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Military communications in the mountains of Abkhazia are mastering the means of communication of a new generation

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Military communications in the mountains of Abkhazia are mastering the means of communication of a new generation

About 100, communications specialists from the Russian military base stationed in the territory of Abkhazia, at the Tsabal mountain range, completed three-day special training camps.


During the classes, special attention was paid to the development of the latest portable satellite communications station "Belozer", which recently entered the compound.

The new station is designed to organize satellite radio networks and allows you to send digital and text messages, to negotiate subscribers who are separated from the main forces.

During training camps, the signaling servicemen worked out the technique of building communication through natural obstacles (mountain, forest belt), choosing the optimal place for setting a repeater, and electric drivers improved the skills of extreme driving of special equipment in conditions of rugged terrain and its proper operation.

During 3 days, communications workers worked around 20 standards for deploying and operating field mobile command posts and field communications centers, conducted more than 10 comprehensive training on modern P-149MA1 command and staff machines based on BTR-80 radio stations, P-166 radio stations based on KamAZ -43114, Р-419-МП based on KAMAZ-4350, upgraded integrated hardware and other equipment.
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 20 June 2013 19: 09 New
    +3
    Communication is the nerves of the troops.
    1. urich
      urich 20 June 2013 19: 42 New
      12
      And we said this: In communication there are only three stable states of 1) deployment of 2) collapse of 3) complete absence laughing
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        1. Truffoff
          Truffoff 20 June 2013 20: 51 New
          +7
          Quote: Draz
          Who the fuck in the rain and in the mud? Our valiant connection! "

          If there is no rain and dirt, we are the head of communications! laughing drinks
          1. Alexander_
            Alexander_ 20 June 2013 22: 39 New
            +4
            There is no connection except sex.
            1. Quiet
              Quiet 25 June 2013 19: 53 New
              0
              There is no connection except sex.

              The best connection is the battalion of carrier pigeons !!!! laughing
            2. proff41
              proff41 26 June 2013 10: 08 New
              0
              Well, yes, the motto of signalmen is communication without marriage ...
          2. honest jew
            honest jew 21 June 2013 05: 14 New
            -6
            While the signalman shook the coil, the tankman e..l his girlfriend! laughing
          3. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 21 June 2013 08: 48 New
            0
            Quote: Truffoff
            If there is no rain and dirt, we are the head of communications!

            They said: when there is no rain and dirt, everything is .. except for communication.
            1. JonnyT
              JonnyT 21 June 2013 10: 19 New
              0
              the life of an army signalman is hard and unpretentious!
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          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 21 June 2013 08: 54 New
            0
            Quote: alexkross83
            R -161 is the transmitter?

            Radio station on a / chassis.
            Quote: alexkross83
            but all the same R-140 m will not replace anything.

            How is it? The 161st covers the frequency range of the 140th, simpler and more reliable.
            1. Oberst_71
              Oberst_71 21 June 2013 09: 08 New
              +1
              there is no price for reliability p-140.
          2. Draz
            Draz 21 June 2013 10: 10 New
            +1
            P-161U - transmitter
            P-161PU - receiver,

            anyway so we had
        3. Sochi
          Sochi 21 June 2013 09: 20 New
          0
          Sound the dirt - pi ***** connection.
      2. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 20 June 2013 20: 58 New
        +2
        Another reason for the famous pro-NATO character to chew on a tie nervously.
        1. Truffoff
          Truffoff 20 June 2013 21: 41 New
          +3
          There are no special reasons for joy.
          NATO radio stations:
          military internet
          adaptation equipment ~ 25 jumps / second,
          data encryption
          integrated scanners
          high speed video card transfer
          GPS receiver.

          And we still have TA-57 (telephone, classic) not thrown away.
          Two, sometimes three, generations behind.

