Turkey has completed testing the domestic tank Altay

In Turkey, from the third of June to the tenth of July, tests of the first domestic tank Altay, Sabah reported on Monday.

As a result of successful testing, it was found that the tank fully meets the specified requirements and is ready for mass production.

The agreement on the creation of the Altay tank was signed in March 2007 between the Defense Industry Secretariat (SSM) of the Ministry of Defense of Turkey and the Turkish company Otokar.

After testing, it is expected to receive an order for serial production of the first batch in the amount of 250 units. The expected cost of one tank will be 5,5 million dollars, the cost of the development project is 500 million dollars.

In recent years, the Turkish defense industry has focused on the development and production of its own products. Turkey managed to achieve self-sufficiency in the defense industry in 54 percent.

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[shinobi]

TTX please! Kindly.

[Gooch]

Quote: shinobi

TTX please! Kindly.

[tronin.maxim]

Judging by the power of the engine, he eats quite a bit, this does not feed for a long time!

[11 black]

Quote: tronin.maxim

Judging by the power of the engine, he eats quite a bit, this does not feed for a long time! lol

this is certainly true, but one must think and he is not running slowly ...

[Ivan_Ivanov]

And judging by the power, weight, and transmission speeds fly very quickly.

[Sirs]

And what do we answer - armature? TTX armata will exceed this tank?

[Constantine]

Quote: Sirs

And what do we answer - armature? TTX armata will exceed this tank?

Given that we have an order of magnitude more experience in tank building, as well as some of the most advanced technologies in this area, yes. With a high degree of probability Armata will discard this tank in the last century with its appearance.

But in general, the question is not correct because Armata is a secret project and asking a question that cannot be answered is stupid.

[Sirs]

You say that this is a secret project and claim that it will be better and the Altai tank in comparison with the rebar of the last century - this is stupid (how do you know). Armata tank is not a fiction? Maybe this project will die out as a "black eagle" project? After all, we cannot know until we see with our own eyes. But we can ask questions and get the expected answers !!!

[Constantine]

Quote: Sirs

You say that this is a secret project and claim that it will be better and the Altai tank in comparison with the rebar of the last century - this is stupid (how do you know). Armata tank is not a fiction? Maybe this project will die out as a "black eagle" project? After all, we cannot know until we see with our own eyes. But we can ask questions and get the expected answers !!!

Shark already partially answered your question:

Our existing machines do not concede., And in many ways surpass Altai.

Those. the so-called "Altai" is already a little late, because it will not be operated for 10 or 15 years. Ours, given the sufficient workload of UralVagonZavod, have retained both personnel and potential. If you have doubts that Russia is able to develop and assemble Armata, then this means that someone has a serious problem with an objective assessment of what is happening, as well as the potential of the enterprise based on the available data.

[shark]

And why do we need to answer this "miracle". Our already existing machines do not dull, but in many respects surpass Altai. It would be much worse if Turkey bought the Leopards or Abrams of the last generation. And so a stable, strong middle peasant

[svp67]

Quote: shark

Why should we answer this "miracle".

There is one very good and serious move that allows this tank, Abrams and Leopard to be transferred to the category of very outdated ones - to bring to mind and put on stream an ATGM with a "shock core" ...

[buzuke]

As a result of successful testing, it was found that the tank fully meets the specified requirements

what kind of requirements do they have, I wonder?

[pinecone]

Obvious inaccuracies in the translation into Russian. "Heavy automatic rifle, fixed guided bullets." And then, the project could not be "borrowed" from the Turkish "commander of the equestrian association", just his name was taken as the name of the tank.

[Revolver]

Probably the Turks were translating, or generally Google Translate trusted.

[xetai9977]

The tank is good. At the level of the best tanks. The translation is really unimportant. I would translate from Turkish, but there’s no time to search on Google, soon to work.

[Gooch]

anyone who needs it will understand) AMT, I finally don’t know what it is, they probably wanted to say MBT, and so the numbers are more important than what is written there)

[ayyildiz]

Serve the engine!

[svp67]

Quote: pinecone

Obvious inaccuracies in the translation into Russian. "Heavy automatic rifle, fixed guided bullets"

The translation is really not accurate, since this system on Western tanks is designed to shoot the main gun, in the event of a laser rangefinder failure ...

