Military communications in the mountains of Abkhazia are mastering the means of communication of a new generation

About 100, communications specialists from the Russian military base stationed in the territory of Abkhazia, at the Tsabal mountain range, completed three-day special training camps.

During the classes, special attention was paid to the development of the latest portable satellite communications station "Belozer", which recently entered the compound.

The new station is designed to organize satellite radio networks and allows you to send digital and text messages, to negotiate subscribers who are separated from the main forces.

During training camps, the signaling servicemen worked out the technique of building communication through natural obstacles (mountain, forest belt), choosing the optimal place for setting a repeater, and electric drivers improved the skills of extreme driving of special equipment in conditions of rugged terrain and its proper operation.

During 3 days, communications workers worked around 20 standards for deploying and operating field mobile command posts and field communications centers, conducted more than 10 comprehensive training on modern P-149MA1 command and staff machines based on BTR-80 radio stations, P-166 radio stations based on KamAZ -43114, Р-419-МП based on KAMAZ-4350, upgraded integrated hardware and other equipment.

Comments

[Vladimirets]

Communication is the nerves of the troops.

[urich]

And we said this: In communication there are only three stable states of 1) deployment of 2) collapse of 3) complete absence

[Truffoff]

Quote: Draz

Who the fuck in the rain and the mud? Our valiant connection! "

If there is no rain and dirt, we are the head of communications!

[Alexander_]

There is no connection except sex.

[Quiet]

There is no connection except sex.

The best connection is the battalion of carrier pigeons !!!!

[proff41]

Well, yes, the motto of signalmen is communication without marriage ...

[honest jew]

While the signalman shook the coil, the tankman e..l his girlfriend!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Truffoff

If there is no rain and dirt, we are the head of communications!

They said: when there is no rain and dirt, everything is .. except for communication.

[JonnyT]

the life of an army signalman is hard and unpretentious!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: alexkross83

R -161 is the transmitter?

Radio station on a / chassis.

Quote: alexkross83

but all the same R-140 m will not replace anything.

How is it? The 161st covers the frequency range of the 140th, simpler and more reliable.

[Oberst_71]

there is no price for reliability p-140.

[Draz]

P-161U - transmitter
P-161PU - receiver,

anyway so we had

[Sochi]

Sound the dirt - pi ***** connection.

[GreatRussia]

Another reason for the famous pro-NATO character to chew on a tie nervously.

[Truffoff]

There are no special reasons for joy.
NATO radio stations:
military internet
adaptation equipment ~ 25 jumps / second,
data encryption
integrated scanners
high speed video card transfer
GPS receiver.

And we still have TA-57 (telephone, classic) not thrown away.
Two, sometimes three, generations behind.

Early rejoice.

[Draz]

NATO has everything on transistors, in our R-kh lamps, the channel is cleaner and can withstand EMI, trance and freeze and fry and interference ... so that is not so simple.
The lamp can be changed quickly (the maniacs from my appeal dabbled), but if the transistor burns out, the whole board needs to be changed.

[alexkross83]

You have great practice-based logic

[Colonel]

The adaptation equipment "Cherry" was on the R-161 mentioned here (the first session worked in 1985) I will not talk about the ZAS equipment, but the scanners were Japanese AR-3000? AR-5000 Yes, and now is not 1990. Everything flows ...

[Edward72]

And if on the contrary, that it was settled there. Do not we have no bright goals so that in Abkhazia we don’t roll these cars

[Quiet]

Another reason for the famous pro-NATO character to chew on a tie nervously.

Maybe increase the power, then the Georgians will speak electric irons !!!

[cartridge]

When the commander pounded him for the lack of radio communication, our chief of communications liked to justify himself with the phrase: "as you know from a physics course, communication is a random phenomenon."

[alexkross83]

If you lose control, it’s scary to think what will happen in 3 minutes with a whole team when using modern types of weapons ... so now it’s not only a nerve ... but also a life ...

[cartridge]

If you lose control, it’s scary to think what will happen in 3 minutes with the whole team when using modern types of weapons ...

Do not be afraid alexkross83! In 3 minutes there will be nothing! This I tell you with all responsibility!
By the way, do not you know about whom this proverb is composed: "Fear has big eyes!"?

