Syrian militants fired on the crew of the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company near the Golan Heights

The crew of a special correspondent of the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company in Syria, Yevgeny Poddubny, was shot at by Syrian opposition militants on their way to the Golan Heights. This site reports "Vesti.ru" with reference to the journalist.
According to him, the film crew today in the convoy of soldiers from Syria moved to the checkpoint "Charlie", where the UN peacekeepers and the observation point of the Syrian soldiers.

"Militants ambushed on the road and opened fire on cars, the battle started. The column was attacked from both sides and shot, primarily at civilians. After about 15 minutes, journalists under the guise of the military managed to withdraw to the“ Charlie ”post, the correspondent reported. He does not specify whether there are victims in this incident.

The terrain at the checkpoint is considered to be a buffer zone; soldiers cannot use heavy weapons here and carry out large-scale stripping operations. In turn, the militants are hiding in the villages on neutral territory and carry out attacks, attacking military and civilians in Syria.

Two days ago, Syrian militants fired at the Golan. As a result of the attack, two peacekeepers suffered. In addition, in the region more than once they were taken hostage by the foreign military. Peacekeepers from Canada, Croatia and Japan have already left the region. The withdrawal of the contingent hastily and Austria.

Comments

[valokordin]

Syrian bastards, and swoop down on the response of the Russian Armed Forces

[Sakhalininsk]

Yes there are Syrians, then three cripples in two rows ... in a word, a bunch of people worthy only of destruction, because rabid animals are not treated to destroy them.

[sergo0000]

Quote: Sakhalininets

Yes there are Syrians, then three cripples in two rows ... in a word, a bunch of people worthy only of destruction, because rabid animals are not treated to destroy them.

Who knows if our peacekeepers will be there or not !?

[Professor]

Quote: sergo0000

Who knows if our peacekeepers will be there or not !?

Today, a local radio reported that Israel did not agree to host Russian peacekeepers despite a telephone conversation between Putin and Bibi. IMHO now there is a bargain.

[Komodo]

The people, but how about Afghanistan?
Is everything calculated, explored, verified? For political traps, traps?
And then we shove, and p ... we are just waiting for this.
Peacekeeping is certainly a good thing, but GDP, just make no mistake.

[Day 11]

We have all the moves calculated.

[Day 11]

Afraid, because how Russian just to kill is fraught with consequences!

[Professor]

Quote: Den 11

Afraid, because how Russian just to kill is fraught with consequences!

Nobody is afraid as peacekeepers are not going to kill Israel. The presence of peacekeepers in Israel is beneficial. In order to frighten the consequences, it is necessary at least to compile and make public the exact lists of the dead over the past 20 years.

PS
Consequences: Some of the killings of Russians receive the title of Hero of Russia - a paradox.

[bask]

Quote: professor

Consequences: Some of the killings of Russians receive the title of Hero of Russia - a paradox.

So they should make up the BONE, contingent of peacekeeping forces !!!
Prove the loyalty of Russia and personally GDP.
The contingent should consist exclusively of immigrants from the S. Caucasus and Dagestan.

[Maks111]

The contingent should consist exclusively of immigrants from the S. Caucasus and Dagestan.

What would they go to help establish democracy in Syria?

[Day 11]

Not a fact! Here it depends on how to present

[datur]

[quote = Max111] [quote] The contingent should consist exclusively of immigrants from the S. Caucasus and Dagestan. [/ Quote] What would they go to help establish democracy in Syria? and what- battalions ,, EAST ,, + WEST THERE as peacekeepers, most !!!!

[Lynx]

Quote: professor

Consequences: Some of the killings of Russians receive the title of Hero of Russia - a paradox.

Yes. And their names are the streets in the capital. And real heroes are stripped of all awards, titles and killed in the center of the same capital before the Day of Russia. And the first persons of the state ride at this time on a lisapet and do not comment on the situation.
No less paradox.

Quote: bask

So they should make up the BONE, contingent of peacekeeping forces !!!
Prove the loyalty of Russia and personally GDP.
The contingent should consist exclusively of immigrants from the S. Caucasus and Dagestan.

+ 100500!

[zvereok]

It is curious that the Russians will be peacekeepers and shoot (in accordance with their direct duties) at Hezbala ally of Assad? Assad seems to have allowed Hezbal to operate in that area.

Or is this not peacekeeping? Explain that the cat understands at least something in this initiative?

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

Afraid, because how Russian just to kill is fraught with consequences!

Just a hypothetical question. The observers from Russia died, not even in a mine, but directly, from the fire of militants. (observers do not have weapons, and will not)
Russia's actions?

[Day 11]

And what would you do? Carpet bombing, in agreement with the Syrian side! What would the living envy the dead!

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

And what would you do? Carpet bombing, in agreement with the Syrian side! What would the living envy the dead!

Ie the Russian contingent of the UN will bomb? On this, probably the discussion should be stopped. With such conclusions, please transfer to GUESTS AT A TALE.
I thought from you to hear something more serious,

[Day 11]

But what kind of contingent? We have a "base" there, and you can find an airfield for it (agree with Bashar, no problem). That's it, then we transfer the airplanes and turn everyone into minced meat!

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

What kind of contingent? We have a "base" there, you can find an airfield for it (

then what does UN have to do with it, what prevents it from doing this simply by concluding a mutual assistance agreement?

Quote: Den 11

Everything, then we transfer the airplanes and turn everyone into mincemeat

Who will you bomb?

[datur]

atalef
Who will you bomb? - Yes, if you need to, then you too, but what?

[Mairos]

In the event of a civil war, "bombing the stuffing" is complete absurdity. There are anti-partisan actions of need - special forces, reconnaissance, turntables, people's militia and precision weapons of all types.

[Pimply]

To get started, get acquainted with the UN mandate given to peacekeepers and the restrictions that it imposes.

[datur]

Are observers not entitled to self-defense?

[Pimply]

For self-defense - yes. To intervene in the conflict, going beyond their powers - no

[datur]

[quote = Pimpled] For self-defense - yes. To intervene in the conflict, going beyond their authority - no --------- but where is the border? here in Georgia ,, rodent peacekeepers ,, guided Georgian artillery to the positions of their colleagues? Yes, and they themselves participated in the war? need to endure?

[Pimply]

It is very clearly stated in the mandate.

[datur]

[quote = Pimpled] Is it very clearly spelled out in the mandate, is it not funny after this war?

[datur]

[quote = atalef] [quote = Den 11] What would you do? Carpet bombing, in agreement with the Syrian side! So that the living would envy the dead! [/ quote]
Ie the Russian contingent of the UN will bomb? On this, probably the discussion should be stopped. With such conclusions, please transfer to GUESTS AT A TALE.
I thought from you to hear something more serious, - I think if we somehow bombed, then we have the right to destroy these cattle !!!!!

[v53993]

If you have something against carpet bombing, then they can be replaced with a square-nested treatment "Grad-G".

[atalef]

Quote: v53993

If you have something against carpet bombing, then they can be replaced with a square-nested treatment "Grad-G".

Yes only, only whom will you bomb.

[v53993]

Some presumptuous representatives of your state, since you yourself cannot deal with them. Well, and the fact that when the forest is cut down - chips fly, then, alas, production costs.

[atalef]

Quote: v53993

Some presumptuous representatives of your state, since you yourself cannot deal with them.

Oh well. Who is this exactly? And in response, nothing will fly?

[datur]

[quote = atalef] [quote = v53993] Some presumptuous representatives of your state, since you yourself cannot deal with them. [/ quote]
Oh well. Who is this exactly? And in response, nothing will fly? -the Jews declare war RUSSIA? ye -ye !!!

[Tambov we ...]

Arrives, I have no doubt ... And I'm afraid - it will be difficult to remove shit, and it stinks from him for a long time.

[datur]

[quote = atalef] [quote = v53993] If you have something against carpet bombing, then they can be replaced with a square-nested treatment "Grad-G". [/ quote]
Yes, only for whom you will bomb. -- and you? (brave Jews) that brave rodents !!!! at 08 08 08 !!!!

[old man54]

fishermen - mud ... s with fishing rods, who are fishing in the Syrian golan !!! :))))))))

[Pimply]

This is the UN supervisory contingent. With strictly limited authority.

[Day 11]

Is it a MILITARY contingent? Then what functions does it perform? What did they run from there? Are there any answers?

[Pimply]

OBSERVATIONAL.

[Day 11]

Why watch there? Mountains? The sense of them ...

[Pimply]

The objectives of UNDOA include:
General buffer monitoring
Monitoring Israeli and Syrian military presence in the region
Suppression of attempts to introduce the armed forces of the parties into the UNDOF zone
Regular (once every two weeks) inspections of Israeli and Syrian military installations in areas bordering the zone
Assistance to the International Red Cross in the transportation of local residents, mail and medicine
Mine clearance

The reason for the presence of peacekeepers in the region is that UNDOF helps Israel and Syria to be sure that both sides are observing a peace agreement to limit military forces in the Golan Heights, and that no one is secretly deploying additional tank divisions and troops. In this way, UN peacekeepers observe, but do not intervene. As for their powers, they can carry weapons, but they never use them. This is the basis of their principle of peacekeeping missions. Their task is to ensure peace, and not give cause for war. The following rule applies to all peacekeepers: with the start of hostilities or the request of one of the parties to leave, observers immediately leave their control zone.

[datur]

[quote = Pimpled] OBSERVATIONAL - what, thump and hookah smoke like?

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

Is this a MILITARY contingent?

Not military

Quote: Den 11

Then what functions does it perform?

Observes and their functions are clearly defined

Quote: Den 11

What did they run from there?

in case of a threat to the life of the country's observers, those who sent them have every right to recall them. ensuring the safety of observers is entrusted to the country in which they are located.

[YARY]

Dear Denis. In our last contact with the Israeli Armed Forces, they are sorry, but I can’t write in any other way, they put the company on the threshold of the USSR embassy. And nothing washed. And then, unlike the current one, the government was not soft (by today's standards).
Here, if for someone small in the direction of the state, as in the automatic mode, the response by bombs and missiles was .....
After the first time, to all shmumlahs and smiths and other attributes of a hefty turnip, scratching nadot bulo before thinking up.

[Atlon]

Quote: professor

Today, local radio reported that Israel did not agree to host Russian peacekeepers

Who is Israel ?! Such issues are resolved in the UN Security Council! As for the peacekeepers: Consultations and agreements are underway. This is Putin's initiative. On the one hand, we can cut off the supply of aid to "insurgent" terrorists from Israel, on the other, "protect" Israel from war. It is obvious that Russia is using "double standards" (teachers are good!). And do not dig ... Type of Jews to protect! And the Jews either need to agree, or admit that they are supplying rabble warring in Syria! The dilemma, however ... However, as I said: Who is Israel ?!

[Professor]

Quote: Atlon

Who is Israel ?! Such issues are resolved in the UN Security Council! As for peacekeepers: Consultations and coordination are underway.

You are not up to date. Without the consent of Israel, no peacemaker will set foot on the Golan. These are the rules sir.

[Day 11]

I don’t give a damn about the rules! Do you do a lot by the rules? Are we RUSSIA or where?

[Pimply]

Do you know how much war costs?

[Andrey Skokovsky]

in general, with such an approach, we could also send some sort of proponents to Abkhazia and Ossetia
I don’t know the procedure exactly, but some kind of consent of the hostile parties to specific peacekeepers is required, at least formal as recently as in Mali
if Israel is categorically against the presence of the Russian peacekeeping contingent, then no one will let him go there

[Day 11]

Let’s not go down to the dirt! I got the impression that all normal and sensible Jews went to the historical, and here there is one r ... but who have only one thing in their eyes --- to snatch, fuck ... fuck ... Th! And according to our conclusions, we draw conclusions about everyone! Among them there are also adequates (which are there). I’ll tell you one story that goes into legend: One of us was Moysha (Misha) at the factory as a CLASS specialist milling and milling specialist! So people of their nationality came to him and said, Moysha (Misha) do not disgrace the nation, we will give you a place of bread, leave here!

[Atlon]

Quote: Den 11

Moysha (Misha) do not disgrace the nation, we will give you a place of bread, leave here!

