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Deliveries of Mistral universal landing ships to Russia upset the balance of forces in the Far East

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In Japan, they are concerned about the agreement between Moscow and Paris on the supply to Russia of two universal landing ships (UDC) of the Mistral type. This was announced today in Singapore by Japanese Defense Minister Itunori Onodera during negotiations with his French counterpart Jean-Yves Le Drian, who were on the margins of the forum of heads of military departments of the countries of the Asia-Pacific region in the framework of the so-called "Shangri-Dialogue".


"This decision upsets the balance of power in the Far East," Onodera said.

Currently, the construction of two Mistral UDCs (Vladivostok and Sevastopol), intended for transfer to the Russian Navy, is under construction at a French shipyard in Saint-Nazaire. Earlier, the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces noted that at least one of them could be transferred to the Pacific the fleet.

Displacement UDC "Mistral" is 21,6 thousand tons, the maximum length of the hull - 200 meters, speed - up to 19 nodes, cruising range - up to 11 thousand miles at a speed of 15 nodes. The crew has 177 people and 230 people. in the composition of the wing. In addition, the ship can take on board the 450 marines and up to 60 units of light vehicle vehicles. The air group includes 16 helicopters, six of which can simultaneously be placed on the takeoff deck.
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  1. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 3 June 2013 09: 49
    23
    Kul to you, not the Kuril Islands!
    1. Denis
      Denis 3 June 2013 09: 53
      11
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Kul to you, not the Kuril Islands!

      To each island on the Mistral!
      1. skeptic
        skeptic 3 June 2013 10: 03
        17
        Quote: Denis
        To each island on the Mistral!


        What for? Each island is inherently unsinkable aircraft carrier. The equipment of the runway and infrastructure on the islands is cheaper than aircraft carriers, and you can put anything you want.
        1. Denis
          Denis 3 June 2013 10: 05
          +6
          Quote: skeptic
          What for?

          And to swim in Japan if that ..
          1. crazyrom
            crazyrom 7 June 2013 06: 16
            0
            Since the Japs were frightened, then the Mistrals were not in vain bought. Although it is a pity for money, of course, it would be possible to do it ourselves.
        2. orff
          orff 3 June 2013 10: 09
          +4
          News blah blah blah.
          It is surprising that the Japanese say their fears to the country where the ships are being built, and not to Russia. at one time the USSR built ships in Poland.
          And often did the NATO turn to the Poles with apprehension?
        3. zanoza
          zanoza 3 June 2013 10: 51
          +1
          Quote: skeptic
          Runway equipment and infrastructure, on islands, cheaper, ...


          And they built and equipped in the late 70s ...., started with tents and dugouts, but almost all were abandoned and squandered. Service and life there was not honey .... everything was imported (well, except for fish ...), but you won’t be fed up with beautiful nature for living on islands, they don’t pay money. People leave the islands ...
        4. Army1
          Army1 3 June 2013 14: 50
          +1
          Quote: skeptic
          What for? Each island is inherently unsinkable aircraft carrier. The equipment of the runway and infrastructure on the islands is cheaper than aircraft carriers, and you can put anything you want.

          Considering, that Japan is full of destroyers with MK-41 i.e. with tomahawks, well, or with something like that it’s dangerous to have an airfield, you need to put coastal missile systems there and with 400, without advertising.
          1. Don
            Don 3 June 2013 16: 19
            0
            Quote: Army1
            Considering, that Japan is full of destroyers with MK-41 i.e. with tomahawks

            Yes, but there are no Tomahawks on them, only anti-ship missiles, PLUR and ZR.
            1. Army1
              Army1 3 June 2013 18: 05
              0
              Quote: Don
              Yes, but there are no Tomahawks on them, only anti-ship missiles, PLUR and ZR

              RCC seems to be separate, but I have no doubts that the Yankees can help.
        5. does it
          does it 3 June 2013 21: 42
          0
          Quote: skeptic
          What for? Each island is inherently unsinkable aircraft carrier. The equipment of the runway and infrastructure on the islands is cheaper than aircraft carriers, and you can put anything you want.

          But what about seismic activity in this area. Or Vladimir Volfovich is wrong ...
      2. andrejwz
        andrejwz 3 June 2013 10: 11
        +2
        Quote: Denis
        Quote: Scandinavian
        Kul to you, not the Kuril Islands!

        To each island on the Mistral!

