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Communists want to "merge" the government of Medvedev

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Communists want to "merge" the government of MedvedevThe government-promoted reform of the Russian Academy of Sciences representatives of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation called the last straw that overflowed the patience of a certain part of lawmakers and other Russian citizens. The last drop is a rather formidable definition. What will be the answer of the Communist Party?


The fact is that the top of the Communist Party, headed by its permanent leader Gennady Zyuganov, launched an initiative to collect signatures in support of the idea of ​​the resignation of the Cabinet of Ministers headed by Dmitry Medvedev. The leader of the Russian Communists set the task to collect more than a million signatures, using for this party activists in various parts of the country. Why exactly a million? In the Communist Party of the Russian Federation they say that in the current Duma, the majority begins to wake up only when it sees six figures in front of it ... In other words, if you provide thousands of signatures required by the 100 law, few people from the ruling party will be impressed and the initiative can go along with captions. But whether or not the initiative, which can be supported by more than a million Russians, will go or not go - this is a separate question.

The task of collecting a million signatures to someone may seem too ambitious, but given the far from the most impressive ratings of the government, it can be implemented in a relatively short time. If you believe the data of the Levada Center (you can, in principle, not to believe), then the rating of the Dmitry Medvedev government is the lowest among all the governments of the last 13 years. According to a study by the organization, about 50% of Russians today believe that the Medvedev Cabinet is working, quote: “not very effective,” and about 13% states that the Government is ineffective at all.

So that the material does not seem to be biased, let us present the VTsIOM data regarding the level of confidence in the current government. These data are as follows: 42% of Russians believe that Dmitry Medvedev's Cabinet of Ministers has not demonstrated any achievements during its work. At the same time, more than 58% stated that they did not expect anything good from the work of the current ministries. As a result, VTsIOM published a general assessment of the work of the government by the Russians on a five-point scale. This rating corresponds to approximately 3,2 points. As school teachers say: pulled out by the ears ...
If you believe the representatives of the Communist Party themselves, then Zyuganov’s initiative only in the first few weeks after her dubbing was supported by about 300 thousands of Russians, and the list of signatures continues to grow every day.

In the State Duma itself (it should be noted - the vacation Duma) for the resignation of the current government, which at one time President Putin offered to give time to work, because the year - the deadline for assessments is too short, people spoke 102, of which the 92 legislator directly represents the Communist Party another ten are the fair Russia, which deviated from the "general line" of the party leader. In order for a question initiated by the communists to come up for discussion in the State Duma, you need to enlist the support of 90 deputies (everything worked out here), but to make the main decision you need at least 50% + 1 vote, then 226 votes of deputies.

Let us turn to the party composition of our Lower Chamber. On 450, the lawmakers of the representatives of the Communist Party are 92 people, Fair Russia - 64 people, the Liberal Democratic Party - 56 people, United Russia - 238 people. Attention! Question! Will the initiative of Gennady Zyuganov go towards the resignation of the government of Dmitry Medvedev, if in the current Duma the majority of deputies represent the very party that Medvedev heads? .. To be sure that the initiative will pass, you need to be either a very confident person , or a final romantic in pink glasses by nature ... Hoping that there will suddenly be a crack in “United Russia”, which will lead dozens of deputies to vote for the resignation of the government, in which Dew presented on the leading positions very often, somehow very very naive. Well it is to chop the bough, on which, at a minimum, 238 people's choices and sit.

But on the other hand, Gennady Zyuganov and other supporters of the idea of ​​changing the cabinet of ministers have a chance. This chance is very, very, very small, but it is. What is it? And it lies in the fact that among the deputies from the faction "United Russia" in the State Duma there are also representatives of the "All-Russian Popular Front", which, it seems, is positioned as an exclusively Putin's force. According to the latest data, such representatives in the State Duma of the VI convocation of 85 people, of whom 18 either were or became members of United Russia directly. If we assume that these 85 people suddenly decide that there is no need to support Medvedev and his government, then Zyuganov has already recruited 186 potential associates. Plus he himself. Prior to the motion of no confidence, there are not enough 30 votes. These thirty votes may well appear immediately after the ONF distances itself somewhat from United Russia - there are already flexible Liberal Democrats headed by Vladimir Wolfovich catching up and even, perhaps, the “irreconcilable fighter” Sergey Mironov.

However, in order for several dozen "people's front-line soldiers" to side with the government's resignation initiative, you need one "small" but. This “but” is in the position of Vladimir Putin. If he makes it clear that the opinion of hundreds of thousands (according to the number of signatures collected today), and even more so millions (according to the results of the government confidence survey) is not indifferent to him, then the ONF and all the rest will be untied. And in this case, Dmitry Medvedev will have very difficult. Waiting for the brethren from United Russia to defend him? Well, for this he needs to be just an impassable optimist.

Only now, to expect that President Putin will not be against the resignation of the current Cabinet, to be honest, is not necessary. Separate resignations of ministers - yes. They are quite likely, but the government’s complete discharge with its head is almost unbelievable. But what about the vertical, and what about the built system? This is a whole internal revolution in power, to which she will not go under the current scenario.

By the way, we did not mention the fact that in addition to the strange reform of the RAS, the Communist deputies were concerned. Gennady Zyuganov in one of his recent interviews states that there are more than enough reasons for concern about the work of the current government. This is a growing public debt. The leader of the Communist Party reminds that the current authorities promised to reach a fully deficit budget by 2015, but government documents show that the deficit will reach half a million rubles by 2015. Zyuganov as the government punctures calls the entry (according to him, dragging) of Russia into the World Trade Organization, which has already led to 800 losses of billions of rubles due to penetration of low-quality products of foreign manufacturers and the need to reduce customs duties for foreign companies. The main communist of Russia considers the obvious disadvantages of the work of the government of Dmitry Medvedev to be the reduction in the percentage of high-tech products from the Russian producer, aggravation of dependence on the export of raw materials, unintelligible education reform, inability to maintain economic growth, weak manifestations of the fight against corruption, constantly changing positions of pension reform. If we also add the reform of the RAS, which cannot be motivated even by the Ministry of Education, then the work of the government does not look unintelligible, and even counterproductive. And in this vein, the initiative of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation has a good base.

A number of experts, by the way, speak in the spirit that the initiative (if it is not populist, of course) by the long-lived Russian policy Gennady Zyuganov is the beginning of the end of the tandem. There is an opinion that Gennady Andreevich, who recently became suspiciously seldom to curse the power, did not come to his own initiative. Or he came on his own, but, having initially enlisted the support of "higher powers" (political, of course). If you believe this version, the combination of getting rid of the “partner” for President Putin looks perfect: they say, the Duma opposition has initiated, the people have supported, and I, as president, have only to fulfill the will of the people. But Dmitry Anatolyevich does not believe in it ...
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  1. Denin
    Denin 26 July 2013 07: 29 New
    +4
    Medvedev is certainly not Putin, but this is not Kasyanov, Putin with such a right hand is quite calm.
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 26 July 2013 09: 00 New
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      Quote: Denin
      Putin with such a right hand is quite calm.

      But there are no people!
      1. Denin
        Denin 26 July 2013 09: 06 New
        +3
        And with whom and to which people are calmer?
      2. Natalia
        Natalia 26 July 2013 10: 01 New
        11
        Quote: Denin
        Medvedev is certainly not Putin, but this is not Kasyanov, Putin with such a right hand is quite calm.

        A bear is a completely controllable figure for Putin - yes. But the government itself is rather weak - that too. There is one Shoigu who harnesses to the fullest, the rest are engaged in collective scratching of their details campaign.

