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New Ka-52K will be equipped with folding blades

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New Ka-52K will be equipped with folding blades

The new Ka-52K ship-based helicopter, which creates the Russian Helicopters holding, will have stable anti-corrosion treatment, folding blades and wing consoles, the press service of the holding said on Wednesday.


MBMC-2013, which takes place every two years, will start in St. Petersburg on Wednesday, July 3, and last until July July. The exposition and exhibition section will be located in four pavilions of the Lenexpo exhibition complex with a total area of ​​over 7 thousand square meters, in open spaces and in the waters of the Gulf of Finland, as well as at the berths of the Naval Station.

"Developing a line of traditional for fleet naval helicopters, the Russian Helicopters holding is preparing new programs. So, the Ka-52 Alligator helicopter will be presented at the IMDS, on the basis of which a new modification of the Ka-52K is created in the interests of the Russian Navy. It is planned that specifically for basing on ships, the Ka-52K will have stable anti-corrosion treatment, folding blades and wing consoles and other technical solutions, and a number of helicopter systems will be adapted for use in the fleet, "the report said.

It is noted that the maritime version of the "Alligator" may be interesting for countries that are actively developing their naval forces. In the Russian Navy, this helicopter, first of all, is intended for possible deployment on universal landing craft of the Mistral type.

In addition, together with Rosoboronexport OJSC, the Russian Helicopters holding will acquaint potential customers of naval helicopters with the unique capabilities of the Ka-31. This helicopter is designed to protect the formations of warships operating outside the zone of action of the coastal radar and AWACS planes from air strikes. Ka-31 provides detection of air targets (including low-altitude against the background of land or sea), as well as surface targets and automatic transmission of information about them to land and ship control stations or air defense systems.
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  1. Phantom Revolution
    Phantom Revolution 4 July 2013 11: 20
    -2
    This is good, but first finish the electronics and weapons. So far this is a dank helicopter.
    1. Kremlin
      Kremlin 4 July 2013 11: 21
      -1
      at least some, not like flying a bucket!
    2. Professor
      Professor 4 July 2013 11: 24
      28
      Quote: Phantom Revolution
      So far this is a dank helicopter.

      What finger is this statement sucked from? At a foreign forum reported?
      This helicopter should have been in the army and navy for a long time!
      1. Kremlin
        Kremlin 4 July 2013 11: 37
        -8
        Are you sure? everywhere they fly on buckets, and they show you at salons like steeps we have equipment, a video for suckers and you are led like 5 graders1
      2. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 4 July 2013 12: 05
        0
        Quote: Professor
        What finger is this statement sucked from? At a foreign forum reported?
        This helicopter should have been in the army and navy for a long time!

        Your "wit" is surprising. Can you tell us about the same radar station in your unnamed sources?
        1. Professor
          Professor 4 July 2013 12: 24
          +6
          Quote: Phantom Revolution
          Can you tell us about the same radar in your unnamed sources?

          Answer a question with a question? wink Then everything is clear ... I am calm for the Kamovites.
          1. Phantom Revolution
            Phantom Revolution 4 July 2013 12: 42
            14 th
            Quote: Professor
            Answer a question with a question? wink Then everything is clear ... I am calm for the Kamovites.

            Everything is clear, you have no information, just to blurt out. Once again .... get better.
            1. Professor
              Professor 4 July 2013 12: 57
              14
              Quote: Phantom Revolution
              Everything is clear, you have no information, just to blurt out. Once again .... get better.

              Striking verbiage? A simple question was asked: What finger is this statement sucked from? In other words: what is the source of information for such high-profile statements? Here, either be kind enough to answer or do not clog the air.
            2. Blackgrifon
              Blackgrifon 4 July 2013 14: 15
              +5
              Quote: Phantom Revolution
              Everything is clear, you have no information, just to blurt out. Once again .... get better.


              In fact, the professor is right - what are your arguments based on? In the absence of a URO? But this is not related to the characteristics of the helicopter. Ka-52 is 80% composed of Ka-50 components and its creation has come a long way. And if you compare the official performance characteristics, then the question is who is better - Ka-52 or Mi-28.
        2. klimpopov
          klimpopov 4 July 2013 12: 57
          +4
          Colleague, you are not confused with Mile? There, yes, with a radar supratulmonary calamity trouble. And then the crossbow. Or am I wrong?
      3. sashka
        sashka 4 July 2013 12: 43
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        This helicopter should have been in the army and navy for a long time!

