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During the spring draft of 2013, more than 10 thousand people joined the ranks of the Strategic Missile Forces

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During the spring draft of 2013, more than 10 thousand people joined the ranks of the Strategic Missile Forces

During the spring conscription of 2013, more than 10 thousand people joined the ranks of the Strategic Missile Forces (RVSN). Among recruits 13% have a higher education. Compared to last year, the number of military personnel with complete secondary education increased by 11%.


Also among the young recruits of the Strategic Missile Forces - about 30% of specialists in the operation of road transport, two-thirds of whom were trained in military occupational specialties in educational institutions of DOSAAF Russia.

The bulk of the replenishment arrived is called up by the military commissariats of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, in whose territory the Central Military District is located, and is serving in the combat units of the Strategic Missile Forces deployed in the Central Military District.

Young recruits were transported to the formations and units of the Strategic Missile Forces during the 2013 recruiting campaign in the spring with more than 460 teams accompanied by 1000 military personnel.

More than 30% of recruits began training in the training centers of the Strategic Missile Forces, stationed in Pereslavl-Zalessky (Yaroslavl region), Ostrov (Pskov region), as well as in the school of technicians at the Kapustin Yar site (Astrakhan region). Today, experts on more than 30 military occupational specialties are trained in the RVSN training network, including multi-axle driver mechanics, driver mechanics and drivers of road and earth-moving machinery, power supply system specialists, water supply system maintenance specialists, and others.

Special attention is paid to the state of health of the young recruits arriving in the army. Within two weeks from the date of the arrival of the draft teams to the military unit, an in-depth medical examination of each soldier was carried out, his health and nutritional status were assessed with the aim of the most rational distribution of personnel across divisions and military occupational specialties.

According to the Chief Inspector of the Medical Service of the Strategic Missile Forces, Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Shalyutin, compared with last year, the number of military personnel serving in conscription reduced to a weight deficit from 8 to 6%. According to him, the number of soldiers of the autumn conscription 2012 with a deficit of body weight is currently less than 1%.

Also, all military personnel undergoing military service are being examined using the IMEDIS-EXPERT-BRT-PC hardware and software systems, and, if necessary, using the Barrier-14 polygraph. The use of such complexes makes it possible, with a greater probability, to reveal the presence of narcotic experience, alcohol dependence, criminal past, to establish the suicidal orientation of the person.

The service activity of soldiers and sergeants serving in conscription is aimed at ensuring the maintenance of the minimum level of readiness of the military units of the Strategic Missile Forces to perform tasks for the purpose in any situation. Soldiers and sergeants in the staff units, formations, shifts and calculations solve the problem of maintaining combat duty, maintain combat readiness of units and systems.
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  1. experienced
    experienced 18 July 2013 14: 11 New
    +4
    I’m all the same for forming the Strategic Missile Forces and the Navy exclusively by contract soldiers hi There will be enough space for conscripts and in other branches of the armed forces to "prokanut" for a year.
    1. seller trucks
      seller trucks 18 July 2013 14: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: seasoned
      All the same, I am in favor of the Strategic Missile Forces and the Navy being formed exclusively by contract soldiers. There will be enough space for the draftees and in other branches of the armed forces to "run for a year."


      But what about the Air Force, Airborne, and Air Defense, tank troops, and artillery is not the same now?
      1. experienced
        experienced 18 July 2013 14: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: seller trucks
        but what about the air force

        In the Air Force, conscripts are engaged in airfield services and that’s all, let the runways sweep and nothing more
        Quote: seller trucks
        , Airborne, and air defense, tank troops, and artillery

        I agree completely here, but this can be done secondarily hi
        Just a speech in the news about the Strategic Missile Forces, but the Navy itself asked for the tongue, then "did not dig" smile
        1. aviamed90
          aviamed90 18 July 2013 15: 07 New
          +4
          experienced

          About the Air Force - I agree.

          However, under the USSR conscripts were appointed to the positions of aviation mechanics. Then they were somehow reduced in silence.

          Although now on the website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (in the section for draftees) it is available:

          "Aviation mechanic for the operation and repair of the airframe and propulsion systems of aircraft, aircraft weapons, aircraft equipment and radio-electronic equipment.

          Position - Mechanic
          Established Military Rank - Private
          Tariff category - 2 "
          1. experienced
            experienced 18 July 2013 15: 10 New
            +5
            Quote: aviamed90
            However, under the USSR, conscripts were appointed to the positions of aviation mechanics. Then they were somehow quietly reduced. Although now on the website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (in the section for conscripts) it is available: "Aviation mechanic for the operation and repair of the airframe and propulsion systems of aircraft, aircraft weapons, aviation equipment and radio electronic equipment. mechanic Established military rank - Private Tariff category - 2 "

            The service was 2 of the year and the contingent of conscripts was wider (vocational school, technical school), that is, there were many conscripts already mechanics with ranks, it was only necessary to give specialization and worked probably under the supervision of ensigns hi
            1. aviamed90
              aviamed90 18 July 2013 15: 16 New
              +1
              experienced

              Under the supervision of an airplane technician and IAS engineer-engineers.
              1. Rus2012
                Rus2012 18 July 2013 19: 27 New
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                Quote: aviamed90
                experienced

                Under the supervision of an airplane technician and IAS engineer-engineers.