"When I was little, I dreamed of being a sailor. I came home and told my mother:" Mom, I will be a sailor when I grow up! "My poor mother looked at me sadly, and then took a drin and whipped my little Jewish ass." A Jew cannot be a sailor! "- my mother was saying, knocking the crap out of me. When I grew up, I realized how right she was!"
(film "The Life and Adventures of Mishka Yaponchik")

[Pimply]

Especially taking into account how many Jews in Odessa were bindjacks then ...

[Atlon]

Quote: Pimply

how many Jews in Odessa then were bindyuzhnikami.

And how much? Traditionally, the fishermen were Greeks. Workers (including loaders in the port) and peasants Russians, Ukrainians. And at Privoz, Jews were almost completely traded ... This is one of those who are simpler ... And who is abruptly, are bankers, jewelers, antique dealers ...

[il grand casino]

Hmm ... My grandfather was a director at a factory in Odessa. He had half the workers were Jews. It’s strange. Probably Russians just pretended ...

[RUSSIA 2013]

Quote: Atlon

Quote: Pimply

how many Jews in Odessa then were bindyuzhnikami.

And how much? Traditionally, the fishermen were Greeks. Workers (including loaders in the port) and peasants Russians, Ukrainians. And at Privoz, Jews were almost completely traded ... This is one of those who are simpler ... And who is abruptly, are bankers, jewelers, antique dealers ...

As in a joke. A Jew comes to work to get a job, all the vacancies are occupied, they offer him a janitor with a shovel, he asks for a shovel with a motor, he is told where you saw a shovel with a motor, and he and where you saw a Jew with a shovel.

[il grand casino]

stay in Odessa. in the house where my grandfather lived, the janitor was Uncle Yasha - a Jew.

[datur]

[quote = Atlon] [quote = Pupyrchaty] how many Jews in Odessa then were bindyuzhnikami. [/ quote]
And how much? Traditionally, the fishermen were Greeks. Workers (including loaders in the port) and peasants Russians, Ukrainians. And at Privoz, Jews were almost completely traded ... This is one of those who are simpler ... And who is better, they are bankers, jewelers, antique dealers ...-- NOT WELL ODESSA, this is a pearl by the sea !!!

[Aaron Zawi]

Yes, Jews and the sea are "incompatible" things.
Although vskidku. It seems compatible.

In total, 170 submarines of the USSR Navy participated in the hostilities during the Great Patriotic War. On 27, Jews served as commanders:
Israel Fisanovich, Joseph Izrailevich, Grigory Kukuy, Isai Zelbst, Alexander Kautsky, Vladimir Konovalov, Samuel Bogorad, Arkady Moiseev, Ilya Brown, Eduard Brodsky, Isaac Kabo, Roman Lindenberg, Yakov Khmelnitsky, Joseph Yudovich, Benzion Buensky, Moysensky Buyansky, Mensky Buensky, , Sergey Mogilevsky, Israel Sivorinovsky, Adolf Reznikov, Abram Temin, Israel Bykhovsky, Eugene Rastochil, Abram Alexandrovsky, Vasily Komarov, Grigory Goldberg, Boris Margolin. Three of them were submarine brigade commanders and one was a division commander.

[v53993]

Without the consent of Israel, no peacemaker will set foot on the Golan

Then a simple Russian soldier sets foot. And well set foot.

[il grand casino]

The question is how to transfer there a sufficient number of ordinary Russian soldiers. I am now purely in terms of logistics

[Day 11]

Elementary, Watson! Here we need the Black Sea Fleet! And the BTA?

[Captain Vrungel]

The stupid rulers of Canada, Croatia, Japan and even Austria are taking their peacekeepers out of the hot spot. The life of the citizens of their state is above all.
Why yell, fired on the crew. In war, as in war. They shoot. Do not climb where you do not.
Where did the second-hand intelligence colonel from Sevastopol disappear, who threw out a call for hiring volunteers in Syria "I am changing the life of Slav volunteers for living space in Syria."
Patriots calling to send peacekeepers to the Golan Heights, form a battalion of yourself and your loved ones. It’s good to manage other people's lives and be a patriot. sitting in your office or flipping on the clave.
Help with the equipment, weapons, supplies, but not strangers to you, the lives of their citizens.

[Pimply]

But he did not disappear. He continues to PR on this subject. And he wants to grab the dough - he’s looking for sponsors for all this.

[Atrix]

Quote: Captain Vrungel

Patriots calling to send peacekeepers to the Golan Heights, form a battalion of yourself and your loved ones. It’s good to manage other people's lives and be a patriot. sitting in your office or flipping on the clave.
Help with the equipment, weapons, supplies, but not strangers to you, the lives of their citizens.

You know, I have already suggested this to "patriots" who are so dear to Syria and Assad, let them go and take their sons, fathers, brothers and then tell how it is there to lose their loved ones in the war. But I was given a bunch of minuses and I realized that there were no people willing to go to protect Assad and his regime, but there are many people who want to send other people's children to die in a foreign land.

[pakfa-t-50]

but who awakens these Israelites and should?

[Pimply]

Well, if Russia claims the UN mandate, then it is.

[datur]

Pimpled - and what you do not like our PEACEKEEPERS ???

[atalef]

Quote: datur

Pimpled - and what you do not like our PEACEKEEPERS ???

Because Russia is interested in this conflict. pay attention that the Israeli is not seeking observers from either NATO or the USA, why, because they are not objective either (and the Rafah checkpoint is an example) As it was - let it remain. Yapi, Austria and Nepal. They are at least objective

[Day 11]

Duck, run Sasha, run the first shot! Which of them are fighters? If only the Vietnamese were put there or the North Koreans (by the way, let them also take part in establishing peace on the planet). There would be more sense!

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

how are they running, Sasha, they are running at the first shot! Which of them are fighters? If only the Vietnamese were put there or the North Koreans (by the way, let them also take part in establishing peace on the planet). There would be more sense!

because normal countries think primarily about the lives of their soldiers, and they definitely do not want to die for Syria. in contrast to the first-order. Do you feel sorry for your soldiers?

[Baboon]

Why are you talking about the first-winged patriot, of course. Do you think there are such soulless people sitting there?

[Day 11]

No Sanya, now it’s already a matter of principle! (I'm sorry that is crony). Either we bring down all the devils and Bashar doesn’t blame the word against you, or we are a ch.

[datur]

atalef == who are you talking about? about the so-called Muslim fighters? [quote = datur] [quote = Pupyrchaty] Peacekeepers should be neutral, otherwise it is an undermining of confidence in the UN as a structure, and an additional factor of instability. Russia is not neutral .-- Is it? Yes, we are the most neutral among the neutral !!! -At least one example of a violation by RUSSIA of international rules?

[atalef]

Quote: datur

Yes, we are the most neutral among the neutral !!

Come on . The most neutral are at least not part of the military blocs.

Quote: datur

- at least one example of a violation by RUSSIA of the International Rules

Please specify what you mean by international rules?
Contracts, laws, regulations.
Ratified by most countries of the world (and not ratified by Russia) or accepted by Russia, but not accepted by other countries. What are we talking about. Just as an example

The State Duma has ratified the Council of Europe Convention on the Protection of Children from SSYUALNO Exploitation. The document was adopted with six reservations exempting Russia from the introduction of criminal offenses under a number of articles, including for the production of o.r.n.o-animation and the use of o.r.n.o-content. In the opinion of spravoorussov, this "emasculates" the meaning of the document.

why is child porn content a crime in Europe but not in Russia, or
Ottawa Treaty or

Convention on the Prohibition of Anti-Personnel Mines - an agreement on the prohibition of the use, stockpiling, production and transfer of anti-personnel mines and on their destruction.

Russia (as well as another 35 state-ins have not signed) and, accepted 142

Cluster munition conventions. It was officially adopted by 107 countries. This has made the Convention an international legally binding agreement banning cluster munitions that cause unnecessary damage to civilians.

Russia has not joined
You can also recall the 3rd Protocol to the Geneva Convention on the use of phosphorus-containing ammunition. Russia did not join the same.
This is a tiny part. So, specify what you mean.

[Baboon]

I specifically for you in Serbia. I can write this too. Maybe we will not move away from the topic?

[Pimply]

The following rule applies to all peacekeepers: with the start of hostilities or the request of one of the parties to leave, observers immediately leave their control zone.

[datur]

[quote = atalef] [quote = datur] Pimpled - and what you do not like our PEACEKEEPERS A ??? [/ quote]
Because Russia is interested in this conflict. pay attention that the Israeli is not seeking observers from either NATO or the USA, why, because they are not objective either (and the Rafah checkpoint is an example) As it was - let it remain. Yapi, Austria and Nepal. They are at least objective [/ quote]
[quote = Pupyrchaty] The following rule applies to all peacekeepers: with the start of hostilities or the request of one of the parties to leave, the observers immediately leave their control zone .--------- the question is why did the rodents start shelling exactly the -Russian peacekeepers - from all the trunks? and on their tip?

[Pimply]

Do not hysteria. We are talking about a specific mandate for specific peacekeeping forces in the Golan. And, in particular, we are talking about the powers of the UN forces

[datur]

[quote = atalef] [quote = datur] Pimpled - and what you do not like our PEACEKEEPERS A ??? [/ quote]
Because Russia is interested in this conflict. pay attention that the Israeli is not seeking observers from either NATO or the USA, why, because they are not objective either (and the Rafah checkpoint is an example) As it was - let it remain. Yapi, Austria and Nepal. They are at least objective --- I think that the battle of our Marines will solve all this cat fuss !!!

[avant-garde]

Israel is written with a small letter because this name is not proper, but American !!!!

[timurpl]

Quote: professor

IMHO now there is a bargain.

Nefig bargain, so give them a dvorkovich ...

[Maks111]

Today, a local radio reported that Israel did not agree to host Russian peacekeepers despite a telephone conversation between Putin and Bibi.

And did you really think that Israel would allow the military from the Russian Federation to be placed under the nose?))))) Do you seriously think that our peacekeepers will be allowed into the Golan Heights?

[Delink]

http://www.inosmi.ru/world/20130608/209832019.html
So far, only discussions

[RUSSIA 2013]

Quote: sergo0000

Quote: Sakhalininets

Yes there are Syrians, then three cripples in two rows ... in a word, a bunch of people worthy only of destruction, because rabid animals are not treated to destroy them.

Who knows if our peacekeepers will be there or not !?

According to the UN resolution, the permanent members of the Security Council cannot send their peacekeepers, but our government believes that this resolution is long outdated, the question is being decided which result we are looking at, I think it’s not a resolution that’s just the West and (friends of Syria) are afraid of our guys being present, but I think there is a chance that our blue helmets are present, since the peacekeepers of Canada, Croatia, Japan are already at home, Austria is on the way, if this goes well then soon there will be no one left.

[Pimply]

Peacekeepers must be neutral, otherwise it is an undermining of confidence in the UN as a structure, and an additional factor of instability. Russia is not neutral.

[datur]

[quote = Pupyrchaty] Peacekeepers must be neutral, otherwise it is an undermining of confidence in the UN as a structure, and an additional factor of instability. Russia is not neutral .-- Is it? Yes, we are the most neutral among the neutral !!!

[Phantom Revolution]

Quote: sergo0000

Who knows if our peacekeepers will be there or not !?

Yes and no, everyone is set to overthrow too much is at stake.

[v53993]

all set to overthrow too much at stake

But I, for one, am not configured. And he didn’t put anything at stake.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: sergo0000

Who knows if our peacekeepers will be there or not !?

Everything will depend on the likely decision of the Security Council. Whether they allow it or not, that’s the question. And there is also the consent of Israel and Syria is necessary. Who do you think pays for the maintenance of peacekeepers?

[GreatRussia]

The crew of a special correspondent of the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company in Syria, Yevgeny Poddubny, was shot at by Syrian opposition militants on their way to the Golan Heights. This site reports "Vesti.ru" with reference to the journalist.

This is how the journalist differs from the liberal "couch-cabinet" magazines who have occupied the Russian "air".

[Captain]

Ours I do not know, but it is necessary to hurry with this question, young Padawan, for the forces of evil are up to something! :)

"US infantrymen from Expeditionary Force 26 arrived in the Jordanian port of Aqaba early last week, MIGnews.com reports with reference to Iranian PressTV.

