70 anniversary of the feat of Alexander Matrosov dedicated

June 21 in the Central Museum of the Armed Forces will mark the 70 anniversary of the feat of the Hero of the Soviet Union guard Private Alexander Matrosov.

With inspiration and love, a thematic exposition created, a documentary about the great military self-sacrifice of the Soviet soldier will be shown to veterans of the Great Patriotic War, cadets of military schools, pupils of cadet corps, representatives of the military-patriotic clubs of Moscow.

Also, guests of the exhibition will see the true banner of the famous 254 Guards Rifle Regiment. A. Matrosov.

And in front of the Central Museum of the Armed Forces, samples of military equipment will be exhibited and field kitchen deployed.

“By the way, not everyone knows that Alexander Matrosov’s Komsomol ticket is stored in our museum, with an inscription made after his death:“ I went to the enemy’s gun emplacement and drowned it. He showed heroism, ”said Anton Gubankov.

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[Alexander Romanov]

This film should not be shown to guests, but through all the central channels. Ask those who have passed perfectly the Unified State Examination who the Sailors is, oh, and you will hear enough.

[experienced]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

This film should not be shown to guests, but through all the central channels. Ask those who have passed perfectly the Unified State Examination who the Sailors is, oh, and you will hear enough.

I agree! But, let’s give an account - in Soviet schools we were told from elementary grades about the exploits of the heroes of the Second World War Matrosov, Talalikhin, Panfilov’s, Karbyshev ... We grew up on this. I remember we read a series of books about children of Heroes.
And now those who grew up on American action movies, after watching a one-time film without special effects, do you think that something will be "put off" in your head?
It is necessary to revive the systematic work on patriotic education
The problem is big: the channels are interested in rating, not political education. And Citadels are being rented for state money.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: seasoned

It is necessary to revive the systematic work on patriotic education

Lech, it may be worth reviving the USSR itself in a new form, just as our bureaucrats take for something, it turns out as always

[experienced]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

it may be worth reviving the USSR itself in a new form, just as our bureaucrats take for something, it turns out as always

Oh, a sore subject I understand that I’ll rake on the top of the head, but I won’t be silent.
The USSR collapsed and we must accept this and stop pouring salt on our wounds. After the separation, the local "kings" to consolidate their own authority were profitable slogans that they "fed others", that they were oppressed and they were under occupation, that the Russian monsters did not allow our culture to develop, the Russian Ivan occupied positions ...
What we have now: territorial formations under the rule of "bays" with a ruined economy, education, expelled "Russian enslavers", and somewhere partially destroyed with a population that has been listening for 20 years that the Russians are to blame for everything.
Any chance of a merger? In my opinion no
That which has preserved the possibility of unification is already included in the Customs Union, it seems to me that in due course Ukraine will enter there, but for others it is necessary to enter visas and wait for "repentance"
Those who could have joined the EU - the Baltics and they are now "skinned" there, Azerbaijan flourishes at the expense of resources, about who has the lion's share of the resources I will not say anything, we still have the same, the rest turned out to be like children who drove adults out, who ate everything in a week "sweets and ice cream" at home and realizing that they can do nothing but beg from other homes

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: seasoned

Any chance of a merger? In my opinion no

With what the hell, the TS is essentially the new USSR, a kind of laying the foundation of the future union. Damn, how I start talking
But the essence is the same, everything is back to square one.

Quote: seasoned

What has preserved the possibility of unification is already included in the Customs Union, it seems to me that in due course Ukraine will enter there, but for others you need to enter visas and wait for "repentance

It’s clear with Ukraine that it’s not where it will go, no matter how Kars is against it, but Ukraine will be in the TS. As for the rest, Kyrgyzstan will join the TS in September, and they will come for the rest, just out of fear of being left overboard. may
The Baltic States will have to be returned by force, but what to do, do not give away forever

[Apollo]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

. Damn how I start talking Yesaul

Damn, but I did not expect from you

Good afternoon Alexander

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Apollon

Damn, but I did not expect from you

Hi Apollo! Don’t pay attention, I just relax after two days of running around. We went to drink beer, that sit on dry.

