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Stealing the elite has become a serious threat to Putin

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Stealing the elite has become a serious threat to PutinLocal officials unite and block unfavorable center decisions for them, expert says


The authorities, as best they can, fight for the cleanliness of a bureaucratic corporation — as they can, it snaps and fights. Marlezonsky ballet called "anti-corruption struggle" began long ago, and the final is not visible to him yet. Only intrigues now and then twist one more than another, citizens with amazement will learn about all the new and new criminal schemes, but they don’t know about the others. After all, among those who bring corrupt officials to clean water, there are corrupt officials.

In general, the fight against corruption can be quite clearly compared with the treatment of HIV infection. That is, we all know that, in principle, it is impossible to exterminate the virus of corruption, as it is impossible to eradicate possessiveness in principle, but the state conducts some of its “antiretroviral therapy”, thanks to which the state’s immunity is still at the proper level. True, this “damned question” from Griboedov interferes with this “treatment”: and who are the judges? That is, we know them very well by name, they don’t get off the TV screens, but how clean are they themselves, how genuinely are they fighting corruption, and how much do they sincerely believe in their success? ..

Meanwhile, corruption in Russia is greatly aggravated by the fact that the overwhelming majority of its large “adepts” feel practically invulnerable: their loyalty, sometimes hypertrophied, to the Kremlin is a guarantee. The corrupt, of course, must in principle be loyal, because he needs some guarantees. So it’s not at all surprising that oh, what a considerable proportion of bureaucrats tied up for corruption turned out to be members of one political party, which, by the way, made fighting bribe-takers one of its program priorities. What does this mean in practice? And the fact that the main corrupt officials in Russia, according to statistics, are doctors and teachers.

In February of last year, a truly shocking news: in the city of Pavlovo, Nizhny Novgorod region, law enforcement agencies detained ... An 90-year-old female doctor, a blockade who “took bribes” with food. No one argues with the fact that everyone is equal before the law, but well, the gallant Investigative Committee is clearly struggling from the wrong end. Patients accept food and even small rewards, as reality suggests, not at all from a good life. And somewhere much higher than the blockade-doctor Antonina Antonova, the official Vasily Pupkin (all coincidences are accidental) sits, on which her position directly depends and which should not be like this: money from the budget goes on regularly. But Pupkin is not tugging: he is an important and necessary person. He can, at the right time, mobilize an obedient, budget-dependent electorate and make a weighty contribution to the victory of the party, some of whose representatives, I remember, called history with doctor Antonova "an obvious bend". Greater corruption gives rise to petty. But if for the first one there is a free choice, greed for money and power, then for the second one is at times elementary need.

And finally, to bring all these "Basil Pupkin" with large bellies, on which the jackets do not converge, to clean water ... but something our valiant consequence is not in a hurry. Although the head of state does not get tired of repeating the blatant facts of embezzlement. And he doesn’t just speak, but he demands that he pound the table with his fist.

In vain knocks. At least, the authors of the article in the American edition of Foreign Affairs, an article analyzing the “anti-corruption campaign” conducted in Russia, say so. The well-known Russian economist Vladislav Inozemtsev and the Bulgarian political analyst Ivan Krastev, in their joint work “Putin’s Self-Destruction” (“Putin’s Suicide”), argue that the ongoing anti-corruption campaign in Russia with all its obvious advantages can be a stick for the government’s image on two ends: this struggle in itself can deprive the current regime of legitimacy. However, the authors chose a somewhat strange example of a “vivid example”: for some reason they remembered the “dry law” introduced by Gorbachev, who, in their opinion, became the “grave-digger” of the regime. However, with the very promise that the anti-corruption struggle now being waged "on all fronts" may be fraught with Putin, it is difficult to disagree.

Under the conditions of total “manual control”, when the notorious “vertical” turned out to be only the imagination of the president himself, the real, and not declared, struggle against bribe-takers in the high political atmosphere can indeed be fraught with the Kremlin. It is precisely because (it is important to understand!) That the inactive vertical, when any small clerk thousands of kilometers from Moscow can give a damn about the disposal of the Kremlin, realizing that he most likely will have nothing for that, and if he does, then not immediately you can have time to slip away. The people, seeing the inability of the authorities to appease the voracious beast, is about to be ready to grumble. After all, declarations are declarations, but utility bills from them will not be less.

But the doctor from the district clinic will be planted.

In a conversation with a KM.RU columnist, the Chairman of the Anti-Corruption Committee of Russia, Kirill Kabanov, noted that the fight against corruption, with all its flaws and risks, is needed as a guarantee of preserving the state as such:

- In fact, opposition to the control system by the elite has been going on for a long time, and the assertion that an active fight against corruption will inevitably lead to some negative consequences is nonsense. If such a struggle is not waged, the control system itself, even if it is such today, will be destroyed. Then officials tied with corruption schemes form a kind of “corporation”. Yes, strictly speaking, today such officials are uniting locally and blocking unfavorable decisions from the center. Their tasks are radically different from those declared by Putin. They do not connect their lives and the lives of their loved ones with Russia, and they live by the simple principle of earning money here as long as there is such an opportunity.

So, the now caught part of the elite is already a serious threat to the current government, and to the country in general. The fight against them must first be effective, but there are certain concerns in this area. In the struggle there should be no kinks, the change of elites should be done carefully. There should not be some kind of nagging, let someone continue to think that the current fight against corruption is not being actively pursued. In priority - efficiency.
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  1. Isk1984
    Isk1984 14 June 2013 15: 08 New
    28
    So the good king and the evil boyars, had it already happened somewhere? ...
    1. Vovka levka
      Vovka levka 14 June 2013 15: 13 New
      15
      Quote: Isk1984
      So the good king and the evil boyars, had it already happened somewhere? ...

      And many, many times. The theme is reinforced concrete, and people like it.
      1. vezunchik
        vezunchik 14 June 2013 16: 43 New
        +3
        A chant in the spirit of the Brezhnev era - PUTIN PUTIN ????
        1. Sour
          Sour 14 June 2013 17: 48 New
          +9
          Do you remember the Brezhnev era well?
          There were no chants "Brezhnev, Brezhnev." Did not have.
          There was enough applause and ovation, but it was not accepted to chant the name of the leader.
          In general, then the party congresses looked different. More delegates, longer speeches, and on both TV channels (there were only two of them then) showed nothing but congresses.
          And the Secretary General of the CPSU was elected by secret ballot. Of course, a fiction, but it was accepted.
          By the way, chanting the surname of the head of the party is not an eructation of the Brezhnev era. It is rather borrowed from the West.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 14 June 2013 18: 13 New
            -2
            Quote: Sour
            More delegates, longer speeches, and on both TV channels (there were only two of them then) showed nothing but congresses.

