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There are dissidents in the West.

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The US State Department is demanding that Russia “extradite” Edward Snowden, because in America “serious accusations” are brought against him, and he is blackmailing with a deterioration of relations ... There are two striking facts about this American demarche. First of all, the memory of the States was utterly discouraged: they kind of forgotten how many of our turncoats who committed serious crimes against Russia took refuge in the USA, and are still hiding there. Secondly, it is striking hysteria in which the State Department falls at the mere mention of the name of Snowden.


Although the damage that he caused the United States, very specific. The secrets of the military-industrial complex and the actual reconnaissance vehicle of the USA, the usual reconnaissance targets of the whole world, this time did not suffer at all. Snowden made publicly what everyone had guessed about before, and the competent authorities of other countries knew for sure: the United States carries out global electronic surveillance all over the world, including itself.

Snowden brought evidence of this, told the world the name of the eavesdropping and peeping American monster - PRISM, which would shed publicity on the unseemly activities of the CIA - a similar act of our defector would be declared a feat in the name of humanity.

The CIA exposer of Snowden, Washington declared no less than "the enemy of the West." Many people understand the inadequacy of such a reaction even in America, and public opinion begins to support Snowden, who has shown loyalty "towards humanity" ...

Why was the State Department so scared? Snowden effect, domino effect. Snowden is the second, if not the third, swallow that has flown in a dangerous direction. The US has not yet dealt with Julian Assange, the whistleblower of American diplomacy, how Snowden appears ... The natural question arises: who is next? And then the public fronde looms on the horizon ... Under the killer slogan: government search-ditches rummage through our underwear, they all have dirty hands ... Therefore, Snowden is declared an "enemy of the West", and the United States demands his exemplary flogging - to intimidate other snowmen.

But there is a more important circumstance. “Who is Snowden?” This question is asked today by all analysts in the West. What is a person who has refused 200 annual income in thousands of dollars and a wealthy life in Hawaii? What did he lack? Glory? But the fame of the CIA whistleblower is associated with considerable risk to life. To exchange life in Hawaii for fleeting fame and mortal danger? It does not fit in the heads of the western inhabitants.

Although the answer to this question is not so difficult, perhaps, just afraid to answer. All this is vaguely reminiscent of ... Well, yes, the Soviet dissidents. True, with one significant difference: they also exposed, and risked, but, with a certain share of luck, could count on life in Hawaii, or at least in the city of Paris. Snowden, like Assange, in this sense, the features are special, one might say, ideological, or idealistic, ready to suffer not in word but in deed. Assange is already under house arrest at the Ecuadorian embassy in London, Snowden is in the customs zone in Moscow. Such people appear when the moral atmosphere in society becomes quite depressing.

Exposing the CIA, Snowden, like all idealists, appeals to simple human feelings of justice and fairness. In correspondence with The Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald, he took the pseudonym Verax (Latin honest).

At the same time, he unwittingly destroys the bright image of American democracy, revealing its terrible secret: behind a decent facade lies global surveillance of the world and its own citizens. Any historian will tell you that this is the first and obligatory step towards dictatorship, that is, the image of the USA in the world has been greatly damaged. Hence the hysteria of the State Department ...

The guards of American democracy this time faced a problem that was formulated back in ancient Rome: "Watchmen must be kept safe." It arises in a period of decline and decay of empires, the Roman Empire failed to cope with it ...
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  1. Dangerous
    Dangerous 1 July 2013 07: 37 New
    -30
    An unusual story, of course, with this Snowden ... Although I think that it cannot be ruled out that he can be a salvager, a double agent. Like, he’s such a political refugee from himself; he is sorry for everyone, but in fact he can even find out our secrets. As they say, be afraid of Danians (Americans) who bring gifts ...
    1. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 1 July 2013 07: 46 New
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      So that he can reveal our secrets, first we must allow him to these secrets.
      Otherwise, what can he know about Russia while in Russia?
      So this is nonsense.
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 1 July 2013 07: 53 New
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        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        So that he can reveal our secrets, first we must allow him to these secrets.
        Otherwise, what can he know about Russia while in Russia?
        So this is nonsense.

        Like what??? - Matreshka, vodka, balalaika, bear. EEEEEE - like everything.
        1. Nicholas C.
          Nicholas C. 1 July 2013 07: 58 New
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          There is no point in giving Snowden to America. In the 90s, America was given everything and everything. So what? Was America or the rest of the world respecting Russia after that?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 1 July 2013 08: 02 New
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            Quote: Nikolay S.
            There is no point in giving Snowden to America. In the 90s, America was given everything and everything. So what? Was America or the rest of the world respecting Russia after that?

            They will soon forget about him in the USA. It is not too familiar humiliation for the United States that someone who does not give them to someone. They will simply forget everything in the US media themselves, and the fact that they will talk about Snowden all over the world will not matter.
            1. Refund_SSSR
              Refund_SSSR 1 July 2013 08: 05 New
              13
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              They will soon forget about him in the USA.

              To do this, America must begin to think soberly, which is not expected.
              Since the hype around this name we owe the stupidest American reaction.

              And what did they threaten us with? Complications when handling the Navy ?! Is this the US then? who stand with one foot in front of a financial collapse and a fall in credit ratings?
              But after such statements, it should already be a matter of honor for the United States to return Sowden, because after such intimidations, the next time more than one muscle will not flinch at their threats.

              So it’s too late to cut their back ... You cannot return what was said.
              1. Romn
                Romn 1 July 2013 09: 32 New
                +5
                It would be indicative and very effective to give him the opportunity to stay in Russia, although this is partly risky. But it will work very sobering for the United States in particular!
              2. kavkaz8888
                kavkaz8888 1 July 2013 09: 51 New
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                "But after such statements, it should already be a matter of honor for the United States to return Sowden,"


                Yusa and Honor ??? Do not tell my horseshoes.
                1. Che
                  Che 7 July 2013 18: 19 New
                  0
                  The Phasington Regional Committee in something brown with a smell got dirty. wassat There were dissidents, yes they were always, cleaned them on time. Snowden managed to escape, as he knew the kitchen from the inside. Chapman offers a hand and a heart; Snowden seize the moment. love
            2. Canep
              Canep 1 July 2013 09: 07 New
              +5
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              They will soon forget about him in the USA.

              Now Americans need to think not about how to flog Snowden, but about how to launder themselves from this shit. If you forget about it, it’s like in a joke: “it dries up - it will fall off itself,” but this guy is unlikely to allow that they would forget about him, because he did not drain everything. We will wait for the development.
            3. Tersky
              Tersky 1 July 2013 09: 22 New
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              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              They will soon forget about him in the USA.

              Let them get used to, Russia Kalugina has not forgotten, your fat on musal ...
            4. Nicholas C.
              Nicholas C. 1 July 2013 09: 22 New
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              They will soon forget about him in the USA.

              Almost forgotten.

              Quote: Vadivak
              Sell, inexpensive

              Come on. They gave it for nothing. Like, for example, Shevarnadze’s vast territory of the marine zone. Naturally, the Democrats dragged the ropes for themselves as much as they could. But nothing to the state.
            5. 755962
              755962 1 July 2013 09: 56 New
              +3
              The object of surveillance and wiretapping in the United States was 38 foreign embassies and representative offices.
              http://www.itar-tass.com/c1/791071.html

              They followed and follow everyone - as the rest of the countries do. It’s just that today, in the midst of a clash of hidden world elites, it was decided to send an information wave against the United States
            6. Day 11
              Day 11 1 July 2013 10: 00 New
              +6
              He won’t be able to forget in a quick way! He brought out a too big racket. And ours won’t give it either (if only to change it).
              1. poquello
                poquello 1 July 2013 19: 18 New
                +4
                ". And so ... they will arrange him as a system administrator in some thread firmochka, there are options"

                Once again I will say - the presenter in broadcasting to America in the program "Good Moning, Democracy"
                1. redwar6
                  redwar6 2 July 2013 02: 44 New
                  +2
                  "Good Moning, democracy" doesn’t sound bad)
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 2 July 2013 23: 04 New
                    +2
                    "Good Moning, democracy" doesn't sound bad) "

                    So out of our love of the great foreign SUCH SHOWN OFF. "Partners, partners" - African hyena partners to them, all the same they will deceive, confuse.
            7. Geisenberg
              Geisenberg 1 July 2013 15: 38 New
              +4
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              They will soon forget about him in the USA. It is not too familiar humiliation for the United States that someone who does not give them to someone. They will simply forget everything in the US media themselves, and the fact that they will talk about Snowden all over the world will not matter.


