Where to sail?

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Gave a word not hysteria here anymore. Not a ride. I apologize, maybe somewhat off topic, but not the word that caught fire in one place.

The fact that everything is not smooth in our culture is a fact. As if a reflection of the brain, alas. Mr. President speaks about the loss of moral values, the need to work in this important issue ... not, says everything correctly. Sense of something? In general, it seems that Putin, as an individual citizen, needs one thing, and the others need another.

Saturday. Evening. Prime time. "Evening Urgant". On the air, Ivan said that during the entire existence of the program there had not been such a large number of applications for seats of spectators in the studio. He even asked the operators to show the whole crowd, consisting of different genders, races and ages. Well, people, of course, did not lose their head: they smiled, shouted, clapped and got up. On the face of everyone there was happiness and affection, that they see firsthand and are in the same place with their idol ...

It seems that there is nothing bad in it, and it is unlikely that anyone will see this as bad ... However, no one else was sitting at a party like Sasha Gray. That's what blew me away! Some kind of overseas whore caused such a big stir among the masses. Along the way, her tour of Russia was greeted by crowds of fans, with great pleasure they took autographs, interviews, invited to TV shows, to meet with Russian celebrities.

What everyone has forgotten, what is she famous for ?! Let me remind you: she took over9999 members to herself in everything so to speak, natural holes.

Russia is rich in people: outstanding scientists, talented writers, brave cosmonauts, heroic veterans (World War II and other military campaigns), brave firefighters and MCHsnikami. But, unfortunately, the majority chose the ideals for themselves all sorts of pi **** s and porn stars. Applause, what can I say ... herbarium of freaks.

Most of all, I was disappointed by the attitude of the crowd (it was the crowd, not the society) towards the people who made at least something for the country, society, nature. No one needs useful people, they are boring, old and boring. But porn stars are much better !!! They are both interesting, and funny, and always smiling, and they are set up only positively. It is better to praise them, follow their lives, be proud and tell others about their love for such.

Returning to the audience in "Evening Urgant", I am sure that these ardent admirers of Sasha Gray's work do not go to Saturday work, they do not lay flowers on the Eternal Flame on the ninth of May: there simply is not enough time. Yes, and not really something necessary. But look at the American give-away - there is always!

The most terrible thing is the conclusion in people’s minds: it’s better to be a bastard and do bad deeds - there is more money and fame than to be good-doing, at least as far as possible.

To prevent such thoughts from settling reliably and permanently in people's heads, all you need to do is review the priorities and answer the simple question - who is dearer to you: American whores or local heroes?

And one more question arises: are they people at the helm of information space? He, of course, Ivan, but still Urgant. And, clearly more Urgant (or Milinder, if biographically), than Ivan.

Is the hero of a twenty-second clip in the newswho rescued a child from the fire or a designer of aircraft (helicopters, tanks, why not care, we have thousands of them) less worthy of the attention of Channel One than this ... female?

And then we are surprised, but why is it looking at us like this in the world?

Who and for whose money continues to form the image of a Russian person?

And where do we sail with such an approach?

There are a lot of questions, but for some reason the answers are mated only with the prepositions "in", "to" and "to".

Sadly ...
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  1. +27
    4 June 2013 07: 17
    Thus, Ernst raises the rating of Channel One, as it seems to him ..
    1. bask
      +52
      4 June 2013 07: 33
      Quote: Denis
      Where to sail?

      Quote: Denis
      There are a lot of questions, but for some reason the answers are mated only with the prepositions "in", "to" and "to".

      I see one way out.
      DO NOT WATCH THE PRINCIPAL ZOMOBOZHCHIK ...
      I haven’t watched for 2 years.
      1. +30
        4 June 2013 08: 05
        Quote: bask
        DO NOT WATCH THE PRINCIPAL ZOMOBOZHCHIK ...

        If you cannot filter the information on your own, then, of course, it is better not to watch, but I think a reasonable person is able to decide what to watch, the Star channel, Sports or an interview with an American whore. Children have to filter for now.
        1. +5
          4 June 2013 11: 43
          I agree, but we need to do something with the children, because of their age they are critical of the "heroes" of such programs and cannot get any other information! Notice how hard they are now pushing us, including through the first channel, a "good" example of Jennifer Lopez for removing a healthy organ, can you imagine what kind of money is behind this ???? And this is on the first channel !!!! am
          1. 0
            4 June 2013 17: 37
            Quote: neri73-r
            jennifer lopez on healthy organ removal,

            And what kind of organ was removed?
          2. Hon
            +3
            4 June 2013 21: 24
            Angelina Jolie, and she removed her breasts for medical reasons to avoid cancer.
            1. 0
              4 June 2013 21: 58
              Quote: Hon
              Angelina Jolie

              And what does Jennifer Lopez have to do with it?))))
        2. Algor73
          +12
          4 June 2013 12: 39
          If every day, from year to year, they will talk to you on TV or on the Internet, in newspapers, show that an ideal, or a hero is such and such a n ** gift, or such and such a sh ** ha, then sooner or later , let you be and what a "filtering" person, but you will doubt your correctness. And what can we say about young people who know nothing about the Second World War, or about Gagarin (maximum - an astronaut), or about Stakhanov, etc. Moreover, they do not want to know! It is necessary to radically change the topic of the information space. But this is possible - only at the highest level
          1. +8
            4 June 2013 13: 26
            Quote: Algor73
            If every day, year after year,

            to tell a man that he is a pig, he will start grunting. As the hero of one crime novel said, "kunem is a wolf and a wolf will get used to it."
            MORAL-it is necessary to select the information space from whores and others .... rastov.
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              +2
              9 June 2013 12: 39
              Rather, the Jewish Zionists !!! Almost every channel has a Jewish Zionist owner!
          2. SASCHAmIXEEW
            +3
            9 June 2013 12: 36
            I am 66 years old in my youth, I danced the twist, I loved the Beatlov, and even now I listen with pleasure to their music of the mid and late 60s, it is the melodies, the lyrics are not for me! all evil, from Jewessionism, wherever there is war, where blood is shed, there the Jewessionist money bag takes off its weapon-grade bloody fat !!! VEZDE !!! their greedy envious paw !!!
        3. orkibotu
          +6
          4 June 2013 14: 52
          Well said about filtering information! Yes, only people with high intelligence will be able to do this! and every year there are less and less of them (((
      2. +10
        4 June 2013 08: 17
        Quote: bask
        DO NOT WATCH THE PRINCIPAL ZOMOBOZHCHIK ...

        The enemy must be known in person. wink
        Alas! You will not get away from communicating with people whose consciousness is formed through "zombie boxes".
        1. +3
          4 June 2013 12: 46
          Quote: There was a mammoth
          Alas! You will not get away from communicating with people whose consciousness is formed through "zombie boxes".


          I think you won't lose much if you exclude the contemplators of "House 2" and "Comedy Club" from your circle of communication, what can you talk about with them?
          he refuses the TV after reading Minaev's "Media Sapiens. A Story about the Third Term" I don't want to discuss the literary merit of the book, but I really liked the moment where it is proposed to refuse news for 2 weeks, I tried it on a trip abroad, my brains are cleared. Ultimately, this does not mean that I took the "box" into the trash, the final one I watch for 5 minutes. News in the morning, well, when documentaries are obtained on Zvezda and Prokopenko, sometimes, when he does not scare the beast-lizardmen, I have forgotten the "Fight Club", Emelianenko, I really respect.
          Why am I all. we ourselves have the right to decide what kind of people to surround ourselves with, now I recently got a familiar underground reserve from Mnevnikov, they say the truth, there are no former ones. I value such acquaintances, many friends in Kubinka from the former, all older than me, but with them on the same wavelength, it's a pity we rarely meet.

          1. +1
            4 June 2013 13: 32
            What have the men turned into on our TV? It’s a disgrace. Instead of taking women to perform female roles, they themselves put on pantyhose and dye themselves. At STS Basharov moved his head with his series with a plagiarized theme (also give them protection of intellectual property, but they themselves do not hesitate) about women.
            1. Hon
              +3
              4 June 2013 21: 38
              But Kostya met and gave an autograph)
          2. yak69
            +7
            4 June 2013 16: 01
            Quote: seller trucks
            You won't lose much if you exclude the contemplators of "House 2" and "Comedy Club" from your circle of communication, what can you talk about with them?

            It would be all right, but only those who can be excluded from the circle of friends become more and more every year. And yet, these people are our fellow citizens, living with us in the same country! And this is worse.
            When your fellow citizens gradually turn into cattle, you begin to understand that at the hour of H you can find yourself in the camp of the enemy without going through a single battle!
            It is necessary to understand that it is this cattle, quietly eating pivasik in their huts, and will become the stronghold that the west is counting on! They are the first to run to the container with sausage and beer, which will be offered to them by amers for the Russian land.
            Their heroes are in Hollywood, their fashion is Paris-London-New York, their food-chips and hamburgers, ideals-wealth at any cost!

            Do not blame Ernst, Urgant or Shvydkoy or the like. They are mongrels, sixes. Always remember WHO MAKES THEM THERE AND draw the right conclusions.
            The enemy must be known in person.
            And the enemy tribe is already in the Kremlin.
            1. +4
              4 June 2013 18: 45
              Quote: yak69
              They are mongrels, sixes. Always remember WHO MAKES THEM THERE AND draw the right conclusions.

              The conclusions are disappointing. And not even because of the fact that over these sixes and mongrels ultimately the Guarantor himself. And because the Guarantor himself, apparently, has curators.
            2. Hon
              +4
              4 June 2013 21: 47
              But our deputies))
      3. +5
        4 June 2013 10: 36
        Agree with Bask. I haven't watched TV for over a year. I include the maximum for the background. All infa from the screen of the box is filtered, in the style of "we are growing submissive consumer bydlo".
        Disgusting, comrades.
        Before this article, I did not know that Sasha Gray existed. It would be better not to know further.
        1. +10
          4 June 2013 10: 59
          "I turn on the maximum for the background."
          Read S. Kara-Murza "Manipulation of consciousness". There is nothing scarier than TV as a background.
        2. avensis
          +4
          4 June 2013 15: 23
          "Before this article I did not know that Sasha Gray existed. It would be better if I did not know further."
          so you found out about her, now you can't go anywhere)))
      4. Apostle
        +15
        4 June 2013 10: 39
        The article is excellent! Thanks to the author! I don't understand what the hell all this Western rabble is bringing to us, it's time to stop letting all sorts of prostitutes and homosexuals into our Motherland, only young minds are corrupted !!!
        1. +5
          4 June 2013 11: 19
          Apostle
          Quote: Apostle
          Thanks to the author!

          Join.
        2. +4
          4 June 2013 13: 46
          Apostle (1) SU "... it would be time to stop letting any prostitutes and homosexuals into our homeland ..."
          -------------------------------------------------
          I agree, it's time to stop letting them in! But, just to whom is this question? On whom does such a decision depend? I think the answer is simple - from the POWER! So after that draw your conclusions about her / power /! And I have not watched zombies for more than TEN years and I wish you the same ...
        3. Hon
          -11
          4 June 2013 22: 45
          Sasha has a lot of fans, and they want to see her, they don't like bringing her down to Iran, there Sasha Gray will never appear.
          1. +7
            5 June 2013 06: 37
            Quote: Hon
            Sasha has a lot of fans, and they want to see her, they don't like bringing her down to Iran, there Sasha Gray will never appear.

