The United States sends missile systems and fighter jets to Jordan

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Patriot and F-16 are expected to take part in joint US-Jordanian military exercises, but after the event, they may not go back.

The Pentagon’s statement says that “after the completion of the exercises, some of these weapons may remain in the country, if requested by the Jordanian authorities.” Missile systems and fighters can increase the country's defense potential, which can be useful in the conditions of armed conflict in neighboring Syria.

However, accurate data on the number of weapons that will be used in the exercises are not reported. It is also unclear how much can remain in Jordan, writes AFP.

The American authorities immediately eliminated all suspicions that they were preparing for military intervention in the Syrian conflict, but noted that this could happen in the future. If so, then the United States is already ready for a good base for this: for example, at the beginning of the year, similar weapons were deployed in Turkey, which also borders Syria. And although Turkey and NATO themselves assured that we are talking only about defense, Russia regarded it as a step towards interference in the internal affairs of the SAR.

Russia believes that the deployment of F-16 and Patriot fighters in Jordan leads to pumping weapons to an explosive region. This was announced today by the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Alexander Lukashevich. “We recall that in Turkey, the batteries of the same air defense missile system, comparable in their tactical and technical characteristics to C-300, have already been deployed since the beginning of this year, and NATO fighters are also based there,” Lukashevich said. “We have repeatedly expressed our attitude to this — the pumping of a highly explosive region by foreign weapons takes place.”
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  1. +15
    5 June 2013 11: 23
    ... F-16 is supposed to take part in joint US-Jordanian military exercises, however after the event they may not go back

    said to the point. C-300 does not sleep laughing
    1. +2
      5 June 2013 11: 49
      Quote: self-propelled
      said to the point. C-300 does not sleep


      It would be nice to put the Iskander division there to protect Tartus, so that under the mattress trimers in the anal area it reaches 11-12 points on the Richter scale laughing
      1. domovoi
        +10
        5 June 2013 11: 51
        which division? sadly, Russia itself does not have so many ...
        1. +5
          5 June 2013 13: 53
          In Russia, Iskander 32 Launchers (PU)



          26th rocket The Neman Red Banner Orders of Suvorov, Kutuzov and Alexander Nevsky Brigade. In 2010, rearmament on Iskander. Total in the brigade (12 launchers)

          92 missile brigade. In January 2010, rearmament at Iskander. Total in the brigade (12 launchers)

          1th Guards Orshanskaya rocket orders of the Suvorov and Kutuzov brigade. In 2011, 4 Iskander launchers were delivered; by the end of 2013, it is also planned to re-equip 8 Tochka-U launchers to Iskander. During the exercises of the Caucasus School "Caucasus-2012", the team launched the OTR Iskander. Total in the brigade (4 launchers)

          630th Separate Missile Division The 60th training center for the combat use of missile forces of the ground forces, deployed at the Kapustin Yar training ground (South Military District), began rearmament in Kazakhstan 9K720 in 2005. On June 10, 2007, the rearmament of the division was completed; the Iskander RK was adopted. Total in the division (4 launchers)
        2. +1
          5 June 2013 15: 01
          I don’t think there are very few of them. I can add that there is better, but have not yet been put into service.
      2. +5
        5 June 2013 12: 37
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        Quote: self-propelled
        said to the point. C-300 does not sleep


        It would be nice to put the Iskander division there to protect Tartus, so that under the mattress trimers in the anal area it reaches 11-12 points on the Richter scale laughing


        It would be correct to say "tremor" and not "trimmer", the first is tremor, the second is a tool for removing part of something. On the other hand, removing part of the sitting position would not interfere with the peace process for some people.

        laughing
        1. +3
          5 June 2013 13: 14
          YEKATERINBURG, June 4 - RIA Novosti. An agreement between Russia and Syria for the supply of S-300 air defense systems has not yet been implemented, said Russian President Vladimir Putin.
          “As for the S-300 systems, this is indeed one of the best air defense systems in the world, probably the best. This, of course, is a serious weapon. We do not want to upset the balance in the region. The contract was signed several years ago. It has not yet been implemented, ”Putin said at a press conference following the Russia-EU summit on Tuesday.
          1. +1
            5 June 2013 13: 28
            Quote: True
            It has not yet been implemented, ”Putin said at a press conference following the Russia-EU summit on Tuesday.

            And the President is not lying ... the contract is REALIZED. Those. not fully implemented, I wanted to say GDP. But he said it as it should.
            1. +1
              5 June 2013 13: 43
              Quote: Akhtuba73
              And the President is not lying ... the contract is REALIZED. Those. not fully implemented, I wanted to say GDP. But he said it as it should.

              The Americans on the border with Syria, wanted and put (patriot, aviation), first they did it, as soon as possible and then announced.
            2. +1
              5 June 2013 13: 52
              Hmm ... Blessed is he who believes, warmth in the world!
            3. +1
              5 June 2013 13: 58
              Cleverly you think out, however! Probably, you make a sub-force from the letters П О Ж And the word happiness.
              1. 0
                5 June 2013 15: 44
                Quote: True
                Probably, you need to make a sub-force from the letters П О Ж And the word happiness


                + said beautifully.
          2. -2
            5 June 2013 14: 41
            Putin said this so that at least someone nt decided to fly over Syria (believing that the S-300 is still in Russia) ... And then HerRax !!! fellow
          3. Airman
            0
            5 June 2013 17: 21
            Quote: True
            YEKATERINBURG, June 4 - RIA Novosti. An agreement between Russia and Syria for the supply of S-300 air defense systems has not yet been implemented, said Russian President Vladimir Putin.
            “As for the S-300 systems, this is indeed one of the best air defense systems in the world, probably the best. This, of course, is a serious weapon. We do not want to upset the balance in the region. The contract was signed several years ago. It has not yet been implemented, ”Putin said at a press conference following the Russia-EU summit on Tuesday.