The Americans "under a strong Jordanian escort" were transferred to the border with Syria. Washington and Amman refuse to comment on reports on the number and activities of the US military in the kingdom. "

[v53993]

Americans "under a strong Jordanian escort" thrown to the border with Syria

And under whose escort will they go abroad?

[Captain]

I suppose, as always, the local "meat" and the Saudi-Qatari military will be storming, and they will coordinate it and sometimes interfere, as in Libya.

[Apollo]

Having carefully read the info, I had the opinion that:

1.Militants probably knew the crew of the VGTRK is located in the convoy, which indicates that the agents of the militants are working, and maybe even the trace leads to the top leadership of Syria. Surely there is a double agent in the leadership of Syria. The thing is about the movement of the crew and the goal the trip knew a limited circle of people. Will you say randomness, in my opinion, hardly ?!
2: The aim of the militants, also clear as a clear day, is to destroy the film crew and cause cooling in relations between Syria and Russia, due to the lack of security for journalists.

Conclusion, once again confirmed the thesis that this is not the opposition but the real thugs and terrorists who are fighting with journalists.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: sergo0000

will our peacekeepers be there or

Neither, the UN Charter and the Golan agreement prohibit. The Israelis will not allow the presence of the interested party. And it would not be bad at all: to establish a radar monitoring the air situation in this region, so that at the slightest incident our specialists would show on their fingers: here is the Air Force The IDF violated the sovereign airspace, in this zone they fired control weapons --- but photographic evidence of the destruction. Israel will not agree to such a thing. Expected ...

[Atlon]

Quote: Apollon

The militants probably knew about the fact that in the convoy, there was a film crew of VGTRK.

Fantasy ...

Quote: Apollon

This suggests that the agents of the militants are working, and maybe even a trace leads to the top leadership of Syria

Dreams?

Quote: Apollon

Surely in the leadership of Syria, a double agent is sitting.

Insinuations or dreams anyway?

Quote: Apollon

The fact is that a limited circle of people knew about the movement of the film crew and the purpose of the trip

And what is so secret about the movements of journalists?

Quote: Apollon

You will say randomness

Exactly. In addition, journalists SPECIALLY stand out from the military, and it is not difficult to make them out with binoculars or an optical sight.

Quote: Apollon

The goal of the militants, also clear as a clear day, is to destroy the film crew and cause a cooling in relations between Syria and Russia, due to the lack of security for journalists.

And forgive me, this is completely nonsense ... If you think that the militants think so, then in your opinion they just go-oh-you!

[Apollo]

Quote: Atlon

Atlon

You reminded me of one teacher who, too, at one time, during my studies at the university, possessed but only meager imagination and carried out frank nonsense. I agree with your quotation and add finished.

Quote: Atlon

go oh you!

[APASUS]

Quote: Apollon

.The goal of the militants, also clear as a clear day, is to destroy the film crew and cause cooling in relations between Syria and Russia, due to the lack of security for journalists.

So film crews do not destroy.
The logical end of the whole opposition is coming and they are rushing around the country in search of a weak spot, trying to draw the very Israel on their side!

[Pimply]

Journalists moved as part of a military convoy in a zone of active hostilities. Well, what a deliberate attack is on them. Are you kidding me?

[datur]

[quote = Pupyrchaty] Journalists moved as part of a military convoy in a zone of active military operations. Well, what a deliberate attack is on them. Are you kidding me? Pimpled-- nerves, old man, nerves !!! you then calm down !!! we don’t touch you yet !!

[v53993]

I believe that specially trained military journalists should be sent to Syria, preferably organized in an enhanced special forces group.

[datur]

[quote = Apollon] After carefully reading the info, I had the opinion that:

1.Militants probably knew the crew of the VGTRK is located in the convoy, which indicates that the agents of the militants are working, and maybe even the trace leads to the top leadership of Syria. Surely there is a double agent in the leadership of Syria. The thing is about the movement of the crew and the goal the trip knew a limited circle of people. Will you say randomness, in my opinion, hardly ?!
2: The aim of the militants, also clear as a clear day, is to destroy the film crew and cause cooling in relations between Syria and Russia, due to the lack of security for journalists.

Conclusion, once again confirmed the thesis that this is not the opposition but the real thugs and terrorists who are fighting with journalists - if they would have failed, then the West would have sung nukes - about the destruction of the Russian group! - but they do not know that there are special forces groups !!!! which these freaks just-liquidate !!!!

[RUSSIA 2013]

Israel is to blame for the shelling of the Golans, just as it is on its territory, it provides medical assistance to the militants, and it is beneficial for Israel that there is tension in the Golan, between government forces and militants, if Israel were honest with Syria. It would organize an extrusion raid militants from neutral territory, even in conjunction with the Syrian army.

[APASUS]

Quote: RUSSIA 2013

if Israel were honest with Syria, it would organize a raid on squeezing militants from neutral territory

What are you talking about!?
Israel is one of the parties to the conflict! Although Israel is pursuing its goals, it has virtually supported the opposition of Syria. They will find spy equipment, bombing or a communications machine, and all this is directly directed against Syria.
Here you have the stones with the mark Made in Israel

[atalef]

Quote: APASUS

Here you have the stones with the stigma of Made in Israel

brand where?

[APASUS]

Quote: atalef

brand where?

There in the equipment lay an Israeli passport and a telephone where to turn!
Your requirements for spyware are ridiculous !!
Although such a picture was printed even in the Israeli press ........

[atalef]

Quote: APASUS

There in the equipment lay an Israeli passport and a telephone where to turn!

Your requirements for spyware are ridiculous !!

In general, we certainly spy - and rightly so. Or have the SVRi GRU been disbanded in Russia?
And the pebbles can be - Turkish, USA, England, France, well, ours - of course. And what is reconnaissance - is it already bad?

[APASUS]

Quote: atalef

In general, we certainly spy - and rightly so

So you answered your question.

Quote: atalef

And the pebbles can be - Turkish, USA, England, France, well, ours - of course

Not all of these countries own such technology!
Manufacturers of such a specific technique can be counted on the fingers of one hand.
And to buy such equipment is not so simple! For example, in the United States, the sale of such equipment to an ally is surrounded by all sorts of reservations.

[atalef]

Quote: APASUS

Quote: atalef
In general, we certainly spy - and rightly so
So you answered your question.

No, we look like suckers and do not conduct intelligence. Since when intelligence is bad

Quote: APASUS

Manufacturers of such a specific technique can be counted on the fingers of one hand

I did not say that she was not ours. He said that there could be another country (the same states)
just someone was crucified about the stigma - made in Israel.

[APASUS]

Quote: atalef

just someone was crucified about the stigma - made in Israel.

There was a passport .........

[atalef]

Quote: APASUS

There was a passport .....

Apparently my

[Pimply]

In Israel, everyone is stupid - to put intelligence equipment with Hebrew inscriptions clearly giving out their affiliation. Bravo.

[atalef]

Quote: Pimply

In Israel, everyone is stupid - to put intelligence equipment with Hebrew inscriptions clearly giving out their affiliation. Bravo.

Hello ! Zhen, the jeep was shown in Syria with inscriptions in Hebrew, baptized by the people as a command center equipped with the most advanced means of communication. Who cares about the glass sticker on the passage of the (last) in 2000. (The year he left Lebanon, where he was just visible abandoned)
Who here in general includes a head - units. They can’t tell dumb misinformation from the truth. It's like Ascetic watching a video with rolls of toilet paper (but not able to read Hebrew) immediately called it the advanced weapons supplied by the SSA

[datur]

[quote = Pupyrchaty] In Israel, everyone is stupid - put intelligence equipment with Hebrew inscriptions clearly betraying affiliation. Bravo. I personally think that you are the most adequate Jew here !!!!

[datur]

[quote = Pupyrchaty] In Israel, everyone is stupid - put intelligence equipment with Hebrew inscriptions clearly betraying affiliation. Bravo in this matter, I agree with you !! weak !! but, the fact that Israel does not support this rubbish! --- as your Stanislavsky (ksati) said - I DO NOT BELIEVE !!!!!

[Tourist Breakfast]

Although such a picture was printed even in the Israeli press ....

It was only printed in 2010 regarding allegedly spyware found in southern Lebanon.
What does all this have to do with today's events in Syria?

[atalef]

Quote: APASUS

Although such a picture was printed even in the Israeli press

nor printed, and why, below in English it is written, made in Israel. Likely that no one would ever doubt when they found the equipment. Then, even in 2 languages ​​of the stigma. You believe that. Of course in Israel enough. but not so much.
Elementary disu you can not see?

[Pimply]

Tell me, is Israel distinguished by suicidal tendencies — supporting the Salafis?

[Day 11]

By your actions, we see exactly that!

[Pimply]

Which ones? By the fact that there are no military camps in Israel, as in Turkey and Jordan, for example?

[Day 11]

Why are they praising you? Why did you have to ruin the Syrian military? They decided to hit you? Just don’t have to drive this bullshit out of Hezbollah’s supplies! Any of your military men will tell you that it was a blow to Bashar!

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

Just don’t have to run this bullshit about Hezbollah supplies! Any of your military men will tell you that this was a blow to Bashar!

Yesterday, May 9, the leader of the Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah group, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, said in an interview with Al-Manar TV channel that Syria would soon provide its militants with “super-weapons capable of changing the rules of the game and the strategic balance of forces in the Middle East region” in favor of the true sons of Allah. "

According to Nasrallah, we are talking about a top-secret weapon, such as a “wunderwaffe”: “I have no right to talk about this in detail, but this weapon is a scourge in the hands of the sons of Allah for infidels, Zionists and Americans, and in general everyone who gets in our way. Fire arrows and claws of celestial eagles will fall upon such! ”, He clicks.

Responding privately, Israeli analysts say that the Bashar al-Assad regime apparently decided to supply Hezbollah with some modern weapons

How about this? Is Nasrallah lying?

[atalef]

Quote: RUSSIA 2013

if Israel were honest with Syria, it would organize a raid to squeeze out militants from neutral territory, even with the Syrian army

Where will we squeeze out? on whose territory? And in general, while they don’t do anything bad for us, why should we interfere? Those who several times tried to shoot failed. Quiet now. This is not our war.

[Day 11]

You’re former Soviet! Do you really not understand that this scum (Wahhabis) needs to be crushed with all the fervor of revolutionary consciousness? After all, in the course of time, this is an auknitsa to you! You are far from being stupid people! Do you want to be in charge of BV?

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

You are former Soviet! Do you really not understand that this scum (Wahhabis) must be crushed with all the fervor of revolutionary consciousness?

In Israel they are not, let Assad crush his. To us what. To stick to us is a separate conversation.

Quote: Den 11

After all, in due course, this is an au-woman! You are far from being stupid people!

Troubles must be experienced as they come. I do not understand that you are so afraid of Syrian Wahhabis. From them to us 40 km, and to you 4000. Probably they will climb to us first. But somehow we don’t fight in hysterics

[Day 11]

But how can it be together? Pride does not allow? By the way, we are also not far from the Caucasus!

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

You are far from being stupid people! Want to be in charge of BV?

Yes, we are so important. Then I found a video, now all of Israel is over it. The Arab (probably not the first time receiving from the guard) decided to record him and file a lawsuit

[Day 11]

Yeah, culture is rushing! Do you really don’t think them of people? What did he say that? Nahamil? That's why this is your attitude!

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

Yeah, culture is rushing! Do you really don’t think them of people? What did he say that? Nahamil? That's why this is your attitude!

Do not brake, it's not about that.

[Pimply]

Not an Arab. "Morokai", apparently.

[igor67]

Quote: Pimply

Not an Arab. "Morokai", apparently.

Yes Zhenya is a Jew with Moroko

[atalef]

Quote: igor67

Yes Zhenya is a Jew with Moroko

no, this is an Arab from Kalkiliya (pay attention he asked him - you are a Jew and his reaction)
It’s just for a guard that Arabs, that Morocco, are one and the same. But the language is beautiful.

[Tourist Breakfast]

no, it's an arab from Calquil

If he is an Arab, then where is the passage about soap? Still Moroccan, IMHO.

[Tambov we ...]

What's the difference? Jew, he is also a Jew in Africa

[APASUS]

Quote: atalef

Then I found a video, now all of Israel is over it. Arab

Yes, the text is certainly super!
Need to rewrite at your leisure !!

