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"Armata": the likely appearance of a promising Russian tank

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Everything about a promising core tank on the heavy unified combat platform T-14 “Armata” is a big secret. There are no photos of the secret object. But the interest in the new development of the Ural Design Bureau of Heavy Engineering is so high that we decided to show a tank that no one has yet seen.


Independent military expert Alexey Khlopotov thoroughly studied everything that was written about “Armata”. Based on his research, 3D designers Artem Trigubchak and Mikhail Rozanov tried to imagine the likely appearance of the newest Russian tank.
















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  1. Refund_SSSR
    Refund_SSSR 4 June 2013 07: 32 New
    18
    You can guess for as long as you want and come up with as many options as imagination allows. Meaning?
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 4 June 2013 07: 43 New
      +5
      I agree. You can rephrase: after analyzing the very dubious rumors of word of mouth, we heated up, something remotely similar to a tank.
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 4 June 2013 08: 11 New
        +7
        It is unlikely that the tank will be so ... It looks like a children's designer.
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 4 June 2013 09: 19 New
          +8
          Quote: xetai9977
          It is unlikely that the tank will be so ... It looks like a children's designer.

          KV2 tower in tuning? smile
          1. elmi
            elmi 4 June 2013 10: 23 New
            +3
            Quote: Corsair
            KV2 tower in tuning

            Yes, I also noticed a similarity)))
    2. feanor
      feanor 4 June 2013 07: 44 New
      +4
      We are waiting for the fall, I hope UVZ has time for everything on time.
      ps to the 70th anniversary of Victory in World War II, we are waiting for Armata on Red Square.
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 4 June 2013 09: 39 New
        0
        Quote: feanor
        We are waiting for the fall, I hope UVZ has time for everything on time.
        ps to the 70th anniversary of Victory in World War II, we are waiting for Armata on Red Square.

        Where is the mechanic? doesn’t want to communicate with idiots? The mechanic, they are asking me for some fools ... Respect already ... At least a hint - does the drawing in the SABJ look like?
        And in terms of timing - as you said - because of the Indian big contract, Armata was postponed, so the terms will be extended ... Here is also a question - why, the same people are engaged in R&D and contract maintenance at UVZ? In normal companies, R&D is generally all separate. Both the budget and the people (designers are not engaged in direct production, except perhaps consultations if necessary, because when putting an experimental product on stream, inevitable difficulties and questions arise) and even premises with equipment. At UVZ, a designer - is he also the head of a production site or workshop? So, what? Went a contract - dropped R&D and focused on production, so what? How poor is the staff at UVZ? Kill me, I can't grasp the connection between the service of the Indian contract (already tested and well-established good old T-90S) and the development of "Armata". Why does serving one delay another's deadlines? Mlyn, some questions and no answers. All such mysterious, free masons nervously smoke on the sidelines laughing
      2. Rustam
        Rustam 4 June 2013 10: 44 New
        +1
        Autumn? Are you talking about the exhibition in the Lower?

        According to the General Uralvagonzavod, Armat will not be shown there, this also applies to Boomerang from AMZ and Kurganets from Kurganmash
    3. w.ebdo.g
      w.ebdo.g 4 June 2013 08: 04 New
      +1
      in particular, on the chassis of the armature of TK, it was possible to climb through a railway embankment.
      in Soviet times, even jet engine variants were developed to solve this problem.
      1. tronin.maxim
        tronin.maxim 4 June 2013 08: 54 New
        +8
        What is interesting, another tank was designed before the armata, most likely the prototype T-95 is a black eagle, here is its performance characteristics: TACTICAL AND TECHNICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE BASIC COMBAT TANK “BLACK EAGLE”

        Crew, pers. Xnumx
        Combat weight, t about 50
        Dimensions, mm:
        body length 7000
        3600 width
        height 1900-2000
        Armament (caliber), mm:
        gun 135-140
        machine gun 1x7,62
        complex control. no weapons
        Ammunition, pcs .:
        shots 35-40
        rounds of 1250-2000
        Engine power, hp Xnumx
        Maximum speed, km / h 70
        Cruising range, km 400-450
        1. Rustam
          Rustam 4 June 2013 10: 46 New
          +5
          The notorious Black Eagle is a sample from the Omsk plant
        2. Cynic
          Cynic 4 June 2013 19: 45 New
          -4
          Quote: tronin.maxim
          TACTICAL AND TECHNICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE BASIC BATTLE TANK “BLACK EAGLE”

          Do not whistle respected and will not be booed!
      2. Metlik
        Metlik 4 June 2013 09: 02 New
        +2
        Almost certainly, Almaty will have 7 rollers, not 6.
      3. evgenii67
        evgenii67 4 June 2013 10: 18 New
        +1
        Hello everyone! What can I say - FANTASERS and so to speak "3D designers" Artem Trigubchak and Mikhail Rozanov are no exception, only in this case the "fantasy" of "3D designers" is meager (forgive me the author and the designers). Sorry again, but what is this, a T-90 chassis, a KV-2 turret with a little abgrade wassat, if you fantasize, why not 5 or 7 track rollers, but 6 again, why the engine is in the back, not in the front or even in the middle (we are fantasizing) ???? The tower is generally some sort of bathyscaphe with a window bully
        1. MilaPhone
          MilaPhone 4 June 2013 11: 10 New
          11
          I hope that the Armata will not look like this 4th generation Jordanian tank with the Falcon module:
    4. Scoun
      Scoun 4 June 2013 10: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      Meaning?