[Apollo]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Don’t pay attention, I just relax after two days of running around. We went to drink beer, that sit on dry.

Ah Alexander You decrypted us, now I will run

[smile]

Alexander Romanov
Greetings! Can the Baltic states be faster, at least Lithuania, huh? And I'm running away for a beer .... will it go? :)))

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: smile

And I'm running away for a beer .... will it go? :)))

hi Vladimir! You say for beer, come on to skype, then the whole former gang of marshals has gathered. We have a new name, we are now skypers

[experienced]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

You say for beer, come on to skype, then the whole former gang of marshals has gathered. We have a new name, we are now skypers

Oh, come on ... Cheka (admin) does not sleep

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: seasoned

Cheka (admin) does not sleep

I’ll forgive

[smile]

Alexander Romanov
In, I got into the company ... :))) .... I'm afraid not everyone will understand when they see me in the office with a beer joyfully bawling on Skype ... :)))
This ... but what about Lithuania? After all, again we’ll drink it in a rush ... take it back then ... :)))

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: smile

.... I'm afraid not everyone will understand when they see me in the office with a beer joyfully bawling on Skype ... :)))

Then take cognac and treat everyone around the office

[smile]

Alexander Romanov
And nobody told you that you are a provocateur? :)))
Once, having brought home the body of a colleague, I heard a description from his wife - an alcoholic provocateur .... are you encroaching on my laurels? :)))
And in general, Sabantuy according to plan, at 22-30 and not a minute earlier! Until then, not a drop in his mouth, nor ... OH! :))))

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: smile

And in general, Sabantuy according to plan, at 22-30 and not a minute earlier!

Eeee, we have on DV 20 00, in half an hour we are waiting for you

[nov_tech.vrn]

and they draw a rating - half-finger-ceiling, agencies according to their criteria, a smart movie without scandal, are not considered rating, even if they look at half the country, and some holidays in Mexico are considered rating, although their real audience is insignificant, but they are used for brainwashing and debilitation of youth and therefore they draw ratings

[xetai9977]

I remember in Soviet times, all the children dreamed of becoming astronauts, intelligence officers, and military men. And all thanks to the right course of the authorities to educate young people and the active work of the media. And now they are propagandizing7 Zhulikov, girls of easy virtue, corrupt politicians. No matter what channel you turn the same thing. It is not surprising that many of the young people find it difficult to answer when the war started.

[Day 11]

Hello Rauf! I absolutely agree with you. I'm not even talking about "white spots" in the history of World War II! Here and adult men think in cliches

[xetai9977]

Greetings Denis! And don’t talk!

[lelikas]

Quote: seasoned

It is necessary to revive the systematic work on patriotic education
The problem is big: the channels are interested in rating, not political education. And Citadels are being rented for state money.

There is a chance to change it -

Just go and do it -
http://boomstarter.ru/projects/36881/28_panfilovtsev

[pribolt]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

This film should not be shown to guests, but through all the central channels. Ask those who have passed perfectly the Unified State Examination who the Sailors is, oh, and you will hear enough.

I agree with Alexander. In my time, everyone knew who Alexander Matrosov was, moreover, in almost every city there was Matrosov Street. What happened now if the schoolchildren do not know who the Sailors are?

[Ezhaak]

Quote: pribolt

What happened now if the schoolchildren do not know who the Sailors are?

Dmitry, and at least once you thought that not only schools are guilty of poor education, in particular historical, of our children. Children with great interest and confidence in what has been said, listen to their own parents! How much time do parents devote to teaching their children? Do you think parents have any fault in this? Let me remind you of the Russian proverb: What you sow, you will reap.

[Manager]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

then such a Sailor, oh, and hear enough.