            You yourself are not going anywhere? I'm at home, and I don't need shit in my house!
            1. Hon
              -12
              5 June 2013 08: 00
              So no one comes to your house. But the country is common, and there are many Shurka fans in the country. So bear with it.

              By the way, this is a photo of the queue for a lecture that Sasha was giving, in Yekaterinburg it seems.
          2. yak69
            +5
            9 June 2013 00: 00
            Quote: Hon
            Sasha has many fans and they want to see her

            Here is another fan for all of us - a bright representative of Generation P. Only this is not your country, you did not create it! Your country is a liberal west, so go there yourself and kiss the heels of your idols. And Russia is not for you. We don't need those here!
            So the road is like a tablecloth. At the same time, take your rabble.
            1. Hon
              -2
              10 June 2013 16: 18
              Quote: yak69
              Only this is not your country, you did not create it!

              You might think you created it.
              Quote: yak69
              And Russia is not for you

              For you or what? Open your eyes and look around ...
              Quote: yak69
              We don't need those here!

              And nobody asks you, and they put the device on your opinion. Sasha was on the first, and if she wants more, nothing depends on you.
      5. +7
        4 June 2013 11: 38
        Quote: bask
        I see one way out.
        DO NOT WATCH THE PRINCIPAL ZOMOBOZHCHIK ...
        I haven’t watched for 2 years.

        And I already forgot when I tore off the antenna wire .... The wife, surprisingly, is happy, so much time was freed up. smile
        1. +3
          4 June 2013 16: 38
          My colleague came home. There is no soup house and a mess. History, in general, is old. House-2 is to blame. And the man from the training ground is tired, hungry and angry. He took an ax and frayed the TV into small pieces. His wife, says, his face turned white when she saw his eyes. They lived without TV for several weeks. They learned the news from the radio.
          And somehow everyone is alive and well. I mean, TV has turned from a way of entertainment into an effective means of manipulating consciousness. I myself have not watched for about five years. Several informative satellite channels and all. I learn the news using a radio and network resources.
      6. -17
        4 June 2013 12: 09
        It's especially funny when they say with pathos: I have not watched TV for 2 (3, 4, 5, 6 .....) years. Well, like, I'm so advanced, like, it's a challenge. Funny !! Do not lie!!
        1. avensis
          -4
          4 June 2013 15: 33
          I agree. The feed is such - I D Artagnan, the rest are pi ... sy. Don't look, it's your business. You don't know how to separate the truth from lies in a heap of garbage and other shit - just say so, no right away: I don't watch TV from a carrot's plot .... !!!!
          Do people force you to insert spacers into your eyes and hold them against the screen?
          Who is and what this girl is famous for, if I may say so - her own business!
          "That everyone has forgotten what she became famous for ?! Let me remind you: she took over9999 members to herself in all, so to speak, natural holes." - the author is in the know, apparently, too, enemies forced his creativity to evaluate, film after film ...
          For the article minus, I can not stand hypocrites.
          1. +11
            4 June 2013 16: 41
            gosha1970, avensis, eyes open and re-read the article. Who is this bl ... b is her private affair, you are right. The thing is that what the hell is this whore shown all over the country? They expose her as a great actress and as a person who has achieved something great? Do you want your children to take up the profession of Sasha Gray?
            Or already engaged?
      7. +4
        4 June 2013 15: 50
        Quote: bask
        composed of different genders, races and ages

        If anyone noticed, the faces of the audience are not Russian, but some Western. Well, we don't have that. As if they were playing along.
        1. Hon
          0
          4 June 2013 23: 13
          Quote: Alexander Petrovich
          If anyone noticed, the faces of the audience are not Russian, but some kind of Western

          What is it like?)))
      8. Seraph
        +6
        4 June 2013 18: 20
        I will share my experience. I have not watched for 21 years and have no regrets. When you see TV somewhere sideways, there must be some kind of garbage can or advertising, i.e. also a garbage can. Clowns, degenerates, mouth-assholes, and there are countless numbers. Is there any point in using television, unless you set yourself the task of becoming a sheep?
      9. Vladyka
        +1
        4 June 2013 18: 34
        I support! More than five years without a zombie! It's just some kind of miracle! Although I confess, at the beginning there was still a withdrawal ...
      10. rolik
        +1
        4 June 2013 22: 36
        Quote: bask
        DO NOT LOOK IN PRINCIPLE ZOMBYAYER

        And to reinforce this quote, read Pelevin's "Generation PI", there is a speech by CHE Guevara about the anal-oral WOW factor. Everything will immediately become clear, since Comrade Che is very clear about everything.
      11. +3
        5 June 2013 05: 57
        I have not watched the shaitan-box since 2002 am
        On the internet you choose what to watch good
        Of course, the Internet is also a bunch of g *** a, but it's easier to pick out laughing
    2. Vasya Ivanov
      +11
      4 June 2013 08: 00
      And then we are surprised, but why is it looking at us like this in the world?
      Who and for whose money continues to form the image of a Russian person?
      And where do we sail with such an approach?

      They look at us badly, we are not tolerant enough towards gay Lezbo minorities, so it’s not all bad. And we will sail there, in the ass, if we move in the fairway of Europe.
      1. Apostle
        +3
        4 June 2013 12: 27
        Moreover, there are sensible people among us who are against Western prostitutes and other evil spirits ... so Western tolerasts cast sidelong glances at us!
      2. rolik
        +3
        4 June 2013 23: 35
        Quote: Vasya Ivanov
        we will sail there, in the ass, if we move in the fairway of Europe.

        Oh Vasily how right you are! Europe has degenerated both morally and genetically. And I really do not want to join this movement to nowhere.
    3. Captain Vrungel
      +26
      4 June 2013 08: 10
      The second oldest profession is the first PR. And that you all run into Urgant. Who pays, they work for. Whoever orders the music is performed for that.
      And a small question arose. Who are the guests of the studio? Obviously not from the people. Reptiles "vertebrates" from the environment of "glamorous beau monde" and "high society", shorter than ordinary cattle, but in hats, butterflies and couture pantaloons.
      1. +23
        4 June 2013 08: 44
        Quote: Captain Vrungel
        The second oldest profession is the first PR.

        And we have Masha Kozhevnikova PR mandates.
        1. +4
          4 June 2013 14: 20
          Quote: baltika-18
          And we have Masha Kozhevnikova PR mandates.

          Come on!!! Remind you who Ilona Staller is? Masha nervously smokes on the sidelines with Sasha.
          1. +5
            4 June 2013 14: 44
            Quote: Strezhevchanin
            Remind you who Ilona Staller is?

            Well, I know that Cicolina was a deputy in Italy, but this does not mean that we should have something like that.
            Let us send Berkov to the deputies, so that the Duma would become quite fun.
            1. rolik
              +2
              4 June 2013 22: 38
              Quote: baltika-18
              Let us detach Berkov for deputies

              Masha Malinovskaya had enough)))))))
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        3. +5
          4 June 2013 14: 45
          that's why the laws are with us - solid pornography
          1. +3
            4 June 2013 17: 24
            Begemot
            Not all of our legislation is bad. the point is non-compliance with laws and the absence of inevitability of punishment for their violation.
        4. z-exit
          -9
          4 June 2013 17: 10
          Quote: baltika-18
          And we have Masha Kozhevnikova PR mandates.


          Thanks for the photo! Jerk off !!!
          (joke)
          1. +2
            4 June 2013 17: 21
            z-exit
            What are you, totally ohh ... and? Your level of humor is just at the level of this tsurva, which the Banshee mentioned in the article.
            1. z-exit
              0
              4 June 2013 17: 30
              Quote: smile
              z-exit What are you, totally okay .. and? The level of your humor is just at the level of this tsurva, which the Banshee mentioned in the article.


              Don’t strain, said this is a joke.
              Isn't it possible that someone sees a State Duma deputy in that photo?
              What else to do with such photos? The level of my intelligence, by the way, judging by the photo of Masha Kozhevnikova, is quite enough to work in the State Duma)))
              Such an article is like Malakhov's transfer)))
              So it was not I who made a booth here first that you clung to me))))
          2. +1
            4 June 2013 20: 59
            Quote: z-exit
            Thanks for the photo! Jerk off !!!
            (joke)

            I rated the joke. good
        5. +3
          5 June 2013 06: 42
          Quote: baltika-18
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          The second oldest profession is the first PR.

          And we have Masha Kozhevnikova PR mandates.

          Well, this is United Russia, God forgive me, at its best!
    4. +19
      4 June 2013 08: 15
      And why has Channel One still not been held accountable for the propaganda and dissemination of pornography? What is the Attorney General doing, also sitting there clapping his hands?
      1. +11
        4 June 2013 08: 54
        Quote: Kohl
        claps his hands?

        Hands, but not clapping.
        After all, Sasha Gray herself is shown laughing
      2. +4
        4 June 2013 10: 30
        and he got the aftograph - and it’s fading away)))))) there was nothing to let her into the country request
        1. +5
          4 June 2013 10: 34
          Whose is it? Do not let Eltono John let in and Nitsche and how is it worse?
          IMHO much better)))
      3. 0
        4 June 2013 11: 49
        If not he is his children.
      4. Micex
        +2
        4 June 2013 14: 45
        I'm still waiting for Onishchenko - maybe he will say what about this)
    5. -21
      4 June 2013 08: 23
      Look, Stallone starred in adult movies before his acting career, Tyson starred in this after a boxing career, rapper Seryoga starred in such a case in between performances. And how do you perceive them? Here! So Alexandra Gray is now a DJ and an actress. And if you see in her only the "strawberry" actress, then, comrades, this already suggests that it is closer to you. I mean - about the worldview. And here Urgant will not help.
      1. Vasya Ivanov
        +12
        4 June 2013 08: 33
        If she was just a DJ or an actress, I doubt we heard and saw her at Urgant's. POPULARITY she acquired you know through that.
        1. -16
          4 June 2013 08: 48
          I have never seen her. But I heard a hundred times. And believe me, today she is just a DJ and actress. And in this status, she came to Urgant. And the fact that at the same time someone causes a panic about the degradation of us in culture - what is the panic about? Already wrote, many of the famous sinned like. But we perceive them only in their current status. And what is worse this woman?
      2. +9
        4 June 2013 09: 03
        Let me say that Stallone and Tyson are famous not for their pipettes, unlike Sasha.
        I do not know what the so-called rapper serge is famous for.
        Quote: Karavan
        dj and actress

        PORN Actress.
        1. -10
          4 June 2013 09: 20
          Quote: Onotolle
          PORN Actress.


          former American porn actress, also known for her work in the field of cinema, fashion and music. A member of the aTelecine music band playing electro-industrial.
          1. +11
            4 June 2013 11: 14
            Quote: Karavan
            also known for her work

            But you must admit that her "creativity" in the field of the porn industry has left an indelible mark on the hands of descendants laughing , brought widespread fame in certain circles and made her a name.
            Now, if she, for example, removes a film from which James Cameron and George Lucas will cry bitterly envious tears embracing each other, or write music from which Wolfgang Amadeich Mozart will turn over in his grave, then of course we can say that we do not love Sasha for "this".
            In the meantime, what is.
          2. Apostle
            +4
            4 June 2013 12: 30
            I had never heard of her work, but I did hear about the "achievements" in the porn industry ...
          3. +7
            4 June 2013 12: 57
            Quote: Karavan
            former American pornographic actress

            Well - well ... Sounds interesting, like "former pi. Do.ra.s", or "in the past, gay" ... Don't you think?
            1. +4
              4 June 2013 18: 33
              Quote: revnagan
              as "former pi. do.ra.s", or "in the past-gay" ...