[Pimply]

On the side of Assad, the guys from Hezbollah and Ksir are fighting, who organized the Second Lebanese and received support from Assad. They, too, must be crushed with all the fervor of revolutionary consciousness. Because their only difference from Wahhabis is that some adhere to the Shiite trend of Islam, while others adhere to the Sunni trend. And sho do, whom to push?

[Day 11]

Once again, I do not consider Hezbollah to be a terrorist organization! What did THEY take upon themselves? People defend themselves.

[igor67]

Quote: Den 11

Once again, I do not consider Hezbollah to be a terrorist organization! What did THEY take upon themselves? People defend themselves.

You ask what they took upon themselves? You ask the Lebanese Christians who survived and who live where, some how unfortunate for you in Israel, who in Canada, France, and how many Christians they cut, pussies?

[atalef]

Quote: igor67

and how many Christians they cut, pussies?

Lebanon (in general, it has always been part of Syria), but during the division of empires it was specially separated (France) because there the main population was Maronite Christians. and France tried to preserve the Christian enclave on B.V. but then the Palestinians came in, the civil war started, and then
Hezbollah did her best and there’s not much left of Christians in Lebanon (by the way, Sabra and Shatila are Christians - phalangists slaughtered Palestinians)
Now, through the efforts of Hezbollah from Christians in Lebanon, only memories remained. Whom they killed, the bulk escaped, the rest are sitting and quietly sniffing in two holes.

[Day 11]

You can link? No, it’s really interesting to me (in PM). I’ll read, discuss

[Pimply]

Yeah. And this is precisely called the policy of double standards. You can not count further.
There was such a comrade - Imad Mguniya, one of the main functionaries of Hezbollah. In particular, in 1985, he organized the abduction of four Soviet citizens and personally shot one of those captured, Arkady Katkov. This is apparently a way of protection. Or the explosion of the Jewish center in Buenos Aires. Or an attack on tourists in Bulgaria ... No, not a terrorist one. It smells like a dog, barks like a dog, bites like a dog. But we will call her a beautiful unicorn. Because it’s more convenient.

[Day 11]

Arkady Katkov, who was national? Soaked Russian? Just facts

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

Arkady Katkov, who was national? Soaked Russian? Just facts

A citizen of the USSR, or if not Russian (although I do not know his nationality) then it is possible.

In general, probably it is worth stopping our discussion on this. Shamefully look.

[Day 11]

I did not want to offend your nation. You yourself embittered the whole Arab world against yourself! Dosvidos!

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

I didn’t want to offend your nation. You yourself embittered the whole Arab world

Do you relate to the Arab world? This is to what? Which is against Assad (since no Arab country was left for him)

Quote: Den 11

Dosvidos!

This is probably a translation from the provincial into Spanish.
Shalom Leh (i.e. goodbye to you)

[Day 11]

1-To some extent I relate. I have a Muslim wife by blood! I gave birth to beautiful children. 2-We don’t speak Spanish, more Arabic (still weak)

[datur]

[quote = atalef]
[/ Quote]
[quote = atalef] [quote = RUSSIA 2013], if Israel would be honest with Syria, it would organize a raid to squeeze the militants out of neutral territory, you can even jointly with the Syrian army [/ quote]
Where will we squeeze out? on whose territory? And in general, while they don’t do anything bad for us, why should we interfere? Those who several times tried to shoot failed. Quiet now. This is not our war. But all these fighters, for democracy, but to you all !!!! Well, what would you understand - what is American democracy !!!!

[Pimply]

Israel also provided medical assistance to government soldiers. AND?

[Day 11]

Do not call, buddy Eugene, the army men take their soldiers to their hospitals

[Pimply]

It's funny Check out the past review.

[datur]

[quote = Pimpled] Israel also provided medical assistance to government soldiers. And? —You are good Bible Samaritans? isn’t it funny?

[Rioter]

if Israel were honest, as Assad was honest with Israel, then he would have felled ATGM militants with their most perfect weapons. Al-Qaeda would have flown rockets and mines to hammer in Damascus, and Assad’s palace was watered with napalm. But Israel chose to withdraw as much as possible, intervening only then and on those occasions that affect only the interests of Israel in some sensitive areas.

[Mairos]

Yes there are Syrians there. Just like in Chechnya, not only foreign mercenaries fought, but the Chechens themselves, mainly. Another question is why and for what they are fighting.

[Pimply]

Because the Sunnis have been in a squeezed position for many years, and this is not the first uprising, about 1982 people died in the past in 40000. This is a typical civil war - with massacres, mercenaries on both sides, killings of civilians and a complete disregard for all moral standards.

[Interface]

But if American journalists were fired on at the Dutch heights, a scandal would rise, and if they were killed, aircraft carriers would sail to the Syrian shores, the law is in force in America, which allegedly declares war on the country in which the US citizen was killed.

[Professor]

Quote: Interface

But if only for gollanдat American heights fired at American journalists

One problem is that in the Netherlands there are no heights, more plains and swamps.

[Day 11]

Enough for you, this is a known mistake! The meaning is clear

[OTTO]

Quote: professor

One problem is that in the Netherlands there are no heights, more plains and swamps.

But in the USA they know about it ???

[APASUS]

Quote: InterfaceAnd if American journalists were fired at Dutch heights

Spelled correctly Golan Heights

[Pimply]

Yes, they would not have sailed. It’s common when journalists die.

There, in 2012, the American journalist Mary Colvin and the French photographer Remy Oshlik died in Syria. Aircraft carriers of the USA and France, ay!

Yes, so that there are no questions about the eye, Colvin is a famous war reporter. Eyes lost in 2001 in Sri Lanka, falling into the war zone.

[Day 11]

Even a plus for you! A very symbolic photo! You don’t find? You can sign - "Brings democracy to the world"

[Pimply]

Hmm, my friend. This is your diagnosis. Forgive me. Total.

[Day 11]

Have a nice one you too!

[datur]

I just watched a video on the Air Force about the liberation of EL QUSEIRA MDA, an interview with a local resident - God bless you, the army freed us, and the Aglitsky correspondent rests on general geyrope values ​​= he just left!

[Professor]

The terrain at the checkpoint is considered to be a buffer zone; soldiers cannot use heavy weapons here and carry out large-scale stripping operations. In turn, the militants are hiding in the villages on neutral territory and carry out attacks, attacking military and civilians in Syria.

Despite this, the Syrian army introduced heavy equipment including tanks into the buffer zone. The corresponding note of protest was transmitted to the UN, and also through official channels the Syrian government was given a warning about the destruction of tanks in case of repeated violation of the ceasefire agreement of the 1974 year.
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4389797,00.html

[Day 11]

And if there will be Russians, decide to destroy, is that enough?

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

And if there will be Russians, decide to destroy, is that enough?

Of course, how will they interfere?
By the way, it is the work of observers to prevent the entry of heavy equipment into the demilitarized zone. Therefore, if Syria does not listen to Russian observers and introduces tanks, then of course, at the request of the UN forces (Russian in this case) we will destroy

[Pimply]

That is why there will not be Russians there - the task of UN observers is to prevent the entry of heavy equipment into the demilitarized zone. Since Russia has its own interests, it is highly likely that the Russians will miss the equipment.

[Baboon]

Professor
Well, what to do? No one has canceled the rule of law, it’s true. There is a buffer zone, militants use it. Is there any other solution to the problem?

[Professor]

Quote: Babon

Well, what to do?

Asadu advised not to go to the border with tanks, Tamuzes have long been working there at gunpoints.

[Kirgudum]

Why is it for your special forces, according to some sources, you can roam across the border, SSA militants can go to you to heal before the battle, your tanks can stand there, and the Syrian vehicles that help the infantry clean out the bandits - you can’t? Do you take too much on yourself?

[Pimply]

Because Israeli tanks are on Israeli territory, the treatment of the wounded is a rule of humanitarian law (Syrian soldiers were also treated just like that recently), the Fox TV channel was shot in the training area during the day, and the reliability of the fact that they were shot on Syrian territory is in question. But Syrian cars cannot, because Syria is still at war with Israel, and the lack of armored vehicles in the buffer zone is provided for by the agreements of 1974. Available?

[Kirgudum]

Because Israeli tanks are in Israeli territory

- I'm sorry, the Golan Heights are not Israeli territory. This is the territory of Syria temporarily occupied by Israel. Are there countries in the world that recognize the territory of the Syrian Golan as Israeli? Name those who admitted it, and those who refused to do it - against you OVERWHELMING MAJORITY countries of the world.

treatment of the wounded is a rule of humanitarian law

- since you’ve started talking about the law, explain why you are releasing terrorist criminals? Well you not so long ago howled at what bad Palestinian terrorists. why are you, since you don’t like terrorists so much, you’re not only not killing them (as you are doing with the Palestinians), but also LET'S FREE??
Do not you think that these are double standards - to condemn those who organize acts of terrorism against you, and to help those who organize acts of terrorism against others?

[cartridge]

Putin correctly says about placing our paratroopers there. And Israel will be calm, and in Syria, the boiling point will immediately go down.

[Professor]

Quote: cartridge

Putin correctly says about placing our paratroopers there. And Israel will be calm, and in Syria, the boiling point will immediately go down.

Do not exaggerate. 300 fighters on this technique will not make the weather there.

[11 black]

Quote: professor

Putin correctly says about placing our paratroopers there. And Israel will be calm, and in Syria, the boiling point will immediately go down.

Do not exaggerate. 300 fighters on this technique will not make the weather there.

I’m sure that they will do it - in August 8 we all popularly explained what happens after the attack on our peacekeepers. Here, it’s important not so much, but the fact of presence. And if there is an attack on them, it will be a declaration of war on Russia with all the consequences.
Of course, the militants will try to attack the military - it’s just a gang of thugs, and with one such attack they will untie the hands of our politicians so that we can deliver everything to the Tartus legally to the nuclear bomb (in principle, even now, we don’t want a democratic howl ), but if the attack on ours - then there’s no one’s mouth open, but we don’t care. And as for Israel - I think you have no doubt that the war with Russia will be his last war, so the attack on ours, and therefore on the Golan Heights, is EXCLUDED!

PS

Quote: professor

"The militants ambushed the road and opened fire on cars, fired primarily on civilians.

this clearly shows the essence of the Syrian "opposition".

[Professor]

Quote: 11 black

Of course, the militants will try to attack the military

Why? Three hundred poorly armed peacekeepers will sit in bunkers during daily mortar attacks and no one will send them either Tu-160 or nuclear bombs. And the fact that Russian peacekeepers will be a tidbit for local militants (and not local ones) is beyond any doubt. The UN mandate clearly provides for the rights and obligations of peacekeepers. Rather, they are observers not able to defend even themselves.

[Phantom Revolution]

Quote: professor

Why? Three hundred poorly armed peacekeepers will sit in bunkers during daily mortar attacks and no one will send them either Tu-160 or nuclear bombs. And the fact that Russian peacekeepers will be a tidbit for local militants (and not local ones) is beyond any doubt. The UN mandate clearly provides for the rights and obligations of peacekeepers. Rather, they are observers not able to defend even themselves.

08.08 they were also under tanks under artillery fire and were able to pat the enemy and repel attacks, so I think they can handle this as well.

[Professor]

Do not make me laugh.
1. Russian "peacekeepers" in Ossetia were without a UN mandate where their powers would be clearly stipulated.
2. In the Golan about 1000 peacekeepers and about a third! there may be Russians. In addition to small arms do not have anything.
3. Neither the 58 Army, nor any other units will be able to help the peacekeepers (except to evacuate them)
4. In the event of an attack by militants, the peacekeepers will not be able to present claims to either Israel or Syria and, accordingly, there will be no one to "bomb".
5. How will the Russian government behave if two or three peacekeepers are captured by militants?

[shamil]

Of course, Israel itself will provoke attacks on Russian peacekeepers at the hands of militants

[Professor]

100%. Why did Israel need a quiet peaceful border with which it was the last 40 years? Mortar attacks and Grads are much more useful than the development of the economy, tourism and the legitimization of the Golan itself.

