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Snowden seeks political asylum in Russia

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After several days of talking about who Snowden is, where he is, and where he is going to leave, shy words began to appear in the press that Edward Snowden is generally a myth, a man who really does not exist. Such information has fueled the news that many bookmaker companies in the world accept bets on whether there is a real Snowden or Snowden - this is a notion of some special services. Things reached the point that computer games and slot machines began to appear on the Web. http://azartgames.net/9.html, in which the main characters were Edward Snowden and Anna Champan.
Conspiracy, bordering on show business, could go even further if Mr. Snowden himself did not appear in the Sheremetyevo transit zone, where he unexpectedly decided to hold a meeting with human rights activists. Snowden cannot leave the transit zone, and therefore the meeting took place exactly where the law allows the fugitive from the United States to do it.
An interesting fact is that some human rights activists with whom Snowden wished to meet, did not show up at the meeting itself. Among such “draft dodgers” can be called Inna Khadzhiyeva from the well-known organization Human Right Watch, as well as the lawyer Mr. Reznik. The first left her absence without comment, the second declared that he had important business at that moment.
Meanwhile, the airport was going something utter. Journalists literally attacked the air port in order to get hot information. And, it must be admitted, such information was obtained. It lies in the fact that Edward Snowden seeks political asylum in the Russian Federation. Anatoly Kucherena, commenting on Snowden’s request for political asylum in Russia, said that the petition could be granted within three months from the time it was filed. At the same time, Kucherena said that the petition itself had already been filed, and the migration service began work on it.
In addition to asking for political asylum in Russia, Edward Snowden asked human rights activists who arrived at the meeting to bring his words about violation of the letter of the Declaration of Human Rights to the American president. Obviously, the words of Snowden by Barack Obama will be heard without the mediation of human rights defenders.
Meanwhile, Russian lawyers have already identified the possibility of how Snowden can easily stay in Russia. As an option: the initiation of a criminal case against him.
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  1. Edward72
    Edward72 14 July 2013 07: 37
    -9
    But by and large do we need it ????
    1. svp67
      svp67 14 July 2013 08: 10
      47
      Quote: Edward72
      But by and large do we need it ????
      In this situation, of course, it would be better that he was not there, and so all the shocks are enough, but if he has appeared, then my opinion - we must accept it. The United States, with its arrogant attitude to the whole world, including to Russia, and most importantly to its citizens, leaves no choice. The next time the Americans plan to kidnap our citizen, with the aim of his "free" condemnation, they will think once again ... And besides, if now our leadership extradits him, then this will finally drop its authority, in the eyes of many countries who see us as a kind of counterbalance to America ...
      1. BARKAS
        BARKAS 14 July 2013 08: 40
        +6
        Snowden and even the United States are doing everything to make Russia accept the poor fellow, even against her desire that one can not expect more benefit or harm from him, but it is not clear to anyone while this is a test for our human rights defenders that they failed tightly!
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 14 July 2013 11: 12
        10
        Quote: svp67
        In this situation, of course it would be better if it weren’t, and


        “Edward Snowden has exceptional information and for many years the Russians will need him; he fled from America, taking with him several computers with interesting content. The question is whether he was preparing for this alone, or he was consulted in one of the foreign intelligence services, ”said Alexander Makovsky, a retired Polish intelligence colonel.
        Question: Putin says: “Snowden is sitting in the transit zone at Sheremetyevo Airport, our services have nothing to do with him, they don’t even talk to him.” Do you believe that?
        Answer:
        He's just mocking.
        Snowden knows the NSA system perfectly, and the Russians are developing this agency. Thanks to Snowden, they can carry out all kinds of hacker hacks to test the reaction of the Americans. Snowden has information about electronic updates, there are some things that need to be demonstrated. For several years, the Russians may need it. It is possible that they will give him a new identity and plastic surgery. Russia is huge. There is where to hide.
        1. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 14 July 2013 12: 50
          +5
          Quote: Vadivak
          - Alexander Makovsky, a retired colonel of Polish intelligence.


          Paid lackey NBA. Believe the statements of such a typo all the same, that the guano touch his hands.
          1. Semen Semyonitch
            Semen Semyonitch 14 July 2013 16: 05
            +9
            Quote: Geisenberg
            Quote: Vadivak
            - Alexander Makovsky, a retired colonel of Polish intelligence.


            Paid lackey NBA. Believe the statements of such a typo all the same, that the guano touch his hands.

            Probably the NSA? NBA is a basketball)))
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 14 July 2013 17: 09
              +4
              Quote: Semyon Semyonich
              Probably the NSA? NBA is a basketball))


              Letters left to swap
              1. ziqzaq
                ziqzaq 14 July 2013 18: 12
                +4
                Quote: Vadivak
                Letters left to swap

                Yeah and take the ball away ......
          2. Vadivak
            Vadivak 14 July 2013 17: 22
            +1
            Quote: Geisenberg
            Paid lackey NBA. Believe the statements of such a typo all the same, that the guano touch his hands.


            Do you know him in the NBA?
            1. experienced
              experienced 14 July 2013 17: 25
              +4
              Quote: Vadivak
              Do you know him in the NBA?

              He probably serves and owns official information in the BFS or UGR laughing
        2. nycsson
          nycsson 14 July 2013 17: 55
          +3
          Quote: Vadivak
          He's just mocking.

          I would not say so. Now is not a laughing matter ......
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 14 July 2013 20: 00
            +4
            Quote: nycsson
            I would not say so. Now is not a laughing matter


            I just quoted, before butturing, you need to understand Makovsky’s motivation as a scout and pros envy Rossi, and bites his elbows that the Polish government refused Snowden when he tried, for any scout Snowden is certainly interesting to say the least
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 14 July 2013 22: 33
              -1
              Quote: Vadivak
              I just quoted, before butting you need to understand the background

              I immediately understood what you quoted! But I was not going to hang out with you! What an aggressive you are today!
              Quote: Vadivak
              Makovsky, as a scout and pro, is envious of Russia, and bites his elbows that the Polish government refused Snowden when he tried, for any scout Snowden is certainly interesting to say the least

              Well yes! And how could they not refuse? They would be immediately turned into a ram’s horn!
              In general, I am of the opinion that this Snowden did not come to us on our initiative with all the consequences ....... hi
      3. Aryan
        Aryan 14 July 2013 21: 17
        -2
        I wish Russia exchanged it for Victor Bout
        Booth at least a man, but this one is not cool but a traitor
        see GDP because it does so, as he himself is an employee of the shield and sword
        and he is offended as a professional for such lawlessness in the profession

        but in fact, the desire to see that Asange2 was in store for last,
        when he is wrapped around the American stages and he presses that button
        what kind of genie will fly out of his mailbox? request recourse

        it’s a pity to the half-demon, it’s a lot to hang around in the airdrome - you can go with a roof
        I am 15 hours Domodedova fatil more than
    2. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 14 July 2013 08: 25
      14
      Quote: Edward72
      But by and large do we need it ????