              Ask the very last convict, and he will answer: "Once it is down, the cock is forever."
            2. 0
              4 June 2013 18: 33
              Quote: revnagan
              as "former pi. do.ra.s", or "in the past-gay" ...

              Ask the very last convict, and he will answer: "Once it is down, the cock is forever."
      3. vladsolo56
        +34
        4 June 2013 09: 32
        The point is not who she is now, and what she was doing before, you do not seem to understand the meaning of the article. The bottom line is that she was made the hero of the program, the hero is always an example to follow. If you are satisfied with such heroes, then I am not. Her personal life, her own business. I don't give a damn what she did before than after that, but making her some kind of symbol to popularize is immoral. Moreover, maybe I don't understand something, but who is a DJ? bum twisting "music" in the club. Yap useless and mindless. If someone thinks that DJing is a respectable profession, then what can you talk about with such a person?
        1. +3
          4 June 2013 13: 00
          Quote: vladsolo56
          Her personal life, her private affair.

          That's right, until her personal life went beyond her bedroom. Well, since everything that she demonstrated was designed for a wide range of consumers, it is not "personal".
          1. Hon
            +1
            5 June 2013 00: 28
            Yes, her films are watched and condemned by the whole society)))
            1. +1
              5 June 2013 12: 18
              Quote: Hon
              Yes, her films are watched and condemned by the whole society)))

              What does "all of society" mean? When they say "all" it means what exactly
              It’s not possible to point out anyone. I definitely don’t watch. And I don’t blame (films). Well, I haven’t seen. My wife doesn’t watch. Parents don’t watch. That is. is no longer "all" society. Yes, I know that this ... "worked" as a prostitute. And when the "sperm collector" begins to teach the children "what is good, what is bad," I can only be glad that this is not yet with us in the state. And I blame the fact that a hardened whore (sorry, PORNO actress) gives interviews on the central channel in our country. Whatever words fly out of this mouth, they are on any account.
              1. Hon
                -2
                5 June 2013 12: 37
                Quote: revnagan
                And I blame the fact that a hardened whore (sorry, PORN actress) gives interviews on the central channel in our country. Whatever words fly out of this mouth, they are on any account.

                Moreover, Sasha even gave a public lecture in Yekaterinburg))) By the way, Sylvester Stalone and Sandra Balok also began their careers with films XXXX if they come to us and will be interviewed, will you also be outraged?
                1. +3
                  5 June 2013 17: 01
                  Quote: Hon
                  By the way, Sylvester Stalone and Sandra Balok also started their careers with films XXXX if they come to us and give an interview, will you be outraged too?

                  Are these people we can't live without interviews? The authorities are awesome? Stallone, Bullock ... For me - no one can call it. Local whores are few, you still need to listen to Western shit?
                  1. Hon
                    0
                    5 June 2013 17: 13
                    Quote: revnagan
                    Are these people we can't live without interviews? The authorities are awesome? Stallone, Bullock ... For me - no one can call it. Local whores are few, you still need to listen to Western shit?

                    So you will be intimidated by the management of the first channel and determine who to interview and who does not. Sasha was on an entertainment show, the format of this program just provides for such guests. And the indignation as if elected her deputy.
        2. +1
          4 June 2013 15: 18
          Quote: vladsolo56
          The bottom line is that she was made the hero of the program, the hero is always an example to follow.

          And who finances all this? Who is behind her, for Sobchak? Putin Sobchak smiles so sweetly, does he like the fact that Ksenia is corrupting young people?
          1. +2
            4 June 2013 21: 02
            Quote: Uncle
            Putin Sobchak smiles so sweetly

            He probably promised the deceased dad to look after his daughter and not give offense.
          2. Hon
            0
            5 June 2013 00: 35
            It finances advertising, the more a person watches the channel, the more expensive the advertising time. Therefore, there is a pursuit of ratings. Our deputies are removed naked and nothing, then they are also engaged in youth policy))
        3. Hon
          +1
          5 June 2013 00: 26
          each TV show has its own characters, and its own audience, we have HOUSE 2, vacations in Mexico and these programs are made for a specific audience, this audience is vast, and therefore there are many such programs.
          what is the repentance of the DJ profession, and who is useful to us? and who should benefit? a person works for income, for himself, and not for someone else. DJs are well paid, my friend gets 50 thousand per night, he gets to the machine for 50 a month?
    6. Gluxar_
      +5
      4 June 2013 08: 34
      Quote: Denis
      Thus, Ernst raises the rating of Channel One, as it seems to him ..

      Sasha Gray's arrival is of course a provocation. Moreover, "Urgant" is an entertainment program, but there were also several reports in local news broadcasts. All this is sad ...
      1. Apostle
        +1
        4 June 2013 12: 32
        Sadly, and even very much.
    7. 0
      4 June 2013 10: 02
      It improves demographic indicators, as it seems to him. The installation is given - to give birth! Here are the whores and show to raise ... rating.
    8. +4
      4 June 2013 15: 42
      The article is correct, but you still don't have to be so boring, don't get me wrong, but the guys watched porn, someone might have learned from it. Some kind of Sasha Gray, the devil knows where in the USA, and you are a young guy from Chelyabinsk, and suddenly this "Star" is in your country, and you saw her on the street with journalists, how not to come up not to take a picture, not to get an autograph, there is a psychological aspect , then show your friends a photo and an autograph, but they will be stunned, you are a star yourself.
      If some Western professor, the most in the world, would come, no one would be clapping.
      Conclusion: the point is not that we love the American prostitute more, there are no outstanding Russian scientists. The psychological aspect, associations, pleasant memories, not many of today's youth are interested in painting, someone does not know who Pushkin is, for that they know Sasha Gray. And this already comes from the family, moral and ethical education at home. And the upbringing of an entire generation from the very birth is the task of the state. What do you want if the same Medvedev, a politician, the President of a Great Power, a fan of mounts and other things .......... The generation is not to blame, he was brought up this way, and who brought up how quickly it happened. Dulles' plan, everyone will say he's to blame. What are we? managed by g @@ but ???
    9. fisherman
      +1
      4 June 2013 20: 12
      and Urgant himself (as well as the author of the article) believes that someone Putin is to blame :)
    10. Hon
      0
      4 June 2013 21: 18
      Yes, it is the rating, because Sasha makes the rating, and the rating is money. The reality is that they want to watch Sasha, not patriotic programs. There is a culture channel, and there is TNT. Who has the higher rating?
    11. 0
      5 June 2013 06: 30
      Quote: Denis
      Thus, Ernst raises the rating of Channel One, as it seems to him ..

      What rating !? This channel has not had it for a long time! Themselves compose and touch! All the rabble gathered at the First and Russia-1.
      1. +3
        5 June 2013 08: 49
        Quote: brelok
        What rating !?

        Rating is money, money is rating. Loot drives.
        Yesterday I partially watched The People Against. About young people who are fighting against pedophiles, the sale of drugs, rotten goods .... I advise you to take a look. Sometimes there is something there that makes you think. Then it was about our sailors in Mesina in 1908. True, it was not without a fly in the ointment (il shit).
    12. SASCHAmIXEEW
      +1
      9 June 2013 11: 41
      With the money of Jewish Zionists from the craz and other countries, Jews have been fighting the Slavs for more than one millennium, now they have decided to corrupt us through the media and TV (everything is in the hands of the Jews), we’ll see whether or not we’ll see! figures, through the courts and long terms of course !!! Long Live RUSSIA without the Zionists and their accomplices !!! In the Duma, they also dug in quite a few .... I'm not talking about the government, there through one enemy of the people!
    13. 0
      10 June 2013 10: 21
      Yes, and Urgant himself has already managed to identify himself with the "red commissar", now here is Sasha Gray ... negative
  2. Cartoon
    -27
    4 June 2013 07: 18
    The author, and you yourself would be less cursing, maybe there would not have been so many freaks.
    1. +2
      4 June 2013 14: 44
      And where am I so contrived? Indicate, do me a favor ...
      1. Hon
        0
        5 June 2013 08: 23
        "Returning to the audience in" Evening Urgant ", I am sure that these ardent admirers of Sasha Gray's work do not go to subbotniks, do not lay flowers on the Eternal Flame on May XNUMX: there is simply not enough time. And it is not really necessary."
        1. +1
          5 June 2013 09: 59
          Quote: Hon
          do not lay flowers on the Eternal Flame on May XNUMX: there is simply not enough time. And not really necessary. "

          The article is just about that. Masquerade uniform?
          1. Hon
            0
            5 June 2013 10: 06
            Quote: There was a mammoth
            The article is just about that. Masquerade uniform?

            And I copied the text of the article. Real cadets, fans of her "creativity")))
            1. +2
              5 June 2013 10: 16
              Quote: Hon
              Real cadets, fans of her "creativity")))

              Which B is more important ... than the heroes of the country. Defenders.
              1. Hon
                +1
                5 June 2013 10: 28
                Don't make her visit a tragedy. These guys know well about the heroes of the country, perhaps they themselves will become, maybe not, it is not known how fate will turn out. Well, they took a picture with Sasha, and why did they stop loving their homeland? She is cool and funny, and they are young and so far carefree. Why should Sasha be opposed to Gagarin? I would go (if I had such an opportunity) to a meeting with him and her, only my feelings would be different. I would have been proud of meeting Gagarin all my life, and Sasha is just a cool girl.
                1. 0
                  5 June 2013 10: 40
                  Quote: Hon
                  ... and Sasha is just a cool girl.

                  Try talking to your parents, your grandfathers on this topic. At the same time, learn about funerals and missing persons in your family. Surely there are.
                  Quote: Hon
                  And not really necessary. "
                  1. Hon
                    +3
                    5 June 2013 10: 57
                    Quote: There was a mammoth
                    Try talking to your parents, your grandfathers on this topic. At the same time, learn about funerals and missing persons in your family. Surely there are.

                    My grandfather's cousin, Hero of the Soviet Union, died in Stalingrad, destroyed 9 tanks. A brother died of his wounds in a Saratov hospital. A grandmother from Belarus, her whole family helped the partisans, my father (my great-grandfather) was a guide, participated in sabotage operations, notes were woven into her pigtails and she passed them on to the partisans. My family keeps a book of memory where the names of the deceased relatives are marked. But what does Sasha Gray have to do with it ?! She's just a former XXXX actress. Did she bring condoms to the memorial to those killed in WWII ?! I just came and hung out and left. We have a lot of our own, Berkova is constantly on TV, Tarzan by the way is an officer, a captain by rank.
                    1. +2
                      5 June 2013 18: 04
                      I am sincerely glad that you remember your relatives. And keep the Book of Memory. I also keep and remember. I want to believe that your comrades also honor the memory of their own. Then why: "Yes, and not really necessary"?
                      Quote: Hon
                      But what does Sasha Gray have to do with it ?! She's just a former XXXX actress.