            While we are delivering the S-300, they will no longer be needed there. As the Russian proverb says: the way is spoon for dinner. And the lunch time will come soon, and the further our leadership will delay the supply, the closer it will be. they must do, they don’t give a damn about everything.
    2. +1
      5 June 2013 13: 31
      EC are needed faster than hypersonic missiles for all carriers, especially since there are achievements, and it is advisable not to bother, but to work efficiently to unite enterprises. I have a relative in Kaliningrad who is watching the sky, they seem to have united them with the fleet now in their submission. He talked about communication with sailors, and of course it came to aircraft carriers, and so for the USG Navy AUG, one of our submarines with anti-ship missiles, the more that shoots from underwater, is like a squirrel for a drunk, simply put, @ @ tsom. And for the US missile defense, it just needs ideal conditions for it to work. Old C 200 are already replaced by three hundred. About Iskander, it seems not yet.
    3. +6
      5 June 2013 14: 31
      The Syrian army is conducting an offensive north of Hama. Fan Al-Westani area freed



      The outflow of part of the gangs to the area of ​​the city of El Quseir in the province of Homs allowed the Syrian army to begin the liberation of the rural areas of the neighboring province of Hama. On Sunday, June 2, during a special operation of government troops, the area of ​​the village of Fan Al-Westani was liberated 18 kilometers northeast of the administrative center.

      The Syrian agency SANA reported, citing a military source, that in the village of Al-Westani, all terrorist shelters were destroyed, security and stability were fully restored. The gangs are also crushed in the neighboring villages of Fan Al-Qibli and Fan al-Shamali.

      Caves for storing and transporting weapons, equipped shelters and firing positions were discovered in a cleaned rural area. Dozens of explosive devices left by bandits were neutralized on the roads of the district and in the homes of local residents.

      Anas al-Naim, the governor of Hama province, has called on all utility companies to restore water and electricity supplies to the area destroyed by the fighting as soon as possible. In the near future, wired telephone communication will also be restored here. All communications were severely damaged after the seizure of the area by militants of the Islamist "brigades".

      Recall that on May 1, government troops liberated the Al-Farayah area near Hama and found two cylinders filled with sarin gas in one of the militants' hideouts. On the same day, the Syrian Air Force defeated on the Raqqa-Hama road a convoy of cars with terrorists heading to help gangs in the city of Al-Quseir, Homs province.
      1. +3
        5 June 2013 14: 47
        Right - BANDFORMING! And not the rebels and not otherwise otherwise ... And then some media write: rebels, civil war, who disagree with the Assad regime. I wonder what the Stripes would now say about the Indians of North America?
    4. +2
      5 June 2013 14: 32
      The Syrian army liberated the village of Dhareidzh at El Quseir and more than 10 villages in the province of Hama



      On the eve of June 3, the Syrian army destroyed the remains of one of the gangs in the village of Dharyedzh 6 km. east of the city of Al Quseir in the province of Homs. The SANA agency reports with reference to the army command that security and tranquility have been fully restored in the village.

      Operations by government and Hezbollah forces continue in and around the city of El Quseir. Militants of the Islamist "brigades" show stubborn resistance in the area of ​​the village of Ad-Dabaa.

      Islamists are reluctant to surrender their strongholds in this key locality. His loss will be the final verdict for the gangs blocked in Al Quseir, so reinforcements from Homs and other regions arrive in Ad-Dabaa.

      On June 3, two militant shelters were destroyed in the village of Ad-Dabaa, fighting for the village continues. The nearby airbase is under the control of government forces.

      In the city of Al Quseir, street battles took place mainly in the central and northern quarters. Skirmishes were recorded at the city hall, which was attacked by militants who made their way to the center through dug tunnels, as well as in the area of ​​the mosque and school. Several tunnels destroyed by the military.

      Government forces are developing an offensive north and northeast of Hama, where the Fan Al-Westani area was liberated on June 2. By the evening of June 3, 13 settlements had already been liberated here, more than a hundred militants from various Islamist groups were destroyed, two terrorist training camps "Jabhat al-Nusra" were destroyed.

      Security has been restored in the villages of Murayvid, Al-Mubattan, Taibat al-Ism, Samra, Abu Mansaf, Shataa, Jnaina, Abu Samra and others. The defeat of the Islamist group north-east of Hama makes it possible to liberate the entire east of the province.
    5. +3
      5 June 2013 14: 33
      Two leaders of the Jabhat al-Nusra group were killed in the province of Homs



      Two major leaders of the radical Islamist group Jabhat al-Nusra were killed in Homs province on June 4. On the eve, in the administrative center of the province, intense fighting continued in the northern regions of Al-Khalidiyah, Juriyet Al-Shayah, Bab-Hood and Al-Karabis.

      The most violent clashes, according to both sides of the conflict, took place in the Bab Khud area. Government forces covered the bandits' command center, where more than 10 ordinary militants were killed, and with them the commander of the Islamists of all "battalions" "Jabhat al-Nusra" in Bab-Hood Muhammad Mahmoud Al-Khelyu.

      On the same day, in the city of Telbis, north of Homs, several shelters of bandit formations were destroyed during an army operation. In one of them, the commander of the largest in the settlement of the Jabhat al-Nusra formation, Muhammad Sveis, was killed.

      The resistance of Islamist militants continues in the northern districts of the city of El Quseir. Here, in the course of hostilities on June 4, several gun emplacements were eliminated. Members of Jabhat al-Nusra are showing especially fierce resistance. Representatives of this organization are fanatics, most of whom will no longer take the path of correction and must be destroyed. At the same time, more than 20 fighters from the Al-Farouk Brigade laid down their arms and surrendered to the Syrian military.

      The militant group, which settled in the village of Ad-Dabaa, was completely blocked on June 4. The fighting went beyond the village of Al-Bouweida Al-Sharqiya, located to the north. With the liquidation of gangs in Al-Dabaa and Al-Bouweid Al-Sharqiyah, the operation in Al-Quseyr could significantly accelerate and be completed in the coming week. Islamists are trying to prevent this and are sending additional armed groups to Al Quseir. On June 4, two groups of bandits trying to infiltrate the city were destroyed.
    6. +3
      5 June 2013 14: 34
      Syrian army completely freed Al Quseir from militants





      The command of the Syrian armed forces today announced the complete liberation and restoration of security in the city of Al Quseir in the province of Homs. According to the SANA agency, the troops carried out several quick attacks on the key positions of the militants in the northern regions, after which the remnants of the gangs fled the city.

