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Condoms on Eternal Flame: new pages of mockery over the memory of fallen warriors

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One gets the impression that Russian citizens are systematically and methodically trying to accustom themselves to treating abomination with outright indifference. Like, accustom yourself to the thought: my hut is on the edge, and if someone wants to organize actions that are incompatible with historical by the traditions of society, I want to organize provocative actions, this should not interest me in any way, because these actions are personally directed at me. The message is clear: today - to sow the seed of indifference in our minds, tomorrow - to turn us into a submissive herd, ready to even go to the slaughter with irresistible humility. In the wonderful Soviet motion picture Afonya, one of the heroes pronounces the following words: “Traitors and murderers are not so terrible, since they can only betray or kill, but those who are indifferent are terrible. It is with their tacit consent that all crimes occur. ”


This time, another action of abomination, clearly aimed at assessing the level of indifference in Russian society, was noted this time in Togliatti. Against the background of the latest manifestations of outright abuse of the memory of Soviet soldiers, who gave without any exaggeration the freedom of the world from the plague of fascism, the action of the ANO SPN Project April became a kind of complement to the vileness that is spreading throughout the country (and not only, by the way, according to ours) .

A group of “April” activists decided to organize an action on the International Day of Remembrance of AIDS Victims, during which they gathered to tell Togliatti people about the problems of increasing the number of patients with the syndrome in the Samara Region and to honor the memory of those who died from diseases caused by immunodeficiency in the region. It would seem that an educational action with a completely rational and good direction, if not for one thing ... Young people decided to arrange this action at the Eternal Flame, and “decorate” their “show” with a remarkable element: a plate with condoms placed on the monument to fighters who fell in the years of the Great Patriotic War, with the subsequent distribution of contraceptives to passersby. If this is not an abomination and not a provocation, then what? ..

If the participants of the action decided to draw the attention of Togliatti people to the problems of HIV and AIDS in the city, it was difficult to find a more inappropriate place for this. And what: the organizers did not understand this? Their brains were so absorbed in fighting the spread of acquired immunodeficiency syndrome that they did not realize what they were doing? All understood, all aware! It is obvious. It is also obvious that the place for the action was not chosen spontaneously - with an eye to the fact that the action will cause a resonance, Project April will thunder, and then everything will calm down, since indifference in our society sometimes beats all records. Resonance, indeed, was caused, this very “April” thundered, only with the cultivation of subsequent indifference a clear puncture came out ...

The holding of such an “enlightenment” action by the “Project April” caused a real indignation both in Tolyatti itself and beyond. Condoms on the Eternal Flame in a country where it is difficult to find a family who did not lose any of their relatives and relatives during the Great Patriotic War - a mockery of a special nature.

Representatives of the public organization "Officers of Russia" sent a request to the reception office of the Samara governor and the local prosecutor's office with a request to assess the trick of young people in Togliatti.

Could not remain indifferent to the manifestation of vandalism as ordinary people, so representatives of the authorities. In particular, State Duma Deputy Olga Batalina called for combating the desecration of monuments, forcing people to take responsibility for their actions, which are a blow to public foundations. True, the negative side in the action "Project April" saw not all. One of such gentlemen was the Togliatti deputy, a fair justice, who said that he did not see anything reprehensible in the action against AIDS, because the Eternal Flame, quote:
"Is it a common symbol and what a scary thing was it used to enhance the effect of another action?"


Obviously, to the notice of the Togliatti deputy at one time did not bring the information that the Eternal Flame, burning on the monuments in memory of the fallen soldiers during the Great Patriotic War, symbolizes. In connection with the statement of this legislator, you begin to doubt that the word “fair” is an exact term suitable for the name of the party, according to the lists of which this gentleman was elected.

The writer Sergey Shargunov spoke about the action of the “Project April”. His words are quoted by Rossiyskaya Gazeta:
I am truly sorry for those who are sick and dying of AIDS, this is a real problem. But the Eternal Flame is a tribute to those who died in the Great Patriotic War. And only them. A mixture of characters, which we were offered in Togliatti, looks absurd. By and large, it can offend those who fought. To mix one with another is a bad eclecticism. The relevance of such games should always be respected, especially when they touch upon tragic and so high themes. It requires a special feeling. I think that any actions, even with the best of intentions, around the Eternal Flame are inappropriate. I am sure that it would be more useful if the activists of the fight against AIDS tried to support our doctors or started the fight against drug mafia.


If we talk about the incident in Tolyatti, then this is not an isolated case. In our country, people managed to grow up, who understand the presence of the Eternal Flame as a symbol of memory in their own way. And also those for which the second word in the phrase “Eternal Flame” is decisive has grown up: to fry sausages, for example, to sit in the company in the winter - drink a bottle or two or three beers and warm your hands ... A sort of urban picnic ...

However, many frankly do not understand why society accuses them of mocking the memory of dead soldiers. Like, what a mockery - we just grilled kebabs ... Misunderstanding of some is perfectly used by others who are ready to foam at the mouth to prove that there was no abuse, that these are media notions, methodically moving towards their goal - to trample the people’s memory of their history as such . In this regard, one can imagine an attempt to justify the action in Togliatti by one of the supporters of its holding. Information taken from the page of the ANO SPN “Project April” in one of the social networks.

Natalia Chirkunova:
I consider such statements to be another informational duck of the yellow press. Surprisingly, this was picked up by the media, without even really understanding the situation. And the purpose of the event had nothing to do with the memory of the war heroes. The fact is that the organizers of the rally found Freedom Square, where the monument is located, the most crowded for Sunday. The local population goes to the square for a walk, and there is quite a lot of people on weekends. The monument is located in the center of the square, where the participants of the event are located so that they can be seen from across the square. All these actions are quite logical and understandable.


The girl is clearly one of those who are already on the hook of the organizers of such actions.

Of course, it is logical ... But if so, then why would the activists of the “April Project” not hold the same action, for example, in the station toilet, because there one day more people pass than the area ... The guys have not finished ...
Is there a means that once and for all put in place those who wish to “play the masses” by desecrating the holy places of the people? Of course there is! It is called: article 214 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Vandalism". One year’s time - for correctional work on sweeping the same square in Tolyatti and caring for the monument with the Eternal Flame (this is at best), perhaps there will be bright thoughts about how to convey to the public in a more civilized way ideas about the fight against the spread of terrible diseases and other thoughts.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 27 May 2013 07: 15 New
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    Ur.dy, deficiencies, su.i, scum and tv.ry! I have no other positive epithets for these renegades!
    Punish them the Righteous God!
    1. Denis
      Denis 27 May 2013 07: 23 New
      55
      There used to be popular squads, if these pi..ry got them, the squads would not stand on ceremony and would solve the issue on the spot ....
      1. BARKAS
        BARKAS 27 May 2013 08: 04 New
        54
        Quote: Denis
        vigilantes would not stand on ceremony and would solve the issue locally ....

        Well, I can’t but agree by the way in the Kuban villages where Cossack patrols work, such an abomination is practically impossible!
        1. Sashka
          Sashka 29 May 2013 19: 35 New
          10
          Such an abomination is practically possible everywhere ... I already once wrote about who goes to such squads. And believe me, many of the moral monsters on such squads are slaughtered, because they (squads) include non-authoritative members who are not related to the Cossacks ...
          So, once in the village of N, Krasnodar Territory in the central park on May 9 at about 5 pm there was a unique case. There were few companies that were drunk and slightly. I was with my wife and barking in a stroller. In one of the companies, several people were on scooters that rode around the park, leaving marks on the tiles. One drove past us, waking Ialah, or rather he didn’t, but flashed with screams. The next time, I stopped him, and tried to explain that he was x..lo, and .......... - in general, "radish". Since he realized that the forces were not equal, he silently left, and after 5 minutes he returned not alone. I don’t know, they barely stood on their feet, and most likely I would have mastered them, BUT my spouse and Lala are an argument to try to solve the matter in words. About 30 meters there was another company, pretty drunk, but cultured - bottles and rubbish were thrown exclusively into the urn, and only laughter and a perfectly acceptable vocabulary with rare obscene inserts were heard .... So, they realized what was happening, and obviously they didn’t like scooter riders in the park, they approached and forcibly pulled riders to the rest of the chantrap, where they began to more intelligibly explain that they behaved disgustingly, and that it was impossible to ride vehicles in the park. But the brave, scrawny "radishes" got into trouble. As a result, they, along with scooters, were taken outside the park. It was carried out by feet and hands. No, there was no reckless beating, everything was in moderation and with meaning ...
          To be honest, I was surprised ... Although not so long ago I was the same, I drank beer with friends in the park, looked like, but we still behaved with dignity: we did not litter, did not stir, did not limit ...
          Z.Y. most importantly, all this time, Cossack squads, or rather mummers (men of about my age and of different nationalities, from my school, who were "horses", walked through the park ... They got to power, and as they were cowardly and sixes, they remained. ) So they, with all their greatness, bypassed all these movements and observed from far away ...
          Conclusion: a lot depends on us people ... People ...
      2. Egen
        Egen 27 May 2013 08: 15 New
        19
        Such should be dealt with by 1) court regarding compliance with the laws of the Russian Federation and further 2) Duma, prosecutor's office, etc. with the insufficiency of these laws.
        It’s been clear for a long time that our authorities are inactive, therefore there is no point talking about this.
        But there are people "upstairs" who like "root" for the cause. Why is the air shaking? Indeed, Denis remembered well - why not renew and put in the Duma a law on DND? It was a good thing, I think now many would take to the streets in the evenings, at least in defense of schoolchildren. Yes, I agree, there is little sense against organized crime, but if there are a lot of all of them, they will know that they can run into the patrol with civilian weapons, at least they will think about it. Part, I agree, will switch to "covert actions", but this will already be the ward of the police, but after all, some part will come to their senses! This is already +. The second "+" is the rallying of society.
        So, no one has thoughts (or knowledge / experience), how to implement DND?
        1. 3 inches.
          3 inches. 27 May 2013 08: 48 New
          33
          court, of course, it is right and good ... but what could those who were close by face do not give? This is the court and the unity of society.
          1. sergo0000
            sergo0000 27 May 2013 09: 13 New
            13
            Quote: 3 inches.
            court, of course, it is right and good ... but what could those who were close by face do not give? This is the court and the unity of society.

            I thought that if I had a registered short-barrel at that moment in time, I would have kept myself so as not to shoot these
            reptiles right there! And on the other hand, if these scum knew that people might have legal weapons and someone might not flinch their hands at the sight of this indecency and blasphemy, they would risk their health and rotten souls !? am Maybe there are forces in the State Duma blocking this law on weapons in order to continue to allow such scum to do their own black deeds! But the war is in full swing replacing our values!
            1. 3 inches.
              3 inches. 27 May 2013 09: 37 New
              15
              the short-barrels are inappropriately given as normal plus martyrs will be made of them. but flogged publicly in the same place, I think that there are extenuating circumstances and so forth. Well, let's say kindled with righteous anger and so on. and tpda and the lesson is not bad. It's one thing to portray a victim of all kinds of repressions; another thing is to be publicly disgraced. When meeting a freak, the main thing is not to get confused, the main thing is to laugh at it! There is such a group of kharcho soup and a song about freaks. On the tube, find it will cheer you up.
              1. stroporez
                stroporez 27 May 2013 10: 50 New
                +2
                Quote: 3 inches.
                they will give as normal plus martyrs will make of them.

                I agree, they will also raise a howl about that "Russian fascism" is blooming
                1. astra
                  astra 27 May 2013 11: 12 New
                  +6
                  One gets the impression that Russian citizens are systematically and methodically trying to accustom themselves to treating abomination with outright indifference.

                  Of course, the action is planned under the guise of fighting AIDS. Recently, there has been so much mockery: desecrated monuments, cemeteries, churches, etc. How much can you endure ?! This can only be dealt with with harsh measures - you need to adopt a harsher law for defilers, - defiled shrines get 5 years without a pardon with a fine of thousands at 100, you can’t pay? - confiscation of property for this amount. Only tough measures will help fight this evil. In general, laws need to be tightened and enforced, and if they are not enforced, they will pay off until the people begin to organize unrest. Then not their money, nor their situation will help them, they themselves will regret that they did not go to prison.
                  1. Denis
                    Denis 27 May 2013 11: 51 New
                    +8
                    Quote: astra
                    under the guise of fighting AIDS.
                    Only those who deserve AIDS now
                    Accidental infections in the past. Donor blood is checked five times and reusable syringes are only in the museum, well, but rubber is not sold in the bookstore
                    1. Ruslan67
                      Ruslan67 28 May 2013 05: 08 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Denis
                      but the rubber is only in the bookstore just do not sell

                      Sell ​​at the checkout laughing And in large stores they can give it for free - if you haven’t bought anything wassat
                      1. Denis
                        Denis 28 May 2013 06: 26 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        give - if you haven’t bought anything
                        Yes ... as thin as a hint
            2. deZerTigR
              deZerTigR 27 May 2013 11: 54 New
              +4
              Quote: sergo0000
              if these scum knew that people could have legal weapons


              And what will happen if the weapons turn out to be scum did not think?
              1. 3 inches.
                3 inches. 27 May 2013 11: 56 New
                +1
                sometimes a man faces a choice. You can still take a papiros. and you will have to give up life.
              2. Setrac
                Setrac 27 May 2013 13: 03 New
                +5
                Quote: deZerTigR
                And what will happen if the weapons turn out to be scum did not think?

                The scum has weapons, for that they are scum, so that they do not care about the law.
              3. Denis
                Denis 27 May 2013 13: 08 New
                +2
                Quote: deZerTigR
                And what will happen if the weapons turn out to be scum did not think?
                Can these glamorous ones hold him in his hands? This is not a member
                Yes, and from the shot
              4. sanych
                sanych 27 May 2013 19: 46 New
                +3
                Even if the scum has weapons, they will not be able to use it. Such actions are followed by moral idiots with a shitty and cowardly little soul. They are not capable of ACTION.
            3. evfrat
              evfrat 27 May 2013 17: 29 New
              +4
              it is necessary to educate the next generation normally, and not to shoot everyone in a row between the battle for the metal and the mortgage.
              1. DS22
                DS22 28 May 2013 03: 25 New
                +3
                You say you need to educate? Well, you will educate, I will educate, like-minded people will educate us ..... And the bulk of our population - "put", and even with the appliance. In my opinion, the problem of indifference should be comprehensively approached, and the consequences should not be fought until you lose consciousness! You should not rely on our power, there are no decent people, there are many decent pigs! And DND will not solve the problem either. Everything in the complex should be: in the family, and at school, and in the workplace, and at the top.
            4. yak69
              yak69 27 May 2013 22: 18 New
              +3
              Quote: sergo0000
              I just thought that if I had a registered short-barrel at that time, I would have kept myself so as not to shoot these reptiles right there!