I asked a 9-year-old neighbor))) He confused him with Pavlik Morozov !!! Well, I was pleased with the fact that at least he heard about Pavlik Morozov

[Old fox]

all the forces of the central channels are thrown on series and stupid talk shows

[Sgt.]

Everlasting memory ! God forbid our children and future generations to forget about the deed and self-sacrifice of our Fathers!

I bow to the determination of our fathers to present their LIFE for the Future of their descendants, for the MOTHERLAND!

I am writing and crying

[starshina78]

We, who served in Kamchatka, are offended when they talk about Matrosov and others who repeated the feat, forget about Ilyichev and Vilkov (as recently as today, in a report on Matrosov on the Zvezda channel, they mentioned many, but once again forgot), who repeated the feat of Matrosov during the assault of the Japanese fortifications on the Shumshu island (an island from the Kuril Islands). They, like Matrosov, covered the embrasures of Japanese bunkers with their breasts. But that's not the point. Has anyone in your thoughts imagined how you rise and close the embrasure with your chest? It's scary to imagine, but these people did it. Nobody will know what they were thinking at that moment. They were, who accomplished the feat, from 19, like Matrosov. and maybe no more than 40, that is, people who have their whole life ahead of them, and they did it without thinking that they would die. Once in a conversation at work, one driver for me (his name was Uncle Vanya, he worked at the irrigation and washing room, unfortunately he is no longer with us), who had gone through the whole war since June 22, 1941 in the infantry, said that the worst thing in the war was it is to rise to the attack both for the first time, and for the hundredth, you do not know you will fall right away, halfway or lucky, but once you get up, then run and do not stop, and then the fear passes away, an incomprehensible feeling of rage towards the enemy remains , to the sun, earth, dust, to everything that interferes with running, and it is taken out in the enemy's trenches. and after the attack comes such fatigue that you cannot tell. So the feat of Matrosov is the apogee of courage, courage, dedication and self-sacrifice.

[Marek Rozny]

Yes, there were many such as Sailors. In Kazakhstan, for example, they do not forget Baimagambetov, who also died by throwing his body on a German embrasure.
Kazakhs have a saying "Honor is more precious than life". Probably all the peoples of the ex-USSR have similar sayings. At a critical moment, moments of truth come - either honor (your own, of the Motherland) is more dear to you, or your own skin is closer to your body.
When he is ready to give everything for his homeland, then the nation will live.

[Vladimirets]

"On June 21, the Central Museum of the Armed Forces will celebrate the 70th anniversary of the feat of the Hero of the Soviet Union, Guard Private Alexander Matrosov."

And if you celebrate the exploits of all our WWII soldiers? It is possible to hold ceremonial events in the museum throughout the year, because there were so many Sailors. Without diminishing the heroic deed.

[domokl]

And why not talk about the feat again on state television channels, on the radio, and show films on this occasion? After all, everything will pass in Moscow and die out before it starts ... A hundred or two people will come and that's it ... Let’s forget another 10 years ...

[Vtel]

Yes, it would be good to remind of the real Russian heroes, and not to show the cashier full faces of Urgant_Aktimelev from morning to evening.

[Sochi]

As far as I remember, he was far from the first ... That of course does not detract from his feat. And it doesn’t matter who he was - Russian, Chuvash, Mordvin (otherwise a bunch of whistleblowers were looking out) ... He gave his life for his comrades, for his Motherland !!! Eternal memory to him, and to all those who gave their lives in that war.

[Bort radist]

Quote: Sochi

As far as I remember, he was far from the first ...