[Kirgudum]

Since Israel is trying to reassure the people of something, then things are quite the opposite. Let’s tell, Professor, what’s scary for you - a bunch of Islamists who don’t know how to throw a mortar shell into the barrel, or a strong and well-armed Syria with a powerful army, with modern Russian technology, airplanes, and air defense, which have no equal in Israel was and will not be?

[datur]

Well, yes type - they stood there on their own initiative, they had nothing to do !!!

[Kirgudum]

How then do you explain the following, you argued that:

1

... Russian "peacekeepers" in Ossetia were without a UN mandate, where their powers would be clearly stipulated.

- and now we look at how things really were:

The UN Security Council on Friday unanimously adopted a resolution on a six-month extension of the mandate of the UN Observer Mission in Georgia (UNOMIG) in the Georgian-Abkhaz conflict zone until October 15, 2007

And -

Georgian Prime Minister Vladimir Gurgenidze signed a decree annulling the peacekeeping mandate of Russian troops in South Ossetia and Abkhazia. A government-approved document may oblige Russia to withdraw all peacekeepers from Georgia, to which South Ossetia and Abkhazia are ranked in Tbilisi. Tbilisi wants to replace Russians with international peacekeeping forces, AFP reports.

? How is that - you say that there was no mandate. and the UN and Georgia say that there was a mandate. One of you LIES

3. Neither the 58 Army, nor any other units will be able to help the peacekeepers (except to evacuate them)

- in fact, according to Part 2 of Art. 61 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation "The Russian Federation guarantees its citizens protection and patronage outside its borders" - that is, if it is necessary to save several dozen people and break off the UAV sales market for Israel in Georgia, then Russia did it and, if necessary, will do it again.

[Professor]

Quote: Kirgudum

How is that - you say that there was no mandate. and the UN and Georgia say that there was a mandate. Some of you are lying

You are lying. Show us the UN Security Council resolution in accordance with which there were Russian "peacekeepers" in Ossetia on 8.8.8. What's her number?

Quote: Kirgudum

actually, according to Part 2 of Art. 61 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation "The Russian Federation guarantees its citizens protection and patronage outside its borders" - that is, if it is necessary to save several dozen people and break off the UAV market in Georgia for Israel, then Russia did it and, if necessary, will do it again.

Is this the same constitution according to which conscripts should not have fought outside of Russia?

At the expense of the market generally amused. After this war, Russia itself became the market for Israeli UAVs. Where is the logic?

[Kirgudum]

Show us the UN Security Council resolution in accordance with which there were Russian "peacekeepers" in Ossetia 8.8.8

- You have extra quotes in the word peacekeepers.
And - I will not look for resolution numbers, but -

On April 15, the UN Security Council unanimously approved a resolution extending until October 2008 the mandate of the UN Observer Mission in Georgia (UNOMIG). The situation in the zone of the Georgian-Abkhaz conflict was assessed as "generally stable".

The UN mission in Georgia continues to help "prevent the escalation of tension in the conflict zone and establish a dialogue between the Georgian and Abkhaz sides," according to the report presented earlier to the Security Council by the UN Secretary General.

The adopted resolution reflects the role of Russia as a facilitating party in resolving the conflict, reaffirms the useful role of the CIS collective peacekeeping forces and the UN monitoring mission in Georgia, and notes the high level of their interaction, ITAR-TASS news agency reported.

- therefore, your statement that the Russian peacekeepers were in Georgia without a UN mandate, FALSE.

By the way, if the opinion of the UN and its bodies is so important to you, then pay attention to UN Security Council resolution No. 497.

after this war, Russia itself became a market for Israeli UAVs

- what other "sales market? 12 drones is that a lot? Well, let's not cling to the numbers - the main thing is not that Russia took some UAVs from you to study their capabilities and create more advanced models based on the information received (Russian aircraft in avionics traditionally better than Israeli), and the main thing is that this weapon has ceased to receive Georgia - the enemy of Russia.

Is this the same constitution according to which conscripts should not have fought outside of Russia?

- according to which article? A quote from the law with the article number, as I did, in the studio.

[atalef]

Quote: Kirgudum

12 drones is it really a lot? Well, let's not cling to numbers - the main thing is not the fact that Russia took a few UAVs from you to study their capabilities and create better samples based on the information received

you have the order of things as a causal relationship is not broken?

[Professor]

Quote: Kirgudum

And - I will not look for resolution numbers, but -

It is hard to look for a black cat in a dark room, especially if she is not there.

- therefore, your statement that the Russian peacekeepers were in Georgia without a UN mandate, FALSE

Show us the UN Security Council resolution in accordance with which there were Russian "peacekeepers" in Ossetia 8.8.8

Quote: Kirgudum

Well, let's not cling to numbers -

Did Georgia supply 120? 1200? 12000 UAV? Closer to the numbers, dear, they say a lot.

Quote: Kirgudum

Russian avionics are traditionally better than Israeli

VAFa ask, he will explain to you on the fingers.

Quote: Kirgudum

according to which article? A quote from the law with the article number, as I did, in the studio.

I remind you that you did it like this: "And - I will not look for resolution numbers ..."So you don't need numbers and quotes.

According to the Federal Law "On Military Duty and Military Service" in force as of January 8.8.8, 1, the participation of conscripts in hostilities was prohibited. Perhaps this can explain the lie of the MO.
He once again categorically denied allegations by some media that conscription servicemen had participated in the war zone in South Ossetia..

[Kirgudum]

Professor, didn’t you do this:
"I don't have to prove anything to you," and - "Was there enough information on this topic on the Internet?" And how, after these words, do you have the audacity to demand something from others?

Especially since it began - with your lies that the Russian peacekeepers were in Georgia without a mandate. Like so, you’ve got nothing to do)))) And all the media call them Putin’s peacekeepers for money — namely, peacekeepers, not occupation forces — as they would call if they didn’t have a mandate.
Note that you didn’t say that they were without a mandate on 8.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. and that they were GENERALLY there without a mandate. Although I gave you enough evidence that you are lying, and the fact that I am too lazy to look for numbers for the sake of the troll does not change anything - there was a mandate.

VAFa ask, he will explain to you on the fingers

- I don't know who it is, but can you tell us what kind of fighter Israel is producing in series? In what way is it better than the Russian, say, the old man Su-27, or even such old as the MiG-29? I will not even mention the later versions of Sushki, so as not to upset you - if the Su-27 hits the BVB F-15 (checked in Cope India - 2004 and Langley), then imagine what will say with them Su- 35)))

in accordance with the Federal Law "On Military Duty and Military Service" in force on 8.8.8

- I ask once again, this time from you, the QUOTE from the law and the article number - are you sure that you understood everything correctly? And why the heck is the army, if it can’t be fought?
Yes, however, it doesn’t matter - even if violations of Russian law in Russia itself do not imitate you in your Israel, you yourself violate international law many times and constantly.

[Professor]

Quote: Kirgudum

Although I gave you enough evidence that you are lying, and the fact that I am too lazy to look for numbers for the sake of the troll does not change anything - there was a mandate.

Less words and more facts, you are our unfounded. Show us the UN Security Council resolution in accordance with which there were Russian "peacekeepers" in Ossetia on 8.8.8. Was there a boy?

Quote: Kirgudum

- I don't know who it is, but can you tell us what kind of fighter Israel is producing in series? In what way is it better than the Russian, say, the old man Su-27, or even such old as the MiG-29? I will not even mention the later versions of Sushki, so as not to upset you - if the Su-27 hits the BVB F-15 (checked in Cope India - 2004 and Langley), then imagine what will say with them Su- 35)))

Learn the materiel. You have no basic idea of ​​what avionics is.

Quote: Kirgudum

Yes, however, it doesn’t matter - even if violations of Russian law in Russia itself do not imitate you in your Israel, you yourself violate international law many times and constantly.

That word is not a boy, but a husband. Do parents know that without their demand they use the Internet? Be careful, there are many dangers waiting for you here.

[Kirgudum]

Oh, grandpa, you remember nothing about the children - I have two of them myself.
I read you and understand how true the statement is that by the age of some people’s mind is only diminishing. Did you ask for the above confirmation that the Russian peacekeepers (without the quotes, you are our dear troll) were in Georgia according to the UN mandate? I gave you QUOTES from the news about this above, what are you still missing?

Ok, read, you are our smart:

UNOMIG was originally established on 24 August 1993 pursuant to Security Council resolution 858 (1993) in order to verify the implementation of the ceasefire agreement of 27 July 1993 between the Government of Georgia and the Abkhaz authorities in Georgia, with particular attention to the situation in the city of Sukhumi; investigating reports of ceasefire violations and efforts to resolve such incidents with the parties involved; and reporting to the Secretary-General on the implementation of his mandate, including but not limited to violations of the ceasefire. The authorized strength of the Mission was 88 military observers.

After the initial mandate of UNOMIG lost its force in connection with the resumption of hostilities in Abkhazia in September 1993, the Mission received an interim mandate in Security Council resolution 881 (1993) of 4 November 1993 to maintain contact with both parties to the conflict and with the military contingents of the Russian Federation and to monitor the situation and report to headquarters, with particular attention to any developments in connection with the efforts of the United Nations to promote a comprehensive political settlement. After the signing of the Ceasefire and Separation of Forces Agreement by the Georgian and Abkhaz sides in May 1994, the Security Council, in its resolution 937 (1994) of July 27, 1994, authorized the expansion of UNOMIG to 136 military observers and decided that the mandate of the expanded Mission would be as follows :


monitoring and monitoring the implementation by the parties of the Ceasefire and Separation of Forces Agreement, signed in Moscow on May 14, 1994;

monitoring the operation of the CIS peacekeeping force as part of the implementation of the Agreement;

control by monitoring and patrolling that the troops of the parties do not remain in the security zone and do not return to it and that heavy military equipment does not remain in the security zone or restricted weapons zone and is not reintroduced there;

monitoring the storage areas of heavy military equipment withdrawn from the security zone and the restricted weapons zone, if necessary, in cooperation with the CIS peacekeeping forces;
monitoring the withdrawal of troops of the Republic of Georgia from the Kodori Gorge to places outside of Abkhazia, Republic of Georgia;


regular patrolling of the Kodori Valley;


investigation at the request of any country or CIS peacekeeping force or on its own initiative of communications or allegations of violations of the Agreement and in attempts to resolve or facilitate the resolution of such incidents;


reporting regularly to the Secretary-General, within his mandate, in particular on the implementation of the Agreement, any violations and their investigation by UNOMIG, as well as other relevant developments;


maintaining close contacts with both parties to the conflict and cooperation with the CIS peacekeeping forces, as well as through its presence in the region in facilitating the creation of favorable conditions for the safe and orderly return of refugees and displaced persons.

[Professor]

Save with pasta you are very good, but this is not the case. I repeat my question as a last resort: Show us the UN Security Council resolution in accordance with which there were Russian "peacekeepers" in Ossetia 8.8.8. Resolution number?
I will help you. Here are all the resolutions for the 2008 year (to show for other years?), Which of them made the Russian military in the South Ossetia peacekeepers?
http://www.un.org/docs/sc/unsc_resolutions08.htm

[Kirgudum]

Let me remind you that at the beginning you said something like the following: Russian troops are in Georgia without any grounds and mandates, without the knowledge and permission of the UN and its bodies and committees. Then it dawned on you that this was not so, and you began to demand that I give you the number of the UN Security Council resolution allowing Russian troops to be in Georgia on 8.08.08/58/XNUMX, although peacekeepers were there there, as authorized by the UN, and the XNUMXth Army’s permission nafig was not necessary - they saved the lives of these very peacekeepers and the civilian population of South Ossetia and Abkhazia from the brutal bandits of Saakashvili with Israeli drones.

And finally explain, why do you really need the opinion of the UN if you yourself spit on it, because it was the UN that invalidated your annexation of the Golan Heights and condemned it?

By the way - here is another link on the UN SITE confirming that Russian troops are in Georgia on OFFICIAL BASES:

http://www.un.org/russian/news/story.asp?NewsID=10442

[Kirgudum]

Russian "peacekeepers" in Ossetia were without a UN mandate where their powers would be clearly stipulated

- that the UN mandate was, I have already shown. And as for the powers - regardless of what powers the peacekeepers had, they had the right to self-defense. When without warning, like Hitler, without declaring war, PEACEKEEPERS suddenly open fire, they have every right to self-defense.