[IsailoR]

Quote: pinecone

Obvious inaccuracies in the translation into Russian. "Heavy automatic rifle,

What is surprising? In any ormage there are Turkish guns Altay :))))

[nemec55]

Maybe I don’t catch up with what, but where does the Russian Altai for Turkish Turks

[smersh70]

Quote: nemec55

Russian Altai for Turkish Turks

Yes, nothing at all)))))) named in honor of his commander !!!!

[Hort]

Turks (Oguzes) from Altai and Khakassia came to Anatolia. Apparently they miss the ancestral home)))

[duke]

Altai is the name of the Turkish general, at Ataturk, in addition, do not forget that officially the Turks consider Altai the birthplace of all the Türks and seriously say that the Russians have no right to it.

[Hort]

By the way, when communicating with the Turks, I noted an interesting detail: some words are very similar to Russian or Old Russian. For example, "dede" - grandfather, "baba" - dad / father, "kurt" (wolf) - hort (Old Church Slavonic), "chorba" (Turkish soup) is consonant with the old village Siberian "serbat" (noisily sipping soup from a spoon) :) Well, in terms of some individual features of the mentality, there are also similarities

[smersh70]

Quote: hort

Well, in terms of some individual traits of mentality, too, there are similarities

you better read the books of Murad Hadji --- wormwood grass steppe .. it seems so called .... you will get a lot from there ... and about Santa Claus ... and about the Christmas tree ..... and about Tolstoy ... in general fascinating books ............

[Our]

here is the official website a lot of things can be found))) http://www.adji.ru/interview_056.html

[xetai9977]

HORT This is your legacy of the Golden Horde. In some places in Russia, especially in the outback, the ax is called "balta", the words "yasak", "fig", "bashybuzuk", etc. are also used.

[Hort]

Altai is sort of like "high taiga" translated. As for the opinion of the Turks about our rights to the Altai proper, it can be directed to the same place as the opinion of the Japanese about the Kuril Islands.
By the way, looking at the local population of the Antalya and Alanian coasts, combined with the ancient ruins in the area, I did not lose the feeling that all these people in Anatolia seemed to be by chance and seemed to have no relation to the history of this region. Why such an impression - I don’t know, maybe too contrasted :)

[Yeraz]

Quote: hort

As for the opinion of the Turks about our rights to Altai itself, it can be sent to the same place as the opinion of the Japanese about the Kuril Islands.

Yes, no one talks about the accession of Altai. Yes, everyone knows that this is the Turkic land within Russia, like many others. Collectives from Tatarstan, Altai and other Turkic regions of Russia always participate in all cultural events of independent Turkic states, some even there are individual representatives of their subjects in the Turkic states. Tatarstan has an official representative of Tatarstan in Baku. So, well, these lands are part of Russia, but Russia does not interfere with the communication of the Turks among themselves, which is good and smart.

Quote: hort

By the way, looking at the local population of the Antalya and Alanya coasts,

Have you distinguished the Kurds from the Turks among the local population?

[ayyildiz]

How can he distinguish Kurds from Turks!

[Yeraz]

Quote: ayyildiz

How can he distinguish Kurds from Turks!

Well, just a person has some knowledge. Here I thought maybe he can distinguish)

[Hort]

not immediately and not always. More often it turned out that the man himself said that he was a Kurdish :)) Of all the Kurds with whom I had a chance to communicate, only one was adequate :) The rest were with one or another moron))

[Marek Rozny]

Quote: hort

Altai is sort of like "high taiga" translated.

There are several versions. Altyn-tau - golden mountains, Ala-tau - spotted mountains and other versions. But not "high taiga".

[xetai9977]

Dear duke, I follow the Turkish media regularly, but over the past 20 years I have not heard such statements - "Russians have no rights to Altai." Can you enlighten who said and when?

[Yeraz]

Quote: nemec55

Maybe I don’t catch up with what, but where does the Russian Altai for Turkish Turks

Read the story a little understand.

[nemec55]

So he was waiting for a rebuke then. And some just answered and aroused keen interest for which they are and thank you very much.

[igor67]

Quote: nemec55

So he was waiting for a rebuke then. And some just answered and aroused keen interest for which they are and thank you very much.

And you don’t wait, on the site this tank was discussed many times, and the name, so don’t be lazy, but look at the site’s history in the armored section

[GHG]

Something confuses me, growing into confidence that this object will not withstand the impact of a grenade launcher (not to mention the BPS) in the side projection. It confuses not only the lack of side screens, but also the insecurity of the MV observation devices. I understand everything can be installed, but then the mass will increase, and this is completely different dynamo. characteristics and resource of transmission and suspension units.