      It is necessary, at least in order to show figington purely out of harm. It’s funny to watch the Surinamese monkey rampant in the oral office :)
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      2. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 14 July 2013 10: 12
        15
        Of course, Snowden must be taken. At least for the sake of the following carriers of American secrets to know that it is possible and necessary to flee to Russia.
        1. bulvas
          bulvas 14 July 2013 10: 20
          +1
          but the possibility of a reverse situation is also confirmed
        2. Arthur 775
          Arthur 775 14 July 2013 17: 39
          +2
          Would run better, scientists or inventors, and bankers with the same will not prevent. And you can a thief ala "Berezovskie" with stolen loot "cleared." GDP responded adequately.
        3. survivor
          survivor 15 July 2013 05: 52
          +1
          and the reverse process of emigration will begin))). then everyone was not happy going to America and Israel, and now, on the contrary, to Russia. well. to give him a house where the thread is in the middle lane, in an abandoned village, to give a couple of cows, a dozen, two rams, chickens, ducks and Anya to the wives. Let him live, raise agriculture .....
          The very fact of the move to Russia already says a lot. We then see the country, as if, from the inside and base our vision on our residence, but here, so to speak, a fresh look ....
          you just shouldn’t allow the village further ...
      3. nycsson
        nycsson 14 July 2013 17: 59
        +1
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        It is necessary, at least in order to show figington purely out of harm.

        Purely out of harm, they can show us that little will not seem. In economic terms.
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        It's funny to watch the Surinamese monkey rampant in the oral office :)

        Funnyness will decrease when they start pulling leverage .......
        1. Nick
          Nick 14 July 2013 22: 58
          0
          Quote: nycsson
          Purely out of harm, they can show us that little will not seem. In economic terms.

          Purely economically, we are no partners with the United States. Here with the European Union ...
    3. experienced
      experienced 14 July 2013 10: 26
      +3
      Quote: Edward72
      But by and large do we need it ????

      No, it is not needed, since Snowden's "played card" is a dummy. One show with a simultaneous appeal for political asylum to the leaders of 19 (I may be wrong) countries of different political orientations clearly speaks of his unpreparedness and not great intelligence. As a result of this demobilization, only Bolivia and Venezuela are now ready to accept it, into which it is unlikely to fly "without landing in the United States" ...
      Russia does not need him and Putin clearly said this, but all sorts of Kucheren will make PR companies their favorite. hi
      1. svp67
        svp67 14 July 2013 10: 32
        20
        Quote: seasoned
        No, not needed, since Snowden's "played card" is a dummy
        No, with skillful play he still has a lot to do. His only appeal to our human rights defenders is worth it, it immediately became clear who and how works. Who came, and who found "compelling" reasons not to come, and it became clear whose money and interests they are working out and protecting ... No, Snowden can still be very useful. He is not a rapist, not a murderer, just a man decided to live as he thinks is right - namely, according to democratic principles ...
        1. experienced
          experienced 14 July 2013 10: 39
          +5
          Quote: svp67
          No, with skillful play, he still has a lot to do.

          From the moment he "deserted", apart from the statement that the United States is watching its citizens and the leaders of other countries, as everyone has known for a long time, there have been no more revelations. In Hong Kong, Chinese "specialists" worked with him and apparently realized that this was either a "dummy" that wanted fame, or a "thrown joker", and therefore he was quietly released to Moscow. In Moscow, they also "talked" with him and concluded that he was not needed in Russia. Everything that can be squeezed out of him, and now this "irritant" is not needed by anyone.
          If he had some other "hot infa", he would have dumped it in dosage before applying for political asylum, according to the principle: To sell a product at a higher price, it must be advertised.
          1. svp67
            svp67 14 July 2013 10: 46
            10
            Quote: seasoned
            Everything that can be squeezed out of him, and now this "irritant" is not needed by anyone.

            If he was not needed, he would have got on a plane flying to South America and would have already been arrested in Vienna ... and so, he is still at Sheremetyevo, and the whole world sees how the United States and its allies relate to democracy and international laws. There is no doubt that they are "-3". This guy himself does not decide anything, his "figure" is "played" by others ... The United States has been "spitting into this well" for a long time, and now it's time for her to "get drunk out of it .."
          2. regsSSSR
            regsSSSR 14 July 2013 18: 22
            +3
            Quote: seasoned
            Quote: svp67
            No, with skillful play, he still has a lot to do.

            From the moment he "deserted", apart from the statement that the United States is watching its citizens and the leaders of other countries, as everyone has known for a long time, there have been no more revelations. In Hong Kong, Chinese "specialists" worked with him and apparently realized that this was either a "dummy" that wanted fame, or a "thrown joker", and therefore he was quietly released to Moscow. In Moscow, they also "talked" with him and concluded that he was not needed in Russia. Everything that can be squeezed out of him, and now this "irritant" is not needed by anyone.
            If he had some other "hot infa", he would have dumped it in dosage before applying for political asylum, according to the principle: To sell a product at a higher price, it must be advertised.


            just slow down and search halfway aboard number 1, regardless of all the consequences and clearly affecting the minus rating of NATO countries on the world stage, it means Amers really need it! and since they really need him, it means that we’ll definitely fit for something hiand we must assume that a lot we can and don’t know in these behind-the-scenes wars!
          3. Ustian
            Ustian 15 July 2013 10: 43
            +1
            Quote: seasoned
            If he had some other "hot infa", he would have dumped it in dosage before applying for political asylum, according to the principle: To sell a product at a higher price, it must be advertised.

            It is quite possible - "Infa" is, and he shares it, only with the special services, and not with the press. And the experts know what information to give to society, and how to work themselves. As for the statement of Vladimir Putin about the inadmissibility of causing harm to the United States by Snowden- can be interpreted as a game for the audience, first of all a p.u.n.s.
        2. AVV
          AVV 14 July 2013 11: 21
          +3
          It can come in handy as a carrier of certain information! And in order to painfully click the States on the nose, let them twitch longer, then they have something to hide! Snowden should be amerikozi guard and indulge, if something happens to him, then the information that is voiced, so they are afraid that the states will pour out a slop bucket on them, and Wikileaks will help in this !!!
        3. aksakal
          aksakal 14 July 2013 16: 08
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          Who came and who found "good" reasons not to come, and it became clear whose money and interests they are working out and protecting ..