            And on the third channel, the KGB officer asked: "Why do not you like the first two?" (from a joke) wink
            And the next day in all the newspapers the text of the speech was printed, interrupted by the inserts “applause”, “loud prolonged applause”, and after the speech “loud prolonged applause turning into a standing ovation, the cries of 'Hurray!', 'Glory to the CPSU !!', 'Long live party, government, and personally, dear comrade Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev !!! ' "(not a joke, but a historical fact).
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 14 June 2013 18: 14 New
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            Quote: Sour
            More delegates, longer speeches, and on both TV channels (there were only two of them then) showed nothing but congresses.

            And on the third channel, the KGB officer asked: "Why do not you like the first two?" (from a joke) wink
            And the next day in all the newspapers the text of the speech was printed, interrupted by the inserts “applause”, “loud prolonged applause”, and after the speech “loud prolonged applause turning into a standing ovation, the cries of 'Hurray!', 'Glory to the CPSU !!', 'Long live party, government, and personally, dear comrade Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev !!! ' "(not a joke, but a historical fact).
        2. Interface
          Interface 15 June 2013 11: 55 New
          0
          Only under Brezhnev did the USSR reach its peak in development, and under Putin we are compelled to "console" ourselves with former greatness --- most of the respondents consider the "dear Leonid Ilyich" the BEST GOVERNOR of the 20 CENTURY.

          Although I didn’t live then, I know that the praise was also enough: in the 1981 at the XXVI CPSU Congress, the speech of the Secretary General was interrupted by applause — 78 times, “prolonged applause” —40 times, “stormy prolonged applause — 8 times.

          So;) I think the chanting of "Putin-Putin" "--- this is how to say nothing, by the standards of the CPSU.
      2. neri73-r
        neri73-r 14 June 2013 16: 46 New
        +4
        The point is not in the kings, but in the fact that the author is right! And it’s necessary not to say that I heard it somewhere, but to take some real measures by the GDP, and first of all, to the upper stratum of the elite, while at the bottom they will say why they can, but I can’t get off the ground. country in breadth and vertical!
        1. w.ebdo.g
          w.ebdo.g 14 June 2013 17: 47 New
          10
          why does everyone expect actions and decisions from Putin?
          and who will he rely on? all sit at home, on the Internet and philosophize at the expense of the king, the boyars ...
          But what is everyone ready to do to free their homeland from parasites?
          when will Putin call people to revolt against bureaucrats, bribe takers and outspoken agents?
          I personally will go to this front without hesitation. Stop thinking already. Enough.
          It's time to start acting ...
          Apparently next year everything will start.
          1. Joker
            Joker 14 June 2013 18: 07 New
            +6
            I personally will go to this front without thinking.

            And who will not go? Only now nobody is going to call us, unfortunately, they are sitting there, playing in a sandbox.
            Apparently next year everything will start.

            They also talked about 2013, but things are still there. sad No action was taken to pin hopes on 2014.
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 14 June 2013 22: 59 New
              +6
              Quote: Joker
              They also talked about 2013, but things are still there.

              Well, actually, if you regularly read INOSMI (translations), then you can see that the tone in the Amer press has changed dramatically. There used to be harsh criticism of the “rotten corruption of Putin’s regime,” now the tone of the articles is given in the vein of “mass political repressions under the guise of an anti-corruption struggle for minor economic misconduct,” oh how! Is this nothing happening? In my opinion, everything is happening, and is happening so noticeably that it is already noticeable in the Western press. But we know the reinforced concrete rule - if the Western media start to resent something and actively oppose it, it means that they have moved in the absolutely right direction and this is exactly what is needed, and with acceleration!
          2. alexdol
            alexdol 14 June 2013 20: 51 New
            +1
            w.ebdo.g (1) RU "and why does everyone expect actions and decisions from Putin?
            and who will he rely on? everyone is sitting at home ... "
            -------------------------------------------------- ---
            And he was not going to write anything, but he met this statement and could not resist ... Here is poor Putin, doesn’t know whom to lean on? Moreover, such worthy PEOPLE in all respects as KVACHKOV, KHABAR, and other true PATRIOTS, he simply DOESN’T notice, and the trouble is, he doesn’t even know that these Bastards-MZDOIMTS condemned them !!! It’s such a misfortune, such a misfortune, who to turn to, how to reach out to Putin, so that the poor can tell him all this, then his native FATHER will be able to lean on them and the FIGHT against CORRUPTIONS will begin!
            1. CTEPX
              CTEPX 15 June 2013 01: 16 New
              0
              Quote: alexdol
              Here is poor Putin, doesn’t know who to rely on? Moreover, such people worthy in all respects

              This path passed and Trotsky and Lenin)). Take the loot from the enemy of Russia, in order to bring it (Russia) to a brighter future. In principle, they did it. But will Russia have enough population to once again go this way? And will the "geopolitical partners" allow it?)).
              1. alexdol
                alexdol 15 June 2013 08: 07 New
                +2
                CTEPX RU "This path went both Trotsky and Lenin)). Take the loot from the enemy of Russia, ..."
                --------------------------------------------------
                Something I do not quite understand your comment? And where does the "Trotsky with Lenin"? And what did they do? The fact that Trotsky is the rarest scum was always known about this, but today I refer “Ilyich” to the same scum! And it turned out not from them, but from STALIN! And if it weren’t, then by the efforts of the “heroes” listed by you and you and me today most likely also would not have been ...
                1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                  SASCHAmIXEEW 15 June 2013 14: 40 New
                  +1
                  Lenin and Trotsky would be built, too, that Putin built ... We need a second STALIN ,! to put all the scum on the wall !!! But then you need to change both the FSB and the FSO!
                2. CTEPX
                  CTEPX 17 June 2013 16: 58 New
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                  Quote: alexdol
                  Something I do not quite understand your comment? And where does the "Trotsky with Lenin"?


                  I agree. Kvachkov and Khabarov are more like Decembrists. Just about the Anglo-Saxon trace of the Decembrists - no one knows. About Trotsky with Lenin - a more understandable story.
                  And Stalin, a man who opposed himself and the history of Russia to the Anglo-Saxons)).
        2. cartridge
          cartridge 14 June 2013 18: 07 New
          +1
          Correctly! The fight against corruption must begin from the very top!
          1. papas-57
            papas-57 15 June 2013 01: 04 New
            +2
            The fish rots from the head, but they clean it from the tail. Have not forgotten this yet. And who at the top will fight corruption? Serdyukov? Medvedev? Zhirinovsky with his sons? Or maybe Chubais? Not a damn thing will come of it, corruption is invincible. Even Stalin could not defeat her
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 15 June 2013 14: 45 New
              0
              Jews didn’t give Stalin, they poisoned him! And he would have brought the Jewish Zionists away, and with them corruption, or rather bribe takers, there was no corruption as such !!!
        3. Tverichanka
          Tverichanka 14 June 2013 23: 44 New
          +2
          Quote: neri73-r
          why they can, but I can’t