[Gooch]

Quote: GES

Something confuses me, growing into confidence that this object will not withstand the impact of a grenade launcher (not to mention the BPS) in the side projection. It confuses not only the lack of side screens, but also the insecurity of the MV observation devices. I understand everything can be installed, but then the mass will increase, and this is completely different dynamo. characteristics and resource of transmission and suspension units.

And so?

[GHG]

It would be better. The plastic model of the "leclerc" painted in an incomprehensible color does not break through with anything?

[Gooch]

Quote: GES

It would be better. The plastic model of the "leclerc" painted in an incomprehensible color does not break through with anything?

for those who are crying from a palm tree, I’ll clarify that Altai developers are interested in further upgrading by Altai developers, they have already discussed this at defense.pk more than once, the equipment will change depending on the tasks, it will be necessary, they will install dynamic protection, it will be necessary, they will remove it, and you can keep your highs with you, only a clinical down can claim that there are invulnerable tanks in the world

GIAT Industries présentera pour la première fois un char de 3 ° genération, destiné au program national de char de combat principal pour l'armée turque. Ce char sera développé par une société turque, et une industrie locale. Giat industries est fière de participer à ce program, grâce à son expérience de 90 ans dans le développement, la production et le support de char de combat principal. Ce char turque sera produit afin de pouvoir intervenir pour tous types d'opérations et être intégré dans un système de centralization digitale. En outre, il sera capable de bénéficier de dernières innovations technologiques.

Turkish modernization Leo 2 and M60

And now look at the shovels T72 cry, and tell us about the super security of the crew and the great Rassian modernization of the tank withstand the hit from a grenade launcher.

[GHG]

Wash the specified substance is you I love when the unbalanced ones begin to tear their moss at the fifth point. I have said everything in the case, and please keep your emotions to yourself. Be careful and you will be happy.

[Gooch]

Quote: GES

Wash the specified substance is you I love when unbalanced ones begin to tear their moss at the fifth point.

In the case, nothing vyser, ala armor is strong and our tanks are fast.

[GHG]

I wrote about the domestic MBT? Akstis !!! Wrote about the "Leclerc" model specified in your comment.

[xetai9977]

In fact, the Altai is based on the Korean K-2, a magnificent mountain tank.

[Aaron Zawi]

below "Sabra 2". Upgraded IVP M-60 for Turkey.

[ed65b]

And if the armored wagon is put on top, it will be even better.

[ayyildiz]

Quote: ed65b

And if the armored wagon is put on top, it will be even better.

Be sure to dress! Thanks for the idea

[ed65b]

Quote: ayyildiz

Quote: ed65b

And if the armored wagon is put on top, it will be even better.

Be sure to dress! Thanks for the idea

Forever please

[shark]

But didn’t they tell you, 40 janissaries are included in the tank’s kit. They are surrounded by a dense crowd and are caught by all the flying ammunition.

[Gooch]

Quote: shark

But didn’t they tell you, 40 janissaries are included in the tank’s kit. They are surrounded by a dense crowd and are caught by all the flying ammunition.

[duke]

yes no, beat off scimitars

[nemec55]

Janissaries are captive children captured during raids of the Turks

[USNik]

And so?

Sound the weight with additional screens, tone 70-75? And please note that this is just a drawing, and the tank was without them during the test. The gun is much inferior to the Rheinmetalovsky. There are no active armor blocks on the VLD NLD. A huge tower, vulnerable from the side projection ... In general, the work is still a lot of cars and carts. And another question, what kind of

Invisible Roketsan Boron Carbide Armor

?

[Gooch]

Quote: USNik

Sound the weight with additional screens, tone 70-75? And please note that this is just a drawing, and the tank was without them during the test. The gun is much inferior to the Rheinmetalovsky. There are no active armor blocks on the VLD NLD. A huge tower, vulnerable from the side projection ... In general, the work is still a lot of cars and carts.

65 tons approximately. The gun is inferior, absolutely like the shovel with which the T-90 is armed. There is no dynamic armor even on Merkava. Active defense decides. A huge tower, a distinctive feature of all Western tanks, this does not stop them from resisting the tanks of the Soviet school.