          - here already Snowden and fit. Here I agree with you, it is immediately clear who is really a human rights activist, and who, under the guise of "human rights activities", is harshly pursuing the interests of Americans in Russia. Among such “deviators”, one can name Inna Khadzhieva from the well-known organization Human Right Watch, as well as lawyer Mr. Reznik. The first left her failure to appear without comment, the second said that he had important things at that moment. - that’s clear. Plus, Alekseeva, who wasn’t just coming, clearly called Snowden a traitor and condemned him. From now on, the human rights rhetoric of these gentlemen should simply be ridiculed, they are not human rights defenders
          1. survivor
            survivor 15 July 2013 05: 59
            +1
            completely "for"))) just like that. not ours advised him to take this step. but what? two birds with one stone to wipe America's nose, and to show its own people who is who in the Russian state. After all, many of these human rights defenders were praised. If this were not so, then they would not exist.
          2. engineer5
            engineer5 15 July 2013 07: 49
            0
            I completely agree with Aksakal. Our human rights activists are not working for an idea.
      2. Gooch
        Gooch 14 July 2013 10: 41
        +1
        Quote: seasoned
        No, not needed, since Snowden's "played card" is a dummy.

        Needed, even as needed, who then will Chapman satisfy, if not him
      3. seller trucks
        seller trucks 14 July 2013 11: 02
        +8
        Quote: seasoned
        No, not needed, since Snowden's "played card" is a dummy.


        you shouldn't be like that, it can serve as a good example, for other "dissenting", and we need secrets, and secondly, as many wrote above, wave a "bolt" in front of the brazen face of the United States, at least in order to demonstrate their political ambitions.
        1. 755962
          755962 14 July 2013 11: 31
          +2
          Snowden could become a pawn in a political game
          Russia has already made it clear that the United States does not have a decree for it, said political analyst Sergei Mikheev: “Russia, in principle, can also provide asylum, although it seeks temporary asylum (this is a matter of legal status). But Putin unequivocally said that Russia would not extradite anyone. I do not think that Putin, after talking with Obama, is ready to take his words back. That would be, to put it mildly, a failure. And since they will not issue him, then what difference does it make in what capacity he will be on the territory of Russia - as a transit passenger or as an asylum seeker. What can the USA do for us? Almost nothing".


          Asylum was granted to Snowden due to conditions that were unacceptable to him. It was used as a counterweight in connection with the possible expansion of the so-called “Magnitsky list”. Snowden will not remain in Russia. In fact, this is just a political game. With a knowingly zero result.


          http://www.bfm.ru/news/222210?doctype=article
      4. nycsson
        nycsson 14 July 2013 18: 02
        +1
        Quote: seasoned
        No, not needed, since Snowden's "played card" is a dummy.

        The game is just starting..........
    4. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 14 July 2013 12: 48
      +2
      Quote: Edward72
      But by and large do we need it ????


      We have an Orthodox country, in the tradition of the poor to protect. Moreover, the guy agreed to the terms ...
    5. bomg.77
      bomg.77 14 July 2013 12: 51
      +5
      Quote: Edward72
      But by and large do we need it ????
      In those three months, while they are filling out documents for entering Snowden, America will abort and make mistakes as a result, at the end of a three-month period, all European liberals and human rights activists will ask Putin to hide Snowden in Russia. Something I think will happen, and you yourself Think we need him. hi
    6. Cynic
      Cynic 14 July 2013 17: 04
      +1
      Quote: Edward72
      do we need him ????

      Hearing this in the news, I realized the game entered the endgame! I think GDP reduces everything to a stalemate.
      Minor gentlemen, think about it. _ Why did they actually land the plane of the President of Bolivia?
      And then perhaps, to show that Snowden from Russia can’t get anywhere! They put the presidential flight, but there’s nothing to say to the passenger!
      So NAFIK, NAFIK give us such presents from Uncle Sam.
      1. poquello
        poquello 14 July 2013 17: 24
        +4
        "So NAFIK, NAFIK we have such gifts from Uncle Sam."
        And what exactly is the problem?
      2. nycsson
        nycsson 14 July 2013 18: 06
        +1
        Quote: Cynic
        And then perhaps, to show that Snowden from Russia can’t get anywhere!

        And you did not think about the question, why from Russia? Why did he fly to Russia so easily?
        Quote: Cynic
        They put the presidential flight, but there’s nothing to say to the passenger!

        If US intelligence needed it on its territory, they would get it out of the ground in Hong Kong, and the US needed it on Russian territory. What for? That is the question!
    7. skeptic
      skeptic 14 July 2013 18: 16
      +1
      Quote: Edward72
      But by and large do we need it ????


      By and large, no. Moreover, his strange voyage with the appearance in Russia. It is too similar to the "Trojan horse" of the US intelligence services to shift relations between countries towards the cold.
      In times of crisis, this is a great way to charge defense industry companies and related structures with orders.

      PS Considering the impudence of the CIA, the enormous "value" of the former agent - why did he end up in Russia safe and sound? Strange request
    8. starshina78
      starshina78 14 July 2013 18: 46
      +2
      Undoubtedly needed! And, for sure, his decision to seek political asylum, if not agreed upon, is certain that the relevant Russian special services knew about his request in advance. Maybe on the contrary he didn’t agree to stay with us for a long time because the special services offered cooperation in a certain area in which he worked in the States? Everything can be. We can only speculate and think out, but as a matter of fact it is a mystery (for us).
      1. Anti
        Anti 14 July 2013 19: 26
        +1
        I would like to once again, with my attention to the fact that the fugitive leaked information about the recruitment of the Swiss CIA banker, the Guardian, I think this is not an isolated case. They probably have at their disposal accounts of a huge number of investors from all over the world and about their financial operations (a powerful tool of pressure, influence on the elite of these countries), mainly these are people in and around the highest echelons of power. We keep our pennies under the mattress. A strong blow was also dealt to the banking system, especially the Swiss one. So, a comrade from the USA has not played his role to the end, there will still be a drain of his info through Wikileaks or the Guardian. Only who benefits from this is a big question.

        1. Anti
          Anti 14 July 2013 19: 44
          0
          I'm gry, stop eating valerian. Justify your minus lol
          1. experienced
            experienced 14 July 2013 19: 46
            +2
            Quote: Anti
            I'm gry, stop eating valerian. Justify your minus

            It's like in that joke about Yahweh and Moisha: "Well, I don't like you!" lol
            Well, valerian is not our method laughing
            1. Anti
              Anti 14 July 2013 19: 49
              +1
              By the way, you too. I even hate thee more than my mother-in-law, but in a strange way I’m glad when I appear. As you bring life to the branches on the site .............. lol
              1. experienced
                experienced 14 July 2013 19: 51
                +3
                Quote: Anti
                By the way, you too. I even hate thee

                lol
                Quote: Anti
                .but anyway ................

                wassat
                1. Anti
                  Anti 14 July 2013 20: 25
                  0
                  Quote: seasoned
                  Quote: Anti
                  By the way, you too. I even hate thee


                  I will never forgive those of this, because of the cha, I began to hate before that, the cats I adore, change your avatar lol
                  1. experienced
                    experienced 14 July 2013 20: 27
                    +2
                    Quote: Anti
                    I don’t forgive those, because of the cha, I began to hate cats that I adore so much

                    Well, at least here I achieved my goal. I'm a dog lover, shar pei at home laughing So if you are going to exterminate German cats with your Audi wheels (ala modern Sharikov), I will only be happy wassat
                    1. Anti
                      Anti 14 July 2013 20: 35
                      0
                      But I have a boxer, I’ll never persecute him for cats. He’s a bastard, wassat
    9. cdrt
      cdrt 14 July 2013 19: 46
      +1
      Well, the states then troll forever cool wink
      Moreover, their administration is now in zugzwang - any action will only worsen the situation.
      Although of course it will worsen relations with the US, which is not good
    10. Vovka levka
      Vovka levka 15 July 2013 08: 54
      -1
      Quote: Edward72
      But by and large do we need it ????

