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Russia reduced to a caricature ("The American Conservative", USA)

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Russia reduced to a caricature ("The American Conservative", USA)William Deresiewicz (William Deresiewicz) offers an extremely gloomy look at Russia and its history:


“The Russian people seem to be conducting a long-term experiment on themselves, trying to figure out whether it is possible to organize a society solely on the basis of brute force. The results of the experiment: stagnation, humiliation, alcoholism, despair, kleptocracy, corruption, environmental destruction, anarchy on the roads and streets, the mafia, compared to which Cosa Nostra looks like social workers. This is, of course, not limited to the matter, but it is precisely this that remains steadily the central plot. ”

I suspect that it always remains a “central plot” - including - precisely because people outside Russia concentrate on such things, which they consider to be defining the country, and then make them a “central plot” no matter what going on. Russia, of course, still suffers from illiberal political culture, authoritarian power, corruption, and so on, but beyond that, most modern Western interpretations of Russia have a strange idea that this country is hopeless and seems doomed by history to never do not change. Although modern Russia is very different from Russia twenty years ago, many in the West continue to write and talk about it as if nothing serious has changed in it - or, even worse, as if it has lost some “achievements” of catastrophic 90's. Meanwhile, now she has become much more developed and richer than before, and even her demographic picture is not as terrible as it was a dozen years ago. If someone (like Dereshevich) thinks of Russia, two words come to mind first - “immensity” and “cruelty”, he will probably look for things related to them, in any story about this country, ignoring everything else . If someone thinks that “the darkness seemed to linger forever” only in Russia, most likely, his perception of the history of Russia is greatly distorted.

I’m not saying that Russia has no problems, or that these problems need to be minimized, but constantly assuming the worst and never questioning this version, we produce an extremely superficial, one-sided and erroneous view of this country and its people.
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  1. experienced
    experienced 10 August 2013 15: 47 New
    123
    As always, "drunken bears play balalaikas and go for moonshine in an embrace with men in felt boots" and all this is under the control of bloody Stalin, and now his successor, brought up by the NKVD-KGB, evil Putin.
    Why is everyone so eager to get into the "problems" of Russia? We do not need to instill tolerance and love for LGBT people. Live as you want, but don't meddle with us am
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 10 August 2013 15: 58 New
      62
      quote-Although modern Russia is very different from Russia twenty years ago, many in the West continue to write and talk about it as if nothing serious had changed - or, even worse, as if it had lost some “achievements” of the catastrophic 90’s .

      The United States and the West are not profitable for a strong Russia in all respects. Speaking of the 90's, it should be noted that Russia was a few steps away from collapse, in the literal sense of the word. But as we know from history, Russia has always found strength in itself and emerged victorious from difficult it was so during foreign invasions it was so during times of turmoil and economic upheavals. The population of Russia, the peoples inhabiting it (the human factor) + natural wealth + responsibility for the fate of other nations, will allow it to overcome all the hardships and hardships and rightly re-declare be itself in the near future in the international arena.
      There are prerequisites and desire for this, and this is the most important thing.
      1. Canep
        Canep 10 August 2013 21: 07 New
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        Quote: Apollon
        The United States and the West are not profitable for a strong Russia in all respects.

        The reasoning presented in this article is an attempt to wishful thinking, moving away from reality into a world convenient to the West.
        The more I look, the clearer I see that the West has no future if they do not change their worldview. Tolerance and the politics of double standards will kill them.
      2. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon 10 August 2013 21: 54 New
        +6
        Quote: Apollon
        The United States and the West are not profitable for a strong Russia in all respects. Speaking of the 90s, it should be noted that Russia was a few steps from the collapse, in the literal sense of the word.


        From complete disappearance, more precisely - in the Western press, ideas appeared and discussed to introduce "a peacekeeping contingent to secure the developed, democratic world from the possible threat of the seizure of the Soviet nuclear arsenal by terrorists."
      3. alicante11
        alicante11 11 August 2013 03: 17 New
        +5
        The United States and the West are not profitable for a strong Russia in all respects. Speaking of the 90's, it should be noted that Russia was a few steps away from collapse, in the literal sense of the word. But as we know from history, Russia has always found strength in itself and emerged victorious from difficult situations.


        Unfortunately, not yet observed. Yes, there is an increase in the economy and the level of combat readiness of the armed forces. Yes, there is an increase in political activity and so far quite successful actions in the foreign policy arena. And here I support GDP with both hands.
        But domestic politics does not hold water. Prices in the country are growing, the growth of salaries cannot cope with them. Kommunalka as it was and remains a bottomless hole. Prices are rising, but there is no sense. Education is being methodically destroyed. It is enough only for the Unified State Exam and the Bologna system, there is no point in talking about the rest. Corruption is off the charts. There is no point in talking about it. And the judicial and law enforcement system crushes only ordinary people and small businesses. While the real sharks, who stole millions, sit under "house arrest" or even walk in the status of "witnesses", and even ride with flashing lights. In such a situation, one can speak of a temporary "retreat from the abyss." Because the economic opportunities of Russia are not comparable with the economic opportunities of the West. Therefore, playing by their rules will still lead us to defeat, as it was in 1917 and 1991. As was the case with Germany during WWI. We can defend against the West only and exclusively through the use of the advantages of the socialist system, which allows us to accumulate all funds without spilling them into the pockets of the oligarchs. The Stalinist USSR showed this perfectly. Until we return to socialism, Russia will be extremely vulnerable despite clear successes. But with GDP it is impossible to count on a return to socialism.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 12 August 2013 06: 51 New
          +1
          Quote: alicante11
          The United States and the West are not profitable for a strong Russia in all respects. Speaking of the 90's, it should be noted that Russia was a few steps away from collapse, in the literal sense of the word. But as we know from history, Russia has always found strength in itself and emerged victorious from difficult situations.


          Unfortunately, not yet observed. Yes, there is an increase in the economy and the level of combat readiness of the armed forces. Yes, there is an increase in political activity and so far quite successful actions in the foreign policy arena. And here I support GDP with both hands.
          But domestic politics does not hold water. Prices in the country are growing, the growth of salaries cannot cope with them. Kommunalka as it was and remains a bottomless hole. Prices are rising, but there is no sense. Education is being methodically destroyed. It is enough only for the Unified State Exam and the Bologna system, there is no point in talking about the rest. Corruption is off the charts. There is no point in talking about it. And the judicial and law enforcement system crushes only ordinary people and small businesses. While the real sharks, who stole millions, sit under "house arrest" or even walk in the status of "witnesses", and even ride with flashing lights. In such a situation, one can speak of a temporary "retreat from the abyss." Because the economic opportunities of Russia are not comparable with the economic opportunities of the West. Therefore, playing by their rules will still lead us to defeat, as it was in 1917 and 1991. As was the case with Germany during WWI. We can defend against the West only and exclusively through the use of the advantages of the socialist system, which allows us to accumulate all funds without spilling them into the pockets of the oligarchs. The Stalinist USSR showed this perfectly. Until we return to socialism, Russia will be extremely vulnerable despite clear successes. But with GDP it is impossible to count on a return to socialism.
          subscribe .... hi
    2. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 10 August 2013 16: 00 New
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      Another Russophobian vyser, in this case another terry Zionist by last name Rabinowicz Denisevich. Why publish it here?


      Russia, of course, still suffers from an illiberal political culture

      wassat

      1. experienced
        experienced 10 August 2013 16: 02 New
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        Quote: GreatRussia
        Another Russophobian vyser. Why publish it here?

        The enemy needs to know in person. I think it’s right when they publish articles from INOpress, it helps to see more clearly the nuances of problems. hi Well, I remember the proverb "Rust does not stick to gold" winked We have a lot of good things, there are enough shortcomings too, we can handle it gradually
        1. GreatRussia
          GreatRussia 10 August 2013 16: 09 New
          +5
          Quote: seasoned
          The enemy needs to know in person. I think it’s right when they publish articles from INOpress, it helps to see more clearly the nuances of problems.

          Here, for example, this muck is enough to distribute it http://www.inosmi.ru/.
          And in this article there is nothing new, continuous imposed stereotypes about the allegedly clogged Russian peasant-man.
          1. zennon
            zennon 10 August 2013 16: 49 New
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            And this article is nothing new,

            Please read the article carefully. It is an answer to the unknown to us "vyser" of a certain Deresevich, who spitefully writes all sorts of nonsense about Russia. And this article just says:
            “Meanwhile, now she (Russia) has become much more developed and wealthy than before, and even her demographic picture is not as terrible as it was only ten years ago. If someone (like Deresevich) thinks about Russia first by deed two words come - "immensity" and "cruelty", he will probably look for things related to them, in any story about this country, ignoring everything else. If someone thinks that "darkness seems to have lingered forever" only in Russia, most likely, his perception of Russian history is strongly skewed. "

            Well done author! He sets the brains of every Russophobic bastard there. The author promotes a positive look at our country beyond the hill.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 10 August 2013 17: 02 New
              +8
              Quote: zennon
              You read the article carefully

              Exactly. I read the article, read the comments. It seems that they are from another article.
              1. experienced
                experienced 10 August 2013 17: 11 New
                +4
                Quote: Spade
                Exactly. I read the article, read the comments. It seems that they are from another article.

