same thing? 41 and we are justly condemned, because we have received the worthy according to our deeds, but He has done nothing wrong.
          42 And he said to Jesus, Remember me, Lord, when you come to your kingdom!
          43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, now you will be with me in paradise.
          44 And it was about six o’clock in the afternoon, and darkness became over the whole earth until nine o’clock: 45 and the sun was darkened, and the curtain in the temple was torn in the middle.
          46 Jesus, exclaiming in a loud voice, said: Father! into thy hands I betray my spirit. And saying this, he gave up his spirit.
          47 But the centurion, seeing what was happening, glorified God and said: Verily this man was a righteous man.
          48 And all the people who came together at this sight, seeing what was happening, returned, beating himself in the chest.

          And if this was a lie, it would have collapsed by itself a long time ago, and would not have been the largest religion in the world. And what is the essence of feeding the flock with clergy? The point is in the sacrament of communion, when the spirit of a person feels a renewal from the action of the Holy Spirit.

          How is this seen by atheists? Probably so:
          "21 For when the world by his wisdom did not know God in the wisdom of God, it was pleasing to God through the foolishness of preaching to save the believers.
          22 For even the Jews demand miracles, and the Greeks seek wisdom;
          23 but we preach Christ crucified, for the Jews a temptation, and for the Greeks insanity ... http://azbyka.ru/ivliev/apostol_vozdvizhenie_kresta-all.shtml "
          1. does it
            does it 4 August 2013 03: 11 New
            -5
            Quote: shpuntik
            shpuntik

            You are probably sitting here on the forum from the ROC?
            1. shpuntik
              shpuntik 4 August 2013 20: 00 New
              +7
              Lieutenant colonel
              qirit (1) SU Today, 03:11 PM ↑
              You are probably sitting here on the forum from the ROC?

              No. Not from the ROC, in the sense of a worker, but the Orthodox layman means a part of the church, part of the ROC. I just try to fulfill the commandment of the seventh day (to be in the temple on Sunday). And he came to the conclusion that all the "movement" on planet Earth (as one of the most extreme manifestations is war) is connected with people's beliefs.
          2. does it
            does it 4 August 2013 03: 20 New
            +3
            shpuntik; For even the Jews demand miracles, and the Greeks seek wisdom;
            "Ah, Solon, Solon! You Greeks always remain children,

            and there is no old man among the Hellenes! "" Why do you say that? "asked Solon." All

            “You are young with your mind,” he answered, “for your minds do not retain in themselves any betrayal.”

            niya, from time immemorial passing from generation to generation, and no doctrine that turned gray from

            time. Here is the reason for this. There have been and will be multiple and

            personal cases of death of people, and, moreover, the most terrible ones - because of fire and water, and

            others, less significant, due to thousands of other disasters. Hence the

            your strange story about Phaeton, the son of Helios, who seems to be once

            harnessed his father’s chariot, but couldn’t direct her along his father’s path, but

            he burned everything on Earth and died himself, incinerated by lightning
            Plato

            dialogues

            TIME
          3. does it
            does it 4 August 2013 04: 34 New
            +4
            Quote: shpuntik
            44 And it was about six o’clock in the afternoon, and darkness became over the whole earth until nine o’clock: 45 and the sun went dark, and the curtain in the temple was torn in the middle. 46 Jesus, exclaiming with a loud voice, said: Father! into thy hands I betray my spirit. And, having said these things, he gave up his spirit. 47 The centurion, seeing what was happening, glorified God and said: Verily this man was righteous. 48 And all the people who came down to this sight, seeing what was happening, returned, beating himself in the chest.

            EVERYTHING is correct, a solar eclipse happened. And the people with astronomy were not familiar. Now I understand why some religious activists are trying to ban astronomy, as well as selling telescopes. And the scene of the eclipse from the film directed by Jerzy Kavalerovich "Pharaoh" comes to mind
            1. shpuntik
              shpuntik 4 August 2013 20: 12 New
              +6
              AvatarColonel
              qirit (1) SU Today, 04:34 PM ↑
              EVERYTHING right, a solar eclipse happened.

              I do not prove the correctness of Orthodoxy, I simply showed its practical value for the education of a warrior. The dogmas of the church, the interpretation of the holy fathers, faith in one God, give the Orthodox army the strength to perform the feats before which the Japanese kamikaze bow with respect.
              For example: Russian-Japanese war. Our prisoners of war were treated very respectfully, and most returned home.
    2. nerzul
      nerzul 5 August 2013 10: 20 New
      -1
      Huge Nonsense to think that the ancient prophet Elijah of Israel can patronize the state army. Read carefully his biography (reflected in the Old Testament). This man went into direct conflict with the state and did not differ in love for state soldiers (but he burned them alive 50 at a time).
      And in our time (in anticipation of the Apocalyptic events) this subject (the prophet and witness of the Christian Revelation) is called to come into conflict with the Russian state and with that global mega-state that will replace all countries of the world (united under the rule of the coming beast).
      You can arrange any prayers to the prophet Elijah. But this person has cursed the entire Russian state. And as soon as the newly arrived prophet gets the opportunity, it will be the “blue berets” (airborne soldiers) that he will burn for his own amusement (all the more so for the first time).
      The sodom-assault rally in St. Petersburg was by no means a "provocation" but a primitive staging organized by the authorities (a red-haired gay man who went out with a solitary picket knew in advance that the "good paratroopers" would not kill and cripple him, but they would stage a flashy conflict with riot police). The authorities can organize as many dramas as possible, but Ilya vowed to destroy the city of Petersburg first, and with all the tenacity, cruelty and consistency of the ancient Israelite, he will bring this plan to life.
      Elijah the prophet is by no means a "kind patron of paratroopers," but a ruthless loner who has embarked on a warpath with world states. In Russia, one should not expect from him "help", but a lot of monstrous natural disasters (in St. Petersburg). And not patronage, but a mass of self-igniting corpses of cops of GeBya and paratroopers.
      Hoodo will be the one who takes in the patrons of a prophet, for whom no one has asked permission.
      1. Kahlan amnell
        Kahlan amnell 5 August 2013 16: 48 New
        +2
        How to call it that, being an adult and intelligent, a person believes in mythological characters.
        "- Tell me, do you believe in God?
        - Of course not. I don’t have a primitive fear of the moon or lightning, or hail. And so I don’t need fables to sleep peacefully at night. "
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  6. APASUS
    APASUS 3 August 2013 10: 59 New
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    There were two dozen cameras for one gay.
    Who can prove to me that this is not a planned provocation?
    Day Airborne Forces. A bunch of cameras. City center. In the morning.
    Just a mismatch of one circumstance and the guy is dead.
    Now we will begin to carry Western media
    PI .... disliked
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 3 August 2013 12: 40 New
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      Quote: APASUS
      There were two dozen cameras for one gay.
      Who can prove to me that this is not a planned provocation?

      This was to be expected in connection with recent statements by the State Department on the inclusion of deputies Milonov and Mizulin on the Magnitsky list because of their position on the LGBT community. On the White House website, in the corresponding section, the collection of signatures in support of this appeal is organized. The collection of signatures in favor of the entry ban for lawmakers began on July 26, RBC reports. Elena Mizulina was named in the petition the initiator of the adoption of the law "On the prohibition of gay propaganda among minors" and the ban on the adoption of Russian orphans by American citizens. Her St. Petersburg colleague Vitaly Milonov is represented responsible for the prohibition of propaganda of homosexual relations in the northern capital.
      link
      Therefore, this kind of provocation is just right for inflating in the Western media the image of Russia as a backward and wild country where the rights of civilized gays are infringed.
      All the paratroopers again with a holiday! In the popular representation, Ilya the Prophet was a Thunderbolt, a Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt's habitat was considered the sky. Here the paratrooper is the merciless lightning of St. Elijah striking all evil spells unexpectedly and inevitably ... The paratroopers, like the saint himself, punish enemies from the air, landing from planes - symbolic chariots plowing the skies, and open fire - shooting at the enemy.
      Ilya the prophet since ancient times the patron saint of Russian soldiers. About Elijah they said:
      “You pull tight, shoot accurately, you kill the enemy and adversary, and you burn with fire ...”
      They addressed the saint in protective conspiracies and prayers before the battle. On Ilyin’s day, back in ancient times, they glorified the valor of defending soldiers. And in our time, on August 2, on the day of the formidable, severely punishing the enemies of Elijah the Prophet, it may be not an accidental coincidence that they celebrate Airborne Forces Day.
      These associations were inspired by this photo story.
      The author is definitely a plus
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      2. Hort
        Hort 5 August 2013 09: 21 New
        +2
        In the popular representation, Ilya the Prophet was a Thunderbolt, a Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt's habitat was considered the sky.
        everything is even somewhat simpler: Perunov it used to be a day. One of at least (there are two or three of them in a year)
      3. Kahlan amnell
        Kahlan amnell 5 August 2013 16: 52 New
        +1
        The saint was addressed to the guard conspiracies