The fighters who, like Alexander Matrosov, closed the embrasure with about 400 people. Films must be shot about such heroes, they were most young, ........ Having renounced death by death. Here is the link lists of names http://www.soldat.ru/memories/podvig/spisok1.html

[Captain Vrungel]

In the good old Soviet times, the heroes were remembered. In the MMF of the USSR, a whole series of ships received their name in honor of the pioneer heroes, in honor of the young partisans, young Leninists, Panfilov heroes, and Komsomol heroes. The largest bulk carriers of the series "Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya", "Alexander Matrosov".
Now they are making a film about the feat of 28 heroes of Panfilov’s. Filmed by unnamed directors, actors. The film will be more documentary than feature. there will be truth about the real feat, real heroes (who did not even know about it) who stood to die for their homeland, for us. And how disgusting it was to hear that there were revisionists who had questioned this feat. If it were my will, I would kick this bastard under my knee, stripping me of my citizenship and passport.
The state is to blame for this. He promotes the wrong values, honors the wrong heroes. A country not offended by talents in everything, vociferous, Naples will envy. And what do we see worn-out, worn-out half-voiced "stars" of all times and rulers with a lifeless mask of a mummy on their face, instead of a face, the fifth composition of the first plywood of singing panties or preoccupied with Viagra, humorists, from one kind of which vomiting spasms begin, and from jokes powdered milk turns sour.
General cleaning is necessary In the media, especially on TV channels. Remove this stupid vulgarism, the worn-out rotten near-television brothel "beau monde". Send any pavlush and gariks to their ethnic homeland to their "favorite" work, to trade or to sweep. Give the screen to folk talents, folk heroes, and in a month we will forget today's "stars" and their producers.

[il grand casino]

Let the young people show. You need to know about such heroes, and not about the "heroes" of Mikhalkov

[pa_nik]

Through central channels, the topic was discussed exclusively by May 9th. And it would be nice from May 9th of one year - to May 9th of the next and so on right on the dates: this and that happened, this and that distinguished itself, a kind from there. And the facts will be noted and fellow countrymen will remember the Hero.

[omsbon]

Patriotic education should be in school curricula and in the media.
Our children must know the heroes of their country! To be brought up on their example, and not on Amer’s comics!

[redwar6]

Good morning, although it’s already day.
In general, in the 9th grade, 6-8 lessons of the Second World War are devoted. What do you think, can you learn a lot during this time? Russian history I saw, in my opinion, 10 pages dedicated to the Second World War. I saw the heading "Battle of Kursk", I thought: they probably described a lot. No. 50 lines. Something like "Our soldiers fought heroically and stopped the enemy." It was somehow offensive. descriptions of exploits, well, at least write: The soldiers showed massive heroism: the pilots directed their burning plane at the enemy, the tankers rammed the tanks and guns of the enemy, the soldiers threw themselves under the tanks with grenades in their hands, the artillerymen stood in their positions to the end. Now they seem to compose a new textbook ...
But what can I say, many children do not know their grandfathers, to the question "Did your grandfather fight?" answer "Yes, there seem to be medals." And they don't know anything else :(

[Day 11]

But I’m wondering what kind of machine gun he closed with his own body? MG-34? MG-42? Continue?

[Dimych]

and what? there is a fundamental difference from a machine gun to die?

[Day 11]

Probably from what machine gun to die, the difference is small. And what do you think, is it feasible to silence this "sickly" weapon by covering it with your body?

[Dimych]

Well, he forced it! And there were 400 people like him. There were even those who survived such a thing.

[treskoed]

. There were even those who survived such a thing.

In Severodvinsk there is a street and a school to them. TRUKHINOVA. So he closed the embrasure with a duffel bag and survived!

[igordok]

Maybe MG-08 was also in the bunker, this is no longer recognizable. Sailors covered AMBRAZURA with his body. Closing the review.
This topic has already been discussed, and more than once.
http://topwar.ru/24583-aleksandr-matrosov-realnost-i-vymysel.html#comment-id-943

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The fact that the human body does not move from the hitting bullets, even "Mythbusters" figured out. Well, bullets do not have the impulse to move the body.

[treskoed]

But I’m wondering what kind of machine gun he closed with his own body? MG-34? MG-42?

HOSTILE!