                It's just that the whole article is copying the text of another article and a small phrase that in fact everything is not so scary. It turned out like in an old Jewish joke:
                Two Jews quarreled, no matter what, decided to go to court. The judge reasoned that Izya should apologize to Abram and say - Abram is a good person. I apologize. It turns out Izzy in front of the audience, takes a deep breath ...
                “Abram is a good man ?!” Well, sorry! !
                The judge tried to object, Izya replied:
                - Dear judge, your words, my music.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 10 August 2013 17: 23 New
                  +3
                  Somehow it's hard written
                  1. experienced
                    experienced 10 August 2013 17: 30 New
                    +5
                    Quote: Spade
                    Somehow it's hard written

                    Here it’s a little different, it’s from the field of political technology, at the household level it would be like this:
                    You work in a team with some kind of X (X, not what everyone thought wassat ) and every day for a week you tell everyone that X de ... o, and then at some corporate party you go out to the microphone and say: "Guys and girls you have heard from me repeatedly that X de ... oh, believe me very much it's a shame that I called X de ... m and very embarrassing. X stand up (he gets up and everyone looks at him) - X you are not de ... o !!! "
                    Do you think X will like this "nobility"? hi
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 10 August 2013 17: 36 New
                      +2
                      Here is something else: some old dispute, a piece of which was pulled out and dumped to us without context. "Inosmi" often suffers from this.
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            2. grafrozow
              grafrozow 10 August 2013 17: 16 New
              +1
              Quote: zennon
              Well done author! He sets the brains of every Russophobic bastard there. The author promotes a positive look at our country beyond the hill.
              Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak promised not to infringe on the rights of homosexuals in Sochi. "This will not happen either before or after the Sochi Olympics." - Europe is happy !!!!
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 10 August 2013 17: 24 New
                +4
                And their rights here in Russia do not infringe anywhere. Including in Sochi
            3. Kite
              Kite 10 August 2013 18: 58 New
              +4
              Quote: zennon
              Well done author! He sets the brains of every Russophobic bastard there. The author promotes a positive look at our country beyond the hill.

              - just not all commentators read Deresevich's article and hung the minuses in the article. "Bombed" reflexively, not figuring out where their own where the strangers.
              1. yurii p
                yurii p 10 August 2013 19: 07 New
                +1
                it's called bombing on squares.
            4. Captain Vrungel
              Captain Vrungel 10 August 2013 19: 44 New
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              Remember! Russia is strong - a terrible dream for them.
              1. Captain Vrungel
                Captain Vrungel 10 August 2013 20: 35 New
                +4
                And this, moreover, remember.
                1. Essenger
                  Essenger 11 August 2013 15: 46 New
                  +1
                  Democracy broadens the scope of individual freedom — socialism limits it. Democracy affirms the highest value of every person, socialism turns a person into a simple means, into a number. Democracy and socialism have nothing in common with each other, except for one word: equality. But look, what difference does it make: if democracy strives for equality in freedom, then socialism strives for equality in slavery and coercion.
                  1. sleepy
                    sleepy 12 August 2013 00: 45 New
                    0
                    Quote: Essenger
                    "But look what the difference is:
                    if democracy strives for equality in freedom,
                    then socialism - to equality in slavery and coercion."


                    In general, socialism seeks with the social distribution of goods among the citizens of their country.
                    It was because of the October Revolution that capitalism did everything
                    to make yourself more attractive than socialism.
                    And now, after the collapse of the CCCP, it is possible to cancel all concessions to the working people - where will they go.

                    "...... It is necessary to achieve such a cultural growth of society,
                    which would provide all members of society with the comprehensive development of their physical and mental abilities, so that members of the society have the opportunity to receive an education sufficient to become active workers in social development,
                    so that they can freely choose a profession,
                    and not be confined for life, due to the existing division of labor, to one profession
                    ."
                    The economic problems of socialism in the USSR. 1952 year.
                    I.V. Stalin.

                    A democracy that strives for equality in freedom is like a tail that wags a dog.
                    The essence of "democracy" in the Western way is when there is democracy for public power and it is completely absent for PROPERTY POWER. And the power of money (property) is more powerful and, moreover, UNCONTROLLED by the population of either country or planet.
                    The main "trick" of the current "democracy" is to CONVINCE
                    all is that this is REAL democracy.
                    But true democracy, in the presence of the inviolability of private property, and especially the BIGGEST
                    private property, in principle, cannot be.
              2. Captain Vrungel
                Captain Vrungel 10 August 2013 20: 56 New
                +9
                And this is by no means allowed.
          2. grafrozow
            grafrozow 10 August 2013 17: 05 New
            +9
            Quote: GreatRussia
            And in this article there is nothing new, continuous imposed stereotypes about the allegedly clogged Russian peasant-man.

            This is not Lapotnik, this is Kulibin !!!
            1. datur
              datur 10 August 2013 18: 41 New
              +2
              [quote = grafrozow] [quote = GreatRussia] And in this article there is nothing new, solid imposed stereotypes about the allegedly clogged Russian man-lapotnik. [/ quote]
              This is not Lapotnik, this is Kulibin !!! ohrinet unit !!!! good
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 10 August 2013 18: 46 New
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                Russian man will assemble an atomic reactor on his knee laughing And we have some girls, American women burst with envy
                1. mealnik2005
                  mealnik2005 10 August 2013 20: 13 New
                  +1
                  That's for sure!!!
              2. grafrozow
                grafrozow 10 August 2013 22: 19 New
                +6
                Quote: datur
                ohrinet unit !!!!

                A frame from an UAZ, but did you see that? A limousine on the go, though the engine is a penny.
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 10 August 2013 22: 25 New
                  +7
                  In Sash aggregate, death to Abramsu laughing
            2. mealnik2005
              mealnik2005 10 August 2013 20: 12 New
              -3
              Yes, which of it is Kulibin - you need to call the crane to load the trunk.
              1. grafrozow
                grafrozow 10 August 2013 22: 30 New
                +5
                Quote: mealnik2005
                Yes, which of it is Kulibin - you need to call the crane to load the trunk.
                Dear, there is no luggage compartment in the cars at all, but this does not mean that the car is not a car, here’s a simple tractor for you. It travels along the tundra and also floats.
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 10 August 2013 22: 36 New
                  +9
                  .............................
          3. Corsair5912
            Corsair5912 10 August 2013 18: 35 New
            +9
            Quote: GreatRussia

            Here, for example, this muck is enough to distribute it http://www.inosmi.ru/.
            And in this article there is nothing new, continuous imposed stereotypes about the allegedly clogged Russian peasant-man.


            Russians and arrogant Saxons have different concepts of freedom, which separates us.
            Any Russian knows that he is free to send tries of any arrogant Saxon and whom he wishes.
            Any arrogant sax knows that he has a choice - to go where they sent or not to go.
        2. Tatarus
          Tatarus 10 August 2013 16: 15 New
          +8
          Quote: seasoned
          Well, I remember the proverb "Rust does not stick to gold"


          And I remember another phrase. "Feces do not stick to grace, but accumulate around in compact heaps. Either wear a respirator and endure, or clean it with a shovel and sweat."
          I still choose to sweat with a shovel than to endure in a respirator. Again gymnastics ...
        3. smile
          smile 10 August 2013 16: 19 New
          +4
          experienced
          Hello! I agree, such articles at the same time relieve some of the illusion that we are so bad in vain inflate anti-Western sentiments, and they are there, dear souls, they treat us well ... it was jarring that the author casually admitted that we have totalitarian power. ..this indicates. that even the sane part of their society, which seems to treat us well, is amazed by the total Russophobic propaganda ... my granny swears at such, "hornless corrrova" !!! ... Granny is right! :))))
        4. grafrozow
          grafrozow 10 August 2013 17: 02 New
          +8
          Alex, have the Americans come up with this task too?
          1. experienced
            experienced 10 August 2013 17: 08 New
            +9
            Quote: grafrozow
            Alex, have the Americans come up with this task too?

            I can solve it, but can American high school students or senior citizens? wassat
            7x = 2x + 100
            7x - 2x = 100
            5x = 100
            x = 20

            Answer: there were 20 patients in the hospital
            It doesn’t matter what task and about whom or what it is, the main thing is to be able to solve it hi
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 10 August 2013 17: 13 New
              10
              Lesh, well, you touched the higher spheres of mental activity, you marveled at it.
              1. experienced
                experienced 10 August 2013 17: 17 New
                +5
                Quote: Alex 241
                Lesh, well, you touched the higher spheres of mental activity, you marveled at it.

                Sash, they have all the propaganda for this and Hollywood has been working for more than 60 years. Zombie affects. History has long since become a "lever of influence" from science. hi And what should they learn:
                How did America wait for the end of the "war of survival"?
                How did everyone fight fascism, and someone made money on this?
                How bravely bombed Dresden?
                .
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 10 August 2013 17: 20 New
                  +7
                  Here is one of the masterpieces, I wonder in what kind of inflamed brain it was born.
                  1. igor67
                    igor67 10 August 2013 19: 55 New
                    +6
                    Hi Sasha! The one who remade in a new way, this morality
                    1. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 10 August 2013 19: 57 New
                      +3
                      Hi Igor there now in the role of villains Koreans.
                    2. Nod
                      Nod 11 August 2013 12: 02 New
                      0
                      well you guys give !!!! where do you find such an interesting movie !!!!!! I will make an amendment. it's not the patient’s brain invented it’s all filmed to make the brains of Americans sick. and even in a country where there are no true heroes, there are always many invented
                    3. Leisure
                      Leisure 12 August 2013 07: 57 New
                      0
                      Glory to North Korea, urrrraaaaa !!!!!
                  2. saturn.mmm
                    saturn.mmm 10 August 2013 19: 58 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Alex 241
                    Here is one of the masterpieces, I wonder in what kind of inflamed brain it was born.