              As if already got all this tolerance, the essence of which is Ped Pedagogy! Calls for tolerance and tolerance are quietly making a submissive flock of us. It's time to give a decisive rebuff to this evil! The fight must be given lightning fast, tough and merciless. Tolerance and tolerance is a way to fool us all. Many times already wrote that the most important weapon of the world behind the scenes is CHANGE AND GRADUITY. Today we are called for tolerance for manifestations of mockery of the memory of the people, tomorrow for respect for the choice of all kinds of trash like LGBT, etc. The goal and outcome of these actions is the same - to change our minds, change our values, deceive us and put us all in a ra *!
              Be vigilant, comrades. Do not pass by such tricks, suppress them by all available means (of which, "IN EAR" is the most innocent!).
              1. Genady1976
                Genady1976 27 May 2013 22: 35 New
                +2
                So specially invented ent
            5. Sashka
              Sashka 29 May 2013 19: 43 New
              0
              And you did not think that these imbeciles could also have registered weapons, which would allow them to think about their safety?!?! And what is the result?!?!?! SLAUGHTER !!!!!! No weapon is not an option! Citizenship in this case, the very thing !!!!!! They would have given the surrounding cradles to this abnormal, henceforth, this would not have been repeated !!!!
              Yours!
          2. Sinbad
            Sinbad 27 May 2013 10: 46 New
            13
            According to the face? So they’ll put him in prison! We have already been taught that it’s against the law to defend against a killer.
            1. 3 inches.
              3 inches. 27 May 2013 10: 54 New
              +7
              so it is necessary to give it wisely. not shouting pee ..ov.a loudly declaring the desecration of monuments. Is there a article? As a law-abiding citizen, I could not pass by the violation and tried to prevent it. By the way, this is called a civil duty.
              1. ded10041948
                ded10041948 27 May 2013 12: 03 New
                +8
                You try to explain it to the police when the flippers are wrapped. By the way, where were the above-mentioned parasites when all this happened?
                1. 3 inches.
                  3 inches. 27 May 2013 12: 06 New
                  0
                  and what is there to explain to them? Their business is to deliver all the participants to the okolotok. But there you will write and explain. It is unlikely that they will be very picky to you, most likely they will add a truncheon to the noise.
              2. valerii41
                valerii41 27 May 2013 22: 49 New
                +2
                You will interfere for 7 years for hooliganism, according to the pederastical constitution, the howl of Gozman Udaltsov and other similar shusher will raise them. We do not have a Criminal Code where decency would be said about the honor and dignity.
            2. astra
              astra 27 May 2013 11: 18 New
              +3
              Quote: Sinbad
              According to the face? So they’ll put him in prison! We have already been taught that it’s against the law to defend against a killer.

              Here, after such desecration events, you voluntarily unwittingly respect the Sharia courts for a little while: stole - remained without a hand, guilty with petty dirty tricks - they carved in public. I am sure that such extreme measures serve as a good prevention to prevent further violations. And we need to punish harder and create conditions for the inevitability of punishment.
              1. 3 inches.
                3 inches. 27 May 2013 11: 21 New
                -2
                It’s not worth it. It’s also not so pink. It depends on who it is stolen from and who stole it. It used to be like that before, they steal it anyway.
          3. Zheka Varangian
            Zheka Varangian 27 May 2013 13: 46 New
            +2
            I completely agree that in Tolyatti there were no 5-10 strong men to stop this blasphemy and tapping on their "universal values"? The actions of these holes cause hatred throughout Russia and the CIS and everywhere they go ... they spend them again and they are again .. dyat! Damn, are they immortal? To drive this scum from the country to Geyropa they welcome such people there!
          4. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 27 May 2013 18: 39 New
            +2
            Quote: 3 inches.
            about that those who were close by their faces could not give

            Then they would be planted, because to beat the poor
            But in general there is an article "Outrage at the Monuments" why not apply?
          5. cumastra1
            cumastra1 27 May 2013 19: 07 New
            +3
            horror, I just can’t believe it. In the years of my youth, they gave some boobies for 10 years to tear off the flag of the USSR. And in my opinion they did it right. Yes, and would not allow it. There was always a guard at the Eternal Flame, whoever came to the Eternal Flame never spoke loudly - only in an undertone. And what can I say - the veterans were still in power, they would have torn the bastards like a hot-water bottle.
        2. Sinbad
          Sinbad 27 May 2013 10: 44 New
          +6
          There are “untouchables,” and abuse must be seen as the most serious crime. Power is weak, and it’s not power, but a flock of power-hungry people, with saliva dripping from greed. Do shrines to them. Look, the president "pulls" the deputies - "people's representatives" from the next anti-people law. Only questions of theirs, the “chosen ones” of prosperity, are quickly resolved. The division of society into an elite and a herd continues, with virtually no middle class, which is the basis of the state and fills the gap between the richest and poorest. In addition, there is (in deeds) a pro-Western and pro-American orientation of many in power, and this is a clear betrayal of the interests of Russia. So we reap the "fruits" of this.
        3. Nickanor
          Nickanor 27 May 2013 10: 59 New
          +1
          All such phenomena, such as the one described here, the case of a nerd karate who lifts his legs against the backdrop of monuments to heroes and the like, are the results of rampant illiteracy and immorality in modern society. There is no elementary education, 2-3 lessons are taught in schools on the history of the Second World War, not-so-distant parents are not able to explain what is good and what is bad to future morons. The worst thing is, these people themselves don’t know what they are doing (I don’t take into account conscious vandalism and abuse, this is a separate issue) - they did not teach wimps at the time, which is SO IMPOSSIBLE. Fish rots from the head, unfortunately.
          1. deZerTigR
            deZerTigR 27 May 2013 11: 55 New
            0
            Quote: Nickanor
            there are the results of total illiteracy and immorality in modern society. There is no elementary upbringing, 2-3 lessons are given in the lessons of the history of the Second World War in schools, near-by parents are not able to explain to children-future morons what is good and what is bad

            + 100500
        4. vjatsergey
          vjatsergey 27 May 2013 13: 43 New
          +2
          Most likely, the authorities will be against the DND, because this is already some kind of organization, and the authorities will not allow public organization.
        5. zavesa01
          zavesa01 30 May 2013 15: 11 New
          +1
          The people must deal with them, the people. So that the tv.r knew she would receive according to the soup right away as soon as she began to commit atrocities. Court, etc. must defend the person who has stopped the lawlessness. And the only way to stop this unbridled bydlo.lo.
      3. Romn
        Romn 27 May 2013 08: 36 New
        +6
        Dumb premature animals, these creatures have no brains and never will. Hang them in public, along with guns and moral freaks like them!
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 27 May 2013 13: 08 New
          +3
          Quote: Romn
          Dumb premature animals, these creatures have no brains and never will. Hang them in public, along with guns and moral freaks like them!

          Do you think they do it out of stupidity and stupidity? NO!!! They did it consciously, they are our ENEMIES, they must be deported from the country without the right to rehabilitation (without the right to return).
    2. evgenii67
      evgenii67 27 May 2013 09: 14 New
      +4
      Hello everyone!
      Quote: aszzz888
      Ur.dy, deficiencies, su.i, scum and tv.ry

      These "AIDS fighters" had to be fed right there with these contraceptives and foams to drive away so that their phobia would develop, in which they would bypass monuments per kilometer.
    3. w.ebdo.g
      w.ebdo.g 27 May 2013 09: 29 New
      +2
      that's how they celebrated city day in St. Petersburg!
    4. Ribwort
      Ribwort 27 May 2013 09: 30 New
      +9
      Quote: aszzz888
      Punish them the Righteous God!

      Recently, an action was launched to collect signatures for depriving M.S. Gorbachev of the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called. I posted a link to this site in a group in Odnoklassniki. Want to know the result?
      One of the comments: “Alas, it's late. They don’t wave their fists after the fight.”
      My arguments that, following this logic, it is necessary to release all murderers, rapists, and thieves from prisons, because the crimes are ALREADY committed, have remained unanswered. Or:
      "God be his judge." Briefly and clearly. And in accordance with religious canons. But now I don’t think that if the crime were committed against this particular person or his family, he would refuse to write a statement to the police, trusting only in God's judgment.
      Yes, why am I? And the fact that trusting in God's judgment is the destiny of disenfranchised slaves! Nothing else is left for them. The church is calling us to this, and the people who wrote the comments I voiced above are a typical product of religious brainwashing.
      No need to wait until God bothers to punish those referred to in the article - you will wait all your life. It is necessary to bring to criminal, administrative, any other responsibility (face in the end to fill), but not wait, it is not clear what and for how long.
      1. Curculum
        Curculum 27 May 2013 11: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: Ribwort
        No need to wait until God bothers to punish those referred to in the article - you will wait all your life. It is necessary to bring to criminal, administrative, any other responsibility (face in the end to fill), but not wait, it is not clear what and for how long.

        + I’ll add from myself: waf.it and piz.it, the only ones like this will understand something.
    5. Grey74
      Grey74 27 May 2013 09: 51 New
      0
      Well no ! not they (although they too) but those who are more concerned with the enslavement of the feelings of believers, but to the feelings of everyone else (including many believers who are still thinking about something) to them as Russian to the Tatar-Mongol horde, AS US!
    6. Bykov.
      Bykov. 27 May 2013 10: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      ... Punish them the Righteous God! ...

      They, in my opinion, did not punish themselves badly ... these organizers have a clear syndrome ... a syndrome of acquired deficiency of conscience.
      They certainly won’t get sympathy and understanding, and we realized that, thank God, we are very indifferent to the history of our Motherland, and it pleases a lot ...
    7. avt
      avt 27 May 2013 10: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: aszzz888
      Punish them the Righteous God!

      Wait too long! negative To the count of nits !! Yes, then the court will be!? Or are they doing it in silence ???
      1. Denis
        Denis 27 May 2013 10: 38 New
        +4
        Quote: avt
        To the count of nits !!
        Moreover, they are familiar, pedril martyrs
      2. Vladimir_61
        Vladimir_61 27 May 2013 11: 44 New
        +3
        Quote: avt
        Wait too long!

        Not for long. With increasing indignation, the policy pursued, whatever it may concern, is short-lived. A strange reaction from lawmakers and law enforcement officers. After all, the case is not the first. Indulge? Indifferent? About the participants of the "action" it must be said: degenerate. We share sharper and sharper. And, when the dividing line is clearly indicated, all who are usually called the fifth column are reaped in full measure. Including the furious anger of the people. When it comes to preserving the country, decisive action is justified. We will leave slobbery political correctness to hypocrites and traitors.
    8. pensioner
      pensioner 27 May 2013 10: 11 New
      +5
      Ready to help to the best of all the Most High. I can. Till. And trying ...
      1. 3 inches.
        3 inches. 27 May 2013 10: 16 New
        +4
        this is right. and then the God of deeds is already full. how many sinners have bred.
      2. KuigoroZHIK
        KuigoroZHIK 27 May 2013 10: 36 New
        +4
        you are not alone in your desire to help these scum to meet the Almighty.
      3. soaring
        soaring 27 May 2013 11: 15 New
        +2
        senior citizen welcome you!
        It is unfortunate that these freaks cannot be smashed by an infected needle or fucked by a person who has HIV !!! Maybe then they would have danced differently! And if he is sick, then no one pulled you to sit on a needle or change sexual partners, like gloves! We are to blame for ourselves and do not equate your licentiousness with the EXPLOIT OF OUR GRANDFATES !!!! I am for what would give these subhuman real time and more !!!
        1. 3 inches.
          3 inches. 27 May 2013 11: 18 New
          +1
          you can’t give them a term. Then all sorts of geyrops will wind up nerves. It’s obvious that actions are being carried out for this. We must humiliate and ridicule in public, then they will beware of them.
          1. cerko
            cerko 27 May 2013 13: 04 New
            +1
            let them wind up, let them see that we have our own concept of justice and holiness and the whole world should reckon with this
    9. Bezarius
      Bezarius 27 May 2013 11: 42 New
      0
      Or maybe they really set foot ... Or am I too naive?
      1. 3 inches.
        3 inches. 27 May 2013 11: 45 New
        0
        No, it’s just obvious. Never act as your enemy wants it from you. By doing the obvious, you help him.
    10. Siberian German
      Siberian German 27 May 2013 13: 21 New
      +1
      take a and singe a muzzle on a sacred fire and that’s it - decontamination has passed
    11. Zheka Varangian
      Zheka Varangian 27 May 2013 14: 44 New
      +8
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/461/ftpj766.jpeg
    12. evfrat
      evfrat 27 May 2013 17: 27 New
      +3
      After all, someone gave birth to them, raised them ... Maybe it’s worth talking about parents? Who are these people born apparently in the USSR? How much do they themselves love their homeland, that their children do this and do not understand what they are doing? It means they did not instill respect for the Fatherland, the feat of grandfathers. We love to scold children, but in my opinion we should ask our parents ...
    13. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 28 May 2013 12: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      Punish them the Righteous God!

      Gentlemen, I completely agree, but it’s only better - "Hope for God, and tie the horse."

      Option number one is to put CCTV cameras to prevent immoral acts against monuments and other national heritage and cultural achievements. After either a large fine, or work for the good of the city broadcasting on the central channel people working in such a detachment (following the example of Singapore). (By the way, this is the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, Article 213).

      Option number two - article 115 part 2b. But satisfaction shines.

      Understanding that everyone does not allow physical data, but in the modern world there is at least a mobile phone - I removed all this and a helmet to the police and the prosecutor’s office. So and so they say, citizens violate, take action.
      That's all. The first one to fight for their rights, freedoms and respect for the law is the citizen himself. The court is just a means to this.
  2. Denis
    Denis 27 May 2013 07: 16 New
    13
    Here are the wretched!
    Send them to monkey monkeys, they will become famous there as they dreamed
    The pedrils are advancing ...
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 27 May 2013 07: 44 New
      23
      Nothing sacred was left ... Yes, they became free. Free from morality, honor, respect for others and history. Tomorrow they will already copulate in public places, in front of others, and they will bring us to court "for holding in personal life "
      1. Vladimir_61
        Vladimir_61 27 May 2013 11: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: xetai9977
        .Yes, they have become free. Free from morality, honor, respect for others and for history.

        And at the same time, the miserable slaves of their vices. Moreover, not realizing the horror of his situation. Offensive mental, source of infection.
      2. lapis lazuli
        lapis lazuli 28 May 2013 04: 11 New
        +1
        Quote: xetai9977
        Yes they became free
        would become free from the law so that they would not protect
        and crush then
      3. alitet
        alitet 29 May 2013 15: 44 New
        0
        Dear xetai9977. Let them copulate. This is not holy for them. They are few, there are many of us. They do not breed. We love and give birth. Normal dads and girls.
    2. omsbon
      omsbon 27 May 2013 09: 35 New
      +9
      From the incident, I make the only conclusion:
      DO NOT PASS MEMBRIDGE AND REMAIN INDIVIDUAL!
      To beat, to drive without fear of consequences, otherwise the fate of geyropa awaits us.
      1. Lighting
        Lighting 27 May 2013 09: 38 New
        0
        Quote: omsbon
        We are waiting for the fate of geyropov

        A successful country with an advanced army? To want.
  3. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 27 May 2013 07: 20 New
    16
    I just don’t understand why passers-by calmly looked at it? Really, not a single normal person was found to throw these goblins from the memorial?
    1. Horn
      Horn 27 May 2013 08: 12 New
      16
      Everybody poker. And for a long time. "And what to protest, nothing depends on you anyway." We were accustomed to this thought: “Vote, don’t vote, you’ll get anyway ...”, We held a referendum - contrary to the opinion of the people, the USSR was destroyed ... examples are darkness. Moreover, these small groups are sick with something, whether buggers, sectarians, are united by a common ailment or inferiority. They flock in a flock to bite those who are not "their color." So, apart from spitting and a hysterical screech, anyone would not get indignant.
      It is necessary to unite. To create "Spartak detachments", interest clubs, and gradually introduce the political component in these associations.
    2. Denis
      Denis 27 May 2013 08: 24 New
      23
      -gay parade with water cannons dispersed
      -with water cannons !?
      -What is it with your hands or something?
    3. Fox
      Fox 27 May 2013 09: 04 New
      +6
      Quote: Vladimirets
      why passers-by calmly looked at it

      Yes, the place is not very crowded. Nobody walks there, there’s no shadow, one asphalt. They didn’t do that in the Avtozavodsky district, there are a lot of people there, they will quickly turn their faces into minced meat. Yes, and as always, the representative of "Eat Russia" harnessed for homosexuals .
      1. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 27 May 2013 11: 40 New
        +5
        In Yekaterinburg in 2006 on Weiner Street (an analogue of Moscow Arbat), two “cocks” made a public imitation of sexual intercourse (!) with all the bells and whistles (undressing, imitation of a blowjob), a crowd gathered around everyone, giggling, cheering, taking pictures on cell phones. No one came out on a turnip did not bangEveryone was just happy about this "show." The police arrived, they took me to the police station, they said "ay-ya-yay", they wrote 500 rubles each. they released the fine in peace ..... And you say a poorly populated place ... Coordination methods are needed here so that these nonhumans urinate themselves for the rest of their lives, otherwise, apparently, not like .... They don’t understand simple exhortations .. ..
        1. Denis
          Denis 27 May 2013 11: 55 New
          +2
          Quote: EwgenyZ
          wrote on 500 rub. fined and released in peace
          In vain, they would close it for 15 days and everyone would have fun
          And where Novikov looks, he is very strict towards such
    4. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 27 May 2013 09: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: Vladimirets
      I just don’t understand why passers-by calmly looked at it?