      But on the tower there are two whole window frames .... interestingly the tower is so small or the window frames are so big .. and
      imha. the author simply decided to promote his logo ...
    5. Genady1976
      Genady1976 4 June 2013 18: 17 New
      +1
      I won’t even write in Sy already written
  2. mark1
    mark1 4 June 2013 07: 33 New
    +4
    I don’t understand what is so secret in the appearance of the tank that even when the products are already at the exit, ours are encrypted like that. The mystery of a kibalchish boy is somehow direct. Perhaps we are afraid that the adversaries will soprut design.
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 4 June 2013 07: 45 New
      +1
      A lot of things, for example maneuverability can be subtracted by the width and length of the tracks, nor etc. etc.
      1. mark1
        mark1 4 June 2013 07: 58 New
        +7
        I hope this is a joke, because the ratio of the length of the tank to its width is far from being a secret thing and, in general, is standard. Secrecy represents the composition of the armor. engine, electronics, optics, weapons ... but what is the secret in appearance? If only "Armata" is not made of liquid metal, as in the terminator-3, before and then you can disguise yourself as a T-34, for example.
        1. sscha
          sscha 4 June 2013 08: 20 New
          +2
          According to the dimensions of the machine, the caliber of the barrel, the structural elements of the tower and the number of track rollers, the amount of ammunition in the machine, the approximate mass of the tank, and accordingly other TTX vehicles, are easily calculated. (This is offhand) hi
          1. mark1
            mark1 4 June 2013 08: 32 New
            0
            These are some pioneering secrets, weight, ammunition, thickness of iron on the manhole cover, etc. etc. It is not the worst secret of the Red Army, unless, of course, it differs significantly from foreign counterparts. I listed the most terrible military secrets above (as well as the presence of this tank, in principle - if there is nothing there is nothing to show - I hope this is not so)
        2. cth; fyn
          cth; fyn 4 June 2013 09: 52 New
          0
          According to the dimensions of the machine, barrel caliber, the structural elements of the tower and the number of road wheels easily calculates the amount of ammunition in the car, approximate mass of the tank,

          Plus the declared maximum speed and get the approximate engine power. Already quite a lot, huh? your quote:
          engine, electronics, optics, Armament

          In addition, we can subtract the size of the optics matrix from the external lens of the sight and we get:
          engine, electronics, opticsweapons ...
          .
          1. mark1
            mark1 4 June 2013 11: 00 New
            0
            So I say - pioneering secrets, you read books about the spy Gadyukin. It’s easier to get it all in the public domain, all the more so - we have lecension matrices, and engine prototypes have not been shown at one exhibition. So the appearance is not a great secret, an example of this is PAK FA
            1. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 4 June 2013 11: 13 New
              0
              Quote: mark1
              So the appearance is not a great secret, an example of this is PAK FA

              PAK FA will not fly in covers, and the glider turned out to be good, not ashamed to show.
    2. bairat
      bairat 4 June 2013 07: 47 New
      +4
      Even when these tanks begin to be sold around the world and some of them will be in the hands of a potential enemy, the cover of secrecy will not be removed. Passed by.
      1. elmi
        elmi 4 June 2013 10: 29 New
        +3
        Quote: bairat
        Even when these tanks begin to be sold around the world and some of them will be in the hands of a potential enemy, the cover of secrecy will not be removed. Passed by.

        I hope our leadership is smart enough not to sell the armature, at least for the first time until it is saturated in the troops. And then the latest models of equipment are more sold abroad than delivered to our troops.
    3. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 4 June 2013 11: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: mark1
      that even when the products are already out, ours are so encrypted.

      Is there a boy? The mechanic wrote in a comment that only the platform is ready.
      1. mark1
        mark1 4 June 2013 16: 13 New
        0
        Here I am in agreement with you. Almost everything about Confucius is about a black cat in a dark room. From here, and all the nonsense about spies who all our secrets know, they just need to find out the general configuration of the object (the T-64 was not encrypted at the time, although the secrecy was at a high level )
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 4 June 2013 07: 33 New
    +1
    It’s clear that this is the author’s fantasy, but if you remove the chassis and the gun, it will look like TB-26
    1. svp67
      svp67 4 June 2013 08: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: aszzz888
      It’s clear that this is the author’s fantasy, but if you remove the chassis and the gun, it will look like TB-26


      Yes, that’s what it reminds more
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 4 June 2013 08: 15 New
        0
        Looks like it! Someone stole a vidok from someone.
        1. svp67
          svp67 4 June 2013 08: 19 New
          0
          Quote: aszzz888
          Looks like it! Someone stole a vidok from someone.