                ... and I still found the technicians of the aircraft - conscripts, at the end of 70xx :)
                Praporsky position, aircraft L-29. Food in the officer’s flight canteen ... Yes, and the salary is something 38rub. Actually, it’s not bad ...
            2. seller trucks
              seller trucks 18 July 2013 15: 21 New
              +4
              Quote: seasoned
              The service was 2 of the year and the contingent of conscripts was wider (vocational school, technical school), that is, there were many conscripts already mechanics with ranks, it was only necessary to give specialization and worked probably under the supervision of ensigns


              You are smart, (+) I already wrote that it would be nice to profile vocational schools and techies to give to the balance of the armed forces, as it was before, and that the 1: 10 contest (I’m joking)
              1. experienced
                experienced 18 July 2013 15: 25 New
                +4
                Quote: seller trucks
                You are smart

                You flatter me repeat
                Quote: seller trucks
                it would be nice to give specialized vocational schools and techies to balance the aircraft, as it was before

                100% with both hands "FOR" and MO is good for both learners and civilian industries in the future. If only before that all sorts of commercial colleges and institutes to "disperse" so that future unemployed people do not breed, and students in sufficient numbers to provide ...
                1. seller trucks
                  seller trucks 18 July 2013 15: 47 New
                  +3
                  Quote: seasoned
                  100% with both hands "FOR" and MO is good for both learners and civilian industries in the future. If only before that, all sorts of commercial colleges and institutes were to be "dispersed" so that future unemployed people would not be produced, and enough to provide students with enough students ...


                  since they started talking, this year, my daughter, graduated from the 9th, 70% of the school graduates (9th graduates) "asked" to leave politely, the director still scared how dashingly he studied in high school and this was the thought that came to me, and not Was it all done on purpose? This is to ensure that the vocational school and techies go, especially, exams do not need to be taken, according to the results of the GIA. may have decided in this way to end the dominance of "lawyers" and managers.
              2. Thunderbolt
                Thunderbolt 18 July 2013 15: 58 New
                +5
                My friend served for 2 years in the Strategic Missile Forces. His attitude to "nuts" is cool, but he has a category in power martial arts. 2 years he guarded the perimeter of some object, half of his service in a camouflaged concrete fortification, the rest of the time in a reserve group. So not only the Strategic Missile Forces need specific technicians and contract soldiers, but also morally stable conscripts (they will teach the rest) .I wish the guys to serve with honor and go home drinks
                1. seller trucks
                  seller trucks 18 July 2013 16: 11 New
                  +4
                  Aunt, do you have Science and Life?
                  There is science, but no life. I had a man caught fishing last winter. Now so, not a spouse, but a souvenir. Only the mustache is standing.
                  If not for you soldiers, even cry.
                  Come, checker, to me, in the auxiliary room, I’ll pour you a barbary.
                  No. You'd better give the "Technique of Youth".
                  1. Thunderbolt
                    Thunderbolt 18 July 2013 17: 03 New
                    +3
                    Quote: seller trucks
                    give "Technique to youth
                    +++ my favorite was a magazine drinks , in fact, such a cool outlet, in short .. from cover to cover, and then re-read some moments with Batya --- there was no Internet, all typescript and rotator are our best friends. But everything is the same --- when you get a fresh one from the mailbox monthly magazine --- it means lay down and read from cover to cover (and the library contains all the old issues, you can go to "compare songs". EH The times were before ... the sky itself smiled ... ZY. And I also had a friend, and his dad worked at the Kuznetsov plant (dviguns), and so until I read all the numbers of the ZVO from him, I never left him. In general, YES ... all the ways are open, but the price is not the same soldier
                    1. seller trucks
                      seller trucks 18 July 2013 17: 30 New
                      +2
                      my favorite section was "Historical series" TM ", pictures with illustrations of tanks and airplanes, artist Petrovsky, with Isaac Asimov" Space currents "got acquainted, it was difficult to read science fiction in the USSR. And remember to" Around the World "application" Seeker " a thing passed from hand to hand to an unusable state
                      1. Thunderbolt
                        Thunderbolt 18 July 2013 18: 35 New
                        +1
                        Quote: seller trucks
                        "Around the world"
                        Around the World, too, I remember, but not like that, because there are about all sorts of meaningless mountain peaks and other things, and there Piotrovsky's drawing is immediately clear to everyone when he "prodambasit", ... comrades don't give out anymore
                        С
                  2. Quiet
                    Quiet 19 July 2013 00: 40 New
                    0
                    http://technicamolodezhi.ru/magazin/

                    give "Technique to Youth".