      But this is the most important question on the topic. Permissiveness from the indifference of others. The majority of society is cowardly loners living nearby, covering up their cowardice, supposedly indifference.
      1. V. Salama
        V. Salama 27 May 2013 12: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Vrungel78
        Permissiveness from the indifference of others.

        And indifference from what? "... this is the main question on the topic." According to the Americans, they also reformed our judicial system. The court is not obliged to establish the truth now. And according to the law, I don’t have the right to touch either a shit .. on the street or a presumptuous bureaucrat with my finger. If we act in good faith in such situations, then this is already a "competition" to the security forces, the investigation, the prosecutor's office, and this is a special painful approach. In short, you have to go underground underground. From the head the fish rots, however, they clean it from the tail.
    5. Anat1974
      Anat1974 27 May 2013 12: 42 New
      +1
      Question 2, how did local governments resolve this action?
  4. Belogor
    Belogor 27 May 2013 07: 20 New
    +3
    A strange position in the local government. Or do they have the same attitude to the past of Russia as these freaks?
    1. Garysit
      Garysit 27 May 2013 10: 18 New
      +1
      But is it only the local government ??? This is the attitude of all the authorities, it is like the Jesuits say one thing, think another, do the third ....
  5. DEDUCHKA
    DEDUCHKA 27 May 2013 07: 20 New
    +3
    These people can no longer be called idiots.
    1. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 27 May 2013 09: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: DEDUCHKA
      These people can no longer be called idiots.

      You are too tolerant, my friend. This is pid @ ry.
    2. Garrin
      Garrin 27 May 2013 12: 21 New
      0
      Quote: DEDUCHKA
      These people can no longer be called idiots.

      As much as possible. Only moderators will not miss.
  6. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 27 May 2013 07: 20 New
    14
    here is a good example of the lack of a patriotic education program, which in my opinion should be started from kindergarten.
    1. Masterzserg
      Masterzserg 27 May 2013 07: 32 New
      +8
      Educate not educate, but as the hero Gaydaevsky said, "If a person goes away, then this will be a long time."
  7. Borat
    Borat 27 May 2013 07: 25 New
    25
    I am tormented by another question: why did this "action" not end in a massacre? Where were the normal people? Did a dirty trick - get in the face! And to discuss all this in the media and wait for the decision of the officials - somehow it is in European or something ...
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 27 May 2013 07: 49 New
      +3
      Quote: Borat
      And to discuss all this in the media and wait for the decision of the officials - somehow it is in European or something ...

      This is tolerant ...
    2. Manager
      Manager 27 May 2013 09: 25 New
      +5
      Quote: Borat
      I am tormented by another question: why did this "action" not end in a massacre? Where were the normal people? Did a dirty trick - get in the face! And to discuss all this in the media and wait for the decision of the officials - somehow it is in European or something ...

      In our moronic state, if you smack your face with a bully, they will punish you and not that bastard.
  8. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 27 May 2013 07: 28 New
    +8
    Behind the bars of these stupid provocateurs. At least for a year. It is time to restore ITL, apparently. Especially for such abominations.
    1. Straus_zloy
      Straus_zloy 27 May 2013 09: 09 New
      +4
      it’s better to negotiate with the DPRK and hand them over for a couple of years ditches to dig for a cup of rice per day, you can’t come up with a better ITL
  9. Onotollah
    Onotollah 27 May 2013 07: 29 New
    +7
    Free Advice for Future April Fools:
    Next time, the activists should put condoms on their heads and thus portray the word, enlighten the citizens. Moreover, as the author absolutely noted, in the forecourt.
    And as I personally note, this form of April activists will accurately reflect their purulent content.
    The money saved from paying me the copyright award (since the advice is free) condom activists can use to buy patches and threads for themselves and their uniforms.
    1. vilenich
      vilenich 27 May 2013 07: 59 New
      +9
      Quote: Onotolle
      Free Advice for Future April Fools:

      You can still advise holding a similar action on August 2 at the gathering place of the paratroopers!
      1. soaring
        soaring 27 May 2013 11: 23 New
        +2
        vilenich- but that would be cool !!!!!!!!
        I would like to see what remains of these moral monsters when the guys in vests are offended ....
  10. Masterzserg
    Masterzserg 27 May 2013 07: 29 New
    +9
    What can I say, nerds. And if they are fined, then Paul McCartney will write an angry letter to the “bloody” Putin, so that such a severe punishment for good action would be canceled. This is a new scheme among the provocateurs, it seems to be an action for the good, but with a double bottom, which would then blow around the world about tyranny in the Russian Federation.
    1. soaring
      soaring 27 May 2013 11: 28 New
      +2
      Masterzserg
      Thank God I’m not a Beatleman and I don’t care about the opinion of a foreign macaquacad .... let them issue manifests there, when in broad daylight they cut soldiers' heads and shoot them on video .... if he’s so tolerant, then let him will be tolerast- but on his island !!!
      1. Masterzserg
        Masterzserg 27 May 2013 13: 56 New
        +2
        And this he is not writing letters for us, and not even for Putin, everyone in Russia should .. in his opinion, almost. He will not find Russia on the map))) This is for the demonization of the Russian Federation, or rather the Russian authorities in the eyes of the world community.
  11. tank64rus
    tank64rus 27 May 2013 07: 31 New
    +4
    If the authorities do not understand the provocation, then normal people are clear. They are in jail for a couple of days. There they will quickly be explained that it is not worth mocking at the fallen soldiers. In general, these are provocateurs.
  12. Rustiger
    Rustiger 27 May 2013 07: 38 New
    27
    I foresee how now the "indignant mind" will boil "the forum visitors and begin the" exercises in honing wit "in relation to these podkudniki-sodomites.
    But this is a sign of a general decline in the morals of the whole society. From the release of dubious films to comic books on the theme of the Second World War. After all, these gangderers were not brought to us from the moon, they walk among us, studied at our schools, watch the same television viewer that we all rub our fantasies through the same tyrnet. Therefore, nothing can be solved by “criminal administrative measures” alone. For 25 years a whole generation has been lost. But these are only "flowers", "berries" will appear chuy later. This will be what we still cannot imagine.
    You need to start from scratch. From the government’s policy of controlling the release of "children's" books with damn pictures to harsh penalties for the slightest hint of so-called "unconventional values" by inhaling into the heads of children different-sized "smarties."
    1. Masterzserg
      Masterzserg 27 May 2013 07: 51 New
      +8
      Quote: Rustiger
      But this is a sign of a general decline in the morals of the whole society.

      Quote: Rustiger
      they walk among us, studied at our schools, watch the same TV viewer that we all grind our fantasies through the same tyrnet


      This is a sign that people who invent stocks with their cunning brain work on purpose, and young people who have nothing to do and other unemployed, aimless trash is being fooled by false ideas in order to catch the meaning of life. They have already reached the point that they themselves invent something against which they then protest, like "Well, wait a minute!" or "Stomp cats". If all sorts of NGOs and other "charitable" organizations are thrown out, then these dumbheads will be led to something else, who will have a clever skull box.
      Quote: Rustiger
      Therefore, nothing can be solved by “criminal administrative measures” alone.
      Yes, it will be decided. All sorts of whore-heels like the femen do not bother us, they are afraid of settling. Plant these freaks and everything will be buzzing. One thing is, the stench from the west will go, all sorts of madonnas with the madonas will begin to write letters and create other crap.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 27 May 2013 08: 49 New
        +5
        Quote: Masterzserg
        This is a sign that people who come up with stocks

        And what is this "ANO SPN" in general? Who is sponsoring this project? And the fact that purposefully destroying the memory and real moral values ​​of the young generation is beyond doubt.
        Are you surprised that people were indifferent? So try to intervene - they will make you guilty. After all, the action was officially authorized and the venue approved! And you will go "for 15 days", but not those who carried out the action! Until people are sure that for the protection of the Eternal Fire they will not be made scapegoats, they will pass by.
      2. soaring
        soaring 27 May 2013 11: 36 New
        0
        I agree!!! 100%
    2. soaring
      soaring 27 May 2013 11: 33 New
      +2
      Rustaiger, here I completely agree with you !!! Starting from scratch is very difficult and hard! But if you don’t start now, it will be too late soon! So where is our government, our main people of the state? Or is everyone looking for how and to whom is it more profitable to sell oil and gas !? And they, apparently, are not at all interested in what is happening in society and in the country as a whole !!! ???
  13. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 27 May 2013 07: 43 New
    +8
    Of course, it is logical ... But if so, then why would the activists of the “April Project” not hold the same action, for example, in the station toilet, because there one day more people pass than the area ... The guys have not finished ...

    Correctly . At the monument to the fallen heroes, you can conduct actions only in memory to heroes, even if not WWII, but Afghanistan, Chechnya, etc. But not in the memory of drug addicts, homosexuals and prostitutes, who for the most part are AIDS victims. I will not argue that among HIV patients there are many normal people who have become ill by chance or because of someone carelessness. But they do not belong to the category of heroes.
  14. treskoed
    treskoed 27 May 2013 07: 57 New
    +1
    One gets the impression that Russian citizens are systematically and methodically trying to accustom themselves to treating abomination with outright indifference.

    Particularly strong impression after watching TV!
  15. 416sd
    416sd 27 May 2013 08: 02 New
    13
    Sometimes I think - could I kill a person not from a distance with a shot, but looking into my eyes with edged weapons, or beat him to death.

    Reading this I understand - there are cases when I could.
    1. UFO
      UFO 27 May 2013 08: 05 New
      +3
      And nothing more needs to be added. good
    2. Manager
      Manager 27 May 2013 12: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: 416sd
      Reading this I understand - there are cases when I could.


      To kill is overkill. It’s obligatory to rattle the brains. So that they fall into place (brains). But then again, these brains will be rolled over you, and you’ll become guilty yourself and you will not sit for 3 years for harming your health, or even for robbery in general ........... Be careful. Our country has hurt "Fair" has become.
    3. ded10041948
      ded10041948 27 May 2013 12: 23 New
      +3
      HUMAN - hardly! Education and moral principles will not allow. And such scum - not with a trembling hand. And then let them judge. At the same time, everyone will see who is who in this state. By the way! And which ... allowed this provocation against the memory of popular and human morality? Conscience enough to assess the level of their own moronity?
      1. 3 inches.
        3 inches. 27 May 2013 17: 55 New
        +2
        Now this is the right thought. We need to find out which of the bureaucrats allowed it, and here it’s face and publish it. The Togliatti City Hall probably has an offsite, so you need to send a request.
    4. The comment was deleted.
  16. ImPerts
    ImPerts 27 May 2013 08: 06 New
    +4
    Unfortunately...
    Comment on Article 214 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation
    1. The commented article provides liability for two types of attacks:
    a) desecration of buildings or other structures;
    b) damage to property in public transport or in other public places.
    2. Desecration is expressed by various actions leading to disfigurement of public buildings and structures.
    Such actions may include: applying obscene images and inscriptions, sticking up posters, reproductions, photographs of immoral content, staining with paints, oil products, sewage, disfiguring and damage to historical and cultural monuments, socially significant buildings and structures.
    Desecration can also consist in mockery of generally accepted spiritual and historical values ​​(placing fascist symbols or Nazi slogans in places related to the struggle against fascism; drawing images and inscriptions that offend the feelings of believers in religious buildings and structures, etc.).
    The actions to apply inscriptions, drawings and other images that do not offend public morality do not constitute a crime (commercial advertising, informational messages, political or religious propaganda, drawings and inscriptions that do not have immoral content, etc.).
    It also does not constitute a crime if inscriptions and images are applied, although it violates moral standards, but is not designed for a significant public reaction (writing easily removable individual obscene words, placing immoral images in inaccessible or uninhabited places). In these cases, depending on the nature of the deed, financial or administrative liability may arise.
    3. In terms of purpose and character, vandalism is similar to abuse of the burial places of the dead. Therefore, the desecration of grave structures is qualified according to Art. 244 UK
    4. Structures are built by people immovable objects that are in collective or individual use - stadiums, bridges, fences, viaducts and others. The desecration of movable property, without damaging it, as well as natural objects of a crime under the commented article, does not form.
    5. Damage to property consists in bringing it into complete or partial unsuitability. According to the commented article, liability arises for damage to property intended for public use, regardless of the form of ownership.
    Methods of damage can be different: applying mechanical damage, coating with dyes or adhesives, pouring with sewage, etc.
    6. Vandalism involving intentional destruction or damage to property on a large scale or with significant damage is qualified by the aggregate of the commented article and Art. 167 UK
    7. Subject of crime - a person who has reached the age of 14.
    8. Vandalism is committed with direct intent. His motives, as a rule, are similar to hooligan ones: disrespect for society, mischief, neglect of public interests.
    Vandalism can also be combined with mercenary motives when, for the sake of illegal acquisition of insignificant property, significant damage is caused to the public interest (for example, a part of the theater curtain is cut off, the leather substitute is cut off from seats in public transport, parts from electrical appliances, electronic devices are stolen, as a result of which they exit system). Such actions may qualify in conjunction with property crimes.
    ...............................
    Only beat the muzzle. At the monument, during detention, in the monkey. Throw the idea to the committee of veterans, let them walk around with a cane. The judge’s hand doesn’t rise to condemn the veteran, he will let go of the courtroom.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 27 May 2013 08: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: ImPerts
      Only beat the muzzle. At the monument, during detention, in the monkey. Throw the idea to the committee of veterans, let them walk around with a cane. The judge’s hand doesn’t rise to condemn the veteran, he will let go of the courtroom.

      The age of veterans, unfortunately, starts at 20. So you can not only cane. And the provincial police will turn away when necessary. There are many veterans among them. This is Moscow intimidated
    2. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 27 May 2013 09: 59 New
      +3
      Quote: ImPerts
      The judge’s hand doesn’t rise to condemn the veteran, he will let go of the courtroom.

