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Who and what are they proud of in modern Russia (based on sociological surveys)?

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12 June, the country once again celebrated the holiday, which has recently become known as the Day of Russia. From the title, as you know, the word “independence” disappeared, since it clearly gave rise to heated debates: independence from whom - from the former fraternal republics or from common sense in general? ..


Whatever it was, but the new name sounds much more neutral and much less defiant. However, the attitude of Russians to this holiday, which since 1991 of the year is still a non-working day, is still far from clear. The reason for such ambiguity, most likely, lies at all not even in the fact that some are more patriotic, others less so; the reason for the ambiguity lies in the date that is associated with the holiday itself. And this date, no matter how cool, but brings to the position of the collapse of the Soviet Union, which (collapse) itself became a real shock for the majority of the inhabitants of our country. Of course, time has healed many wounds, but not every modern citizen of Russia can afford to forgive the collapse of a huge state for the cause of this collapse.

And if the date of June 12 leads to reflections on the fate of the USSR, then willy-nilly people begin to compare what happened to our country before gaining so-called independence and what became of the country after. In order for these comparisons to take on, let's say, carnal outlines, on the eve of the holiday, VTsIOM conducted a sociological survey that bore the saying “Day of Russia: with which and whom can we be proud of?” It was about new achievements and new heroes (“heroes” - in a wide sense of the word) country.

We present some of the results of this survey.

An event that causes a sense of pride among Russians was the acquisition of the right to host the Olympics in Sochi (7% of respondents). In 6%, prizes of Russian athletes (including Paralympians) cause a sense of pride. Also 6% are proud of the rise of the Russian economy and the rise in the standard of living of Russians. Judging by the results of the survey, 3% of Russians are proud of the revival of the army. It is noteworthy that almost 42% of respondents said that there are no recent events to be proud of in Russia.

There was another question in the VTsIOM survey. He was concerned with the presence or absence in modern Russia of individuals to be proud of. Vladimir Putin scored 9% of votes, Sergey Shoigu 6%, and 6% of respondents called veterans of the Great Patriotic War. “There are none,” said 24% of respondents, and 33% found it difficult to answer at all.

Of course, one can be ironic for a long time over the fact that Putin along with Shoigu are proud of 2,5 times more Russians than veterans of the Great Patriotic War, but one should understand that a sociological survey on the street is a specific thing. If they unexpectedly approached people with a dictaphone or a notepad and asked a question, what is called, on the forehead, then not everyone will quickly orient themselves. Here the banal information promotion of a person comes out on top. That is why people, whom by definition the whole country should be proud of (it is, of course, about veterans), have remained only with 6%, although this does not detract from their role in the life of the country.

But if each of us puts himself in the place of those polled by VTsIOM, then we can call that one of the events and which of the people who are alive today are causing pride. Flights to space for us had time to turn into a routine, and, to be honest, not every space launch is successful. Unfortunately, there are no new Gagarins, just like the new Korolevs, the new Valerians of the Kharlamovs, the Vladimirov Vysotskys or the Mikhail Sholokhovs. Although there are new cosmonauts, and engineers, and hockey players, and actors, and writers. But in order to declare one of them to be the real pride of Russia, for some reason, there is not enough, perhaps, an emotional surge. There are seemingly real boulders: Nobel Prize winner Zhores Alferov, human legend Mikhail Kalashnikov, the greatest actor Alexei Batalov and many others. Only these people are completely geniuses brought up by a great era. All of them - the great seed of a great country called the USSR. And what about the modern characters? You want to give the name of a good hockey player, but then you remember that he has not lived 5 for years, and in Russia. If for someone it is a reason for pride, then there is nothing to say. I would like to call the pride of the modern writer, but with options, too, everything is not in order ... You can read, but to be proud - this is unlikely ...

So, it turns out, in the country of heroic personalities, there is no one at all? Yes, there are such people, only today it has become unacceptable to talk about them. We are accustomed to show business, and even in politics. Serve, you know, the show and that's it! But can one not be proud of a man who saves thousands of lives in operating theaters every year, unless one can admire a professional who literally every day brings burning people alive and unharmed to panic-ridden people, isn’t there any reason to be proud of those who regularly stand up for combat duty and stand on guard the security of the country. Yes, of course, these people are not trying to bring their work to the level of the show, they just do it, and do it professionally - without grumbling and, excuse me, long green snot. But in the current consumption system, pride in such people is a real moveton. Like, something else - to be proud of the farmers or metallurgists - because if anything, you can bring bread with steel through China. And the fact that our society (that is, you and I) became sick with consumer obsession is a fact. This is our gift for “independence” - a gift from democratic “partners”.

We are considering a poll organized by VTsIOM, and in fact there is also a last-year poll from Levada Center. To trust him or not is the business of each reader individually, but it is impossible not to pay attention to him. According to the results of that survey (conducted on the eve of the Day of Russia 2012), only three-quarters of Russians are proud that they are citizens of the Russian Federation ... And here we are talking about pride in professional doctors or firefighters ... It turns out that every fourth in our country doesn’t perceive his citizenship except as a heavy cross. Why? Because the psychology of consumption dictates its own rules: the employee has a car that is more expensive, the McDonald’s classmate is closer, the neighbor’s hair dye is more stable, and the neighbor works from above in Germany, and there you can see the gay parade - that’s lucky lucky ...