        Pure paganism. laughing
        For completeness, add a list of pagan thunders. lol
    2. Argon
      Argon 3 August 2013 13: 05 New
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      Thanks to the site’s administration, I understood (looked) the reason for the “negative.” I can’t disagree with the opinion of APASUS and other commentators about the planned provocation. But to be honest, I evoked a sense of pride, the actions of the paratroopers, they did not give in to the provocation. he didn’t threaten, and even more so didn’t beat him, he was offered to talk, the guy posed (in front of the cameras) asked the “redhead” several questions, after which the “redhead” started running away towards the police, which was obviously caused by his “mental ill health” ( given the purpose of the action) or banal cowardice (but the situation was far from critical). The veterans of the airborne forces did not even have time to express to the “redhead” (and in fact the whole liberalism in the Russian Federation) their attitude (which coincides with the opinion of the majority of Russian residents) to the “problem”. But with regard to the riot police, the questions of why the paratroopers were detained? In my opinion, the "evacuation of the" redhead "would be quite enough. Given the traditional" graters "with the police / police, the paratroopers behaved more than TOLERANT.
      1. chehywed
        chehywed 4 August 2013 02: 56 New
        +2
        Sergey Vladimirovich, humor will save the world!
      2. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 5 August 2013 10: 54 New
        +1
        But with regard to the riot police, questions about why the paratroopers were detained?
        The question is generally to law enforcement agencies, why immediately this pi ... a-provocateur was not detained! hi
    3. slav4ikus
      slav4ikus 4 August 2013 11: 58 New
      +4
      let Pi ... sy love themselves secretly and far from us
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  8. PValery53
    PValery53 3 August 2013 11: 14 New
    +9
    The solemn part looks noble. And if later they slightly harmed harmlessly, then it is completely excusable. Bogatyrs of Russia! Happy Holiday!
  9. Max otto
    Max otto 3 August 2013 11: 26 New
    +7
    I don’t know about you, but I like the shape of the Afghan sample the most. With the past of all the paratroopers.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 3 August 2013 15: 40 New
      +6
      in general, the uniform is not the main thing even in the landing, or in other troops. but personally, these skullcaps are also not to my liking. And before, the berets were beaten, sutured, wringed .. but not to that extent. let a little bit, but I like the suture more. well and personal nostalgia for the "oak". the guy of the Afghan man jump suit normal-agree
  10. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 3 August 2013 11: 33 New
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    Photos class .. !!! Russian Orthodox Airborne !!!
  11. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 3 August 2013 11: 35 New
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    Since I had to work yesterday, I CONGRATULATE ALL WHO WHO SERVED AND SERVICE ON THE AIRCRAFT today!
  12. Seraph
    Seraph 3 August 2013 11: 37 New
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    Powerfully!
    The correct orientation of the airborne forces is especially pleasing: the feast began with the Orthodox service and the procession
  13. Retx
    Retx 3 August 2013 11: 47 New
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    Celebrating Airborne Forces Day, three Russian tourists accidentally broke up a protest in Egypt (c) With the past, guys!
  14. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 3 August 2013 11: 49 New
    +2
    Everything is fine, only with what side did the ROC stick to it. All the exploits of the Marines were without the influence of the church. Oh already minus stuck, and that I have not written the truth? refute)))
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 3 August 2013 11: 58 New
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      Quote: vladsolo56
      All is nothing, only with what side here the Russian Orthodox Church cleaved

      Ilyin’s day coincided with another holiday, completely secular - Day of the Airborne Forces. The Biblical prophet in the Slavic folk tradition turned into the lord of thunder and heavenly fire, which destroys all evil spirits ...
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      2. Kahlan amnell
        Kahlan amnell 5 August 2013 16: 57 New
        +1
        The Biblical prophet in the Slavic folk tradition turned into the lord of thunder and heavenly fire, which destroys all evil spirits ...

        Tell the truth - the Church glued the biblical Ilya the prophet to the Slavic god Perun.
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    3. Svobodny
      3 August 2013 12: 09 New
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      Quote: vladsolo56
      Everything is fine, only with what side did the ROC stick to it. All the exploits of the Marines were without the influence of the church.

      You tell them that ...
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 3 August 2013 14: 32 New
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        And here it is, to you that each of them confessed, which is really stupid to write
        1. vladsolo56
          vladsolo56 3 August 2013 16: 21 New
          +2
          Some kind of Middle Ages,
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 3 August 2013 16: 28 New
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            Do not pay attention. This is not the Middle Ages - these are our contemporaries. Take and respond to this comment with this photo is tenacity.
            as an argument invoking these guys is the top hypocrisy
            1. shpuntik
              shpuntik 4 August 2013 00: 51 New
              +4
              Gleb RU Yesterday, 16:28 ↑
              Do not pay attention. This is not the Middle Ages - these are our contemporaries. Take and respond to this comment with this photo is tenacity.
              as an argument invoking these guys is the top hypocrisy

              http://3rm.info/35257-svyaschenniki-i-monahi-veterany-velikoy-otechestvennoy-voyny.html

              One of the Middle Ages is fancied, the other is "tenacity" :-)
              How can one not learn from the exploits of contemporaries? Ask about arch. Alipia, as he came to the monastery, in Soviet times, when the carvings were only on the party line.

              http://3rm.info/35257-svyaschenniki-i-monahi-veterany-velikoy-otechestvennoy-voy
              ny.html
              1. Hleb
                Hleb 4 August 2013 09: 20 New
                +4
                How can one not learn from the exploits of contemporaries?
                but where and who was against training in feats and praising feats? It needs to be done and an example with the dead guys should be given on this day. But where does the religion come from in a specific comment? Who gave the right to use this photo? Or maybe God would like evil to those days were triumphing, and the guys died? so that the relatives saw new gray hair in their hair every day? did this please God? nah .. poke these photos to where you cannot explain with words ...
              2. s1н7т
                s1н7т 4 August 2013 17: 12 New
                -3
                Quote: shpuntik
                Ask about arch. Alipia, how he came to the monastery in Soviet times, when

                Ask for a diagnosis ?! laughing
          2. Zhenya
            Zhenya 3 August 2013 21: 47 New
            -1
            So go to Europe, where it’s not been the Middle Ages for a long time, you want to be blue, etc., etc. And we have the Middle Ages, where there is the Orthodox faith, where kids are baptized, where it is forbidden to show their fagot orientation, etc., etc. I do not like Europe to help you.
            1. vladsolo56
              vladsolo56 4 August 2013 09: 08 New
              +9
              It is not necessary to publicly display their lack of culture. If you consider only yourself decent, and anyone who does not agree with you dishonorable, you can live in the forest, But I won’t go to Europe, I live at home. What a habit if someone is against the church so immediately blue, dishonestly not knowing the person to classify him as a freak.
            2. nemec55
              nemec55 4 August 2013 12: 04 New
              0
              How long have they gone to church to confess and fast?
              1. Kahlan amnell
                Kahlan amnell 5 August 2013 17: 01 New
                -2
                How long have they gone to church to confess and fast?

                But why?
            3. urganov
              urganov 4 August 2013 13: 40 New
              -3
              You understand what you said?
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          3. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 4 August 2013 05: 02 New
            +3
            Quote: vladsolo56
            Some kind of Middle Ages,

            I do not like Russia, go to Europe, there is no longer faith there, you will rejoice at "freedom"
            1. vladsolo56
              vladsolo56 4 August 2013 09: 10 New
              0
              Russia is my homeland, and it’s not for you to tell me where and how to live, who gave you the right to dispose of it, I can tell you the same way I don’t like vali. Who told you that Russia is an Orthodox country? if you yourself have decided so, this does not mean at all.
              1. Zhenya
                Zhenya 4 August 2013 10: 31 New
                +2
                She is a millennium Orthodox country, was and will be.
                1. s1н7т
                  s1н7т 4 August 2013 17: 21 New
                  +3
                  Just a millennium? And before it was not there, or what? After all, Orthodox Christianity is not a Russian religion, for that matter. Why are you holding onto everything else?
                  1. Doctor_BW
                    Doctor_BW 4 August 2013 18: 07 New
                    +1
                    I support) What happened before ... Hordes of uneducated Slavs, as the Gundyaev said?
                    1. artemiy
                      artemiy 5 August 2013 12: 48 New
                      +1
                      Do you still remember the peticanthropes or Neanderthals! Russia is a multi-confessional country with 80% Orthodox!
                      1. s1н7т
                        s1н7т 5 August 2013 23: 28 New
                        +1
                        Quote: artemiy
                        Russia is a multi-confessional country with 80% Orthodox!