      As for me, he has been working for someone for a long time. They just decided that now we need PR. And the result has long been predictable.
      1. ultra
        ultra 15 July 2013 10: 06
        0
        Quote: Vovka Levka
        works for anyone.

        Talk in riddles! Who works for?
    11. ultra
      ultra 15 July 2013 10: 05
      0
      Quote: Edward72
      But by and large do we need it ????

      IMHO, definitely YES! But neither the United States nor the little shavers are wondering if they need all this from Russia, which they sheltered!
  2. Humpty
    Humpty 14 July 2013 07: 46
    +6
    It seems that Snowden is an idealist trying to make the world a cleaner place. He would have addressed the Kovalev with a paddy.
    You can not give it to the clutches of its former owners, for their dissent they have taken nails to a tree.
    1. GHG
      GHG 14 July 2013 07: 51
      +5
      If Assange were to be condemned now, then I think there would be no Snowden now.
      1. RA77
        RA77 14 July 2013 08: 53
        +1
        I do not see the connection! Why would it not be him?
      2. cdrt
        cdrt 14 July 2013 19: 55
        0
        So well done Ecuadorians !!!
  3. GHG
    GHG 14 July 2013 07: 48
    +2
    They gave us a lot of people? The question is what will we gain and what will we lose if we grant or grant half a shelter, or maybe let us go back to his voyage. We need to weigh everything and make a firm decision, although you can darken it for another six months.
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 14 July 2013 08: 05
      +6
      Quote: GES
      They gave us a lot of people? The question is what will we gain and what will we lose if we grant or grant half a shelter, or maybe let us go back to his voyage. We need to weigh everything and make a firm decision, although you can darken it for another six months.


      That's just the point, if a person (quite normal) is in trouble and asks for help, then it is beneficial to argue in the spirit - it is unprofitable and there is Pharisaism.
      1. RA77
        RA77 14 July 2013 08: 57
        +4
        Quote: Humpty
        That's just the point, if a person (quite normal) is in trouble and asks for help, then it is beneficial to argue in the spirit - it is unprofitable and there is Pharisaism.

        Shake your hand. It is necessary to provide him with asylum, and ASAP (as soon as possible)
      2. Andrey_K
        Andrey_K 14 July 2013 13: 38
        +8
        to argue in the spirit of profitable - unprofitable is Pharisaism

        Absolutely.
        In this regard, I want to recall a similar situation that happened with the great American chess player Fisher.
        How much Fisher did for America is difficult to convey, if not for him, then in chess America would have to look like a country of morons in comparison with the country of geniuses - the USSR.
        (even Cuba had its own chess champion).
        And this "American pride and celebrity" suddenly had a heightened sense of justice - he played a chess game in Yugoslavia and publicly condemned the bombing of Yugoslavia.
        And then the Americans did the same trick as with Snowden - they canceled his passport, and Japan took and arrested Fischer, on a criminal offense - entering the country with a "fake" passport.
        And this is when almost the whole world asked him to let go!
        The Japanese showed in all their glory their lackey essence.
        Fisher spent 8 months in a Japanese prison, was deported, and died in poverty (the Americans took all his savings from him).
        History, as you know, likes to repeat itself - once in the form of tragedy - the second time in the form of farce.
        And in order not to become like the Japanese who have lost their face, Russia certainly needs to accept it (well, and history, at the same time, repeat itself in the form of a farce).
      3. GHG
        GHG 14 July 2013 17: 12
        +1
        Listen ... he’s not even a citizen of Russia. Why, if he is granted asylum, and as a result of retaliatory actions, can our citizens be stoned? We are already head over heels in the care of our diplomatic missions about Russian citizens who are outside the country in the role of disenfranchised people. I think that as soon as the scandal is settled, it will quickly dump quietly ... remember the name. And the scandal is still hushed up because it he will never tell you everything ... as a typical representative of Western society, I think he left something more serious for his safety net, he will make contact with representatives of the US state administration.
        1. Andrey_K
          Andrey_K 14 July 2013 21: 11
          0
          This is karma - in the sense, the education and maintenance of national identity, spirit.
          But this spirit says that if a person is not a murderer, then he always needs help if he asks.
          Deny help - give up on yourself.
          It is these events that most of all affect the formation of consciousness - after them everyone will follow the pattern: either also help a neighbor, or tremble and fear "consequences".
      4. cdrt
        cdrt 14 July 2013 19: 58
        0
        Man is not in trouble, but is responsible for his actions. His actions, his life. He decided everything. In addition, if he falls into the farts of the Americans and, apparently, forever sits down - the impact on the image will be maximum. Cynically, but the martyrs are also helpful.
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 14 July 2013 17: 16
      +1
      Quote: GES
      They gave us a lot of people?

      Well, we wanted it in accordance with the law, but there is no and no extradition agreement!
      Immediately asked to give as a friend!
      good
  4. Gooch
    Gooch 14 July 2013 08: 02
    +8
    Urgently give him the title of Honorary Mordvin, a Russian passport and an apartment in Grozny.
  5. mirag2
    mirag2 14 July 2013 08: 12
    0
    I think so:
    As a political immigrant, a fighter for human rights and a truth-teller, he didn’t bother us (especially since he is asking for asylum from us because he has no choice), for this will complicate relations with the States, and now, after Serdyukov's army has not yet been restored, it is still not in time. And I think that everyone on the Internet was grazing after everyone. Even I, far from intelligence, understood this. So he did not discover America here. Another thing is he is the bearer of knowledge about the products themselves working to intercept information, isolating the necessary from a HUGE data stream, and obviously generating reports (these should be programs like an "e-writer") - this is all we need. But again, the question is what state of our "cyber troops"? If in embryonic, then yes, it is necessary, but it may be that they are at the level. Then we already have all this data. I fully admit it. And then Snowden again did not rest against us.
    That is, logically thinking, and guided by mercantile interests, he probably didn’t rest against us than needed to support the international image. Let RT support the image, especially since it does not work out badly.
    1. RA77
      RA77 14 July 2013 09: 20
      +7
      Quote: mirag2
      I think so:

      Quote: mirag2
      That is, logically thinking

      Do you state your point of view or reason logically?