          Well, if we assume that the Soviet - Ukrainian "Object 477" was developed in the period from the 80s to the end of the 90s, then draw a conclusion yourself ...
          1. Kars
            Kars 4 June 2013 13: 06 New
            +3
            American sump
      2. svp67
        svp67 4 June 2013 08: 56 New
        +7
        Quote: svp67
        Yes, that’s what it reminds more
        About 447 "Hammer"
        1. evil hamster
          evil hamster 4 June 2013 13: 02 New
          0
          This is not a hammer once, it is 152 mm drin from about. 195 in a certain monitors on the T72 chassis - just a mock for some kind of test
          1. svp67
            svp67 4 June 2013 22: 22 New
            0
            Quote: evil hamster
            This is not a hammer, it’s 152 mm drin from about. 195 in some monitors on the T72 chassis
            The chassis of the T64 ... and it was created in the 80
            1. evil hamster
              evil hamster 4 June 2013 22: 46 New
              0
              but it’s not specifically a hammer!
              1. bask
                bask 4 June 2013 22: 53 New
                +1
                Quote: evil hamster
                but it’s not specifically a hammer!

                Here it is specifically, Object 477, Hammer.
                It was a good idea with loading drums.
                1. evil hamster
                  evil hamster 5 June 2013 01: 59 New
                  0
                  Let's clarify the position, otherwise I got lost in 3 pines
                  This has something to do with Ob. 477

                  But this has something to do with about. 195

                  Do you agree with me or not?
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 6 June 2013 13: 06 New
                    0
                    Quote: evil hamster
                    Do you agree with me or not?

                    And in general it is more like the Kharkov version of a, la "Taran", something like a modified ob. 416
                2. svp67
                  svp67 6 June 2013 12: 38 New
                  0
                  Read this material carefully:
                  http://topwar.ru/8160-neobychnye-tanki-roscii-i-sssr-obekt-477-harkovskiy-molot.


                  html
                  In addition to the Hammer, the Udar and Boxer tanks were also being developed at the same time.
                  what you show is more consistent with "ob. 450" And in the photo there is an object of "malyshevtsev", so something, but a caterpillar track from T64 ...
  4. avant-garde
    avant-garde 4 June 2013 07: 34 New
    +3
    Until I personally see the presentation of this tank on this platform, I WILL NOT CHECK more than one picture, who is the author of this proposed species? Student 11B?
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 4 June 2013 09: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: avant-garde
      I WILL NOT TRUST not one picture

      And rightly so. The article itself clearly states that it
      3D-designers Artem Trigubchak and Mikhail Rozanov tried to present likely appearance
  5. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 4 June 2013 07: 35 New
    +1
    Really interesting. I hope it will be more impressive.
  6. Strashila
    Strashila 4 June 2013 07: 38 New
    +2
    Something looks like a complete n. Given the surface of the optics, it’s not long for him to live. From the front they type reduced the silhouette ... but from the sides there are right angles ... cool. The hole on the side is probably ... for throwing cartridges ... tin. Looks more like a tank destroyer than a tank, sit in an ambush and do not lean out.
  7. svp67
    svp67 4 June 2013 07: 41 New
    0
    Fortune telling on "coffee grounds" ... But this proposed view is unlikely to correspond to what will come out of the UVZ gates. This proposed project is more consistent with what we call T95.
    The arguments against:
    - "Armata" is not a tank, but a "base chassis" that will be used both in the production of a tank and infantry fighting vehicles, self-propelled guns, anti-aircraft and other special combat vehicles. And based on this, it will be more consistent with a front-engine combat vehicle ...
    And the model is actually the reincarnation of T74
  8. mark1
    mark1 4 June 2013 07: 42 New
    +2
    The windows in the front of the tower are touching. I hope the glass is thick and strong, because usually they try to "stick" something solid, such as M829, into the forehead of the tank
  9. Rus_87
    Rus_87 4 June 2013 07: 43 New
    30
    Personally, I like this option more soldier
    1. waisson
      waisson 4 June 2013 07: 55 New
      0
      good more than three times compared with what the author showed especially I was killed by the back of the tower, there is still a target to draw on it and there will be a mobile shooting gallery
      1. afire
        afire 4 June 2013 09: 30 New
        +3
        more Тreal estateИm compared to COMMA what the author showed COMMA personИbut the back of the tower killed me COMMA still on it draw a target and there will be a mobile shooting range

