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BAM - the last building of socialism

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Much has been written about BAM on the Net, I would even say that very much. However, the study of materials from 10-ti different sites issued by Google for the request "Baikal-Amur Mainline история building "and occupying places on the citation index from about 1 to 50, leads to the same idea: we built it and finally built it ... And what do we do with all this now?


BAM - the last building of socialism


Proposals for the use of BAM weight. But what is interesting is: why did they start building it, if they still cannot decide what to adapt for it? The answer to this question is usually the same: what do you want, this was the construction of the century! The main thing was to build, and why - this is another question!

However, let us try to proceed from another principle voiced by A. de Saint-Exupéry in The Little Prince: "if the stars are lit, it means someone needs it." Suppose now that these goals have lost relevance, but still: why did Stalin and Brezhnev build the Baikal-Amur Mainline? Let us take the axiom that they still had a goal and see what happens with this.



For me, this topic is all the more relevant because in 1989-1991 I myself was in active military service at BAM. For those who are interested: I served in the Internal Troops of special purpose for the protection of railway facilities: bridges and tunnels of the Baikal-Amur Mainline.

To begin, I want to draw your attention to some dates.

So in 1906 year (immediately after the Russian-Japanese war), the idea of ​​the second Transsib is being discussed (and not for the first time!), and even exploratory work is being carried out.
Then everything subsides to 1924 of the year. This year, in the perspective plan for the construction of railways, the "contour" of the second Trans-Siberian Railway is already marked.

В 1930 Year Dalkraykom VKP (b) goes to the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR with a proposal to begin the design and construction of the second Trans-Siberian railway with access to the Pacific Ocean. In this document, the road was first named the Baikal-Amur Mainline.

В 1933 year of the Central Committee of the CPSU (b) and the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR decided to build BAM. In fact, this year the exploration and design work on the future road is just beginning.

В 1937 year, a decision is made to begin construction of the Taishet-Sovetskaya harbor section. Both names are key. Taishet is that fork where Trassib and BAM each go their own way, and Sovetskaya Harbor is the end of the earth: the shore of the Pacific Ocean.

В 1938-1940 years, there are works (it is not known what) on the site Baikal-Chara-Tyndinsky.

В 1940 year completed the first design task of the entire highway. However, through trains on BAM still do not go and will start to go not soon - not one decade will pass before this point.
After this, the construction does not stop at all, but goes in small sections and not very quickly. It is understandable - war and post-war devastation do not provide an opportunity to conduct full-scale work.

In essence, the Stalinist BAM ends 1951 the year when trains began to reach Lena station (Ust-Kut) in the west, and in the east the following branches were built: Komsomolsk-on-Amur-Sovetskaya harbor and Izvestkovaya-Urgal. Both sections at that time were more like Transsib branches than an independent railway.

Further up to 1967 the year nothing supernatural happens. Some work is being done, mostly of local importance, but serious money is not being invested. And suddenly in 1967m begin (attention!) "large-scale design and survey work throughout the BAM route."

В 1974 year construction work takes place throughout the highway. 15 March 1974 year Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev called BAM "the most important construction site of the 9th five-year plan." 26 April the first shock Komsomol detachment is being created, July 27 Pravda publishes an editorial article "From Baikal to Amur" - the first editorial of the BAM. Same at July 1974 a permanent commission on the construction and development of BAM is created.



From this point on, the construction, as they say, has gone. The pace and scale of construction is staggering. And eyewitnesses tell legends about this building! .. And not only about heroism and shock work. So, for example, I was told that the construction equipment was overtaken by the sea. And almost all of it was Japanese (!). On the one hand, it is closer to drive than from Europe, and on the other, how much should it cost? Bulldozers, excavators, graders, what else they had. And nobody repaired this equipment and did not even serve it: it worked for how long it worked. Broke - it to the side and bring a new one. Funny episode: among the Japanese, each such unit was accompanied by a set of clothes for the worker. Overalls, jacket, cap - all from denim. It is in Siberia, then! .. Of course, that all this nobody wore - sold on the mainland. You know what cost jeans. And here, as they say, quite stylish clothes were, not "liwis", of course, but still ...

I saw near the village of Kholodny (a good name, really? Somehow it warms ...) and the remnants of the BAMLag from Stalin times. Unfortunately I did not have the opportunity to question the local on this topic. It's a pity...