      Quote: mirag2
      he didn’t rest against us (all the more so because it is with us that he seeks asylum because he has no choice), because this will complicate relations with the United States

      He asks for temporary refuge with us. But Barack Obama said earlier that he was not going to spoil relations with Russia because of Snowden.

      Quote: mirag2
      And I think that everybody knew that everyone was grazing on the Internet for everyone. Even I, I’m far from intelligence, I understood that

      Did not know! Otherwise, the FSO would not hastily switch to typewriters. And the fact that someone had guessed for something - at all, it does not matter at all. You can guess anything, build conspiracy theories. However, everyone needs only facts. And Snowden provided these facts by naming specific companies and showing the full extent of the surveillance.

      Quote: mirag2
      Another thing is he is a bearer of knowledge about the products themselves that work to intercept information, isolate the necessary from a HUGE data stream, and obviously generate reports (these should be programs like an "e-writer") - that's all we need

      This is just what we do not need! Moreover, he is not a developer, but an administrator. What do you think, having access to the Gmail database, how difficult is it to get what you need from there? This is not such a difficult task as a whole. Especially for our specialists.

      Quote: mirag2
      Let RT support the image, especially since it does not go badly.

      If Snowden is denied temporary asylum, this will significantly tarnish Russia's image and RT will not be able to fix it.
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 14 July 2013 16: 58
        -1
        a) my point of view is built using my logic.
        b) Barack Obama says one thing and does another.
        c) that on the Internet, they knew, even that year the Duma members, or the Federation Council banned the use of tablets, and "Kaspersky" developed a protected OS for Russia.
        d) there are different ways to get access to the gmail-task database for students (on the network). You can’t find real hacks for reconnaissance on the network. We need this.
        e) if you refuse to grant Snowden a shelter — in the eyes of whom will this impede the image of Russia? In the eyes of the audience, CNN is the other way around, and the friction we have with this audience is not worth aggravating — these are not toys — we will crush you with tanks! policy.
        1. RA77
          RA77 14 July 2013 19: 09
          +2
          a) clear, understandable
          b) who should say that you would accept this?) The USA is actually unprofitable to seriously spoil relations with Russia because of Snowden. Russia is not Ecuador.
          c) does the FSO example tell you anything?
          d) you apparently did not understand what I mean. Thanks to Snowden, it became known that the NSA has direct permanent access to google databases. First of all, gmail is meant, of course. And here everything is completely clear how they get the data from there. This is unlikely to be of any interest to ours. And the fact that access to the gmail database is a task for the student is you bent. If you think otherwise, then educate pozhalsta in this matter. With links, preferably. And then for example, I think that this is a very difficult task.
          e) yes in the eyes of any adequate person who follows what is happening. Nevertheless, they understand that the United States is putting pressure on any country that decides to grant asylum to Snowden. China didn’t want to get involved. If Russia is bold, then it will be considered a new pole of power with which the definition will be associated. hopes, otherwise it will become clear to everyone who is in charge. This is the moment of truth, one might say. Either show yourself, or stand in a row with France, Italy and so on. adjoining.
          1. cdrt
            cdrt 14 July 2013 20: 06
            0
            But do we need it - so that we are considered the pole of power? With allies such as the DPRK, Iran, Venezuela (where at one time the Chavez clown shifted time by 0.5 (!!!!) hours, if only not in the states ???
            It seems like our interests with those of the USA contradict only in Ukraine and Middle Asia. Global confrontation is invented only by some who, due to mental weakness and the need to search for the enemy, who justify the infusion into the military-industrial complex / army ...
            1. RA77
              RA77 14 July 2013 21: 39
              0
              But do we need it - so that we are considered the pole of power? With allies such as the DPRK, Iran, Venezuela (where at one time the Chavez clown shifted time by 0.5 (!!!!) hours, if only not in the states ???
              It seems like our interests with those of the USA contradict only in Ukraine and Middle Asia. Global confrontation is invented only by some who, due to mental weakness and the need to search for the enemy, who justify the infusion into the military-industrial complex / army ...


              Well, about the pole of power, opinions here may be different. For example, I believe that definitely yes.
              Carry out such an experiment. On nectar. time imagine you are the president of the USA. This is in order to look from the side and think big. Imagine, Feel. Now open https://maps.google.com For clarity, let's take Japan. Look at this country. Now look at Russia. How awesome she is. So the population of all of Russia is approximately comparable to the population of Japan! And this handful of people controls this colossal territory O_O And this is not some Greenland, always chained in ice, but the best lands, where the entire periodic table. Your country needs oil and it is here. You rely on shale oil in the future, but again it turns out that its largest reserves in Russia (((
              Now tell me, would you like to somehow gain control of this territory? That sincerely? Of course. Moreover, any possible ways to achieve this. And therefore, Russia must be strong. Otherwise, it will simply be torn to pieces. You cannot be an average person among countries and control the largest territory in the world.
              I see the situation like that.

              And about Chavez, I do not agree with you. Of course there is a definition. share of populism, there are some possible errors. But he is a man.
        2. cdrt
          cdrt 14 July 2013 20: 02
          0
          D) - and why are you so sure? Not even that. You can get access. Difficult, but possible. But on the fig - in the technical sense. Probably 5-6 countries in the world are capable of filtering and processing such volumes of information, and with far from 100% results
    2. poquello
      poquello 14 July 2013 13: 57
      +2
      "That is, having thought logically, and guided by mercantile interests, he rather did not resist to us than is needed to support the international image. Let RT support the image, especially since it does not go badly."

      N yes "something I don't see one-eyed among you"
      Gentlemen of pragmatism, what will the refusal of Snowden's support give us?
      Friendship with the USA? - She was not in the sweetest time for Westerners Yeltsin. It was we who thought that friendship, and they continued to ruin and weaken us.
  6. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 14 July 2013 08: 20
    +1
    This muddy Snowden is somehow ...
    1. Edward72
      Edward72 14 July 2013 09: 21
      -3
      I agree with you, stink a lot, but the point is netuti
    2. poquello
      poquello 14 July 2013 14: 02
      +4
      "This Snowden is somehow muddy ..."

      Than? People oppose the immoral world order.

      "The text of Edward Snowden's statement to human rights organizations reads:" My name is Ed Snowden. About a month ago I had a family, a home in heaven, I lived in comfort. I also had permission to search, intercept and read your messages. Whoever and when It is the power to change human destinies.

      This is also a serious violation of the law. The fourth and fifth amendments to the constitution of my country, article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, many legal acts and treaties prohibit such systems of mass omnipresent surveillance. While the US constitution considers these programs illegal, my government claims that secret court orders that the world cannot see can somehow legalize illegal activities. These court decisions simply destroy the basic principle of justice - it must be public. Immoral cannot become moral through a secret law.