        Golden words .. Previously, there was hope on Pu. now Rogozin will come and give everyone a shit. The professor is not here for you .. After the third? or fourth? or fifth? We’ll do everything .. Maybe .. Someday. If this works out ))). Or we’ll show a new model ... we don’t get used to it. And it’s time for everyone to get used to it ..
      4. fokino1980
        fokino1980 4 July 2013 15: 02
        -1
        But he's really damp! And the assembly is generally "seams" unfortunately !!!! am
      5. The comment was deleted.
    3. Rustam
      Rustam 4 July 2013 11: 55
      +2
      Quote a-Ka-52K ships will have a stable anti-corrosion treatment, folding blades and wing consoles
      __________

      I heard this 2 years ago. Well, nothing will happen. MAKS-2013 is there and we’ll talk to each other. winked But there are questions, because all this will be based on our Mistrals

      1) according to KA-52K

      -What about the marine version of the crossbow radar? (At what stage is the creation)

      - did the prototype start production on Progress, and when to begin testing for testing systems and mechanisms?

      - Is the use of anti-ship missiles from this helicopter being processed?

      2) causes concern - determining the type of transport helicopter for basing

      - Was the command determined by the type of helicopter on the udk? which helicopter ka-29 or ka-31 or both models?

      -no contract with Kumeratu, for the construction of new models or will you use the old KA-27PS-as it is not solid

      in general questions the sea and the deed-ship arrives in 2014 - while some talk is what really bothers

      PHOTO US Navy - launch from a helicopter SH-60B, anti-ship missile AGM-119
      1. Evgeniy46
        Evgeniy46 4 July 2013 12: 25
        +5
        Quote: Rustam
        what's with the marine version of the crossbow radar? (at what stage is the creation)

        is being done, but as I understand it, while under the bar, they won’t tell us anything concrete
        Quote: Rustam
        - did the prototype start production on Progress, and when to begin testing for testing systems and mechanisms?

        the prototype is fussing, but it is not yet known when
        Quote: Rustam
        - Is the use of anti-ship missiles from this helicopter being processed?

        want to suspend X-35 with accelerators
        Quote: Rustam
        2) is worrying - determining the type of transport helicopter for basing - has the command been determined by the type of helicopter for fishing? Which helicopter ka-29 or ka-31 or both models?

        Ka-29. Ka-31 is a helicopter AWACS
        Quote: Rustam
        -no contract with Kumeratu, for the construction of new models or will you use the old KA-27PS-as it is not solid

        Waiting for results from MAX-2013
        1. Rustam
          Rustam 4 July 2013 12: 27
          +2
          Evgeniy46

          Greetings, thanks and shake my hand

      2. cdrt
        cdrt 4 July 2013 12: 58
        +2
        And where to rush with the K-52K while there are no Mistrals?
        There are no horny ones either, on the rest - God forbid, one Ka-27 breaks in.
        Why - to bulo? Well, for this approach - probably in the Andes. only there they’re not doing it so badly, but what can I say, which is cooler than the Russians.
        They will bring it slowly. When the mains go into operation, while they are just being conquered, it will be somewhere around 2016, in 2-3 years from today, and helicopters for them will bring them to mind. And before, it wasn’t why.
        And transports - IMHO, it would be more logical to restore the production of the Ka-29, of course not a super car, but there is one.
  2. Retx
    Retx 4 July 2013 11: 20
    +4
    In the Russian Navy, this helicopter is primarily intended for the possible placement

    Yes, how is that? belay
  3. Kremlin
    Kremlin 4 July 2013 11: 20
    19 th
    handsome, who for pluses put b!
    1. Manager
      Manager 4 July 2013 11: 32
      12
      Quote: Kremlin
      handsome, who for pluses put b!

      And why should you put the pros? Not a single interesting comment. Not a single funny one. For the pros came here? YES we will now send you to the mammoths cons!
      1. Kremlin
        Kremlin 4 July 2013 11: 36
        14 th
        how would you in real life would not be covered! be careful .. not with "Orange" bazaar!
        1. Manager
          Manager 4 July 2013 11: 38
          11
          Quote: Kremlin
          as if in real life you would not be covered!