        PS I still do not like the Bear for the simple reason that he is a liberalist (masturbator).
        1. strange and pretty meaningless
          strange and pretty meaningless 26 July 2013 10: 38 New
          +4
          Quote: Natalia
          I still do not like the Bear for the simple reason that he is a liberalist (masturbator)

          love Wah ... Kakaya sultry woman ...
        2. dmitrich
          dmitrich 27 July 2013 14: 05 New
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          = Natalia] PS I still don’t like Medved for the simple reason that he is a liberalist (masturbator).
          What did you masturbate together?
    2. strange and pretty meaningless
      strange and pretty meaningless 26 July 2013 09: 37 New
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      Quote: Denin
      Medvedev is certainly not Putin, but this is not Kasyanov, Putin with such a right hand is quite calm.

      lol Well, froze - so long ago did not smile. Rather, it turns out that both hands are right laughing
      I would venture to put forward a proposal to Great Pu - to make a horse's historic move. To offer DAM a place personally to comrade ZY. Not a protege from the Communist Party-namely Zyuganov himself. Rating - takes off vertically, reds get the opportunity to show themselves and best practices. Consolidation of the people is ensured. Will the Greatest Pu ... request
      1. strange and pretty meaningless
        strange and pretty meaningless 26 July 2013 09: 40 New
        +4
        Gennady Andreyevich, who recently began to suspiciously rarely scold the authorities
        Minted. To the author +100 (500)
        1. Uncle
          Uncle 26 July 2013 12: 06 New
          +6
          The Communists had 70 years to do anything in the USSR. In the end, there was a shift. I do not believe the Communists, and the Communists are not the same, not the Bolsheviks. Those would offer to shoot the entire liberal mafia. If there is a leader who will propose radical measures to combat the enemies of the people, they will follow him, and not only for money, for the idea.
      2. pav-pon1972
        pav-pon1972 26 July 2013 12: 10 New
        -1
        You can’t trust the Communists, they pissed off the USSR, being at the helm, do you still want Russia to ruin?
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 26 July 2013 12: 32 New
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          Quote: pav-pon1972
          The Communists had 70 years to do anything in the USSR.


          Quote: pav-pon1972
          You can’t trust the Communists, they pissed off the USSR, being at the helm, do you still want Russia to ruin?


          As a communist I will not be empty in the field, I will not sit next to Zyuganov!
          Communists are the first people to attack! These are those people to whom others ranked themselves, leaving notes - ... if I die, consider me a communist! ... Do you like to obscure the communist idea?
          - the wind of history will sweep you away, like the whole liberal-bourgeois mess.
          1. strange and pretty meaningless
            strange and pretty meaningless 26 July 2013 15: 22 New
            +3
            Quote: Karlsonn
            As a communist I will not be empty in the field, I will not sit next to Zyuganov!

            laughing Enough space in the field Karlsonn. Regarding the identity of Zyu ... Yes, I like a troll wassat do you really think that Great Pu will risk such a nontrivial castling. Nope ... I’m talking about something else - assuming the very situation of the proposal for the role of the second person of Mr. Zu, then ...
            1. Mr. Sue may refuse. The result - a drain of confidence in communist ideas - and an unconditional drain of Zu himself. Since it is pointless to discredit Zu in the eyes of the supporters of the idea - he himself is doing a good job, the indirect result is the renewal of persons in the Communist Party. This is an undeniable plus for the communist idea, for Zyu has clearly ceased.
            2. Mr. Sue may agree. This option is much more interesting. He has ready candidates for ministerial seats. Moving off the topic is not the situation — firstly, ideology, and secondly, pressure from below, and from the side, and from the outside. A big plus of the situation is the surge of hopes of a people yearning for Soviet ideals. Perhaps - and I would really hope so - the use of the energy of this surge for creative purposes. Time is running out. The king, in principle, does not lose anything. Maybe even let a tear of delight - they say, he himself did not believe that this would happen. Maybe someone will believe. A lot of things can happen ...

            Quote: Karlsonn
            the wind of history will sweep you away, like the whole liberal-bourgeois mess. ...


            This is inevitable - but you need to prepare the sails so that he rushed us to the Beautiful Far Away.
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 26 July 2013 15: 40 New
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              Quote: abyrvalg
              Enough space in the field


              that's for sure!

              Quote: abyrvalg
              Regarding the identity of Zu ..


              I have already expressed my position on this remnant.


              Quote: abyrvalg
              This is inevitable - but you need to prepare the sails so that he rushed us to the Beautiful Far Away.


              PPKS.
          2. Uncle
            Uncle 26 July 2013 16: 09 New
            -1
            Quote: Karlsonn
            As a communist I will not be empty in the field, I will not sit next to Zyuganov!

            This is characteristic of the Bolsheviks, either you unite, then you decisively dissociate yourself, all in the spirit of Lenin.
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 26 July 2013 16: 13 New
              +3
              Quote: Uncle
              This is characteristic of the Bolsheviks, either you unite, then you decisively dissociate yourself, all in the spirit of Lenin.


              good well done! looking at your profile picture, I won’t even mind.
        2. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 26 July 2013 12: 58 New
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          Quote: pav-pon1972
          You can’t trust the Communists, they pissed off the USSR, being at the helm, do you still want Russia to ruin?


          Banal victim of propaganda laughing , the child does not know that after the bourgeois revolution, the Russian Empire fell to pieces.
          And only 50 000 Communists were able to collect everything back.
          The child will still believe the propaganda that the 120 people of the Chekists in the 1918 year, the 200 people of the Chekists in the 1919 year and the 31 000 security officers (of which more than 28 000 people were in the "curtain" flying border patrols) in the 1921 year brought the country to its knees .
          A child misses the crunch of French rolls!
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 26 July 2013 13: 32 New
            +1
            Th laughing factology is not enough? minus no argument? Nude ...
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 26 July 2013 14: 59 New
              0
              no arguments? bully
            2. yak69
              yak69 26 July 2013 15: 18 New
              +8
              Quote: Karlsonn
              factology is not enough? minus no argument?

              They (the liberals) do not have enough brains, not arguments, and their conscience is completely lacking!
              Although, they consider themselves patriots of the fatherland and disown liberalism. All these descendants of the offended intelligentsia and the unfinished royal Cossacks.
              It was they, liberal intellectuals and a degrading nobility, who brought the Empire to collapse in 17. It was they who suppressed popular discontent with Cossack sabers, chopped off the poor, impoverished peasants and workers! Now they are spiteful, like rabid dogs, swearing at the USSR, the Communists, pouring mud on the country that raised them, learned them, opened all the way for them. Great-great-grandfather's orders were obtained (obtained by courage and selfless courage), dressed them up, dressed like clowns and walking, shaking their belly. Shapito circus! They shout that they are de patriots, they were oppressed.
              And all this audience, now pouring slop on the Soviet government and the country of the Soviets, all this is a flock of "Moseks barking at the elephant."
              Let them out. Bite pugs, while allowed.
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 26 July 2013 15: 29 New
                +3
                yak69 drinks

                on several Ukrainian resources for such texts I have always been banned.
                it’s useless to explain here: people wouldn’t know that until 1914, 40% of men had never eaten meat, that bread was the main food of the peasant was guan (as in the classic, hunger in Russia is not when bread didn’t, and when the quinoa didn’t rise), I don’t even remember about the military role courts - lovers of the crunch of French bread cannot understand this. hi
                1. poquello
                  poquello 26 July 2013 23: 27 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Karlsonn

                  it’s useless to explain here: people wouldn’t know that until 1914, 40% of men had never eaten meat in their lives


                  from R.H.? He smiled, but even if not from R.Kh. hard to believe, but interesting, justify.
                  1. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn 27 July 2013 10: 47 New
                    0
                    Quote: poquello
                    from R.H.? He smiled, but even if not from R.Kh. hard to believe, but interesting, justify.


                    Read, comrade report of the General Staff of the Republic of Ingushetia.
                    1. poquello
                      poquello 27 July 2013 11: 40 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      Quote: poquello
                      from R.H.? He smiled, but even if not from R.Kh. hard to believe, but interesting, justify.