                      "“ "I was famed for my work in the industry, and I am not ashamed of anything and do not regret anything. The most important thing is that, despite my unconventional pursuits, my family supported me all the time." These are the words of S.G. So that she is not the former. A little family. As M. Weller said: "She has failed. You see, there are no w ... x exes. Just like thieves and murderers." We, too, young people, used to be condemned when we listened to the Beatles or ABBA. I understand that you want to listen to what you like, and not what is imposed. There is no dispute about tastes. But about morality, yes. About the attitude to idols, who has the main working tool between their legs, yes. An article on morality. In general, "promoted"
                      1. Hon
                        +1
                        5 June 2013 19: 16
                        Why do you take everything so seriously? For me personally, Sasha is a girl from funny demons, I have not yet seen films with her participation. Why do you compare her with the Heroes and the Beatles? People go to the circus watching monkeys and clowns, this is from the same opera. If I had time, I would also go to the club where she plays, take a picture, get an autograph. Have you photographed with monkeys in the circus? Well, there was nothing immoral on her trip to Russia, she had fun and amused the people, that's all)))
  3. +14
    4 June 2013 07: 20
    Urgant with his taste to invite guests sometimes infuriates, to hell to invite this porno to the program. That in Russia there are not enough famous people and folk heroes. He with his eloquence about the red commissars about the Ukrainian village had already forgotten. So he must be reminded, one must answer for the bazaar!
    1. Hon
      0
      5 June 2013 00: 47
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Urgant, with his own taste, inviting guests sometimes infuriates, what the hell is inviting this porno to the program

      Right!!! On a fig for us when imported in bulk ?! Give Elena Berkova !!!
    2. alexandr00070
      +2
      8 June 2013 16: 10
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Urgant with his taste to invite guests sometimes infuriates, to hell to invite this porno to the program. That in Russia there are not enough famous people and folk heroes. He with his eloquence about the red commissars about the Ukrainian village had already forgotten. So he must be reminded, one must answer for the bazaar!

      Well, finally, out of all those who are discussing, at least one of them "rooted to the root", damn it is not clear that Urgant and his other God's chosen friends, have long been conducting subversive work on our TV, instilling an ideology alien to the people. Making fun of heroes and patriots (the same commissars), exalting pi ==== owls and asking ==== current. The first channel has long become Zionist and their first victim is V.Listyev, and the Russians (ORT viewers) will be victims of another experiment. It's not for nothing that TV is switching to digital, it's easier to embed zombie programs and influence the people. So Urgant is the successor of Posner's work, by corrupting viewers
  4. +23
    4 June 2013 07: 21
    The worst thing is that this bitch becomes a moral and ethical guideline for our growing children. This situation is also pissed off.
  5. ksandr45
    +11
    4 June 2013 07: 22
    I don’t read or watch other news channels besides this, and this is the first time I hear about such a thing. What can I say, the case is really worthy of condemnation. Condemning the West for their homosexuality, one should not forget to keep ourselves within the bounds of decency, otherwise we will become like them.
  6. Andrew 121
    +6
    4 June 2013 07: 28
    This creature had in all the cracks how can you show it to the country !!!
  7. +1
    4 June 2013 07: 30
    Who and for whose money continues to form the image of a Russian person?


    And the author himself advertised the American gimmick and even posted a photo !!! I had never heard of such a thing before.
    1. +1
      4 June 2013 15: 32
      Yeah, but she oste me for this ... undone and so on ...)))
  8. +9
    4 June 2013 07: 31
    Where to sail?
    _____
    Haven't they sailed yet ???? Whoever can name at least one program to date made entirely in Russia ??? I think there are probably no such programs, everything is licked off from Western TV !!! Because of that, then we have the condom on the Eternal Flame and dancing in churches and gay joy they want to spend as in gayrope and all sorts of goths and emo and a lot of all sorts of trash and it's not a secret for anyone that all this is from there with syshya and gayropes! !! Be careful turning on the TV with your baby !!!
    1. 0
      4 June 2013 22: 27
      good night kids, it's still quite a Soviet program and is oriented towards children
      and according to the article - a thought appeared in the head already from her, he went crazy - in terms of the article, there is something to learn from the Muslims.
      1. rereture
        0
        4 June 2013 23: 24
        Very childishly oriented, 15 minutes for the entire program, 10 minutes of trawling and 5 minutes of a cartoon. I hated as a child precisely because they showed a third of the cartoon.
    2. Hon
      0
      5 June 2013 01: 11
      DOM 2 is a domestic product, its format even later bought Western channels from us)))
  9. +21
    4 June 2013 07: 36
    I do not watch this Urgant evening, not morning, with his pseudo-knowledge, yeah. Vulgarity hi
  10. +2
    4 June 2013 07: 40
    From the beginning I liked the article, but after finishing it to the end I put a minus, the author began to look for Jewish roots in Urgant. Author! Do you think that Ivan invited this "goat" to the studio, is he a showman or on our TV presenter, or Ivan invited her to Russia, met with such honors, if I am not mistaken, as a cosmonaut?
    1. +10
      4 June 2013 15: 40
      Igor, I’ll beg you! Let's not smear porridge on the table and not cry for stolen eggplant!
      Seeking is when something is unknown or undiscovered. Open Ivan’s biography, everyone was found there not yesterday!
      And if mom is Jewish, father is Jewish, grandmother is Jewish, grandfather is Jewish, who do you think he is? Zulu?? Or Finn ???

      Moreover, did I scream that Vanya is a poet from a neighboring kibbutz? I screamed that I would teach his matzo to do it right? Not. I did not shout this. I quietly pointed out that Vanya was not just a Jew, but a Jew who climbed through. And you need to look not at Vanya and the goats that he grazes, but at those who read Vanya Torah.

      And then, is there at least one Jew besides Vanya, to whom I spoke badly?

      Regarding the second part of your comment, it is completely incomprehensible to me there, what kind of thing.
  11. +16
    4 June 2013 07: 45
    In my opinion, after such a "tour" the Minister of Culture should be removed for not condemning such events, newspapers and magazines after such materials should be fined or closed if they do not understand. This is a direct harm to the spiritual health of the nation.
    1. +10
      4 June 2013 09: 23
      Strongly agree +++. And this Konstantin Yoprst completely lost the coast due to ratings and zeroes in advertising bills
      1. +2
        4 June 2013 11: 54
        You are mistaken, he never lost his shore))))))))
      2. 0
        4 June 2013 22: 58
        - Yes, in general, this channel needs to be closed together with the borovodirector to hell. This channel has long lost its viewability. They even advertise on the news all sorts of low-rated TV shows and films, and the news itself is vomit ... I sometimes ask people when they ask me to tune this lousy channel (yes, I sometimes tune my friends TV), what interests them in this channel, I get in response, nothing intelligible or an answer like oh-oh-oh ... it's ORT !!! So what? Never mind. One name is "first"!
      3. alexandr00070
        +1
        8 June 2013 16: 16
        Quote: Black Colonel
        Strongly agree +++. And this Konstantin Yoprst completely lost the coast due to ratings and zeroes in advertising bills

        Noughts are paid by those who are needed, to a greater extent just for such programs .......... ideologically oriented
    2. Grigorich 1962
      0
      4 June 2013 16: 56
      its time to shoot
  12. +14
    4 June 2013 07: 47
    Until now, I didn’t know who she was, but I didn’t even know about her existence. And in Russian duck in general, it is simply called b..discha!
  13. +6
    4 June 2013 07: 50
    The article, of course, is not for VO.
    But, whom and how we raised, now we are reaping the benefits.
    After all, there were someone's children on that "gangway" of Urgant.
    Whose?
    My?
    Yours?
    I doubt it!
  14. +11
    4 June 2013 08: 10
    “I’m sure these ardent admirers of Sasha Gray’s creativity don’t go to subbotniks, don’t lay flowers on the Eternal Flame on May XNUMX: there’s just not enough time. And it’s not really necessary. But there’s always something to look at the American bummer!”
    "And one more question arises: are those people at the helm of the information space?"
    "Who continues to shape the image of the Russian people and for whose money?"

    Look at the "elite". And her moral values. They are already discussing the possibility of even fagots raising children.
    I didn't know who S. Gray was. Somehow I can do without porn. I typed in the search. Found. I was unable to insert a picture where S.G. holds a Russian passport in his hands. Those who wish can easily find a photo. Maybe the patrons are higher, who is free to give Russian citizenship? "Cattle" is easier to manage.
    Depardieu, Gray - who is next to the Russian passport?

    PS Who will tell you why the pictures do not always cling. What extension do you need?
    1. +5
      4 June 2013 09: 08
      Cho something rzhunimagu:
      Either Depardieu was lowered to the level of a sachet, or a sachet was given a compliment.
      Interestingly, did Ramzan invite Sasha to visit?
    2. +5
      4 June 2013 09: 17
      Quote Was Mammoth: Depardieu, Gray - who is next to the Russian passport?

      Logically, the next will be a wedding tour of French newlyweds-homosexuals with TV coverage!
      1. +3
        4 June 2013 14: 34
        Quote: treskoed
        tour of french newly married pederasts

        Well, this immediately needs to buy one-way tickets and from Urgant this will be the last program ..... the next one will be a "show of disabled people".
    3. +1
      4 June 2013 21: 23
      He put a minus only because he combined in one sentence Depardieu and this profura in life. Dear, well, you need to think, at least a little. Or is it important for you that the surname is not Russian? Ashamed of you ...
  15. Sewer
    +5
    4 June 2013 08: 11
    I do not watch this shit show!
  16. Flying Dutchman
    +2
    4 June 2013 08: 12
    It is a pity, of course, but the moral bar of today's youth fell below the plinth.
    1. ole
      ole
      +4
      4 June 2013 09: 20
      Where does the bar come from if our children are turned into illiterate slaves, my son finishes grade 9 without triples and 10 only one, and 9 three, the classroom gathered parents and said 10 people will be in my grade 4, and the rest will go to vocational schools. I am not against vocational schools, half of the class agrees there, but for the rest, who wants to study, give me the opportunity - no! Some are shorter than mats. Education is turned into a service accessible only to the elite.
      1. 0
        4 June 2013 11: 58
        The same situevina in the Novgorod region, only handshakes and excellent students will go to grade 10. The brother finishes the 9th grade, then the technical school - this is at best. But there is also a plus - whoever wants, he will study after serving in the Armed Forces.
      2. rereture
        +4
        4 June 2013 13: 12
        Quote: ole
        classroom gathered parents and said in the 10th grade from mine will get 4 people, and the rest in vocational schools. I am not against vocational schools, half of the class there agree, but the rest of those who want to study give the opportunity - no! Some are shorter than mats. Education is turned into a service accessible only to the elite.


        Firstly, no one will drive your child out, as they have no right. It's just that the teacher hinted that most of the children would not be able to handle it. Those who want to learn have the opportunity, and the indicator of wanting is marks. It's hard to believe that a C grade student would like to study.
        1. 0
          4 June 2013 13: 36
          Quote: rereture
          The teacher just hinted


          she is not a teacher but a teacher, they stopped teaching at school
          1. rereture
            +4
            4 June 2013 13: 47
            Do not cling to words, teachers in universities, but teachers in schools
          2. +2
            4 June 2013 20: 34
            They teach, but do not understand why.
            1. rereture
              +2
              4 June 2013 21: 30
              Everyone thinks to the best of his licentiousness.
              1. +1
                4 June 2013 21: 54
                Here is an illustrator who thought loosely.
        2. ole
          ole
          -1
          4 June 2013 15: 02
          No, they will display the average grade of academic performance in subjects for all years of study and on the basis of it they will be selected, plus there is a gymnasium in the city where children are prepared much better, there is the same situation and education officials simply decided to improve the final grades. And the situation is different, the number of school leavers is decreasing, which will undoubtedly hit higher education, and not the paid branches, but the normal institutions. And I think that they would not talk about the school of life (the army), but higher education is of great importance in the formation of personality.
          1. rereture
            +3
            4 June 2013 15: 14
            It won't hit a turn. If there are many graduates of schools with low scores, then universities drop out the passing score in order to somehow enroll students, as a result, many students do not pull. The quality of university graduates is falling. Any education affects the formation of personality, not necessarily higher.
            1. ole
              ole
              +1
              5 June 2013 07: 33
              Time will tell.
              Quote: rereture
              Any education influences the formation of personality, not necessarily higher education.
              I agree, but the higher influences more strongly (oil, buttered). laughing
  17. +6
    4 June 2013 08: 13
    However, the guest was none other than Sasha Gray- WHO IS THIS ALL ???
  18. Eric
    -2
    4 June 2013 08: 24
    Putin, he will save us, yes, he will save us ...
    1. +2
      4 June 2013 08: 45
      Quote: Eric
      Putin, he will save us, yes, he will save us ...