        Are you talking about our islands or the Japanese? laughing
      3. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 3 June 2013 11: 49
        +2
        Each island has an airfield, air defense system, anti-ship missiles, and other delights) And it’s best to develop infrastructure, fly to the Kuril Islands, but from the mainland to the Kuril Islands more expensive than to Japan .......
      4. T-100
        T-100 3 June 2013 15: 43
        0
        To each island on the Mistral!

        These Mistrals do not need nafig, it was better to order a destroyer or an atomic cruiser - this is much more menacing than the Mistral.
        1. Don
          Don 3 June 2013 17: 05
          0
          Quote: T-100
          These Mistrals do not need nafig, it was better to order a destroyer or an atomic cruiser - this is much more menacing than the Mistral.

          Destroyers are also needed, but large landing helicopter carriers too.
      5. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 4 June 2013 00: 23
        0
        Quote: Denis
        Quote: Scandinavian
        Kul to you, not the Kuril Islands!

        To each island on the Mistral!


        Okinawa 2, the rest one by one laughing laughing ...
    2. Rustam
      Rustam 3 June 2013 10: 51
      +4
      Ish, as cross-eyed, became agitated, understanding the potential of our future UDC.
      Yes, and among us, the bulk of the people already understand that the Mistrals are first-class ships.
      In 2014, the first one will already fly under the Andreevsky flag, and the pace of construction at 21 tons is simply fantastic
      1. DEfindER
        DEfindER 3 June 2013 13: 02
        +1
        Quote: Rustam
        Yes, and among us, the bulk of the people already understand that the Mistrals are first-class ships.

        Well, until they take up combat duty and do not swim in full combat load, it is difficult to draw conclusions about the classiness of the ships, the parameters are good, but how reliable the ship will be in terms of our climate, let's see ..
        1. Rustam
          Rustam 3 June 2013 14: 10
          +1
          Agree
          But it already depends on crew training and infrastructure readiness, not long left
      2. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr 3 June 2013 17: 03
        0
        Ships do not actually sail ...
    3. Quiet
      Quiet 3 June 2013 19: 48
      0
      This decision upsets the balance of power in the Far East, "Onodera stressed.

      Onodera - And who is it ??? New Secretary of State, Or Chairman of the UN Security Council? ... lol Rather, an ordinary bureaucrat working out his daily pinch of rice .... wassat lol
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 4 June 2013 04: 15
      +1
      this floating hostel will not break any balance, you think, a big, tin box .... laughing
  2. igor36
    igor36 3 June 2013 09: 49
    +4
    It is urgent to develop shock UAVs for basing on the Mistral, then it will be a more or less full-fledged combat unit.
  3. Harakternik
    Harakternik 3 June 2013 09: 50
    +2
    Fear a samurai for tsushima answer angry
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 3 June 2013 09: 57
      10
      They answered for tsushima in 1945, they still whine!
      1. Tambov we ...
        Tambov we ... 3 June 2013 13: 07
        +1
        I also wanted to say. And yet - they got a full buzz for an incomplete month - from August 1 to 21. And the Amy have been floundering with them since 1941 ...
        1. Quiet
          Quiet 3 June 2013 19: 54
          0
          And the Amy have been floundering with them since 1941 ...

          They hope that the samurai spirit that they are going to use against Russia is still strong ??? Ame - the rulers clearly gluttonized dried mushrooms .... wassat
  4. Road runer
    Road runer 3 June 2013 09: 51
    +9
    Despite the numerous criticism of the Mistrals, with the correct use of these vessels, high efficiency can be achieved. For example, I suppose that it will be in demand when carrying out amphibious operations to seize islands by marines with the support of helicopters. Therefore, these ships are in the right place in the Far East. Let the Japanese "sleep peacefully" and dream of the Kurils wassat
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  5. svp67
    svp67 3 June 2013 09: 52
    +7
    Japan is concerned about ... an agreement ... on the supply to Russia of two Mistral-class universal amphibious assault ships (UDC).
    If the "not very friendly side" is concerned, everything seems to be going well on our side ...
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 3 June 2013 10: 38
      +6
      The Japanese have already expressed similar concern about the acquisition of the Varyag by China, the answer was the project 22DDH (in fact, an aircraft carrier), a larger ship than the Hyuga, which is also not a trifle, and, well, it will be cooler than the Mistral. Probably, now, in response to us, a full-fledged aircraft carrier will be a reason to build.
  6. dominion
    dominion 3 June 2013 09: 54
    +2
    They are afraid that Hokkaido may become native Russian land! smile
  7. HAIFISCH
    HAIFISCH 3 June 2013 09: 55
    +4
    The Japanese are in vain nervous, since who is who and we are the last ones on the list who are pursuing an aggressive policy on dv. Another thing is that we have every right to strengthen our grouping, and such statements are more likely for pro forma and nothing more.
  8. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 3 June 2013 09: 56
    +8
    "This decision upsets the balance of power in the Far East," Onodera said.