And after all, the very fact of pride in living in Russia is subject to obstruction by adherents of total consumption. That is why we began to treat any matter for pride with caution - the disease is contagious. Serve, you know, the show, otherwise - no, no ...
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  1. Blad_21617
    Blad_21617 14 June 2013 07: 55 New
    +6
    if such a question was asked about 30 years ago, the answer would be one ...
    1. Ataman
      Ataman 14 June 2013 09: 45 New
      10
      Flying into space for us managed to turn into everyday life, and, to be honest, not every space launch is successful. Unfortunately, there are no new Gagarins, as well as new Korolevs

      And the next media report can be considered a failure?
      Two American space companies are quarreling over the Russian RD-180 engine manufactured by NPO Energomash, designed for middle-class launch vehicles. US antitrust services suspect the United Launch Alliance of not giving its rival Orbital Sciences the opportunity to buy these engines for its Antares rocket.
      1. Veter
        Veter 14 June 2013 13: 46 New
        11
        Quote: Ataman
        quarrel over Russian RD-180 engine

        So this engine is the direct heir to the Soviet RD-170. Like it or not, and it is a product of Soviet design thought. Sorry ... but so far only.
        1. Canep
          Canep 14 June 2013 14: 30 New
          0
          One should be proud of this engine, since the amers bite over it among themselves. Space, the nuclear industry, weapons, energy, science are what Russia has traditionally been a trendsetter in.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 14 June 2013 19: 31 New
            +4
            Quote: Canep
            You need to be proud of this engine,

            He should not be proud - he must be applied!
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 14 June 2013 20: 41 New
              +1
              Quote: APASUS
              He should not be proud - he must be applied!

              This is sophistry, one does not interfere with the other.
  2. Renat
    Renat 14 June 2013 08: 15 New
    22
    And what is this 6% proud of the economic recovery in the country? Are not those who rule the economy?
    1. Alekseir162
      Alekseir162 14 June 2013 09: 43 New
      +8
      They themselves are, for their well-being is growing steadily.
    2. kavkaz8888
      kavkaz8888 14 June 2013 22: 52 New
      +2
      6% are oligarchs, theirs wives and servants
  3. Egoza
    Egoza 14 June 2013 08: 33 New
    16
    I think that the question in the survey was not posed quite correctly. People were asked about who to be proud of in modern Russia, I understand that? they answered, thinking about the last 20 years, who during this time became a hero. And WWII veterans are the heroes of the Soviet period, because such a small percentage turned out.
  4. George
    George 14 June 2013 08: 35 New
    17
    So, it turns out that in the country of heroic personalities there are no more at all? Yes, there are such people, only today it has not become customary to talk about them. We were accustomed to show business, and even in politics.

    Gold words.
    Our land is glorious as a hero, only in the first place in the media are all kinds of jesters, homosexuals and other dandruff.
    But I know who to be proud of,
    and I will teach my children.
    1. redwar6
      redwar6 14 June 2013 12: 34 New
      +5
      I join and subscribe to the words.
  5. uizik
    uizik 14 June 2013 08: 53 New
    +6
    The same situation in the former owls. republics of the USSR!
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 14 June 2013 10: 32 New
      +3
      Quote: uizik
      The same situation in the former owls. republics of the USSR!

      Do not say that Azerbaijan has ideological supporters of Heydar Aliyev, but most would answer Mubariz Ibrahimov and Chingiz Mustafayev.
  6. Stas
    Stas 14 June 2013 08: 56 New
    30
    So let's weigh the pros and cons of each for ourselves.
    Has our medicine become better and more accessible for everyone?
    Maybe education was raised to a level better than during the USSR (then we were proud of it, but now it is at the level of American dibiloids)?
    Probably our industry (mechanical engineering, shipbuilding, electronics) is ahead of the rest? Well, I don’t think, from China almost everything is dragging.
    Maybe our government defends the interests of Russian and indigenous peoples? I doubt very much ... (They import Asians into millions, trample their people in the mud, lose their jobs. Since December 2012, only more than 500000 private entrepreneurs have been closed, and these are people who have not begged the government for anything, earned a penny for themselves).
    Perhaps the number of officials of all stripes in 20 years has become less? I would very much like it, but only the bureaucratic army is growing like a cancerous tumor (there are much more of them now than there were during the USSR).
    There is a systematic fooling of people through television and the media, following the example of the Americans. A society of consumers of hamburgers and beet-cola is being created. Thinking people are becoming less and less ... The people are mired in the bustle, someone in the bargain for millions, and someone in search of cents to exist corny. Hence the misunderstanding: what to be proud of? Treasury bills?
    Thanks to Mr. Putin and his bureaucrats for our happy present.
    1. redwar6
      redwar6 14 June 2013 12: 37 New
      +5
      I think it’s not Putin who should be thanked. Agree, if not for Putin, then it’s not a fact that we would still be a country. We should thank Michael Gorbi and fight Yeltsin. For all.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 14 June 2013 14: 10 New
        -1
        Quote: redwar6
        I think it’s not Putin who should be thanked. Agree, if not for Putin, then it’s not a fact that we would still be a country. We should thank Michael Gorbi and fight Yeltsin. For all.

        Stas has a planned dump of shit on the fan, you can argue on all counts, but the arguments of the mind are powerless against fanatics.
        1. redwar6
          redwar6 14 June 2013 14: 17 New
          +1
          Here thanks, respected. I am with you kindly, and you called me crazy.
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 14 June 2013 14: 32 New
            +2
            Quote: redwar6
            Here thanks, respected. I am with you kindly, and you called me crazy.