But we digress. In short, at the end of 1989, I personally met the first through train as part of the regimental orchestra, which passed through BAM. Actually, this would have been the end of the construction history, but the North Muysky tunnel still remained. It was commissioned (attention again!) Only in December 2001 (!) Of the year. The thing is that initially they wanted to make this tunnel the longest not in the world, not in Europe, but everything didn’t work. If I do not confuse anything, at first it should have become the longest in the world, then, after several failures and accidents, the bar was lowered to Europe (although I don’t understand how you can be the longest tunnel in Europe while in deep Asia) , but also - God knows how many years he was carrying with him. And what can I say, if even during the construction of the Baikal tunnel, which I guarded and which are only some 7 kilometers, drifts came across an underground river a few hundred meters before the link. There was an accident, a collapse, they said there were victims, after which it was almost a mile and a half before the bond. Like this.



What do we have as a result? And we have, in fact, three, so to speak, surge of interest in the construction of BAM from society and the government. The first one is at the beginning of the 20th century, the second one is in the 30-40 years and the third one is at the end of the 60's and to the bitter end.
Have you guessed it yet? But I even gave a hint at the very beginning!

The need to build the Baikal-Amur Mainline seriously arose if and only if the war started on our eastern borders or there was a threat of its beginning.

Judge for yourself:
1. The beginning of the 20th century - Russian-Japanese war. Immediately after it, survey work begins. Actually, already then the relevant ministries and departments became clear two points:
First, Japan has ceased to be a thing in itself, it seeks to escape from the island grip, and moreover, it will now have to be considered as a country with very real power.
Secondly, in the event of hostilities in the Far East or Eastern Siberia on the part of Japan or China, Russia (and later the USSR) will have serious problems with the railways, because Transsib is too close to the state border (and The Trans-Siberian Railway was still under construction and a part of the Trans-Siberian Railway, if my memory serves me, generally walked through the territory of China).
It seems to me that the experience of the Civil War in Siberia showed the same thing: the presence of the second Trans-Siberian highway is highly desirable. That is why already in 1924 year, it is included in the long-term plan for the construction of railways.

2. 30-ies - Hasan (1936) and Khalkhin-Gol (1939) everyone has heard. But these are only two of the most famous episodes of the Soviet-Japanese confrontation. In fact, the Soviet Union all this time was in a state of undeclared war with Japan. On the other hand, at about the same time as the end of the first phase of BAM, the USSR signs a non-aggression pact with Japan. And the construction is already far from such a pace. Although underway. Despite the war. Stalin knew that he would have to deal with Japan after Germany anyway and, as far as circumstances allowed, he was preparing for this.

Well 60-70-s - confrontation with China. Damansky Island (see, for example, the newspaper "Soviet Russia" from 1 on April 1969 on our website) and the like. Yes, I myself remember in childhood the conversations of mothers whose sons went to the Army: God, if only not on the Chinese border! patience snapped and it was decided to finally build, finally, rokadnuyu railway in the depths of the territory. Although single-track, at least some, whatever, but any road will be better than if there is no.



This is the main idea that I want to convey to you in this article: BAM first of all is a strategic rokadnaya railway! And for this purpose it was built throughout the XX century. That is his main purpose - just to be. In peacetime, I agree, it still cannot be used sensibly, but God forbid that in those parts BAM will become the main artery of the Far Eastern war.

This idea is certainly not new, moreover, I do not insist that this is the only reason for which it was decided to build the Baikal-Amur Mainline.

Posters since BAM:






Several digressions
1. Rock road - This is a road that runs in our rear parallel to the existing or proposed front line. In this case, parallel to the existing borders of the USSR. The presence of such a road in the deep rear provides an opportunity for maneuvering by troops and equipment along the entire front line.

2. When I was in the ranks of the Armed Forces, I learned that in the entire Soviet Union, only two railways were guarded by troops at that time. As it is easy to guess, these were Transsib and BAM. To this end, two divisions of internal troops were deployed throughout the entire route. I wonder how things are now.

3. Please note: even in 90-s, when, it would seem, BAM was anathematized, as another stupid venture of Kremlin dreamers, funding for the construction of the North Muya tunnel did not stop! It was probably cut down, but not completely stopped, although there was a bypass branch and through trains through BAM. Just the throughput of this branch is very small, this is the very eye of the needle, into which it is so difficult (in which case) the camel will crawl through.