                        Pi-pez, blatant lie! 80% of whom? From believers to another reality! And, thank God, they are a minority in our country, more educated and reasonable so far. I hope that with the departure of the "puddings" and the Russian Orthodox Church will die in the dustbin of history.
                      2. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 5 August 2013 23: 30 New
                        0
                        And thank God ....... they surrendered themselves laughing
                    2. Hon
                      Hon 7 August 2013 18: 06 New
                      +2
                      Quote: artemiy
                      Russia is a multi-confessional country with 80% Orthodox!

                      Many of these 80% (75% according to VTsIOM) do not even know how to baptize correctly, and if they go to church, several times a year, as if in a certain service of public services - to bless the Easter cake, take baptismal water ... And some of them even then he does not go, moreover, many may not believe in God, but at the same time they call themselves Orthodox.
                2. late
                  late 4 August 2013 19: 35 New
                  +4
                  Let it be known to you that Orthodoxy in Russia was closely intertwined with the ancient beliefs of the Slavs. So, Ilya - the prophet was associated with Perun, thunder peals - this is the roar of his cart, my grandmother still says so. It was believed that a rare Ilyin passes without a thunderstorm . Memorial Day of St. John became Ivan Kupala, birch trees are brought to the Trinity church - a symbol of holy purity among all Slavs, and on the shelf in the red corner next to the image of the Virgin Mary were ancient Slavic charms. You decide what you yourself decide, but do not swindle at the sacred, God sees everything.
                  1. s1н7т
                    s1н7т 5 August 2013 23: 23 New
                    +3
                    Quote: spat
                    do not sway at the holy

                    Holy - family, friends, oath, homeland. Where is the place for primitive religions ?! soldier
                3. shpuntik
                  shpuntik 4 August 2013 22: 14 New
                  +3
                  s1n7t (5) RU Today, 17:21 ↑
                  Just a millennium? And before it was not there, or what? After all, Orthodox Christianity is not a Russian religion, for that matter. Why are you holding onto everything else?

                  smile Not here: YOUR-MY. The sun shines both good and evil. One God, for all. It's just that everyone understands it differently. The truth is one.
                  And, the Slavs (our ancestors, thank them for everything) had polytheism, to say paganism, which is slightly better than atheism, but not so much as to be written in the Book of Life.
                  1. s1н7т
                    s1н7т 7 August 2013 19: 23 New
                    +1
                    Quote: shpuntik
                    One God, for all

                    Is this the decision of the Great Synod?laughing Each for himself decides what, in whom to believe, if he needs it. I had no god, except for the commander, and faith, except faith in my soldiers and Luck. Put the rest for yourself ... to hell!
                4. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 5 August 2013 03: 35 New
                  0
                  Quote: c1n7
                  . Why are you holding onto everything else?

                  This is the faith of your ancestors, who defended their country with this faith. Patriots are a keyboard damn, one of the President of Russia calls Pu, and the name of Obama is completely written, the second Patriarch by name is deliberately called. Not tired yet?
                  1. Hon
                    Hon 7 August 2013 18: 10 New
                    0
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    one of the President of Russia calls Pu, and the name of Obama is completely written, the second Patriarch by name is deliberately named.

                    It’s too long to write Black Barack))) The patriarch, by the way, didn’t disdain his last name when he sued the apartment ...
                  2. s1н7т
                    s1н7т 7 August 2013 22: 15 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    This is the faith of your ancestors

                    "Poke" also "faith of ancestors" instills? And where does such dumb confidence come from? Religion, when it ceases to be a personal matter, always ends with the Inquisition - they either burn apologists, or they. In any case, it’s bad. So believe in silence, I don’t mind. But our state is secular, to say otherwise is to encroach on the Constitution.
              2. vladsolo56
                vladsolo56 4 August 2013 17: 51 New
                -3
                It was, but it won’t be as if you didn’t want it
            2. Ascetic
              Ascetic 4 August 2013 11: 16 New
              +7
              Quote: vladsolo56
              Who told you that Russia is an Orthodox country?


              We must generally forget this commonplace term: a multiconfessional country. Russia is an Orthodox country with national and religious minorities. Because all the statistics that are conducted in our country give a very clear picture of the presence of minorities and an absolute Orthodox majority. By the way, sometimes we timidly say that yes, you know, it may not be necessary to include the “religion” column of the census. And I think that it would be necessary to include. And once and for all put an end to all these speculations about multiconfessionality. If we have 4-5% of Muslims (this is the statistics), then this is not multiconfessionality - this is a minority. If we have less than 1% of people of non-Orthodox Christians, this is a minority. Another conversation is that the minority cannot be discriminated against. The minority should feel as good as the majority. If we want to be a normal society, we should not oppress anyone, but based on the very fact of the presence of a minority in our society, it is impossible to discriminate the majority.

              Patriarch Kirill said this in an interview while still a metropolitan. And he is right. All these concepts, the multinational people of the Russian Federation in the Constitution instead of the state-forming Russian and indigenous and small peoples of Russia and multiconfessionality were imposed on us from the hill by the “winners” in the Cold War with the aim of turning Russia into a kind of melting pot of nations and religions, which in their opinion will lead first to collapse in the minds and hearts and then to the collapse of Russia precisely as the Orthodox and Russian state-Empire.
              1. vladsolo56
                vladsolo56 4 August 2013 17: 53 New
                +1
                Russia kept a calendar until the baptism of 5 thousand years, and now a thousand or so little Orthodoxy, and someone dares to say that Russia has always been Orthodox.
                1. Doctor_BW
                  Doctor_BW 4 August 2013 18: 09 New
                  +1
                  As one GRU officer told one Orthodox grandmother, "Your country is a thousand years old, and mine is 954 thousand. And what are we talking about?"
            3. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 5 August 2013 03: 32 New
              0
              Quote: vladsolo56
              Who told you that Russia is an Orthodox country?

              I'm telling you!
              Quote: vladsolo56
              if you yourself have decided so, this does not mean at all.

              Tell you about Brzezinski.
              1. s1н7т
                s1н7т 7 August 2013 19: 13 New
                0
                Quote: Alexander Romanov


                Quote: vladsolo56
                Who told you that Russia is an Orthodox country?

                I'm telling you!

                Are you one of those who writes in the sheds, apparently? laughing But there still are firewood! laughing
          4. s1н7т
            s1н7т 4 August 2013 17: 18 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: vladsolo56
            Some kind of Middle Ages,

            I do not like Russia, go to Europe, there is no longer faith there, you will rejoice at "freedom"

            A. Romanov, nothing personal, I'm sorry, but if you had told me this on August 2 at the Sovetskaya Army square, you would not have been greeted, honestly!
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 5 August 2013 03: 38 New
              +4
              Quote: c1n7
              , but tell me this on August 2 at the Soviet Army Square, you wouldn’t say hello, honestly!

              Yes, even now you’re sick of faith, but I’m afraid my health will not be enough. I’m not a Catholic, but an Orthodox and, if necessary, I wipe it so that it doesn’t seem enough.
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          1. vladsolo56
            vladsolo56 5 August 2013 10: 13 New
            +5
            Yes, and I won’t be surprised who doesn’t have enough brains or waves his fists or tries to spit on his face, and even if I’m not of age, but in return I would have punched you in the face.
            In general, everyone is disgusted, believers call for unification, and immediately offend and blaspheme atheists, and moreover they shut their mouths. How and whom they want to unite if almost half of the country are unbelievers and some other rather big part of other faiths. So much aggression in statements that does not correspond with the tenets of religion. In fact, they are making every effort to divide the Russian society, and not to unite.
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              1. vladsolo56
                vladsolo56 5 August 2013 13: 38 New
                +3
                Once again you’re not cured, the age of 60 says something, but the body didn’t swim, and you pumped it from your childhood on crutches, then with a cane. I can still squeeze out 40 times, more recently on the horizontal bar I was pulled up to 14 times. so be sure if you crashed it would not seem. Although I am not at all a supporter of hitting for any reason. And you don’t need a body to treat your brains
                1. I am a Russian
                  I am a Russian 6 August 2013 19: 28 New
                  -3
                  do not poke "cultural" ... I will not invite to the table.
                  And to embed you need to get in, and this is in your past and don’t shake the air in vain
                2. I am a Russian
                  I am a Russian 7 August 2013 17: 37 New
                  0
                  what ... came to mess up?