            I'm not talking about you, but about the user Stas, about his message:

            Quote: Stas
            So let's weigh the pros and cons of each for ourselves.
            Has our medicine become better and more accessible for everyone?
            Maybe education was raised to a level better than during the USSR (then we were proud of it, but now it is at the level of American dibiloids)?
            Probably our industry (mechanical engineering, shipbuilding, electronics) is ahead of the rest? Well, I don’t think, from China almost everything is dragging.
            Maybe our government defends the interests of Russian and indigenous peoples? I doubt very much ... (They import Asians into millions, trample their people in the mud, lose their jobs. Since December 2012, only more than 500000 private entrepreneurs have been closed, and these are people who have not begged the government for anything, earned a penny for themselves).
            Perhaps the number of officials of all stripes in 20 years has become less? I would very much like it, but only the bureaucratic army is growing like a cancerous tumor (there are much more of them now than there were during the USSR).
            There is a systematic fooling of people through television and the media, following the example of the Americans. A society of consumers of hamburgers and beet-cola is being created. Thinking people are becoming less and less ... The people are mired in the bustle, someone in the bargain for millions, and someone in search of cents to exist corny. Hence the misunderstanding: what to be proud of? Treasury bills?
            Thanks to Mr. Putin and his bureaucrats for our happy present.
            1. redwar6
              redwar6 14 June 2013 14: 47 New
              0
              Ugh, I'm sorry. I'm stupid.
        2. kavkaz8888
          kavkaz8888 14 June 2013 23: 02 New
          +2
          So object, only without drooling snot, but in fact. And then it turns out in Balabol.
    2. Rider
      Rider 14 June 2013 13: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Stas
      Thanks to Mr. Putin and his bureaucrats for our happy present.


      Well, you enough.
      not being a fan of Kaa, I nevertheless put him in the merits of a reversal of financial flows inside the country, strengthening of power. and a decrease in separatism.

      Well, about:
      Quote: Stas
      Since December 2012 only IP more than 500000 have been closed

      it has already been said (on the site) that for the most part these are one-day firms. and their closure is associated with the crisis in the eurozone, and the Cyprus hopstop.
      1. Stas
        Stas 14 June 2013 14: 05 New
        +4
        Do not carry nonsense, especially that which you do not know !!!! Write some nonsense: "for the most part these are one-day firms. And their closure is connected with the crisis in the eurozone and the Cyprus hopstop."
        IP-employees were closed due to a 200% increase in pension payments !!! In Novosibirsk, for example, they paid 17 tr, and now you have to pay 36-38 tr At the same time, pensions were increased 1,8 - 3,6 times. My wife, the IP-shnik, is also going to close - because not profitable to work. And you attributed some kind of Cyprus here. Do not know, it’s better to be silent !!!
        1. Rider
          Rider 14 June 2013 15: 17 New
          -2
          Quote: Stas
          Do not know, it’s better to be silent !!!


          and you from the experience of your wife delivered a verdict?
          1. cdrt
            cdrt 14 June 2013 16: 19 New
            +2
            Stas is based on the experience of the wife (i.e. practical experience), and you based on what?
          2. kavkaz8888
            kavkaz8888 14 June 2013 23: 08 New
            +1
            It is tested on itself. And cheap malice is not respect
      2. cdrt
        cdrt 14 June 2013 16: 17 New
        +3
        1. A reversal of financial flows inside the country - what are you talking about? It seems that the difference between the export of capital and investment is only growing ...
        2. Strengthening power - yes. Plus - integrity, minus - crazy corruption.
        3. Reduced separatism - probably also yes.
        4. About the fact that bankrupt IPs are one-day companies, as if I would like to see the facts wink , and then there is NO link between the increase in contribution rates for salaries for private entrepreneurs and one-day firms ...
        1. Rider
          Rider 14 June 2013 16: 38 New
          -2
          1 increase in taxation from resource enterprises and their return under state control.

          2 on the plus, everything is clear. but with a minus, what will be your decision?
          take as much as you want, and the election of governors when bandits and the bureaucrats associated with them come to power?
          Well, on corruption, here is the news site "Eye of the Planet"
          there is a heading - news of repressions.
          read at your leisure.

          3 ... well, great.

          4 I’m wondering what kind of individual entrepreneur fell apart from the increase in retirement income?
          it turns out that the company’s capyala was with gulkin ... uh, nose.
          or do you think that it is not necessary to pay pensions?
          But what about the social protection of the population?
          1. Stas
            Stas 14 June 2013 18: 17 New
            +5
            Rider
            4 I’m wondering what kind of individual entrepreneur fell apart from the increase in retirement income?
            it turns out that the company’s capyala was with gulkin ... uh, nose.
            or do you think that it is not necessary to pay pensions?
            But what about the social protection of the population?

            I will explain to you popularly:
            The main share of individual entrepreneurs (IE) is firms (1-2 people in which the owner works for themselves) with a profit of 25-60 thousand rubles per month. I don’t take into account IP type hypermarkets "Auchan" - this is also an IP way. So, the main share of IE is hairdressing, shoe, laundry, catering, etc. And if I worked on a net, paid taxes of 8 tr per month, pension contributions of 36 tr per year (and then I can’t wait for a pension, I can’t survive), then I am left with miserable crumbs. And if for you 15-30 thousand per month. not money, then for many people, especially pensioners (for whom this is the only additional income to retirement to live) - this is money. And the state in raising the pension bribes deprived these people of their last earnings, forcing them to close. If you still do not understand that you froze stupidity, then I wash my hands. Then we have nothing to talk about.
            1. Rider
              Rider 14 June 2013 20: 07 New
              -1
              Quote: Stas
              If you still do not understand that you froze stupidity, then I wash my hands. Then we have nothing to talk about.


              Well, if you think that it is pensioners who make up the lion's share of the enterprises you have listed, then I wash my hands.

              as for NON-Pensioners, if you think that they will not need pensions, then it's not me who is to blame for stupidity.
              1. Blackgrifon
                Blackgrifon 14 June 2013 20: 49 New
                +1
                Quote: Rider
                as for NON-Pensioners, if you think that they will not need pensions, then it's not me who is to blame for stupidity.


                Do you believe that these pensions will be?
                1. Rider
                  Rider 14 June 2013 21: 41 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Blackgrifon
                  Do you believe that these pensions will be?


                  and you ?

                  and then what is the alternative?
                  work until you hoarse?

                  but the point is not only (and not so much) in pensions, but that the stasik accused Kaa of adopting this damned law.
                  But you have to look at which party (or faction) proposed it, who voted for it, and against.