          I do not understand, is this a threat? Who can you break through to you and from where? What would later think what you say and to whom.
          1. cherkas.oe
            cherkas.oe 4 July 2013 14: 30
            +1
            Quote: Manager
            I do not understand, is this a threat? Who can you break through to you and from where?

            That's right, please break through, I don’t see this troll, only according to your comments, but it’s not on my black list, so I’m in it on black, but I don’t remember that I would argue with or conflict with it and don’t remember at all.
            1. Manager
              Manager 4 July 2013 15: 15
              +1
              Quote: cherkas.oe
              That's right, please break through, I don’t see this troll, only according to your comments, but it’s not on my black list, so I’m in it on black, but I don’t remember that I would argue with or conflict with it and don’t remember at all.


              Yes, he all merged. But this miracle works in the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation. In the garage there is someone shorter.
        2. Samminosh
          Samminosh 4 July 2013 11: 51
          +6
          Yeah. With thirteen-year-old shkolota.
          Go away
        3. klimpopov
          klimpopov 4 July 2013 13: 01
          +3
          Instead of a thousand words! bully
          From me to you in the karma of the rays of diarrhea! wink
          This is still not modders pulled up laughing
          oh tightened up, comrade went to the bath laughing
          1. Idolum
            Idolum 4 July 2013 14: 32
            +2
            And knocking is not good, in fairness, you here in "shoulder straps" are sooo often talking nonsense (do not take it personally, I am in general)
            1. klimpopov
              klimpopov 4 July 2013 23: 41
              +1
              Unclear. Give you my "shoulder straps"? Well, don't write nonsense. ....
              And knocking is not good

              Is it not good to "knock" on trolls? wassat You are a genius! Did I knock? !!!!!! ?????
              Complained to moderators? !!!
              (do not take it personally, I generally)

              Generally break the pattern! You refute the second in the first sentence.
              I'm leaving!
      2. Cat
        Cat 4 July 2013 11: 42
        13
        Quote: Manager
        Quote: Kremlin
        handsome, who for pluses put b!

        And why should you put the pros? Not a single interesting comment. Not a single funny one. For the pros came here? YES we will now send you to the mammoths cons!

        tavaresch, being a hangover, got lost a little ... and decided that he was in some thread of the social network - where extortion of "likes" is considered a worthy and obligatory deed =)))
  4. Airman
    Airman 4 July 2013 11: 21
    +2
    The appearance of the KA-52 in the marine version was waiting a long time.
  5. Constantine
    Constantine 4 July 2013 11: 22
    +1
    The main thing, when making offers to foreign buyers, is not to forget that Mistrals, who need weapons, are already on the way. In general, I have no doubt that the car is good and that they will not forget about their own people, but of course it is better to dot the i's.
  6. black_eagle
    black_eagle 4 July 2013 11: 32
    -2
    Can't we build the Mistral-class barge ourselves? At the Nikolaev shipyard, you can build a ship of any displacement, although such a Mistral is definitely not needed, such a steamer is a huge target in the ocean, although according to today's conflicts, when the seas are not particularly at war, do not remember for the Falklands, now the geopolitical situation is different, this concept has the right to a life. But we can make the barge ourselves !!!
    1. Idolum
      Idolum 4 July 2013 11: 51
      +5
      We buy a "barge" of the "Mistral" type just to make them ourselves, and not only helicopter ones, but also aircraft ones (those that are larger). In general, because of the technology of block construction, and only because of her dear, because of her ... It so happened that we do not have stocks for the construction of aircraft carriers, now it is not necessary ... wink
      1. black_eagle
        black_eagle 4 July 2013 13: 45
        0
        Are we Chinese ??? Are the French smarter than us? (In this area)
        1. The comment was deleted.
        2. Retx
          Retx 4 July 2013 13: 56
          +6
          Unfortunately yes. Block / modular construction is new to us.
          1. black_eagle
            black_eagle 4 July 2013 14: 31
            0
            Nevertheless, this is not a reason to poke technology like this insolent, for this there is the FSB and the GRU wink , and for the development of technology would be enough for one car and not six
            1. Retx
              Retx 4 July 2013 14: 55
              +1
              And where does the intelligence? Technology is not just blueprints. The whole production complex and work experience cannot be stolen. Everything is created by trial and error.
              1. black_eagle
                black_eagle 4 July 2013 18: 38
                0
                Experience, earned while working, only technology is needed, this is the main thing. but they are absolutely all in paper form
        3. Idolum
          Idolum 4 July 2013 14: 00
          +2
          No, not the Chinese, we are talking about buying a construction technology, but consider these Mistrals a "walrus" ... It will take a lot of money and time to develop your own technology ... It is no longer a secret for anyone, looking objectively, the country (ours) is preparing for war. "Look around..."
          1. black_eagle
            black_eagle 4 July 2013 14: 31
            +1
            There is never time, this is a philosophical question
            1. Idolum
              Idolum 4 July 2013 14: 42
              +2
              I agree, but it painfully reminds me of 1936-39 (Spain), draw an analogy with Syria today ... History, wayward aunt, to those who do not remember her, she, with a grin, substitutes the same rake ...
              1. black_eagle
                black_eagle 4 July 2013 17: 35
                +2
                History moves in a spiral, this is certainly true. This is especially clear in the case of Ukraine. I would not compare with Spain, my colleague has returned from Egypt for a week, so he described everything that is there in one word - poverty! So much for the reasons for the revolutions, 95% of Egypt's GDP is the exploitation of the Suez Canal !!! A comparatively rich Israel is nearby, and the Americans helped! But they found how? So the rest of the Syrians, the Egyptians also think why we cannot do this, although so far wherever our striped friends came to "help" there is no progress, neither in Afghanistan, nor in Iraq, nor in Libya, anywhere, but about the similarity of events in Spain and in Syria? Oh, I don’t know, it doesn’t look much like it, we haven’t even sent advisers to Syria, as we did in a bunch of hot spots during the Cold War.
    2. sashka
      sashka 4 July 2013 11: 53
      +5
      Quote: black_eagle
      But we can make a barge ourselves !!!