          But it would be nice to try and at least some (in principle, of course, everyone) say to themselves, “you can’t.” I know, I know, “The fish is going out of my head.” But it’s practically all the same from what end this very fish is rotten; .And the interesting excuse for which many chose - they steal cars there, but I can’t do anything? And then they scream “We are Orthodox.” And keeping the commandments is useless? That is, again, double standards. I believe that NO ONE and NEVER can be stolen. And you never know what someone is doing there, that’s no reason for me to do the same. Any collapse on inaetsya with small pebbles.
        4. lelikas
          lelikas 15 June 2013 14: 41 New
          0
          Quote: neri73-r
          but that the author is right

          The author is not right in the definition - this is not the failed elite, but the thieves who have become it.
          It was naive to suppose that thieves who received power and money would begin to take care of the country and people.
      3. Ribwort
        Ribwort 15 June 2013 10: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: "The authorities, as they can, are fighting for the purity of the bureaucratic corporation ..."
        Is this a joke on the grudge of the day? Sorry, I didn’t read further ...
      4. optimist
        optimist 15 June 2013 11: 26 New
        +5
        Hence the conclusion: how stupid the people were 600 years ago, they have remained so ... This fairy tale about the "good" king and the "bad" boyars was used to be breathed in since time immemorial. And despite all the achievements of civilization, the people are not getting smarter. Only "performances" become larger and more expensive ... request And what is surprising: there are not so many "lured" in the country. When some head of administration and a “member” of the corresponding party of criminal elements praises GDP, this is understandable: he has his own “swag” from that. But when a beggarly impoverished collective farmer or a simple hard worker interrupting with random earnings, he is ready to tear .. for the GDP, any logic puts a bullet in his head ....
    2. VeteranVSK
      VeteranVSK 14 June 2013 16: 37 New
      +2
      Everything goes and it goes ... Everything goes in a spiral ...
    3. slav4ikus
      slav4ikus 14 June 2013 17: 19 New
      +6
      King makes retinue
    4. domokl
      domokl 14 June 2013 17: 48 New
      +5
      I read your comments and realized that reading and viewing is completely different. Putin, in your first term, if you forgot, just a protege of the system. And the system was strong, almost invulnerable ... Even the second term for Putin was just a breakdown of the pen.
      And now Putin is already an independent figure. But the system was and still is. You can replace the node, you can replace half of the nodes, the system will work as before ... Therefore, serious matters will not be brought to their logical end. They will put Serdyukov, many powers of the world will fall this. And they have enough money to simply remove Putin ... In every sense.
      It seems to me that the latest laws on income and deposits, on property abroad, on NPOs are just steps to knock out an alternate airport (such as London) for corruption officials. And the Americans understood this very well ... And the opposition was organized perfectly.
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 14 June 2013 23: 49 New
        0
        Quote: domokl
        I think h

        Thought rightly so. We can see with you thinkers working in the same direction. IMHO.
      2. optimist
        optimist 15 June 2013 12: 46 New
        +3
        Dear domokl! If you follow your (and not only your) logic, then GDP is a cunning KGB patriot who has "lurked" until the hour "X", and then he will show everyone! It’s just that kind of Ilya Muromets, who had been lying on the stove for 33 years, and then broke all the cots !!! laughing If you are even a little aware of people getting into the current regime, then you should be aware: even the most stupid toilet cleaner in the city administration of Zadrishchevsk just does not take. I think you will not argue that starting at least with a hunchback, all the rulers of Russia are agents of Western influence (at best). I remind you that in the beginning of the 90s your GDP “sawed” state property at the City Hall of Peter and Chubais and Sobchak. But even if we assume the impossible: GDP RIPPED and began to work for the interests of Russia, then literally the next day the whole world will find out that (for example): he was a traitor to the KGB, and now he has billions in Western banks and at night he drinks virgin blood . Don’t be naive: those who brought him to power in the early 2000s probably have a lot of incriminating evidence in case the “boy wants to kick back” ... Try to convince me otherwise. And I repeat 10000000 times: the director of a gay club, by definition, cannot be a normal guy. And the Russian people have a very good saying: "What a pop, so come!"
    5. honest jew
      honest jew 15 June 2013 13: 37 New
      +3
      Rather, Swan Lake would already be shown on TV .....
      1. Egevich
        Egevich 15 June 2013 14: 27 New
        0
        hm, they hit a point ... a patient ... I'm afraid we may not wait ...
  2. Nevsky
    Nevsky 14 June 2013 15: 09 New
    +5
    Now they’ll begin to break their spears, which’s more: “The evil boyars prevent the Tsar” or “the occupation regime that does not allow Putin to realize popular sovereignty” bully
    1. vadimN
      vadimN 14 June 2013 16: 35 New
      10
      I’ll propose the third option: “Putin leads the occupation administration” and implements the strategy of the overseas winner in the Cold War laughing
      1. Dawn
        Dawn 14 June 2013 17: 33 New
        +4
        More precisely, he continues this strategy, along with Medvedev.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 14 June 2013 17: 59 New
          +3
          Quote: Dawn
          More precisely, he continues this strategy, along with Medvedev.

          Sorry, but tipun your tongue!
      2. Dawn
        Dawn 14 June 2013 17: 34 New
        +2
        More precisely, he continues this strategy, along with Medvedev.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 14 June 2013 22: 24 New
          +1
          Another tip to your tongue. Next tip will be lead
      3. CTEPX
        CTEPX 15 June 2013 01: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: vadimN
        I’ll propose the third option: “Putin leads the occupation administration” and implements the strategy of the overseas winner in the Cold War

        I’ll propose the fourth option: “Putin leads the occupation administration”
        and leads the partisan movement of Russia)).
  3. Stock captain
    Stock captain 14 June 2013 15: 20 New
    18
    If the fight against corruption is real, it is necessary to shoot for bribes in China.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 14 June 2013 23: 18 New
      +2
      Quote: Stock Captain
      If the fight against corruption is real, it’s necessary to shoot for bribes in China

      - somehow completely in non-commissioned officers, oh, in captain’s, that is, excuse me. In a punitive case, the inevitability of punishment is much more important than its ferocity and the guarantee that this punishment will surely overtake all the perpetrators, regardless of position, ranks, connections, regalia and degree of influence. And so it can just sculpt a year - subject to the above two conditions, this will definitely give a result. And to shoot people who hold a post below a certain limit or post for corruption means simply staging a show for the people once a month in the square, where the 90-year-old blockade girl who was noted in the SAJ laughing but serious Vasya Pupkins will also look at it, but from VIP places.
      I know only one period of a completely non-corruption state - this is the USSR from 30 to the early 50s of the last century. But the ruling elite did not like this period terribly. Still - I’d like to edit so that if you made a mistake, neglected or could not resist the temptation, then you wouldn’t have anything for it. Therefore, the death of Stalin is highly suspicious. Therefore, if Putin stumbles somewhere or is careless, then we’ll also guess. The dream of the ruling elite has already been fulfilled for 25 years, let it snooze from the heart. It rules and does not bear any responsibility for this. You do not like? Call them from the deserts, where they like to take a walk and somehow convey to them the thought that ah-ah-ah, it's time to edit so that there would be a result. No result in Skolkovo? How much money was spent? Take an analog - Silicon Valley. By the time a similar amount was spent, the Silicon Valley already had such and such a result. Where is the similar one here? No? forward to Kolyma and with the song. And so for each industry, for each item.
      1. fisherman
        fisherman 15 June 2013 01: 24 New
        +4
        “Thousands of people think about how to improve laws, and millions of people think about how to get around them” (V. Putin)
  4. Russ69
    Russ69 14 June 2013 15: 20 New
    -2
    Quote: Isk1984
    So the good king and the evil boyars, had it already happened somewhere? ...