[Hort]

But it still seems to me that Matrosov’s feat was somewhat embellished - in the part where he covered the bunker of the bunker with his chest. In real life, apparently, he tried to suppress, but fell into the queue from a machine gun.
After all, firstly, the human body is not an obstacle for a machine gun, and secondly, the second number in the calculation had a special pole to repel the dead, which interfere with vision and shooting ...

[Day 11]

Here is the answer of a man who is at least trying to figure it out! I am by no means imploring the exploits of our soldiers, but I must always try to figure it out! By the way, he threw RGD-33 there, which didn’t burst

[igordok]

Quote: hort

After all, firstly, the human body is not an obstacle for a machine gun

It is, like a bag of sand (or water). And again I repeat, Sailors closed the review. The embrasure is narrow. In the bunker you will not turn around with a pole.
Two neighboring bunkers were destroyed by PTR. There the swamp and guns cannot be pulled up. And this one failed, maybe he has a flanking embrasure arrangement.

[Hort]

thank you for the clarification.

heh, he knew that they would stick minuses instead of dialogue))

[igordok]

Quote: hort

heh, he knew that they would stick minuses instead of dialogue))

I did not put a minus. The dialogue would be interesting if this issue were not discussed a thousand times.

[Dimych]

The feat of one Matrosov can be embellished. And 400 such cases, is this also for a red word?

[igordok]

Sailors was not the first, and unfortunately not the last, to crush the German reptile.
By chance, in this place, at that time there was a correspondent who immediately transmitted the information to Moscow. And then everything rolled. Therefore, the feat became the name of Matrosov. And those who anticipated or repeated the feat, honor and praise. They were not afraid that through their bodies they would see and shoot their comrades, they were not afraid that their bodies would be pulled by poles. They did their job.

[BAT]

Whether or not Alexander Matrosov’s feat is embellished, it doesn’t matter at all. The important thing is that he accomplished his feat. And the same feats were 400 times. People went to certain death for the sake of Victory. And thanks to such people, our people won. From childhood, I was raised on the exploits of our Heroes. And do not cry, what is sacred for many of us.

[Hort]

Howl? No one thought to do this.

[Day 11]

Am I like a red rag for a bull? One pathos and slogans, but nobody wants to understand the essence of the topic. For example, who among you knows what Hans fought 2 GSS pilots in the Luftwaffe? Is this the truth where to put it? Interesting? Continue?

[Lech from ZATULINKI]

for the chances even the NEGORS fought however the Germans didn’t - all the same, DEATH and the DESTRUCTION that the Germans sowed in RUSSIA eventually came to them themselves.

[Day 11]

I agree with you (I even argue). How do you like this? ---

[Day 11]

What about grandfather and grandson?

[MG42]

Translation from English into a photo << young and old = still Kozaki >> nothing that is in the German form .. how does this refer to the feat of Matrosov?

[Day 11]

Dear friend, of course, this doesn’t belong to A. Matrosov’s deed. Just read a little higher for whom I posted it! And the topic of the issue under discussion (different nationalities served in the Wehrmacht, including the Cossacks (and they always distanced themselves a bit from Russians and Ukrainians, considered (and consider) themselves a separate ethnic group)

[MG42]

Quote: Den 11

Of course, this does not apply to A. Matrosov’s exploit

Yes. This flood is off topic called ..

Quote: Den 11

Just read a little higher for whom I posted it

read it began with your comment Today, 12:56, then went s.r.a.ch. Well, I was giving a video about pumpkins that were barely crushed from that machine gun, there are no words; only expressions = shoot through the body, and it’s very cynical to discuss this.

[Day 11]

This is WAR! There is no place for emotions. Either HE is you, OR YOU are him!

[Hleb]

By the way .. once you start translating into Russian, then translate correctly.
in this case, the correct translation will be-kaZaki, but not -Kozaki

[MG42]

I wanted a plus, I clicked on a minus, I’m sorry, I'm Ukrainian, we write through O, I wrote it automatically ..