                    A military budget officer is cutting off the military-industrial lobby, worried about losing losses, and creating horror stories like Russia, China, aliens, etc., as it began from the time of the great depression and continues, 17 trillion debt do not care, the main profit is military industrial corporations.
                  3. sscha
                    sscha 10 August 2013 21: 17 New
                    +4
                    This is a parody of themselves ...
                    It would be funny if it weren’t so sad ...
                    Hold the thief, the thief shouts. hi
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                2. zennon
                  zennon 10 August 2013 17: 24 New
                  +4
                  How bravely bombed Dresden?

                  And not only ... Hamburg, Munich ... And Tokyo, March 10, 1945! I am silent about Hiroshima and Nagasaki ...
                  1. Alex 241
                    Alex 241 10 August 2013 17: 29 New
                    +5
                    Sometimes the truth got its own.
                    1. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 10 August 2013 17: 31 New
                      +2
                      ...................................
                      1. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 10 August 2013 17: 31 New
                        +1
                        .................................
                      2. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 10 August 2013 17: 32 New
                        +4
                        The Boeing B-17G-20-BO bomber "Flying Fortress" (proper name - "Miss Donna Mae II"), came under 1000-pound (453,6 kg) bombs from another B-17 during a raid on Berlin. Bombs smashed the left horizontal stabilizer, the plane went into uncontrolled rotation, at an altitude of 4 km due to overloads, its wings broke off and it crashed to the ground. The whole crew died.
                        This is the first photo from a series of 4 shots - the bombs fly to the whole stabilizer of the doomed aircraft.
                        The plane from which the photo was taken is also B-17 (Lockheed-Vega B-17G-30-VE serial number 42-97791, name is "Trudy"). Both aircraft are from the 332th bomber squadron of the 94th bomber group of the 8th US Air Force fleet (332nd Bomb Squadron, 94th Bomb Group, 8th Air Force).
                      3. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 10 August 2013 17: 44 New
                        +4
                        It was a planned disaster. The density of battle formations was calculated by very cool mathematicians. The task was to minimize losses from anti-aircraft fire, while maintaining the probability of casualties from collisions and bombing from other aircraft at an acceptable level.

                        Someone was not lucky to get into the statistics.
                      4. densh
                        densh 10 August 2013 20: 53 New
                        +1
                        There is a feature film on this subject - ,, Memphis Beauty ,,. Interesting episodes
                        meet.
                      5. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 10 August 2013 21: 09 New
                        +1
                        I watched. a film on real events filmed.
                      6. densh
                        densh 10 August 2013 22: 46 New
                        0
                        Respect to you hi
          2. zennon
            zennon 11 August 2013 21: 45 New
            0
            Tokyo March 10, 1945 ...
      2. yurii p
        yurii p 10 August 2013 19: 11 New
        +3
        this is zombie.
      3. Alikovo
        Alikovo 10 August 2013 21: 10 New
        +2
        it’s necessary to distort our history so completely.
    3. grafrozow
      grafrozow 10 August 2013 18: 01 New
      +3
      drinks
      Quote: seasoned
      I can solve it, but can American high school students or senior citizens?

      +++++ Judging by the fact that there is a globe of Mexico, and Greenwich is Washington, you are a MAGISTER !!! Here our grandchildren can’t go around America. +++ hi
    4. Tersky
      Tersky 10 August 2013 21: 12 New
      +4
      Quote: seasoned
      I can solve it, but can American high school students or senior citizens?

      They are strong in geography .. wassat
      1. OTTO
        OTTO 10 August 2013 22: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: Tersky
        They are strong in geography ..

        Rather, dreamers ... I hope these dreams do not come true.
  2. mealnik2005
    mealnik2005 10 August 2013 20: 18 New
    +2
    So what. 20 loonies and all affairs - also a task for me. Another thing is interesting ... We also learned to draw up such tasks from amers.
  • sscha
    sscha 10 August 2013 18: 40 New
    0
    I agree. If you want to solve a problem, take two diametrically opposite opinions and find a middle ground ... hi
  • INVESTOR
    INVESTOR 10 August 2013 17: 33 New
    +1
    I also don’t understand why so many articles of this kind are spread here ... well, they barked once again for the adversaries ... and so everyone understands everything ..
    1. experienced
      experienced 10 August 2013 17: 39 New
      +4
      Quote: INVESTOR
      I also don’t understand why so many articles of this kind are spread here ... well, they barked once again for the adversaries ... and so everyone understands everything ..

      By changing the "barking" and its emphasis on certain points, we can draw conclusions on which tail we stepped on and who trampled it. Such articles are useful, the "iron curtain" no longer exists and we cannot remain in isolation. The European and American "layman" is already prepared for any "chewing gum" that the media give out. They have black (everyone is against NATO) and white (NATO), and we are still able to analyze and "dig" information on the issue of interest, since there are enough information sources now hi
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 10 August 2013 17: 43 New
        +8
        Lesh is a little off topic, he found the material, to be honest, amazed. On December 20, 1943, the Americans carried out another massive bombardment of German cities, using hundreds of fighters and heavy bombers. Over Bremen "flying fortress" B-17 (B-17 "Flying Fortress") Lieutenant Colonel Charles Brown received heavy damage from anti-aircraft fire and, having lost two engines, barely staying in the air, headed for the shores of England.
        Suddenly, a German Me-109 fighter (BF.109), Franz Stiegler, an experienced ace of the Luftwaffe, appeared nearby. Stiegler flew very close to the damaged bomber to destroy it, but saw that the gunner’s tower was covered in blood, and the surviving crew members were desperately trying to keep the plane in the air.
        "At the sight of such a picture, I did not find the strength to finish them off!" - Stiegler later recalled.He accompanied the wounded B-17 over the North Sea, and then, saluting the staunch crew, turned home.
        At the 1986 Gathering of Eagles Air Force veterans' convention, Colonel Brown was asked about the most extraordinary story of his career, and Charles, who had never told anyone about the strange German fighter jet, told this old story. It was really amazing. our lives, he just refused to take them. "
        For some time, Brown was trying to find out something about that German pilot. Finally, his story letter was published in a newsletter received by all former German Air Force pilots. Soon Charles received a letter with Canadian stamp, the letter contained only one phrase: "It was me."
        Brown found only one Franz Stiegler in the Vancouver phone book and called him immediately. Stiegler described in detail the damage to B-17 and how it all happened. A few months later, the veterans met. It turned out that they were separated by only 200 miles between Seattle and Vancouver. Charles decided that he owed something to Franz, and by his order, the artist Robert Harper wrote the painting for Stiegler. Their meeting was excellent.
        1. experienced
          experienced 10 August 2013 17: 49 New
          +2
          Quote: Alex 241
          found the material, frankly amazed.

          In the First World War, despite the general bitterness, the pilots fought exceptionally noble. Maybe due to the fact that everything was usually noble blood or weapons contributed (they shot at each other from small arms), but they were in the course of a duel and did not finish the wounded hi Much has been written about this; not only their newspapers, but also the newspapers of the enemy wrote about famous aces. World War II changed this state of affairs, but the case is interesting. Thank you, I read it with interest. good
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 10 August 2013 17: 56 New
            +1
            http://d3.ru/user/Sam_71 Вот ссылка,очень много интересного.
          2. zennon
            zennon 10 August 2013 18: 11 New
            +2
            In the First World War, despite the general bitterness, the pilots fought exceptionally noble.

            Yes. When Manfred Albrecht Freiherr von Richthofen, better known as the "Red Baron", died, he was buried with military honors by the pilots of the Australian Air Force. But then they were reburied twice more ...
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 10 August 2013 18: 26 New
              +2
              .............
      2. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR 11 August 2013 11: 03 New
        0
        And now what we respect for every lousy little article from a zanyuhanny gazatenki written by the author is not clear what kind of sexual orientation to discuss? That is what the central publications write about and what kind of comments Western politicians release that gives a detailed picture of their relationship to us. And we need to do business (each his own) for the good of the motherland, and not discuss any cheap stuff ...
      3. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR 13 August 2013 20: 10 New
        0
        And now what we respect for every lousy little article from a zanyuhanny gazatenki written by the author is not clear what kind of sexual orientation to discuss? That is what the central publications write about and what kind of comments Western politicians release that gives a detailed picture of their relationship to us. And we need to do business (each his own) for the good of the motherland, and not discuss any cheap stuff ...
  • Revolver
    Revolver 10 August 2013 19: 28 New
    +4
    Quote: GreatRussia
    Another Russophobian vyser, in this case another terry Zionist by last name Rabinowicz Denisevich. Why publish it here?