    So it was, is and will be ... And it does not matter who the king is.
  5. fenix57
    fenix57 14 June 2013 15: 23 New
    0
    GDP cannot know much ... Primorsky Krai, Slavic Shipyard (owned by Tekiev (his "ex-wife") -the vice speaker of the Legislative Assembly of Primorsky Krai (his wife) -want to build a coal terminal- against the desire of the residents of Slavyanka! -Yes don't care- construction is going on ... And in the region they know, but ... mani.mani ... o..yes ..
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 14 June 2013 16: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: fenix57
      ) -Want to build a coal terminal- against the desire of the residents of Slavyanka!

      Today, the "vertical" and big business can easily and are willing to negotiate with local residents. And if this does not happen, then it is highly likely that specially trained funds will participate in the organization of protests)). Especially when it comes to key projects: modern metallurgy - the foundations of modern machine tools, the organization of raw materials extraction to create a modern elemental base. What is it, the organization of any production that requires the availability of local labor resources is immediately attacked. A vivid example: the organization of PR-bullying the construction of the Yenisei Ferroalloy Plant in Krasnoyarsk. The start was given to her by the Gorbachev Foundation and the Khodorkovsky Media, then the "local" exporters of non-ferrous metals, ALL parties and ALL local "elitists" pulled themselves up. Rather, not all, but showed only "all")).
      We agreed to the point that the industrial city of Krasnoyarsk should become a financial and tourist center)) of Russia. Question: where in this case will the Russian-speaking population go?
      As a result, Putin's 2020 development program is under real threat of disruption)).
      This topic, requires a real investigation and real landings.
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    3. rereture
      rereture 14 June 2013 18: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: fenix57
      .mani.mani ... o..yes ..


      In fact, it says mani, and spells money wink
    4. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 15 June 2013 14: 54 New
      0
      Where are the partisans?
  6. Mizhgan
    Mizhgan 14 June 2013 15: 27 New
    10
    Knocking in vain. At least, this is the opinion of the authors of an article published in the American edition of Foreign Affairs with an analysis of the “anti-corruption campaign” conducted in Russia. Well-known Russian economist Vladislav Inozemtsev and Bulgarian political scientist Ivan Krastev in their joint work “Putin's Self-Destruction” (Putin’s Suicide) argue that the high-profile anti-corruption campaign carried out in Russia today, with all its obvious advantages for the image of the authorities, can most likely turn out to be a stick about two ends: this struggle alone can deprive the current regime of legitimacy. True, the authors chose a somewhat strange “illustrative example”: for some reason they remembered the “dry law” introduced under Gorbachev, which, in their opinion, became the “grave digger” of the regime. However, it is difficult to disagree with the premise that the anti-corruption struggle being waged "on all fronts" may be fraught with Putin

    Well, this is not news ... And so everyone knows that American authors mean ... But mean that the State Department is not going to stop funding the opposition part of Russia, in the form of NGOs and other pseudo-organizations that lead and support subversive activities to destroy Russia from the inside ...
  7. KCC
    KCC 14 June 2013 15: 28 New
    +5
    It seems that the time has come to introduce the oprichnina, after such an analysis of the situation in the country with corruption, you begin to understand something similar to the motives of the actions of Ivan Vasilyevich (Ivan Gorozny).
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 14 June 2013 16: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: KCC
      similar motives for the actions of Ivan Vasilievich (Ivan Gorozny

      Absolutely! Everything there also happened against the background of the collapse of the State.
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    4. Vadivak
      Vadivak 14 June 2013 16: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: KCC
      it's time to introduce the oprichnina


      Then it will not seem to everyone right and guilty
      1. individual
        individual 14 June 2013 19: 30 New
        +2
        Well no.
        Those, again attached to the "rods" to distribute to you and me a hat.
      2. aksakal
        aksakal 14 June 2013 22: 30 New
        +2
        Vadivak, the forest is cut - chips fly. What do you want? They started the disease and now dream of antibiotics without side effects? Haha Among the side effects may be impotence, in the sense that the state can remain alive, free from corruption, but in terms of scientific and technological development, complete zero. Like norway laughing
    5. atalef
      atalef 14 June 2013 17: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: KCC
      It seems that the time has come to introduce the oprichnina, after such an analysis of the situation in the country with corruption, you begin to understand something similar to the motives of Ivan Vasilievich (Ivan Gorozny

      Well, actually the oprichnina has long been introduced. There is a caste of untouchables (the truth is more precisely a group. Because, ideally, this has a completely different meaning). Which crushed the entire economy. It began with Yeltsin, with his famous family. Putin behaved the same way, only family members are classmates, classmates, the FSB.
      He was hoping. that these will not betray. Mistake, the revolution devours its children. A monster has grown that makes him play by his own rules. and like the course of a river, it’s cool when it’s downstream, but against the contrary, it will break you down.
      Having led Russia along the path of the vertical of power, who thought that in the end the vertical will begin to rule its leader
      1. fisherman
        fisherman 15 June 2013 01: 31 New
        +1
        that in the end, the vertical will begin to rule its leader


        do not forget to use the same logic when discussing, for example, military supplies to Syria in order to look like a consistent patient :))
    6. runway
      runway 15 June 2013 11: 07 New
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      And to appoint Serdyukov as the chief oprichnik - he is now just free ....
  8. omsbon
    omsbon 14 June 2013 15: 28 New
    15
    Let's decide: we want corruption to be fought or developed methods to combat it.
    If nothing is done, then the cart will not budge.
    As much as we would not like, but (unfortunately) there will be no public executions, but there will be multi-volume, boring affairs.
    Without the complete confiscation of stolen property hidden from relatives or abroad, there will be no effective fight against embezzlers!
    1. Rakti-kali
      Rakti-kali 14 June 2013 23: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: omsbon
      Without the complete confiscation of stolen property hidden from relatives or abroad, there will be no effective fight against embezzlers!

      In gold. On granite. And each letter is two arshins.
      1. fisherman
        fisherman 15 June 2013 01: 34 New
        +4
        during the survey it turned out that approximately 85% of Russians consider all businessmen, deputies, officials - thieves ... while about 85% of them would like to be in their place ...