    Long live the imbalance. And as much as possible in our favor.
    wink
    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 3 June 2013 10: 29
      13
      And did you believe the minister? Have you forgotten about Eastern cunning? Did you believe Japan is scared? So the minister’s goal has been achieved. He put pink glasses on you and hung them on the ears of Japanese rice noodles.
      Now, seriously. Mistral is good.
      Japan - 3 modern helicopter ships - dock type "Osumi", 1998, 2002 and 2006
      2 helicopter destroyers of the "Hyuga" type with 11 helicopters on board.
      2 helicopter-carrying destroyers.
      Destroyers URO 8
      Destroyers 30
      6 frigates
      PL 16 (18)
      Plus a mosquito fleet from missile boats to hovercraft.
      To upset the balance, it is necessary to restore to the level of the Red Banner Pacific times of the Soviet Union, answering and leading the present time.
      Do not believe the Japanese (and generally anyone who is outside the borders with Russia) bring gifts, but believe the verified information. That state is more fraught with strong intelligence, effective counterintelligence and sources of misinformation.
      1. waisson
        waisson 3 June 2013 10: 53
        +3
        Yes, Mistral neighbors alone do not scare them; they need a good escort for protection, and without protection they are floating barges and only
  9. domovoi
    domovoi 3 June 2013 09: 58
    +6
    bl ** b, as much as possible already. then human rights, then the balance of power. and the fact that in the US the military budget does not upset the balance more than anyone else ?! Expect to fuck Japan, Israel, oil monarchs and other mongrels ... though not, you need to tumble the dollar, then everything will resolve by itself. is it really not clear that praise from the west and mongrel can only be expected in the event of complete disarmament, renunciation of territories, natural wealth and sovereignty. then they’ll say: well done!
  10. Wedmak
    Wedmak 3 June 2013 10: 03
    0
    Choi that the Japanese were afraid of this barge with helicopters? This is not a destroyer, nor a cruiser, nor a submarine from the Kyrgyz Republic ... A control ship with few capabilities to support the landing. Although the landing is certainly enough to arrange a picnic on the disputed islands ...
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 3 June 2013 11: 35
      0
      On such a barge, it is convenient to transport prisoners for the development of Mother Siberia. They worry so that they don’t forget about comfort. wassat
  11. fenix57
    fenix57 3 June 2013 10: 05
    0
    "This decision upsets the balance of power in the Far East," Onodera stressed.- about the balance of what forces is entot Japanese talking about if:
    - there is no peace treaty between our states;
    - There is no air force in Japan, only self-defense troops. Sake drank something. Ay-yai-yay, not good ... laughing
  12. Warrawar
    Warrawar 3 June 2013 10: 08
    +5
    Apparently the Mistrals are not so bad as if they were not trying to present them in the media. Our all the same, are not complete ignoramuses, so that they would not need to purchase such equipment ..
    1. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr 3 June 2013 17: 08
      -1
      For your information, it was not ours who bought it, but stools with a secret hero ... Fear of the gifts ....
  13. LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 3 June 2013 10: 09
    +3
    Let the Japs worry further! I think they will shut their mouths for a long time!
  14. shamil
    shamil 3 June 2013 10: 09
    +6
    it seems like there was so much negativity in the press about the Mistrals, but no, in the Pacific Fleet it turns out they are annoying the Japanese, so they are needed!
    1. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr 3 June 2013 17: 10
      0
      The Japanese are annoyed by everything - any sneeze of our military-political leadership in the Far East, and they have an earthquake ...
  15. avant-garde
    avant-garde 3 June 2013 10: 11
    +5
    The howl of our "friends" is just a song for my ears, come on to the military-industrial complex, dear, you give a 5-tap hole in a year !!!!
  16. Russ69
    Russ69 3 June 2013 10: 12
    +3
    The Japanese have an interesting logic. The transfer of additional convertoplanes is an increase in the defense capability, and the Mistral to the Far East is an immediate violation of the balance of power.
    need to offer the Japs, Russia does not place "Mistral" on the Far East. and the Japs cut all their own on pins and needles .... And then the complete balance, no joys for others.smile
  17. pinecone
    pinecone 3 June 2013 10: 35
    0
    Apparently, this is just an excuse for the Minister of Defense of Japan to "voice" the ardent wishes of the country's defense industry to receive new orders.
  18. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 3 June 2013 10: 51
    +2
    They made fun of the Japanese being afraid of these slow-moving sheds. Targets as in a dash whom they can frighten.
    1. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 3 June 2013 12: 46
      +1
      Quote: vladsolo56
      They made fun of the Japanese being afraid of these slow-moving sheds. Targets as in a dash whom they can frighten.