      Sounds like sarcasm with your nickname.
  19. +7
    4 June 2013 08: 29
    Unfortunately, this applies not only to the first channel, if you look carefully at the program schedule on the central channels, then I have nothing but horror: talk shows, crime, gossip and the same type of series, the meaning of which tends to absolute zero.
  20. Eric
    +5
    4 June 2013 08: 56
    Quote: avant-garde

    Sounds like sarcasm with your nickname.

    This is not a nickname, this is my real name. And yes, it was not sarcasm, but already a mockery ...
  21. +17
    4 June 2013 08: 57
    An attempt at PR of this porn actress in our country is one of the elements of a moral virus launched with the aim of degradation in Russia. This is a blow to our daughters - they say, you see girls, girls can live in high esteem, especially if they had such a creative experience in life as a porn actress. This degree of moral decline should not be taken as the norm.

    If I want to see Sasha Gray, I, secretly from my wife, will go to porn sites, only there she belongs !!!
  22. +12
    4 June 2013 09: 18
    In the 90s, according to polls, 70% of girls dreamed of becoming foreign exchange prostitutes, now this percentage has fallen greatly, which means that society is quietly recovering, because youth is a barometer of society. But interest in such ladies has always been and will be, and this lady cannot be denied in her mind. how she was able to convert her profession into fame and is now making money on it (Maria Magdalena was also not the most honest rules, but now she seems to be a saint)
    1. Svyatoslav72
      0
      9 June 2013 09: 26
      Respected Semurg, don't be fooled.
      1. Now currency ****** have become simple: n *******; actresses; models; kept girls; mistresses, etc. Currency can be exchanged anyway.
      2. Nobody gets well, there are no positive tendencies, other troubles in other forms.
      3. Mary Magdalene was made a prostitute by the clergy, it was they who christened her that way in order to "put a woman in her place" (male chauvenism and church position oblige).
      4. Well! according to Faith - idolatry is a sin, and people are not supposed to "create idols for themselves and worship them" (which is very different from the generally accepted religious concept).
  23. AK-47
    +4
    4 June 2013 09: 46
    ... what can I say ... a herbarium of freaks.

    + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + negative
  24. +3
    4 June 2013 09: 54
    Times are not the best, I must say: earlier a person was, therefore, an integral person, but now the status is convenient appeared: do not look, they say that a lady in life is a complete b .... she is in a different status in our program .. .Funny!
  25. +3
    4 June 2013 10: 00
    Who saw the program, tell me: did she give it to everyone there? Or was it not on air?
  26. +4
    4 June 2013 10: 01
    Normal people talked about the need for the state to turn the face to the country, incl. stop the debasement of the people through the media. So what? But what - GDP, too, only speaks about it. He doesn’t have any opportunities for Ernst and other Gazprommediamillers (TNT, Echo of Moscow) to give between his legs in the face.
    1. +3
      4 June 2013 10: 07
      By the way. The longer the state will pull the rubber in this, the greater will be the resistance in establishing these priorities of morality / patriotism. And not only from liberastov, but also from the accustomed mass. And simply put it is time to reunite the state with the country, but on the terms of the country.
    2. explorer
      +5
      4 June 2013 10: 39
      Quote: My address
      give between the legs in the face.
      good
  27. +3
    4 June 2013 10: 24
    who are you buhurt?
    The deffachka achieved success and earned money with her talent. Having a completely ordinary appearance
  28. +7
    4 June 2013 10: 43
    Neither do we make celebrities. Under Stalin, the military, workers and peasants, doctors were famous. And the servants never became media heroes. The attendants are not only janitors and hairdressers, but also writers whose artists are intended to provide leisure.
    1. +2
      4 June 2013 11: 30
      Quote: Vasya
      The attendants are not only janitors and hairdressers, but also writers whose artists are intended to provide leisure.

      Quote: Vasya
      And the servants never became media heroes.

      Quote: Vasya
      Under Stalin

      Pushkin, on whose works more than one generation of Russian and Soviet people grew up: Gogol, Lermontov, Tolstoy, Yesenin, Sholokhov, Bunin.
      Numerous films based on motives, radio plays, textbooks.
      Actor and director Leonid Gaidai.
      Actor and director Leonid Bykov "Only old men go to battle"
      No, have not heard.
      laughing
      1. +2
        4 June 2013 12: 06
        Pushkin, Gogol, Chekhov had an official job, Lermontov, Tolstoy served.
        Bykov fought. I don't know about Gaidai.
        Chaadaev served. Gorky worked since childhood.
        There are many, almost all, who are considered classics. But THEY were ALL from the people or communicated very closely with them. Everything that they wrote about felt on themselves, felt it. And they wrote mainly in their free time.
        All these creative unions were created by the IVS, to control the "creative intelligentsia". After his death, control was lost.
        As for the intelligentsia and the difference between the intelligentsia and the intellectuals, you will find quotations for yourself.
        I don’t remember who said: I’m an intellectual, sorry, but I have a job (19th century)
        1. +2
          4 June 2013 12: 42
          Quote: Vasya
          The attendants are not only janitors and hairdressers, but also writers whose artists are intended to provide leisure.
          Pushkin, Gogol, Chekhov had an official job, Lermontov, Tolstoy served.
          Bykov fought. I don't know about Gaidai. Chaadaev served. Gorky worked since childhood.
          I don’t remember who said: I’m an intellectual, sorry, but I have a job (19th century

          Do you think that art and culture do not exist, but there is one continuous leisure? :))
          Masterpiece ...
          The phrase quoted and distorted by you belongs to Lev Gumilyov: "I am not an intellectual, I have a profession." This is the 20th century and it was said about his mental work.
        2. 0
          4 June 2013 21: 39
          Well, actually, Chekhov said it, quoting his colleague in the craft of writing.
          1. 0
            5 June 2013 05: 01
            Quote: urganov
            Well, actually, Chekhov said it, quoting his colleague in the craft of writing.

            I have a feeling that many "artists of the mind" said this.
            In particular, Alexander Blok repeated this in the 20s.
            True, the source, alas, I don't remember anymore :(
    2. 0
      4 June 2013 21: 36
      "And here you are lying, uncle ...". Writers and Artists (both professions with a capital letter) are "engineers of human souls". And who can be called a writer or an artist, everyone decides for himself. Degradation of concepts on the face (about the article).
  29. +8
    4 June 2013 11: 05
    let it be the president)))) so honestly))) we will speak the president of the whore))))))) and clap)))) and what will the voter trip turn into)))
  30. Stalin
    +3
    4 June 2013 11: 12
    To shoot everyone to hell. Where 37 years old,. Stalin, come back, put things in order! Another 10 years of this okoshmara and the end of Russian civilization. Where is Putin? When will it start working and pushing counter?
    1. Uhe
      Uhe
      0
      4 June 2013 19: 06
      And he presses - us. Do you think this theater of absurdity has no puppeteer? There is. Why is this all? And so that the units from the environment are enriched. Who are the richest in Russia? And persons close to Himself. The rest of 140 million poor relatives ((c) Surkov-Dudaev) are prescribed - in the brains and live as pigs.
  31. optimist
    +1
    4 June 2013 12: 00
    What's so surprising? What a time, such and "heroes" !!! laughing
  32. Grigorich 1962
    +2
    4 June 2013 12: 06
    Thank you for submitting information. I, too, have always resented this. Hundreds of news agencies broadcast the same and very mediocre. If the Queen of England starts having her period, then our channels will broadcast about this all the days until her period ends. All crap and stupidity are introduced into the rank of main news ... and here too ..... I think that Urgant was pierced ..... I think he is a talented person but ..... such jambs should not be allowed.
    Information policy should be weighed and measured. truthful and with an analysis of the events taking place .... and of course it must still be moral. Considering that worldwide tism comes under the flag of same-sex marriage and juvenile justice
  33. 0
    4 June 2013 12: 06
    Scientists, doctors, engineers, military men, no! Now these are the "actresses" -heroes of our time. But our scientists are stupid, killer doctors, ignorant engineers, military bribe-takers and embezzlers, pedophile teachers, respected Channel One and especially the Jews Urgant and Ernst, you'd better blame yourself on TNT, don't wait to be thrown out of the Ostankino TV tower!
  34. OTAKE
    -9
    4 June 2013 12: 08
    Don't touch Sasha, she is a Goddess! :)


  35. 0
    4 June 2013 12: 17
    Here is the life of our television people!
    You need to relax, just take a business trip with a report about the place of rest, you need a worldwide whore, just invite her to the program, you need a sensation to pretend to be a fool (Sveta from Ivanova or the same Urgantovskaya blandinka), you can drive Putin’s pocket billiards (Takmenev in the program about Putin hands in pockets).
  36. +6
    4 June 2013 12: 31
    Something, brothers, the discussion of this article left the wrong topic ..
    Gives-does not give, takes-does not take ..
    We are here, in the mass - men, as I understand it. So how do we have children? From sighing?
    One works ... with a mighty hammer, the other - with a hard place ... things.
    ...
    Roman, as I understand it, raised a slightly different question, but slipped into the usual proposition of whimsy.
    Who creates such programs and why?
    And it’s well known that it’s on such characters that you can raise the rating.
    Try to show the "secret physicist" - in the process.
    A - .. an anvil .. - on, admire. Even in 3D.
    ...
    And on Sunday there was a children's festival by A. Kabaeva. So I gained impressions - no Sasha Gay is given, although she will suck the mulienne.
    ...
    Optimists move the world!
    1. +5
      4 June 2013 14: 52
      Quote: Igarr
      Roman, as I understand it, raised a slightly different question, but slipped into the usual proposition of whimsy.


      Not at all, you know. Just this in the hypostasis of the porn industry, I do not blame. This is the same as combating bureaucracy or embezzlement in Russia. I am more concerned about the issue of supplying working material from the porn industry in a different quality to TV. And it is in this country.

      It seems to me that you absolutely did not understand me.
      1. +5
        4 June 2013 16: 48
        How did it happen..
        What, did Urgant come to the studio? Or, the gathered "tuziki" poked her into all the holes?
        Then this is not pornography at all - "... the question of filing working material from the porn industry in a different capacity on TV. And in this country."
        A usually dressed girl was sitting there, talking about something - so what?
        Was there a frank demonstration of the copulation act?
        Did someone demonstrate the Deep Throat session?
        No - a silly bazaar and Vanechka's primitive jokes.
        Urgant got another plus in the rating.
        And here we go in righteous anger.
        The slut .. and the buffoon!
        ...
        Indeed, I cannot understand something.
  37. +2
    4 June 2013 12: 53
    Who killed the most people? Because of Hitler, Stalin? Figurines!
    Because of Benjamin Franklin ($ 100) and Co. Not only in the physical, but also in the moral sense.
    PS Although we are mortal, we must not obey perishable things, and, as far as possible, rise to immortality and live in accordance with what is best in us. Aristotle
  38. 0
    4 June 2013 12: 55
    Gentlemen, do not watch television, there 20% - advertising of goods for the "progressive representative of the consumer society" and 80% - informational rubbish with zero intellectual value.