      Shortly before today's special operation in El-Quseir, the last tunnels of the bandits were discovered and eliminated, which made it possible to prevent their inconspicuous movement from one area to another. Al-Ikhbariya TV channel reports that in the course of today's hostilities, several hundred militants were killed, and a large number were captured.

      The backbone of the "brigades" of Islamists from the Jabhat al-Nusra was almost completely destroyed. Militants from other formations, most notably the At-Tawhid Brigades and Al-Farouk Brigades, chose to flee the city. Some of them surrendered to government forces.

      Islamist sources have already acknowledged the loss of El Quseir. Leaders of radical Islamist groups in social networks announced a "retreat from the city." Several groups of militants "remained behind to cover the retreat of their comrades and the civilian population."

      Currently, most of El Quseir is destroyed. There are no civilians left in the city, and the “civilian population” that the Islamists write about are members of the families of militants or their accomplices. Streets, buildings, rooms are mined. Dozens of various explosive devices have already been defused, and in the near future a lot of work is to be done to clear the city so that it can be called safe in the full sense of the word.

      The battle for El Quseir began on May 12, when government troops, having liberated most of the villages between the city and the Lebanese border, launched an operation to destroy the gangs that created a transshipment point for arms supplies and the transfer of militants from Lebanon to Syria. The battles for El Quseir lasted 25 days.
    7. +4
      5 June 2013 14: 43
      Fresh video from Syria

      The episodes of the assault. Attack


      Brief summary of the situation in Syria from May 31 to June 2, 2013


      Brief summary of the situation in Syria for June 3, 2013


      Brief summary of the situation in Syria for June 4, 2013
      1. +1
        5 June 2013 16: 11
        on the first video from 6.35 sec. - non-penetration from RPGs. In general, the army is in no hurry, aimed shooting, which indicates experience. Well done, good luck to them.
  2. SCS
    SCS
    +1
    5 June 2013 11: 29
    “After the completion of the exercises, some of these weapons may remain in the country if requested by the Jordanian authorities”

    not well! went to vigorous action ame-ry!
    Syria can now be armed with offensive weapons! although ... at least the S-300 would be delivered! and then judging by the latest information, things are not going in this direction in a hurry!
    1. +17
      5 June 2013 11: 43
      Quote: ....
      In Russia, it is believed that the deployment of F-16 and Patriot fighters in Jordan leads to the pumping of weapons in an explosive region.


      And this is by chance not the same Jordan where Russia opened a production complex for the production of RPG-32 "Hashim"? And who openly supports terrorists in Syria? Something I do not really like this policy
      1. domovoi
        +3
        5 June 2013 11: 45
        vadivak, but paper earned, as you do not understand?
        1. +3
          5 June 2013 12: 06
          Quote: domovoi
          vadivak, but paper earned, as you do not understand?


          I understand, therefore, I do not like it, I'm glad that you are not mistaken
      2. +2
        5 June 2013 12: 08
        Quote: Vadivak
        Something I do not really like this policy

        And who likes bear politics ?! If the memory serves, the contract for the plant was signed with him.
        1. +1
          5 June 2013 12: 53
          Quote: Oleg147741
          And who likes the Jewish policy of the bear


          Oleg was no longer a Jew, but a pro-Israel one. Let's not violate the rules of the site and generally disrespect nationalities
          1. +3
            5 June 2013 13: 27
            I agree, sorry! It was Israeli that I meant! The stereotype worked. I have absolutely nothing against the Jews!
            1. +2
              5 June 2013 13: 53
              I agree, sorry! It was Israeli that I meant!


              Yeah, Israel is delighted that a plant for the production of advanced RPGs has opened in Jordan. Think what you write!
      3. Airman
        +1
        5 June 2013 17: 08
        Quote: Vadivak
        ]

        And this is by chance not the same Jordan where Russia opened a production complex for the production of RPG-32 "Hashim"? And who openly supports terrorists in Syria? Something I do not really like this policy


        Our Rosoboronexport believes that money doesn’t smell, and at the sight of chubby packs of "green" they light up their eyes. And we will sell the SU-35 to China. This is not politics - this is ALCHNOST. If only to get money and share (between their own).
    2. Ruslan_F38
      +4
      5 June 2013 11: 48
      So I don’t understand why the amers do what they want, and they don’t give a damn about all the sanctions, and we can’t even put the s-300 to the end, we coordinate everything with someone, we report to someone!
      1. domovoi
        +4
        5 June 2013 11: 52
        because the amers are cunning, and Russia after 1985 - let’s say so semi-dependent (not quite a colony) on the United States.
        1. +5
          5 June 2013 12: 10
          The United States has long been a colony of Israel. Where did you see in our power amers ?! Almost Judas alone! And although many people do not like Putin, I can say that if it were not for him and his team (or his team with him), they would have already surrendered Syria. And this also shows that he is not theirs!
          1. domovoi
            +1
            5 June 2013 12: 15
            what prevents him from removing them from power?
            1. +1
              5 June 2013 13: 30
              And there are many of them and they are almost everywhere. Hitler did not succeed, and instead of observing the agreement on not attacking the USSR, he went to war. Who unleashed and to whom it was profitable is obvious, but for everything the German and Soviet peoples were blown away. And the Germans even pulled the yoke after the war. At least pay compensation to a country that didn’t even exist, is it not an incident, or is it direct confirmation of this ?!
              1. +1
                5 June 2013 16: 45
                Well, dear, how many complexes do you have. But say, you have nothing against the Jews. Here you have a worldwide conspiracy, and other delights. Bravo.
          2. +1
            5 June 2013 17: 03
            Not yet evening...
    3. +3
      5 June 2013 12: 07
      Quote: SCS
      and then judging by the latest information, things are not going in this direction in a hurry!