                  I say again that I am not a fan of the darkest, but here in the State Duma there is such a beautiful party as the LDPR.
                  she enthusiastically votes for almost all laws adopted by the State Duma, and she considers herself an opposition.
                  there was still such a minister of finance, Kudrin, so he stood for liberalization and the de-stateization of the economy (privatize everything)
                  he was fired, but his "like-minded people" remained.

                  in defense of Pu. we can say that he strongly opposed the increase of the INCOME tax, since he rightly assumed that the tax-payers would go into the shadows.
                  But the same thing happened with pensions.
                  now employers underestimate the amount of wages in order to pay less taxes.

                  but with Stasik, Kaa is to blame.
                  he can’t even think that the country is ruled by the CLANS.
                  1. Rider
                    Rider 14 June 2013 21: 57 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Rider
                    now employers underestimate salary


                    reference

                    should read:now employers underestimate the size of salaries in the reports
      3. kavkaz8888
        kavkaz8888 14 June 2013 23: 07 New
        +1
        No buddy. These are mostly small people who are not able to pay the new tax. POLLEYA one-day trips in Cyprus? Are you a sane boyar?
  7. Yozhas
    Yozhas 14 June 2013 08: 56 New
    11
    Proud of ordinary people who daily do their job for their country, love their country !!!
  8. omsbon
    omsbon 14 June 2013 09: 14 New
    +8
    We need focused work in the media, aimed at educating the youth audience in a patriotic spirit, restoring moral and ethical standards. Ugly shows such as "house-2", "heroes" like Bori Moiseyev should be removed from the screens.
    The main role in education, assigned to the family, lies entirely with us!
  9. Snoop
    Snoop 14 June 2013 09: 31 New
    +9
    What to be proud of? There is no breakthrough anywhere. The passionary period in the history of Russia is over. In the USSR, subpassionaries came to power, the time of the layman, the main material wealth. So the USSR fell apart. And after all, for the most part no one stood up for defense with weapons. Yes, a little fucked up in Moscow and all. The whole country was waiting for someone.
  10. Ivan79
    Ivan79 14 June 2013 09: 59 New
    27
    I think everyone will understand.
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 14 June 2013 12: 41 New
      +6
      agrees with current achievements only strive
  11. bashmak
    bashmak 14 June 2013 10: 38 New
    +9
    USSR IS NOT RUSSIA! MOSCOW IS NOT RUSSIA! RYAZAN, TAMBOV, NOVOSIBIRSK, KHABAROVSK, CHUVASHI, MORDOVA, KHAKAS, URAL-THAT RUSSIA !!!
    1. Ar4ii
      Ar4ii 14 June 2013 21: 07 New
      +3
      Moscow is the head, and if it picks its nose it plays on smartphones and grinds with nonsense ... before such people were called fools.
      1. Genady1976
        Genady1976 14 June 2013 21: 10 New
        +1
        Quote: Ar4ii
        Moscow is the head, and if it picks its nose it plays on smartphones and grinds with nonsense ... before such people were called fools.

        good good good
  12. deman73
    deman73 14 June 2013 11: 01 New
    10
    I am personally proud that I was born and lived in a great country - the USSR
  13. sergo0000
    sergo0000 14 June 2013 11: 20 New
    +1
    Great article! I applaud while standing! hi This is an addition to congratulations on the Day of Russia!
  14. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 14 June 2013 11: 20 New
    +5
    from the Don.
    A poll is a poll, it’s not so simple! Many will be proud of their families, their children — and that's good! The main thing is not to be proud of all kinds of moral monsters!
  15. spirit
    spirit 14 June 2013 12: 10 New
    +8
    Yeah!
    Previously, we fought with the whole world (Khanate, fascism, Napoleon) and WIN!
    Expanding the boundaries! FROM SEAS TO OCEANS, FROM EARTH TO THE MOON
    Even being at death could repel any invaders!
    And now we cannot defeat cf ** corruption!
    And there someone still compares Putin with the former kings kings)))
    If Gorbi and Borya are from the category of False Dmitriyevs, then GDP is even up to PAVLA1 as far as the Chinese border on its knees backwards))
    Unloved Paul1: ruled 4 years, 4 months and 4 days
    1.Pavel introduced the real disciplinary and criminal liability of officers for maintaining the life and health of soldiers.
    2. Dismissed from service 333 generals and 2261 officers who failed to answer elementary simple questions on military affairs.
    3. Established infirmaries at each regiment.
    4. He ordered that all newly opened officer vacancies be occupied only by graduates of military schools or experienced non-commissioned officers from noblemen who had passed literacy exams and knowledge of the charter.
    5. He ordered that only those who passed the medical exam at the Medical College should be allowed to healers in the regiment.
    6 ..........
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 14 June 2013 16: 22 New
      +4
      Remembering of course that historical analogies are all wrong wink
      I would compare the GDP with Mikhail Romanov - come after the Time of Troubles, as I could twist something in the country, gradually restoring understanding of a certain integrity.
  16. Valery-SPB
    Valery-SPB 14 June 2013 12: 30 New
    +7
    I rated the article positively. But ... there are questions.
    Why should I be proud of such a country?

    In various discussions and disputes, including on the air, probably at a subconscious level, they assessed the contribution to the defeat of Nazi Germany, the rebuff by the Prince Nevsky crusaders, they recalled Suvorov, who led troops across the Alps, that the Russians took Berlin in a seven-year war, 1812 France was rebuffed and entered Paris.

    In general, we are well done! To whom it is necessary - heaped!