4. And another thing: it may well be that the urgent need to build the Baikal-Amur Mainline (along with Afghanistan) halted the implementation of another “Great Project”: Northern River Transfer Project. Apparently, the realization of two such ideas at once, and even with an open front in Afghanistan, was still not affordable for the Soviet Union, even with its petrodollars in the 70s.
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  1. avt
    avt 17 June 2013 08: 37 New
    +9
    Great construction of the USSR! Extremely necessary for the country. As soon as the Gaidar reformers did not mock her, and now they whine that the throughput is small request . But the plans also included a continuation that would gradually improve life in the Far East! Right now, reluctantly, it seems, they are pulling the road to Yakutia, but Stalin also had plans for a bridge or tunnel to Sakhalin, and they also looked at the railway line to Kamchatka.
  2. BARKAS
    BARKAS 17 June 2013 08: 59 New
    +5
    BAM and power plants were built for the development of industry in the region; if our unfortunate reformers refused to build industrial centers, then of course why would they need BAM.
    1. Gooch
      17 June 2013 14: 19 New
      +5
      Quote: BARKAS
      BAM and power plants were built for the development of industry in the region; if our unfortunate reformers refused to build industrial centers, then of course why would they need BAM.

      This was originally not a profitable investment, the Soviet leadership in any case understood that if the eastern regions of Siberia were not developed, the economy would permanently stop, and here I do not want to transport such deposits, natural resources, transport. But right now the market economy, investments, rye is all that will invest money here if to get $ 100 profitable you need to invest 150-200 cu, of course everything will go into desolation.
      1. Irkutsk
        Irkutsk 17 June 2013 14: 49 New
        +5
        By type of work, I had to go round the western half of BAM more than once. All that is needed for the functioning of the road is present and working, where it is necessary to upgrade. The question of what to do with the road is not worth it, it is used in accordance with its bandwidth. Yes, people left after construction, and you try to live there. The nature is beautiful, there is a beast and fish, but I would not live. Locals know where there are deposits, it’s obvious the time of production has not come yet.
        1. Gooch
          17 June 2013 14: 59 New
          +5
          Quote: Irkutsk
          By type of work, I had to go round the western half of BAM more than once. All that is needed for the functioning of the road is present and working, where it is necessary to upgrade. The question of what to do with the road is not worth it, it is used in accordance with its bandwidth. Yes, people left after construction, and you try to live there. The nature is beautiful, there is a beast and fish, but I would not live. Locals know where there are deposits, it’s obvious the time of production has not come yet.

          I live here, I wouldn’t say that hell is right) everything is clean, neat, beautiful.)
          each year they still shell mountains in difficult places) there is a lot of snow)

          Almost the same)
          1. Irkutsk
            Irkutsk 17 June 2013 16: 16 New
            0
            I did not speak about HELL, I wrote purely about myself, I grew up in the south of Lake Baikal, in the north I feel uncomfortable. As an avalanche is driven out of a gun, I saw it on Daban.
            1. Gooch
              17 June 2013 16: 29 New
              -1
              Quote: Irkutsk
              I did not speak about HELL, I wrote purely about myself, I grew up in the south of Lake Baikal, in the north I feel uncomfortable. As an avalanche is driven out of a gun, I saw it on Daban.

              I lived in your area in Irkutsk, a little over a year, IMHO the weather is better than ours, not so dry, still the Angara is nearby, and there are no winds as severe as in the North.)
              1. Irkutsk
                Irkutsk 17 June 2013 17: 24 New
                +2
                And I'm talking about the same thing.
            2. Shadowcat
              Shadowcat 18 June 2013 03: 02 New
              +1
              Countryman!)
              Litter for offtopic)
    2. atalef
      atalef 17 June 2013 14: 43 New
      +3
      Quote: BARKAS
      BAM and power plants were built for the development of industry in the region; if our unfortunate reformers refused to build industrial centers, then of course why would they need BAM.