        :)
  9. Black
    Black 14 June 2013 15: 41 New
    +6
    According to statistics, the main corrupt officials in Russia are doctors and teachers.
    Statistics knows everything! Yes, yes, they are the root of Russia's corruption troubles.
    More nurses, nurses, and kindergarten teachers! The aggravation taking place on March 8 shakes the foundations of civilization.
    Funny ... if it weren’t so sad.

    Quote: omsbon
    Without the complete confiscation of stolen property hidden from relatives or abroad, there will be no effective fight against embezzlers!


    This is one way. And when they say that it’s difficult to do in our country in view of the vast territories, again it’s ridiculous ..
    Another way is the "Komsomol" call to power. The "blood" of the patient must be changed all, but not in portions. We will have enough talented youth.
    1. vadimN
      vadimN 14 June 2013 16: 38 New
      +5
      Quote: Chen
      We will have enough talented youth.


      Yeah ... the Seliger party has long been in a queue to the feeding trough sitting and waiting, waiting ....
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 14 June 2013 22: 38 New
        +5
        Young people from the age of fifteen know the rules of the game laughing Already at the age of fifteen I dream in a frontier school, I admire and ask, like I admire !, to devote his life to protecting the borders of the Motherland, and he, a goldfinch, looks at me like a sucker - well, what can you do, I’m an elderly naive and patiently explains that the frontier guard has a faculty of border inspection, and the defense of the homeland at this faculty is a task of the second degree of importance laughing Are you hoping for this youth? And actually there’s no other laughing Nude nude
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 15 June 2013 01: 49 New
          +2
          Quote: aksakal
          Are you hoping for this youth? And the other one is actually gone

          Yes there is, there are other youth! Only she is not purposefully targeted. Till)).
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 15 June 2013 15: 08 New
            +1
            That's right, true RUSSIA, not like "our" power! At the top there is one Jewish-Zionist foam and their hangers-on, but their change is on the way !!! Tremble the ghouls and tricks, the COURT will be over without lawyers !!!
  10. Black
    Black 14 June 2013 15: 41 New
    +4
    According to statistics, the main corrupt officials in Russia are doctors and teachers.
    Statistics knows everything! Yes, yes, they are the root of Russia's corruption troubles.
    More nurses, nurses, and kindergarten teachers! The aggravation taking place on March 8 shakes the foundations of civilization.
    Funny ... if it weren’t so sad.

    Quote: omsbon
    Without the complete confiscation of stolen property hidden from relatives or abroad, there will be no effective fight against embezzlers!


    This is one way. And when they say that it’s difficult to do in our country in view of the vast territories, again it’s ridiculous ..
    Another way is the "Komsomol" call to power. The "blood" of the patient must be changed all, but not in portions. We will have enough talented youth.
    1. avt
      avt 14 June 2013 16: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: Chen
      Another way is the "Komsomol" call to power. The "blood" of the patient must be changed all, but not in portions. We will have enough talented youth.

      Under total capitalism and the Gaidar formula still in force, do you think the market will regulate everything? Will it help? After the coup, I saw how the then libertia in government offices reveled in victory and words about how we’ll live now and how adult uncles are popular, whom we affectionately ride on a penis and beckoning a denyuzhka quickly accustomed to the values ​​of the free world. ”Before that, SE had overturned the trading a gang and threw the Komsomol members and as later told the former catering worker, the owner of one of the first cooperative restaurants in Moscow on Kropotkinskaya, where they took 10% each, the newcomers Komsomol began to take 40-50 on the kind of money %. Here is something that tells me - you are offering a turnip from the other end.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 14 June 2013 18: 04 New
        +6
        Quote: avt
        Here is something that tells me - you have a turnip from the other end.

        Speak correctly! Announce a change of course from the "free" market to the course of state socialism! With all the consequences. And the thing goes. And Lukashenko will share his experience on how, what, whom and how much.
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 15 June 2013 01: 25 New
          0
          Quote: Egoza
          about the change of course from the "free" market to the course of state socialism!

          For starters, at least, on the course of state capitalism)).
  11. KCC
    KCC 14 June 2013 15: 43 New
    11
    It is necessary to introduce full confiscation in the criminal code, so that not only the property of the embezzler and the corrupt official would be confiscated, but also the property of his immediate family. I understand it sounds harsh, but now the whole family of officials will be afraid not to stay in the open field when they grab a grabber and this may stop them from burying at all.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 15 June 2013 15: 10 New
      0
      1000 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  12. nikolas 83
    nikolas 83 14 June 2013 15: 46 New
    +3
    Chubais would be the first to shoot all property to the state.
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 15 June 2013 01: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: nikolas 83
      Chubais would be the first to shoot all property to the state.

      Half the property of the Rothschilds is in the studio!
  13. PPO-1980
    PPO-1980 14 June 2013 16: 01 New
    +9
    Confiscation, yes! The death penalty, yes! It would not be bad to return work in places not so remote. And that is terrible in prison. Sit, read books, sleep, eat and walk under guard. 2 thirds without noise spent on parole went quietly spending stolen goods.
    And it would not be bad to start with ourselves. Those who work in the sovereign service as expected (qualitatively). In the sense of not familiar out of turn queue, and ordinary citizens to receive properly. Then the lines will at least become smaller. And accordingly it is not necessary to mumble.
    1. nikolas 83
      nikolas 83 14 June 2013 16: 18 New
      12
      And we work as it should for 12 hours. And the hard worker has a quarterly bonus of 500 rubles and the boss has 700 thousand. They don’t put a simple person in anything.
  14. fisherman
    fisherman 14 June 2013 16: 02 New
    +9
    But he himself is not from this elite? He is going to fight with friends and relatives .... with tenacity good
  15. fisherman
    fisherman 14 June 2013 16: 06 New
    +3
    song Slepakova "Song of the Russian official"

    Overwhelmed by wild fear, I am all mired in robbery,
    I'm stealing on such a scale that I’m even ashamed already.
    I used to steal carefully, but right now I’m completely insolent,
    And it is already impossible not to notice my two-way circuits.

    The country has declared, like, a fight with people like me,
    But I'm still free, and here are my friends.
    Where I don’t see logic, I’m fighting this riddle,
    After all, I’m so sleeping all over Russia while I’m afraid of him
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  17. nikolas 83
    nikolas 83 14 June 2013 16: 12 New
    +6
    And what's the point of planting them? They stole from the state, well, they’ll put them in prison. And what are we supposed to keep them with our taxes? And as always, they will be released under an amnesty. Not only to shoot either at a uranium mine. am
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 14 June 2013 18: 09 New
      +5
      Quote: nikolas 83
      And what should we keep them with our taxes?