      Apparently nothing at all! Without the S-300 and the cover forces of these complexes, amers unfortunately will tear Syria! Why can't we afford what the French, small-shavens and amers do ?!
      1. domovoi
        +1
        5 June 2013 12: 12
        is it really that hard to understand? because Russia is no longer a world power, alas ... the influence on the world stage is minimal, except among the countries of the 3rd world .. the army is still holding on, but it’s baffling when 1 person (yes, Serdyukov) could do it himself such, and no one tried to prevent him from doing his reforms. gets amers enough to put his man in this post and that's it, the army is over? foreign policy - it’s working badly, internal - I won’t mention the Caucasus ... what else - oh yes, an abundance of billionaires. all of course honestly earned ...
        1. +1
          5 June 2013 12: 28
          It has no influence so much that the leaders of the "influential" countries in the queue on the carpet to the Feisty, swear with each other))
          My dear man, but tell me please, except in the countries of the 3rd world, where is all the geopolitical struggle going on now?
          I certainly understand that the question is rhetorical, but "Someone in the world now (in any country) has in himself the absence of problems comparable to ours?
        2. +2
          5 June 2013 13: 32
          Quote: domovoi
          because Russia is no longer a world power,

          No, my friend, world and what a world! There is no need here to develop an inferiority complex for us.
      2. +1
        5 June 2013 12: 14
        they have a shortcut from Khan
      3. Conepatus
        +2
        5 June 2013 12: 54
        They will also tear with the S-300, only they will tear longer. The point is not that.
        Imagine a country, no matter what, any country in which there is a US base.
        An internal conflict has begun in this country. And this country is being bombed, motivating everything with the “protection of the civilian population.” Who dares to do this? on the territory of another country, then you MUST protect this country from external interference. There is a Russian base in Syria, why is it bombed?
        That is the point.
        PS They’re not bombing Syria, bombing the authority of Russia.
        1. +1
          5 June 2013 14: 22
          Quote: Conepatus
          There is a Russian base in Syria, why is it being bombed?

          In Syria there is no base in the American sense, there is only a point of material and technical supply of the fleet.
          1. +1
            5 June 2013 16: 46
            And it’s very small. Until recently, there were 2 people.
      4. Nitup
        0
        5 June 2013 15: 39
        At the end of the talks in Warsaw, a German journalist directly asked Lavrov if Russia would supply S-300 to Syria? And he received the following answer: "Russia has long ago sold and signed contracts. And it is completing the supply of equipment under the signed contracts, which are anti-aircraft systems. This is not prohibited by any international norms. This is a defensive weapon. the importer state was able to protect itself from air strikes. Which, as we know, is not a very fantastic scenario. "
        Judging by these statements, if the C-300 was not installed there, then they put some other systems, maybe Buk and Torah.
        1. Conepatus
          0
          5 June 2013 15: 51
          "Buk" and "Shell" have been there for a long time.
          They could send the Chechen brigade to Ossetia once, and reward them with more medals. After all, for the sake of chance, a Chechen walking through his native village, with his chest hung with medals, would tear those mercenaries like a Tuzik heating pad.
  3. +2
    5 June 2013 11: 29
    In Russia, it is believed that the deployment of F-16 and Patriot fighters in Jordan leads to the pumping of weapons in an explosive region.

    Duck, let's quickly pump Syria S-300.
    1. 0
      5 June 2013 11: 31
      Quote: Denis
      Duck let's quickly pump Syria C-300

      and not only C-300 soldier
      1. domovoi
        +2
        5 June 2013 11: 44
        radically S-300 will not change anything. the forces of the us and allies (whore * k) are many times superior, even if Russia and Iran harness together ...
        1. +3
          5 June 2013 11: 59
          Quote: domovoi
          the forces of the usa and allies (whore * k) are many times superior, even if Russia and Iran harness together ..

          and what to do now? everything is lost! we are waiting! so what?
          as long as Russia opposes itself to a "many times superior" crap society, there is hope for a fragile peace ...
          1. 0
            5 June 2013 12: 02
            Quote: self-propelled
            and what to do now? everything is lost! we are waiting! so what?

            Yes, Russia will never surrender to anyone, and if the United States gets involved in a war with us, the outcome will be one world will cease to exist. And do not pay attention to the punchers who did not pay attention; they always were and will be!
            1. domovoi
              0
              5 June 2013 12: 06
              I plan SNF situation is much better. but in regional conflicts, you see, this is an extreme option. you in Chechnya or Afghanistan will not be slamming weapons of mass destruction?
              1. 0
                5 June 2013 12: 11
                Quote: domovoi
                you in Chechnya or Afghanistan will not be slamming weapons of mass destruction?

                No brainer, no, but you are considering a collision with America!
                1. domovoi
                  -1
                  5 June 2013 12: 14
                  not from the us but napirmer in syria. Just imagine, the United States and the Allies invaded Syria. What will Russia be able to do? NOTHING! absolutely. even against Israel will not trample ...
                  1. +1
                    5 June 2013 12: 28
                    wait and see, there is no point in arguing.
        2. +1
          5 June 2013 12: 12
          Quote: domovoi
          radically S-300 will not change anything. the forces of the us and allies (whore * k) are many times superior, even if Russia and Iran harness together ...

          Why did you get that ?! Let's then just sit and pick in the nose, and suddenly it will "resolve" itself ?! What nonsense!
          1. domovoi
            0
            5 June 2013 12: 17
            I don’t say picking my nose. I propose re-industrialization. that is, as soon as possible to increase the rate of entry into the army of new weapons. and not as it is now - ships have been building for 8 years, planes - 20 for a year. Well, to develop space. these are strategic directions
            1. +2
              5 June 2013 13: 34
              I agree with you 100%, but there is one "BUT". This is the inertia of the country's development. Until now, we have been living off the potential of the USSR and will lose more than one year to repay the negative effect of the 90s.
              1. +1
                5 June 2013 21: 50
                Yeah, and 00, xx10
            2. +2
              5 June 2013 16: 48
              Money, specialists. What are you ready to trim for this? The budget is not rubber
          2. 0
            5 June 2013 16: 48
            4 batteries of 6 rockets. Do you really think that they can strongly do something against a competent breakthrough?
            1. 0
              5 June 2013 16: 51
              4 batteries are 96 rockets ready to launch.
              1. 0
                5 June 2013 23: 53
                Where did 96 come from?
                1. 0
                  6 June 2013 00: 04
                  4 batteries of 6 units of 4 TPU each. Total 96 ready.