        Did you go to school at all? not ashamed?
      2. Dawn
        Dawn 4 June 2013 11: 35 New
        0
        So you drew, the Russian letter "I" would not write the Latin.
    2. 11 black
      11 black 4 June 2013 14: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Rus_87
      Personally, I like this option more


      this looks more like a tank — optimal armor tilt angles, low silhouette, minimum lens size so the sniper doesn’t take it down - I hope the armata will look like this, well, or like that laughing
      1. sergei_e
        sergei_e 5 June 2013 20: 49 New
        0
        definitely this option is better
  10. sanych
    sanych 4 June 2013 07: 43 New
    +5
    I put a plus on the article - after all, people tried to create the appearance of a new tank using fragmentary and incomplete articles. True, there is one BUT !!! God forbid, if the novelty will be just such huge "TV screens"! Even the current observation devices and sights snipers snap out, dooming the tank to blindness and helplessness. How many similar videos from Syria we have seen on the site !!! And here such "tasty things", no optics are needed. Straight "All-Seeing Eye of Saruman" !!!! 3D designers have not thought about it request Broneshtorki at least added smile But in general - the work is beautiful good
  11. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 4 June 2013 07: 46 New
    +2
    I agree that on the armature the engine is located in the bow, and not in the stern of the hull. So this is another game of guessing, or rather, let's guess the new look of the armata.
  12. bask
    bask 4 June 2013 07: 47 New
    +1
    At the end of the 80s. was developed, manufactured, passed a large volume of tests, the running layout of a seven-support chassis with a front-mounted MTO - ,, Object 299 ,,.
    A gas turbine engine with a power of 1400-1500 hp can be used as a power plant at the General Staff.
    The family of machines developed on the basis of the chassis, “Object 299,” includes:
    1 main battle tank
    2.BTR-T / BMP-T
    3.Management and Intelligence Machine
    4. Remote-controlled machine.
    ,, ARMATURE 80s ,,,
    1. bask
      bask 4 June 2013 12: 38 New
      0
      ,, Object 299 ,,
      Everything has been invented for a long time.
      Only introduction into production is necessary.
  13. Alan
    Alan 4 June 2013 07: 47 New
    +9
    Yes ....... the designer of "Armata" is now looking at this "shaking of the air" and probably laughing.
  14. Diviz
    Diviz 4 June 2013 07: 49 New
    +2
    if the truth is such a tank then this is some kind of idiocy .... maybe if only it will be an infantry fighting vehicle based on the armature chassis.
  15. bairat
    bairat 4 June 2013 07: 49 New
    -10
    Do we have a multinational state or not? Why is the tank Russian?
    1. sscha
      sscha 4 June 2013 08: 07 New
      13
      Because for Europeans there are no nationalities like the Bashkirs, Avars, Mordovians, and Erzya and Moksha for them are generally dense taiga! They have one thing - RUSSIAN! So it turns out that Russian is not a nationality, but a nation.
      All the good days! hi
    2. sashka
      sashka 4 June 2013 08: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: bairat
      Do we have a multinational state or not? Why is the tank Russian?

      Whatever We are, Russians speak all over the world. And there is nothing to be done about it .. Americans live in America., But all Russians are in Russia .. Why is it strange? Let it be not Russian but Russian. After all, the meaning does not change.
      1. avant-garde
        avant-garde 4 June 2013 08: 10 New
        11
        Quote: Sasha
        and Russia is all Russians ..

        Russians were at EBN, and for centuries they were Russians!
        1. sashka
          sashka 4 June 2013 08: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: avant-garde
          Russians were at EBN, and for centuries they were Russians!

          You are wrong. Did the Russians go through the sixth of the earth and did not meet anyone? Conquered and attached. Now we are all Russian ..
          1. avant-garde
            avant-garde 4 June 2013 08: 39 New
            +4
            Quote: Sasha
            We are all Russian ..

            You are right Russians. I just corrected you a little bit not the Russians, but the Russians drinkssomething better. IMHO
            1. queen
              queen 4 June 2013 11: 10 New
              +1
              Quote: avant-garde
              You are right Russian

              So I want to put in the column of the passport not a citizen, but Russian +
        2. afire
          afire 4 June 2013 09: 35 New
          +3
          RUSSIAN! I hate those who say differently, sometimes I want to rape such a turnip.
    3. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 4 June 2013 08: 11 New
      +6
      Quote: bairat
      Do we have a multinational state or not? Why is the tank Russian?

      Do you have a complex? Why is Bagration Russian? Rokossovsky? Baghramyan, Hannibal and many others.
      1. bairat
        bairat 4 June 2013 19: 51 New
        -1
        Do not you have? Try something Russian back, immediately howl rises. By the way, Hannibal how did you get into this company?
    4. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 4 June 2013 09: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: bairat
      Why is the tank Russian?