              No, they will not forget. The next makain will make eyebrows a little house and scream that he will get from these gnous advice the issue of betraying the traitor of all progressive mankind, in exchange for votes naturally.
              1. sak1969
                sak1969 1 July 2013 20: 59 New
                +6
                "Snowden brought evidence, told the world the name of an eavesdropping and spying American monster - PRISM, which shed publicity on the CIA's unseemly activity - a similar act of our defector would be declared a feat in the name of humanity."
                Well, what prevents Russia from declaring that Snowden accomplished a feat in the name of mankind! ! !
                Then another makain will make eyebrows a house and mumble something not intelligible.
                Well, what can they do, kill, abduct ...
                And thereby make an icon from Snowden, the martyr of the victim for a just cause. )))
                1. Anti
                  Anti 1 July 2013 21: 30 New
                  -1
                  Betrayal, maybe someone likes, and traitors are hated by everyone.
                  M. Cervantes.
                2. Anti
                  Anti 1 July 2013 22: 27 New
                  0
                  Quote: sak1969
                  Well, what prevents Russia from declaring that Snowden has accomplished a feat in the name of humanity! ! !


                  Well, yes, of course, a "feat." And they didn’t think that they would want to repeat this “feat” in Russia too, so that they would make icons. They called them heroes and martyrs?
                  1. olegyurjewitch
                    olegyurjewitch 1 July 2013 22: 55 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Anti
                    . And they didn’t think that they would want to repeat this “feat” in Russia too, so that they would make icons. They called them heroes and martyrs?

                    In Russia, times of desidency have passed, under the guise of martyrs, to blame conscience over a hill, gazuy, and prove that democracy is crushed like lice in our country.
                    1. Anti
                      Anti 1 July 2013 23: 16 New
                      +1
                      Quote: olegyurjewitch
                      times of residency


                      The namesake, the conversation is not about dissidents, but about betrayal, I personally think that this moment with Snowden cannot be idealized, that is, elevated to the rank of heroism as many believe. He violated the oath given to his country, he is a deserter and a traitor in my understanding. Although I do not exclude that it could be a "boar" from lang lads, there are also no suckers sitting there.
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 1 July 2013 23: 30 New
                        +4
                        Betrayal of what? Country. or state machine?

                        Quote: Anti
                        He violated the oath given to his country

                        What are the oaths of a civilian technical adviser to the CIA and NSA?
                      2. Anti
                        Anti 1 July 2013 23: 41 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Spade
                        What are the oaths of a civilian technical adviser to the CIA and NSA?


                        The fact is that when taking citizenship of the United States of America, everyone is obligated to take an oath of allegiance.

                        “I hereby declare that at the time of taking the oath I absolutely and completely refuse and renounce all devotion and loyalty to any foreign ruler, monarch, country or sovereign state whose subject or citizen I was before. About that I will to support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America from all enemies, both external and internal; that I will show true fidelity and devotion to the aforementioned Constitution and laws; that I will carry out military service with arms in the interests of the United States when the law requires it; that I will do non-military service in the armed forces of the United States when the law requires it; that I will carry out work of national importance, being under the control of civilian leadership when the law requires it; and that I accept this obligation voluntarily without any mental reservation or intention to evade the above Zanny, and may God help me. "
                      3. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 1 July 2013 23: 49 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Anti
                        The fact is that when taking citizenship of the United States of America, everyone is obligated to take an oath of allegiance.

                        That is, if he is not a US citizen by birth right
                      4. Anti
                        Anti 2 July 2013 00: 17 New
                        0
                        Quote: Spade
                        That is, if he is not a US citizen by birth right


                        I found Part14.Oath of Allegaiance special N-400 profile there is the text of the oath too.
                    2. poquello
                      poquello 2 July 2013 00: 48 New
                      +3
                      “I hereby declare that at the time of taking the oath I absolutely and completely refuse and renounce all devotion and loyalty to any foreign ruler, monarch, country or sovereign state whose subject or citizen I was before. About that I will to support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America from all enemies, both external and internal; that I will show true fidelity and devotion to the aforementioned Constitution and laws "

                      Initially, he transmitted to the media information about the violation of the CIA (or anyone else) namely the US Constitution and laws. Or am I wrong?
                    3. Anti
                      Anti 2 July 2013 01: 06 New
                      +1
                      Quote: poquello
                      Initially, he transmitted to the media information about the violation of the CIA (or anyone else) namely the US Constitution and laws. Or am I wrong?

                      I agree with you that you are right. But what did he pass on to the media WAS A SECRET UNDER FAMILY LOCKS? Everyone knew and knew about it. Why hang all this on a bell.

                      For treason, the homeland needs an extreme baseness of the soul.
                      Nikolai Gavrilovich Chernyshevsky
                    4. poquello
                      poquello 2 July 2013 23: 26 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Anti
                      Quote: poquello
                      Initially, he transmitted to the media information about the violation of the CIA (or anyone else) namely the US Constitution and laws. Or am I wrong?

                      I agree with you that you are right. But what did he pass on to the media WAS A SECRET UNDER FAMILY LOCKS? Everyone knew and knew about it. Why hang all this on a bell.



                      "Brave Clarissa, tell me when the lambs stop screaming in the darkness!"
                    5. Anti
                      Anti 3 July 2013 00: 31 New
                      -1
                      Quote: poquello
                      "Brave Clarissa, tell me when the lambs stop screaming in the darkness!"


                      Once, a census agent tried to interrogate me. I ate his liver with beans and a good chianti.
                3. pavelfi
                  pavelfi 3 July 2013 00: 52 New
                  +1
                  the fact that he is a traitor, with no options. He is pleased that the United States continues to sell.
          2. Turner
            Turner 1 July 2013 23: 38 New
            +2
            But what about the Germans that before the war crossed the Bug and informed ours about the imminent attack, let Hitler consider them traitors, and for us they are good people
          3. Anti
            Anti 1 July 2013 23: 46 New
            -3
            Quote: Turner
            But what about the Germans that before the war crossed the Bug and informed ours about the imminent attack, let Hitler consider them traitors, and for us they are good people


            Those Germans already knew that they were throwing them in a pug, so they saved their skin. hi
        2. Che
          Che 4 July 2013 22: 45 New
          0
          Snowden is a hero who has popped up against their entire rotten system. I idealize mine - but we have more freedom than in the west.
        3. Cynic
          Cynic 5 July 2013 11: 09 New
          0
          Quote: Che
          Snowden hero, popper against their entire rotten system

          Purely out of harm, I’ll propose to ponder _ And why did he actually do this without arriving, for example, at the weekend, in Ecuador, Bolivia, or ...
          Why did he do just that and no other way?
          I think hanging him in the Sheremetyevo transit zone, like this in the hole, he does not make fun!
          And still, Assange.
          His seat at the embassy of Ecuador ...
          As it turned out right away, this premise does not have the right of extraterritoriality, Ecuadorians rent it, just rent it and, moreover, not everything!
          So that they would want to _ get it!
          They didn’t.
          Why? Scandal scared? And the president’s plane, which has diplomatic immunity, wasn’t afraid to march?
  2. sak1969
    sak1969 2 July 2013 22: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: Anti
    Well, yes, of course, a "feat." And they didn’t think that they would want to repeat this “feat” in Russia too, so that they would make icons. They called them heroes and martyrs?