                  Air defense men can correct, but as far as I remember, 4 starting batteries are one division.
    2. +5
      5 June 2013 12: 09
      Quote: Denis
      Duck, let's quickly pump Syria S-300.


      Fine. Start to download?
      1. +2
        5 June 2013 12: 24
        Quote: Vadivak
        Start to download?

        right now, just connect the pump
      2. Rustiger
        +7
        5 June 2013 13: 48
        Quote: Vadivak
        Fine. Start to download?

        We are already downloading! Tell me when it’s scary enough. ... ...
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        1. +2
          5 June 2013 13: 56
          Quote: Rustiger
          We are already downloading! Tell me when it’s scary enough. ... ...


          Such statements like let’s pump up on me, let’s put on, arm, bored, like adults, when you’re in the State Duma and will offer to pump and deliver, why shake the air?

          This is not natural for you.
          1. Rustiger
            +3
            5 June 2013 14: 15
            Quote: Vadivak
            when you are in the State Duma then you will offer to pump and deliver, why shake the air?

            I understand, Vadim. Therefore, I wanted ts. "defuse the situation" with such pictures. And then mercilessly minus "brownie" for his posts. But in his words I do not hear the calls of "all the scummers", but constructive criticism of the situation and the role of Russia in the world and a sound assessment of the situation in Syria. hi
        2. Rustiger
          +4
          5 June 2013 14: 01
          Well, let's "swing" a little more. Just in case -
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        3. alexkross83
          +2
          5 June 2013 15: 37
          But these toys, oh, as needed, among other things, for solving tactical tasks and identifying the likely directions of enemy aviation strikes. A wise one who does not run with a saber and screaming at the tank, and one who solves problems with minimal loss of people and equipment.
  4. shamil
    +4
    5 June 2013 11: 30
    amers simply arrogantly arming and then provoking a war
    1. domovoi
      -7
      5 June 2013 11: 37
      this is already known to all. what's the point? no one can do anything. including Russia and China. It’s stupid to try to resist a country that can buy anything and anyone for paper
    2. 0
      5 June 2013 11: 51
      Quote: shamil
      amers simply arrogantly arming and then provoking a war

      That's for sure ... But I wonder what kind of howling mattress mattresses will raise if the Iskanders are put in Syria? Half of the White House will come to Moscow for permanent residence, and Jews too, but what about the development of tourism ...
      1. domovoi
        +3
        5 June 2013 11: 54
        what are the iskander? Do you believe in fairy tales or something? without the permission of the usa, russia cannot even put up a defense, not like an iskander. and the units of iskander themselves ...
        1. 0
          5 June 2013 12: 00
          Quote: domovoi
          what are the iskander? Do you believe in fairy tales or something?

          Well, why are fairy tales ... You read my post carefully:
          Quote: ziqzaq
          if to put the Iskanders in Syria?

          the key word here is "if"
          1. domovoi
            0
            5 June 2013 12: 07
            I realized. but this is basically unrealistic. tales in other words ... alas, of course
        2. +2
          5 June 2013 14: 28
          Quote: domovoi
          without permission usa russia

          If it were as you write, Assad would not be in Syria! hi
        3. Airman
          0
          5 June 2013 18: 19
          Quote: domovoi
          what are the iskander? Do you believe in fairy tales or something? without the permission of the usa, russia cannot even put up a defense, not like an iskander. and the units of iskander themselves ...


          Maybe yandiya can deliver anything without the permission of the mattresses?
    3. 0
      5 June 2013 13: 10
      Between whom they will "provoke a war. In Syria, hostilities are going" successfully "between the" opposition "(who actually acts as" cannon fodder "under this word) and the Syrian armed forces (government troops). All sorts of" Hamas " , “hesbulls”, other “interested parties,” and then there “fuss.” So everything is successfully provoked, even before the first shot.
  5. +9
    5 June 2013 11: 32
    quote-The American authorities immediately ruled out all suspicions that they were preparing for military intervention in the Syrian conflict, but noted that this could happen in the future.

    You don’t have to be a strategist to understand one axiom. It is a systematic process of pumping weapons around the perimeter of the Syrian borders. Vladimir Putin spoke about the balance of forces. This is precisely the balance that is being violated, which means that there is already a reason for the delivery of C-300 , but most likely the special services and analysts of Russia have already foreseen such a course of events and, in turn, have taken proactive measures.

    quote from Alexander Romanov-Alexander Romanov Today, 07: 39 | It's only the beginning
    Quote: igor67
    Putin: S-300 air defense systems have not yet been delivered to Syria
    Hi Igor! Putin did not say that Syria is not delivered With 300. He said that it was not implemented, but here it can be understood in different ways. The contract will be implemented when the delivery is complete.- catch the thought
    http://topwar.ru/index.php?do=lastcomments&userid=18619
    1. domovoi
      -1
      5 June 2013 11: 38
      there will never be balance. if they want, they will * consume Syria in 1 day. compare forces. and Russia, even with all its armed forces, cannot resist the United States and the mongrels combined.
      1. 0
        5 June 2013 11: 44
        Well, then not only are we in the world on the side of Syria and if everyone connects from two sides, the 3rd world will begin! But this will not happen, I think so 99,9999999 percent. Well, this is my personal opinion.
        1. domovoi
          0
          5 June 2013 11: 47
          come on! who else is Iran, North Korea and Venezuela? china won't go
          1. +1
            5 June 2013 11: 51
            Quote: domovoi
            china won't go

            America in World War II also didn’t immediately enter the war, China also has an interest, so I think it just won’t be able to look at everything from the outside for a long time.
      2. phantom359
        +2
        5 June 2013 11: 44
        Quote: domovoi
        there will never be balance. if they want, they will * consume Syria in 1 day. compare forces. and Russia, even with all its armed forces, cannot resist the United States and the mongrels combined.