      Probably for a simple reason. The old name of the state is Russia!
      Russia (Old Russian .: Rous, or Rousskѧ zemlѧ) is the historical name of the lands of the Eastern Slavs, originating from the annalistic tribe of Russia, which founded the Old Russian state. In some sources related to the XI-XII centuries, the use of the concepts of Russia or the Russian land is limited only to the Kiev principality as the collective possession of the princes Rurikovich and the seat of the princely throne. Since the XII century, the name gradually passes to all the specific principalities. In historiography, the term Rus extends to the entire territory of the Old Russian state since its foundation in 862. As a result of the political division of Russia, later clarifying terms arose, such as Little Russia, Great Russia, as well as late medieval divisions according to the color scheme. In the titles of monarchs and representatives of the ecclesiastical authorities, claiming to be all-Russian legitimacy, the prefix "All Russia" was traditionally used. At the turn of the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries, in the writings of Orthodox scribes, Russia begins to appear in Hellenized form.
  16. sashka
    sashka 4 June 2013 07: 52 New
    +1
    that we decided to show a tank that no one had yet seen.

    Independent military expert Alexey Khlopotov thoroughly studied everything that was written about “Armata”. Based on his research, 3D designers Artem Trigubchak and Mikhail Rozanov tried to imagine the likely appearance of the newest Russian tank.

    Cool. What does this mean?. It is foolish to even comment on someone's inventions .. How a military expert can be "independent." In any case, he must be somewhere. And to give away the figment of your imagination as a reality.
  17. awg75
    awg75 4 June 2013 07: 55 New
    +2
    the shown option I think with reality has nothing to do
  18. Warrawar
    Warrawar 4 June 2013 08: 15 New
    +1
    The tower cannot be such an outspoken "bucket". But what about protection against hits from above? And the trunk protection? Anyone will have a powerful slab on top. And the chassis was sketched 1 in 1 with the T90-MS, and according to legend, there should be 7 rollers in general.
    http://www.vestnik-rm.ru/userfiles/armata_bam(1).jpg
    Here is a more likely view.
  19. Gardamir
    Gardamir 4 June 2013 08: 17 New
    -1
    Firstly, the tank is similar to the tanks of the 30s. Secondly, the name, have we completely become yet another American state? There is nothing Russian in the title. Well, in the third http://topwar.ru/5230-armata-tank-buduschego.html
    1. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat 4 June 2013 08: 27 New
      +6
      Why are you not satisfied with the Russian name "armata"?


      Armata
      the ancient name of the artillery gun that appeared in Russia in the 2 half of the 14 century. A.'s trunk was made of iron, which was folded into a tube and then a seam was welded; the barrel of a large caliber gun was made of several welded strips of iron.


      Great Soviet Encyclopedia. - M .: Soviet Encyclopedia. 1969 — 1978.
  20. rugor
    rugor 4 June 2013 08: 29 New
    +1
    No, not like that. The tank presented by the author is not beautiful, and our equipment is always pleasantly pleasing to the eye.
    1. mark1
      mark1 4 June 2013 08: 49 New
      +1
      Offer e-green line! ... or red !?
  21. andrey903
    andrey903 4 June 2013 08: 37 New
    +2
    As if completely without protection and ammunition
  22. Alikovo
    Alikovo 4 June 2013 08: 44 New
    +1
    I doubt the benefit of this form.
  23. sys-1985
    sys-1985 4 June 2013 08: 46 New
    +3
    So he is unlikely. People are right, he is not handsome.
    1. afire
      afire 4 June 2013 09: 39 New
      +3
      yes he is terrible!
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 4 June 2013 09: 58 New
        +3
        Military equipment must inspire fear! Ideally, the enemy, in real life - who will succeed ...wassat
  24. engineer74
    engineer74 4 June 2013 08: 53 New
    +3
    I suggest collecting all the pictures of the "virtual" Armata in one heap and placing bets. The winner will be determined when the "live" car is rolled out! bully
  25. vitas
    vitas 4 June 2013 09: 01 New
    +3
    This is the most dissimilar option. They promised to make the tower uninhabitable and most likely it will be very low and stretched back, because ammunition with an automatic loader will also be in the tower. The engine can be in front, and it will probably be longer in length and the rollers will not be 6, but 7. In short, you can guess as much as you like, you need to wait for the presentation from UVZ soldier

    I think the armata will look like this wunderwafel

  26. Slevinst
    Slevinst 4 June 2013 09: 09 New
    +1
    the armata is clearly not going to be like this, it’s some kind of freak that turned out especially the tower, it can’t be with a normal tank
  27. avant-garde
    avant-garde 4 June 2013 09: 15 New
    15
    Please do not judge strictly, this is a prototype laughing here is my version of Armata, I think it will be like that !! (this definitely hasn’t happened yet)
    Epti how much you can guess on the coffee grounds, the time will come we will all find out what it will be, everyone who is not too lazy to fantasize, well, so I decided too! (I drew it myself)
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 4 June 2013 09: 28 New
      +7
      Quote: avant-garde
      (He painted)

