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Homeland must love unconditionally, because it is given to you from above

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Homeland must love unconditionally, because it is given to you from above



Interview Nikolai Starikov resource Topdialog.ru

Nikolai Viktorovich, at the June ONF congress you said that it was necessary to work out a new popular ideology — an ideology of love for one’s country. How will Russians explain how their homeland begins?

There are things that are natural for a person, like love for their mother, love for their homeland. These are things of the same order, it is inherent in man initially. It is impossible to teach him to love the Motherland, but he can be taught not to love her. It can be knocked from the path to which it is intended by birth. Here it can be done. Strictly speaking, this is what liberal propaganda is doing, not only in Russia, but throughout the world. A person is inspired to disrespect stories, a person is told that our history is a chain of continuous mistakes, crimes, misunderstandings, which Russia only did, that it fought, seized other countries. In short, form a negative image of the country.

At the same time, you can lie, slander, pull out exclusively negative moments, distort facts and tell bad things about only one person, not to say anything about the rest - you get the impression that only this person, only this country, is bad.

What is actually happening on the world stage? Russia is a unique state and civilizational entity. And in our history there were difficult periods, and in the history of other states there were periods no less complex, no less bloody. But we are told only the negative and only about us. And about all the others, it's positive, so it seems that when Ivan the Terrible was here to restore order in the country, it means that democracy reigned in all other countries and there were “free elections”. There was nothing like that. There were Varfolomeevsky nights. The Huguenots slaughtered Catholics, and the Indians were massacred by hundreds of thousands. And the slave trade flourished when people were caught in Africa. Packs of sharks floated behind these "free" caravans of democratic British slavers, who were waiting for the next deceased slave to be thrown overboard. All this was.

Work on the formation of a negative attitude towards our country is being deliberately conducted, it is simply invisible. And now, to stop this work, to push the liberal ideology into the margins of public opinion, this is the main task.

In Vladimir Solovyov’s philosophy there is a division into maternal love — unconditional, absolute, and fatherly — which is based on the child’s successes and achievements. Do you think love for the motherland is the love of a father or mother?

I disagree with him. As a father of two daughters, I cannot say that I love them differently, less than my wife, their mother loves them. Homeland must love unconditionally, because it is given to you from above. You were born in this country, you grew up in this country, and the country and your parents did the maximum so that you become a worthy, intelligent, beautiful, well-bred person. Exposing some of the conditions of your love is the very egoism to which liberalism pushes us.

Motherland must be loved simply for what it is, and be proud of the centuries-long history of victories and accomplishments that were. Then we must fight to ensure that today's reality, especially tomorrow, gives us a new reason for pride. But if something is wrong in the country, this is a reason to change the situation, and not a reason to say that I need a new homeland.

And yet, what can be proud of our country today?

By the fact that over the decades of liberal propaganda, we were able to maintain our main difference from the west - the pursuit of justice, humanity, and the very love for the Motherland, which we have so carefully tried and tried to erase from us.

We have a great country, we have a great future. Those geopolitical defeats that we experienced are temporary. But they risk becoming permanent if we do nothing. We see that Russia 2000 of the year and Russia 2013 of the year in the international arena have completely different weight. Without us, today's international issues are not being resolved. So we are moving in the right direction. As for internal problems, there are naturally a lot of them, and they remain. But these are problems of a slightly different level than those faced by the majority of our population in the middle of the 90s.

Material wealth has increased in many ways, so the problems of the spiritual order come to the fore today. Patriotism - about which few people spoke in 90's. The question before was one - what will tomorrow be prepared for your children for breakfast? Today, this question is still facing many of our compatriots, and they need help. But many more people think about the problems of spiritual choice. This is also evidence that we are moving in the right direction.

Calling yourself a patriot and doing business in another country is false patriotism?

Of course, you need to support domestic producers. Especially in areas where a foreign product is no better. For example, how is New Zealand oil better than Vologda? Vologda is better, and it is ours. In such a situation, it seems to me, the patriot is simply obliged to choose a Russian product. But in the field of, for example, automobile production, the samples of domestic automotive equipment do not yet reach the highest international standards, so everyone can make their own choice.

As for doing business abroad, this is again a special case. You can do business anywhere. It is important to love your country, it is important that children study in our country, as a last resort, abroad, but it is imperative that they return to apply their knowledge at home. As for my children, they studied, study and will study only in Russia. I think that's right. But I can’t say that none of today's young people study abroad. Here everyone decides for himself. Do business where you want, but pay taxes, and understand that Russia is your homeland and the place of life of your children, and not just some kind of training ground for making money.

A single history textbook for secondary schools, which is planned to be developed by the end of this year, is one of the measures to raise patriotic feelings?

This is a newly built destroyed foundation of the building. In the Soviet Union, the Russian Empire, in today's USA and Western Europe there is and was a single history textbook. It may be in different covers, with different names and under the names of different authors, but, in fact, it is the same.

In the US, there is no alternative point of view on past events of history. No one in the United States advocates that dropping two atomic bombs on Japan was a war crime, and was not caused by any military necessity. Such a point of view somewhere on the Internet may be present, but you will not find this point of view in any textbook. On the contrary, in dozens of textbooks you will read that it was necessary to reduce the casualties, speed up the process of surrendering Japan, and so on. But this is a lie.