[Kars]

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[Kars]

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[ayyildiz]

Tested the armor developed by ROKETSAN

[Gooch]

To be honest, in a lateral projection, Altai is somewhat similar to a merkava

[xetai9977]

I am translating "Altai battle tank (or tank for active combat) of generation 3+. Named in honor of the commander of the 5th cavalry division during the Liberation War Fakhreddin Altai. Weight-60 tons. The main weapon is a 120mm smooth-bore gun, as well as a 12,7-caliber machine gun, 90. Speed-XNUMXkm / h "

[ayyildiz]

FNSS and Indonesian PINDAD will jointly develop medium tank

[ratuld]

Nightmare! A whole tank! Altai! It's a challenge. Moreover, it is undisguised. Since the XNUMXs, Jews have been fighting heroically against themselves. Now the northern Semites in Turkey have finally decided their geopolitical quest. Altai! This is Sannikov Land! The center of the world. Turkish GRAIL and Longinus's spear. I think that Shoigu should answer RADICAL! To call a stretcher and a shovel - "a complex of ritual purposes" "KONSTANTINOPOL" !!!

[Gooch]

Quote: ratuld

Nightmare! A whole tank! Altai! It's a challenge. Moreover, it is undisguised. Since the XNUMXs, Jews have been fighting heroically against themselves. Now the northern Semites in Turkey have finally decided their geopolitical quest. Altai! This is Sannikov Land! The center of the world. Turkish GRAIL and Longinus's spear. I think that Shoigu should answer RADICAL! To call a stretcher and a shovel - "a complex of ritual purposes" "KONSTANTINOPOL" !!!

[Semurg]

The Turks gained a good pace in the economy over the 20 years the USSR was falling apart. I look and go to the defense industry for self-sufficiency and arms exports, soon traditional players in the arms market will have a worthy rival, and for those who want to ridicule this business, see what the Turks did 15 -20 years ago and current products, progress is on the face and it is very significant.

[Yeraz]

Well done. 54% of self-sufficiency deserves respect.
And for those who cannot understand why Altai, learn the history of the Turks and understand.
This is the same if the Greeks called their tank Constantinople. And the Turks would be indignant. Altai is the ancestral home of the Turks and this name is in the course, there are many people in the Turkic countries with that name. Or will we force all the Turks to change their names?

[nemec55]

Here I still did not have enough to learn the history of the Turks (general agree)

[Yeraz]

Quote: nemec55

Here I still did not have enough to learn the history of the Turks (general agree)

And no one speaks in detail. But knowing the general, you would know about Altai. Türks 300 million plus the history of Russia and Russians is closely intertwined with the Türks.

[ratuld]

It's very funny how you define - "Turks". By smell or foot size?
Haplogroup R300A000 accounts for 000.
And I personally do not know what "Turks" are - Lev Nikolayevich Gumilev really wrote something - with love. But he died and did not know that everything is much simpler.
Turks are mainly Semites with haplos J1 and J2.There are ordinary Jews.
And there is nothing unnatural or offensive here.

[USNik]

To be honest, in a lateral projection, Altai is somewhat similar to a merkava

Not really, except in size. For comparison, not a small leo2a4 and early Altai: Where much more? It will be difficult only for a disabled person not to get into such a fool, and disguising him is problematic. Unless the Turks plan to use it as Jews and Americans, for corral and shooting of the Papuans, in the sense of chasing the Kurds. But then what kind of incentives can they have on the foreign market? Who needs such a mountain for 6-7 million? Regarding the MKEK120 and 2A46M guns, we can say that the first is an incomplete Rh120-based craft, and the second, tested in battles and can fire missile-projectiles (srach was already here

http://topwar.ru/13071-sravnenie-altay-leopard-2a-t-90.html

) And again, the safe maneuvering angles of this giant will be extremely small in view of the weakened lateral zones of the huge tower, the gap between the hull and the tower will be a weak spot, the frontal projection without KAZ will be weakened ... There is still a lot of work, because In the market, a raw solution will fail.

[buga1979]

Quote: Constantine

Quote: Sirs

And what do we answer - armature? TTX armata will exceed this tank?

Given that we have an order of magnitude more experience in tank building, as well as some of the most advanced technologies in this area, yes. With a high degree of probability Armata will discard this tank in the last century with its appearance.