[Pimply]

Find the text of the UN mandate of Russian peacekeepers in Ossetia, you are our genius. By the way, are you aware that Hitler officially declared war?

[Pimply]

Russian peacekeepers in Ossetia did not have a UN mandate, but other powers.
The powers of the peacekeeping contingent in the Golan are limited. They, for example, should not engage in hostilities between the Syrian army and the rebels.

[Kirgudum]

And what powers and mandate did Russian peacekeepers have in Georgia? The text of the mandate with the source - I ask you to lay out, you are our unfounded.

[Pimply]

Oh, well-educated. You are our yes, illiterate. Peacekeepers do not mean automatically - UN peacekeepers - this time.

The agreement, according to which the Russians were in South Ossetia, was called "On the principles of the settlement of the Georgian-Ossetian conflict", dated 1992. Or the Sochi agreements. Here is their text
http://caucasica.org/docs/detail.php?ID=1329

Further, I recommend reading the mandate. The first
http://www.mid.ru/BRP_4.NSF/0/2bd92ad3afa09703c3256ea90022457f?OpenDocument
And then the second
http://caucasica.org/docs/detail.php?ID=1330

MATCH. Learn MATCH before ponto bend your fingers.

[Day 11]

And if these 300 are from Chechnya?

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

And if these 300 are from Chechnya?

Are Chechens already the coolest warriors? But how are the Slavs? Do not pull?

[Day 11]

It’s easier for them! They themselves are eager for battle! We have other things! Like the Yankees to kick the fuck. Everyone should do his own thing! And in total, we do a common thing, we raise Russia!

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

Everyone should do their own thing! And in sum, we do a common thing, we raise Russia!

with the Chechens? Oh well

[Day 11]

You’ll throw out your stereotypes of the 90s! Ramzan there correctly interprets people!

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

Ramzan is there to correctly interpret people!

With the help of Allah.
You yourself believe in it. Ramzan - as an example to follow. Something has turned upside down in this life for you, Chechens as an example.

[Pimply]

Yeah, especially considering the fact that their fellow Sunnis are howling against Assad 8) It will definitely be easier. They are eager for battle.

[Day 11]

And the Sunnis are fighting for Bashar. And in the Caucasus, for example, only the Alawites are fighting against GDP ?!

[ultra]

Quote: professor

And the fact that Russian peacekeepers will be a tidbit for local militants (and not local ones) is beyond any doubt.

Absolutely agree!

[candy bar140105]

you ask the Georgians how they could not protect themselves at 08 poor ...

[Pimply]

Yeah. The mandate is just that the peacekeepers have tight limited functions. And in Ossetia, Russian peacekeepers did not have a UN mandate at all

[Kirgudum]

You know Galstukoed Miho Saakashvili would not agree with you. Strongly disagree)))

[Pimply]

What exactly?

[Pimply]

The UN mandate severely restricts the rights and capabilities of peacekeepers - they perform observational functions.

[RUSSIA 2013]

Quote: professor

Do not exaggerate. 300 fighters on this technique will not make the weather there.

Militarily, this may not be done on this technique, but psychologically the presence of our guys will cool some people’s heads, for example, Israel, and you can put equipment on them.

[Professor]

Quote: RUSSIA 2013

Militarily, this may not be done on this technique, but psychologically the presence of our guys will cool someone’s head, for example, Israel

300 AK infantry deployed in the Golan will prevent Israeli bombing through Bekaa.

Quote: RUSSIA 2013

and you can put the equipment and pile

It is impossible, the mandate does not allow.

[RUSSIA 2013]

Quote: professor

Quote: RUSSIA 2013

Militarily, this may not be done on this technique, but psychologically the presence of our guys will cool someone’s head, for example, Israel

300 AK infantry deployed in the Golan will prevent Israeli bombing through Bekaa.

Quote: RUSSIA 2013

and you can put the equipment and pile

It is impossible, the mandate does not allow.

Imagine those would prevent Israel from daring to bomb, maybe you remember Georgia’s 2008, which turned out to be the shelling of peacekeepers, for the Georgians. The mandate, but with a mandate nearby, is easy to transfer the Russian fleet and equipment, and if you think that the Amers will be in vain, they don’t need a war with Russia. Israel will remain alone, the only thing that amers can do is try to organize a negotiation table.

[Professor]

Quote: RUSSIA 2013

Imagine those would prevent Israel from daring to bomb, maybe you remember Georgia’s 2008, which turned out to be the shelling of peacekeepers, for the Georgians. The mandate, but with a mandate nearby, is easy to transfer the Russian fleet and equipment, and if you think that the Amers will be in vain, they don’t need a war with Russia. Israel will remain alone, the only thing that amers can do is try to organize a negotiation table.

You throw away unnecessary emotions. The peacekeepers are multinational there and the rules for their stay are stipulated. The Russians will make up only a third and will be armed like all the others.
Show us the UN Security Council decision to deploy "peacekeepers" in Ossetia.
The transfer of equipment will not even be discussed by kindergarten.

[Sashatula]

The military of the Russian Federation was in Ossetia in accordance with the Russia-Georgia agreement of 1993 and they were called peacekeepers, I think not only UN troops can be called that, Professor, do not do casuistry

PS about bidding - I am inclined too, I hope they won’t go with a bargaining chip with-300

[Pimply]

This is not casuistry. This is a different submission, different mandates, a different degree of responsibility, different conditions of stay.

[Sashatula]

Subordination, mandates, degree of responsibility, conditions of stay are determined by the agreements reached, and not by those who sent whom to whom. So, this is casuistry.

[Baboon]

Which one? peacekeepers laid only light weapons. I just don’t know how they will be allowed to move on armored personnel carriers.

[ultra]

Quote: professor

. 300 fighters on this technique will not make the weather there.

It seems that if the question of bringing in our peacekeepers is resolved, they will enter with standard equipment (preferably with means of amplification), otherwise I see no point in finding them, since they will be target number 1 for the Syrian "opposition".

[Tourist Breakfast]

It seems that if the question of bringing in our peacekeepers is resolved, they will enter with standard equipment (preferably with means of amplification), otherwise I see no point in finding them, since they will be target number 1 for the Syrian "opposition".

In fact, if you look at the map, the Golan is far from being such an important area in this conflict. In order to really help Assad, you need to block the Turkish and Lebanese border. And so the deployment of Russian peacekeepers in the Golan is more likely a political step than having military value.

[Day 11]

Zhenya, agree that this will have a strong Russian move in the BV and it will block all the disadvantages that you painted for us!

[Pimply]

How strong. The corpses of soldiers and the pulling of Russia into the war? Well, before the election a surge of patriotism is still.

[Atlon]

Quote: professor

Do not exaggerate. 300 fighters on this technique will not make the weather there

And if so, why resist?

[Professor]

I do not resist. I am more pleasant than Russian soldiers than Austrian zoldaten. The question is whether the Russian peacekeepers will be able to not be biased and fulfill their mission?

[Atlon]

Quote: professor

The question is whether the Russian peacekeepers will be able to not be biased and fulfill their mission?

What's so complicated? There are two tasks:
1. Do not let militants from Syria into "peaceful" Israel, and protect Jewish children.
2. Do not let out weapons, equipment and ammunition from Israel to Syria for militants.

What is the bias? Russian paratroopers will not shoot at Jewish soldiers, so do not be afraid!

[Pimply]

Not true. Look at the mandate. For example, if a Syrian tank enters this zone, the task of peacekeepers is to prevent it from entering.

[Day 11]

Yes, the Syrian tank will not go there! If you are in garlic, then we will! He said correctly, we don’t want to fight with you, not because of sourness, you just have good friends there. But the Yankees are enemies to us!

[Rumata]

Quote: Atlon

1. Do not let militants from Syria into "peaceful" Israel, and protect Jewish children.

=)) How do you imagine the border from Israel? 300 peacekeepers, like 300 Spartans will defend a completely open border, from the redoubts of the militants without a single Israeli soldier and tank, where do the tanks come from Israel ....
After all, there is a kindergarten. and not the border without peacekeepers, well, Israel can’t resist Israel ...

[builder]

I am more pleasant than Russian soldiers than Austrian zoldaten

[pakfa-t-50]

300 NOT JUST Fighters AND Fighters OF THE ELDOWS OF OUR ELITE SO UNTILT TRADED ORDINARY MERCURES OF THE REBUILDING WILL BE FULLY FULL! ! !

[Pimply]

And here you are wrong. Because their task is not to run after the rebels, but to abide by the disengagement agreement. But it’s about something else.

[bask]

Quote: cartridge

Putin correctly says about placing our paratroopers there.

Our airborne forces are not needed there.
Firstly, they will become the number 1 target for militants.
Peacekeeping battalion, or rather several, the personnel are only Muslims from the S. Caucasus !!!

[Day 11]

Yes, that’s what it is! Ramzan probably already doesn’t get the GDP off the phone, send me, I will prove ...

[Baboon]

I fully support it, people from the Caucasian republics should be there, and the paratroopers will not be given any life there.

[individual]

Cowardly jackals capable of shooting women and children.
Journalists write the truth about bandits in Syria.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: individ

Journalists write the truth about the bandits in Syria.

And what is there to write something. Everything is already known. A thug, he's a thug everywhere. What is in Syria, what is in the North Caucasus.

[fisherman]

I propose Putin to lead the contingent of peacekeepers at heights.

[Delink]

They can act out of silence. This is their whole essence.
Why listen to the UN Security Council, there amers twirl. And we just need to bring peacekeepers there and spit on Israel and others.

[fedorovith]

And Israel twirls amers.

[120352]

For some reason, I have no doubt that the Americans would fight back. Yes such that it would not seem a little. And the Israelis and the Syrians, so as not to miss. And ours, by tradition, human life, alas, does not cost anything.
And it is necessary to give change, otherwise the bandits will like to beat ours.

[shamil]

Our airborne forces somehow captured the airfield in Pristina without the "permission" of NATO. 200 paratroopers were ready to repel a British tank attack by taking a perimeter defense. the result of the airport slatina remained with us. which gave russia to dictate its terms.
With the golan, what is wrong to do? the general who received the order to knock out the Russians refused to fulfill the order, saying that even under the threat of trebunal he would not do this and unleash the 3rd world war

[Day 11]

I agree with you, more rigidity! The time for liberal ideas has passed. Someone who is stronger is right!

[mirag2]

Dear Professor, why do you think Israel is against the deployment of Russian peacekeepers in the Golan?

[Day 11]

Because witnesses are not needed! But to eliminate the witness does not work (possible consequences)

[mirag2]

No, of course. Here is another reason. Here, rather, this is: as long as there are NATO friendly Israelis, they are at the first occasion that arose on the border (if one of the Israelis is hooked, and it does not matter whose bullet (fragment)) they immediately enter troops to the territory — which they occupied in 1967 and she became their again.
Although, maybe, of course not. I would like to listen to people from there.

[Tourist Breakfast]

NATO-friendly NATO

In 2002, these very "Israel-friendly NATO members" filmed the abduction of an Israeli soldier by Hezbollah, preferring not to interfere.
In fact, they are most afraid of dealing with militants, so they fear for their asses.

[atalef]

Quote: mirag2

No, of course. Here is another reason. Here, rather, this is what: as long as there are friendly NATO Israelis,

there are no contingents from NATO countries in the Golan.

UNDOF originally included units of the armed forces of Austria, Canada, Peru and Poland. At present, there are also troops from India, Nepal, Slovakia, and Japan in the area.

[mirag2]

No, there’s another reason. That's what the DEBKA website writes:
1) The presence of Russian troops may prevent Israeli forces from crossing the border in the event of military necessity due to Israeli security interests.
2) The presence of Russian troops would upset the IDF's established relationship with the rebels undergoing treatment at Tel Hazaka hospital - seriously wounded are being transferred to hospitals in Haifa and Safed. Last week, the US military released photos showing the movement of Israeli special forces "in" and "from" Syria.
3) The possibility of Russian blue-handed officers interfering in the movement of Israeli troops on the Israeli side.
4) The likelihood of using a certain Russian contingent to collect information about the movements of Israeli troops in the north. Moreover, there is no way to prevent the transfer of this information to Hezbollah.
These are the pies. Our peacekeepers will NOT be there. And certainly not because "... 300 people there will not make the weather ...", "... yes with such equipment ...", but from - for the fact that they will prevent the IDF from jackals across the border back and forth (which the peacekeepers should do) and prevent the militants from treating them. Why are they being treated? They help Assad to weaken, and then, at the slightest excuse, the Jews-shny across the border, and that's it, ala-ulyu, chase the geese, they cannot be driven back. Nobody decides to them. Not the UN, nobody.