                      Read, comrade report of the General Staff of the Republic of Ingushetia.


                      A stack of reports of the General Staff is lying on my table specially and is waiting for me to read them. Too lazy to post - give a link. What kind of "RI"?
        3. Vovka L.
          Vovka L. 26 July 2013 13: 16 New
          +2
          It’s difficult with the Communists, I learned about Admiral Kuznetsov — what are they for him for?
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 26 July 2013 13: 24 New
            +2
            Quote: Vovka L.
            It's hard with the communists


            What is the difficulty? The fact that their Germans shot without talking?
            1. Vovka L.
              Vovka L. 26 July 2013 13: 43 New
              -3
              I mean the case of Kuznetsov, what does the Germans have to do with it. In fact, Hitler did not fight with the Communists, but as the Russians would say now.
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 26 July 2013 14: 21 New
                +4
                Quote: Vovka L.
                In fact, Hitler did not fight with the Communists, but as the Russians would say now.


                comrade how old are you?
                political instructor, commissar, communist - doesn’t it remind anything?
            2. Uncle
              Uncle 26 July 2013 13: 51 New
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              Quote: Karlsonn
              What is the difficulty?

              Communism and Russia are a very broad topic. It’s not worth it to pile everything together, both positive and negative. In any case, the Communists did not bend down to the west as much as the liberals and Medvedev together. They would prefer war, famine, surplus-appraisal, the Gulag, but not insecurity, or rather, not the golden calf. The communists of the 20s were unlike the current democrats, but they nevertheless took their hands on the country, first lost Ukraine and the Baltic states, Poland, but then returned. And the current ones are selling Russia, betraying the Russian people, well, there’s nothing to be a leader, will put things in order, I believe that by the methods of the Cheka.
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 26 July 2013 14: 07 New
                0
                Quote: Uncle
                Communism and Russia are a very broad topic. It’s not worth it to pile everything together, both positive and negative.


                That's it.


                Quote: Uncle
                In any case, the Communists did not bend down to the west as much as the liberals and Medvedev together.


                We, the Communists, unlike the current rulers, have never caved in.


                Quote: Uncle
                They would prefer war, famine, surplus appropriation, the Gulag


                the tsarist government introduced the surplus appraisal, then extended the Kerensky government. War and famine - Dear, explore the topic of famines in the Russian Empire and for one how, who, and why the war started.

                Quote: Uncle
                Gulag


                tricky question:
                - Who was the first to build a concentration camp on the territory of the Russian Empire?


                Quote: Uncle
                And the current sell Russia, betray the Russian people


                I know.


                Quote: Uncle
                Well, there’s nothing to be a leader, to put things in order, I believe that by the methods of the Cheka.


                I think you will not be surprised at the comrade after seeing me in the Cheka soldier .
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 26 July 2013 15: 02 New
                  +2
                  Th - surprised that the surplus apportionment under the tsar-priest was introduced? or that the Angles built a concentration camp?
                2. Uncle
                  Uncle 26 July 2013 16: 06 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  We, the Communists, unlike the current rulers, have never caved in.

                  Let me remind you that Gorbachev and Yeltsin are communists, Bakatin and Kalugin are generally from the KGB. So sag and in full. You, apparently, an ordinary communist, this infection has passed you.
                  With regard to the surplus-appraisal and the camps, the tsar of the revolutionaries exiled, and the Bolsheviks shot the ruling class and the tsar himself, what the Bolsheviks did not want to do. They filled the country with the blood of fellow citizens.
                  1. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn 26 July 2013 16: 22 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Uncle
                    Let me remind you that Gorbachev and Yeltsin


                    history also knows the anointed of God, who profiled the country and renounced his people - God entrusted to him (as a communist I am skeptical about this, but still ...), history knows an example and not one as the upper class could not hold the country and power but we will water Communists with guan wassat .


                    Quote: Uncle
                    You are apparently an ordinary communist


                    Yes.


                    Quote: Uncle
                    the king of revolutionaries exiled


                    military courts, - triples, Stolypin ties? what? ANSWER what they called him bloody?


                    Quote: Uncle
                    and the Bolsheviks shot the ruling class and the tsar himself,


                    was for what. And my hand would not flinch.


                    Quote: Uncle
                    what Nicholas did not want to do, the Bolsheviks did. They filled the country with the blood of fellow citizens.


                    And pure white angels, that's why they call dogs in Siberia - Kolchak, that's why the people supported ours and knocked out all this guano nation either underground or over a hill - who managed.
        4. yak69
          yak69 26 July 2013 15: 33 New
          +4
          Quote: pav-pon1972
          Communists cannot be trusted

          Can liberals be trusted? And you, for example, whom do you believe?
          Quote: pav-pon1972
          they pissed off the USSR, being at the helm,

          Another victim of bourgeois propaganda. Probably an october and a pioneer?
          Such a position as pouring mud, one’s past and the country in which he lived, is inherent in either traitors or fools. There is no other option.

          It is impossible, without the devastating consequences for the psyche, to oahayut their own past. It's like hitting yourself with a stick on the head. This is our past! This is the country in which we lived! Which our grandfathers and fathers built and defended! (Or maybe your grandfathers and fathers did not build the country, but only spoiled it?)
          And if you built, then well you bark everything ?!

          In truth, not distant mind these citizens .... we can say-they are completely crazy.
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 26 July 2013 15: 45 New
            +3
            Quote: yak69
            Probably an october and a pioneer?


            comrade, and count if there was belay , swore like us and suddenly this request

            many people talk about the difficulties of the 90's, but how did they live in dugouts after the war and did not become cattle? How these people worked and dreamed that their great-grandchildren would live better ... Looking at today, I am ashamed .... ashamed of my ancestors.
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 26 July 2013 16: 25 New
              0
              and liberals are active laughing They can’t argue, but stay healthy for an iPhone! wassat
    3. Vovka L.
      Vovka L. 26 July 2013 13: 13 New
      0
      Rogozin must be at the premiere
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  3. Gardamir
    Gardamir 26 July 2013 07: 40 New
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    All politics is a game of chess. For example, in order to make Shoigu the Minister of Defense, it was necessary to remove him from the life post of the head of the Ministry of Emergency Situations and temporarily transfer him to the governors. So what kind of game is being played now, we will see upon its completion. But if suddenly someone asked my opinion, then Medvedev should be kept away from the government. And Putin himself to take a chance and look for new people.
    1. Skiff
      Skiff 26 July 2013 10: 15 New
      +4


      Here he is, what a funny prime minister, at least he pretended to be listening.
      1. Vovka L.
        Vovka L. 26 July 2013 13: 19 New
        +5
        When I myself listen to Zyuganov, as if at a congress in the 60s, one demagogy is water in one word.
        "In the 60-70s, 50 tractors and combines were built at 1000 plants and factories, the USSR rattled the whole world with kilometers of fabrics and asphalt roads, peasants had 3 spare sickles and hammers" ...
  4. Grenz
    Grenz 26 July 2013 07: 48 New
    +4
    From the photograph it is clear that he understands where the end is being predicted from. Well, just like Paul. He knows that he is no longer in business, but he is holding on.
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  5. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 26 July 2013 08: 00 New
    +5
    All these proposals from the side of the Communist Party (read-Zyuganov) as it seems to me, are nothing more than a PR campaign, who will listen to them.
    Quote: Gardamir
    But if suddenly someone asked my opinion, then Medvedev should be kept away from the government
    and not only from the government, but also away from government posts. After all, it’s customary to shuffle from place to place.
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  7. treskoed
    treskoed 26 July 2013 08: 15 New
    +5
    Communists want to "merge" the government of Medvedev

    Wanting is not harmful, but being able to ....
  8. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 26 July 2013 08: 19 New
    11
    Medvedev certainly benefits Putin as a "pocket prime minister" and yet he needs to do something cardinal. Slowing down death is similar for Russia.
  9. horoh
    horoh 26 July 2013 08: 20 New
    0
    I wonder who deleted my comment and why ??????
    1. Vovka L.
      Vovka L. 26 July 2013 13: 15 New
      +3
      It’s like you threatened to be shot, so they removed it.
  10. mole
    mole 26 July 2013 08: 34 New
    +3
    Medvedev by nature is a performer, as a manager - NO! Something needs to be done with this. It may not be that there are no candidates for the position in the reserve.
  11. Tiberium
    Tiberium 26 July 2013 08: 45 New
    +3
    The idea of ​​the Communists may succeed. They have a lot of support among pensioners, maybe all over Russia and they scrape together a million.
    1. omsbon
      omsbon 26 July 2013 09: 47 New
      +7
      Quote: Tiberium
      The idea of ​​the Communists may succeed. They have a lot of support among pensioners, maybe all over Russia and they scrape together a million.