          Early rejoice.
          1. Draz
            Draz 20 June 2013 22: 26 New
            +3
            NATO has everything on transistors, in our R-kh lamps, the channel is cleaner and can withstand EMI, trance and freeze and fry and interference ... so that is not so simple.
            The lamp can be changed quickly (the maniacs from my appeal dabbled), but if the transistor burns out, the whole board needs to be changed. yes
            1. alexkross83
              alexkross83 21 June 2013 00: 42 New
              +2
              You have great practice-based logic hi
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          3. Colonel
            Colonel 21 June 2013 07: 52 New
            0
            The adaptation equipment "Cherry" stood on the R-161 mentioned here (the first session worked out in 1985) I won’t talk about ZAC equipment, but did the scanners stand the Japanese AR-3000? AR-5000 recourse Yes, and now is not 1990. Everything flows ...
        2. Edward72
          Edward72 20 June 2013 21: 45 New
          0
          And if on the contrary, that it was settled there. Do not we have no bright goals so that in Abkhazia we don’t roll these cars
        3. Quiet
          Quiet 20 June 2013 22: 53 New
          +2
          Another reason for the famous pro-NATO character to chew on a tie nervously.

          Maybe increase the power, then the Georgians will speak electric irons !!! belay wassat bully lol
      3. cartridge
        cartridge 21 June 2013 07: 28 New
        0
        Our chief of communications, when the commander was tearing him for the lack of radio communications, liked to make excuses with the phrase: "as you know from the course of physics, communications are an accidental phenomenon" laughing
    2. alexkross83
      alexkross83 21 June 2013 00: 29 New
      +1
      If you lose control, it’s scary to think what will happen in 3 minutes with a whole team when using modern types of weapons ... so now it’s not only a nerve ... but also a life ...
      1. cartridge
        cartridge 21 June 2013 08: 05 New
        0
        If you lose control, it’s scary to think what will happen in 3 minutes with the whole team when using modern types of weapons ...


        Do not be afraid alexkross83! In 3 minutes there will be nothing! This I tell you with all responsibility! soldier
        By the way, you don’t know about whom this proverb is composed: “Fear has big eyes!”? wink
  2. Melchakov
    Melchakov 20 June 2013 19: 20 New
    +5
    Who brings rain and mud - our valiant connection
    I think so. We always had problems with communication. Although ... As my mother says:
    try to look for positive points everywhere
    So, if suddenly such a thing as communication ceases to exist (at least temporarily), you won’t have to get used to it for a long time.
  3. Falcon
    Falcon 20 June 2013 19: 27 New
    0
    Author Press Service of the Southern Military District
    Curiously, is this what representatives of official authorities place articles on the VO website?
  4. Truffoff
    Truffoff 20 June 2013 19: 35 New
    -2
    Interestingly, but the TA-57, and the radio stations R-161, R-159, R-173 in the army still have?
    1. urich
      urich 20 June 2013 19: 45 New
      +8
      TA-57 will never disappear from the army laughing When capturing prisoners, what is the other truth to pry out? And so two wires in hand and twist the handle! If they don’t even know, they’ll still tell laughing
      1. Truffoff
        Truffoff 20 June 2013 20: 02 New
        -2
        Quote: urich
        When capturing prisoners than others to pry the truth


        Or make the R-161 with 4 (!) Fixed frequencies calibrate.
        If this MIRACLE is still in the troops, then there is no way to do without the TA-57.
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 20 June 2013 20: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: Truffoff
      Interestingly, but the TA-57, and the radio stations R-161, R-159, R-173 in the army still have?


      An example of the installation of a VHF radio station of the R-173 “Paragraph” range on an autonomous launcher (APU) 15U168 of a mobile soil missile system (PGRK) 15P158 "Topol" with an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) 15Zh58 (RT-2PM) of the Strategic Missile Forces of Russia.
      The radio station is installed in the right cockpit (commander's cockpit).



      Installed in a special cab niche



      1. Truffoff
        Truffoff 20 June 2013 20: 40 New
        -1
        On the Topol R-173 ?? She was not the most perfect in the 90s?
        3rd generation, simplex, 10 spare parts. If only with adaptation equipment?
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 20 June 2013 20: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: Truffoff
          On the Topol R-173 ??