      Go ahead. AND DO .. Who will do?. Newcomers from the provinces? Most likely migrant workers will need to be taught to "read" drawings and use a measuring tool. And then the process will go .. Or maybe the most "lightweight" option. Buy from the Chinese and not bother with such "nonsense !? They will do ...
      1. black_eagle
        black_eagle 4 July 2013 13: 44
        +3
        Or you can make an even more lightweight option, buy from the French, while there are petrodollars, why teach your own people, leave one MGIMO university for the children of the oil industry to study, technical schools and polytechnics to close, why to teach the younger generation to the army and then everyone to Moscow to build! The economy of the state should develop from the inside out, supplying OWN goods to the maximum, then there will be what to spend and what to spend on
    3. cdrt
      cdrt 4 July 2013 12: 09
      +5
      To those who like to prove that we can build it ourselves, it’s probably worth remembering the history of pr.10200 ... When we couldn’t even decide what we want ...
      So - to buy to master experience (like the marines, to land not in the style of the Kerch landing / Guadalcanal, but a little more modern, and to shipbuilders - as this is a ship with a bunch of systems and> 20K displacement, you can build faster than frigates), then build yourself, well then design by ourselves
      1. black_eagle
        black_eagle 4 July 2013 13: 39
        +1
        Quote: cdrt
        Lovers to prove that we all build ourselves

        Well, you would have remembered project 23 ... specialist))) There are objective and subjective reasons for rejecting each project, the objective reason for curtailing the project 10200 is the lack of free slipways, plus there was another project 1143, the question is what project is stopping us now build this type of ship?
    4. Rustam
      Rustam 4 July 2013 12: 15
      +4
      black_eagle Today, 11:32 AM
      Can't we build the Mistral-class barge ourselves?
      ___________

      Where do you come from, eh? Barge, Trough, Basin -a normal argument against will or will not?

      go to my profile and read my comments over the past 2 years, you will find out a lot of interesting things, just read in full, maybe they will approve you or maybe not (like I'm in a tank)



      here is a video from "IMDS-2013 - DCNS stand - we can also order a supply vessel BRAVE - there are also plans to build a full-scale Mistral simulator
      1. raf
        raf 4 July 2013 12: 51
        +1
        Dear Rustam, why did you post this video? What can I learn from him, for example, as a person who does not speak foreign languages? Do not take this as a rebuke, I just want to understand the meaning of your actions!
        1. Rustam
          Rustam 4 July 2013 13: 03
          +3
          understand the meaning of your actions
          __________

