There are dissidents in the West.

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The US State Department is demanding that Russia “extradite” Edward Snowden, because in America “serious accusations” are brought against him, and he is blackmailing with a deterioration of relations ... There are two striking facts about this American demarche. First of all, the memory of the States was utterly discouraged: they kind of forgotten how many of our turncoats who committed serious crimes against Russia took refuge in the USA, and are still hiding there. Secondly, it is striking hysteria in which the State Department falls at the mere mention of the name of Snowden.

Although the damage that he caused the United States, very specific. The secrets of the military-industrial complex and the actual reconnaissance vehicle of the USA, the usual reconnaissance targets of the whole world, this time did not suffer at all. Snowden made publicly what everyone had guessed about before, and the competent authorities of other countries knew for sure: the United States carries out global electronic surveillance all over the world, including itself.

Snowden brought evidence of this, told the world the name of the eavesdropping and peeping American monster - PRISM, which would shed publicity on the unseemly activities of the CIA - a similar act of our defector would be declared a feat in the name of humanity.

The CIA exposer of Snowden, Washington declared no less than "the enemy of the West." Many people understand the inadequacy of such a reaction even in America, and public opinion begins to support Snowden, who has shown loyalty "towards humanity" ...

Why was the State Department so scared? Snowden effect, domino effect. Snowden is the second, if not the third, swallow that has flown in a dangerous direction. The US has not yet dealt with Julian Assange, the whistleblower of American diplomacy, how Snowden appears ... The natural question arises: who is next? And then the public fronde looms on the horizon ... Under the killer slogan: government search-ditches rummage through our underwear, they all have dirty hands ... Therefore, Snowden is declared an "enemy of the West", and the United States demands his exemplary flogging - to intimidate other snowmen.

But there is a more important circumstance. “Who is Snowden?” This question is asked today by all analysts in the West. What is a person who has refused 200 annual income in thousands of dollars and a wealthy life in Hawaii? What did he lack? Glory? But the fame of the CIA whistleblower is associated with considerable risk to life. To exchange life in Hawaii for fleeting fame and mortal danger? It does not fit in the heads of the western inhabitants.

Although the answer to this question is not so difficult, perhaps, just afraid to answer. All this is vaguely reminiscent of ... Well, yes, the Soviet dissidents. True, with one significant difference: they also exposed, and risked, but, with a certain share of luck, could count on life in Hawaii, or at least in the city of Paris. Snowden, like Assange, in this sense, the features are special, one might say, ideological, or idealistic, ready to suffer not in word but in deed. Assange is already under house arrest at the Ecuadorian embassy in London, Snowden is in the customs zone in Moscow. Such people appear when the moral atmosphere in society becomes quite depressing.

Exposing the CIA, Snowden, like all idealists, appeals to simple human feelings of justice and fairness. In correspondence with The Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald, he took the pseudonym Verax (Latin honest).

At the same time, he unwittingly destroys the bright image of American democracy, revealing its terrible secret: behind a decent facade lies global surveillance of the world and its own citizens. Any historian will tell you that this is the first and obligatory step towards dictatorship, that is, the image of the USA in the world has been greatly damaged. Hence the hysteria of the State Department ...

The guards of American democracy this time faced a problem that was formulated back in ancient Rome: "Watchmen must be kept safe." It arises in a period of decline and decay of empires, the Roman Empire failed to cope with it ...
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  1. -30
    1 July 2013 07: 37
    An unusual story, of course, with this Snowden ... Although I think that it cannot be ruled out that he can be a salvager, a double agent. Like, he’s such a political refugee from himself; he is sorry for everyone, but in fact he can even find out our secrets. As they say, be afraid of Danians (Americans) who bring gifts ...
    1. +61
      1 July 2013 07: 46
      So that he can reveal our secrets, first we must allow him to these secrets.
      Otherwise, what can he know about Russia while in Russia?
      So this is nonsense.
      1. ed65b
        +15
        1 July 2013 07: 53
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        So that he can reveal our secrets, first we must allow him to these secrets.
        Otherwise, what can he know about Russia while in Russia?
        So this is nonsense.

        Like what??? - Matreshka, vodka, balalaika, bear. EEEEEE - like everything.
        1. +37
          1 July 2013 07: 58
          There is no point in giving Snowden to America. In the 90s, America was given everything and everything. So what? Was America or the rest of the world respecting Russia after that?
          1. +13
            1 July 2013 08: 02
            Quote: Nikolai S.
            There is no point in giving Snowden to America. In the 90s, America was given everything and everything. So what? Was America or the rest of the world respecting Russia after that?

            They will soon forget about him in the USA. It is not too familiar humiliation for the United States that someone who does not give them to someone. They will simply forget everything in the US media themselves, and the fact that they will talk about Snowden all over the world will not matter.
            1. +13
              1 July 2013 08: 05
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              They will soon forget about him in the USA.

              To do this, America must begin to think soberly, which is not expected.
              Since the hype around this name we owe the stupidest American reaction.

              And what did they threaten us with? Complications when handling the Navy ?! Is this the US then? who stand with one foot in front of a financial collapse and a fall in credit ratings?
              But after such statements, it should already be a matter of honor for the United States to return Sowden, because after such intimidations, the next time more than one muscle will not flinch at their threats.

              So it’s too late to cut their back ... You cannot return what was said.
              1. +5
                1 July 2013 09: 32
                It would be indicative and very effective to give him the opportunity to stay in Russia, although this is partly risky. But it will work very sobering for the United States in particular!
              2. kavkaz8888
                +21
                1 July 2013 09: 51

                "But after such statements, it should already be a matter of honor for the United States to return Souden,"


                Yusa and Honor ??? Do not tell my horseshoes.
                1. Che
                  Che
                  0
                  7 July 2013 18: 19
                  The Phasington Regional Committee in something brown with a smell got dirty. wassat There were dissidents, yes they were always, cleaned them on time. Snowden managed to escape, as he knew the kitchen from the inside. Chapman offers a hand and a heart; Snowden seize the moment. love
            2. +5
              1 July 2013 09: 07
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              They will soon forget about him in the USA.

              Now Americans need to think not about how to whip Snowden, but about how to get rid of this crap. If you forget about him, then it’s like in a joke: "it dries up - fall off by itself," but this guy is unlikely to allow that they would forget about him, he did not merge everything. Let's wait for development.
            3. +15
              1 July 2013 09: 22
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              They will soon forget about him in the USA.

              Let them get used to, Russia Kalugina has not forgotten, your fat on musal ...
            4. +2
              1 July 2013 09: 22
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              They will soon forget about him in the USA.

              Almost forgotten.

              Quote: Vadivak
              Sell, inexpensive

              Come on. They gave it for nothing. Like, for example, Shevarnadze’s vast territory of the marine zone. Naturally, the Democrats dragged the ropes for themselves as much as they could. But nothing to the state.
            5. 755962
              +3
              1 July 2013 09: 56
              The object of surveillance and wiretapping in the United States was 38 foreign embassies and representative offices.
              http://www.itar-tass.com/c1/791071.html

              They followed and follow everyone - as the rest of the countries do. It’s just that today, in the midst of a clash of hidden world elites, it was decided to send an information wave against the United States
            6. +6
              1 July 2013 10: 00
              He won’t be able to forget in a quick way! He brought out a too big racket. And ours won’t give it either (if only to change it).
              1. +4
                1 July 2013 19: 18
                ". And so ... they will arrange him as a sysadmin in some thread, there are options."

                I will say it again - to the presenters in broadcasting to America in the program "Good Morning, Democracy"
                1. redwar6
                  +2
                  2 July 2013 02: 44
                  Good Morning Democracy doesn't sound bad)
                  1. +2
                    2 July 2013 23: 04
                    "Good Morning Democracy doesn't sound bad)"

                    Duc won ours from great foreign love SUCH A SHOW FALSE. "Partners, partners" - African hyenas are their partners, they will still deceive, confuse.
            7. +4
              1 July 2013 15: 38
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              They will soon forget about him in the USA. It is not too familiar humiliation for the United States that someone who does not give them to someone. They will simply forget everything in the US media themselves, and the fact that they will talk about Snowden all over the world will not matter.


              No, they will not forget. The next makain will make eyebrows a little house and scream that he will get from these gnous advice the issue of betraying the traitor of all progressive mankind, in exchange for votes naturally.
              1. +6
                1 July 2013 20: 59
                "Snowden brought evidence, told the world the name of the eavesdropping and peeping American monster - PRISM, which shed publicity on the unseemly activities of the CIA - a similar act of our defector would be declared a feat in the name of humanity."
                Well, what prevents Russia from declaring that Snowden accomplished a feat in the name of mankind! ! !
                Then another makain will make eyebrows a house and mumble something not intelligible.
                Well, what can they do, kill, abduct ...
                And thereby make an icon from Snowden, the martyr of the victim for a just cause. )))
                1. Anti
                  -1
                  1 July 2013 21: 30
                  Betrayal, maybe someone likes, and traitors are hated by everyone.
                  M. Cervantes.
                2. Anti
                  0
                  1 July 2013 22: 27
                  Quote: sak1969
                  Well, what prevents Russia from declaring that Snowden has accomplished a feat in the name of humanity! ! !


                  Well, yes, of course "feat". Didn't you think that they would like to repeat this "feat" in Russia, so that icons would be made of them. They called them heroes and martyrs?
                  1. +2
                    1 July 2013 22: 55
                    Quote: Anti
                    ... Didn't you think that they would like to repeat this "feat" in Russia, so that icons would be made of them. They called them heroes and martyrs?

                    In Russia, times of desidency have passed, under the guise of martyrs, to blame conscience over a hill, gazuy, and prove that democracy is crushed like lice in our country.
                    1. Anti
                      +1
                      1 July 2013 23: 16
                      Quote: olegyurjewitch
                      times of residency


                      Namesake, the conversation is not about dissidents, but about betrayal, I personally believe that this moment with Snowden cannot be idealized, that is, elevated to the rank of heroism, as many believe. He broke the oath given to his country, he is a defector and a traitor in my understanding. Although I do not exclude that it may be a "hog", from the lads from Langley, there are also not suckers sitting there.
                      1. +4
                        1 July 2013 23: 30
                        Betrayal of what? Country. or state machine?