But in general, the question is not correct because Armata is a secret project and asking a question that cannot be answered is stupid.

well for this tank and t-72 for the eyes is enough

[GHG]

A little video to the topic

[soldier's grandson]

and why do not show where you can knock it out? it's somehow not fair

[ed65b]

So the Turks will be drawn away from the Americans, the United States will begin to sag, there is a real chance of becoming the first in the arms trade. Need to help. Still bend the lightings and you can sleep peacefully. and urgently lobby for the purchase by Azerbaijan of our equipment. as well as repair and modernization.

[ayyildiz]

Quote: ed65b

So, the Turks will be drawn away from the Americans, the United States will begin to sag

It is high time that we could lead our independent policy!

Quote: ed65b

There are real chances to be the first in the arms trade. Need help

We will not be the first, but good players in this field can become!

[ratuld]

It’s not the tanks that fight - but the crews. So the old -72-two deuces with normal soldiers inside are chasing the whole folded international rabble in the tail and mane in Syria. Including domestic supermen from Chechnya and the outskirts.
So the Turks need about fifty years to design and assemble military equipment.
First let this Altai fight at least with the Zulus.
and then we'll see.

[ayyildiz]

Tank = 402
BMP = 365
Shilka KM = 32
BRDM = 27
ZKA = 6
IGA = 8
KMU = 26
BTR = 16
ZA = 32
Mobil 14,5mm = 16

Losses of the Syrian army in March 13

[smersh70]

especially look at 4.38 ... complete lack of professionalism ... and this is your normal soldiers)))))))

[xetai9977]

ratuld The usual vocabulary of hatred. The Crimean War showed what this leads to.

[Regis]

Sorry, but do you yourself believe that the Syrians lost 400 tanks in a month?

[smersh70]

Quote: Regis

Syrians lost 400 tanks in a month?

this is not a month since the start of the confrontation ....

[ayyildiz]

For the entire period of hostilities, not a month!

TANK BMP SHILKA BRDM ZKA IGA KMU BTR ZA 14.5 TOPLAM

31.08.2012 128 140 9 16 --- 4 7 --- 7 5 316
30.09.2012 139 155 10 15 --- 4 10 --- 10 5 348
31.10.2012 192 194 12 15 --- 7 14 --- 13 5 452
30.11.2012 223 229 17 17 5 8 16 10 17 5 544
31.12.2012 279 266 20 20 5 8 20 10 19 5 652
30.01.2013 305 291 22 22 5 8 22 11 22 5 713
28.02.2013 333 307 22 23 6 8 24 12 28 6 769
31.03.2013 380 330 30 26 6 7 24 14 31 14 862
30.04.2013 402 365 32 27 6 8 26 14 32 14 928
31.05.2013 428 388 34 29 6 8 28 17 32 15 985
30.06.2013 458 402 34 31 6 8 31 17 33 15 1035

[Regis]

Then I apologize! I’m probably not looking at the phone clearly.

[ed65b]

so they are not fighting there with the boys. Therefore, the loss. where without them. But after all, they are hammering a jihadist asset. And this is the most important thing.

[Gooch]

Quote: ed65b

so they are not fighting there with the boys. Therefore, the loss. where without them. But after all, they are hammering a jihadist asset. And this is the most important thing.

Once again, it proves that it costs Israel, the United States or NATO to begin a military operation against Assad, how it will be rolled out in a couple of hours, because illiterate aborigines with AK and Slingshots transporting 400 tanks of the regular army each, this is too much, this already says first of all that The Syrian army is not able to confront a serious enemy.

By the way, boys are fighting.

[GP]

Quote: Gooch

Once again, it proves that it costs Israel, the United States or NATO to begin a military operation against Assad, how it will be rolled out in a couple of hours, because illiterate aborigines with AK and Slingshots transporting 400 tanks of the regular army each, this is too much, this already says first of all that The Syrian army is not able to confront a serious enemy.

By the way, boys are fighting.

Yeah, hellish rambo
Brave for women’s skirts, which is generally a characteristic feature of any partisan movement. For the regulars, the local population definitely fetters the action. The Amer found a simple way against this - a woman or a man is not visible from a height and conscience does not torment, herachat wherever he pleases in "name (insert the desired word)".

[tilovaykrisa]

Send a couple to the Syrian border, to the territory controlled by the PKK and see what kind of device on YouTube.

[sergey158-29]

For the Turks - not bad, although as for me, it is remade for itself - LEOPARD-2