      Unfortunately will rise. Any judge is afraid to set a precedent.
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    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 27 May 2013 08: 54 New
      +5
      Quote: tttttt
      They scattered all the buffoons and clowns on TV who "have their own opinion"

      The most interesting thing is that these buffoons screech loudest about the lack of democracy. And democracy in general is the power of the majority, which does not support these screechers. The problem, however ..
  18. Dima190579
    Dima190579 27 May 2013 08: 24 New
    +2
    One who mocks at his memory. This form of life has no future.
  19. individual
    individual 27 May 2013 08: 46 New
    +4
    Just now they considered the difference between a patriot and a liberalist.
    There is a significant addition.
    I’m on my father’s monument
    red carnations
    ,
    and liberals bring their ancestors.
  20. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2013 08: 48 New
    +4
    we need to revive the tradition when the most worthy teenagers stood in the Guard of Honor of Fire, for us it was an honor and the idea that it was possible to commit indecentness did not even arise
  21. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2013 08: 51 New
    +7
    and it would not be bad to voice the names and post pictures of ushlepok
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 27 May 2013 11: 51 New
      0
      You can find this shushary on the Internet, on VKontakte there is their page.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2013 14: 32 New
        +1
        they are not "VKontakte" but on the pages of central newspapers, and even parents there, under the heading of the shame of the country.
        classmates, neighbors, colleagues should know their faces, they should be recognized on the bus and spit in the face
        1. 3 inches.
          3 inches. 27 May 2013 17: 56 New
          0
          this is what I’m thinking about and leading. They are ready to beat the muzzle, but there is no general defamation. Yes, and the influx of recruits will decrease.
      2. ivan.zwetkoff
        ivan.zwetkoff 31 May 2013 14: 41 New
        +1
        I wrote about zero reaction to these tricks in contact with the “tsarist administration”, they sent me a reply: They said that the petition was wrong and in the wrong form ..... draw conclusions who steers in the country.
  22. Combitor
    Combitor 27 May 2013 08: 54 New
    10
    In the country that suffered the most from German fascism, throats like Gozman compare Soviet soldiers with the SS, and geeks of various stripes and sexual orientations mock the memory of the dead, desecrate monuments. Where to go further? The Internet is full of all kinds of photo shoots, where scumbags show their stretch marks on the monuments to the dead or grill kebabs on the Eternal Flame, but none of these “model models” have sat down on the bunks. For a song about the All-Russian watcher, you can go to trample the zone, but for vandalism in cemeteries and memorials they only threaten your finger. The deputies were preoccupied with the feelings of believers and quickly adopted the corresponding law, according to which, I am sure, trials will begin very soon. But why do the geeks mocking the memory of the dead and the dead go unpunished?
  23. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 27 May 2013 08: 54 New
    +3
    They are not even animals, they are stupid, cynical cattle reveling in their own impunity. Rupees for a hundred: once they are dealt with, they will start screaming about homophobia and xenophobia, realizing perfectly what really served as the real reason for the aggression against them.
    And if you look a little wider, this is a classic chess fork: either people are silent and the process of numbing the Russian population goes further, or, expressing indignation towards these geeks, raise another howl in Geyrop and Tanya.
  24. Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu 27 May 2013 08: 55 New
    10
    The fruits of lack of spirituality over the past two decades have made themselves felt over and over again. Look at these assholes from Stavropol.
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 27 May 2013 09: 02 New
      +6
      Well here is the photo, all faces are visible! You can bring to justice the photo! Parents of these imperfections would also be nice to show and puzzle about education. Fu, how disgusting, and !!!
      1. Hon
        Hon 27 May 2013 15: 24 New
        0
        Under what article to hold accountable?
    2. botur
      botur 27 May 2013 09: 50 New
      +1
      As they say, if in the head x ... then medicine is powerless.
    3. Sinbad
      Sinbad 27 May 2013 10: 50 New
      +3
      From this 34-ki and fucking at them, it’s not a pity;
  25. RussianRu
    RussianRu 27 May 2013 08: 57 New
    +3
    (Young people decided to hold this action at the Eternal Flame, and “decorating” their “show” with a remarkable element: a plate with condoms placed on the monument to soldiers who fell during the Great Patriotic War, followed by distribution of contraceptives to passers-by ....)


    We have lost the line between good and evil. We do not think at all about what is good and what is bad. I have a dual feeling for these "grief" for young people. And it seems like they didn’t do it on purpose, and at the same time it looks blasphemous.
    1. Manager
      Manager 27 May 2013 12: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Russian
      And it’s kind of like not specifically


      What exactly is not specifically? Like by chance?
      By chance you can fall asleep in the bus to not notice the grandmother standing nearby and not to give up the place on time. And these mu ... intentionally did everything.
      They need to be planted for a year, and then community service for another 2 years.
      Maybe even fearing their own ruined life, they will begin to control themselves a little, since they are not drawn to good.
  26. Lighting
    Lighting 27 May 2013 09: 02 New
    -6
    But if Yeltsin had finished off the red bastard - this would not have happened.
    1. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 27 May 2013 10: 24 New
      +1
      The "Red Bastard," as you deigned to say, without trial or investigation broke with such.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 27 May 2013 13: 22 New
        +1
        Quote: Vrungel78
        The "Red Bastard," as you deigned to say, without trial or investigation broke with such.

        This is a lie, nobody was punished without trial under the Soviet regime, it is the Americans and Europeans who massacred people without trial, in the USSR each case was considered individually.
  27. Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu 27 May 2013 09: 04 New
    +3
    In Stavropol on May 9, a group of young people took pictures at the memorial with a doll
    14.05.13/10/52, XNUMX:XNUMX a.m. Stavropol Territory



    The prosecutor's office of the Stavropol Territory began a check on the illegal actions of a group of young people on Victory Day at the memorial to the heroes of World War II, Interfax reports.

    According to the regional prosecutor’s office, verification of information posted on the Internet about the illegal actions of a group of young people on May 9, 2013 at the memorial to the heroes of the Great Patriotic War on Kulakov Avenue in Stavropol was started.

    In particular, the text of an official appeal on behalf of the residents of Stavropol to the regional prosecutor’s office regarding the desecration of monuments, the memory of relatives who fought and civic feelings was posted on the VKontakte social network.

    “Unknown people strolled and took pictures near the monument with a naked woman’s doll and behaved immorally. A plastic bottle was inserted into the doll’s mimicry female ...... hole. One of the participants was in a home bathrobe with a helmet on his head” tanker, "the text of the appeal says.
    Pay attention to the date 9 May
    1. Fitter65
      Fitter65 27 May 2013 13: 32 New
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      A criminal case was opened for the entire company, one of these pi.z.dyu.kov was expelled from the university. On TV, in the prison, they are shown such obos.ratush.ki-sorry, we didn’t want to offend anyone, apparently it’s a little kid on quiche.
    2. Normal
      Normal 27 May 2013 21: 53 New
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      Quote: Lakkuchu
      In Stavropol, May 9, a group

      To the fool of de-bilov!
    3. phantom359
      phantom359 27 May 2013 23: 12 New
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      Honestly, I would have beaten off my head and my hand would not flinch. And the Togliatti homosexuals needed to push these condoms into the point, and then seal them with cyanocrylate.
  28. horoh
    horoh 27 May 2013 09: 05 New
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    Personally, my opinion is, for such actions of these subhuman bang and all things !!!!
    1. Manager
      Manager 27 May 2013 12: 08 New
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      Quote: horoh
      for such actions of these subhuman bang and all things !!!!


      Do not shoot sex of the country. This is not an option. Patriotic education from childhood and regular church trips. Here is what will help. The rest is not even prevention, but another crime.
      1. evfrat
        evfrat 27 May 2013 23: 00 New
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        the only normal comment ...
      2. enot555
        enot555 2 June 2013 13: 44 New
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        DO YOU WANT TO SAY THAT AMONG THE "WORKERS OF THE CHURCH" THERE ARE NO PARTICIPANTS? DO NOT LAUGH, THERE IS ALSO FULLY p_and_DARO_V. AND DO NOT LIVE BY SCRIPTURE, BECAUSE A SAUNA, A DRINKER, GIRLS, WHERE ANYWHERE AND BOYS ARE NOT MEETING IN THE SCRIPTURE. SOME OF THESE EVEN DO NOT HIDE!
        SO HERE TO THEME --- THOSE U-DISHES ARE SIMPLE TO PUNISH, TAKE IT INDICATORALLY THAT OTHERS EVEN LIKE SIMILAR THOUGHTS !!!!
  29. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 27 May 2013 09: 12 New
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    <<< Young people decided to hold this action at the Eternal Flame, and “decorating” their “show” with a remarkable element: a plate with condoms placed on the monument to soldiers who fell during the Great Patriotic War, >>>
    No tolerance is already enough! For such things you just have to BEAT IN MO ... DU! In a different way, all this ... he won’t understand that there are SACRED things that you can’t touch with filthy little hands!
  30. annenkov242
    annenkov242 27 May 2013 09: 19 New
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    We all say - right! Where is it from, why?
    We exaggerate the facts, remember the law, including the moral one, try to resent, beautifully setting out, and what next !? If you spit in you, then YOU will raise your energy for this ..., imagine, they spit in us, in our history of Russia, on our ancestors and on our future !!!
    We quietly observe how patriotism is being crucified - Khabarov, Kvachkov, Budanov and many, silently collecting support statements today, and tomorrow they forgot - everyone has their own hut and for some reason from the edge. We forget that tomorrow's generation will generally forget what a REAL MAN or WOMAN is.
    Russia was RUSSIA only because the people were previously friendly, and merchants and landlords united it, they did not allow the tsar to go left or right. It was the elite of the people, and now this meaning has been perverted. For 200 years Russia has been driven into a herd and can’t, (my great-grandfather was a Decembrist - AI Annenkov, and I condemn this movement, they started to undermine the foundations of Russia) because. RUSSIAN IDENTITY works for us, and we do not want to invest anything in the egreger of the spirit of the country.
    Let's unite to fight this moral lawlessness, not to fight the ruling circles, but to fight IMMORALITY, and then the ruling circles will work for GREATNESS OF RUSSIA !!!
    GOD gives us the one we deserve, let's start with ourselves to hold on to Greatness!
    WE are the last generation to do that!
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 27 May 2013 11: 35 New
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      Quote: annenkov242
      Russia was RUSSIA only because the people were previously friendly, and merchants and landlords united it, they did not allow the tsar to go left or right.

      For this, put a minus.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 27 May 2013 13: 26 New
        +2
        Dear annenkov242, write more together drinks.
        1. dmb
          dmb 27 May 2013 14: 38 New
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          So I also did not understand where he hadn’t invested anything. Even a three-volt citizen is resting here. However, it will still be. The glorious "descendant" of the Decembrist, apparently greatly carried away by the crunch of French rolls, most likely did not read in Ostrovsky's school, began to drink smoking and speak at the same time and with equal success. The new school program will give him the opportunity to rank top managers and Zhvanetsky and Petrosyan among the Russian elite. Interestingly, but does he even know that there were several Ostrovsky writers?
  31. Semurg
    Semurg 27 May 2013 09: 39 New
    +2
    The cult film "Brother" the main character goes to buy a weapon a man opens the door for him and instead says cool "high hitler" and then appears "fascist." And the main character who fights with blacks and bandits has a nice conversation with the fascist and does not tell him that he he’s not a brother, youth was raised on such films where the fascist is funny, but the black-and-white is not a brother. Although both the fascist and the black ones who mock conductors and these AIDS fighters are berries of the same field. And everyone needs to be given a hooligan. Well, with this rubber woman malicious hooligan.
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      1. 3 inches.
        3 inches. 27 May 2013 09: 47 New
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        if you still knew who the Nazis were, then it seems that the terminology is bad again.
      2. OTAKE
        OTAKE 27 May 2013 09: 51 New
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        Quote: Lighting
        It’s better to be a fascist. Better than a red-faced scoop.

        Nazism and fascism are different things, if you meant Nazism, then it’s clear what they’re talking about, they don’t celebrate in the West on May 9, it will take 15-20 years and on May 9 no one will celebrate in Russia either, because we don’t celebrate the war of 1812 with parades, and the same thing will happen to the great Patriotic war, it’s normal, but to desecrate the memorials is nevertheless a bad business.
        1. 3 inches.
          3 inches. 27 May 2013 10: 01 New
          +3
          inappropriately responsible for the other. And we will celebrate. do not overtake. There is a difference between an attempt to conquer and destruction. If this is forgotten, it will not be soon.
          1. OTAKE
            OTAKE 27 May 2013 10: 44 New
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            Quote: 3 inches.
            inappropriately responsible for the other. And we will celebrate. do not overtake. There is a difference between an attempt to conquer and destruction. If this is forgotten, it will not be soon.

            I don’t worry) I just subtly hinted that we need to live in the present, and not look back, as it were, the Germans who lost the war live better than the winners because they pushed history aside and live by reality, but we still have grandfathers fought grandma helped
            1. 3 inches.
              3 inches. 27 May 2013 10: 48 New
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              but we don’t look back. but if walking along the road you don’t remember what you went through, you may never return.
              1. OTAKE
                OTAKE 27 May 2013 16: 02 New
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                Quote: 3 inches.
                but we don’t look back. but if walking along the road you don’t remember what you went through, you may never return.

                By the word "scoop", I do not mean a veteran of a front-line soldier, or a hero of labor of those times, but those who still have not changed the "shovel" lifestyle in today's realities, to be honest, such people are very annoying, by the way, the song is about such strata of the population, very much in the subject. :)
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 27 May 2013 16: 12 New
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                  By the word "scoop" you mean any patriot of Russia. It is dangerous for your tribe, it is uncomfortable, it interferes.
                2. 3 inches.
                  3 inches. 27 May 2013 17: 57 New
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                  you are mistaken. this is not a scoop. but usual. by the way then it behaved very quietly.
                  1. OTAKE
                    OTAKE 27 May 2013 18: 01 New
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                    Quote: 3 inches.
                    you are mistaken. this is not a scoop. but usual. by the way then it behaved very quietly.

                    then it was in the order of things, but right now off topic.
                3. V. Salama
                  V. Salama 28 May 2013 16: 23 New
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                  Quote: OTAKE
                  By the word "scoop", I do not mean a veteran of a front-line soldier, or a hero of labor of those times, but those who still have not changed the "shovel" lifestyle in today's realities, to be honest, such people are very annoying, by the way, the song is about such strata of the population, very much in the subject.

                  And the veterans of the war veterans, the heroes of labor of those times know what you "mean" by the word "scoop"? I even now (from the song) did not understand the connection between the “scoop” and “such strata of the population” that existed before the USSR, there are now who were born and have already died after the collapse of the Union. Representatives of "such layers" are now many times more, but this is not noticeable, since the modern "stick out" lives much less. By the way, I’ve never heard the term “scoop” live, I just read on TV or in posts.
                  1. OTAKE
                    OTAKE 29 May 2013 16: 17 New
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                    Quote: V. Salama
                    And the veterans of the war veterans, the heroes of labor of those times know what you "mean" by the word "scoop"?

                    Let them mean a spatula under the word "scoop", I do not mind)
                    1. V. Salama
                      V. Salama 29 May 2013 16: 40 New
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                      Quote: OTAKE
                      Let them mean a spatula under the word "scoop", I do not mind)

                      Now I realized that the "scoop" is not from "well, he blurted out without thinking." This is just an accidental puncture of the "Koga, on the side of Evil." But this post, I think already from thoughtlessness, because you devalue them all your arguments on this page. Sergei gave me the right advice here, however.
            2. MG42
              MG42 27 May 2013 23: 44 New
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              Quote: OTAKE
              I don’t worry) I just subtly hinted that we need to live in the present, and not look back, as it were, the Germans who lost the war live better than the winners because they pushed history aside and live by reality

              Well, here we need a little more to remember Marshall’s plan .. how much money has been pumped in since 1948, and the dollar then had a different weight than now ..
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 27 May 2013 16: 09 New
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          Quote: OTAKE
          15-20 years will pass and on May 9 no one will celebrate in Russia

          Hope in vain. Figures with your views tried to instill this in the population of Russia, but somehow failed.
          1. OTAKE
            OTAKE 27 May 2013 16: 18 New
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            It is dangerous for your tribe, it is uncomfortable, it interferes.

            Figures with your views tried to instill this in the population of Russia, but somehow failed.

            You have paranoia :) everywhere around are the Masons, the CIA, the Jews, the Zog and others seem, calm down everything is fine, no one has died yet)
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 27 May 2013 16: 31 New
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              Jews Turks do not polish the ass. You are not a Jew. Most likely an Azerbaijani or a Tatar. Adherent of "European values"

              Real Jews are not trying to destroy the memory of the Great Patriotic War.
              1. OTAKE
                OTAKE 27 May 2013 16: 47 New
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                Jews Turks do not polish the ass. You are not a Jew. Most likely an Azerbaijani or a Tatar. Adherent of "European values"

                However, zhzhzh, with a nationality you are mistaken, your expressions from the category of "ass polished", suggest some thoughts, you are not a patriot, Most likely - a person not of a traditional sexual orientation or just a lover of a red word. Adherent of "special values."
                Z.Y. I didn’t destroy the memory of the Second World War, and I didn’t throw the dandies into the eternal flame.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 27 May 2013 17: 07 New
                  +2
                  Quote: OTAKE
                  Adherent of "special values."

