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The defense ministry asks the government to allow the weak-sighted and hard-of-hearing to be drafted into the army

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The defense ministry asks the government to allow the weak-sighted and hard-of-hearing to be drafted into the army

The Russian government has been invited to consider a new provision on military medical expertise on the elimination of young people entering the army. If the standard is adopted, it will become even more difficult to “deviate” from the army with the help of some diagnoses.


This provision implies the mitigation of individual requirements for hearing and vision impairment that can be corrected. Due to this situation, with the highly changed nature of the service lately, many "work differently from 10 years ago." "For example, modern methods of correction of visual impairment to minus two allow the soldier to work at a computer, to do the work of a programmer," ITAR-TASS quoted the chief physician of the Russian Defense Ministry, Major-General Alexander Fisun.

At the same time, the Ministry of Defense is seeking to tighten the requirements for both recruits and contract servicemen for mental disorders and heart diseases. “This rigidity is due to the fact that there are no deaths from similar relapses and other incidents in the army,” the official said. The amendments are designed to protect the army not only from sudden deaths, but also from suicides and other unforeseen situations.

Now the provision of military medical expertise is pending in the government. The proposals were made not only by the Ministry of Defense, but also by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other security agencies. Apply the position will be in those security agencies, where temporary service is provided. Fisun noted that the project went through almost all the agreements with the security agencies and the Ministry of Health, now "the last discussions are underway." “It will take a month, I think, and the situation will be introduced somewhere in the fall,” RIA quotes the physician.News".

In which case medical companies will come to the aid of the soldiers.

By 2014, fifty medical companies will be created, capable of providing both first aid and special care. “These units are a new structure in our Armed Forces, which presupposes new standards of medical support for military personnel. We see prospects for the development of individual medical service teams. They are equipped with modern equipment and can be transferred to a given battle area in the shortest possible time,” said Fisun.

Medical companies will be created within the framework of the concept of special mobile teams. 22 such brigades will be located on the territory of the base military hospitals, where there are helicopter and aircraft platforms (more than two dozen helicopter platforms have been created at the Defense Ministry hospitals). The air transport will be equipped with special stretcher modules and other medical equipment. Soon, the field dental complex, which was presented in Moscow at the international exhibition "Integrated Safety-2013", will arrive in the army in May.
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  1. Knowing
    Knowing 14 June 2013 10: 45 New
    +1
    And if vision is minus 4-5 ... Will they be sent to the army?
    1. experienced
      experienced 14 June 2013 10: 51 New
      11
      Is it strange now that Russia is not at war in order to call for limited fit? Is it really so bad that they can't get a call from normal guys?
      The commander will need to put next to the sign language interpreter wassat
      Well and how without a joke:
      Commission at the military registration and enlistment office, at the ophthalmologist. The first draftee. Doctor:
      - Do you see the top line?
      - I see!
      - And lower?
      - I see!
      - Lower?
      - No!
      - The snipers! Following!! Do you see the top line?
      - I see!
      - And lower?
      - I do not see!
      - To the morphlot! Following! Do you see the top line?
      - No, doctor, I don’t see!
      - Tricky, you’ll go to intelligence!
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 14 June 2013 10: 55 New
        12
        The defense ministry asks the government to allow the weak-sighted and hard-of-hearing to be drafted into the army

        "Mowers" must be identified and encouraged, the children of the so-called "elite", those who buy certificates, and those for a longer service life, and not people with disabilities.
        1. Hon
          Hon 14 June 2013 11: 18 New
          +8
          Quote: GreatRussia
          "Mowers" must be identified and encouraged, the children of the so-called "elite", those who buy certificates, and those for a longer service life, and not people with disabilities.

          Do they really need them in the army? That is, the army should consist of those who hate it, do not want to serve and wants to quickly dump, who were driven into the army by force? It’s wonderful, but at the very first kipes such warriors will join the ranks of prisoners of war and deserters !!!
          1. GreatRussia
            GreatRussia 14 June 2013 11: 22 New
            0
            Quote: Hon
            Do they really need them in the army? That is, the army should consist of those who hate it, do not want to serve and wants to quickly dump, who were driven into the army by force? It’s wonderful, but at the very first kipes such warriors will join the ranks of prisoners of war and deserters !!!