[Melchakov]

Who brings rain and mud - our valiant connection

I think so. We always had problems with communication. Although ... As my mother says:

try to look for positive points everywhere

So, if suddenly such a thing as communication ceases to exist (at least temporarily), you won’t have to get used to it for a long time.

[Falcon]

Author Press Service of the Southern Military District

Curiously, is this what representatives of official authorities place articles on the VO website?

[Truffoff]

Interestingly, but the TA-57, and the radio stations R-161, R-159, R-173 in the army still have?

[urich]

TA-57 will never disappear from the army When capturing prisoners, what is the other truth to pry out? And so two wires in hand and twist the handle! If they don’t even know, they’ll still tell

[Truffoff]

Quote: urich

When capturing prisoners than others to pry the truth

Or make the R-161 with 4 (!) Fixed frequencies calibrate.
If this MIRACLE is still in the troops, then there is no way to do without the TA-57.

[Ascetic]

Quote: Truffoff

Interestingly, but the TA-57, and the radio stations R-161, R-159, R-173 in the army still have?

An example of installing a VHF radio station of the R-173 "Paragraph" range on an autonomous launcher (APU) 15U168 of a mobile ground-based missile complex (PGRK) 15P158 "Topol" with an ICBM 15Zh58 (RT-2PM) Strategic Missile Forces of Russia.
The radio station is installed in the right cockpit (commander's cockpit).

Installed in a special cab niche

[Truffoff]

On the Topol R-173 ?? She was not the most perfect in the 90s?
3rd generation, simplex, 10 spare parts. If only with adaptation equipment?

[Ascetic]

Quote: Truffoff

On the Topol R-173 ??

So how old is Poplar? And while he still serves ... In 1986-87. I happened to take part in staging this complex on the database in one of the divisions of the Strategic Missile Forces. At the Topol-m APU, the communications, combat control and navigation systems are secret, in any case, I personally will not venture to announce.

[Truffoff]

This NATO walkie-talkie scans 8 channels per second. R-173 has 10 spare parts (pre-programmed frequencies) and is converted from frequency to frequency in 3 seconds.

[Colonel]

Truffoff, on Topol R-173 is needed only for communication along the column on the march and to set something tricky cut for this purpose is not advisable. Now about

P-161 with 4 (!) Fixed frequencies

Do you have any idea what you're talking about? R-161 is a radio station consisting of an Equator transmitter, a Flash receiver, Cherry adaptation equipment and a lot of "attachments" such as telegraph or telephone equipment ZAS, etc. are possible. And what you are mentioning is the radio station R-162, which we used to connect the posts of combat and immediate protection with the guard MOBD. It's no secret that Western electronics are better, but how you puff out your cheeks here looks funny. By the way, you are introducing: you are in the woods and apart from the TA-57 and the cable reel you have nothing. How do I listen to the latest news on the broadcasting network?

[alexkross83]

I recognize the native boxes in the 80s in my battalion were :-)

[Dinver]

As the saying goes: "Our microelectronics is the largest microelectronics in the world" ... It is a pity that until now our defense industry cannot catch up with the western one in terms of microelectronics, if we do not catch up at least to buy it from China.

Google will soon make google glass glasses for general consumption, similar devices are being developed for the US Army, and these are communications, all kinds of maps, building plans, a laser rangefinder and a sight for aiming high-precision weapons and a bunch of other advantages that each soldier will have to wear a helmet , and weigh only 200-300 grams.

[Oberst_71]

there are a lot. and instead of the ta-57 fired ta-88

[Suhov]

The concept of "the pipe is calling" takes on a new meaning among the signalmen.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Our communications men need to constantly organize teachings .. well, and naturally with modern means, and most importantly, with competent specialists .. An army without communication is .. well, you remember from history ..

[Draz]

I talked with my platoon commanders, they speak almost all year round in the "field"

[Severok]

And in the mountains for four consecutive days thunderstorms and showers ... Good luck to the signalmen!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

The signalmen are the blood of the Army .. (you shouldn’t really hope for satellites ..) This is in case of a big mess .. I hope our signalmen know Morse code .. and can use it if something happens ..

[Truffoff]

Quote: MIKHAN

(only satellites should not be hoped for

For such cases, there is a TA-57!

[Draz]

Those capable are identified and they "vegetate" in the forearm (underground ), there are laptops with programs for teaching Morse code + we have more classic communication than satellites. In hot spots, a satellite is better; in the event of a large-scale war, all satellites will be useless. So let both modify and improve.