                  No. Just a person who calls a spade a spade. In another way, such an attitude towards Turkey can not be called. So teenage girls relate to Dima Bilan.
                  And this attitude is not in Russian and not in Jewish traditions.


                  Quote: OTAKE
                  I didn’t destroy the memory of the Great Patriotic War, and I don’t dare notice Mr. Andons in the eternal flame

                  Too cowardly for that? However, you are the bearer of the same "values"

                  Quote: OTAKE
                  they don’t celebrate in the West on May 9, it will take 15-20 years and on May 9 no one will celebrate in Russia

                  Quote: OTAKE
                  just subtly hinted that one must live in the present, and not look back, however that may be, the Germans who lost the war therefore live better than the winners

                  Quote: OTAKE
                  and those who still have not changed the "shovel" lifestyle in today's realities, frankly, this kind of people are very annoying
                  1. OTAKE
                    OTAKE 27 May 2013 17: 32 New
                    +1
                    No. Just a person who calls a spade a spade. In another way, such an attitude towards Turkey can not be called. So teenage girls relate to Dima Bilan.

                    You are a strange person, not knowing your opponent, trying to draw conclusions that you said from the ceiling, as they say, not with x * I. similarly declare to you: cabbage, tomato and locusts. (I will explain for the FGMnutykhs that I respect Turkey as a secular, but at the same time a Muslim state, which is an economic athlete among Islamic countries) apparently you really are not an ordinary person, since they dragged Dima Bilan, obviously a secret admirer? I have relatives in Turkey, and in Azerbaijan, and in Siberia, and in St. Petersburg, and in Dagestan, so leave your vysers to yourself, or rather listen to something from the Bilan Repertoire, maybe cool your flight of thought.

                    And this attitude is not in Russian and not in Jewish traditions.

                    oh these traditions :) traditionalist you are an expert on Internet vyser.


                    http://prian.ru/pub/24762.html - улыбнуло. З.Ы Кстати там и про недвижимость в Турции есть колонка, такие традиции, такие традиции что рынок недвижимости а Анталье уже рвется от покупок Россиян, наверное так ненавидят Турцию что хотят приехать и отдохнуть там а может и прикупить что нибудь типо квартирки или коттеджа
                    1. OTAKE
                      OTAKE 27 May 2013 17: 49 New
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                      Too cowardly for that? However, you are the bearer of the same "values"

                      no, not cowardly)) you yourself understood what you said? for what purpose should I desecrate the grave of an unknown soldier? In my opinion, I have already explained to you more than once that I have nothing alive or dead against the Great Patriotic War veterans and Front-line soldiers, but again you are distorting ..
                      although .. it’s clear with whom I am discussing .. a padded jacket, he is also in a padded jacket in Africa
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 27 May 2013 17: 58 New
                        +2
                        Quote: OTAKE
                        for what purpose should I desecrate the grave of an unknown soldier?

                        I also honestly did not understand on the basis of what your words your opponents made such * far-reaching * conclusions !?
                      2. V. Salama
                        V. Salama 28 May 2013 17: 29 New
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                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I also honestly did not understand on the basis of what your words your opponents made such * far-reaching * conclusions !?

                        Sorry to interrupt. In this case, I judge on my own: for me personally, to throw a condom into eternal flame, to say the word “scoop” - there is no difference, a crime against the history of the country. A man throws this word and is not able to give a definition of this concept. On the banners under which the fallen in battle were attacked, it was embroidered: "For our Soviet Motherland!" Nowadays, few people are able to die for their homeland. It turns out, WWII veterans are "scoops"? Or am I having problems with logic?
                      3. Setrac
                        Setrac 28 May 2013 17: 43 New
                        +1
                        Quote: V. Salama
                        Or am I having problems with logic?

                        You have the wrong attitude towards your opponents, you think that they are simply mistaken, but this is not so. They are enemies and traitors who consciously defame our Motherland, as a rule for salaries from the State Department.
                      4. V. Salama
                        V. Salama 29 May 2013 13: 57 New
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                        Quote: Setrac
                        you think that they are simply mistaken

                        I hope so, until I am convinced. Or the discussion itself makes no sense
                    2. OTAKE
                      OTAKE 29 May 2013 06: 17 New
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                      Quote: V. Salama
                      A man throws this word and is not able to give a definition of this concept.

                      In my opinion, I have repeatedly said that a scoop is not a nationality, a scoop is not a life position, a scoop is not a worldview, a scoop is a state of mind in which in the 21st century, a scoop (system) is dead along with the USSR, and scoops (people) remain and they can’t detach themselves from the past, and they are trying to bring soviet ideals in the new time, in the new century, in the new realities, it looks as stupid and dumb as in a song, in the yard of the 21st century, a different system, other ideals, and you’re all in you’re trying to sneak away unclely times, and you’re surprised that everything in our country is through the ass, as they say a person can be relocated from a scoop, you can ruin a scoop, you can move it to another country, but you can’t drive the scoop out of a person, because Phimosis of the brain in this kind of people, goes over the top
                    3. V. Salama
                      V. Salama 29 May 2013 13: 32 New
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                      Quote: OTAKE
                      In my opinion, I have repeatedly said, this scoop ...
                      It is said and now quite a few, but you fill this concept only with the most famous content for you. Otherwise, I could determine whether I personally belong to the scoop or not, and which of my friends scoop?
                      Quote: OTAKE
                      ... the scoop (system) is dead along with the USSR

                      Is a scoop a socialist (Soviet) system?
                      Quote: OTAKE
                      ... scoops (people) are left and can not detach from the past
                      "Unfasten" - is to forget your story and not draw conclusions?
                      Quote: OTAKE
                      ... and they are trying to bring soviet ideals in the new time
                      What is this all about? If you really understand what you’re talking about, then what “shovel ideal” is bothering us (at least one name)?
                      Quote: OTAKE
                      ... in the courtyard of the 21st century, a different system, other ideals
                      Here I am aware, but I would like to object to the "other ideals." Let me remind you that we don’t have a state ideology right now, because at one time there were tasks at the state level: "We have to de-ideologize society, depoliticize the army ...", which is impossible in principle, since "the ideas themselves take over the masses ...". This was done on purpose, which, in the end, they themselves ran into. So now everyone is free to choose their "ideals" and propose the President to the project. And here you could share your ideas about good and evil, about the harmful and useful, fair and unjust, about what a “priest” is and how to deal with it. But I hope you understand what you are talking about when it comes to "other ideals"?
                      Quote: OTAKE
                      ... and you are all trying to sneak away at the time of uncle,
                      What really decided? Nothing better was found in the past except Makhno?
                      Quote: OTAKE
                      ... but a scoop from a person, you can’t drive out in any way ... a scoop is a state of mind ...
                      Well, what is a "scoop"? At least one essential property? Of course, I suppose that you mean, but you cannot say anything new, you have to lie a lot, because this term was coined by our enemies.
                      Just in case (perhaps a reason for reflection) I will cite the statement of the German writer, Nobel Prize winner Thomas Mann: "Only anti-communism can be more vile than communism."
                    4. OTAKE
                      OTAKE 29 May 2013 16: 29 New
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                      It is said and now quite a few, but you fill this concept only with the most famous content for you. Otherwise, I could determine whether I personally belong to the scoop or not, and which of my friends scoop?

                      The fact that you can’t define any concepts is purely your problem, I’m not a mentor to teach you, with your posts above you proved that you didn’t read my messages, found a couple of my statements and try to inflate an elephant from them, there’s a definition of a Soviet person - who he fought, taught, sewed, built, researched, mined - he did business without show-offs and unnecessary words, and he really built a country for which there was no shame, but there is a Scoop - who speaks a lot, does little, blames some non-driven forces for his troubles , trying to pass off black as white and all this against the backdrop of a dead Soviet country, the question is, why? do not drag the story, leave it alone and no tattered, and those who threw these gandons on the eternal flame will not affect this story. I repeat in the courtyard of the 21st century, I understand the USSR is cool and good, the rocket tanks of steel the nuclear bond plane is very wonderful, but returning to it is idiocy, and the less you touch the past, the less it will be shaken out of it in the present and future.

                      You can’t say anything new, you have to lie a lotbecause this term invented by our enemies.

                      that the word "scoop" say - there’s no difference, crime against history of the country

                      I can honestly say that you are a typical scoop) the scoop always lies around, all enemies, and everyone needs to sew a case or crime out of the blue) In general, the ideas of Felix Edmundovich live as he said there .. "If you have not been put , this does not mean at all that you are innocent or loyal to the Soviet government. It’s just a temporary flaw in the organs "
                    5. V. Salama
                      V. Salama 29 May 2013 18: 35 New
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                      Quote: OTAKE
                      ... by the posts above you proved that you didn’t read my messages,
                      I read everything on this page, but here you are my comments on your posts - not all (regarding the "stickouts").
                      Quote: OTAKE
                      there is a definition ...
                      Well, you didn’t start with it, no one knew what it is, give a reference.
                      Quote: OTAKE
                      ... do not drag the story, leave it alone and no tattered, and from those who threw these gandons on the eternal flame will not affect this story
                      But this is bad advice, in what academies is this taught? These are just foolish fabrications, to say the least ... The history and the “Victory Day” are needed not only by veterans who, in your words, should celebrate it, that this is only their holiday, they will leave and the holiday should go. It was later justified that "it is neither good nor bad, perhaps there will be other victories." History and soldering are needed first of all alive, if we want to live on.
                      Quote: OTAKE
                      ... and all this against the backdrop of a dead Soviet country, the question is, why?
                      Our country (these are the same people) is not dead yet, although another one is already. And "why?" - pretend, however, we have not yet decided on the value system for which we are fighting, and you immediately - "what for?"
                      Quote: OTAKE
                      ... this is idiocy, and the less they touch the past, the less shame on it will be shaken out in the present and future.
                      They themselves understood what they wrote. You propose abolishing history as part of social experience and as a branch of knowledge. This is of course easier than sorting out more than 40 history textbooks at school.
                      Quote: OTAKE
                      I can honestly say that you are a typical scoop) the scoop always lies around, all enemies, and everyone needs to sew a case or crime out of the blue)

                      Here you have somewhat expanded your previous definition of a scoop. By the way, I did not accuse you of lying, do not distort. I said that you have to lie. In rhetoric and logic (the science of the laws of thought) there are techniques that are called dishonest (at the household level they are called vile). So, shitting, and then twisting it out, rely on the definitions of concepts invented along the way, on the statements of F.I. Dzerzhinsky, whose source is incomprehensible - this is from the same opera. And what to call a person who admits meanness. “Hand on heart” I begin to think badly of you and suspect of insincerity.
                    6. Kostya pedestrian
                      Kostya pedestrian 31 May 2013 12: 30 New
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                      It can be seen that our soldiers and sailors in the Other World scare these Japs and Fritz, so they conjure / program our youth through Pokimon and Toyota, so that they don’t remember the relationship they sacrificed and humiliated their spirit, and prayed for their scrap metal and even from our steel and gas.

                      And the action, apparently, was invented with subtext, such as the super blue computer of the rising sun came up with a “joke”, not to protect us from sexually transmitted diseases, but as a hint that Heroes would not be born anymore.


                      Cut it, bite it out of your kamikaze. It seems honorable to you, but shameful for us.
          2. Lopatov
            Lopatov 27 May 2013 18: 54 New
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            Quote: OTAKE
            no, not cowardly)) you yourself understood what you said? for what purpose should I desecrate the grave of an unknown soldier?

            And how else can you express your commitment to "European values"? The only way.
            How will you be able to ensure that "after 15-20 years no one celebrated May 9th"?
            It turns out that you are simply afraid to fight for your beliefs. Therefore, I consider you cowardly.

            I am normal towards NATO; I do not consider them dangerous at the moment. I do not believe in ZOG and other anti-Semitic horror stories. I think McFaul with a compass is a close-minded person who spent money on a zilch. Well and so on. Normal patriot of his country

            And to the quilted jackets I feel great. A handy thing if you cut the sleeves.
          3. OTAKE
            OTAKE 27 May 2013 19: 04 New
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            Quote: Spade
            And how else can you express your commitment to "European values"? The only way.

            belay I never thought that the culture of Europe is gandons in eternal flame, or naked dancing girls on the grave of an unknown soldier, I thought that the culture of Europe is Leonardo Da Vinci, Personality, Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood, I thought that the culture of Europe is Pictures, Renaissance, Architecture .. I thought the culture of Europe is Science, Galileo Galilei, Leonardo Bruni, I thought that the culture of Europe is Literature, Music, Pierre de Ronsard, Shakespeare, Thomas Nash, Beethoven, Bach, Mozart .. and here it is that it turns out .. here they are real European values ​​.. Thank you Mr. Lopatov, now I truly understood that Europe is a complete ass! And their values ​​are not the same as ours, here it is our culture! and let these stupid Europeans wash themselves!


            Look at these spiritualized, sun-faced faces, well, how can they be emptied on the grave of an unknown soldier? no! Only rotten Europeans and pend.osy can do this!
          4. Lopatov
            Lopatov 27 May 2013 19: 36 New
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            Quote: OTAKE
            I never thought that the culture of Europe is gandons in eternal flame, or naked dancing girls on the grave of an unknown soldier,

            No, these are methods of struggle Your like-minded people with our culture

            Quote: OTAKE
            Thank you Mr. Lopatov, now I truly understood that Europe is a complete ass!

            At least someone should have told you this. And do not talk about the old European culture. With her there is the same struggle as with our Russian.
            Already before Anderson’s tales, the zealous “fighters for tolerance” got there. And you are talking about Shakespeare Beethoven da Bach ... The Germans are ashamed of their great composer Wagner. Where to go?

            Quote: OTAKE
            Look at these spiritualized, sun-faced faces,

            Normal faces. You just sang about "freedom, equality and brotherhood." What, for some physiognomic reasons, are you going to refuse this?
          5. OTAKE
            OTAKE 27 May 2013 19: 43 New
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            Quote: Spade
            No, these are methods of the struggle of your like-minded people with our culture

            I never thought that Vasily Alkan from a neighboring entrance, or a schoolboy from the yard with a jaguar of Jaguar, my associates, directors of the CIA and Mossad, were surprised directly, tomorrow I’ll ask them if they are sent agents from the west, maybe they will split.

            At least someone should have told you this. And do not talk about the old European culture. With her there is the same struggle as with our Russian.
            Already before Anderson’s tales, the zealous “fighters for tolerance” got there. And you are talking about Shakespeare Beethoven da Bach ... The Germans are ashamed of their great composer Wagner. Where to go?

            The Europeans, in alliance with the Russians, are trying to repel the otaki of Martians who have come to our culture art and people.

            Normal faces. You just sang about "freedom, equality and brotherhood." What, for some physiognomic reasons, are you going to refuse this?

            in small quantities should be present, but not when every 5th, this is no longer on the topic of comrade
          6. Lopatov
            Lopatov 27 May 2013 20: 00 New
            +2
            Quote: OTAKE
            I never thought that Vasily alkan from a nearby entrance, or a shkolot from the yard with a jar of Jaguar, my like-minded people

            Shkolota is your target audience.

            Quote: OTAKE
            The Europeans, in alliance with the Russians, are trying to repel the otaki of Martians who have come to our culture art and people.

            No, the worst thing is that you are not Martians.