    It’s with your finger that you hit the very natural hole. Well, which of this Pole is a Zionist? Well, at least read the name and correctly copy it, not Denisevich, but Deresevich (). That the Poles are still Russophobes, so even from the time of the Troubles it is known, if not earlier. But I dare to assure you, your anti-Semitism is no better than Russophobia. This is your obsession, you need to be treated.
    1. smile
      smile 10 August 2013 23: 37 New
      +2
      Revolver
      It is incurable, like pederasty ... unless with a belt ... :)))
  • Seraph
    Seraph 11 August 2013 09: 57 New
    0
    Greetings to GreateRussia! An article from the "American Conservative" was published here in order to show that by no means the entire West, even its media, is ready to treat Russia in a stereotypically simplistic way, like a caricature drawn by a mature Denisevich.
    Many Americans and Europeans, who have retained the functions of independent thinking, want to see Russia and what is happening in it without distortion, if only to "know the enemy by sight." And here is our self-interest: seeing our homeland without the ugly mask of "Russophobic vyser", some Western inhabitants may feel sympathy for us. Kim Philby and others just like that, I think, became our allies - having learned the truth about us.
    So the "conservative", albeit an American "+". We must support honest American journalists in their noble struggle against the savagery, stupidity and provinciality of the West
  • Nevsky
    Nevsky 10 August 2013 16: 18 New
    +5
    experienced
    The enemy must be known in person. I think it is right when publishing articles from INOpress


    Friends, I remind you that Russia 24, launched a series of programs dedicated to the fall of Western civilization. Name the TV program: "Project. New Europe". Six parts, if I am not mistaken: the crisis of capitalism, multiculturalism, European separatism, tolerance and LGBT, I don’t remember the rest. Search on YouTube, very interesting:

    1. zennon
      zennon 10 August 2013 17: 53 New
      +2
      I saw pogroms only on TV.

      Yes! I understood that in Sweden, pi ... c, but I didn’t catch up that much! Something will reach these stupid Swedes when the niggas start to put them in cancer. Niger:
      I came to Sweden from Italy. (!)
      What is wrong in Italy?
      A crisis!

      Well, lope geyrope left? ..
  • SASCHAmIXEEW
    SASCHAmIXEEW 10 August 2013 16: 19 New
    +1
    The most practical advice, do not scoop up to us and you won’t have anything, neither bad nor good, but stick up, rake in full ...
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 10 August 2013 16: 22 New
      10
      .........................
      1. morprepud
        morprepud 11 August 2013 08: 24 New
        +2
        Alex, thanks! Up to this point, I read all OUR men, rejoiced for OUR general indignation ... BUT, I could not say my own, because ALL statements (comments) from the Russian soul !!! More and to add strength was not enough. BEFORE this episode! And now I want to express (or rather add a word to the quote): "HOLY Russia has stood and will stand on this!" - The word "HOLY" is a word that destroys all kinds of "Great Britain", "Great Germany", "Great France" ... and so on. The word "HOLY" does not mean that "all the saints", no, it means that ALL the people of Russia STRIVES for a way of life (that is, the desire for help and disinterestedness!) Or HOLINESS !!!
        Thanks to all the written quotes! And I am proud that I live among such residents-defenders of THIS HOLY RUSSIA !!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Constantine
    Constantine 10 August 2013 16: 29 New
    0
    Quote: seasoned
    As always, "drunken bears play balalaikas and go for moonshine in an embrace with men in felt boots" and all this is under the control of bloody Stalin, and now his successor, brought up by the NKVD-KGB, evil Putin.
    Why is everyone so eager to get into the "problems" of Russia? We do not need to instill tolerance and love for LGBT people. Live as you want, but don't meddle with us


    Something recently a lot of people with their hotel world and a separate Russia in my head. Maybe this is an epidemic? lol
  • Nevsky
    Nevsky 10 August 2013 16: 49 New
    +1
    Quote: seasoned
    We don’t need to instill tolerance and love for LGBT people. Live as you want, but do not meddle with us am


    recourse Soon, maybe prostitutes in the Russian Federation will answer like that if we do not restore ideology and the national idea.

    I fell out of the chair when I heard the answer to the question: 10:01 (minute to the video) ..... Unfortunately, in 10 years, this will be ours without exception. crying

    1. smile
      smile 10 August 2013 23: 41 New
      +2
      Nevsky
      This is irrevocable here ... except that the marsh opposition will come to power .... but they will not come, the people are against it.
  • Vlad-32
    Vlad-32 10 August 2013 18: 07 New
    +2
    How I agree with you! Tired. They have their own wedding, but we have our own. What is the habit of pointing? And yet, without this they can no longer live.
  • juneart
    juneart 10 August 2013 18: 58 New
    +7
    I do not stop laughing at the joke:
    Russian family in the representation of civilized citizens:
    - Honey, I'm home!
    - Why so late?
    - On the way, the bear sprained his leg - I had to unsolder with vodka.
    - Sit down all! Let's drink vodka!
    - Mom, will I go play with the bear?
    - Well, just drink vodka first!
    - Where is our grandfather?
    - He is in the second week in line for coupons for coupons.
    - It's good that he put on his boots and drank vodka before that. And you don’t sit idle - go drink vodka too.
    - Ok, go take a walk, son, and do not forget to write in the evening a report to the KGB! And on the way home, do not forget to buy vodka - it ends.
    - Honey, something hot. Turn off the nuclear reactor, please.
    - Now I’ll finish the vodka - and turn it off, but for now, play the balalaika.
  • Revolver
    Revolver 10 August 2013 19: 17 New
    +1
    Quote: seasoned
    As always "drunken bears

    I don’t know how it is in Moscow, but in America bears on the streets are quite common. Every spring there are about 5 reports in this type of news. Young bears, waking up from hibernation, go to look for territory not marked by others. Well, they wander into the towns. They are shot off with ampoules with sleeping pills and taken to the few remaining islands of the forest that can be called "wilderness".
  • Airman
    Airman 10 August 2013 19: 38 New
    +2
    Quote: seasoned
    As always, "drunken bears play balalaikas and go for moonshine in an embrace with men in felt boots" and all this is under the control of bloody Stalin, and now his successor, brought up by the NKVD-KGB, evil Putin.
    Why is everyone so eager to get into the "problems" of Russia? We do not need to instill tolerance and love for LGBT people. Live as you want, but don't meddle with us am

    The article is clearly custom-made to lower the rating of Russia below the plinth, but do not believe this rubbish.
  • pint45
    pint45 10 August 2013 19: 43 New
    +1
    True idea !! However, they forgot Sidik Afgan that only Russia will protect Europe from cataclysms from the east.
  • elmonje
    elmonje 11 August 2013 04: 53 New
    +1
    But is it worth it to take seriously the words of different depression? :) The dog barks - the wind wears, and the caravan is coming!
  • dmitrich
    dmitrich 11 August 2013 05: 37 New
    +1
    it's just all the scum Russophobian received a task from the CIA
  • Siberian German
    Siberian German 11 August 2013 06: 12 New
    +1
    yes yes yes - and PPSh from birch do not forget
  • Very old
    Very old 11 August 2013 13: 01 New
    +1
    Alexei, I don’t even want to comment. What to answer to DERJMO? It will remain so.
  • MREDBEST
    MREDBEST 10 August 2013 15: 57 New
    +3
    How many of these pseudo-analysts, experts, journalists, critics, politicians who carry all sorts of nonsense divorced, the information is absolutely unsubstantiated :(
    I think it's time to finally introduce international laws that impose responsibility on the media for the information they publish, otherwise half the world will live in the illusion that "the United States is good, and Russia is evil"
  • darksoul
    darksoul 10 August 2013 15: 59 New
    +7
    Judging by the stereotypes described above, they will not climb ... they will bark from behind a hill laughing
  • Vlad_Mir
    Vlad_Mir 10 August 2013 16: 03 New
    +5
    Most foreign authors writing about Russia have never been to this camp and have not read anything serious about it. Scribes have seen enough of American films of the Soviet period. Often, with the naked eye, it is clear that they simply lack education. But these semi-educated coupled with "art" form a common attitude towards the country and its citizens!
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 10 August 2013 16: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: Vlad_Mir
      Most foreign authors writing about Russia have never been in this camp and have not read anything serious about it.


      As a child, I read a book by a European author (who lived until the 20th century), about the horizontal travel of a crew of a crashed sailboat across Africa. The description of the jungle and animals was amazing. Then he read in the afterword that this talent never left his city at all. He wrote a book (thick) from the words of travelers, sailors and crooks (or pioneers?). So these Yankogolovye seem to be the same.
    2. smile
      smile 10 August 2013 16: 39 New
      +2
      Vlad_Mir
      I’ll add, the matter is compounded by the fact that their overall level of education is much lower than ours, no matter how strange it may seem to someone. But higher education is not only knowledge, but also the development of the ability to think independently, training the head muscle .... so it turns out that their propaganda machine successfully invests any nonsense in undeveloped heads ....
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 10 August 2013 16: 04 New
    +4
    All their analytical centers cannot understand our "mysterious soul" .. They are trying to convince (their planktons) that bears live in Russia and play the balalaika ... (we launch sandals into space .. plywood flashes and T-50 fly .. SS-20 are inflatable or wooden things ... and our MANPADS are built in barns with a hangover by plumbers ... bully
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 10 August 2013 16: 10 New
      19
      Well this is certainly a nation of world rulers laughing
  • Unknown
    Unknown 10 August 2013 16: 04 New
    +1
    How tired of these Americans to dirty us.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 10 August 2013 16: 06 New
      +7
      Quote: Unknown
      How tired of these Americans to dirty us.


      And what did you think that they would praise, Alexey (experienced) is right you always need to know what they write about you, foes.
    2. roma2
      roma2 10 August 2013 16: 12 New
      -28
      And how tired other countries are from your attacks.
      1. experienced
        experienced 10 August 2013 16: 20 New
        10
        Quote: roma2
        And how tired other countries are from your attacks.