                    Please ... there are even issues for 2013 .... hi
                2. bistrov.
                  bistrov. 18 July 2013 19: 58 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Thunderbolt
                  , half service in masked concrete reinforcement

                  Apparently, this is the protection and defense of special storage facilities for nuclear weapons.
        2. user
          user 18 July 2013 16: 27 New
          0
          I want to add about the Air Force. There, for 40 years no one has been sweeping the airfield. The used engine is put on Kraz and they are launched along the runway, it sweeps away everything with a stream.
          This is true for general development.
          1. ICT
            ICT 18 July 2013 21: 40 New
            +1
            c'mon on take-off, fighters manually go and collect stones, but a simple communal machine marks it, and this crap
            Quote: user
            The used engine is put on Kraz and they are launched along the runway, it sweeps away everything with a stream.
            only in the winter a couple of times from the taxiways the snow roll knocks down,
          2. Quiet
            Quiet 19 July 2013 01: 10 New
            0
            The used engine is put on Kraz

            "Serpent Gorynych" - called
        3. tverskoi77
          tverskoi77 18 July 2013 16: 28 New
          +1
          conscripts are engaged in airfield services and that’s all, let the runways sweep and nothing more
          it is precisely after such an attitude towards soldiers of military service in our army that there are a lot of deviators and deserters.
        4. max702
          max702 18 July 2013 20: 12 New
          +2
          Awesome and helpful service a year to sweep the airfield !! And tell me why then do you need a call? what will this soldier learn in what is its value for protecting the homeland in the future? If you say a year, then it may not even appeal at all, let it inject money and raise the GDP of the motherland, and from the GDP we will already hire a professional who is in the Strategic Missile Forces and in the Air Force and Navy and so on ....
          1. experienced
            experienced 18 July 2013 20: 18 New
            +3
            Quote: max702
            Awesome and helpful service a year to sweep the airfield !! And And tell me why then I need a call? What will this soldier learn, and what is its value for protecting the homeland in the future?

            In Soviet times, there was a good conscription system in military enlistment offices. We were schoolchildren, boys, were registered and we passed a medical commission while still at school, along the way, the level of knowledge was tested and physical fitness was visible, as a result, a fitness group from A1 to to was set (I don’t know, but a classmate from B7 ended up in a construction battalion) and as a result, when "buyers" came to the military registration and enlistment office, then, depending on the type of troops, they got registration cards of the corresponding category and someone went to the Airborne Forces or the Kremlin regiment or to the Navy, and someone to the construction battalion or railway station ... Who needs a strip of revenge or others on outlets to cook hi
          2. tverskoi77
            tverskoi77 19 July 2013 11: 51 New
            0
            Awesome and helpful service a year to sweep the airfield !!
            The Soviet army successfully adopted the attitude of officers towards a soldier from imperial times. The motto that a soldier is cattle @ was and remains: to pick up the bulls for officers from the headquarters, clean glasses, cut lawns, paint fences, etc.
            There are of course rare exceptions, but they are rare.
    2. Nevsky
      Nevsky 18 July 2013 18: 41 New
      +1
      Urgently! The news is off topic!
      A female lieutenant will be tried for mocking grandfathers.

      Expression: I watched the video. I wanted to join the army for this lady. Any tips for getting into this part? (15 likes scored on YouTube)



      In the Belogorsk garrison (Amur region), a criminal case has been instituted against the company commander of the military unit 53790, Lieutenant Olga Ovcharenko. According to the investigation, she repeatedly used physical violence against her subordinates.
      In particular, it was preliminary established that in February Ovcharenko, in front of the formation of personnel, used physical violence against two conscripts subordinate to her. "The fault of the first was that he did not have time to fulfill the order of the officer to prepare for her a plan-outline for conducting classes in the company, the second - he hemmed the collar with green, not white threads (old servicemen sew the collars with green threads according to non-statutory tradition)", - Interfax was told by the press service of the Main Military Investigation Department.

      In addition, the officer forced a private soldier, dressed in a combined-arms protective suit and gas mask, to take an emphasis lying down and begin to push up from the floor, and then pulled off a rubber gas mask and sharply released it, which caused physical pain to his subordinate. A video appeared on the Internet with bullying of soldiers.
      The case against the officer was initiated under the article "Abuse of official powers, committed with the use of violence." Now the investigation is clarifying all the circumstances and interrogating witnesses.

      http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1107145&cid=8
    3. Rus2012
      Rus2012 18 July 2013 19: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: seasoned
      I’m all the same for forming the Strategic Missile Forces and the Navy exclusively by contract soldiers