          The point is that the French military companies are ready to work with us, sell the latest weapons, transfer technologies and most importantly create joint ventures

          just look at the video — what a huge stand the DCNS corporation otkhrohola at IMDS-2013 — so that they don’t relax with USC (although they already failed) seeing a competitor

          It’s also worth looking at Vladivostok, although it shows the models of KA-27 helicopters (28)
        2. Retx
          Retx 4 July 2013 13: 18
          +1
          The ship was created for all conditions (climatic) of the customer's country, i.e. Russia. Whoever spoke about "below + 7C will not work" - a belt on the ass. lol
      2. Idolum
        Idolum 4 July 2013 12: 52
        +3
        And how beautiful the helicopters of the coaxial scheme look on the layout. smile
        Already warms the soul.
      3. black_eagle
        black_eagle 4 July 2013 13: 34
        +1
        Quote: Rustam
        Where do you come from, eh? Barge, Trough, Basin -a normal argument against will or will not?

        Arguments against Mistral with the head, firstly it is a floating dock, a huge point on the radars with our own guys, while the entire fleet of the world is trying to become more inconspicuous. BDK somehow we know how to do it ourselves, as well as helicopter carriers, by the way, is it not clear that there is a huge rollback behind this program ??? I’m not going to read your writings in two years, if you can, tell me your opinion briefly and concisely, I have no time to waste time on you. Where did I come from, again, this is not your problem, if you want to argue on the merits - if you get personal, let's not even talk to you.
        1. Retx
          Retx 4 July 2013 13: 54
          +5
          Quote: black_eagle
          while the entire fleet of the world is trying to become more inconspicuous

          This does not fit with the procurement of helicopter carriers in other countries.
          Quote: black_eagle
          BDK somehow know how

          I don’t want to upset, but "Ivan Gren" has been built since 2004, and the rest is all Polish and outdated.
          1. black_eagle
            black_eagle 4 July 2013 14: 29
            0
            Quote: RETX
            I don't want to upset, but "Ivan Gren" has been built since 2004

            Here it is also necessary to place emphasis, instead of supporting our shipbuilding, building docks for training personnel, we feed the French
            1. Retx
              Retx 4 July 2013 14: 56
              0
              Mistral supported our shipbuilding more than a blunt infusion of dough.
              1. black_eagle
                black_eagle 4 July 2013 15: 40
                +1
                So far, he has not supported it in any way, or have new ship designs for the order of this vessel been laid down?
                1. Retx
                  Retx 4 July 2013 16: 07
                  +1
                  No way ??? Yes, he brought the plant back to life! Today the Sevastopol DVDK has passed. And our shipbuilders cannot complete the order for this vessel ...
                  1. black_eagle
                    black_eagle 4 July 2013 16: 39
                    -1
                    Quote: RETX
                    Mistral supported our shipbuilding more

                    OUR shipbuilding
                    Quote: RETX
                    And our shipbuilders cannot finish the warrant for this vessel ..

                    OUR shipbuilders
                    Well, you yourself answered, right?
          2. PLO
            PLO 4 July 2013 18: 39
            0
            I don’t want to upset, but "Ivan Gren" has been built since 2004, and the rest is all Polish and outdated.

            funny.
            because only today there was information that the Ministry of Defense will finally pay off debts to Amber

            The military department undertook to pay off all debts, and in return the shipyard should complete the construction of the ship before the fall of next year.

            feel the difference?
            For ten years now, the Ministry of Defense has been pulling an epic with a 5000t BDK, changing the technical project three times, underfunding, and finally agreed to give money to complete the construction of a small BDK

            at the same time, somewhere a pancake dug up 600 million euros to Mistral, having paid 200 lyam for it, probably giving all the financing, and oddly enough, the Baltzavod built its part of Mistral, which is about 10000 tons on time.

            apparently you are a fan of such hypocrisy
        2. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 4 July 2013 13: 57
          +5
          Quote: black_eagle
          a huge point on the radars with our guys,

          Well, any Amerian aircraft carrier on radars is not even a point, but a galosh, so this drawback is debatable.
          1. black_eagle
            black_eagle 4 July 2013 14: 27
            +2
            Remind you what an AUG order is? Russia does not have a fleet to provide travel orders for SIX !!! Mistral
            1. Retx
              Retx 4 July 2013 15: 03
              +1
              Where did you get this figure? Vladivostok (2014) and Sevastopol (2015) all. TWO pieces.
              1. black_eagle
                black_eagle 4 July 2013 16: 37
                0
                Yes, it was not 6 but 4 that were mistaken, two French two, we
        3. Rustam
          Rustam 4 July 2013 14: 59
          +1
          black_eagle
          let’s, if you get personal, I won’t even talk to you.