      I believe in the principles announced in 1945 at Nuremberg: “Individuals have international obligations that exceed the national duty of obedience imposed by an individual state. Therefore, individual citizens must violate national law in order to prevent the violation of the law against peace and humanity. "
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 14 July 2013 20: 10
        0
        Hmm ... we are listening by the law :-)
        Well, or for the purposes of raiders :-)))
        It is clear that we are opponents of the United States, that they are not averse to trolling. But what will he give us?
        1. poquello
          poquello 14 July 2013 23: 11
          +1
          "Hmm ... we have wiretapping according to the law :-)
          Well, or for the purposes of raiders :-)))
          It is clear that we are opponents of the United States, that we would not mind trolling them. But what will he give us? "

          And they also monitor and carry out other actions in the framework of investigations, but there is no global surveillance. I do not think that in the USA there is no law permitting the same actions as ours. The global control in the FSB is organized according to other principles and, in general, gets along with the law.
          We are not opponents of the United States - we are neighbors on the planet. He may not give us anything, and our support will give Russia the world as a country where human values ​​have a place to be.


          "... If you have any questions, I am ready to answer those that I can. Thank you."
          so Snowden's letter ends.
  7. Canep
    Canep 14 July 2013 08: 28
    +2
    Meanwhile, Russian lawyers have already identified the possibility of how Snowden can easily stay in Russia. As an option: the initiation of a criminal case against him.

    If this is done, then the Americans themselves will start shouting about human rights violations and political persecution.
  8. Kopvin
    Kopvin 14 July 2013 08: 52
    0
    I think we need him, this Snowden, at least in order to show the whole world how from the "democratic" USA people are asking for polit. asylum in "not democratic" Russia. And all these shouts and threats from the United States will remain an empty phrase. They did us much more harm than we did to them, and so they spoiled their image and sycophants from Geyrop ;-)
  9. 123_123
    123_123 14 July 2013 09: 12
    +2
    You can, of course, exchange Snowden for someone, Booth, for example, or for something else, for concessions regarding Syria. But here there will be reputational losses and no one else will run to Russia, and so, perhaps, this is a new trend - to seek refuge in Russia from American world hegemony ... you see, someone else useful will come running.
  10. Siberian
    Siberian 14 July 2013 09: 16
    +1
    There is too much talk about this spy master.
    1. Norady
      Norady 14 July 2013 09: 36
      0
      that's just the point, if it was actually a fighter against the usa, he would have long ago quietly surrendered to our counterintelligence and engaged in his "struggle"
      and so this is another talking head by type of assange

      I recommend reading this analysis: http://www.inoforum.ru/inostrannaya_pressa/snouden_assanzh_menning/
      even if you don’t agree with everything, anyway, the picture as a whole becomes more clear.

      Considering how persistently Snowden began to beg for us, doing this as publicly as possible, we can understand that for us he is an open setup
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 14 July 2013 20: 13
        0
        He is not a fighter against the United States, he is a fighter for the United States in the understanding of the founding fathers. Cooperation with the special services of the opponent’s country is a betrayal.
        For Americans (I'm talking about ordinary people), the concepts of good and evil are very absolute for many, and not relative like ours (most are really educated in the Christian spirit).
  11. Siberian
    Siberian 14 July 2013 10: 00
    +1
    Considering how persistently Snowden began to beg for us, doing this as publicly as possible, we can understand that for us he is an open setup
    Or maybe they’re just trying to check for lice?
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 14 July 2013 20: 14
      0
      What's the point? Check, lousy - and what?
      Could do something - would have done before
  12. Metlik
    Metlik 14 July 2013 10: 08
    +2
    The worse the reputation of the United States, the less likely it is to be able to create a coalition to invade Syria. Snowden appeared very on time. Congratulations to our special services on this success.
  13. stranik72
    stranik72 14 July 2013 10: 29
    +6
    There are two interesting points, Snowden is an active CIA agent and he knows a thing or two. And now remember the last time their agent left the states, our Russians are full, right up to the head of the department on state issues. I think that they have other dissatisfied people, and maybe they are ready to "leave", including to us. And Snowden is a very serious test for us, intelligence is a war, and there all methods are good, and deserters must be accepted. Well, the second point, if we accept we will have some problems, but without this we are unlikely to be called a sovereign power, we need to go through this.
  14. Master Taiga
    Master Taiga 14 July 2013 10: 39
    +7
    Snowden is much more useful than any Depardieu. He is a talented IT specialist. Carrier of secrets. Yes, and just WHITE. In addition, many Americans gave us whom? Buta for example. TIME TO PAY THE SAME COIN so that they know that you should not wipe your feet on Russia ... How it comes around ...
  15. Combitor
    Combitor 14 July 2013 11: 20
    -3
    Special services exist to receive information by any available means. You might think our specialists do not listen to us. No need to make a hero and an idol from Snowden. Traitor, nothing more. I do not know how it is now, but at one time many of these also escaped from the USSR. After the Western intelligence services squeezed all the juices out of them, who needs them? Even ours do not give a damn about them and do not send killers to bang. They live as they can and trade than they can. Many like Suvorov's literary junk?
    Does Russia need Snowden? I am not in the sense that it can spoil our relations with America. It's just that Snowden worked in the special services for as long as he needed it. Did he not know about wiretapping earlier and could not show his consciousness earlier? He knew and could, but did not want to. And now, suddenly, his conscience woke up and he decided to tell the world that the US special services are engaged in wiretapping. Yes, all special services since the time they invented the radio, telephone and telegraph, use these communications to collect information. Something is wrong with this whole Snowden story. Apparently, in his previous service, he made some significant "joint", and therefore decided to "make legs", at the same time taking secret information with him. With such "baggage" any country will accept it. And "light" who needs it?
    And it is also possible that Snowden is a multi-way spy game by US intelligence agencies for the completely safe and legal introduction of an agent in another country.
    Although Russia is no stranger to this. Chubais, under the guidance of instructors from the CIA, "did so much for the country" that the All-Russian Fuhrer was pleased with him.
    1. Master Taiga
      Master Taiga 14 July 2013 11: 31
      +6
      It's just that if Snowden is sheltered, then the next time they will run to us. And if we surrender again, we will suck a paw. And it’s not even Snowden.
  16. dimon_l
    dimon_l 14 July 2013 11: 29
    0
    why the CIA hasn’t physically eliminated it in Hong Kong yet. or their hands are short or Snowden setup
    1. Master Taiga
      Master Taiga 14 July 2013 12: 00
      +1
      Do not overestimate the omnipotence of the CIA.
      1. Skipper
        Skipper 14 July 2013 12: 54
        +2
        Quote: Taiga Master
        Do not overestimate the omnipotence of the CIA.