    What I want to enjoy:

    That the pension was higher than that of an ordinary Norwegian, because we pump more oil than they are and higher than that of the German, whom we have repeatedly defeated.
    So that all military veterans receive comfortable housing on time, and not when there is a small amount of them.
    To make affordable and quality housing.
    So that housing and communal services tariffs are lower and correspond to the real consumption of services, and not calculated.
    So that the thief official would sit until he burp loot ..., then a long list.
    Yes, also that foreign citizens consider it an honor for themselves to become a citizen of Russia, and not with the aim of avoiding taxes in their native country.

    I promise, oath, I will adore such a country!
    1. redwar6
      redwar6 14 June 2013 12: 58 New
      +3
      I would write, “What are we doing for this?”, But ... Why? How sad we are not playing any role. Quite. And you are right about something ..
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 14 June 2013 14: 27 New
      0
      Quote: Valery-SPB
      I rated the article positively. But ... there are questions.
      Why should I be proud of such a country?

      You can recall the march of paratroopers on Pristina, probably many of you watched the movie "Stormy Gates", which was shot on the basis of real events, on the other hand, you can see juvenile justice, gay pads and dying in poverty veterans in the United States.
      We have something to be proud of, dear Valery-SPB, this is not a bad country, you are bad, you are not worthy of the country of residence, such pseudo-patriots should be deported in 24 hours without the right to return.
      1. Valery-SPB
        Valery-SPB 14 June 2013 14: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: Setrac
        Setrac (1) RU Today, 14:27 PM ↑ New

        Quote: Valery-SPB
        I rated the article positively. But ... there are questions.
        Why should I be proud of such a country?

        You can recall the march of paratroopers on Pristina, probably many of you watched the movie "Stormy Gates", which was shot on the basis of real events, on the other hand, you can see juvenile justice, gay pads and dying in poverty veterans in the United States.
        We have something to be proud of, dear Valery-SPB, this is not a bad country, you are bad, you are not worthy of the country of residence, such pseudo-patriots should be deported in 24 hours without the right to return.


        I’m talking about this. We have pride in being piled on someone.
        And I am for peaceful accomplishments.
        I have masculinity, the orientation is appropriate, the rank of retired lieutenant colonel.
        And justice ... she, brother, is juvenile, and not "juvenile justice"! If you live in a world with such justice ... then you can ... have pity.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 14 June 2013 15: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: Valery-SPB
          And I am for peaceful accomplishments.

          Weren't you in the army?
          Peaceful accomplishments - be proud of our nuclear energy, rocket science, and be proud of Professor Pentkovsky, the creator of the Intellectual Processors. Each time I go to the Krasnodar-Rostov highway, I am proud of my country, from Krasnodar to Rostov, not a single intersection, only two-tier journeys. There is such a site - it was made with us, especially for all-prosraliteli.
          1. Valery-SPB
            Valery-SPB 14 June 2013 16: 47 New
            +4
            Quote: Setrac
            Setrac (1) RU Today, 15:15 PM ↑ New

            Quote: Valery-SPB
            And I am for peaceful accomplishments.

            Weren't you in the army?
            Peaceful accomplishments - be proud of our nuclear energy, rocket science, and be proud of Professor Pentkovsky, the creator of the Intellectual Processors. Each time I go to the Krasnodar-Rostov highway, I am proud of my country, from Krasnodar to Rostov, not a single intersection, only two-tier journeys. There is such a site - it was made with us, especially for all-prosraliteli.


            The dialogue is meaningless.
            You carefully read my post. Beginning: "In various discussions and disputes, including live, probably at the subconscious level, the contribution was evaluated ...".
            It was about the mentality of modern people.
            He was not a deputy politician.
            He swore allegiance to the Soviet Union, served the Soviet Union, did not swear allegiance to the new government.
            You have committed a second insult. Are you not interested in demagogy?
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 14 June 2013 17: 04 New
              -1
              Quote: Valery-SPB
              You have committed a second insult. Are you not interested in demagogy?

              For anti-Russian rhetoric, I called you a traitor - where is the insult?
              Quote: Setrac
              Weren't you in the army?

              Where is the insult? This is a question and not a statement, for clarity.
              Quote: Valery-SPB
              We have pride in being piled on someone.

              You turn upside down, we don’t attack, they attack us, so you can be proud. Russia, unlike the USA and Europe, does not bring "democracy" to the whole world; we have nothing to be ashamed of.
              1. aviamed90
                aviamed90 15 June 2013 16: 16 New
                +1
                Setrac

                With Valery-SPB, everything is clear.

                But here it warps from your inappropriate curiosity.
                As if, if a person did not serve or served as a political officer, then he cannot think logically correctly and has no right to express these thoughts? What is the connection?

                And who were you in the army, dear Setrac?

                For example, I, just like Valery-SPB, was not a political officer. It's enough?

                And you?
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 15 June 2013 16: 59 New
                  +1
                  Quote: aviamed90
                  But here it warps from your inappropriate curiosity.

                  Yes, I asked without any offensive intent, he himself put in an offensive meaning. There is a connection, he himself thinks or scratches the usual cliches, so to speak professionally.
                  Quote: aviamed90
                  And who were you in the army, dear Setrac?

                  I quit as a senior sergeant of military service - the Federal Railway Service of the Russian Federation.
                  1. aviamed90
                    aviamed90 15 June 2013 17: 03 New
                    +1
                    Setrac

                    Well, they called the colonel a traitor! Undeservedly!

                    Respect gray hair and epaulettes!
                    1. Setrac
                      Setrac 15 June 2013 17: 05 New
                      +1
                      Quote: aviamed90
                      Well, they called the colonel a traitor! Undeservedly!

                      Of course I apologize, I went too far, I don’t like it when they scold my homeland.
  17. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 14 June 2013 12: 46 New
    +2
    I would be proud of Russia if other countries fought among themselves for the right to be our colony, but with our bullshit we won’t see this
  18. True
    True 14 June 2013 12: 52 New
    +3
    There is no pride. I am ashamed! But no wonder, we lost the Cold War.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 14 June 2013 14: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: True
      There is no pride. I am ashamed! But no wonder, we lost the Cold War.