                  Quote: vladsolo56
                  age under 60 says something


                  ... yes age says ... you are one of those who, with their "active" work and life position, led the USSR to collapse
            2. I am a Russian
              I am a Russian 7 August 2013 17: 19 New
              -2
              .
              Quote: vladsolo56
              trying to spit
              ... I would do it ...
              a person whose approach to religion, even if in coma, can be considered sacrilege. After all, an article about the elite ... about paratroopers. These are people who are ready to fulfill their duty with honor! The paratrooper going to the temple of God lights a candle for the repose of the dead ... everyone goes with his ... this men and it is their choice.

              These are paratroopers! And the paratrooper is a symbol of strength, courage, fortitude and heroism.

              you write about the believing paratrooper -
              Quote: vladsolo56
              Weak will, weak soul, these are the signs by which a believer can be identified.


              so who are you after that?
              1. O_RUS
                O_RUS 10 August 2013 23: 03 New
                0
                Quote: I am a Russian
                so who are you after that?


                he is the chief accountant ... and he is under 60 - I think this is saying something to you.

                And better -

                Do not tag the bead in front of the pig

                ... this user and paratroopers are like Serdyukov Minister of Defense
      2. Hleb
        Hleb 3 August 2013 16: 51 New
        +1
        but still people thank
        1. s1н7т
          s1н7т 10 August 2013 17: 47 New
          0
          The old video, probably, because back in the late 80s those who let out jump were forbidden - like, there was no one to release). And music is needed different - under this you can fall asleep. And so - yes, but I stopped by the ramp with my hand in front of my chest, I held my hand like that while I examined it, then I lowered it, the other on the shoulder ... Once I examined it, clapped it, and he did not move! Then he saw that for some reason he hadn’t lowered his hand in front of him. And then I saw - the stabilization halyard comes from the armpit. Corrected the case), and he went. And in another climb they overlooked - the same crap, flew, until it began to wave its hands, the stabilizer jumped out, and everything worked out, but while flying, some GVA nicknames turned gray, I guess.
      3. Svobodny
        3 August 2013 19: 15 New
        0
        Quote: vladsolo56
        And here it is


        Moreover, the whole Holy Faith. The guys laid their belly for their friends! For people, for us with you. They simply followed Christ, simply did as He taught, as His disciples taught, as His Church teaches.

        Like these ones
        Quote: vladsolo56
        stupidity
        1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
          NOBODY EXCEPT US 3 August 2013 23: 43 New
          13
          No need to flog nonsense in our time there was no clergy and nothing, you want to say that without faith in the priests we were worse ??? Faith is not in churches and belfries, it is inside you .......
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 4 August 2013 05: 04 New
            +3
            Quote: NOBODY EXCEPT US
            b in our time there was no clericalism

            The Bolsheviks exterminated them, that was not
          2. German
            German 4 August 2013 06: 51 New
            +2
            what d ... minus set? Gold words!
        2. Revolver
          Revolver 4 August 2013 02: 34 New
          14
          Quote: Svobodny
          Moreover, the whole Holy Faith. The guys laid their belly for their friends! For people, for us with you. They simply followed Christ, simply did as He taught, as His disciples taught, as His Church teaches.

          But those who went into battle for motherland for Stalin I put above. If only because they did not count on retribution either in this world or in the afterlife. There were no such heroes before, and are unlikely to be after.
          Well, minusers, where are you?
        3. Hleb
          Hleb 4 August 2013 09: 29 New
          +3
          The guys laid their belly for their friends!
          for your friends, and not for your friends
          They just followed Christ, just did what He taught

          they did not want to die, they were killed! parents! from childhood they were taught to defend the country, the code of airborne courage taught them to protect people and perish for them! but they didn’t read it in the Bible. Which students? whom did he teach? where to follow? can you follow today?
        4. Kahlan amnell
          Kahlan amnell 5 August 2013 17: 12 New
          -1
          as His Church teaches

          "... all you need to do is to observe the New Year, observe and do: according to your wishes, do not do it: they say more, and do not create ..."
          (... so all that they tell you to observe, observe and do; do not act on their deeds, for they speak and do not ...)
          Matthew 23: 3
      4. domokl
        domokl 4 August 2013 04: 53 New
        +8
        Quote: vladsolo56
        And here it is, to you that each of them confessed, which is really stupid to write

        You know Vladimir, I’m just one of those who wore the Orthodox cross for a long time. I don’t already wear the Beret, but I still wear the same small silver cross.
        Maybe this is the Middle Ages, but we are very superstitious people - you can’t shave before the jump, all kinds of black cats, pregnant women and others. And visiting the temple after the operations was the same tradition. We only went to the place where the prayers are now held, but to a small temple on the territory of the Dynamo factory. To the temple where the graves of Oslyaby and Peresvet are located. And the priests of this temple (far from rich and majestic) were and remain our friends and, to some extent, the healers of our souls ...
        1. vladsolo56
          vladsolo56 4 August 2013 09: 12 New
          0
          Weak will, weak soul, these are the signs by which a believer can be identified. Superstition is all the more frivolous.
          1. svp67
            svp67 4 August 2013 09: 18 New
            +5
            Quote: vladsolo56
            Weak will, weak soul, these are the signs by which a believer can be identified. Superstition is all the more frivolous.
            Stupidity - true believers perform great feats. A man must believe in something. And for me it’s better to have such a crucifixion than emptying a bottle of vodka, breaking it on your own or someone else’s head and diving into the fountain ...
            1. vladsolo56
              vladsolo56 4 August 2013 17: 49 New
              0
              Believe yes, believe in justice and honesty, believe in friends and parents, I can understand it
            2. alicante11
              alicante11 5 August 2013 09: 14 New
              +2
              And if both?
          2. urganov
            urganov 4 August 2013 13: 52 New
            0
            It may not be serious, but the nerves are calming, like any belief in ritualism and signs, which is essentially the same thing.
          3. domokl
            domokl 4 August 2013 19: 45 New
            +5
            Quote: vladsolo56
            Weak will, weak soul, these are the signs by which a believer can be identified. Superstition is all the more frivolous.

            Then you can record most of the paratroopers in the weak-willed and weak-hearted ... And at the same time superstitious.
            Only now, where are you going to get orders and military medals from these guys?
            1. vladsolo56
              vladsolo56 5 August 2013 19: 54 New
              -1
              Physical strength is not strength of mind, if a person is not able to morally support himself, then what kind of strength of mind can be discussed. There is still the strength of the collective; the one who can be a hero in the collective will not always be such alone. I do not want to say that this rule is one hundred percent, but in most cases it is. I had friends who passed hot spots. So according to their stories, during the battle, everything but anger leaves somewhere. I have no reason not to believe them.
        2. urganov
          urganov 4 August 2013 13: 49 New
          0
          With all due respect to you, let me ask, are superstitions and Orthodoxy synonymous?
          Quote: domokl
          but we are very superstitious people - you can’t shave before the jump, all kinds of black cats, pregnant women and others. And visiting the temple after operations was the same tradition.
          1. domokl
            domokl 4 August 2013 19: 51 New
            +4
            Quote: urganov
            let me ask, superstition and Orthodoxy are synonyms

            So I don’t teach Russian ... I write only what I know ... I don’t want to get involved in the discussion about how I need and how I am
        3. s1н7т
          s1н7т 4 August 2013 17: 31 New
          +4
          Quote: domokl
          we are very superstitious people - you can’t shave before the jump, all kinds of black cats, pregnant women and other

          You are so modest about yourself - We are! laughing And we - soldiers / officers of the 80s - 90s - wanted to sneeze for signs, crosses and so on. husk, and what - worse from this jumped, went to surgery? Chuhnya, however! Religion is a personal business of everyone, intimate. The intimacy of intimacy is vulgarity, in my opinion. But the army and Reigia are not compatible at all. After Chechnya, “believers” should not be cited as an example.
          1. domokl
            domokl 4 August 2013 19: 49 New
            +3
            Quote: c1n7
            And we - soldiers / officers of 80's - 90's - wanted to sneeze at signs

            And we are also officers of 80's ... And we didn’t sneeze ... So we served in different armies, or at least in different climatic zones ...
            1. s1н7т
              s1н7т 5 August 2013 23: 21 New
              +2
              Quote: domokl
              in different climatic zones ...