Since the beginning of this year, two domestic films about the heroes of the Soviet past - Legend No. XXUMX and Gagarin have appeared on movie screens. The first in space. Pictures received a lot of positive feedback from the audience, the box office is huge. Does this mean that we are now in dire need of such heroes as hockey player Valery Kharlamov, cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin — heroes of real ones, not made by PR-technologies?

My favorite sport is hockey, so I naturally watched the Kharlamov film. Great movie! "Gagarin" has not yet seen.

We have always been told that bed scenes, corpses and blood are inserted into films, because without this no one will watch them: people are bored and uninteresting. The recent successes of our cinema completely refute this false thesis. There is not a single corpse in the film about Kharlamov. No explicit bed scenes there either. And, nevertheless, everyone likes the film, the film provoked enthusiastic responses.

They can only have negative heroes. Here are the heroes of American militants? This is either fictional characters with supernatural abilities that protect people from someone there. In America, all the characters invented. Who else are the heroes? Bank robbers, murderers, prostitutes - you will not find a single normal person in the heroes there. Well, in a pinch, this is a policeman who violates the law.

Watch Western series, which are so smoothly pumped into domestic series: no one works there. They do not understand what they do day and night: sit in restaurants, drive expensive cars - but do not work. Accordingly, a certain matrix of behavior is being created and projected that it seems to work as indecent to work, but at the same time it is necessary to have the degree of wealth that appears only after long hard work. A gap is created - no one wants to work, but wants to have everything.

Well, limit the display or ban such films?

I think you need to use the best international experience. In particular, in France a certain percentage of films must be locally produced. But here two processes should go in parallel.
First, there must be films of good quality, in order to have something to show. Because only the films of the Soviet period of today's young viewer do not satisfy. We need to create new heroes, new films. And, little by little, force out the western ones, by some smooth measures. Including, maybe, such as in France. We are now on the leading TV channels do not already see the Western series - there are only domestic series. But here is the question of the quality of these series.

Often express the opinion that the truly great domestic films are either made in the USSR, or made about the USSR. Do you agree with that?

I agree that in 20 years nothing has been offered that one could be proud of. Since the most interesting films before Kharlamov and Gagarin re-told us the stories and films made in the Soviet Union - that is, the old stories in a new way, while nothing new was created. The absence, this vacuum of positive ideas, goodies is felt. Sensing this, cinematographers now began to make perfectly correct films.

Are we going to live in nostalgia for the Union for a long time?


We live in nostalgia for the greatness that was in the Soviet Union and the Russian Empire. That is why the patriotic spectrum can be divided into two large parts - these are big patriots of the Soviet Union and big patriots of the Russian Empire. These two patriotic spectra should eventually unite in order to reconnect the artificially broken continuity of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union and move on.

Let's talk about the West. The United States recently stirred up a wiretapping scandal - and people began to massively buy Orwell’s dystopian novel 1984, warning of the threat of totalitarianism. What is this fear?

No, this is a definite epiphany. Just once we were told that Orwell wrote about the Soviet Union. Orwell actually wrote about the West. The famous slogan “War is peace” is what we see now, for example, in the Middle East, when we are told about democracy in the world, while bombing Libya and going to bomb Syria.

Another thing is that our writers of the Soviet period also wrote their books about Western civilization - I mean the Strugatsky brothers. One of the episodes of the film “Inhabited Island” tells us that there are some emitters that convey certain ideas and moods to the public. When they are turned off, people change. So this is today's Western media, which create certain moods in almost all of the Western world.

But it was all true. Take the posters of the Soviet period - it says about the struggle of the Arab people for independence. Everything seems to be today: absolutely relevant. This tells us that nothing changes in politics. And the West, having no ideological confrontation of the Soviet Union, not having any armed force that would be equal to it today, openly begins to model its own platform, destroying all dissent, and in fact turning into a totalitarian democratic regime. Because to speak today about pluralism in the West is somehow ridiculous.

But in Russia?

And in Russia, it is democracy in the sense in which its democrats understand. They can express their point of view, we see them on TV, we hear them on the radio - everything is present. Here the liberal ideology is actually present along with the ideology of patriotism. And, unfortunately, this liberal ideology still dominates.

What will happen to the West next? Will it become even more like the world described by Orwell?

Of course, yes, because if they embarked on a certain path, then it is very difficult for them to turn off. Otherwise, they will have to admit that over the centuries they lied to their own people, and then
everything will collapse.

Does the totalitarian Orwellian "plague" of Russia threaten?

We never had totalitarianism. We had a certain social system - exactly the same as the social system in the West. He had his own characteristics, but the question of the predominance of a certain
ideology, a certain ideological line was decided in the same way as in the West. There was no difference.