      ... by and large it is. Almost all combat crews are officers and contract soldiers. And all sorts of auxiliary ones - the guard, the warm water of the housing estates and places of the RPM - are the lot of conscripts.
      Here is a list of the WUS:
      mechanics-drivers of multiaxial vehicles, drivers and drivers of road and earth-moving machinery, specialists of energy supply systems, specialists in maintenance of water supply systems
      , there are multi-axle mechanics - there were almost always ensigns, with the rare exception of especially gifted conscripts on the Pioneers ...
    4. bistrov.
      bistrov. 18 July 2013 19: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: seasoned
      I’m all the same for forming the Strategic Missile Forces and the Navy exclusively by contract soldiers

      The fact is that the contingent of urgent conscription performs auxiliary functions, for example: guarding and defense of silo launchers (three people, including a sergeant, in a specially equipped carpentry, armored curtains, anti-grenade nets on the windows, at the top a fire structure (armored hood) with a machine gun PKT, equipped with a day-optical, night-infrared sight, the entrance through a recessed armored hatch, intercede for three to four days
      ), drivers of wheeled transport vehicles, auxiliary heavy multi-axle tractors (for example, the removal of special heavy equipment during reconstruction of launchers, specialists in the operation of domestic water supply systems and heating systems, OERB specialists (separate maintenance and repair battalions), etc. All special posts are more seriously staffed by officers , super-servicemen.
    5. Quiet
      Quiet 18 July 2013 22: 25 New
      -5
      There will be enough space for conscripts and in other branches of the armed forces to "prokanut" for a year.

      And in the Airborne Forces you can try to "prokantovatsya" dear, il the guts are thin !!! ??? am Do not anger members of the forum, soon on August 2, ... angry drinks
      1. experienced
        experienced 18 July 2013 22: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: Quiet
        And in the Airborne Forces you can try to "prokantovatsya" dear, il the guts are thin !!! ??? Do not anger the members of the forum, soon August 2

        Quiet, go to the bathhouse ... If the logic of the problem is not with me, but with the doctor ... I always go without any fear, and on my holidays I celebrate so that they fear me laughing So your "presenting" golimy and fall and quiet, otherwise I will be upset and add evil to you ... Before you run into, look at whom you are pulling. hi
        1. Quiet
          Quiet 18 July 2013 22: 44 New
          -4
          What is the address ... I will order and pay laughing in the morning you have a barrel of brine ....
          1. experienced
            experienced 18 July 2013 22: 48 New
            +2
            Quote: Quiet
            What is the address ... I will order and pay you a barrel of brine in the morning ....

            I am not poor and I am ready to buy for myself what I need, but I accepted your answer, I have no complaints, "-" I will not drinks You are welcome hi But henceforth, try not to run into the dashing title of VDVeshnik ... The people do not understand this wink
            1. Quiet
              Quiet 18 July 2013 23: 01 New
              -5
              The people do not understand this

              Do you think that YOU are the whole people ???? ... minus no further for me .....
              1. experienced
                experienced 18 July 2013 23: 16 New
                +2
                Quote: Quiet
                Do you think that YOU are the whole people ???? ... minus no further for me .....

                I’m not the whole nation and I don’t answer for the whole nation, but if they come upon me, I’ll answer from myself laughing
              2. smile
                smile 19 July 2013 22: 41 New
                0
                Quiet
                Alas ... tovarisch, you spread your feathers in vain ... as a people. I experienced us, unfortunate people, I meant ..... for some reason I personally don’t like it, in this case, it’s your position ...
      2. Quiet
        Quiet 18 July 2013 22: 41 New
        -3
        Apparently there was a blue one that is against August 2, the day of the Airborne Forces, which is minus me .... Die shit am
        1. experienced
          experienced 18 July 2013 22: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: Quiet
          Apparently there was a blue one that is against August 2, the day of the Airborne Forces, which is minus me .... Die

          And you yourself on the forum, how has VDVeshnika recommended? Or everyone who is such a member of "Quiet" with a helicopter on his avatar should oppose the Airborne Forces?
          Damn, I wanted to press the minus, but I pressed the plus ... Quiet, I will then catch up with the minuses laughing do not rejoice in it + wink
          1. Quiet
            Quiet 18 July 2013 22: 52 New
            -3
            As VDVeshnik recommended?

            Ento how ?? to you ignorant in these matters ??? wassat
            1. experienced
              experienced 18 July 2013 22: 57 New
              +1
              Quote: Quiet
              Ento how ?? to you ignorant in these matters ???

              I know the VAF and SSI ka specialists in aviation
              I know KARS as an expert in tanks
              I know MUCH who in the Navy
              I know Esaul .... I’d better not know
              But you "gray wolf" I do not know request
              and turn on the backing track, you want to get rid of the minuses show that you deserve otherwise go to the skull
              1. Quiet
                Quiet 18 July 2013 23: 10 New
                -3
                Die the idiot !!!! I have only skydiving over 2000 !!!!