    There are of course rare exceptions. For example, the same Star pleasantly surprises with a live selection.

    But the general trend is on the face.
  39. +4
    4 June 2013 13: 15
    I do not see any precedent in the phenomenon of some kind of person on the federal channel.
    Since the 90s, the vector continues to work with us: "everything is for sale, everything is for maximum profit."
    If there is nothing to attract, the emptiness is colored with "cranberries" and "strawberries".
    Are the numerous vulgar evenings of "humor" less harmful than the one-off appearance of Sasha Gray? And what about the military serials with stsuk special officers and bastards commanders, and "Anticipation" is different from the first master of the entire Russ and on federal money?
    Ernst and Urgant then, where does it come from? If the task of the First Channel commercial enterprise is to make a profit. They are only a consequence of the formulated task, the executive mechanism.
    Within the framework of SUCH enterprise - they are quite successful managers feel
  40. rereture
    +3
    4 June 2013 13: 24
    Quote: ale-x
    The same situevina in the Novgorod region, only handshakes and excellent students will go to grade 10. The brother finishes the 9th grade, then the technical school - this is at best. But there is also a plus - whoever wants, he will study after serving in the Armed Forces.


    In the beginning, everyone shouts: we need workers, builders, people with secondary specialized education. We need scientists, engineers.

    And at the same time, they believe that their child MUST BE a scientist, engineer, specialist with higher education.
    But if he / she does not pull higher, what do the parents do? Correctly buy exams at the beginning of the exam, then the session. As a result, we get economists, managers, specialists who cannot do anything. After all, the main thing is about higher education.
  41. Stalin
    0
    4 June 2013 14: 29
    Venecdiktov with their echoes, Rain, TNT, Novaya Gazeta and other contradictions continue to function quietly. Why is Putin not doing anything? Can anyone know and explain?
    1. Vtel
      -2
      4 June 2013 15: 07
      Who will wet their own. Looks like we have one goal, but different paths.
  42. zevaka84
    -3
    4 June 2013 15: 02
    Are you jealous of someone else's fame? Don't be jealous, it's a sin.
  43. Vtel
    +2
    4 June 2013 15: 05
    Some overseas whore caused such a stir among the general public.

    This is the fruits of the work of "our" kosher mass media to mortify our youth. But Urgant he sho is evening, sho is morning, but still Moishe and he did not become Russian either in nature or in his soul. And it’s not a tricky thing to water with derim from the screen, if it is allowed from above, but what is punished, God will decide.
  44. Eric
    0
    4 June 2013 15: 15
    Quote: Stalin
    Where is Putin? When will it start to work and push the counter?

    "That's the right question!" (FROM)
  45. 0
    4 June 2013 15: 26
    The first channel advertises the famous bl ... Bartachelo ...
  46. 0
    4 June 2013 15: 58
    Yeah ... swam ...
  47. 0
    4 June 2013 16: 15
    I don't see anything bad in Sasha Gray's profession. If you don't know how to work with your brains, work f * ck. It's better this way than the whole life of the parents around the neck. IMHO
  48. 0
    4 June 2013 16: 20
    Generally a strange article. Especially the ending: "... Who and for whose money continues to form the image of the Russian person?
    And where will we sail with this approach? ... "
    Well, if this program is an evening urgant, then it is logical to assume that the urgant continues to form.
    Why lament then? So ask the Urgant these questions. Don't be surprised if you throw up answers.
    Sharpen your head more often - and a lot will become clearer.
  49. +1
    4 June 2013 16: 32
    Vanechka was suddenly promoted to the utmost. All the jokes and laughs, hang out and banter - that's the face of television and Urgant. The goals are clear and transparent. On the surface, loot, in fact, corruption of minds and degradation of values.
    1. alexandr00070
      0
      8 June 2013 16: 23
      Quote: Chen
      Vanechka was suddenly promoted to the utmost. All the jokes and laughs, hang out and banter - that's the face of television and Urgant. The goals are clear and transparent. On the surface, loot, in fact, corruption of minds and degradation of values.

      God's chosen ones do not sleep,
  50. +2
    4 June 2013 16: 46
    "There is nothing new under the Moon ...": read the book "Russophobia" (1983) by academician Igor Shafarevich. Accurate facts and harmonious logic of a scientist-mathematician.
    1. Seraph
      0
      4 June 2013 18: 43
      Beautiful book
  51. +2
    4 June 2013 16: 50
    Also, do not forget about programs about all sorts of pseudo or unscientific garbage, hack work and outright intimidation of the population. Remember documentaries about the mysteries of Nikola Tesla, the exaggerated danger of mold, the mysteries of the pyramids and a bunch of other things that look quite reasonable to ignorant people and thanks to this their every word is believed, but in fact it is all nonsense. Psychics, magicians, conspiracies, damage and other brainwashing on TV make elderly people paranoid, destroy families on this basis or significantly spoil family relationships, while logical reasoning with such “patients” does not lead to anything.
  52. Conepatus
    +2
    4 June 2013 16: 53
    This began under the late Sobchak. In the 90s, he invited Klava Shifer to St. Petersburg, gave her either an ancient icon or a painting (I don’t remember exactly, it was a long time ago) kissed her hand, and what did this hand not hold? I didn’t think so. They showed it on TV, wow, such a bixa made Russia happy with her arrival.
    In general, all these silicone singers and artists (Soviet Razliv) need to be sent to cut down the forest for at least a month for prevention purposes. Then their repertoire will change and they will behave more culturally.
  53. +2
    4 June 2013 16: 56
    It started much earlier, before the revolution.
  54. 0
    4 June 2013 17: 02
    What do you want, gentlemen? Homosexuals are getting married, having children, thank God not in Russia yet, but in Holland there is a party of pedophiles and films are being made about them, saying, poor fellows, no one understands them, it seems to me that old Europe will soon disappear, soon it will become Islamic there if they continue to go on like this inclined God save Russia!
  55. Dromac
    0
    4 June 2013 17: 05
    It was necessary to explain to this madam that her presence on Russian territory was not appropriate or advisable. And this should come from the church at a minimum, and from the authorities at a maximum.
    1. +2
      4 June 2013 17: 46
      Dromac
      If the authorities or the church explain to this woman that she is non grata, imagine what a friendly howl will rise to the skies about the dense Orthodox Church and the obscurantist Pu? And for her, a gift-advertising... in my opinion, here we need to work with the management of the media.
  56. 0
    4 June 2013 17: 06
    Apparently I’m not lost for “Paradise” since I don’t know who Sasha Gray is, or gay, or whatever... feel lol laughing
  57. +4
    4 June 2013 17: 09
    my wife is watching Urgant with this lady...."Who is this, do you know?" - I looked, I don’t know, but being sure that the 1st weavers and collective farmers are unformatted - “damn... what a thread, cinematic ...".
    Damn, psychic.
  58. 0
    4 June 2013 17: 12
    It looks like we are witnessing the next revolution: ...stic and ...philic under the rainbow banner.
  59. ed65b
    +4
    4 June 2013 18: 27
    Muscovites fuck Urgant on the crown in the evening. I don’t even watch Malakhov.
  60. 0
    4 June 2013 18: 32
    It's good that I don't watch zombie box laughing
  61. Seraph
    +2
    4 June 2013 18: 47
    Conclusions:
    1. Don’t watch TV;
    2. Don’t shake hands with Urgant;
    3.stock up HP and weapons
  62. +1
    4 June 2013 18: 55
    I wonder who is the sponsor of her coming here and why he brought it. And it’s good that I don’t watch Urgant anymore. smile
  63. +3
    4 June 2013 19: 29
    I need to wake up somehow on the net to see what kind of beast this “Sasha Gray” is... otherwise I’ll suddenly have the opportunity to communicate with “CULTURED” people... and I’m a big deal... it’ll be awkward.
  64. kosta7491
    -1
    4 June 2013 19: 39
    Well, this is an evening show. And even though she’s still an actress. You can, of course, invite Kalashnikov to the show, for example. But it won’t be a show anymore. There are enough programs like this on TV and I don’t understand the author’s indignation.
  65. kosta7491
    0
    4 June 2013 19: 42
    One can assume))) that the author of this article has never watched erotica in his life. Then one can only feel sorry for him.
    1. +1
      5 June 2013 12: 46
      Quote: kosta7491
      We can assume))) that the author of this article has never watched erotica in his life.

      Yes, you understand, no one takes aim at physiology. If your wife doesn’t let you, go for paid love, you can’t calm down your hormones. There’s a brothel for that. If you’re crushed, run to the toilet, and don’t try to artistically relieve yourself on the main street. And they’re trying to convince us, that it’s normal - to take a shit in front of everyone - creativity, a servant raising children - a creative person. “She’s cool, she’s like us...” No, not like that. If she’s a prostitute, it means that she has crossed the psychological barrier that normal people have it. And to advertise this, presenting it from the screen as a great career success, in my opinion, is immoral
      1. Hon
        -1
        5 June 2013 12: 56
        Quote: revnagan
        Yes, you understand, no one takes aim at physiology. If your wife doesn’t let you, go for paid love, you can’t calm down your hormones. There’s a brothel for that. If you’re crushed, run to the toilet, and don’t try to artistically relieve yourself on the main street. And they’re trying to convince us, that it’s normal to take a shit in front of everyone - creativity, raises children - a creative person. “She’s cool, she’s like us...” No, not like that. If she’s a prostitute, it means that she has crossed the psychological barrier that exists among normal people. And to advertise this, presenting it from the screen as a great career success according to the meme, is immoral

        Come on, you should exaggerate, she didn’t show her films, and she behaved decently, unlike many of our “stars,” and she tries to avoid conversations on this topic. The fact that she is a prostitute, we have such people in the Duma and in the government, but the police are more reminiscent of an organized crime group. Tarzan, Berkova, Chekhova, Malinovskaya constantly participate in television programs, and no one is indignant at anything.
  66. aleksandr.k
    +1
    4 June 2013 19: 44
    Channel One and Russian, this is simply sabotage, this is the Yeltsin-Putin policy of fooling the Russian people
  67. +2
    4 June 2013 19: 56
    It seems not quite... but on topic.
  68. +1
    4 June 2013 19: 57
    Also off topic but...
  69. Sashko07
    0
    4 June 2013 20: 28
    Quote: bask
    I haven't watched it for 2 years now

    I've been here since 2006 already)))
  70. Chebyran
    0
    4 June 2013 20: 39
    Yes, I agree with a lot of what was said here, but... Everything, including interests and the ability to filter information, is laid down in upbringing and education. I myself, just graduated from school, fortunately, I came across an excellent teacher and classmates. While studying (studied) in advanced physics and mathematics. Yes, looking at modern 8-9 grades, it is clear that it is growing. It all depends on upbringing and education.
  71. -6
    4 June 2013 20: 56
    oh, now I’m going to break someone’s truth :)

    “Returning to the audience in “Evening Urgant”, I am sure that these ardent admirers of Sasha Gray’s work do not go to clean-up days, do not lay flowers on the Eternal Flame on May XNUMX: there is simply not enough time. And they don’t really need it. But look There’s always something for American food!”