And the talk about what was here crushed, strangled, poisoned, and there everything blossomed, crumble completely, if you look at today's West. If everything was so free and democratic there, then why is there only one point of view today? Why did the collapse of alternative points of view, the dismantling of this beautiful facade, occur after the collapse of the Soviet Union, and we see today only one point of view that is being imposed all the time? What kind of pluralism can we talk about when there is only one - well, now two, - reserve currencies? What kind of democracy is there? What kind of multipolarity is there?
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  1. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 28 June 2013 06: 03 New
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    The most terrible threat of our foreman was - I will teach you to love the motherland am And after all, they loved 24 hours a day, some on the parade ground with a broom. Someone in the outhouse with a toothbrush. wassat soldier
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 28 June 2013 06: 41 New
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      Quote: Ruslan67
      The most terrible threat of our foreman was - I will teach you to love the motherland

      I agree that many of the foremen had a kind of peculiar interpretation of the concept of "Love for the Motherland" (some also had "freedom"). yes
      But seriously,
      Work on the formation of a negative attitude towards our country is being deliberately conducted, it is simply invisible. And now, to stop this work, to push the liberal ideology into the margins of public opinion, this is the main task.
      ,
      that's what is scary and disgusting. Starting with Gorbaty and actively continuing by the LADY and his team, all the so-called neoliberal reforms lead to making us (this is unlikely to pass with us) and our youth "Ivans who do not remember kinship." To prevent this is the task of every patriotic Russian.
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 28 June 2013 07: 05 New
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        Quote: Garrin
        , many foremen had a kind of peculiar interpretation of the concept of "Love for the Motherland" (some also had a kind of "freedom"). yes

        They usually taught freedom to RESPECT! bully
    2. Papakiko
      Papakiko 28 June 2013 08: 10 New
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      Quote: Ruslan67
      And after all, they loved 24 hours a day, some on the parade ground with a broom. Someone in the outhouse with a toothbrush.

      How strong is "love for the Motherland" at the moment?
      Is it enough for children and grandchildren, or do they also need to instill "love"?
      The main "weaning off love" is the housing and communal services system with management companies and roads.
      Below is an example of the program of housing and communal services "1000 Yards".
      Before this program, the water did not stand up and the containers were simpler and the asphalt was in small waves, and now there is some sea-akiyana and even asphalt. Thanks to the native party, called.
      1. Ulysses
        Ulysses 28 June 2013 10: 29 New
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        A good foreman of the Soviet school would not hurt here.
        I would quickly teach the "personnel" of the management company "Love the Motherland". angry
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 28 June 2013 11: 40 New
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          Quote: Ulysses
          A good foreman of the Soviet school would not hurt here

          But we know of cases when the same foremen, and later ensigns, did not forget about themselves, their beloved. Where is the guarantee that that foreman, having received his share, will not join the ranks of those who forget about themselves?
      2. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 28 June 2013 11: 38 New
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        Quote: Papakiko
        Thanks to the native party, called.

        Thank you for the opportunity to put a car on the lawn and in the shade ??? It all depends on us nonsense. Design - keep silent! They laid asphalt, did not make slopes, who is to blame? And not a worker, and not a foreman! The consignment! Garbage thrown anywhere. The party is guilty. The car was driven to the lawn, the party was to blame. And when will the people themselves begin to answer for their actions ??? After all, everything that is done is done by the people! Or is the party only guilty of everything?
    3. Ivanovich47
      Ivanovich47 28 June 2013 20: 13 New
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      He began the service as an ordinary. He served the USSR and Russia for over 30 years. Broom and parade ground, and where without them in military life. Never regretted it.
  2. does it
    does it 28 June 2013 06: 14 New
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    There were Bartholomew’s nights. Huguenots slaughtered Catholics, and Indians destroyed by hundreds of thousands
    or, on the contrary, the Catholics of the Huguenots. This is what liberal propaganda is doing, in fact, not only in Russia, but throughout the world. A person is taught disrespect for history, a person is told that our history is a chain of continuous mistakes, crimes, misunderstandings, that Russia only did, that it fought, and invaded other countries. In short, they form a negative image of the country. I remember when Bush Jr. was President in the United States. In the United States, thousands of demonstrations with the slogan "No war with Russia" were held. will die "
  3. smel
    smel 28 June 2013 06: 18 New
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    I love my homeland. But in many ways disagrees with the opinion of Mr. Starikov. Love for the Motherland is not an unconditional acceptance of all joys and sorrows, not love of all advantages and disadvantages. Only a defective son who does not think and does not care about his mother can love this way. Sometimes children take an active part in restoring the health of their parents. Sometimes it hurts for their parents. But children should not cause thoughtless, useless pain. So neither the efforts of EP nor the attempts of the swamp impress me. But the responsibility, I believe, should still be the same for everyone - for the bandit, and for Serdyukov, and for those who raised and magnified them (and did not notice for years of their harmful activities). So, future joys and present let Mr. Starikov rejoice in the trials. And I live in my country HERE AND NOW
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 28 June 2013 06: 46 New
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      Quote: smel
      So neither the efforts of EP nor the attempts of the swamp impress me. But the responsibility, I believe, should still be the same for everyone - for the bandit, and for Serdyukov, and for those who raised and magnified them (and did not notice for years of their harmful activities)

      I completely agree with this. But how can this be done, given the "mutual responsibility" that is inherent in the current government?
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 28 June 2013 07: 53 New
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      Quote: smel
      Only a defective son who does not think and does not care about his mother can love this way.