            Tell me, what percentage of youth now wants to go to serve "urgent"?
            1. Hon
              Hon 14 June 2013 12: 28 New
              +4
              It’s high in the regions, it’s impossible to say what exactly they want but do not run away from the military registration and enlistment office.
              1. GreatRussia
                GreatRussia 14 June 2013 12: 35 New
                0
                Quote: Hon
                It’s high in the regions, it’s impossible to say what exactly they want but do not run away from the military registration and enlistment office.

                Urgent? Of course I wanted to believe in it, but I believe that you wishful thinking. )))
                1. Hon
                  Hon 14 June 2013 12: 43 New
                  +1
                  For the whole country I will not say. but when he passed a medical examination in the Saratov region, he was surprised by the contingent. The guys are strong athletes, maybe they just ended up at such a moment. In our area, for several years in a row, busting, the call has to end earlier. My classmate only volunteered the second time, at first he sat for three days at the station, was sent home, and was taken to the next call.
                  1. GreatRussia
                    GreatRussia 14 June 2013 12: 57 New
                    0
                    Quote: Hon
                    For the whole country I will not say. but when was the medical examination in the Saratov region

                    Well, thank God that in the Saratov region this is all good!

                    The Cabinet of Ministers approved a bill allowing the recruitment of former foreigners who have received Russian citizenship and have already served in their homeland, RBC daily reports February 8.

                    The military took this step due to shortage urgentQ: a significant part of Russians are not eager to go to the army, many conscripts receive deferrals, and the demographic situation in the country is unimportant, according to the Ministry of Defense.


                    Read more: http://www.km.ru/v-rossii/2013/02/08/pravitelstvo-rossii/703551-minoborony-zabre
                    et-v-armiyu-byvshikh-inostrantsev
          2. kot968
            kot968 19 June 2013 12: 20 New
            0
            not really. It all depends on those who will deal with them there and on their real position in society (if the state can protect the commanders from the "elite" and raise their status to the same height as it was in tsarist Russia)
            If you served in the army, you should understand what I am talking about.
        2. elmi
          elmi 14 June 2013 17: 12 New
          +1
          It is necessary to issue passports after military service, mowers "passport 2 grade" without the right to vote, a minimum pension. Increase service life from 1 years to 2 years as before.
      2. cartridge
        cartridge 14 June 2013 12: 41 New
        +5
        VASILY ZAITSEV

        During the Battle of Stalingrad between November 10 and December 17, 1942, Vasily Zaitsev destroyed 225 soldiers and officers of the German army and their allies, including 11 snipers, i.e. won 11 sniper duels.
        He participated in the liberation of Donbass, in the battle for the Dnieper, fought near Odessa and the Dniester.
        He was seriously wounded several times, including completely losing his sight, was treated and fought again.
        After the war, he graduated, worked as a director, director of an engineering plant, director of a sewing factory "Ukraine", and headed a technical school for light industry.
        He participated in the army tests of the SVD rifle. During the war he wrote two sniper textbooks, after the war - a book of memoirs. He lived to be 76 years old, died in 1991 and was buried on the Mamaev Kurgan in Volgograd.
        And he came to Stalingrad in 1942, after he wrote five reports in a row about his transfer from the post of head of the financial unit in the Pacific Fleet (see photo - a plaque on a belt with an anchor in memory of the naval service), in Transfiguration Bay on advanced. He was 27 years old.

        Now it’s even impossible to imagine - how many people are sure that the Soviet people were hiding from the army when they were taken to the front - they immediately fled to the forest, and they went into battle only because a detachment with machine guns was standing behind them. Yes, no one knew how to shoot, and there were no rifles.
      3. Papakiko
        Papakiko 14 June 2013 13: 32 New
        -1
        Quote: seasoned
        is not at war to

        So soon the "dead souls" will begin to call, N.V. Gogol is resting.
        Office of Kozhegedovich ZHZHZHZHET.
      4. Explore
        Explore 14 June 2013 13: 44 New
        -1
        Yes, that’s exactly about us. As he said, we had such "scouts" ...
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 14 June 2013 11: 21 New
      +3
      Wait. They will come for you ...
    3. TROG
      TROG 14 June 2013 12: 17 New
      +3
      My brother was -5, sent to the Carpet as a signalman
      commissored after 2 months from = for legs of 41 sizes, which were in footcloths and berets 44.
      There were 2 operations on the feet (my brother had flat feet, which even a blind person would detect)
      Insurance money, so in the end he didn’t receive it.
      1. Papakiko
        Papakiko 14 June 2013 13: 40 New
        0
        Quote: TROG
        Insurance money, so in the end he didn’t receive it.