        He will not be able to resist in an adult way, but he will thoroughly spoil the blood, and for the Americans, this is quite enough not to start hostilities with Russia. New weapons and trained personnel, here. what is needed first of all to talk with "partners" as equals.
        1. domovoi
          +5
          5 June 2013 11: 50
          and where to get them, this staff and weapons? Russia itself is not enough ... but why? because instead of arming ourselves, we are engaged in olympiads and purchases of 13-room apartments. and this is in the highest ranks of officials ...
          1. shamil
            0
            5 June 2013 16: 40
            what are you doing with the olympiad?
            1. domovoi
              +1
              5 June 2013 18: 42
              Something seems to me that those billions, some of which may have been really sawn, could have been better spent.
              1. shamil
                -2
                6 June 2013 07: 20
                better is how? are you going to the olympiad? You see
                how people turned from a monkey, they immediately began to chop off something with each other to cheat. Here you go and you look as if they could be spent better. In Ukraine, because of the Olympics, the devil knows what it would be. Only money
            2. Rustiger
              -1
              6 June 2013 02: 41
              Quote: shamil
              what are you doing with the olympiad?

              And you, as a Tatar or a Bashkir, will greatly amuse (patriotically exalt) the current antics in Kazang?
              Is it, as an "all-Russian measure", is it strongly necessary in conditions when the whole world is spending energy on armaments? Doesn't it remind you of anything from history?
              "Feast during before the plague. ... . "
              1. shamil
                -2
                6 June 2013 07: 08
                afraid of the plague? build a bunker in the depths of our vast homeland
        2. Rustiger
          +1
          5 June 2013 14: 32
          Quote: phantom359
          He will not be able to confront the adult, but he will ruin the blood thoroughly, and for the Americans it’s quite enough not to start military operations with Russia.

          Now it is enough for Russia not to "help" amers in Afghanistan and to tightly seal its borders with Sr Asia. Amer there "grab grief" and without us. And with Syria, the position has been announced. The main thing is not to wag your tail and "not cut in the back." Then the World War will be POSTPONED, which is the primary necessity for Russia at this stage.
      3. 0
        5 June 2013 12: 19
        Quote: domovoi
        Russia, even with all of its armed forces, cannot resist the United States and mongrels combined.

        Well, then we can say that Russia and Israel can consume + read in a couple of hours and nothing will happen to her either! This clot rotted on the body of the earth and tactical is not a pity. Amer hundred pounds only scratch their tongues, but do not climb!
        So there is nothing to talk about extremes here and about the "great" power of the swordsmen!
        In general, bro Ukrainians among you, after all, there are also those who are not comrades to us! Who shot down our planes for a small stack of green in 2008 ?!
      4. +1
        5 June 2013 14: 02
        Quote: domovoi
        if they want to - consume * crust Syria in 1 day

        Once upon a time, some king decided to occupy Sparta. He went to the city, wrote an ultimatum, something like:
        - “If I, the Spartans, conquer your city, I will erase it from the face of the earth, I will kill the men, and I will sell women and children into slavery ...”
        Soon the answer came from Sparta. One single word was written on a piece of parchment:
        - "IF A"!
        laughing
        Weird coincidence:
        Three hundred Spartans, SAM also S-300.
        what
      5. +4
        5 June 2013 16: 27
        Quote: domovoi
        there will never be balance. if they want, they will * consume Syria in 1 day. compare forces. and Russia, even with all its armed forces, cannot resist the United States and the mongrels combined.

        Brownie! You are excited in earnest! I suggest cool a little and reflect over what you said.
        Syria is a donkey on which the parties’ readiness to go to the end is checked. Here the question does not play: who is thicker and longer, here the question comes first: are you ready to die, but not to offend a friend. And these are questions not even of strategy, but of politics, I would say GREAT POLICY.
        If the Russian Federation, like the USSR in 1956, during the war of England and France against Egypt, says: one more step - and we will use nuclear weapons, and even the PRC and Iran will support us. Then the United States and K * will think three times: is it worth dying for? The old Europe will definitely be guessed. It’s bold, satisfying and gay - nobody wants to fight.
        Now there is a demonstration of determination and strengthening of the position in the negotiations.
        So there is a game of nerves and a tug-of-war ahead of the Geneva-2 negotiations. IMHO.
    2. +5
      5 June 2013 16: 09
      Quote: Apollon
      No need to be a strategist to understand ... there is a systematic process of pumping weapons around the perimeter of the borders of Syria.

      Yes it is. But I am interested in the question: why no one remembers the intention of the United States and 18 other countries to conduct maneuvers at the beginning of JULY (they declared them as "exercises", but in terms of the composition of the coalition these are maneuvers!) Called "Awake (?) Lion".
      And here need to be a strategist: issues of combat coordination and interaction of the Coalition forces will be addressed. And the states are behind the COALITION and it’s like, no matter what! Extremely comfortable position.
      Our troops are pulling into the region everything that is on the move in the Navy: "Kuznetsov", "Kulakov" bpk go to the region of Syria. The boats are not reported, but I am sure: there are already at least 3 of them.
      So, if we have the same resolve as in 1956, then Syria can be defended.
  6. sashka
    +6
    5 June 2013 11: 34
    So the question is resolved. It remains to stock up on seeds and wait. Our YES today and yesterday buzzed the whole day. It just doesn't happen that way.
    1. +1
      5 June 2013 19: 52
      Namesake! Everything suggests that we are on the eve of a big schucher. At the time of the Arab-Israeli wars, we always preempted the amers in deploying our forces. Interesting: the current skills of the drivers still have the same skills, or also according to the p .. de mixer!
      And the distant one is a symptom!
  7. +7
    5 June 2013 11: 34
    Can we stir up teachings with Iran bully ??
    1. 0
      5 June 2013 11: 40
      good at the same time neighboring countries can put in the region a large batch of corvalol and valerian laughing
    2. phantom359
      +3
      5 June 2013 11: 45
      Quote: avant-garde
      Can we stir up teachings with Iran bully ??