    For life in Hawaii !?

    "This man who refused annual income of 200 thousand dollars and a prosperous life in Hawaii? What did he lack? Fame? But the glory of the CIA whistleblower is fraught with a considerable risk to life. Exchange life in Hawaii for transient fame and mortal danger? It's not fits into the heads of western inhabitants. "

    Anti You catch the difference between these two options!?
    1. Anti
      Anti 3 July 2013 00: 44 New
      -1
      Quote: sak1969
      For life in Hawaii !?

      "This man who refused annual income of 200 thousand dollars and a prosperous life in Hawaii? What did he lack? Fame? But the glory of the CIA whistleblower is fraught with a considerable risk to life. Exchange life in Hawaii for transient fame and mortal danger? It's not fits into the heads of western inhabitants. "

      You catch the Anti Difference between these two options!?


      Are you his advocate or something? For me he is a miserable and insignificant person, a traitor, so no matter how hard you try, you won’t wash a black dog up to white!
      1. valerii41
        valerii41 5 July 2013 18: 15 New
        +1
        Pan Anti Snowden surrendered agents; Alekseev, Navalny, Ponomarev Melkonyants, Udaltsov and the like.
  • piotr534
    piotr534 1 July 2013 15: 44 New
    0
    They will soon forget about him in the USA. It is not too familiar humiliation for the United States that someone who does not give them to someone. They will simply forget everything in the US media themselves, and the fact that they will talk about Snowden all over the world will not matter.
    Amers will not be able to forget about him, he himself will not allow them. Throwing more and more compromising files of the highest secrecy, he will encourage the whole world to ask the United States questions that are very unpleasant for them, to which they have no answers. That's why they are in a rage. hi
  • luka095
    luka095 2 July 2013 01: 46 New
    0
    Right If you immediately failed to return the fugitive, then you need to switch the attention of the Americans to something else, hot ...
    And about Snowden - silence.
  • Vadivak
    Vadivak 1 July 2013 08: 40 New
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    Quote: Nikolay S.
    There is no point in giving Snowden to America.


    Right It makes sense to give Serdyukov to America, under the guise of Snowden, and put it on YouTube. smile

    Quote: Nikolay S.
    In the 90s, America gave everything and everything


    Sell, inexpensive
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 1 July 2013 09: 26 New
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      Quote: Vadivak
      Right It makes sense to give Serdyukov to America,

      Vadim, good morning! Moreover, free of charge and in addition with a "magnificent" bonus - Red Tolik, it is useful for cutting the budget of their de @ democratic economy ..
      1. S-200
        S-200 1 July 2013 11: 06 New
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        with Red Tolikom the States will immediately make a nanotechnological breakthrough! And he, too, will give them energy - correct .... "as it should"! Yes, perhaps the economy is reforming ...
        I'm afraid DO NOT REACH! request
        laughing
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      2. ded10041948
        ded10041948 1 July 2013 11: 18 New
        +2
        Plagiarists! I demand copyright protection!

        ded10041948 May 9, 2013 19:34 | US Air Force officers responsible for ICBM launches suspended for poor combat readiness
        Quote: Edward72
        They would still be in the appendage of MO Serdyukov. Then there will be a full laf.
        All with the Great Victory Day!
        Yeah, dream! At first I also had fun, and then I thought for a bit and went to the lip-cutting workshop. Although, there is an idea: If you offer mattresses on a Lend-Lease Stool, you can cut a big dough. They will pay any price, only to cancel such a "delivery". It is a pity that those in power who hold such a "successful manager" will not give it to anyone. From the prosecutor’s office they dismissed and will continue to be protected. And I would like to bring at least some benefit to the Motherland!

        Although, frankly, I didn’t think about the "red destroyer"!
  • orkibotu
    orkibotu 1 July 2013 22: 21 New
    -2
    and no one will! Vova is stirring up his game which I can’t even understand! BUT I believe Vova that he knows what he is doing! Thank God ! Glory to Russia ! Glory to the King!
  • Quiet
    Quiet 1 July 2013 22: 47 New
    +5
    Viktor Anatolevich Bout (born January 13, 1967, Dushanbe, Tajik SSR) is a Russian businessman convicted in 2012 in the United States of 25 years in prison for illegal arms trade and supporting terrorism. Western media call him the “arms baron” and the “merchant of death”. US intelligence agencies consider Bout one of the largest illegal arms dealers in the world. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, in turn, calls the “Bout case” politically ordered and seeks to return Bout to Russia.

    They slandered, imprisoned, and now tantrums like women arrange. There is no such fig leaf to cover your "vaunted", stinking corpse stench of innocently killed people pseudo democracy !!!!! am
    1. olegyurjewitch
      olegyurjewitch 1 July 2013 22: 58 New
      +1
      Namely PSEUDO democracy!
  • Alexxeg73
    Alexxeg73 1 July 2013 09: 03 New
    +3
    He therefore does not get out of Sheremetyevo. He is afraid that his bearded men on bears on horseback, with PPSH and earflaps will be taken away.
    1. BARKAS
      BARKAS 1 July 2013 11: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexxeg73
      He therefore does not get out of Sheremetyevo. He is afraid that his bearded men on bears on horseback, with PPSH and earflaps will be taken away.

      No, he’s there in a capsule hotel in this very capsule being in suspended animation after 10 years, wakes up and goes out to people fellow
    2. 755962
      755962 1 July 2013 18: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: Alexxeg73
      his bearded men on bears on horseback, with PPSh and with earflaps will be taken away.


      And eyes ... look what kind of eyes they have!
    3. Quiet
      Quiet 1 July 2013 23: 31 New
      +2
      He therefore does not come out of Sheremetyevo

      Bullshit !!! There has long been wandering his make-up double (one of four - a day in the service, three at home) !!! lol . And he sings with Vova, over a glass of champagne, sad songs about scouts. laughing
  • Kuzkin Batyan
    Kuzkin Batyan 1 July 2013 12: 01 New
    0
    Russian nuclear four)))
  • Klisha
    Klisha 1 July 2013 13: 15 New
    +1
    Sovetskavazavodaplan
  • z-exit
    z-exit 1 July 2013 15: 19 New
    +2
    Quote: ed65b
    Like what??? - Matreshka, vodka, balalaika, bear. EEEEEE - like everything.


    Not all, Sheremetyevo forgot))) Will draw the Sheremetyevo plan and pass it to the Americans))
    1. Quiet
      Quiet 3 July 2013 18: 37 New
      0
      He will draw the Sheremetyevo plan and give it to the Americans))

      There a long time ago, "Trianon" (x / f "TASS authorized to declare") copied everything and sold it !!!! bully
  • Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 1 July 2013 18: 17 New
    +2
    ... bathhouse, beer, salmon and accordion. Now, like, that's all drinks
  • redwar6
    redwar6 2 July 2013 02: 40 New
    +2
    "Like what ??? - Matryoshka, vodka, balalaika, bear. EEEEE- like everything."
    But what about all the Russian nuclear reactors: Disorder !!!
  • evgen762
    evgen762 2 July 2013 22: 44 New
    0
    And the training of bears, you somehow forgot.
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  • mealnik2005
    mealnik2005 4 July 2013 20: 59 New
    0
    With earflaps !!! .... With earflaps forgotten !!!! ....):
  • rauffg
    rauffg 6 July 2013 16: 12 New
    0
    Kalashnikov !!! it's all. wink
  • Cynic
    Cynic 2 July 2013 18: 37 New
    0
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    So that he can reveal our secrets, first we must allow him to these secrets.