      The Cold War is not over, so talking about defeat is premature. In 1941, they were shot for such defeatist sentiments.
      1. True
        True 14 June 2013 15: 35 New
        +2
        Open your eyes ...
        1. Blackgrifon
          Blackgrifon 14 June 2013 20: 54 New
          +2
          Quote: Setrac
          The Cold War is not over, so talking about defeat is premature. In 1941, they were shot for such defeatist sentiments.


          Yeah - in full swing :) The war of civilizations - Western and Russian - is not over, but we lost the Cold War. And instead of making a revenge spurt, we just find ourselves.
          1. Genady1976
            Genady1976 14 June 2013 21: 00 New
            -1
            NOT WE LOSED, but they betrayed us
            1. Blackgrifon
              Blackgrifon 15 June 2013 23: 58 New
              +2
              Quote: Genady1976
              NOT WE LOSED, but they betrayed us


              A play on words - one must not deny the obvious, but try to understand, analyze the causes of the defeat, so as not only not to repeat the mistakes, but also to strike back.
  19. True
    True 14 June 2013 13: 06 New
    +2
    It’s time to drive the kremlyad with ragged rags. They are ALL traitors and thieves, without exception! And the sun-faced is no exception.
    Minus the ostriches!
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 14 June 2013 13: 43 New
      +1
      I pressed the wrong button, I put it
      1. Genady1976
        Genady1976 14 June 2013 21: 02 New
        0
        Friday everything is floating fellow drinks
  20. O_RUS
    O_RUS 14 June 2013 13: 17 New
    +4
    Quote: Egoza
    they answered, thinking about the last 20 years, who during that time had become a hero.


    ... over the past 20 years ... Russia will always have people who are proud of, who should be put as an example for growing youth
  21. True
    True 14 June 2013 13: 46 New
    +1
    June 14, 2013, 12:36 (Moscow time) RIA Novosti
    The United States is considering the introduction of a no-fly zone over Syria.
    Another reason for pride.
  22. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 14 June 2013 14: 00 New
    -1
    amers will not ask if they want anyone tomorrow in Syria they will be proud of us as our pack fa makes a vertical corkscrew
  23. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 14 June 2013 14: 11 New
    +4
    Our youth is proud of all sorts of devils, dreams of working on finished jobs, and living in the sky countries, pah, it's a shame for the state!
  24. rus9875
    rus9875 14 June 2013 14: 46 New
    +1
    The question was posed incorrectly. It would be better to ask, why am I not ashamed of my country? "Here I would have thought it over The only thing that immediately comes to mind is the first time since the collapse of the USSR I am not ashamed of the international politics of my country, I mean a firm position in relation to Syria - for the first time Russia defends its interests without looking back to the West Before that, we only did what we surrendered our allies and flirted with our enemies Well, what else? I don’t know what to say But we have beautiful children! , what we do with our hands ... You can’t say better than Putin - ,, whatever we do, anyway, it’s a Kalashnikov assault rifle "
    1. True
      True 14 June 2013 15: 14 New
      +2
      The only thing that immediately comes to mind - for the first time since the collapse of the USSR, I am not ashamed of the international politics of my country, I mean a strong position with regard to Syria - for the first time Russia defends its interests without looking back to the West

      Hm. In bends! How does it defend? I do not see a fundamental difference with Libya, for example. Have the S-300 been delivered to Syria? Are the peacekeepers there? Watch less TV!
      1. True
        True 14 June 2013 15: 20 New
        +1
        MOSCOW, Jun 14 - RIA News. Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation, Yuri Ushakov, after a statement by the American authorities about his intention to supply weapons to the Syrian opposition, said that there was no talk about the implementation of a contract between Russia and Syria on the supply of S-300 systems.

        MOSCOW, Jun 14 - RIA News. The United States is considering the introduction of a no-fly zone over Syria, which may extend to the area near the Syrian-Jordanian border, Reuters reported on Friday, citing Western diplomats.

      2. rus9875
        rus9875 14 June 2013 17: 59 New
        +2
        Libya specifically leaked when voting in the Security Council As for Syria, they used the veto and clearly said that they would block any resolution authorizing military intervention Do you catch the difference? Some sort of behind-the-scenes trading seems to be going on. What will end - it will be seen further. Well, as for peacekeepers or, all the more, direct military participation, I personally am categorically against it - there are enough of our fighters and not in that condition to show ourselves effectively there, rather on the contrary screwed up If you have a desire to run and shoot - go ahead Contact the Syrian Embassy, ​​explain in which area of ​​military affairs you are a great specialist If you have any military experience or any military specialty then you will be taken And if you are an Internet theorist then sit at the computer and sniff in two holes and where to send peacekeepers let those who should take this post
  25. Harleone
    Harleone 14 June 2013 14: 52 New
    +1
    Yeah, that's right. There is no ideology in the country, except for the ideology of consumption. In the name of what to perform labor and not only feats?
  26. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 14 June 2013 15: 02 New
    0
    I can be proud of my exploits on my wife at night
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 14 June 2013 15: 19 New
      +7
      Quote: soldier's grandson
      I can be proud of my exploits on my wife at night

      + Today my son was born, the second!
      1. True
        True 14 June 2013 15: 22 New
        +4
        My congratulations!!! drinks
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 14 June 2013 15: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: True
          My congratulations!!!

          thank you
      2. sergo0000
        sergo0000 14 June 2013 16: 12 New
        +3
        Quote: Setrac
        + Today my son was born, the second!

        Congratulations too !! drinks Real men are just missing us right now! good And here I am no matter how I “shoot”, so the girl certainly turns out! wink Grow healthy and strong! drinks drinks hi
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 14 June 2013 16: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: sergo0000
          Congratulations too !! Real men are just missing us right now! And here I am no matter how I “shoot”, so the girl certainly turns out! Grow healthy and strong!