      The same can be said about aircraft carriers, but neither one nor the other go one at a time.
  19. shpuntik
    shpuntik 3 June 2013 12: 41
    +1
    The mouth of the Japanese minister says the US government. Japan is their patrimony. The USA by all means achieve that there would be no peace treaty, and there is a counterbalance to Russia. Such was the Russo-Japanese War of 1905.
    I had to communicate with "samurai", yes "the east is a delicate matter", but they are much more adequate than the Yankees (as an example: respectful attitude towards our prisoners of war, after Tsushima). With a skillful approach, they could become a second Mongolia and be neutral towards us. But they were bombed by the Yankees, the Yankees, and they dictate the rights there.
    Once a question was asked to a Japanese: “So we Russians had nuclear bombs and did not drop them on you, the Americans did, and now you are friends with them, you work, and we are enemies. How to explain? He says that there was a war, they were forced to do so, they won the war, and we respect them as winners. "
    1. DEfindER
      DEfindER 3 June 2013 13: 24
      +1
      Quote: shpuntik
      Once a question was asked to a Japanese: “So we Russians had nuclear bombs and did not drop them on you, the Americans did, and now you are friends with them, you work, and we are enemies. How to explain? He says that there was a war, they were forced to do so, they won the war, and we respect them as winners. "

      How can one not be friends with amers, they protect them, almost for free, from the cruel Russians and North Koreans, if not for the amers, the poor Japanese would have long been wiped off the face of the earth ..
      By the way, in one of Leontyev’s programs about Japan, I heard that many schoolchildren already think that we dropped nuclear bombs on them, and the Americans freed the Japanese people from the insidious dictator - the emperor. So propaganda does not stand still, and soon they will blame us for all sins.
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik 3 June 2013 23: 34
        0
        DEfindER Today, 13:24 ↑
        "many schoolchildren think that we dropped nuclear bombs on them"

        That's for sure. They know how to brainwash, they lie like Trotsky, Goebels and Gorbachev, one field of berry.
  20. individual
    individual 3 June 2013 12: 55
    0
    And what should we actually discuss the problems of Japan!
    Their headache relieves the tension of our nervous system.
  21. sandrmur76
    sandrmur76 3 June 2013 12: 56
    +1
    Personally, I am not against the Mistral, but this is a drop in the ocean. Japan has a very serious fleet and in which case the Mistral will not sail anywhere. And the article is about nothing! So the uncles sat gossiping and that’s all. This is politics. what
  22. Strashila
    Strashila 3 June 2013 13: 41
    -1
    "This decision upsets the balance of power in the Far East," Onodera stressed. Done right, this decision reduces the defense capability of Russia.
  23. Navuxonastupil
    Navuxonastupil 3 June 2013 14: 33
    +1
    The most for the Far East! To Japan to drive for right-hand drive!
  24. shinobi
    shinobi 3 June 2013 15: 24
    0
    Two Mistrals with a full-scale amphibious landing will not do the weather. The Kuril island chain is guarded mainly by coastal mobile anti-ship complexes and strategic naval aviation. Well, a pair of nuclear missile boats hang out on an ongoing basis. Russia has never pursued a marine predatory policy, so these measures are more than enough.

    PS: There, samurai do not have random choices on the nose? And then they have before the elections a common thing to yell about the Russian invaders and their island claims.
  25. Armata
    Armata 3 June 2013 20: 10
    0
    Yes Yes. As soon as the pezhik come, they will immediately break everything. Naive. Simple question. And how many frog eaters do they have? And the Spaniards like that? So they are members of NATO (well, Thracians are like cheap courtesans who will pay the most), but the fact is that Yapis are Spaniards who are sitting in NATO. Yes 2 ship from excuse me-straight and break?