      I do not agree a bit, not so: so the son loves his own, albeit defective, albeit sometimes not caring for him, but still a mother.
      1. smel
        smel 28 June 2013 08: 30 New
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        That's what I said. That the caring son will cherish the mother, provide, treat, if necessary, and the boob will accept her all her life for who she is. And if she goes to get into the trash, dunce will be happy too, = mother nevertheless
      2. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 28 June 2013 11: 21 New
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        There are different mothers, and believe me, there are those whom they hate. And there are mothers who humiliate their children, and there are even those who kill. Love for the motherland is not love for the mother, it is love for the family in the first place. He who does not know his family does not know what the Motherland is. Modern mothers are precisely the destroyers of the clan, it was from the 20th century that emancipation began, and as a result the destruction of clan relations. The destruction of the family is the destruction of patriotism. So all the words about love for the motherland, as about love for the mother today are worthless slogans. In the old days, mother was the keeper of the hearth, tribal foundations, and traditions, today everything, absolutely all women are categorically against tribal traditions and foundations. Egoism is elevated to the rank of norm.
        1. Uhe
          Uhe 29 June 2013 01: 41 New
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          I agree with you, but at the expense of absolutely all women, you’ve grabbed it over the edge. Perhaps you are not talking to those women;)
    3. baltika-18
      baltika-18 28 June 2013 12: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: smel
      I love my homeland. But in many ways disagrees with the opinion of Mr. Starikov.

      He set a minus article. I don’t want to discuss his love for the Motherland. I just don’t believe him. So it’s clear to me that this is a project of the authorities to dust the brains of the people.
      On what this project gained popularity? Nationalization, patriotism, Stalin.
      But after gaining popularity, they organized a party called Air Defense (Great Fatherland Party). After reading the program, we will see that there is not a word about nationalization there. Yes, the very nationalization of Messrs. Starikov and Fedorov (and this is one company) is understood in a very original way. It turns out that the transfer of property in some way to private patriotic hands, in other words, was taken from Abramovich, given to Ivanov. And if Ivanov turns out to be a patriot, smelling billions, the guys are modestly silent about this.
      By the way, many beloved Fedorov is the ideologist not only of Starikov's party, but also of another party "Free Russia" of Misha Dvorkovich, the brother of the well-known Arkady.
  4. Nayhas
    Nayhas 28 June 2013 06: 22 New
    +1
    The bastard again tries to pull the love of the motherland on the state ...
    1. builder74
      builder74 28 June 2013 19: 50 New
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      Quote: Nayhas
      trying to stretch love for the motherland to the state ...

      This is what is called "good intentions ..." This is exactly how they justified the betrayal in the war, remember the Vlasovites, the former White Guards, etc.
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 28 June 2013 20: 52 New
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        Quote: builder74
        remember the Vlasovites, former White Guards, etc.

        Please do not confuse the Vlasovites with the White Guards. These are very different and incompatible categories. White Guards fought for Its The homeland that raised them, educated many of them. And if this good initiative fell into bad hands, the authors of this idea are not to blame. I will give you a small fragment of the idea of ​​the White Cause. Read the rest in the book of V.V.Shulgin. 1920 year. Shulgin himself is one of the authors of this idea.
        Whites adhere to the rules of decency and honor. If someone slipped, comrades and friends will support him. If he falls, they will raise him. But if he wants to wallow in the mud, he will no longer be allowed into the "White House": white people are not white-handed, but they are neat.
        White is friendly and polite to each other. The older ones are strict and affectionate, the younger ones are respectful and faithful, but they only bend their heads with a bow ... (White’s back does not bend).
        Belykh is sick of drunken drunkenness, spitting and swearing ... Whites die, trying to smile at their friends. They are faithful to themselves, their homeland and comrades to the last breath.
        White people do not despise the Russian people ... After all, if you do not love him, why die and suffer so bitterly? Isn't it easier to dissolve in the rest of the world? After all, the light is wide ... But whites do not leave, they pour their blood for Russia ... Whites are not internationalists, they are Russians ...

        1. Uhe
          Uhe 29 June 2013 01: 50 New
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          Regarding "whites adhere to the rules of decency and honor." The first captured white officers were released by the Reds on a written refusal to participate in the war. Whites signed up and immediately went to fight again, after which the newly captured were already shot, and then everyone else. Where is honor and decency here? Honor comes from the word honesty, and keeping this word is honesty and honor;)

          Love for one’s homeland is to go against one’s own people and kill it, and invite invaders-aliens from the Entente and Jaopnia to help for a more effective murder? And to close their eyes or help in all these atrocities committed by the invaders is also part of that strange love for their homeland, in which there is no place for ordinary peasant rebels? Strange kind of love. More than half of the officers of the imperial army, including half of the gene. army headquarters and the whole gene. headquarters of the Navy, sided with the Bolsheviks and the people and fought in the Red Army. Apparently, they had a different understanding of the Motherland and love for it.

          Unfortunately, the whites were far from the ideal Russians that they often talk about now. If they were ideal Russians, praised by current apologists, they would have managed to avoid a civil war, an intervention, and many other subsequent disasters and losses for our people.
          1. Russ69
            Russ69 29 June 2013 02: 00 New
            +1
            Quote: Uhe
            Unfortunately, the whites were far from the ideal Russians that they often talk about now. If they were ideal Russians, praised by current apologists, they would have managed to avoid a civil war, an intervention, and many other subsequent disasters and losses for our people.