            Quote: OTAKE
            in small quantities should be present, but not when every 5th, this is no longer on the topic of comrade

            That is, "Freedom, Equality and Brotherhood" in your vision of the world is not for everyone? Well, I suspected it.
          7. OTAKE
            OTAKE 27 May 2013 20: 06 New
            -1
            That is, "Freedom, Equality and Brotherhood" in your vision of the world is not for everyone? Well, I suspected it.

            And you thought you were in a fairy tale?
          8. Lopatov
            Lopatov 27 May 2013 20: 17 New
            +1
            Quote: OTAKE
            And you thought you were in a fairy tale?

            No, I just thought your audience was a little more ideological
  32. OTAKE
    OTAKE 27 May 2013 19: 24 New
    +1
    A bit about the traditions regarding your beloved Jews. In this case, already dead.






  33. Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 May 2013 20: 03 New
    -3
    Actually, I don’t see anything particularly anti-Semitic here. Ordinary ki "indulge." In the first photo, a wreath burnt on the cross. What does he have to do with the Jews?
  34. OTAKE
    OTAKE 27 May 2013 20: 07 New
    0
    Quote: Spade
    Actually, I don’t see anything particularly anti-Semitic here. Ordinary ki "indulge." In the first photo, a wreath burnt on the cross. What does he have to do with the Jews?

    at least such a thing as a Jewish cemetery, and so in general, no
  35. Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 May 2013 20: 20 New
    0
    A cross in a Jewish cemetery? Very interesting. But it looks like another provocative photo selection. Turn on the brains, dear. The linden should be linden, not oak
  36. OTAKE
    OTAKE 27 May 2013 20: 22 New
    +3
    Quote: Spade
    A cross in a Jewish cemetery? Very interesting. But it looks like another provocative photo selection. Turn on the brains, dear. The linden should be linden, not oak

    must a Jew be a Jew? or is a Jew a religion?
    But it happens

  37. Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 May 2013 20: 33 New
    0
    Some of your very liquid excuses have gone.
  38. OTAKE
    OTAKE 27 May 2013 20: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: Spade
    Some of your very liquid excuses have gone.

    And who actually makes excuses?) And who are you to make excuses to you? and most importantly why?)
  39. evfrat
    evfrat 27 May 2013 23: 16 New
    0
    READY TO WAIT!
  40. Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 May 2013 23: 17 New
    +1
    And in Russian?
  41. radio operator
    radio operator 1 June 2013 20: 38 New
    0
    Quote: OTAKE
    must a Jew be a Jew? or is a Jew a religion?

    What does the Jews in general and Putin?
    What is the contradiction here, if the GDP is Orthodox, and the state is secular?
  42. V. Salama
    V. Salama 29 May 2013 15: 44 New
    0
    Quote: OTAKE
    A bit about the traditions regarding your beloved Jews. In this case, already dead
    I do not understand why this argument? In ordinary (sorry, I almost wrote in Russian) cemeteries, this is a common thing now. And condoms are already hanging on the monuments. Now, if I did a photo selection of such vandalisms and wrote that this was happening in Russian cemeteries, then they could have immediately accused me, if not of anti-Semitism, then of nationalism. Why aren't you afraid that you will be accused of Zionism?
  43. evfrat
    evfrat 27 May 2013 23: 12 New
    +1
    Imagine your formidable patriotic look in a sleeveless padded jacket! )
  44. Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 May 2013 23: 15 New
    +1
    Dressed for unloading. Maybe not formidable. But it’s warm.
  45. OTAKE
    OTAKE 28 May 2013 07: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: evfrat
    Imagine your formidable patriotic look in a sleeveless padded jacket! )

    FREEDOM! EQUALITY! CLEARING! HANDLING FOLLOWS YOU !!!
  46. evfrat
    evfrat 27 May 2013 23: 10 New
    +2
    COLLAPSED !!!
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 May 2013 19: 01 New
    +2
    Quote: OTAKE
    so keep your vysers with you

    Great tip. For you. Do not touch our dirty little hands our holiday, our memory. Accessible enough for a fan of an “athlete among Islamic countries” - Turkey?

    Quote: OTAKE
    real estate market and Antalya is already torn by purchases of Russians, probably Turkey is so hated

    Darn. For you, there is either hatred or love. You hate Russia, treat Turkey with aspiration.

    And Russians are simply critical of Turkey. And a little down. No more. By the way, like the Jews.
    1. OTAKE
      OTAKE 27 May 2013 19: 12 New
      -4
      Great tip. For you. Do not touch our dirty little hands our holiday, our memory. Accessible enough for a fan of an “athlete among Islamic countries” - Turkey?

      I touched your holiday with clean hands, honestly, I wash my hands before eating, after the push and after the street, infa hundred percent! and you?

      Darn. For you, there is either hatred or love. You hate Russia, treat Turkey with aspiration.

      Where did I hate Russia? But you, however, tovarisch behave like a schoolgirl during the menstruation cycle, do not try to look for jambs out of the blue.

      And Russians are simply critical of Turkey. And a little down. No more. By the way, like the Jews.

      Do you dream of Jews at night? that you drag them everywhere? And why do you drag Turkey in general? act thickly, thickly, troll fat has already leaked from the monitor.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 27 May 2013 19: 46 New
      +2
      Quote: OTAKE
      I touched your holiday with clean hands, honestly, I wash my hands before eating, after the push and after the street, infa hundred percent! and you?

      Do you think this phrase is original and funny?


      Quote: OTAKE
      Where did I hate Russia? But you, however, tovarisch behave like a schoolgirl during the menstruation cycle, do not try to look for jambs out of the blue.

      In the soul you hate her. and express it in your posts. Cowardly, so that no one would find fault.

      Quote: OTAKE
      Do you dream of Jews at night? that you drag them everywhere?

      In fact, you dragged the Jews. Trying to accuse me of anti-Semitism
      Quote: OTAKE
      You have paranoia :) everywhere around are Masons, CIA, Jews, Zog and others seem

      So watch your posts. Do not expose yourself not very smart from scratch. Is it hard to remember what you wrote?
    3. OTAKE
      OTAKE 27 May 2013 20: 09 New
      -2
      [quote = Lopatov] Do you think this phrase of yours is original and funny?
      [/ Quote]
      No, I didn’t set goals to make anyone laugh, you’ll laugh at the circus.

      [quote] In the soul you hate her. and express it in your posts. Cowardly, so that no one would find fault.
      / Quote]
      you already managed to get into my soul? O_O is very entertaining.

      [quote] So watch your posts. Do not expose yourself not very smart from scratch. Is it hard to remember what you wrote?
      [/ Quote]
      Well, I’ll explain for the most impressionable that this figurative expression about Jews is not addressed to you personally, but to the whole audience, where you found accusations of anti-Semitism here, I don’t understand
    4. Lopatov
      Lopatov 27 May 2013 20: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: OTAKE
      Well, I’ll explain for the most impressionable that this figurative expression about Jews is addressed not to you personally, but to the whole audience

      Flimsy. You turned to me.
    5. OTAKE
      OTAKE 27 May 2013 20: 27 New
      -2
      Quote: Spade
      Quote: OTAKE
      Well, I’ll explain for the most impressionable that this figurative expression about Jews is addressed not to you personally, but to the whole audience

      Flimsy. You turned to me.

      Even if it’s for you, it doesn’t change anything :)
    6. Lopatov
      Lopatov 27 May 2013 20: 35 New
      +2
      It changes. It is difficult to argue with an opponent who does not remember what he wrote. You look, you will refuse your words about the Victory Day.
    7. OTAKE
      OTAKE 27 May 2013 20: 38 New
      0
      Quote: Spade
      It changes. It is difficult to argue with an opponent who does not remember what he wrote. You look, you will refuse your words about the Victory Day.

      I didn’t refuse my words) I explained to you personally)
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 27 May 2013 22: 16 New
    +2
    I was struck that there are psychics here who know what Ruslan hates in the shower !!))
    Damn that's so new and shot after the revolution of people !!
    I know what's in your soul, only because you eat using a fork and knife !!
    Sad!
  • OTAKE
    OTAKE 27 May 2013 19: 20 New
    -1
    And this attitude is not in Russian and not in Jewish traditions.

    a few photos in the style of "Russian traditions", I will explain for the most impressionable, in everything presented below, the Turks, Azerbaijanis, Massons, ZOG, the CIA, Americans, and Europeans are to blame .. here ..





  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 May 2013 19: 47 New
    +1
    For some young people, your ideas are successful. But their life will correct. And such quiet people as you are incorrigible.
  • OTAKE
    OTAKE 27 May 2013 20: 10 New
    -2
    Quote: Spade
    For some young people, your ideas are successful. But their life will correct. And such quiet people as you are incorrigible.

    you have real paranoia)
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 May 2013 20: 28 New
    +2
    Quote: OTAKE
    you have real paranoia)

    And then. After all, any opinion other than yours is exclusively paranoia.
  • OTAKE
    OTAKE 27 May 2013 20: 37 New
    0
    Quote: Spade
    Quote: OTAKE
    you have real paranoia)

    And then. After all, any opinion other than yours is exclusively paranoia.

    Yes, it’s not a matter of opinion, but the fact that you do not correctly interpret my statements, and based on your personal reasoning, are trying to arrange any cliches, it looks a bit scant from the side, as if you can continue to live in your own little virtual a little world in which the nostrils pissing at the monument to warriors, tattered, with a jaguar can are agents of the West, and comrades painting swastikas on the monuments are just "dabbling kids" again, under the bad influence of the West, you know there is such an expression - if it smells like shit , check first not whether you crashed, and then look for the source of trouble, at the moment everything is the other way around, in your case.
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 May 2013 20: 42 New
    +2
    Quote: OTAKE
    It’s not a matter of opinion, but the fact that you do not correctly interpret my statements,

    Let’s from the very beginning. How should I interpret your statement about the Victory Day
  • OTAKE
    OTAKE 27 May 2013 20: 51 New
    -1
    Quote: Spade
    Quote: OTAKE
    It’s not a matter of opinion, but the fact that you do not correctly interpret my statements,

    Let’s from the very beginning. How should I interpret your statement about the Victory Day

    I clearly wrote in my opinion that sooner or later they will stop celebrating Victory Day, and it’s neither good nor bad, who knows what will happen in 20-30 years, after the last veteran dies, who knows, the standard of living will increase and people will already it’s not like looking at gallant parades and red banners, who knows, maybe there will be new wars, new victories that will also be celebrated. And it’s not worth it to focus on it, the holiday is not ours, but veterans. It is very pleasing being on the square on May 9 to see herds of thumping bydl, heaps of beer bottles, yagi and the like slag, even a schoolboy rolls for a victory, it looks from the outside it is shameful and scanty, it’s better not to celebrate at all than like that.
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 May 2013 21: 28 New
    +4
    Do you have any idea what this is about? About the war in which we lost 22 million people only at the office. Soviet data. To forget this, you just have to be a non-human. And no raised standard of living will make you forget. Only massive propaganda to fool the population.
    Which is now underway. People who consider themselves to be carriers of "universal values." And this feint with ears- "this is not our holiday, but veterans" comes from them. it наш holiday. And therefore on it is to "go in cycles".
    And how we will celebrate this holiday is entirely in our hands. What does a normal person need to go up to the viewer and explain what the ribbon means, which he tied obscenely. That the Order of Glory was given, including for the fact that people continued to fight in a burning tank. Young people perceive such things normally.
  • OTAKE
    OTAKE 28 May 2013 08: 17 New
    +1
    This is our holiday. And therefore it is worth it to "go in cycles".
    And how we will celebrate this holiday is entirely in our hands. What does a normal person need to go up to the viewer and explain what the ribbon means, which he tied obscenely. That the Order of Glory was given, including for the fact that people continued to fight in a burning tank. Young people perceive such things normally.

    A couple of words about the youth who normally take the holiday, by the way, when I was in school, in my class, 4-5 people could say from what year the great Russian was, about how many died and which countries (except Russia ( about the USSR no one even in courses) and Germany) participated even better not to ask, young people frankly - do not give a shit, hence such problems, and inappropriately talk about the fooling of the Masons and the pin-ups-prushniks.
    It seems Lopatov slept VKontakte))









    It will become easier for Lopatov when the whole world will be one big scoop, but who will you blame for troubles then? are Martians really?
  • OTAKE
    OTAKE 28 May 2013 08: 53 New
    0
    Do you have any idea what this is about? About the war in which we lost 22 million people only at the office. Soviet data. To forget this, you just have to be a non-human. And no raised standard of living will make you forget. Only massive propaganda to fool the population.
    Which is now underway. People who consider themselves to be carriers of "universal values." And this feint with ears- "this is not our holiday, but veterans" comes from them.


    Many years ago, Will Rogers wittily remarked: "Russia is a country about which, whatever you say, everything will be true."
    There is propaganda, someone has real relatives who fought, there are archives, documents, everything in sight, in the current form did not make a holiday from the Victory Day, but just a circus, so that gentlemen like you would fiercely fad on television programs "ala victory parade ", they say, look at how many tanks, planes and rockets we have, we’ll probably be able to fight like our grandfathers, and you will do it and with a formidable look reel the next St. George ribbon on a bottle of vodka, the victory day is no longer a holiday, but a circus, too I can say the most about the day of the Airborne Forces, last year I talked with the “Airborne Forces” who flopped loudest in fountains in the middle of the city, all in tattoos ala “FOR the Airborne Forces”, or something like “Break For Vaska the Airborne Forces” he served in the airborne troops, but he was far from parachuting and shooting from an automatic rifle, but he was engaged in purely transporting parachutes to the plane and cleaning the territory on the runway, Airborne Forces, who will argue, but only for business It doesn’t turn out that there are a lot of show-offs, but little business, the same thing on May 9, a lot of show-offs, and returns - zero, showered off, drowned out the vodka, threw loud speeches, and the ousted went home, why such a holiday? Why spend such funds on God knows what events? Buy apartments for veterans - I understand that, give land a plot of land for a garden, give carnations, hold some kind of meeting between veterans, call shkolota there, let them listen to real stories, why is this not a holiday? why start this whole circus? Do not cult from the celebration of victory


    Why are the mummers? She has other people's awards: in our history only one woman had at the same time the title of Hero of the Soviet Union and Hero of Socialist Labor - this is the famous pilot Valentina Stepanovna Grizodubova. It has alien order blocks: the Order of Lenin was attached to the title of Hero of the Soviet Union, but there is no block on the photo. There are three orders of the Patriotic War on this mummers: there is only one woman who has been awarded three such orders - this is the Hero of the Soviet Union, deputy squadron commander of the 46th guards female regiment of night bombers Nadezhda Vasilievna Popova.
    Interestingly, in 2010, this mummy wore the epaulettes of the colonel. And in the next 2011, she was already dressed in a strange general's tunic.
  • Setrac
    Setrac 28 May 2013 17: 32 New
    +1
    Quote: OTAKE
    Why are the mummers?

    There are veterans whose exploits are still under the stamp of "top secret."
  • OTAKE
    OTAKE 29 May 2013 06: 08 New
    0
    Quote: Setrac
    Quote: OTAKE
    Why are the mummers?

