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How are compatriots "dangerous" for Russia? People who have lost illusions are not needed by illusion sellers

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How are compatriots "dangerous" for Russia? People who have lost illusions are not needed by illusion sellersVery often, what we plan to introduce as advanced European experience, in fact, has long failed miserably in the same Europe. And our people abroad are witnesses to that.


What is the reason for the unresolved main question left to us as a legacy of the Yeltsin liberal era? No, this question is not the privatization of Russia by oligarchs in 90-x. The main question is why, with the presence of such a demographic resource as 25 millions of not only Russian-speaking, but ethnically Russian compatriots, not to mention even compatriots - representatives of other indigenous peoples of Russia, a banal copy of the European strategy for replenishing population losses was chosen - poorly educated and alien to us culturally, mentally and religiously labor migrants?

The question is delicate, and therefore I will try to speculate on this topic without a doubt, not to mention the "good" and "bad" guys. Say at once: 25 millions - this is a very, very conditional figure. As well as tens of millions of illegal, semi-legal and just unread Central Asian migrants in our open spaces. In our digital, computer age, people, for some reason, have never learned to consider such a valuable resource. Moreover, out of the 25 of millions of Russians who remained totally according to the data of the last Soviet census of the 1989 of the year on the territory of the independent post-Soviet national republics, some have already managed to return to Russia with their own efforts after the 91-year. There is no exact data here either, I confess. About 9 million? More less? Nobody knows for sure.

Elegantly interethnic and politically correct disguised, but certainly an important benefit, designed to stimulate fertility in the Russian regions of the country: “From this year, in most regions of Russia, a new allowance has been introduced for 3 and subsequent children. Its size is not less than the subsistence minimum of the baby in the subject (from 5 to 13 thousand rubles, depending on the region). It will be paid before the onset of the 3 age of the baby. 50 regions, where the birth rate is lower than the average for Russia (and on average 1,7 is the number of children per woman), receive a grant from the federal budget to pay this benefit. Many regions that are prosperous in terms of fertility have also introduced such a benefit - at their own expense ... However, in the 18 regions (where everything is okay with the birth rate) there is no such benefit. These are the republics of Adygea, Altai, Buryatia, Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Karachay-Cherkess, Yakutia, North Ossetia, Tatarstan, Tyva, Chechnya. As well as the Krasnoyarsk Territory, Astrakhan Region, Moscow, Nenets, Chukotka and Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Districts.

The case is good and important. Another good thing is to stop, forgive, the reduction of foreign adoption of Russian children.

And yet it’s all good. Because at least, all of the above is a manifestation of the interest of our state in solving demographic problems - once. And most importantly - in solving first of all the problems of the most unfavorable in this regard part of the population of Russia. The overwhelming part of it is a component of 80 with a percent tail.

Let's go further. If Russia is still interested in what we calculated indirectly, in increasing Russian and Russian cultural civilization close to the majority of the population and the same labor resources as well as draft, mobilization and other resources, then why are we year after year indifferently we observe how our initial huge resource of the Russian population, left as a suitcase without a handle, is rapidly diminishing on the platform of perestroika? Why do we, for decades already, not make any serious, meaningful efforts to return him to the homeland, which has become impoverished by people?

No, a lot of words have been said over the years. But we look at the numbers. At the exact, this time, numbers:

“- Are there general statistics, how many people have used this program for all the years of its implementation?
- K.Romodanovsky: We moved about 135 thousands order ”.

Statistical data on the ethnic composition of immigrants are not kept, but in the media one could meet the private opinions of various officials of the FMS or the Ministry of Regional Development, which indicate that the Russians and Slavs used the state resettlement program to use about 60 percent. The rest are representatives of the titular nations of the independent post-Soviet republics; by the way, we have already been reflecting on this topic quite recently. But these are those who returned to Russia precisely because of the state program to facilitate the voluntary resettlement of compatriots in Russia. As you know, on their own, at their own expense and at their own peril, more Russian people returned to the country by an order of magnitude, but there was no accounting at all, or simply no one provides reliable data. So, 135 thousand people. Of these, 60-70 percent are representatives of the Russian people or other indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation. "It will be enough"!