[Hleb]

)) I had a chance. I didn’t post the document because the person signed up Oleksandr. He calls and says, don’t you know what Alexander writes through O. I laughed for a long time ..
Well, the capital letter K is also not written in this case
better for you like this: kozaky

[MG42]

Quote: Gleb

we have Alexander written through O. I laughed for a long time ..

We write through O, you get used to it, especially if in your passport, even though Russian automatically happens, Ukrainian words slip in and spelling.

Quote: Gleb

Well, the capital letter K is also not written in this case

it was humor as in the photo with a big one to one.
What can we say in Russian <in Ukraine> when everyone around speaks <in Ukraine> = hard ..

[igordok]

Well this one might just be Chinese in Chiang Kai-shek's army. They used uniforms and German instructors.

[Day 11]

Igor, mine are definitely the Wehrmacht!

[Day 11]

I don’t even argue!

[Day 11]

Interesting Tipchik

[Lech from ZATULINKI]

HINDUS - FROM WHICH EDGE?

[Day 11]

From India, of course!

[Marek Rozny]

Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI

HINDUS - FROM WHICH EDGE?

it is not a Hindu. this is an Azerbaijani. in this photo, the shield on the forearm is poorly visible, in other photos it is better visible. there is an Azerbaijani flag and an inscription in the Latin alphabet "Azerbaijan". Usually Azerbaijani battalions were part of the Turkestan Legion.

[Marek Rozny]

Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI

HINDUS - FROM WHICH EDGE?

it is not a Hindu. this is an Azerbaijani. in this photo, the shield on the forearm is poorly visible, in other photos it is better visible. there is an Azerbaijani flag and an inscription in the Latin alphabet "Azerbaijan". Usually Azerbaijani battalions were part of the Turkestan Legion.

[Day 11]

Cossack, how is he for you?

[Lech from ZATULINKI]

one bullet and will fly beautifully into the air.

[Marek Rozny]

Quote: Den 11

Cossack, how is he for you?

but it’s not like a Cossack, or whether it’s Yugoslav, or else who is Albanian, Bulgarian, or who else. shorter from somewhere in the Balkans like.

[Day 11]

I think a Croat

[Day 11]

True Aryan! Don’t you?

[Lech from ZATULINKI]

these pictures are unfamiliar to me - it is very interesting to know about the biography of these people that made them come to the service of Hitler.

[Day 11]

You can also "grind" this. There was a desire and there will be a conversation in a serious way, not "empty talk." On the topic of the 3rd Reich, I can tell you a lot of things. If you are in the subject, please contact

[Marek Rozny]

Quote: Den 11

True Aryan! Don’t you?

Turkestan) The photograph is noteworthy in that it has a Kubanka, which formally was not a regular headdress in the Turkestan legion. Such were in the Wehrmacht among the Cossacks and the Kalmyks (if I am not mistaken). Maybe he wanted to look like a cavalryman in this way? Now we don’t know.

[Day 11]

Oh, I found (a whole Windows is clogged with info) -

[Day 11]

War-war --- scheduled lunch!

[Lech from ZATULINKI]

I just want to know why people go to fight against their country AND PEOPLE (we omit the ideological side)

[Day 11]

Probably, everything here is individual. Someone for money (money was then a measure of values), someone had "graters" with their power, and someone just "hammered" the brain. For those same Indians, the Fuhrer is He promised mountains of gold (if they drive the Angles out of their country)!

[igordok]

Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI

I just want to know why people go to fight against their country AND PEOPLE

Well, the Indian and the blacks are just for their countries, against the colonialists. First of all, against Britain.

[Lech from ZATULINKI]

Yeah, the HIGH RACE will come - and it will determine all the personal places on the reservation.

[igordok]

Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI

Yeah, the HIGH RACE will come - and it will determine all the personal places on the reservation.

It will be later, but now the main thing is to dump the acting. Yes, and Great Germany and Great Britain in relation to "subhumans", are worth each other.