    There are veterans whose exploits are still under the stamp of "top secret."

    lol 68 years have passed, the shelf life of secrecy has long expired, and by the way, the country in which they have been secret for as long as 20 years)
  • V. Salama
    V. Salama 29 May 2013 16: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: OTAKE
    ... gentlemen like you frantically faped on television shows "ala victory parade", they say look at how many tanks, planes and rockets we have, we will probably be able to fight like our grandfathers ...
    You don’t have to speculate for everyone, many remember 1992, when riot police crushed veterans in the Alexander Garden of veterans (after all, they thought of laying wreaths at the Eternal Flame). The fifth column already at that time through the media suggested that the “May 9th” be canceled, but failed. The power itself has come to its senses - from such a people it may come to its senses from brainwashing, it will immediately understand what's what. So - Victory Day, Mausoleum, Soviet street names, etc. these are all elements of ideological warfare with the task of "desacralizing the holy sites of the enemy." And if there is an impact, then there is a reaction and, naturally, the suppression of the reaction, first of all, by the forces of the fifth column.
    On the mummers everything is clear, already understood. There is no damage from them (those in the photo, etc.) asking for benefits. This is a consequence of old age and a lack of attention to them. They do not require anything else. And to cite such facts in the form of arguments is, to put it mildly, ugly.
  • MG42
    MG42 27 May 2013 22: 09 New
    +3
    Quote: OTAKE
    I clearly wrote that sooner or later they will stop celebrating Victory Day

    Дden Пlunches are right.
    ... you obviously << swam behind buoys >> and spread like cynical thoughts ...
    Quote: OTAKE
    And it’s not worth it to focus on it, the holiday is not ours, but veterans.

    Just as the gozman and Mikhalkov were discussing, you are directly broadcasting quotes from that dialogue ...
    Quote: OTAKE
    It is very pleasing being on the square on May 9 to see herds of thumping bydl, heaps of beer bottles, yagi and the like slag, even a schoolboy rolls for victory,

    and a blue padded jacket in the picture reinforced their liberalism ..
    Quote: OTAKE
    it’s better not to celebrate at all than that.

    Celebrated Victory Day and will celebrate wink Culture is lame in individual citizens, but let it be on their conscience and their parents ... Individuals as in this topic should be punished for vandalism ..
  • OTAKE
    OTAKE 28 May 2013 07: 23 New
    -4
    Quote: MG42
    Victory Day is so right.
    ... you obviously << swam behind buoys >> and spread like cynical thoughts ...

    something from the same vomit patriotic opera, when they instilled from the school bench to write "motherland" with a capital letter.

    Just as the gozman and Mikhalkov were discussing, you are directly broadcasting quotes from that dialogue ...

    you Gozman wrote with a small letter !! you are anti-Semite !! And to put Migalkov’s opinion on me. I don’t taste what they are discussing about there, I don’t watch films, it’s not there, discussions

    and a blue padded jacket in the picture reinforced their liberalism ..

    what are you speaking about? what picture? what kind of liberalism? I have the same relation to liberalism as you damn ballet.

    We celebrated Victory Day and we will celebrate. Culture is lame among individual citizens, but let it be on their conscience and their parents ... Individuals as in this topic should be punished for vandalism ..

    I don’t know how it is with you, but in whatever city I may be on May 9, I see the same thing, booze, bruises, bydlo, drunk, and shkolota with a yaga.
  • Setrac
    Setrac 28 May 2013 17: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: OTAKE
    you Gozman wrote with a small letter !! you are anti-Semite !!

    gozman, gozman, gozman ...
    Any sane person is an anti-Semite! These are not bad anti-sims, these are Jews - bad people, they live so that everyone hates them.
  • MG42
    MG42 28 May 2013 21: 02 New
    +2
    Quote: Setrac
    Any sane person is an anti-Semite!

    Thanks for your understanding, namesake. I did not like this gozman, not because he was a Jew, but because of his worldview. When they write the names of countries with a small letter it does not surprise anyone here ..
  • MG42
    MG42 28 May 2013 21: 09 New
    +2
    Quote: OTAKE
    something from the same vomit patriotic opera, when they instilled from the school bench to write "motherland" with a capital letter.

    Well, here is a typical example of the word Homeland with a small but gozman demand a big laughing
    Quote: OTAKE
    what kind of liberalism? I have the same relation to liberalism as you damn ballet.

    Yes, in ballet is not strong ..
    Quote: OTAKE
    I don’t know how it is with you, but in whatever city I may be on May 9, I see the same thing, booze, bruises, bydlo, drunk, and shkolota with a yaga.

    And here is Victory Day ?? The pig will find dirt everywhere, but the drunk did not drink in the morning = the day was gone ..
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 27 May 2013 22: 24 New
    +2
    Quote: OTAKE
    I clearly wrote in my opinion that sooner or later they will stop celebrating Victory Day, and it’s neither good nor bad, who knows what will happen in 20-30 years, after the last veteran dies, who knows, the standard of living will increase and people will already it’s not like looking at gallant parades and red banners, who knows, maybe there will be new wars, new victories that will also be celebrated. And it’s not worth it to focus on it, the holiday is not ours, but veterans. It is very pleasing being on the square on May 9 to see herds of thumping bydl, heaps of beer bottles, yagi and the like slag, even a schoolboy rolls for a victory, it looks from the outside it is shameful and scanty, it’s better not to celebrate at all than like that.

    You are absolutely right!
    I add that 20 years ago I could not believe that some condoms would put condoms at the monument and that fellow citizens would not break them !!!
  • MG42
    MG42 27 May 2013 22: 41 New
    +4
    Quote: Yarbay
    20 years ago, I could not believe that some condoms would be placed at the monument and that fellow citizens would not break them !!!
    ... antagonists do not always meet in the same place at one time, but the response is sometimes >> a fresh example of Natsik from the Freedom Party demolished a monument to Lenin in the Sumy Region, in response, the monuments to Bandera and Shukhevych that nobody had touched before as they say do not wake famously ..
    Who knows .. maybe they themselves will be pulled using it as a rubber product .. the faces are captured in a close-up of the video below ..
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 May 2013 23: 05 New
    +1
    Come on, dear, he fundamentally does not give a damn about all these Eternal Lights. Balabol. Not so long ago, he watered Russian officers of guano. He said they were fiends, forcing subordinates to shoot unarmed. He justified the Ingush teenagers who threw stones at our columns traveling to Chechnya. And like water from a goose. He thinks that everything is possible for him.
  • OTAKE
    OTAKE 28 May 2013 07: 24 New
    -3
    Quote: Yarbay
    I add that 20 years ago I could not believe that some condoms would put condoms at the monument and that fellow citizens would not break them !!!

    I assure you, if the Azerbaijanis did this, or even at least someone else, the stink would have stood 100500 times more) well, here it’s your own ...
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 27 May 2013 22: 21 New
    +2
    Quote: OTAKE
    you have real paranoia)

    Now, if someone does not read your dialogue first, he will think that you are really to blame for something !!
    You understand for people like Lopatov, it’s enough that your opinion does not at least coincide with his opinion !!
    You immediately are no longer * a patriot *! You are immediately * a patron *!
    You are a good fellow, but a little unrestrained!
    I am proud to be familiar with you !!
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 May 2013 22: 28 New
    +2
    Quote: Yarbay
    You understand for people like Lopatov, it’s enough that your opinion does not at least coincide with his opinion !!


    Why? For example, your opinion I absolutely do not care. It coincides with mine, or not, it does not matter.

    And do not bother, annoying.
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 27 May 2013 22: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: Spade
    Why? For example, your opinion I absolutely do not care. It coincides with mine, or not, it does not matter.

    Yes, the fact of the matter is that I don’t give a damn about your everyday opinion and didn’t turn to you !!
    but people like you !!
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 May 2013 22: 58 New
    +1
    Why then sprawled? Oh yes, he is also from the circle of Turkish w..liz. Well done, you have to protect your own.
  • OTAKE
    OTAKE 28 May 2013 07: 26 New
    -4
    Quote: Spade
    Why then sprawled? Oh yes, he is also from the circle of Turkish w..liz. Well done, you have to protect your own.

    you have nerves naughty, planing a gallop peridolok, dear) if you can argue what you say, argue, if you just want to fart in a puddle (which you do in general), then it's better to remain silent.)
  • V. Salama
    V. Salama 29 May 2013 13: 48 New
    +2
    Quote: OTAKE
    ... I will explain for the most impressionable, in everything presented below, the Turks, Azerbaijanis, Massons, ZOG, the CIA, Americans, and Europeans are to blame .. here ...

    The reception is pretty old. It seems to V. Pozner that the palm rests: "Well, it is not the Americans who are to blame for what we write in the porches." And there is nothing to object, we are not writing. They spent only 50 billion bucks on the "dibilization" of our people (I did not pull Bill Clinton by the tongue). And in general "it’s not the murderer's fault that the corpse has rotted - the worms have eaten." And what is the killer to blame? And this is no longer essential - another question. That is the essence of the reception.
  • V. Salama
    V. Salama 29 May 2013 15: 17 New
    0
    PS. By the way, "... Masson, ... Americans ..." is written with a capital letter. What's the point?
  • Dimkapvo
    Dimkapvo 27 May 2013 09: 58 New
    0
    you. Over
  • 3 inches.
    3 inches. 27 May 2013 10: 05 New
    +1
    judging by the direction of thought, it’s easiest for you to be a sheep. To think inappropriately, leaders will decide everything.
  • Sewer
    Sewer 27 May 2013 09: 43 New
    +2
    My opinion is this: It’s simply not for our authorities to give a damn about what they’re doing with the monuments of the Great Patriotic War Warriors! The authorities thereby show that she, along with the creatures defiling the monuments, that she likes what is happening! Otherwise, they would have passed the law for a long time for life, and that would be in labor until the end of his life! But the government does not do this! And for me, I would shoot such degradants on the spot, if these creatures came to this, then society will no longer have any sense in them they are not needed!
    1. 3 inches.
      3 inches. 27 May 2013 09: 44 New
      +1
      our authorities simply do not give a damn. about everything. well, except for our pockets
    2. Lighting
      Lighting 27 May 2013 09: 48 New
      -4
      Quote: Sewer
      : Our authorities simply do not give a damn about what they are doing with the monuments of Warriors of the Great Patriotic War!

      And rightly so. The occupation regime of the German spy-Lenin and mustachioed chocks has nothing to do with today's Russia. I’m wondering what the hell are the Redheads generally celebrating and honoring these occupiers.
      1. Grey74
        Grey74 27 May 2013 10: 05 New
        0
        ask your parents.
  • DPN
    DPN 27 May 2013 09: 51 New
    +1
    It’s simply called a CRIME, and since the authorities do not punish for it, this is another opportunity to be swept over the whole country. At present, a generation has grown up that has read books: Hitler, Gudarian, traitors-writers Rezun-Suvorov, the statements of Russian politicians who simply hate the Soviet regime: Svanidze, Pivovarov, a bunch of others that flash on the body of the screen. We are reaping the fruits of Gorbachev-Yeltsin freedom. Schools do not know what history of Russia to teach, the Soviet period cannot be, and without the USSR, Russia has no history from here and all the nasty things happen.
    1. Lighting
      Lighting 27 May 2013 09: 54 New
      -1
      Quote: DPN
      and without the USSR, Russia has no history from here and all the nasty things happen.

      70 years of shame have nothing to do with history.
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 27 May 2013 10: 04 New
        +4
        Quote: Lighting
        70 years of shame have nothing to do with history.

        From the little ones, or from fagots? Svetlenky.
      2. Grey74
        Grey74 27 May 2013 10: 07 New
        0
        Shame is an internal state, little dependent on external factors, for example, for these 70 years, I am not ashamed!
    2. Misantrop
      Misantrop 27 May 2013 10: 00 New
      +2
      Guderian "Tanks - Go!" I read at the school, she was in the reading room of the SVVMIU library, but he didn’t become a liberalist wink
      Quote: Lighting
      70 years of shame have nothing to do with history.

      Is the history of Soviet cosmonautics, the nuclear fleet, aviation, field surgery also a complete disgrace?
      1. Lighting
        Lighting 27 May 2013 10: 07 New
        0
        Quote: Misantrop
        nuclear fleet

        The fleet is a shame in itself, thanks to the efforts of Mr. Gorshkov and his ability to ruin good projects, riveting a serial of unparalleled crap.
        Quote: Misantrop
        aviation

        And then. The only decent aircraft (Su-27S) appeared only at the very end of the scoop. The rest is solid crap on crap, starting from the Second World War. It was necessary to drive Yakovlev to hell even then.
  • Plastic
    Plastic 27 May 2013 09: 51 New
    +1
    head by this ped *** m
    1. annenkov242
      annenkov242 27 May 2013 10: 07 New
      -1
      head by this ped *** m

      Well, then what will you do?
      1. Plastic
        Plastic 27 May 2013 12: 22 New
        +1
        treat these pi *** himself as categorically and if you see such a live action then beat the wolves!
  • pensioner
    pensioner 27 May 2013 09: 57 New
    +2
    I’m most likely wrong - I didn’t read the article ... But in my soul, after voicing such facts, 2 feelings are steadily forming: disgust and powerlessness ... Where is the STATE ??? Why has IT ever become possible ?? Well, society cannot (itself) cope with blasphemy .... Laws, by-laws ... The state where you are !! Help! And you, Comrade President, must every day report on HOW they punished the next Gozman who encroached on our VICTORY !!!
    1. 3 inches.
      3 inches. 27 May 2013 10: 02 New
      0
      worthless shouting to the Lord in my ears help me get to the toilet. yourself and once again yourself.
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop 27 May 2013 11: 05 New
        +3
        Quote: 3 inches.
        themselves and once again themselves.
        Yourself? Also say: “On an equal footing” Against this scum, supported and sponsored by powerful STATES, against methods carefully developed by the special services of these states. And at the same time against the laws of their own country (adopted under the pressure of the same curators)
        1. 3 inches.
          3 inches. 27 May 2013 11: 07 New
          +1
          Every tricky ass always has a bolt with a left-hand thread. I already wrote how to get around this. Surely there are lawyers among the members of the forum to think over this matter and settle the laws. I know that the laws we often contradict each other. What’s not a loophole?
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 27 May 2013 10: 00 New
    +2
    "The local population goes to the square for a walk, and there are quite crowded on weekends."
    And not a single one was found who would “reason” the idiots. Neither citizens nor policemen?
  • annenkov242
    annenkov242 27 May 2013 10: 03 New
    +1
    [/ Quote]
    70 years of shame have nothing to do with history. [/ Quote]

    And now you are our shame !!!!!! This power has given you everything, but you have nothing to her !!!!!!
    1. Grey74
      Grey74 27 May 2013 10: 10 New
      -1
      And about power, you are wrong! If something gave me something, it was Soviet, and the current one only interferes with work.
    2. Misantrop
      Misantrop 27 May 2013 11: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: annenkov242
      This power has given you everything, but you have nothing to her !!!!!!
      Well, why immediately "nothing"? He in response to this power spat
  • Sanyht
    Sanyht 27 May 2013 10: 13 New
    -18
    read komenty: and ... not a single word of the MAN OF THINKING ??? for starters in history: in 1967, after visiting Brezhnev in Paris, having fun and seen on the Champs Elysees, the French Eternal Flame (wick, in comparison with ours) -Leonid Ilyich ordered : ignite (in spite of the frogs) Eternal Lights throughout the USSR! who doesn’t remember: they were lit in all cities and towns, even at the Zaporizhzhya Refractory Plant (the plant’s economy cracked because of then very cheap gas ... the lights went out), and in the palidage villages changing gas cylinders, at that time, how collective farmers heated stoves with wood and only dreamed about gas! as the GREAT RUSSIAN SCIENTIST said 100 years ago: SIMPLY GURNING GAS - EVERYTHING IS THE same as burning APPARATUS (RUBLES, DOLLARS, YUAN)! My personal opinion is: to set fire to EXPENSIVE GAS, in memory of my victims Grandfathers and great-grandfathers, BURNING OXYGEN at the LIVING, and even through taxes making me pay it, increasing only the profits of Gazprom is a crime against our descendants ...
    1. 3 inches.
      3 inches. 27 May 2013 10: 18 New
      +3
      it’s not only money. Following this logic, let’s close all the museums. You don’t spend money on junk. You won’t even notice how you will start to run in the skins with oak.
      1. deZerTigR
        deZerTigR 27 May 2013 11: 47 New
        -6
        Quote: Sanyht
        visiting Brezhnev in Paris, fun and seen on the Champs Elysees - the French Eternal Flame


        I condemn the freaks who staged an action, but our commander’s head was clearly not in order when they made such a symbol as “eternal flame” according to Christian canons, “eternal flame” burns in hell ...
        1. 3 inches.
          3 inches. 27 May 2013 11: 53 New
          +3
          but according to Slavic fire this is purification .. it was cold in hell in us. and dark.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 May 2013 10: 19 New
      +8
      Quote: Sanyht
      read comments: and ... not a single word of the MAN OF THINKING?