              Somehow an officer came to me from a "different climatic zone" (separate arm. Company) - he was no different from us in "superstition." And from my release, only two “fell ill”, as far as I know from personal communication, after Chechnya, although many served further south. One of them returned from Ethiopia that year, right now they put an iron knee, they didn’t see them with crosses, they weren’t superstitious. So do not generalize, please! There should be one religion in the army - an order; for the rest, let the political leaders be returned.
    4. Hon
      Hon 3 August 2013 19: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: Svobodny
      You tell them that ...

      And by what right do you speak for them? Served with them? Were there when they died?
      1. domokl
        domokl 4 August 2013 05: 00 New
        +4
        Quote: Hon
        And by what right do you speak for them? Served with them? Were there when they died?

        I don’t know how free, but I have such a right. I didn’t serve with these fighters, but I sent my friends home enough.
        You know how in the song “And where do you find a saint to go to the landing. There are really few saints among us, but never one was an atheist. Faith helps to survive and win. Not only the Orthodox, but faith in general. Muslims fought no worse than us.
        1. urganov
          urganov 4 August 2013 13: 56 New
          +2
          Rather, it’s not even faith in the religious sense, but faith in one’s rightness, in the rightness of one’s business, attitude, but in fact in firmness of spirit.
      2. s1н7т
        s1н7т 4 August 2013 17: 36 New
        -1
        Quote: Hon
        Were there when they died?

        Probably prayed
  15. Zhenya
    Zhenya 3 August 2013 13: 35 New
    -4
    Since you live in a country in which the Russian Orthodox Church has always (except during Soviet times) sent soldiers to war.
    1. does it
      does it 3 August 2013 14: 44 New
      +2
      Quote: Marrying
      Since you live in a country in which the Russian Orthodox Church has always (except during Soviet times) sent soldiers to war.

      Politicians are sent to war.
      1. Zhenya
        Zhenya 3 August 2013 21: 41 New
        +9
        Good! I will fix escorted to war.
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 3 August 2013 23: 45 New
          +4
          Quote: Marrying
          Good! I will correct, escorted to war.

          And in the difficult years of struggle with parabotals, BLESSED Russian army.
          1. s1н7т
            s1н7т 4 August 2013 17: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: Corsair
            And in the difficult years of the struggle with the parabotors, I BLESSED the Russian army

            Ahrinitelnoe participation! Zampolites brought more benefits laughing
  16. O_RUS
    O_RUS 3 August 2013 22: 47 New
    +3
    it's you ... how sideways stuck your koment here?

    on ka ... reason

    "A new tradition that has developed over the past five years - the joint celebration of Ilyin’s Day by the Russian Orthodox Church and the Russian Airborne Troops - is aimed at" the revival of our spiritual and moral dignity, "priest Andrei Rechitsky said in an interview with Blagovest-info. He is "The rector of the church of St. Prophet Elijah on Ilyinka, which, being the home church of the Airborne Forces, has become the church center of celebrations over the years. The Holy Prophet Elijah in the Airborne Forces is revered as the patron saint of this kind of troops."
    Based on materials from the Religious Information Agency Blagovest-Info
    http://www.blagovest-info.ru/
    1. urganov
      urganov 4 August 2013 13: 58 New
      +1
      This speaks of the "implication" of the Russian Orthodox Church.
      1. O_RUS
        O_RUS 4 August 2013 22: 44 New
        +3
        Quote: urganov
        This speaks of the "implication" of the Russian Orthodox Church.


        Your koment speaks of yours .... And the paratroopers themselves will decide whether to believe them in gods ... whether to wear a cross ... whether to go to the temple of God.
        1. urganov
          urganov 5 August 2013 14: 12 New
          +2
          O_RUS (2) Yesterday, 22:44 PM ↑
          "they will decide whether to believe them in gods ... whether to wear a cross ... whether to go to the temple of God."

          Absolutely agree. Faith, religion and the Russian Orthodox Church are three different things.
  • Corsair
    Corsair 3 August 2013 12: 00 New
    12
    Former paratrooper Airborne

    Former paratroopers do not happen, like all the rest of the defenders of the fatherland
    Happy holiday!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 3 August 2013 12: 25 New
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      Quote: Corsair
      Former paratroopers DO NOT HAPPEN

      +++++ !!!!!
      And here's another little confirmation - funny, in honor of the holiday ...
      This is from the story of a friend of mine who visited the Dominican Republic (on vacation)

      paratrooper in the Dominican Republic


      "But this car is designed to transport tourists on excursions such as safaris.
      I didn’t understand right away, then I took a closer look ... There you have it - Airborne Adventure !!! In the Dominican Republic, yours! With a blue beret and in a vest.
      It turned out that the owner of the shop is a graduate of the Ryazan Higher Airborne School named after V.F. Margelova. No more, no less, and although the theme of "safari" is no sideways to the landing, the man rested - I want there to be airborne forces. The Russian tourist is impressed.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 3 August 2013 12: 00 New
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    Quote: vladsolo56
    Everything is fine, only with what side did the ROC stick to it. All the exploits of the Marines were without the influence of the church.

    You are wrong .. All the grandmothers were and they prayed for their grandchildren .. always.! (We kind of laughed at them ..) but at a difficult moment they felt .. their support .. (grandmother’s mother grandmother .. they prayed quietly at night for my sons grandchildren and great-grandchildren) ... Thank you all to them !!
    1. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell 5 August 2013 17: 19 New
      +1
      quietly at night they prayed for their sons, grandchildren and great-grandchildren

      Here IT worthy of respect, not a pompous booth.
  • Apollo
    Apollo 3 August 2013 12: 09 New
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    Dear visitors of the VO forum.
    This topic discusses the topic "Ilyin Day" Airborne (photo) and not the topic of sexual minorities. For this reason, the video posted by the visitor on the conflict of paratroopers with the police over a representative of sexual minorities was deleted by me. The reason, due to deviation from the topic. Please keep to the above topic. I hope for understanding.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 3 August 2013 12: 16 New
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      Quote: Apollon
      Dear visitors of the VO forum.
      This topic discusses the theme "Ilyin Day" of the Airborne Forces (photo report) and not the topic of sexual minorities.

      And rightly so, there is nothing to pour water on the mill of gay propaganda ...
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 3 August 2013 13: 53 New
    +6
    Quote: Corsair
    Quote: Apollon
    Dear visitors of the VO forum.
    This topic discusses the theme "Ilyin Day" of the Airborne Forces (photo report) and not the topic of sexual minorities.

    And rightly so, there is nothing to pour water on the mill of gay propaganda ...

    They climb into our souls .. (spit on monitors .. from anger ..) This is normal .. The most important thing is that the majority understands all this .. !! be vigilant .. Liberasts do not sleep and hunt for our souls .. (wrote a little pompous and yet just analysis and observation ..)
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 3 August 2013 16: 53 New
    +5
    Good report, sincere.
  • Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 3 August 2013 17: 17 New
    +2
    Why such a shameful parade? The feeling of absolute cheapness. (((((
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 3 August 2013 17: 33 New
      +2
      at least this parade is similar to Soviet psh. but for some people there is a “desert storm”
      there are others
  • maestro123
    maestro123 3 August 2013 17: 59 New
    +6
    I always felt sympathy for the Airborne Forces, serving them is very difficult, but prestigious!
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 4 August 2013 17: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: maestro123
      Airborne, serving them is very difficult, but prestigious!

      No, serving is just hard. And prestigious - this is later, after the demobilization, for a glass of tea laughing
  • 6216390
    6216390 3 August 2013 18: 36 New
    10
    The church and the landing are the closest to God.
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 3 August 2013 19: 28 New
      +7
      .................
    2. Alex 241
      Alex 241 3 August 2013 19: 35 New
      +6
      ..............................
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 3 August 2013 19: 38 New
        +8
        ........................................
      2. Hleb
        Hleb 3 August 2013 20: 03 New
        +1
        ..............................
        1. Anat1974
          Anat1974 3 August 2013 20: 56 New
          +6
          The trenches were, are and will be. What to do if we have such a gut. The main thing is that these are the right trenches. And atheists are probably still atheists, because they were not in these very trenches.
          1. domokl
            domokl 4 August 2013 05: 10 New
            +6
            Quote: Anat1974
            . The main thing is that these are the right trenches

            There are no correct trenches. If you don’t dig, the time will always come and the position must be changed ... Otherwise, they will be killed either by bullets or grenade launchers ...
            It is necessary to have such an army so that the enemy does not even have thoughts to drive us back into the trenches.
      3. Hon
        Hon 3 August 2013 20: 44 New
        +2
        In the trenches, people feel fear, therefore they pray, and it does not matter to whom or what, even to God even a sack of manure. Warriors prayed before the advent of Christianity, and what does this prove the existence of gods and idols? Even in antiquity, conspiracies from death in battle, and charms, which the church considers heresy and worship of Satan, were popular. There is such a person, Grobova, so he convinced the unfortunate mothers that he would resurrect their dead children and began to pray for him too ...
        1. domokl
          domokl 4 August 2013 05: 17 New
          +4
          Quote: Hon
          In the trenches, people feel fear, therefore they pray, and it does not matter to whom or what, even to God even a sack of manure.