[zbidnev]

It is good that the Russians are now rising army. I hope you will reach the point where this type of exercise will be on a scale no worse than the Soviet. When the thousand-kilometer relay lines were deployed, a communications system was organized for entire armies. Simultaneously with training units REB. Good luck in this difficult matter !!!

[ia-ai00]

Yes ... if the United States is calmly keeping all the users of modern communications via satellites and the Internet "on the fly", then I think the improvement of traditional communications is simply vital! In the photo from "Asket" the communication panel looks somehow rough, here the designers must work to ensure that all these communication means are not only reliable and convenient, but also beautiful and neat, it seems to me.

[Oberst_71]

after Serdyukovschina, it is simply necessary to restore all training and working out tasks on ss. And then the last 2-3 years, almost all training has been curtailed. The troops changed their deployment with such speed that the staffs did not have time to draw up new communication arrangements. The notification was broken, applications for the use of aviation were lost, it is not clear at what communication centers.

[HAM]

Unfortunately, until now, the PRINCIPLE WORKS IN COMMUNICATION: IT IS LOUDER TO SCREAM ONLY MORE HEAR. WHEN WILL NORMAL EQUIPMENT ALREADY BE WITHOUT A COMMUNICATION-NOTHING COMMUNICATION.

[pa_nik]

I, of course, am very happy for the Abkhaz, BUT! I would like the troops of the Central Federal District (and other Federal Districts) to test "the latest means of communication."

[rassom]

it's all interesting and even sometimes great ... but sometimes it seems that progress has gone the wrong way! There is such a thing as telepathy! and all these super-network-centric combat control systems would be down the drain.

[Sochi]

Inspired .. We in the battalion had r-404 one r-409 ... long ago it was.

[Vtel]

Portable station of satellite communication “Belozer” (R-438U)
An upgraded version of the serial portable satellite communications station R-438 “Barrier-T”. Designed for operational communication through the spacecraft "Rainbow-1" with similar or nodal stations. The modernized version in comparison with the serial one provides:
- increase in throughput of the trunk of the spacecraft "Raduga-1" 4 times;
- reduction of the mass of the kit by 3 times;
- full autonomy (without additional blocks) of work in the modes of voice, digital and text messages;
- Docking with any terminal equipment according to customer requirements (including fax machine, personal computer, machine-to-machine communication networks according to X.25 protocol);
- determination of the subscriber’s own coordinates by the built-in receiver of GLONASS / GPS satellite navigation systems with the possibility of their automatic transmission to the control center;
- work in the mode of radio-automatic telephone exchange;
- work of the subscriber unit with a radio extension.
Technical specifications:
Frequency Range at 4 GHz
6 GHz Transmission Frequency Range
Channel speed - 1200 and 2400 bps
Transmitter Power, W 5
Frequency grid, kHz 10
Ready time, min 1
Power consumption at reception, W 10
Power consumption at reception / transmission, W 35
The mass of the station, kg 7.

[roial]

Quote: Vtel

Portable station of satellite communication “Belozer” (R-438U)

Only you forgot to add that the T-231 classified equipment and the AB-1/230 gasoline unit are relied on to it, and with a portable your station smoothly turns into a transport

I studied it back in '96, since then it hasn’t changed much.

And the author of the article at least inserted a new photo, otherwise "Military signalmen in the mountains of Abkhazia are mastering the means of communication of a new generation" and a photo of the troposphere developed in the 60s

[zbidnev]

As they say, this is a small step forward but still forward. Unfortunately, we are great behind in terms of elemental base and means of communication, and by several generations. But the groundwork under the Union was and specialists are still alive. The theoretical foundations of modern communications were laid back in the last century in 60-70 years, now only technologies and means are changing. Although we are behind - there is a kind of advantage in this. We need to learn from the best - who have already survived the competition and not make unnecessary movements on this track, as the Chinese are now. And our peoples do not have talent. Create your own and steal a good alien - in the world they do not disdain what we are worse.

[Thunderbolt]

Comrade signalmen, be vigilant - observe iron discipline on the air!

[proff41]

One of the developers of this station clearly served in ZabVO, the Lesnoy garrison. Or maybe in military unit 44434. The call sign of Belozer is there by ear.