But it is good. Without the state program in general, many of our compatriots would have had one way out - in the loop, sorry for stating a sad post-Soviet reality. Plus, a gigantic apparatus has been created and worked out, actions for the resettlement of various ministries and departments have been coordinated - a matter of great importance and complexity for the largest country in the world. It’s a pity that even this meager streamlet actually stopped just when he had to, in the opinion of the authors of the new, indefinite state resettlement program, earn in full force. The current year is actually completely failed in terms of resettlement of compatriots. Let's wait and hope for the best.

But still, why for decades have we no longer been making all efforts to solve the most important problem - the reunification of the world's largest divided people - the Russian? Agree that this topic sounds more and more strong in society every year and is reflected in the media and in speeches and even decisions of senior government officials, but the result - 135 thousands - this is exactly the result of government efforts of the Russian Federation! The rest of the Russian repatriates did not actually receive any organized assistance from the state. But even out of these 135 “state” thousands of immigrants — a third are representatives of the title nations of other states. Moreover, here is fresh news: 21 June The State Duma adopted in the third, final, reading a bill aimed at facilitating the resettlement of compatriots from abroad. In accordance with the adopted amendments, participants in the program can obtain Russian citizenship in a simplified manner - without obtaining a residence permit, confirming the availability of a legal source of livelihood and checking the knowledge of the Russian language.

Now even it is not necessary to know the Russian language to the migrant, not to be Russian or Russian-cultural ... Once again the quote: “I instruct you to develop an accelerated procedure for granting Russian citizenship to our compatriots, native speakers of the Russian language and Russian culture” ... Let me remind you that this is from Putin’s instructions.

So why all the same in Russia do not need Russian? Why did the 135 of thousands of people return to Russia as a matter of state efforts, only some of whom, however large, are Russians and representatives of other indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation?
It seems to me that this is an ideological question. And this is not a reproach to the authorities, because our state ideology is banned constitutionally: Article 13
1. The Russian Federation recognizes ideological diversity.
2. No ideology can be established as a state or mandatory

And since we don’t have a state ideology, any ideological reproaches can’t be addressed to state authorities, right? So, there is an ideological question in this article, but there are no reproaches to power!

Why do we need mass resettlement of Russian compatriots of Russian origin, as well as representatives of other indigenous peoples of Russia? Let's remember who are these people? Who are the bulk of these 25 (?) By anyone not long ago recalculated millions? Of those who were abandoned by the new Russia. Thrown cynically and in a state of helplessness. If it was not about the state, then there is an article in the Criminal Code for such a crime, by the way. Do these people need representatives of the liberal, for example, part of our society? After all, our compatriots are mostly politically literate people. They all know and remember. They remember history our country, and what followed. They are well aware of the history of perestroika and who, when, whom he betrayed and what he sold. This is generally our compatriots' fad, in contrast to the rather apolitical Russians - 20 years these people (once I) had no choice but to study the details of their unwritten criminal case, in which all these millions act as victims.

These millions of potential Russian Russians are well aware, in their skin, that they are Russians! Even if they are Tatars or Jews, it doesn't matter! Russian compatriots (not emigrants, no), those who did not even think about giving up their homeland — Russia — they all know what Russophobia is and experience it for themselves with 20 for years. They all know what hatred is for Russia, whatever it is called - the Russian Empire, the USSR or the Russian Federation - from the states in which they are forced to stay ... All these millions of our Russian compatriots, that in the Baltic States, that in Central Asia, that in Ukraine, in the Caucasus, they are well aware of the true value of the “fraternal friendship of nations” and internationalism in the modern world.

Do we need all these millions of Russian compatriots to the Motherland, in the Constitution of which there are no indigenous peoples - neither Russian nor others? But still, the Russians of the Baltic States or Moldova know perfectly well the true price of “European values”, rights and freedoms, lifestyle, prices, health care and education systems, quality of products and working conditions, culture, imaginary political correctness and tolerance, up to juvenile justice and the impossibility Elementally do not agree to raise homosexuals from their children. They know the price of the “objectivity” of European advanced media and the cruelty of the banking credit system. They know the true value of fascism, Nazism, and our victory over them firsthand. Because Russophobia in Europe is tolerant, and protesting against the marches of the SS legions or the right to stolen citizenship, education, workplace or mother tongue is intolerant. They know what industry, ravaged by the old EU members, and the devastated agriculture of the new members are. They do not drool in Europe, as many good-natured Russians. They live in it! But they want to live in Russia. And most of all, unlike many Russians, they do not want Russia to become similar to the Europe in which they live now. You must agree that there is a slight contradiction in all this with some ideologies that still exist in Russia under the constitutional ban on ideology.