                        Quote: Anti
                        He violated the oath given to his country

                        What are the oaths of a civilian technical adviser to the CIA and NSA?
                      2. Anti
                        +2
                        1 July 2013 23: 41
                        Quote: Spade
                        What are the oaths of a civilian technical adviser to the CIA and NSA?


                        The fact is that when taking citizenship of the United States of America, everyone is obligated to take an oath of allegiance.

                        "I hereby declare that at the time of taking the oath, I absolutely and completely renounce and renounce all loyalty and allegiance to any foreign ruler, monarch, country or sovereign state of which I was a subject or citizen before. support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America from all enemies, both external and internal; that I will show true loyalty and loyalty to the above Constitution and the laws; that I will carry out military service in the interests of the United States with arms in my hands when required by law; that I will do non-combatant service in the United States military when required by law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian authority when required by law; and that I undertake this obligation voluntarily without any mental reservation or intention to evade the above know, and God help me. "
                      3. +1
                        1 July 2013 23: 49
                        Quote: Anti
                        The fact is that when taking citizenship of the United States of America, everyone is obligated to take an oath of allegiance.

                        That is, if he is not a US citizen by birth right
                      4. Anti
                        0
                        2 July 2013 00: 17
                        Quote: Spade
                        That is, if he is not a US citizen by birth right


                        I found Part14.Oath of Allegaiance special N-400 profile there is the text of the oath too.
                      5. +3
                        2 July 2013 00: 48
                        "I hereby declare that at the time of taking the oath, I absolutely and completely renounce and renounce all loyalty and allegiance to any foreign ruler, monarch, country or sovereign state of which I was a subject or citizen before. support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America from all enemies, both external and internal; that I will show true loyalty and loyalty to the aforementioned Constitution and laws "

                        Initially, he transmitted to the media information about the violation of the CIA (or anyone else) namely the US Constitution and laws. Or am I wrong?
                      6. Anti
                        +1
                        2 July 2013 01: 06
                        Quote: poquello
                        Initially, he transmitted to the media information about the violation of the CIA (or anyone else) namely the US Constitution and laws. Or am I wrong?

                        I agree with you that you are right. But what did he pass on to the media WAS A SECRET UNDER FAMILY LOCKS? Everyone knew and knew about it. Why hang all this on a bell.

                        For treason, the homeland needs an extreme baseness of the soul.
                        Nikolai Gavrilovich Chernyshevsky
                      7. +1
                        2 July 2013 23: 26
                        Quote: Anti
                        Quote: poquello
                        Initially, he transmitted to the media information about the violation of the CIA (or anyone else) namely the US Constitution and laws. Or am I wrong?

                        I agree with you that you are right. But what did he pass on to the media WAS A SECRET UNDER FAMILY LOCKS? Everyone knew and knew about it. Why hang all this on a bell.



                        "Brave Clarissa, tell me when the lambs stop screaming in the dark!"
                      8. Anti
                        -1
                        3 July 2013 00: 31
                        Quote: poquello
                        "Brave Clarissa, tell me when the lambs stop screaming in the dark!"


                        Once, a census agent tried to interrogate me. I ate his liver with beans and a good chianti.
                      9. pavelfi
                        +1
                        3 July 2013 00: 52
                        the fact that he is a traitor, with no options. He is pleased that the United States continues to sell.
                      10. +2
                        1 July 2013 23: 38
                        But what about the Germans that before the war crossed the Bug and informed ours about the imminent attack, let Hitler consider them traitors, and for us they are good people
                      11. Anti
                        -3
                        1 July 2013 23: 46
                        Quote: Turner
                        But what about the Germans that before the war crossed the Bug and informed ours about the imminent attack, let Hitler consider them traitors, and for us they are good people


                        Those Germans already knew that they were throwing them in a pug, so they saved their skin. hi
                      12. Che
                        Che
                        0
                        4 July 2013 22: 45
                        Snowden is a hero who has popped up against their entire rotten system. I idealize mine - but we have more freedom than in the west.
                      13. 0
                        5 July 2013 11: 09
                        Quote: Che
                        Snowden hero, popper against their entire rotten system

                        Purely out of harm, I’ll propose to ponder _ And why did he actually do this without arriving, for example, at the weekend, in Ecuador, Bolivia, or ...
                        Why did he do just that and no other way?
                        I think hanging him in the Sheremetyevo transit zone, like this in the hole, he does not make fun!
                        And still, Assange.
                        His seat at the embassy of Ecuador ...
                        As it turned out right away, this premise does not have the right of extraterritoriality, Ecuadorians rent it, just rent it and, moreover, not everything!
                        So that they would want to _ get it!
                        They didn’t.
                        Why? Scandal scared? And the president’s plane, which has diplomatic immunity, wasn’t afraid to march?
                  2. +1
                    2 July 2013 22: 39
                    Quote: Anti
                    Well, yes, of course "feat". Didn't you think that they would like to repeat this "feat" in Russia, so that icons would be made of them. They called them heroes and martyrs?


                    For life in Hawaii !?

                    "This man, who gave up on an annual income of $ 200 and a wealthy life in Hawaii? What did he lack? Fame? But the fame of the CIA whistle-blower comes with a considerable risk to his life. Trading life in Hawaii for fleeting fame and mortal danger? This is not fits into the heads of Western inhabitants. "

                    Anti You catch the difference between these two options!?
                    1. Anti
                      -1
                      3 July 2013 00: 44
                      Quote: sak1969
                      For life in Hawaii !?

                      "This man, who gave up on an annual income of $ 200 and a wealthy life in Hawaii? What did he lack? Fame? But the fame of the CIA whistle-blower comes with a considerable risk to his life. Trading life in Hawaii for fleeting fame and mortal danger? This is not fits into the heads of Western inhabitants. "

                      You catch the Anti Difference between these two options!?


                      Are you his advocate or something? For me he is a miserable and insignificant person, a traitor, so no matter how hard you try, you won’t wash a black dog up to white!
                      1. valerii41
                        +1
                        5 July 2013 18: 15
                        Pan Anti Snowden surrendered agents; Alekseev, Navalny, Ponomarev Melkonyants, Udaltsov and the like.
            8. 0
              1 July 2013 15: 44
              They will soon forget about him in the USA. It is not too familiar humiliation for the United States that someone who does not give them to someone. They will simply forget everything in the US media themselves, and the fact that they will talk about Snowden all over the world will not matter.
              Amers will not be able to forget about him, he himself will not allow them. Throwing more and more compromising files of the highest secrecy, he will encourage the whole world to ask the United States questions that are very unpleasant for them, to which they have no answers. That's why they are in a rage. hi
            9. luka095
              0
              2 July 2013 01: 46
              Right If you immediately failed to return the fugitive, then you need to switch the attention of the Americans to something else, hot ...
              And about Snowden - silence.
          2. +22
            1 July 2013 08: 40
            Quote: Nikolai S.
            There is no point in giving Snowden to America.


            Right It makes sense to give Serdyukov to America, under the guise of Snowden, and put it on YouTube. smile

            Quote: Nikolai S.
            In the 90s, America gave everything and everything


            Sell, inexpensive
            1. +15
              1 July 2013 09: 26
              Quote: Vadivak
              Right It makes sense to give Serdyukov to America,

              Vadim, good morning! Moreover, free of charge and in addition with a "magnificent" bonus - Red Tolik, it will be useful for cutting the budget of their de @ emocratic economy.
              1. series
                +16
                1 July 2013 11: 06
                with Red Tolik the States will immediately make a nanotechnological breakthrough! And he will give them energy too - tavo .... will correct "as it should"! Yes, perhaps it is reforming the economy ...
                I'm afraid DO NOT REACH! request
                laughing
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              2. ded10041948
                +2
                1 July 2013 11: 18
                Plagiarists! I demand copyright protection!

                ded10041948 May 9, 2013 19:34 | US Air Force officers responsible for ICBM launches suspended for poor combat readiness
                Quote: Edward72
                They would still be in the appendage of MO Serdyukov. Then there will be a full laf.
                All with the Great Victory Day!
                Aha, dream! At first I had some fun too, and then I thought a little and went to the lip-rolling workshop. Although, there is an idea: If you offer mattress toppers for a lend - lease Stool, you can cut down a robust dough. Any price will be paid just to cancel such a "delivery". It is a pity that those in power will not give up such a "successful manager" to anyone. They got rid of the prosecutor's office and will continue to protect it. And so I would like to bring at least some benefit to the Motherland!

                Although, to be honest, I did not think about the "red-haired destroyer"!
          3. orkibotu
            -2
            1 July 2013 22: 21
            and no one will! Vova is stirring up his game which I can’t even understand! BUT I believe Vova that he knows what he is doing! Thank God ! Glory to Russia ! Glory to the King!
          4. Quiet
            +5
            1 July 2013 22: 47
            Viktor Anatolevich Bout (born January 13, 1967, Dushanbe, Tajik SSR) is a Russian businessman convicted in 2012 in the United States of 25 years in prison for illegal arms trade and supporting terrorism. Western media call him the “arms baron” and the “merchant of death”. US intelligence agencies consider Bout one of the largest illegal arms dealers in the world. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, in turn, calls the “Bout case” politically ordered and seeks to return Bout to Russia.

            They slandered, imprisoned, and now you are arranging hysterics like women. There is no such fig leaf to cover up your "vaunted" pseudo-democracy that stinks with the cadaveric stench of innocent people killed !!!!! am
            1. +1
              1 July 2013 22: 58
              Namely PSEUDO democracy!
        2. +3
          1 July 2013 09: 03
          He therefore does not get out of Sheremetyevo. He is afraid that his bearded men on bears on horseback, with PPSH and earflaps will be taken away.
          1. +1
            1 July 2013 11: 16
            Quote: Alexxeg73
            He therefore does not get out of Sheremetyevo. He is afraid that his bearded men on bears on horseback, with PPSH and earflaps will be taken away.