      Picasso smile + + +
      1. avant-garde
        avant-garde 4 June 2013 09: 30 New
        +5
        Quote: Corsair
        PICASSO +++

        Oh well, not really, of course, but in my opinion there are inclinations repeat laughing !
    2. afire
      afire 4 June 2013 23: 10 New
      0
      green handsome)))
    3. 11 black
      11 black 5 June 2013 09: 33 New
      0
      Quote: avant-garde
      Please do not judge strictly, this is the prototype of laughing. Here is my version of Armata, I think it will be like that !! (this definitely hasn’t happened yet)
      Epti how much you can guess on the coffee grounds, the time will come we will all find out what it will be, everyone who is not too lazy to fantasize, well, so I decided too! (I drew it myself)


      The Chinese, the Chinese, this picture !!!!!!! How to copy together laughing
  28. leon-iv
    leon-iv 4 June 2013 09: 25 New
    +6
    Why are you so led to trolling then? This sketch was for Tarasenko in the world of andrei-bt, he immediately began to make a diagnosis from the photograph
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 4 June 2013 09: 45 New
      +1
      Yes ... This is already a complete paragraph. Clinic.
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 4 June 2013 09: 56 New
        +1
        Well, not quite a clinic, if you look more accurately, draw up what should be.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 4 June 2013 10: 09 New
          +1
          Clinic - criticism of the tank for a 3D model from people who are in no way connected with the developers.

          There, a participant under the nickname "Vanguard" posted his drawing above. We urgently need to send Tarasenko away. His opinion is very important to us
          1. avant-garde
            avant-garde 4 June 2013 10: 16 New
            +1
            Quote: Spade
            There is a participant under the nickname "Vanguard"

            I laid it out for the sake of fun, since I already got divorced by the dreamers of Mount Hrenov, there aren’t enough people to enter the fornication into the fornication, but for now my tank also has the right to life!
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 4 June 2013 10: 30 New
              +3
              Quote: avant-garde
              in the meantime, my tank also has the right to life


              Bravo. especially camouflage so distorts the form that the true aesthetic shape and appearance are not visible to many.
              1. avant-garde
                avant-garde 4 June 2013 10: 37 New
                +2
                If you don’t have a sense of humor, I have nothing to do with it and I’m not trying to pass off my tank as a real one, unlike what is presented in the article yes
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 4 June 2013 10: 42 New
                  +2
                  Quote: avant-garde
                  If you don’t have a sense of humor, I have nothing to do with it and I’m not trying to pass off my tank as a real one, unlike what is presented in the article yes


                  the avant-garde here just did not want to offend you. I have already written so much about the appearance and shape of Armata. We have already argued so much with Leon and with Lopatov and other guys that I’m just touching, now watching these battles. Well, about the sense of humor, a moot point. hi
                  1. avant-garde
                    avant-garde 4 June 2013 10: 45 New
                    +1
                    Come on, come on drinks hi. Well, all the same, my tank is cooler laughing laughing laughing.
                    1. vorobey
                      vorobey 4 June 2013 11: 02 New
                      +3
                      Quote: avant-garde
                      Well, all the same, my tank is cooler


                      So I'm talking about too.
                  2. Aleks tv
                    Aleks tv 4 June 2013 14: 54 New
                    +2
                    Quote: vorobey
                    I’m just touching from the side now watching these battles.

                    good

                    And if Armata will not have the opportunity to go into outer space from under water, the people can finally, disappointment, be disappointed in it. lol

                    Waiting for.
                    1. vorobey
                      vorobey 4 June 2013 15: 32 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Aleks tv
                      And if Armata will not have the opportunity to go into outer space from under water, the people can finally, disappointment, be disappointed in it.


                      good Alex, you’re my fuel oil brother, I’ve finished it off ... on the fig, to her herself in space, she will also have 8 mines in order to get out of the water through the adversary.

                      And I’ve also heard people say about an articulated module with two engines so that it can be separated and partly quietly seep into the rear of the enemy.
                    2. saturn.mmm
                      saturn.mmm 4 June 2013 15: 49 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Aleks tv
                      Waiting for.

                      Yes, we are waiting!
        2. Strezhevchanin
          Strezhevchanin 4 June 2013 10: 56 New
          0
          Quote: leon-iv
          Well, not quite a clinic, if you look more accurately, draw up what should be.