        Bugaga, tell us which ones? I’m wondering if the Polish press constantly prints articles from the series whether they need to harness when Russia conquers the Baltic states or to sit on the defensive side, while the Poles and the Balts + Bulgaria “squeal” about the grip of Gazprom, and who is stopping them from buying other gas? Ukraine writes about its pipe and "TS collar" ...
        I don’t remember that the Russian press deliberately set citizens up for “the image of the enemy in the person of neighbors” ... They write about EuroPro, but without much entourage, about the death of adopted children from Russia and, perhaps, that’s all. I don’t remember the Russian media outraged at the harassment of any organizations in European countries or intervened in lawsuits in other countries (Navalny) ...
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 10 August 2013 17: 51 New
          0
          Quote: seasoned
          Bugaga, tell me which ones?

          I answer instead roma2 .
          I think that the time is not far off when the question really arises, why in the 90s did this happen to Russia?
          The results of the experiment: stagnation, humiliation, alcoholism, despair, kleptocracy, corruption, environmental destruction, anarchy on roads and streets, the mafia, in comparison with which “Kosa Nostra” looks like social workers.

          It was! Indeed, it was so until recently, yes, that there was more!
          The result of the introduction of a Western lifestyle in Russia, Western values ​​m .. (obscene expressions are prohibited by the rules of the site, unfortunately!)

          Have to answer here and there!
          1. experienced
            experienced 10 August 2013 17: 55 New
            +4
            Quote: Cynic
            I answer instead of roma2.

            Vladimir hi When you undertake to answer for others, at least read the questions. He said that we are making "attacks" in the press on other countries. I asked him what kind of "attacks" our press makes on other countries, and here you are with denunciations wassat
            No offense drinks
            1. sleepy
              sleepy 12 August 2013 01: 18 New
              0
              Quote: roma2
              "And how tired other countries are from your attacks."


              Tired of attacks on juvenile justice, for example?
              "Juvenile justice or juvenile dictatorship?
              Conversation with actress Natalia Zakharova. "
              http://www.pravoslavie.ru/guest/4787.htm

              "... Large families are especially vulnerable (in France).
              Social services say parents are allegedly unable to support their children, and they are easily taken away.
              And there is a paradox. In modern France, as you know, a large number of large immigrants from African and Arab countries.
              Many of them live on benefits. The state provides them with apartments, free medical care.
              But their children, as a rule, are not touched ... ".
      2. Tatarus
        Tatarus 10 August 2013 16: 25 New
        +8
        Quote: roma2
        And how tired are other countries from your attacks


        Who are you? Let's goodbye!!! Do not like to sit on native resources. I don’t understand at all that you are attracted to such a spiteful goblin on a Russian site? Our site and we write to ourselves what we want and how we want. Why are you crawling poisonous snakes? Look at the tongue, do not bite with anger;
      3. klavyr
        klavyr 11 August 2013 10: 42 New
        +1
        rather the opposite laughing
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 10 August 2013 16: 06 New
    11
    Here are the trees, again everything is bad and wrong with us. I'll go outside, catch a bear with a bubble, and we'll sing Kalinka to a balalaika. and there, you see, the mafia with a beer and a hat with earflaps will catch up. Well, we'll spend the night in the torture chambers of the KGB, where representatives of the "united" party of corrupt officials will torture us
    1. densh
      densh 10 August 2013 21: 03 New
      +3
      They forgot about the samovar with vodka. And why are the bears not in budenovki? wink
  • dropout
    dropout 10 August 2013 16: 07 New
    +3
    in most modern Western interpretations of Russia there is a strange idea that this country is hopeless and as if doomed by history to never change.
    The cultural EvGopa at all times simply loved to drink from a huge samovar sitting under branchy cranberries.Let yourself remain with your own, we surely know whose ..... the fly will sit down earlier.
  • burhan
    burhan 10 August 2013 16: 07 New
    +9
    I’ll put a bear to control the reactor, drink vodka and go to visit them on a tank!
  • deman73
    deman73 10 August 2013 16: 09 New
    +2
    maybe it’s time to quit paying attention to the west what they will think about us there, they will say - yes, we should not care about this west, let them think and pay attention to us, what will we tell them and so on
  • 12345
    12345 10 August 2013 16: 14 New
    +3
    Deresevich ... offers an extremely gloomy view of Russia and its history ...


    If you, nevertheless, expected a different look from the "deresevichs", then you, nevertheless, were very naive!
  • rereture
    rereture 10 August 2013 16: 15 New
    0
    Russia, of course, still suffers from an illiberal political culture


    That says it all.

    I do not suffer from non-liberal policies.
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 10 August 2013 16: 19 New
      17
      After viewing, I feel nothing but pride!
      1. chehywed
        chehywed 10 August 2013 17: 14 New
        +5
        After viewing, I feel nothing but pride!

        If I'm not mistaken, this is a clipping from the film "Ours in Kosovo", and a very tolerant one. There was still, as the commander of am. contingent appealed to our commander to forbid to call his soldier "psi. To which the commentator said that they did not deserve anything else. Something like this...
  • MG42
    MG42 10 August 2013 16: 15 New
    +3
    The results of the experiment: stagnation, humiliation, alcoholism, despair, kleptocracy, corruption, environmental destruction, anarchy on roads and streets, the mafia, in comparison with which “Kosa Nostra” looks like social workers. This, of course, is not limited to, but this is precisely what remains the central plot. ”

    It seems that the author sees everything only in black colors, a strange pearl about "humiliation"
    Here, apparently purely personal .. what
    I am not saying that Russia has no problems, or that these problems need to be minimized

    Yes .. contradicts the foregoing
  • Logician
    Logician 10 August 2013 16: 23 New
    +1
    Nonsense and nonsense! They all want to wishful thinking is their misfortune! Do we care what they write about us? We just need to be the master in the place where we are and live in conscience and honor with the understanding that after us worthy of whom are born, it is necessary to leave the main Motherland .... The most beautiful and Great !!!
  • kanevsvv
    kanevsvv 10 August 2013 16: 24 New
    +2
    Quote: seasoned
    We don’t need to instill tolerance and love for LGBT people. Live as you want, but do not meddle with us am

    I agree, we have our own path - albeit a long one, for those who are tolerant of LGBT people, but it is very short to the edge of the cliff.
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 10 August 2013 16: 26 New
    10
    Comparison of American and Russian:
    online.ua / uol.ua

    9 signs of an American.

    1. He is proud that it was America that defeated Hitler during the Vietnam War in Iraq ...
    2. He pays his own child an average monthly Russian salary for washing dishes.
    3. He slept with his psychoanalyst.
    4. He really wants to lose weight, but does not know who to ask how.
    5. Even in the toilet, he uses a plastic card.
    6. Ease of a naughty drunken brawl, he always trades for a tedious trial.
    7. Throughout his life ketchup passes through a red thread.
    8. He carefully monitors the cholesterol level on the label.
    9. At the last moment, he kills all the bad and kisses his wife, after which he is credited.

    10 signs of a Russian person
    1. Can ride a train for seven days to spend a day with a distant relative.
    2. Do not bite after the first, even under pain of death. And also after the second, third and, it seems, the fourth and fifth.
    3. He enters the toilet cubicle, pulling out a ballpoint pen on the go.
    4. Admiringly swearing at the British Museum.
    5. Excited, talking to a doorman or waiter.
    6. Goes to the garage, to the bathhouse, to fishing, hunting and to the theater to have a drink. He goes to his mistress to drink from her.
    7. It is easily finished with the most refined dish with the help of a tablespoon.
    8. Climbs onto the toilet with legs.
    9. His soul is equal in area to five American, three hundred English and eight hundred Belgian.
    10. When giving birth, shouts in Russian.

    Someone will say that it’s not fair - the American has only 9 signs ... I’m forced to note that they used to have 10, but they canceled the sexual sign, as an insult to the feelings of pop stars and politicians.
  • George
    George 10 August 2013 16: 32 New
    +1
    in most modern Western interpretations of Russia there is a strange idea that this country is hopeless and as if doomed by history to never change.

    If we are talking about the adoption of sexual minorities and the legalization of drugs, then the idea is not so strange. In this direction, we do not need to change.
    stagnation, humiliation, alcoholism, despair, kleptocracy, corruption

    Well, in their own eyes they do not see logs for sure.
    the mafia, in comparison with which the “Cosa Nostra” looks like social workers.

    I recalled the story of Zadornov (taking place in reality from his words) about the Russian mafia in the states. So he gives a story about two Russians who contacted the telephone. a company requesting registration tel. numbers called by 100 green / min. Yankees in shock: Who will use your services at such rates?
    - Our business (in the translation into Italian: Cosa Nostra) - ours answered and received the go-ahead.
    They buy pizza, one, dressed as a courier with this pizza, goes to Manhattan and enters the offices (of which there are sho dogs uncut) with the words:
    - A gift from the company to you - and it pops pizza.
    businessmen begin to refuse, then the guy says:
    - Call pl. on this phone, and gives the number. His partner is sitting on the room and playing for time. The result is two (or more, I have listened to his speech for a long time) for two months, two Russian guys "had" all of Manhattan. Navar (I will not tell you the amount), the guys had capital, according to Zadornov, the mayor of New York asked Sobchak for two of our cops to go to his city, especially for such cases.
  • nemec55
    nemec55 10 August 2013 16: 40 New
    +4
    So I don’t understand what kind of country we are looking to the west even as Rogozin said that we are a European state and so on and so on, damn it was just embarrassing to justify myself. Here I served in Novosibirsk, so there they always say Novosibirsk the capital of Siberia, the center of Russia, etc. AP why don’t we tell on TV Russia THE CENTER FOR PEACE OF JUSTICE and so on and so forth And let the bastards choke in their saliva. And ask the liberals to work to give the village a district and let them work for good, I did not manage to go to jail.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 10 August 2013 18: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: nemec55
      why don’t we tell on TV Russia THE CENTER FOR PEACE OF JUSTICE

      The Upper Volga Region is the geographical center of all land on the planet.
    2. densh
      densh 10 August 2013 21: 17 New
      +1
      I was faced with working with liberals-horderodiki. It’s better to go to jail less.
  • a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 10 August 2013 16: 41 New
    +5
    I agree. Whoever comes to us with an ax will leave with an ax in the back!
    1. zennon
      zennon 10 August 2013 16: 54 New
      +4
      Whoever comes to us with an ax will leave with an ax in the back!