[Professor]

Read DEBK- do not respect yourself.

[mirag2]

Let me not respect myself, but the special forces of the IDF burned the amers as they ran back and forth? They burned the Israeli jeep from the "rebels" with electronic stuffing? They beat them off. Are they treating the wounded?
And if the IDF would be NEUTRAL, he would not.

[Pimply]

Do not read Debka. It's a bad tone

[mirag2]

Thanks, I’ll somehow decide for myself what is good for me and what is bad in tone.

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

Because witnesses are not needed! But to eliminate the witness does not work (possible consequences)

Witnesses of what?
Without the consent of Sov. Beza, Russia will not be able to send. And there will be no consent. For one simple reason, sending is easy; it’s hard to remove.
Russia is biased in this conflict, so there is no question of any neutrality.
Even taking into account the fact that servicemen are being removed from Russian subordination, but are subordinate to the UN. Everyone understands that this is only on paper.

[Day 11]

Sasha, you all perfectly understood what we can become witnesses! We won’t give you this. And there will be no no-fly zone!

[Professor]

Observers say because Russia is not neutral with Syria and Israel. Russia depends on the base in Syria and cannot be objective.
IMHO Putin will be able to negotiate Bibi’s consent, for example, in exchange for not supplying C-300.

[Komodo]

Quote: professor

Putin will be able to bargain for Bibi’s consent, for example, in exchange for not supplying the S-300.

Let's introduce a no-fly zone over 300 paratroopers! And disperse them throughout Syria.
Wow, Sshashka can be over strangers, but we can’t over our own?
We abandon the S-300. (you can always bring something else, or through another country, only QUIET, QUIET)

[mirag2]

Listening to these observers is even worse than reading to DEBK. It’s the same as hanging on your ears noodles.

[Day 11]

Once again I repeat: There is no conflict with Shiite Sunni Muslims! This is all brought from outside to Syria. Some believe in the Prophet Muhammad, others believe in his brother! Azerbaijanis (Shiites) and even a minuscule of Christians are fighting in the opposition. Assad is ready to change the constitution and declare an amnesty for those who did not kill PEACEFUL residents!

[Pimply]

Quote: Den 11

Some believe in the Prophet Muhammad, others in his brother!

Well, you have views on Shiism and Sunnism.

[Pimply]

Because Russia, for starters, is one of the parties to the conflict - it supports one of the main players. And no more than a month ago she announced her intention to deliver him an S-300. Would you let a judge knowingly bought by another team judge your match?

[mirag2]

What kind of support are we talking about? Intentions to put the S-300? Business, my friend, just business. Do not tell me this.

[Algor73]

I read comments like "... this clearly shows the whole essence of the Syrian" opposition "...". People wake up. Well, the Syrians were not divided into good and bad, such as the good - these are government troops, the bad - the opposition. They will unite anyway, will go over to one side or the other, there will be amnesty for one or the other, because both are the Syrian people, and all the others, incl. Russians are invaders for them. You need to face the truth, without the "pink" glasses. Think of Afghanistan. If these were slavs, then wherever it went. And the introduction of Russian peacekeepers is only to send the guys to war, under bullets. The assassination of a peacekeeper is not a reason to bring in a contingent of troops, for this is the beginning of World War III ...

[mirag2]

The Syrians were not divided into good and bad, they were divided by faith. On the one hand, the Sunnis, and on the other all the others.

[Day 11]

Man, do not write a blizzard! On this forum they have explained many times --- THERE A WAR IS NOT BY FAITH! IN THE ASADA ARMENIA, 50% SUNNI !!!

[Professor]

Quote: Den 11

IN THE ARMY ASADA-50% SUNNI !!!

Sunday tales.

[Day 11]

No, Citizen Professor, this is the evil truth of life! I talked with the Syrian (who is for Assad). You can grind this topic with respected Alibek, he knows this topic well!

[Tourist Breakfast]

In fact, among Arabs, a society consists of many clans (Hamula). Each clan has its own elders-sheikhs and they are often at odds with each other for centuries. So the division usually does not go according to the Sunnis - Shiites, etc., but just according to such Hamulas.

[Day 11]

It’s not like that for you! Russian Jews (just arrived) is the second grade. Believe me, many come back

[Tourist Breakfast]

It’s not like that for you! Russian Jews (just arrived) is the second grade. Believe me, many come back

This is not the case with us. First, we do not have our own "sheikhs" to whom we obey. Secondly, the absolute majority of "Russians" arrived in the early 90s and now they have already integrated themselves into society. And the next generation is the native Israelis. Among the Arabs, this division into hamuli has been preserved for centuries and enmity along with it.

[mirag2]

Maybe there are Sunnis in Assad's army, I don’t argue, but it’s the Sunni trend in Islam that makes war on everyone, even with "wrong" Muslims, for the purity of Islam, for a state governed not by secular laws, but by Sharia. I think that Shiites do not practice Wahhabism. No? Or Wahhabis can be there and there? If I converted to Islam and became a Wahhabite, I automatically became a Sunni, or what?

[Day 11]

No offense !!! Don’t poke around where you don’t understand anything! Everything is much deeper and more serious. There is no Sunni Shiite conflict (for now).

[Pimply]

And the men didn’t know (s)

[Rakti-kali]

Quote: mirag2

Maybe there are Sunnis in Assad's army, I don’t argue, but after all, it is the Sunni trend in Islam that makes war on everyone, even the “wrong” Muslims, for the purity of Islam.

Do you actually know the difference between Shiism and Sunism? Well, or between the Kharijits and Nizari?

[Day 11]

Weak! No 3rd World will not be, this is just a test of US for the strength of "eggs"

[shamil]

split up? Yes, on the opposition side there are only foreign thugs
if there are Syrians who believed in their righteous cause, then they will soon get amnesty and will peck foreigners. (as in Chechnya)

[Pimply]

On the side of government forces - also 8) Their Hezbollah guys and the IRGC somehow do not really fall under the definition of the Syrians and peaceful Dykhan.

[shinobi]

Unfortunately, shooting journalists by warring parties has become a world practice. Usually, the side that doesn’t need to cover events in the press begins to do this. The less information from the scene, the easier it is to engage in propaganda and counter-propaganda because it is impossible to determine the truth and verify the facts. the more difficult it will be for the Syrian opposites to provoke. Especially if they are neutral journalists who do not support the parties to the conflict.

[123_123]

It makes no sense for Russia to introduce peacekeepers into this knot of several problems - both the demarcation of Israel and Syria and the war between militants and the Syrian army and Israel's ambiguous relations with the Syrian opposition fighters plus Hamas from Israel and Hezbollah from Syria-Iran are not predictable enough, since they have some autonomy from specified countries. At least in the status of peacekeepers - it is definitely pointless - they will not be able to answer, not interfere, by and large, since the listed parties, except for the Syrian army, perhaps Hezbollah will not feel special reverence for the very fact of the presence of Russian soldiers in the Golan. Israel, of course, will not directly and officially attack the Russian peacekeepers, but it will help the militants with logistics and intelligence. You can imagine the approximate development of events in the future - Russian soldiers are attacked by militants, what will Russia do? Will bring a limited contingent to Syria to directly participate in the war against militants with possible retaliatory steps by our Western "friends" and a mandatory response from the countries of the Arabian Peninsula? Or just silently (or silently) will not react? What's the point of this input then? Is that Israel plans to get rid of the peacekeepers, but then this means an attempt "on the sly", taking advantage of the problems of Syria to finally pocket the Golan and possibly grab some more territory and will be accompanied by the introduction of the IDF on the Golan instead of peacekeepers, which may be unacceptable for the radical Muslim allies of the Syrian rebels (whatever you call them). It turns out that in case of bringing in peacekeepers, Russia has, roughly speaking, two options - to keep the soldiers there and wipe off, following the letters of the mandate, effectively not responding to attacks, or to join the war directly with unpredictable consequences, unknown duration of participation and unknown costs. Putin is doing everything right - why not talk about the possibility of bringing in peacekeepers - due to diplomacy, you can probably win a couple of points in negotiations with opponents in the UN Security Council, but really bringing in our peacekeepers is, IMHO, harmful, given the scenario that is visible now. The best form of participation is comprehensive technical and advisory assistance to our Syrian allies, besides, it is quite profitable - it is definitely better to sell any weapons to Syria (well, except weapons of mass destruction), this will help in resolving the conflict to our (Syrian-Russian) side and will give money that is unnecessary do not happen. There are 4 billion loans issued by Iran to Syria - we need to use this pool of funds to the maximum by supplying our equipment and training the Syrian military, otherwise everything will go to China and other countries.

[mirag2]

Quote: professor

Observers say because Russia is not neutral with Syria and Israel. Russia depends on the base in Syria and cannot be objective.
IMHO Putin will be able to negotiate Bibi’s consent, for example, in exchange for not supplying C-300.

Israel is not interested in stopping the supply of the S-300, it is beneficial for it to escalate the situation in order to draw the Americans into it. Whatever they send troops or there is a "no-fly zone" is already particular. But I would not be surprised if in "twenty" years it turns out that This is the Israeli special forces staged a provocation with chemical weapons. What to excuse and say that the water is not wet, when it is clear to everyone, even Netanyahu, that all this hat is beneficial to Israel from any side.

[Komodo]

Quote: 123_123

There are 4 billion loans granted by Iran to Syria - you need to use this pool of funds to the maximum extent possible by putting your equipment and training the Syrian military, otherwise everything will go to China and other countries.

I have long been proposing to the General Staff and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in the mornings on this site to debug
problematic issues. The activity of the brainstorming here is off scale. Bravo!

[orff]

This is just the beginning:
The leadership of Hezbollah intends to create a military fist of 50 fighters. To achieve this goal, you will have to call on almost all Shiites over the age of 18 - with or without parental consent.
A thousand US marines are deployed on the Syrian-Jordanian border, Iranian media reported.
At the beginning of last week, American infantrymen from the 26th expeditionary detachment arrived in the Jordanian port of Aqaba.
Americans “under a strong Jordanian escort” were transferred to the border with Syria. Washington and Amman refuse to comment on reports of the size and activity of the US military in the kingdom.

[shamil]

That’s just the time to send peacekeepers. Amer’s teachings are a bluff! You can drop anyone in Tarkus. Chechens from East to West will tear anyone!

[Day 11]

Poor just decimated East-West

[shamil]

And what are they doing now, 'where are they, after all, the secret services will not lose sight of such warriors? Mobilize to defend Islamic Syria

[Day 11]

Who-where. Mainly in the protection of Ramzan

[Truffoff]

Quote: shamil

And what are they doing now, 'where are they, after all, the secret services will not lose sight of such warriors? Mobilize to defend Islamic Syria

Where else in Syria. Only against Assad.

[falcon]

Our peacekeepers will instantly become the object of provocations for all parties to the conflict.
08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. Peacekeepers died, protecting our citizens, and now they will die for whom,
The 58th Army will not be behind! There will be a new 6th company! And then what, the new Afghanistan?

[Vitaly Anisimov]

The division there would be shelled in Afghanistan Chechnya .. with the latest helicopters .. !!!

[Captain Vrungel]

And how old is the youngest soldier fired at in Afghanistan now?
And what has Afghanistan taught and is the North Caucasus teaching?
The enemy is cunning and cunning, you will not take a bang.
Remember, being a guest, you are a potential enemy for the owner, and even more so for his neighbor.
And remember the main thing, we are unfaithful to them, unfaithful. They tolerate us when it is profitable for them, but at any moment they will remember, having killed the wrong one, Allah will open the gates to paradise.

[Pimply]

At least someone has an understanding.

[Day 11]

And WE are faithful to you? By the way, how is the word GOI translated?

[Rumata]

Quote: Den 11

By the way, how is the word GOI translated?