      Well, you’re talking wrong! What does "we contain them" mean? Let them work, sew, for example, they can even put their surname - “mittens from Chubais” - they will go like hot cakes as souvenirs and presents to our superiors. But to eat - only for the amount that he earned, net of taxes, utilities, security costs ... fellow
  18. pahom54
    pahom54 14 June 2013 16: 21 New
    +7
    Quote: Stock Captain
    If the fight against corruption is real, it is necessary to shoot for bribes in China.

    Even the prime minister (shot) was shot, having previously given a cigarette without a filter to smoke ... The heads must be demolished, regardless of the ranks, and especially to the snickering boyars in the Duma - to the root!
    1. nikolas 83
      nikolas 83 14 June 2013 16: 24 New
      0
      Totally agree with you. good
    2. Dimok
      Dimok 14 June 2013 17: 53 New
      +2
      And who will judge?
      Do you know at least one last name of an honest official or incorruptible judge?
      And what kind of executions and confiscations can be said when even Serdyukov was not imprisoned.
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 15 June 2013 15: 21 New
        0
        Dimok, that you smear everyone with one world, there are both honest and incorruptible ones, and there are enough of them in Russia ... There’s a misfortune at the beginning ... We’ll see how they will manage the stool .. If they let go of the world, it means that the government is corrupt from top to bottom! !! The moment of truth will come soon ...!
  19. krez-74
    krez-74 14 June 2013 16: 24 New
    10
    It has long been evident that sabotage is going on in the country! By the way, it was the same before the 37 year ...
  20. treskoed
    treskoed 14 June 2013 16: 30 New
    +8
    All "fighters" with economic crimes put on a cost accounting. Salaries and bonuses -% of funds returned for court sentence!
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 15 June 2013 15: 22 New
      0
      1000 ++++++++++++++++++++++
  21. uzer 13
    uzer 13 14 June 2013 16: 32 New
    +1
    In order to fight corruption, it is necessary to create a special state structure, endowed with the appropriate powers and independent of officials of all ranks. In the meantime, corrupt officials themselves are fighting it, because of their modest abilities, i.e. from time to time rent competitors.
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    2. sashka
      sashka 14 June 2013 16: 46 New
      +6
      Quote: uzer 13
      To fight corruption, you need to create a special state structure

      There are few prosecutors and TFR. ? What other structures? Now officials are 140 million more than there were 300 million in the USSR. Whoever wants to do it, who does not want to seek a reason. After failures with all national projects and campaign promises, the search for switchmen began. The control system and style have not changed. So you have to wait for the magic date 2020. Then everything will be built and produced. And the people are stupidly led to such a crap .. The king is good. The people and the boyars are wrong.
      1. individual
        individual 14 June 2013 19: 24 New
        +1
        It is necessary to clear the power of traders when one tradesman controls and verifies another.
        Aliens do not go here.
        And their cooperative is testing us all.
      2. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 15 June 2013 15: 27 New
        0
        In the case of "gambling by the prosecutor’s office of the gambling business," something both the UK and the prosecutor’s office are silent ...! Where are the media and tv?
  22. lm_
    lm_ 14 June 2013 16: 35 New
    +1
    Here are some more ways to fight corruption. Maybe we will hear something effective, and they will hear us somewhere above. We do not lose hope for a just world around us.
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 15 June 2013 01: 39 New
      0
      Quote: lm_
      Here are some more ways to fight corruption.

      It is impossible to steal from someone you respect)).
      If an official respects his ... and, by the way, whom should an official respect? people? the electorate?
      If the people respect ... by the way, whom should the people respect? power? country?
      If the child respects the parents.
      If the subordinate respects the leader.

      They (respected) - he will not steal!)).
  23. kind
    kind 14 June 2013 16: 36 New
    +3
    Everyone knows who is stealing from us and can not do anything with them. Theater of the absurd.
    1. Sour
      Sour 14 June 2013 17: 52 New
      +1
      I propose to shoot them all.
      The whole question is - will there be enough rounds?
      And most importantly - who will shoot? One who does not steal? You still need to find such ones.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 14 June 2013 18: 12 New
        +3
        Quote: Sour
        And most importantly - who will shoot? One who does not steal? You still need to find such ones.

        And what is the most dumb? Or are you stealing too?
        Well, call our veterans. They certainly do not flinch your hand!
      2. Zankish
        Zankish 14 June 2013 18: 35 New
        +2
        I do not steal)))
      3. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 15 June 2013 15: 36 New
        0
        You suggested, we’ll start with you - there’s no need to search ...
  24. homosum20
    homosum20 14 June 2013 16: 49 New
    +5
    This can only be if Putin himself has become a serious threat to the stealing elites. And he is not so stupid. Any elite can be overthrown only by a wave of drive of the people, and not by the will of the leader. Leaders chew and do not choke. So we can only be a threat to the elites, or rather, our passionarity, if we have it.
    Something seems to me, everything is not so scary for the elites. Or is it I just did not notice that Chubais was planted? Or was Kudrin responsible for turning the sea of ​​oil into green candy wrappers and raising the United States? That's it ...
  25. knn54
    knn54 14 June 2013 16: 50 New
    +5
    The tops can’t, the lower classes don’t want ... There are two options: the leader / dictator will seize power, who will repeat 37 years, or the bureaucrats will take power, who will surrender the country to the West. In the second case, China will “save” the Far East and, possibly, Siberia.
    And it is also important that HALF of the population have put up with this and does not even think in their thoughts that something can be achieved without a Bribe. CRIMINAL disbelief in law enforcement (we have only 1%! Of the population believes the police), education and health systems and simply the authorities.
    An honest official is someone who takes a bribe and FULFILLS the promise.
    But when they extort a bribe, that’s one thing, but if you give it yourself, it’s another.
    Corruption is not in the offices, but in our heads, and until it gets out of there, there will be no business.
    PS Putin believes that "the situation with corruption in the country has improved" ...
    It is necessary that it improves without corruption!
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 15 June 2013 01: 44 New
      0
      Quote: knn54
      power will be seized by a leader / dictator who will repeat 37years

      Moreover, the wider the support of the leader / dictator, the less "chips")).
  26. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 14 June 2013 17: 27 New
    +2
    As long as half measures are underway, that there will be no sense in the adoption of laws (the law was adopted and the confiscation was not introduced), that there will be no enforcement of them (there are persons involved but no landings). It’s naive to believe that the president doesn’t know this. or doesn’t want to. "And in war, as in war. Aren't you like you.
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 15 June 2013 00: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: s.melioxin
      there are defendants and there are no landings),

      And there are landings, take an interest. Today, every fifth of the prisoners is an official!
      1. lucidlook
        lucidlook 15 June 2013 14: 47 New
        0
        It’s time to introduce the official position of Deputy Vice President by analogy with the Deputy Chairman lol
  27. Dawn
    Dawn 14 June 2013 17: 35 New
    -2
    So his oligarchic elite with the CIA and created.
  28. Dawn
    Dawn 14 June 2013 17: 37 New
    -1
    So his oligarchic elite with the CIA and created.
  29. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 14 June 2013 17: 39 New
    +1
    slav4ikus RU
    King makes retinue