      In this case, they will not support Zyuganov, but the dismissal of the amorphous prime minister! hi
    2. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 26 July 2013 12: 34 New
      -2
      Quote: Tiberium
      The idea of ​​the Communists may succeed.


      She will crown.


      Quote: Tiberium
      They have a lot of support among pensioners, maybe all over Russia and they scrape together a million.


      Yeah, comfort yourself with hope.
  12. Revolver
    Revolver 26 July 2013 08: 54 New
    0
    Zyuganov seems to have forgotten that the days when the Central Committee of the Communist Party removed and put down the Chairmen of the Council of Ministers have long passed. Whether it was good or bad is a completely different topic.
  13. Anti
    Anti 26 July 2013 09: 39 New
    +4
    Quote: volkodav
    komunagi ento paka still power

    present only empty bells ..
    1. Gato
      Gato 26 July 2013 10: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: Anti
      present only empty bells ..

      But how aphoristic:
      in the current Duma, the majority begins to wake up only when it sees six-digit numbers
  14. Owl
    Owl 26 July 2013 09: 39 New
    +9
    It is not necessary to drive the “plush Dima” to Kolyma with Kyle, but the question arises: where did the “plush” come from and most importantly, who put it forward (not GDP)?
  15. creak
    creak 26 July 2013 09: 45 New
    +8
    Zyuganov, as he was the instructor of the Central Committee of the CPSU, remained so to them. And all his initiatives are nothing more than self-promotion. For the Communist Party to become a truly influential force, and not a pocket opposition, it is high time for it to change leadership.
  16. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 26 July 2013 10: 03 New
    +2
    The government is really one of the most unsuccessful in the history of Russia’s existence (the 90s doesn’t count), though there will be nothing for Medvedev, he will calmly finalize his term and put him down to teach at some university or go abroad, he must understand that he himself no one could even be called without the support of Vladimir, maybe of course he has the illusion that he is an independent and self-sufficient political figure, then he is still not very smart.
  17. USNik
    USNik 26 July 2013 10: 27 New
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    Trotsky’s grandfather Lenin was a "political prostitute" (c), I’m even afraid to imagine who Vladimir Ilyich would call Zyuganov ... repeat laughing
  18. My address
    My address 26 July 2013 10: 34 New
    +3
    If we take as an axiom the difficult, psychologically, childhood DAM, then all of its actions are explainable. At any cost to break up, and there ... Farnish realizes his childhood dreams of himself, great, and with stubbornness and evil to all. Well, who else would guess to award Gorbachev or give away the territory of Norway and Azerbaijan? And the government scored its own kind of mediocrity with the initiative .. Exception power and Medina.
  19. papss
    papss 26 July 2013 10: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: ranger
    Zyuganov, as he was the instructor of the Central Committee of the CPSU, remained so to them. And all his initiatives are nothing more than self-promotion. For the Communist Party to become a truly influential force, and not a pocket opposition, it is high time for it to change leadership.

    I completely agree on Zyuganov ... But, there’s no self-promotion ... already because it’s pocket, how do you write ... But what if “he (Zyuganov) broke the chain” ... at the request of ... the one who holds it in your pocket? Then everything is justified ...
  20. tchack
    tchack 26 July 2013 10: 44 New
    +8
    Where are the signatures collected ??? Against Medvedev and his government, I am ready to sign, even if I have to go somewhere (only not very far))). Zadolbal already this verbiage ... I did nothing good ...

    I have such memories about him:
    1. Passed Libya
    2. Swearing at Stalin
    3. Gave the Norwegians part of the territory of the Russian Federation
    4. I skipped Skolkovo so that it does not smell like an innovation center
    5. Moved time
    6. Zero ppm
    7. Sold for Iphone, like Gorbachev for pizza
    8. A man with a big head with a complex of Napoleon))))
    1. ifolga
      ifolga 26 July 2013 15: 49 New
      0
      For example here
      http://www.ne-dam.ru/action/
  21. 17085
    17085 26 July 2013 11: 43 New
    -2
    It seems that all commentators, over the past 10 years, have held the posts of exclusively chairmen of the government, countries in an area close to 1/6 of the land, survived the 2008 crisis with a GDP growth of at least 10%.
    (The government is truly one of the most unsuccessful in the history of Russia (the 90s does not count))
    Excuse me, you’re talking about the past 8 years, and before that, was it better with Kasyanov? Excuse me, are you out of your mind? Please take the trouble to substantiate your statement. Why they are not successful, but it is understandable ... they increase salaries for the military, index pensions, they decided to raise Russia from their knees, aa-c - and-and.
    (Not the government, “plush Dima” to drive to Kolyma with Kyle)
    What is it all of a sudden? Because it doesn't hang your brother on lampposts? And crushes fagots? Not obscene, but trying to explain in Russian? Recognizes the seniority of the team leader and does not "pull the blanket" over himself? Bro explain for the teddy? Are you in the senior brigade?
    (Zyuganov, as he was the instructor of the Central Committee of the CPSU, remained so to them. And all his initiatives are nothing more than self-promotion. For the Communist Party to become a truly influential force, and not a pocket opposition, it is high time for it to change leadership.)
    Once Zyuganov was someone, it’s true. And the Communist Party was formerly communist. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation - today it’s hollow holes in the service of the oligarchs and lobbying for their interests. The capitalist party of the Russian Federation, it is in fact pocket. Only whose pocket ... compare the lists of Forbes and their nominees. Komorradin Zu with all the capital of his masters - Medvedev breathes into the navel - this is a fact. "Signature" he collects.
    In general, this is empty talk. The road will be overcome by a walker Ten years ago, abroad, it was herd to tell me that I was Russian. Today I introduce myself and say right away - "I'm from Russia." They answer me, - "Oo-o, Rossiya - Putin, Medvedev, Kalashnikov ... Good. Yes, hung up all gays and Obama!" And this is all thanks to the president and his team, and the Russians, who believe in them and continue to work, rather than fleeing to their historical homeland and not selling to the state department.
    1. tchack
      tchack 26 July 2013 13: 41 New
      -1
      He turned everything upside down. (Minus you)

      In the Medvedev government, more than half of the ministers are pulling Russia down, while the other half are just "raising salaries for the military, indexing pensions, and planning to raise Russia from their knees."

      Accordingly, it is a matter of organizing the work of the government. Medvedev did not cope with his task. The tasks entrusted to him were not fulfilled.