"The people", although you will probably be more satisfied with another, more popular in xenophobic circles and invented by them, option ...

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

And WE are faithful to you? By the way, how is the word GOI translated?

goyim is the plural of a word

Goy (Heb. גוי, plural גויים goyim), in modern Hebrew and Yiddish - the designation of a non-Jew (non-Jew in Judaism, is used in everyday speech in the meaning of “non-Jew” [1])

.
Of course you are a goy (just like my wife, by the way)
because a goy is simply not Jews, a Gentile, and nothing more.
is a Gent an insult?

[Pimply]

Like a people. Any people, by the way, including Jews, if you really want an accurate translation.

[datur]

[quote = Pimpled] Like a people. Any people, by the way, including Jews, if you really want an accurate translation. - nj that is, you do not deny that you consider yourself to be God's chosen people?

[Pimply]

Do you know that anyone can become a Jew? And that God's chosenness involves only following certain covenants. In the same way, Christians believe that the right Christians will go to heaven. Jews simply have more conditions for this, and more requirements. And religion is also a nationality. However, at the same time, any person can become a Jew, you just need to go through the giyur. In theory, you also believe in the God-chosen people of the Jewish people, if the Christian and the Bible did not just scroll through

[Day 11]

Eugene, thank you, I had fun! You tell this to your reb-you (believe me) it will not be a laughing matter because of your pace Wow, he’s like it! Come on tomorrow and ask in garlic, okay? And we will count the days when you appear on the site! Come on, do not breed your agitation here-We are the Orthodox!

[wanderer]

DEN, if you are Orthodox (as you say) you will not tell me where the name comes from, and what is the difference between Orthodoxy and Protestantism and Catholicism ??

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: professor

Quote: Atlon

Who is Israel ?! Such issues are resolved in the UN Security Council! As for peacekeepers: Consultations and coordination are underway.

You are not up to date. Without the consent of Israel, no peacemaker will set foot on the Golan. These are the rules sir.

But why ?? You didn’t particularly ask the UN and the countries that bombed .. !! Here we take and put pressure on me .. and some Jews in Russia .. and immediately give a sanction .. !!! Learning from you .. hehe

[atalef]

Quote: MIKHAN

Here we take and put pressure on me ... and some Jews in Russia ..and they will immediately give a sanction.

push Abramovich. Have a good laugh together.

[Day 11]

That's the question, why doesn’t he live in Russia? Is it easier to live there?

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

That's the question, why doesn’t he live in Russia? Is it easier to live there?

living there is easier and it’s not funny. Have you been to London by the way? Beautiful city. Museums just fly away.

[Day 11]

Where did I come from, Vanka-lapotnik! Next Zadrishchensk never!

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

Where did I come from, Vanka-lapotnik! Next Zadrishchensk never!

Well, not so much money. Actually, no matter what country you are in, there are many Russians everywhere. And in Milan - the impression is that all the women from Russia.

[Day 11]

And here your people (not the smartest) say that we only know how to dance a polka-butterfly with bears in an embrace!

[atalef]

Quote: Den 11

We can only dance a polka-butterfly with bears in an embrace!

The presence of people abroad and their behavior there. Two different things.
I never understood why such nice girls, and to swear like movers, even with children.
The conversation probably went on about this. in general, lately I have the impression that the mat has ceased to be slang, and has fully entered into the Russian language. This is terrible.

[Day 11]

Probably not only with us! You look at Hollywood movies-Fuck!

[Professor]

Quote: MIKHAN

But why ??

According to the rules written in the same UN, both parties must agree. The procedure is as follows. If all of a sudden the American "peacekeepers" wanted to settle on the border of Georgia and Russia at the Roskiy Pass, then Russia's consent would be necessary.

[True]

To be honest, I never realized that ours were forgotten in Syria. Do not care who is in power, Assad, Islamists or Yankees. This is neither hot nor cold for the population of Russia, in contrast to the increase in housing and communal services tariffs and non-oil prices.

[Day 11]

My friend, the site is confused? Here adult uncles talk

[True]

Oh, they trampled on, traitors of Russia, lovers of Assad.

[Day 11]

Change the flag, do not fall!

[Pimply]

You know, judging by most of the statements, I doubt it.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: falcon

Our peacekeepers will instantly become the object of provocations for all parties to the conflict.
08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. Peacekeepers died, protecting our citizens, and now they will die for whom,
The 58th Army will not be behind! There will be a new 6th company! And then what, the new Afghanistan?

Our company can be like the Army ... Because we are Russian !!

[Rumata]

Already slipped that more than once. Purely hypothetically, if Russia decides to send peacekeepers, why to the Golan Heights? Israel itself can protect itself, and wagons with the help of militants do not go across the Israeli border. If Russia really wants to influence the course of the war, why not the border with Lebanon or Turkey? That's where the work is more than enough! This is where the wings can be clipped to Assad’s foes. If Israel had decided to support one of the parties, then this side would have won for a long time, and in view of the relative neutrality, why lose money and, possibly, the lives of soldiers where they will be practically useless. Why not shut off supplies at other borders where there is complete chaos?
P.S
I do not mean peacekeepers of the Russian Federation from the UN, this is absurd. Decide on your own Russia, without the UN, to introduce peacekeeping forces to help Assad ...

[True]

EVERYTHING is actually very simple. Amid a disaster in domestic politics, Putin is trying to show off in foreign. And too lousy it turns out. Hence the constant raids of ships of the 70-80s and the rattling of weapons. Although the same Israel is utterly technologically superior.

[Pimply]

Just elections coming soon

[Day 11]

Dunduk, at least you’ll talk with Jewish comrades (you don’t tell me that they are idiots?) They will give you the whole alignment (if they consider it necessary, the truth is from their bell tower). e.a. and not just.

[mirag2]

I agree with everything, even with the fact that wagons do not go across the border — Israeli special forces are marching back and forth. The Americans took a picture.

[Goldmitro]

<<< Two days ago, Syrian militants fired at the Golan. As a result of the attack, two peacekeepers were injured. In addition, the region has repeatedly taken hostages of foreign military. >>>
From impotent anger, the Syrian opposition, one after another, no longer embarrassed to show their true face - the face of cavemen scumbags, for whom Islam, ravings about democracy - is a cover! The main thing for them is to rob and KILL: Syrian soldiers, civilians, peacekeepers, journalists, it does not matter who, it is important to KILL! This is the face of the shit democracy that the US and NATO are trying to impose on Syria now, as they had previously imposed on other Arab countries! But this time, it seems, they are waiting for a Bummer, including thanks to the help of Syria from Russia!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: professor

Quote: MIKHAN

But why ??

According to the rules written in the same UN, both parties must agree. The procedure is as follows. If all of a sudden the American "peacekeepers" wanted to settle on the border of Georgia and Russia at the Roskiy Pass, then Russia's consent would be necessary.

Well 2008 and the smile of your Bush we remember ..

[Darkheir]

As a result of the attack, two peacekeepers were injured. In addition, the region has repeatedly taken hostages of foreign military personnel. Peacekeepers from Canada, Croatia and Japan have already left the region. Contingent withdrawal hastily started and Austria.

But what kind of peacekeepers are they, if after the loss of 2 peacekeepers they hastily run away. And 3 of the 4 fleeing countries are members of NATO. Here they are powerful Western troops

[datur]

[quote = atalef] [quote = datur] Pimpled - and what you do not like our PEACEKEEPERS A ??? [/ quote]
Because Russia is interested in this conflict. pay attention that the Israeli is not seeking observers from either NATO or the USA, why, because they are not objective either (and the Rafah checkpoint is an example) As it was - let it remain. Yapi, Austria and Nepal. They are at least objective- RUSSIA !!!, always objective! WE are not interested in any conflicts !! They are simply unnecessary to us !!!! and you?

[datur]

[quote = Pupyrchaty] You know how much war costs, we RUSSIA are on the course, and you?

[Pimply]

It is doubtful. Have you been to war?

[mirag2]

Want to know more about the relationship between Israel and the United States in foreign policy?
Do not listen to friends from the country of a hexagonal star - just follow the link and see with your own eyes, do not buy demagoguery.
http://www.ips-dc.org/
http://www.debka.com/

[Pimply]

You are late, there are already dead American reporters. Already since 2012. AND?

[Thirsty for wind]

I am insolent ... You deigned to step over me !!!
The truth of nature will reap the benefits.

[datur]

Pupyrchaty- despite the fact that you are a Jew - I respect you !!! for you are the only one of your compatriots who persecutes the truth, mother !!! - not enough !!!!!

[Andrey Skokovsky]

Quote: professor

Despite this, the Syrian army introduced heavy equipment including tanks into the buffer zone. The corresponding note of protest was transmitted to the UN, and also through official channels the Syrian government was given a warning about the destruction of tanks in case of repeated violation of the ceasefire agreement of the 1974 year.

dear, I'm wondering
During the recent raid of your air force on Syria, several hundred Syrians (sort of like up to 400 people) were killed. How are you going to compensate Syria for these lives? Money? I wonder how much?

Or Syria now actually has a carte blanche for accidentally destroying the same number of Jews in some kind of operation,
Well, let's say they will spread the airdrome so that you fly less where you don’t need to, but don’t you pick it, maybe it’s like you should ???

[Professor]

Quote: Andrey Skokovsky

During the recent raid of your air force on Syria, several hundred Syrians (sort of like up to 400 people) were killed. How are you going to compensate Syria for these lives? Money? I wonder how much?

Not 400, but 40 thousand. yes, in general, all those killed in the civil war in Syria are killed by Israel. Proving nothing is necessary - this is understandable.

[Day 11]

Shame on you, professor! You are still milking Germany! Let them just blather, we ... ... Why, Professor?

[Ivanovich47]

Our reporters are brave people, but I think that civilians should not take such risks. On the issue of placing a peacemaker in the Golan Heights. If our military is stationed there, measures must be taken to ensure their safety.

[vadson]

This fact is interesting, in the next branch about Biden and Jews in the United States there is not a single comment from either the professor, pimply atalef. somehow strange they bypass this topic with their attention. Although it seems they should pay attention, what is the reason?

[Day 11]

Here went "kneading". They defend their point of view, we are ours!

[Pimply]

Do I need to comment on the nonsense? Don't think

[escobar]

video with information about the situation in Syria:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=h5yUwZkDzIM

[crasever]

The Syrian army is learning how to fight the terrorist scum - a troop of "oppositionists" who have just prepared to make a "demonstration" attack from a grenade launcher (with video filming, so as not to violate reporting), completely demolishes a shot of a government tank ...

[waisson]

a shameful report who fought know who and where shot, wait for them to be given the order of courage shame on walking this mure didn’t show not shame the journalist corps who really were reporting were wounded or they were killed heroes and here they’re putting real noodles

[falcon]

Actually, as I understand it, they fired at a military convoy, what happens in the war, and not exactly
a group of journalists. The military reporter is a profession of courageous people, and here 15 minutes
Apparently, there was no hot fight, loss, (thank God), and the reporter Poddubny raised noise
apparently. He wants to go on a campaign. It’s not solid, somehow, not like a man, yes
with such a glorious name!

[Russ69]

Meanwhile, the army took on Aleppo.

BEIRUT, June 9th. / Corr. ITAR-TASS Dmitry Zelenin. The main military front in Syria has shifted to the north of the country. According to a military source at Al-Manar television station, the Syrian command launched Operation Northern Storm to liberate Aleppo and its environs from armed extremists
According to him, the troops, with the support of armored vehicles, "have made significant progress since early morning, crushing the enemy’s strongholds in Khayyana, Anadan and Khareytan." In the northernmost capital of Syria, gangs of terrorists were knocked out of the quarters of Sheikh Masoud, Bustan al-Bash, Bustan al-Qasr and Amiria. The sources of resistance, the source noted, remain in Atarib and Kfar Hamra, where there are fierce battles.

"The Syrian army, which taught the armed groups a lesson in Al Quseir, will launch new attacks on the enemy until there are no terrorists or mercenaries left on Syrian soil," said Prime Minister Vail al-Khalki, quoted by Al-Watan news service today. According to him, Syria "is open to any initiatives to resolve the crisis, which will guarantee its sovereignty, independence and unity."