                And you apparently are waiting for Old to pi .. endos report ??? Go through my ALL comments and see weightlessness !!! DOWN !!!!!
                1. studentmati
                  studentmati 18 July 2013 23: 15 New
                  +4
                  Maltsey, stop the dumb shit. Meet and come off on top of each other.
                  1. Quiet
                    Quiet 18 July 2013 23: 20 New
                    -6
                    Maltsey, stop the dumb shit. Meet and come off on top of each other.

                    Alexander hi I am far beyond 50. I'm not a dick ....
                    1. studentmati
                      studentmati 18 July 2013 23: 32 New
                      +3
                      I apologize for the insult. hi
                      1. Quiet
                        Quiet 18 July 2013 23: 38 New
                        -1
                        I apologize for the insult

                        hi Yes, you did not offend me ... This Alex apparently tasted dried fly agaric ..... wassat
                      2. experienced
                        experienced 18 July 2013 23: 40 New
                        +1
                        Quote: studentmati
                        I apologize for the insult.

                        Unpretentious hi For the future, you should not interfere in other people's drunken showdowns, plus, to level the previous "-" hi
                      3. Quiet
                        Quiet 18 July 2013 23: 43 New
                        -1
                        No pretensions hi For the future, you shouldn't get involved in other people's drunken showdowns, plus to level the previous one "-" hi

                        Drunk YOU ... And I haven’t been drinking for a long time .....
                      4. experienced
                        experienced 18 July 2013 23: 47 New
                        0
                        Quote: Quiet
                        Drunk YOU ... And I haven’t been drinking for a long time .....

                        I'm drunk, but I control myself and the situation around! You said that you would drive me into the skull and I am waiting for this moment ... I have not been driven into "dullness" for more than a year and a half here ... Am I waiting? bully
              2. experienced
                experienced 18 July 2013 23: 20 New
                0
                Quote: studentmati
                Maltsey, stop the dumb shit. Meet and come off on top of each other.

                Nobody told you that harnessing to someone else's swara will you rake from two sides? Student ... okay ... wassat As a cadet, I put several of them in their place, I just had physical training, but now I'm ready to meet with my more than one hundred kg angry
                1. Quiet
                  Quiet 18 July 2013 23: 21 New
                  -1
                  Nobody told you that harnessing to someone else’s swara will rake from two sides

                  Do not decide for two ..... fool
                2. Quiet
                  Quiet 18 July 2013 23: 39 New
                  0
                  I returned the plus .... hi
            2. experienced
              experienced 18 July 2013 23: 15 New
              +2
              Quote: Quiet
              Die the idiot !!!! I have only skydiving over 2000 !!!!

              It seems that they didn’t open up and beat their heads into concrete ... I sympathize winked
              Quote: Quiet
              And you apparently are waiting for Old to pi .. endos report ??? Go through my ALL comments and see weightlessness !!! DOWN !!!!!

              Of course, only information from you is not enough ... lol
          2. Quiet
            Quiet 18 July 2013 23: 12 New
            -1
            But you "gray wolf" I do not know

            ... These words were the last in the life of the kolobok !!!! There were no foxes !!!! am
            By the way, I didn’t put you a single minus because of your misunderstanding !!! The law of the forum is this !!! FIRST UNDERSTAND, ASK QUESTIONS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE APPEARANCE ONCE AGAIN, BUT DON'T PORN A NUCKLE WITH A BODY !!! ELSE YOU WILL BE WITH SKULLS !!! hi
            1. experienced
              experienced 18 July 2013 23: 21 New
              +1
              Quote: Quiet
              ELSE YOU WILL BE WITH SKULLS !!!

              Waiting hi
              We will compete wassat
              1. Quiet
                Quiet 18 July 2013 23: 24 New
                -4
                Waiting
                We will compete


                Have a drink of brine and apologize tomorrow ... I am a bit sick to even minus such a junkie, or drunk ???
                1. experienced
                  experienced 18 July 2013 23: 28 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Quiet
                  Have a drink of brine and apologize tomorrow ... I am a bit sick to even minus such a junkie, or drunk ???

                  I don’t give a fuck to you, but I didn’t find myself in the trash, but because there is no more bazaar, there is war and there will be no apology, I drove by myself - rake it yourself !!! Well, I would like to see myself, and not look so cool in turtles ... Good luck in your hands and Claudia wassat
                  Look at the date of my registration on the site wassat
                  1. Quiet
                    Quiet 18 July 2013 23: 29 New
                    -4
                    Go ahead!
      3. Quiet
        Quiet 18 July 2013 23: 34 New
        -2
        Damn, I wanted to press the minus, but I pressed the plus

        I return .... I need to drink less .... drinks bully
        1. experienced
          experienced 18 July 2013 23: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: Quiet
          Go ahead!