      He would have been in the army (in the one in which salaries are raised by the military). Article 332 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation could be sewn to him. Failure to fulfill an order. And Putin gave him orders.
      1. 17085
        17085 26 July 2013 14: 56 New
        0
        One of the tasks of the Putin team is precisely to squeeze out the former functionaries of the CPSU and the Komsomol, who settled firmly, and in some positions, their children, and at the same time not to arrange the 37th (although it would be more effective). The ministries where the main functional structure has been updated and work normally. The ministry of transport can serve as an example of the opposite, just as all sorts of Franks sat, they hatch on their zhzhzhzh for 25 years, and roads, morphlot, and much more, for which they should make happy here.
        Just you turn everything upside down.
    2. ifolga
      ifolga 26 July 2013 16: 58 New
      +1
      Well, yes, the Medvedev team is a team of like-minded people. Their motto is to plunder Russia. One privatization 2.0 program is worth it. There are no random people in it, only proven effective managers.
      Olga Golodets is simply obliged to deal with pension reform, thank God there is experience - the stolen Norilsk Nickel pension fund, which she led.
      http://www.pensiamarket.ru/AllNews.aspx?type=monitoring&id=83
      Dmitry Livanov is simply obliged to deal effectively with the property of the Russian Academy of Sciences, since it is also not the first time that he will have to do this.
      http://korrossia.ru/power/7909-kak-chinovniki-minorbrnauki-zadumali-raspilit-33-
      gektara-zemli-mirea.html
      Well, Ulyukaev is simply obliged to lead the economic recovery, he is a specialist in this, the Russian economic boom of 90 hands is his brainchild.
      http://general-ivanov.livejournal.com/1593730.html
      And the line carried out by the government to create effective control systems of the type is "Defense-Service", "Academ-Service". There is also a “Tax Service”, they created this institution in order to remove part of the functions and relevant employees outside the scope of the State Service, and ultimately the collected taxes will also be transferred there. And this is right, why does our effective state managers need an extra add-on called the budget of the Russian Federation, it only complicates the theft process, I’m sorry - the Government’s work.
  22. AK-47
    AK-47 26 July 2013 11: 46 New
    +1
    in the current Duma, the majority begins to wake up only when it sees six-digit numbers in front of it ...

    A very remarkable statement.
  23. ed65b
    ed65b 26 July 2013 11: 46 New
    +2
    Communists today can only cast around the corner. In general, it’s time for them to rename themselves, only the name is left of the ideas of communism. and what kind of leader is the uncle of the gene? And which leader is such a party.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 26 July 2013 12: 40 New
      -1
      Quote: ed65b
      Communists today can only cast around the corner.


      Oh really? Do not confuse anything?


      Quote: ed65b
      In general, it’s time for them to rename themselves, only the name is left of the ideas of communism. and what kind of leader is the uncle of the gene? And which leader is such a party.


      Russian language is probably difficult comrade was given to you at school?
      The Communist Party, with a bourgeois clique led by the Zyuganovs, has nothing in common.
      It is enough to know what the left movement is to sarcastically perceive this article, namely its title.
      1. Black
        Black 26 July 2013 13: 35 New
        +3
        Quote: Karlsonn
        The Communist Party, with a bourgeois clique led by the Zyuganovs, has nothing in common.

        Let me intervene ....
        Do you know another TRUE Communist Party of Russia?
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 26 July 2013 13: 46 New
          -1
          Quote: Chen
          Let me intervene ....
          Do you know another TRUE Communist Party of Russia?


          Yes, I know - I belong to her.
          Like any normal Russian.
          I don’t intend to talk about left ideas.
          1. Black
            Black 26 July 2013 13: 55 New
            +5
            Quote: Karlsonn
            Like any normal Russian.

            Well, if at the level of the great Russian soul, then yes. Few of us are not in this "party."
            Only the political, economic, social life of the country is built not by the soul, but by the struggle of groups of people (preferably, very desirable !!) united by what we call the PARTY.
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 26 July 2013 14: 09 New
              0
              Quote: Chen
              but the struggle of groups of people (preferably, very desirable !!) united by what we call the PARTY.


              I am fighting. And you ?
              1. kush62
                kush62 26 July 2013 16: 11 New
                +2
                Quote: I am fighting. And you ?
                Is there anything of the creative?
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 26 July 2013 16: 26 New
                  +2
                  Quote: kush62
                  Quote: I am fighting. And you ?
                  Is there anything of the creative?


                  I lead a group of schoolchildren as a trainer, instill in them the ideals of Soviet sports --- and what?
                  1. kush62
                    kush62 27 July 2013 18: 14 New
                    +1
                    I lead a group of schoolchildren as a trainer, instill in them the ideals of Soviet sports --- and what?

                    It's nice to talk with people who do something and have their own opinion. Just a lot of simple balabol divorced .. Regards.
              2. Black
                Black 26 July 2013 16: 30 New
                +6
                Quote: Karlsonn
                I am fighting. And you ?

                I work, serve the Fatherland. I serve honestly, I didn’t go to the Communists in the early 80s, despite even problems ... And I didn’t go to EP. Something like that with the "guide and guide" in life does not add up.
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 26 July 2013 16: 34 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Chen
                  I work, serve the Fatherland. I serve honestly


                  Actually more is not required. +
                  1. Black
                    Black 26 July 2013 16: 39 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Karlsonn
                    Actually more is not required. +

                    Not sure.
                    The communist father was convinced that ....
                    1. Karlsonn
                      Karlsonn 26 July 2013 17: 23 New
                      0
                      Quote: Chen
                      Not sure.
                      The communist father was convinced that ....


                      collapsed under the table.
          2. ed65b
            ed65b 26 July 2013 14: 26 New
            +6
            Like any normal Russian.

            And the rest means not normal?
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 26 July 2013 14: 40 New
              0
              Quote: ed65b
              And the rest means not normal?


              What does it have to do with it? A normal Russian is one who honors his homeland above himself.
              We can understand the good of the Motherland in different ways, but now we have one enemy.
              1. ed65b
                ed65b 26 July 2013 14: 52 New
                +2
                Quote: Karlsonn
                Quote: Chen
                Let me intervene ....
                Do you know another TRUE Communist Party of Russia?


                Yes, I know - I belong to her.
                Like any normal Russian.
                I don’t intend to talk about left ideas.

                this is where it is. Normal Russian consists of a party of uncle genes remaining abnormal. according to your post.
                I am not a member, but I consider myself normal.
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 26 July 2013 15: 05 New
                  +1
                  Quote: ed65b
                  Normal Russian is in Uncle Genes Party


                  as I already wrote, a normal Russian in a field will not sit next to this flawed one.


                  Quote: ed65b
                  the rest are crazy. according to your post.
                  I am not a member, but I consider myself normal.


                  2 + 2 = 999?
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 26 July 2013 17: 28 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Karlsonn

                    2 + 2 = 999?

                    No, 2 + 2 = 22, everyone who passes the exam knows laughing
                    1. poquello
                      poquello 27 July 2013 00: 01 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Quote: Karlsonn

                      2 + 2 = 999?

                      No, 2 + 2 = 22, everyone who passes the exam knows laughing

                      did not find the exam you know, 2 + 2 = 100
              2. Black
                Black 26 July 2013 16: 37 New
                +1
                Quote: Karlsonn
                A normal Russian is one who honors his homeland above himself.

                And what does it have to do with one or another ideology?
                Stolypin, for example, is VERY abnormal. You have a strange gradation to the norm.
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 26 July 2013 17: 27 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Chen
                  And what does it have to do with one or another ideology?


                  damn, hand-face! specifically, this proposal refers to the unification of ideology.


                  Quote: Chen
                  Stolypin, for example, is VERY abnormal. You have a strange gradation to the norm.


                  belay a feeling that we are talking on the shaitan pipe from the movie "Assa".
          3. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 26 July 2013 15: 03 New
            0
            I like anonymous minus signers! good
      2. ed65b
        ed65b 26 July 2013 14: 25 New
        +1
        Oh really? Do not confuse anything?

        no, I don’t confuse.
        The Communist Party, with the bourgeois clique led by the Zyuganovs, has nothing in common

        has nothing to do with what?
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 26 July 2013 14: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: ed65b
          no, I don’t confuse.


          you walk in the answers comrade.