            No, he’s there in a capsule hotel in this very capsule being in suspended animation after 10 years, wakes up and goes out to people fellow
          2. 755962
            +2
            1 July 2013 18: 03
            Quote: Alexxeg73
            his bearded men on bears on horseback, with PPSh and with earflaps will be taken away.


            And eyes ... look what kind of eyes they have!
          3. Quiet
            +2
            1 July 2013 23: 31
            He therefore does not come out of Sheremetyevo

            Bullshit !!! There has long been wandering his make-up double (one of four - a day in the service, three at home) !!! lol . And he sings with Vova, over a glass of champagne, sad songs about scouts. laughing
        3. Kuzkin Batyan
          0
          1 July 2013 12: 01
          Russian nuclear four)))
        4. +1
          1 July 2013 13: 15
          Sovetskavazavodaplan
        5. z-exit
          +2
          1 July 2013 15: 19
          Quote: ed65b
          Like what??? - Matreshka, vodka, balalaika, bear. EEEEEE - like everything.


          Not all, Sheremetyevo forgot))) Will draw the Sheremetyevo plan and pass it to the Americans))
          1. Quiet
            0
            3 July 2013 18: 37
            He will draw the Sheremetyevo plan and give it to the Americans))

            There, for a long time "Trianon" (x / f "TASS is authorized to declare") copied and sold everything !!!! bully
        6. +2
          1 July 2013 18: 17
          ... bathhouse, beer, salmon and accordion. Now, like, that's all drinks
        7. redwar6
          +2
          2 July 2013 02: 40
          "Like what ??? - Matreshka, vodka, balalaika, bear. EEEEE- like everything."
          But what about all the Russian nuclear reactors: Disorder !!!
        8. 0
          2 July 2013 22: 44
          And the training of bears, you somehow forgot.
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        10. 0
          4 July 2013 20: 59
          With earflaps !!! .... With earflaps forgotten !!!! ....):
        11. 0
          6 July 2013 16: 12
          Kalashnikov !!! it's all. wink
      2. 0
        2 July 2013 18: 37
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        So that he can reveal our secrets, first we must allow him to these secrets.

        Not everything is so clear.
        How old is he ?
        And who will he be and what will he know in eleven years?
        Of course, all this is a game of the mind, but ...
        While he is a hindrance to everyone, I think that he could have complicated life for his comrades-in-arms of the Yusovites more than himself.
        It is not necessary only to think that no one knew anything!
        Generally surprising recognition of these facts!
        Most likely there is a very big domestic political game and woe to the losers!
    2. +3
      1 July 2013 08: 57
      Well, it’s necessary ... You mean, they sent a Cossack, and ours pecked at it, you dunce. This is how they turned their pockets, and right there was a complete handful of Snowden poured secrets
      1. 0
        1 July 2013 09: 41
        The only moment justifying the fact of the 2nd agency may be the scenario. Snowden was sent or somehow got to Russia, supposedly then he will fly to Ecuador and here SUSHA calls to Ecuador and says fu. Further, Snowden remains in Russia, and SUSHA knowing that Russia will be firm in its positions, because we will lose face from this, as a weak state if we pass on. Further SUSHA speculates on this and represents Russia to the rest of the world as a pastor hiding ZORROO))))))) these are just my assumptions.
        1. +4
          1 July 2013 10: 12
          Now the European Union is starting to make claims against the United States, so it’s better to wait until it ends. The EU can take Snowden to itself. what but it’s a fabrication, it’s still not necessary to give it to problems about the Americans; we’ve got used to it, but the loss of state’s authority will be more serious if we already know!
          1. Quiet
            +1
            1 July 2013 23: 38
            maybe the EU will take Snowden to itself

            ... and give free to amers !!! "Evriki" are great lovers of such mean things !!!!
    3. 0
      1 July 2013 13: 50
      he himself understood what he wrote, the thinker.
      1. 0
        1 July 2013 13: 57
        I missed this comment! This is a plus wassat
    4. +3
      1 July 2013 15: 39
      Quote: Dangerous
      An unusual story, of course, with this Snowden ... Although I think that it cannot be ruled out that he can be a salvager, a double agent. Like, he’s such a political refugee from himself; he is sorry for everyone, but in fact he can even find out our secrets. As they say, be afraid of Danians (Americans) who bring gifts ...

      Think Dangerous, maybe see a doctor?

      The US State Department is demanding that Russia “promptly extradite” Edward Snowden, because in America he has been “seriously charged”, and is blackmailing him with deteriorating relations ...
      Hurry, these very relations would have worsened, otherwise it’s such a sweetheart that they will not save ......
    5. s1н7т
      +3
      1 July 2013 21: 42
      Quote: Dangerous
      but in fact, we can also find out our secrets

      SW Dangerous, I laugh with you - well, what secrets do we have ?! laughing All the most secret that we have was invented in 70-80, and in the 90s it was safely drunk by Yeltsin. True, I heard that, for example, tablets with a running man painted on a pack were transferred to storage somewhere ... somewhere). But something is not heard of them in the troops. So, they also drank am
    6. +4
      1 July 2013 22: 46
      Well, yeah, the man who quarreled the United States with the EU and opened his eyes to the people of the United States is a meager.
      This guy will be torn alive in case of deportation to the USA, which, I hope, will not happen.
    7. +3
      2 July 2013 01: 25
      In vain minuses instructed a friend.
      In his words there is a rational kernel.
      Why did he fly to Russia? Why, with the entire global surveillance system, could not track the registration on the flight to Moscow? Why was his passport canceled in Russia, because they could wait for his departure and intercept the plane. I think that this is all a kind of set-up, not necessarily just the Snowden Cossack sent, the situation with the transit zone - THAT. If WE give him shelter, then he automatically presents himself as a traitor and the whole halo of a fighter against the system falls off him, and without this the media "dig" dirt on him to denigrate him. The same situation will be if we give him a green channel to Ecuador. We don't need it, let it sit further in transit. We are neither warm nor cold from this. Snowden is another reason.
      1. 0
        2 July 2013 05: 27
        Quote: Draz
        Why was his passport canceled in Russia

        His passport was canceled back in Hong Kong, he was traveling on the travel documents of Combodia.
        Quote: Draz
        , because they could wait for his departure and intercept the plane.

        Where to intercept, over China or Russia laughing
        Quote: Draz
        If WE give him refuge, then he automatically exposes himself as a traitor and the whole halo of a fighter with the system drops from him

        From it, the US media already make a traitor. Trying to understand your logic, but I can’t.
        Quote: Draz
        We do not need him, let him continue to sit in transit

        This is your personal opinion, the Kremlin may think otherwise
        1. 0
          2 July 2013 09: 11
          With the first paragraph sorted out.

          Second, the flight from Moscow to Ecuador only through the territory of Russia and China? The planned route was: Hong Kong-Moscow-Havana and further, to capture under the Belorussky in Cuba, but on the bus to Guantanomo hi

          Third, the fact of the matter is that the media is trying, but there is no good excuse. Of course we know what magicians are in the West, but not so much too loud a case.
          And Suddenly, SENSATION, Russia gave refuge, so (according to the logic of brainwashers) - a traitor, but against the freedom that he cared for so much, and for Putin, the enemy of gays (well, you understand).
          And so he is a victim of the American regime without a passport and without a residence permit, "homeless" laughing
    8. Che
      Che
      0
      3 July 2013 20: 46
      Sorry for him, to see a good person. And ours are keeping quiet. You have to save the guy. Our rats in the west have been welcomed. They screamed all over the world. Provide political asylum and all affairs. And let him do what he can and what he wants. about the spinach - not to be allowed to the state. Business then.
    9. 0
      4 July 2013 19: 52
      Watch a lot of espionage films dear! Be sure that RUSSIA is Great, and this low-budget series .......
  2. +18
    1 July 2013 07: 38
    Meanwhile, the process launched by Snowden had already begun: France throws presents To Washington.
  3. +2
    1 July 2013 07: 45
    the situation is interesting
  4. +9
    1 July 2013 07: 48
    here really is impudence the second happiness. I never get surprised at the greyhounds of the American authorities
    1. +3
      1 July 2013 08: 35
      Quote: buzuke
      I never get surprised at the greyhounds of the American authorities


      And why are you surprised, it used to be that the USSR dictated its adamant will to the entire world community, and after its sale, the roles changed
  5. +1
    1 July 2013 07: 51
    It turns out that a certain tundra animal appears in the picture about the blissful West and the meaning of this surrealism: "Arctic fox to the picture."
  6. +20
    1 July 2013 07: 53
    Americans have always been and remain two-faced "Anus" am , their life was originally based on violence, lies, demagogy and great arrogance. Almost destroying the indigenous population, leaving a tiny fraction of the natives on the reserves, showing them as in a zoo. This democracy of theirs brought millions of misfortunes to millions of people around the world. And it is better to declare Snowden to our scouts and confer the title of Hero of Russia. Let it scratch turnips. what
    1. ded10041948
      +3
      1 July 2013 11: 24
      Thought too! At the same time, the FBI will be knocked down. Such a puncture!
      1. 101
        101
        +2
        1 July 2013 18: 37
        Krasava Our pier we do not have the right under the constitution to transfer both the citizen’s passport and the order book and certificate of secondary education immediately to present the pier, we have all the papers numbered
    2. Alew
      +1
      1 July 2013 12: 44
      Quote: duche
      Americans have always been and remain two-faced "Anus" am , their life was originally based on violence, lies, demagogy and great arrogance. Almost destroying the indigenous population, leaving a tiny fraction of the natives on the reserves,

      I completely agree with you. I have had these thoughts for a long time - like rabble from all over the world, led by the Anglo-Saxons, occupied America, the indigenous population exterminated the remnants, driven into the reservations, and now the whole world is taught freedom and democracy. They have such experience. Now they are doing something similar to the rest of the world, imposing their Western "values", pursuing a policy of expansion and using force for profit and do not disdain anything. Well, he put this Snowden on display with dirty laundry so they are ready to eat him alive. And after the West warms up our Judas, I consider it a matter of principle to give him asylum in Russia. And also about the policy of the West towards Russia, there are 2 good books - Project Russia - without the author, it is clearly written why the West behaves this way in the world.
      1. +1
        1 July 2013 12: 53
        Kamrad-completely agree with you! I also read this book (though in electronic form). How can all this be explained to young people?
      2. +2
        1 July 2013 18: 27
        generally such books are not 2 but 4 hi
        1. Alew
          0
          2 July 2013 09: 26
          Quote: regressSSSR
          generally such books are not 2 but 4 hi

          There is a continuation. be sure to read book 3 and 4.
    3. +2
      1 July 2013 23: 04
      Quote: duche
      And it’s better to declare Snowden our scouts and assign the title of Hero of Russia. Let it scratch rap

      To begin with, grant him Russian citizenship, I think it will be more expensive and more useful than Depardieu.
  7. fenix57
    +9
    1 July 2013 07: 53
    "The US State Department demands from Russia to" extradite "Edward Snowden without delay ....
    and blackmails by deteriorating relations ... "
    -scared a hedgehog with a bare ass.
    And in a nightmare, the "gentlemen" from the State Department could not have dreamed that someone would be able to refuse them, they used to obey in the days of Gorboeltsin "at the expense of times", but here ... what a misfortune and can not do anything. laughing RUSSIA is not Ecuador, you cannot lead us on the chaff. hi
    Quote: Dangerous
    but in fact, we can also find out our secrets.