          __________

          1-In my words there was a figurative phrase (I’m not used to poking and moving on to you, whose person I don’t know much)

          2-talk, so for 2 years now we’ve been talking, discussing, proving, and what’s interesting, most people speak vigorously for this project

          3-while the entire fleet of the world is trying to become more inconspicuous. Which fleet of Cambodia or Peru? winked

          All fleets of the world - China, Japan, Spain, Holland, France, Ita

          liya, Korea, and even more so the United States -Have in their composition udk or build-and about protection, so these are questions for the USC, because we are building frigates and corvettes for 8 years with a displacement of 2-4 tons

          How many analogs of Mistral would we have been building for about 15 years? If Grenn is 5 tons, it will be 10 years

          PS-indicative photo (clickable) Why do we need UDC (the entire fleet of the world is trying to become inconspicuous) The photo of the UDC LHD-4 "Boxer" clearly shows all the representatives of the standard "Wasp" air group - converters MV-22, multipurpose SH-60, heavy CH-53E and AV-8B aircraft.

          Then why the heck are we huge Eagles? And investing a huge dough for their repair and modernization ???? corvettes and hang out from the closet, no guys our fleet should develop and go in its development as the leading fleets of the world do (even at the first stage with a stranger help) and what to do, we don’t have time for buildup.
          1. Retx
            Retx 4 July 2013 15: 29
            +2
            Quote: Rustam
            If Gren is 5 tons, it’s already 10 years since they’ve been building

            Speaking of Grena. August 2012 vs today, find 10 differences called wassat
            http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=340422&download
            = 2 & type = .jpg
            http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=340423&download=2&type=.j
            pg
            The insert does not work, sorry. In short, I would not trust these people to repair these bicycles!
            1. PLO
              PLO 4 July 2013 23: 39
              0
              The insert does not work, sorry. In short, I would not trust these people to repair these bicycles!

              and the trust you have grown to trust such work, the hell trustee
          2. black_eagle
            black_eagle 4 July 2013 15: 43
            0
            I said that Mistral, or rather UDC, is not needed? cite, I said that you do not need French, let's build it yourself! Plus, in matters of UDC, like AUG, we have many holes in the form of collateral and warrants, it is not so important to create a lead ship, how to make a full-fledged BATTLE instead of a training unit
        4. Sleptsoff
          Sleptsoff 5 July 2013 11: 42
          0
          The American aircraft carrier is also a huge target, but for some reason the amers are not afraid that someone will bomb them. We need the Mistral to resolve local conflicts and intimidation, and not for full-fledged military operations, it is also a miniature air base.
    5. Retx
      Retx 4 July 2013 13: 06
      +1
      Can not. Nikolaev shipbuilding all the more. And for 2 years a ship of the 1st rank is an unrealistic period for Russia.
      1. black_eagle
        black_eagle 4 July 2013 14: 26
        -2
        It must be done to become real!
        1. Uncle Serozha
          Uncle Serozha 5 July 2013 10: 57
          0
          Quote: black_eagle
          It must be done to become real!

          That's what they did, having bought the technology for building the Mistral. But the development of such technologies by ourselves (even with the involvement of intelligence) would take years.
          And besides, as colleagues rightly noted here, these technologies will make it possible to build larger ships, if necessary.
  7. Sharingan
    Sharingan 4 July 2013 11: 40
    0
    Eh, still have "Gorshkov" left.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 4 July 2013 12: 12
      0
      That's real - they had a ship that they could bring to a normal aircraft carrier (from hermaphrodite (s) IJN) wink ).
      I would go like that, and Kuznetsov would also be sawn in AB for now ...
      And so - as soon as K. goes into repair, we will lose even that little (apparently 5 years) that there is regarding the use of aircraft carrier aviation ...
      1. Rustam
        Rustam 4 July 2013 12: 22
        +3
        really had
        ________

        In reality, we had a rusty trough, for which the country had no money in 2004, and would have rotted at some pier if it weren’t for Indian money and order

        read the current article -http: //topwar.ru/30364-indiyskiy-avianosec-vikramaditya-vyshel-v-more-dlya-ispy
        taniy.html
        1. cdrt
          cdrt 4 July 2013 13: 08
          -2
          hmm ... in 2004 there was no money? Well, perhaps too lazy to raise statistics. And on the loafs were ... Recall that Nikolsky wrote - 2 loaves = 1 to Kuznetsov.
          The service staff is probably even cooler, after all, a nuclear power plant is not cheap.