          Not quite right. You talk about infantry. And about an infantry attack variant. When only God or 1 knows who you’ll survive or die only by standing up. The bullets do not fly like a cinematic. The machine gunners drop them in white. And then you got out.
          The landing has a slightly different profile. You are still a target in the air. And then you are already a fighter.
          But after the fight, it was really impossible to light a cigarette ... Hands shook so much that you burn your lighter and eyebrows and nose, and the cigarette gets wet and does not light from saliva ...
      4. Anat1974
        Anat1974 3 August 2013 20: 50 New
        +8
        I agree completely. About 10 days ago, the three soldiers who died in 1941 were buried. I will not describe this whole story, I can only say that neither died in July 1941 near Kiev. And one of the soldiers born in 1913 search engines found a cross in their pocket. Apparently afraid to wear on his chest (there was such a time).
        I myself only thought about God in the war. And I really believe that there are no atheists in the trenches.
      5. Doctor_BW
        Doctor_BW 4 August 2013 18: 15 New
        +1
        Personally, I know such :) True, not in the trenches, but in the mountains with a backpack and akmn)
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  • Prosto vovochka
    Prosto vovochka 3 August 2013 19: 45 New
    +6
    Happy holiday guys! All, regardless of who professes what religion!
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 4 August 2013 17: 44 New
      +2
      Quote: Prosto Vovochka
      no matter who professes what religion!

      The paratroopers (even the Airborne Forces, even the Marine Corps, and even the Special Forces) have one religion - "The task is above all," we were taught this. The rest - then, at home.
  • Erland
    Erland 3 August 2013 20: 35 New
    17
    With day!
    To fear of enemies and envy of enemies!
    1. Sewer
      Sewer 5 August 2013 16: 25 New
      0
      Great demator!
  • waisson
    waisson 3 August 2013 20: 52 New
    +5
    everything would be fine, but in the photo the fighters are shameful or their shameful shape is so disgraceful for me to go out like that ..... oh. where is our camouflage of oak and psh
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 4 August 2013 09: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: waisson
      everything would be fine, but in the photo the fighters are shameful or their shameful shape is so disgraceful for me to go out like that ..... oh. where is our camouflage of oak and psh

      I agree, the form is dumb. Is that the one from Yudashkin?
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 4 August 2013 09: 59 New
        +1
        dumb? so this tunic is most similar to Soviet psh.
    2. roninas
      roninas 5 August 2013 21: 31 New
      0
      As some kind of prisoners ... The form was the beginning of the 90s, when the SA was no longer there, but the RF still.
  • Lyria
    Lyria 3 August 2013 21: 30 New
    +2
    And what does the Russian Orthodox Church have to do with it? We seem to have a secular state. And the Tatars, and the Bashkirs (Muslims), and Kalmyks, and Buryats (Buddhists) also serve in the airborne forces.
    1. Zhenya
      Zhenya 3 August 2013 21: 53 New
      -3
      Yes, despite the fact that BASIC faith in the Orthodox state and serve there basically русскиеand not Tatars, Bashkirs and Buryats. Why do most have to cave in?
      1. Lyria
        Lyria 3 August 2013 22: 24 New
        +2
        Well, yes, if priests on the day of the Navy banned mermaids and Neptune, and soon fairy tales will be banned. It is obvious.
    2. nevopros
      nevopros 3 August 2013 22: 25 New
      10
      But for clarity: the word Russian National the shade did not stick - for Homeland on this earth perished Russian (this, damn it, adj., and not n.), but for the Russian Motherland more expensive than life.

      It's time to revise the "national orientation." But there are more serious things about "national" self-awareness, aren't there?
      1. Zhenya
        Zhenya 4 August 2013 01: 49 New
        16
        Unfortunately, now many are trying to convince and make ALL Russians, understand? An expat from Asia who bought a residence permit is also considered Russianexcuse me, but I didn’t give a damn about this word and I’m proud that Russian, not a Russian!
        1. nevopros
          nevopros 4 August 2013 11: 09 New
          +2
          This is not so simple: working with people from Tajikistan, I noticed that a decent part is turning white before our eyes (they are taking on the positive and not very features of the Russian-speaking World), and for some 10 years are not enough to assimilate (there are a minority of them). The way out seems to me more obvious - to accept young people from Wed to study at regional universities on a competitive basis. Of Asia. I noticed a difference in mentality: there is a friend who is studying at the dentist in Irkutsk, his father is a migrant worker, the difference in understanding of the world is enormous.
    3. domokl
      domokl 4 August 2013 05: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: Lyria
      And what does the Russian Orthodox Church have to do with it? We seem to have a secular state. And the Tatars, and the Bashkirs (Muslims), and Kalmyks, and Buryats (Buddhists) also serve in the airborne forces.

      I will allow myself to remind you of an episode from the Shtrafbat movie that I don’t like ... Before the battle, or rather before death, Muslim soldiers ask the Orthodox priest to take them in. And he does it.
      When a foreign mullah told me a long time ago, not only do you not know Karan, but also the Bible ... And Jesus is also a saint in Karan .. Only his name is Issa, in the eastern manner.
      Ilya is the prophet lord of thunder and lightning, lord of what is in heaven. And the landing also begins in the sky ... Look at the flag panel ...
      1. Lyria
        Lyria 4 August 2013 23: 25 New
        +1
        Do not write nonsense. The film "Shtrafbat" is not a documentary, but an artistic fiction, all the more so since it’s fashionable now to pour mud on everything Soviet.
      2. s1н7т
        s1н7т 5 August 2013 23: 10 New
        0
        Quote: domokl
        .A landing also begins in the sky ...

        Landing in the sky - 2-3 minutes. This is the apotheosis of long and painstaking work on earth, however))) So the "saints" are completely out of place here.
  • Wild boar
    Wild boar 3 August 2013 21: 33 New
    +3
    Well done guys! Glory to Russia!
  • waisson
    waisson 3 August 2013 21: 45 New
    +5
    SLONARY FORM IS NOT BY SIZE IT IS NOT IMPORTANT WHO YOU ARE BY NATIONALITY BUT THIS APPEARANCE WILL DISPLACE THE AIRCRAFT
    1. chehywed
      chehywed 4 August 2013 02: 08 New
      -6
      Yes, they seem to be mummers. Parades did not "fit". And without BERETS !!!
  • dvvv
    dvvv 3 August 2013 21: 50 New
    +5
    Ilya’s day confuses me ... Airborne Forces - fine .. but if Muslims serve in the Airborne Forces or, God forbid, of course the Jews? Why bring religion to the troops? with one ...
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 4 August 2013 13: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: dvvv
      Ilya’s day confuses me ... Airborne Forces - fine .. but if Muslims serve in the Airborne Forces or, God forbid, of course the Jews? Why bring religion to the troops? with one ...
      When by PRESENT“press”, the Orthodox will come to the rabbi, the Muslim to the priest ... The Lord is one, and we are all his children, and all before BAT are equal.
  • Stalinets
    Stalinets 3 August 2013 22: 56 New
    +9
    Personally, I have to the fact that bummers climb into the soul of a soldier, sharply negative. I have nothing against the celebration of the day, of some Elijah. But do not mix the Host and the clergy. Their goals are opposite. I can’t stand the hooters .... Yes, they even invented mobile, landing chapels .... In general, I can’t rest. A landing brothel would be better. laughing Turning your cheeks and loving your enemies is not for warriors. Not that philosophy ... Not for Rex Airborne ...
    1. late
      late 4 August 2013 19: 56 New
      +1
      Actually, you don’t need to talk about what you don’t understand. The Orthodox Catechism explicitly states that a warrior who defends the weak must be strong and his work is sacred precisely because he does not stand up for himself - for his mother, for his wife, for his children. Have you heard of St. George the Victorious? It’s not a business for a warrior to turn his cheek — good should be with his fists. The expression “turn the other cheek” has a figurative meaning, which is expressed in Christian humility before circumstances that you cannot influence.
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    1. shpuntik
      shpuntik 3 August 2013 23: 27 New
      +4
      Asan Ata KZ Today, 23:21 AM New
      Here, in the States, all native children are circumcised according to Jewish custom.