          Finish with a file? lol necessary to finish? Zhotte Leva laughing be patient.
          1. leon-iv
            leon-iv 4 June 2013 11: 07 New
            0
            so I did not fall for it)))
            But if you really add another ice rink then the KAZ radar and so on
    2. vorobey
      vorobey 4 June 2013 09: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: leon-iv
      Why are you so led to trolling then? This sketch was for Tarasenko in the world of andrei-bt, he immediately began to make a diagnosis from the photograph


      Leon hi
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 4 June 2013 09: 55 New
        +1
        hao drinks
        I recommend people to see the head mosquito bugurt near Tarasenko in LJ
        1. Kars
          Kars 4 June 2013 13: 54 New
          +2
          Well, for now, Tarasenko, compared to Gurchikrm and his pictures, shows himself well. Although it’s good to say that the picture for Tarasenko personally is cool, how much honor.

          And here is the news that Armata was postponed indefinitely, as the Mechanic says no.
  29. Grishka100watt
    Grishka100watt 4 June 2013 09: 28 New
    +1
    C'mon, beautifully the guys drew what they attacked smile
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  31. azilan
    azilan 4 June 2013 09: 45 New
    0
    Quote: avant-garde
    Please do not judge strictly, this is a prototype laughing here is my version of Armata, I think it will be like that !! (this definitely hasn’t happened yet)
    Epti how much you can guess on the coffee grounds, the time will come we will all find out what it will be, everyone who is not too lazy to fantasize, well, so I decided too! (I drew it myself)

    You urgently need to go to the designer !!! yes
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde 4 June 2013 09: 53 New
      +4
      Quote: azilan
      You urgently need to go to the designer !!!

      I’m not an enemy of my country, let competent people do this, and not all kinds of 3D artists and people like me lol. Let's drink for our design bureaus so that they flourish and there are no artists like me drinks
  32. abu
    abu 4 June 2013 09: 57 New
    0
    On the T-90 with a new tower it seems, I don’t think that the new Russian tank will look so bad, our tanks have always been so beautiful.
  33. antikilller55
    antikilller55 4 June 2013 10: 39 New
    0
    guessing at the thick of coffee is not our method, I will discuss official photos then and discuss, and I don’t think you should take drawings at face value.
  34. Vtel
    Vtel 4 June 2013 11: 16 New
    +2
    The deadlines for the Armata heavy tank platform were postponed for six months due to problems with sighting systems. It was previously assumed that the machine will be demonstrated at the international arms exhibition in Nizhny Tagil in September 2013. Russian suppliers of optics for their Shvabe holding company (with such a non-schukov name is really difficult) are not coping with the task, and now it is planned to connect the Belarusian company Peleng to the project. It already made a fire control system for the T-90S tank, and the Peleng has a development for the Armata. The representative of Pelenga confirmed to Izvestia correspondents that the company is ready to cooperate with Uralvagonzavod on Armata, but so far no documents have been signed. A representative of the Ural Transport Engineering Design Bureau, which is developing a universal tank platform, said that due to problems with optics, the tank on the Armata platform will be shown to representatives of the Ministry of Defense and the military-industrial complex in the closed part of the exhibition and only in a stationary position. The general public will not see him yet. It is planned that the tank on the Armata platform will have a fully digital fire control system that will allow tankers to shoot from a cannon remotely while in an isolated armored capsule. Deliveries of tanks on the Armata platform to the troops should begin in 2015.
    Well, pull the cat by the tail, and the enemy is already close at the door!
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 4 June 2013 20: 01 New
      0
      Another option for THC
  35. washi
    washi 4 June 2013 11: 17 New
    +1
    Not a model, but nonsense, a distant person.
    Dimensions and approximate mass are known. the platform must withstand transportation. Caliber guns - there are international treaties, according to which there are restrictions on trunks and calibers. Of course, we can cheat them. The appearance and location of all equipment and weapons should ensure stealth. The operability of radio electronics should be ensured when exposed to electromagnetic radiation, or duplicated in manual mode (otherwise, in the case of nuclear weapons, the best tank IS-3).
  36. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 4 June 2013 11: 49 New
    +2
    And what, perhaps, within the framework of the site we will stir up our drawing competition on the theme "Armata. My vision". And then compare with the original when it is officially presented. laughing And the winner will be plunged to disgrace laughing
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde 4 June 2013 11: 52 New
      0
      May I already almost mastered Paint today fellow
      1. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 4 June 2013 17: 51 New
        0
        No, the antler is not enough. No. It is necessary to master CorelDraw wink
    2. leon-iv
      leon-iv 4 June 2013 12: 12 New
      0
      that no question I have one already on the machining one that is green
  37. TiGRoO
    TiGRoO 4 June 2013 12: 26 New
    +3
    This model of "Armata" has been on the network for a long time, the only thing that is not clear from the turret Tank or SPG ...
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    2. Kars
      Kars 4 June 2013 13: 11 New
      +5
      Zhosti plagiarism Bandarchuk from the inhabited world))
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 4 June 2013 13: 22 New
        +2
        Quote: Kars
        Zhosti plagiarism Bandarchuk from the inhabited world))