      It would not hurt.
    3. -2
      5 June 2013 12: 20
      avant-garde: can we stir up teachings with Iran ???
      It would be nice before the elections in Qatar!
      1. Cat
        +2
        5 June 2013 12: 27
        Quote: knn54
        It would be nice before the elections in Qatar!

        Qatar is an absolute monarchy. What kind of elections are there ?! =))
        1. +3
          5 June 2013 12: 48
          Cat: election to the Advisory Board!
          PS It seems that they no longer hope for Turkey ...
          PP.S If the S-300 is being delivered, then this is a defense of the "bloody" regime, and if Patriot is "for the balance of power."
        2. 0
          5 June 2013 14: 33
          Quote: Cat
          Qatar is an absolute monarchy. What kind of elections are there ?!

          And I mean the same! Why is there no free expression of the will of the people in Qatar !!!! We urgently start "democratization" !!!! hi
          1. 0
            5 June 2013 20: 48
            Quote: ultra
            Why is there no free expression of the will of the people in Qatar !!!! We urgently begin "democratization" !!!!

            Qatar is a disease that is easily treated.
    4. SCS
      SCS
      +1
      5 June 2013 13: 10
      Quote: avant-garde
      Can we stir up teachings with Iran bully ??

      it is even necessary! because in case of conflict, joint actions will already be worked out !!!!
  8. fenix57
    0
    5 June 2013 11: 47
    , You know, members of the forum, .. and, itself Primorsky South and the whole "SUETA" on Syria is taken closer to the HEART than "BESETNYA" around Sobyanin AND THIS pleases and instills AT THE SAME TIME ... Although in the media on the contrary.! Moscow (and this is not a heart, it is a PURSE ..) ..., I am sure, for the FAR EAST, it is a monster who buys EVERYTHING FOR HIMSELF!
  9. Grigorich 1962
    +2
    5 June 2013 11: 51
    THE BRIC COUNTRIES ARE ALSO GOOD TO LEARN THE EXERCISES TO MUSTER NEAR THE BORDERS OF SYRIA,
    But seriously, it is time for our Armed Forces to ALREADY BEGIN TO WET THE SYRIAN TERRORISTS BY OWN FORCES. THEY ARE ALREADY AT OUR EMBASSY SHOOTING AND WE DELIVER ANYTHING OF THINGS 9 BEFORE THE TIME, IT IS NOT CLEAR THAT0. there is a Black Sea Fleet, there is a base in Armenia ..... the presence of militants is known .... to enlist the support of Assad ... and to drench ... to drench .... and in the toilet too ..... so that all these desires the radicals no longer roar at Russia.
    1. SCS
      SCS
      0
      5 June 2013 13: 13
      Quote: Grigorich 1962
      TIME TO ALREADY BEGIN TO WET THE SYRIAN TERRORISTS OWN FORCE. THEY ARE ALREADY OUR EMBASSY SHOOTING AND WE DELIVER ANYTHING THINGS 9 BEFORE THE TIME IT IS NOT ACCURATE THAT0

      I think that everything has already been planned, and judging by the actions of the "hearth of democracy", they are just waiting for the start of a big slaughter! we must somehow get out of the crisis ...
  10. pa_nik
    +1
    5 June 2013 11: 53
    everything is twisting ... angry
  11. +2
    5 June 2013 12: 00
    Conduct exercises with Iran, send a brigade of marines to Tartus and conduct exercises to repel an attack on a naval base, reinforce the marines with armored vehicles, ground attack aircraft and Tochka-U complexes for exercises with appropriate strengthening of the base air defense smile
    And to report that "after the end of the exercises, some of the weapons will remain at the base to ensure the safety of Russian specialists." laughing
    1. 0
      5 June 2013 13: 13
      "163 Saratov contract soldiers are being prepared for a peacekeeping mission in Syria" - I read the material with this title today. full text here: http://www.vzsar.ru/news/2013/06/05/163-saratovskih-kontraktnika-gotovyat-k-miro
      tvorcheskoi-missii-v-sirii.html
      1. +2
        5 June 2013 19: 58
        Quote: max73
        a contract soldier is being trained for a peacekeeping mission in Syria "

        And BDK all came out with reinforced companies on board. We carried out firing from a hand (wearable) weapon ... What lies ahead?
  12. 0
    5 June 2013 12: 05
    In my opinion, F-16 and Patriot systems can be used in attacks on both Syria and Iran.
  13. +2
    5 June 2013 12: 26
    Maybe for us with Belarus, China and Iran with Kazakhstan and even cavalry from Mongolia, at the same time, the teachings will be bored?
  14. drill187
    +2
    5 June 2013 12: 40
    And inform that; at the end of the exercises, some of the weapons will remain at the base to ensure the safety of Russian specialists



    The main thing is that the spirit of our leadership would be enough!
  15. 0
    5 June 2013 12: 51
    And what prevents us from conducting exercises, and even leaving something slaughter.
  16. +2
    5 June 2013 12: 51
    “Recall that in Turkey the batteries of the same air defense systems, comparable in terms of their tactical and technical characteristics with the S-300, have already been deployed since the beginning of this year, and NATO fighters are based there,” Lukashevich emphasized. “We have repeatedly expressed our attitude to this - foreign weapons are pumping an explosive region.”