      Interestingly, for the first time I hear about general circumcision in the Sha. Where does infa come from? Reliable link smile ?
      1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
        NOBODY EXCEPT US 3 August 2013 23: 50 New
        0
        Bullshit, most likely propaganda ....
        1. Stalinets
          Stalinets 4 August 2013 06: 30 New
          +1
          True, 50%. Ask mothers ...... yes
      2. Argon
        Argon 4 August 2013 00: 50 New
        +2
        Yes, there was such a thing, until 1995. Moreover, it was not related to religion. It was part of the national medical policy. They believed that this way the risk of infections in boys was reduced. Moreover, the procedure was a prerequisite for continuing insurance (medical). This many discontent was caused by the circumstance, especially among the "Russian" public. I don’t know how the matter ended, but until 95g there was a mandatory circumcision.
    2. Zhenya
      Zhenya 4 August 2013 01: 54 New
      +8
      Asan Ata If the priest blesses me before the battle (as an example), I have nothing against it and no one gets into any soul. And the fact that the Orthodox Church was part of the army (until 1917) FACT and the fact that everything is back to square one, I personally FOR!
      1. Stalinets
        Stalinets 4 August 2013 06: 41 New
        +3
        Good garbage flog. Khazar Kaganate, Svyatoslav tore, without Christianity. Russia, secular state. Read the constitution. Believe, at least in the thick, but in the army, take the trouble not to drag religion from the Middle East. Better take the trouble to find yours, Slavic. She is closer to us by blood! Another question is what is more from RELIGION, benefit or harm. But faith in yourself, in friendship, in a parachute, in AK, should be. "If death looks at a friend, look at it yourself." This is the Airborne Forces !!! And cheeks, let them substitute in other places. Like other places on the body .... yes
        1. late
          late 4 August 2013 20: 02 New
          +4
          You have comments about the "cheeks" in every comment. In such cases they say - I heard a ringing, but don’t know where it is. Do not touch the faith, it heals the souls of people, it takes some away from the edge of death.
          1. Kahlan amnell
            Kahlan amnell 5 August 2013 17: 30 New
            0
            You have comments about the "cheeks" in every comment. In such cases they say - I heard a ringing, but don’t know where it is. Do not touch the faith, it heals the souls of people, it takes some away from the edge of death.

            Excuse me, Alex. Need to clarify whether you are talking about faith or about religion?
            1. late
              late 5 August 2013 21: 09 New
              +1
              I am talking about faith in God, a single all-encompassing spirit that unites all things, I believe in Christ the Savior, I believe in the Holy Virgin Mary, the apostles and Russian saints and I believe in their protection over all Orthodox Christians. Someone will call this faith a religion, not the essence important.
              1. Kahlan amnell
                Kahlan amnell 6 August 2013 09: 40 New
                0
                If religious faith helps you live right, good. But there are other people who do not need religious crutches in order to live properly and be worthy people. Or do you a priori refuse them this?
    3. Revolver
      Revolver 4 August 2013 03: 01 New
      +4
      Quote: Asan Ata
      Here, in the States, all native children are circumcised according to Jewish custom.

      Have you given birth in the States? I think no. Therefore, you either carry complete nonsense from ignorance, or you intentionally lie, which is even worse. Like any fat minus.
      At the hospital, they ask parents if they want to circumcise the boy, and let them sign for the choice. The vast majority makes it purely for hygienic reasons. And religious Jews just do not circumcise in the hospital, because according to the laws of Judaism it is supposed to do on the 8th day, and usually they are discharged from the hospital on the 2nd-3rd, if there are no complications.
      Yes, you wrote “all children” without thinking or intentionally? Because in America, only boys are circumcised, and girls are circumcised only in Islamic countries, and at an older age.
      1. Asan Ata
        Asan Ata 4 August 2013 10: 34 New
        0
        For hygienic reasons? Why weren’t you circumcised then at birth? There was an idea in America to remove the appendix at birth, but no. America-the police state, if they offer it, is difficult to refuse, especially since there is a risk of losing insurance. Naturally, I meant the boys.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 4 August 2013 19: 44 New
          +2
          Quote: Asan Ata
          America-the police state, if they offer it, is difficult to refuse, especially since there is a risk of losing insurance.

          Do you even think what you are writing? I wrote in plain text that, in particular, the Jews do not circumcise in the hospital. Can you even imagine how and for what sums insurance companies would sue if they began to deprive the Jews of cover for following the laws of faith? America has more lawyers than the rest of the world, judging someone for money is almost a national sport, but fat insurance companies are stupidly suing - and this is a chance for lawyers to make millions of bucks is almost as easy as picking it up from the ground. I advise once again - do not write about what you do not know, otherwise it will be complete nonsense. We are in an unequal position - I write based on facts that I myself have witnessed, and you - on unverified rumors and conjectures. I don’t presume to write about the order in Kazakhstan, although I could, based on the film “Borat”. It would turn out about the same true.
          Quote: Asan Ata
          Why weren’t you circumcised then at birth?
          Do you fool around or what? Those born in America, even my children, do not speak Russian to such an extent. Unfortunately.
          1. Asan Ata
            Asan Ata 5 August 2013 11: 20 New
            -1
            Isa Moiseevich, pegestan googling, you are not in the synagogue.
    4. German
      German 4 August 2013 06: 41 New
      +3
      U. Asan Ata! And why do you think go to the priests (priests do you think) a lot of military? (I wanted to write "former" - but thought better of it. "There is such a profession, to defend the homeland ..." c / f "Officers" )))
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  • chehywed
    chehywed 4 August 2013 02: 25 New
    -12
    From the article, some kind of ... priestly bias blows. And more: a veteran of the Airborne Forces ... Which? With dentures? He's definitely not a sapper or a builder?
    1. chehywed
      chehywed 7 August 2013 23: 44 New
      0
      Hm. -12. I am glad that the vast majority of people on the site are sane and thinking. However, none of the "minuscators-tihushniki" didn’t explain to me by what criteria the veteran of the airborne forces should be determined in the photo. I would like to receive a balanced, reasoned answer.
  • faraon
    faraon 4 August 2013 02: 32 New
    +3
    Of course, you can’t say that it’s bad and the fighter doesn’t need too much, it seems to me that this is a voluntary business.
    All this should be at the level of the regiment and no less, in the end they were political leaders, they became psychologists, and why it is impossible to put the church in the regiment. One does not interfere with the other.
    But to attract a division to the procession is, in my opinion, too much
    1. Stalinets
      Stalinets 4 August 2013 06: 46 New
      -4
      Let the believer not interfere! The army and the church are diametrically opposed. Only if they read the Torah !!! An eye for an eye ! This is true !!!! hi
    2. svp67
      svp67 4 August 2013 06: 52 New
      +4
      Quote: faraon
      .who wants to let him believe, well, who wants to let him not interfere.
      This is not for the RUSSIAN army. Our "FOR FAITH" is in the first place.
    3. Zhenya
      Zhenya 4 August 2013 10: 41 New
      +4
      For FAITH, KING and FATHERLAND, understand? That says it all.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 5 August 2013 09: 45 New
        -4
        With these words, World War I was completely dried out. But with the words "FOR THE HOMELAND FOR STALIN" - they took revenge from which the Germans still cannot recover.
        1. d1m1drol
          d1m1drol 5 August 2013 11: 32 New
          0
          for the "dried out" minus. In World War I, Germans also threw lyuley. for which they received a revolution from the allies.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 5 August 2013 11: 42 New
            +1
            They always beat for the truth :).
            Could you name the specific operations in which the Germans “piled on the cradles”?
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 4 August 2013 06: 17 New
    +3
    Quote: faraon
    to attract a division to the procession is, in my opinion, a bust