So who needs these millions of Russian people in Russia, deprived of European illusions? Socially active, culturally active, politically active. They are accustomed to work and demand too. Well, is it a labor and demographic resource compared to the millions of migrants from Central Asia, who also grew up in the post-Soviet era, with all the ensuing consequences?

But just about this, about the charms of Central Asia or the Caucasus, millions of Russian compatriots still left there will tell the Russians. If you come to live in Russia, of course. And about how they were loved fraternally during the civil wars. And about the way in which textbooks teach young people in fraternal Central Asian countries, what Russia and Russians are in these textbooks ... And what are the features of national corruption that are exported to Russia along with millions of migrant workers. And about the traditions of local ethnic crime, including the drug mafia, which applauds wide open to our borders and the complete lack of accounting and control. Again, some dissonance turns out, that's bad luck. It will be difficult, perhaps, to try to agitate Russians in the Russian media from the Baltic states for European values ​​and the European way of life, and Russians from Central Asia for the benefits of labor migrants from Uzbekistan or Kyrgyzstan.

And the social and political activity of Russian compatriots for the most part is much higher than that of the majority of today's Russians. And most importantly, this activity is by no means liberal. Here such a scoundrel will come and ask something childish, from the side you know better ... For example, you say, dear Russians, that you can’t do without cheap, low-skilled labor from Central Asia? Do you know that in Russia only in various private security companies there are a million or more young, healthy, mostly with higher education, men? And they are stupidly looking at monitors or walking around with batons, forgetting about their education and normal work? And this is despite the fact that there are as many police officers in Russia as soldiers serve in the army. So explain why chopy if there is a police? Or vice versa? Why should there be a private security structure next to the police officer? Or one gets a salary and serves, or another. But someone is clearly superfluous. And he will ask, but where does the salary of private security services of the trading network come from? Yeah, from the mark-up on the goods. And the salary of the railway guard? Yeah, from the ticket fees! So it's robbery!

And many, many questions arise for every immigrant compatriot who has just arrived in Russia. Including the device of the state in all areas. There is something to compare with - for the better and for the worse. Indeed, very often, what we plan to introduce as advanced European experience has, in fact, long since failed with a bang in Europe. Or America, ”will add a compatriot of foreign countries who has returned to Russia ...

People who have lost their illusions are not needed by the sellers of illusions - this is the main problem of the repatriation of Russians, which has not begun.
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  1. Denis
    Denis 27 June 2013 07: 36 New
    +3
    “I instruct you to develop an accelerated procedure for granting Russian citizenship to our compatriots, speakers of the Russian language and Russian culture” ... I remind you that this is from Putin’s assignment.
    Good idea, but so far only words
    In fact, a person who has arrived is standing in the same line with the Ravshan Jamshuts.
    Not only that, they offer him to speed up the line for a fee with a boring Taliban accent
    What is the reason for the unresolved main issue left to us by the Yeltsin liberal era? No, this question is not the privatization of Russia by the oligarchs in the 90s.
    I wonder why not an important question?
    Isn’t an attempt to distract from him using boltology
    1. cartridge
      cartridge 27 June 2013 09: 50 New
      +6
      People who have lost their illusions are not needed by the sellers of illusions - this is the main problem of the repatriation of Russians, which has not begun.


      Unfortunately this is the case! Foreigners are more desirable for the authorities than our Russians abandoned in a foreign land!
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 27 June 2013 11: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: Denis
      In fact, a newcomer stands in line with the Ravshan-Jamshuts. Moreover, they offer him to speed up the line for a fee with a boring Taliban accent

      to be honest, no one personally has demanded any bribe from me for acceleration, arrived on March 8 in October already had a passport
  2. ABV
    ABV 27 June 2013 07: 58 New
    +5
    Trying to agitate in the Russian media Russians from the Baltic countries for European values ​​and a European way of life, and Russians from Central Asia - for the benefits of labor migrants from Uzbekistan or Kyrgyzstan - will be difficult, perhaps.

    But this is the true truth, these people cannot be deceived by false values.