    Not everything is so clear.
    How old is he ?
    And who will he be and what will he know in eleven years?
    Of course, all this is a game of the mind, but ...
    While he is a hindrance to everyone, I think that he could have complicated life for his comrades-in-arms of the Yusovites more than himself.
    It is not necessary only to think that no one knew anything!
    Generally surprising recognition of these facts!
    Most likely there is a very big domestic political game and woe to the losers!
  • Very old
    Very old 1 July 2013 08: 57 New
    +3
    Well, it’s necessary ... You mean, they sent a Cossack, and ours pecked at it, you dunce. This is how they turned their pockets, and right there was a complete handful of Snowden poured secrets
    1. INTER
      INTER 1 July 2013 09: 41 New
      0
      The only moment justifying the fact of the 2nd agency may be the scenario. Snowden was sent or somehow got to Russia, supposedly then he will fly to Ecuador and here SUSHA calls to Ecuador and says fu. Further, Snowden remains in Russia, and SUSHA knowing that Russia will be firm in its positions, because we will lose face from this, as a weak state if we pass on. Further SUSHA speculates on this and represents Russia to the rest of the world as a pastor hiding ZORROO))))))) these are just my assumptions.
      1. BARKAS
        BARKAS 1 July 2013 10: 12 New
        +4
        Now the European Union is starting to make claims against the United States, so it’s better to wait until it ends. The EU can take Snowden to itself. what but it’s a fabrication, it’s still not necessary to give it to problems about the Americans; we’ve got used to it, but the loss of state’s authority will be more serious if we already know!
        1. Quiet
          Quiet 1 July 2013 23: 38 New
          +1
          maybe the EU will take Snowden to itself

          ... and give free amers !!! "Eureka" big lovers of such tricks !!!!
  • dmitrich
    dmitrich 1 July 2013 13: 50 New
    0
    he himself understood what he wrote, the thinker.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 1 July 2013 13: 57 New
      0
      I missed this comment! This is a plus wassat
  • ziqzaq
    ziqzaq 1 July 2013 15: 39 New
    +3
    Quote: Dangerous
    An unusual story, of course, with this Snowden ... Although I think that it cannot be ruled out that he can be a salvager, a double agent. Like, he’s such a political refugee from himself; he is sorry for everyone, but in fact he can even find out our secrets. As they say, be afraid of Danians (Americans) who bring gifts ...

    Think Dangerous, maybe see a doctor?

    The US State Department is demanding that Russia “promptly extradite” Edward Snowden, because in America he has been “seriously charged”, and is blackmailing him with deteriorating relations ...
    Hurry, these very relations would have worsened, otherwise it’s such a sweetheart that they will not save ......
  • s1н7т
    s1н7т 1 July 2013 21: 42 New
    +3
    Quote: Dangerous
    but in fact, we can also find out our secrets

    SW Dangerous, I laugh with you - well, what secrets do we have ?! laughing All the most secret that we have was invented in 70-80, and in the 90s it was safely drunk by Yeltsin. True, I heard that, for example, tablets with a running man painted on a pack were transferred to storage somewhere ... somewhere). But something is not heard of them in the troops. So, they also drank am
  • theadenter
    theadenter 1 July 2013 22: 46 New
    +4
    Well, yeah, the man who quarreled the United States with the EU and opened his eyes to the people of the United States is a meager.
    This guy will be torn alive in case of deportation to the USA, which, I hope, will not happen.
  • Draz
    Draz 2 July 2013 01: 25 New
    +3
    In vain minuses instructed a friend.
    In his words there is a rational kernel.
    Why did he fly specifically to Russia? Why, with the entire global surveillance system, could not track the check-in on a flight to Moscow? Why his passport was canceled in Russia, because they could wait for his departure and intercept the plane. I think that it’s all in some way a setup, it’s not necessarily the Snowden Cossack that he sent, the situation with the transit zone is HERE. If WE give him refuge, then he automatically exposes himself as a traitor and the entire halo of a fighter with the system drops from him, and without this the media “dig” incriminating evidence on him to denigrate him. The same situation will happen if we give him a green corridor to Ecuador. We do not need him, let him continue to sit in transit. This makes us neither warm nor cold. Snowden is another reason.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 2 July 2013 05: 27 New
      0
      Quote: Draz
      Why was his passport canceled in Russia

      His passport was canceled back in Hong Kong, he was traveling on the travel documents of Combodia.
      Quote: Draz
      , because they could wait for his departure and intercept the plane.

      Where to intercept, over China or Russia laughing
      Quote: Draz
      If WE give him refuge, then he automatically exposes himself as a traitor and the whole halo of a fighter with the system drops from him

      From it, the US media already make a traitor. Trying to understand your logic, but I can’t.
      Quote: Draz
      We do not need him, let him continue to sit in transit

      This is your personal opinion, the Kremlin may think otherwise
      1. Draz
        Draz 2 July 2013 09: 11 New
        0
        With the first paragraph sorted out.

        Second, the flight from Moscow to Ecuador only through the territory of Russia and China? The planned route was: Hong Kong-Moscow-Havana and further, to capture under the Belorussky in Cuba, but on the bus to Guantanomo hi

        Third, the fact of the matter is that the media is trying, but there is no good excuse. Of course we know what magicians are in the West, but not so much too loud a case.
        And Suddenly, SENSATION, Russia gave refuge, so (according to the logic of brainwashers) - a traitor, but against the freedom that he cared for so much, and for Putin, the enemy of gays (well, you understand).
        And so he is a victim of the American regime without a passport and without a residence permit, "Homeless" laughing
  • Che
    Che 3 July 2013 20: 46 New
    0
    Sorry for him, to see a good person. And ours are keeping quiet. You have to save the guy. Our rats in the west have been welcomed. They screamed all over the world. Provide political asylum and all affairs. And let him do what he can and what he wants. about the spinach - not to be allowed to the state. Business then.
  • mihailow56
    mihailow56 4 July 2013 19: 52 New
    0
    Watch a lot of espionage films dear! Be sure that RUSSIA is Great, and this low-budget series .......
  • lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 1 July 2013 07: 38 New
    18
    Meanwhile, the process launched by Snowden had already begun: France throws presents To Washington.
  • deman73
    deman73 1 July 2013 07: 45 New
    +2
    the situation is interesting
  • buzuke
    buzuke 1 July 2013 07: 48 New
    +9
    here really is impudence the second happiness. I never get surprised at the greyhounds of the American authorities
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 1 July 2013 08: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: buzuke
      I never get surprised at the greyhounds of the American authorities


      And why are you surprised, it used to be that the USSR dictated its adamant will to the entire world community, and after its sale, the roles changed
  • My address
    My address 1 July 2013 07: 51 New
    +1
    It turns out that in the picture of the blessed West a certain tundra animal appears and the meaning of this surrealism: "Arctic fox picture".
  • duchy
    duchy 1 July 2013 07: 53 New
    20
    Americans in life have been and remain two-faced "Anus" am , their life was originally based on violence, lies, demagogy and great arrogance. Almost destroying the indigenous population, leaving a tiny fraction of the natives on the reserves, showing them as in a zoo. This democracy of theirs brought millions of misfortunes to millions of people around the world. And it is better to declare Snowden to our scouts and confer the title of Hero of Russia. Let it scratch turnips. what
    1. ded10041948
      ded10041948 1 July 2013 11: 24 New
      +3
      Thought too! At the same time, the FBI will be knocked down. Such a puncture!
      1. 101
        101 1 July 2013 18: 37 New
        +2
        Krasava Our pier we do not have the right under the constitution to transfer both the citizen’s passport and the order book and certificate of secondary education immediately to present the pier, we have all the papers numbered
    2. Alew
      Alew 1 July 2013 12: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: duche
      Americans in life have been and remain two-faced "Anus" am , their life was originally based on violence, lies, demagogy and great arrogance. Almost destroying the indigenous population, leaving a tiny fraction of the natives on the reserves,