      The problem is that the places that it was necessary to serve on a rotational basis developed into residential settlements, and then no one could pull this infrastructure. It was necessary to build centers (Bamovskys), and then slowly develop the periphery. We, as always, wanted everything at once, but on enthusiasm, as a result, the bulk were temporary workers. Although the money paid by Tan was simply not real, and the supply was almost like in Moscow. The road is necessary, important, but as always it has turned into a long-term construction.
      1. mogus
        mogus 17 June 2013 16: 35 New
        0
        a little bit wrong.
        In fear of the collapse of the country, financial flows to the center were taken away and the election of governors replaced by appointment. Putin spoke about the return of the elections, because a difficult period has passed, but the appointment will be left in the Caucasus.
        http://gnkk.ru/articles/stsenarii-razvitiya-sibiri.html - объем поступлений в бюджет за счет ресурсов (а их не в метро добывают). Конкретные цифры доходов http://gazetavremya.ru/latestnews/23888-moskva-hochet-otdat-sibir-goskorporacii.
        html
        About changing the unfair flow of finance (Putin says) http://izvestia.ru/news/549532
        Some quotes:
        - Offer to scatter
        company offices with
        state participation throughout the country
        Valentina Matvienko
        voiced at the meeting
        Vladimir Putin with the Council of Legislators. Speaker
        Of the Federation Council is sure
        what if giants like
        Gazprom, Russian Railways, Bashneft,
        will not deduct taxes
        Moscow, and in the Russian outback, it will become big
        help budgets
        regions. Many of
        constituent entities of the
        according to Matvienko, now
        barely cope with social
        obligations without saying
        already about launches
        infrastructure projects.
        - - The only question is
        don't do it abruptly and don't
        to expose the treasury of Moscow itself,
        - he said. - At Moscow
        have your own plans, including
        investment development plans, and dramatically simple
        take and cut them off these
        financial flows is
        means to create real
        problems in the capital. But that,
        that you need to move in this direction is
        absolutely for sure.
        - - In a number of regions, expenses
        salary budget
        reach 80% and not at all
        funds left on
        construction of kindergartens, -
        states Matvienko. In this regard, she offers
        change existing
        proportions
        co-financing
        regions and federal
        the center of a number of projects. In particular, reduce the size
        deductions of regions on
        resettlement of citizens from
        dilapidated and emergency housing
        (now most of
        local budgets must pay).
        The Kremlin promised to think.
        Offers Matvienko
        change and rules
        program financing
        Housing Orphans - to the Feds and
        the regions paid equally, and
        not 20 and 80% respectively
        like now.
        - Almost 75%
        Russian exports in 2012
        ($ 410 billion) are goods mined or
        recycled beyond the Urals. AND
        6,5 trillion rubles, or 50,7% of all
        federal income
        budget - income from
        mining tax and duty on
        oil, gas and
        petroleum products. Mined
        these wealth, of course,
        not in Moscow. And not even in
        Petersburg. So is it worth it to think about
        leave part of the taxes in
        resource extraction regions?
        -
  3. Lopatov
    Lopatov 17 June 2013 09: 21 New
    +2
    Critical railway for Russia. If not mistaken, now single-track. It is necessary to upgrade. Russian Railways shareholders should moderate their appetites in terms of dividends.
    1. Oberst_71
      Oberst_71 17 June 2013 13: 54 New
      +3
      For those prices for train tickets, you can probably build many more tunnels and bridges, of course, if you don’t put a lot in your pocket.
      1. Irkutsk
        Irkutsk 17 June 2013 14: 20 New
        +2
        Just to blurt out. The main income from Russian Railways from freight, low-income passenger, suburban unprofitable
    2. MG42
      MG42 17 June 2013 14: 23 New
      +4
      Quote: Spade
      Critical railway for Russia.

      Including as an element of protection of the Far East from attacks from the territory of China.
      1. avt
        avt 17 June 2013 14: 30 New
        +5
        Quote: MG42
        Including as an element of protection of the Far East from attacks from the territory of China.