        Hi, hi. Are these pictures from Perevalnoye? which year? Are there other angles?
        1. Kars
          Kars 4 June 2013 13: 25 New
          +1
          They say that from Perevalnoy. I don’t know myself. This is a requisite when they shot the Inhabited Island in the Crimea. There are other angles somewhere, I saved it.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 4 June 2013 15: 36 New
            +1
            It’s very similar since I know well.
  38. ed1968
    ed1968 4 June 2013 13: 19 New
    +1
    looked at him and the mood crawled down sharply. it was necessary to think of such a freak draw wassat I hope this is just a hypothetical look, but if not, it will become the most miserable tank in my country, compared with a black eagle 100% handsome
  39. evil hamster
    evil hamster 4 June 2013 13: 30 New
    0
    As a matter of fact, Khlopotov had such pictures about 3 years ago, supposedly one of the options. As you can see the presented model is the flesh from the flesh of this picture, note the tank tower is not shown from the right and on the model the right side is virgin smile although if you think about it a tank with a given weapon should have a duplicate sight, although it should be simple if it was installed on a T90MS then God himself ordered in a tank with an uninhabited tower. and provided that we see the main sight on the left cheekbone of the module, then from the point of view of vitality and banal logic, the understudy should be on the right, and there we have a void. And indeed a very muddy model; where are the ZIP boxes ?, why is the commander’s panorama strictly along the trunk line (how will the gun be loaded with such a layout), why is the sight so healthy and no measures have been taken to protect it (although the sights were carefully and skincarely made on the same T90MS) Where is the KAZ radar? why not cover the DZ module? In general, there are a lot of questions and, most importantly, it is unclear why publish such a mop-up model?
  40. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 4 June 2013 13: 35 New
    0
    In general, they drew some crap. Nothing like a tank.
  41. vadson
    vadson 4 June 2013 17: 39 New
    0
    The guy from the armored forces went down. He goes into the tattoo parlor and tells the kolshchik: “Punish me a tank all over my back.” After five minutes of work, the kolshchik says: - That's all. Dembel to him: - Che so quickly. And he answers: - And what is there to stab, four letters of everything!
    surrenders kolshchik and 3d designer bro fellow
  42. OTAKE
    OTAKE 4 June 2013 17: 58 New
    +1
    If he really is like that, it will be a complete fail ..
  43. My doctor
    My doctor 4 June 2013 18: 22 New
    -1
    I see here everyone drools on the armature. I strongly advise you not to hope for it, otherwise it will suddenly become a dirty word in a couple of years. In general, cool down, the tank is not a panacea for all the problems of the aircraft, but for the budget it can become a problem for turnover.
    I’m waiting with patience, but no more than some kind of auto news, interesting design decisions.
  44. sergey158-29
    sergey158-29 4 June 2013 19: 33 New
    0
    Yes ... it needs to be a complete pervert to come up with such an exterior, thanks for not getting to the interior ... though, if, to confuse the enemy - then 5 s + :)
  45. Cynic
    Cynic 4 June 2013 19: 52 New
    0
    Honestly _ EVEN NOT FUNNY!
  46. Armata
    Armata 4 June 2013 20: 20 New
    +2
    In short, an hour ago I returned from Tagig, from UVZ. Damn so many fairy tales invented during my absence laughing This picture has already been seen by 6-7. There is nothing in common. And why the platform from 72?
    1. Kars
      Kars 4 June 2013 20: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: Mechanic
      In short, I returned an hour ago from Tagiga, from UVZ

      And how is the advancement there?
      Quote: Mechanic
      ling so many fairy tales invented during my absence

      And what else remains? The last hope for progress in tank building wants to know more.
      1. Armata
        Armata 4 June 2013 20: 41 New
        +2
        Quote: Kars
        And how is the advancement there?
        Hi dear. Nothing new than talk.
        Quote: Kars
        Quote: Mechanic
        In short, I returned an hour ago from Tagiga, from UVZ

        And how is the advancement there?
        Quote: Mechanic
        ling so many fairy tales invented during my absence

        And what else remains? The last hope for progress in tank building wants to know more.
        Friend hope is our earthly compass, and luck is a reward for courage drinks
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 4 June 2013 23: 33 New
          +2
          Quote: Mechanic
          Friend hope is our earthly compass, and luck is a reward for courage

          And is that all?
        2. uladzimir.surko
          uladzimir.surko 4 June 2013 23: 54 New
          +2
          the mechanic came and broke everything! hi negative drinks
  47. Yeraz
    Yeraz 9 June 2013 21: 51 New
    +2
    visionaries are our visionaries))