            There, the people were also different. In other matters, like the Reds. Civil war is not grateful. And cruelty was lacking on both sides.
            In World War II, emigration was also divided and many did not want to cooperate with Hitler in any way.
          2. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 29 June 2013 09: 22 New
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            Quote: Uhe
            Unfortunately, the whites were far from the ideal Russians that they often talk about

            In my message you did not notice one phrase, I quote it personally for you:
            And if this good initiative fell into bad hands, the authors of this idea are not to blame

            Moreover, I did not rush you or anyone to answer !!! You were invited read the a book that you obviously didn’t manage to do in such a short time. smile And there it explains why that movement, the case is called WHITE And when it appeared. I’ll say in secret that initially, not as opposed to red !!! What most of us don’t know. Oh how! What happened next is a different conversation.

            Let's stop at this and talk about this topic after you master the specified book. By the way, in the one that is in my library, besides 1920, there is also "Days". Shulgin himself was a direct participant in all those events. Wikipedia in your hands! And his works !!!
  5. krasin
    krasin 28 June 2013 06: 33 New
    +4
    The article is a huge plus. It’s profitable. I hate liberalists who stick alien ideas into my head! Tolerance and all that teach us how to live, those who are crap with their ideas, do not understand what is alien to us, but they teach and teach!
  6. fenix57
    fenix57 28 June 2013 06: 51 New
    +5
    "How will they explain to the Russians where the Motherland begins?"- Or maybe just remember:
    Where does the homeland begin?
    From the picture in your letter,
    With good and faithful comrades,
    Living in a nearby yard,

    Or maybe it starts
    From the song that our mother sang to us,
    Since in any tests
    We do not take anyone away.

    Where does the Motherland begin ...
    From the cherished bench at the gate,
    From the same birch tree in the field
    Under the wind bending, growing.

    Or maybe it starts
    Since the spring funeral of the starling
    And from this road country,
    Which does not see the end ... Words: M. Matusovsky
    1. builder74
      builder74 28 June 2013 19: 52 New
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      And where about the old paternal budennovka?
  7. My address
    My address 28 June 2013 06: 51 New
    +2
    Good article. Calm and, in many ways, demonstrative. Although the bulk of theses were expressed in the opinions and comments of the VO. The impression that the average visitor wrote the site.

    Perhaps it was not necessary to make the headline "SUPPLY ABOVE".
  8. Renat
    Renat 28 June 2013 09: 44 New
    +2
    I don’t remember whose words it was, but it was said very clearly and unequivocally: "Whether it is right or not, it is my Fatherland." Do not blame me if the quote is not entirely accurate. The main point is clear.
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 28 June 2013 11: 33 New
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      the words of a slave and only, a free man will not say so
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 28 June 2013 14: 20 New
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        Quote: vladsolo56
        the words of a slave and only, a free man will not say so

        The words of the soldier. An officer who is ready to sacrifice everything for the sake of his homeland. Whatever it is and whoever runs it. And who did not drool patriotic for any reason, but sacredly believed in the greatness of his Fatherland.
        "Somewhere in the capital, full of patriots,
        But they feel their homeland better in the trenches! "
    2. IRBIS
      IRBIS 28 June 2013 14: 13 New
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      Quote: Renat
      "Right or not, but it is my Fatherland"

      It was said by a German at the Nuremberg Trials. Literal translation: "Right or wrong, but this is my Fatherland."
  9. Opera
    Opera 28 June 2013 09: 44 New
    +5
    Homeland and state are different concepts! Unconditional (correct) love for the Motherland should not obscure the vices of the state. The fight against the vices of the state should not destroy the homeland!
  10. polly
    polly 28 June 2013 09: 59 New
    +5
    The right words! And who our parasites specifically specify and is not required ...
    1. Renat
      Renat 28 June 2013 10: 03 New
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      Why clarify them? Turn on the telly and opa, here they are.
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 28 June 2013 10: 30 New
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      I would change the demotivator: Patriotism - the country's immunity, destroying parasites.
  11. a
    a 28 June 2013 10: 10 New
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    how to love the motherland if she does nothing to be loved? If the leadership of the homeland is incompetent and corrupt? If the homeland violates my most basic rights? You can’t love such a homeland. But, the author is right - the Motherland is given from above. And to love her you need to change her. change yourself.
    1. Ulysses
      Ulysses 28 June 2013 10: 34 New
      +3
      Homeland owes nothing to anyone.
      “They don’t choose their homeland.” (In the literal and figurative sense of the word)

      From the party and the leadership of the state, the matter is different. what
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 28 June 2013 13: 23 New
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      tramples on your rights not MOTHERLAND ----- state, government, etc. and MOTHERLAND ---- she MOTHER ............ and MOTHER must be loved --- with all my soul, with all my heart , as Gogol said ---- "God gave everyone sho ............"
      1. a
        a 28 June 2013 16: 35 New
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        so, after all, the state and government force themselves to love as if they are the homeland.
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 28 June 2013 16: 49 New
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          Quote: uno
          so, after all, the state and government force themselves to love as if they are the homeland.