        So the classic Rokada. Here would still be from Levitin to ask for a parallel highway.
  4. Novel
    Novel 17 June 2013 10: 07 New
    +5
    ... leads to the same thought: we built, and finally built ... And what do we do now with all this? ... They showed on TV a meeting on housing and communal services with Putin, during a difficult conversation about decaying sector, one of the present "thinkers", with annoyance, uttered something similar, they say set up the Soviet Union of houses, a bunch of communications, and WE are now parted .. get out.
  5. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 17 June 2013 10: 08 New
    +4
    I am proud that I was born in the USSR
  6. mogus
    mogus 17 June 2013 10: 26 New
    +1
    The Russian Railways speak of a “neck” from the Petrovsky Zavod station and further east - low throughput from this section (after all, they themselves reduced everything during perestroika). Now, the money for expanding the pass is included in the program for the Development of Siberia and Far East (forgotten at first, sent for revision), but in fact silence ... but they are expanding the metro in Moscow. You need only at least half the money earned here and invest here, and not through the "center" where they settle.
    1. avt
      avt 17 June 2013 13: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: mogus
      but expand the metro in Moscow. You need only at least half the money earned here and invest here, and not through the "center" where they settle.

      Yes, it’s not a question about the metro in Moscow and you have heard from Petersburgers, you can’t expand it, only then enter a residence permit in Moscow, the limit instead of quotas for visiting workers, the road tax has been partially transferred to Luzhkov’s regions, well, if the capital’s functions are with subventions, which if they don’t pay in full, then I would halve the road tax again. Yes, I’m sure and then you will whine, even if you transfer the capital to your town, all the same budget funds will be laundered through the regions and through the bank, I think everything equally moskavsky and whether St. Petersburg will be taken to offshore. The song will change but not much, the officials of your new capital flyman will say that the money is planned and sent, and the regionals will answer that we sent taxes to the new capital and didn’t get back, or so little was enough they will close empty CSs and receive money for the work done, at least for the presidential CPU, at least for the purchase of tomographs not from the manufacturer’s company and from which company they have their own daughters or son and buy apartments in the hated Moscow and St. Petersburg. And b you can groan again, but probably already at a qualitatively new level, as we now have white-breasted women in Moscow, it's about time to bring them out of the rash "Or maybe the brain still reboots and thinks why it settled down like that after the 90s and it lives according to Gaidar's - the market will regulate everything ?
      1. mogus
        mogus 17 June 2013 15: 44 New
        +3
        Your position is clear. Let money continue to settle in the same city, because it is the capital and by its status is laid down, but it will cost. For such snobbery you are not loved in the regions.
        I cited earlier links and quoted from them that in some regions, on payments zp state employees spend up to 80% of all money - is this a fair distribution?
        Protein - in the regions they do not support, despite the difficult situation. They play on the current situation - this situation arose due to the inaction of the authorities.
        Fell - one countrywoman in the United States; relative in Austria; a cousin was offered to stay in Germany, but he was there (Ural). In their own way, they are talented people, but they don’t want to realize themselves in a city where they will be considered "come here" and I understand them, but such opportunities are not developed in the regions. If I didn’t apply for the green card, but they sent me an offer, then there I will be more needed. Also came an offer from the "dream job" - the bourgeois "labor exchange".
        Moscow-Petersburg - with the advent of new owners of enterprises with a residence permit in Moscow - you can immediately look for another job - everything will fall apart. Where I live, the St. Petersburg company "Orimi wood" unfolds - the more I can, the more I help the director - jobs for people.
        While the authorities think that it would be necessary to change the system of financial flow from 70% to the center - 30% in place (over the remainder of 30% there is a subsidy), the last people will run away by 50% / 50%. But the existing financial system is quite suitable for you?
        If you say what you need to do yourself, I’ll repeat that I’m an IP and I know for myself that it is not possible to do anything serious where people have zp 10-15 thousand rubles considered good - can they afford a lot?
        1. avt
          avt 17 June 2013 16: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: mogus
          Your position is clear. Let money continue to settle in the same city, because it is the capital and by its status is laid down, but it will cost. For such snobbery you are not loved in the regions.

          request I do not like Zadornov as a person, but he is right when he throws him into the hall — these people cannot live well. Here's a proverb - I told him about Thomas, and he about Yarema. Well, I’ll try again, even though the Bible says about beads, which is not recommended to be thrown before a specific contingent.
          Quote: mogus
          I cited earlier links and quoted from them that in some regions, on payments zp state employees spend up to 80% of all money - is this a fair distribution?