      I totally agree with you. I have had these thoughts for a long time - such as rabble from all over the world, led by the Anglo-Saxons, occupied America, the indigenous population wiped out the remains, drove them into the reservation and now the whole world is taught freedom and democracy. They have such experience. Now they are doing something similar with the rest of the world, imposing their Western “values”, pursuing a policy of expansion and the use of force for gain, and do not shun anything. Well, put this Snowden to show dirty linen so they are ready to eat it alive. And after the West warms our Judas in our country, I consider it a matter of principle to give him refuge in Russia. And about the policy of the West with respect to Russia, there are 2 good books - Project Russia - they are clearly written without an author why the West behaves in the world in such a way.
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 1 July 2013 12: 53 New
        +1
        Kamrad-completely agree with you! I also read this book (though in electronic form). How can all this be explained to young people?
      2. regsSSSR
        regsSSSR 1 July 2013 18: 27 New
        +2
        generally such books are not 2 but 4 hi
        1. Alew
          Alew 2 July 2013 09: 26 New
          0
          Quote: regressSSSR
          generally such books are not 2 but 4 hi

          There is a continuation. be sure to read book 3 and 4.
    3. olegyurjewitch
      olegyurjewitch 1 July 2013 23: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: duche
      And it’s better to declare Snowden our scouts and assign the title of Hero of Russia. Let it scratch rap

      To begin with, grant him Russian citizenship, I think it will be more expensive and more useful than Depardieu.
  • fenix57
    fenix57 1 July 2013 07: 53 New
    +9
    "The US State Department requires Russia to" without delay to extradite "Edward Snowden ....
    and blackmailing the deterioration of relations ... "
    -scared a hedgehog with a bare ass.
    And in a terrible dream, the “gentlemen” from the State Department could not dream that someone would be able to refuse them, the Gorboeltsinsky “at the expense of the times” were used to obeying, and then ... bad luck could not do anything. laughing RUSSIA is not Ecuador, you cannot lead us on the chaff. hi
    Quote: Dangerous
    but in fact, we can also find out our secrets.

    Yes, someone will let him do it.
    Quote: Dangerous
    As they say, be afraid of Danians (Americans) who bring gifts ...

    If Snowder were a "gift from the Danes" there wouldn’t be such a hysteria from Washington, too expensive and loud. hi
  • ed65b
    ed65b 1 July 2013 07: 55 New
    +5
    The State Department is the most State Department in the world. All obey. And then we will punish, stop selling dollars.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 July 2013 08: 03 New
      +5
      Quote: ed65b
      . And then we will punish, stop selling dollars.

      Let them keep them.
  • Whole
    Whole 1 July 2013 08: 16 New
    10
    The State Department is hysterical ... how wonderful it is!
  • PDM80
    PDM80 1 July 2013 08: 26 New
    +2
    Quote: Dangerous
    An unusual story, of course, with this Snowden ... Although I think that one cannot exclude the fact that he can be a salvager, a double agent.

    Well, for this, too much public relations was created around him! Hardly? The question is: why has he been sitting in Russia for so long and cannot be heard and seen ?! Either our people work with him and agree on the conditions under which he will stay, or the guy got in, no one wants to give him asylum. The main thing is that he would not be eliminated at the airport by quiet amers, a heart attack there or something else
    1. BARKAS
      BARKAS 1 July 2013 10: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: PDM80
      The main thing is that he would not be eliminated at the airport by quiet amers, a heart attack there or something else

      They will not liquidate even if he accidentally catches a cold, picks up meningitis, the mumps and horses move, this will be another blow to the amers.
      1. PDM80
        PDM80 1 July 2013 10: 20 New
        +1
        Well, they have a reputation in the world, especially now, in principle, according to FIG, but everyone else may have a warning that you can’t hide from a punishing hand, and this is in the US style
  • serg.
    serg. 555 1 July 2013 08: 27 New
    +7
    Eavesdropping, peeping. And tomorrow and the day after tomorrow they will always do this.
  • JonnyT
    JonnyT 1 July 2013 08: 34 New
    +5
    Anecdote:
    She didn’t like oral sex ... but every time she silently swallowed an insult.
    In this case, the Department of State will have to silently swallow the suture with Snowden. It will be even harder to raise the wave; it will be worse for them themselves, the snowden has many trump cards in his hand. He hadn’t done anything so serious yet. Well, think about spying because it’s all for the sake of freedom and democracy, security and prosperity .... in the end, the American media will put this situation in a different light favorable for them (blaming, for example, vile Russians)))
  • Yura
    Yura 1 July 2013 08: 36 New
    +5
    Is violation of US constitution and laws a military secret? Is Themis USA sleeping? Exposing this crime is a crime? Here it is a vivid manifestation of double morality, or rather, the manifestation of the fact that it does not exist at all, and the US Themis is not a guardian of the law, but the hand of the governing elite whose interests it covers.
  • borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 1 July 2013 08: 40 New
    0
    from the Don.
    About Snowden, Assange and a hedgehog with them, one thing can be said-: Debt by payment is red!:.
  • AVDOTYAKARLOVNA
    AVDOTYAKARLOVNA 1 July 2013 08: 41 New
    +2
    Snowden, like Depardieu, needs to be issued a passport, made plastic and sent to Siberia to engage in agriculture and cattle breeding. The State Department is generally stupefied .... let them give directions to the banana republics.
    1. vladimir VR
      vladimir VR 1 July 2013 11: 14 New
      0
      Ecuador has already been given. They immediately turned on the back.
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 1 July 2013 11: 27 New
        +1
        I said it right away! And then a certain pensioner tried to explain to me that Ecuador was trying to be GREAT!
    2. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 1 July 2013 14: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: AVDOTYAKARLOVNA
      send to Siberia to engage in agriculture and cattle breeding.

      They say he is a good geek. That is to draw him to the appropriate work, without admitting, however, to serious secrets. But you never know ...
    3. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 1 July 2013 22: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: AVDOTYAKARLOVNA
      The State Department is generally stupefied .... let them give instructions

      Can you imagine how we insulted the "feelings of believers"? Today, Putin repeated again, "We have not betrayed anyone and we will not" .... And they then believed .... Such a bummer ....
  • Whale
    Whale 1 July 2013 08: 43 New
    -12
    Oh well, his snowden in his swamp lacks at least a fence
  • individual
    individual 1 July 2013 08: 45 New
    10
    USA. The first decade of the XNUMXst century can be considered a decade of unfulfilled hopes. The grandiose plans and aspirations of the great powers failed, regional entities and transnational structures. The US plans to build a unipolar world did not come true. If in the middle of the 90-hgg. The US Department of State confidently declared that America controls 191 states of the world, and President Clinton solemnly proclaimed the XNUMXst century as the "golden age" of the United States. Today, Washington has a slightly different mood.
    Hence the phenomenon of Z. Brzezinski, the protest calculations of the diplomatic post of D. Assange and the exposure of special services by E. Snowden.
    The North Atlanticists are beginning to realize that living on double standards is impossible, but they can’t do otherwise.
    That’s what their boasted “democracy” stands on the “ears”.
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 1 July 2013 08: 48 New
    +2
    Something is wrong here. The amers raised a loud hoot, usually sitting crap and not chirping. This is like another test of Russia and GDP for submission: ".. up and the tigers sat down at my feet ...". Only until tigers and mongrels, these commands are executed at a time!
  • Imperial
    Imperial 1 July 2013 08: 54 New
    +6
    They wanted to solder B. Fisher for 10 years, only because he played in the wrong place. A step to the right, a step to the left ... such is democracy.
  • Ivga_lis
    Ivga_lis 1 July 2013 09: 10 New
    +1
    Snowden, like Assange, in this sense, things are special, you can say, ideological, or idealistic, ready to suffer not in words but in deeds.