    Yes, someone will let him do it.
    Quote: Dangerous
    As they say, be afraid of Danians (Americans) who bring gifts ...

    If Snowder was a "gift from the Danes" there would be no such hysteria from Washington, too expensive and loud. hi
  8. ed65b
    +5
    1 July 2013 07: 55
    The State Department is the most State Department in the world. All obey. And then we will punish, stop selling dollars.
    1. +5
      1 July 2013 08: 03
      Quote: ed65b
      . And then we will punish, stop selling dollars.

      Let them keep them.
  9. Hel
    +10
    1 July 2013 08: 16
    The State Department is hysterical ... how wonderful it is!
  10. +2
    1 July 2013 08: 26
    Quote: Dangerous
    An unusual story, of course, with this Snowden ... Although I think that one cannot exclude the fact that he can be a salvager, a double agent.

    Well, for this, too much public relations was created around him! Hardly? The question is: why has he been sitting in Russia for so long and cannot be heard and seen ?! Either our people work with him and agree on the conditions under which he will stay, or the guy got in, no one wants to give him asylum. The main thing is that he would not be eliminated at the airport by quiet amers, a heart attack there or something else
    1. +3
      1 July 2013 10: 18
      Quote: PDM80
      The main thing is that he would not be eliminated at the airport by quiet amers, a heart attack there or something else

      They will not liquidate even if he accidentally catches a cold, picks up meningitis, the mumps and horses move, this will be another blow to the amers.
      1. +1
        1 July 2013 10: 20
        Well, they have a reputation in the world, especially now, in principle, according to FIG, but everyone else may have a warning that you can’t hide from a punishing hand, and this is in the US style
  11. serg. 555
    +7
    1 July 2013 08: 27
    Eavesdropping, peeping. And tomorrow and the day after tomorrow they will always do this.
  12. +5
    1 July 2013 08: 34
    Anecdote:
    She didn’t like oral sex ... but every time she silently swallowed an insult.
    In this case, the Department of State will have to silently swallow the suture with Snowden. It will be even harder to raise the wave; it will be worse for them themselves, the snowden has many trump cards in his hand. He hadn’t done anything so serious yet. Well, think about spying because it’s all for the sake of freedom and democracy, security and prosperity .... in the end, the American media will put this situation in a different light favorable for them (blaming, for example, vile Russians)))
  13. +5
    1 July 2013 08: 36
    Is violation of US constitution and laws a military secret? Is Themis USA sleeping? Exposing this crime is a crime? Here it is a vivid manifestation of double morality, or rather, the manifestation of the fact that it does not exist at all, and the US Themis is not a guardian of the law, but the hand of the governing elite whose interests it covers.
  14. 0
    1 July 2013 08: 40
    from the Don.
    About Snowden, Assange and a hedgehog with them, one thing can be said-: Debt by payment is red!:.
  15. AVDOTYAKARLOVNA
    +2
    1 July 2013 08: 41
    Snowden, like Depardieu, needs to be issued a passport, made plastic and sent to Siberia to engage in agriculture and cattle breeding. The State Department is generally stupefied .... let them give directions to the banana republics.
    1. 0
      1 July 2013 11: 14
      Ecuador has already been given. They immediately turned on the back.
      1. +1
        1 July 2013 11: 27
        I said it right away! And then a certain pensioner tried to explain to me that Ecuador was trying to be GREAT!
    2. +1
      1 July 2013 14: 01
      Quote: AVDOTYAKARLOVNA
      send to Siberia to engage in agriculture and cattle breeding.

      They say he is a good geek. That is to draw him to the appropriate work, without admitting, however, to serious secrets. But you never know ...
    3. +2
      1 July 2013 22: 56
      Quote: AVDOTYAKARLOVNA
      The State Department is generally stupefied .... let them give instructions

      Can you imagine how we offended the “feelings of believers?” Today Putin repeated once again, “We haven’t betrayed anyone and we will not” .... But they believed .... Such a bummer ....
  16. Whale
    -12
    1 July 2013 08: 43
    Oh well, his snowden in his swamp lacks at least a fence
  17. +10
    1 July 2013 08: 45
    USA. The first decade of the XNUMXst century can be considered a decade of unfulfilled hopes. The grandiose plans and aspirations of the great powers failed, regional entities and transnational structures. The US plans to build a unipolar world did not come true. If in the middle of the 90-hgg. The US Department of State confidently declared that America controls 191 states of the world, and President Clinton solemnly proclaimed the XNUMXst century as the "golden age" of the United States. Today, Washington has a slightly different mood.
    Hence the phenomenon of Z. Brzezinski, the protest calculations of the diplomatic post of D. Assange and the exposure of special services by E. Snowden.
    The North Atlanticists are beginning to realize that living on double standards is impossible, but they can’t do otherwise.
    So all their vaunted "democracy" is on their "ears".
  18. +2
    1 July 2013 08: 48
    Something is wrong here. The amers raised a painfully loud hooting, usually sitting crap and not chirping. This looks like another test of Russia and the GDP for obedience: ".. and the tigers sat at my feet ...". Only until tigers and mongrels perform these commands at once!
  19. +6
    1 July 2013 08: 54
    They wanted to solder B. Fisher for 10 years, only because he played in the wrong place. A step to the right, a step to the left ... such is democracy.
  20. Ivga_lis
    +1
    1 July 2013 09: 10
    Snowden, like Assange, in this sense, things are special, you can say, ideological, or idealistic, ready to suffer not in words but in deeds.

    Exposing the CIA, Snowden, like all idealists, appeals to simple human feelings of justice and fairness. In correspondence with The Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald, he took the pseudonym Verax (Latin honest).

    But it’s still not clear to me, is Snowden a well-prepared American provocation for Russia and China? Or is it still an ideological fighter? In the first case, everything becomes simple and clear. In the second ... I don’t believe something, that there are still people (especially in America) who are able to act for the ghostly ideals of conscience and justice
    1. +14
      1 July 2013 13: 37
      Provocation of what? What should appear as a result of it? We don’t give away Snowden and they ... shoot rockets at us? Introduce sanctions? What else?
      To fight (let alone start a nuclear war) - now there are no pretexts, especially the USA. Test tube waved ... then. The imposition of sanctions ... well, they recently tried. Any sanctions of theirs are ten times more painful for them than for us. In vain you do not believe in people. If honor and conscience were not torn to the light through all the fooling, if people did not want to be people against all odds, then first of all you and I would have been destroyed long ago. And secondly, civilization would have perished long ago.
      You see, our existence as organized beings in civilization is based solely on conscience. If you remove it - the interaction between people becomes completely ineffective. As we see recently, when, for example, scientific progress was completely replaced by the replacement of cell phones.
      When the filthy thief, which is now advertised (the same thieves) as "masters of life", becomes a little more than 3 percent of all people - social ties are distorted and cooperation between people becomes impossible. The West solved the problem by abandoning cooperation, rebuilding its society to rob those who still have honor. But the suckers end, and the Chinese and I began to show our teeth ... But I digress.
      To be honest, to suffer from injustice, to want the truth - a natural state of man. It’s wrong and unnatural to be a lie, a thief, a vile scum. No matter what the advertisement shoves you into ...
      1. +4
        1 July 2013 13: 43
        Well said! I wouldn’t have succeeded
      2. +1
        1 July 2013 14: 08
        Quote: Mikhail3
        If honor and conscience were not torn to the light through all the fooling, if people did not want to be people against all odds, then first of all you and I would have been destroyed long ago. And secondly, civilization would have perished long ago.

        Quote: Mikhail3
        To be honest, to suffer from injustice, to want the truth - a natural state of man.

        Mikhail, sometimes such thoughts also come to me, you think who and when gave, gave or instilled these qualities of self-preservation to a person, without them you are right, humanity would have long been turned into a working cattle.
        1. +2
          1 July 2013 16: 45
          Life instilled, Yura. How to live if you do not believe anyone? Remember 90? They were so cool there ... so what? The coolest, scary, vile, most cruel and merciless back has. And how to protect her? How to sleep at all to the meanest and coolest? If no one protects your back, but you kill everything, you betray everything ... This is not life, this is death. You can live, grow, build only by trusting people, and so that they believe you ...
          1. 0
            2 July 2013 21: 08
            Quote: Mikhail3
            Remember the 90s?

            I remember and still remember, my age was the color, I wanted to do so much, now I just don’t have much time.
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      4. Ivga_lis
        +1
        1 July 2013 15: 47
        Quote: Mikhail3
        Provocation of what? What should appear as a result of it? We don’t give away Snowden and they ... shoot rockets at us? Introduce sanctions? What else?