          She’s such a life, whose girls want at least one boy, and who has boys, they want at least one girl.
  27. For the Motherland
    For the Motherland 14 June 2013 15: 09 New
    +1
    Count D. A. Tolstoy wrote to Alexander III at the time of his appointment as Minister of the Interior (1882): “I am convinced that the reforms of the last reign were a mistake, that our population was calm, prosperous ... different branches of government activity did not harm each other, they ruled the local agents of the government under the control of other higher agents of the same power, and now there was a ruined, beggarly, drunk, discontented population of peasants, a ruined, displeased nobility, courts that constantly harm the police, 600 were told by zemstvo, opposition to the government "
  28. For the Motherland
    For the Motherland 14 June 2013 15: 11 New
    -1
    Count D. A. Tolstoy wrote to Alexander III at the time of his appointment as Minister of the Interior (1882): “I am convinced that the reforms of the last reign were a mistake, that our population was calm, prosperous ... different branches of government activity did not harm each other, they ruled the local agents of the government under the control of other higher agents of the same power, and now there was a ruined, beggarly, drunk, discontented population of peasants, a ruined, displeased nobility, courts that constantly harm the police, 600 were told by zemstvo, opposition to the government "
  29. Russ69
    Russ69 14 June 2013 15: 23 New
    +3
    Quote: Setrac
    + Today my son was born, the second!

    Congratulations from the bottom of my heart, I also have two ... good
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 14 June 2013 16: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: Russ69
      Quote: Setrac
      + Today my son was born, the second!

      Congratulations from the bottom of my heart, I also have two ... good

      I heartily congratulate you! drinks It's up to the small-men to grow! drinks
  30. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 14 June 2013 16: 13 New
    +3
    But I’m proud that I am Russian and live in Russia. I am glad that we do not have gameparades and Muslims do not trash shops and do not burn cars. Yes, we are not an ideal country, but at the dawn of the USSR, too, there was ruin and poverty, so we’ll break through. The main thing is not to despair. smile
    1. Abakanets
      Abakanets 14 June 2013 21: 19 New
      -2
      Muslims would not have a crystal night.
  31. Argast
    Argast 14 June 2013 16: 25 New
    0
    We lost the 3rd world. It is a fact. In Russia, the occupation government
  32. homosum20
    homosum20 14 June 2013 17: 16 New
    0
    Nonsense is all that. Lies and deceit. Any man is primarily proud of the size of his ..... (you ask any psychiatrist). This question is not reflected in the survey. So - a lie and provocation of foreign agents, not a poll.
    1. rus9875
      rus9875 14 June 2013 18: 05 New
      +2
      Well, if there is nothing more to be proud of - this is a worthy reason for pride. The main thing is that it also works as it should. Unfortunately I do not have experience with psychiatrists
  33. barila
    barila 14 June 2013 18: 44 New
    +3
    And I'm proud that I was born in the USSR.
  34. Genady1976
    Genady1976 14 June 2013 19: 13 New
    +2
    It is noteworthy that almost 42% of respondents said that there are no recent events that one could be proud of in Russia. I AM WITH THEM.
    6% of respondents named WWII veterans. AND WITH THEM.
    And all we have is all from the USSR. Russia has not created something useful
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  36. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 14 June 2013 19: 24 New
    +2
    And I am proud that no matter how they rocked, didn’t shake different Leberasts and swamp walkers Our RUSSIA,
    but she holds on and does not give up on this ....
  37. sprut
    sprut 14 June 2013 20: 46 New
    +1
    Now, if Russia were the first to land in the last long time on the moon. And the first on Mars. That would be a sensation !!!
  38. Petrovich
    Petrovich 14 June 2013 21: 13 New
    +2
    To summarize: the country needs heroes, and you know who gives birth to whom. But there will be a holiday on our street. I believe that we will still have something to be proud of.
  39. Abakanets
    Abakanets 14 June 2013 21: 25 New
    -1
    There is no reason for pride in the victory in the Second World War, for the crooked-arm government allowed the Germans to the walls of Moscow.
    Victory at the Olympics is also not a reason for pride, because athletes speak only for themselves.
    Proud of the country and the people, too, there is neither a desire nor a reason, since almost the whole country is quilted and tolera.
    Proud of the Olympics and the World Cup in football, this is also idiocy, with this money you can build apartments for at least one Moscow.
    The only thing that remains proud of me is that I am Russian. That's all.
    1. Genady1976
      Genady1976 14 June 2013 22: 03 New
      +1
      About WWII I'm not with you
    2. sergo0000
      sergo0000 14 June 2013 22: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: Abakanets
      The only thing that remains proud of me is that I am Russian. That's all.

      And I do not want to be proud that such as you call yourself Russian! am
      1. Abakanets
        Abakanets 15 June 2013 01: 03 New
        0
        I am a purebred Russian, and therefore I call myself that.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 15 June 2013 02: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: Abakanets
          I am a purebred Russian, and therefore I call myself that.