      You are not warm-hearted. Can you grease an ax with Vaseline? lol
  • bulvas
    bulvas 10 August 2013 17: 05 New
    +1
    As for the mafia - the Yanks could be silent, they themselves are no better, at least in the recent past
    As for corruption in Russia - their lobbying system will be abrupt, it is not in vain that such a military budget has been inflated. Another point - most Pentagon generals after retirement go straight to the boards of major defense companies. What's this? What is the name of this phenomenon?
    The only advantage in their favor is that the money from the budget passed through the military-industrial complex brings real benefits - jobs, taxes, technology development, and not like ours, are smelted into foreign banks without any return.

    And the oppression of freedom in Russia comes down to the anti-gay law, so here they are not a decree for us.

    In addition, such a total control over the population as they do not have anyone in the world - it's what to call,
  • Yugra
    Yugra 10 August 2013 17: 06 New
    +2
    The rotten nation of Americans is filthy to end its existence, to which they are rapidly moving. So let them think about their demise, so that at least it looks worthy.
  • a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 10 August 2013 17: 08 New
    +2
    Enemies are all the best - birch ax and birch crosses.
  • Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 10 August 2013 17: 10 New
    +3
    in most modern Western interpretations of Russia there is a strange idea that this country is hopeless and as if doomed by history to never change.

    I personally understand their eternal regret and desire. To be in charge of Russia and in Russia. Horseradish, as they say, with butter, do not wait. And to denigrate you can stick out anything. For some reason, their tolerance does not apply to us.
    1. zennon
      zennon 10 August 2013 17: 20 New
      +2
      Horseradish, as they say, with butter

      It’s oily with oil. Enough with them and Vaseline! laughing
      1. densh
        densh 10 August 2013 21: 21 New
        +2
        Solid oil is cheaper, it will cost without Vaseline.
  • bomg.77
    bomg.77 10 August 2013 17: 11 New
    +1
    When every Pide ** Stov comes out that Russia is bad, I feel better at heart. The most important thing is that they did not start to praise.
  • valokordin
    valokordin 10 August 2013 17: 21 New
    +3
    RUSSIA of modern times is a decaying, well-educated society, especially the elite, that is, the stinky elite. We lived under communism in the initial period and did not notice this. They did NOT defend the Secular government because they naively believed in the rotten and treacherous elite of the CPSU when it preached socialism with a human face. That's Judas, count them in the grave.
  • Mark III
    Mark III 10 August 2013 17: 27 New
    +7
    The information in the article is not complete. Forgot to talk about "unwashed Russia".
    Queen of Spain Isabella of Castile (end of the XNUMXth century) admitted that she only washed twice in her entire life - at birth and on the day of the wedding. The daughter of one of the French kings died from lice. Pope Clement V dies from dysentery, and Pope Clement VII painfully dies from scabies (like King Philip II). The Duke of Norfolk refused to wash himself out of religious conviction.
    Russian ambassadors at the court of Louis XIV wrote that their majesty "stinks like a wild beast." The Russians themselves were considered perverts throughout Europe because they went to the bathhouse once a month - ugly often ..
  • kosmos84
    kosmos84 10 August 2013 17: 31 New
    +1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnj2pPhLudU&feature=player_detailpage
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  • VadimSt
    VadimSt 10 August 2013 18: 21 New
    +2
    “The Russian people seem to be conducting a long-term experiment on themselves, trying to figure out whether it is possible to organize a society solely on the basis of brute force. The results of the experiment: stagnation, humiliation, alcoholism, despair, kleptocracy, corruption, environmental destruction, anarchy on the roads and streets, the mafia, compared to which Cosa Nostra looks like social workers. This is, of course, not limited to the matter, but it is precisely this that remains steadily the central plot. ”


    Our answer to the members!

    Western civilization seems to live in the plot of the movie "The Matrix". The advertisements like "Democracy", "Freedom", "Equality" and "Rights", shimmering with all the colors of the rainbow in the media and on the lips of Western politicians, are not built on the basis of law and public morality, but on the universal fooling of the population. In other words, from childhood, as a vaccination against smallpox, a person is inoculated and every minute instilled into the exclusiveness of the rights and integrity of Western democracy and freedom. The results of such a universal zombie: rights and freedoms are realized in the first words of the policeman - "You have the right ...", further, all your rights are transferred to state and corporate interests; civil confiscation, will cleanse you of unnecessary property better than any lads, and without the right to appeal in court; in the most "crap" country, the death penalty is not just a punishment, but a medieval show with torture; complete destruction of the basis of the family, at the expense of homosexuals, homosexuals and other colored "homo" - the concept of "sapiens" is excluded by law; democracy is introduced around the world on the "wings" and "caterpillars" of the Western coalition, or worn out to holes by "these democrats", the UN flag. This list, every "homo sapiens" can go on for a long time!
  • Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 10 August 2013 18: 21 New
    +5
    “The Russian people seem to be conducting a long-term experiment on themselves, trying to figure out whether it is possible to organize a society solely on the basis of brute force. The results of the experiment: stagnation, humiliation, alcoholism, despair, kleptocracy, corruption, environmental destruction, anarchy on the roads and streets, the mafia, compared to which Cosa Nostra looks like social workers. This is, of course, not limited to the matter, but it is precisely this that remains steadily the central plot. ”

    Another ignorant savage from USAA spoke out without bothering himself with mental effort.
    You might think that the Russian people monthly reinterprets, shoots their fellow citizens in schools, offices, supermarkets, on the streets, kills and tortures women and children?
    No, this is happening in USA.
    Or is it in Russia 200 day-trips, ghost towns, 32 million illiterates, 3.5 million homeless people, 80 million alcoholics, 45 million drug addicts, 12 million unemployed, and not in USA?
    Maybe the Russian army, and not the USA, conducts experiments bombarding peaceful cities and countries that do not have air defense, looking for a CIA officer bin Laden for a crime committed by USA intelligence agencies.
    How disgusting are these vile liars and ignoramuses from USAA.
    1. vmsnick
      vmsnick 10 August 2013 19: 26 New
      +1
      Class! I completely agree!
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  • Illyria
    Illyria 10 August 2013 18: 34 New
    +5
    with the US so everything is clear.
  • ausguck
    ausguck 10 August 2013 18: 50 New
    +2
    Was this Drisevich in Russia at least once? Or is he again referring to the opinion of unnamed "experts"? Mraz * that Russophobic ... am
  • individual
    individual 10 August 2013 19: 13 New
    +2
    Another devil from a snuffbox teaches Russia. am
  • vmsnick
    vmsnick 10 August 2013 19: 25 New
    +1
    The opinion of this narrow-minded person (William Deresiewicz), once again proves that Russia is an original country, an independent country, knowing its problems without it, that arose on a very, very difficult historical path of development, but strong and capable without directions from the West solve these problems! The West is simply in the throes of not being able to turn Russia into a raw material colony, cheap labor force and kneeling before the West!
  • sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 10 August 2013 19: 37 New
    +1
    I would advise Mr. Deresevich to go somewhere in the Russian outback, to collect something like a rally and explain to people what they are backward, stupid, ignorant, etc. Just for fun. For the sake of experiment, so to speak. And according to the results of this experiment, it will already be possible to judge the mental usefulness of Mr. Deresevich himself.
    1. grafrozow
      grafrozow 10 August 2013 23: 14 New
      0
      Quote: sigizmund472
      I would advise Mr. Deresevich to go somewhere in the Russian outback, to collect something like a rally and explain to people what they are backward, stupid, ignorant, etc. Just for fun. For the sake of experiment, so to speak. And according to the results of this experiment, it will already be possible to judge the mental usefulness of Mr. Deresevich himself.
      Well, for example, to Sarogu, there are hospitable residents.
  • SANAY
    SANAY 10 August 2013 19: 46 New
    +2
    All that is done there is all against Russia. All in the framework of the Zbigniew Brzezinski plan. I’m still waiting - when this evil hater of our Motherland, the vile old man will present himself to his and our devils. They are hilling their population, so it will be further. We, friends, just need to keep this in mind and notice everything ...
    1. densh
      densh 10 August 2013 21: 25 New
      0
      For a long time we mean them yes
    2. grafrozow
      grafrozow 10 August 2013 23: 19 New
      +1
      Stop looking for enemies in the west, Luzhkov, Baturin, Chubais, Yeltsin, Mavrod
  • Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 10 August 2013 20: 04 New
    0
    Well, what do you (we) want (want)? The information war against Russia, begun by the Poles in the 2196th century, did not fade. Here is some interesting material about it: http://www.russiapost.su/archives/XNUMX
    Well, the meaning of Russophobia is very clear. Not when did the Russians submit to all kinds of enslavement by Western "common people", from catholicization by fire and sword, to the compulsion to obedience to the west (the brightest Napoleon, Hitler, the Cold War). At the same time, the territory and natural resources, as it has been said very frankly more than once, completely unfairly belong to Russia.
  • klavyr
    klavyr 10 August 2013 21: 04 New
    +1
    Society on the basis of brute force - these are NATO countries !!!
  • zennon
    zennon 10 August 2013 21: 11 New
    +8
    Better look this one, which is much nicer than discussing any 3,14 doras:
    1. Normal
      Normal 10 August 2013 21: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: zennon
      Look better this