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  3. sashka
    sashka 27 June 2013 07: 59 New
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    Russia does not need Russians. I know from my own experience and the experience of my friends and relatives .. They don’t take a job, there is no Citizenship. And it’s an awesome problem to get it. They say openly, and who invited you here? Collect the manat and blow to your homeland. 14 families, 95 people ALL Russian. Literate and able-bodied. They are not needed ... My children live in Tashkent and are afraid to go here .. Strange policy .. Come and become unemployed homeless people .. We were able to bury my grandmother only for a bribe, I did not have time to get citizenship. Explained that we need to take home, back to Kazakhstan ... After all, we are not Russians. And why we ended up there, nobody cares. The factories were transported together with the personnel during the war. I worked at such a plant from Moscow for 14 years. I built the IL-76. and Ruslan. It turned out that I am not Russian. You laugh ...
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 27 June 2013 12: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: Sasha
      I know from my own experience and the experience of my friends and relatives .. They don’t take work, they don’t have Citizenship. And getting a drop dead problem

      according to the resettlement program, there are no problems whatsoever, I went through it myself
    2. MahsusNazar
      MahsusNazar 27 June 2013 12: 15 New
      +2
      I think I worked at the same factory.
      I managed to "get settled" in my homeland like that.
      Mother cannot transport, there is no independent opportunity, and the state is not an assistant, we are not needed.
  4. Canep
    Canep 27 June 2013 08: 11 New
    +6
    Without providing at least temporary housing and work on which resettlement programs will not work.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 27 June 2013 12: 04 New
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      Quote: Canep
      Without providing at least temporary housing and work on which resettlement programs will not work.

      a very detrimental policy, firstly it will cause a very high degree of aggression on the part of the indigenous people (this is now enough), and secondly, to attract dependents.
      1. Astartes
        Astartes 27 June 2013 16: 29 New
        +2
        the man said about providing work and not a benefit what kind of dependents ??
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 27 June 2013 17: 21 New
          0
          read carefully the first place was housing, and on the condition that not everyone has it, this can cause a storm of indignation on the part of local people, as a rule, working with people moving is more or less in order
  5. treskoed
    treskoed 27 June 2013 08: 16 New
    +5
    And who is determining the policy of Russia now? Russians? Loving Russia? Patriots of Russia? Raising their children in Russian schools and universities on the glorious traditions of Mother Russia?
    1. sashka
      sashka 27 June 2013 12: 07 New
      0
      In the internet now you can pick up so many photos about the visit of our most important "sage", Who in this Jewish skullcap talks with the chosen people. All questions disappear by themselves .. And at the wall he probably cried about the wrong people whom he "has to rule". Well, the Russians .. and who is this ???
      1. Melchakov
        Melchakov 27 June 2013 16: 35 New
        0
        Quote: Sasha
        Ineta can now pick so many photos

        Give me time and I’ll make so many of these pictures for you ..
        Quote: Sasha
        And cried against the wall

        Is there evidence other than photoshop photos?
  6. alexng
    alexng 27 June 2013 08: 20 New
    +7
    Oh! What a difficult topic! And the author had the courage to initiate this topic on the forum. I know from my acquaintances who live in Russia and some family members have already received citizenship, while others have not yet. Now it is not at all clear how it is possible to draw the line between family members. Probably, this issue will be resolved only by the accelerated creation of the Eurasian Union, and then, I hope, it will be easier to cope with this task. And in general, for a self-sufficient economy, the population must be at least 250 million people. So the question of returning compatriots and lost former republics back to their homes, in the language of the last century, is "extremely important."
    1. avt
      avt 27 June 2013 09: 54 New
      +6
      Quote: alexneg
      Oh! What a difficult topic!

      Why is it so complicated? request Those who hold their own people are afraid of power, they can’t talk to them, and even more so they cannot lead them to any goals, and the goal is mostly simple and has nothing to do with the people. So they are afraid, but as a protective function - the announcement of their God's chosen people in accordance with the Protestant teachings and posing themselves above the people. Already passed at 17m. The lesson is not learned, then there will be a retake of the exam. request You can, of course, hide behind an article on extremism, but as the experience of the Caucasus shows, it does not help much. Judging by the number of "spare sites" in the form of housing and dough in the west, they understand the problem, they are not completely fools, but they do not want to do anything and seem not to will be.
    2. sashka
      sashka 1 July 2013 11: 36 New
      0
      Quote: alexneg
      alexneg RU