    Exposing the CIA, Snowden, like all idealists, appeals to simple human feelings of justice and fairness. In correspondence with The Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald, he took the pseudonym Verax (Latin honest).

    But it’s still not clear to me, is Snowden a well-prepared American provocation for Russia and China? Or is it still an ideological fighter? In the first case, everything becomes simple and clear. In the second ... I don’t believe something, that there are still people (especially in America) who are able to act for the ghostly ideals of conscience and justice
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 1 July 2013 13: 37 New
      14
      Provocation of what? What should appear as a result of it? We don’t give away Snowden and they ... shoot rockets at us? Introduce sanctions? What else?
      To fight (let alone start a nuclear war) - now there are no pretexts, especially the USA. Test tube waved ... then. The imposition of sanctions ... well, they recently tried. Any sanctions of theirs are ten times more painful for them than for us. In vain you do not believe in people. If honor and conscience were not torn to the light through all the fooling, if people did not want to be people against all odds, then first of all you and I would have been destroyed long ago. And secondly, civilization would have perished long ago.
      You see, our existence as organized beings in civilization is based solely on conscience. If you remove it - the interaction between people becomes completely ineffective. As we see recently, when, for example, scientific progress was completely replaced by the replacement of cell phones.
      When a filthy thief, which is now being advertised (by the same thieves) as “masters of life”, becomes a little over 3x percent of all people - social ties are distorted and cooperation between people becomes impossible. The West solved the problem by abandoning cooperation, rebuilding its society to plunder those who still have the honor. But suckers end, and the Chinese and I began to show our teeth ... However, I was distracted.
      To be honest, to suffer from injustice, to want the truth - a natural state of man. It’s wrong and unnatural to be a lie, a thief, a vile scum. No matter what the advertisement shoves you into ...
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 1 July 2013 13: 43 New
        +4
        Well said! I wouldn’t have succeeded
      2. Yura
        Yura 1 July 2013 14: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: Mikhail3
        If honor and conscience were not torn to the light through all the fooling, if people did not want to be people against all odds, then first of all you and I would have been destroyed long ago. And secondly, civilization would have perished long ago.

        Quote: Mikhail3
        To be honest, to suffer from injustice, to want the truth - a natural state of man.

        Mikhail, sometimes such thoughts also come to me, you think who and when gave, gave or instilled these qualities of self-preservation to a person, without them you are right, humanity would have long been turned into a working cattle.
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 1 July 2013 16: 45 New
          +2
          Life instilled, Yura. How to live if you do not believe anyone? Remember 90? They were so cool there ... so what? The coolest, scary, vile, most cruel and merciless back has. And how to protect her? How to sleep at all to the meanest and coolest? If no one protects your back, but you kill everything, you betray everything ... This is not life, this is death. You can live, grow, build only by trusting people, and so that they believe you ...
          1. Yura
            Yura 2 July 2013 21: 08 New
            0
            Quote: Mikhail3
            Remember the 90s?

            I remember and still remember, my age was the color, I wanted to do so much, now I just don’t have much time.
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      4. Ivga_lis
        Ivga_lis 1 July 2013 15: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: Mikhail3
        Provocation of what? What should appear as a result of it? We don’t give away Snowden and they ... shoot rockets at us? Introduce sanctions? What else?

        They won’t, of course, launch rockets - the United States has not so much tense relations with Russia and China. But as for the sanctions, perhaps, especially given the position of Russia on the Syrian issue and its still warm relations with Iran.
        Snowden just doesn’t look like such a big figure and the information from the category "divulged by him" everyone guessed, but he confirmed. In my opinion, the materials transmitted by the same Manning look much louder, but did not cause a big resonance in Europe.
        Quote: Mikhail3
        In vain you do not believe in people. If honor and conscience were not torn to the light through all the fooling, if people did not want to be people against all odds, then first of all you and I would have been destroyed long ago. And secondly, civilization would have perished long ago.

        It’s not that I don’t believe in people. But I very often see that the desire for personal gain prevails. Again, personal safety. And in order to give a damn about it and act only according to conscience and the desire for justice, one must be either a person of ideas, or a very brave person. Agree that not everyone dares to put justice above their own security.
        Quote: Mikhail3
        What we see recently, when, for example, scientific progress was completely replaced by the replacement of cell phones

        As for scientific progress - I still want to believe that mankind simply did not accumulate energy and knowledge to move to a new stage of development (for a new scientific revolution), since during the 20th century it developed very quickly, in comparison with other periods stories - nuclear energy, hydrogen, spaceflight, DNA decryption, the creation of computers and cellular communications - still a huge breakthrough, after which the accumulation of knowledge and resources for a new transition is required.
        Quote: Mikhail3
        To be honest, to suffer from injustice, to want the truth - a natural state of man. It’s wrong and unnatural to be a lie, a thief, a vile scum. No matter what the advertisement shoves you into ...

        Wrong, unnatural and vile - it’s not the person who leaves, but the cadaver, the perfect consumer. I completely agree with you, but very often I come across the fact that people set personal goals and interests above all else - it was disgusting before, then you somehow get tired of being surprised and begin to take it for granted, trying not to be like such cadavers
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 1 July 2013 16: 52 New
          +2
          They answered well, smartly and calmly, thanks. I, too, see more and more scum around me ... but this is not easy. They want to kill us. First, to destroy social ties, slow down growth, tear us into small pieces. And then kill. They do not spare anything for this, creatures ... And the worst thing is they are hoping for their next "best practices." Everything seems to them that they will live without conscience. They will bathe in power, rejoice and shout from the satisfaction of their foul passions ... They can’t discern their own death in this, the poor-minded "rulers", damn it ...
          1. Ivga_lis
            Ivga_lis 1 July 2013 20: 46 New
            +1
            Quote: Mikhail3
            They answered well, smartly and calmly, thanks.

            hi
            Quote: Mikhail3
            First, to destroy social ties, slow down growth, tear us into small pieces.

            The trouble now is that we do not have a unifying idea that could unite the people. And without this idea, which will control morality in society, we run the risk of becoming an analogue of "democratic" Europe - with gay marriages and other "delights" of liberalism. First, morality is destroyed, then “a man is wolf to man”, then “live, in order to work”, then the institution of the family is destroyed, and the result of all this can already be seen “beyond the hill”
    2. poquello
      poquello 1 July 2013 19: 52 New
      +2
      "I don’t believe something, that there are still people (especially in America) who are able to act for the sake of the ghostly ideals of conscience and justice"

      there are a lot of them and they love their country and constitution
      1. Ivga_lis
        Ivga_lis 1 July 2013 20: 31 New
        +1
        Well, despite the fact that the actions of the American government (which protects the constitution) often diverge from issues of conscience and universal values
        1. poquello
          poquello 3 July 2013 00: 04 New
          +2
          "Well, despite the fact that the actions of the American government (which protects the constitution) often diverge from issues of conscience and universal values"

          Perhaps I agree, the United States has a constitutional constitution.
      2. olegyurjewitch
        olegyurjewitch 1 July 2013 23: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: poquello
        capable of acting for the ghostly ideals of conscience and justice "

        there are a lot of them and they love their country and constitution

        They are afraid of their state! The constitution gives imaginary freedoms, the apparatus for suppressing dissent in the United States is too strong, hence the love.
  • nickname 1 and 2
    nickname 1 and 2 1 July 2013 09: 11 New
    +1
    This is not the first bird. There was Angela Davis, there was a professor (I do not remember the name — I was starving under the White House), etc. This is not a sign of society’s awakening. Stripes are very obese and heavily zombified. There was a confidence in exclusivity. This must be knocked out by a great disaster.
    So there is no hope for a speedy recovery of minke whales.
    1. S-200
      S-200 2 July 2013 07: 58 New
      0
      Dr. Hyder? hi in the days of the hunchback ...
  • Valery-SPB
    Valery-SPB 1 July 2013 09: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: Dangerous
    An unusual story, of course, with this Snowden ... Although I think that one cannot exclude the fact that he can be a salvager, a double agent.