          Well, here I say again and again that money is regularly transferred to the regions and gave a well-known example in the Sverdlovsk region as the local pension fund adopted contrary to the law, accepted PENSION BUDGET money not into the RCC, but into a commercial bank and poured it into an offshore. So if you turn on the brain, then your 70% would leave just like the current ones. Once again I say - the scheme is designed so that NO ONE stupidly steals money without regions. Meadow poured into Vladimir’s chairs for stadiums and that Vladimir didn’t raise taxes, he ratted rats in a construction site and in Sevastopol, and now he’s near Kaliningrad, with a horse factory for the soul. Even Khodorkovsky, holding an office in Moscow and paying taxes, was withdrawing money through regional subsidiaries, not only registered in the regions, but in INTERNAL OFFSHORE ZONES! Elyumzhinov and Aushev are also Muscovites ?! Well, Ishaev, what, in Moscow, sits with money for the development of the Far East? Why did the GDP run into him for undeveloped funds, saying that the money was allocated and nothing was built? Nothing came to the brain?
          Quote: mogus
          Moscow-Petersburg - with the advent of new owners of enterprises with a residence permit in Moscow - you can immediately look for another job - everything will fall apart.

          They just said that they were rooted in the Urals, so for their Ural nugget EBN, that in Bialowieza you don't want to answer plump? Or doesn’t it smell? Ahh, for sure, he was in exile in Moscow, he worked with documents and did not know anything and Muscovites swore his oaths. Now you’ll prepare a Tagil call to Moscow, you’ll prepare a Tagil speech and write it with a small letter, or they are already quite masquerading laughing ? Well, where is it about settling money in the capital because it should be?
          1. avt
            avt 17 June 2013 16: 34 New
            0
            By the way, here, near Moscow, in the guarded village, the apartment of the former ALROSA vice president of subsidized Yakutia was robbed, for example, they took a trifle, phones, trinkets worth 3,6 million rubles, I think the rent is more expensive in the village, or maybe it’s not, a place in ,, New Moscow "DAM created yet not very prestigious. This is the question of poor subsidized regions.
          2. mogus
            mogus 17 June 2013 16: 57 New
            0
            my roots in Siberia. Mother’s sister left for the Urals in her youth.
            Millions are stolen (everywhere, unfortunately), but from here they take in trillions ... a return in the form of handouts.
            I quoted Putin’s words about the current state of affairs.
  7. Aryan
    Aryan 17 June 2013 12: 00 New
    +2
    Where before tigers wed * do we lay highways !!!
  8. Bongo
    Bongo 17 June 2013 12: 23 New
    +4
    Unfortunately, the opposite tendency is now observed: in order to “Save”, railway stations are closed, settlements are liquidated, passenger trains are canceled. Outflow of the population from the Far Eastern region is observed. Which, incidentally, is not surprising: a liter of diesel fuel in the villages along the BAM is worth 40-45rub. The cost of rent in the winter in p. New Urgal 8-10т.р. for 2's room apartment. And this is at an average salary 25-30т.р. in the harshest climatic conditions.
    1. avt
      avt 17 June 2013 15: 46 New
      +2
      Quote: Bongo
      Which, however, is not surprising: a liter of diesel fuel in villages along the BAM costs 40-45 rubles.

      Not the topic of the article, I’m very interested in what happened that diesel fuel began to cost like 98th gasoline, and sometimes more expensive?
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 18 June 2013 05: 30 New
        +3
        Insanity and greed of power.
  9. Minuteman
    Minuteman 17 June 2013 13: 09 New
    -5
    China will say thanks
    1. Oberst_71
      Oberst_71 17 June 2013 13: 55 New
      +1
      Well this is unlikely.
  10. Minuteman
    Minuteman 17 June 2013 13: 11 New
    -4
    In the future, China will say thanks.
  11. Apollo
    Apollo 17 June 2013 13: 57 New
    +7
    Many thanks to the author for the article about BAM. +good

  12. MG42
    MG42 17 June 2013 14: 33 New
    +4
    Dean Reed at BAM. For 0.55 minutes GDP with him in the frame?
    1. kush62
      kush62 17 June 2013 18: 05 New
      +5
      I built BAM in 1979, I was 17 years old and I earned 1200 rubles in 2 months.
      Big money at the time. If you consider that this is my mother’s earnings for 2 years. Dean Reed performed at the Tynda Festival Hill. I remember how we received an advance of 450 rubles and went to Tynda to the festival. And I’m not ashamed of the site’s "patriots", but our detachment from Chelyabinsk was called "Russians" We were located near the village of "Nagorny" Tynda-Berkakit site. Thanks for the movie, I remembered a lot.
      1. MG42
        MG42 17 June 2013 19: 01 New
        0
        Quote: kush62
        Thanks for the movie, I remembered a lot.