        Judge, go through all instances, up to the European Court of Human Rights http://www.espch.ru/

        It is precisely because of such possible consequences for the health of RECRUITS that it is necessary to switch to a 100% Contract Army.
    4. Explore
      Explore 14 June 2013 13: 42 New
      0
      We have one in Intelligence battalion with a vision of -3,5 D (minus 3,5 diopter). Put on the post of intelligence observer. And what? In which case he was put binoculars in the state. laughing laughing
      So ask for intelligence or a sniper. wink
  2. Ruslan Bear
    Ruslan Bear 14 June 2013 10: 48 New
    0
    Quote: Knowing
    And if vision is minus 4-5 ... Will they be sent to the army?

    Yes laughing
  3. Day 11
    Day 11 14 June 2013 10: 48 New
    +2
    I’m not going to distort anyone!
  4. Day 11
    Day 11 14 June 2013 10: 57 New
    0
    Definitely in the army!
  5. Yeraz
    Yeraz 14 June 2013 11: 05 New
    +5
    Stunned. Caucasian people cannot be called to fear, healthy people who run from the agenda cannot be caught and they found a solution in calling such a contingent ???
  6. pinecone
    pinecone 14 June 2013 11: 07 New
    +1
    Have come.
  7. magadanets
    magadanets 14 June 2013 11: 13 New
    +1
    Blind and deaf ... In snipers and acoustics, call them laughing
    In order not to mow, it is necessary to take doctors for the back seat, that they did not make fake diagnoses.
  8. pensioner
    pensioner 14 June 2013 11: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: magadanets
    Blind and deaf ... In snipers and acoustics, call them


    If on the contrary, it should work out quite well.
    1. Uruska
      Uruska 14 June 2013 12: 05 New
      +3
      Let them serve. After all, we mean not the deaf and the blind, but a little hard of hearing and slightly blind ones ...
  9. Tao
    Tao 14 June 2013 11: 48 New
    +1
    And legless pilots! And the armless ... in a special company to gnaw throats. And the dumb ones are for reconnaissance!
    1. TROG
      TROG 14 June 2013 12: 29 New
      -1
      Not so, a little bit without legs and a little armless)))
  10. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 14 June 2013 12: 03 New
    +2
    M-daaaaa .... And to the children of officials, starting from the heads of rural administrations, hands are visible short. Yes, go for a little nonsense at parties, where the children of the "elite" spend money on folders, you can catch more than one division ...
    1. Hon
      Hon 14 June 2013 12: 36 New
      0
      Quote: sigizmund472
      Yes, go for a little nonsense at parties where the children of the "elite" spend money squad money

      There you can find the sons of military commissars))) Only to hell with us the army in which there will be such soldiers?
  11. treskoed
    treskoed 14 June 2013 12: 11 New
    0
    And officers - the age limit of 95 years!
  12. bairat
    bairat 14 June 2013 12: 20 New
    +1
    The current employees of the military commissariats to eliminate as a class. Send to the taiga with families without the right of correspondence, so that in no case would they be again taken to this service. Today, even a hopelessly sick person will not achieve exemption from military service: documents will be lost, constant calls to the military enlistment office for all sorts of trifles will not allow him to work or study. In short, all this is a fat hint that you can "solve" the problem in another way. At the same time, healthy guys who are ready to serve are not taken, but are harassed and chased by such poor fellows.
    1. treskoed
      treskoed 14 June 2013 13: 22 New
      +1
      And all the military in the military commissariats even under Serdyukov eliminated!
  13. Pimply
    Pimply 14 June 2013 12: 27 New
    +3
    There is a graduation in medical profiles in Tsahal. A specific profile for certain professions. If desired, even a wheelchair user can get into the army and successfully fulfill his duty. The army does not consist of only infantry. Especially modern.
    1. magadanets
      magadanets 14 June 2013 12: 36 New
      0
      Do not compare Russia and little Israel
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 14 June 2013 21: 18 New
        0
        Why not compare?
    2. magadanets
      magadanets 14 June 2013 12: 41 New
      -1
      If we really have children to draw rich aces, then the whole Front will be typed. Then there will be no one to spend money in clubs for daddy
      1. Hon
        Hon 14 June 2013 12: 45 New
        -1
        Quote: magadanets
        If we really have children to draw rich aces, then the whole Front will be typed. Then there will be no one to spend money in clubs for daddy