        They won’t, of course, launch rockets - the United States has not so much tense relations with Russia and China. But as for the sanctions, perhaps, especially given the position of Russia on the Syrian issue and its still warm relations with Iran.
        It's just that Snowden does not look so big a figure and the information he divulged is from the category "everyone guessed, but he confirmed it." In my opinion, the materials transmitted by the same Menning look much louder, but they did not cause much resonance in Europe, for example.
        Quote: Mikhail3
        In vain you do not believe in people. If honor and conscience were not torn to the light through all the fooling, if people did not want to be people against all odds, then first of all you and I would have been destroyed long ago. And secondly, civilization would have perished long ago.

        It’s not that I don’t believe in people. But I very often see that the desire for personal gain prevails. Again, personal safety. And in order to give a damn about it and act only according to conscience and the desire for justice, one must be either a person of ideas, or a very brave person. Agree that not everyone dares to put justice above their own security.
        Quote: Mikhail3
        What we see recently, when, for example, scientific progress was completely replaced by the replacement of cell phones

        As for scientific progress - I still want to believe that mankind simply did not accumulate energy and knowledge to move to a new stage of development (for a new scientific revolution), since during the 20th century it developed very quickly, in comparison with other periods stories - nuclear energy, hydrogen, spaceflight, DNA decryption, the creation of computers and cellular communications - still a huge breakthrough, after which the accumulation of knowledge and resources for a new transition is required.
        Quote: Mikhail3
        To be honest, to suffer from injustice, to want the truth - a natural state of man. It’s wrong and unnatural to be a lie, a thief, a vile scum. No matter what the advertisement shoves you into ...

        Wrong, unnatural and vile - it’s not the person who leaves, but the cadaver, the perfect consumer. I completely agree with you, but very often I come across the fact that people set personal goals and interests above all else - it was disgusting before, then you somehow get tired of being surprised and begin to take it for granted, trying not to be like such cadavers
        1. +2
          1 July 2013 16: 52
          Answered well, smart and calm, thank you. I, too, see more and more filth around ... and this is not an easy task. They want to kill us. First, disrupt social ties, stunt growth, tear us apart. And then kill. They do not regret anything for this, creatures ... And the worst thing is that they hope for their next "developments". Everything seems to them that they will live without conscience. They will bathe in power, rejoice and shine from the satisfaction of their foul passions ... they cannot see their own death in this, meager "rulers", damn it ...
          1. Ivga_lis
            +1
            1 July 2013 20: 46
            Quote: Mikhail3
            They answered well, smartly and calmly, thanks.

            hi
            Quote: Mikhail3
            First, to destroy social ties, slow down growth, tear us into small pieces.

            Now the trouble is that we do not have a unifying idea that could unite the people. And without this idea, which will control morality in society, we risk becoming an analogue of "democratic" Europe - with gay marriages and other "delights" of liberalism. First, morality is destroyed, then "man is a wolf to man", then "live in order to work", then the institution of the family is destroyed, and the result of all this can already be seen "over the hill"
    2. +2
      1 July 2013 19: 52
      "I somehow do not believe that there are still people (especially in America) who are able to act for the sake of illusory ideals of conscience and justice"

      there are a lot of them and they love their country and constitution
      1. Ivga_lis
        +1
        1 July 2013 20: 31
        Well, despite the fact that the actions of the American government (which protects the constitution) often diverge from issues of conscience and universal values
        1. +2
          3 July 2013 00: 04
          "That's right, despite the fact that the actions of the American government (which is protected by the constitution), often at odds with issues of conscience, and with universal human values."

          Perhaps I agree, the United States has a constitutional constitution.
      2. +2
        1 July 2013 23: 16
        Quote: poquello
        able to act for the ghostly ideals of conscience and justice "

        there are a lot of them and they love their country and constitution

        They are afraid of their state! The constitution gives imaginary freedoms, the apparatus for suppressing dissent in the United States is too strong, hence the love.
  21. nickname 1 and 2
    +1
    1 July 2013 09: 11
    This is not the first bird. There was Angela Davis, there was a professor (I do not remember the name — I was starving under the White House), etc. This is not a sign of society’s awakening. Stripes are very obese and heavily zombified. There was a confidence in exclusivity. This must be knocked out by a great disaster.
    So there is no hope for a speedy recovery of minke whales.
    1. series
      0
      2 July 2013 07: 58
      Dr. Hyder? hi in the days of the hunchback ...
  22. +1
    1 July 2013 09: 18
    Quote: Dangerous
    An unusual story, of course, with this Snowden ... Although I think that one cannot exclude the fact that he can be a salvager, a double agent.


    Of course, he does not find out secrets, and he is not a double agent. But the fact that he may be a loser - I do not exclude it.

    I remember L.H. Oswald. Before President Kennedy was removed with "his help", he also ended up in the USSR as an opponent of the American way of life. And a "Russian trace" was formed in the dirty story.
  23. Xnumx kopeek
    0
    1 July 2013 09: 19
    Quote: Alexxeg73
    He therefore does not get out of Sheremetyevo. He is afraid that his bearded men on bears on horseback, with PPSH and earflaps will be taken away.

    what? you can live in the airport. If it’s good. One dude has lived for 20 years. / I forgot - where, but - fact / -
    and in general - exchange Snowden-for-Batman. In the morning-Snowden, in the evening-Batman.
    Will be a drone
  24. Son
    Son
    0
    1 July 2013 09: 23
    Was there a boy ..? But is it really that he flew to Sheremetyevo ..?
    Smell, sir, it goes ... smacks of a story with the "elusive" Bonya Laden ...
  25. 0
    1 July 2013 09: 40
    Well, it turns out, I knew the "secrets" of the CIA, the NSA and the State Department, that they "patronize" the whole world already 5 years ago, you need to rummage in your memory, maybe the keys for launching American nuclear rockets will pop up. Snowden, thanks cap.
    1. series
      0
      2 July 2013 08: 04
      Quote: Standard Oil
      rummaging around in memory maybe the keys to launch American nuclear rockets pop up. Snowden, thanks cap.

      the keys are constantly at the operational duty officer "in missiles"
      but the launch codes - periodically or unplannedly change ... hi
  26. Unknown
    +1
    1 July 2013 09: 44
    Bravo Snowden !!!!
  27. +5
    1 July 2013 10: 11
    video on the topic ex-CIA director Michael Hayden
    1. 0
      1 July 2013 10: 40
      Thanks for the video! It was very interesting to listen!
  28. ed65b
    0
    1 July 2013 10: 14
    Snowden in Russia is the same kind of balm scented by Russophobia American senators. McCain already in all the churches, churches and synagogues around the Senate, put candles for the snowden and ordered prayers for the healthy ones. sit dear in the Sharik, or else they started to forget about me. And I sleep peacefully and say the word in the Senate.
  29. Vrungel78
    +6
    1 July 2013 10: 14
    The states have gone too far so that it has already begun to crack. Comrades bourgeois, I wish you the same that you arranged for us in the 90s
  30. 0
    1 July 2013 10: 20
    As if in fact with Snowden, agent 2-0, or a person who refused 200.000 a year, is glad that what is happening in the world, quote
    At the same time, he unwittingly destroys the bright image of American democracy, revealing its terrible secret: behind a decent facade lies global surveillance of the world and its own citizens. Any historian will tell you that this is the first and obligatory step towards dictatorship, that is, the image of the USA in the world has been greatly damaged. Hence the hysteria of the State Department ...

    I just do not agree, not involuntarily what I deserve ... moreover, if we had similar facts as a general betrayal of the elites ... then the point is really in an appeal to simple human feelings ... justice and honesty ... and it's good that such people there is
  31. 0
    1 July 2013 10: 31
    Look how they ran in ... And business, people didn’t disclose a not-so-secret information. All special services of the world know about this, well, and who is not an exalted idealist, understands perfectly well that everyone is watching everyone ... Apparently in Tanya, against the background of a fall in their power and authority, this person overflowed a cup of patience ...
  32. KononAV
    +1
    1 July 2013 10: 35
    My uncle has the most honest rules. From this series
  33. 0
    1 July 2013 10: 44
    As a "informant" Snowden is no - "America was not discovered." :) The question is - why did you run? Option 1 - an ideological fighter against the system (a dissident, as we would call it). Option 2 - the US agent. There is a third option - the person's roof has gone. We place bets.
    1. Cat
      +2
      1 July 2013 10: 54
      Quote: Andrey77
      As a "informant" Snowden is no - "America was not discovered." :) The question is - why did you run? Option 1 - an ideological fighter against the system (a dissident, as we would call it). Option 2 - the US agent. There is a third option - the person's roof has gone. We place bets.

      There is a fourth option: the European bureaucrats, for some reason, decided to slow down the negotiations on a transatlantic free trade zone. And they threw a gorgeous occasion - wiretapping by the Yankees of European politicians, the brawl is still what kind of negotiations are there. The version has the right to life, since it is very doubtful that every single European intelligence agency would suddenly become blind and not be able to detect the outrages created by the amers.
      The fifth option is the cunning Chinese, who are terrified of how beneficial it is to quarrel the United States and the European Union. And already someone, and there are enough specialists in hacking this and that in China =)
      1. series
        0
        2 July 2013 08: 06
        Quote: Cat
        The fifth option is the cunning Chinese, who are terrified of how beneficial it is to quarrel the United States and the European Union. And already someone, and there are enough specialists in hacking this and that in China =)

        hi Autumn is a smelter, tavalYssa Cat!
    2. 0
      1 July 2013 10: 56
      Option number 1! Ruble for a hundred!
    3. Whale
      -4
      1 July 2013 11: 01
      I agree with option 2
      the body runs and screams there bad and terrible
      and all in 1 vote yes yes yes ha ha ha ju ju ju
      and as a result, the well-known infa is merged
      but essentially a disaster in something else behind the scenes
  34. +1
    1 July 2013 10: 44
    Once, at the beginning, the USA was really a country of freedom and the embodiment of hopes! It’s a pity, but it turned into another empire, which lost touch with the earth, and this is fraught with a fall!
    1. -1
      1 July 2013 10: 49
      For a simple citizen, the United States is truly a land of freedom. Restrictions begin when taking a more or less high post in the civil service. But this is the case everywhere. You have to pay for access to secrets.
      1. +2
        1 July 2013 20: 16
        "For an ordinary US citizen, it really is a country of freedom."