      How can we drag people around the CIS or CU Space or, by the way, it doesn't matter, put on everything and return the Country ?? It is clear that it is difficult, but something must be done with this mess. While they are "determined" in the establishment of "democracy" they will shed so much blood .. We will have to return during the time when they themselves asked. Actually, not so long ago it was ...
  7. Kolya
    Kolya 27 June 2013 08: 57 New
    +8
    The high cost of housing and land for settlement is one of the main reasons why ethnic compatriots often cannot return to their homeland. These people cannot buy housing. For example, in Ukraine, the price of housing in comparable cities of Russia is 2 - 2,5 times lower. A person needs to sell his home and buy in Russia. But what can he buy in return? That's why they don’t go because it will lead to a worsening of their housing problem. Central Asians and in their homeland live 10 people in one room, just the same they live in Russia upon arrival.
    It’s no secret that Russia has enough land for all compatriots and it’ll remain, only the land for housing is in the hands of dealers who seized this land through bureaucrats. The entire Internet is packed with offers of several hectares from one source for Individual Housing Construction. And the vast majority of native Russians are not happy with this situation either!
    The solution is simple: a sensitive tax on land (settlements) if the plot is larger than the standard value (eg: 15 acres in the city and 100 in the village, graduation of course). Then the businessmen will not stay too long with empty land and the budget will be filled.
    The fact that any foreigner can buy land in Russia is the fifth column and wrecking in lawmaking. Uncle Sam is speculating on Russian land!
    Is it really normal that Russians, in their largest country, overpay for land on which there are not enough people to master ???
  8. stroporez
    stroporez 27 June 2013 09: 30 New
    +2
    it seems, the whole problem is this ---- "... So who needs these millions of Russian people in Russia, deprived of European illusions? ..." people who have "gorged themselves to hell" with "universal" concepts and who understand who m .. . to and who is sv ... wch, current contraceptives are not needed. et not jamshuts who "shave" any garbage ...............
  9. smel
    smel 27 June 2013 09: 31 New
    +8
    Author PLUS. Huge. It’s a very complex and sensitive topic. Many people can be offended when considering it. But no one will express gratitude for its consideration.
    The programs in question do not work, as, indeed, many other programs. So the blockage is not only in the migration of the Russian-speaking population. Unfortunately, protectionism has manifested itself in employment in recent years. There is practically nothing to hope for a newcomer. His strength, hard work, health does not need anyone. And if he finds a job, it will be a low-paying and hard work. Yes, and housing problems will be still those. In foreign countries it’s hard to sell something from real estate, and if you sell it, then for nothing. And for the proceeds, you can only buy a shed on the edge of an abandoned village ... It is a pity that the reality is as follows. But these problems do not seem to the undemanding public from the hot republics because from childhood they wash dishes in the canal, drink from there and go there. And our rulers are happy for their arrival. Truly about the illusions, the author correctly said ... PLUS
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  11. Sergey13
    Sergey13 27 June 2013 09: 48 New
    12
    I agree with treskoed, "... who now determines the policy of Russia? Russians? Those who love Russia? Patriots of Russia? Raising their children in Russian schools and universities on the glorious traditions of Mother Russia?" Russians do not unequivocally define Russia's policy. Moreover, everyone knows which nation determines the policy of Russia and they need the gussies in this Gossiya to control them. Who is very tolerant can minus
  12. Vtel
    Vtel 27 June 2013 09: 55 New
    11
    People who have lost their illusions are not needed by the sellers of illusions - this is the main problem of the repatriation of Russians, which has not begun.

    Because Russia is ruled by non-Russians-bureaucrats-liberals, hence the tail and hooves, and I feel sorry for the people of Russian repatriates, God grant them strength and health.