        They don’t care, they’ll just go to London to hang out.
  14. TROG
    TROG 14 June 2013 12: 33 New
    0
    Quote: Pimply
    There is a graduation in medical profiles in Tsahal. A specific profile for certain professions. If desired, even a wheelchair user can get into the army and successfully fulfill his duty. The army does not consist of only infantry. Especially modern.

    But probably the conditions are made for them so that they can serve? And with us?
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  16. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 14 June 2013 13: 15 New
    0
    If it goes at such a pace, then the medical companies will not cope. You will need honey. shelves and medical divisions!
  17. Hey
    Hey 14 June 2013 13: 22 New
    +4
    I myself am so, trochs are blind, so what? He served God, and did not serve poorly. 26 calendar behind. Yes, he served in communication. And there, especially, there was no need for vision. I even tried to shoot with a machine gun not bad, not a sniper, of course, but I did it well, even in a gas mask. So let them call, there will be someone a chance in life to go out in people.
  18. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 14 June 2013 13: 23 New
    +4
    For some reason I remembered an old joke:
    Medical board. Inspection of the eye of the group of tankers of the GSVG:

    - What is the letter? Right.
    - And this? Right !
    - Well, this one? Right, just amazing !!!
    - I’m lost to suggest you name this letter ... That's right, but it's impossible !!!
    - Well, what is the smallest letter you see?
    - Uhh ... There are no small letters, comrade surgeon, there is only a blurry inscription below: "Printed at the Goznak factory, circulation of 5000 copies." For some reason, there is no point at the end of the sentence.

    Guys, no offense, just a joke, nostalgia, sir ...
    wink
  19. individual
    individual 14 June 2013 14: 19 New
    +1
    Must straighten the brains runners from the army and the parents of those children who buy certificates flat-eyes and curvature of the scrotum. am
  20. Tao
    Tao 14 June 2013 15: 52 New
    -1
    Quote: treskoed
    M-daaaaa .... And to the children of officials, starting from the heads of rural administrations, hands are visible short. Yes, go for a little nonsense at parties, where the children of the "elite" spend money on folders, you can catch more than one division ...

    Immediately put 1000 - do not trifle! :) And finally, bring mummies with you .. the enemy will burst with laughter .. However, to us, what difference does it make from what the enemies die? :)
  21. Vened
    Vened 14 June 2013 17: 05 New
    -1
    Unfortunately, the modern draft army does not teach how to fight, conscripts are needed for chores, with the exception of the elite units into which those who themselves want to serve are torn. It is unlikely that any of the readers want to work for a year simply for food, without receiving any salary or any significant benefits in later life.
  22. pensioner
    pensioner 14 June 2013 19: 17 New
    -1
    My vision at the university was somewhere -5. From AK on standing targets somehow got. On getting up (or whatever it was right) I didn’t hit it, I never saw it at all. But then how I shot from PMa! Perfectly! If it were really necessary, then I would have gotten where I need to ... / And if my vision is -3, I don’t see any problems at all. If only arms and legs were. And the extra noise is always distracting ...
    1. Vened
      Vened 14 June 2013 19: 55 New
      -1
      didn’t try to shoot with glasses?
  23. pensioner
    pensioner 14 June 2013 20: 34 New
    0
    Glasses for permanent wear 1in1 can not be worn. Otherwise it will be worse. Accordingly, he wore somewhere minus 3,5. And somehow I had no idea to take a couple of different ones to the training ground. If your eyesight is excellent, then try to walk at least minus 0,75 a day. without taking off. Understand bespectacles.
    1. Vened
      Vened 14 June 2013 20: 52 New
      -1
      I have minus 1, I live without glasses and without lenses, my eyesight does not deteriorate, I am oriented normally, I have been used to it for a long time. I take glasses only if you need sharp vision, for example in a car.