          In the Russian language there is the word dawn, however, I understand that I went through wassat
          Well, my plus and minus is not confused, we are waiting for the end of the show "In Turtles" laughing
    6. smile
      smile 19 July 2013 22: 43 New
      0
      Quiet
      Well. I drew you a minus .... rank me blue too? ... You’ll laugh, but in that case I won’t even be offended by you .... it’s ridiculous. honestly...
  2. smile
    smile 19 July 2013 22: 36 New
    0
    Quiet
    Wah ... why rude ... while only you are angry ...
  • SerAll
    SerAll 19 July 2013 00: 25 New
    0
    Sorry, not the topic, but the VPK designers created the Krymsk chassis with a hybrid power plant for a promising armored personnel carrier
    http://rosinform.ru/2013/07/17/konstruktory-vpk-sozdali-shassi-krymsk-s-gibridno
    y-energoustanovkoy-dlya-perspektivnogo-bronetransportera_01 /
  • Homo
    Homo 19 July 2013 15: 54 New
    -1
    Quote: seasoned
    I’m all the same for forming the Strategic Missile Forces and the Navy exclusively by contract soldiers hi There will be enough space for conscripts and in other branches of the armed forces to "prokanut" for a year.

    And what are the contractors to do there? All important and difficult positions are officers, and conscripts are on hand. There are many units in the Strategic Missile Forces that do not require lengthy training.
  • Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 18 July 2013 14: 43 New
    +2
    Quote: seasoned
    I’m all the same for forming the Strategic Missile Forces and the Navy exclusively by contract soldiers hi There will be enough space for conscripts and in other branches of the armed forces to "prokanut" for a year.

    I fully support!
    We are not enough "Protons", it was still not enough for the Strategic Missile Forces to take from the fields.
    Or are the "buyers" in the military registration and enlistment offices now only gaining numbers?
    I think there should be taken at least after technical college, and even after college
    1. Fire
      Fire 18 July 2013 15: 29 New
      +6
      it is not enough to have a piece of paper with the inscription "diploma", the "correct" hands and head with the brain on the shoulders are extremely important ...
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 18 July 2013 15: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: feuer
        it is not enough to have a piece of paper with the inscription "diploma", the "correct" hands and head with the brain on the shoulders are extremely important ...


        until you personally "twist the nut" for a year or so, even if a well-deserved diploma, it's worth a penny.
    2. Quiet
      Quiet 18 July 2013 22: 57 New
      -4
      I fully support!
      We are not enough "Protons", it was still not enough for the Strategic Missile Forces to take from the fields.


      Dear !!! hi Buy Chinese pyrotechnics !!!! fool When the missiles run out, you will amuse our motorized infantry with fireworks !!!!! laughing
  • Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 18 July 2013 14: 47 New
    +4
    Quote: seller trucks

    But what about the Air Force, Airborne, and Air Defense, tank troops, and artillery is not the same now?

    Raise the level of education so that, as they say, "there was no shame for the years spent aimlessly"!
    1. seller trucks
      seller trucks 18 July 2013 15: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: Starover_Z
      Raise the level of education so that, as they say, "there was no shame in the years spent aimlessly"


      where does education come from? during the USSR, even naval Special Forces, not to mention other types of troops, was equipped with conscripts; they served 2 and 3 of the year.
    2. Quiet
      Quiet 18 July 2013 22: 59 New
      -3
      Raise the level of education so that, as they say, "there was no shame for the years spent aimlessly"!

      The Airborne Forces and Marines do not eat their reinforced soldering for free !!!! soldier
    3. Quiet
      Quiet 18 July 2013 23: 06 New
      -4
      Raise the level of education so that, as they say, "there was no shame for the years spent aimlessly"!

      Bullshit !!! Apparently the office vegetable decided to show off intelligence !!!!
    4. Quiet
      Quiet 18 July 2013 23: 42 New
      -1
      Raise the level of education so that, as they say, "there was no shame for the years spent aimlessly"!

      Give the motherland at least a year and then study ....
      1. experienced
        experienced 18 July 2013 23: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: Quiet
        Give the motherland at least a year and then study ....

        Thought is in full swing and at the same time on the head ... A strong aphorism, the war is in full swing waiting for my nickname under the skulls, otherwise as "the kid said, the kid did" ... winked
        1. Quiet
          Quiet 19 July 2013 00: 19 New
          -2
          The thought is in full swing and at the same time on the head ... A strong aphorism, the war is in full swing waiting for my nickname under the skulls, otherwise "the kid said, the kid did