    I am Russian

    In the steppe covered with mortal dust
    The man sat and cried.
    And the Creator of the Universe walked by.
    Stopping, he spoke:
    "I am a friend of the humble and the poor,
    I have all the wretched shore,
    I know a lot of cherished words.
    I am your God. I can do everything.
    I am saddened by your appearance,
    What trouble are you cramming up? ”
    And the man said: "I am Russian"
    And God wept with him.
    [Zinoviev N.A.]
  13. ed65b
    ed65b 27 June 2013 10: 17 New
    +3
    I don’t even know what to say so much has already been said, but things are still there. empty words from the lips of various officials, the prime minister and the president filled their teeth. And Putin’s last decision to legalize representatives of Central Asia under the guise of compatriots generally led me into a stupor. What kind of compatriot did he give me ???? maybe his father, grandfather, but not youth grown up in other values ​​and who have forgotten my language. And in the CU, no one except Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, and even subject to strict control by the authorities of the Republic of Kazakhstan, we do not need the border. They forgot and threw their Russians as always.
  14. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 27 June 2013 10: 22 New
    +7
    It is not the former fraternal republics that are to blame for the position of Russian-speaking people in their territories, they only live by their own laws, which Russians do not always fit into, but Russia abandoned them. Vile and cynical. First she sent to raise virgin soil, industry, etc. in new territories, and then "threw".
    It’s generally not clear why Germans, Jews, Irish, etc. can get a passport at home on ethnic grounds, and Russian bl .. no!?!?! What kind of idiocy is this?
    I remember Pu himself said that everyone who wanted to Russia had long since moved. Those. those who are still there are already sort of not ours.
    1. KG_patriot_last
      KG_patriot_last 27 June 2013 12: 15 New
      +1
      That's right ... It feels like Russia considers our ethnic Russians to be a foreign element ...
  15. krez-74
    krez-74 27 June 2013 10: 26 New
    +1
    The one who himself, voluntarily left the country, will never be a full-fledged citizen of this country! For those, where it’s warm and full, the Motherland is there ...
    But with those who, on the occasion of the partition of the USSR, ended up in another country and want to return, the question is more complicated, it is necessary to return, but can they fit into the realities of Russia?
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 27 June 2013 12: 11 New
      +5
      Quote: krez-74
      but can they fit into the realities of Russia?

      and why not, it can be a shame for someone, but we sometimes treat Russia more reverently than those who were born here.
      we watch sporting events and we say OUR teams about Russian teams, I remember the events in Beslan well, we didn’t work, we followed the news all day, I remember how in the eighth year I sighed and let go only when there was infa that tanks went through the tunnel.
      for us, Russia, regardless of where we live, in Asia or the Baltics is the Motherland, and not "this country"
      1. krez-74
        krez-74 27 June 2013 12: 14 New
        0
        Thanks for the comment! Clearly laid out their opinion. Well, I, from those who listen and draw conclusions.
        1. Astartes
          Astartes 27 June 2013 16: 34 New
          0
          And in which Russian realities, for example, a person who wants to move to Russia may not fit in?
          1. krez-74
            krez-74 27 June 2013 17: 00 New
            0
            Is it not enough? Corruption, unemployment, red tape with papers at all levels. Yes, and many Russians often see such enemies and competitors ...
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 27 June 2013 17: 23 New
              +1
              You have not encountered corruption and red tape in the Republic of Kazakhstan, but the second about the attitude of local people is quite relevant
  16. Forward
    Forward 27 June 2013 10: 28 New
    +2
    Very good and relevant article !!! Respect and respect to the author. About the tribulation of our fellow tribesmen do not even want to spread. It is worth remembering the fate of the Russian population in Ichkeria, tears welling up.
  17. olviko
    olviko 27 June 2013 10: 30 New
    +3
    "No ideology can be established as state or mandatory"
    No society, no state can exist without ideology, even if its presence is denied by the constitution. And the ideology of today's Russia is the same as in the West, selfish ideology - money, profit at all costs. The whole society is struck by this infection, from top to bottom - take for example the behavior of taxi drivers during a recent subway accident. Instead of helping the affected people somehow, they pushed up prices for their services. In the war, they were called looters and put to the wall, but now it is market relations. In accordance with this ideology of power in Russia, migrants are needed who can be exploited as slaves and make good profits. What about the Russians? these are just losses, it is necessary to provide work and that they would pay the salary, and where to get it if there are enough of their unemployed. Again, help is needed for arranging, housing - here hundreds of thousands of their citizens live in barracks, but in emergency gangs. Not to this the authorities, money must be made.
    1. dropout
      dropout 27 June 2013 14: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: olviko
      . What about the Russians? these are just losses, it is necessary to provide work and that they would pay the salary, and where to get it if there are enough of their unemployed. Again, help is needed for arranging, housing - here hundreds of thousands of their citizens live in barracks, but in emergency gangs. Not to this the authorities, money must be made.

      That's right. But why am I living in Ukraine and not going to leave for many reasons (if only because my parents’ graves are here) I can’t get Russian citizenship by the right of blood and birth? It would give me a sense of ownership of the Motherland, and she realized that beyond her borders there are her faithful sons.
  18. Sergey13
    Sergey13 27 June 2013 11: 33 New
    0
    Quote: krez-74
    The one who himself, voluntarily left the country, will never be a full-fledged citizen of this country! For those, where it’s warm and full, the Motherland is there ...
    But with those who, on the occasion of the partition of the USSR, ended up in another country and want to return, the question is more complicated, it is necessary to return, but can they fit into the realities of Russia?