          Well, here, dear, you went too far, as they say. Do you personally have evidence of this? There is reason to say so? If you follow the links, you are sure to find it, only they do not apply to Russia, please note.
          http://politobzor.net/show-691-eto-tebe-ne-totalitarnyy-sovok-eto-ssha-tut-ne-de
          rneshsya.html
          http://politobzor.net/show-1628-eto-tebe-ne-totalitarnyy-sovok-eto-ssha-tut-ne-d
          erneshsya-2.html
  12. sashka
    sashka 28 June 2013 10: 58 New
    -5
    The article is incomprehensible .. What they say all the time "look at Europe". Compatriots live in Asia. Where the factories were evacuated. What does Europe have to do with it? By the way, the IDPs have more PATRIOTISM than the "ethnic" Russians. You are no match for Us .. You have squandered the Country, so stand still and be silent. And we are going here to work and revive. And you can continue to shout that there is no one else in the world except the Great Putin. You can't even imagine the level of education that was there. Russia is in 10th place out of 10. After Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, you come to Russia as to a country of d ... covs who still cannot share and prove something.
  13. Mhpv
    Mhpv 28 June 2013 11: 15 New
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    There are things that are natural for a person, like love for their mother, love for their homeland. These are things of the same order, this is inherent in man from the very beginning. It is impossible to teach him to love the Motherland, but he can be taught to not love him

    Perhaps it’s hard to agree with this. Only the love of the mother can be natural, since the child the first thing that she feels and sees is the mother (if she is just a normal mother, of course), even love for the father comes with time, and not immediately, it also depends from the father himself. For a baby, child, and then a teenager, the Motherland is his family and home, and only with time does the concept of the Motherland appear in him, which is instilled in the family, kindergarten, and then at school. So you can and should teach to love the Motherland and not to wean. And so as not to say, but in the USSR, great attention was paid to this It’s probably many of us have only now understood the meaning of the Octobrists, Pioneers and Komsomol members, because in the USA everything was and is in their scouts.
    It is necessary to limit the rental of foreign films, especially Hollywood ones. Just that Sunday I watched Sea Battle, what a mess, even my nine-year-old son understood this and looked at it with a smile, but how much was invested by American patriotism that even the Missouri museum ship with the veterans of the fleet went into battle, and where are our films just not a semblance of "White Tiger", not counting the latest novelties.
    Quote: uno
    how to love the motherland if she does nothing to be loved?

    It is not a place that colors a person, but a person a place.
  14. sashka
    sashka 28 June 2013 11: 21 New
    -1
    We know our Ancestors, who is from where, from which part of Russia we came there. And grandfathers and great-grandfathers. Moreover, Fathers and Mothers. My brothers and I myself, to the Parents we turn to you. And I am already over 50. And you the Russians are weak ??? Respect for the Motherland is brought up from the cradle. The song "Where the Motherland Begins" is not just empty words. We were brought up like this .. And you ???
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 28 June 2013 14: 32 New
      +3
      Quote: Sasha
      My brothers and I, I turn to you for the Parents. And I already have for 50. And you Russians are WEAK ???


      And this, excuse me, is an indicator of what? Maybe this is just a tribute to traditions, a national feature? And what are we, Russians, "weak"? I call my mom "you", but my love and respect for her is no less than yours.
      And I don’t know my ancestors, mom and dad were brought up in an orphanage. All of their relatives died in the war when they were babies and what - am I not a patriot? Or do I love the Motherland less than those who know their relatives before the time of Adam?
      The arguments you have are not entirely correct. What do you mean to say?
      1. sashka
        sashka 30 June 2013 11: 30 New
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        Quote: IRBIS
        I call my mom on "you

        With such a seemingly "trifle" begins disrespect for Parents and the Motherland .. Pay attention to the root of the word ..
    2. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 28 June 2013 15: 07 New
      +3
      Quote: Sasha
      we appeal to parents

      I am already over 60. :) I addressed my father as "you", to my mother with "you" after reading books and choosing such an address independently and consciously. And now, many years after the death of my father (I was 18) and my mother, I come to the conclusion that it is precisely the reference to "you" that brings them closer.
      Moreover, when addressing "you", both parties should use it. It's my personal opinion. Or, as fashionable among young people, IMHO.
      1. Uhe
        Uhe 29 June 2013 02: 16 New
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        You are absolutely right. A primordially Russian address to each other - to "you". "You" came to us in the time of Peter I and gradually began to spread with the accession of the Germans to the throne of Russia. Then it crawled to the very bottom.

        Appealing to "you" and "we" about yourself in the first person is a consequence of the split of the Christian faith into two camps, Catholic and Orthodox. The split also affected the integrity of the Roman Empire, which split into two parts - the Roman, later captured by the Germans, and Byzantium. But both the Pope and the Emperor seemed to speak one for two, therefore we-you appeared - one in two persons and expresses the thoughts of two people and two rulers of one double empire :).

        The kings from Europe were jealous of such "greatness", so gradually they also switched to this fashioning in relation to their loved ones. Gradually came to small nobles and began to be considered a sign of politeness. As I said, it came to us through the cesspool that Peter the Antichrist had dug. Through this shit, in general, a lot of anti-Russian things came to us, unfortunately, which ultimately resulted in the collapse of that Empire and the fruits of which we are "disentangling" to this day.