        Please list the freedoms.
      2. +1
        1 July 2013 23: 09
        Quote: Andrey77
        For a simple citizen of the United States is truly a country of freedom.

        Well, except that in kindergarten they will believe that even in the younger group.
      3. +1
        1 July 2013 23: 24
        Quote: Andrey77
        For a simple citizen, the United States is truly a land of freedom.

        There are butterflies, there is freedom.
  35. +1
    1 July 2013 10: 54
    As repeatedly noted by Snowden, a technical officer. This is a very broad concept, so the damage to the United States is not only moral and I doubt very much that this guy is sitting at the airport right now!
    1. 0
      1 July 2013 10: 59
      You are doing the right thing that you doubt it! It has long been in a different place. I won’t say a military secret!
    2. 0
      1 July 2013 23: 13
      Quote: Oper
      I doubt very much

      They are right that you doubt it. Anyone needs to eat something, go to the toilet, sorry for the details, you need to go to the hotel more than once a day. There is no capsule hotel that guarantees security. You will have to contact someone to buy at least a pie in the buffet .... So your nickname is quite consistent ....
  36. +1
    1 July 2013 10: 54
    Most likely, Snowden found out something for which he would not be allowed to spend money, but it had nothing to do with the security of the United States. It’s a private secret of a very important group of bureaucrats of the State Department. Well, the Yankees are watching everyone, damn the news too. Old for some reason can’t, so there are two options left, or rather two in one. It will light up in the media as brightly as possible and hide. What he did. In Sheremetyevo he most likely is no longer hi
  37. +2
    1 July 2013 11: 07
    How pitiful the poor Europeans are now, they serve the master faithfully, and he did not trust them and spied and listened and still mocked and scoffed at them. And Snowden probably already somewhere in a boarding house near Moscow is preparing a new reset of compromising materials under sensitive new leadership.
  38. +2
    1 July 2013 11: 34
    You might think of Geyrop and everyone else did not realize that Big Brother was following them. Just the situation with Snowden gave everyone an occasion to say it out loud and resent)))
    1. +1
      1 July 2013 23: 18
      Quote: Kushadasov
      and everyone else had no idea

      Well, you know ... guessing and KNOW are different things. You can guess about anything-for example, the husband / wife’s infidelity ... But knowing is a completely different matter. And the decisions as a result of guesses and knowledge will also be different.
  39. +3
    1 July 2013 11: 56
    Now we can poke the "Snowden list" in the West's nose.
    It would be nice to shelter him in Russia. It’s a painfully symbolic figure.
    It’s a pity if they surrender it to the States.
    1. shamil
      +2
      1 July 2013 12: 15
      No one will give it away! such a valuable frame
      1. Slav
        0
        21 July 2013 11: 09
        Quote: shamil
        No one will give it away! such a valuable frame

        It would be great!
  40. shamil
    0
    1 July 2013 12: 00
    Yes! the geyropa was frightened for her private conversations on the phone that the whole world would find out about their nasty conversations. And the enemy and the Americans didn’t treat them like I couldn’t miss the words anyway
  41. shamil
    +3
    1 July 2013 12: 12
    Putin is great! in an interview - what, he is a transit passenger, he did not violate the Russian border, we have nothing to detain him for 'probably walks somewhere around the airport - look for - says
  42. +1
    1 July 2013 12: 27
    There is no need to give it away. Or let them change to Buta. So how to judge a Russian citizen who didn’t even enter America, it’s always welcome. And as far as the interests of the states are concerned, it is necessary to give immediately. Let him calmly go to his Ecuador or exchange for Buta.
    1. +1
      1 July 2013 23: 24
      Quote: LetterKsi
      exchange for Buta.

      An exchange is possible if the figures are approximately equal, that is, we would have detained a person convicted of a crime against Russia (we will leave the question of Bout's "guilt" outside the brackets), convicted him by our court, and then exchanged for our own convicted in America. It is not good to change a person who is looking for protection from America. Who in this case will believe us another time? Who wants to cooperate, fearing that they will exchange, and he will receive a kirdyk there?
  43. Grigorich 1962
    +2
    1 July 2013 13: 21
    Let the State Department choke in its rage !! .... the last scumbags ..... and let them feel in their own skin how to neglect the opinion of RUSSIA. To hell with them and not with Snowden .... go to him already they printed a Russian passport .... well done guy.
    1. 0
      1 July 2013 23: 25
      Quote: Grigorich 1962
      Russian passport printed.

      Edik Snegov ........
  44. +1
    1 July 2013 13: 23
    Ecuador turned on the back after a call from Fashington, now the move is after Russia. I hope we will be on top.
  45. shamil
    0
    1 July 2013 13: 29
    It seems to me that Russia was not at that time when she was told what tune to sing under. We will all be a grandfather!
  46. NKVD
    0
    1 July 2013 13: 34
    What can these require there? And the chairman of the KGB general Kalugin, who is hiding in the United States? And the amers do not give him to us ??? am
    1. +2
      1 July 2013 13: 38
      This bastard under the name Kalugin still live? Not an order!
      1. +2
        1 July 2013 20: 22
        "Is this bastard under the name of Kalugin still alive? Not order!"

        It’s like an ice ax is crying.
  47. +5
    1 July 2013 14: 00
    Quote: duche
    Americans in life were and remain two-faced "Anus" am, their life was originally based on violence, lies, demagoguery and great arrogance

    In general, they must be declared before the whole world an "evil empire" (as in 1983 Reagan spoke about the USSR).
    1. +2
      1 July 2013 20: 26
      "In general, they should be declared before the whole world an" evil empire "(as in 1983 Reagan spoke about the USSR)"

      Police gendarme of the world and his people.
  48. +5
    1 July 2013 14: 06
    To the depths of his soul, that mentor, impudent tone with which the ruling pack of the USA is trying to talk with Russia is outraged. The states themselves are teeming with traitors from the Russian special services. At least one has been issued to Russia? No matter how. The Americans themselves are very fond of speculating about freedom, democracy, and supporting dissidents in other countries. And then they had their own dissident - Snowden. And what a tantrum began! What the Yankees don't like when "their" dissident leaks information about the unseemly actions of American intelligence against even their allies. Swallow these bitter pills and dare not teach us democracy. No erysipelas.
    1. 0
      1 July 2013 14: 13
      Now gentlemen from the analytical department of the CIA are trying to understand your idea!
  49. +1
    1 July 2013 14: 11
    Quote: kavkaz8888
    "But after such statements, it should already be a matter of honor for the United States to return Souden,"

    If we push, what the hell will they do to us. They will grit their teeth and die out, as with Georgia.
  50. MG42
    +4
    1 July 2013 14: 17
    Edward Snowden had a salary of about $ 200 a year, living in Hawaii, working in a friendly team of 000 NSA rumors, and still could not stand the hypocrisy of the United States with which he had to work while digging in dirty linen .. fellow
    1. 0
      1 July 2013 14: 21
      Good sys-admins are also needed in Gazprom! I don’t think that people have lost much
      1. MG42
        +2
        1 July 2013 14: 24
        Naturally, he doesn’t have it in the terminal, no one will give it away from him until all the information is given, he watched Putin’s speech = he is clearly not set to give it away, at least for now ..
        1. +1
          1 July 2013 23: 29
          Quote: MG42
          Putin = he is clearly not set to give out, at least for now ..

          Not "yet," but never! Putin emphasized this: "Russia has never betrayed anyone and will not continue to do this either."
          1. MG42
            +2
            2 July 2013 00: 28
            Quote: Tverichanka
            Putin emphasized this: "Russia has never betrayed anyone and will not continue to do this either

            He said so ... I rewrote verbatim >> we can issue some citizens of foreign states only to states with which we have relevant international agreements on extradition of criminals, we do not have such an agreement with the USA >>
            Below is the video
          2. MG42
            +3
            2 July 2013 01: 18
            Tverichanka, can you have another video ???? Have you reconsidered where Putin says "never"?
            Here's another word for word >>> Mr. Snowden = a free man, the sooner he chooses the end point of his stay, the better for us and for him.
            1. MG42
              0
              2 July 2013 01: 44
              Okay, don't want to answer = don't, be careful, <never say never> this phrase is remembered and the film was like that. Good night. wink
    2. Zhenya-1
      -1
      1 July 2013 14: 23
      The act of a real man.
  51. -3
    1 July 2013 14: 56
    Good day to all.
    I would not call Snowden and Assange dissidents. There is a lot of honor.
    A dissident is a dissident who chooses different values. But they are still Westerners. Hooligans looking for fame, fame, money.
    1. 0
      1 July 2013 15: 02
      Soviet intelligence officers are like that! The main thing is camouflage! And let them think and guess
  52. +2
    1 July 2013 15: 03
    Judging by how the situation is developing, Snowden will write an application for political asylum in Russia, as Lavrov hinted at, and Putin has already called Snowden a human rights activist. Putin does not take back his words. So Snowden, apparently, is Russian. The first in a long line... On the other hand, such a brain drain to Russia can only be welcomed! We have enough work for all the Snowdens.
  53. Fetel
    +2
    1 July 2013 15: 17
    The West's reaction has already followed - the summit countries are demanding an explanation from the United States.
  54. +1
    1 July 2013 15: 39
    The guards of American democracy this time faced a problem that was formulated back in ancient Rome: "Watchmen must be kept safe." It arises in a period of decline and decay of empires, the Roman Empire failed to cope with it ...