          Quote: ed65b
          has nothing to do with what?


          with the so-called shobla zyuganov.
          1. ed65b
            ed65b 26 July 2013 14: 47 New
            +3
            with what fright walk in the answers? You asked, I answered. Is Shobla Zyuganov a modern communist party or are there other communist parties in our country? maybe you know what catacomb communist party and mean? laughing
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 26 July 2013 15: 09 New
              +1
              Quote: ed65b
              You asked I answered.


              better on - you.


              Quote: ed65b
              Is Shobla Zyuganov a modern communist party or are there other communist parties in our country?


              comrade you will be surprised, but leftist parties can not be counted.

              Quote: ed65b
              maybe you know what catacomb communist party and mean?


              Well, history says that once one catacomb, religious sect - turned the world upside down.
              and much later 50 000 people changed the history of the planet.
              1. ed65b
                ed65b 26 July 2013 15: 31 New
                +3
                and another in 41 turned over and drove the half of the world to hell, as well as his country.
                and it’s actually talking specifically about the Communist Party. I speak for her.
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 26 July 2013 15: 48 New
                  +1
                  Quote: ed65b
                  and another in 41 turned over and drove the half of the world to hell, as well as his country.


                  who is this?


                  Quote: ed65b
                  and it’s actually talking specifically about the Communist Party. I speak for her.


                  tired of repeating already - there is one Communist Party.
                  1. za VDV
                    za VDV 26 July 2013 16: 14 New
                    +3
                    Kalson your propeller is spinning in the wrong direction, reverse thrust. you contradict yourself in all posts, you decide there for the Reds or the Whites. And then you are spinning like a frying pan.
                    1. Karlsonn
                      Karlsonn 26 July 2013 16: 36 New
                      0
                      Quote: za VDV
                      Kalson your propeller is spinning in the wrong direction, reverse thrust. you contradict yourself in all posts, you decide there for the Reds or the Whites. And then you are spinning like a frying pan.


                      I ask an example.
                      1. za VDV
                        za VDV 26 July 2013 18: 15 New
                        0
                        Why are squeals measured, read comrade carefully you will understand the branch.
                      2. Karlsonn
                        Karlsonn 27 July 2013 10: 49 New
                        0
                        Quote: za VDV
                        Why are squeals measured, read comrade carefully you will understand the branch.


                        drain - protected. wrap around. drinks
                2. ed65b
                  ed65b 26 July 2013 16: 18 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  Quote: ed65b
                  and another in 41 turned over and drove the half of the world to hell, as well as his country.

                  who is this?

                  I thought you knew him personally. did not happen?
                  1. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn 26 July 2013 16: 37 New
                    0
                    Quote: ed65b
                    I thought you knew him personally. did not happen?


                    in 41 my grandfathers were younger than me now, - did not happen.
                    1. ed65b
                      ed65b 26 July 2013 18: 25 New
                      0
                      Ask them, those who were younger at 41 than you are now, they will tell you.
                    2. Karlsonn
                      Karlsonn 27 July 2013 10: 50 New
                      0
                      Quote: ed65b
                      Ask them, those who were younger at 41 than you are now, they will tell you.


                      I asked.
  • biglow
    biglow 26 July 2013 13: 09 New
    +1
    Putin acts as a good leader, do it all with the wrong hands good
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 26 July 2013 13: 17 New
      -2
      Quote: biglow
      Putin acts as a good leader, do it all with the wrong hands


      I ask you to explain to me how the modern, criminal and corrupt government of Russia relates to the Communist Party (I ask you not to confuse the Zyuganov party with communist ideas in advance).
      1. Black
        Black 26 July 2013 13: 49 New
        +5
        Quote: Karlsonn
        I ask you to explain to me how the modern, criminal and corrupt government of Russia relates to the Communist Party


        Well, again, with which party ?? sad Where is that?
        How can one relate to what is not?
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 26 July 2013 14: 11 New
          0
          Quote: Chen
          Well, again, with which party ??


          The Communist Party is alone.


          Quote: Chen
          Where is that?


          In Kiev, she is.


          Quote: Chen
          How can one relate to what is not?


          She is.
          1. Black
            Black 26 July 2013 16: 45 New
            0
            Quote: Karlsonn
            In Kiev, she is.

            Ah .... Well, duck, if the current is in Kiev. We take your word for it.
            Quote: Karlsonn
            She is.

            It sounds like a spell, but again, believe ...
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 26 July 2013 17: 31 New
              0
              Quote: Chen
              Ah .... Well, duck, if the current is in Kiev. We take your word for it.



              Quote: Chen
              It sounds like a spell, but again, believe ...


              What does the spell have to do with it, we solve the tasks that we can do.
              No one seeks to climb into the Rada, voluntarily into a madhouse, even for a lot of money, there are individuals who are often seen by the zombie creature. This is only a feeding trough; there is no power there.
          2. poquello
            poquello 27 July 2013 00: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: Karlsonn


            Quote: Chen
            How can one relate to what is not?


            She is.


            It's about gopher!
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 27 July 2013 10: 51 New
              +1
              Quote: poquello
              It's about gopher!


              about him.
      2. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 26 July 2013 15: 11 New
        0
        as I understand it, the contra is minusit, and is afraid to say why.
        don't be afraid of the contra. laughing
      3. biglow
        biglow 26 July 2013 18: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: Karlsonn
        Quote: biglow
        Putin acts as a good leader, do it all with the wrong hands


        Please explain to me how modern, criminal ....

        Putin has created a fairly controlled vertical of power, and a communist party or a party with the same name is also present in this vertical. That's all. The system is not perfect, but it's better than what it was under Yeltsin (with a small letter). And comrade Zyuganov and his party are the same Elements of the power mechanism, like others that are present there ..
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 27 July 2013 10: 52 New
          0
          Quote: biglow
          , and the communist party or party with the same name is also present in this vertical


          Oh really?
  • fantast
    fantast 26 July 2013 13: 19 New
    0
    Mikhail Leontyev - Medvedev discredits the state
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 26 July 2013 13: 30 New
      -1
      How can government, food and communism be put on the same shelf?
      Communism is the enemy of modern power.
      Has anyone read the constitution?
      1. Vovka L.
        Vovka L. 26 July 2013 14: 33 New
        +3
        Well, you are handsome, what happened with the advent of Putin and the emergence of EP - this is all unacceptable to the Communists, but what was it in the 90's?
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 26 July 2013 14: 47 New
          0
          Quote: Vovka L.
          Well, you are handsome, what happened with the advent of Putin and the emergence of EP - this is all unacceptable to the Communists, but what was it in the 90's?


          I know that I am handsome! And yes, as the coming to power of Yeltsin, Putin, ED, this is unacceptable for the Communists. (if the Russian language is bad, there is google wink ), comrade people voted for the USSR, in 91, only the opinion of the people turned out to be unnecessary.
          1. poquello
            poquello 27 July 2013 00: 15 New
            +3
            Quote: Karlsonn
            comrade people voted for the USSR in the 91st, only the opinion of the people turned out to be unnecessary.


            Genosse, I also voted for the USSR, but this is history.
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 27 July 2013 10: 53 New
              0
              Quote: poquello
              Genosse, I also voted for the USSR, but this is history.


              Communism is not history - science.
  • 12345
    12345 26 July 2013 13: 31 New
    +2
    I admit, I "Luntik" - frankly annoying.

    Especially him - attempts to look important and respectable. The impression of a "nerd" who got to the hooligans and trying to portray the "cool."

    The government’s meeting on the “development of competition” was especially amusing. Say, monopolists should develop it, and we will control it. Feeling of cheap farce, by golly.

    Competition is like water: if you create a bias (conditions), it will flow. And by order of the water itself does not flow uphill, a nerd should know such things - he should. I look at him and think: whether he is pretending, or in fact - SUCH.