        Well, why did we start to address parents with "you"? Again, it came from the nobles, who did not speak Russian at all - they forgot how to learn over time, but knew how to speak French. And many of them rarely communicated with their parents at all, being raised by nurses, governors and others. What kind of close human connection is there? Strangers, sometimes not even fed with mother's milk, brought up by Frenchmen and other nakedness.

        How did Russian people in their prayers turn to god or gods? No misters! This is the only polite appeal to someone who belongs to your Family, because the Russians honored themselves as children of the God of the Family. Therefore, you are absolutely right.
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 29 June 2013 02: 56 New
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          No misters! Here is the only polite appeal to someone who belongs to your Family
          tell the man, why are you on the site contacting relatives? Or only to those whom you do not consider the grandchildren of Svarog?
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 29 June 2013 09: 34 New
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            Oddly enough, I would be glad to communicate on "you", but it does not work. There will certainly be a certain interlocutor who will declare that I owe him something.
            What I like about the Azerbaijani language is that there is no reference to "YOU" there. Only plural. Although in English "you" and "you" do not differ in spelling. Those. this is one word !!! And most likely, it is "You", although they are trying to pass it off as "You".
            1. Hleb
              Hleb 29 June 2013 11: 34 New
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              Eugene did not write to you, but I agree. All the more, I said already, if there are colleagues here who "ate from the same pot", what are you talking about ..
              1. Ezhaak
                Ezhaak 29 June 2013 11: 54 New
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                Quote: Gleb
                I didn’t write to you, but I agree

                I also understood this, but since this is a forum, we are "talking, getting warm" with everyone. laughing hi
    3. Hleb
      Hleb 28 June 2013 15: 32 New
      0
      I always called your parents to you. But your father and mother called you to
  15. sashka
    sashka 28 June 2013 11: 48 New
    +1
    When politics has reached a dead end, it remains to look for Enemies. Internal or External. Moreover, why look, they themselves are on every corner. Swamp Naval NGOs, etc. The main thing about the State Department is not to forget. Well, everything immediately becomes clear and correct. I'm doing everything right, except that the enemies put sticks in the wheels .. Funny .. Is this for kindergarten? or on "Dear Russians".
  16. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 28 June 2013 13: 39 New
    +1
    Homeland must love unconditionally, because it is given to you from above

    That's why I see how much our homeland is "loved" by those pseudo-repatriates who crawled to Israel or the states. Cosmopolitans are shitty, where the ass is warm, where you can steal, there is the Motherland. Once at the forum, a "repatriate" spoke up about how she froze in winter and how delightful she is now without snow, in her new homeland. Yes ugh at her.
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 29 June 2013 11: 45 New
      0
      You don’t have to cut everyone’s shoulders here - for example, there are many scientists who left for the same states in the early 90s and made a very good career there, who now establish scientific work in Russia and implement the latest methods, making their way through our bureaucratic cordons. But they could put a bolt on the country and live happily beyond the hill.
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 29 June 2013 12: 05 New
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        Quote: Albert1988
        There’s no need to cut everyone’s shoulder - there are many, for example, scientists who left for the same states at the beginning of 90

        Well, how can I not demonstrate that I specifically pointed out the category of false patriots who are ready to instantly overthrow?
        Quote: Hedgehog
        The motherland is "loved" by those pseudo recipients,

        Just think about the meaning of the word "repatriate"! How can a person who did not live in Israel "return" to his homeland ???
        Repatriation (from lat. Repatriate) - homecoming.

        The term is usually used in relation to prisoners of war, displaced persons, refugees, emigrants with the restoration of citizenship or return to the country of residence of the insured in the event of an insured event.

        Can you name me an ashkenaz who lived in Israel, moved to the USSR and then returned to the same Israel?
        But the opposite is present. I went to Israel, looked, saw that he was better in Russia and returned. This is definitely a repatriate. Pupyrchaty seems to be a vivid example of this. good
  17. Odysseus
    Odysseus 28 June 2013 15: 27 New
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    Well, if, for example, a person was born in Riga in the USSR, and now lives in Latvia. What kind of homeland should he love? Socialist USSR or bourgeois Latvia?
    And what to do with the fact that those who teach us "to love the Motherland" are quietly using the public property created in the USSR for their own private purposes, buying castles in Scotland and football clubs in England?
    1. Uhe
      Uhe 29 June 2013 02: 27 New
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      Well, probably, for a start, such a person should understand that the homeland and the state are still different concepts. Motherland, as it has already been said here, - from the word "kind", that land that gave birth, nurtured, which gives energy for life, nourishes with juices; and states, that is, the political regime, are changing. It's good when you love both that and that, as, for example, I - I love the place where I was born, and I love the country in which I was born, that is, the USSR. And it's bad when there is no state that was yours, but the authorities came to your homeland, behaving like occupiers. Here the actions are already clear;)

      So, I think, not Latvia, especially bourgeois and Russophobic, you need to love, but the land on which you were born, of your ancestors, that is, your race and your homeland;)

      And the USSR was the best state on Earth. Far from ideal, and therefore died, but the best. The state of the titans, for which there were no barriers.
    2. Xnumx kopeek
      Xnumx kopeek 29 June 2013 02: 56 New
      0
      "bourgeois Latvia" /////////// Unilius fin is waiting for a gudgeon in a Baltic puddle, why you can't read the current here //// laughing
  18. homosum20
    homosum20 28 June 2013 17: 21 New
    +3
    "Nikolai Viktorovich, at the June congress of the All-Russian People's Front you spoke about the need to develop a new popular ideology - the ideology of love for your country."