    Agree with you. I think that a crystal-clear man will never break through to the throne. In order to get there, it is necessary to “play along” with this retinue at some stage, otherwise this “retinue” will not allow to power. Well, then later, over time, the true purpose of this "campaign" in power will be visible.
    1. ded10041948
      ded10041948 14 June 2013 18: 33 New
      +3
      Something all this reminds me of the option: "Here comes the lord, the lord will judge us!"
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 15 June 2013 15: 46 New
      0
      And under Stalin, how much for fear, and how much for conscience?
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  31. Sour
    Sour 14 June 2013 17: 50 New
    0
    Quote: slav4ikus
    King makes retinue

    And who does the retinue?
    Any king (if desired) will disperse the retinue and pick up a new one. It would be a desire.
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 14 June 2013 18: 02 New
      +1
      So it’s already like “ice has broken” ...
    2. individual
      individual 14 June 2013 19: 16 New
      0
      If suites allow.
    3. CTEPX
      CTEPX 15 June 2013 01: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Sour
      Any king (if desired) will disperse the retinue and pick up a new one.

      Familiar with kings?)).
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  33. pavlo007
    pavlo007 14 June 2013 18: 59 New
    +2
    The article is another attack of senility a la Prokhanov.
    Putin is the core of the thieves' system, and therefore the main thief. They punish only those who take out of the common fund not according to the ranking. In the gangster world, for example, they do the same - discipline is needed, without it you can’t rob a country productively.
    It’s interesting when those voting for PU (except for the cops and warriors - they understand, they are like six bulls at the godfather, now they are unfastened from the common fund for 200-300 thousand rubles, so that conscience would not interfere with the people if something happens) at least understand and realize that they are nothing more than plankton for Putin and the company ... It’s true that children will pay the bills of the parent's idiots, so there will be no grandchildren anymore - 20-30 million Aboriginal people will be enough to carry out pipe maintenance.
    Alas, while Putin is alive, our perspective is Upper Volta, but, alas, without missiles ...
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 14 June 2013 21: 37 New
      0
      200-300 thousand rubles each
      Where is that ?!
      1. fisherman
        fisherman 15 June 2013 01: 43 New
        0
        the person was not going to enter into a discussion, he does not need dialogue and arguments, emotions are important to him :)
  34. individual
    individual 14 June 2013 19: 14 New
    +3
    Does Putin not see the dirt pouring down on him from his odious environment?
  35. rauffg
    rauffg 14 June 2013 19: 22 New
    +1
    fresh straight:

    Supreme court: getting money for professional duties is not a bribe
    The Supreme Court clarified the concept of “bribe”. Receiving money for performing professional skills cannot be considered a bribe, the draft resolution of the plenum of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation on bribery and corruption crimes says. - This explanation is quite logical. However, this will complicate the activities of law enforcement agencies, as they will have to more carefully prove not just the fact of transferring funds, but also that these funds were transferred in connection with a certain position, and not in connection with part-time specialists, ”Izvestia explained. lawyer, partner of the Moscow college of lawyers "Legis Group" Vladislav Kocherin. The difference is in official and professional powers. If a patient comes to the doctor, attached to this clinic, and the doctor refuses to serve him without money - this is a bribe, a lawyer cited an example. And if a patient comes "from the outside" and asks to help him privately - in this case it is not a bribe. - Previously, the authorities were ...

    further is better:
    The Supreme Court clarified the definition of bribe in Russian law. A meeting on this subject takes place in the armed forces on June 13.

    In particular, officials should not be punished for bribery if law enforcement agencies intentionally provoked them to a crime. This method of work is contrary to the law "On the operational-search activity."

    In addition, the draft resolution said that only receiving money or services for actions related to the exercise of power, organizational, administrative or administrative activities should be considered a bribe. Receiving money or services for the implementation of professional skills (for example, for treating a patient) is not a bribe.

    In addition, the document proposes to judge officials taking the so-called “kickbacks”, not only by the article “receiving a bribe”, but also by the article “embezzlement”. However, this should only happen if the cost of the state contract was overstated (that is, the executing businessman formally gave the "extra" money to the budget, and the official took it from there). If the cost was not inflated (that is, the businessman formally gave his personal money to the official), only the article “receiving a bribe” will be present in the criminal case.

    The Supreme Court also ruled that the qualification “taking a bribe by an organized group” should be applied even if only one of the participants in the crime was in the civil service.

    Finally, people who have lent money to the bribe giver, knowing that they will go to the bribe, are invited to consider as an accomplice in the article “giving a bribe”.

    By whose statement or order, the Supreme Court decided to clarify anti-corruption legislation, is not reported.

    took a bait: http://www.newsfiber.com/p/s/h?v=EXh6wWGeJrEk=+eoSbOZ8v3to=&y=
  36. Leader
    Leader 14 June 2013 19: 27 New
    +2
    It’s ridiculous to hear that all this thieves' bureaucratic “elite” is Putin’s circle. And the closer "to the body", the more thieving. Is Putin a saint? Ust-Luga port is one of its enterprises: grandiose construction, huge investments. Therefore, such a ur ... I will not give anything like Serdyukov - he is a protege of the Putin clique.
    Yeltsin removed from the Criminal Code such a thing as "confiscation of the stolen goods" - this is where all the trouble comes from.
    Under such conditions, fighting corruption and embezzlement is a meaningless exercise.
    In my opinion, most Russians understand this very well - hence the general “nonsense”!
    Start the war now - no one will defend such a homeland ...
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 15 June 2013 01: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: Leader
      Start the war now - no one will defend such a homeland ...