      "+" good drinks
      1. grafrozow
        grafrozow 10 August 2013 23: 26 New
        +6
        Quote: Normal
        Look better this

        And this is my homeland is beautiful.
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 10 August 2013 23: 30 New
          +1
          Russian size and Dmitry Nagiev - Homeland
          1. Anti
            Anti 10 August 2013 23: 52 New
            +1
            The girl drags herself with herself .. lol there’s also a guy with a serge, ndaa .. wassat
          2. Normal
            Normal 11 August 2013 11: 59 New
            +2
            Quote: Alex 241
            Russian size and Dmitry Nagiev - Homeland

            Alexander, I respect your opinion in the field of aviation, but this clip ....
            Sorry, but this is a complete "G"
            If you read the lyrics, then everything is fine. But!
            Music.
            You listen and understand that this is a spoiled melody of the pop command "Vostok", which in turn is the Russian version of the Swedish "Ace of Base"
            Vocals. (if you can call it that)
            The performance style with clearly oriental voice modulations in combination with the text resembles Trofim's comic song about Azerbaijanis in Moscow:
            "I love Muskwa like a son.
            As a wife, as apelsins.
            This city attracts and zawo oo-ot.
            And scoring his daddy.
            We let it smell down here
            Because here myo-od is smeared ... "
            Footage.
            This is generally ... Russian types in the video can be attributed
            1. A member of the group; obviously Valdai type of face, but in my opinion not without the participation of a plastic surgeon.
            2. Two of the three characters in the tent at the beginning of the clip.
            3. The bride
            4. With a very, very big doubt, a chubby band member with an earring in his ear.
            All the rest - Caucasian, Cyan, Gagauz, Tatar characters and Policeimako, which I find it difficult to attribute to any category.

            The image of a girl.
            Why in boots? what Mini for the most do not indulge in and boots ... Yes-ah ... repeat In combination with facial expressions and a general facial expression, an unbuttoned blouse, constant stroking his hair and chest, a characteristic gait, all this has a specific definition - S-oft p-orno.
            The impression is reinforced by the proximity at the end of the video with two burning brunettes, of course in white shirts (the Russian will wear a white shirt, except perhaps for a wedding, "brunettes" - regularly), and a pedantic chubby.

            And all this s-oft p-orno happens to be a song about .... Russia am

            In general, the girls in the video at a subconscious level should be associated with Russia.
            One depicts a whore (it is quite possible that she is) and the phrase in the text at the beginning of the video: "... I love everyone in the world" in this context sounds like a mockery of modesty and chastity.
            The second is the bride. She is pure and immaculate, but she is getting married ... of course, for another "brunet"

            Here is such a clip about the Motherland .... If this is not an ideological sabotage against Russia in general and Russians in particular, then in any case, "Russia reduced to a caricature."
            I think the first one.
            1. Anti
              Anti 11 August 2013 13: 40 New
              -1
              Quote: Normal
              ideological sabotage against Russia


              I agree with many points indicated by you. However, I would like to know what would happen if in the clip, only people with the Slavic appearance of the “blonde” appeared. Would this be considered an ideological diversion? After all, Russia is a multinational country.
              1. Normal
                Normal 11 August 2013 15: 06 New
                +1
                Quote: Anti
                what would happen if in the clip, only people with a Slavic appearance appeared

                And who says "only"? You are welcome; "All flags ... visit us." But it is in guests. And when in a clip of a group with a Russian name and a song about the Motherland, there are fewer ethnically Russians in the frame than representatives of other ethnic groups, and the main image in the clip exposes the Russian woman in a negative form, I actively dislike it.
                Quote: Anti
                Would this be considered an ideological diversion?

                I do not know... what Here is the clip "What Ethnically Russian People Look Like - 2" posted by zenonom can be considered an ideological sabotage against "multinational" Russia? Maybe for someone, yes, but I looked and there were tears of joy in my eyes. Although he himself is not blond.
                Quote: Anti
                After all, Russia is a multinational country.

                Not! Not true! But this lie is being told to us by pro-government anti-Russian media all day and night for decades. Already driven into the subcortex and we ourselves do not hesitate to repeat this lie. And in fact;
                modern Russia is not a multinational state, such as, for example, the Soviet Union. According to the 2010 census, in Russia the share of Russians in the country's total population is 80,9%. The second largest ethnic group is the Tatars (3.87%), the third place in the list is occupied by Ukrainians - 1,41%. It is more correct to call Russia a mono-ethnic country in which there are multi-ethnic regions (Volga region, Northern Caucasus, Yakutia).
                with a slight clarification that the North Caucasus is already a mono-ethnic region as part of Russia and Russians in the Caucasus, there are almost no more, you yourself know why.
                1. Anti
                  Anti 11 August 2013 15: 25 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Normal
                  It would be more correct to call Russia a mono-ethnic country


                  "This is the shortest path to the destruction of the Russian people and Russian statehood"
                  “The core that holds the fabric of this unique civilization is the Russian people, Russian culture. This is precisely the core that all sorts of provocateurs and our opponents will try to pull out of Russia with all their might - under completely false talk about the right of Russians to self-determination, about“ racial purity ”, about the need to "complete the 1991 case. and finally destroy the empire sitting on the neck of the Russian people ". In order to ultimately force people to destroy their own homeland with their own hands."
                  V.V.Putin
                  1. Normal
                    Normal 11 August 2013 15: 42 New
                    0
                    Quote: Anti
                    V.V.Putin

                    In-in, this character leads the group fulfilling the order to destroy the Russian people, replacing them with emigrants, followed by transferring the territory under the control of their customers with paisys and a star of David.
                    1. Anti
                      Anti 11 August 2013 15: 52 New
                      -2
                      Quote: Normal
                      In-in, this character leads the group fulfilling the order to destroy the Russian people, replacing them with emigrants, followed by transferring the territory under the control of their customers with paisys and a star of David.


                      busting .. go into the shade, if you are in the sun. Exactly, it's time to tighten the nuts, got into democracy.
                      1. Normal
                        Normal 11 August 2013 16: 52 New
                        0
                        Quote: Anti
                        busting .. go into the shade if you are in the sun. Exactly, it's time to tighten the nuts,

                        It is high time to tighten the nuts, but just not to anyone, everyone is busy with covering, cutting the budget, catching heavy pikes and walking around the "extinct" Peter.
                        So another question, who urgently needs to be in the shade.
                        And if there is a desire to play "backing track", you just beckon, I will always ... laughing
                  2. sleepy
                    sleepy 12 August 2013 01: 52 New
                    0
                    Quote: Anti
                    "The core that holds the fabric of this unique civilization is the Russian people, Russian culture. This core is the core of all sorts of provocateurs and our opponents by all means
                    they will try to wrestle from Russia - under the completely false talk about the right of Russians to self-determination, about "racial purity", about the need to "complete the 1991 case and finally destroy the empire sitting on the neck of the Russian people ...".


                    This is from Putin's article in Nezavisimaya Gazeta:
                    Russia: a national issue.
                    "The self-determination of the Russian people is a multiethnic civilization, held together by the Russian cultural core."
                    http://nextrus.ru/interes/319-putin-nacionaljnyj-vopros.html
            2. Anti
              Anti 11 August 2013 16: 20 New
              0
              And ideological sabotage is present here in the commercials Tank Races. And this is serious in my opinion, I would like to be mistaken.
              http://topwar.ru/31751-frg-i-italiya-mogut-prinyat-uchastie-v-tankovom-biatlone-
              v-2014-godu.html # comment-id-1397174
              1. Normal
                Normal 11 August 2013 19: 49 New
                0
                Quote: Anti
                And ideological sabotage is present here in the commercials Tank Races

                No diversion. The comments below explain why this happened. And the maximum speed on the line, as well as speed in general, is far from the most important quality of the tank. Even the gun and armor are not the main thing. And what is the main thing? And guess ...

                Sorry, I meant the video posted by the professor
                1. Anti
                  Anti 12 August 2013 00: 23 New
                  0
                  I don’t understand tanks at all, but I think the main thing is the survivability of the tank and its crew.
                  Two clips that svp67 put out Yesterday, 15:57 ↑ Tank races didn’t pay attention to anything there?

                  about minus one too laughing
                  1. Normal
                    Normal 12 August 2013 01: 33 New
                    0
                    Quote: Anti
                    I consider the main survivability of the tank and its crew.

                    Not true. A tank is not a ship, and survivability is not the main thing for it
                    Quote: Anti
                    Tank races didn’t pay attention to anything there?

                    Galileo is not serious. If you pay attention to such programs, then what can we talk about?
                    Quote: Anti
                    I don't know tanks at all

                    This is fixable, by reference an article by a famous specialist. For perception, this is certainly not Galileo .... but this is not Galileo!
                    http://topwar.ru/12977-tank-chelovek-sreda-mashina.html
                2. Anti
                  Anti 12 August 2013 00: 33 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Normal
                  The main quality of the tank. Even the gun and armor are not the main thing. And what is the main thing?