        So is there GDP or just a similar person?
        1. kush62
          kush62 17 June 2013 19: 43 New
          +1
          I think just like that. Putin is foreign intelligence. Hardly engaged in security.
      2. avt
        avt 17 June 2013 19: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: kush62
        I built BAM in 1979, I was 17 years old and I earned 1200 rubles in 2 months.
        Big money at the time.

        I don’t remember my last name, I’m sorry, one brigade leader called Kosygin to the government and not only shook hands and said the words, but after hearing and felt that the person was talking, he gave him government license plates so that if anything went directly to him. That's something like that under totalitarianism and stagnation people were treated, moreover, with “simple” not top managers.
  13. fenix57
    fenix57 17 June 2013 14: 34 New
    +1
    "A rocky road is a road that runs in our rear parallel to an existing or proposed front line. In this case, parallel to the existing borders of the USSR. "-And now, according to the borders of Russia with China and Mongolia ... The thing is necessary! BAM is indicated in green. hi
  14. Uhe
    Uhe 17 June 2013 16: 00 New
    +3
    What petrodollars in the 70s ?! T.N. petrodollars occupied an extremely small percentage of the total share of exports to the USSR, not to mention the gross domestic product! It was a means of pressure on the West and attracting doubters to itself than a source of income for the country. Well, you have to sit ass in a puddle.

    By the way, BAM is a vivid example of how to organize jobs quickly and on business. Trepach said that it is urgent to create 25 million jobs. Is it weak to organize the same construction project necessary for the country without theft and in the case? Or is he only able to roll his tongue and spit on the glorious Soviet past?
    1. Gooch
      17 June 2013 16: 15 New
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      Quote: Uhe
      By the way, BAM is a vivid example of how to organize jobs quickly and on business. Trepach said that it is urgent to create 25 million jobs. Is it weak to organize the same construction project necessary for the country without theft and in the case? Or is he only able to roll his tongue and spit on the glorious Soviet past?

      Special thanks to the Germans and Japanese who supplied equipment to the USSR for the needs of BAM, we still have at least henna, tenacious infections, Dad works as an auto mechanic, says he was swollen when he arrived here, he worked on our crane, he says at -50 you start, for 4-5 hours you had to warm the engine with boiled water, every day a barrel of water only left to warm up, and German and Japanese cars started at -50-55 with a half turn, when they transferred to KATO, I was just enchantingly happy in the cab room temperature, overboard -50-60 ho sit in a shirt :) On our technique, such a trick would not have passed)

      Here is what the Soviet press wrote in 1978. “Every day brings us good news from the track of the All-Union shock Komsomol construction site - BAM.
      Among the various equipment at the BAM are powerful dump trucks "Magirus-Deitz." More than nine thousand of these machines made in Germany were acquired in 1975-1976. (According to data from various sources - 9400, 9500 or 9600 copies. - AR.)