      The hopes of young men feed ...
      Hopes of the Anglo-Saxons rod ...
  37. Leader
    Leader 14 June 2013 19: 27 New
    +2
    It’s ridiculous to hear that all this thieves' bureaucratic “elite” is Putin’s circle. And the closer "to the body", the more thieving. Is Putin a saint? Ust-Luga port is one of its enterprises: grandiose construction, huge investments. Therefore, such a ur ... I will not give anything like Serdyukov - he is a protege of the Putin clique.
    Yeltsin removed from the Criminal Code such a thing as "confiscation of the stolen goods" - this is where all the trouble comes from.
    Under such conditions, fighting corruption and embezzlement is a meaningless exercise.
    In my opinion, most Russians understand this very well - hence the general “nonsense”!
    Start the war now - no one will defend such a homeland ...
  38. Revolver
    Revolver 14 June 2013 19: 41 New
    +1
    Under Stalin, there was much less corruption, and much more was given for it, regardless of rank or merit. When General Kryukov brought a couple of wagons of unreached trophies from Germany, he was stripped of his title and awards and sent to camps for 25 years, plus 5 “by the horns”. True, then, under Khrushchev, at the suggestion of Zhukov, he was rehabilitated as "innocently repressed," but they did not return him. And several generals were shot.
    And under Andropov, corruption was well-groomed, including at the highest level (Shchelokov - Minister of the Interior, Medunov - 1st Secretary of the Regional Committee and a member of the Central Committee, Rashidov - 1st Secretary of the Central Committee of Uzbekistan, and a whole bunch of thieves with lower ranks).
    But in order to start such a fight against corruption, Putin will have to re-open the shooting guns (most likely not all were sent for re-melting or sold cheaply to America). And most importantly, to find someone who can, as the English words aptly put it, fill the shoes (to fill shoes, in the sense of adequately replacing) comrade. Beria. Well, or at least Comrade. Chebrikova.
  39. Revolver
    Revolver 14 June 2013 19: 41 New
    0
    Under Stalin, there was much less corruption, and much more was given for it, regardless of rank or merit. When General Kryukov brought a couple of wagons of unreached trophies from Germany, he was stripped of his title and awards and sent to camps for 25 years, plus 5 “by the horns”. True, then, under Khrushchev, at the suggestion of Zhukov, he was rehabilitated as "innocently repressed," but they did not return him. And several generals were shot.
    And under Andropov, corruption was well-groomed, including at the highest level (Shchelokov - Minister of the Interior, Medunov - 1st Secretary of the Regional Committee and a member of the Central Committee, Rashidov - 1st Secretary of the Central Committee of Uzbekistan, and a whole bunch of thieves with lower ranks).
    But in order to start such a fight against corruption, Putin will have to re-open the shooting guns (most likely not all were sent for re-melting or sold cheaply to America). And most importantly, to find someone who can, as the English words aptly put it, fill the shoes (to fill shoes, in the sense of adequately replacing) comrade. Beria. Well, or at least Comrade. Chebrikova.
  40. sergeschern
    sergeschern 14 June 2013 19: 54 New
    +8
    Put article minus. Well, what kind of fight against corruption can we talk about? If the “redhead” walks with his head, the “stool” can generally become the “injured, deceived” party, and the “people’s representatives” can become multimillionaires. Prosecutors were roofing these gambling houses (by the way, how did it end there? -Surely nothing!) And at the Zvyozdochka security enterprise, two "left Objects" suddenly appeared in the secret workshop. Well, what can I talk about? I list what is heard: Skolkovo, Olympic venues, Glonass, Oboronservis. And then suddenly the most corrupt villain Navalny! Atu him! To the question, “and who are the judges”, here's a look at our Themis, so its rastak!
  41. Avenger711
    Avenger711 14 June 2013 19: 55 New
    +2
    Plant, shoot.
  42. pinecone
    pinecone 14 June 2013 20: 54 New
    0
    There is virtually no one to restore order. The whole system of government is corrupt, from top to bottom, both vertically and horizontally, including the courts, law enforcement agencies, "power structures", etc.
    In this regard, the experience of Italy, in which an anti-corruption campaign called Clean Hands began in 1992, during which hundreds of government officials, politicians and entrepreneurs suspected of breaking the law were arrested and brought to trial, was very revealing. However, after numerous facts of direct participation in all kinds of abuses of the highest officials of the state began to be revealed during investigative and judicial proceedings, the campaign stopped.
  43. lexe
    lexe 14 June 2013 21: 04 New
    0
    It’s too simple to put bribe takers to the wall. Let’s recall how debts were knocked out in the 90s.
    We will consider the entire volume of bribes to be a credit to the people. We must repay the loan. First, declare it, take part of the surplus and oblige it to work honestly in our position or with a reduction of 10-20 years of work without a single penalty and with accelerated fulfillment of all plans. I have not fulfilled the plan. .. well then you and the road ... to the mine. And this applies only to the junior-middle link. Just because there are still a lot of people with families in today's link - the bureaucratic apparatus is inflated. And the system of controlling the accounting of expenses through there are credit cards in the world — you need a total non-cash and a tight database security system. Of course, non-cash fraught with 100 rubles you can’t put a child in ice cream. But someday corruption will kill us.
  44. sergey261180
    sergey261180 14 June 2013 21: 46 New
    0
    Their tasks radically diverge from those declared by Putin

    As in a bad collective farm: either the bull is tired, then x did not get up. laughing
  45. Alf
    Alf 14 June 2013 22: 14 New
    +3
    Quote: Stock Captain
    If the fight against corruption is real, it is necessary to shoot for bribes in China.

    It's not gonna go. Firstly, there will not be enough cartridges, and secondly (cartridges can be bought in China, horseradish, but many) we will remain without officials.
    I suggest the third way, the stealing bureaucrat, not to shoot and not to plant, but simply to confiscate the stolen one time, another, third. Maybe after the third confiscation, he will wash that it’s not necessary, they will take everything away anyway. Only it is necessary to confiscate not only from him, but also from his wife, granddaughter, bugs.
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 14 June 2013 22: 37 New
      +1
      Confiscators will get tired hands laughing
    2. lexe
      lexe 14 June 2013 23: 10 New
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      confiscate stolen-time, another, third.

      Why do we need such a whirlpool in nature laughing
      Amnesty and up to the 2nd time. But first squeeze out his wife and granddaughter. laughing - so that I will not be angry. And citizens work under total control and with full dedication.
  46. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 14 June 2013 22: 45 New
    +1
    who didn’t manage to sleep is not a corruptionist, but who managed to take it for an ass and who shared it is as if guilty but he is not guilty
  47. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 14 June 2013 22: 47 New
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    everyone needs to be like that then everyone will be happy
  48. darksoul
    darksoul 14 June 2013 22: 54 New
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    We have a tsar, Vladimir alone, a little sunshine ... around the woof ... but it’s swimming, corruption, the bureaucrat is homeless, and he is fighting with them alone, there is a lot of window dressing, efficiency (real exhaust from this) = 0. Recently, our Krasnodar was shown on state channels , they told me about how much homelessness is going on in illegal housing, the whole city was built up with shit .... they are building an illegally healthy house of 5-7 floors on the site of a purchased private house, and then they transfer it from the illegal building to a legal one, nonsense ... through court perhaps? and perhaps very simply ... everyone knows ... the administration loot is charged, they allocate 100 administration apartments from their housing stock .... is it not enough? people can throw a bunch of such bright ideas where and with whom to fight, because they have already been stolen so much that they are not afraid of anything, and Putin’s messages about fighting corruption, in my opinion, encourage them to steal even more
  49. papas-57
    papas-57 15 June 2013 00: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: w.ebdo.g
    It's time to start acting ... apparently next year everything will begin.


    And so every year this phrase is heard again
  50. ded10041948
    ded10041948 15 June 2013 01: 05 New
    +2
    Until they restore the laws of the USSR (confiscation, capital punishment, etc.) there will be no sense! The Duma, officials and other scum very carefully hedged, adopting laws to protect themselves, loved ones. And it is necessary to repeal the law of Khrushchev on the jurisdiction of the top.