          So how old is Poplar? And while he still serves ... In 1986-87. I happened to take part in staging this complex on the database in one of the divisions of the Strategic Missile Forces. At the Topol-m APU, the communications, combat control and navigation systems are secret, in any case, I personally will not venture to announce.
          1. Truffoff
            Truffoff 20 June 2013 21: 08 New
            -1
            This NATO walkie-talkie scans 8 channels per second. R-173 has 10 spare parts (pre-programmed frequencies) and is converted from frequency to frequency in 3 seconds.
            1. Colonel
              Colonel 21 June 2013 09: 00 New
              +1
              Truffoff, on Topol R-173 is needed only for communication along the column on the march and to set something tricky cut for this purpose is not advisable. Now about
              P-161 with 4 (!) Fixed frequencies
              Do you have any idea what you're talking about? R-161 is a radio station consisting of the Equator transmitter, the Flash receiver, the Cherry adaptation equipment and the mass of attachments such as ZAS telegraph or telephone equipment and so on. And what you mention is the R-162 radio station, which we used to link the combat and direct guard posts with the guard MOBD. The fact that Western electronics is better is not a secret, but how you puff out your cheeks here looks ridiculous. By the way, you are introductory: you are in the forest and apart from the TA-57 and the cable reel, you have nothing. How to listen to the latest news on the broadcast network?
      2. alexkross83
        alexkross83 21 June 2013 00: 44 New
        +1
        I recognize the native boxes in the 80s in my battalion were :-)
        1. Dinver
          Dinver 21 June 2013 05: 13 New
          0
          As the saying goes: "Our microelectronics is the largest microelectronics in the world" ... It is unfortunate that so far our defense industry cannot catch up with the western one in terms of microelectronics, unless you even catch up with it from China.

          Google will soon make google glass glasses for general consumption, similar devices are being developed for the US Army, and these are communications, all kinds of maps, building plans, a laser rangefinder and a sight for aiming high-precision weapons and a bunch of other advantages that each soldier will have to wear a helmet , and weigh only 200-300 grams.
    3. Oberst_71
      Oberst_71 21 June 2013 09: 10 New
      +1
      there are a lot. and instead of the ta-57 fired ta-88
  5. Suhov
    Suhov 20 June 2013 19: 42 New
    +1
    For signalmen, the notion of a “pipe calls” takes on a new meaning.
    smile
  6. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 20 June 2013 19: 48 New
    +2
    Our communications men need to constantly organize teachings .. well, and naturally with modern means, and most importantly, with competent specialists .. An army without communication is .. well, you remember from history ..
    1. Draz
      Draz 20 June 2013 20: 50 New
      +2
      Communicated with his platoon, they say almost all year round in the "field" hi
  7. Severok
    Severok 20 June 2013 20: 13 New
    +2
    And in the mountains for four consecutive days thunderstorms and showers ... Good luck to the signalmen!
  8. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 20 June 2013 21: 06 New
    +2
    The signalmen are the blood of the Army .. (you shouldn’t really hope for satellites ..) This is in case of a big mess .. I hope our signalmen know Morse code .. and can use it if something happens ..
    1. Truffoff
      Truffoff 20 June 2013 21: 10 New
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      (only satellites should not be hoped for