          Change your avatar to "FUNNY ROGER"
  • Duelist
    Duelist 18 July 2013 14: 53 New
    +5
    I happened to serve in the Strategic Missile Forces in the 80s, there are plenty of soldiers' specialties there: drivers, technicians, combat crew specialists, security platoons and others. So the guys quite feel themselves to be defenders of the Motherland, on duty in the "combat readiness constantly" mode. Involvement in the country's "nuclear shield" makes the boys out of men, and their service is somewhat similar to the border service.
  • Duelist
    Duelist 18 July 2013 15: 01 New
    +1
    Actually, we are already talking about a contract army - it's a matter, but maintaining a professional one is EXPENSIVE and it is necessary to have reservists, this is especially important for our "rather big" country. Where to get reservists? - To call for conscript service, to train in DOSAAF ..., and for one thing and teach the boys the specialties necessary for the country.
  • vlbelugin
    vlbelugin 18 July 2013 15: 43 New
    +5
    I've already spoken. I will repeat myself. There is no sense from these "specialists" and will not be.
    At 2-year service - 5 months training - half a year of training in combat units - in the second year more or less special - last six months a specialist you can trust. And that was until 1989. When in my unit (PKP regiment) with secondary education they were mainly in the guard or mechanics - drivers. The remaining specialists are several courses of the institute, technical school.
    The blow struck the troops of Gorbachev. Fired all the students. Then it was tight. Soldiers without secondary education began to appear. The level of training has fallen.
  • redwar6
    redwar6 18 July 2013 15: 55 New
    +3
     I didn’t understand and I won’t understand why the service life is only one year. What can be done in a year? Give two years of the Armed Forces and 3 years of the Navy! And a year, this is not an army, a year this is so. In a year you can only get used to it.
     And I’m what it is for, they prepare you for 5 months, 7 you serve in the troops (let’s say), this is not enough.
    1. max702
      max702 18 July 2013 20: 29 New
      +2
      Oh, I don’t know, there is a familiar flight technician all his life served in the Air Force as a captain finished Duc, he spoke in half a year in part, he learned and learned more than in all the years at the school! You just need to teach sensibly and not do nonsense "from here to lunch" but teach really oh how expensive! and during the service for a year or two it makes no sense (Toko has already taught demobilization), so either professionals or to sweep something else is not given. Moreover, the pilot of the first class flew off the devil knows how much he went out for demobilization at 53, he said pride that he had a flight time after school for 42 hours! It's like a lot! By God, I'm surprised the trucker turns the steering wheel for 10-16 hours a day, the turner at the machine costs 8 hours a day and they do not become professional masters at once and far from everyone, but here it is 42 hours and the steering wheel is a machine that devil knows how fast it costs and this is the Air Force elite.
  • vadutc
    vadutc 18 July 2013 15: 57 New
    0
    Sory whats off topic

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTnzPB5eYDI


    who-thread watched this? interesting just the opinion of those who know)
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 18 July 2013 17: 11 New
      0
      Go...
    2. Misantrop
      Misantrop 19 July 2013 00: 29 New
      0
      IMHO bullshit from the very first frames. And if we consider that "ratings are disabled for this video" and "comments to this video are disabled", then even the authors of this dirty trick have no doubts that Alania TV company spat out libel ... request
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 19 July 2013 00: 39 New
        +1
        This is not an Ossetian company, a Georgian one. Mamuka Tatoshvili is driving her. Just mow under the Ossetians
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  • waisson
    waisson 18 July 2013 19: 41 New
    0
    what kind of cantractors where do you get so many of them if there are age restrictions on calling up for cantract, I could have gone but age and young people are too fast to overtake all the hardships of military service. You need to return the old service life of 2 and 3 years
    1. experienced
      experienced 18 July 2013 19: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: waisson
      what cantractors where do you get so many of them if there are age restrictions on the cantract appeal

      Pay normally depending on the WM and there are people. I assure a lot of soldiers and sergeants after the service that they want to continue their service for decent money, rather than returning home, where unemployment and no prospects hi
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 18 July 2013 20: 12 New
        +3
        For those normal who are now joining the conscription troops, and who I would like to leave, there are no problems with employment in the civilian world.
        These are not freshly baked lawyers and economists who cannot find a job "from $ 40 and do nothing"
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 18 July 2013 19: 43 New
    0
    Quote: seasoned
    I’m all the same for forming the Strategic Missile Forces and the Navy exclusively by contract soldiers hi There will be enough space for conscripts and in other branches of the armed forces to "prokanut" for a year.

    I'm also for ..! But here someone aptly said that they usually go after a fixed-term service under a contract .. You can graduate from military schools with honors, the Academy, but in the end you don’t feel like an officer with a capital letter .. Real officers are generals who are obtained from such lop-eared conscripts tasted all the hardships of a soldier's life .. This is my opinion. !!. And on a civilian the same ..
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 18 July 2013 20: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      it is from such lop-eared conscripts who have tasted all the hardships of a soldier's life ..

      Apparently you did not study at a military school.
      1. experienced
        experienced 18 July 2013 20: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: Spade
        Apparently you did not study at a military school.

        Lopatov and I constantly act as antagonists, but now I put "+". I myself entered the school after the 10th grade and saw how difficult it is for those who came from the troops to study ... In terms of "coaching" in the service, the cadets are in no way inferior to the soldiers, only they do not see "bullying", but in terms of gaining knowledge yesterday's schoolboy is much more capable of serving. IMHO
        Lopatov put "+", probably the bear in the den will die wassat
    2. max702
      max702 18 July 2013 20: 39 New
      0
      In general, I think an officer who has not served an urgent term is not an officer. and it’s time to introduce it legally that there can’t be an officer who hasn’t served an urgent term, then we’ll get rid of many problems at once, though after the term the percentage of people who want to will go down sharply ..
      1. experienced
        experienced 18 July 2013 20: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: max702
        In general, I think an officer who has not served an urgent term is not an officer. and it’s time to introduce it legally that there can’t be an officer who hasn’t served an urgent term, then we’ll get rid of many problems at once, though after the term the percentage of people who want to will go down sharply ..