    It’s also funny (if it weren’t so sad) to watch how wolves are appointed as sheep watchmen, and goats as cabbage watchmen.
    In the sense that monopolists should develop competition.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 26 July 2013 13: 37 New
      0
      Quote: 12345
      I admit, I "Luntik" - frankly annoying.


      I confess - it’s not you just a comrade, there really needs to be a barge to be prepared.
  • Black
    Black 26 July 2013 13: 43 New
    +5
    The communist idea is not much different from campaigning.
    History is a witness to this. As the saying goes, "thanks for trying." human society is too vicious to build a state on comedies.
    In the best case, state capitalism with totalitarianism is obtained, in the worst, totalitarianism without sails.
    As for zyuganovschina .... the words are correct, but the role of the obedient "systemic opposition2, apparently, was to the liking that Comrade Zyuganov didn’t want to change it either. The dog crashed, the caravan was on its way, it didn’t go there. !
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 26 July 2013 14: 15 New
      -2
      Quote: Chen
      The communist idea is not much different from campaigning.


      how in your head a comrade is crazy.


      Quote: Chen
      History is a witness to this. As the saying goes, "thanks for trying." human society is too vicious to build a state on comedies.
      In the best case, state capitalism with totalitarianism is obtained, in the worst, totalitarianism without sails.


      !!!

      there is such a science - communism.
      Learn comrade, you will discover a lot for yourself ...
      1. Black
        Black 26 July 2013 16: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Karlsonn
        how in your head a comrade is crazy.

        Kamrad ?? This word is abusive and I ask you not to apply it to me! smile I do not remember the commodity relationship between us.
        Cho, you immediately and for the diagnosis, but for the head doctor, work as a practitioner to begin with.
        Quote: Karlsonn
        there is such a science - communism.
        Learn comrade, you will discover a lot for yourself ...

        I studied ... "5" was for NK.
        Did you study that?
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 26 July 2013 16: 48 New
          0
          Quote: Chen
          Kamrad ?? This word is abusive and I ask you not to apply it to me!


          absolutely not abusive. I won’t do it again. I apologize.


          Quote: Chen
          I do not remember the commodity relationship between us.


          You are right - they were not there.

          Quote: Chen
          Cho, you immediately and for the diagnosis, but for the head doctor, work as a practitioner to begin with.


          What for? I have enough education and therapist to pass.


          Quote: Chen
          I studied ... "5" was for NK.


          If so, then you are Mr. Black the marketmaker was a weather vane, when the USSR swore favorably and the Tax Code handed over to 5, but now it’s clear that they either lied then or change their views later when the situation changes.
          Because of people like you sir Black us - communists and trolls.

          Quote: Chen
          Did you study that?


          Yes, he studied, but not at the university.
          1. Black
            Black 26 July 2013 17: 01 New
            +2
            Quote: Karlsonn
            If so, then you are Mr. Chiny conjuncturist - a weather vane, when the USSR swore favorably and the NK handed over 5, and now it is clear that you either lied then, or change your views later when the situation changes.
            Because of people like you, Mr. Cheny, we are communists and trolls.

            To teach and surrender is one thing, to believe is another.
            Well, because of the fact that in all the universities of the union the IST of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union went headlong, NK- had to go to craft?
            I didn’t lie either then or now. At the seminars I allowed myself to argue. But on exams they do not argue BUT AND DO NOT SWEAR. You have a strange idea of ​​studying at a university in the USSR.
            You are young and very youthful in cutting judgments. But this has passed over the years.
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 26 July 2013 17: 34 New
              0
              Quote: Chen
              But on exams they do not argue BUT AND DO NOT SWEAR. You have a strange idea of ​​studying at a university in the USSR.


              the oath of the October Revolutionary, pioneer, Komsomolets - how would you pass by?

              Quote: Chen
              You are young and very youthful in cutting judgments. But this has passed over the years.


              Does not pass.
              1. Black
                Black 26 July 2013 19: 44 New
                0
                Quote: Karlsonn
                the oath of the October Revolutionary, pioneer, Komsomolets - how would you pass by?

                ... the principle of democratic centralism, the Order of the Komsomol, rights, obligations, remember, oaths, I don’t remember.
                Pioneer gave ...
                I don’t feel myself an oath-breaker, the pioneering age has passed! repeat
                Quote: Karlsonn
                Does not pass.

                Pass, do not hesitate. Everything has its time.
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 27 July 2013 10: 54 New
                  0
                  Quote: Chen
                  Pioneer gave ...
                  I don’t feel myself an oath-breaker, the pioneering age has passed!


                  - a traitor.
    2. ed65b
      ed65b 26 July 2013 14: 31 New
      +4
      uncle of the gene overgrown with factories, parades, Mercedes, party treasury, what for he all will lose? Everyone has already understood it. it remains to wait for the last ideological old man to go to another world and everything, he will have 2%.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 26 July 2013 14: 51 New
        0
        Quote: ed65b
        uncle of the gene overgrown with factories, parades, Mercedes, party treasury, what for he all will lose?


        it somehow contradicts what I say:
        - that this one is not a communist? What is he messing with us? Here in Ukraine there is an activist - Simonenko - so he is the first to dive head first into the barge.
  • morpogr
    morpogr 26 July 2013 13: 48 New
    +3
    After the discharge of Zyuganov in the 1996 year, I have no faith in these communists. And they sold the country and even sold the victory in the elections.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 26 July 2013 14: 16 New
      -2
      Quote: morpogr
      After the discharge of Zyuganov in the 1996 year, I have no faith in these communists. And they sold the country and even sold the victory in the elections.


      Comrade have you been in pioneers?
  • Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 26 July 2013 13: 51 New
    +1
    I do not like the MDA with his government ... obviously it is not in the subject of the leadership of Russia .... poking from corner to corner .... but there is little sense .... other people should be in the government ... with a different mentality, different a look at society, the world order .... and most importantly ... to show with our own examples how to work ..... and with corruption, Dimon got stuck at the end ... this word does not pronounce ..... new people should be ... new blood ..... it’s just that many people feel it, but the Communists said it ... I -ZA !!
    1. Black
      Black 26 July 2013 13: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: Grigorich 1962
      I do not like MDA with his government ... obviously it is not in the subject of the leadership of Russia ..

      About how!
      Government is not the subject of government.
      Putin is "in the subject", and Medvedev is a right-wing deviator!
      What I liked most in this regard was when the GDP was asked - "so what about Serdyukov ???" - "Yes, I’ve only been a president for a year !!" And all on a clear eye !!!!
  • Vovka L.
    Vovka L. 26 July 2013 14: 28 New
    +5
    Quote: Karlsonn
    political instructor, commissar, communist - doesn’t it remind anything?

    Do you really think that Hitler attacked the USSR because of communism? Do you think that if there weren’t communism on the territory of the USSR at that time, Hitler would not attack us?
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 26 July 2013 14: 56 New
      0
      Quote: Vovka L.
      Do you really think that Hitler attacked the USSR because of communism?


      Of course not.


      Quote: Vovka L.
      Do you think that if there weren’t communism on the territory of the USSR at that time, Hitler would not attack us?


      I believe that if (history certainly does not know the subjunctive mood) communism would not have won the Civil War, and our Motherland would have been divided between the amers, the Angles and the French --- Germany would not have been allowed to violate the Treaty of Versailles, and it would have been, at best case like Japan today.
  • obzap
    obzap 26 July 2013 14: 37 New
    -2
    Medvedev is a Jewish clown!
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 26 July 2013 15: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: obzap
      Medvedev is a Jewish clown!


      I knew it!!! what about the Jews remember!
      while about boobs and gays there was no offset! stop
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 26 July 2013 16: 30 New
        0
        Quote: Karlsonn
        while about boobs and gays there was no offset!


        minus put titkofob and homophile? belay and where do you come from what request .
  • chenia
    chenia 26 July 2013 16: 23 New
    +6
    Communism is a great idea. And humanity, so as not to devour itself, will return to it. And do not confuse the Communist and the MEMBER of the party (in the future, you can simply call them MEMBER).