    Of course, he does not find out secrets, and he is not a double agent. But the fact that he may be a loser - I do not exclude it.

    I remember L.Kh. Oswald. Before President Kennedy was removed with his help, he also ended up in the USSR as an opponent of the American way of life. And the "Russian trace" was formed in dirty history.
  • Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 1 July 2013 09: 19 New
    0
    Quote: Alexxeg73
    He therefore does not get out of Sheremetyevo. He is afraid that his bearded men on bears on horseback, with PPSH and earflaps will be taken away.

    what? you can live in the airport. If it’s good. One dude has lived for 20 years. / I forgot - where, but - fact / -
    and in general - exchange Snowden-for-Batman. In the morning-Snowden, in the evening-Batman.
    Will be a drone
  • Son
    Son 1 July 2013 09: 23 New
    0
    Was there a boy ..? But is it really that he flew to Sheremetyevo ..?
    Darling, sir ... It smacks of history with the "elusive" Bonei Laden ...
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 1 July 2013 09: 40 New
    0
    Well, it turns out, I knew the "secrets" of the CIA, the NSA and the State Department, that they had been "tackling" the whole world about 5 years ago, I had to rummage around in the memory and maybe the keys to launch American nuclear rockets would pop up. Snowden, thanks cap.
    1. S-200
      S-200 2 July 2013 08: 04 New
      0
      Quote: Standard Oil
      rummaging around in memory maybe the keys to launch American nuclear rockets pop up. Snowden, thanks cap.

      the keys are constantly on the missile duty officer
      but the launch codes - periodically or unplannedly change ... hi
  • Unknown
    Unknown 1 July 2013 09: 44 New
    +1
    Bravo Snowden !!!!
  • harrymur
    harrymur 1 July 2013 10: 11 New
    +5
    video on the topic ex-CIA director Michael Hayden
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 1 July 2013 10: 40 New
      0
      Thanks for the video! It was very interesting to listen!
  • ed65b
    ed65b 1 July 2013 10: 14 New
    0
    Snowden in Russia is the same kind of balm scented by Russophobia American senators. McCain already in all the churches, churches and synagogues around the Senate, put candles for the snowden and ordered prayers for the healthy ones. sit dear in the Sharik, or else they started to forget about me. And I sleep peacefully and say the word in the Senate.
  • Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 1 July 2013 10: 14 New
    +6
    The states have gone too far so that it has already begun to crack. Comrades bourgeois, I wish you the same that you arranged for us in the 90s
  • papss
    papss 1 July 2013 10: 20 New
    0
    As if in fact with Snowden, agent 2-0, or a person who refused 200.000 a year, is glad that what is happening in the world, quote
    At the same time, he unwittingly destroys the bright image of American democracy, revealing its terrible secret: behind a decent facade lies global surveillance of the world and its own citizens. Any historian will tell you that this is the first and obligatory step towards dictatorship, that is, the image of the USA in the world has been greatly damaged. Hence the hysteria of the State Department ...

    I just do not agree, not involuntarily what I deserve ... moreover, if we had similar facts as a general betrayal of the elites ... then the point is really in an appeal to simple human feelings ... justice and honesty ... and it's good that such people there is
  • Sochi
    Sochi 1 July 2013 10: 31 New
    0
    Look how they ran in ... And business, people didn’t disclose a not-so-secret information. All special services of the world know about this, well, and who is not an exalted idealist, understands perfectly well that everyone is watching everyone ... Apparently in Tanya, against the background of a fall in their power and authority, this person overflowed a cup of patience ...
  • KononAV
    KononAV 1 July 2013 10: 35 New
    +1
    My uncle has the most honest rules. From this series
  • Andrey77
    Andrey77 1 July 2013 10: 44 New
    0
    As an "informant" Snowden no - "America has not discovered." :) Question - why did you run? Option 1 - an ideological fighter with the system (a dissident, as we would call it). Option 2 is a US ambassador. There is a third option - the person went to the roof. We make bets.
    1. Cat
      Cat 1 July 2013 10: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: Andrey77
      As an "informant" Snowden no - "America has not discovered." :) Question - why did you run? Option 1 - an ideological fighter with the system (a dissident, as we would call it). Option 2 is a US ambassador. There is a third option - the person went to the roof. We make bets.

      There is a fourth option: the European bureaucrats, for some reason, decided to slow down the negotiations on a transatlantic free trade zone. And they threw a gorgeous occasion - wiretapping by the Yankees of European politicians, the brawl is still what kind of negotiations are there. The version has the right to life, since it is very doubtful that every single European intelligence agency would suddenly become blind and not be able to detect the outrages created by the amers.
      The fifth option is the cunning Chinese, who are terrified of how beneficial it is to quarrel the United States and the European Union. And already someone, and there are enough specialists in hacking this and that in China =)
      1. S-200
        S-200 2 July 2013 08: 06 New
        0
        Quote: Cat
        The fifth option is the cunning Chinese, who are terrified of how beneficial it is to quarrel the United States and the European Union. And already someone, and there are enough specialists in hacking this and that in China =)

        hi Autumn is a smelter, tavalYssa Cat!
    2. Day 11
      Day 11 1 July 2013 10: 56 New
      0
      Option number 1! Ruble for a hundred!
    3. Whale
      Whale 1 July 2013 11: 01 New
      -4
      I agree with option 2
      the body runs and screams there bad and terrible
      and all in 1 vote yes yes yes ha ha ha ju ju ju
      and as a result, the well-known infa is merged
      but essentially a disaster in something else behind the scenes
  • krez-74
    krez-74 1 July 2013 10: 44 New
    +1
    Once, at the beginning, the USA was really a country of freedom and the embodiment of hopes! It’s a pity, but it turned into another empire, which lost touch with the earth, and this is fraught with a fall!
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 1 July 2013 10: 49 New
      -1
      For a simple citizen, the United States is truly a land of freedom. Restrictions begin when taking a more or less high post in the civil service. But this is the case everywhere. You have to pay for access to secrets.
      1. poquello
        poquello 1 July 2013 20: 16 New
        +2
        "For a simple citizen, the United States is truly a land of freedom."

        Please list the freedoms.
      2. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 1 July 2013 23: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: Andrey77
        For a simple citizen of the United States is truly a country of freedom.

        Well, except that in kindergarten they will believe that even in the younger group.
      3. olegyurjewitch
        olegyurjewitch 1 July 2013 23: 24 New
        +1
        Quote: Andrey77
        For a simple citizen, the United States is truly a land of freedom.