          There were no purebreds on the whole planet. Of the three main races, there was no one left; the white race degenerated into gray, red into yellow, and black into brown. We all live here Russified, or Russified.
          1. Abakanets
            Abakanets 15 June 2013 12: 03 New
            +1
            Genetics do not think so.
  40. kavkaz8888
    kavkaz8888 14 June 2013 23: 19 New
    -1
    Most importantly, NIGHT Svarog ENDS.
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 15 June 2013 11: 07 New
      0
      it didn’t start (revealed to you a terrible secret, by the way yes )
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 15 June 2013 17: 02 New
        0
        Quote: cth; fyn
        it didn’t start (revealed a terrible secret to you, by the way)

        Well, of course, for thousands of years, there was no Drakht Nakht, and there was no occupation of Russia, and the foreign Romanov dynasty did not rule for 300 years (just like the yoke 300 years), and there was no baptism of fire and sword.
      2. kavkaz8888
        kavkaz8888 16 June 2013 09: 57 New
        0
        Is this apparently your minus sign, Andrei? Yes, the secret is certainly terribly scary. But since you own such a secret, enlighten, pliz. DISPLAY your condescendingly ironic statement.
        I personally was not present at its beginning (Svarog’s night), and they didn’t tell me at school for that. Then, however, there was still socialism and no one had ever heard of such things.
        I would very much like references to specifics.
  41. Combitor
    Combitor 15 June 2013 03: 08 New
    +1
    I found an interesting commentary that deserves attention, in my opinion, on the Free Press website. True, another topic was discussed there - another recent message from Putin. But I want to give this comment in full. There, it seems to me it is said about what we could be proud of, if not ...
    Stylistics, spelling and more preserved.
    <I am always saddened by the information that our country is still not half feeding itself. With our open spaces. For all living things on earth, food always comes first. Even home heating takes a modest second place. On the other hand, it is a matter of national security. What is the use of building up nuclear potential if a country that is not able to feed itself can be conquered without any war, without missiles and bombing. Elementary. Any fortress in history stood as long as it lacked food and water. Even with an excess of warriors. For me personally, the food issue has long been a criterion for the adequacy and competence of any government. However, with our government, the food program has once again failed. Russia still faces the whole world with outstretched hands. What is the reason? I will name only one missed chance. When the Union collapsed and the active squeezing of all Russians began in our fraternal suburbs, many hundreds of thousands of our compatriots wished to return to Russia. Educated, qualified, eager for work, with already born and growing children. It was a magnificent gift of fate. This is a unique case when an army of excellent workers suddenly, by the will of fate, turns out to be easy to climb and ready to rush to where they will be well called. Smart power would come out of the skin to equip these people with dignity and effectiveness. Build them houses for free in endangered villages, bring roads and other infrastructure, provide legal, medical, veterinary and other support. Of course, subsidies and interest-free loans. Etc. etc. And as a caring mother, patronize and cherish them until these new farmers are firmly on their feet. After five to seven years of such a policy, the country would have fed itself. This would be the most creative revolution in the history of the country. And the names of the rulers would be inscribed in golden letters in the history of the new Russia. Alas! Our government mediocrely missed this opportunity. And just something, to spit, we did not have just two people - President Deng Xiao Ping, and Prime Minister Pyotr Arkadyevich Stolypin. Rest in peace. In our country, however, completely different people appeared in power, choosing championships, olympiads, ATEs, feeding dubious political regimes and their own unbridled enrichment as their priorities. The authorities chose the support of foreign farmers and the US budget, and instead of equipping their compatriots, they provided a grandiose "invasion of barbarians." Russia was not particularly lucky with the rulers before, but the current bad luck seems to be decisive and tragic.
    Vyacheslav>
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 15 June 2013 04: 15 New
      -3
      Quote: Kombitor
      I am always saddened by the information that our country is still not half feeding itself.

      This is a misconception, various delicacies are exported, products of the second and third necessities that do not grow in Russia, or grow poorly due to the climate.
      Quote: Kombitor
      What's the use of building up nuclear capacity

      “We cross swords into yelling,” we have already passed this.
  42. washi
    washi 15 June 2013 06: 31 New
    0
    It is necessary to change the psychology of the population. The church should serve as an example, adopting the ideology of not acquisitiveness.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 16 June 2013 10: 24 New
      0
      Quote: Vasya
      It is necessary to change the psychology of the population. The church should serve as an example, adopting the ideology of not acquisitiveness.

      The church sets the opposite example. The ideology of the church is money, power, and the prohibition of other religions into their "pastures."
  43. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 16 June 2013 09: 41 New
    +1
    More than twenty years have passed since independence. You can summarize some of the results. A revolution has occurred in the transformation of the self-awareness of Russian citizens. Russian society has followed the western path of development, and is gradually turning into a consumer society. Everything is estimated in rubles. Therefore, it is not surprising that one third of the Russian people is ready to “slip away” over the hill, because jam with cookies is sweeter there. Nobody calls to live in poverty and asceticism, but also to set yourself the main life value - grub, probably bust ... Sad results.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 16 June 2013 10: 35 New
      0
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      Russian society has followed the western path of development, and is gradually turning into a consumer society. Everything is estimated in rubles.

      A person needs to eat, without consumption anywhere.
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      Therefore, it is not surprising that one third of the Russian people is ready to “slip away” over the hill, because jam with cookies is sweeter there.

      Were you ready to take off at the time of the USSR?
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      More than twenty years have passed since independence.
  44. Andrey K.
    Andrey K. 16 June 2013 11: 47 New
    -3
    The red bastard still rules. They want to rule like Stalin, but live like Abramovich. As Russia fell under the yoke in 1917, so far our country is under occupation. The fraternal, Slavic peoples are divided. Russia pays tribute to Chechnya. The troops won the war; Judas in the Kremlin betrayed everything. Etc. etc. And you can be proud of a lascivious old man.
  45. Foooxxxxx
    Foooxxxxx 16 June 2013 17: 12 New
    -1
    Those who said there was nothing to be proud of were mistaken. The fact that Russia has some authority in the world is already talking about something. Yes, and the providence of the Olympics and the World Cup is also already something. The level of life is all the same very slowly but growing. minus theft and politics, which is basically the same thing ...
  46. Cormorants
    Cormorants 27 August 2013 08: 26 New
    0
    Recently, foreign policy has caused pride, as it should, independent, harsh. Not that Garbach and Yeltsin, the western litter, looking at them how they behaved in the international arena, it becomes sickening.