    I hope these ghouls can't handle it either. The debts are too painful to torture humanity. I’m sure that even Europe is no longer delighted, it’s just that they, like typical puppets, choose the strong side, although the balance of power is a fragile thing!
  55. Spiegel
    -1
    1 July 2013 15: 57
    I remember the film “The Insider,” in which the hero, who headed the research center of a tobacco corporation, could not remain silent and told journalists a secret: tobacco companies added a substance to their products that accelerates addiction to tobacco. That hero lost his family, his job, his income, and he took a terrible risk. But he fought for the people. The story, by the way, is based on real events. Today the States are sleeping and dreaming of how to declare this truth-teller a Chinese or our spy. Then you can lower the intensity of passions and say that the enemies did all this to damage the United States. No, you can’t leave him in Russia, even approaching him now is unprofitable - he will continue to give out information, like Assange. Let him give it away, because he is an American.
    1. +3
      1 July 2013 17: 56
      Snowden should not be compared to Assange. Assange withdrew hundreds of millions at someone else's risk. And he hardly foresaw that he himself would be hunted. I hoped it was similar - just like in the old days, Americans wouldn’t want to spoil their image. He was stupid, that's all.
      Snowden didn't win anything in his case, he only lost. And from the very beginning he understood that he would be trampled, and most likely eventually killed. Moreover, no one will compensate him for what he had in the SGA; he will never have a carefree life again. Of the two, I personally respect only Snowden.
  56. Adorofeev63
    +1
    1 July 2013 15: 59
    The main thing is that it doesn’t fall into their hands, otherwise let them be hysterical. And it’s like in a cartoon: “Smile and wave!”
  57. georg737577
    +1
    1 July 2013 16: 10
    If Russia does not help Edward, and even more so, through its actions or inaction, contributes to his extradition to the United States, this will be a big minus for its reputation in the eyes of decent people
    all over the world. I think that this situation can serve as a kind of “litmus test” to test the real political and security authority of Russia...
  58. +3
    1 July 2013 16: 29
    According to this dissident! Germany was the number 1 European enemy)))
    That is, the amers are already planning strikes against their allies!! NATO is NATO! But if you are strong economically, you are no longer a friend of the USA!! It's time for Europe to think about who heads their super-duper bloc. Friend?or ENEMY?
    1. 0
      1 July 2013 17: 12
      Quote: spirit
      It's time for Europe to think about who heads their super-duper bloc.

      Now, for now, there are two players on the global field: the EU and the USA.
      It has long been said
      If you can’t destroy something, you have to lead...

      I think there is no need to explain the use of this phrase
      bully
  59. -4
    1 July 2013 17: 21
    Quote: Chen
    Good day to all.
    I would not call Snowden and Assange dissidents. There is a lot of honor.
    A dissident is a dissident who chooses different values. But they are still Westerners. Hooligans looking for fame, fame, money.

    The same feeling that they want easy fame, fame... and money of course...
    1. 0
      1 July 2013 18: 25
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Quote: Chen
      Good day to all.
      I would not call Snowden and Assange dissidents. There is a lot of honor.
      A dissident is a dissident who chooses different values. But they are still Westerners. Hooligans looking for fame, fame, money.

      The same feeling that they want easy fame, fame... and money of course...

      It is not so important that they were pushed to such actions. What is important is that they are grist for our mill.
    2. -1
      1 July 2013 19: 35
      Quote: MIKHAN
      The same feeling that they want easy fame, fame... and money of course...

      In general it is
      MOSCOW, July 1. /ITAR-TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Edward Snowden can remain in Russia only if he stops his activities directed against the United States. “If he wants to stay here, there is one condition: he must stop his work aimed at causing damage to our American partners. Strange as it may sound from my lips,” the head of state said at a press conference in Moscow following the results meeting of the Gas Exporting Countries Forum /GECF/.

      http://www.itar-tass.com/c11/792055.html
      In general, he wants to stay in Russia, let him stop spending his gold and foreign exchange reserves for the amusement of the honest public.
      Nobody really knew anything!
      bully
      1. 0
        1 July 2013 19: 39
        Well, you also need to be able to play it beautifully!
        1. 0
          1 July 2013 19: 48
          And if Maduro takes him with him, he’s also in Moscow, so that’s not an option for Snowden, maybe he came to Russia for the sake of the summit!
          1. -1
            1 July 2013 20: 04
            Quote: BARKAS
            What if Maduro takes him with him?

            Edward Snowden asked for political asylum from Ecuador, but after a conversation between the head of this country and US Vice President Joseph Biden, his receipt was in question. “We touched on the topic of Snowden. I was conveyed a polite request from the United States to deny him asylum,” Ecuadorian media quoted President Rafael Correa as saying. The head of state described the conversation with Biden as “very pleasant and cordial.” Rafael Correa Delgado said that Snowden's fate will be decided by the Russian authorities, since he must be in Ecuador to consider his asylum request.

            Right there.
            A person who makes money from secrets is predictable, but an idealist...
            So, the GDP offered a compromise to Shalash Obama - we close the leak of Snowden’s information in exchange for asylum and everything is orderly, nobly.
  60. +4
    1 July 2013 17: 27
    In principle, there are no legal grounds for the extradition of Snowden. Issue may be reviewed only if the committed act is a crime in both states. I don’t understand how disclosing US secrets can be considered a crime on Russian territory?
    1. s1н7т
      0
      1 July 2013 23: 18
      Billy, for some reason I think that everything depends on the presence/absence of a corresponding agreement between countries. The Russian Federation and the United States do not have this, in my opinion. So there is no reason. Well, there may be private agreements between the main states or something similar. Comrade is not immune from this laughing
  61. +2
    1 July 2013 17: 40
    It is very possible that Snowden is now on Russian territory (not in the Sheremetyevo transit zone). I think he is in Lubyanka, in good apartments. Maybe I'm wrong. Our guys from the FSB have probably already talked to him. Considering the impudent and threatening tone of America's demands for the extradition of the CIA agent, they will receive "the ears of a dead donkey." Giving Snowden to America means becoming as hypocritical a “sir” as they are. No, that won't happen.
  62. Powder donut
    +2
    1 July 2013 17: 42
    It's amazing, now dissidents are coming to us))) If I had told you about this in the 70-80s, no one would have believed me.)))
  63. +1
    1 July 2013 18: 15
    ...destroys the bright image of American democracy...
    Does anyone still have it? Then we go to you...
  64. 0
    1 July 2013 18: 55
    At the same time, he unwittingly destroys the bright image of American democracy, revealing its terrible secret: behind a decent facade lies global surveillance of the world and its own citizens. Any historian will tell you that this is the first and obligatory step towards dictatorship, that is, the image of the USA in the world has been greatly damaged. Hence the hysteria of the State Department ...


    Well, in general, Snowden for the whole world did not reveal something that was really top-secret; he simply confirmed at the official level something that was more or less known to everyone a long time ago and apparently was a top secret, but for the Americans themselves, who know nothing further than their own noses they are unseen and unheard until they are taken by the scruff of the neck and poked their nose into the de..oh, these are the local heroes! If only someone as recklessly bold as an exposer of state secrets would escape with secret data from area 51 and straight to us in Russia, that would be true!! winked
    1. shamil
      +2
      1 July 2013 20: 24
      How did you not give it away? and scandals over the option of considering Germany as a potential adversary of the United States if something happens.
      They also leaked Berluscone
      1. 0
        1 July 2013 22: 54
        Well, about Germany and Berluscone, of course everything is so true! but by and large these are more scandals and intrigues than real revealing information! everyone who plays in the big game, one way or another, is still aware of all the events of this kind, and the fact that Germany lays claim to the (probable) sole control of Europe, bypassing the USA and England, which, to put it mildly, because of its dominant economic successes in the region, do not like, is not a particularly big secret I remember there was even a whole article on this topic!
  65. Donvel
    0
    1 July 2013 19: 07
    Now even in the states they will start talking about our fifth column. Or is it just us who have such a phobia?
  66. +4
    1 July 2013 19: 37
    but now, thanks to Snowden and the information he revealed, every day on Skype you can start with words; Hello, dear comrades, agents from the NSA, we are starting our broadcast from Russia today, on our red hills, everything is still fine, the weather is good, the sun is shining and our yao is in good health, as before, at the combat post! laughing You’d better tell us how things are going with you, we’ve heard a lot here that lately something has been a bit weird. Aaaayyyy how did he really escape? oh yeah, you're not envious laughing well, in general, something like this)))
  67. +1
    1 July 2013 20: 30
    Gentlemen, news.
    "Former CIA employee Edward Snowden sent a request for political asylum in Russia on Sunday"
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  68. +1
    1 July 2013 20: 32
    I was in a hurry, sorry

    "According to the Los Angeles Times, Snowden met with Russian diplomats on Monday and submitted a request for political asylum to 15 countries. However, the publication did not indicate whether Snowden asked for asylum in Russia."
    1. 0
      1 July 2013 20: 42
      Quote: poquello
      However, the publication did not indicate whether Snowden asked for asylum in Russia."

      Continue
      Putin emphasized that Snowden “is a free person and considers himself a human rights activist.” “If he wants to leave and he will be accepted, please. He wants to stay, okay, but on the condition that he stops causing damage to our American partners. Apparently, he does not intend to do this.”

      http://rbcdaily.ru/politics/562949987650872
      1. itkul
        0
        1 July 2013 20: 49
        Quote: Cynic
        Putin emphasized that Snowden “is a free person and considers himself a human rights activist.” “If he wants to leave and he will be accepted, please. He wants to stay, okay, but on the condition that he stops causing damage to our American partners. Apparently, he does not intend to do this.”


        Why didn't you show the second part?

        At the same time, the Russian leader noted that he himself does not believe in the feasibility of this condition, since Snowden considers himself a human rights defender, fighter for human rights and a "new dissident", and therefore is not going to stop his (harmful for the United States) work. In this regard, the ex-CIA employee must choose another host country for himself and move there, Putin said.


        http://www.firstnews.ru/news/putin-esli-snouden-prekratit-vredit-ssha-to-smozhet
        -ostatsya-v-rossii/
        1. 0
          1 July 2013 21: 00
          Quote: itkul
          Why didn't you show the second part?