    1. And I go to cleanup days, and on May 9, and I served in the army
    2. Everyone watches porn, including the author, but of course he won’t tell anyone about it. Man (I'm the author) - I'm watching porn! Imagine, not only am I watching it with my girlfriend, not only that, but I’m also having sex with her. Horror right? ;)
    3. Actually, everyone also distorts the trunk :) But the author is clearly a saint, do you think he doesn’t even know what it is?
    4. Why didn’t you like Sasha Gray? By the way, she officially got a job in the USA (the pornography industry is allowed there), and moreover, she left this business for several years. Moreover, she does not promote this business in her lectures.
    5. By the way, Sasha is a pretty smart girl, by the way, well, she’s definitely smarter than the author
    6. Let's move on. Gentlemen, learn to read between the lines, in essence, the author is calling for another censorship, now he doesn’t like the former porn star, then he will start yelling that there is no need to show a specific person, etc. Ultimately we will come to North Korea - where the leader of the nation will be on TV
    7. The program needs a rating, and that’s why it shows those who should improve this rating. Should I invite Kalashnikov? Are you completely crazy here? He is already quite old to withstand such shows, and what’s more, Urgant would not joke about Kalashnikov, because he is an old and respected person in Russia.
    1. +3
      4 June 2013 23: 14
      Quote: Bad
      oh, now I’m going to break someone’s truth :)

      "Oh times, oh morals...". Don’t remember who said, are you our truth teller?
      If you are talking about censorship, I am for it, only moral. The official one has been on television for a long time. We came to our senses late. Reading between the lines, you did not see what was written in plain text. It's a pity. I'm not a prude. But I don’t want textbooks on sexual “education” of preschoolers and gay pride parades on the streets of our cities to be published in Russia. Or do we need to catch up and overtake Geyropa and the USA? You are for? S.G. I'm not interested. Whether you like it or not, it will remain a symbol of B.... It’s a pity that you can’t call everything in your own words - the text disappears.
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      1. +2
        4 June 2013 23: 30
        The dogs, and the whole background, are a good illustration of the current theme!
    3. ed65b
      +1
      5 June 2013 11: 17
      There are differences between ratings and ratings. Let's then increase the rating by cutting off hands and heads live, intercourse, the rating will also be oh oh oh. Our TV shows are copies of Western TV shows. And that’s where it thrives. Well, it’s not good to show homosexual leaders on Channel 1 who convince the viewer that this is normal.
      1. Hon
        0
        5 June 2013 11: 26
        Quote: ed65b
        Let's then increase the rating by cutting off hands and heads live, intercourse, the rating will also be oh oh oh.

        They wrote this as if you were in the management of the channel and discussing its development strategy. The channel has owners; they themselves will figure out what to do.
    4. +2
      5 June 2013 13: 05
      Quote: Bad
      2. Everyone watches porn, including the author, but of course he won’t tell anyone about it. Man (I'm the author) - I'm watching porn! Imagine, not only am I watching it with my girlfriend, not only that, but I’m also having sex with her. Horror right? ;)

      Well, I found something to be proud of... Until you filmed it, sold this masterpiece for money, discussed it with friends (parents, children, co-workers), your every movement, sigh, etc., a physiological process, will not happen On Urgant’s show, you won’t be able to catch up with Sasha in terms of POPULARITY. And if you then say, “I won’t do this anymore, I’m done,” then maybe they’ll invite you to a children’s channel. I hope it will be an American channel.
  72. 0
    4 June 2013 21: 10
    I watch the current news on the box.
    If the president interferes in the work of television channels, this will be the end of the matter.
    I mean, why should everything be regulated manually, and necessarily by the president.
    They say he has no business at all. Where is the society that was given freedom, and where is the Russian Orthodox Church with condemnation? am .
    1. +1
      5 June 2013 13: 17
      bear

      So ask this question to the Russian Orthodox Church and its patriarch!
  73. +2
    4 June 2013 21: 24
    Quote: bear
    Where is the society that was given freedom, and where is the Russian Orthodox Church with condemnation?


    Where is the church? You must be joking? ;) Churches after problems, when a drunk abbot has an accident in a rather expensive car, are better off not sticking their nose out at all. Otherwise they will remember our Metropolitan’s watch, which could have been used to build a couple of other orphanages, etc.

    Or his motor black yacht, or even the most banal thing - when at a funeral (this is in general) the priest will take a fairly large sum from you for the repose of the soul of the deceased, and, moreover, will not pay a penny of taxes from this matter.

    I consider myself to be a Christian, but I saw all these city priests and their bosses in their coffins, because I respect the priests in the villages, who do not live very richly, and help children and parishioners.
    1. ed65b
      0
      5 June 2013 11: 20
      Zlyuchny is right about this. Our Russian Orthodox Church has recently turned into a commercial closed joint-stock company, which is very sad. It's even more annoying.
  74. Greengo
    0
    4 June 2013 21: 27
    It's time for E. Andreeva to retire! Here she is the new presenter for the program time! Here she is the new nymph of Konstantin Lvovich!
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  75. +1
    4 June 2013 21: 37
    <<<The worst thing is that people come to the conclusion in their brains: it is better to be a bastard and do bad things - there is more money and fame than to be virtuous, at least to the best of your ability>>>
    Show business brought to us by liberals to influence young people is more correctly called SHOW-ENISMAS, since its main task is brainwashing, washing away traditional ideas about morality, ethics, about what is good and what is bad and replacing them with “universal human ones ( Western) values, the main of which, as it turns out, are immorality, vulgarity, conversion and glorification of base human instincts. And all sorts of Urgants, Helmants (note, they are completely mowed as Ivanov) are landsknechts of immorality, vulgarity, whose task is to conquer fragile minds with swagger and arrogance, pictures of a fun, beautiful life, behind which all this abomination is hidden! It’s strange that all this demo is freely walking on TV channels controlled by the state and spreading all this abomination, which confuses viewers: since it’s on the state channel, it means everything is fine, this is possible not only on stage...And all because, obviously, our state itself is controlled by liberals!
  76. 0
    4 June 2013 21: 38
    I don’t know about anyone, but for me television... it’s news and films... documentaries and fiction. To be honest, I missed this TV party and will miss the next one... and I won’t regret it, well, these “Sasha-Mashas” are not interesting to me... they are not authorities for me... and in my circle, too, and in general, people don’t like this ...I think. But regarding the rating... I wonder how they create it for themselves?, this is really higher mathematics for me!
  77. Abakanets
    -3
    4 June 2013 22: 05
    The author is a lurkaeb and an alarmist.
  78. -6
    4 June 2013 22: 40
    By the way, alarmists, do you even know what Sasha did in Russia? ;) And then somehow the author forgot to mention that she was in a motor rally, which drom.ru organized, and by the way she showed herself very worthy, unlike many Russian officials who simply put spokes in the wheels of her and the organizers
  79. +2
    4 June 2013 23: 09
    My opinion is this: before shouting how this was allowed to happen, and where is Putin looking (this is about the visiting “starlet”), let’s first figure out who actually is in charge of television and who controls it? As far as I remember, in the times In the USSR, television work was supervised and directed by the State Committee for Television and Radio Broadcasting under the Council of Ministers of the USSR, i.e. a state body controlled by the Department of Agitation and Propaganda of the CPSU Central Committee. The work of television was built, as it was customary to say, “in the light of decisions” under government and party control like any state organization. And such an organization as Glavlit has its hand in the texts and topics of programs, as well as under what I tried to cover it from an angle. Who now builds and manages the work of television channels - OWNERS, i.e. PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS or their representatives on the board of directors of these channels. And what is most important for a private owner? Naturally, PROFIT, which can be obtained from the sale of airtime for advertising, and For this, you need the notorious rating, to raise which (as well as the member) such “stars” are invited. The ancient Romans demanded “bread and circuses.” You don’t like vulgar television, but you want to live in a free democratic society. There can only be one of two things: vulgar television, or the leading and directing role of the CPSU. Something like this. I think so - if you don’t like it, don’t watch it. If you don’t want your children to watch nasty things, filter the broadcast for them. Before After reading this article, I had no idea about this Sasha, although I watch news programs on TV, and good films too. Unlike some who excitedly shout about the “zombie box”, and themselves, a hundred pounds, watch TV. You have to be able to choose useful for yourself.
    1. +1
      4 June 2013 23: 33
      Captain45-u

      I keep thinking - why the hell do we pay taxes then? Or are these not taxes at all, but quitrents or tribute?

      If the state doesn’t point anywhere, it has nothing to do with it!
      1. 0
        5 June 2013 00: 21
        Quote: aviamed90
        I keep thinking - why the hell do we pay taxes then? Or are these not taxes at all, but quitrents or tribute?

        Taxes do not go to the maintenance of TV channels, if they are not state-owned by 51%. They (private ones) make money for themselves by selling airtime. If you have enough money, like Prokhorov or Usmanov, you can order at least one TV channel for your money, even a cycle of programs and they will show you according to the purchased time.
        1. 0
          5 June 2013 11: 41
          Captain45-u

          Do you really think that the state has nothing to do with it? Have you studied political economy? Don't talk nonsense!

          Nobody removed the control functions of the state, otherwise it loses its meaning.
          Control is one of its main functions.
          The state sets the rules of the game (laws). And here it doesn’t matter whether you are a public sector employee or a private owner, or maybe an oligarch (read: a thief). Everyone MUST be equal before the law.

          And it’s better not to mention Prokhorov and Usmanov. They probably didn’t come out of the mine for 50 years to earn them! This is stolen money. And everyone knows this!
  80. 0
    4 June 2013 23: 33
    Why are you so mad at Sasha? Normal girl. Yes, it works rather rudely, without soul. But she really has more respect than Mikhalkov, who portrays our country as either a concentration camp or a barnyard. I'm glad that she started her tour in Vladivostok. Really a star, really famous. Unlike that bullshit that every year hangs out for our money on the “Pacific Meridians”. By the way, these “Meridians” were invented purely to please Darkin’s wife. And by and large, they are of no interest to anyone except the leadership of the region and the “creators” invited for considerable money. Also, for the sake of this chuvyrly, an opera theater was built for considerable money, which will also only suck money. There's also Fetisov Hall, which is not needed at all. And about the rescuers and others... Have they really achieved success in the modern sense? Well, that means they are not interesting and there is no need for modern Russians to compare themselves to them.
  81. -5
    4 June 2013 23: 47
    Quote: There was a mammoth
    "Oh times, oh morals...". Don’t remember who said, are you our truth teller?
    If you are talking about censorship, I am for it, only moral. The official one has been on television for a long time. We came to our senses late. Reading between the lines, you did not see what was written in plain text. It's a pity. I'm not a prude. But I don’t want textbooks on sexual “education” of preschoolers and gay pride parades on the streets of our cities to be published in Russia. Or do we need to catch up and overtake Geyropa and the USA? You are for? S.G. I'm not interested. Whether you like it or not, it will remain a symbol of B.... It’s a pity that you can’t call everything in your own words - the text disappears.


    oh, how ineptly YOU are trying to manipulate the opinions of others, especially with such stupid distortions ;) whatever, but I understand these technologies, I think much better than many on this forum

    You don’t need much intelligence to write your paragraph for any news, in fact, I “rewind” hundreds of such paragraphs on the tape every day

    Sasha has never once campaigned for gays, sex education, etc. not here in Russia, not over the hill - yes, she worked in the porn industry, but so what? For me, Sasha is better than most of our officials who suck at any “feeding trough”, I’m already silent about part of the opposition - they generally have been around for days

    Symbol B? First of all, at least understand what this concept includes ;)

    What about am I FOR? I'll say no. But I am against persecuting people just because one “section” of society does not like them, because there is no guarantee that this “section” will not like another person in a week, then a third... and after a while there will be an analogue of the “Inquisition” , which will hang people just for not agreeing with their opinions. Now this is actually what the article is doing, because it doesn’t even mention that Sasha took part in a motor rally from Vladivostok to the other outskirts of our country, how she tested cars (one of them is “Kalina”, the same as Putin’s - in fact, that’s what the shit goes for this), how she rejoiced at our nature, culture, way of life - moreover, she was well aware that many would not be happy with her here.