    Everything fits into methods and techniques American politics.
    First, the necessary armament for aggression is placed in Turkey.
    Then, the press vigorously discusses the possibility of Russia placing the S-300 and all kinds of scarecrows on this subject.
    Then under "teachings" in Jordan, NATO troops and weapons are deployed.
    Everything is done to conquer Syria and it turns out a ready bridgehead for aggression against Iran.
    Russia needs to understand that diplomacy is already on the side.
    To defend its interests, Russia must urgently within exercises with Syria to place weapons to counter their aggression.
    So and only so.
    1. alexkross83
      0
      5 June 2013 15: 50
      On the map, it was also necessary to show gas fields, which I think Russia will not allow the Turks to fully develop. Not everything is so simple, but the joint exercises of the USA with Jordan are a paid show.
  17. +1
    5 June 2013 13: 08
    While our politicians are engaged in verbiage (we did not deliver, we will not deliver, we will not deliver), the Americans once again set an example of concrete actions in defense of their interests (Turkey - "Petriots", now Jordan)
    "You are free from beasts by words -
    But the beast is better, if you talk for nothing. "Plautus.
    "Words are like leaves: a tree that produces a lot of them bears very little fruit." W. Shakespeare.
  18. 0
    5 June 2013 13: 16
    We must fight on foreign territory, for this we are strengthening Syria.
    Illusions disappeared a long time ago.
    1. 0
      5 June 2013 14: 36
      Quote: Dmitry 2246
      We need to fight on foreign territory, for this we are strengthening Syria

      And it’s advisable (obligatory) with the wrong hands! To risk your guys only as a last resort, if this directly threatens Our security!
  19. Vtel
    0
    5 June 2013 13: 29
    Missile systems and fighters can increase the country's defense potential, which may prove useful in the context of armed conflict in neighboring Syria.

    Certainly, our top officials helped them too: “In Jordan, they will establish high-tech production of RPG-32 hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers. Weapons will be assembled and tested at a new production complex, in the grand opening of which the head of Rostec Sergey Chemezov and King of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan Abdullah II participated. "
    The US authorities immediately ruled out all suspicions that they were preparing for military intervention in the Syrian conflict, but noted that this could happen in the future.

    What suspicions are there - this is a direct bursting of democratic military pressure - a cunning of the highest standard.
    It’s sad that with kosher, not whining, we managed to persuade VVP not to supply S-300s to Syria, so we will "keep parity", although in what it is completely incomprehensible - God only knows.
    1. Conepatus
      +2
      5 June 2013 13: 49
      Jordan funded the development of the RPG-32. This is considered a joint project.
  20. RA77
    0
    5 June 2013 13: 35
    It seems to me that the Israelis still dare to attack Syria, and these will support them.
    Apparently, the Americans do not want to customize their aircraft carriers, as they usually do. Since there is a Russian squadron, and Syria has modern anti-ship missiles. Therefore, it seems that they plan to hit like that. And for sure, he again did not give a damn about the UN Security Council.
    Assad’s troops are already squeezing out the bandits. Russia Today reports that El Quseir was finally recaptured. And soon Aleppo will probably be beaten off. So the West is beginning to specifically lose in this whole massacre, which he organized. Israel has its own interest. Therefore, they apparently still attack.
  21. dc120mm
    +2
    5 June 2013 13: 45
    Wah, that’s not good anymore, the jackals are still pushing the situation.
  22. +2
    5 June 2013 14: 01
    The US authorities immediately ruled out all suspicions that they were preparing for military intervention in the Syrian conflict,

    mu-da-ki. not only that they sentenced Syria, but also decided to do it yourself with their own hands
  23. 0
    5 June 2013 14: 16
    The United States sends missile systems and fighter jets to Jordan

    The enemy is cowardly advancing!
    wassat
  24. +1
    5 June 2013 14: 19
    King of the Hishima Kingdom of Jordan - Abdullah bin al-Hussein bin Talal studied in Great Britain and
    in the USA, that's where it all comes from. So our oligarchs will "teach" their children.
    1. Conepatus
      -1
      5 June 2013 15: 00
      This child funded the development of RPG-32.
      In the Islamic world, enjoy well-deserved respect.
      Many high-ranking officials received education in their own country and worked for other countries. So the place of study does not say anything.
  25. 0
    5 June 2013 15: 23
    In the press of the USSR they wrote about such people: "An impudent imperialist predator hiding behind a fig leaf." And that would be the correct definition.
    Why not try to increase the power of Assad and in parallel, through the Israeli media, methodically communicate to the people of Israel who will be neighbors with the defeat of Assad?
    1. Conepatus
      -1
      5 June 2013 15: 31
      I don't think Basalt workers consider him an "imperialist predator."
      Xs, why Putin is not building up Assad’s strength.
      Do you control the media of Israel? You are a GREAT person. Usually Jews control the media around the world, and here you control the media of Israel.
  26. 0
    5 June 2013 15: 37
    I’ll add a few strokes to the Middle Eastern mosaic in Syria:
    A contract for the supply of four to six divisions of the S-300PMU-2 air defense system was signed with Syria at the end of 2011.
    "Favorite" is an export version of the S-300PM2 version, it has somewhat worse characteristics, it will reach the foe also 200 kilometers away.
    With such parameters from near Damascus, the division destroys targets at medium altitudes over Tel Aviv or Jerusalem. It provides a "no-fly zone" over the entire north of Israel.
    There is work for the fleet too.
    Two divisions of the SCRC "Bastion" are capable of sinking ships from under Tartus on the beam of the Haifa naval base. Destroying even ships near Cyprus.
    The mobility of these products makes hunting for them an activity with dubious prospects.
    The possible appearance of the S-300PMU-2 and the prospect of continued supply of other modern air defense systems to Syria and
    the Israeli leadership was sad.
    1. Conepatus
      0
      5 June 2013 15: 44
      The Israeli leadership was CAREFUL.
      If the Israeli leadership begins to be sad, then it (the leadership) will kick out tries.
      With this, everything is fine with them, we would do that, maybe we would live better.
  27. shamil
    0
    5 June 2013 17: 06
    like the Jordanian Abdullah was a friend of Russia to Che American now
  28. 0
    5 June 2013 18: 07
    Politics is "With whom and against whom to be friends"
  29. +1
    6 June 2013 00: 43
    Gentlemen, All with a small victory for Syria.

    "The most important victory was won by the government troops of Syria. The city of El-Quseir, the storming of which lasted about a year, was eventually taken, about a hundred militants were killed, hundreds were taken prisoner. During the assault, it is said, documents were seized" exposing an international anti-Syrian conspiracy ". Meanwhile, the international conference on Syria has been postponed."

    http://www.vz.ru/redir/?source=vz_top_news&vzurl=top&id=635896
  30. shamil
    0
    6 June 2013 07: 00
    Of course, it’s postponed now.