                  - Private Ivanov!
                  - I!
                  - What is the most important thing in the tank?
                  - Gun, Comrade Ensign!
                  -. Get in line.
                  - There is.
                  - Corporal Zigmatulin!
                  - Eeyore!
                  - What is the most important thing in the tank?
                  - Gusenyts s motor, Comrade Ensign!
                  - Chock. Get in line.
                  - Est.
                  - Sergeant Pilipenko!
                  - Shaw?
                  - What is the most important thing in the tank?
                  - Boekomlekt, comrade ensign!
                  - Club. Get in line.
                  “Well, not so.”
                  - Remember, fighters. The most important thing in the tank is not to crap. lol
    2. zennon
      zennon 10 August 2013 23: 10 New
      +3
      Well, if under "Rammstein":
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      2. Normal
        Normal 11 August 2013 10: 23 New
        0
        Quote: zennon
        Well, if under "Rammstein":

        But under "Rammstein" it does not roll ... At all ... And the video sequence is weaker and the music does not match with it.
        I am against the "industrial" style in general and Ramstein in particular, but everything has its time and place. Ramstein is good in the sports locker room before the start or at half-time to raise spirits and fighting spirit, and not in combination with Russian faces. And there are few Russian types in this video, compared to the first one.
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        3. zennon
          zennon 11 August 2013 17: 09 New
          +1
          But under "Rammstein" does not roll ...

          Well then follow this link. I couldn’t insert it. Here is even cooler:

          http://krasview.ru/video/211229-Kak_vyglyadyat_etnicheski_russkie_lyudi._chast_1
          1. Normal
            Normal 11 August 2013 19: 55 New
            +1
            Quote: zennon
            .Here even cooler:

            Is it necessary "cooler"? I'll see later ...
            1. zennon
              zennon 11 August 2013 20: 31 New
              +1
              Is it necessary "cooler"?

              And you look ...
              1. Normal
                Normal 11 August 2013 22: 46 New
                +1
                Quote: zennon
                And you look ...

                Thanks, I looked. In my subjective view, of course, the view is much weaker than the second part. And music and footage. There’s nothing to say about the video with ramstein, it is much weaker than both parts.
                1. zennon
                  zennon 11 August 2013 23: 27 New
                  +1
                  Thanks, looked

                  Thank you. "Rammstein" is certainly not an option, but the first part seems to me very worthy. In any case, I am glad that you liked it. I reread your dialogue with the opponent Anti. Your position is very close to me. Yours faithfully!hi
                  1. Normal
                    Normal 12 August 2013 00: 03 New
                    +1
                    Quote: zennon
                    "Rammstein" is certainly not an option, but the first part seems quite worthy to me.

                    No, I do not argue, the first part is certainly good and if I looked in order, everything would be fine, but after the second the first does not have that effect.
                    I myself am not a professional in the field of photography, cinema, video and generally video footage, but at the amateur level I have been interested in this for quite a long time. Therefore, I perceive video content not as a consumer, but a bit from a semi-professional point of view. I see many stamps, diagrams, I understand why it was shot this way and not otherwise, I see how the light is set and the frame is built. Not all of course, but much more than the average consumer of this product.
                    Quote: zennon
                    . I reread your dialogue with the opponent Anti. I am very close to your position.

                    Thank you, I am glad that in this matter I found a like-minded person in your person.
                    Quote: zennon
                    Yours!


                    Similarly! drinks
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  • alabin
    alabin 10 August 2013 22: 17 New
    +5
    American s without their beautiful and big history (US history is the story of crooks and adventurers who seized the floor of the continent and exterminated millions of Indians and then saved up money at the expense of others (war of intrigue and Jewish fraud))) are trying to paint the history of other GREAT peoples with dung paints. GOD does not give other colors to freaks.
  • michajlo
    michajlo 10 August 2013 22: 32 New
    +3
    Good evening everyone!
    I was pleased with the healthy reaction of the forum users to a mixture of different fables and unanswered questions from the author of the article.
    I completely agree with the general opinion of the authors of the notes on the pathetic attempts of the author!
    But maybe you shouldn’t break out very much on the barking of overseas paid jackals?
    After all, as many have already written here above, if Russia is hated and "offended" at it, then we are moving the right way! good

    To know everything that he is inventing about Russia and how the USSR continues to throw mud at our "shitty well-wishers from the West", very useful, but no more.

    In my opinion, the main thing is that the Russian people, along with all fraternal peoples, follow their Slavic path!

    And it is quite possible that when it is "like its advanced West" completely in its own the cesspool will slip, then the Russian path will be one of the right to harmony, good and other noble goals!

    Indeed, in the West they speak of love for one’s neighbor only in the church, and having left after their father’s confession, one can and should continuehell of green papers, kill and rob weakWow and defenseless ...

    The faster we restore the common ideology for all the republics of the USSR, reunite, the faster the former power of the Union and respect for decent people from around the world will return. good
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 10 August 2013 22: 40 New
    +1
    many in the West continue to write and talk about her as if nothing serious had changed in her - or, even worse, as if she had lost some “achievements” of the catastrophic 90s.

    Thank god that she "lost some" achievements "of the catastrophic 90s"! It is a pity that Russia has lost many of the achievements of the times of the USSR, it’s a pity!
    1. dmitry_den
      dmitry_den 10 August 2013 22: 52 New
      +2
      "Thank God that she" lost some of the "achievements" of the catastrophic 90s "! It's a pity that Russia has lost many of the achievements of the times of the USSR, that's a Pity!"

      right...
      but there were times ...
  • GUSAR
    GUSAR 10 August 2013 22: 48 New
    +1
    But these videos with the New Europe films I just didn’t fill up with anything special and shocking, in our country, in principle, the same thing only without homosexual marriages, thank God
  • bashmak
    bashmak 11 August 2013 07: 36 New
    +1
    Russia cruelty !! Russia never raided other states America Indians England colonies around the world Germans fighters were French Napoleon RUSSIA EMPIRE OF EVIL !!!
  • Siberian
    Siberian 11 August 2013 08: 55 New
    0
    Quote: seasoned
    As always, "drunken bears play balalaikas and go for moonshine in an embrace with men in felt boots" and all this is under the control of bloody Stalin, and now his successor, brought up by the NKVD-KGB, evil Putin.
    Why is everyone so eager to get into the "problems" of Russia? We do not need to instill tolerance and love for LGBT people. Live as you want, but do not meddle with us am
    In fact, they love to snoop their shnobel to us. They don’t notice their problems (they have more of ours) .... Do not feed them with bread. From this nososuvaniya they feel some joy.
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 11 August 2013 09: 07 New
    +2
    The article is designed for a stupid western man and has nothing to do with reality. I know our engineer who has been living in the United States for more than 15 years, every time he is going on vacation to his homeland hears so many sympathies, as if he was going to hell. Although his American friends and educated people, what can we say about ordinary Americans!
  • Averias
    Averias 11 August 2013 09: 07 New
    +4
    Your division, yourself in full f..e, and there too.
    Here is a little about their "heavenly" life.
    Corruption of the highest power is the traditional basis of American democracy, no one is fighting it and it is not even scolded, at least in the media and at the official level. This is a whole system of managing elected officials with the help of legal lobbying offices - in the interests of oligarchs, corporations (including foreign ones), sectarian and extreme right-wing groups (including foreign ones, for example AIPAC - lobbying for the interests of Israeli Nazis).
    ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council) is one of the largest and most notorious lobbying associations pushing bills in the U.S. Congress - not just in the interests of an influential minority, but also against the interests of American society.
    Massive cuts in social security, including preferential health programs, are another ALEC-hated activity for many Americans. Reducing government benefits for the poor and senior citizens, abolishing paid sick leave, cutting salaries for civil servants and dismissing them, privatizing utilities and mail are all ALEC's job.
    The so-called school reforms cause particular hatred in Chicago, where the most massive closures of public schools take place this year - the authorities decided to close 49 city schools. Authorities say that because of the economic crisis (which, it seems, has been officially defeated), they cannot support schools. You might think that ALEC reforms are not only a deprivation of the education of American children (again, mostly with colored skin), but also a relief for the state budget. But in fact, the essence of the reforms is the redistribution of state subsidies from traditional public to private schools. Tax money will still leave the state budget, but not to the benefit of the people and the state, but in private hands. The source of this program is Bill Gates and his foundation.
    Environmentalists also oppose ALEC because, at the direction of this council, laws were passed allowing corporations to pollute American nature with impunity. For example, the resolution in many states of fracking that makes drinking water poisonous and flammable (as Josh Fox demonstrated in his film GasLand) is the work of ALEC. One of the laws passed in 6 states in 2013, loudly called the “Electricity Freedom Act” - ... [pause for a run of the imagination] ... - simply cancels a huge part of environmental government standards, norms and restrictions for energy companies. Another “Animal and Ecological Terrorism Act” - ... [it’s even scary to think about it] ... - equates activists who advocate for animals; as well as environmentalists and farmers protesting against corporate environmental pollution - to terrorists.
    I think this is enough.
    1. shinobi
      shinobi 11 August 2013 09: 39 New
      +3
      And who exactly were the so-called "founding fathers" of the United States? Bandits, religious fanatics, war criminals. So everything is natural
  • shinobi
    shinobi 11 August 2013 09: 33 New
    +3
    Recently, the words democracy, liberal, human rights activist act on me like a gag.