      For such cases, there is a TA-57! laughing
    2. Draz
      Draz 20 June 2013 22: 30 New
      +2
      Able to identify and they "vegetate" in the forend (dungeon wassat ), there are laptops with programs for teaching Morse code + we have more classic communication than satellites. In hot spots, a satellite is better; in the event of a large-scale war, all satellites will be useless. So let both modify and improve.
  9. zbidnev
    zbidnev 20 June 2013 22: 10 New
    +8
    It is good that the Russians are now rising army. I hope you will reach the point where this type of exercise will be on a scale no worse than the Soviet. When the thousand-kilometer relay lines were deployed, a communications system was organized for entire armies. Simultaneously with training units REB. Good luck in this difficult matter !!!
  10. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 21 June 2013 06: 04 New
    0
    Yes ... if the United States calmly keeps all users of modern communications through satellites and the Internet on the spot, then I think the improvement of traditional communications is simply vital! In the photo from "Ascetic" the communication panel looks somewhat rude, and here the designers have to work to make sure that all these communication tools are not only reliable and convenient, but also beautiful and neat, it seems to me.
  11. Oberst_71
    Oberst_71 21 June 2013 09: 18 New
    0
    after Serdyukovschina, it is simply necessary to restore all training and working out tasks on ss. And then the last 2-3 years, almost all training has been curtailed. The troops changed their deployment with such speed that the staffs did not have time to draw up new communication arrangements. The notification was broken, applications for the use of aviation were lost, it is not clear at what communication centers.
  12. HAM
    HAM 21 June 2013 09: 34 New
    +1
    Unfortunately, until now, the PRINCIPLE WORKS IN COMMUNICATION: IT IS LOUDER TO SCREAM ONLY MORE HEAR. WHEN WILL NORMAL EQUIPMENT ALREADY BE WITHOUT A COMMUNICATION-NOTHING COMMUNICATION.
  13. pa_nik
    pa_nik 21 June 2013 10: 05 New
    +1
    Of course, I am very happy for the Abkhaz, BUT! I would like the troops of the Central Federal District (and other federal districts) to experience "the latest means of communication." hi
  14. rassom
    rassom 21 June 2013 10: 12 New
    0
    it's all interesting and even sometimes great ... but sometimes it seems that progress has gone the wrong way! There is such a thing as telepathy! and all these super-network-centric combat control systems would be down the drain.
  15. Sochi
    Sochi 21 June 2013 10: 26 New
    0
    Inspired .. We in the battalion had r-404 one r-409 ... long ago it was.
  16. Vtel
    Vtel 21 June 2013 10: 37 New
    0
    Portable station of satellite communication “Belozer” (R-438U)
    An upgraded version of the serial portable satellite communications station R-438 “Barrier-T”. Designed for operational communication through the spacecraft "Rainbow-1" with similar or nodal stations. The modernized version in comparison with the serial one provides:
    - increase in throughput of the trunk of the spacecraft "Raduga-1" 4 times;
    - reduction of the mass of the kit by 3 times;
    - full autonomy (without additional blocks) of work in the modes of voice, digital and text messages;
    - Docking with any terminal equipment according to customer requirements (including fax machine, personal computer, machine-to-machine communication networks according to X.25 protocol);
    - determination of the subscriber’s own coordinates by the built-in receiver of GLONASS / GPS satellite navigation systems with the possibility of their automatic transmission to the control center;
    - work in the mode of radio-automatic telephone exchange;
    - work of the subscriber unit with a radio extension.
    Technical specifications:
    Frequency Range at 4 GHz
    6 GHz Transmission Frequency Range
    Channel speed - 1200 and 2400 bps
    Transmitter Power, W 5
    Frequency grid, kHz 10
    Ready time, min 1
    Power consumption at reception, W 10
    Power consumption at reception / transmission, W 35
    The mass of the station, kg 7.
  17. roial
    roial 21 June 2013 13: 24 New
    -1
    Quote: Vtel
    Portable station of satellite communication “Belozer” (R-438U)


    Only you forgot to add that the T-231 classified equipment and the AB-1/230 gasoline unit are relied on to it, and with a portable your station smoothly turns into a transport laughing

    I studied it back in '96, since then it hasn’t changed much.

    And the author of the article at least inserted a new photo, or else "Military signalmen in the mountains of Abkhazia are mastering the means of communication of a new generation"
  18. zbidnev
    zbidnev 21 June 2013 21: 26 New
    0
    As they say, this is a small step forward but still forward. Unfortunately, we are great behind in terms of elemental base and means of communication, and by several generations. But the groundwork under the Union was and specialists are still alive. The theoretical foundations of modern communications were laid back in the last century in 60-70 years, now only technologies and means are changing. Although we are behind - there is a kind of advantage in this. We need to learn from the best - who have already survived the competition and not make unnecessary movements on this track, as the Chinese are now. And our peoples do not have talent. Create your own and steal a good alien - in the world they do not disdain what we are worse.
  19. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 25 June 2013 20: 11 New
    0
    Comrade signalmen, be vigilant - observe iron discipline on the air!
  20. proff41
    proff41 26 June 2013 10: 12 New
    0
    One of the developers of this station clearly served in ZabVO, the Lesnoy garrison. Or maybe in military unit 44434. The call sign of Belozer is there by ear.