          And the value of loaves ... with missiles that sometimes can’t take off (due to long overdue service periods) ... and even conceptually sharpened only for suicide in preparation for a universal apocalypse? Yes, even with a long-dead target designation system? That's where the logic is
        2. GSH-18
          GSH-18 4 July 2013 18: 39
          +2
          Quote: Rustam
          really had
          ________

          In reality, we had a rusty trough, for which the country had no money in 2004, and would have rotted at some pier if it weren’t for Indian money and order

          read the current article -http: //topwar.ru/30364-indiyskiy-avianosec-vikramaditya-vyshel-v-more-dlya-ispy

          taniy.html

          I support 100%
  8. Idolum
    Idolum 4 July 2013 11: 44
    +2
    ... Ka-52K will be equipped with folding blades ...

    -So you ... laughing
    "Obvious-incredible" damn it.
  9. sashka
    sashka 4 July 2013 11: 47
    +4
    So it seems they were originally equipped with such a system. And an ejection system for ejection. What is the news? Or another noodle?
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 4 July 2013 12: 04
      +2
      Quote: Sasha
      So it seems they were originally equipped with such a system. And an ejection system for ejection. What is the news? Or another noodle?


      no, just the author -
    2. lucidlook
      lucidlook 4 July 2013 13: 07
      +1
      Quote: Sasha
      What is the news?

      Key words are highlighted: "sustainable anticorrosion treatmentfolding blades and wing consoles"
  10. lucidlook
    lucidlook 4 July 2013 12: 07
    +3
    This is all, of course, good and correct, but somewhat belated. The topic of helicopters should be developed in the direction of Ka-92
    1. Idolum
      Idolum 4 July 2013 12: 16
      +1
      Anything worth "heard" about him?
      1. lucidlook
        lucidlook 4 July 2013 13: 00
        0
        Quote: idolum
        Anything worth "heard" about him?

        Silence. However, this does not mean almost anything. There, Sikorsky was intimidated with his high-speed ally, so maybe ours will stir.
        1. Idolum
          Idolum 4 July 2013 13: 09
          +1
          As far as I know, now the KAMOV people are closely engaged in the Ka-62 project (civilian "Kasatka"), they hope for a good "catch", perhaps in the form of a surprise (it happened more than once) they are preparing this one too. God grant. The machine is good. smile
    2. sashka
      sashka 4 July 2013 12: 34
      0
      Quote: lucidlook
      The topic of helicopters should be developed in the direction of Ka-92

      And here we are, we indulge in models ... And helicopters. and drones and PAK YES. Maybe some kind of reviving aircraft model circles? So then the Academicians of the Russian Academy of Sciences will not be needed .. Throw models all over the world .. What no help to Great Pu ..
      1. lucidlook
        lucidlook 4 July 2013 13: 04
        +2
        The model in the photo is not to your liking? I just can’t immediately recall a single aircraft that would not go through the preliminary model stage, well, except for SBILT (Paper Plane From a Sheet of Notebook).
        1. sashka
          sashka 4 July 2013 13: 19
          0
          Quote: lucidlook
          The model in the photo is not to your liking?