    For twenty years, the Liberasts did not create the best, (as it turned out, they cannot create at all, only destroy), reducing the population of the countries of the USSR by 55-60 ml. people (demographic losses).
    1. Black
      Black 26 July 2013 16: 33 New
      0
      Quote: chenia
      Communism is a great idea. And humanity, so as not to devour itself, will still return to it

      Undoubtedly. Following the dialectic - will return, more than once.
      It is a pity only during this not to live "not for me, not for you."
    2. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 26 July 2013 17: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: chenia
      Communism is a great idea. And humanity, so as not to devour itself, will return to it. And do not confuse the Communist and the MEMBER of the party (in the future, you can simply call them MEMBER).


      good actually I'm talking about the same thing.
    3. vezunchik
      vezunchik 26 July 2013 20: 40 New
      +1
      fully support!
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 26 July 2013 19: 28 New
    0
    I hope that I will live under the new communism
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 27 July 2013 11: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: soldier's grandson
      I hope that I will live under the new communism


      I’ll raise you a rating, everything will be. 100 minus points - removed.
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 26 July 2013 19: 55 New
    -1
    Quote: obzap
    Medvedev is a Jewish clown!

    oh yeah, well done, plus you
  • Budilnik
    Budilnik 26 July 2013 19: 59 New
    0
    Gather a million! Remembering how Medvedev awarded Gorbachev, he threw Syria and Iran to please his overseas friends, how long he thought (until morning) whether to fight Georgia, how he put Serdyukov in the chair of the Minister of Defense, etc., etc. They will collect ...
  • serge
    serge 26 July 2013 20: 10 New
    0
    It will be curious if Putin kicks Medved with the company by Zyuganov’s hands.
  • Budilnik
    Budilnik 26 July 2013 20: 10 New
    +1
    Gather a million! Remembering how Medvedev awarded Gorbachev, he threw Syria and Iran to please his overseas friends, how long he thought (until morning) whether to fight Georgia, how he put Serdyukov in the chair of the Minister of Defense, etc., etc. They will collect ...
    1. vezunchik
      vezunchik 26 July 2013 20: 42 New
      -1
      On Monday, the results of the poll will be published - Gorbachev Yeltsie Medvedev entered the cadre of the "leaders"!
  • Savva30
    Savva30 26 July 2013 21: 25 New
    0
    where to put the signature ...
  • wax
    wax 26 July 2013 22: 18 New
    0
    The resignation of Medvedev can only happen at will.
  • Diviz
    Diviz 26 July 2013 22: 58 New
    0
    There were two ways of World War 3 and the collapse of the Soviet Union. It turned out how it happened. Reality is hiding from people. All this resembles a matrix. Waiting for Neo.
    1. poquello
      poquello 27 July 2013 01: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: DiViZ
      There were two ways of World War 3 and the collapse of the Soviet Union. It turned out how it happened. Reality is hiding from people. All this resembles a matrix. Waiting for Neo.


      Let it be what world war 3, the USSR lost the ideological war, purely eight years before the collapse, and then those ideological bombs that were laid earlier began to work. In the center - “why do we feed the periphery”, on the periphery - “why do we take everything to the center”, Ukrainians are Ukrainians, Tatars are Tatars, etc., “The West is fighting communism”, “The West is not fighting with the people”, “They have life us. " And off we go.
  • Cap
    Cap 26 July 2013 23: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: vezunchik

    Life has confirmed the brilliant Stalinist thesis about the aggravation of the class struggle as socialism develops. As soon as Khrushchev abandoned the party purges, abandoned the principle of the dictatorship of the proletariat, the CPSU party nomenclature began to decay - careerism, commandership, protectionism, fraternity, unheard of privileges, resulting in almost four decades (namely, that was the margin of safety of Stalinist socialism) party elite completely degraded, establishing the most severe bourgeois-criminal dictatorship over the proletariat ...


    Khrushchev just cleaned out Stalin's comrades-in-arms. The same Lawrence Palych shot even before the trial of him. I was afraid to see that he would tell that Khrushch himself had a better snout in the fluff than the majority of the members of the Central Committee. After all, it was Khrushchev who was the record holder in the number of signed death lists under Stalin. And he watered Stalin's shit precisely because he himself was a jerk against his background. And Khrushch “dismissed” the “partelita” because he could not do anything to his accomplices to seize power.
  • Cap
    Cap 26 July 2013 23: 48 New
    +2
    With regards to Luntik and his ministers, then for the barn can be withdrawn through one.
    Gorby's laurels haunt him. That Union collapsed, and this one is trying to Russia.
    Under the slogan of the fight against corruption, Luntik liquidated most of the RUBOPs - departments for combating organized crime and corruption - corruption grew by an order of magnitude, if not two.
    He carried out a “rebranding” of the police, renaming the cops as police officers and, through re-certification, drove out most of those who had not yet switched to commodity-money relations.
    He gave the order to destroy 11 million AKs from 16 available in warehouses, and this is a mob reserve!
    Under his prezikovsti regularly occurred explosions in stockpiles of ammunition.
    He decided to create a NATO base (an enemy bridgehead!) In the largest communication hub in Russia - in Ulyanovsk.
    He has "no complaints" to Serdyukov. Still - Mademoiselle Vasilyeva - the cousin of his wife.
    He is consistently raising the price of alcohol and tobacco. Under Gorbi, this has already happened - buyers are needed for the American heroin imported from Afghanistan.
    In short - a miracle will happen - I’ll spit on the grave!
  • Sasha1273
    Sasha1273 27 July 2013 06: 17 New
    +2
    Of course he was flirting with the amers.
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 27 July 2013 11: 55 New
    -1
    from history it is clear that the USSR was able to bend Europe into World War 2 and forced the rest to stay awake, to raise the economy out of ruin in 5 years, and to raise the Middle East and Far East, and there is still much to talk about, but the main thing is proved by deed, not by words, therefore, for Russia there is no other way
  • Yurban
    Yurban 27 July 2013 13: 32 New
    0
    There are many ways, it is impossible to speak specifically only about one thing, one must choose pavilion, and my opinion, what Putin is doing now, is the best option in the current situation at the moment, due to the drastic change in the situation at the global level.

    Sorry, now on the topic, the fact that the Communists want to merge "Prov. Medvedev", so I do not mind, even for.
  • Diviz
    Diviz 27 July 2013 22: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: DiViZ
    There were two ways of World War 3 and the collapse of the Soviet Union. It turned out how it happened. Reality is hiding from people. All this resembles a matrix. Waiting for Neo.


    Let it be what world war 3, the USSR lost the ideological war, purely eight years before the collapse, and then those ideological bombs that were laid earlier began to work. In the center - “why do we feed the periphery”, on the periphery - “why do we take everything to the center”, Ukrainians are Ukrainians, Tatars are Tatars, etc., “The West is fighting communism”, “The West is not fighting with the people”, “They have life us. " And off we go.

    I do not know what are you talking about. When the USSR collapsed, the United States attacked Iraq. the ussr has taken root in cube Iraq syria and so on. Iraq has oil, so the operation was justified. and before that there was korea vietnam and Iraq was a tidbit.
  • a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 29 July 2013 17: 24 New
    0
    In Torzhok, for 1,5 of the month, we have no hot water supply for a month, and EP probably doesn’t give a damn that we will catch lice soon. And only the Communist Party tried to bring people to the rally. Head of Administration, Torzhok,
    RUBAYLO ANATOLIY ANATOLIYEVICH - a member of the EP, and the reception of EP in the castle. But he promised, “My main task is to overcome and remove all the obstacles that interfere with the dignified life of the Novotors.”
    Another pre-election bullshit?