        There are butterflies, there is freedom.
  • Opera
    Opera 1 July 2013 10: 54 New
    +1
    As repeatedly noted by Snowden, a technical officer. This is a very broad concept, so the damage to the United States is not only moral and I doubt very much that this guy is sitting at the airport right now!
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 1 July 2013 10: 59 New
      0
      You are doing the right thing that you doubt it! It has long been in a different place. I won’t say a military secret!
    2. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 1 July 2013 23: 13 New
      0
      Quote: Oper
      I doubt very much

      They are right that you doubt it. Anyone needs to eat something, go to the toilet, sorry for the details, you need to go to the hotel more than once a day. There is no capsule hotel that guarantees security. You will have to contact someone to buy at least a pie in the buffet .... So your nickname is quite consistent ....
  • shinobi
    shinobi 1 July 2013 10: 54 New
    +1
    Most likely, Snowden found out something for which he would not be allowed to spend money, but it had nothing to do with the security of the United States. It’s a private secret of a very important group of bureaucrats of the State Department. Well, the Yankees are watching everyone, damn the news too. Old for some reason can’t, so there are two options left, or rather two in one. It will light up in the media as brightly as possible and hide. What he did. In Sheremetyevo he most likely is no longer hi
  • morpogr
    morpogr 1 July 2013 11: 07 New
    +2
    How pitiful the poor Europeans are now, they serve the master faithfully, and he did not trust them and spied and listened and still mocked and scoffed at them. And Snowden probably already somewhere in a boarding house near Moscow is preparing a new reset of compromising materials under sensitive new leadership.
  • Kushadasov
    Kushadasov 1 July 2013 11: 34 New
    +2
    You might think of Geyrop and everyone else did not realize that Big Brother was following them. Just the situation with Snowden gave everyone an occasion to say it out loud and resent)))
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 1 July 2013 23: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Kushadasov
      and everyone else had no idea

      Well, you know ... guessing and KNOW are different things. You can guess about anything-for example, the husband / wife’s infidelity ... But knowing is a completely different matter. And the decisions as a result of guesses and knowledge will also be different.
  • radio operator
    radio operator 1 July 2013 11: 56 New
    +3
    Now we can poke the "Snowden list" in the West’s nose.
    It would be nice to shelter him in Russia. It’s a painfully symbolic figure.
    It’s a pity if they surrender it to the States.
    1. shamil
      shamil 1 July 2013 12: 15 New
      +2
      No one will give it away! such a valuable frame
      1. Slav
        Slav 21 July 2013 11: 09 New
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        Quote: shamil
        No one will give it away! such a valuable frame

        It would be great!
  • shamil
    shamil 1 July 2013 12: 00 New
    0
    Yes! the geyropa was frightened for her private conversations on the phone that the whole world would find out about their nasty conversations. And the enemy and the Americans didn’t treat them like I couldn’t miss the words anyway
  • shamil
    shamil 1 July 2013 12: 12 New
    +3
    Putin well done! in an interview, what, he is a transit passenger, he didn’t violate the borders of Russia, there’s nothing for us to detain him; he’s probably walking somewhere at the airport, look, he says
  • Letterksi
    Letterksi 1 July 2013 12: 27 New
    +1
    There is no need to give it away. Or let them change to Buta. So how to judge a Russian citizen who didn’t even enter America, it’s always welcome. And as far as the interests of the states are concerned, it is necessary to give immediately. Let him calmly go to his Ecuador or exchange for Buta.
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 1 July 2013 23: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: LetterKsi
      exchange for Buta.

      An exchange is possible if the figures are approximately equivalent, that is, we would have detained a person convicted of a crime against Russia (we will leave the question of Bout's "guilty" outside the brackets), convicted him by our court, and then exchanged for his convicted person in America. it’s not good to change a person who is looking for protection from America. Who will believe us another time then? Who will want to cooperate, fearing that they will exchange it and a kirdyk will come to him there?
  • Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 1 July 2013 13: 21 New
    +2
    Let the State Department choke in its rage !! .... the last scumbags ..... and let them feel in their own skin how to neglect the opinion of RUSSIA. To hell with them and not with Snowden .... go to him already they printed a Russian passport .... well done guy.
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 1 July 2013 23: 25 New
      0
      Quote: Grigorich 1962
      Russian passport printed.

      Edik Snegov ........
  • vladimir VR
    vladimir VR 1 July 2013 13: 23 New
    +1
    Ecuador turned on the back after a call from Fashington, now the move is after Russia. I hope we will be on top.
  • shamil
    shamil 1 July 2013 13: 29 New
    0
    It seems to me that Russia was not at that time when she was told what tune to sing under. We will all be a grandfather!
  • NKVD
    NKVD 1 July 2013 13: 34 New
    0
    What can these require there? And the chairman of the KGB general Kalugin, who is hiding in the United States? And the amers do not give him to us ??? am
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 1 July 2013 13: 38 New
      +2
      This bastard under the name Kalugin still live? Not an order!
      1. poquello
        poquello 1 July 2013 20: 22 New
        +2
        "This bastard under the name Kalugin still live? Not an order!"

        It’s like an ice ax is crying.
  • ramzes1776
    ramzes1776 1 July 2013 14: 00 New
    +5
    Quote: duche
    Americans in life have been and remain two-faced "Anus" am, their life was originally based on violence, lies, demagogy and great arrogance

    They generally need to be declared to the whole world an "evil empire" (as in 1983 Reagan spoke about the USSR).
    1. poquello
      poquello 1 July 2013 20: 26 New
      +2
      "They generally need to be declared to the whole world an" evil empire "(as Reagan spoke out about the USSR in 1983)"

      Police gendarme of the world and his people.
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 1 July 2013 14: 06 New
    +5
    To the depths of his soul, that mentor, impudent tone with which the ruling pack of the USA is trying to talk with Russia is outraged. The states themselves are teeming with traitors from the Russian special services. At least one has been issued to Russia? No matter how. The Americans themselves are very fond of speculating about freedom, democracy, and supporting dissidents in other countries. And then they had their own dissident - Snowden. And what a tantrum began! What gentlemen the Yankees do not like when "his" dissident merges information about the unseemly actions of American intelligence against even their allies. Swallow these bitter pills and dare not teach us democracy. No erysipelas.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 1 July 2013 14: 13 New
      0
      Now gentlemen from the analytical department of the CIA are trying to understand your idea!
  • Farik
    Farik 1 July 2013 14: 11 New
    +1
    Quote: kavkaz8888
    "But after such statements, it should already be a matter of honor for the United States to return Sowden,"

    If we push, what the hell will they do to us. They will grit their teeth and die out, as with Georgia.
  • MG42
    MG42 1 July 2013 14: 17 New
    +4
    Edward Snowden had a salary of about $ 200 a year, living in Hawaii, working in a friendly team of 000 NSA rumors, and still could not stand the hypocrisy of the United States with which he had to work while digging in dirty linen .. fellow
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 1 July 2013 14: 21 New
      0
      Good sys-admins are also needed in Gazprom! I don’t think that people have lost much
      1. MG42
        MG42 1 July 2013 14: 24 New
        +2
        Naturally, he doesn’t have it in the terminal, no one will give it away from him until all the information is given, he watched Putin’s speech = he is clearly not set to give it away, at least for now ..
        1. Tverichanka
          Tverichanka 1 July 2013 23: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: MG42
          Putin = he is clearly not set to give out, at least for now ..

          Not "yet," but never! Putin emphasized this - "Russia has never betrayed anyone and will continue to do this as well."
          1. MG42
            MG42 2 July 2013 00: 28 New
            +2
            Quote: Tverichanka
            Putin emphasized this - "Russia has never betrayed anyone and will continue to do this too

            He said so ... I rewrote literally >> we can issue some citizens of foreign states only to states with which we have relevant international agreements on extradition of criminals, we do not have such an agreement with the USA >>
            Below is the video
          2. MG42
            MG42 2 July 2013 01: 18 New
            +3
            Tverichanka, maybe you have another video ???? Once again reviewed where Putin says <never>?
            Here is another word for word >>> Mr. Snowden = a free man, the sooner he chooses the end point of his stay, the better for us and for him.
            1. MG42
              MG42 2 July 2013 01: 44 New
              0
              Okay, you don’t want to answer = don’t, be careful, <never say never> this phrase is remembered and the movie was like that. Good night. wink
    2. Zhenya-1
      Zhenya-1 1 July 2013 14: 23 New
      -1
      The act of a real man.