          I have about 300 messages in my RSS today. Count fifty dollars according to Snowden. Should I have posted all this here?
          hi
  69. shamil
    +3
    1 July 2013 20: 39
    We also looked through the military review forum - a hundred pounds! if so, THEN I HATE THE AMERICAN VALUES OF DEMOCRACY AS WELL AS ALL OF AMERICA, IE THE USA. SO THAT THEIR GOVERNMENT WILL DREAM EVERY NIGHT OF KILLED DEAD CIVILIAN RESIDENTS OF THOSE COUNTRIES WHERE THEY SOWED THEIR DEMOCRACY. SOULS OF THE DEAD KILLED BY NUCLEAR CHEMICAL WEAPONS. WHEN YOU FINALLY FLOODS!
  70. shamil
    +1
    1 July 2013 20: 46
    In Russia, don’t go to stay with grandma
  71. 0
    1 July 2013 20: 49
    Citizenship of the Russian Federation and work in the FSB.
  72. Yarosvet
    +1
    1 July 2013 21: 20
    __________________________________________
    1. +1
      3 July 2013 01: 51
      That's all. It would not be possible to even imagine a more cynical and rotten leak.
  73. +1
    1 July 2013 21: 25
    Well and further
    “Russia never extradites anyone anywhere and does not intend to extradite anyone. And no one has ever extradited anyone to us,” Putin said, answering the question under what conditions Russia is ready to extradite Snowden.”

    "Yesterday at 22.30 Moscow time, British citizen Sarah Harrison, on behalf of Edward Snowden, applied to the consulate at Sheremetyevo Airport with a request to grant him political asylum."
  74. shalk
    0
    1 July 2013 21: 32
    The condition under which Snowden can count on receiving asylum in Russia looks somewhat strange. The unexpected, downright paternalistic concern of the Russian President for the national interests of the United States is, to put it mildly, puzzling. Recently, GDP has not had any attacks of selfless love for Washington. One might say that the “joker” himself jumped into Putin’s sleeve. The cover of the fugitive CIA officer allowed Moscow to take the Americans by the gills like a man. Their endless whining and preoccupation with “democracy” and “human rights”, here and there, has already fed up everyone. At the same time, they themselves simply “got the wrong way.”
    1. 0
      2 July 2013 00: 25
      Quote: shalk
      The condition under which Snowden can count on receiving asylum in Russia looks somewhat strange.

      I would venture to suggest that Snowden was told almost in plain text not to lay out all his trump cards ahead of time. They may be useful to us too. Well, don’t tease the CIA officers too much. Otherwise, their tower will be completely demolished and they will break so much wood that everyone will have to clean up the mess.
    2. -2
      2 July 2013 00: 27
      Quote: shalk
      Unexpected, downright fatherly, concern of the President of the Russian Federation

      And to think?...It’s clear to a baby, to put it in slang, that this is trolling! Well, in fact, do you really think that Putin will publicly, for the whole world, in the presence of journalists, defend the interests of the United States SO STUPIDLY? He makes fun of the Americans these statements! Lord... the hedgehog understands...
  75. -1
    1 July 2013 22: 00
    This looks like a failure of a person’s well-functioning grandmother-soul system. The NSA's human resources department probably miscalculated their psychologists. But as many forum users offer citizenship and the FSB, it is fundamentally not rational. Why a kind of traitor to “democracy” and even a special service in the holy of holies. He who betrayed once will betray again. Get information from him, which is what the FSB is doing now, take note (cannot be trusted) and let him engage in tourism. I want to believe the person, but I can’t!
  76. stranik72
    +1
    1 July 2013 22: 15
    VVP does not have any trump cards behind him so as not to give Snowden away, unless someone or some other country helps him with this. We are weak primarily in the economic field, and in other areas we have problems beyond the roof, and this will always be the case if the GDP does not begin real reforms in the country.
    1. Medvedev and his government resign.
    2. Taking money abroad is equated to treason. (Like in Israel)
    3. Corrupt officials are subject to life imprisonment with confiscation.
    4. Raise your industry and agriculture.
    5. Radically revise the Criminal Code in the direction of tightening it for crimes against the individual and the state, the 5th column to the nail, etc.
    1. shalk
      0
      2 July 2013 00: 25
      The Americans need trump cards to get Snowden, not Russia so as not to extradite him. Objectively, Washington has no leverage over Moscow in this matter. On the contrary, the United States is dependent on Russia in some respects. Hence, the absence of “ultimatums” from officials from overseas. The rhetoric of unofficial persons is not taken into account.
      The state of the Russian economy has nothing to do with the extradition of Snowden to the Americans.
      1. stranik72
        +1
        2 July 2013 06: 17
        What are you saying, but you at least know where our money (gold and foreign exchange reserves) is located, and food dependence, and the element base in microelectronics, and so on. So I’m still kind of dependent.
    2. 0
      2 July 2013 00: 31
      I repeat... It's a pity that everyone who knows exactly how to lead the country already works as taxi drivers and hairdressers......
      1. 0
        2 July 2013 18: 53
        Quote: Tverichanka
        I repeat... It's a pity that everyone who knows exactly how to lead the country already works as taxi drivers and hairdressers......


        Smart uphill will not go
  77. phantom359
    0
    1 July 2013 22: 42
    The State Department should be screwed, Snowden should not be extradited as a matter of principle. You can't give in.
  78. 0
    1 July 2013 22: 53
    Yes, USA. Getting slapped is unpleasant. Get used to it - this won't be the last time.
  79. Yarosvet
    +2
    1 July 2013 23: 26
    ___________________________ bully ____________________________
  80. 0
    2 July 2013 00: 17
    Snowden asked political asylum In Russia
    1. +2
      2 July 2013 18: 26
      Quote: lewerlin53rus
      Snowden asked for political asylum in Russia

      Firstly, not him, but on his behalf.
      Secondly, he already refused, having familiarized himself with the conditions of the GDP.
      Well, what can you say _ Snowden is a representative of a relict tribe _ IDEALIST !
  81. waisson
    0
    2 July 2013 03: 26
    Former US CIA employee Edward Snowden, forced to hide from the authorities of his country in Russia, wrote a letter of gratitude to the authorities of Ecuador.
    Snowden thanked Ecuador for helping him fly to Russia and considering his application for political asylum in the Latin American country, Reuters reports.
    The agency reports that Snowden also states in the letter that the US authorities are pursuing him illegally, and he is ready to reveal other secrets of the American intelligence services.
    The battle for Snowden: an exchange of pleasantries at the highest level >>
    Earlier on Monday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that former American intelligence officer Edward Snowden could remain in the Russian Federation if he wanted, provided that he stopped causing damage to the United States.
    In turn, representatives of the consular post at Sheremetyevo Airport on Sunday, June 30, received an appeal from ex-CIA employee Edward Snowden, accused by the American authorities of espionage, with a request to grant him political asylum in Russia.
  82. 0
    2 July 2013 05: 27
    Apparently, Putin is waiting for another test, in the style of “You give us Snowden, and we will be more flexible on the topic of Syria.” For now, VVP behaves quite predictably, in his own style - he will let events settle down, and after that, with a saber, he will gallop on a white horse in the direction he wants. Not very noble, but it's politics.

    Hmmm. The only nice thing about this story is that another piece of news has arrived from overseas about the collapse of the American economy and the uproar among US citizens. It’s bad to live when you are sent on unpaid leave and fired, but you can live. Another thing this causes is the emergence of such “ideological” personalities as Snowden, with whom you don’t understand what to do.
    1. series
      0
      2 July 2013 08: 21
      for Putin, Snowden - traitor...
      Knowing this painful point of our President, the United States will be able to find an acceptable compromise. The exchange will be equivalent, therefore the United States will not make concessions on Syria. Probably Bout will be “pulled out” and an agreement on “mutual extradition” of criminals will be signed...There are a lot of Caucasian bandits who have settled in the USA.
      1. 0
        3 July 2013 08: 44
        Quote: S-200
        for Putin, Snowden is a traitor...
        Knowing this painful point of our President, the United States will be able to find an acceptable compromise. The exchange will be equivalent, therefore the United States will not make concessions on Syria. Probably Bout will be “pulled out” and an agreement on “mutual extradition” of criminals will be signed...There are a lot of Caucasian bandits who have settled in the USA.


        I’m not talking about real concessions regarding Syria, but about the promise of such concessions, which our government has been making for decades. For example, the result of such promises may be a specific date for Geneva 2, where Syria’s opponents, having agreed in advance, will refuse any compromises and deliberately fail the meeting.
  83. 0
    2 July 2013 14: 14
    Snowden, having heard under what conditions Putin announced to journalists that Russia would grant him asylum, has already abandoned this option.
  84. yuri p
    0
    2 July 2013 14: 23
    I wonder how our powers that be will get out of this situation. There is no way to extradite us, after outright pressure from the United States, we need to adhere to our own interests and show the world that it is impossible to push through Russia, only then will we be respected and taken into account and not, as under Yeltsin, with his CIA government .
  85. unkou
    0
    2 July 2013 14: 46
    You haven’t heard that the entire database of Internet users has been leaked to the network with open access! There is all the information from personal photos and videos to personal correspondence and copies of documents. Of course, you can delete your data if you do not want everyone to see them. Here is the link http://oua.be/1298
  86. georg737577
    0
    2 July 2013 15: 54
    I’m afraid that in the current situation, Snowden’s death from an accident is the best solution to the problem from the point of view of both Russian and American politicians... It’s a pity if this is exactly what happens.
    1. 0
      2 July 2013 19: 02
      Quote: georg737577
      Snowden's accidental death is the best solution to the problem

      Well no .
      He is already used material, launched a wave like _ And in the morning they woke up
  87. shalk
    0
    3 July 2013 22: 30
    Quote: stranik72
    What are you saying, but you at least know where our money (gold and foreign exchange reserves) is located, and food dependence, and the element base in microelectronics, and so on. So I’m still kind of dependent.


    There is no lethal economic dependence on the United States for Russia. And “your” money is not going anywhere. Do you even understand what blocking Russian government accounts by the Americans would mean? Snowden is “nothing” in the relationship between Moscow and Washington. This was publicly stated by senior US officials, including the President. There is no need to fall into idle talk.
  88. RakeRerdoke
    0
    4 July 2013 15: 30
    Two boys are sitting near the entrance to a medical laboratory. One roars like a beluga, smearing tears and snot with his sleeves. The second one asks him:
    - Ma-alchik, why are you so scared?
    First to him:
    - I came to take a blood test.....
    - Well?! So what's so scary about that? Why are you crying?
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  93. strange and pretty meaningless
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