          "Model" may be to your liking .. Beautiful .. The result is where?. Rockets with helicopters collapse every time, and here are beautiful models .. Yes, there is something to wipe the nose of the Chinese and Naglo-Saxons ..
          1. Idolum
            Idolum 4 July 2013 13: 34
            +1
            Ah Sashka, Sashka, it doesn’t happen all at once, it doesn’t happen. We are not a Xerox (PRC), we ourselves think ...
      2. cdrt
        cdrt 4 July 2013 13: 12
        +1
        Correctly, one of my acquaintances wrote in the FB - the manifesto of reasonable conservatism: bad institutions (in the sense of public infrastructure) are better than bad reforms ...
        That’s what the grave has been at the RAS since 1995, but what was offered sharply showed everyone how simple it can be to make it worse at times.
        Under the fashionable slogan - take away and cut wink
  11. Vtel
    Vtel 4 July 2013 13: 31
    +2
    The new shipborne Ka-52K helicopter, which is being created by the Russian Helicopters holding, will have a stable anti-corrosion treatment, folding blades and wing consoles,

    Be sure to take into account the composition of the water in the Mediterranean and the color under the Syrian-Iranian landscape.
  12. Dimanrus86
    Dimanrus86 4 July 2013 14: 19
    0
    Great helicopter, if there were more of them in the troops!
  13. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 4 July 2013 14: 37
    0
    And why is there no version of a hovercraft? can you take off directly from the water and land on the water, blow out the pillow and inflate instead of the chassis, or is it unnecessary?
    you can save in theory, look for something, sit in an ambush to set mines, interfere with creating, fishing in the end
  14. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 4 July 2013 14: 38
    0
    A good combat helicopter, probably the sailors will be delighted with this, but really, the Mistral is too huge. Let him out, so what security is needed to cover.
  15. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 4 July 2013 14: 40
    0
    In addition, together with Rosoboronexport, the Russian Helicopters holding will acquaint potential customers of naval helicopters with the unique capabilities of the Ka-31.

    Sale of the motherland wholesale and retail continues!
    When will they just cover this shop ?!
    And on our ships how many such helicopters ?!
    1. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz 4 July 2013 14: 41
      +1
      Quote: Starover_Z
      Sale of the motherland wholesale and retail continues!

      according to your products should be produced but not sold?
      Quote: Starover_Z
      When will they just cover this shop ?!

      Russian Helicopters?
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 4 July 2013 15: 02
        0
        I am not opposed to a normal sale, but how many new equipment are now in the army, and how many have it sold abroad?
        And RosOboronExport, judging by the publications, sells everything it finds at the factories. Are they subordinate to someone, accountable?
        1. Kyrgyz
          Kyrgyz 4 July 2013 19: 52
          0
          Quote: Starover_Z
          I am not opposed to a normal sale, but how many new equipment are now in the army, and how many have it sold abroad?

          There is no direct military threat now, but it is necessary to support production, and it supports itself at the expense of foreign markets. Endless arming of oneself leads to inflation and eventually bankruptcy, an example of the USSR and the USA, the difference is that the USSR said stop and fixed the loss by changing policies, the USA continues to arm itself, crawling into space debts.
          Rosoboronexport does not trade in secret and is not exportable. and if India needs tanks more than we do now and they are ready to pay them like that and stamp them the same with other equipment.
  16. 123tank
    123tank 4 July 2013 16: 09
    -1
    Good news, and the comments are full of cynicism and gloating. Apparently, commentators have not visited Bolotnaya for a long time, they are bored.
  17. 0255
    0255 4 July 2013 16: 44
    0
    I am glad that the ideas laid down in the Ka-50 are being developed, it’s a pity that they are late. Yes, and the single-seat Ka-50 performed well in Chechnya, it is a pity that they abandoned it
  18. ramsi
    ramsi 4 July 2013 16: 51
    0
    and who remembers why not a tandem cabin? For a helicopter, a tall and narrow body is preferred rather than a flat and wide
  19. sergey158-29
    sergey158-29 5 July 2013 00: 28
    0
    Quote: "The new Ka-52K will be equipped with folding blades."

    Well, the words "NEW and WILL BE" are already pleasing to the eye!
  20. yanus
    yanus 5 July 2013 11: 18
    0
    Quote: Blackgrifon
    In the absence of a URO? But this is not related to the characteristics of the helicopter.

    Stumble. And nitsche what is it combat helicopter? It is on piloting at exhibitions, two propellers look cool. And the battlefield needs a weapon. NURs are few ...
    1. PLO
      PLO 5 July 2013 11: 28
      0
      Get out. And Nitsche, that this is a combat helicopter? It is on piloting at exhibitions that two propellers look cool. And the battlefield needs a weapon. NURs are few ...

      the reason is that Attacks for Ka-52 are made from scratch, and still have not been finished, instead of deploying the normal production of Whirlwinds.
      there is not a drop of guilt of the helicopter; he has all that is required of it.
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