      It will not be superfluous to recall that in those same years, the Soviet automobile industry could offer the Bamovites only a biaxial 8-ton MAZ-503A and a tri-axle 12-ton KrAZ-256B for the development of the taiga,
      and the working conditions on these domestic cars were completely incomparable with the Magiruses, which had a large three-seater thermally insulated cabin with a panoramic windshield, adjustable driver's seat and two independent autonomous heating and ventilation systems. A massive wide hood gave the drivers, as they liked to put it, “one more meter of safety”.
      1. Dim Dim
        Dim Dim 17 June 2013 23: 15 New
        +3
        I served in BAMA from 80 to 82 in connection, and therefore I had to travel a lot around his floodplain in the Khabarovsk Territory and the Amur Region. There was enough foreign, especially heavy, equipment. But it was mainly used by civilian builders, by the way, along with the Magiruses, there were a lot of Tatras. But as you know, the bulk of the work was carried out by military builders from the railway troops, but they were not spoiled with imported equipment. The only thing I saw from them was the 40 and 70 ton Caterpillar and Fiat Alice bulldozers. Moreover, an interesting remark about the productivity of civilians and military builders used. Before my eyes, a team of civil workers using an imported drilling rig, an excavator, a mobile concrete unit and Magirus dump trucks, built a bridge over the Yansai River for a year and a half. Which in this place in the summer has a width of 5 meters. They worked on a rotational basis, work a month, rest for a week. And they could easily exchange a carrot from a food ration for vodka, in the ratio of a can to a bottle. Military builders from brigades stationed in Urgal, Alonka, and Fevralsk, also on a rotational basis from field camps, worked on the same sites. So, the ZhDV company, using domestic equipment that was 2 times older than the conscripts who served it, built the same bridge on average for a couple of months. And as a conclusion, the speed of construction does not depend on technology, but on the organization of labor and discipline of performers.
        1. Gooch
          18 June 2013 13: 22 New
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          Quote: DimDim
          So, the ZhDV company, using domestic equipment that was 2 times older than the conscripts who served it, built the same bridge on average for a couple of months. And as a conclusion, the speed of construction does not depend on technology, but on the organization of labor and discipline of performers.

          But this bridge didn’t fall apart a week later? At our APEC summit, too, the Arkhavrovtsy built a highway, in less than a year, but it just washed off into the sea, 30 billion rubles, it just flew into the toilet.
  15. RoTTor
    RoTTor 17 June 2013 16: 44 New
    +6
    In the best times of the Russian Empire and the USSR, there were worthy statesmen who thought on a large scale and saw distant geopolitical threats and prospects. The current ones are based on the principle: hewn and y ... b. Two big differences!
  16. smprofi
    smprofi 17 June 2013 17: 44 New
    +4
    BAM is, first of all, a strategic rocky railway! And precisely for this purpose it was built throughout the XNUMXth century. It is in this that his main purpose is simply to be. In peacetime, I agree, they still can’t find sensible use, but God forbid that in those parts - and it will be BAM that will become the main artery of the Far Eastern war.

    in general ... yes.
    only in the article one point is missing, for a site specializing in military topics, the essential:
    Yes, they built the railway and villages (infrastructure), but most of the effort was invested in the construction of fortified areas in Eastern Siberia. Dad, when he taught at the Academy, he said that somewhere around 1/3 of the money went only to the hardware itself.
    and now these URs ... better not to remember ...
  17. kush62
    kush62 17 June 2013 18: 09 New
    +1
    I recalled two ads in the dining room of Nagorny. “It’s not possible for everyone to live so generously - to give BAM people a souvenir” and “Please don’t poke your fingers and eggs in the salt shaker.”
  18. uzer 13
    uzer 13 17 June 2013 18: 56 New
    0
    BAM, of course, began to be built as a backup railway after a small war with the Chinese. The conflict was settled, but there was no special trust in the great helmsman. Huge crowds of people obsessed with the ideas of Sino-Communist chauvinism and waving quotes from Mao Tse Dong could easily crush frontier posts and not a very large military group. The old railway would be captured by them. The most interesting is that literally 15-20 years before these events, the Chinese were real friends, they are free in the border areas They could visit villages located on the territory of the USSR. I know this because I myself lived there for a while, a kilometer from the border. Nowadays, if the BAM is brought to mind a little and organized transit freight for it, then you can earn good money.
    1. 77bob1973
      77bob1973 18 June 2013 08: 13 New
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      As far as I know, BAM is currently loaded and plans to build a second track, in Russian Railways there is now a problem with mainline diesel locomotives, the production of which remains in Ukraine.
  19. DZ_98_B
    DZ_98_B 17 June 2013 19: 43 New
    +1
    In the 70s, they did not even dream of a small and victorious war with China. The command knew that defeating China would be very difficult. BAM was created for the defense of Siberia and the East. During the construction of BAM, the latest technology was used. I wonder how they found this Magirus? The equipment was not abandoned. treated her very carefully ... she still serves !!!! Of course, there were no special forces, these are bikes. there were noise-canceling headphones. Yes, I remembered that in KUSTANA they began to build a motor plant for the production of MAGIRUS engines. Our some engines start well in cold -45. I am about YaMZuhi, especially 238.
  20. mithridate
    mithridate 20 June 2013 19: 56 New
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    it was a glorious time