[Day 11]

I absolutely agree with you! Plus

[Day 11]

Do you know that a very good newspaper was published in the Lokot Republic? Somehow I will post a scan of the first page. There they explained everything very intelligibly to people. RONA (Kaminsky) -heard something on this topic (not to be confused with the Vlasovskaya ROA)? that those who were weak in soul were "led" to this propaganda. And those who did not lose their "inner core" died, but did not fall into the clutches of the enemy alive! (although in war everything is possible)

[MG42]

Quote: Den 11

. On topic 3 of the Reich, I can tell you a lot. If you are in the subject, please contact

The topic smoothly moved from Matrosov’s feat to the discussion of the 3rd Reich, Bravo!

[Day 11]

Ah well done! Who can "rub" this topic with?

[MG42]

Quote: Den 11

Ah well done!

But why hesitate to take the Wehrmacht soldier finely on the avatar, you had Adolf, I told you about the machine gun in PM, no again, restless ..

[Day 11]

Call me, which one is. Come on, drive me to the minus

[Day 11]

Soldier-Kurt Strasser from the 23rd Panzer (a dozen more minuses).

[lelikas]

Quote: MG42

Why embarrassed, took finely on the profile of a Wehrmacht soldier,

The general said with the nickname of the German machine gun

[MG42]

Yes, some it bothers that my login is strictly not consistent with the internal content , like you didn’t notice before .. it’s a weapon and a trophy , the main thing is in whose hands ..

[Day 11]

Why does my avatar bother you? A person ignorant in this matter will not even notice! I didn’t break the law, swastikas and other attributes you will not find

[lelikas]

Yes, it doesn’t bother me - just a very nice skirmish, you could not resist :)

[MG42]

Quote: lelikas

Yes, it doesn’t bother me -

This is good, because I’ve fired back more than once .. WWII veteran Alexey Sirnov with this machine gun >>

[Day 11]

Here is a plus for you! I respect this actor! Indeed, he is 42nd. By the way, he was in intelligence and personally dragged chances, for which he has the Order of Glory!

[lelikas]

It didn’t happen like that -

[Day 11]

And how do you like it?

[MG42]

This is exactly the Germans were with PPSh

Stalingad 1942

[Day 11]

The error is yours-this Hansik PPD (in the bottom photo)

[MG42]

Here is a selection of captured weapons from two sides.
http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/andrey_shwidenko/

[Day 11]

I myself can make such a selection. Unfortunately, I run away to work (maybe I'll look at this thread a couple of times). I can post more serious trophy equipment from ours and nemchury. Don't "kill" the topic, plz

[Marek Rozny]

Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI

I just want to know why people go to fight against their country AND PEOPLE (we omit the ideological side)

They will not speak for all collaborators, but I’ll tell you about photos with Turkestan Wehrmacht soldiers. The idea to create workers' battalions from Turkish-speaking prisoners of war belonged to ethnic Kazakh Mustafa Shokay. He was once the head of the Turkestan government until the Bolsheviks dispersed them and established Soviet power in Central Asia and Kazakhstan. As a result, he ended up in Europe. When the war began, he turned to the Germans with a request to release the Türks from the concentration camps and create working battalions from them. And although he was an ardent enemy of the Bolshevik government, he was categorically against the idea of ​​using the Türks as soldiers fighting against compatriots in the Red Army. For this, the Germans poisoned him and replaced him with the more accommodating Uzbek Vali Kayum (a former Soviet citizen who was sent by the Soviet authorities to study in Europe in the 20s, but decided not to return to his homeland). Vali Kayum willingly agreed to lead the POW Turks as combat units. However, it turned out that Turkic prisoners of war who became Wehrmacht soldiers completely refused to fight against their Soviet relatives. As a result, this whole undertaking failed miserably - Kazakhs, Tatars, Bashkirs, Uzbeks, Azerbaijanis, Kirghiz killed their German commanders at the earliest opportunity and in full force with whole units in arms crossed to the side of the Red Army and partisans. The Germans sent them to fight against the Yugoslav partisans, but the same thing happened there (although the Yugoslavs were too distrustful and killed these defectors who wanted to join the partisans). As a result, the Germans decided to send to the Atlantic Wall for the fight (and construction work) against the Anglo-American troops. But even there, the Turks massively sided with our allies.
The most interesting thing is that the Turks not only refused to fight against their own, but also usually restored (secretly, of course) full-fledged communist cells in units of the Turkestan legion. Imagine a picture - Mongoloid steppes in German uniform pray to Allah every day and at the same time develop a network of party cells in the Wehrmacht battalions. How the Aryans did not lose their minds from this eclecticism - I can’t imagine))))
ZY When the Turkestan battalions were on the territory of the USSR, they still drove the inhabitants of Russian cities crazy - Asians march in German uniform and loudly and clearly sing "Katyusha came ashore ...", "Moscow is my, my country, you are the most beloved ... "and other Red Army march songs