      Oh, how hard it is for you, a “thinking person,” now we will sympathize with all the Saite.
    3. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 27 May 2013 10: 31 New
      +2
      Following your logic, it would be necessary to cancel the parades (a lot of money goes away)
    4. Misantrop
      Misantrop 27 May 2013 11: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: Sanyht
      JUST GURNING GAS - EVERYTHING IS SIMILAR TO FIRING ASSIGNATIONS (RUBLES, DOLLARS, YUAN)! My personal opinion: burning expensive GAS, in memory of my deceased Grandfathers and Great-grandfathers, BURNING OXYGEN from LIVING LIVES, forcing me through taxes increasing only Gazprom’s profits is a crime against our descendants ...
      Also count how many potatoes could be grown on the sites occupied by the monuments ... Just do not be surprised then if your descendants do not want to spend YOUR money on your funeral. After all, this is a complete ruin
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 27 May 2013 13: 38 New
        +1
        separate plus for this phrase
        Quote: Misantrop
        Only then do not be surprised if your descendants do not want to spend YOUR money on your funeral.

        After death, I will try not to be surprised :-)
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    5. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 27 May 2013 12: 08 New
      +3
      Well, if our grandfathers were as "reasonable" as you would measure life in rubles and dollars, I think you would not even reach the sperm stage.
    6. Manager
      Manager 27 May 2013 16: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Sanyht
      through taxes making me pay it


      Did you pay a lot? Even let's take it in 10 years. I will answer you .... Cents 10 maximum. Badly impoverished?
      What about oxygen? YOU spoil oxygen in your car per day more than eternal flame in 10 years! So do not write such nonsense. And CapsLock can be turned off by the way.
  • Skavron
    Skavron 27 May 2013 10: 16 New
    +9
    read it live
    how many freaks now divorced however
    It’s one thing, when in the Ukraine, Natsiks rage, they can be understood, they have nationalism of the brain, but in Russia ... gandons ... pah!
    The worst thing about this is that they find support in the same social networks, on forums and other and other ...
    We educate roofing felts not correctly, roofing felts are too much, roofing felts are not taught to use freedom ...
    1. Manager
      Manager 27 May 2013 16: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: Skavron
      Russia ... gandons ... pah!
      The worst thing about this is that they find support in the same social networks, on forums and other and other ...


      I sometimes read comments on Mail.ru and other homophoforums. Here I spit on the monitor. How much dirt is there. One dirt sucks the country, another dirt supports. On this site, I just relax talking with normal people who still have love for the motherland and, in general, the very understanding of the motherland.
      1. Skavron
        Skavron 27 May 2013 17: 54 New
        +5
        Do you see skulls on my uniform?
        This suggests that we have one homeland, but now the countries are different. And this suggests that many forum users do not want to see Ukraine as an independent state.
        But I do not care. Nevertheless, I love Russia, I love Russians and it really hurts me when such things begin to happen in Russia.
        I am ready to support the Russians in word, and if necessary, then in deed.
        If necessary, I still remember how to collect AK ...
        1. OTAKE
          OTAKE 27 May 2013 17: 56 New
          -1
          And this attitude is not in Russian and not in Jewish traditions.

          And here the traditions came to life :)
          But I do not care. Nevertheless, I love Russia, I love Russians and it really hurts me when such things begin to happen in Russia.
        2. 3 inches.
          3 inches. 27 May 2013 18: 09 New
          0
          dear calm down. no one is going to conquer your great and not fallow. but we need? just when you live with your neighbors then live in peace. but do not spoil them in slippers.
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          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 May 2013 18: 18 New
            +4
            Quote: 3 inches.
            just when you live with your neighbors, then live together. but do not spoil them in slippers.

            Hello dear!
            That is, if * neighbors shit * it is very bad for you, but if it’s different, then this is normal !?
            But didn’t you crap any of your neighbors ??
            1. 3 inches.
              3 inches. 27 May 2013 18: 23 New
              0
              tell me how Russia crap Ukraine. I listen.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 27 May 2013 18: 36 New
                +2
                Quote: 3 inches.
                tell me how Russia crap Ukraine. I listen.

                Why only Ukraine, other neighbors are not neighbors ??
                I think the citizens of Ukraine if they want to answer you !!
                Is selling gas to Ukraine at a price more expensive than Germany is normal?
                And what has Ukraine spoiled?
                1. 3 inches.
                  3 inches. 27 May 2013 18: 43 New
                  +2
                  yes a lot of things. only Ukraine didn’t crap us. and its government still crap. therefore gas at that price. what do you want? This is called a lever of pressure. Or is the situation around Sevatopol and the fleet a friendship with Russia?
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 27 May 2013 18: 52 New
                    +3
                    Quote: 3 inches.
                    yes a lot of things. only Ukraine didn’t crap us. and its government still crap. therefore gas at that price. what do you want? This is called a lever of pressure. Or is the situation around Sevatopol and the fleet a friendship with Russia?

                    And what is the situation around Sevastopol ??
                    You see, the last time we discussed our conflict with Armenia, you stubbornly said that on either side both sides are to blame !!
                    While our people were first expelled from Armenia, they began to claim our territory, they killed ours!
                    So they told us shit or not ??
                    And the situation with Sevastopol would have been improved long ago if your politicians had not constantly pulled the situation there!
                    in the worst case, I will also say you are both to blame !!
                    Although in the position of Ukraine I do not see hostility to Russia?
                    You just want submission, I’m talking about some users and politicians in Russia, and Ukraine wants mutually beneficial relations without dictatorship!
                    1. 3 inches.
                      3 inches. 27 May 2013 19: 02 New
                      +2
                      Alibek. I am very glad that you are a patriot of Ayzerbadzhana. But I’m a patriot of Russia. Including that Russia that has remained abroad. And by the way, I’m not taking the blame from our politicians. But where will you see parades of the United Nations and other trash in Russia? Where are you will you see a call to shake money from other former republics for alleged genocides of famine and other crap? you don’t see and I don’t see. an attempt to expel the fleet from the city that Russia built and which is located in a very controversial territory, by the way, related to Ukraine is very conditional. find me examples in Russia where would Ukrainians be banned from their native language?
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 27 May 2013 23: 25 New
                        +2
                        Yes, it’s not a matter of patriotism, dear!
                        I remember how we all burst with anger when the Central Television and the media at the beginning of our conflict covered events !!
                        For the first time in my life, I saw how the Soviet media lied !! Then I saw how we became not relatives from siblings!
                        My grandfather was a convinced communist and his father was also him, and I think he still is!
                        Soviet values ​​are close to me, but not this false patriotism !!
                        I understand those who want to see their country strong and even be Russian would be an imperialist, but I have a keen sense of justice!
                        I am against the fact that if the son of a bitch but ours, then he can be forgiven !!
                      2. 3 inches.
                        3 inches. 28 May 2013 01: 33 New
                        +1
                        Alibek is more attentive. Where is pseudo-patriotism, where are you? You asked me about Ukraine and I answered you. Any objections to the facts?
                      3. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 28 May 2013 20: 19 New
                        -1
                        Quote: 3 inches.
                        Alibek is more attentive. Where is pseudo-patriotism, where are you? You asked me about Ukraine and I answered you. Any objections to the facts?

                        I’m not talking about you personally, dear!
                2. Skavron
                  Skavron 27 May 2013 23: 00 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  and Ukraine wants a mutually beneficial relationship without dictatorship!

                  Here !!!
                  And there’s nothing to add! "+"
            2. OTAKE
              OTAKE 27 May 2013 18: 50 New
              +2
              Quote: Yarbay
              And what has Ukraine spoiled?

              The fact that, after the collapse of the union, three and a half morons were called Muscovites, m.o.s.kali, that’s why the whole 145 million Russia raised the hellish buhurt and began many years of shit drilling .. in general, this is brief)
              1. Genady1976
                Genady1976 27 May 2013 19: 07 New
                +1
                Yes, they always called Muscovites that way, and I confess I myself call them well
                Muscovites but only relatives who live in the capital of our country and
                More for the ICA. drinks good lol
            3. Skavron
              Skavron 27 May 2013 23: 00 New
              0
              Alibek, dear, I am ready to answer not only here, but also in real life.
              Just this site has lost its importance for me as a source of independent information. This is the first.
              And secondly, here, if you are not pleased, the number of comments will be limited, and this prevents normal communication.
              But even this is not the most important thing, but the main thing is that I do not like people living in Ukraine and shitting on it. Such filth, always cause a mountain of positive emotions and, accordingly, pluses on this site.
              And here it is not realistic to answer them adequately, as practice has shown ...
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 27 May 2013 23: 17 New
                +1
                Quote: Skavron
                And secondly, here, if you are not pleased, the number of comments will be limited, and this prevents normal communication.

                I talked about this several times with administrators that this is wrong, you can’t limit any user to the comments !! It’s better to just ban him and not let him go!
                and so to your knowledge admins nullify users if necessary ratings so they can write!
                Well, such are the rules!
                As for Ukraine and Russia, I am convinced that there is no big disagreement between the peoples!
                The trouble is that some people want to see everything unilaterally !! That's just for us and only as we want, then you are great, and if you want something for yourself, then you do not like Russia, and in general, you can do it! Russia can flirt with the West and with NATO, but let others not dare!
                None of the documents state NATO is even indicated as a potential enemy, and serious insults!
          3. Skavron
            Skavron 27 May 2013 23: 01 New
            -1
            Quote: 3 inches.
            as Russia crap Ukraine. I listen.

            ))))))))))
            about gas suitable?
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 27 May 2013 23: 08 New
              +3
              Quote: Skavron
              about gas suitable?

              Please clarify! Russia stole gas from Ukraine? Or took it? What are the gas claims?
              1. Genady1976
                Genady1976 28 May 2013 00: 08 New
                0
                wink You are not ashamed of why they stole gas as they are now winked
                Adults and those took gas
            2. 3 inches.
              3 inches. 28 May 2013 01: 35 New
              0
              Of course. I will read it with pleasure.
  • d1m1drol
    d1m1drol 27 May 2013 10: 17 New
    +3
    I'm from Tolyatti .. the truth is from the Avtozavodsky district. If these pid ... sons made an announcement .. if they had the intelligence to somehow warn the population ... then I think they would be fried on that fire. Do not believe it, but I first heard about it from the central media! Local media did not notice it seems like pid walks .. in Freedom Square. Blood quivers with a desire to tear these freaks. It's a shame that no one stopped them from passers-by.
  • Sanyht
    Sanyht 27 May 2013 10: 18 New
    0
    the real MEMORY of the Slavic PEOPLES is when YOU PLANT TREES ON THE DEPOSITS, GIVING OXYGEN IN OVERHEAD, IMPROVING THE LIVING ENVIRONMENT! even in hot weather creating SHADOWS OF LABOR PEOPLE!
  • vitas
    vitas 27 May 2013 10: 20 New
    -6
    The trick is certainly terrible, but the sad thing is that after 50-70 years they will forget about this war in the same way as they forgot, for example, the war of 1812 and similar things, and even worse they will continue to happen!
    1. 3 inches.
      3 inches. 27 May 2013 10: 24 New
      +3
      Vitas, but doesn’t it seem strange to you that you are already the second person in half an hour to remember the war of 1812? It’s not noticeable that you forgot it.
      1. vitas
        vitas 27 May 2013 10: 31 New
        0
        And who remembered? I went in and read an article and left my opinion.
        1. 3 inches.
          3 inches. 27 May 2013 10: 35 New
          0
          yes, another one just remembered you. I’m saying that running clutching my head screaming like everything is bad is not an option. it’s not all as bad as it seems.
          1. Genady1976
            Genady1976 27 May 2013 18: 24 New
            0
            at school that history stopped teaching tongue
  • DPN
    DPN 27 May 2013 10: 22 New
    +2
    It seems that the Americans have achieved their goal, They laid us out on the shelves of Russians, it remains to ruin the territory with the help of the Russian intelligentsia. The people still have no where to go, but the politicians must be cleaned up, they still have a backup option - WEST.
    1. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 27 May 2013 10: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: DPN
      They laid us out on the shelves of Russians, it remains to ruin the territory with the help of the Russian intelligentsia.

      Maybe someone wants to do it, but to achieve the goal he is still oh how far.
  • avant-garde
    avant-garde 27 May 2013 10: 31 New
    +2
    "Is it a common symbol and what a scary thing was it used to enhance the effect of another action?"
    ______________
    It would be better if all the deputies pulled condoms on their heads and came out, that would be an increase in the effect, although there most condoms do not have to be pulled completely, people already know that they are contraceptives !!
  • Forest
    Forest 27 May 2013 10: 31 New
    +2
    This "organization" to fight AIDS does not have this just a cover. It was created to promote the ideas of pi ... owls.
    And it’s VERY STRANGE why a criminal case has not yet been opened to desecrate the monument. Apparently this dirt has support in the power structures of Togliatti.
  • seller trucks
    seller trucks 27 May 2013 10: 33 New
    +3
    Once again, the bold + USSR and the Iron Curtain:

    Criminal liability for sodomy was introduced into the criminal law of the RSFSR (Criminal Code of the RSFSR of the 1926 of the year) on 7 of March of the 1934 of the year and was valid until the 3 of June of the 1993 of the year.
    The most famous was the 121-th article of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR 1960 of the year, which established the following:
    121 Article. Sodomy
    Sexual intercourse between man and man (sodomy)
    shall be punished by imprisonment for a term of up to five years.
    Sodomy committed with the use of physical violence, threats, or against a minor, or using the dependent position of the victim,
    is punishable by imprisonment for up to eight years.
    Prior to this, criminal liability for sodomy was established by Art. 154 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR 1926 of the year:
    154. Sexual intercourse between a man and a man (sodomy) - imprisonment for a term of three to five years.
    Sodomy committed with the use of violence or using the dependent position of the victim - imprisonment for a term of three to eight years

    Until 8 (eight) years, I understand that, adequate measures:

    According to Canadian historian Dan Healey, the total number of people responsible for this article reaches 250 000
    Dan Healy “How Many People Convicted for Sodomy in the USSR”
  • adg76
    adg76 27 May 2013 10: 39 New
    +2
    Urgently need to change the law and the criminal code. For crimes related to insulting the feelings of believers, desecration of military graves, memorials, destruction of tombstones and graves, the punishment should be one. Hard labor. Hard physical work day after day. No amnesties. For refusing to work in hard labor, increase the terms. And no prisons for such. They are worse than felons
  • honest jew
    honest jew 27 May 2013 10: 41 New
    +3
    Quote: aszzz888
    Punish them the Righteous God!


    Again it comes down to- "My hut from the edge I know nothing" ....
  • 3 inches.
    3 inches. 27 May 2013 10: 46 New
    +3
    after all, there’s still a good option. The faces of the performers are known. Well, at least they will be known. Togliatti is a small city. Why would Togliatti when meeting with these personalities not make fun of them. At the same time their parents could not explain to their children what is bad. A person can survive all. except ridicule and rejection of society.
  • Denis
    Denis 27 May 2013 10: 50 New
    +4
    sorry, these animals are not alone
    1. 3 inches.
      3 inches. 27 May 2013 10: 56 New
      +1
      that’s why I’m always against this action. Yes, and according to the status of the order, St. George’s colors should not be worn by unrelated and unrelated to the guards.