        And it says the person who writes every new message under a new flag soldier
        smile Plus you, I also believe in it smile
  17. omsbon
    omsbon 14 July 2013 11: 39
    +5
    An interesting fact is that some of the human rights defenders with whom Snowden wanted to meet did not appear at the meeting. Among such “deviators”, one can name Inna Khadzhieva from the well-known organization Human Right Watch, as well as lawyer Mr. Reznik.

    Ha ha ha These gentlemen do not want to lose the State Department money! And the rest of the home-grown defenders of Labor are the same with y and!
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 14 July 2013 11: 55
      +2
      Quote: omsbon
      An interesting fact is that some of the human rights defenders with whom Snowden wanted to meet did not appear at the meeting. Among such “deviators”, one can name Inna Khadzhieva from the well-known organization Human Right Watch, as well as lawyer Mr. Reznik.

      Ha ha ha These gentlemen do not want to lose the State Department money! And the rest of the home-grown defenders of Labor are the same with y and!

      gee gee it's certainly all sad as silent as ever ... bully
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  18. Max otto
    Max otto 14 July 2013 12: 23
    +1
    All these human rights organizations are created and operate with the money of the intelligence services of the USA, England and others like them. Otherwise, what a fright for lawyers in their country to get involved with their power? This is sometimes dangerous, but if behind the CIA, then you can get some fun. And the fact that some did not come to the meeting was a puncture in full, lack of professionalism, so to speak.
    But Snowden needs to be given Watered. asylum, if only because the states have never betrayed anyone to Russia.
  19. Smersh
    Smersh 14 July 2013 12: 39
    +1
    Snowdent is a good tool for pressure on the USA
  20. romuchik
    romuchik 14 July 2013 12: 41
    +2
    We simply can’t give it away without prejudice to ourselves. As soon as we give it back we will become sixes of the USA. So, although this is not the best way, it will have to be left in Russia.
  21. not good
    not good 14 July 2013 12: 46
    +1
    If Snowden needed to be rescued, he would be brought quietly and he would have been Russian Snegov. In this situation, he is a good anti-advertisement to the states and if Russia accepts it, it’s an advertisement for Russian democracy. Again, an extra way to kick America, like asking to return Bout.
  22. Irtysh
    Irtysh 14 July 2013 13: 44
    +3
    Snowden is a litmus test in the hands of professionals. He exposed SO MUCH nuances, such as relations with "partners" from Europe, human rights activists, the Obama administration, friends from Latin America, etc.

    Look how the Americans spun, for good reason, however. Austria, France, Spain and Portugal have merged, bedding is cheap .... They will have to make excuses for a long time.

    Our human rights defenders as framed, two-faced hari.

    Snowden is beautiful !!!!!

    Obama is a miserable beggar. It became clear to everyone that America was no longer a cake. All that's left is to bend your fingers in powerlessness.

    He alone is worth all of our traitors and defectors. And also this is our answer for the scandals with Chapman and others. Eye for eye.

    On this wave, Bout will be remembered. Oh, a lot of it will raise ours, a lot.
  23. faraon
    faraon 14 July 2013 13: 58
    0
    Quote: Humpty
    It seems that Snowden is an idealist trying to make the world a cleaner place. He would have addressed the Kovalev with a paddy.
    You can not give it to the clutches of its former owners, for their dissent they have taken nails to a tree.

    Yes, he’s not an ideolist, he’s only yap. In every state there are closed topics for discussion, Snowden tried to open them up, that it all came out of it. He turned out to be no use and a long time ago played card that in Russia there are no specialists in cooler than Snowden will never believe that what this fugitive said something new I will not believe.
    And the fact that in the States he is waiting for a term and in Russia the fugitives do not favor him.
    My opinion what for this hemorrhoid of Russia
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 14 July 2013 20: 17
      0
      And what else can be the view from Israel :-))))
  24. RDS-1
    RDS-1 14 July 2013 14: 00
    +3
    Quote: omsbon
    An interesting fact is that some of the human rights defenders with whom Snowden wanted to meet did not appear at the meeting. Among such “deviators”, one can name Inna Khadzhieva from the well-known organization Human Right Watch, as well as lawyer Mr. Reznik.

    Ha ha ha These gentlemen do not want to lose the State Department money! And the rest of the home-grown defenders of Labor are the same with y and!

    I can’t say anything about Madame Human Rights Watch, I have no idea who it is. But the gray-haired Mr. Reznik rushed to Sheremetyevo in full steam, and then did not crawl out of the media all day - he would not miss this chance to publicize in a high-profile case. The author of the article, probably, uses some other Internet, if he managed not to notice this Mr. ... uh ... Mr., who is giving the interview right and left.

    "Edward Snowden really asked for political asylum and asks human rights defenders to support him, said lawyer Henry Reznik after a meeting with a former US intelligence officer"
    Read in full: http://rus.ruvr.ru/news/2013_07_12/Genri-Reznik-Snouden-dejstvitelno-poprosil-po
    liticheskogo-ubezhishha-v-Rossii-6503 /
  25. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 14 July 2013 15: 04
    -2
    PSS = As you would expect.

    Mr. Snowden understands what to fly through the NATO and EU countries (which is actually equivalent to NATO), which are headed by the chief sheriff who wants his scalpel. In the Pacific Ocean, the devil also knows what might happen - for example, an airplane in Bermuda will disappear when flying to Latin America. So he chooses where the shanm is.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 14 July 2013 20: 20
      0
      Mdaaa ...
      Another victim of the exam granted. angry
      Indeed, it is really possible to disappear in Bermuda when flying through the Pacific Ocean ...
      And you can, when flying over the Pacific Ocean and the Canaries, the abyss ... laughing
      1. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 14 July 2013 22: 47
        -1
        Sir, if you do not have a sense of humor and forget that many aircraft use GPS and remember the Boeing incidents in the Far East (by the way, the idea was taken from this by the Bond scriptwriters "Tomorrow Never Dies"), then you will quite understand a subtle joke about Bermuda as the most famous place of missing all transports.
        P.S. I never had the chance to pass the exam, alas ...
    2. AlexW
      AlexW 15 July 2013 03: 20
      0
      Quote: ShadowCat
      chief sheriff who wants his scalpel
      Maybe a scalp? It’s actually possible to fly to LatAmerica across the Pacific Ocean. The earth is round fellow But at the same time, entering the airspace above the EU is what? make two turns around the ball? laughing Bermuda actually in the Atlantic ... Recognized humor-write more. wassat
  26. piotr534
    piotr534 14 July 2013 15: 15
    +5
    Quote: mirag2
    he didn’t rest against us (all the more so because it is with us that he seeks asylum because he has no choice), because this will complicate relations with the United States
    For this reason, refugee status exists to help people who are cornered. And all these conversations are needed, not needed, empty, not empty is selfish interest. There is a moral side to the issue, a guy in a difficult situation because of a conflict with the United States, that there is a political issue and Snowden has every right to receive refugee status. If you not only talk about human rights in the West, but also observe these rights, then regardless of any possible consequences, refugee status must be granted. And this will be a principled position, otherwise it is needed, not needed.
  27. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 14 July 2013 16: 01
    +3
    I read comments about Putin, and I never cease to be surprised. After some publications, he is an agent of the State Department and a "member of the" world government, then he is a hero and a great schemer. Probably, such ambiguous feelings arise not only in me ...
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 14 July 2013 20: 24
      0
      It's funny that there was a person who noticed wink
      This is called doublethink - the ability to organically perceive completely contradictory information. In other words, the pathological absence of cognitive dissonance.
      Do not be surprised, this is constantly found here wink - get used to
  28. wax
    wax 14 July 2013 16: 15
    +2
    If a citizen of the Russian Federation of a similar specialty and secret-bearing were in the United States and Putin called Obama to return him for trial in his country, he would obviously get a face on the table.
    1. poquello
      poquello 14 July 2013 17: 21
      +2
      "If a citizen of the Russian Federation with a similar specialty and secrecy ended up in the United States and Putin called Obama to return him for court in his country, he would obviously have received a face on the table."