[Marek Rozny]

Quote: Den 11

War-war --- scheduled lunch!

also Turkestans)

[tolan_petrovich]

Eternal memory to the hero!

[Ivanovich47]

The main blame for the fact that the younger generation does not know about the deed of Alexander Matrosov lies with our school. Less and less material about the Great Patriotic War is devoted in textbooks on the history of Russia. History programs include topics that actually discredit our past. With such a formulation of the question, is it possible to instill in young people feelings of patriotism. Not for nothing that the country's leadership raised the question of creating a single textbook on the history of Russia, which would provide knowledge to schoolchildren and bear a great patriotic educational impact. Then modern young people will know the young heroes of the Great Patriotic War.

[individual]

The self-sacrifice of the Russian man in the blood of our people.
Starting from the almost legendary Ivan Susanin led the Polish army in the swamps, sacrifice Young Guards and Zoe Kosmodemyanskoy. The feat of Alexander Matrosov was reflected in a new sound when the battalion commander Sun, Major Sergei Solnechnikov, in March 2012, an emergency happened during a grenade throwing exercise: a shell thrown by a conscript soldier fell into the parapet parapet. The battalion commander instantly orientated himself and threw himself on a grenade, covering it with his body. Thanks to the act of S. Solnechnikov, the servicemen who were on the exercises did not suffer. The soldiers believe that the major saved more than one human life.
When in the schools of Volgograd, his fellow countrymen spent "Day of Courage" students compared the advancement of Alexander Matrosov and Sergei Solnechnikov.
These words sound in unison GLORY TO THE HEROES !

[LOKY]

Glory to the heroes!

[Algor73]

Now there is a lot of negative information about Matrosov, Kosmodemyanskaya, Morozov and others. When I was in school, our pioneer squad bore the name of Alexander Matrosov. For me, he remained a Hero. And I accustom my children to the idea that the world did not come on its own, that it was won for us all, at the cost of many lives ...

[Alf]

Quote: Den 11

Hello Rauf! I absolutely agree with you. I'm not even talking about "white spots" in the history of World War II! Here and adult men think in cliches

A few years ago he traded models in the market. I describe the situation after which you will not surprise me anything.
A man of about 40, normally dressed, is coming up. He points to the stand and asks:
"How much is the tractor?"
My system freezes, I know for sure that I don’t have tractor models.
Me: "Which tractor?"
M: "Well, that's it! And he points to the T-72 model."
Me: "Actually, this is not a tractor, but a Soviet T-72 tank."
Here the man gives out such a pearl, "Who cares, ours or not, the Germans sold it to us anyway."
Me: "Eyes bulging - When?"
M: "In 43rd!"
Me: "Hey, man, have you ever heard about the war? How did the Germans sell him to us, if we were at war with them at that time?"
The man's answer shook me to the very heart - "So what, what fought, it's money!"
I see, the man is absolutely serious and absolutely sure of what he says. And here it was scary for me, and you are youth, youth ...