    What an elegant substitution of the concept of "Homeland" by the concept of "Country". Just like in America. I was born and raised in one country, and now I live in a completely different one. But my homeland has remained as it was. This is my homeland.
    "Country" includes the state and its elite. I don't have to love them. If you didn’t go to the polls, you don’t even have to obey. Of course, this will have to be answered. To hell with him.
    I am not obliged to love Gazprom, which has set gasoline prices higher than in the countries that buy this gasoline.
    I do not have to love Medvedev, who ruined the army, gave Libya, etc.
    And I will love my homeland, despite all the programs aimed at fostering love for my country. Because it is MY MOTHERLAND.
    And all who do not understand this, it does not matter what title they wear (from the last emperor to the current oligarchs), they will pay for it anyway. We are a patient people. But not at all harmless.
    1. max73
      max73 28 June 2013 18: 57 New
      0
      comrade, don’t scold the journalist - they didn’t teach him ... they didn’t finish the training ... or whatever ... And the Old Men did well! I agree in everything with him and with you
  19. Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov 28 June 2013 21: 34 New
    +1
    Our homeland is being taken away from us.

    Spitting in our history, trying to humiliate our ancestors, fathers and grandfathers, trying to belittle and denigrate our victories.

    Our homeland is being taken away from us.

    Theft of officials, the lies of the media, the liberal spit in our government, in our people, in our achievements.

    Our homeland is being taken away from us.

    Seducing with beautiful signs and brilliant wrappers of other countries, fanning doubts in souls and nurturing our pride, slipping false values, inciting one people to another, one region to another, some people to others.

    Only the homeland, as well as parents cannot be taken away.

    She can be killed. They tried to do this more than once. But while at least one Russian is alive, they will not succeed.

    It is much safer to make people give up on it with lies, manipulations, and flattery. And this cannot be allowed. Here is the front line, the line of confrontation. In the head, in the soul of every person. We will not let ourselves be deceived. We will not allow to deceive our friends and relatives, brothers and sisters.

    Homeland alone. And she is given to us from above.
  20. StrateG
    StrateG 28 June 2013 22: 43 New
    +1
    Russian is not a stamp in your passport. Russian is a stamp of fate. It follows that the Motherland is your mother, wife and lover. In a figurative sense, of course. I hope they understand me.
    1. sashka
      sashka 29 June 2013 19: 12 New
      0
      Quote: StrateG
      Russian is not a stamp in your passport. Russian is a stamp of fate

      That's right .. When the whole geyropa put on cuirasses. The Russians took off their shirt in order to show indifference to death .. more than that. You can’t hide and get away from it. This is the state of the Soul .. You can’t hide from yourself. The thing is that I know by myself .. You have a lot to do with us ..
  21. Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 29 June 2013 02: 52 New
    0
    Quote: Uhe
    You are absolutely right. A primordially Russian address to each other - to "you". "You" came to us in the time of Peter I and gradually began to spread with the accession of the Germans to the throne of Russia. Then it crawled to the very bottom.

    Appealing to "you" and "we" about yourself in the first person is a consequence of the split of the Christian faith into two camps, Catholic and Orthodox. The split also affected the integrity of the Roman Empire, which split into two parts - the Roman, later captured by the Germans, and Byzantium. But both the Pope and the Emperor seemed to speak one for two, therefore we-you appeared - one in two persons and expresses the thoughts of two people and two rulers of one double empire :).

    The kings from Europe were jealous of such "greatness", so gradually they also switched to this fashioning in relation to their loved ones. Gradually came to small nobles and began to be considered a sign of politeness. As I said, it came to us through the cesspool that Peter the Antichrist had dug. Through this shit, in general, a lot of anti-Russian things came to us, unfortunately, which ultimately resulted in the collapse of that Empire and the fruits of which we are "disentangling" to this day.

    Well, why did we start to address parents with "you"? Again, it came from the nobles, who did not speak Russian at all - they forgot how to learn over time, but knew how to speak French. And many of them rarely communicated with their parents at all, being raised by nurses, governors and others. What kind of close human connection is there? Strangers, sometimes not even fed with mother's milk, brought up by Frenchmen and other nakedness.

    How did Russian people in their prayers turn to god or gods? No misters! This is the only polite appeal to someone who belongs to your Family, because the Russians honored themselves as children of the God of the Family. Therefore, you are absolutely right.

    God laughing funny "about nobles" - from the same bastards, and
  22. Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 29 June 2013 03: 14 New
    -1
    Quote: Gleb
    No misters! Here is the only polite appeal to someone who belongs to your Family
    tell the man, why are you on the site contacting relatives? Or only to those whom you do not consider the grandchildren of Svarog?

    Svarog, the younger brother of Tvorog belay