    If Russians fit into all of our realities, it will be difficult for many, but their children will be Russians who were born in Russia with its realities.
    1. krez-74
      krez-74 27 June 2013 12: 17 New
      0
      Well, if not Russian? Representatives of my people (like all the peoples of the USSR), too, voluntarily or not, ended up outside of Russia! Will you accept them?
  19. Hort
    Hort 27 June 2013 11: 50 New
    +4
    the resettlement program of compatriots is very crude and needs to be seriously revised. People need not only to give a lift, but to offer a good incentive - work, land for farming, compulsory exemption from paying most of the taxes for 5 years and compulsory state. control over all this in order to exclude the small-town corruption component (since there were already precedents when the same Old Believers from South America came and fell into bondage with local officials, and then, after repentance, returned to their new homeland).
    Plus, I would suggest in parallel to develop a similar program for foreign citizens from the same Europe and both Americas, focusing on those who do not accept degrading changes in their countries and who are disgusted with the dominance of migrants and pid ... "cyborgs" :) Well, of course, to grant citizenship to normal Europeans if they are ready to move to us and work for the good of Russia in the fields of the national economy, which are in dire need of quality specialists. Separate preferences should be for those compatriots and Europeans who are ready to come to live in Siberia and the Far East.

    By the way, there are already precedents for the resettlement of people from the West to us - the same Frenchman Alexander Latsa (his article "May 9 through the eyes of a foreigner" was on VO) and the American Tim Kirby. Plus a considerable number of other, less famous people.
    Z.Y. I do not mention Depardieu, for he is not going to live in Russia)))
  20. Hort
    Hort 27 June 2013 11: 50 New
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    the resettlement program of compatriots is very crude and needs to be seriously revised. People need not only to give a lift, but to offer a good incentive - work, land for farming, compulsory exemption from paying most of the taxes for 5 years and compulsory state. control over all this in order to exclude the small-town corruption component (since there were already precedents when the same Old Believers from South America came and fell into bondage with local officials, and then, after repentance, returned to their new homeland).
    Plus, I would suggest in parallel to develop a similar program for foreign citizens from the same Europe and both Americas, focusing on those who do not accept degrading changes in their countries and who are disgusted with the dominance of migrants and pid ... "cyborgs" :) Well, of course, to grant citizenship to normal Europeans if they are ready to move to us and work for the good of Russia in the fields of the national economy, which are in dire need of quality specialists. Separate preferences should be for those compatriots and Europeans who are ready to come to live in Siberia and the Far East.

    By the way, there are already precedents for the resettlement of people from the West to us - the same Frenchman Alexander Latsa (his article "May 9 through the eyes of a foreigner" was on VO) and the American Tim Kirby. Plus a considerable number of other, less famous people.
    Z.Y. I do not mention Depardieu, for he is not going to live in Russia)))
  21. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 27 June 2013 12: 20 New
    -1
    All the same, in Central Asia there is no such hysteria as in the Baltic states, no matter how we are loved ... they don’t even give their passports ...

    I also looked at the author’s photo and I think: well, the spilled Kyrgyz outwardly ...
  22. lobik
    lobik 27 June 2013 12: 43 New
    +2
    I think Russia has a chance to return its people only if it will be very bad in these former republics, significantly worse than in Russia.
    1. dropout
      dropout 27 June 2013 14: 21 New
      -1
      Yes, much worse!
      1. dropout
        dropout 27 June 2013 19: 47 New
        0
        Someone stuck a couple of minuses, apparently not bad somewhere without a homeland attached.
        Or maybe inattentively read the previous koment, to which I replied.
  23. pensioner
    pensioner 27 June 2013 13: 08 New
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    I worked at such a plant from Moscow for 14 years. I built the Il-76 and the Ruslan. It turned out that I am not Russian. You laugh ...

    I think I worked at the same factory.
    I managed to "get settled" in my homeland like that.
    Mother cannot transport, there is no independent opportunity, and the state is not an assistant, we are not needed ...