    A cheerful girl, a professional in her field, and as for morality - first conform to it, and then point at others ;) For everyone has their own sins - some hung out with prostitutes at least once, some were drunk with a girl, and some even before marriage (and Did you think this was a moral act? ;). Otherwise, there were some pure little souls here, almost angels.

    By the way, Satan was also an angel...
    1. +3
      5 June 2013 12: 08
      Quote: Bad
      and about morality - first correspond to it,

      As I understand it, the author of this maxim proposes to correspond to the level of morality of the subject: that is, to have intercourse with a hundred or two sexual partners, record it on film and post it for everyone to see?
      1. +1
        5 June 2013 13: 21
        Quote: Onotolle
        As I understand it, the author of this maxim proposes to correspond to the level of morality of the subject: that is, to have intercourse with a hundred or two sexual partners, record it on film and post it for everyone to see?

        +++++++
    2. 0
      5 June 2013 18: 13
      Quote: Bad
      about morality - first comply with it

      You did a great job!!! 999-m?
    3. SergBrNord
      0
      9 June 2013 15: 02
      Quote: Bad
      a professional in his field, but about morality - first correspond to it


      In such cases, I.V. Lenin wrote (sic!) and emphasized.
  82. 0
    4 June 2013 23: 50
    As Professor Preobrazhensky rightly said (“Heart of a Dog”):

    “You, however, watch,” Philip Philipovich said warningly and gloomily, wagging his finger, “still, watch, don’t abuse it!”

    “I’m not evil...” the subject muttered embarrassedly, continuing to undress, “I am, dear professor, only in the form of experience.”

    - So what? What are the results? – Philip Philipovich asked sternly.

    The subject waved his hand in ecstasy.

    – 25 years, I swear to God, professor, nothing like that. The last time was in 1899 in Paris on the Rue de la Paix."
  83. +1
    4 June 2013 23: 56
    In general, strange people, like Sasha and other actresses to watch secretly from their wife, they don’t mind, but as soon as a given person appears on television, then immediately - oh, this is impossible, this is debauchery, this is without morality. Well, just like children, by God :)

    But for example, install a children's browser for your children, prohibit social networks, set a schedule for turning the Internet on and off from the provider - they don't have enough brains to protect their children from this on the Internet. Something I especially don’t notice is that children are actually watching TV lately.
  84. Login1
    0
    5 June 2013 00: 27
    http://poznavatelnoe.tv/makeeva_5kolonna_smi
  85. +3
    5 June 2013 00: 30
    Yes, too, the box is almost inconceivable, it’s better to read a good book, it’s much more pleasant than it’s crap, rubbish, watching the World Hockey or Football Championships in the courtyard with people and beer, yes, this is sacred))
    I didn’t even know who she was until I saw the picture)))
    1. Hon
      0
      5 June 2013 08: 06
      Quote: regressSSSR
      world championships in hockey or football in the yard with people and beer, yes, this is sacred))

      By the way, this is the daughter of Olympic hockey champion Alexander Kozhevnikov.
  86. 0
    5 June 2013 00: 45
    By the way, another cool poster with Kokovo real estate culture of the Soviet space, probably 30 years ago, maybe 50-60, I won’t say more precisely))
  87. 0
    5 June 2013 05: 13
    from the Don.
    What kind of power, including on TV, invites such Blahs!
  88. OTAKE
    +1
    5 June 2013 05: 30
    Why did you attack Sasha, she’s been acting for about 2 years now, but she’s not acting, she sings songs, she’s into acting, initially she was invited to Russia by the whole bunch, we don’t show that on TV, Sasha is compared to our whores and p*ssies just a goddess
  89. 0
    5 June 2013 06: 10
    The fact that on the screen there is only shit and party slut, you shouldn’t be surprised. The media have been fighting for a long time
    to destroy the people and the state. “Values” alien to our people are introduced, a false model of vision is set, the concepts between good and evil are blurred. We must understand that the media are the most important element of the occupation power. Now the priority task has been set to remove the media from external control. Without There can be no talk of any kind of revival of Russia.
  90. 0
    5 June 2013 09: 02
    Nobody needs useful people; they are boring, old and boring. But porn stars are much better!!!


    And this is our reality. Where are we sailing....
  91. 0
    5 June 2013 13: 23
    Naryl about Sasha’s “creativity”...
    Anecdote: Sasha is engaged in her “work” with a married Mr. Then the Mr.’s ring flies off his finger and there... into the actor’s hole. The man followed with his hand... He fumbled and fumbled, no, he didn’t find it. Well, he climbed in completely, lo and behold, light at the end of the tunnel. He approaches the light source and sees two healthy black road workers sitting. He says, “Guys, have you seen a wedding ring here?”
    They say, what are you talking about, mister. Our asphalt paver here has failed, and we haven’t been able to find it for three weeks now...
  92. Svyatoslav72
    +1
    5 June 2013 14: 02
    Yes! they showed this crowd of hypertrophied grownups (who met her), they were snot coming out of happiness. Moreover, this mare is not that “sexy” (only if the rear bumper is of interest) and she looks worse than the average female. It would be something to rejoice and beat in ecstasy, apparently the population there is completely in decline.((((
    1. Hon
      +4
      5 June 2013 15: 43
      Quote: Svyatoslav72
      What does this mare have to do with, she’s not that “sexy”

      By the age of 25, Sasha has starred in about two hundred films. You need to suck kilometers of dicks to reach such heights!!! She worked tirelessly for several years in a row, and even today she has her mouth full of worries... Sasha, our everything, she should be given citizenship and elected to the Duma!!!
  93. 0
    5 June 2013 17: 38
    Quote: Onotolle

    As I understand it, the author of this maxim proposes to correspond to the level of morality of the subject: that is, to have intercourse with a hundred or two sexual partners, record it on film and post it for everyone to see?


    the author meant that before condemning others, like how immoral they are, in particular SG, for this purpose they must be the most moral people .. and we have only a few moral people, and they certainly don’t know about the Internet ;)
  94. -2
    5 June 2013 18: 19
    Quote: Onotolle

    As I understand it, the author of this maxim proposes to correspond to the level of morality of the subject: that is, to have intercourse with a hundred or two sexual partners, record it on film and post it for everyone to see?


    the author meant that before condemning others, like how immoral they are, in particular SG, for this purpose they must be the most moral people .. and we have only a few moral people, and they certainly don’t know about the Internet ;)
    Quote: There was a mammoth
    "“ "I was famed for my work in the industry, and I am not ashamed of anything and do not regret anything. The most important thing is that, despite my unconventional pursuits, my family supported me all the time." These are the words of S.G. So that she is not the former. A little family. As M. Weller said: "She has failed. You see, there are no w ... x exes. Just like thieves and murderers." We, too, young people, used to be condemned when we listened to the Beatles or ABBA. I understand that you want to listen to what you like, and not what is imposed. There is no dispute about tastes. But about morality, yes. About the attitude to idols, who has the main working tool between their legs, yes. An article on morality. In general, "promoted"


    Everyone's morals are different. Here, for example, prostitution is illegal in our country, but all such moralists (well, most of them) once thrust such a thing on a person. Now let’s imagine that they started working legally? Immoral? Maybe yes, maybe not, because the men won’t stop pissing on them, but the taxes will go to the state, these taxes will be used to support orphanages, etc.

    S.G. worked as an official. she was an actress, by the way, she paid quite reasonable taxes (you google her earnings, but most of you will not earn much in your entire “consciously moral” life), why should she be ashamed of this if it is normal in her country? And let us note that a prostitute is different, because the first one works under a contract and decides with whom she will act and with whom she does not, but the latter does not have much of a choice, and she does not pay taxes and other things. We have all the glamor of women, complete prostitution, so they all say in unison - yes, we earned it ourselves, yeah, sitting at home and going to clubs at night :) S.G. at least he's not afraid to tell the truth

    We ourselves, men, are watching this case - so this is normal, but if the actress decides to go somewhere, this is immoral. The logic is straight iron :)
    1. SergBrNord
      0
      9 June 2013 15: 11
      http://joyreactor.cc/post/738589
      No acquaintances in the photo? It became very interesting after reading your posts.

      PS
      The internal logic of your posts is very reminiscent of expressions ala “All men -”; “All women are *lady”; “If I *yay, then everyone *yays.”
  95. Svyatoslav72
    +1
    9 June 2013 09: 11
    As I observe, many do not understand the danger of what happened. A! namely, there is a massive scotinization of the population through the erosion of ideas: what is good; what is bad and how one should be. Some people think that if you behave like the last degenerates and degenerates, then it is fashionable and modern.
    Some, especially offended, rushed to justify the scam and make comparisons of their disappointments (this is psychology). But! it serves as an affirmation of decay and fall.
    Don't forget the main thing: - The more the enemy decays, the easier it is to destroy him. Because the enemy does not have values ​​that he needs to protect, these are simple instincts and they stop working.
    Yes! I also watched porn. I'm especially fascinated by Russian porn; there are often 11-15 year old porno fools with the same "male cast". The question arises: - Ah! that st.uk. Do they not apply to porn entrepreneurs? For some reason, no one is looking for them, and no one is checking how the “trifles” get there. But! If you consider that “money doesn’t smell” and this is “grandma”, then you understand that for money you can do anything, anywhere. Especially in the most backward and rotten subhuman herds.
    Some desires allow them to corrupt and decay, others instincts allow them to destroy those they consider a threat. In general, everything is fair, this is a pattern. All that remains is to wait to see who and where there will be more, and whose time will come.
  96. shamil
    0
    9 June 2013 12: 06
    Yes, he invited Urgant Gray for a rating, he teased her, but if she had moved in, what did he tell her, she wouldn’t have smiled so much, she would have sat giggling
    And all of you! Who wouldn't want one of these for once? Who doesn't have porn at home? Ana television invites much more dangerous people who propagate their views and influence the consciousness of young people.
  97. Field
    0
    9 June 2013 13: 33
    Quote: Bad
    We ourselves, men, are watching this case - so this is normal, but if the actress decides to go somewhere, this is immoral. The logic is straight iron :)


    If you look p..but, then look at your health (or not at your health). There is no need to generalize yourself in this case with everyone.
    There is nothing wrong with the fact that the “actress” (and in my opinion just...duh) decided to go somewhere.
    It’s not good that this (scary, by the way) chick is being promoted on our federal (read state) channel.

    And by the way, there is no need to point out Mary Magdalene here - there is no evidence that she was a prostitute.

    Svyatoslav72
    I support, they have already become brutalized and then only mass sodomy...
  98. +3
    9 June 2013 21: 19
    On March 1, 2010, Hero of the Soviet Union, Honored Test Pilot, Major General of Aviation Vladimir Sergeevich Ilyushin passed away. Our television doesn’t say a word...If any incident happens to a show business star, they will broadcast day and night. Our TV and the media in general have become somehow “strange”.