      Without "IF WO" They ran there in batches and left.
  29. waisson
    waisson 14 July 2013 18: 03
    +2
    and I would give not looking at anything I think Snowd stretched a whole chain to us as it was at one time from us. here we would have thrown these shitty toads to respect and to reckon with us and sometimes to listen
  30. georg737577
    georg737577 14 July 2013 18: 25
    -1
    I believe that Putin has once again slammed ... Snowden could have been given asylum immediately, thereby showing America the “Great and Mighty” in an illusory way ... And let them lick their lips ... And all honest people on the planet would welcome such a step, and the authority of Russia and personally Putin-would have increased significantly. And to provide asylum after statements about "not harming American partners" ... It's all strange ...
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 14 July 2013 20: 26
      -1
      On the contrary. Now they will have to either shut up or stop repeating about the spirit of trust between rival countries
  31. Skuto
    Skuto 14 July 2013 18: 40
    +2
    What problems, let his comrades in Minsk will accept)))
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 14 July 2013 20: 27
      0
      100500
      May we get something from them wink
      In addition, Minsk is a magnificent small city, and the people there are normal.
  32. Irtysh
    Irtysh 14 July 2013 19: 29
    +6
    Quote: Skuto
    What problems, let his comrades in Minsk will accept)))


    Lee Harvey Oswald was already somehow sheltered in Minsk. And where are their Kennedy now? :-) No ... You can’t go to Minsk - otherwise Obama’s tweezers will be :-)

    When Obama called Putin, he kept repeating for five minutes: "Not to Minsk !!!"
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 14 July 2013 20: 28
      0
      +100500 lol laughing
  33. Andrey44
    Andrey44 14 July 2013 20: 36
    -1
    In my opinion, giving political asylum with the condition of prohibiting harm to "colleagues" (worst friends) is normal. It is clear that our people will take him into circulation and no one will know what he said there. On the other hand, questions arise. Why, having such material well-being, and the prospects for growth, did he start all this (this is not all) that he wanted world fame? Bad analyst or something else?
  34. aviamed90
    aviamed90 14 July 2013 22: 14
    +1
    The situation is interesting.

    Snowden brought out the dirty business of the US NSA. For what reasons he did it - the second thing. The fact is on the face. The reliability of these data does not raise doubts even among "NATO partners".

    It is admitted that Skype, Facebook, Google, etc. were intercepted. Certainly not totally, but selectively. As they say - "by interests". Europe has worn out.

    And what about Russia?
    The President declares his support for our "American partners". Partners in what? Wiretapping?
    State institutions of the Russian Federation, allegedly were not tapped. At the same time, everyone is silent that in Russia there are also citizens-users of Skype, Facebook, Google. And not only working in factories, but also occupying not the last state posts. Or didn’t they listen? It is doubtful.
    Undoubtedly, damage has been inflicted on both the state and citizens of the Russian Federation. Or the state does not give a damn about the rights of its citizens?

    Well, with citizenship, everything is simple. It is necessary to give. And without any conditions. It is beneficial for us. And relations with the United States are not so good for well-known reasons. And, over time, they will not get better if, of course, we defend our sovereignty.
    And at the same time maintain good relations with the countries of South America.
  35. albatross
    albatross 14 July 2013 22: 43
    +4
    From this Snowden, you need to make a second Sakharov. And erect a monument in case of death. And, if necessary, the Snowden Prize will be awarded to everyone who escapes from the United States for political reasons. Then there will be a sense.
  36. shpuntik
    shpuntik 14 July 2013 23: 06
    0
    It looks like the GDP is doing back-cutting, with the subsequent transition to pain. I hope his belt did not come loose ...
  37. studentmati
    studentmati 15 July 2013 00: 09
    +1
    Well done guy! good I think a lot of time will pass before the whole world can really appreciate everything that is happening. Snowden's action is thoughtful, balanced and not spontaneous, and not commercial in any way.
  38. survivor
    survivor 15 July 2013 06: 21
    +2
    I wonder if I'm alone here paranoid, or is there still? who doesn’t put together such news as Ed’s arrival in Russia and Putin’s sudden decision to arrange a military check? okay, albeit exercises, but so many units are put on alert. and strategic aviation, and missile brigade, and ... grouping of ships in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk ... not good, such coincidences, oh not good.
  39. studentmati
    studentmati 15 July 2013 10: 38
    0
    "There are no accidents in this world, every step leaves a trace ..." Anything can be ...
  40. Zubr
    Zubr 15 July 2013 15: 21
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    Quote: Vadivak
    Quote: svp67
    In this situation, of course it would be better if it weren’t, and


    “Edward Snowden has exceptional information and for many years the Russians will need him; he fled from America, taking with him several computers with interesting content. The question is whether he was preparing for this alone, or he was consulted in one of the foreign intelligence services, ”said Alexander Makovsky, a retired Polish intelligence colonel.
    Question: Putin says: “Snowden is sitting in the transit zone at Sheremetyevo Airport, our services have nothing to do with him, they don’t even talk to him.” Do you believe that?
    Answer:
    He's just mocking.
    Snowden knows the NSA system perfectly, and the Russians are developing this agency. Thanks to Snowden, they can carry out all kinds of hacker hacks to test the reaction of the Americans. Snowden has information about electronic updates, there are some things that need to be demonstrated. For several years, the Russians may need it. It is possible that they will give him a new identity and plastic surgery. Russia is huge. There is where to hide.


    Here I am about the same! Or maybe the Cossack is mishandled .....? wink