    No words ...
  24. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 27 June 2013 13: 23 New
    +5
    One good person worked for me. At that time, he was trying to obtain citizenship for the eighth year. He left the Baltic states. He considered the main reason for his deadlock to be a fun game of "help". The fact is that a certificate can only be obtained in a strictly defined form and is given for a certain period. There are a lot of references, the masks' chiefs change a certain form strictly once every three months. Or more often ...
    If you managed to collect all, all the references, and even somehow incredibly guess the moment so that none of them expired yet, then another improvement arrived in time, they say, this and that reference of yours ... not of the same shape! We just received the Next Instruction! Take bast-soaked, start over! That is, find some money for another trip to the Baltics, famous for their fast people, full of desire to quickly solve the problems of their next favorite non-citizen ... Sasha was in despair. Moreover, the "problem" could not be solved even with money! Our officials liked the game of help so much, so much ...
    1. sashka
      sashka 27 June 2013 13: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: Mikhail3
      Sashka was in despair. Moreover, the "problem" could not be solved even with money! Our officials liked the game of help so much, so much ...

      As if about me .. I played and didn’t like it. I had to solve the problem through the Kremlin. After that, how many goals flew alone God knows. I was just lucky..
  25. sashka
    sashka 27 June 2013 13: 25 New
    +1
    The topic is very painful. Usually in the media they try not to raise this issue and not to drive. I personally know hundreds of people I have encountered in my life. Uigurs who wore Chinese uniforms and ate with chopsticks, Koreans, Kazakhs who were not Kazakhs, Uzbeks who were not Uzbeks. you can’t list all of them. You can list all the nationalities of Central Asia. And there are no fewer than in Russia .. They consider themselves Russian. They taught us very well. And some of those present here are not even standing next to Them .. Russia has only one a chance to take advantage of such a moment. Nobody will believe more and further this chatter ..
  26. ed65b
    ed65b 27 June 2013 13: 43 New
    0
    And they no longer believe her. Everyone understands that a lie. It's a shame that GDP is lying to its own people. You can’t not talk, but you can do it like a man. Surname? Ivanov, get a passport. Surname? Tukhtamadze - in line.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 27 June 2013 13: 48 New
      -1
      Quote: ed65b
      Tukhtamadze - in line

      Bagration, the same in line?
      1. fisherman
        fisherman 27 June 2013 14: 58 New
        -1
        we have to wait for the GDP to answer, because this is the GDP distributing passports :)
      2. Denis
        Denis 27 June 2013 15: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Bagration, the same in line?
        Him as respect out of turn

        although it is registered in Kaliningrad, cognac
  27. Semurg
    Semurg 27 June 2013 14: 18 New
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    The problem is ripe and overripe. According to conversations with Russians, 30-40% of people even now are ready to go to Russia; their fear associated with moving and trouble with documents and the high cost of housing in cities is not all urban people want to go and live in villages. 30-40% not decided for various reasons, and the remaining 30-40% do not want to go anywhere. From here I conclude if hands. Russia will want and set such a goal from Kazakhstan, another 3-5 million people will go to Russia.
  28. sergey261180
    sergey261180 27 June 2013 15: 41 New
    -1
    Some kind of sorry x-nu written by the author. About some illusions, about some liberal gays of Europe. I collected everything in a heap. They don't go back for one reason: it's even worse here than there. The main stream rushed into the 90s. Many who arrived were surprised to say the least. It turns out that you are not so good at it. Moreover, in the light of the latest programs for the resettlement of "compatriots" those from whom they fled found themselves here. And just like there, the Russians are disenfranchised cattle, having neither a flag nor a homeland. As one official said, there is no such nationality at all. What do you want? Even the president says that those who say Russia for the Russians -. So it would be somewhere to return, let's go.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 27 June 2013 17: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: sergey261180
      They don’t go back for one reason: it’s even worse than there.

      where there and where back?
      have you personally been there ?!
      1. sergey261180
        sergey261180 27 June 2013 17: 34 New
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        Personally, I have enough salary so that only the pants do not fall off. There is no money to travel abroad. I know people who came from Kazakhstan in the 90s. So they lived here, they think back to leave.
  29. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 27 June 2013 17: 37 New
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    Quote: sergey261180
    Personally, I have enough salary so that only the pants do not fall off. There is no money to travel abroad. I know people who came from Kazakhstan in the 90s. So they lived here, they think back to leave.

    no need to compare the 90s and today’s time is first, I myself came from the Republic of Kazakhstan in the 9th year, therefore, unlike you, I can compare, I know many who moved for two years or no one wants to come back