    In war, as in war.
  • German
    German 4 August 2013 06: 32 New
    +4
    But as in my opinion, "from the cellar" (from Ukraine), it’s not at all too much ... The prestige of the armed forces must now be raised by any means! "Russia has only two allies, the Army and the Navy," someone from Alexandrov said, whether the second or the third, the essence is not important! But the GDP is well understood! .. unlike our "independent and Svidomo" prezik ... Oh! I beg your pardon! Presidents!
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 5 August 2013 09: 46 New
      +2
      Yes, of course, it is necessary to raise prestige, but not with church bells and whistles.
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 4 August 2013 09: 07 New
    +6
    Warrior paratroopers venerate their saint Ilya, the patron saint of heaven. Wonderful photo story. The Airborne Forces proved that they are the most combat-ready combat unit of the Russian Armed Forces. And these guys know how to relax. [b] PRAISE GLORY!
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 4 August 2013 09: 09 New
      +2
      the most combat-ready combat unit
      don't get excited. it belittles the merits of others
      1. roninas
        roninas 5 August 2013 21: 27 New
        0
        Yeah ... You can blame it, but the fighting qualities of the airborne troops are too overstated. In essence, who are they? Infantry, and not all of them even made jumps. tale-You say this to the airborne troops. I will answer 30 times like that, and not at all, I’m alive and well. In general, how can a modern parachuting with the development of anti-aircraft defense consider mass parachuting behind enemy lines? People who understand military affairs will say nothing. kind of troops advertising service in the army, yes. But for me, the same marines proved to be much better in Chechnya, but they don’t go into fountains, and they don’t beat ordinary soldiers of military service because they are not airborne troops
        1. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 5 August 2013 21: 30 New
          +1
          That is why there is always 1 pig in a decent society? Why leave this verbal vyser here, there are profile topics.
  • vkrav
    vkrav 4 August 2013 11: 15 New
    +3
    But it seemed to me that the saying "The closer to the church - the farther from the Lord God" was not invented yesterday ... Yes, and Suvorov’s "Hope in God, but don’t lie!" also not born from scratch.
    In the case of the army, there can be only one “religious procession” - a tank breakthrough to the Atlantic. In this particular case - landing somewhere closer to the White House - which one - choose for yourself. Everything else is cheap window dressing and other "brotherly love."
  • Kostya pedestrian
    Kostya pedestrian 4 August 2013 11: 48 New
    0
    [/ Center


    It’s interesting, but did Abramovich respect me for the holidays, or did the British Sasovians still rule the ball in Russia, having figured out the tidbits of the Jesus Hill (USSR)?

    Happy holiday with more enlightenment and prosperity!
  • niki233
    niki233 4 August 2013 13: 24 New
    +1
    Quote: Constantine
    Quote: Nevsky
    Nevertheless, on the day of the holiday of the Airborne Forces, the provocateurs tried to spoil it. I will never believe that the red-headed gay himself decided to go out and tease the landing. There was media support, and certainly medical guarantees. Sympathetic office plankton, made from a gay hero. They say he has iron eggs, he was not afraid of the Airborne Forces, and the paratroopers attacked him alone:


    Paratroopers, by the way, behaved quite dignified. Otherwise, the police would have nothing to save. wink
    sheer provocation a bunch of respondents and bus bus with riot police.
  • Mikado
    Mikado 4 August 2013 17: 43 New
    12
    this should be the paratrooper of the second of August at the fountain
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 4 August 2013 17: 57 New
      +2
      Class !!! good But, in my opinion, this is the 1st and 3rd, and the 2nd - with a glass in hand - at least for those who are not with us
    2. Kostya pedestrian
      Kostya pedestrian 8 August 2013 02: 19 New
      0
      [Center[/ Center]

      Here sit and read, but why did you get pulled into the maelstrom of life, would you retire to Athos - there nobody bothers you either, and you don’t target.

      These docents will win markets for the Patriots, and bathe in penthouse in San Francisco with splashes of champagne and chicks, but you probably still learn to love your homeland in England.

      I personally rely on Science and the power of Knowledge, the foundation is more marble - than on water from empty to empty

      God pikcher zoў
  • VadimSt
    VadimSt 4 August 2013 17: 49 New
    +2
    The President, with himself, always has two arguments - “Nuclear Suitcase” and the reserve of the Commander-in-Chief - “Airborne Forces”!
    1. I am a Russian
      I am a Russian 5 August 2013 01: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: VadimSt
      The President, with himself, always has two arguments - “Nuclear Suitcase” and the reserve of the Commander-in-Chief - “Airborne Forces”!


      **** You would be the president of Ukraine !!!
  • s1н7т
    s1н7т 4 August 2013 17: 55 New
    -2
    The report commissioned by the Russian Orthodox Church is written, it seems laughing On August 2, he celebrated in his own circle, but among all who were in the square. The authorities offered priests with all their personal belongings, but the bulk came to pl. The Soviet Army - there was no one superfluous, only the police were hanging out, but calmly and benevolently, not coming close to the groups of those who noted. And it was so good - the atmosphere of brotherhood, unity and complete understanding! A friend came from Moscow (DShB, SpN), went everywhere, admitted that it’s best here, even the fenced Black Tulip did not spoil the atmosphere. In Moscow, he says, usually not like that, there is no feeling of unity — the report convinced me of this. With the past, colleagues! drinks
    1. Lyria
      Lyria 4 August 2013 23: 21 New
      +3
      I agree with you. It seems that this is not a site "Military Review", but the site of the Russian Orthodox Church. Me, too, minus the paid for from our church, and the rest bluntly agree.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 5 August 2013 03: 48 New
        -1
        Quote: Lyria
        . Me, too, minus the paid for from our church, and the rest bluntly agree.

        And what is your plus point? For the fact that you sit in faith spit.
        Quote: Lyria
        I agree with you. It seems that this is not a site "Military Review", but the site of the Russian Orthodox Church.

        Do not like going to another site in European, there from the faith, as scalded run away.
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 5 August 2013 09: 54 New
          +4
          Alexander, why can those who believe in spit in atheism?
          After all, no one forbids believers from praying, fasting, keeping religious processions, arranging a beautiful life for priests, etc. But Why force others to do this, those who do not want to “believe” or those who “believe” in other gods? It’s not all the same in the Airborne Forces, this 100% are Orthodox, so why impose on them this neighborhood of the Orthodox holiday and the day of the Airborne Forces?
          If the church wants it so much, then let them create their own military formations of the Cossack type, where only Orthodox believers will serve exclusively. I think then for the country this will be a big plus.
        2. Lyria
          Lyria 8 August 2013 12: 47 New
          +1
          Have you read at least one of my comments? Where did you find spitting on the faith?
      2. Zhenya
        Zhenya 5 August 2013 04: 06 New
        0
        LyriaYou blaspheme my faith and I owe you something to kiss? Look, in Sweden in some cities it’s already forbidden to celebrate Christmas, tolerance? In the coffin, I saw her!
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 5 August 2013 09: 55 New
          +3
          Yes, no one here reproaches Orthodoxy. They just want the right-wingers to respect atheists and representatives of other religions.
        2. Lyria
          Lyria 8 August 2013 10: 53 New
          +1
          And you follow my comments and see where I wrote at least one abusive word about the Orthodox and the church. The only thing is that soon all fairy tales will be banned, since mermaids are already banned. According to the constitution, our state is secular, and its composition is multi-confessional. Gundyaev is not a god or a prophet, but one of the functionaries from the church, or rather, religion. He himself is gay (GRU Colonel Kvachkov said about him -pi @ ar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3YnLOL-MCM) and this is what the Metropolitan says: "We do not condemn a person for his rejection ... "Condemning a person for his personal choice is a matter of everyone’s conscience. Who, if not the Church, speaks most of all about the inadmissibility of condemnation?"
  • DmitryDmitry
    DmitryDmitry 4 August 2013 19: 10 New
    +1
    Real paratroopers !!! It's expensive to see !!! And not those who stagger drunk, but pester passers-by ...
  • Strelok20883
    Strelok20883 4 August 2013 21: 08 New
    +5
    Happy holiday! My name is Ilya, my birthday is August 2, but I'm a border guard. GLORY TO RUSSIA.
  • darksoul
    darksoul 4 August 2013 22: 29 New
    +3
    Congratulations to all the paratroopers on the holiday ...... today there was a big scenario paintball game ... the events of 2000 were recreated when the Pskov assault defended the heights from the superior enemy forces. The conditions of the terrain were recreated very naturally: mountainous woodland, majahideen detachments marched along mountain slopes and in avrags. It was necessary for the reconnaissance group to carry out reconnaissance of the terrain and, when engaging in battle with superior enemy forces, retreat to a height for defense, when we were for the majadheads we took the height, when we were almost for the paratroopers, but such ugly fire from all sides just .... you just understand that well done guys, and it’s not for nothing that they eat their bread ..... on the occasion of you, guys ... for the glory of the airborne forces, for the glory of Russia
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  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 4 August 2013 23: 53 New
    +4
    Honestly, the article has a double feeling. On the one hand, yes, a holiday, all things. But on the other, why the hell is the priest's crap to drag in? More like dancing at a performance by the Crusaders. Everyone comes to faith on his own and this is a purely intimate affair. Nehru, I think, to flaunt it, such as a cross on top of clothes.
  • komsomolets
    komsomolets 5 August 2013 01: 47 New
    -3
    No offense, just in the photo some kind of dead fighters resemble schoolboys who are toxic addicts. They will pull them off for a year, and then bad Caucasians will cut them.