        4-5 years old as a cadet in the barracks, how do they differ from 2 years earlier and 1 year now as conscript? The same guards, outfits and combat training, only more training (3 pairs daily - during the Soviet era) is added ... We have 2 people in the company who wrote to the army after a month of study report for deduction, they said better to the troops and demobilization than such a crap
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 18 July 2013 21: 00 New
          +3
          The school is tougher than the troops. There, unit commanders have an order of magnitude fewer duties, and therefore all the free time they spend on showing the cadets "1000 and one way for ... a soldier," and by their own example. So many things weren't. For example, a combatant after the lights out in the army - an emergency, and we often did this. "The Charter says that a serviceman should sleep no more than 8 hours, no one set the lower limit ..."
          1. experienced
            experienced 18 July 2013 21: 54 New
            +1
            And I strangled the second bear in the den wassat Damn, one to one thoughts ...
  • sashka
    sashka 18 July 2013 20: 58 New
    +1
    I do not like. 1 one year. What can be understood during this time? What you were like, you have remained that way .. A moron .. They didn’t teach you in school, the Army has no time. It's sad ..
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 18 July 2013 21: 14 New
    0
    Quote: Spade
    Quote: MIKHAN
    it is from such lop-eared conscripts who have tasted all the hardships of a soldier's life ..

    Apparently you did not study at a military school.

    I didn’t study. You’re right .. although the selection has passed .. I apologize I think I offended .. I’m not an expert in this, just an opinion ..
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 18 July 2013 21: 28 New
    -1
    Quote: seasoned
    Quote: Spade
    Apparently you did not study at a military school.

    Lopatov and I constantly act as antagonists, but now I put "+". I myself entered the school after the 10th grade and saw how difficult it is for those who came from the troops to study ... In terms of "coaching" in the service, the cadets are in no way inferior to the soldiers, only they do not see "bullying", but in terms of gaining knowledge yesterday's schoolboy is much more capable of serving. IMHO
    Lopatov put "+", probably the bear in the den will die wassat

    I then
    Quote: seasoned
    Quote: Spade
    Apparently you did not study at a military school.

    Lopatov and I constantly act as antagonists, but now I put "+". I myself entered the school after the 10th grade and saw how difficult it is for those who came from the troops to study ... In terms of "coaching" in the service, the cadets are in no way inferior to the soldiers, only they do not see "bullying", but in terms of gaining knowledge yesterday's schoolboy is much more capable of serving. IMHO
    Lopatov put "+", probably the bear in the den will die wassat

    I also put a plus for you too .. I’m wrong .. I confess lyapus .. I just remembered something .. gee gee .. Officers need to bring up allegiance to the homeland from childhood, and then knowledge .. We have a lot of orphans in Russia and Suvorov schools are few ..
    1. experienced
      experienced 18 July 2013 22: 02 New
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I also put a plus for you .. I’m not right .. I confess to a blunder.

      Come on, I don’t put any minuses, and Lopatov is also not a "quiet guy", but he (Lopatov) is a fighter - yesterday he fought off attacks. hi
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Just remembered something .. gee gee

      There were also enough "misunderstandings", but I watched them not from the conscripts, but from the position of a staff officer. Anything happened, but it was SA and everything was justified ...
      Quote: MIKHAN
      We have many orphans in Russia and there are few Suvorov schools ..

      Now the cadet corps have appeared and some kind of Cossack schools ... In the days of the USSR (yes, sorry for the frequent mention) there were cadet and Nakhimov schools after which without exams, but by distribution, graduates entered military universities and this was justified and necessary.
  • TS3sta3
    TS3sta3 18 July 2013 22: 06 New
    +2
    motivator.
  • okosl
    okosl 19 July 2013 13: 52 New
    0
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  • individual
    individual 19 July 2013 17: 36 New
    0
    The main properties of the Strategic Missile Forces as a type of armed forces are the ability to deliver high-precision nuclear strikes at virtually unlimited distance, to carry out a wide maneuver of nuclear missile strikes and deliver them simultaneously to all the most important strategic targets from their positions, to accomplish tasks in the shortest possible time and create favorable conditions other types of armed forces for conducting successful military operations.
  • waisson
    waisson 19 July 2013 19: 25 New
    0
    Caspian Flotilla conducted a guard duty exercise
    Yes, I drove down before I remember a day later on a belt the guard duty regulations flew off my teeth Yes, what kind of guard is this morning does not shine for us